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Reply #75 - 09/01/04 at 13:51:57
 
lol, just kidding with you all; you all know I don't care about what any of you think about me.

Lol, that's what you want us to think.  Looks like someone is jealous. Smiley  We all know that kart is the meaning of life and that the opinions that the karters on this site have about you is very important in order for you to be successful in life.

Yeah your out , Michael if you can't send a email send me a instant message on the MB.The winner will proberky get announced on each MK site,and the winner free girls

What???  I don't get a slow motion machine if I win?  Oh well, I guess I'll just be forced to do those girls 1.2024 times faster. Grin  (btw I think I might have stolen that joke from somewhere, though I can't remember where)
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Reply #76 - 09/01/04 at 14:29:10
 
HAHA thats really funny Fried , funniest thing you have ever said and to make me laugh  Grin , wheatrich your Brent Wingert right?Yeah i know who you are.
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Reply #77 - 09/01/04 at 15:17:20
 
Finally saw the post on the mkdd news......nice site, looks like a lot of work for a popularity contest......but I'm sure it'll b fun (atleast it'll b fun for everyone while there're still in)
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Reply #78 - 09/01/04 at 15:20:38
 
Ian   wrote on 09/01/04 at 12:44:49:
MorTwat, you're goin out in the opening round  Tongue


lol.......u should start him off against someone easy, maybe interduce a new karter to face off against Tits.

Round 1
Tits vs. Barbra Streisand  Grin Wink
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Reply #79 - 09/01/04 at 15:49:34
 
Nice sense of humor guys.

Oh well, let's get on with this already and place those matchups in which I get slaughtered.
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Reply #80 - 09/01/04 at 16:02:01
 
Just a few things...

-You guys have Jonathan Bernier listed as Bernier only. I think it's be better to have his full name like all the other karters. Same goes with Robin Usher.

-You guys made a typo in my name. It should be Louis-Philippe (1 L and 2 Ps).

Beside that, everything looks good. This thing should be interesting...

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Reply #81 - 09/01/04 at 17:40:25
 
Hey fellas, Ngamer here.  As the man behind the past two Summers at t-e.n, and an avid participant in each of the four GameFAQs Contests...  might I make a suggestion or two?


Lower the # of matches per day as the rounds progress.  Wow, 128 contestants?  This should be interesting, as I've never seen this type of contest pulled off with more than 64 before.  Going 4 matches a day in the early going is a good idea, sure... but you really ought to scale that back as the tourney continues and the matches grow more popular and exciting.  By the time you're down to the Sweet 16 (or at the VERY least the Elite 8), it really should be just one matchup per day.

Allow voting over AIM.  Let's face it:  people are lazy.  There may be four matchups going on in one day, but unless a player is especially motived to support one of the contestants, he's probably not going to take the time to search for the matchups, open up a browser, log into his e-mail program, type in an address, etc etc.  With AIM voting, the matchups are seen at a glance (always post them in your away message), and voted on within seconds.

Tanney, if you don't have broadband and wouldn't be able to stay online all day, I would strongly suggest that you find someone who can, to help you share the vote-collecting burden.  Speaking of which, I found tallying the results in Excel to a major help.  If you're going to be keeping track with e-mail, and someone else would handle AIM, it could be accomplished pretty easily as long as you both devote one cell to tracking the name of the player who cast the vote, along with who he choose.

Create a matchup/results topic.  And don't let anyone post in it, other than those involved in that day's matchup.  This is the way we've done things, and it just works so wonderfully on so many levels.  First, it's a single location for people to check the entire history of the Contest up to that point, as well as find out the very latest news.  But secondly, it's the perfect place for the contestants to make their own "campaign speech" and try to win votes, without spamming the board the death with new topics.  Back at our 64-man only Elite, where everybody knows everybody already, these speeches weren't all that useful in persuading.  But with 128 users, from across three different communities, I could see a few words here and there swinging plenty of votes.

Make the matchups highly visible.  Oh boy, here's a tough one.  There's no way everyone will have the time/ambition to keep them updated across 3 main pages. ..  What I did was to just keep things up to date on the top of our message boards, but I'm not sure that, with this system and these Mods/Admins, that's going to be an option.  But certainly it's worth looking into.

