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Re: Three Stars
Reply #125 - 07/10/06 at 12:20:01

It depends... At Extra-Mushroom 150cc for example, I already reached a *** with only 36 coins ! But for Extra-Lightning 150cc, you'll have all my praises if you reached *** with less than 100 coins. It's a challenge honestly. Wink

I did that once in my life, it's really hard. Tongue

You'll have more chances to have *** if you collect at least 140 coins.

Items don't matter, that's sure.

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Re: Three Stars
Reply #127 - 07/11/06 at 17:55:20

Alicia Kart wrote on 07/10/06 at 12:20:01:

It depends... At Extra-Mushroom 150cc for example, I already reached a *** with only 36 coins ! But for Extra-Lightning 150cc, you'll have all my praises if you reached *** with less than 100 coins. It's a challenge honestly. Wink

I did that once in my life, it's really hard. Tongue

You'll have more chances to have *** if you collect at least 140 coins.

Items don't matter, that's sure.

Coins don't mater.

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Re: Three Stars
Reply #128 - 07/11/06 at 21:26:25

These are my results so far. Most of the time I don't finish the cup because I'll make a big mistake and quit and return to BC2. I quit and restart on BC2 a lot because on lap 4 I have a hard time avoiding the other racers and when I crash into them or they crash into me it makes me hit a wall and come to a stop. If I hit a wall or driver without losing much speed I'll continue. If I fall in the lava I'll quit. In MC3 I often restart because I don't get the mini turbo and end up driving over the sand slowly. When I approach the hairpin I drive to the right side of the road and touch the sand before beginning the turn which allows me to get around the hairpin without brakes or letting off the gas. I don't get a mini turno from this though. I don't use any items in BC2 or KB1. I use stars and mushrooms sometimes in MC3 if I get them before shells or bananas which I need to block the red shells that are almost always shot at me. I can't outrun them. I use items for the same reason in CI2.

