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https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Mario Kart >> Super Mario Kart >> Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1530111808 Message started by RVZ on 06/27/18 at 07:03:28 |
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Title: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by RVZ on 06/27/18 at 07:03:28 If these 3 tracks aint the most un natural kart tracks of all series I dont know which are. Every corner is dogshite. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by eoJ on 06/27/18 at 10:29:08 I hate the Vanilla Lakes way more. VL2 is a garbage track with garbage physics and garbage driving lines. And yeah, go ahead and put ice blocks on an already difficult VL1 just to screw over everyone... [smiley=chairshot.gif] |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Danger M on 06/27/18 at 11:14:08 DP2 is one of the best flowing tracks in all of mk. Every corner seems perfectly set up for time trials. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by MKDSLeone on 06/27/18 at 14:36:44 dp4 is my favorite mk track just better than dp5 fuck dp6 tho |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Sami de la SMK on 06/27/18 at 17:12:37 4E696E74656E6A6F506F776572000 wrote:
It was a garbage track in the 90s, but we tamed this beast. Have patience, and it will work really well in time once you practice it. It is not something you can learn in a few sessions as there is a learning curve. But the driving mechanics fit very perfectly once mastered. As for the DPs, they are also fine, do you have any videos RVZ? We can help suggest for you. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by アメリカのニコラス・ハｰヴィ on 06/27/18 at 18:12:41 My best advice for RVZ is, quite plainly, to get better at SMK. Each and every track in SMK can be driven at or near Bowser's top speed all the way through-- even without NBT, on both NTSC and PAL-- with the possible exception of KB2. CI2 and KB1 are possible but much more difficult, though easier with NBT; you'll certainly need skill, yes, to do the VLs this way. If you're a neophyte, which I assume you are, then yes, the VLs will give you some trouble. One useful tip I can give you for VL1 is to race against a CPU-controlled ghost who can clear out some ice blocks for you. But since this ghost is much slower than you, you will still have to deal with the ice blocks in lap 1, and you can clear out a couple to make it easier to do the snowslides. Press R to jump as you hit an ice block (or any other solid obstacle in SMK) to minimize speed loss. On PAL your first lap may be as slow as 13 seconds, but the rest of your laps can be 10"xx, allowing you to sail past the 1'00" barrier. The best players don't have to break any ice blocks, squeezing between them during the snowslide on every lap in order to save more than a second on the first lap by not breaking them-- but you're probably not one of them, if I'm not. 8-) VL2 is definitely a track for advanced drivers-- it's in the Special Cup for good reason. If you can handle Bowser well, I'd recommend watching Leyla Hasso's 53"31 run. I used this as the basis for my own route on VL2 PAL, and it's a lot of fun to make all those jumps, but you have to be careful especially during the thread-the-needle part halfway through each lap (I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about). This will test your nerves, so don't get antsy in the final lap! You may not even come close to Leyla's PR (especially her current one) but just breaking the 1'00" barrier is a very good target for an intermediate-level player and will reward you with a pretty good rank, as a lot of players aren't good at VL2 (or VL1). DP1 and DP2's long curves seem to be made for NTSC physics, but even on PAL it's quite possible to drift around the big 180s and come out with boosts by adjusting your drifting line-- start the drift a little later or a little farther out than you would on NTSC. DP3 is tricky after the broken bridge. On NTSC you can get away with bouncing off the water to take a tighter line since you'll lose less speed than on PAL, but on PAL, you need to stay on the track, which requires a bit of tricky maneuvering on the left 180 immediately after the bridge, the zig zag part afterward, and then the right 180. Careful not to hit that wall (or the moles) on that right 180-- it's definitely the hardest part of the race for me. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Antistar on 06/28/18 at 00:30:18 0E292E34252E2A2F102F372532400 wrote:
I'm happy your KC adventure ended. We used to be friends but it's all over now. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Sami de la SMK on 06/28/18 at 01:34:28 4B67746F693E30060 wrote:
I'm happy your KC adventure ended. We used to be friends but it's all over now.[/quote] Don't be upset Guillaume, he just doesn't understand the truth (how great VL2 actually is). Remember the line in Batman Begins "You always fear what you don't understand". Take Battle Mode for example, I think that is Triple Garbage too... However the real truth is that Battle Mode is amazing, and I just don't (and won't) make the effort to understand it and enjoy it fully. It's my problem in the end of the day... :-/ Anyway RVZ let us know how you get on, if we see some vids we can quickly advise what to do. I reckon it is your straightening up of the kart after corners (assuming you are using Bowser / D.K.Jr). |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by KVD on 06/28/18 at 01:54:18 That statement might have been true 8 years ago Sami, but you're now one of the finest battle mode players around. You went toe to toe with both Geo & ScouB at the semi final stage (where it matters!) of CDM last year. I consider Geo & ScouB the best BM players of the moment, though with Neo's latest results I should probably include him in that mention as well. But yeah, you've officially graduated to BM greatness as of last summer. ;) |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Sami de la SMK on 06/28/18 at 02:12:53 456F7C6B620E0 wrote:
And that's the point I am making, how did I suddenly turn it round like that and not get hit and shake the two greatest Battle players of the World with a Rocky 1 style Go-The-Distance match. I can't explain it. Maybe I did ascend suddenly to be amongst the top Battle players finally. I hoped it would stay like that, but I think it varies (see Harold winning Battle Mode not too many years back vs Scoub, then have a look at his Battle result last year for another example). This happened to me before. Everyone forgot a SNESOT Battle Mode Tournament in 2011. After that was over, I continued to playing the way I usually do for years. I don't know what that is, but maybe a "get to quarter finals and that's it at the most". I didn't want to make the effort to appreciate and like the mode. I still don't. But I should do. Maybe it is because there is no timer in it and I just prefer measuring against records and things for targeting. It is a completely different game, but a very clever creation in SMK. Going back to the topic. I remember back in school, and even the casual players today, it was always GV1, GV1 and more GV1, and only GV1. No one liked DP1. So I made a point to learn it and hit good records there. The other tracks followed and later I really enjoyed the challenge of DP3. So do give it all a go. Some tracks become your favorites later. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Antistar on 06/28/18 at 02:50:35 11232F2B420 wrote:
I secretely dreamt about reading this someday. Quote:
And only little Sami was constantly annoying everyone with MC1. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by ScouB on 06/28/18 at 03:32:46 Will Sami take the benefit of Harold and Geo missing this year and win his first ever battle mode medal ? With Gold for the first one (Geo style like in GP) |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by ScouB on 06/28/18 at 03:33:59 1D343E3F34123022253023510 wrote:
Wevalready told you this joke doesn't work here, as dp4,5,6 do exists (dp7,8,9 too actually :)) |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Sami de la SMK on 06/28/18 at 04:29:47 1A36253E386F61570 wrote:
I secretely dreamt about reading this someday. Quote:
And only little Sami was constantly annoying everyone with MC1.[/quote] I hope I could recreate what I did, but only if I can prove it consistently. Not 2011 playing like Geo on SNESOT, then playing my old way for 6-7 years. Then 2018 playing like Geo then going back to old way, then getting a medal in 2025? As for annoying people in MC1, yeh back in the 1990s (1995 / 1996 maybe?) a friend came up to me saying he had a wicked time on MC1 and first asked what mine was. I told him 1'01" and he just said "no you can't do that". I asked what he said he had and it was 1'05". I invited him round and when I did a demo he said "oh I don't do it like that". He did 1'05" without pressing R which is pretty good! Though he did with Koopa / Toad. I recruited him to the site years later and he made a surprise visit to compete at our 2010 UK Championships. Top guy, reminds me I should see how he is doing actually as it has been a long time.. Scoub: No, but now that you mentioned what Geo done, I think there would be more chance in GP, got to love a bit of Grand Pricks (CPU Yoshi :-* ) Then again, no one is touching you or Florent there. As lastly for SPK: I liked DP4 and DP5. DP6 was like DP3 on Steroids. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by KVD on 06/28/18 at 04:35:26 497B77731A0 wrote:
*ahem* [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH4vU3VpH9E[/media] |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Sami de la SMK on 06/28/18 at 04:43:45 1D3724333A560 wrote:
*ahem* [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1063&v=48XBrgxP-2s[/media][/quote] Statistically speaking I think Flo and Scoub will be safe there. Because of 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017. Always go with the odds. Flo vs Scoub Final is always more exciting! I always miss my zoom starts too much except for 2013. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by KVD on 06/28/18 at 04:55:10 73414D49200 wrote:
Just like statistically speaking I will never win the Time Trial gold medal. Just go with the odds. What are the odds actually? ;) Disagree with that last statement, the match I just linked was one of the most exciting finals we've had with a magnificent comeback. Sami vs Neo is the original el classico! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by ScouB on 06/28/18 at 05:46:51 Yeh the original nadal-federer rivalry. I'm just a short-lived version of Djokovic ;D I just need to know when will be my Then eventually the original rivalry will happen again. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by KVD on 06/28/18 at 06:08:17 Not so short lived I think. Based on how much SMK Neo has played this year (0?) and comparing that to you, there is no reason to believe he would suddenly outperform you next CDM. ;D Having said that, I'm certain I've played shitloads more than him too this year and me beating him overall would be quite the upset (I've never done it before and don't expect to). Being a TT specialist doesn't really get you far as you know. ::) And of course Neo has his level regardless of practice, so who knows. :) |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by ScouB on 06/28/18 at 07:02:26 We had a 4days meeting few weeks ago, so at least I have the same 2players practice than him this year. He may have had a couple more weekend meetings tho. But obviously I've played shitloads more time Trial than him...but as you said it usually is not what is required to perform at CDM. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Sami de la SMK on 06/28/18 at 08:19:00 41717D6750120 wrote:
You mean Murray / Federer? As the Olympic Gold Medal win came in line with the CDM 2012 result. Nadal is a lot more like Narnet (or maybe Daniel Lopez as a 2nd option). The first two letters of those names are the same plus I think he (Nadal) is Spanish too. Although Federer is Swiss so... Meanwhile away from Tennis and back on Earth. I dont think an original rivalry can happen again though we may face from time to time on some of the modes. Also the lower ranked played are climbing up and putting pressure on the Top tiers. We have seen players like Jey and Salim for example both step up and climb to the higher ranks on the racing modes. Geo and Harold also had some early exits last year if i remember. Then with Christian Wild back and his GP performance before, he will be one to watch. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Antistar on 06/28/18 at 08:53:35 0A3A362C1B590 wrote:
Is it confirmed that Geo won't make it this year? I just hope this is not a matter of money. :( |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by KVD on 06/28/18 at 09:05:21 Yes it is and no it isn't. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Shock on 06/28/18 at 15:21:13 Re: OP I would have preferred a ROM that was just DP1-DP20. [smiley=engel017.gif] |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by RVZ on 06/29/18 at 06:21:28 I said to myself I wont play DP anymore :) But I can record something soon. Gonna have some practice there first so I dont look like a complete nub |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by Sami de la SMK on 06/29/18 at 06:35:32 694E5E45434A4A582B0 wrote:
Dont worry we will help you out and youl be confident with those tracks quickly. DP3 is a difficult track but youl get round it fine. When you have done the videos add them to youtube and send to us, we will help you quickly. If you attend CDM we can also show you some basics, youl learn a lot there from watching live SMK. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by AndyHine on 07/06/18 at 22:29:44 It might help to take a break from time trial to play 150cc for a bit. (I assume you're playing TT) It will help you improve at the game overall. I know 150cc and TT are far different, but if you can get really good at controlling the kart in 150cc, then doing it in TT becomes easier. I played a fair amount of 150cc the past few weeks and I came back to TT this past week. I'll continue to play both over the next month. |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by RVZ on 07/11/18 at 03:07:59 I'm aiming for a 1:33.xx on DP2 and will try to record a proper run. This track is so frustrating. But have to admit there are some sweet corner combinations on this course like Moll said. [smiley=beer.gif] |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by RVZ on 07/11/18 at 23:14:52 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnlX16s5IM0 Recorded a decent opener. Tips are welcome |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by KVD on 07/11/18 at 23:34:09 Your last 2 corners were nice, don't have to change too much about that for now. The beginning of the lap and especially chicane you can win time by trying to steer less. In that lap you're oversteering when the corner is already sort of done. You can win tenths there by trying to straighten out earlier with a counter steer. Keep on karting! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Donut Plains 1, 2 and 3 can kiss my ass Post by RVZ on 07/12/18 at 00:04:20 Yeah the chicane I always misread. I get what you'r saying. Donut Plains 2 is actually a nice track. I was a scumbag for badmouth this course |
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