Allow people to predict how things are going to turn out.  A hightened level of interest is anyways created when you know that, heading into an especially important matchup, your "bracket is on the line," as we say.  wheat knows what I'm talking about.  But, I wouldn't worry about this just yet...  it would work best if you run through the first round, get it down to 64 players, and when that's over, take a short break.  In that time (maybe 2/3 days), the 64 could be seeded based on their performance into a classic March Madness-style bracket.  Then you could enter that bracket into bracketmaker, and have an automatic prediction system already in place.

Just a thought, and I realize it would take a little extra work, but I can pretty much guarentee it would pay off many times over in the end.

Alright, but in any case, good luck with this thing guys.  Hopefully it'll be as big a success as we've experienced the past two summers.

Oh, and might I hazard an early prediction?  I see Derek Clark pulling a clean sweep, taking home the title of world's most popular Karter in another dramatic finish (this time over Kevin Booth).
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Reply #82 - 09/01/04 at 21:05:57
 
i've been an active member of all the sites in one way or another and been posting on the board since day dot.. i know i'm not as known as some people but there are people in the second bracket who i dont know. and more so people in certain top two brackets because of achievements other people would know very little about.

case example being andy l, i know what he contributed to the site in the early years but who in smk would? what has he contributed since 1998? he's go in the third bracket in my humble opinion
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Reply #83 - 09/01/04 at 21:17:11
 
Andy Launspach was one of the most important players back in the day, namely during the "Feared Four Era."  He might be more signifcant than you think.  Ask Booth.
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Reply #84 - 09/01/04 at 22:31:43
 
Launspach was probably the most popular karter in 1997 (to the group that made it onto his site). I think that counts for something. His popularity waned in his idle years, especially due to the whole LAUNDA2K incident, but with his recent comeback, opinion of him is most likely on the rise.

Admittedly, a group 2 seed seems a little high given that it has to weigh so heavily on 1 year in his career, but he is still a big name (to whatever extent) and to put him in group 3 might only cause his matchup against a group 2 player to make him the favorite to win, regardless of seed. I think a group 2 seeding is okay.

As for the seedings I am surprised by, I think Bernier as a group 2 seems a little low for him, but I'm not sure if there is someone on the group 1 list that is less deserving.

In think the Elsaesser brothers are getting a steal in group 3...I feel bad for the group 2 players they get matched against.

Finally, Wingert in 4 seems odd. He's a fairly active poster here. Maybe not the most popular guy around, but I have a hard time believing he shouldn't replace someone on group 3 at very least.

Oh yes, and from what I hear, John Five is a one man wrecking crew, so let's just hope he doesn't get paired with Booth. I'd hate to lose Kevin so early. Smiley

That said, though, I'm going to try to be satisfied with whatever I can get from this tournament. I'm happy that someone is doing something fun around here for once. I visit t-e.n regularly and it seems that they're stomping us on creativity when it comes to stuff like this, so it should be nice to participate for once.

However, that doesn't really help me from being concerned about potential downfalls here. I hope we get some kind of bracket (or additional seeding within group 1) when it hits 64/32. Otherwise, I fear that we'll be looking at a lot of group 1 vs group 1 battles, which could easily eliminate someone that should go deep into the tournament.
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Reply #85 - 09/01/04 at 22:48:16
 
woohoo group 2!!  Grin

but like...somebody...mentioned before, i have a first name as well, and i dont mind you including it  Tongue

btw the Seedings page worked, but the Karter's list didnt.  Not that it matters, since they are all listed in the Seeding page anyway...but just thought you ought to know
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Reply #86 - 09/01/04 at 23:14:59
 
Yeah, point taken about andy being the most popular karter in 97 but the only people who talk of him these days are the likes of you and booth, liem and penev. With so much fresh blood in the site (and top 25) int he last two years "heroes" and "legends" so to speak are changing. Hows andy going to match up with someone (as a seed 2) when he's not said a word to anyone else other than the aforementioned in 5 years?!?!

robin, who are you? i presume your mkdd
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Reply #87 - 09/01/04 at 23:21:34
 
