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Re: Mario 64
Reply #1475 - 02/07/15 at 09:06:35
 
Hey Myles, it's good that you came out and admitted this although it's obviously unfortunate.

I would be inclined to believe what you say about not having cheated in any other games, and your MK64 videos certainly seem legit. To be absolutely sure, I think you should demonstrate your skills in person to someone. I know you can't go to a meet, but maybe someone can come to you. If I go to the VA meet this summer, I would be willing to meet up with you in WVA, it would be cool to have a fun time karting with you anyway  Smiley
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Reply #1476 - 02/07/15 at 10:02:42
 
Hi Myles, I appreciate you being honest with this altho a lot of respect has been lost.

Here's the thing I just do not understand. Just because others cheated, why does that make you think it's ok for you to do the same thing? I'll he totally honest here, if you cheated in something such as college, I can understand why you would do that. I wouldn't agree, but I'd be able to understand. But this here is a video game and your status was already considered as legendary.

As it stands, MK64 and MKW are the 2 main games I've played. We both know how MK64 has had its fair share of cheaters over the time, but MKW has probably even had more. A while back Cole figured out how to read button inputs of ghosts and he busted a lot of trusted players, including the top 2 on the website. That doesn't mean I or anyone else should cheat too just because others have.

I would like to see you meet up with someone from the MK community and prove your skills, even though I don't doubt them, it would be nice just to put that behind you and as long as you are known to have cheated in the past I think there will always be some doubt about your MK skills, so it would be best to probably put that to rest here.
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Reply #1477 - 02/07/15 at 10:26:38
 
I decided to just watch this topic. It's a shame that it was spliced. It's good that you're admitting this to the community instead of  making us make our own conclusions. It's right that everyone should know the truth and it's good that you're admitting this. My opinion doesn't really matter, but I also believe you that this is your only fake. It will be challenging for you to gain respect back after this, but I'm still a fan and I'm sure a lot of others are too. I wish you luck on getting back on track here Myles.
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Reply #1478 - 02/07/15 at 11:19:45
 
i'll be honest i also lost some respect as well. you have some pretty good untied wrs and i cant help but question them. I dont think you cheated in mk64 but i still think about it now. Your personal life had nothing to do with this. Who cares if you dont drink? That has nothing to do with anything. i just find it strange cause before you cheated you had some amazing records both in mario kart and other games. A lot of your usa records still stand. idk its good you were honest i guess but not until you were found out.
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Reply #1479 - 02/07/15 at 11:24:28
 
Hello Myles. First I'd like to say thank you for coming clean in relation to these allegations. You made it a much cleaner process, and as a result, kept your some of your reputation intact.

As far as your MK64 times, I don't doubt that they're legit. However, I feel like I can speak for the community when I say some type of verification is now needed. In order for us to be 100% sure, a meet up, as Dan and Brett have said, would be desired. However, there are other methods that would possibly give us reasonable assurance, such as an unedited video with you in frame.

I don't doubt your skill Myles, I feel that you're a very talented karter. But we need to make sure in cases like these, in order to maintain our status as a legitimate site. Thanks again for this post, really brings us some clarity.
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Reply #1480 - 02/07/15 at 12:30:05
 
Myles, kudos to you for how you handled this; I'm sad to see that the run was indeed spliced, but I see you're sincere in your apology. You still have my respect, for whatever that's worth, as I don't know you very well. Best of luck with re-building your reputation among the MK64 and MK64 communities. Smiley
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Reply #1481 - 02/07/15 at 12:43:50
 
Thanks for the responses.

I'm just going to be to the point with everything for the rest of this discussion.

I am leaning towards not ever playing a video game competitively again and having all records removed (mario kart 64 included). I think it's best. Certainly, not a good way to end, but so be it at this point.

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Reply #1482 - 02/07/15 at 13:23:46
 
Asking to have all your records removed implies that you cheated them all. I think you should go to the meet, and then retire (no removing records) from video games.
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Reply #1483 - 02/07/15 at 13:57:49
 
I don't know why you would choose this route instead of just proving yourself live in person, but I'm not going to sit here and beg you to stay so whatever.

I don't know who I can trust anymore.
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Reply #1484 - 02/07/15 at 14:32:27
 
Myles, I don't think anyone here wants to see you removed if we can have solid answers about your MK64 ability. Saying that you wish to be removed from the site seems like you are admitting that there is more that we don't know and that you are hiding something.

