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LR 1'58"14 is a fact
06/03/03 at 03:09:57
 
Been a long time since i posted something on the board.
the reason is that im living on my own now, I don't have the money yet to buy my own computer.
But i hope soon.

I'm now at Lars nouwen's place.
We have improved the KD flap strat a bit and we are both seeing a time of 39"30 now here.Lars is trying to get that now. he just raced a PR there: 39"60 but it wasn't a very good run he said.

now about my LR time.
I haven't played nintendo for ages but Lars got me into it again. he came over and I was glad i had still some MK64 skills left.when he left i tried SL 3lap for ages, got some good laps (38"51 1shroomer was my best).
couldn't get a good 3lap down. THe got a blister on my thumb so had to quit playing.week later tried some more SL but nothing. SO to LR for some warming up.
I noticed how easy i drove good laps here.
I played all night, finally 11 AM i drove that insane record.

it was driven 0-2-1 strat.
I think sub 1'58 is possible but freaking hard.
as MIchael Liem said there is no reason for me to lie about times.to tell u the truth I don't give much about MK64 and worldrecords anymore.but when i played with Lars all the MK64 excitement came back to me and i wanted to drive one last freaking WR.all that time i was thinking i'd nail it on SL 3lap.I used to drive way more consistent.nowadays it takes me like 12 hours to drive a PR.I think that was also the reason for me to quit playing MK64.but as BOoth once said.No one can retire MK64. they keep coming back and he is rightSmiley

If u have any questions on how I drove LR 3lap just ask lars. I was driven like my old WR 1'58"65 but with less mistakes,better glides and shorter slides.

Lars has to go now so i stop typing now.

later all,
Steven ZWartjes
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Reply #1 - 06/03/03 at 10:52:10
 
Well, thanks for coming and telling us.  I've never met you so I can't tell if you're an impostor, but it sounds like the respectable Zwartjes we've heard about.
Back when I had, uh.... (calculator) 2:01.18 I could spot a decent amount of mistakes in that 1:58.65 and theorized that it's possible to go clear under 1:58.

Retire from Mario Kart?  I suppose you can only take breaks.  I'm never going to retire, I might "stop" and come back or not, but no such thing as permanent quits.

Well, two questions:
1. Do you MT inside the tunnel?
2. Do you use Everettstart?
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Reply #2 - 06/03/03 at 12:19:55
 
as steven said, ask lars... Smiley

1 he has the same strat and the same number of MT's... so watch his 1'58''6. It includes a MT when getting into the tunnel, bounces the wall and one when leaving the tunnel, so no, no MT inside...
2 what's an Everettstart...? I know the term, I know it's fast, but I don't know the strat. And steven is doing the same as I do, so I don't think he's secretly playing with everettstrats... Wink Does it save much?

As Steven said, we improved the KD flap strat a bit... Even I can go for the WR now (well, don't expect me to dot it, but with a very great run it's possible). After we came to the conclusion that our strat was faster then the old one (the strat Penev's using in his former WR movie of 39''43 (PAL)) we went for a ghost and in third try or so I got that 39''60... New GOD for me! It was a nice race, but not special and far from being maxed with my skills... It's taped and I will try to get the vid online tomorrow... if you want to have it, contact me on lassietoverrijst@hotmail.com (MSN)

Cheers,

Lars Smiley
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Reply #3 - 06/03/03 at 13:44:47
 
http://www31.brinkster.com/theredrock/mk64/
click on "strats" at the top, then scroll down and click "everettstart"

According to my tests, an SSMT inside the tunnel is faster than sticking to the wall.  I ahven't passed my ghost yet using that, but it's because I onyl do it when I'm way behind.  I do catch up though.
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Reply #4 - 06/03/03 at 14:04:31
 
lol tim, doesn't matter if he used everettstart or not.  1'38"25 and 1'38"26, when compared to 1"38"65 especially, are both equally ridiculous.

about the ssmt in the tunnel, i dunno, i've never tried it...seems rushed, but might be faster.

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Reply #5 - 06/04/03 at 10:27:21
 
The only way I've gotten it to go faster is to sorta slam into the wall, but I'm sure if you angle towrad the corner instead, it's faster- an Elite A person would probably have trouble with this.  You begin the next MT a little later because you can RIDE THE GLIDE a bit.
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Reply #6 - 06/04/03 at 13:48:57
 
stop stealing my catch phrases!  8)

SSMTing in the tunnel probably isn't faster, since the beginning of the tunnel is downhill and your speed increases due to the decline and through the bottom of the dip and as you start coming up and out of the tunnel you are preparing your exit MT anyway... my advice stick as close to the wall as possible. Until you get stuck in the low 1'38"s and can't seem to improve I wouldn't suggest messing with a different strat Wink
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Reply #7 - 06/05/03 at 12:30:22
 
"ride the glide" was one of your catch phrases? Wink

From what I've seen you can catch up and don't lose ground from the next MT.  It's because the SSMT gives you speed going uphill, I can actually feel and hear(kart pitch) the difference

I'll try tomorrow to verify it.

