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LR 1'58"14 is a fact (Read 984 times)
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Reply #25 - 06/12/03 at 05:15:10
 
things necessary to have something named after you

-significant improvement of an exisiting method (ie something which will save a considerable amount of time over the existing method). Tran-style saves like .5 per lap on RRo, MyleStyle is about 4 seconds faster than the normal LR SC. Another issue is, if it's the first SC found on a track, then the name defaults to ThatTrackName SC not whatever-style. In order to get something like MyleStyle you have to improve on an existing SC.

-you must be THE FIRST person to try it and actually do it. For example, David Wonn first did the Choco Mountain Dual-SC in GP back in 1997 and then tried it back in time trials with no success. Alex Penev was the first to do it successfully in time trials, hitting it in the past year. Now if this new method were to have a name it would go to Wonn, not Penev, because Wonn was the first to try it.

-the name must be given to the method by somebody other than yourself. otherwise every technique/strat today would be named after somebody (assuming everyone has huge egos like Everett Wink )

those aren't official rules btw, those are just some good rules of thumb that i'd consider appropriate...
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It goes (from hardest to easiest): NTSC -> Gallo NTSC -> Australian PAL -> English/Irish PAL -> Dutch PAL. Everyone knows that.
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Reply #26 - 06/12/03 at 12:41:45
 
Hehehe...

Oh, yes, I also often call it "Wonn's SC", since he found all 7 or 8 (or is it 90 or1000) SCs in CM. It's a shame you let Louis have your NTSC WR there, Mark.
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Reply #27 - 06/12/03 at 15:29:11
 
Well well well!  Jones, it seems you take what I'm saying seriously.....hope not since a lot of what I say is a joke (except the stats)....you seriously think I was gonna say Everettunnel?  That was supposed to be kinda funny
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Reply #28 - 06/12/03 at 17:50:14
 
so are you joking every time you say "Everretstart" then? because i never got that impression, and you didn't say anything in your post to indicate that you were joking

usually you signify the fact that your joking with a 'hehe' or a 'Wink'... something to clue us in on what your trying to imply

because as you might know, connotation is not easily derived in textual representations of language
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Reply #29 - 06/12/03 at 19:18:41
 
"connotation is not easily derived in textual representations of language". I'm dying to be told in what way language exists outside its "textual representations"!
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Reply #30 - 06/12/03 at 19:24:24
 
ummm.... verbal?  Shocked
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Reply #31 - 06/12/03 at 22:54:01
 
once you open your mouth and say "ummm", you produce what linguists call a"text". WinkBut what you meant is of course right; that written texts lack contextual elements that are helpful to catch connotations in oral language. Thus it's not a bad idea to use the smileys when posting short messages here, as you say. Cheesy
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Reply #32 - 06/13/03 at 05:38:31
 
Way To Go, Finn!  Not many can slam Jones like that.  Smiley
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Reply #33 - 06/13/03 at 07:47:03
 
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Way To Go, Finn!  Not many can slam Jones like that.


well it's not really a "slam" Booth... you have to remember we're talking different continents here. I'm no cunning linguist myself Wink Wink but I typically reserve the term "textual" for written/typed expressions of language. Finn might be right, but what I meant in my original post to Tim is that connotation is not easily derived from typed texts (hence the usage of emoticons). I think everyone but Finn knew what I meant (maybe) in my original post. But then again I never did like english/grammar/verbal studies... I was always a Math/Science/Logic type of guy so regardless of what I said and how it was interpreted it's what I meant that counts... right Tim? hehehehe
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Reply #34 - 06/13/03 at 08:28:38
 
Yes, my school record shows that I wasn't much into those either, however it probably would help me to learn, considering the position I'm at.

Cunning Linquist huh?  Yes, I never mistaked you for one of those, or um ya, that other term Smiley
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Reply #35 - 06/13/03 at 11:43:04
 
"I think everyone but Finn knew" ???  ???
Hey, Jones! I'm not that stupid.  8) I just felt the need to stand up for a persecuted minority (i.e. Tim) beeing abused through unqualified use of scientific terms. And if logic is one of your preferred fields, then you should be familiar with terms like these. Shame on you!  Angry

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Reply #36 - 06/13/03 at 12:40:53
 
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And if logic is one of your preferred fields, then you should be familiar with terms like these. Shame on you!  


nope but i'm familiar with terms like "idempotence", "DeMorgans" and "false positives" 8)
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Reply #37 - 06/14/03 at 12:54:20
 
and that can only be a good thing to be
    In order to get anywhere in a discussion there has to be an agreement on basic values. I notice that you flag beer as a basic value, and I suggest that we try to establish that as common ground rather than logic. Beer often make more sense than logic, litterally speaking at least. Let us then make it clear that these truths are self-evident:
1. Beer is a nobler drink than wine
2. The best beer in the world is made in the Czech Republic
    In order to verify this we need a Czech karter.  Do we have any Czech karters here?
    I said: DO WE HAVE ANY CZECH KARTERS HERE???


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Reply #38 - 06/15/03 at 09:51:43
 
ok ok ok... we need to have a strong word about some of the bold statements being made there!

By beer i presume you mean Lager? not Bitter or Ale?

(if we're talking anything technical)

1: Beer is more noble than wine?
hmm... tough call, the drinker or the act?

2: Sooo can't be right.. Staropramen is the nicest czech lager i've tasted of about 30. Ive sold over 14k pints of the stuff so can say it's pretty damn nice but it's no way the nicest lager. I'd put Stella Artois up there.

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Reply #39 - 06/15/03 at 15:21:24
 
Damn Czechs.

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Reply #40 - 06/16/03 at 02:17:54
 
Hollands also own when it comes to brewing beer... Just Heineken and Brand Beer, there's nothing better.

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Reply #41 - 06/16/03 at 05:26:31
 
1.OK, lets stick to lager, then - though the Czechs produce other sorts. Plenty of tasty dark beer (tmale) - which they often mix with light (svetle).
2. Staropramen is great, and it's the Praguer beer. Go there and have it in one of the good old taverns with wooden tables and benches. But there are others; the original pilsener; Urquell, and not to forget Budvar, which in German is Budweisser. It has absolutely nothing in common with the American "beer" that also carries that name - it's more than the Atlantic ocean that separates the two.
3. I'm not sure wether what you get outside CR is the same they sell at home. What is certain, is that the real stuff is packed with a real, solid taste of hops. It's not "feminized" (sorry, girls), i.e. mildened/softened to suit the gentler palates, like other industrialized beers.
(Heineken, Carlsberg, Stella Artois and all the "big" brands.)
4. The best beer never comes from the big breeweries. But that's an other discussion.
5. As to nobility: That has to do with tadition and lineage. Beer is older, quite simply. The point in saying this is of course that "wine lovers" tend to look down on beer drinkers. But there is a world of beers just as exciting as the wine world. (And then there is the social dimension, of course.)
6. Where are the Czech karters? I sincerely would very much like to see some Czech karters around. (I don't think MFJ is doing a particularly great job attracting those. He might by the way consider that they are NATO allies, and should not be alienated in this fashion.  Grin)
7. 14k pints of Staropramen!! I'm amazed. How does it feel to be doing so much good to mankind? 
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Reply #42 - 06/16/03 at 12:54:39
 
hmm.. just got in from work... selling some more staro tonite! lol...

umm.. i was talking about it with my manager today and we're going for belgium.. more thougts when i'm more sober

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