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Message started by Goomba on 01/27/17 at 09:11:44

Title: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Goomba on 01/27/17 at 09:11:44

Hello everyone is ya boi goomb and emoh

Since there has been talk about this in multiple threads and comments,
the question is whether or not we should bring Player of the Year (And the other awards such as POW, POM, POQ) back.

This forum post is so that we can discuss this subject and the possible future of award distribution.
We could host polls for the POY (and maybe POQ?) for the years we've missed, and for 2017 and on we'd get all the awards back.

So to sum it up: POY (Maybe POQ) for the past years and host them in polls
POW, POM, POQ, POY from 2017 (so we'd have to go back a little bit)
We could also add POM for 2016 since it's still kinda recent and was definitely active enough.

Thoughts?

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Gav on 01/27/17 at 09:20:12

Sounds good, would certainly be good fun.

+1 from me.

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by TheJackster1676 on 01/27/17 at 09:21:50

Yoo, wassup my boi goomb, TJ here

I think adding a "Player of the _____" thing can only be good. It would just be another thing that people can work to achieve, as long as its kept balanced by not ignoring anyone outside the top 50, for example. It would work better if everyone's achievements are considered, even those much lower in the rankings. Doing polls here would probably be the best way to do that.

Im not sure we should look back at 2016 (even tho yung Goomb might really want this given the insanely good year he had) just because thats been, done, finished, ovah. Starting a POM for January 2017 though would have my full support. POW from either Jan 1st or starting on Feb 1st would also be something I would like to see, I dont mind which.

Wish you the best of luck with making this a thing.

-Ya boi, TJ

Oh, hi emoh, didnt see you there, you had an ok 2016 too :^)

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by TheFrigz on 01/27/17 at 09:29:36

I vote one big NO. So there.  [smiley=nicewr.gif]

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by HugheyBoy116 on 01/27/17 at 10:23:09

I vote yes

Its far more motivating and makes competition fun

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Colvin76 on 01/27/17 at 12:14:14

I vote yes.
Awards would encourage everyone to play better. Plus, it would be interesting and fun. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Gav on 01/27/17 at 12:19:22


0A2222202F2C4D0 wrote:
Hello everyone is ya boi goomb and emoh


So Goomba & Emo are the same person.

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Aron Langerak on 01/27/17 at 14:04:01

Alex is the one to take care of this.. in no time we have a lack of inactivity and it will stop.. doesn't make any sense bringing them back again! By the way we all know (altho it's not official) that you won it this year! Congrats  [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Goomba on 01/27/17 at 14:11:42


42716C6D323B030 wrote:
Alex is the one to take care of this.. in no time we have a lack of inactivity and it will stop.. doesn't make any sense bringing them back again! By the way we all know (altho it's not official) that you won it this year! Congrats  [smiley=beer.gif]


21 people were active last week. And it's only been getting more active. I mean why not bring them back if the community is active?

And thanks, I suppose  [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Gav on 01/27/17 at 14:25:47


63504D4C131A220 wrote:
in no time we have a lack of inactivity

Have you read the news recently or any time in the last 18 months? It's not disappearing anytime soon.


63504D4C131A220 wrote:
doesn't make any sense bringing them back again!

That comment doesn't make any sense. Is it just because the "old school" players have all quit?


63504D4C131A220 wrote:
By the way we all know (altho it's not official) that you won it this year! Congrats  [smiley=beer.gif]


7C4F52530C053D0 wrote:
a guy named Mike Koehoorn is taken over the ranks the last months by his new boostingtechnique.. Now the retired players like me have a big disadventage on some tracks (especially BP lap obv).

I had to mention this as this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The longer any game is played, the more strats evolve and improve. If you're pissed about people beating your times you know what you need to do. You don't need to piss all over other people's achievements by writing snide remarks all over the forum just to feel better about yourself.

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Aron Langerak on 01/27/17 at 14:40:01

Lol that last thing made me really laugh  ;D I'm very impressed by how you think how I feel. I have nothing against Goomba, instead I invited him a long time ago (even before this new technique) and I wish him all the best! In SMK there are some big changes upcoming and I was just using this for an example ;) To be honest I don't give any shit about MKDD for a long time already but I still hang around to see what's going on.. I love seeing Goomba taking over the ranks here! It's time for a new Dutch champion hehe  [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Gav on 01/27/17 at 14:46:35


7C4F52530C053D0 wrote:
I love seeing Goomba taking over the ranks here! It's time for a new Dutch champion hehe  [smiley=beer.gif]

Fair enough, that's not how it comes across from your comments.


7C4F52530C053D0 wrote:
To be honest I don't give any shit about MKDD for a long time already

So why do you feel the need to voice your opinion on bringing back MKDD awards?

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Etch on 01/27/17 at 15:41:14

There are plenty of detailed updates to go back after the fact.

As for things like POY's, they should be unanimous since many players wandered away etc.

If people care about POW points, take similar approach to awards given after 2007?

Either way, it's for fun!

