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Question: Do you want to keep the non-nbt site being updated?

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Re: Suggestions for the Non-NBT site
Reply #1425 - 04/14/14 at 23:46:38
 
I thought you were sending this to Pierre actually. But thanks for the read, I'll have a look at it within a couple hours, and answer your mail (and send again the one who got lost too).
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Reply #1426 - 04/15/14 at 03:41:05
 
Yeah, Nicholas you're probably better off sending these to Pierre and/or Guillaume now. Keep up the good work lads!  Cool
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Re: Suggestions for the Non-NBT site
Reply #1427 - 04/18/14 at 13:06:47
 
The charts are updated, but where's our news?  Roll Eyes
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Re: Suggestions for the Non-NBT site
Reply #1428 - 04/18/14 at 17:34:22
 
News will be updated Sunday. Wink
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Re: Suggestions for the Non-NBT site
Reply #1429 - 05/18/14 at 12:12:43
 
Couple things about the NTSC WR page:

Ha Nyan's VL2 5lap vid (with splits) can be found here. I faintly remember him giving us his channel link a while ago, but if you don't remember the name it's near impossible to figure out. You can also find the link to his RR opener WR on his channel, so now we can add those two links + the splits to the WR page. VL2 5lap will probably be improved again in the near future but at least we'll have the vid for now.

Simon's MC3 opener WR can be found here. His channel is also suprisingly elusive.

While we have 3 missing links, we also have 2 dead links. The links to Chris Balch's CI1 and DP3 flaps both lead nowhere, at least for me.

All the other links are good, but I can't be sure that there aren't any other vids floating around in the depths of the interwebs. I've been here for a relatively short time so there's probably stuff I wouldn't remember.
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Reply #1430 - 05/21/14 at 08:15:16
 
New post to discuss a new issue. You know the bumper at the end of MC2? Every once in a while, you'll accidentally hit the wall right after leaving the bumper. It typically throws your kart off to the left and gives you a brief longboost effect. The problem with considering it non-NBT is that even the best twist finishes don't take you all the way to the line, meaning that you'll lose a bit of speed before crossing the line. The LB effect from the wallhit finish means that you don't lose time here, so essentially you are saving time because of a boost. Sure the time saved is minimal and the whole scenario is slower than a normal twist, but it goes against the non-NBT principles.

I noticed this on Guilherme's 14.53 flap. Even though I'm fine with it being on the site, I just want to make sure everyone else has the same stance on it. I have a much cleaner example recorded from a few years ago that I could post if anyone wants me to btw.

Also, I found Simon's GV1 opener WR tie. Yeah it's a 4-way tie and we already have a vid but it can't hurt to add one.
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Re: Suggestions for the Non-NBT site
Reply #1431 - 05/21/14 at 12:59:49
 
Thanks for NTSC WRs page, I'll fix that for next update. Smiley

About MC2, I did a few tests with the speedometer and I'm pretty sure it's not possible to get a faster time with the LB, as you lose time by hitting the wall and the finish line is too close to come back in time.

Of course, you can be attempted by starting next lap with this LB, but in this case it's obviously forbidden, and even more because the LB will only last if you release B, and you're supposed to not release gas to extend the length of the boost (CI2 style).

I think I'll add something in the non-NBT rules (part 1.5) about that.
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Re: Suggestions for the Non-NBT site
Reply #1432 - 06/05/14 at 15:08:19
 
2 last weeks will be updated Monday. Wink
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Reply #1433 - 06/05/14 at 16:04:11
 
Thanks for keeping us posted.

I'm looking forward to it!  Smiley
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Re: Suggestions for the Non-NBT site
Reply #1434 - 06/15/14 at 15:51:59
 
With Nicholas joining PAL, it's time to link the hidden combined ranking again... ^^
www.mariokart64.com/smknonnbt/combinedranking.htm

(one day I'll find 5 minutes to add this page on the site... ^^')
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Reply #1435 - 06/24/14 at 19:28:41
 
Pierre has updated the times from last week.

However...

#21 Andrew Koltz got 3 PRs and improved her score to 7,303 (+0,136), passing 1 player.

Ha, I didn't know Koltz was a girl all this time  Grin
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Reply #1436 - 06/25/14 at 00:37:42
 
^Well, I guess my secret's out. Feel free to call me by my real name Andrea from now on.

But that's only one of three minor issues. I submitted 10 PRs instead of 3, and all 10 are updated on the charts. My players' list rank is also updated, but for some reason my profile never got updated and still shows all my old times. The other two active people's profiles were updated, so mine's the only one that needs to be fixed.

Sorry about knocking you down a rank, Nick...but I'm sure you'll gain it back and much more after your PAL adventure Cheesy
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Reply #1437 - 06/25/14 at 00:46:30
 
The times are also still more than a week behind. I seem to remember we used to have all times up to date within a day after Sami did. I guess Pierre is still trying to get caught up. So Andrew Andrea, if any of your newest times beat Stanley Jeram but not me (or you were already ahead of me), I can possibly tie him or get back ahead of him without doing anything  Cheesy
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Non-NBT: #25 Legend G; PAL- #36 King C, USA Champion
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Reply #1438 - 06/26/14 at 11:39:53
 
Ah, I always copy-paste an older update to have the main lines. And for Andrew, just after changing the score, I wrote the highlight to be sure I won't forget... but I forgot the beginning. Grin Now it's fixed.

