Tom, you're putting too strong of an emphasis on my joke that I fear looking stupid. I put it in just because it seemed to lighten the mood of my post a bit, and because it illustrates how easy these paths are to spot.

The RiRo can be done without the zipper before the jump with a blue boost, but if the consensus is that it cuts off to much track, it becomes a moot point. I can understand it when it's decided on the grounds that it cuts off too much track.

CL I still don't understand, since it would only cut over a straight with added speed in a straight line without skipping walls, etc. It a bit strange from a banning point of view that we can skip the wall but not use the means to go forward easier and faster doing so. (I know you cut out the corner otherwise needed to go around the plate, but it's honestly the exact same type of corner and situation as in MC2.)

Edit: You don't need to use even a blue boost here to reach the platform on the side. Just use enough of the boost strip prior to hitting the jump and you might even overcut it altogether. That wouldn't be allowed either, I suppose, since it's a similar cut, just not as far. (?)  

LP - I don't really mind this being ruled out, but there is a zipper there to help you get to the plate. If this is also based on cutting too much, I'll accept that too. (Even though the fastest Non-SC strategy for CCI cuts a good bit more off. Whether it's with the aid of a plate shouldn't matter, since it still favours shroom precision over driving, but I'm all for a skipping-over-open-water-is-OK consistency.) It's going to feel weird for me to aim for the zipper and veer left, but that's really all that will change.

Thanks for clearing things up.

Andreas

In hiding wrote on 03/14/06 at 03:19:52:


No worries, Tom. I know you didn't mean any offence.  

You meant Cheese Land, right?

Andreas

IMO any rule set is good, when it is clear and it does not confuse people.

ya like riverside.

Termo, could you please post vids of the three courses and the areas of discussion, then i'll do a poll.

Thanks in advance

In hiding wrote on 03/15/06 at 01:04:41:


I'm sorry, i dont known very well the tracks you are discussing  
Maybe someone can use the circuit maps in order to show the allowed paths:
http://www.vgmaps.com/Atlas/GBA/index.htm#MarioKartSuperCircuit

(for example allowed paths can be drawn by green lines and the forbidden one by red lines)

BTW I suggest some basic statements, beside the rules for each single circuit:

-No Lakitu help is allowed: if you drop somewhere, you have to replay your race.
-No lap skip is allowed: you have to run all the circuit without mayor cuts.
-No Tree/Wall/Other ticking is allowed.

more thoughts:
-How about SSMT?
It seems that no one now is able to do it, but if so?
-Which hardware is allowed?
IMO GBA, GBASP, GBAMICRO, NDS and GBA player (on GC) have to be allowed (i have a Gba player but i play better on original SP)
Forbid unofficial emulators (the only one official for now is the GBA player).

As above, all formats

DS/DSlite/GBA/GBASP/Micro/GBA Player will all be allowed

Emulators will not.

SSMT'ing - if it can be down it will be allowed in the same way that long boosting is being allowed as per smk.

Tom, if you still need to learn how to do the updating im around.... or if you want i could do an initial update until you get time to learn the system

im off tomorrow and sunday... also i work til midnight tonight (4am your time i believe) so if your up at about 8am then thats probably when im going to bed.. so if its not before then maybe saturday night your time?

well i submitted some of my times and accidently posted Ribbon Road as RR and not RIR so that will show you one with an error even though it won't show up as an error...

but its actually an easy process... shouldn't give you any problems.... and i actually left work today cause i was too pissed to work so i'll be around tonight... unless your drinking tonight... might be better to try it before you go out

i had a drive around.. it looked ok to use it here. what rule would it go against?

Tonight could be a good night!