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Message started by Mick on 05/12/14 at 07:21:42

Title: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 05/12/14 at 07:21:42

Some of the Mario Kart 7 players might remember this now old project of mine from 2011 :

http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1317842958

The basic concept was to record, gather, archive and upload the best time trial records of MK7 in one single place. But the problem at the time was that we made plans for the YT channel based on assumptions when we didn't know much about what the game would actually offer.

Of course, as it turned out the final game didn't have any leaderboards nor option to share select ghosts online (nevermind the technical difficulties of recording 3DS footage in the first place), the whole thing quickly became a fiasco.

But now for this console game, I believe we have enough evidence at this point of time to actually be able to successfully capture the best times in the world, be it through the worldwide tops, or friend sharing. So we're trying this another time again !

https://www.youtube.com/user/MK8Records (nothing to see there yet, just showing I'm serious about this)

We're now recruiting video recorders following as many of those criteria as possible :

- Ability to provide and upload quickly direct-feed high-quality footage (720p / 1080p)
- Preferably available from day one release and for most of the days (even if only a couple hours per day)
- Must be trusted by the overall karting community, at least if you're going to be one of the main uploaders. We can't risk having anyone suddently hijacking the channel and lose dozens of videos forever (although I hope we can keep back-up files somewhere).

Currently we have some frenchies willing to help and record some footage when the time comes, so we're mostly looking for at least an American recorder and an Australian recorder, maybe a Japanese recorder if possible. But if you're an European recorder that's great too ! If a lot of people are on board, it will make it easier for everyone to have updated videos at the disposal of the players, as long as we're organized.

Hope you can help making this a success for the time trial community this time :)

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Alex R. on 05/12/14 at 08:00:19

I'm willing to take part in this; but I can also record with my El Gato.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Terrence Fenner on 05/13/14 at 09:57:28

I just subscribe the MK8 Records page ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by RRD on 05/16/14 at 08:59:33

I really hope the game has true Top 10s so that all this becomes possible.
Please give your suggestions about the template. Once we start recording it will be too late to change.
I went through the MK7 thread about the aborted MK7Records channel to gather some insights:

TITLE:

Despite the fact that YouTube allows up to 100 characters in video titles, it will cut off the title on multiple places when it's too long, including video suggestions/ video endscreen/ video list on channel page/ interface on smartphones, consoles and other devices.
Many uploaders used to put the game's abbreviation between brackets right at the beginning but because of the aforementioned reason I think it's not necessary.

http://abload.de/img/mk8_players-page_tt-vp9k93.png

http://abload.de/img/mk8_players-page_tt-vg1j3n.png

Title is very important for search engine optimization purposes and [MK8] is not ideal in that case as much more people will be typing “mario kart 8” and “world record” than “mk8” and “wr”. If MK8Records eventually hosts videos that are not World Records, it may be better to put it before Mario Kart 8 so that it's still a bit visible. Here are some suggestions (the 2 first ones seem better imo):

3DS Piranha Plant Slide - X:XX.XXX - MMMMMMMMMM (Mario Kart 8 World Record)

3DS Piranha Plant Slide - X:XX.XXX - MMMMMMMMMM (World Record Mario Kart 8)

X:XX.XXX - MMMMMMMMMM - 3DS Piranha Plant Slide (World Record Mario Kart 8)

X:XX.XXX - 3DS Piranha Plant Slide - MMMMMMMMMM (World Record Mario Kart 8)

DESCRIPTION:

By default YouTube will only show the 5 first lines so the most important information must be located there; the rest will be visible upon clicking “Show more”.
http://abload.de/img/mk8_players-page_tt-vbrj1o.png

- Date when the WR was set, date when the WR was beaten, duration (not sure if in days like on Cole's website, or in years+months+days)
- Character/vehicle combination (even if visible in the video, it's still useful for performing searches)
- Lap times (same reason as above)

- Comment from MK8Records that gives the player's nickname, the other nicknames he may be known for (in case the player used a different name like THEGADTIME), his nationality, notable facts

- Player's comment on his run

494E5F5640535D3A0 wrote:

If the player has some interesting comment worth reading. Let him write that comment like everyone writes comments to videos. If it is very special/interesting then perhaps it could be added to the description. But we don't need to have a dedicated comment sections in the video description, trying to get players comments on every record they make.