131 2 stars
BC2 1'33'43 32
MC3 1'24'81 41
KB1 0'52'25 35
CI2 1'06'15 23

120 2 stars
BC2 1'32'88 32
MC3 1'23'11 29
Kb1 0'56'26 40
CI2 1'07'26 19

112 2 stars
BC2 1'32'85 32
MC3 1'26'41 31
KB1 0'52'00 29
Ci2 1'11'13 20

116 2 stars
BC2 1'32'76 38
MC3 1'26'81 27
Kb1 0'53'76 31
Ci2 1'02'75 20

112 2 stars
BC2 1'32'46 31
MC3 1'26'25 20
Kb1 0'52'73 38
CI2 1'05'76 23

123 2 stars
BC2 1'30'61 36
MC3 1'23'41 27
Kb1 0'53'50 38
CI2 1'05'30 22

137 2 stars
BC2 1'31'85 43
MC3 1'24'85 32
Kb1 0'53'85 33
Ci2 1'06'25 29

118 2 stars
BC2 1'32'33 37
MC3 1'23'56 30
Kb1 0'53'28 33
Ci2 1'07'51 18

128 2 stars
BC2 1'30'38 36
MC3 1'24'85 26
Kb1 0'53'03 39
Ci2 1'06'03 27

118 2 stars
BC2 1'31'26 32
MC3 1'24'15 33
Kb1 0'56'05 26
Ci2 1'05'45 27

114 2 stars
BC2 1'32'83 38
MC3 1'24'38 24
Kb1 0'53'51 30
CI2 1'04'11 22

132 2 stars
BC2 1'32'21 39
MC3 1'23'28 31
Kb1 0'53'11 36
Ci2 1'07'45 26

129 2 stars
BC2 1'30'13 41
MC3 1'24'63 32
Kb1 0'51'98 32
CI2 1'03'91 24

118 2 stars
BC2 1'33'00 33
MC3 1'23'45 35
KB1 0'52'76 35
Ci2 1'11'78 15

132 2 stars
NC2 1'32'66 44
MC3 1'23'05 33
Kb1 0'55'48 31
CI2 1'03'96 24

127 2 stars
BC2 1'32'95 42
MC3 1'22'28 34
Kb1 0'52'80 21
CI2 1'06'45 20

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In hiding Ex Member	Re: Three Stars Reply #129 - 07/12/06 at 02:31:45 Anyone got an email address for nintendo?
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Alicia Kart Legend Offline Retired. 7972 days karting Paris (France) Gender:	Re: Three Stars Reply #130 - 07/12/06 at 03:53:33 Magiwand wrote on 07/11/06 at 17:55:20: Coins don't mater. -Brent Coins matter at Extra-Lightning 150cc. Maybe also at Extra-Star 150cc and at Extra-Special 150cc but I'm not sure here. But for Extra-Lightning it's 100% sure and proved ! I'll pay 100 000 $ if someone does *** at Extra-Lightning 150cc with less than 40 coins !
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Re: Three Stars
Reply #131 - 07/12/06 at 04:11:04

Alicia Kart wrote on 07/12/06 at 03:53:33:

I'll pay 100 000 $ if someone does *** at Extra-Lightning 150cc with less than 40 coins ! Wink

We could test that using an emulator and using the best possible strats (with ticking and SC).
I would do that, but i dont know anything about Extra Lightning tracks.

edit: lol... even with the emulator and using ticking two times i can't get a decent time in that race... 1'32"66 on BC2 (8 coins).
I dunno if i will continue the experiment, but i've the savestate

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Re: Three Stars
Reply #132 - 07/15/06 at 00:49:55

I can hardly believe it but I finally got 3 stars on Extra Lightning Cup 150cc! The usual final lap ghost got me on BC2. I didn't use any mushrooms or stars, just held shells for protection on MC3 and CI2. I didn't get too many coins either, only 118! These were my times:

118 3 stars
BC2 1'31'40 39
MC3 1'20'93 23
KB1 0'52'20 40
CI2 1'05'00 16

Now I just need Extra Special Cup 50cc, 100cc, 150cc.

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Re: Three Stars
Reply #133 - 07/15/06 at 05:51:07

Gregory_dEon wrote on 07/11/06 at 03:13:09:

*lightbulb appears above head* I've got it!

It's possible that it's just the total times of all the courses in the cup. I think that's it!

In MKDS, we know this isn't true, though it's a really attractive hypothesis (i.e., very simple and straightforward). But comparing times between people with 1-, 2- and 3-stars revealed that it was not a simple correlation with time. For example, some folks with HIGHER times would have 3-stars, while folks with LOWER times would have 2-stars.

Can't speak for MKSC though Undecided

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chikoritachu n00b Offline I Love YaBB 2! worships 6987 kartgods	Re: Three Stars Reply #134 - 07/15/06 at 21:20:20 I got a 3 star rank the first time I completed Extra Special Cup 50cc. Although I did quit and restart at KB2 a number of times. I didn't use any items. I got hit by two ghosts on RR. These were my times: 93 coins 3 stars KB2 1'09'51 36 GV3 1'37'55 25 VL2 1'02'18 17 RR 1'49'00 15
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Re: Three Stars
Reply #135 - 07/15/06 at 22:07:31

Frances_Penfold wrote on 07/15/06 at 05:51:07:

Gregory_dEon wrote on 07/11/06 at 03:13:09:

*lightbulb appears above head* I've got it!

It's possible that it's just the total times of all the courses in the cup. I think that's it!

In MKDS, we know this isn't true, though it's a really attractive hypothesis (i.e., very simple and straightforward). But comparing times between people with 1-, 2- and 3-stars revealed that it was not a simple correlation with time. For example, some folks with HIGHER times would have 3-stars, while folks with LOWER times would have 2-stars.

