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03/25/05 at 15:36:29
 
   If we want to be a real mk communitity, with combined rankings, we just can't leave a game without a ranking page... Someone have to reupdate it, and if nobody else wants to do it, I think I could update the rankings myself (about once every two weeks).
  But before I think we should understand why the older site failed, and try to imrove it, one of the main issue is tree-tricking. This is an unnatural way of driving, that can be fun on some of the easy tracks, but which is just boring and hard on some tracks (or flaps) where you have to do it 3/4 times a lap, in weird places... Also if we want to have our ranking on the combined ranking site, we must have the same policy that the others site, which is to ban every glitch of the main rank: so I think we should make tree-tricking count as SC, and make the "real" charts non tree-tricking (the issue of splitting the older time in two charts is not that big: there are not a lot of people concerned).
    Also, I think it must be made clear that extra tracks are just bonus tracks, and therefore should not be used for the main ranking: 40 tracks is way too much (keep in mind that extra tracks are not adapted for that game: if someone wants to play them, he'd better play smk...).
   Please tell me if you're interested, and add comment or suggestions...
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Reply #1 - 03/25/05 at 15:40:48
 
yes the tree shrooming trick is why many people dont join including me it should be much more fun whitout it!
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Reply #2 - 03/26/05 at 08:42:51
 
actually, i think the game didn't appeal to enough people, and most tracks were setup with too many shortcuts.

the list should either have separate rankings for long boosting or have combined rankings for wall boosting and normal shrooming.
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Reply #3 - 03/26/05 at 17:12:19
 
I'd be certainly interested in helping & joining any new system.  I play mksc randomly a few hours a week when i'm travelling & it's good fun & great time-trialing like any other mariokart game.  I admit that the tree-shrooming stuff is totally beyond me but i feel the same way: that it would be alot easier to just have simple racing with shrooms.  There's loads of sc's in the game so i think they should just count anyway but thats my opinion.  What is long boosting anyway? I know there's a fair few people who play the game & it would be great to sort out something Smiley  I myself am terrible at the game compared to you guys but with standards & a competitive chart like the other games i believe many people would join.  Obviously the charts would never be as big as mk64/dd but does that really matter? Any updated charts would do me Tongue .....& i don't mind being last either Grin
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Reply #4 - 03/26/05 at 23:46:41
 
Sure, disallow Treeshrooming, but what  about those few people like me who's whole top 5 is filled with TreeShrooming/Wall Ticking sometimes?
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Reply #5 - 03/27/05 at 01:24:59
 
Actually we know these "unusual" techniques:

A) Tree/Wall ticking
B) Grass/sand/off road boost (E.g. the first corner cutting in PC)
C) SSMT Tongue (at least Hirano knows it)
D) Lap Glitch (0.03 or so times)
E) Short Cut (Like in RR)
F) Lakitu Short Cut

Two reasonable categories are:
[NON NBT] only E) is allowed
[NBT] A) B) C) E) are allowed

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Reply #6 - 03/27/05 at 05:40:55
 
yes, i'm fond of the shortcuts, but i don't think the lap glitches should count for shortcut racing.  they should be an optional separate category like what is done on the smk site.

it won't be too difficult to separate the legal from the illegal shortcuts with a descriptive list.

however, wallboosting is not so difficult once it is learned and can be compared to normal boosting;  you simply have to find your angle to and distance from the wall rather than the dirt.

because we don't have enough players, we shouldn't further divide the categories.  

1)normal racing "normal boosts and shrooms"

2)wall boosting which includes 1)

3)shortcut racing which includes 1) and 2)

4)lakitu lap glitches...not included

5)no boosts or shrooms...not included

6)racing using a gameboy player on the television...players can do SSMTs and play longer areas with better vision.  i wouldn't be surprised if most strong players bought this though.
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Reply #7 - 03/27/05 at 13:03:43
 
     I've checked different boards and I have to change my point of view... Nearly every mksc player use tree-tricking right now, and also, in the smk site, they allow a trick for getting a long boost in mc2, which is similar to tree-tricking... So if I reupdate the ranks, I think I won't change the ranking system at all, let's hope that the combined rankings and a few motivated players will be sufficient to make the site popular.
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Reply #8 - 03/27/05 at 13:13:50
 
Well yeh your right Roll Eyes  But i'd like to have a rankings without any of these shroom glitches, maybe it's just me though! Will you use all the data from the old page because there's about 50 sets of times there?
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Reply #9 - 03/27/05 at 13:18:02
 
    Yes, I'll use the old database. For any non tree-tricking ranks, I don't know, maybe I'll do some if the site become popular but it is unlikely...
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Reply #10 - 03/27/05 at 15:24:34
 
you can have two separate lists and a combined ranking.  i don't think this will hurt.
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Reply #11 - 05/22/05 at 07:16:53
 
Vorsch   wrote on 03/27/05 at 13:18:02:
    Yes, I'll use the old database. For any non tree-tricking ranks, I don't know, maybe I'll do some if the site become popular but it is unlikely...

what's up now? will the site be active again?
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Reply #12 - 05/24/05 at 03:38:35
 
Well I've lost my motivation since there aren't many people playing the game right now...
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