Hmmm, I've actually wondered about this. But it's probably too soon; I'm sure in another couple months we'll know a lot more.

Right now, I'd just change the BC standards....that God time was way too easy for Paul to get

Don't adjust the standards! I've just beaten my last Adv A time that I've had for ages (DKM lap) and have just 1 Exp D time to beat (again DKM lap). Surely it's too soon to do a complete revamp?  ???

I dont think the standards will change as people will just beat more GOD standards and want them put higher again , i dont see any point.

If we'd ever change standards, we'll never change the standards so that a certain overall rank becomes harder to reach. We'll never say: "hey, the BC, RR, BP and DC GOD standards are too easy, let's make the standards for those 4 courses harder now..." That would cause everyone to go down in rank. And that's not what the standards were designed for. Standards were designed to be fixed in time, so if you once achieve a standard rank, you should have achieved it forever.

A thing that could be possible though is "balancing the standards". If we see that on track1 ten people beat a GOD standard, and on track2 nobody can even beat a Titan C standard, then we might make the track1 standard harder, and make the track2 standard easier. That way, both tracks become equally challenging again, and the overall ARR scores of the players stay roughly the same.
So, that's a possibility, although we shouldn't do that too often, since it will still be kinda annoying and confusing.

And there's one other possibility. It's possible that in the future the GOD standards are getting too easy. For example if several of the top players are beating more than 20 out of 32 GOD times, or if GOD standards get beaten by several tenths or even several seconds. If that happens, we could make all GOD standards harder, leave the Titan standards as they are, and add a new rank between Titan and GOD. I don't know if that will be needed though. We tried to make the GOD standards so that such a new rank wouldn't be necessary in the future. But the future can't be predicted... And players are improving fast. What do you think? Will there be a time in the future where GOD standards become too easy to beat for the top players?

may i suggest idol or deity

What about making GOD standards a little harder on some courses and putting Titan+ as the GOD times are now , and for the really hard GOD times just put in Titan+ in between GOD and Titan A , i got the idea from MK64,what you think , scrap the idea or ...........

I didnt say anything about my suggestion being for now  

That's why I think they should be adjusted later so that the current God times become Titan+ and the God times become next to impossible to achieve. If ppl start getting a lot of God times, they might aswell retire.

The god time for ws flap is over the top 31'5 i think.My flap should at least be titan.

Yeah it was , since they have gone i think that flap should be brought down a bit.Its far to hard i think.

That's not the point as that applies to the other courses also. The standards for each course should have equivalent numbers of players for each ie. 1 or 2 gods, 5-10 titans etc.

Well, MK64 standards have a long history. Basically, those ranks and standards were constantly evolving throught the years.


In the earliest months, people just played for WRs and for a pointscale ranking system. After a few months, Kevin Booth created a site with player profiles. He gave all players a skill rank from newbie, beginner, etc. up to the highest possible rank in the game: "Elite". No subdivisions A-F yet, no standard times yet. Kevin just promoted you to a new rank, when he felt you needed the skill level required for it.

After about 10 months, around 6 players reached that Elite status. Then it appeared Elite wasn't hard enough anymore, since people were becoming faster and faster. So, Kevin created a new rank: "King".
Then more things happened:
- Subranks from A to F were added
- 2 sets of standard times were created: a list of Elite times (only Elite F), and a list of King times (only King F). If you beat more than 50% of the standards, you're eligible for that ranking promotion.
- A perfect GOD rank was created and put before the King A ranks.

In the next 12 months, people kept gradually improving their times. After reaching King A they kept getting faster. So, a new rank was created between King and GOD: Legend.

After that many things happened:
- Standards for GOD, Legend A,B,C,D,F, King-A,B,C,D,F were created.
- Standards were made faster because GOD times were being beaten. This change caused people to go down in rank.
- A new standard-based ranking system was invented for non-shortcut/shortcut combined: the LKRC system.
- Standard times were created for all other ranks below King.
- Standards were made faster again because GOD times were too easy, causing people to go down in rank again.
- The current ARR system was created, and the LKRC system was discarded.
- Standards were adjusted again, because GOD was too easy. And the ranks got messed up a 3rd time. After this we decided that we'd never change standards anymore.
- After a few years, many people got stuck on the Legend A rank, but failed to reach the GOD rank. The GOD requirement of ARR=0.000 seemed too hard.
- Most GOD standards got completely crushed by several players, but some standards turned out to be too fast.
- An extra Legend+ rank was created because some people had beaten so many GOD standards, and were obviously better than Legend A rank, yet they couldn't get promoted to GOD yet, because they couldn't beat those last GOD standards that were too fast.
- After about 6 years, also the final GOD standards were beaten, and 3 people reached GOD rank in non-shortcut.