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https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl General >> Mafia >> MB Mafia - gg no rm https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014 Message started by Honko on 03/18/11 at 08:00:14 |
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Title: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 03/18/11 at 08:00:14 MAFIA.CGI post/vote stats (courtesy of shadow) (http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi) Jump to Day 2 (http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/375#389) Jump to Day 3 (http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/1125#1146) Jump to Day 4 (http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/1475#1477) Jump to Day 5 (http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/1675#1684) Jump to Day 6 (http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/1925#1940) Jump to End of Game (http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/2075#2075) THE RULES 1) DO NOT DISCUSS THE GAME OUTSIDE THIS THREAD unless your role specifically allows it (ie. ur maf). Otherwise, you shouldn't be talking about the game outside this thread at all. Do not discuss the game in IRC. Do not discuss the game on MSN. Do not discuss the game on AIM. Do not discuss the game in PMs. Do not discuss the game on another board. Do not discuss the game in other topics. Do not discuss the game via site news updates. Not even when you think you're about to die. Not even to tell someone the topic is open and they should post. Not even to discuss a mistake you think the host made. Not even to say this game is dildos. If you desperately need someone to bounce your ideas off of, bounce them off me. Nobody else. 2) Do not discuss the game with living players after you have died. At all. Dead players can talk to dead players all they want, but anyone who is alive should not be talking with anyone who is dead. You're dead. Deal with it. 3) You must name a playable Mario Kart character in one of your posts on day 1. Or I'll modkill you. Seriously. 4) Do not edit/delete your posts. I'll let you get away with editing a post during the first 5 minutes after it's made to fix typos or add something you forgot, but if you delete anything, or if the "Last modified by:" tag shows up, you're dead. 5) Do not directly quote or post screenshots of your role PM. A Town Vanilla's PM looks like this: Quote:
A Town power role's PM looks like this: Quote:
You can directly quote the first sentence that says the character/role name. Everything else should just be very loosely paraphrazed if you have to mention it at all. If it's recognizable as my writing, it will get you modkilled. If you're going to claim, it's a good idea to check with me first to make sure you aren't crossing the line. 6) Be active and play to win. Even the most dire situation can still be recovered from. Never give up. Post multiple times each day. Do your best to help your team win. ANYONE WHO BREAKS THESE RULES WILL BE MODKILLED AND BANNED FROM FUTURE GAMES. THE RULES ARE NOT HARD TO FOLLOW. YOU ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER THAN TO BREAK THEM, SO I WILL NOT BE MERCIFUL. Vote like this: Vote: Zarkov If you want to change your vote, you must post Unvote first. You may also vote for No Lynch. Votes and unvotes must be bolded and must be the first thing on their line so I can easily spot them, otherwise they will be ignored. You cannot vote for yourself. Days will last ~48 hours and nights ~24 hours. If a day ends with a tie, it will be extended until the tie is broken, or I might just make up some random new rules instead. If you have any questions, contact me by PM or on IRC. I will not answer questions about the game posted in this topic. Note that this game I'm going to be a little less free with role specifics than I have in the past; unless you have a question about your own role, I probably won't answer it (but you're free to try). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/18/11 at 21:45:34 Players 1. Cam 2. Darius 3. fank 4. Goose 5. Ivo 6. J-Cop 7. KoopZ 8. Matt V 9. MVT 10. NStride 11. padz 12. RDBU 13. RVZ 14. Scott 15. Sportsguy 16. Suprsilver 17. Sword 18. Tim 19. TvL 20. Web 21. Zarkov 22. Zwiebel With 22 players alive, it takes 12 votes to lynch. Day 1 ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 48 hours. START IT UP THE GAME. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/18/11 at 21:47:26 first also I'm a town member |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/18/11 at 21:51:00 I'm not going to troll very much this game because I'm town, and trolling is anti-town. I will try to troll people I think are mafia and judge them based on their reactions, but as for out of hand thread raping, that won't happen. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/18/11 at 21:51:25 I'm drunk. I must admit it! But i promised to my buddy fank that I would be watching him VERY CARFELLY! So why are you not mafia FANK!!!?????? ???? VOTE FANK! ------ also Luigi is a great kart character honko. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/18/11 at 21:53:06 ... Do i trust everyone who roleclaims... Might be too early to tell. Anyway game on. ill cast my vote later when im on the laptop |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/18/11 at 21:55:36 48797070487D70791C0 wrote:
Im so glad to know you love me mvt... And btw, mario for noobs ftw |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 21:56:38 My thoughts on this game. http://drsusanblock.3dcartstores.com/thumbnail.asp?file=assets/images/african%20fetish%20art/mambilia/penisnigeriaflash300.jpg&maxx=500&maxy=0 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/18/11 at 21:59:42 54535C5902020B320 wrote:
Im so glad to know you love me mvt... And btw, mario for noobs ftw[/quote] Can you at least answer the question I proposed? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/18/11 at 22:04:35 0130393901343930550 wrote:
Im so glad to know you love me mvt... And btw, mario for noobs ftw[/quote] Can you at least answer the question I proposed? :-?[/quote] Ask honko :D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by padz on 03/18/11 at 22:05:19 705858445205370 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/18/11 at 22:17:32 Padzup played like that in the elite/kart game. By "like that" I mean "like a complete dickfuck douchetwat." He was a villager that game, so more of the same can be expected this game. I'm willing to put Padzup on a TOWN LEAN after that post. TOWN Leans -Padzup MAFA Leans |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 22:23:11 Goose your avatar is so troll I'm adblocking it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 22:31:05 Just spent the last hour reading the OP. *cuts wrists* |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by padz on 03/18/11 at 22:32:26 I'm willing to put Ryan "Goose" White on a TRANSPARENT LEAN after that post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/18/11 at 22:52:14 1C37302C315E0 wrote:
Is this to suggest there are more than 2 parties in this game going for the win??? (eg a serial killer or something...) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/18/11 at 22:57:19 Yes, there is probably a serial killer whose task is to be the last person surviving. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/18/11 at 23:03:06 Yeah, there was one last game too. Thoughts and maybe a vote later, dinner and TV atm. Peach! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 23:04:05 just a friendly warning here for my kiwi pal: Fanky watch your late as heck post edits before you get blocked broke burned life=ruined right the heck out of this game: 1:56:39 by my timestamp (over 4 minutes from time post was made and still no edit): http://www.upload.speedrunwiki.com/images/misc/SRSLYBRO.png So that probably happened after the 5 minute limit i would report you hardcore so suck it bitch (technically, I know the post edit happened 5 minutes and 11 seconds after you made it, but only because I've got moderator powers, which most people in the game don't have. gonna catch then rape you so bad man. if i see it again im goin straight to that honky mofo runnin this shit) back from that off topic shit im gonna just let you guys know that there's a party tonight at 3 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 23:19:12 Genesis Gen.1 [1] In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. [2] The earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep; and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. [3] And God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light. [4] And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness. [5] God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day. [6] And God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters." [7] And God made the firmament and separated the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. [8] And God called the firmament Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day. [9] And God said, "Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear." And it was so. [10] God called the dry land Earth, and the waters that were gathered together he called Seas. And God saw that it was good. [11] And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind, upon the earth." And it was so. [12] The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed according to their own kinds, and trees bearing fruit in which is their seed, each according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. [13] And there was evening and there was morning, a third day. [14] And God said, "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, [15] and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth." And it was so. [16] And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also. [17] And God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth, [18] to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. [19] And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day. [20] And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens." [21] So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged birdo according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. [22] And God blessed them, saying, "Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth." [23] And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. [24] And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds." And it was so. [25] And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. [26] Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." [27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. [28] And God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth." [29] And God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. [30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food." And it was so. [31] And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day. Gen.2 [1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. [2] And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. [3] So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation. [4] These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, [5] when no plant of the field was yet in the earth and no herb of the field had yet sprung up -- for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; [6] but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground -- [7] then the LORD God formed man of dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. [8] And the LORD God planted a garden in Eden, in the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed. [9] And out of the ground the LORD God made to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight and good for food, the tree of life also in |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 23:20:11 dang, out of space...anyway I think you get the idea |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/18/11 at 23:33:41 I have no idea what's going on. Also, Dry Bones. Is that to make sure people are reading the rules? ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/18/11 at 23:40:17 7D47605C554075735B5B50605C5D5A53340 wrote:
yeah... i was wondering whether too add the fact about the serial killer idea... (think i did a run on koopa cape... then i came back to the post... I knew i was around the 5 min mark and thought that leaving out the idea of serial killers would be a noob move... (the edit itself was a noob move :P) rest assured it wont happen again (to that extremeness.) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/18/11 at 23:52:48 Anyway... new post for thoughts on the game... Now... We dont know exactly what honko has instore for us but i am guessing... Pro-Town x Vanilla 1 Cop 2 Vig 1 Doctor 2 Role blocker Pro Mafia 1 Godfather (considering the large numbers) 1/2 Roleblockers 2-4 mafia Neutral 1 (2?) Serial killer. I dont think there is a jester or anything since honko said he would keep things simple... but if im right... it is safe to say 1+x mafia are in the game... (saying 1 is constant at all times.) So the town has a (x+1)/22 chance of getting a lynch right on the 1st day... (though getting rid of a useless or inactive player is also good for the town.) opening thoughts on all players... Padz- probably Town Vanilla. Goose said it MVT- Probably town... he is eager to get rid of me and I quote... Quote:
Why would he vote for me if he does have a night kill shot... time will tell though... Nothing else so far |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 23:55:07 lol |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/18/11 at 23:55:52 page 2 get |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/19/11 at 00:16:45 A lot of people in this game. Real easy to stay off the radar, so townies are going to have to really put forth the effort to stay active. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 01:00:50 Scott is probably a villager. I don't think he ever makes that "I'm a mod" post as a maf. TheFank is trying to look helpful early, which as a new player, is sketchy. It's possible the maf team told him to do that because it's a simple task that appears town. Cam's post just now is similar in that aspect. A wussy, lite post that's easy to fake as a wolf but looks somewhat town. TOWN LEANS -Padzup -Thingy MAF LEANS -Cam -Fank |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 01:07:12 0A22223E287F4D0 wrote:
??? Me being helpful is a noob move??? Yes im new on the forums to the game... you dont know how i play but i do know how this game is supposed to work...If you dont want to accept my words of wisdom... so be it. (i like it how the new guy is considered a threat... Vote: MattV Last time i played and was town i went against the rng and it was right :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 01:16:52 You're not a "threat." You're a maf. Let me reiterate; You posted stuff about how the game works. These are called "game mechanics." Doing this is traditionally a mafia move because it gives the appearance that you're trying to be helpful while avoiding giving opinions on other players (and worrying about how to fake opinions of your mafia teammates.) And I do believe that whoever your mafia partners are told you to post about that stuff. They "fed" you these posts to make you look like a townie. And now once you saw my post it bothered you largely and you've gone into defensive mode. That's a new wolf mistake. On top of this, you're trying to redirect the attention to Matt V, someone who hasn't posted yet. That's another wolf mistake. So I think you're a wolf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 01:17:41 wolf = mafia :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X don't want to edit because I'm not a chode |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 01:26:27 You know what... your reminding me of my last game... where i literally self destructed on myself... You and your list makes you suspicious... and how you are going about with all the feeding the noob the lines thread is suspicious is cause that is EXACTLY what the maf would do. ... You do see me as a threat otherwise you wouldnt be targeting me (and ill wake up tommorrow and would be lynched knowing you guys. :P) (p.s. Im not stupid i did do my homework... i just suck at psychology:P) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zarkov on 03/19/11 at 01:31:19 I'm a long way from my pc atm, so il post properly when I'm home. One thing I will add though, fucked if I'm reading any more of Scotts posts. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 01:35:18 You're not being targeted Fank. If you were to pick 3 people who haven't posted yet who might be mafia, who would you pick? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 01:43:19 Before i answer, Based on that Q I would assume that you know how many mafia there are and who is mafia... But to answer your Q... Based on previous experience, homework and personalities... Koopz RDBU and suprsilvr Oh and im not being targeted eh goose? you point me out as mafia... basic survivor knowledge... (or me being paranoid, yeah thats it:P) When someone says its you... your being targeted. Im not going to change my vote yet cause i still believe in the RNG :P (oh and your adding pressure to my TTing :P) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 01:50:34 Cool thanks what I just did was got you to spew. After you're dead, we can look back on that post. If you're a mafia, then we can probably figure out that from the list, there are 1 or 0 mafia, because you're new and you don't want to make a list with all of your teammates on it. If you're a townie, then we can figure that the post is completely random. homework, experience and personalities have nothing to do with the way the mafia randomizer will fall ;) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that in a 22er where the rules leave open the probability of a neutral group or serial killer, that there will probably be 4 or 5 mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 01:53:49 um... Why dont you just vote me already??? if you are so confident im mafia... (again in terms of me im probably putting the noose round my head and killing myself) With everything you say Unvote Vote:MVT just to return the love :D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 01:55:48 Haha, the "just do it!" is another newbie mafia mistake. And you changed votes again. I feel really bad that I've pinned you after only a couple hours. The reason I'm not voting you yet is so that trollagers and trollfia don't come in and cause a majority night, which would shorten the day and give us less information to work with. As a townie, the most important thing is to get as much information as possible. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 01:58:40 I knew 3 posts ago you had me cornered... Well Stupid mafia or useless townie... You were waiting for the vote change... Goose... I would trust you now k. You'll think that this is stupid bullshit but... Im talking from experience... Well A Q to everyone is... Try to get more info or kill the "easy pray"... I suck at mind games. :( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 02:05:30 I'm not trying to get the easy prey. If you watched me as a mafia in the elite/kart game, I was leading lynches on some of the most powerful players, using extremely troll slip ups, facts and quotes from them to "prove" to the townies that they were mafia. I don't go after easy prey as a mafia because I'm too good for that. The difference here is that I'm a townie and I think you're a mafia, so I'll act accordingly. It just so happens that I'm an experienced player who is a townie, and you're a newbie who is maf. Sorry if it looks like I'm picking on easy prey, because I'm not ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:10:41 466E6E726433010 wrote:
Lets comment on this post by paragraph- -True... Light the fuse and block your ears... (like i said i suck at the psychological thing. And i need to play more games with you... or you play poker with me :P) -True that is the best thing for the town... (But dont look for X-1 still look for x) -I knew that... And im safe to say that I would trust your word in who to vote for (i would vote with you (except for me or other townies of course) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:12:25 012929352374460 wrote:
Im so good at what i do... Absolutley brilliant. Well for the townies... i suggest you listen to goose hear and dont vote me off. there are bigger fish to fry. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:16:50 Going from experience... To help the townies :P Due to personal experiences the following people in my opinion would vote for me If they were anti town (this list is due to personal experiences and interaction between other players... i do know a few people here (under construction) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 02:17:13 There are 3 reasons I'm not going full out trying to get you lynched right now. -no one is here -it would be extremely bad to end Day 1 40 hours early -I do think that, because you're a new player, it's possible that you're a townie who is just playing poorly. And if you're a townie, there's a chance that you're a power role like the seer or vigilante, so I'm giving you and the rest of the thread the rest of the day to post before I decide who is our best lynch. But of the people who posted so far, you're the most mafiaey. So that's why I'm asking you questions. [smiley=dankk2.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:20:40 Music to my ears... hey goose... feel like a game of poker... cause i feel that the game of mafia in general is like a game of poker... How you play is depending on what type of cards you have. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zarkov on 03/19/11 at 02:25:49 Well in that case I fold. I'm a fucking wop. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:29:32 Zarkov... You are a funny fella. The title is dead on... (honko could you please change it to light a fuse and watch it burn... sounds more appropriate...:P) Now... Time to stop playing Mafia and start playing poker... What do my oppenenents think i have... What do i think my opponents have... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/19/11 at 02:30:39 Goose and fank trying to out do each other already? Vote: fank009 Random vote for now, still a while left in the day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:35:37 01343032391A3023253423510 wrote:
If i am correct that is NOT a random vote (unless you call random a 99% chance of picking me :P) Theory proved correct??? maybe its just me but... Come on RDBU... You should know me :P anyway... So that MVT doesnt complain... Ill keep his vote on him during the night... I reckon ill find some good funny stuff for my siggy in this game :P) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 02:36:00 *points out discussion between fank & goose* *votes fank* *claims it was random* That's one of the mafiaeyest possible things RESIDENT DRY BONES USER. You better explain yourself. And no Fank, mafia is nothing like poker. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:41:58 To goose... I liken certain things to things i am familiar with and use that mindset. MK is like MK it comes naturally. All im sayin is ... give the poor bugger a chance... Now RDBU seems a big mafia target but to gain respect with the townies i request that neither is voted... either me or RDBU being lynched will help the mafia more than anything as they gain more information about the town than the town does about the mafia... (is that good for you goose :P. You have taught me well in the last 90 mins.) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 02:53:54 I do like how we both found it bizarre that RDBU called his vote "random" when it wasn't. That's definitely some + townie points for you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 02:54:03 What the fuck. Thanks Honko for starting the game while I was asleep. Maybe next time you could start it while we're all trying to get our rest like a mature mod would. Keep up the "great" work. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif] ::) Mention a character: Yoshi. Now I'm going to be gone to a race this morning followed by a wedding and a birthday celebration, so I don't want to hear shit when I come back about being inactive/therefore wolf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 02:54:52 Oh and by the way, I have stuff going on Sunday as well, but I should be able to get on in the morning. If I don't though you can all deal with it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/19/11 at 02:55:01 It was either that or No Lynch, which is a dumb move in a game like this. Eh... Unvote for now then. First day is ever the guess-fest. Gonna still keep an eye on you though. That sounded like you were trying to reveal me... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 02:56:39 Now I'm off. See all you cunts later. Don't do anything stupid while I'm gone. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 02:57:25 N-Stride's first posts sound okay. still not happy about RDBU. It's not like we're 5 minutes away from EOD. You didn't HAVE to vote there, and more certainly you didn't HAVE to say it was random, when it wasn't. So TOWN LEANS -Padzup -Thingy -NStride MAF LEANS -Cam -Fank -RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 02:57:33 Good to see you typing in understandable "English" RDBU. ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 02:59:39 oh yeah that reminds me... a bit off topic... MK character... Fank009 :P if you want a pic just ask :P Anyway back on topic... OK Nstride... ... *fank thinks...* When you say something stupid do you mean like vote someone like me or you off??? :P:P:P anyway... good luck :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 03:01:27 Toad |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 03:07:56 goodnight now. Be good now peoples |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 03:17:57 Zarkov??? you got nothing good to say??? Unvote Vote:Zarkov (p.s. we might see 10 more changes this 1st day :P) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by TvL on 03/19/11 at 03:21:01 My fellow citizens, let's not get overexcited right away. Surely we're all rational human beings? Also, is it really so hard to read the first post carefully and mention a Mario Kart character, like Toad? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 03:23:25 6C505755594B674E74380 wrote:
You know you are talking to someone like me who mvt calls irational :P ANd why is fank009 not a good character choice ??? :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zarkov on 03/19/11 at 03:41:44 I'm posting on a phone fank. Can't be arsed with long posts atm. Koopa Troopa |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/19/11 at 04:54:11 I live to serve and I serve to live. I feel like scrambled Yoshi eggs for breakfast. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 04:59:50 Yo guys. I was waiting until 1 AM for this game to open so I could get a post in, but I got bored/ I go to bed, then wake up and there's three pages ;D. RDBU was town last game, and he's playing just as bad this game. Honestly, I just think he has absolutely no idea what he's doing. Don't know what to get at from the Goose/fank convo so far. Goose is playing like he always does, regardless of town/maf so I have no idea on a lean as of yet. Fank is in his first game, so I don't know his playstyle. I'm going to re-read that 2 page convo and come back with more analysis later. Be back later. Also Heavyweight Mii Outfit B. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/19/11 at 05:30:56 44434C4912121B220 wrote:
And how would you know? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 05:51:35 I just read through the whole thing...haven't played a game with Goose yet, but I heard that you play pretty good no matter which role, so I guess I'll keep neutral about you know until a later point in the game. If I had to put a lean, I'd say Town because it seems like a honest effort, but I won't decide for now. Zark is just playing his normal D1 of posting nothing at all so we can't read much of that either. I don't see why you call NStrides first posts ok Goose, care to explain it for me? Not like they contain much of a value to judge yet, right? Also, it appears strange to me that so many people use Toad to mention their first MK character, that's very suspicious. I will rather chose Peach. About Fank, I'd rather think about him being n00b town. At least he is posting, I'd rather keep alive a "possible" N00b Town which is posting than a "possible" N00b Town player that is not posting at all. I already forgot who else posted so I'll look through everything again [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by RVZ on 03/19/11 at 05:57:08 Just a post for the sake of posting message was send from my wireless IPhone |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 06:01:40 7B5C4C575158584A390 wrote:
Erm, no offense or anything, but what's the point of posting if you don't actually have anything to say? It just seems like that you're trying to look like you are active when you didn't actually say anything. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/19/11 at 06:02:57 You didn't even post a ninty character either... Maf, RVZ? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 06:20:03 67606F6A313138010 wrote:
you think that Padz is Town Vanilla, because Goose said so? Actually, Goose said nothing about Vanilla and anyway, you are supposed to think about things yourself, not just say "xy sais that guy is town, so he is"...that's just useless filler crap if you want to write something, but have no idea what, just as the rest of that post. I may revise my thought of you being N00b Town, seems more mafiaish to me now by reading that post by you. (I didn't quote the whole post, just a passage, think it's on Page 1...or 2? Too lazy to check) TvL, are you Mafia? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by RVZ on 03/19/11 at 06:23:09 5F4D4A4146495C475A191C280 wrote:
Erm, no offense or anything, but what's the point of posting if you don't actually have anything to say? It just seems like that you're trying to look like you are active when you didn't actually say anything.[/quote] Nah, that's too easy. Try something else webinator. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 06:27:19 This fank post struck me as odd. 54535C5902020B320 wrote:
I cut off the post because all I wanted was that part. Fank goes on to talk about possible scenarios after assuming the roles that he just posted. Maybe you can explain. Why are you trying to figure out what roles are in the game when everyone only knows one role (their own), except for mafia, who know each other? I would assume that you'd at least want to see how people word their posts or wait a day for coming out with something like that. It just makes no sense. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 06:27:50 5B5C53560D0D043D0 wrote:
> Next post: "Vote MVT" Nice insight on completely failing to understand the basics of this game, yet knowing what a mafia player will do to stay alive. Fool. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 06:28:37 7D7A75702B2B221B0 wrote:
First: go fuck a sheep) Second: Completely contradictory. Panicking idiot. Fank isn't new to this game, and that "last time i played and was town" more like "now im playing and better through that in there to appear not-maf" copypasta ftw |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 06:28:52 7D5A4A51575E5E4C3F0 wrote:
Erm, no offense or anything, but what's the point of posting if you don't actually have anything to say? It just seems like that you're trying to look like you are active when you didn't actually say anything.[/quote] Nah, that's too easy. Try something else webinator.[/quote] Then why did you make that post. Maybe you can explain? I mean, I could spam up the thread with posts that don't say anything, but that wouldn't really help out the town, would it? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 06:29:27 Fuck. I meant *throw |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by KoopZ on 03/19/11 at 06:29:48 I'm currently out of town and posting from iPod but I at least wanted to make a post and say that I am paying attention and will be keeping up with the thread as much as possible. Either Scott gof hacked or his role demands that he post like a douche. Same with shock. I'm going to go play some Donkey Kong now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 06:32:02 Quote:
Wouldn't want to offend the town now would we? [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 06:33:59 38373D2033352C373D3C3C37590 wrote:
I was trying to word it as politely as possible ;D. Anyway, since you're still around RVZ, what do you think of the posts so far? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by RVZ on 03/19/11 at 06:37:41 Im posting with my Iphone, webinator. Making a good contributing post is not only pretty useless on Day1, It's also a bitch to type on a cellphone. I can't even quote you anymore (post too big) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 06:42:03 654252494F464654270 wrote:
Making contributing posts is useless? That's a lame excuse, I can understand that typing with an Iphone is stupid, but contributing posts are always good, because you can get informations about that player, even if it is D1. That's like saying don't post on D1, which wouldn't help Town at all. Mafia lean on RVZ now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 06:45:14 1A3D2D363039392B580 wrote:
That post sounds really scummy. Don't understand it at all. How is a contributing post useless? I'm done trying to beat this point into the ground though, as I think what's needed to be said was said. Hopefully when you get back to your computer you can tell us what you think of other posts. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 06:45:36 RVZ was killed last game almost entirely because he didn't post enough. ::) Right now though RVZ you might as well not have posted. The contribution would've been about equal. ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 06:47:26 Also get a link for the posting/voting stats in the OP. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by RVZ on 03/19/11 at 07:05:41 All what happens on Day1 is random opinions and stupid accusions. But I have too admit that the posts on day1 can be used on day2 after the NK's. I qas wrong But webinator why do you attack me cuz of my random spam while Zarkov did exactly the same thing 1 page back. Maf buddies? Care to explain me that? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by RVZ on 03/19/11 at 07:08:40 Vote: webinator |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 07:18:40 You dug yourself deeper into a hole by making those posts about D1 meaning nothing, posts meaning nothing which you just tried to correct. Here's the thing. People like KoopZ and Zark said that they had things to do, would be on later and were watching the thread, but you just said that you wanted to post for the "sake of posting". I wouldn't have cared all that much, but after my response to your first post what mainly sent me on a case against you was your 100% fallback defense reaction. Pushing too hard on an early case is never a great idea, so I'll sit back and let other developments happen in this game. Kinda curious to see what fank says when he comes back on though, when he's not responding to a Goose post. Also, for the third (or fourth?) game in a row. Web & Zark = Mafia. Apparently, it's always a known fact. ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by RVZ on 03/19/11 at 07:26:34 Oh I should've said that I'm at work, cuz I am actually. That would've given me the right to post and not contribute, by your logic. BS |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/19/11 at 07:37:45 TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD TOAD 072C2B372A450 wrote:
fank posting fluff / game statistics / filler posts to make him self look like he's contributing. Day 1 isn't the day to try and figure out the entire set up of roles, seen it too many times before and it's such a bad tactic I don't know why people PERSIST on doing it every game. noob town or maf confirmed Scott posting a load of shit aswell, no idea what that was all about. Not going to read a load of extracts from the bible. Still a long time left, preferably get rid of a useless / someone who is likely to confuse town (think about oneshit / themaf last game) Dunno why you're suspicious of RVZ dude. He just posted saying he was here, nothing sus about that. There are still plenty of people who haven't posted, and plenty of people who have posted lots, but when you actually read the posts properly, it's just a load of rubbish. Also he has a fair point, D1 isn't exactly "useless" but it's pretty close since THERE IS NOTHING TO GO OFF OF 90% OF THE TIME. I think it would be fair to say that "out of every day in the game, Day 1 is the least important" which is true. Random vote to get someone talking Vote: SuprSilver "I've played mafia before, just not on this board" You have only made one post so far ... and it was a "how would you know I'm maf?" based on fanks list, a slight defense if you will. Tell me. Why shouldn't I vote for you? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/19/11 at 07:45:19 @Sword: Well, he's ready to accuse almost anyone without any proof. He accused me when I didn't even post at all! That's VERY suspicious... Also, Toad. He's my guy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/19/11 at 08:06:26 Totally Votal Vote Totals [1] fank - MVT, (RDBU) [1] MVT - fank [1] Zarkov - TvL [1] Web - RVZ [1] SuprSilver - Sword [0] MattV - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 38 hours. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/19/11 at 08:18:53 Jesus. Went to bed on the start of the second page, wake up to a load of crap. Fank and Goose both seem mafia to me, though it seems too early for them to have organized that confusing mess, so probably just one of them is. My lean is towards Fank; seems like he's trying too hard. What's with all this "I'm away from a comp so I'm posting from my phone" business? I do remember reading somewhere that RVZ works on Saturdays. Holy crap, I just realized I slept with my contacts on last night. Never done that before. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 08:40:28 427773717A597360667760120 wrote:
Caught my eye right here. Calls the vote "random" when clearly it was a bandwagon. Fank is digging himself a pretty deep grave though, similar to the way flo did that one time he was clueless mafia. Scott's early posts are not like him so it's weird. Trying to fake the troll. Maybe just fucking with Goose. Though it's hard to say right now. I'll give him a momentary pass (since I posted a drunk troll post even though fank is actually as retarded as I thought) and chalk it up to boredom. Hopefully his posts get better. Goose is being a cool guy. Keep it up methinks. Nice cheap shot at me by NStride about out of game moderator matters. Web is trying to hard to pick at garbage. Need a bit of padz in my life. That's all I've gleaned and I'll be very busy throughout the day. I will try and sneak some posts in from time to time. My vote will remain with fank because he seems so scummy as hell just like flo that one game. He goes beyond retarded town. I think he has to be mafia to be that stupid with his posts. If he ends up n00b town he has set a new bar for n00bness above flo and a different guy I can't remember the name from a few games ago. But I think he is probably maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/19/11 at 09:04:08 795E4E55535A5A483B0 wrote:
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Anyway once fank made #23 last night I just had to laugh. No idea how you could even pretend to know what all the roles are when only a few people have posted and there are over 20 people in a game with a totally non-standard setup. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/19/11 at 09:06:47 TvL can I get your past playing experience level? Just wondering if you're new to this or not. Same to J-Cop, don't remember him being in a game with me in the past but I do forget. Just helps to know which people will be posting from an unbiased, new viewpoint on the game and idea of mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zarkov on 03/19/11 at 09:09:14 Where is TvL's post voting for me? I cant find it anywhere. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by TvL on 03/19/11 at 09:12:21 4E637D71767178140 wrote:
Please. What do you think my answer will be? 765D5A465B340 wrote:
??? I haven't voted for anyone yet. Just to be on the safe side: Unvote Damn, I've got a lot of reading to do... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 09:13:40 1A20073B322712143C3C37073B3A3D34530 wrote:
I just looked it up in the signup thread because I was curious myself, J-Cop said that this will be his first game and TvL said that he has played the game in real-life, but not in the internet. And @ Clark can't find it as well, guess things got messed up there. I can only find one post of TvL and that one did not include a vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/19/11 at 09:14:41 oopsy, that was fank who voted for Zarkov Totally Votal Vote Totals [1] fank - MVT, (RDBU) [1] Zarkov - fank [1] Web - RVZ [1] SuprSilver - Sword [0] MVT - (fank) [0] MattV - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 37 hours. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by TvL on 03/19/11 at 09:23:18 516B4C70796C595F77777C4C7071767F180 wrote:
I've never played this game on a forum, but I have in real life, so I do know a thing or two. Where's Ivo? Hiding in the dark? [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zarkov on 03/19/11 at 09:25:34 I think TvL and Zarkov should be given vote immunity for the remainder of Day 1 due to Honko's almighty fuck up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 09:59:29 654E495548270 wrote:
iirc, these guys are the only ones that haven't posted. imo it's not even worth considering them as lynches until the end of the day. Also, it's not worth considering Sportsguy ever due to inactivity since all he does is lurk. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 10:28:00 6B797E75727D68736E2D281C0 wrote:
iirc, these guys are the only ones that haven't posted. imo it's not even worth considering them as lynches until the end of the day. Also, it's not worth considering Sportsguy ever due to inactivity since all he does is lurk. [/quote] What a cop out! :o Web I thought you were smarter than that. Just letting them slide is stupid. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 10:29:02 J-Cop was online a while ago for quiet a time, but he didn't post anything, hope he didn't just forget about the game. If it was intended, I can only see that as "being scared to post", which would rather point me to Mafia than to Town. We'll just have to wait and see what he tells us. I haven't seen the others around yet, it's too early to pin someone for not being active yet anyways. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 10:35:18 1A2B22221A2F222B4E0 wrote:
Actually when you think about it, they'll be modkilled anyway since they didn't include an MK character in one of their posts due to not posting. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 10:45:05 2B393E35323D28332E6D685C0 wrote:
Actually when you think about it, they'll be modkilled anyway since they didn't include an MK character in one of their posts due to not posting. ::) [/quote] Nothing gets done on EOD especially D1. Ideas are usually planted from past days and the voting swings one way or another right away and for the most part stays there in later days. I'd truly consider putting some votes and pressure on the no-posters myself but fank is so obviously moronic and most likely maf that I just can't find a way to remove the vote from him at this point. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 10:55:51 I go to sleep feeling like i made shit happen and i wake up seeing that shit did happen. A lot of reading to do... Ill be back in 5 hrs to be back in the game in terms of talking proper... but i will add 10c or so...(familys going out for a while... cant do much about that :() @MVT... anything i say will be as scummy as hell to you. Period. 29262C3122243D262C2D2D26480 wrote:
First: go fuck a sheep) Second: Completely contradictory. Panicking idiot. Fank isn't new to this game, and that "last time i played and was town" more like "now im playing and better through that in there to appear not-maf" copypasta ftw [/quote] By me being noob i mean to this board. this is my first game in this board k. (and i absolutley love/hate the thinking behind everyones opinions. 0B051B4F0 wrote:
And how would you know? :-?[/quote] (probably a stupid move to answer the Q... These are to be taken in the same idea as a random vote cause that is what they were.) 7567606B6C63766D703336020 wrote:
I cut off the post because all I wanted was that part. Fank goes on to talk about possible scenarios after assuming the roles that he just posted. Maybe you can explain. Why are you trying to figure out what roles are in the game when everyone only knows one role (their own), except for mafia, who know each other? I would assume that you'd at least want to see how people word their posts or wait a day for coming out with something like that. It just makes no sense. [/quote] The numbers are not accurate but you (should) get what i was trying to do... I have no idea what the roles are and the above list is based on assumption... (is as everything else i do in this game.) Seeing how you responded it would be a safe bet to say that you have a role i did not put up. My "list" is not law... Honkos word is law! 42737A7A42777A73160 wrote:
Actually when you think about it, they'll be modkilled anyway since they didn't include an MK character in one of their posts due to not posting. ::) [/quote] Nothing gets done on EOD especially D1. Ideas are usually planted from past days and the voting swings one way or another right away and for the most part stays there in later days. I'd truly consider putting some votes and pressure on the no-posters myself but fank is so obviously moronic and most likely maf that I just can't find a way to remove the vote from him at this point.[/quote] You still love me though dont ya mvt. In terms of lynching the people who havent posted yet... it would depend on what they post as to whether we lynch them or not (same principal for everyone else here) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/19/11 at 11:20:44 656B75210 wrote:
Yeah, I took note that he said "based on previous experience, homework :question and personalities KoopZ hasn't even posted properly yet. So he's basing this entirely off of ... nothing. RDBU is a legitimate point since his vote was quick and the reasoning made no sense. SuprSilver didn't even post so this one was based off of ... nothing. fank doesn't look very good right now, I agree. However I think you missed my question. Based on those who have posted so far,(see list below for those who haven't posted once) what are your leans right now? 2. Darius 5. Ivo 6. J-Cop 8. Matt V 15. Sportsguy My current leans are MVT, Goose and Zwiebel as town. Uncertain on Zarkov, RDBU and Scott. Mafia lean on fank, NStride and Webinator. The rest haven't posted enough or posts haven't been that significant for me to make a basis. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 11:34:26 That last little group of posts by fank confused the heck out of me, because it didn't say much of anything. Why would I care if your role list was right or wrong? It just doesn't make sense to guess on the roles when you have no idea how normal or obscure they could be. Vote: fank It could switch if something else comes up, but nobody else looks worse right now. I gtg work for a bit, I'll be back on in the evening if there's more to discuss. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/19/11 at 12:12:37 I spent time earlier reading peoples' posts, but I didn't stay online long enough to post anything myself. Kart character: Mario |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 12:14:57 Any thoughts about the game now J-Cop besides "fank's maf"? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 12:19:00 086F012D32420 wrote:
Great point. I never would have thought of that. Very inciting! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zarkov on 03/19/11 at 12:19:41 The way web is acusing fank of being 100% mafia is ridiculous and unfounded. You said you were confused by his posts, but then vote him? Obv maf. Also, TvL says he has played this game before but hasnt posted anything of merit yet. Something to hide? And Shock should stop attacking Sword so vehemently. Do you really think anything you have said so far has had any bearing on whats going down? Gonna vote Shock as he said "TOAD" too many times in his post. vote Sword |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/19/11 at 12:22:48 Dk Jr. Well that was some pointless reading of the first 5 pages. @web lol already bringing up my supposed lurking style before i even knew the game had started. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 14:24:22 27252A2A2B2A272825362F440 wrote:
fank has brought up a bunch of points that make no sense, and because of that he's the most suspicious out of people who have posted. I find it really funny that you vote Sword though because he said TOAD too much, and you're accusing my reasoning of being flawed though. Sure hope that's a joke vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/19/11 at 14:28:21 Peach is way better than Toad. Fank reads like a VI to me. A lot of his play is nonsensical and anti-town, but I don't think he'd be drawing this much attention to himself if he was scum. Resident Dry Bones User in post 47 is super-scummy. Random vote on the guy who just happens to be drawing the most heat so far? How convenient. I get a sense of paranoia from NStride's start to the game. He's obviously worried about being a suspect. Suprsilvr also comes across as paranoid in 67, and thus far only seems interested in Fank suspecting her, which looks like potential reactionary scum play. MVT trying to push a case on Fank based on Flo's useless play as mafia is suspect to me. If I remember rightly, Flo freaked out after being put under pressure. Fank's posting has just been a bit mad from the start. I don't understand Web's inconsistency; he complains that RVZ isn't contributing anything to the thread but he's obviously quite happy to not press Sportsguy about it. Then his vote on Fank looks like opportunism and doesn't actually seem to be based on scumtells; as far as I can see, he's just confused by Fank's play. Vote: Webinator Do you think mafia are less likely to make sense than town, Web? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 14:32:34 TOWN LEANS -Padzup -Thingy -NStride -MVT -Zwiebel -RVZ MAF LEANS -Cam -Fank -RDBU Fank's posts today make him look even worse. Not finished fully catching up yet though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 14:36:39 That depends on the caliber of the mafia player, if the mafia is good they'll be able to make sense, and if they're confused(like fank has played so far), then they'll stick out like a sore thumb. I believe fank to be scum for reasons already stated. He's posting a huge amount of theories that are all over the place. He's tried to come up with the lineup of players (which nobody should really have an idea of but mafia at this point). It's also one of his beginning games. Who's to know if he wouldn't draw attention to himself? To me it looks like he responds to almost everything thrown at him, in a sort of wild defense mode. From past games that I've played, Sportsguy waits in the background to post, and nothing can get him to talk. I've seen it in multiple games. It's not worth pressuring him to talk as he's just going to keep playing that way. Can't see where you're getting the inconsistency other than that though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/19/11 at 14:40:13 But Fank was already wild before he was even defending himself, and he continues to post mad theories that have nothing to do with his own defence. What makes him any more likely to be a mafia idiot than a town one? Have you played with RVZ before? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 14:49:30 I guess I can see your point there. Judging from the fact that he's been all over the place, I just assumed he was a paranoid scum. He could just be trying to earn trust from players by being new. Almost every one of his posts seems "off" to me though, and it's practically screaming mafia or town noob. Remembering past games where I've made the same mistake of voting "mafias" that were noob towns, I'll unvote and wait for more input from him. He's easily the worst looking player right now, but looking at it again I guess that doesn't mean he has to be mafia. As for RVZ, I played with him in one previous game iirc, and he was lynched N1 for not posting at all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by TvL on 03/19/11 at 14:49:51 It's really hard to keep up with all these posts! I don't have enough time to digest them all and come up with an appropriate reply. In my experience mafia players tend to talk (or in this case: post) very little or a lot. Which puts both fank and Goose high on my list... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 14:55:33 1D0C392E3A393F281F352E3F30395C0 wrote:
This post is super mafiaey. Tries to direct attention on maf/maf interactions which are probably impossible (I would literally have to have fed Fank every word of those posts and had him cooperate to post them, pretty much having him concede all his participation in the game.) On top of that he points out that several players are MIA today and says we should pay attention to that so he can appear townie. If Camster does turn up mafia, RVZ is probably a townie because I doubt Cam would want to be making excuses for a mafia buddy. I also think there's a chance Cooper is lying about being out today. Just a chance. He is a busy guy and it could be honest, but he's a smart player, so if he's mafia, that's a perfect excuse to get a free pass on day 1. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 14:58:15 6173747F78776279642722160 wrote:
tbh, that unvoting looks like a "I don't want to look suspicious" one...I mean, it is obvious enough that Fank either is completely messy Townie or a pretty bad Mafia, both of it could be. Then Darius puts you under some pressure and you immediately unvote? Not like 1 vote is changing so much at this point anyway... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/19/11 at 14:58:56 06636263520 wrote:
Yeah, I took note that he said "based on previous experience, homework :question and personalities KoopZ hasn't even posted properly yet. So he's basing this entirely off of ... nothing. RDBU is a legitimate point since his vote was quick and the reasoning made no sense. SuprSilver didn't even post so this one was based off of ... nothing. fank doesn't look very good right now, I agree. However I think you missed my question. Based on those who have posted so far,(see list below for those who haven't posted once) what are your leans right now? 2. Darius 5. Ivo 6. J-Cop 8. Matt V 15. Sportsguy My current leans are MVT, Goose and Zwiebel as town. Uncertain on Zarkov, RDBU and Scott. Mafia lean on fank, NStride and Webinator. The rest haven't posted enough or posts haven't been that significant for me to make a basis.[/quote] I actually think it's a bit early to start making lists. You never really understand until day 1 lynch, when you can decide who's really on the bandwagon, who's faking it, and who's denying it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/19/11 at 14:59:38 New Page Votals [2] Web - RVZ, Darius [1] fank - MVT, (RDBU), (Web) [1] Zarkov - fank [1] SuprSilver - Sword [1] Sword - Zarkov [0] MVT - (fank) [0] MattV - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 31 hours. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/19/11 at 15:00:34 I have a really hard time believing that Fank's long post on this thread is not because he woke up and his mafia teammates told him to post a long explanation to appear townie. If no one else does anything stupid I'll probably start to push Fank with about 24 hours left in the day and give him time to talk. As of right now he has to be the most likely mafia, which means he should be the best lynch on Day 1. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 15:02:18 1931312D3B6C5E0 wrote:
I agree, but since he said he'll be back in 2 hours from now, there's still some time to look at some other players...what do you think about Web? You haven't included him in your list last page. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 15:19:19 456073687472010 wrote:
This statement was the one that made the most sense to me. Honestly, there's nothing that could really determine that right now, and since I'm not 100% set on fank, it's not the best idea to vote him. He's still #1 on my suspect list, but the vote was premature for this early in D1, when it's not even half over yet. I didn't unvote because of pressure on me, I unvoted because I understood what he was trying to say and why my vote didn't make as much sense as I thought it did. It of course looks bad, but more needs to happen before my vote goes down on him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/19/11 at 15:25:25 Web: that's exactly why I thought your vote was scummy. It didn't look to me as though you'd put any thought into examining whether Fank's play was town or scum, you just jumped on the wagon. Your response seems to indicate that you really didn't think about this. Was RVZ town when he posted nothing on D1? Suprsilvr: you might claim it's of no use now, but things like lists can be very revealing later in the game. Your refusal to make one makes me think you don't want to commit to any reads. Goose: do you think anything in Fank's explanation gets him town points? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/19/11 at 15:31:40 SuprSilver, don't ever edit your message like that again ... I saw the original, and I think everyone else has a right to see it. What you edited it into is nothing like the original, since there was a list before. These kinda things get people modkilled. I only remember this part: fank - Very, very, very mafia like. I'd prefer it if you reposted what you said before aswell. Once you post something, there is no going back. On an unrelated note unvote Vote: MattV Where is Phat G?!?!?!?!?!?! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 15:34:29 7062656E69667368753633070 wrote:
This statement was the one that made the most sense to me. Honestly, there's nothing that could really determine that right now, and since I'm not 100% set on fank, it's not the best idea to vote him. He's still #1 on my suspect list, but the vote was premature for this early in D1, when it's not even half over yet. I didn't unvote because of pressure on me, I unvoted because I understood what he was trying to say and why my vote didn't make as much sense as I thought it did. It of course looks bad, but more needs to happen before my vote goes down on him. [/quote] how does it feel web? being on the back foot? goose got me via veteran beats noob type scenario. speaking about goose, you fail at geography. a mafia move would be to jump on the web band wagon (if he is innocent, which i believe he is.) but i wont. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/19/11 at 15:38:43 Suprsilvr had a list in that post? Unvote; Vote: Suprsilvr Scum here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 15:38:50 ??? i dont get you guys... nothing i say is going to change your mind whether im mafia or not. im going out again. enjoy yourselves. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 15:39:33 43262726170 wrote:
SuperSilver not much else I can say other than what Sword said. It kinda makes it look like you posted, then one of your maf buds said, "Don't post that" after you already had so you wanted to change it. Only edit for spelling stuff, but it's better not to edit at all. @everyone. It was something like he though I was neutral, but mafiaish. He though fank was maf, Goose was ????, and I think he said MVT town. But I can't remember anything other than that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 15:48:59 @suprsilva you remind me of someone. me town? suprsilva mvt goose darius maf? web zarkov |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 15:49:38 I saw the list as well, so you better repost it, there's no use in hiding information in the first place, only if you are scum. You have to stand in line for what you say, I can't see any other reason for you not to do so. Every peace of information is useful, and by hiding it you're not doing Town any good. I think this makes you even more scummy than fank at the moment, but I want to hear first from you why you did that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 16:02:24 727C62360 wrote:
goose asked for 3 names of those who havent posted at the time the q was asked... what resulted was paranoia. of course i had no grounds... you hadnt posted yet. after seeing your reaction... i have a good understanding about your gameplay. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 16:04:41 53545B5E05050C350 wrote:
How can you say he looks towny after editing his post to get rid of a list of suspects? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/19/11 at 16:08:19 Hmm, come to think of it, I guess I missed the whole point of the list being removed. That does need some explaining. Either way there are still 3 people left to post. Everyone else has said something, even if it is an excuse. Ideally we need to know what we're going to do. Fank is always an option but I think we should give the day it's full, who knows, perhaps he really is playing the idiotic town role to a tee. Zarkov, you do realise in your vote for me you switched my name around with Shocks several times? Completely confusing. Also, nice Toad hating. Enjoy your one way rollercoaster ride to hell when you pass on. Also, fank, town members have nothing to hide. Therefore, Suprsilver would have no reason to delete the list. I would see it more appropriate to make a seperate post saying to discard the list, rather than to completely remove it altogether. Doesn't seem like the most town-like gesture. Would you agree? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/19/11 at 16:09:42 Ugh Ninja'd by Webinator [smiley=chairshot.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 16:13:25 6C7E7972757A6F74692A2F1B0 wrote:
How can you say he looks towny after editing his post to get rid of a list of suspects? [/quote] .. what edit??? ... your so not understanding what im trying to say now. so i will say it clearly... what do you mean by edit?? ill see ya in another few hrs to talk again. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/19/11 at 16:16:15 He posted a list of his leans after I asked him about it. He then completely edited it out saying "It's too early to be making lists". Also, I just realised Goose asked Fank to pick 3 people who haven't posted that might be mafia. What the shit. This means Suprsilver had absolutely no reason to get defensive since Fank pretty much had to guess out of thin air. Things aren't looking too good for Suprsilver right now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 16:16:20 565846120 wrote:
Fank. This post used to have a list of who he thought was suspicious and not suspicious. He changed it to make that list go away with this new message. Yet you make your list saying he looks town. Read over Sword's post now that you know what happened. Does it make sense now? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 16:17:12 There you go Sword. I get a ninja, you get a ninja ;D Might I add yours was by 4 seconds. That's pretty impressive. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 16:19:09 about supr's list. i did not see it if this the list we are talking bout, i have no knowledge of it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 16:21:01 Are you actually reading this thread, fank? Sometimes I think you're living on another planet, not able to understand human beings :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 16:21:42 7260676C6B64716A773431050 wrote:
Fank. This post used to have a list of who he thought was suspicious and not suspicious. He changed it to make that list go away with this new message. Yet you make your list saying he looks town. Read over Sword's post now that you know what happened. Does it make sense now? [/quote] im treating silva the way you treated me- obvius maf. if we have to lynch then sure. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 16:24:09 664B55595E59503C0 wrote:
:P i do read the thread. I cant remember seeing the list. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 16:27:08 Yeah, but we were discussing the list like half an hour ago, and then you're like "what list?" Doesn't make me think you are reading carefully through the thread. I know one can miss some things, but there were quiet some posts that explained it explicit... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 16:30:00 1F322C20272029450 wrote:
I was confused for a while based on what Web said concerning the list and supr being town imo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 16:52:25 Change of plans. Im here indefinatly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/19/11 at 17:10:06 I'll go to sleep now, so I'll vote my prime suspect for the night. I'd like to say that it is Fank, because he is playing really bizarre, but Suprsilver is far more suspicious because of that unneccessary edit of his post, which he tried to hide. I would have liked to here something from him before voting him, guess that'll have to wait until tomorrow for me. Vote: Suprsilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/19/11 at 17:33:36 Alright. I'll clear this up. I did have a list, but then after thinking about it, I was no longer so sure that it was true. I actually edited it several times before thinking that it would be best to disregard it. Here's my original list: Most Mafia-like to least mafia-like. Fank RDBU NStride Web Scott Goose Zarkov MVT Zwiebel Not sure if I remembered it right, but just clearing this up :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 17:37:57 3F383732696960590 wrote:
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/6293465/Dont-read-posts-dont-talk.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Pissed-off-Obama lol at Suprsilver majorly editing his post, then fank placing him at the top of his "towny?" list. Then trying to cop out of it by saying he missed the entire discussion of the edit. Idiocy at its finest. ;D Vote: fank009 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 17:41:43 111F01550 wrote:
What you say needs to stay out there. If you edit "several times" or disregard posts, that's a major changing of the message and will probably get your ass modkilled from this point forward. Read the original post for the love of God and don't be a moron. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/19/11 at 17:43:03 5C53594457514853595858533D0 wrote:
What you say needs to stay out there. If you edit "several times" or disregard posts, that's a major changing of the message and will probably get your ass modkilled from this point forward. Read the original post for the love of God and don't be a moron. [/quote] Yes sir. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/19/11 at 17:58:40 So the pressure is on Suprsilva and fank009 at the moment... I'm also thinking about that RVZ town lean a few pages back. Could be town, could be Maf coverup, who knows... Vote: Suprsilva Editing posts... if he isn't lynched, he might be modkilled. Not cool bro, not cool. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 18:03:30 48474D5043455C474D4C4C47290 wrote:
http://images2.memegenerator.net/ImageMacro/6293465/Dont-read-posts-dont-talk.jpg?imageSize=Medium&generatorName=Pissed-off-Obama lol at Suprsilver majorly editing his post, then fank placing him at the top of his "towny?" list. Then trying to cop out of it by saying he missed the entire discussion of the edit. Idiocy at its finest. ;D Vote: fank009 [/quote] Hes scared. Has been since goose asked the q to me. He has done suspicious things but he will stay on my list cause i think he is scared town. If 5 vote then i would vote for suprsilvr, i trust supr as much as anyone else here. Understand. Oh and thanks for the vote :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 18:04:04 043135373C1F3526203126540 wrote:
Hugely weak post here. You didn't say anything that hadn't already been said. Fank, sorry dude but you're missing a lot of key points when you post, make sure to read carefully so you don't miss anything. SS might get modkilled, but we have to play like he isn't obviously. His error is huge, but fank "defended" him right afterwords claiming not to see it. Vote: fank009 Back and forth, back and forth. I'm sticking with it this time. Honestly he looks really bad now. If you need any more evidence Darius, (which I'm sure you don't) look a few posts up. I'll be around for a few more hours watching NCAA Basketball. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 18:06:03 764347454E6D4754524354260 wrote:
pressure? Im not under pressure. (not compared to last game :D) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 18:06:07 adding to that, even if SS is mafia, fank made a huge mistake trying to defend him, and looks more obvious maf atm. SS's reaction to the next few posts and the way the votes stack up can either save him or cement him imo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 18:09:19 75101110210 wrote:
Oh yeah, about this. So let me get this straight silver... You had a list, then you changed it to this, then you either disregarded or edited it to what it is now? And one more thing. Just want to say that your politically correct attitude hurts my eyes to read Web. ;D "I would vote this, but I might be wrong and look scum later... oh dear me. Let's see how close I can get to appearing to be pushing a case and looking townie without actually doing anything productive.." [smiley=lolk.gif] Edited once to remove the bold unvote and vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 18:11:38 4F5D5A5156594C574A090C380 wrote:
Hugely weak post here. You didn't say anything that hadn't already been said. Fank, sorry dude but you're missing a lot of key points when you post, make sure to read carefully so you don't miss anything. SS might get modkilled, but we have to play like he isn't obviously. His error is huge, but fank "defended" him right afterwords claiming not to see it. Vote: fank009 Back and forth, back and forth. I'm sticking with it this time. Honestly he looks really bad now. If you need any more evidence Darius, (which I'm sure you don't) look a few posts up. I'll be around for a few more hours watching NCAA Basketball.[/quote] Ps. Im not defending him im saying he is playing a scared townie game. Im not saying what he did is right. Right now im on the wii where it is a killer to edit. If what he did is so bad (and it is)... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 18:15:31 ... Unvote Vote:suprsilvr |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 18:16:32 655054565D7E5447415047350 wrote:
I would be quick to say scum here, but you played this kind of thing last game and turned up noob town iirc. :-/ Also Fank, would you like to borrow my shovel to dig yourself a nicer, deeper grave? [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/19/11 at 18:21:20 7E717B6675736A717B7A7A711F0 wrote:
Oh yeah, about this. So let me get this straight silver... You had a list, then you changed it to this, then you either disregarded or edited it to what it is now? And one more thing. Just want to say that your politically correct attitude hurts my eyes to read Web. ;D "I would vote this, but I might be wrong and look scum later... oh dear me. Let's see how close I can get to appearing to be pushing a case and looking townie without actually doing anything productive.." [smiley=lolk.gif] Edited once to remove the bold unvote and vote.[/quote] I edited it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/19/11 at 18:25:45 07626362530 wrote:
Incorrect. It was 2 verys with the last of the two being bold. ;D Not ready to vote yet though... what if what Fank is doing is really a test? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 18:27:22 525D574A595F465D5756565D330 wrote:
I would be quick to say scum here, but you played this kind of thing last game and turned up noob town iirc. :-/ Also Fank, would you like to borrow my shovel to dig yourself a nicer, deeper grave? [smiley=roll.gif][/quote] no i dont need a shovel... i had one already prepared. if this is what you do with my opinion i dont give a shit what you do. even if i do survive to another day phase my opinion is not jack shit to ya. if you want i can spam the thread if you want, but that will hurt the town. i dont want to hurt the town so... what is it nstride. if you care bout the town i suggest you start respecting my uber noobness. and that goes for everyone else that pissed me off. >:( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/19/11 at 18:38:21 4047484D16161F260 wrote:
> Spamming thread? [smiley=flush.gif] The more people talk on Day 1, the better. You'd be surprised by what may seem like spam at first may come back and give town the lynch they need. > I don't want to hurt the town so I suggest you start respecting that I am a complete noob. Wait. Gotta re-read that. You want me to stop pressuring you because you're an "uber noob." You know what? Fine. You have enough evidence against you right now to convict you no matter what you do. Going to bed now/soon. I hope to see a lot more action by the time I wake up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 18:47:13 6D62687566607962686969620C0 wrote:
> Spamming thread? [smiley=flush.gif] The more people talk on Day 1, the better. You'd be surprised by what may seem like spam at first may come back and give town the lynch they need. > I don't want to hurt the town so I suggest you start respecting that I am a complete noob. Wait. Gotta re-read that. You want me to stop pressuring you because you're an "uber noob." You know what? Fine. You have enough evidence against you right now to convict you no matter what you do. Going to bed now/soon. I hope to see a lot more action by the time I wake up.[/quote] you dont get it. it is NOT u voting me im mad of. its the "your doing it wrong" speech i keep getting for validly explaining my reasons. acknowledge it or else this bomb will self destruct. ps by acknowledge i dont want to hear im right. i just want to know my reasoning as to why ss is town is given thought. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/19/11 at 19:11:06 Votals [4] SuprSilver - (Sword), Darius, Zwiebel, RDBU, fank [3] fank - MVT, (RDBU), (Web), NStride, Web [1] Web - RVZ, (Darius) [1] MattV - (fank), Sword [1] Sword - Zarkov [0] Zarkov - (fank) [0] MVT - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 27 hours. NOTE: READ THE DAMN RULES. Anyone removing any info from their posts from this point forward will be immediately modkilled, no exceptions. The same goes for the other rules. This is your final warning, everyone. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 19:13:32 73585F435E310 wrote:
the above post is edited :D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 19:21:44 I need to calm down. For those of you who havent guessed, i am pro town. Just had enough of all the bs everyones been giving me. If anybody wants to talk about town threats id be happy to do so, but im giving you an hr before i self destruct and start spamming. The above message doesnt count if your scum. The choice is yours but it may comeback to hurt ya |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/19/11 at 19:38:40 Okay then. If you're ready to step away from the current fiasco at hand, could you answer this? Who do you think are the 2-3 most suspicious people so far this game (that have posted) and why? Please give solid reasoning. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 19:43:46 3022252E29263328357673470 wrote:
Would it matter to start off. If it does then i wouldnt self destruct. For the most suspicious... ((will be continued next post.)ps wont be able to quote all in one message if its ok |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/19/11 at 19:44:45 Tip: hit Back instead of Post on 30% of your post attempts in the game. Tip2: don't hit Post until you know you mean what you say. Tip3: don't Post if your name is fank, you'll just look retarded. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 20:07:00 Anyway. Fanks picks suprsilver- irrational when accused, also the list isthatagoodtime-troll posts here and there with good town insight. rdbu.(but if i put him up ill have to put web up.) too quick too judge... Quick withdrawal when caught out. No quotes sorry, too much work on the wii. Hope this helps. P.s operation sd is on hold |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 20:10:30 Wait... Add to the list. Goose- he fails at geography (though still has valid arguments.) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 20:27:32 I dont know who to dammwell vote for? You all look suspicious to me. But > will keep the vote for ss unless something else comes up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by KoopZ on 03/19/11 at 20:49:18 4961617D6B3C0E0 wrote:
This post is super mafiaey. Tries to direct attention on maf/maf interactions which are probably impossible (I would literally have to have fed Fank every word of those posts and had him cooperate to post them, pretty much having him concede all his participation in the game.) On top of that he points out that several players are MIA today and says we should pay attention to that so he can appear townie. If Camster does turn up mafia, RVZ is probably a townie because I doubt Cam would want to be making excuses for a mafia buddy. I also think there's a chance Cooper is lying about being out today. Just a chance. He is a busy guy and it could be honest, but he's a smart player, so if he's mafia, that's a perfect excuse to get a free pass on day 1.[/quote] Only making a post to defend the fact that I am out of town, I am posting from my iPod and that I am not able to post properly until I get back in town late tomorrow night. I told robin this before the game even started but that I would still like to be included and I would follow as best I could on day 1. Only read up to page 5 so far. I think fank is just dumb town, but haven't been able to read more than that from anyone else so far. Goose you're also a smart player and could be playing a very trustworthy townie right now. Not outright suspicious of you but judged wanted to say your argument goes both ways. Gonna keep reading and see if I can make another post before going to sleep. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/19/11 at 20:54:34 5156595C07070E370 wrote:
Brilliant play Fank. There is almighty pressure on you and you think a quick person-by-person "analysis" will help you? You're all over the place and either you're a very poor mafia player, or an even worse town member. Either way, you're putting the town in a shitty situation. I hope for the town's sake you're mafia, otherwise they (maf) are laughing at all the attention we're giving you. Your last two posts are equally full of hot air; post something constructive. Suprsilver you're a tool. You clearly have no idea. On page 6 you posted "I actually think it's a bit early to start making lists." in response to Sword and then on page 7 you proceeded to make your own list ("Most Mafia-like to least mafia-like."). What changed in that short time? Did you grow some balls or did you completely forget the former post? Nothing wrong with lists if they have genuine reasoning, but lists for the sake of lists or for the illusion of contribution are not applicable and aren't going to help the game. At RBDU - try posting without using ... all the time. You seem indecisive which isn't an attribute the town needs. Read the posts. Spot inconsistencies. Analyse... (lol) My head is definitely spinning and I need to go to bed. In a bizzle x |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by KoopZ on 03/19/11 at 21:11:11 Ok just a quickie before I go to bed. I stand by what I said about fank being dumb town and not mafia. Silvr is definitely sus for the whole editing thing but I'm not going to vote him (yet). Goose and MVT are at their usual arguing best. Scott's trolling is the only thing confusing me at the moment. I know in a previous post he said he's just trying something different, but in previous games I've seen and/or been in, "something different" is a mafia trying to cover himself for anything weird he might do (see: Howes in pokemafia). So he's the only one I've really got my eye on for the time being. I fucking hate posting from my iPod. Took way too long to write all this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 21:13:54 6E6467647A641D0 wrote:
Brilliant play Fank. There is almighty pressure on you and you think a quick person-by-person "analysis" will help you? You're all over the place and either you're a very poor mafia player, or an even worse town member. Either way, you're putting the town in a shitty situation. I hope for the town's sake you're mafia, otherwise they (maf) are laughing at all the attention we're giving you. Your last two posts are equally full of hot air; post something constructive. Suprsilver you're a tool. You clearly have no idea. On page 6 you posted "I actually think it's a bit early to start making lists." in response to Sword and then on page 7 you proceeded to make your own list ("Most Mafia-like to least mafia-like."). What changed in that short time? Did you grow some balls or did you completely forget the former post? Nothing wrong with lists if they have genuine reasoning, but lists for the sake of lists or for the illusion of contribution are not applicable and aren't going to help the game. At RBDU - try posting without using ... all the time. You seem indecisive which isn't an attribute the town needs. Read the posts. Spot inconsistencies. Analyse... (lol) My head is definitely spinning and I need to go to bed. In a bizzle x[/quote] I was calm. Everything i say. "too good for a noob must be mafia" is the response i hear. if you had worries bout me playing you should not have said it was allright for me to play. if you think all this attention is bad? find someone else to direct it too! why would i care bout town? because im pro town. before i lost it with nstride... thats how i should be seen as a player. the emotion road trip was personal. do what ya damm well want. i dont give a stuff. but the longer you spend on me... the worse the town is going to be. in otherwords if you have doubts drop it and move on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by padz on 03/19/11 at 21:56:07 6D4545594F182A0 wrote:
didnt stop jimbo [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/19/11 at 22:09:05 Lol Koopz, you say you're worried about how I'm playing in every single game we're together. Maybe it's because I don't start off the same way every time? (Or ever?) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 23:24:34 2B2C23267D7D744D0 wrote:
Ya you are really PRO fank! :o [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif] Also Suprslivers post is dildos because it doesn't even include all the players and gives no reasoning whatsoever as to why it is ordered in such a a way. I think maf or IDIOT. So it's down to RDBU, FANK, OR SSUPRSLIVER FOR ME! Who is the worst? :D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 23:29:48 and also J-COP is absolutely pathetic. He makes one post telling us that he is making a post then does NOTHING!!!! NOTHING AT ALL!!! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE COMPLETE AND UTTER PIECE OF SHIT J-COP IS! I HATE HIM AS A PLAYER RIGHT NOW! WHAT IS THE POINT OF HIM PLAYING IF HE MAKES A POST SAYING "HEY SORRY I COULDNT POST NOW I AM POSTING!" and then just walks away never to return or post. What a cocksucking big mouthing peice of motherfucking shit- j-cop is! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 23:30:46 of all the quotes you chose that one mvt??? still feeling the love mvt??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 23:38:05 787F70752E2E271E0 wrote:
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YU FANK AND I HOPE U DIE IN THE GAME AND PROSPER IN UR LIFETIME! http://images.free-extras.com/pics/b/broken_heart_emo-1500.jpg |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 23:40:17 you dont geu the sarcasm? should have added smileys:P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/19/11 at 23:47:00 For convo. If we work on the current 3 we have, we'll be screwed. Any ideas who else might be mafia? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/19/11 at 23:47:31 3F383732696960590 wrote:
DIEEEEEE MUTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!!! [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] U IWLLL DIE. UR FRIEND J-COP WILL DIE. UR FRIEND RDBU WILL DIE. STUPID DECISIONS SHALL PERISH. THAT IS MY TESTIMENT. THAT IS MY COMMANIDING! GOODNIGHT! [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 00:03:58 well... I reckon i need a bold move to last a day phase... So to make this clear in my opinion Town Leans MVT Darius Koopz Padz Maf Leans RDBU Isthatagoodtime Its Personal now. Nstride Web (no offence...) ??? WTH are these guys SuprSilver Other Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/20/11 at 01:25:45 Right, I don't know what other people are reading, but Suprsilvr made a post and then completely changed it to contradict the original post. Everyone stop and think about that for a moment instead of just saying 'hey, don't do it again'. Suprsilvr: why did you write the list in the first place if you don't think lists are a good idea? If you actually didn't think lists were a good idea on D1, surely you wouldn't have had the instinct to post one? Web: how does Fank missing the list make him a better lynch than Suprsilvr? Do you think they are mafia together? Fank: why are you voting Suprsilvr when you think he's town? Really don't like Koopz's contributions so far. He seems to be trying to have it both ways with Goose by saying he looks like town but he could be mafia, which is just an empty statement. I've heard the 'Scott's weird posting is sus' tune before too and it's an easy way to post without really analysing much at all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/20/11 at 01:26:02 48797070487D70791C0 wrote:
