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I played mksc in 2003-2004, and I have TT times.
I would like to know what is the bowser castle 2 flap wr. It' s my favorite course, my times are 1'00"03 and 18"01 (with long boost and toad, don' t succeed to drive with bowser Embarrassed). and it would be cool if there are vids too Smiley
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and other thing, I don' t understand how you do mini boosts in the grass (like peach circuit), if somebody can explain me Embarrassed
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Reply #1 - 08/29/05 at 04:35:52
 
raphael_segas   wrote on 08/29/05 at 03:35:37:
hello
I played mksc in 2003-2004, and I have TT times.
I would like to know what is the bowser castle 2 flap wr. It' s my favorite course, my times are 1'00"03 and 18"01 (with long boost and toad, don' t succeed to drive with bowser Embarrassed). and it would be cool if there are vids too Smiley
thanks men Wink


The WR for BC2 is
3lap: 0'56"93 (Toad) by Blasthornet
flap: 0'17"30 (Bowser) by Su

The chart for 3lap is
http://www.cmo.jp/users/noppe/ranking/BowserCastle2.htm

The chart for WR's (including flap) is:
http://sm35site.hp.infoseek.co.jp/mariokart/index.html

About the videos... i think i have at least one Bc2 3lap from Blasthornet/Hirano.
It's possible it's faster than the WR Tongue (some of his videos are only for demonstration).
I'll check this evening and i'll upload it on some filesharing site.

Japaneses dont provide videos for fast lap.

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and other thing, I don' t understand how you do mini boosts in the grass (like peach circuit), if somebody can explain me Embarrassed
thanks for your answers Cheesybye bye


It's all about timing.
Just turn enough drifting, then jump and land straight.
It' easy to say but you have to learn the timing (it requires some days for me).
The only thing i can say is that is useless to try for many hours: you have to sleep after training in order to learn the timing.
The first corner cut in PC is done by holding the R button before the start and turning a tenth or so.
I can do that 8 times out of 10.
The last turn grass cutting is easier after you learn the right timing: you have to turn in the previous corner just a bit less than what you have to do in order to get the usual MT, then after a while just turn to right, jump and land straight.

edit: and i've forgotten to welcome Raphael Segas! Wink

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Reply #2 - 08/29/05 at 04:51:30
 
thanks very much Smiley
and bowser is faster than toad? (toad is very easy to drive, it' s for that I chose him Grin)
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raphael_segas   wrote on 08/29/05 at 04:51:30:
thanks very much Smiley
and bowser is faster than toad? (toad is very easy to drive, it' s for that I chose him Grin)


Bowser has the top speed faster than Toad.
Toad is used by Blasthornet for all his WRs.
Bowser is used by all others players in almost any chart.
Note that, in some of the WR's, Toad is used to perform the SSMT that is the hardest tech in MKSC and as far i know, is done by using some alternative controller.

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Another thing, i've found Mt'ing with Toad harder than using Bowser. I dont use Toad usually, but i never got the first turn grass cut in PC with Toad when i played it for flap...

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Reply #4 - 08/29/05 at 06:44:05
 
Blasthornet got no wrs.
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Reply #5 - 08/29/05 at 07:01:24
 
Yazzo   wrote on 08/29/05 at 06:44:05:
Blasthornet got no wrs.


who can guess...   Tongue

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Reply #6 - 08/29/05 at 08:01:01
 
okay thank you termopilucco Wink
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raphael_segas   wrote on 08/29/05 at 08:01:01:
okay thank you termopilucco Wink


You are welcome Smiley
You can find the BC2 3lap (only 58"16, sorry) by Blasthornet here:
http://rapidshare.de/files/4502410/BowserCastle2.zip.html

edit: i'm sure the WR has a different strat, the video has no mistakes.
You'll see the SSMT in action in the video: dont ask how to get it: maybe with skill, maybe cheating Roll Eyes

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Reply #8 - 08/29/05 at 10:06:53
 
I dont count runs done with cheats as "wrs". But if you want to do that, that's fine by me.
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Reply #9 - 08/29/05 at 11:49:24
 
Yazzo   wrote on 08/29/05 at 10:06:53:
I dont count runs done with cheats as "wrs". But if you want to do that, that's fine by me.


Oh no...  simply i'm not sure if he used some forbidden way to play (e.g. savestates or turbo pad).

Moreover talking with an italian community of arcade players, i've discovered that japaneses are used to hack the arcade controllers too!
Best shoot'em up players ask the machine owner for adding a couple of autofire buttons with variable fire speed and they adjust the speed in order to maximize the score.