Can't speak for MKSC though Undecided

I think that's how it's done, except, you need to beat a certain time for every race. I'm pretty sure for Mirror Mode Flower Cup, for example, you have to get under 2'00 on Delfino Square.

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chikoritachu n00b Offline I Love YaBB 2! worships 6987 kartgods	Re: Three Stars Reply #136 - 07/16/06 at 00:15:21 I just got 3 stars on Extra Special Cup 100cc. I only used a ghost on RR when a red shell was behind me. 87 coins KB2 1'02'45 30 GV3 1'27'30 24 VL2 0'55'06 14 RR 1'33'51 19
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chikoritachu n00b Offline I Love YaBB 2! fell 6987 times for marty	Re: Three Stars Reply #137 - 07/16/06 at 02:38:51 I got a 3 star rank in Extra Specal Cup 150cc! I didn't use any items, but I fell off the track in RR. Extra Special Cup was much easier than I expected; nothing like Extra Lightning Cup. Now I've finally got 30/30 3 star ranks! 85 coins KB2 0'56'63 27 GV3 1'17'90 18 VL2 0'52'58 22 RR 1'24'95 18
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Re: Three Stars
Reply #138 - 07/16/06 at 04:15:01

COINS DO MATTER!

Extra Lightning Cup 150cc (done on emulator):
RBC2 1'32"66 8 coins
RMC3 1'21"16 8 coins
RKB1 41"93 4 coins
RCI2 1'02"60 4 coins

total 24 coins (lol)
Rank B!

Compare to chikoritachu's three stars:
BC2 1'31'40 39 -1"20 +32 coins
MC3 1'20'93 23 -0"23 +15 coins
KB1 0'52'20 40 +10"27 +36 coins
CI2 1'05'00 16 +2"40 +12 coins

I could even do some further test, like redo only the last track getting a lot of coins and finishing it in about the same time.
mhhhh....
CI2 1'06"81 32 coins--> B rank Undecided

CI2 1'00"10 17 coins --> B rank

It's seems that the B rank is fixed...

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Re: Three Stars
Reply #139 - 07/16/06 at 11:30:03

Hey, I practiced Extra-Lightning 150cc so much, I know that coins do matter here ! Grin

Weirdly, coins don't matter everywhere (like my example with Extra-Mushroom 150cc : *** with only 36 coins)...

And I have to congratulate Chikoritachu ; I knew that you wouldn't have a lot of difficulties to *** Extra-Special Cups, after your madness result at Extra-Lightning 150cc ! Shocked

It's the most difficult Cup, you cleared it, so you could clear all other Cups ! Wink

Impressive btw, that you do *** with only 16 coins at CI2 ! Shocked

Dunno what's your motivation now, but I'm looking forward to you, if you'll try to reach *** at Extra-Lightning 150cc with less than 100 coins... Lips Sealed

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In hiding Ex Member	Re: Three Stars Reply #140 - 07/17/06 at 02:42:10 FYI i've emailed nintendo of america
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Frances_Penfold King Offline Woof! seen 6890 mj vids Gender:	Re: Three Stars Reply #141 - 07/17/06 at 09:22:02 In hiding wrote on 07/17/06 at 02:42:10: FYI i've emailed nintendo of america To ask about the criteria for determining rank? While you are at it, ask about MKDS too. It's a great idea, but I'm doubting the answer is gonna be revealed by NOA, they probably don't even know.
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In hiding Ex Member	Re: Three Stars Reply #142 - 07/18/06 at 08:08:48 NOA wankers sent me an automated email - basically can't answer so asked me to joing the mb - oh but i can't - because i'm not a resident of the US or canada. Cunts.
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Re: Three Stars
Reply #143 - 07/18/06 at 09:21:13

In hiding wrote on 07/18/06 at 08:08:48:

NOA wankers sent me an automated email - basically can't answer so asked me to joing the mb - oh but i can't - because i'm not a resident of the US or canada. Cunts.

