Single laps, that's I can do "easily" too on 60 hz nowadays, that's why I'm a far way ahead from grard on laps, look I have 7 laps WRs, and jongerius said one day that he tried 50 hz after a day of playing and he had to restart lots of times because he was going to PR easily, maybe you have the problem of switching.

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ok, well if you played other games then you will have an idea, but I can't really say any more, I've changed to 60 I'm still play the same as i used to and i don' think I pr any differently. We can go into a big discussion about this but it is pointless I've shown that for me personally going from 50 to 60 only takes a few weeks or so to get used too. It's really up to you what you think, I've shown what i needed to it just up to you to accept it if you don't want to it fine with me not accpeting 50Hz because I accept them and I think you need to see that skill is skill no matter what the Hertz.

Simple logic implies that slower = easier. But since I can't play 50hz, and Bhoj has experience to back his argument, plus solid WR's in both 50 and 60hz, I have no problem taking his word for it that the difference is miniscule.

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I played 50hz a while back to try it out , i manage to play for 3-4days and it was very hard and boring , i didnt pr once and didnt get anywhere near my prs.MJ's times arent spectatular so of course he is going to pr all the time even if he changed to 50hz.I don't find 50hz at more of advantage and cheating , it may be slower yes , they may be able to get the corners tighter then us 60hz players yes , but they will come out as the same result in the end , it just takes more time in 60hz to perfect a run.People that can't play 60hz for example Alex he isnt going to buy a new tv just to play mkdd in 60hz is he that would be pointless.Some people play in 50hz to record then move swiftley back onto 60hz , some just stay at 50hz i dunno why ask them , and some play 50hz bcoz there tv don't support 60hz.

Also i read many a times about mk64 that PAL sucks and its cheating of some sort i can't remeber , we have no other option , you ntsc players only can play 60hz , we pal players only can play 50hz so it aint cheating,so basically its just really the same , mk64 PAL players cant play 60hz , mkdd players with tv that don't work on 60hz can't play.So i would like a reason why players that play 50hz and there tv can play on 60hz in why they are playing it?

I remeber Jonathan Steel asking me to play 50hz as i would pr all the time , but i said no,Johnathan how do you know that i would pr all the time have you played 60hz before?If you have your times would have not been as impressive as they are now , so it would have been quite easier to pr.

No, not too many people have an issue with the conversion rate... for all intents and purposes the conversion is quite accurate. The reason people complain about PAL having an advantage in MK64 is because the game runs slower thus giving you more reaction time. The defense of that argument is that for every 6 attempts an NTSC player has at a run a PAL player can only make 5 attempts in the same amount of time so it takes longer to PR. For example a 5 minute run on Rainbow Road in NTSC takes 6 minutes in PAL.

Ya, but 60hz ppl miss more mt's, and thus have more useless /screwed-up runs.

when i was playing 50hz i was still missing mts, not much and not less than 60hz

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I do still miss them and most of my runs are fucked up because of that, its just I feel I miss less in 60 than in 50, but it probably just me .

Actually I do think that "reaction time"  can b a factor.
You may do the same thing 100+ times, but you're never going to do it exactly the same. Take the big round corner in LC for example where u should try to get 5 mt's. I'm constantly reacting to the karts position by tapping the stick to keep the kart as close to the sand as possible without touching it.
Again, I don't think it matters a lot, but it does matter.

And as for the mt differece, I think switching probably presents it's own problems. So to really determine this one we'd probably need 2 ppl who have played both speeds exclusively.....But then skill comes into the equation too.
So until we get a set of twins that have never played and agree to play the same amount of time each on different speeds, we'll never know for sure  

Yeah in 50hz i missed a hell of alot mt's its because the 50hz mode can not pick up the speed you do mts in 60hz , i also noticed when i was driving in 50hz , i was driving MB and in the 2nd tunnel i kept sticking to the wall and stopping , whats that all about ?

Yes it is, I guess, but that's a pretty lame argument by 50hz players

I think human eyes start to see frames as a moving picture at about 14 fps. So visually, you won't notice much of a difference between 50 and 60 Hz.

Higher frames are better.. one reason why you could want to increase the Hz on your computer monitor.