Well, I was just playing some MKSC tonight, focused on SL. Ive changed a lot my way to slide through snow, since thats really what matters(well, in non-tree-tricking-driving at least) and got 1'09"05/21"10 cutting pretty much every corners where there is snow on the inside.

I was just wondering if anyone remembers how looked the WR back in 2001/begining 2002 before tree-tricking discovery or well, if you know just how look the best times without it?... I remember back in early 2002 I think, or maybe late 2001, the japanese had this WR in the high 1'09s and people were really amazed or just barely believed it...

Tree-tricking is faster in SL, thats for sure. Im just wondering what are the best times without it... No big deal anyway if nobody remembers, I have my own idea on what would be the courses' limits with only sliding through snow and no tree-tricking.

tiles and snowmen

I'd like to put my own opinion forward here:
I saw the video of the Japanese WR (1'01"30, OMG that is crazy! And with Toad!), and most of the object-tricking (I now refuse to call it tree-tricking, as it has evolved from just that) was actually off walls.
That was also the way I did it (I tried to emulate the Japanese run. Silly me ), and it netted me a 1'04"xx.