- http://abload.de/img/icon_players-page54jnj.png Link to his profile on the MK8 Players' Page (if no profile: link to the MK8 Players' Page index http://www.mariokart64.com/mk8/ ?)
- http://abload.de/img/icon_miiverseb4kx4.png Link to the Miiverse comment posted by the player (if no comment: link to his Miiverse profile)
- http://abload.de/img/icon_mkwrspjjfk.png Link to his profile on mkwrs.com (http://mkwrs.com/mk8/)
- http://abload.de/img/icon_youtube8lke1.png http://abload.de/img/icon-twitterngj14.png Other links to the player's accounts (YouTube channel, twitter account, profile on German/French/Japanese TT website…)

- Info about the video (background music, person who recorded)

- Previous WR time/player/date/video link

A few players (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DOM0byavKc) put their shrooms/coin counter per lap (ex. 1-1-1 / 7-1-0) but I am not sure if it is useful.
Some people complained about the use of special characters but I believe a mere bullet here or an arrow there can only improve readability of the information. Please give your opinion on what you feel about this.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by ALAKTORN on 05/16/14 at 10:02:02

could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Ebil on 05/16/14 at 11:55:53

Can't you put Mario Kart 8 in the tags section? And leave the abbreviation. Since the search engine checks tags too. Having the game abbreviation at the beginning is useful for players who don't already know about the channel.
Though it depends on where you want to put the game name. Abbreviation if at front. Full text if at end.
But either way, you'll probably want to include the other choice in the tags for the video.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 05/16/14 at 12:20:08

494E4540484D5E475F444D48435B2C0 wrote:

Actually, an even better idea would be to include the game logo in the miniature. Doesn't leave any room for confusion compared to an abbreviation... which is already in the name of the channel itself anyway :P

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by ALAKTORN on 05/16/14 at 12:25:58

70777C797174677E667D74717A62150 wrote:

Since the search engine checks tags too.

It doesn’t. Key words in the video’s title will make the video show up far more than if you just put them in tags.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Ebil on 05/16/14 at 12:37:32

101D101A051E031F510 wrote:

[quote author=70777C797174677E667D74717A62150 link=1399908102/0#5 date=1400270153]Since the search engine checks tags too.

It doesn’t. Key words in the video’s title will make the video show up far more than if you just put them in tags.[/quote]
Just went and did a search. You're completely right.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Cole on 05/16/14 at 13:40:38

imo something like this should be in every description:

Compete in MK8 time trials at: [link to MK8 PP]
Discuss MK8 time trials at: [link to the MK8 section of these forums]
View the current World Records at: [link to MK8 WR site]

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by .Hahaae on 05/16/14 at 14:09:59

As for shortening titles but keeping relevant info in there, perhaps something like

[MK8 WR] Mario Circuit: x:xx.xxx - playername

??

The extra "0" before the first digit of the record that many people use isn't necessary. And in a TT community, it should be well-understood what "mk8" and "WR" mean.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by ρf☆Pαμl on 05/18/14 at 09:23:20

http://youtu.be/3HIC47x-L_U

!!!!! [smiley=engel017.gif] [smiley=engel017.gif] [smiley=engel017.gif]

GOD PLS NINTENDO FINALLY DID SOMETHING GOOD

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Terrence Fenner on 05/19/14 at 05:51:39

GOOD! Im surprised that "Daan" used Baby Mario and not any of the heavyweights

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by RRD on 05/25/14 at 05:21:24

4F424F455A415C400E0 wrote:

could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it

Though it depends on where you want to put the game name. Abbreviation if at front. Full text if at end.
But either way, you'll probably want to include the other choice in the tags for the video.

