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05/22/05 at 05:03:16
 
Just got this game on rom because i don't have a GBA , it seems a good game but i need tips to get faster  Tongue
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Reply #1 - 05/22/05 at 07:51:03
 
Hey Paul,

Here's a link to Archi's MKSC site.
--> http://membres.lycos.fr/archimksc

You'll find some video's on there. They're pretty old, but they were some of the best at the time.
If I remember correctly they are even without the tree-boosting technique.

Here's another link. This one is to the japanese site where tree-boosting originated from.
--> http://www2.loops.jp/%7Eneka/index.html

I have more lying around here somewhere. If you need help on a particular track... just let me know.
I would suggest not to pursue the tree-bossting technique, but that is just my opinion  Wink

Anywayz, good luck !!!  Grin

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Reply #2 - 05/22/05 at 08:23:53
 
Thanks Peter ,

The only track i've played sofar is Peach Circuit and i have 53'75 / 16'22  Smiley

edit: im just shrooming anywhere at the minute  Wink

edit 2: 15'73 is my best lap now just made it after i wrote this post.
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Reply #3 - 05/22/05 at 08:39:16
 
http://videos18.free.fr/pclap.wmv

Here is a video of what i do maybe you can help me from that  Smiley Its proberly all wrong but  Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - 05/22/05 at 13:09:52
 
Paul Tanney   wrote on 05/22/05 at 08:39:16:
http://videos18.free.fr/pclap.wmv

Here is a video of what i do maybe you can help me from that  Smiley Its proberly all wrong but  Roll Eyes


It's all about the techniques you choose to use:
Peach Circuit with Toad without any techs:
http://www.unbelsito.com/pc.wmv  
It was a two day challenge,  and the strat is wrong (by rules): the best shroomspot is where you use the second one, but stay very close to left wall.

Bowser is faster in Peach Circuit 3 lap:
http://www.unbelsito.com/peachCircuit2ndlapNON_NBT.avi

It's my best second lap without new tecs (aka NON NBT)

Using some new boost techs, but without ticking against the tree:
http://www.unbelsito.com/peachCircuitNT.avi

It's a bit harder, because you have to learn some timing.

With tree ticking:
go to Neka site as Luprano said, Nasmic run (43"46) is perfect and it has been WR for two years.

About the fast lap, Toad is better if you tick against tree and walls.

If you have problem with my codec try to donwload and install Videolan Player at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

Otherwise if you are still interested, i can convert easily to WMV format.

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Reply #5 - 05/23/05 at 10:08:57
 
I put another vid online for you. It's the original japanese WR without the tree-trick. (47'40)
http://users.pandora.be/Luprano/01.PeachCircuit4740.mpeg

I suggest you just watch and learn  Tongue

Can't be of much help otherwise since it has been ages that I played MKSC!
Perhaps if the site were to relaunch... who knows!?  Roll Eyes
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Reply #6 - 05/23/05 at 11:51:09
 
Luprano   wrote on 05/23/05 at 10:08:57:
I put another vid online for you. It's the original japanese WR without the tree-trick. (47'40)
http://users.pandora.be/Luprano/01.PeachCircuit4740.mpeg

Uh.. it's an awesome video and i've never seen around the web!
For the first time i see that way of jumping the "s" turn in Peach Circuit.
Very clean run too... my best splits with the same strat sums to 47,85...


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Reply #7 - 05/23/05 at 13:55:47
 
I got that one from Neka's site as well. I initially discovered that site might I add  Grin

Every time a record was beaten, the video was replaced with a better one. Way back then in february 2002, the tree-trick was yet to be discovered... Luckily I was there before that happened  Smiley

I have Peach Circuit movies in the following order:
47'40 (also have this in HQ: 18.2MB)
45'33
44'55
43'75
43'65
43'46 (HQ 5.1 MB)

Just let me know if you're interested in the HQ movies!
I have many more Wink  (all tracks, with and without tree-trick)

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Reply #8 - 05/23/05 at 14:44:29
 
Very nice!
I played MKSC since i bought my GBA SP, so the tree tick was yet discovered at the time.
I'm interested in my fav. course: Mario Circuit 1 extra tracks, but i know it's difficult find some video on, because the leak of saved ghost.

About PC WR, now is 43"20 by Ayabusa (the Hirano 42"9X video was only a demonstration, his PR now is 43"3X).
I asked Ayabusa for a video and i hope he can read my "babelfished" japanese.
If the strat is the same, saving 0"26 from Nasmic perfection is  
a god task.
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Reply #9 - 05/24/05 at 03:10:39
 
Manage to finish the first 4 tracks , some just a couple of tries.

Peach Circuit = 53.75 / 15.73
Shy Guy Beach  = 1.01.51 / 18.62
Riverside Park = 1.21.93 / 25.53
Bowsers Castle 1 = 51.70 / 15.95

They will improve Roll Eyes
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Reply #10 - 06/02/05 at 01:56:35
 
Oh man. Those were the days.

I started playing well before the tree trick originated, but back then I was no good. Once that came out, though, I started to work my way up the charts. Mind you, I had two of the best mentors in zkenny and Luprano. Happy Ironically, only one of my 4 WRs used tree tricking (and it wasn't off a tree!)

These days I don't have my copy of MKSC any more, otherwise I'd be compelled to compete with the up and coming players like termoPilluco and KartSeven.

To the more experienced players here: Can someone PLEASE beat my Donut Plains 1 SC F-lap world record? I've been trying to get people to beat this record for years (I think I've had it almost three years now!)
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Reply #11 - 06/02/05 at 02:40:08
 
mike89   wrote on 06/02/05 at 01:56:35:
Can someone PLEASE beat my Donut Plains 1 SC F-lap world record? I've been trying to get people to beat this record for years (I think I've had it almost three years now!)