I've generally been really impressed with NOA in terms of customer service. However, let's face it-- they are just a shell for funneling EAD products into North America. They are mostly lawyers, and marketers... with the exception of NST, of course, but that's a small part of the pie. So it seems very, very unlikely that they would know the answer to your question, or know how to answer it.

Some folks here are Nsiders, maybe they can raise the question on an appropriate forum. I'm not expecting much of an answer though, mostly really young n00bs over there.

What would be nice is some sort of direct line to IS or EAD to get some headway dealing with these kinds of issues in the older software. I mean, come on... it's not like these should be proprietary secrets some 5+ years after the software was originally released.

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Re: Three Stars
Reply #144 - 07/18/06 at 09:46:04

In hiding wrote on 07/18/06 at 08:08:48:

NOA wankers sent me an automated email - basically can't answer so asked me to joing the mb - oh but i can't - because i'm not a resident of the US or canada. Cunts.

I'm a resident of Canada, I'll try...

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4. What are the coins on the track for?
The more coins you have, the faster you go. Also they help with your ranking.

Taken from the site: http://www.nintendo.com/gamefaqgallery?gameid=m-Game-0000-331
I can't find any other help, I'll keep looking.

EDIT 2: Keep an eye on this: http://forums.nintendo.com/nintendo/board/message?board.id=mario&message.id=1...

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Re: Three Stars
Reply #145 - 07/18/06 at 14:54:40

After i spoke to NOA via automated email I called nintendo of europe on a phone - seemingly nice guy seemed to give me the answer that "by compeleting the races quicker would help my chances of 3 stars"..

I sighed

I then asked for specifics and he basically said to me this as fact:

I/we need to contact the programmers to find out this information

There are two ways of doing this:

1) Get in touch with Nintendo of Japan (who made this and also mkds - who btw want to know the specifics for those stars).
In doing so we should pressure to get in touch with one of the programmers of the game since they are about the only people who would know the specifics of how to get 3 stars.

2) I asked if it would help to get the names of the programmers - he said probably - so we need to note down all of the people in the credits for MKSC on completion.

We agreed it might be an idea to google them for an email address to see if they have one in the public domain. That way we could contact them directly. Apparently alot of Japanese programmers have web blogs.

3) You could send an email template to nameof.programmer@nintendo.jp (or whatever the standard end of jp domain is and spam it to see with a realistic subject - mksc).

Either way - i've done all i can at 0.75p a minute, basically now need a JPN speaker who's prepared to spend a couple of quid to do some intelligent research.

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Gregory dEon King Offline Thou shall refer to Mario Kart as life. 6805 days karting Gender:	Re: Three Stars Reply #146 - 07/30/06 at 11:02:36 I tried a few *s. I suck, so don't laugh, but so far: 2/30. For some reason, I can't get Mushroom Cup , but I got Flower and Lightning Cups... My latest idea for getting 3 stars is: drumroll* How much you win by. Yeah, its probably not true, but still.
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In Hiding - Tom Gaffikin Ex Member	Re: Three Stars Reply #147 - 07/31/06 at 00:28:39 i've considered that but its not, i've had some slim wins and got 3*s
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davincentcode King Offline Kart, Fart, Superstart helped 7663 people Den Helder/ The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Three Stars Reply #148 - 07/31/06 at 00:35:30 When I deleted all my records for being able to focus on Non-shortcut, my record was 28/30.. I only needed Extra lightening and Special Cup.. But since I wasn't that good back then, I might be able to push it to 30/30
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Floan Karter Offline hit 6790 moles France Gender:	Re: Three Stars Reply #149 - 08/02/06 at 12:34:54 moi je viens de m'y metre d'abord j'ai essayer 2 100cc gba 2150cc gba et 1 150cc smk j'y arrive du 1er coup j'en essaye 2 gba 50cc rank ** je n'arrive pas le 50cc c'est trop lent :'( trop facile pour que j'y arrive
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