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Potential course limits VS. current ntsc WRs
09/24/04 at 19:26:40
 
edit* The WR times list was updated after finding faster times at the In The Sky SMK site. WRs that don't appear on Sami's site are in blue


I visit the SMK site of donnki (Masakazu Goto) and monchuck occasionally, and they have this page which shows the potential limits of each course for 5-lap and 1-lap (well, I'm assuming they are potential course limits). I'm not sure how they determine what the course limits are, but I enjoy comparing the current world records/fastest times to the potential course limits at donnki and monchuck's site. Keep in mind that the limits at the site are for Time Trials with NBT driving, and that sometimes the strats used in the current world records differ from those that are shown at their site.

Here is the section of their site: http://f31.aaacafe.ne.jp/~smkt/capture.htm
"Translated" to English: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=htt...

Here's a list of the potential course limits compared to the current fastest times that I know of: (unfortunately this is only for NTSC Undecided  I think it'd be awesome if there was the same thing for PAL, as well as potential course limits for Non-NBT driving)


MC1 = 0'55"80, 10"90 -- current WRs: 0'57"36, 11"05 -- difference: 1"56, 0"15
DP1 = 1'09"50, 13"80 -- current WRs: 1'10"88, 13"80 -- difference: 1"38, 0"00
GV1 = 0'58"95, 11"65 -- current WRs: 0'59"92, 11"80 -- difference: 0"97, 0"15
BC1 = 1'25"70, 17"00 -- current WRs: 1'26"76, 17"19 -- difference: 1"06, 0"19
MC2 = 1'01"50, 11"70 -- current WRs: 1'07"21, 13"07 -- difference: 5"71, 1"37

CI1 = 0'55"90, 10"60 -- current WRs: 0'56"57, 10"74 -- difference: 0"67, 0"14
GV2 = 0'58"50, 11"65 -- current WRs: 0'59"59, 11"68 -- difference: 1"09, 0"03
DP2 = 1'23"70, 16"70 -- current WRs: 1'24"90, 16"77 -- difference: 1"20, 0"07
BC2 = 1'37"20, 19"40 -- current WRs: 1'39"30, 19"67 -- difference: 2"10, 0"27
MC3 = 1'25"50, 17"00 -- current WRs: 1'26"98, 17"11 -- difference: 1"48, 0"11

KB1 = 0'46"50, 09"30 -- current WRs: 0'48"78, 09"39 -- difference: 2"28, 0"09
CI2 = 1'04"40, 12"70 -- current WRs: 1'06"73, 12"87 -- difference: 2"33, 0"17
VL1 = 0'47"70, 09"40 -- current WRs: 0'48"83, 09"55 -- difference: 1"13, 0"15
BC3 = 1'27"20, 17"20 -- current WRs: 1'28"27, 17"41 -- difference: 1"07, 0"21
MC4 = 1'31"00, 18"10 -- current WRs: 1'33"74, 18"35 -- difference: 2"74, 0"25

DP3 = 1'14"50, 14"80 -- current WRs: 1'18"20, 15"07 -- difference: 3"70, 0"27
KB2 = 0'54"00, 10"50 -- current WRs: 0'57"15, 10"54 -- difference: 3"15, 0"04
GV3 = 1'12"70, 14"40 -- current WRs: 1'13"42, 14"47 -- difference: 0"72, 0"07
VL2 = 0'45"50, 08"50 -- current WRs: 0'48"57, 09"06 -- difference: 3"07, 0"56
RR  = 1'23"80, 16"70 -- current WRs: 1'24"87, 16"88 -- difference: 1"07, 0"18

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Re: Potential course limits VS. current ntsc WRs
Reply #1 - 09/25/04 at 02:02:41
 
For anyone interested: (all of these times were done by Japanese players)


MC1
5-Lap
= 57"36 -- driven by Sugar
1-Lap = 11"05 -- driven by monchuck
Extra Info: monchuck has a 5-Lap time of 57"88. Sugar has a 1-Lap time of 11"22


GV1
5-Lap
= 59"92 -- driven by
Splits: 12"13, 11"92, 11"95, 11"95, 11"97
1-Lap = 11"80 -- driven by
Extra Info: monchuck has a 5-Lap time of 1'00"32 and a 1-lap time of 11"90.


MC2
5-Lap
= 1'07"21 -- driven by monchuck
1-Lap = 13"07 -- driven by monchuck
Extra Info: Su has a 5-Lap time of 1'08"95 and a 1-Lap time of 13"29.


GV2
5-Lap
= 59"59 -- driven by monchuck
Splits: 12"31, 11"90, 11"79, 11"79, 11"80
1-Lap = 11"68 -- driven by Sugar
Extra Info: Sugar has a 5-Lap of 59"95. monchuck's best lap is 11"77, check out his splits!


MC3
5-Lap
= 1'26"98 -- driven by Sugar


KB2
Extra Info: monchuck has a 1-Lap of 10"64


RR
5-Lap
= 1'24"87 -- driven by Sugar

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Re: Potential course limits VS. current ntsc WRs
Reply #2 - 09/25/04 at 02:19:24
 
RR  = 1'23"80, 16"70

I'm driving 1.30's and they're pretty fucking quick- that time is just an utter joke
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Re: Potential course limits VS. current ntsc WRs
Reply #3 - 09/25/04 at 02:20:53
 
Yeah, you're right Smiley
This is NTSC though, but it's still just about impossible to get a time like that (at least I hope it is)
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Re: Potential course limits VS. current ntsc WRs
Reply #4 - 09/25/04 at 02:23:23
 
Whats teh difference between pal and ntsc on a course like that?
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Re: Potential course limits VS. current ntsc WRs
Reply #5 - 09/25/04 at 02:29:32
 
Hmm, I'm not sure myself. But, the PAL WRs without boosts seem to be 1'27"34, 17"33 and the NTSC WRs without boosts are 1'24"99, 16"88
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Re: Potential course limits VS. current ntsc WRs
Reply #6 - 09/25/04 at 05:46:09
 
Yeah id say a 1'24"99 has got to be a low 1'27". i suppose little differences like gap jumping is a few pixels further on NTSC, helps jumping that little bit further across corners on RR. Like the GV1 gap being easier on NTSC. Nothing noticeable but stuff like that. A non-nbt course at that length will have about 2 seconds difference of 5-lap times between PAL and NTSC. PAL was reprogrammed so we cant make an exact conversion.

Still the Japanese limit expectations are crazy.

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