Anyway, if we dont count his races, i have 3 Wrs (one tied) Roll Eyes

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Reply #10 - 08/29/05 at 13:18:16
 
termoPilucco   wrote on 08/29/05 at 09:06:37:
You are welcome Smiley
You can find the BC2 3lap (only 58"16, sorry) by Blasthornet here:
http://rapidshare.de/files/4502410/BowserCastle2.zip.html

edit: i'm sure the WR has a different strat, the video has no mistakes.
You'll see the SSMT in action in the video: dont ask how to get it: maybe with skill, maybe cheating Roll Eyes

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yeah those zig zag mini boosts are strange... I don' t do like him, at the shroom, I touch the wall earlier (easier) and I don' t take the same zipper after (the one at the right I take)
thank you for that vid, bye

edit: in that circuit best splits give me 59"7X
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Reply #12 - 08/30/05 at 10:48:15
 
I succeed to drive with bowser on peach circuit!
best splits without mini boosts on the grass: 15"16 + 14"97 + 14"97 = 45"10 Smiley
I don' t use the tree for shroom now Wink
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raphael_segas   wrote on 08/30/05 at 10:48:15:
I succeed to drive with bowser on peach circuit!

Shocked so early!
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best splits without mini boosts on the grass: 15"16 + 14"97 + 14"97 = 45"10 Smiley
I don' t use the tree for shroom now Wink


Yep, use the wall at the right instead: is faster and easier
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Reply #14 - 08/30/05 at 18:34:12
 
Just searched for my times from a couple of years back - I had 1'01"26 and 19"18 for BC2, according to the site (which was last updated in March '03, but I haven't played much if at all since then).

Your BC2 times are very impressive, I must say. And 45"1x on PC isn't too shabby either.
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Reply #15 - 08/31/05 at 03:07:54
 
thanks Smiley

now at peach circuit I have a 45"25: 15"30 + 15"00 + 14"95 (time with toad was 45"75) and best splits: 15"11 + 14"82 + 14"82 = 44"75 Shocked

mini boosts on the grass are too hard Sad no succeed for the moment

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raphael_segas   wrote on 08/31/05 at 03:07:54:
thanks Smiley

now at peach circuit I have a 45"25: 15"30 + 15"00 + 14"95 (time with toad was 45"75) and best splits: 15"11 + 14"82 + 14"82 = 44"75 Shocked

mini boosts on the grass are too hard Sad no succeed for the moment

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Excellent.
This can be useful for you:
The first corner cut (grass MT between wall and tree) saves from .05 to .15 in my experience and is initially hard to achieve.
Last turn grass MT is more important and easier.

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you have a small monitor don't you luca?
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Darth Pobre   wrote on 09/02/05 at 17:04:04:
you have a small monitor don't you luca?


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Reply #19 - 09/05/05 at 08:08:21
 
hey guys!
new records:
BC 2: 1'00"01 Angry  (impossible to do a 59" lol)and 17"90 Cheesy  (with toad)

Peach circuit: 45"08 (I don' t understand that mini boost in grass tech Sad)

I have many new records but small improvements (without on sherbet land: 1'12 to 1'06 and 22"3 to 19"51)

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Reply #20 - 09/05/05 at 10:26:08
 
Well done.
BC2 is an hard track... i think i can't even get 1"14  Tongue

I just played PC without offroad MTs (but using wall ticking), and i got 45"00 after some tries (very bad last lap).
My fastest 2nd lap was 14"86 and i think the best with this strat (at least for me) is over 14"75 (on 2nd/3rd lap).
A couple of times i was faster than my ghost until the last turn of the first lap, so dont mind about the first grass cut  Tongue
With offroad Mts my best 2nd lap is 14"51 so the difference is about .25/.35  per lap.


Edit:
I wanted to try more of PC non grass...  i got a lucky run very close to my splits: 44"66 (best splits 44"61!).
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Reply #21 - 09/12/05 at 08:08:36
 
oh awesome Shocked Shocked
thanks Smiley

Yesterday I finally got a 59"93 at BC 2! I' m so happy, a long time I wanted to be under 1 minut Cheesy

best splits are: 19"93 + 19"80 + 19"80 = 59"53!
but I can improve my time thanks to the shroom (I touch the wall too early), the max for me is about: 19"80 + 19"60 + 19"60 = 59"00.
I would like to know how to do the zig zag mini boosts :'(

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raphael_segas   wrote on 09/12/05 at 08:08:36:
oh awesome


oh no...

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Yesterday I finally got a 59"93 at BC 2! I' m so happy, a long time I wanted to be under 1 minut Cheesy


...That is awesome  Wink

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I would like to know how to do the zig zag mini boosts :'(


Dont care about  the zig zag mini boosts:
Su has 57"63 and he dont use them (and i'm sure that Su times are true).
Uhm... I just seen that Su used Bowser!
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Reply #23 - 09/12/05 at 10:02:43
 
thanks Smiley

omg 57"63 without zig zag mini boosts Shocked and with bowser Lips Sealed (impossible to drive with him in that circuit Grin)
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Reply #24 - 09/15/05 at 22:45:08
 
  Awesome times raphael! You have the french records in bc2, so you should post them in the french message board http://www.championnat-smk.org/forum/index.php?board=11.0
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