Yes, I will include MK8 WR in the default tags. ALAKTORN is right, the words located in the video title bear a higher importance (especially if they're popular words) when YouTube builds search results.

6F4340496B45404E495E582C0 wrote:

Ok. I guess it will be copy-pasted in every description in the early days instead of direct links to the players' profiles on such websites because we won't have time. Btw is it confirmed that MK8 PP URL will be http://www.mariokart64.com/mk8/ ?

7A7A7A120 wrote:

The extra "0" before the first digit of the record that many people use isn't necessary. And in a TT community, it should be well-understood what "mk8" and "WR" mean.

You are correct, the zero is useless and takes room so it won't be written. Even Nintendo has removed it this time:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/21/1401020863-mk8-top10-useless-zero-removed.png
It may be possible to attract new players in the community from WR videos on YouTube, that's why as Ebil suggested the popular keyword will be spelled in full at the end of the title, and the terms known by the community will be put in tags for efficient searches (such as “mk8 wr bc” for Bowser's Castle WR in MK8).

TAGS:

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/21/1401022953-mk8-mk8records-default-video-tags-v1.png
(see also: YouTube Keyword Suggestion tool (https://www.youtube.com/keyword_tool))

there's still room for some more… did I miss any obvious tag?

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 05/25/14 at 05:36:34

0B0B1D590 wrote:

there's still room for some more… did I miss any obvious tag?

I don't see much missing other than "best record(s)", and even that one is debatable.
Might want to include "best setup" anyway even if "setup" is only used by a minority. Maybe add "best build" for that matter, I've seen that term used on some other non-kart sites.

Edit : Will there be tags specific to the video uploaded, like the vehicle parts or the track abbreviations ? Personally I think it'll be a bit too much extra work for something that may not actually help, but what do others feel about this ?

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by RRD on 05/25/14 at 06:36:32

^ YouTube will also search in the description. It has a low priority compared with title & tags, but in that case we're talking about game-specific elements that not much people will type, so there's no need to customize tags in each video for that purpose I believe, it's a loss of time.
For example type “mk7 wr beast glider” in the search bar and you'll find multiple TT videos with “Beast Glider” somewhere in the description.

The only thing that needs to be added manually for each video is indeed the track abbreviation as it doesn't appear anywhere else (and can be added quickly).

I added the build & setup thing. You can see default upload settings at: https://www.youtube.com/upload_defaults

The header of the main channel page (https://www.youtube.com/user/MK8Records) can only contain 1 external link. Should we put the MK8 Players' Page, the MK8 PP forum, Cole's website…?
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/21/1401028373-mk8-mk8records-channel-page-link.png

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 05/25/14 at 07:29:25

I really doubt the MK8 PP will ever have all the 32 WRs on the site. Therefore it could lead to a bit of confusion if someone discover the PP and see that the top time (Site Record) listed for a given track is different (and slower) than the one in the video he just watched.

So if we had to choose only one site, the WR history is the best one as it will be the most updated AND the most relevant to the content uploaded on MK8Records.

The link to the MK8 PP should still be added in the description of the channel and the videos though.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by ALAKTORN on 05/25/14 at 07:55:53

19190F4B0 wrote:

[quote author=4F424F455A415C400E0 link=1399908102/0#4 date=1400263322]could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it

I did a quick search on GameFAQ's Mario Kart 7 board (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/997822-mario-kart-7?search=combo) (3 times as many “combo” as “setup”) + the Players' Page MK7 board (http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?board=MK3DS) (224 “combo” vs 95 “setup”) and it seems people are more likely to use and search for “combo”. I also found multiple posts from yourself, not limited to:
[img]http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/21/1401019815-mk8-players-page-yt-description-combo-vs-setup.png[img][/quote]
I’ve only used “combo” myself because that’s what everybody else uses, but it makes literally no grammatical sense and is eye-cancer for any language-loving individual. I’d still much prefer if we used “setup” rather than “combo”, it would look a lot more professional

also, relevant link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_setup (notice the title)

