yeah, VL1 and VL2, the one reason not to play the game oh and BC3

I'd have to side with Tom on BC3. This is the track that I have the most difficulty with, by far.
I've been stuck on VL2 for a good while, but at least I can finish races from time to time.

The reason I tape times is that I can never be sure of beating them. That's rather sad for a seasoned karter, but all too true in this case.

I'm going to print out the current top 100 tables from the site, and hopefully David will have a full set of (top 100) times within two weeks.

Andreas

You know I'd probably feel the same way if it actually was rewarding for me.

As for the the taping - just to clarify, Karel - my brother would actually get the times prior to taping them, thus gearing them towards the 40 time total.  
I have yet to see a time not achieved evidenced by recording..

I know that the BC lava can be very frustrating especially if you're just getting started on these tracks, but quite frankly, being skilled in BC3 or either one of the 2 other BC's has very little to do with good jump timing.

Eventually, you get to a point where the jumping rythm and your driving become one, and from that point onwards, you can jump the BC3 bumping bars with the right timing about 95% of the time; Missing it will usually be caused by intense 4th or 5th lap stress, or your brother getting in-between the tv screen and you. For now, and until you get much lower in the 1'30's, I wouldn't bother too much about jumping any lava gap that you consider to be too risky. Or maybe you can start doing it on the 1st lap only, with the thwomps being out of the way, or anything you feel comfortable with, pretty much. I remember not even attempting to jump the 2 first bars (those being just before the 2nd corner) before I got into 1'30's (which may compare to 1'32's-1'33's in PAL), so it is clear that a good cornering matters as much, if not more at the end, and that's one of the things that makes the beauty of this course, in my opinion. (you always seem to find more way towards the inner side of the U-turns, hence your lap times progressively getting faster and faster, as if the course had no limits)

That being said, I find BC2 to be a more challenging course than BC3 is to finish 5 very good laps on. However, that may very well be caused by the fact that I cut inside the 2nd block.

The problem isn't that easy Samsim, you've suggested i just bounce over the zippers for now but i can't. I'm going to fast that i clear the next zipper and fall in the lava, i can't drive it "normally" like you can on mksc

RR is a nice track )

I know it does. (It's not terribly difficult to see.) I was just saying that this is what I had to do to actually finish five laps on the course. I'm not very consistent using the preferred method, which is why I also used it for the 1-lap PR.
I eventually got tired of messing up.

For me, there's always been a lot more work involved than simply establishing the fastest route, and playing for 10 minutes, even to hit something decent.
I have a lot of difficulty finishing races on the BCs.
I'll take it from there, but if I return, this course won't be my top priority.

Andreas

No, i'm talking about TT on Pal (if that makes a difference)

If you take BC3, drive the first corner, hope over the first two bouncers tight on the left, hop the first zipper of the second set and not the second and you'll fly straight into the lava over the far side. (left route/fastest route)

Or.. coming back round the first set of bouncers on lap 2 at full speed you hit the first bouncer and it will fly me directly into the lava just behind the second bouncer.

tom