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Yet Another Waluigi Stadium Mystery? (Read 1269 times)
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Re: Yet Another Waluigi Stadium Mystery?
Reply #25 - 08/05/04 at 22:09:33
 
Ian   wrote on 08/05/04 at 22:04:08:
I disagree, not everyone can perform the SC so they're at unfair disadvantage


Well just because some people can't perform the shortcut then it should'nt be accepted , i don't think that's a good enough accuss to not accept it.If it is made we will still have the non-sc , so it won't make much different.
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Reply #26 - 08/05/04 at 22:16:46
 
Ian   wrote on 08/05/04 at 22:04:08:
I disagree, not everyone can perform the SC so they're at unfair disadvantage and also how can you call anyone cheaters? If they know they're not allowed to use the SC and give a SC time then that's just the same as lying about your time in the 1st place. 95% of the times (in the top 50 at least) for WS look legit but it's the rest that need confirmation from the player or if it looks really sus ie. 30/32 times ranked 100+ with the 2 WS ones in the top 30 say then they will be removed if the player doesn't reply when contacted.


We have to discribe the strategie of the SC on the strategie page. Then everyone can do this SC.

PS a 100+ ranked players can do the SC witch means everybody can do this SC with a little practise.  Cheesy
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Reply #27 - 08/06/04 at 03:12:32
 
I don't like the shortcut because it wasn't designed to be there and using it means you're not playing the course as it was meant to be played.
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Reply #28 - 08/06/04 at 04:04:43
 
hmm, tanney, we're not talking about to make a separate chart for sc, we're talking about to accept it on the normal ranking, like cyberscore/japanese sites/french rank, this sc on mkdd is totally different from mk64 game, on mk64 we have thousand of sc and lots of them are really big ones that cuts all the track and so hard to do (and need luck), but mkdd seems just to have this ws sc and just cut a small part of the road that give you just around 2 seconds, and the mkdd sc is easy to do, of course you need to practice like all tracks and everything else, don't u think that to take that yc sc without shroom is harder than the ws sc? And people should get that one too, and the dkm one took hours for me to get used, I think it's terrible for people who has played the sc and saved the times have to play it without sc and take note of the times, It would be really better for the site to accept the sc, that's what I think.

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Re: Yet Another Waluigi Stadium Mystery?
Reply #29 - 08/06/04 at 04:08:32
 
DaveJL   wrote on 08/06/04 at 03:12:32:
I don't like the shortcut because it wasn't designed to be there and using it means you're not playing the course as it was meant to be played.


But think in this way, we're not suppose to get as fast times as possible without cheating? (cheating means actionreplay) So the WS SC is just a strategy to get a faster time on the track. And I really think that Nintendo knew the SC before releasing the game, the SC is just a trick.

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Reply #30 - 08/06/04 at 04:25:33
 
exactly same way of think than Moritz.... Cheesy
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Reply #31 - 08/06/04 at 04:29:47
 
Moritz   wrote on 08/06/04 at 04:08:32:
But think in this way, we're not suppose to get as fast times as possible without cheating? (cheating means actionreplay) So the WS SC is just a strategy to get a faster time on the track. And I really think that Nintendo knew the SC before releasing the game, the SC is just a trick.

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hmm, Nintendo knew about the glitch, may be they did but i don't think they knew. If they knew they would have figured out some way to stop it from happening as it is obviosuly a glitch. They obviously tried hard to stop every possible glitch by putting loads of invisible walls every where to stop from jumping over them. If they knew about this they would have stopped it too because they clearly tried ot make a glitchless game that is not like mk64. Smiley

Edit: Oh yeh I dont really mind taking the shorcut or not because i can do it as i do it in vs mode against my mates all the time. I'll just go along with what the majority say.
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Reply #32 - 08/06/04 at 04:35:03
 
I don't know much bout game designing but it must be pretty much impossible to correct every glitch.  Every game i've every played has at least one obv error.  I don't think nintendo knew bout it & i'm sure there is another out there that's stupidly hard to find unless by pure chance.

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Reply #33 - 08/06/04 at 05:06:01
 
Moritz   wrote on 08/06/04 at 04:04:43:
hmm, tanney, we're not talking about to make a separate chart for sc, we're talking about to accept it on the normal ranking, like cyberscore/japanese sites/french rank, this sc on mkdd is totally different from mk64 game, on mk64 we have thousand of sc and lots of them are really big ones that cuts all the track and so hard to do (and need luck), but mkdd seems just to have this ws sc and just cut a small part of the road that give you just around 2 seconds, and the mkdd sc is easy to do, of course you need to practice like all tracks and everything else, don't u think that to take that yc sc without shroom is harder than the ws sc? And people should get that one too, and the dkm one took hours for me to get used, I think it's terrible for people who has played the sc and saved the times have to play it without sc and take note of the times, It would be really better for the site to accept the sc, that's what I think.