You have meant a lot to the site and have done a lot of great things for the community. Why would you go out like this? It seems like you are running from this and I feel like it's the wrong thing to do.  We would all like to see you prove yourself in person and I think that would make us feel a lot better.
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Reply #1485 - 02/07/15 at 15:47:55
 
Maybe he hasn't played MK64 in a while... he may be rusty, and not getting close to old records may put an even worse light on him. I respect Myles and I love watching his videos. It would make me really sad if you leave, the "mylestyle" would lose it's meaning to new players if you weren't present anymore. Please Myles, meet with someone, practice MK64 a bit and try to get close to your old level and show them what you can do! I believe in you Smiley
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Reply #1486 - 02/07/15 at 15:50:45
 
IS there any other options besides him meeting up with someone? Maybe a live stream? Myles nobody wants to see you leave.
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Reply #1487 - 02/07/15 at 15:58:36
 
I mean if I met up with Myles in July, that would be plenty of time to de-rust if he was rusty. Seeing someone live in person is the only surefire way to be sure of what they are doing.
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Reply #1488 - 02/07/15 at 16:05:52
 
I've been watching this thread and read all posts, I have respect for you Myles. You did great things in the past and it would be a shame to delete your historical achievements, of course I won't beg to make you stay here, but I kinda hope, one day, you'll find motivation again to kart competitive again and having fun which is even more important.

I would love to see you attend to the Euro meet though, I'll be honored to meet you in person Smiley

Btw, there will be a day that retiring can't be ignored, I mean, we can't live forever do we? (inb4 scientific shit makes it possible to live longer Roll Eyes)
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Reply #1489 - 02/07/15 at 16:39:32
 
Find it kinda nuts that people want to validate his ability in person when that's been proven to me more than well over half of everyone else on the rankings.  The Elite had a splicer who was clearly a top ten player but spliced to get himself all the way to fourth, got caught, continued to lie, so had to get the full ban treatment.  His ability was clear, and I feel pretty strongly the same in this instance.
 
Here all we have is a confirmed spliced SM64 video and that's it.  He's not a dick, he didn't come out and continue to pretend that wasn't true, (tho he didn't need to go into the full spiel of other stuff).  Claimed everything else was legit (we don't have any evidence to suggest the contrary to what he said at this time, especially given that nearly all of his other stuff wouldn't be spliced or very likely wouldn't (mario golf individual hole things you wouldn't splice nor various mk64 videos)  This will take work that so far I haven't seen anyone attempting.

Dunno why you want to totally throw away something that has been part of your life for so long but the japanese have tended to do this, I'm guessing it's out of embarrassment but really, come on man.  Some people have presumed the latter (you lied about a lot) because of this action which is reasonable but it's not enough of a reliable tell.

btw, this site shouldn't remove the records here unless you lied about them period and I recommend you go to VA anyway, I realize you won't know a lot of people there but they've either played MK or some game and understand what you've done (they'd basically all love you from what I hear others that know you say) and they won't harrass you or look down upon you because of this (in fact some of them have and yet everyone gets along).  Do you enjoy playing games and having fun?  Congrats, show up and have a good time.  (your persona would get in great with the hosts btw imo, I've been there every year in the past)

Just a thought since I don't think you're too far away from it.  It's the first week of august essentially (starts the 3rd I believe).  Hope you can come and heck, I don't care if you don't want to play MK there at all or any console game.  There's other things that happen there as it's more of a casual meet than a gaming meet (the gdq's are the gaming meet for the group now).  though you are certainly welcome to game because someone will jump in if you want.  Anything you enjoyed in a 64 there's enough people that will play it at about any given time.

(thread is up at the-elite gen chat btw)
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Reply #1490 - 02/07/15 at 18:13:41
 
ShadowOfMyles wrote on 02/07/15 at 08:15:29:
As this discussion continues, I will get into more specifics. I uploaded a ton of SM64 videos to youtube from May 2007 to May 2008. I set 63 consecutive single star WRs during that time. I saw a number of fatal signs that cheating was growing out of control in this game and finally accepted that I had wasted my time playing as the champion from 1999 to 2008. Finally, my heart for this game shattered within my rib cage never to be repaired and I gave in to what so many others were doing.


If you cheated because others were cheating, then why 16 star?  Why not some other category?  If I remember correctly, Marius had the 16 star WR.  As far as I know, he didn't cheat, so beating his WR by cheating wasn't very nice.

Does anyone know who was first to beat Marius' WR?  How long did he hold the WR?
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Reply #1491 - 02/07/15 at 18:38:01
 
ShadowOfMyles wrote on 02/07/15 at 12:43:50:
Thanks for the responses.

I am leaning towards not ever playing a video game competitively again and having all records removed (mario kart 64 included). I think it's best.

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Reply #1492 - 02/07/15 at 18:41:10
 
I've already lost a lot of respect here, but if you beat someone who hadn't cheated by cheating... that's terrible.  Especially when you used others cheating as an excuse to cheat. Please go to the meet,  I want to know all the time I've invested into your youtube vids hasn't gone to waste.
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Reply #1493 - 02/07/15 at 22:02:55
 
LewisRichards wrote on 02/07/15 at 18:41:10:
I've already lost a lot of respect here, but if you beat someone who hadn't cheated by cheating... that's terrible.  Especially when you used others cheating as an excuse to cheat. Please go to the meet,  I want to know all the time I've invested into your youtube vids hasn't gone to waste.


