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Long Boost in TT other than MC2
09/11/05 at 15:30:40
 
Hey

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Anyway this is mainly directed at the gp150cc guys but if anyone else knows about this then do tell Smiley

I was playing some mc2 earlier just practicing long boost, then i remembered, seb i think it was who told me, about long boost in gp mode on any course pretty much. So i thought id try some LB in time trail mode on some other courses other than MC2.
I tryed mc1 and found to my surprise that the trick of long boosting works on any wall, pipe, block etc in TT mode.
I got it to work taking off bits of corners here and there, but the thing is its not as fast as LB'ing on MC2 or with a mushroom in gp mode.
Im guessing this is because you dont have mushrooms in TT.
Has anyone else ever tryed this to any avail?
Id say people havent because of NBT's now but it would be nice to know if anyone has tryed it Smiley
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Re: Long Boost in TT other than MC2
Reply #1 - 09/11/05 at 16:05:42
 
The boost you get doesn't last as long because you don't hit an arrow. I know the Pipe Boost technique, I tried it on MC1, didn't get any interesting results and I'm pretty sure I couldn't, even if I'd mastered the technique. I just don't think it can be faster than a normal tight corner. The short span of sand / grass / whatever you can cut doesn't make it for the time you lose actually hitting the pipe or the wall.  Of course this is theorical, and it shall be try at every spot possible. But I'm not gonna do that.
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Reply #2 - 09/11/05 at 19:53:33
 
For my MC1 f-lap record, I do intentionnally hit the pipe on corner 2, because I'm not good enough to boost there. It's not a "long boost" or even a boost per say, but it does indeed work. However I don't think it can ever beat a normal boost. At least, not on corner 2 of MC1.

Martin, I think it's better than a regular tight corner because I've once gotten a lap of 11"78 with that technique (the rest of the lap being Non-NBT). That technique is considered NBT, and my real Non-NBT f-lap is 11"87 or something around that. Therefore, done almost perfectly, it can save around "10, if not more over a regular tight corner.
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Reply #3 - 09/11/05 at 23:22:11
 
Use a mushroom to hit the wall instead.
The French 150cc players have some videos of this  Smiley
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Reply #4 - 09/12/05 at 01:04:52
 
actually, no one ever mentioned pipe hitting as nbt.  i tried the first pipe out with the emulator and it seems like it can save .02 over a tight corner with a great hit.  i don't see how it can save .1 unless you don't take that first corner tightly.
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Reply #5 - 09/12/05 at 02:16:26
 
duffjr   wrote on 09/12/05 at 01:04:52:
actually, no one ever mentioned pipe hitting as nbt.


Simon did, when I told him I did that. Because it's a technique about cutting a part of the race (some sand) without slowing down. It was not clearly mentionned in the Non-NBT site rules, but it enters the description of one of the rules, which says, roughly, that a technique to pass on sand, gras,, etc, without slowing down is not considered Non-NBT.

As for the time it saves... I don't know about anyone else, but before I did NBT on MC1 (cutting on corners 1 and 4), I was using regular boosts after corner 1 (build from corner 5 of previous lap), and that's all. Sometimes when trying to cut too much on corners, I was hitting the pipe unintentionnally on corner 2, and learned about that strategy. My Non-NBT f-lap was around 11"87 with boost in the beginning of the lap and the rest, normal Non-NBT. By learning about the pipe-hitting that doesn't slow down, I tried it, and eventually improved my f-lap by around "10 to 11"78 (rest of lap Non-NBT). Explain that. Maybe the lap was just really great and I would have had a new f-lap even without the pipe hitting (I do remember the lap was great). But I doubt I would have beaten my f-lap by several hundredths. By the way, I never did pipe cutting yet.
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Re: Long Boost in TT other than MC2
Reply #6 - 09/12/05 at 03:09:25
 
It is said once at least that cutting through sand/grass/whatever after hitting a pipe is considered NBT.
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Reply #7 - 09/12/05 at 03:35:03
 
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I know the Pipe Boost technique


Are you guys effectively saying theres tree-tricking in SMK?

Anyone got a quick vid?
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Reply #8 - 09/12/05 at 03:36:58
 
well if you consider it an unintentional driving error, shouldn't it be allowed?  like the boost on ci2, because the turn before requires a wide turn, you are allowed to boost the mud.  similarly, you will often hit those pipes by accident and manage a good time.
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Reply #9 - 09/12/05 at 03:37:43
 
In hiding   wrote on 09/12/05 at 03:35:03:
Are you guys effectively saying theres tree-tricking in SMK?

Anyone got a quick vid?


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Reply #10 - 09/12/05 at 04:51:03
 
is that a full link? doesn't seem to wanna work - got anything which doesn't have codecs?
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Reply #11 - 09/12/05 at 08:41:05
 
we need the compression from divx.  any 3ivx decompressor should be able to handle it.
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Reply #12 - 09/12/05 at 10:05:45
 
hey nice vid , i will try that too Grin

i didnt realise that we could build the trick before hitting arrow until i saw it done by pierre at the french championship a few days ago (at BC1)

but i think he was inspired by you or polo...

there was this kind of trick on the POLO' s MR vids on emu with save states' links that you gave me yesterday but i dont remember if you show me vids with this trick befor that... ???
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Reply #13 - 09/12/05 at 10:11:40
 
there are only places to longboost at mc2, bc1, gv2, and gv3.  bc2, bc3, and mc3 are too hard though i've tried them with the emulator.
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Reply #14 - 12/21/05 at 07:03:53
 
duffjr wrote on 09/12/05 at 10:11:40:
there are only places to longboost at mc2, bc1, gv2, and gv3.  bc2, bc3, and mc3 are too hard though i've tried them with the emulator.


You're wrong duffjr... Roll Eyes Tongue
I've done my MC3 5-laps and flap WRs with longboosting work (1'16"83 and 12"34) Wink Cool
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Reply #15 - 12/21/05 at 08:10:55
 
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Reply #16 - 12/21/05 at 11:45:14
 
Minet351 wrote on 12/21/05 at 07:03:53:
duffjr wrote on 09/12/05 at 10:11:40:
there are only places to longboost at mc2, bc1, gv2, and gv3.  bc2, bc3, and mc3 are too hard though i've tried them with the emulator.


You're wrong duffjr... Roll Eyes Tongue
I've done my MC3 5-laps and flap WRs with longboosting work (1'16"83 and 12"34) Wink Cool


i've seen the pal video.  the longboost is faster in ntsc, so it's harder to navigate that part.  it's still impressive, but i want to see water shroomskips on donut plains!
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Reply #17 - 12/21/05 at 11:46:45
 
Huaba-Deluxe wrote on 12/21/05 at 08:10:55:
150 grand prix  sux!!! Totally


you like finesse over speed?
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Reply #19 - 12/21/05 at 16:42:32
 
Duffjr, send your times to the GP150 site!!! Wink
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Reply #20 - 12/23/05 at 05:04:12
 
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