I can try it... but i need a strat Roll Eyes
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Reply #12 - 06/02/05 at 06:19:58
 
mike89   wrote on 06/02/05 at 01:56:35:
I had two of the best mentors in zkenny and Luprano. Happy


Hey, nice to see you again Michael! And thanks for the high praise  Wink

It's just crazy what they are doing nowadays in this game... It just seems to me that it's all about maximising glitch-usage instead of actual karting!  :'(
If I ever were to pick this game back up again, it would be to compete in something similar to the NON-NBT SMK site. (ie. without tree-tricks/glitches) like THAT is ever going to happen !!  Wink

Anyway, it was nice seeing you again! Interested in any of the oter MK's? Perhaps MKDS?

@termo: while you're at it, try and see if you can beat my Mario Circuit 4 f-lap world record! (13''67) on the other hand... I do enjoy the fact that I still have a WR after all these years  Grin so you shouldn't try too hard  Tongue
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Reply #13 - 06/02/05 at 08:12:27
 
i have the record in smk.  it seems when i try to hit it while in a reverse spin toward the finish, it doesn't register.  it only likes to work if i hit the wall in one spot.
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Reply #14 - 06/02/05 at 12:32:50
 
You can use that technique in MK:SC as well. (If this works on DP1 like it does in SMK, Mike's DP1 SC F-lap record could be beaten without knowing any actual strategy.

Luprano's time is - as you may very well have guessed - Non-SC.

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Reply #15 - 06/02/05 at 12:48:10
 
A Runnelid   wrote on 06/02/05 at 12:32:50:
Luprano's time is - as you may very well have guessed - Non-SC.


Is there a SC MC4 time perhaps?  Grin
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Reply #16 - 06/02/05 at 12:51:14
 
I've seen a Japanese video clip demonstrating how the SC lap is done. It's like in SMK. I can't remember the time, but I know that it was faster than 13" 67.  Tongue Wink

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Reply #17 - 06/02/05 at 13:06:01
 
I must have missed that...
I wonder why my time is still registered then at the GameFAQs board  ???

Any possibility that you still have that clip lying around somewhere, or that you can provide a link? Thx

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Reply #18 - 06/02/05 at 13:09:15
 
I don't think I have it anymore, sorry. I deleted it after I confirmed that it was the same approach as in SMK.
I can't even remember exactly where I found it. I think it was on Hirano's old site.

Edit: it, it, it, it...

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Reply #19 - 06/02/05 at 13:15:12
 
Luprano   wrote on 06/02/05 at 12:48:10:
Is there a SC MC4 time perhaps?  Grin


Both records by Hirano:
MC4 SC 5lap: 10.38 (Toad)
He hit the blue section of the left side wall, jumping to perform the lap skip.

MC4 NSC 5lap: 1'14"78 (Toad)
He shroom between two laps (like in MC1).
His best lap (with two half shroom then) is 14"05

I dont know if these runs are two of his demonstrations (like Peach Circuit 42"9x) or are real PR.
Seeing his "low" consistency, are real.

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Reply #20 - 06/02/05 at 13:32:55
 
termoPilucco   wrote on 06/02/05 at 13:15:12:
MC4 NSC 5lap: 1'14"78 (Toad)

All the more reasen that I am amazed that my time hasn't been beaten yet  Shocked
just take a look at my 5-lap time  Grin   http://users.pandora.be/Luprano/MK:SC/35.mario_circuit4(WR!!).jpg

I can't remember, but seeing the time difference, I guess I only used the tree-trick for the f-lap...
And I know the Japanese never really go for f-lap, so I guess my time could easily be beaten now

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Reply #21 - 06/02/05 at 19:25:09
 
there seems to be a larger area for you to hit in mksc.  in smk, it seems to only work in one spot.  you can see my strat here:  http://membres.lycos.fr/duffjr/dp1trick5lap.avi

i honestly can't get it to work by spinning out in reverse.
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Reply #22 - 07/25/05 at 02:53:32
 
termoPilucco   wrote on 06/02/05 at 02:40:08:
I can try it... but i need a strat Roll Eyes


There's nothing to it in terms of strats.

On lap 1, set yourself up in the grass on the right hand side of the track, and give yourself a bit of a run up.

Take this run up, and use the mushroom (this is to ensure you're at full speed when you cross the start line). You must, at some stage (I never really got the timing down, I basically aimed blind), start a powerslide to the right, such that you hit the smaller pool of water and fly over the wall.

Mushroom 2: Used just after landing from this jump - I can't remember whether you hit water on the other side or not. And I don't think it's quicker to turn around and simply jump back the other way, maybe that could be tested though.

Mushroom 3: Take a powerslide right, into the last corner, and use your last mushroom right alongside the wall. After using this mushroom, align yourself with the wall (rather than going back onto the track), and release A - this way you won't lose speed as rapidly.

I used Luigi, but if you guys can pull off the strat as Peach or Toad to better effect, that would work too. The one area where I differ from just about every elite MKSC player is that I was never any good as Toad, I used Luigi for levels like this.

And another thing:

Luprano: It's just crazy what they are doing nowadays in this game... It just seems to me that it's all about maximising glitch-usage instead of actual karting!

Sad state of affairs it is. It's become very much like F-Zero GX. Sad
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Reply #23 - 07/25/05 at 04:45:26
 
mike89   wrote on 07/25/05 at 02:53:32:
On lap 1 [...]


Oh thanks for sharing,  i like Luigi because he can do the sharpest turn in the game.
About your strat, i'll try out one day, but even if i were able do it, i prefer to break a japanese record, because they are monopolizing the chart Wink

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