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Oh well  im against having it on the site.

edit:well after thinking about it , i would prefer as you won't get cheaters sumbmitting saying that there time is non sc,so i will accept it.
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Reply #34 - 08/06/04 at 06:26:41
 
but i guess ill try Barrel Train for lap.
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Reply #35 - 08/06/04 at 06:35:57
 
DaveJL   wrote on 08/06/04 at 03:12:32:
I don't like the shortcut because it wasn't designed to be there and using it means you're not playing the course as it was meant to be played.


Brilliantly said! The game intends you to go over (well around) the bumps and right of the S bend towards the zipper. It does NOT intend for you to use a glitch that Ninty didn't want in the game.
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Reply #36 - 08/06/04 at 06:39:12
 
You can't say nintendo did or didn't want the shortcut in the game or not , how do you know ? did they tell you ?  Tongue
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Reply #37 - 08/06/04 at 06:40:21
 
Paul Tanney   wrote on 08/06/04 at 06:39:12:
You can't say nintendo did or didn't want the shortcut in the game or not , how do you know ? did they tell you ?  Tongue


Of course, Mr Miyamoto gave me a ring just the other day about it  Wink Well you're right I can't be sure but let's be realistic  Grin
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Reply #38 - 08/06/04 at 07:03:50
 
huh Undecided
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Reply #39 - 08/06/04 at 07:05:54
 
Ian   wrote on 08/06/04 at 06:35:57:
Brilliantly said! The game intends you to go over (well around) the bumps and right of the S bend towards the zipper. It does NOT intend for you to use a glitch that Ninty didn't want in the game.


Why not? The game intends you to go as fast as you can like a said before.

And thinking like you, do you think that the game doesn't intend you to make the turn on dkm and yc without shroom?

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Reply #40 - 08/06/04 at 07:08:31
 
Weather nintendo intended it or Mr. Miyamoto just fucked up is irrelevent at this point. The SC is there, and ppl should be able to submit their fastest times possible......which means the SC should be allowed.
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Reply #41 - 08/06/04 at 07:08:40
 
I know what your getting at Moritz but DKM & YC are totally obv to everyone & r short-cuts  unlike the "glitch" of WS.  Glitch's in my opinion r different to short-cuts & so should be either seperate or not taken into account atall.

Then again i'm biased cause i can't seem to do it anyway Wink
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Reply #42 - 08/06/04 at 07:08:42
 
Moritz   wrote on 08/06/04 at 07:05:54:
Why not? The game intends you to go as fast as you can like a said before.

And thinking like you, do you think that the game doesn't intend you to go over the turn on dkm and yc without shroom?

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Yes thats right , the staff ghost doesnt take the shortcut on DKM why?
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Reply #43 - 08/06/04 at 07:15:13
 
i know that is pretty weird
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Reply #44 - 08/06/04 at 07:35:02
 
Matt B   wrote on 08/06/04 at 07:08:31:
Weather nintendo intended it or Mr. Miyamoto just fucked up is irrelevent at this point. The SC is there, and ppl should be able to submit their fastest times possible......which means the SC should be allowed.


Would you be saying the same thing if the glitch was at the start of the lap and put you at the end of the course within a second or 2?
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Reply #45 - 08/06/04 at 07:50:13
 
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You can't say nintendo did or didn't want the shortcut in the game or not , how do you know ? did they tell you ?  



Since Nintendo obviously tried extremely hard to make sure there were no glitches in MKDD (invisible walls and stuff), I'm pretty sure the Big N didn't know about the WS glitch. Roll Eyes


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Reply #46 - 08/06/04 at 07:53:15
 
Ian   wrote on 08/06/04 at 07:35:02:
Would you be saying the same thing if the glitch was at the start of the lap and put you at the end of the course within a second or 2?



Good point Grin

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Reply #47 - 08/06/04 at 08:13:23
 
Maybe I wouldn't be saying the same thing if the sc was at the beginning. But it's not at the beginning and my reasoning was based on being able to get lesser times so the points mute anyway. The charts should represents who can get around the course in the least amount of time......period.
Then if u want - create a topic called "the pure WS" and bragg about your slower non'sc times on here with other ppl that are frightened by it. Hell, create one for DKM, and one using the baby carriage too while you're at it Tongue  
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Reply #48 - 08/06/04 at 08:55:12
 
Matt B   wrote on 08/06/04 at 08:13:23:
The charts should represents who can get around the course in the least amount of time......period.  


If that's the case, will we start letting people submit times achieved through Action Replay as well?

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Reply #49 - 08/06/04 at 09:06:53
 
Ok, if you don't like my point....argue it on it merits. We can play the what if game all fuckin day. Obviously, there's a difference between cheating and takin a sc. The sc is part of the game, and it requires skill to do it well. And on another note, it would be nice to have all the undisputed wr's on this site, and without the sc that's not possible.
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