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by DavidGPena on 01/27/17 at 16:12:53

@VAJ welcome to mkdd! First, to answer your question if you look at the site mariokart.video theres a site with and updated list on videos, including best vids uploaded. And second, this thread is meant for discussion on the awards that arent distributed out anymore, please ask further questions on a separate forum post or in the mkdd public discord  [smiley=dankk2.gif]

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by VAJ on 01/27/17 at 16:29:52

let me give some anwser to this topic then! if you want that!

who idea what it to ever quit!? it's always good to award active people. so thats a yes for me

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by VAJ on 01/27/17 at 16:30:54


2C13170A0E0A10170A00260E0C630 wrote:
@VAJ  please ask further questions on a separate forum post or in the mkdd public discord  [smiley=dankk2.gif]


if i'm not mistaken i started my personal topic for help, would be better if you could guide me there  ;)
instead of giving me orders  ;)

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Goomba on 01/27/17 at 17:26:51


00373C3F2239560 wrote:
[quote author=2C13170A0E0A10170A00260E0C630 link=1485537104/0#13 date=1485562373]@VAJ  please ask further questions on a separate forum post or in the mkdd public discord  [smiley=dankk2.gif]


if i'm not mistaken i started my personal topic for help, would be better if you could guide me there  ;)
instead of giving me orders  ;)
[/quote]

Nah, emo's reaction here is perfectly justified.


500A515359515B0F0F3A0 wrote:
There are plenty of detailed updates to go back after the fact.

As for things like POY's, they should be unanimous since many players wandered away etc.

If people care about POW points, take similar approach to awards given after 2007?

Either way, it's for fun!


Emo and I went for POY (And maybe POQ) for the years before 2016/2017 as a way to "cover" the years without spending too much time on it. Also I don't think people should care about the points, I feel like it should only be something fun to look back on like "Oh yeah that month I did well" or "hey that was a good week", and not something like "I had 15 insane weeks and you have 12" because that's not what awards should be for in my opinion.

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by @ndrew on 01/27/17 at 19:32:08

I don't see the point tbh. You're asking a lot from poor Alex. If you kiddies wanna do your own poll thing go for it.  ;D

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Goomba on 01/27/17 at 19:42:41


1E303A2C3B2901133F2A365E0 wrote:
I don't see the point tbh. You're asking a lot from poor Alex. If you kiddies wanna do your own poll thing go for it.  ;D


I'm saying that we could host polls for every decision. The ones from all the updates before can be done in the forum so Alex wouldn't have to update every update in 2017.

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by @ndrew on 01/27/17 at 20:03:11

Still a pretty fucking  dumb idea imho :)

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by DavidGPena on 01/27/17 at 20:08:19

but andrew we were going to give all the awards to you :c ( [ch865]° [ch860][ch662] [ch865]°)

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by @ndrew on 01/27/17 at 20:09:45

Added polls

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Colvin76 on 01/27/17 at 20:35:23

Um, if this is a serious poll then you should remove the third option wtf...

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by DavidGPena on 01/27/17 at 21:00:12

This shouldn't be considered a serious poll at all as this should first be used for discussion. Later on we'll make a separate, real poll, once we feel that all the subjects have been properly discussed. As this post has only been put on here for less than a day, I feel like it hasn't been sufficient time to exchange opinions. Maybe sometime within the week or earlier depending on the activity on this post.  :)

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by TheFrigz on 01/27/17 at 21:20:56

I propose a new poll:  should we ban all speedrun kiddies from the players page?

http://res.cloudinary.com/urbandictionary/image/upload/a_exif,c_fit,h_200,w_200/v1395991705/gjn81wvxqsq6yzcwubok.png

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by TonyD on 01/27/17 at 23:56:02

A lot of frustration in arguments, i read

a lack of sex mabye, must have to do with it?


I think it's a cool idea, shouldn't immediately refer to the past concept of POY, POM, ... it could be handled different now. Either way those who don't want it shouldn't be that negatif :p it's just for fun I guess and you don't have to be a part of it. As I understand Alex won't have to do all the work? And you can also keep the 'work' low by not doing POW but only POY and POM. Personally I'm not that into the idea, but I'll vote yes and see what it brings. Could also be a way of reviving the community even more :) Other ideas may come out of it too. I don't see the big issue.

Wish you all the best, no hatred brothersss

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Jocelyn SITEK on 01/28/17 at 04:56:20

I don't think the POY and so are a good idea, for me it's not a good system, and by example rivalries are far better.
I vote NO.

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Colvin76 on 01/28/17 at 06:51:08

When does the poll come to a close?

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Goomba on 01/28/17 at 07:04:20


1F3A3E3A6C60550 wrote:
I don't think the POY and so are a good idea, for me it's not a good system, and by example rivalries are far better.
I vote NO.


Awards are not for rivalries. Awards are for rewarding the player that got good achievements that week. If someone's mad because they didn't get the POW, POM, etc than that's their fault. It shouldn't be a fight or a game who gets it. It should be something extra.

That's why the point system for awards is stupid in my opinion. It really shouldn't be about "getting the most awards" or "beating someone else".

@colvin I have no clue, andrew added this random poll which is a joke, and even still people are in favor (5-2) of awards. I'd say we wait until the end of the month and just count the replies in this thread

Title: Re: Bringing Back Awards #BBA
Post by Etch on 01/29/17 at 05:45:46


5A7272707F7C1D0 wrote:
Emo and I went for POY (And maybe POQ) for the years before 2016/2017 as a way to "cover" the years without spending too much time on it.


That's doable, pick 4 best players from each year then go from there?

I'm sure there isn't much outcry for POM/POW.  Some sites just dole them out because they always have regardless of activity.  It doesn't take too long to slog through a year of updates to pick out finest karters.  Alex made it even easier by mentioning people outside the top 100!

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