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Alex R. on 05/25/14 at 12:28:59

525F5258475C415D130 wrote:

[quote author=19190F4B0 link=1399908102/0#13 date=1401024084][quote author=4F424F455A415C400E0 link=1399908102/0#4 date=1400263322]could you call it “Setup” rather than “Combo”? “Combo” is fucking stupid and looks like a dyslexic thought of it

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by ALAKTORN on 05/25/14 at 16:16:18

Alex, go fuck yourself, only mentally ill people could think “combo” for a car’s setup would make any sense

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Alex R. on 05/25/14 at 21:27:06

Then you can continue calling it a set up and we can call it a combo.
Problem solved.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by RRD on 05/25/14 at 22:05:35

7F727F756A716C703E0 wrote:

I’ve only used “combo” myself because that’s what everybody else uses, but it makes literally no grammatical sense and is eye-cancer for any language-loving individual. I’d still much prefer if we used “setup” rather than “combo”, it would look a lot more professional

also, relevant link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racing_setup (notice the title)

Well, in our case it's not just a car setup but a combination of a chassis, tires, glider *and* character as all 4 will be put in the same line.
Ultimately, what matters is that it's the word most people use, while setup will be in the tags, just like Mario Kart 8 is in the title while mk8 is in the tags.

It seems I am the only person on the channel who can record vids & will get MK8 on release date. If you are interested in joining please contact Mick because I am certainly not going to be able to record many WRs by myself.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by ALAKTORN on 05/26/14 at 03:47:51

combo gives me cancer every time I hear it, you all suck massive penis

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Olifré - Olivier Luyckx on 05/26/14 at 03:55:27

I can help the channel if needed ;)
I have a HD PVR, so I can record in 720p ;D

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by RRD on 05/26/14 at 04:27:21

7D4A696C6377603C33050 wrote:

I can help the channel if needed ;)
I have a HD PVR, so I can record in 720p ;D

Cool. Send to Mick your Google+ page, or the e-mail address of your Google account, so that he gives you access to the channel.

Then if you want to upload videos, click on your icon in the upper-right corner [ch8594] Switch account [ch8594] MK8 Records.

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/22/1401106947-mk8-players-page-yt-channel-account-switch.png

We'd also need people from America because of timezones.

ALAKTORN I promise if you get a WR we'll put SETUP in the video description. ;D

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Nuke on 05/26/14 at 09:48:54

If I purchase the Wii U + MK8 bundle by release or shortly after, I am very anticipated in participating in this. I worked hard on optimizing MKW video recording, so I believe MK8 should have an equally organized way of presenting any of-value records.

Also hopefully Nintendo will take as much care as they did with MKW's leaderboard and ghost system instead of they way they handled MK7. Also, as you said Mick, now that MK8 will be a console game, game recording will be much easier than buying not widely-known 3DS capture cards...which are also pricey. I own a Hauppauge HD PVR Model 1212, as you can see (this video was not uploaded by me, but by someone else since it was a request; the video is still recorded by me):

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZBcFS9dEzQ[/media]

Hopefully that meets your expectations.

I'm pretty active in the TT community, even though I haven't shown much activity here. And about being trusted, the only possible hurtful thing I've done is hack for fun in a war against some random clan, which I then got caught and was put on the IL banlist. I am nowhere near someone who would preform bad and troublesome acts for fun, and never have, plus I can safely say we have all hacked for fun at least once while playing games.

444452160 wrote:

[ch8204][ch8204][ch8204]

I agree that optimizing search results in a good idea, and that we should see what we can do to make the videos more accessible, but some of your ideas seem like they could be worked on. This is all only my best opinion so if you would want to debate on what would be best, please do so. We can start off with how the title of videos should be put.