Edit: About sticking to the wall, there seem to be several places where it doesn't seem to be faster.  at the end of FS, I tried driving straight close to the edge, and my ghost with a right-facing SSMT just BLEW past me.
I'm not sure about MR at the end too, an SSMT could be faster but it doesn't seem to from what I've seen (and my sloppy MTs)
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Reply #8 - 06/06/03 at 07:21:27
 
Just got back online after a week spent with my internetless family. Smiley Been catching up on all the posts here. So 1'58"14 is true..wow. I might test out that SSMT in the tunnel thing...I think I tried it before and it just wouldn't work well for me. I'll look up my NoMt guys time for MR tonight. What else..hmm....glad to see Bowser got a WR....I'll try get him a NonSc Legend time.
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Reply #9 - 06/08/03 at 06:41:51
 
I did the SSMT in the tunnel
At my level I probably didn't do it that well, but the tiny lead my ghost had on me became tinier when I did the best of mine.
So for the time being, at a 1:39.90/2:00.00 level, a well-done tunnel SSMT is worth 0.01-0.03

I don't like billing terms after names, but if you guys are grateful enough you can call it Everettunnel.....I'm up for "SSMT in LR tunnel" instead though

You have to do the slide downhill and release the MT to go uphill.  Maybe in a week or two I'll have it on vid.
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Reply #10 - 06/08/03 at 10:45:25
 
Quote:
I don't like billing terms after names, but if you guys are grateful enough you can call it Everettunnel.....


hahahahahahahahaha

you actually think you are the first person to suggest this... rofl... you better check your head before it gets to big and explodes

this idea has been around for as long as I've been a part of the community (2001) because I asked Booth why he didn't do one in the tunnel like the 2nd day I joined after watching his LR vid. and his response was because the general consensus was that doing an SSMT in the tunnel would not save you any time (and hadn't for those who had tried it to that time). So if I hear you or anyone refer to doing an SSMT in the tunnel as "Everettunnel" I'm seriously gonna ban their IP from this messageboard. Wink
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Reply #11 - 06/09/03 at 00:32:49
 
haha... it's true, anyone who hadn't thought of that on their first time watching a flawless LR run should be shot! it's crosses your mind but putting it into action is a different thing~

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Reply #12 - 06/09/03 at 03:12:14
 
Actually I thought of the tunnel SSMT long ago but assumed that others already tried it and couldn't get it to work which was why it's not on the vids.  The matter is getting it to work that counts, and I think it can work.
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Reply #13 - 06/09/03 at 04:17:51
 
well Tim, you go ahead and get the WR SSMTing in the tunnel and then perhaps we'll start calling it Everettunnel Roll Eyes
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Reply #14 - 06/09/03 at 04:23:18
 
lol, yeah, i think it's probably faster do but you'd have to alter the knock-on effects of the ssmts/mt's before and after it! all the way forwards and back.

i still think right of the ramps on KTB is faster.. but i'm not at a WR pace to prove it.

conclusion: thinking means shit unless you can prove it.

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Reply #15 - 06/09/03 at 11:28:04
 
About KTB, I was frustrated once and went up on the ramps and appeared to gain on my ghost until reaching the cave.  Obviously on the ramps is slower, but I'll have to give the right side a try.  If you can go 1:20.2 doing that you'll probably cause a ripple on the community.
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Reply #16 - 06/10/03 at 00:34:40
 
well i'm not sure what my time is there anymore but i know it's quicker for me and sets me up nicer for my ssmt's and mt's. i did have a vhs of it, but it's back in london somewhere if anywhere, might knock up a vid over the summer

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Reply #17 - 06/10/03 at 02:10:44
 
Do you do an MT up/in the tunnel?  If so, which way does it face?
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Reply #18 - 06/10/03 at 02:28:32
 
i do a right facing mt at the foot of the ramp and then i "swing" the kart to face the left and then i mt out of the cave, sami's seen it in action but can't get it to work properly cause he's not really practiced it.

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Reply #19 - 06/11/03 at 00:46:49
 
wow, now we have an Everetttunnel and a Gaffikintunnel!!!

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Reply #20 - 06/11/03 at 05:49:45
 
lol

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Reply #21 - 06/11/03 at 08:56:49
 
Yuh-oh, Jones, you gotta delete Lars!? Cheesy
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Reply #22 - 06/12/03 at 01:40:04
 
Why do you want to name everything it's just a SSMT in a tunnel it's not anything special. Otherwise most shortcut would be call Wonnjump or Wonnwarp.
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Reply #23 - 06/12/03 at 05:01:21
 
I'm really good at hitting the palm trees outside the tunnel in KTB. Embarrassed So I've started thinking about them as Norwegian Wood. Wink (Anyone still listening to the Beatles out there?)
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Reply #24 - 06/12/03 at 05:02:10
 
i dont really wanna name anything to be honest..

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