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hiya people

I was wondering what sort of times people have using koopa or toad. I asked sami about the official koopa and toad site and he said it hasnt been updated in ages. I visited the french forum but i cant read french so no help there! I'm hoping the french karters will read this as they seem to be the most active with toad or koopa. I'm only #84 on pal but this is due to only recently starting to use bowser when I have used toad for so long. My toad times are pretty close to the times on the koopa and toad site but because it hasnt been updated for ages it might mean nothing. Any help (or times) would be great.

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Reply #1 - 08/24/04 at 10:17:22
 
MC1  1'05"94    Pierre            12"78      Pierre
DP1  1'19"83    Pierre            15"69      Pierre
GV1  1'12"36    Kryss            13"41      Kryss
BC1  1'36"33    Pierre            19"11        Pierre
MC2  1'19"60    Pierre            15"17 (LB)  Pierre
 
CI1  1'03"50    Pierre          12"58    Pierre
GV2  1'07"44    Pierre          13"35    Pierre    
DP2  1'33"88  Pierre            18"53    Pierre
BC2  1'51"04    Pierre          21"83    Pierre
MC3  1'38"70    Pierre          19"41    Pierre

KB1  0'59"85    Pierre          11"04      Pierre
CI2  1'13"29    Pierre          14"15    Pierre
VL1  0'56"21    Pierre          10"73      Pierre
BC3  1'38"38    Pierre          19"34      Pierre
MC4  1'44"33    Pierre          20"26      Pierre

DP3  1'26"70    Pierre          16"95    Pierre
KB2  1'02"56    Pierre          11"88    Pierre
GV3  1'21"80    Pierre          16"13    Pierre
VL2  0'56"49    Pierre          10"55    Pierre  
RR    1'34"72    Pierre          18"72    Pierre

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Re: koopa and toad times
Reply #2 - 08/24/04 at 10:28:01
 
hi

cheers for the wr's boss, I'm 100% sure my MC1 five lap is quicker than the one youve shown. It was in the first set of times I sent sami when I joined the site. Since I only have one mariokart cartridge it has since gone from my records as I have beaten them with bowser. It was close to 1.05.7x i think. Not to sure about my other times, i'l have to check. What sort of verivication would be needed?

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Reply #3 - 08/24/04 at 21:51:13
 
Lol, I don't worry, I'm 100% sure you can't beat my 1'05"94, except if you use sandboosts or if you played NTSC ! My 1'05"94 is taped with other courses, you can see it on my proof page ! Wink
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Reply #4 - 08/25/04 at 05:13:51
 
yo

I shall make it my mission to prove I can beat that time on MC1 cause I know i've done it before! Plus it wasnt done on NTSC but on PAL, and I didnt use Boosts or anything. A bit of friendly competition never hurt anyone!
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Reply #6 - 08/26/04 at 02:42:55
 
loooooooool @cannonclark,   sorry.... Grin
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Reply #7 - 08/26/04 at 10:35:33
 
KartSeven   wrote on 08/24/04 at 21:51:13:
Lol, I don't worry, I'm 100% sure you can't beat my 1'05"94, except if you use sandboosts or if you played NTSC ! My 1'05"94 is taped with other courses, you can see it on my proof page ! Wink


Ok yeah so you're sure that you raced the most PERFECT race ever. NO POSSIBILITY of improvement. Yeah, I'm sure of that too. Stop being so confident. Damn.

Okay sorry, maybe it's just because you're originally french and so your English sounds more harsh for some reasons. Anyway, maybe I have the same problem, or not.
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Reply #8 - 08/26/04 at 14:26:35
 
Actually, I watched Pierre's 1'05"94, and I remember I was a little disappointed when I did. This was not about how good or bad the run was really, because it sure is a good run, but Pierre, on the French forum, really made it sound like it was the most perfect race ever.

I've gotten 1'05"53 I think in NTSC (might be 1'05"52), and while this may not be nearly as good as what Pierre got in PAL, I believe I could get something similar if I tried out the last pipe cut and worked on my cornering a bit more. Most of the corners in Pierre's vid can easily be imagined as being taken a little sharper, and although doing so is far from being an easy feat, I'm sure someone who really played MC1 in PAL a lot with Koopa can get something similar to what Pierre got after a decent amount of practise, unlike Sami's 1'00"99 with D.K.Jr, for instance. As far as Chris' 1'05"7x goes, well, I'd say we would have good reasons to remain pessimistic towards such a fast time, but he nevertheless deserves a fair chance to prove his claim or explain his typo/mistake if there appears to be one (in any case, I don't think he's trying to make up a lie just for the hell of making up one)

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Okay sorry, maybe it's just because you're originally french and so your English sounds more harsh for some reasons. Anyway, maybe I have the same problem, or not.


I think it may have something to do. I sometimes look back on the old messages I was sending to Yahoo groups back in 2001 when my english really sucked, and damn did I look pretentious...  Smiley Or maybe was I just truly like that when I was 14...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - 08/27/04 at 09:34:26
 
yeah, like those messages on the old smk board.  i think there's a difference between boasting a good time and actually demotivating other karters.
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Reply #10 - 09/01/04 at 09:01:39
 
Well, last month I improved my non-NBT lap from 13"10 to 13"07 ! Shocked So, the limit before was 1'05"80 and now it could be 1'05"6x ! Shocked

So OK a 1'05"7x is possible, but sorry Clark, but I'm sure of that : you couldn't do a 1'05"7x ! I know SMK very well, you're only #84 on PAL, so I confirm my opinion !