The way people like Sword or Mander put their titles seems like the best shortened, clean, informative way of presenting what the video is about. For example, a spammy way of putting the title would be such as:

Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - [ch9734]J[ch945][ch962]©h[ch945][ch9734] (Mario Kart 8 World Record)

The problem with this is that it probably wouldn't fit under YouTube's title space when viewing the video. You'd have to click on the title again just to see the rest of it. Yes I know this is only for search engine optimization, but it would be better to include such tags and wording in the video description or in the tags themselves. Plus, this look just looks long. A cleaner way of putting this would be:

[MK8 WR] Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - [ch9734]J[ch945][ch962]©h[ch945][ch9734]

This looks short and to the point. Abbreviated words are better when classifying information as well, as they take up less space and appeal to the time trial and normal aspect of the community. It would also mostly fit under YouTube's video title viewing limit when viewing the video. Sure, if you have track names that are long by default, they might still break YouTube's viewing limit. This however should only be under 10% of the tracks in the game, whereas your suggestion would be for most if not all of the video titles. Also another point, which is still debatable; the only people who would probably be interested in the time trial aspect of the game are...well time trialers. Most time trialers already know the abbreviations such as "WR" and "MK8". The full, extended words should really only be left for the video tags and description. Here is an example of what the video title would look like in comparison to the extended version:

http://i.gyazo.com/4d82b4e429fb5513794895533fe799d4.png

http://i.gyazo.com/80fa4a15bffc7aab80b36129975afff6.png

As you can see, the second image looks more visually appeasing.

As for the video descriptions, I agree the most of what you suggested is spot on.

At the top of the description before the "show more" tab should be opened, it should include the following information in the five lines:

- A note that says "Watch in 720p / 1080p."
- Date when time was set
- Current ranking of record when the time was set
- Lap splits of the run
- Vehicle combo used

As for the rest of the description after the "show more" tab, it would be cool if it included the following:

- Previous world record and the duration of it to the current world record
- [optional] player's comment
- Download link to the raw video to be viewed in better quality and frame-rate
- The music used in the run if used, following the link to the music
- Link to the player's YouTube channel, and/or other main social networks, and if possible the stream link to where they set the run at.
- Links to the official rankings sites, such as Cole's site, the MK8 PP (when created), the MK8 PP forums, etc.

As for special characters, characters such as underscores to separate sections of the description and bullets to list information if very helpful. Also, if music was used, the song name would be surrounded in music symbols. As cool as Andy's description looks, it's not necessary at all. Here is an example of what the description would look like:

Link to the description since it is too large to screen-shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0p0rJwIb7Q

The reason I put quotation marks around the numbers instead of decimals and semicolons in the description is so we could prevent YouTube from automatically creating timestamps, which would make it look like a mess. You could also have viewers accidentally click one of these, interrupting them.

I have much more to say from here, but I'm going to stop it here, and see what you and other people think about my suggestions thus far. Please let me know what you think about it.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 05/26/14 at 11:30:02

Oh so you're LF2992. I was wondering who was that new member that popped out of nowhere with a huge post.

Where's your PP profile ? I remember RRD mentioned you as a candidate for recording to me... unfortunately I don't even have the option to add you as a manager for some reason. PM me so we can try to fix this.

7E455B55300 wrote:

Also hopefully Nintendo will take as much care as they did with MKW's leaderboard and ghost system instead of they way they handled MK7.

This how ghost replays look on MK8 :

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9iEpzow7_o[/media]

Actually better than expected, it's exactly like a Time Trial recorded during a run, except that the character is transparent. Clearly show the splits and even the coins !

7E455B55300 wrote:

The way people like Sword or Mander put their titles seems like the best shortened, clean, informative way of presenting what the video is about. For example, a spammy way of putting the title would be such as:

Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - [ch9734]J[ch945][ch962]©h[ch945][ch9734] (Mario Kart 8 World Record)

The problem with this is that it probably wouldn't fit under YouTube's title space when viewing the video. You'd have to click on the title again just to see the rest of it. Yes I know this is only for search engine optimization, but it would be better to include such tags and wording in the video description or in the tags themselves. Plus, this look just looks long. A cleaner way of putting this would be:

[MK8 WR] Sweet Sweet Canyon - 1:23.456 - [ch9734]J[ch945][ch962]©h[ch945][ch9734]

This looks short and to the point. Abbreviated words are better when classifying information as well, as they take up less space and appeal to the time trial and normal aspect of the community. It would also mostly fit under YouTube's video title viewing limit when viewing the video. Sure, if you have track names that are long by default, they might still break YouTube's viewing limit. This however should only be under 10% of the tracks in the game, whereas your suggestion would be for most if not all of the video titles. Also another point, which is still debatable; the only people who would probably be interested in the time trial aspect of the game are...well time trialers. Most time trialers already know the abbreviations such as "WR" and "MK8". The full, extended words should really only be left for the video tags and description. Here is an example of what the video title would look like in comparison to the extended version:

http://i.gyazo.com/4d82b4e429fb5513794895533fe799d4.png

http://i.gyazo.com/80fa4a15bffc7aab80b36129975afff6.png

As you can see, the second image looks more visually appeasing.

The way you propose is better for the title of the video you're currently watching, however it is worse for the video suggestions as they don't display as many characters as the one under the main video. We think it's better to make it easier for people to find our videos through the suggestions, I've even suggested during some information on the miniature itself if possible. However if you can manage to change our mind, go ahead !

7E455B55300 wrote:

As for the video descriptions, I agree the most of what you suggested is spot on.

At the top of the description before the "show more" tab should be opened, it should include the following information in the five lines:

- A note that says "Watch in 720p / 1080p."
- Date when time was set
- Current ranking of record when the time was set
- Lap splits of the run
- Vehicle combo used

As for the rest of the description after the "show more" tab, it would be cool if it included the following:

- Previous world record and the duration of it to the current world record
- [optional] player's comment
- Download link to the raw video to be viewed in better quality and frame-rate
- The music used in the run if used, following the link to the music
- Link to the player's YouTube channel, and/or other main social networks, and if possible the stream link to where they set the run at.
- Links to the official rankings sites, such as Cole's site, the MK8 PP (when created), the MK8 PP forums, etc.

As for special characters, characters such as underscores to separate sections of the description and bullets to list information if very helpful. Also, if music was used, the song name would be surrounded in music symbols. As cool as Andy's description looks, it's not necessary at all. Here is an example of what the description would look like:

Link to the description since it is too large to screen-shot: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0p0rJwIb7Q

- A note that says "Watch in 720p / 1080p.
I don't think it is even necessary or at least an information important enough to be at the top of the description, when we already have the gear on the video player showing the resolutions available.

- Date when time was set
- Current ranking of record when the time was set
You could likely cram those two in a single line, but why not if we have the space.

- Lap splits of the run
As mentioned above, the splits are shown directly in the ghost replay, but it may be a information significant enough to be on top of the description (same thing for coins and mushrooms btw).

- Vehicle combo used
This one should be on the top, indeed.

I agree with the rest. Maybe we could move the link of the high-quality 60fps video to the top (if we do them). Some of the special characters may be a little bit extraneous, but I'd say it looks great. I wanted to include underscore lines too. And it shouldn't be a problem if we just copy-paste the description and use it as a template for all videos.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Alex R. on 05/27/14 at 10:14:43

I would definitely trust Nuke as a manager of the channel, if this is what it's about. I've known him for over a year and the only non trustworthy thing he's done was hacking against a random clan, other than that, nothing comes to mind. He's quite a mature person when needed as well, so it would definitely be a plus to have him help out.
He doesn't have a profile if I recall, but I could probably assume that he would make one for MK8, though I haven't asked him, so you could call that statement baseless.
His quality is definitely among the best of current active TT recorders, especially since he uses Sony Vegas, a program, that in my opinion, is inferior to VirtualDub (What most of the oldschool TT Recorders used, Sword, Shaun, NMeade, MEGA3WII, etc.)