With all due respect, I get the feeling you know next-to-nothing about Myles' legacy, so I really feel like you're jumping the gun here (hah).

That said, I'm sad to hear that you spliced the run Myles. However, I do still respect you and how you've handled this. We're not trying to mob you; yes, you cheated a run. However, you're also one of the most important players to ever touch a N64 controller for not only SM64, but also MK64. Your early YouTube videos got many into both scenes that may have otherwise never bothered. Everyone in life stumbles and falls, but it's a matter of what you do with yourself after the fall. Whether or not you get up, stronger and wiser than before, or whether you let a simple stumble utterly defeat you.

This probably isn't the first time you've disappointed someone in life, and it most likely won't be the last, Myles. However, the same goes for every single person that has ever lived, and ever will live. Now, you could completely leave the scene forever, but think about that for a minute. Is one spliced run really worth all 15+ years of your legacy? Do you seriously think that? Because I most certainly don't, and neither does anyone here. I understand that you may have anxiety issues, but you can sort of think of the MK64 community, the people you've known and befriended for over a decade as an extension of a family, and as an extension of a family, we love you like family.

Just my $.02, you shouldn't let a spliced run completely break you. Sure, it's a disappointment to a lot of people, but one disappointment doesn't warrant exile. And if someone is willing to exile you and all of your work over one run from 6 years ago, then they're probably not worth trying to impress anyways. In other words, pick yourself up. Come back stronger, knowing it won't happen ever again. Live to play another day, so to speak.
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Reply #1494 - 02/07/15 at 22:17:46
 
hahaae wrote on 02/07/15 at 22:02:55:
LewisRichards wrote on 02/07/15 at 18:41:10:
I've already lost a lot of respect here, but if you beat someone who hadn't cheated by cheating... that's terrible.  Especially when you used others cheating as an excuse to cheat. Please go to the meet,  I want to know all the time I've invested into your youtube vids hasn't gone to waste.


With all due respect, I get the feeling you know next-to-nothing about Myles' legacy, so I really feel like you're jumping the gun here (hah).


I don't know nearly  as much as most of you here but I know mostly about his mk64 legacy because I am a mk64 player myself.  I've watched a lot of his youtube vids so that's how I know about his sm64. Don't get me wrong I still have respect for what he's done, especially in mk64 with myles style.  But since I've only been around a year I have only learned so much.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #1495 - 02/08/15 at 05:40:24
 
For now, it seems to be like this:

1) Some people think 16 star was the only time I cheated but I need to go to a meet to prove myself.
2) Others think I may have cheated more and need me to go to a meet to prove myself.

I'll be back next weekend so everyone has time to respond and I can take a few days to clear my mind. Eventually, when the dust settles I will explain why I did this.
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Reply #1496 - 02/08/15 at 10:46:55
 
Myles, at this point going to a meet to prove yourself (or having someone visit you) is just a way to get people to stop being skeptical about you. I think a lot of us believe your MK times are legit, and I think everyone here wants to believe they are legit, but trust is an important aspect of the site and ultimately you have shown that you have a willingness to cheat at a video game. Naturally there's going to be some doubts about your kart times and I don't think running away and asking all your times to be removed is going to solve anything, that's just going to leave hurt feelings on both sides. No one here wants you to go, the only person that thinks running away from this is a good idea is you. I'm 95% sure your kart times are all legit because splicing a kart run would probably be pretty close to impossible, but like I said if you want to go I'm not going to go out of my way to try and stop you.
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Reply #1497 - 02/08/15 at 13:03:06
 
not true, we want you to go to a meet, to meet you.
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Reply #1498 - 02/08/15 at 20:20:54
 
the hylian wrote on 02/08/15 at 02:16:55:
The weird thing to me is, why would you splice before the first star?
I think Caivs's original post said that were multiple (4?) splice points. I don't remember specifically what, but probably close to hard tricks like chain chomp gate, blast away the wall clip, etc.
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Reply #1499 - 02/09/15 at 06:46:15
 
Hey Myles,

I have heard your name in the Mini NLG and what I have heard didn't felt good to hear but maybe you can tell us how when and if it is only Mario 64 not that is a good choice you have made I guess. (NOT)

I don't jughe until someone tells me the truth himself. And I'm straight to the bone so maybe you can PM me and tell your story! I don't want this commotion highlited here so.   Wink

But I like to hear it by yourself what the reason is you did this on the Mario 64 star race?

My seond question has MK64 to do anything with your cheat?

3rd and last question. I hope we will ever meet bro I have a lot of respect for your mk64 achievemnets so I hope that mistake was the only one you made..

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