If you'll do a time under 1'05"90 and if you'll tape it, you can be sure that I'll apologize, and very Embarrassed ! So I wait... Grin Wink
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Reply #11 - 09/01/04 at 22:02:56
 
I really don't like the idea of gearing your improvements directly towards the absolute minimum.
"Because my lap time is now this, the limit is this."
Really looks awful. I can count the situations in the past during my time here, where it has actually been true, on my arms, if not my nose, even. But I have yet to see any incident match this one in terms of confidence and arrogance.
It also looks really awful when higher ranked players tells lower ranked players things like "You can never beat my time, because you are rank such and such, as opposed to me." Even though that was not directed to me, I react very strongly against it. And believe me, I would have reacted just the same if I were ranked higher.

It has reached the point where I feel I no longer can blame the harshness, not to say rudeness, of Pierre's reply on difficulties with the language.

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Reply #12 - 09/02/04 at 06:33:02
 
That's true Andreas. Although Pierre is one hell of an SMK-player, he shouldn't think his times are the limit. I am pretty sure it is very close to it, but the way he rages against others is unheard of.

Don't get this wrong. Pierre is a nice guy I think, never had an argument or whatsoever during my (few) conversations over messenger, but the way he is replying strikes me as pure arrogance.

I don't mean to be rude or anything, cause I am usually overexcited about my own times aswell  Wink, although I never think I've reached a limit.....and if I thought I would have, it would be MY limit not THE limit!

Just keep on karting everyone, and let's compete by times and not with words.....
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Reply #13 - 09/02/04 at 09:32:30
 
Hmmm... it's not arrogance, it's mistrust ! You know I love SMK, I love competition, and I'll be really delighted if someone improve my 1'05"94 at MC1, non-NBT !

But I'd like to reason Chris : it's easy to say : "I'm 100% sure of something" ! But he has to realize, a 1'05"7x is simply amazing ! I assume 1'05"94 with Koopa correspond to 1'01"20 with Bowser ! So a 1'05"7x (let's say 1'05"78) is about 1'01"05 with Bowser ! Shocked Do you accept that someone says "I'm 100% sure I did 1'01"0x with Bowser on PAL and non-NBT" ? You'd want proof and it's normal ! And maybe few people would say "It's impossible ! You're not at the top list, so I'm sure you're wrong" !

So sorry if I'm so distrustful, but it's my passion who is speaking ! My opinion won't change : I'm 99,99% sure Chris wasn't quicker than me at MC1 ! But, Chris, I wait a video or at least a photo ... or a message which say you were mistaken ! Grin

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Reply #14 - 09/02/04 at 09:37:03
 
How do you know so sure a time like that equals 1'01'20 with Bowser though? ???

It didn't look that way at all when I watched the video to be honest.
Besides comparing times of Toad with Bowser times is impossible anyway in my opinion
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That's right I can't proof it ! I'm 100% sure of that, but ... Lips Sealed ... I have any argument ! Sorry !
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Reply #16 - 09/02/04 at 10:04:28
 
How long did you play with Koopa overall, compared to your playtime with Bowser in Time Trial?

And how long did you play with Koopa specifically on MarioCircuit 1?
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Reply #17 - 09/02/04 at 22:13:14
 
So, while you all discussing here, I broke the MC 1 record with Toad, 1,05,64 is the time,  you can have a vid in two dayz on msn!  i am high in the list, so you can believe me!
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Reply #19 - 09/03/04 at 04:14:05
 
I played with Koopa as longer as with Bowser (I'm serious) !

And lol Armin, your 1'05"64 is impossible on PAL ! Grin Even if it's NBT, I'm 500% sure of that ! You'll never fool me ! Grin Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - 09/04/04 at 22:58:20
 
Damn, you always find out the truth!!!  Wink

But the try was nice, you must admit hehe

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Reply #21 - 09/05/04 at 06:32:10
 
Hey guys

Seems to be quite a hot topic. Maybe its because i'm english but pierre's replies seem only to back up my thought that all french are arrogant (poor sterotype sorry) nonetheless i have been karting hard with toad on MC1 and have hit 1.06.32 with him but I am improving and will have a video as soon as I figure out how to record it. As for limits before I found this site I thought all my Time Trail times were my limits but have since smashed them so why cant even the fastest times be improved with a little hard work. Do you think the 100m world record will never be beaten, because it will and its only a matter of time before it does, the same applies with SMK, The 1.00.00 barrier was broken on MC1 and many people thought that couldnt be done.

Final thought Greece 1 France 0!!!! Euro 2004 (underdogs can beat the favourites)
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Reply #22 - 09/05/04 at 07:11:53
 
hey!

The hot topic makes me robotic *g*. I think I drove a 1,06,88 once with Toad, as I played Toad still for my Donkey Kong career! And at this time, my non-nbt skill was not too good, if you know what I mean, maybe a 1,06,4x is really easy possible.

Hmm, I think you said you have the WR on MC 1 cannonclark? or have I missunderstand something? hmm why do you know have only a 1,06,3x?

weird, weird.........

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Reply #23 - 09/05/04 at 07:30:12
 
ArminHuber   wrote on 09/05/04 at 07:11:53:
Hmm, I think you said you have the WR on MC 1 cannonclark? or have I missunderstand something? hmm why do you know have only a 1,06,3x?


He never talked about having the MC1 WR.
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Reply #24 - 09/05/04 at 09:35:39
 
cannonclark   wrote on 08/24/04 at 10:28:01:
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cheers for the wr's boss, I'm 100% sure my MC1 five lap is quicker than the one youve shown. It was in the first set of times I sent sami when I joined the site. Since I only have one mariokart cartridge it has since gone from my records as I have beaten them with bowser. It was close to 1.05.7x i think. Not to sure about my other times, i'l have to check. What sort of verivication would be needed?

cheers chris


Yes he did Martin, the Koopa/toad WR that is.
But I assume that's what Armin meant  Smiley
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