But for your profile page I don't understand, because it was good since the beginning. Did you refresh the page ?

For the moment, updates are 1 week behind ; I just need to do 2 updates in the same week to come back as before. I hope it'll be this week ; if I can do last week's update Saturday, it'll be OK after.
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Reply #1439 - 06/26/14 at 12:00:52
 
^Well, I tried refreshing it several times throughout the day of the update but it never showed up. It's good now; it fixed itself either several hours ago or sometime yesterday, I can't remember. It's nice to see 5 of my 13 King times go down, that's for sure!

@Nick, It's not all that simple...because the ranks are based on your Total Score, I would have to do some serious number crunching to find out if my PR helps or hurts you. The data's all there, but because the formula is [(the WR/PR ratio of the PR) + (the average WR/PR ratio of the rank of the PR)] / 2 you'd would have to pluck dozens (hundreds?) of numbers. I may have gotten a 5 on the AP Calculus exam, but that doesn't mean I'm not lazy Smiley

The funny thing is that you've already got Jeram beat in both AF and SR score Grin

EDIT: 5lap and flap totals as well...
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Reply #1440 - 06/26/14 at 13:22:26
 
Stanley's WR at GV1 flap helps him a lot ; someone with 20 10th places and 20 30th places will have a better ranking than someone with 40 20th places.
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Reply #1441 - 07/11/14 at 18:56:18
 
I just sent in my 2nd Quarter 2014 news update to the address, "kartseven[at]yahoo[dot]fr". Although the very last day of the quarter has not been updated to the charts (can we go ahead and call June 30 the start of the 3rd Quarter, for updating purposes?)
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Reply #1442 - 07/12/14 at 01:23:11
 
Nick you should never write an email address like this on a public message board, because of spamming robots. You should write something like "kartseven[at]yahoo[dot]fr" for example.
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Aron Langerak wrote on 08/06/17 at 13:47:24:
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Reply #1443 - 07/12/14 at 11:02:32
 
^ Oops, I forgot about spambots.  Tongue
Most of my own e-mail is junk and I assume it comes from bots. How else do so many people get my e-mail address to send me all these stupid ads?
Another way you can write bot-proof e-mail addresses is by adding extra text, e.g. "kartsevenNOBOTS@yahoo.fr"
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Reply #1444 - 12/11/14 at 09:10:24
 
MY RR was a dual PR but it says I got 1 PR Tongue
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Reply #1445 - 01/07/15 at 14:03:33
 
Do we still need to write quarterly news updates for the Non-NBT site? After the second quarter of 2014, I wrote my update for NTSC, but Guillaume never wrote his for PAL. Nobody else ever said anything about it so neither one of us wrote for the third quarter, apparently nobody else really cares about these news updates anymore. There's been no supply because there hasn't been demand. (There's also the fact that I can no longer access my e-mail to send files from this computer)
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Reply #1446 - 01/07/15 at 14:56:58
 
I was hoping for a gold star. Grin
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Reply #1447 - 01/08/15 at 04:09:39
 
Harvey Kartel wrote on 01/07/15 at 14:03:33:
Do we still need to write quarterly news updates for the Non-NBT site? After the second quarter of 2014, I wrote my update for NTSC, but Guillaume never wrote his for PAL. Nobody else ever said anything about it so neither one of us wrote for the third quarter, apparently nobody else really cares about these news updates anymore. There's been no supply because there hasn't been demand. (There's also the fact that I can no longer access my e-mail to send files from this computer)

I'm highly to blame there and I have absolutely no real excuse for my lack of seriousness.

I have been facing awful things all throughout 2014 and don't really want to talk about them here, but I've kinda given up some of the responsabilities I had been given in many contexts, probably because I just didn't think about them, and when it was asked me "don't forget to do it" I never had time and/or opportunities to take one hour or two and do what I've been asked to do.

This said, it would not take that long for me to write three PAL non-NBT quarterly news, for example while being in a long train trip, and if people still trust in my capacity to do the work properly, I'd still like to write those news, and will even try to do it before the end of January for the three currently missing ones.

I'm so, so sorry. Undecided
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Aron Langerak wrote on 08/06/17 at 13:47:24:
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Reply #1448 - 01/08/15 at 12:42:45
 
In that case, I owe us NTSC news for the last two quarters.  Smiley
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SMK: NTSC- #47 Emperor B; PAL- #49 Emperor E
Non-NBT: #25 Legend G; PAL- #36 King C, USA Champion
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Reply #1449 - 01/13/15 at 06:18:59
 
Sorry for failing to reply to this message earlier. As a longtime former newswriter for the Non-NBT site I would be disappointed if that aspect of the Non-NBT site would be discontinued.
I always liked it as an opportunity for some colourful news writing (Simon started that tradition to some extent, I always felt him to be an excellent writer). Though Sami has been doing an excellent job with the Players' Site news ever since the first Gulf war, he sometimes lacks a bit of that creative spark to go out of the box a little (or in Clark's case, a lot*). Though I will immediately admit that Sami is more or less forced to adopt that approach, considering he has to do these weekly for a larger number of active players.

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, I hope you will pick up the glove again and start writing. I for one really enjoyed your first news update from early 2014 and it clearly showed that you can seemlessly follow into the footsteps of Simon & me in terms of style. Godspeed!

*it's really worth it to revisit some of the guest updates that Clark has written many years ago, some comedy gold in there.  Smiley
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