I'm also willing to help out with the channel, I'm not sure if I mentioned this before, but I own an El Gato Game Capture HD, that can record up to 1080p raw, if I recall. Though my upload speed lacks, I can always upload things overnight, if needed.
In the end, the rest of this post may be completely irrelevant, depending on whether or not GameXplain's videos of MK8 are direct output, I'll check later on when I have a chance to edit some more.
An example of my rendering settings on MK8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYgNGahISII
Once in a while Nuke and I talk about quality, though he's more knowledgeable he helped me out an enormous amount with my MKW Quality, an example of my MKW Quality (This is a ghost race, I haven't actually recorded that many runs as of recent times, though I plan to upload some PRs when I get the chance to.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1h9R_S9h_o
As for my trustworthiness, I would let other's decide. I've had rough times with people in the community so I tend to have a terrible reputation, but I've been trying as of late to put those rocky relations in the past and move forward in the community, since it's a new game and all.
Other examples:

Attempted replica of what Mindscarp used to do with his videos (The color correction and sharpness are messed up, but it takes a while and is difficult to fully sync up certain things):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu9ANFXd7rs

Koopa Cape Lap 1 with similar settings of what I currently use (Most of my videos have a strange green tint to them, although it's slight, I'm working on fixing this.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6tmuxlLceU

Onto other things.
I would have to say the way Sword or Mander do the titles would be the best, in my honest opinion; for the most part you would be able to see the entire title on a video without problem.
The description, I would agree with Nuke on all of his points, and into his etc, we should also have a link to all of the top 10s, though I'm not sure whether or not we would use Zak and Aruba's site for the WW top 10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJfIO29K2kg
I'm not sure if this is similar to what you meant Nuke, let me know what I should do otherwise and or any suggestions.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by J-Cop on 05/27/14 at 10:31:45

This is a little off-topic, but has anyone uploaded a video to youtube using the MKTV feature yet? And if yes, is the quality any good?

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Alex R. on 05/27/14 at 10:41:22

680F614D52220 wrote:

This is a little off-topic, but has anyone uploaded a video to youtube using the MKTV feature yet? And if yes, is the quality any good?

If I recall the video was somewhere on youtube, I can't find it now though.
The quality looked fine, but I think it could look better with an actual capture card and video editing, and the video was with the ghost race view so it was third person flying around like a maniac.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by RRD on 05/28/14 at 07:36:59

TOP 10s:

Players can associate a Miiverse comment to their ghost; this comment will be shown in the Top 10 view when the cursor is on their line. The game may take a few seconds to load these comments, even after “Getting Miiverse posts…” disappears, so wait a bit.
If you scroll down using buttons, the cursor will move to the next players in the list:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/22/1401288863-mk8-top10-cursor.jpg

Thus, if you want to see the full Top 10 while keeping the WR holder's comment displayed on screen, simply scroll down using the Wii U GamePad's touchscreen and take a screenshot (the TV and GamePad both show the same thing in the menus):
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2014/22/1401288977-mk8-gamepad-top-stylus.png

There is enough vertical room in the game to show all 10 times as well as the track name on screen, so if the track name is right at the top, that means you don't need to count the number of lines – there should be 10 times on-screen, no more no less.

To get the player's comment URL, press + in the game to open the comment page on Miiverse, give a “Yeah!”, then on your computer go to the list of Yeahs! given ( https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/YOURNNID/empathies ) and click on the comment. You can also Unyeah the comment from there unless you really want to give Yeahs! to all MK8 World Records. In our example, GT[ch9733]S[ch949]bøss™ 's comment URL is: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAAABUaW_BprCvQ

SLIDESHOW OF WORLDWIDE TOP 10s:

I think it would be nice to have at least once a day an archive of all 32 Top 10s – remember mandermka's website. This time, in addition to taking pics, we could provide a slideshow version on the MK8Records channel. Here's an example with yesterday's video:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-qxbzbseVo[/media]

The video is 29.97 fps and each image is shown during 150 frames (5 seconds). For those who use AviSynth, this is the script: http://www.mediafire.com/download/e366y7d0yn49epy/aMK8_Top10_imagescript.avs
Do a global replace (CTRL+H) to update the date/time part of the image file names when making a new video.