That's Robin Usher from MK64, not MKDD.  He's quite active with PRs nowadays.
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Reply #88 - 09/01/04 at 23:49:46
 
cool, nice to meet you robin

i think the player bios will make some difference and therefore would influence seeding more. cause on who knows who half of those players i think would be missed out
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Reply #89 - 09/02/04 at 00:43:42
 
i'm low in the ranks in mk64, that's probably why you haven't heard of me.  and my PRing WAS good, but unforetunately i think it's done for a long time (school just started up again).

but i also manage the rivalries part of the mk64 site, and i will be continuing that even if i cant kart
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Reply #90 - 09/02/04 at 02:39:21
 
I think the group 1s are perfect, all my favourites are in there (as in those who I think can win), I think Andy is deserving, I only joined the site in January of this year but I know who he is, I think alot of the new guys check the history archives to see what happened before they came, and Andy's name is always there. BTW please can someone update the Who's the best page.
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Reply #91 - 09/02/04 at 03:22:59
 
Don't mean to try and persuade your votes but the better I do, the more regular updates for you lot  Grin
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Reply #92 - 09/02/04 at 04:35:01
 
haha, good one! blackmail for votes
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Reply #93 - 09/02/04 at 05:06:13
 
I can help if you guys want me to.  Being on AIM or helping put people in bracketmaker or whatever if you wish.  heck even some bios if you all want me to.  (I won't have a lot of time so I can't do all of it however)

for the matchups--you guys should set aside some space on the site or at least forum so all you have to do is update those matchups on that space instead of posting something new every single day as I know that'll be tiresome.

4 a day at the beginning sounds good, then maybe 2 a day in the round of 64.  And once it gets to 32, just one a day perhaps.

assuming my off the top of my head calculations are correct that would be (in days)
16+16+16+8+4+2+1 (2 if a 3rd place contest)=about 2 months

and definitely take what ngamer suggested as he knows what he's doing with regards to these things.

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Reply #94 - 09/02/04 at 05:06:30
 
No vote for you then Ian........blackmailer Angry Wink
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Reply #95 - 09/02/04 at 05:46:53
 
Wheatrich:I will ask if i need help but i the minute i need no help.Everything you have mentioned in your post we are doing.
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Reply #96 - 09/02/04 at 06:38:46
 
hey tanney bit of a prob mate..i don't know if anyone told you yet but in seed 3 david cowman and david lalo are the same guys..oh yeah Fear the Five
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Reply #97 - 09/02/04 at 07:23:53
 
I'll do what I can as admin of this board to make the matchups visible on the board. However that might involve some doing so I might have to talk to Tanney or whoever is organizing this thing to get a list of all of the matchups. I can do it dynamically using PHP easily enough but I need  info before I get started.

Also, I agree with most of Jon's suggestions. Take it from a guy who has run (and nearly won) 2 of these things that turned out to be EXTREMELY successful. Most importantly I think the players need to be reseeded after the 1st or 2nd round once it gets down to 32 players. And once that happens it needs to go down to 1 or 2 matches a day at the most and like Jon said 1 match a day when it gets down to 16.
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Reply #98 - 09/02/04 at 08:07:42
 
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Yeah, point taken about andy being the most popular karter in 97 but the only people who talk of him these days are the likes of you and booth, liem and penev. With so much fresh blood in the site (and top 25) int he last two years "heroes" and "legends" so to speak are changing. Hows andy going to match up with someone (as a seed 2) when he's not said a word to anyone else other than the aforementioned in 5 years!


Correction: I don't talk to him. I think my fake chats really drove a wedge between us.

I never said that I thought he was truly a popular figure today, that he would gather a lot of votes, or even that he has my vote. I was just saying that regardless of how few people he talks to, a lot of people know his name, and he has been praised on the main page a few times for being the champ in '97. I think depending on who he draws, he may end up getting a lot of votes just for his name and what he did back then, not specifically for his character and what people know of him.

However, I did say in my last post that group 2 might be slightly high. As we're only on our first shot at this, I think that may be fair. If we end up doing a second tournament (like t-e.n), then we can adjust the seeding accordingly.
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Reply #99 - 09/02/04 at 08:13:41
 
Aha , maybe Tory can be imputted after all  Roll Eyes.
Mark:Me and Michael have thought of a way so the Results and fixtures can be posted on the mkdd,mk64 and smk sites , but Sami wont approve on it on his site , we have to talk to him.
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