I added music so that the video is a bit more engaging, and people who do not know English track names can still understand. Let me share it:
.wav lossless (29 MB): http://www.mediafire.com/download/iok5id6p76wtx3c/MK8_Top10_medley_v1.wav
.aac 320 kbps (6 MB): http://www.mediafire.com/download/n418hn10iy4vqp1/MK8_Top10_medley_v1.mp4

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by ALAKTORN on 05/28/14 at 11:05:14

nice job RRD

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 04/10/17 at 13:52:29

Tentative bump as we get closer to the MK8 Deluxe release.

With the game tracking both 150cc and 200cc, and the 150cc records going to be different because of the stats adjustements/the new ultra mt, that makes 96 WRs to track of IN ADDITION to the MK8 Wii U records that will still be happening!

I don't know what mindscarp has planned regarding MK8DX WR videos, but doing so much recording, moreso in the launch days, is likely out of his scope, and he could probably use some help!

Since the time I have made this topic, I acquired a HD capture card for the purpose of streaming, but I can also basic recording with it as well, and have successfully recorded 720p30 videos. Haven't tried 720p60 recording yet, but considering I can't even watch 60fps videos on my current PC, this seems out of my reach. I also have a relatively shitty upload which limits how much I can put out in a single day (I estimate around 20mn for a single 720p30 vid), so I cannot currently be as productive as what would be required to pick up the slack. At least I should have enough space to archive a whole bunch of otherwise unrecorded WRs.

Asking again, is there anybody else that can do HD recording? Should we prioritise 200cc over 150cc at the beginning? How should we split the work if the team expands? Really interested in what mindscarp has to say on the matter...

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Colvin on 04/10/17 at 13:59:54

I could do it. The capture card I use is Elgato Game Capture HD which can record up to 1080p. My computer can easily handle 720p video. My internet speed is 10-20 mbps so it takes about 2-4 minutes to upload a 2:00 HD video.

Would I qualify?

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 04/10/17 at 14:04:07

That's better than what I can do for the time being so I'd say so!

There's also editing work involved in making those videos, but I'm not sure it'll be necessary for the first few weeks where the WRs will be changing fast and not being great neither.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Colvin on 04/10/17 at 14:08:39

Although, I'm still not sure if I want to do this. How long do I have to make decision? Also, I don't think I'll be getting a Nintendo Switch this month.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 04/10/17 at 14:15:48

Launch period will be when potential recorders would be the most needed. That doesn't mean you cannot be useful later down the line.

Even though I technically still own the channel IIRC, I won't take any decision for a few days, and without mindscarp's opinion, as he's much more qualified than me on the matter.

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 04/18/17 at 04:51:36

Mindscarp/RRD will not be doing recording work for Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, meaning that a new team will have task of doing the videos for that game, if we want to keep the initiative going.

Mindscarp is now officially the owner of MK8Records, and with his advice, I think a new YT channel dedicated to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is more appriopriate, rather than having everything under the MK8Records, which could have caused confusion regarding the different 150cc WRs for the Wii U and Switch games.

I have yet to create the YT account, however I have set up a new Discord server in order to structure a team and organise the various roles/tasks.

If you are (still) volunteer to help with this project, PM me and I'll send you an invite to the server. (I may end up making the server public eventually in the near future)

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Mick on 04/22/17 at 07:43:20

Sorry for triple posting, but you find the new MK8DX Records youtube channel at this link :

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_292L5mAJowD4LCCNZRbHg

Furthermore, from now on, you can also freely join the related Discord server, if you want to help in any way, provide feedback/suggestions, or keep up-to-date with future videos.

https://discord.gg/H78Kjmb

We currently have 4 recorders, myself included, so I have good hope that this venture will start of successfully!

Title: Re: Recruiting video recorders for a TT channel
Post by Suuper on 05/02/17 at 19:50:24

Big thanks to all the recorders for the MK8DX channel. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]