If you're the only one who openly complains about me not posting much, then I'll continue to not post much [smiley=beer.gif] Most of the time I'd just be posting something that's not worth reading, so I find it best to stay quiet. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 01:34:05 0227342F3335460 wrote:
read my recent post... I dont know what to do with him... hence he is in a category on his own. On a side note the "Its Personal" section are safe from me casting the 1st vote against them... Like i said its personal and the stuff of the town should not get in the way or be gotten in the way be personal matters. And J-cop... I must say WHAT THE FANK??? It is best for the Maf to stay quiet??? are you Maf or are you on the bandwagon of stupid townie??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/20/11 at 01:42:18 197E103C23530 wrote:
If you're the only one who openly complains about me not posting much, then I'll continue to not post much [smiley=beer.gif] Most of the time I'd just be posting something that's not worth reading, so I find it best to stay quiet.[/quote] This is me complaining about you not posting much. Fank: that still doesn't make sense. If you don't know what to do with him, why are you voting for him? Why aren't you voting for one of your mafia reads? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 01:46:47 654053485452210 wrote:
Since i have a target on my head i need to vote where the numbers are... Voting for someone on my list will raise suspicion/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/20/11 at 01:53:20 You haven't played this very much, have you? Is it your first game? If not, can you tell me where else you've played? Examples would be good. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 01:58:18 on second thought... you may have a point Darius... But at the moment.... TOO MUCH MIND GAMES If I change my vote people will think im Maf... If i Dont People will think im Maf... THERE IS NO END TO THIS BULL SHIT :( So Should have done Something that Fank would do not a scared little townie noob would do. UNVOTE Vote:isitagoodtime Reasoning... Troll posts at the start and elsewhere... Got good insight and opinion to help the town... Easy to hide the fact that he's scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 02:01:37 0D283B203C3A490 wrote:
Know the concept... havent played many forum games... 1st game here on the boards. ... im a bit hazy to give it... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/20/11 at 02:17:59 And you saying that your lynch would be bad for townies could easily be a Maf cover-up too. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 02:18:57 :(... Too much Scum remaining silent :(... well thats what i gather anyway. WHO WANTS SOME STATS??? 204posts in this game i have made 53ish... :O 25% of the talking :O You guys are quiet... (or i talk too much) Well to everyone that wants a convo its 11:20(ish so goose dosent catch me out :P)PM here and ill soon be heading off to the land of nod... Take care (though i may still post in between now and actually going to nod) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 02:25:33 10252123280B2132342532400 wrote:
See what your doing... I don't win... as we end the day a fank lynch may be good for the townies... stupid noob townie talk too much. But Lynching me is also bad for the town on the premise that we havent learnt much... (And are you contributing much RDBU??? (wait might have to recheck posts :P) What we need is to determine who is dead wait and all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/20/11 at 02:31:09 Take it from me, Fank, you are talking too much. The above from RDBU is just lazy mud-slinging with no analytical value, like Koopz's 'hey, Goose looks town but he could be mafia!' style comment, and he gets some nice scumpoints from me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Ivootjes on 03/20/11 at 03:17:21 Ah, havn't been online in a while, 9 pages already. I'll read then soon. Not much time right now Also koopa troopa |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 03:24:55 12181B180618610 wrote:
This post is random as fuck. ------ 4052555E59564358450603370 wrote:
Erm, no offense or anything, but what's the point of posting if you don't actually have anything to say? It just seems like that you're trying to look like you are active when you didn't actually say anything.[/quote] Agreed. +1 web, -1 RVZ ------ 6C4B5B40464F4F5D2E0 wrote:
One failure of an explanation. ------ 606E70240 wrote:
Ridic here. Suprsilver appears 1 second after whoever made the post above him made some arguments about him being a mafia. Being absent from the thread and then quick to defend yourself as soon as you are mentioned is super mafiaey. -1 suprsilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 03:35:42 1C392A312D2B580 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 03:40:23 Alright caught up Here are my impressions on players. Most of these are tone reads because it's still D1 with no deaths and there are a low amount of posts. more townie than average MVT N-Stride Padz RVZ Scott Tim (post 183 is quite townie in particular) Thewebinator Zwiebel more mafiaey than average Cam Darius TheFank RDBU Suprsilver This leaves Ivo J-Cop Koopz Matt V Sportsguy Sword TVL I don't think Zwiebel/TheFank can ever both be mafia, based on their interactions around pages 5-6. There are a few other combinations I don't think are possible with TheFank but I have to look more into that. It should be TheFank or Suprsilver today for our lynch anyways. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 04:30:57 412648647B0B0 wrote:
This is me complaining as well. I don't tend to post a great deal in mafia games but when I do I try to make them count. Some people have high post counts because they feel it's the right way to play/their style/are Fank but the important point is constructive contribution. Your posts don't have to be long but at least contain some sort of value that might be of use. Right now it seems that either a) you're "scared" of saying something out of line or b) you just have a very strange style of play. If you like to "sit back and analyse" then wouldn't it be good to let us know what you pick up from people? Are you just trying to keep the heat off yourself? You're not doing yourself any favours right now. @ Goose, that post was simply to show that I'm in the game and am going to be active. I was about to have scrambled eggs so it seemed only natural my ninty character of choice was Yoshi. ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 05:03:24 092C3F24383E4D0 wrote:
Here's my reasoning. Although SuperSilver made that atrocious edit, fank was quick to jump to his defense with out much reasoning or an idea of what is going on. Right now (in my opinion) looking at the next few posts that SuperSilver made, he appears to be not really trying to cover up what he did with some ridiculous scheme, or any type of backing away from what he did. It looks to me like he's just accepting the fact that he really, truly screwed up (which seems slightly townish). That doesn't put him off my radar entirely, but I think fank is a better lynch now. Fank has continued to be inconsistent, to the point where he doesn't even think that SS's actions are all that bad. If Fank turns up mafia, for putting SuperSilver down as town I think SS goes back into the limelight and is a huge case for being a mafia member. My opinion on Fank's vote is that he's trying to move along with the wagon as to not look suspicious, but at the same time trying to defend his maf buddy SuperSilver in order to try and get him saved. Trying to do both of those at the same time is making him look really wishy-washy, and that's why I think he's scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/20/11 at 07:43:16 75127C504F3F0 wrote:
If you're the only one who openly complains about me not posting much, then I'll continue to not post much [smiley=beer.gif] Most of the time I'd just be posting something that's not worth reading, so I find it best to stay quiet.[/quote] I'll continue not to post much? What kind of a town attitude is that How is everyone not reading this? This is basically A DIRECT RIP of Shock from his first game. "I'm new to this so I'm just gonna sit back and analyse rather than contribute at all". What did Shock flip in that game? MAFIA. "I find it best to stay quiet because what I have to say has already been said" such a scummy pov. Seriously. You even said in the signup topic that you've watched a few games and you know how it's played, so you don't have an excuse! Plus if you have intentions on getting a free pass and not helping then you are either a) not town or b) have no will to help town, which makes you unwanted anyway. Unvote Vote: J-Cop Explain this horseshit immediately. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 08:18:37 Somehow I missed that "If you're the only one who doesn't approve of me posting much" J-Cop post. I'm sure nobody (except the mafia) approves of your currently posting style. It is never a good idea not to post. Especially when you do post and say absolutely nothing. Do you have any input? Anything to add to the table at all? It just sounds to me like you said "I dare you to pressure me" in that post to MVT. I want to hear you talk though. One thing to keep in mind. Everyone has fank, SuperSilver, and now J-Cop looking kind of bad. However in my opinion it's really really hard for the mafia to screw up that badly and lose three members in one day. Although one of these three is most likely the best D1 lynch, check for people trying to pass under the radar through the day, making a random fluff post here and there, not really wanting to throw any of these three under the bus. That's where the rest of the mafia is imo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/20/11 at 08:23:10 The only explanation I can give is that I'm still new to this, so I'm still not sure how I even could help the town. Iirc, I said I've read the rules to the game, but I don't recall saying I've watched the game before. Either way, I'm still learning as we go. If I posted everything that came to mind, I'd probably just make things worse for myself. Once I have a more solid grasp of what's going on, I'll start talking more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by TvL on 03/20/11 at 08:26:07 Wow. I had plans to examine the posts in more detail, but the number of posts is simply overwhelming! :-/ Suprsilver made a bad move, but does that make him mafia? He probably feared that his list would make him suspect, but then again, don't we all fear that we make ourselves suspect, citizen and mafia alike? (I really hope I didn't defend someone from the mafia just now) Fank is not making a good impression. If he's not mafia, he's not a very trustworthy citizen. But if he's mafia, would it be worth killing him? I'm not sure whom to lynch yet, but I do know that statistically speaking it's best for the town to kill someone. I will have to make up my mind in a few hours, cause I won't be online during the final hours of the vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 08:26:54 That makes it look like you're waiting out the day for a lynch to happen, since you have no idea how to post without looking bad compared to the current suspects at hand. You're unsure of how to word your current posts because either fank or SuperSilver are one of your maf buddies, and don't want to expose the both of you. That's what it's looking like to me. You have to have some type of analysis or idea of who your suspects are and why, and if you don't, you really shouldn't be playing. @J-Cop ofc |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/20/11 at 08:29:25 J-Cop Post #1 096E002C33430 wrote:
J-Cop Post #2 0B6C022E31410 wrote:
This goes beyond stupid. It's just completely and utterly retarded. Sorry that you have no idea how to play the game but I don't even consider this to be you playing to win. It's to the point where it is such bad gameplay that it might be violating the game rules and Honko might have to step in. You should DEFINITELY start posting some contributions J-Cop! Or I will vote for you over fank. No matter how retarded fank is and how scummy he looks. At least he is trying to play. You aren't. Therefore you should die by lynch, unless Honko sees it fit to modkill you himself. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/20/11 at 08:40:03 3321262D2A25302B367570440 wrote:
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I am a fucking prophet! Oh J-Crap posted again. What a surprise he again said nothing. Unless it is apart of a role handicap to not ever say anything productive, then this is a joke. He hasn't hinted at that so it seems to be by free choice. UNFORTUNATELY, I can only vote for 1 person. I wish all 3 of these players would die. I don't quite understand the suprsilver situation and what exactly went down so I'll leave him to spare. If he is that poor to have already made that big of a blunder he's bound to slip up again. Unless he just goes dead silent then he's obv maf. Fank is senseless and probably mafia, but may reveal more stuff if we let him keep blabbering on so I'll spare him (similar to what TVL said). Unvote Vote J-Cop |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/20/11 at 08:47:40 One person who caught my eye the most is Supersilver. He broke a rule by editing out his list, and I can't think of a reason why he would've done that. He said it's still too early to make lists, but that could be an easy coverup for trying to hide something, and if he's townie, I can't think of what he'd be trying to hide, so it looked kinda strange to me. Fank is the other person who is standing out to me. He seems to be desperately trying to clear his name whenever someone says something about him. To me, I feel like he's being too defensive sometimes, and that makes him a suspect. I want to see what else he does before I make a vote. I'll most likely vote one of these two, but I haven't decided which one yet. Everyone else is clear of my vote for now, but this could change depending on what else goes on today. That's as much input as I can give for now. If that gets me killed, so be it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/20/11 at 09:01:40 690E604C53230 wrote:
Pretty much brought no ideas of your own to the table. My vote remains. You are playing it so safe and conservatively as to not slip up its pathetic man. What a joke. I encourage others to vote the same. Out of the 3 stooges this one is the most dangerous to get rid of first because he is trying to be so sneaky and undercover. It's a fake act though. Many mafia have played like this in the past. I think he is maf and maybe a maf with a good power role at that! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 09:12:23 Vote: J-Cop If being new to this is going cause this much confusion then you can't remain in the game. Sorry that you're new to it but even as a tentative town member it doesn't take huge brainpower to at least show decent involvement. Your last post was a bit of a (J) cop out as it was repetition of other points which isn't bad in itself but given your position it simply looks half arsed and a last resort. From my viewpoint this lynch has good odds because I believe it's more likely that you're mafia than town. Being mafia in your first game is tough and suggests your lack of posting/content. Unless someone else screams mafia my vote will remain for day 1. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 09:28:58 My ideas on Fanky Panky: If he's really this n00b of a player and is scum, he's bound to out a few of his companions in the first couple days. If he shuts up suddenly and only posts a couple times tomorrow, he's probably been told to do so by his teammates. If I had anyone like that on my team I'd probably have to type out every post for them to simply copy/paste. If he's just a moron town (Flolololol) sure he's not helping us but at least it's easy to get him to vote for whoever town's top target is on any given day. He's very active and not afraid to vote for anyone. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/20/11 at 09:29:24 Votals [3] J-Cop - Sword, MVT, Tim [3] SuprSilver - (Sword), Darius, Zwiebel, RDBU, (fank) [2] fank - (MVT), (RDBU), (Web), NStride, Web [1] Scott - fank [1] Web - RVZ, (Darius) [1] Sword - Zarkov [0] MattV - (fank), (Sword) [0] Zarkov - (fank) [0] MVT - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 13 hours. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 09:29:51 J-Copper: Okay, sure you might feel like you're best off sitting back and not saying much in your everyday life, but in this game you HAVE TO speak. As long as what you say comes naturally people will generally get the idea that you're telling the truth and not trying to manipulate the sheep from a position of power. It's your very first game so I'm not going to be as hard on you as a couple others here are, but those first few posts were totally stupid. 686261627C621B0 wrote:
;) There are several people who pull off the minimal post thing quite well. Sportsguy is always the first to come to mind. Half his posts are no longer than a line or two, but he's almost always got an opinion or idea in them. On the other hand people like Goose (and me) prefer to fill the thread with posts. As a town player this is always great, because mafia tend (really strongly in past Kart games) to be super quiet. It's tough to pop out 100 posts/day as a mafia member and not put some of your own team in the wrong light. As a mafia it's way easier to just sit back and comment on the irrelevant sides of the game, like which of two town players seems like a better lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 09:35:49 MVT: Wanna go after people like Matt V, Ivo, Cam, Padz, etc who have just as few posts as J-Cop? Could be a rookie mistake from him but someone like Ivo gets pretty easily believed when he slides in with a post like his "oh look" since he's got a good reputation in these games. Sportsguy: One post so far? You're killin me man! Even if you are glued to the NCAA tournament on TV you should be able to glance through these posts during the halftime shows. Goose: Which player would you LEAST like to have to deal with tomorrow? Based on anything from annoyance to "i know he's maf" |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 09:36:54 Triple posting Honko to his grave: Screw you for snagging the first post of the page, I had all those posts ready beforehand but you made it in the 40 second window where I was locked out. Good luck next time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/20/11 at 09:37:52 The reason why I didn't list everyone on the list is because like Sword said, not everyone posted, and I didn't want to include myself or Sword, who I was replying to. Plus I only wanted Sword to know of what I thought of the people he listed. NEW list (in order from scummiest to towniest, only for those I have paid attention to their posts): J-Cop (Scummy as hell, if he survives dayround 1, cop should investigate, and no I don't mean you by your username) Fank (Very mafiaey, like J-cop, cop should probably investigate if he makes it through this round) RDBU (Mafia-like behavior) Web (Neutral, leaning towards Mafia) Goose (Null read) Isthatagoodtime (Null read) KoopZ (Neutral, slightly leaning towards Town) NStride (Neutral, but leaning towards Town) Darius (Town-ish?) TvL (According to his posts he seems pro-town, can't be completely sure though.) Zwiebel (Probably pro-town) Padz (Probably pro-town) MVT (Obvious town) Tim (Obvious town) Vote: J-cop |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 09:40:47 Superstar: How old are you? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/20/11 at 09:52:14 @IsThatAGoodTime: If you're talking to me, although I'm not sure you are, I am 12 years old :P One of the youngest on the forum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/20/11 at 09:53:26 Supersilver- I find it amusing that you waited until now to post another list and that you put me at the top of it. To me, it seems like you were just waiting for someone else to get a few votes so you could call them scummy and save yourself. It could be an honest list, but I'm not buying into it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 09:56:43 767866320 wrote:
At least three people have said it, and maybe even more. But THIS NEEDS REASONING!!!!! I could say fank is mafia, MVT is town because I say so, but it's not going to get anywhere. The list doesn't help anyone because if you're mafia all you're doing is hurting yourself. Could you please give some reason why you think these people are these roles? You have an opinion on everyone. So it's destructive to your mafia friends to put them in a neutral or non-neutral state. Just saying you're not looking good. As bad as J-Cop looks right now, fank will tell us MUCH more, so I'm keeping my vote on him for the forseeable future. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 09:59:14 I'll throw in my opinion about this as well. And the most important thing for me is: Don't be afraid to post. You're not playing to survive yourself, but to win as a whole team. In my first game, I didn't really post much, only when put under pressure. Why? Because I thought I would make myself suspicious if I said something wrong. Now I know that that is the wrong way to approach it. Just post whatever crosses your mind, even if it's something really small or something that pinned your attention, especially if it's something others have not mentioned yet. There might be other ways to play, but that's how I do it. You might get put under pressure by that, but so what? Even if you get lynched for it, at least you put out your opinion and the more you have posted, the more we can get out of your lynch. I'm honest with you, I would say you're more likely Town, since you remind me of my first game. So I would advise you to look back at the whole thread and don't just look at those who are already suspicious, but also at those which are not under pressure at the moment. Everything can help, and we need to work together to win. You have acted scummy so far, but I want to give you the chances to clear it up. About the standings today, I think it's clear that it has to be either J-Cop, Fank or Suprsilver. I want to give J-Cop another chance for the reasons stated above, so it is between Fank and Supr. I'll think about it for some more time, not really decided yet. I'd like to hear some more from both of them (yes, even Fank [smiley=lolk.gif]), my vote will stay on Suprsilver for that time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 09:59:43 One more person I would look out for is Cam. He's posted nothing really and is normally very active. I can't remember if he said he would be away, but I remember he's always active, and also normally the only guy who actually makes good lists with reasoning. His play seems so quiet that he's trying to slip under the radar. Slight maf lean. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 10:04:37 Lots of posts to catch up on. Reading them now, I'll post my thoughts shortly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 10:08:34 667473787F70657E632025110 wrote:
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5 minutes after he addresses you to be inactive you show up? Could be random...not that suspicious but I'm interested in what you have to say later. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 10:09:11 0312273024272136012B30212E27420 wrote:
I'm glad you posted Cam because I was just looking back at your "contributions". Have you only just got here or are you scared Web just called you out? Why haven't you put in the effort you speak of so far? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 10:26:35 Sorry for being so late. Lots of fluff to read through... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 10:35:23 Wario. Still reading through. Although I'm tempted to vote for Scott because his penis pic on page 1 made me want to throw up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/20/11 at 10:40:14 2B4C220E11610 wrote:
Now you're trying to direct the attention off of yourself then explaining why you legitimately thought you were going to get away by just sitting on the sidelines pulling a Shock. ::) Either way Suprsilvers list is very benefitial. If he flips mafia then we know he's outright defending some of his teammates in his list. Why did you only want me to see the list, Suprsilver? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 10:46:02 Posting my thoughts as I read through. Darius: I'm liking his posts so far. The heat is on Fank and Supersilver and he's watching how others are reacting to this and pressuring THEM. Tonwnish. fank009: There's not much to say. He's posting wildly, spending so much time addressing every single allegation against him. A true townie would address some allegations and move on and actually be a townie by analyzing other people's posts, not constantly defending himself. My immediate hunch is to call him mafia, but I'm not familiar with his playstyle, he could just be a very poor townie, and we've certainly had that kind of thing happen before. Mafiaish. Goose: One of the first to call out fank and his nonsense. I really like how he continues to pressure people, not just the bandwagon votes. He gets people to talk, and that's important. Townish. Ivootjes: Has barely said anything. Nothing to glean from. Mafiaish for now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/20/11 at 10:46:20 64010001300 wrote:
Now you're trying to direct the attention off of yourself then explaining why you legitimately thought you were going to get away by just sitting on the sidelines pulling a Shock. ::) Either way Suprsilvers list is very benefitial. If he flips mafia then we know he's outright defending some of his teammates in his list. Why did you only want me to see the list, Suprsilver? I'm curious.[/quote] Bad grammar. I meant that I only listed the people on your list originally. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 10:57:24 J-Cop: "I spent time earlier reading peoples' posts, but I didn't stay online long enough to post anything myself." What the heck is this? His first post is in defense of himself? HIs second post is even worse. Worst two first-posts I've ever seen in a mafia game. He's had time to make posts to defend himself, why can't he make a contribution to the thread? Very mafiaish, more so than fank or supersilvr imo. Koopz: His posts seem unnecessarily conservative. But he says he's out of town, so I'll give him that. I'd like to see more of him on day 2. A lot more. Unsure. Matt V: Hasn't posted anything. Mafiaish until he contributes. MVT: Posting very aggressive, but he's actively looking for mafia, not just jumping on the bandwagon. He's the first to discover the atrocity of J-Cop's posts. Very townish. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/20/11 at 11:00:47 Why would you completely remove it though? Surely your instinct would have told you to make a seperate post with the remaining people you didn't say ... See, we're either looking to hard into this or there was a reason behind removing the list in the first place. The latter is much more fesible. Was it just a noobish mistake or was he actually worried about what he wrote on the list? Maybe a mafia member told him that his post was bad so he immediately removed it thinking noone would notice. The thing that bothers me is, had I not called out that you edited it, you wouldn't have reposted what you said at all. I'm still very skeptical of J-Cop. What he said with MVT was so anti-town, I can't actually believe it. Why would a town player say that, the fuck. My vote stays for now. MattV more like PhatG. You think Scott is mafia because he posted a picture of a cock? This must make Zarkov mafia since he is a cock. /sarcasm |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Suprsilver on 03/20/11 at 11:03:07 593C3D3C0D0 wrote:
I think I've said this before. I haven't really paid attention to the posts before so I was uncertain and decided to wait until I got better knowledge of what was going on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 11:07:25 NStride: Barely has contributed anything. The heat was already on Fank when NStride was pressuring him. I want to see more from him. Mafiaish. Padz: I didn't expect this from Padz. He hasn't posted squat, despite the fact that he has a post on page 8! Plenty has happened by them, wtf. Mafia RDBU: "So the pressure is on Suprsilva and fank009 at the moment..." Thanks captain obvious! This about sums up all his posts. Mafia. RVZ: Two posts on pages 1 and 2. No other contribution. Mafiaish until we hear more from him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 11:13:05 You don't sound convinced in your posts Cam, and what is stopping you from making one post rather than multiple posts? Not like you're writing essays or anything... I'm not liking what you're doing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/20/11 at 11:19:42 5243766175767067507A61707F76130 wrote:
Looks like you've been MIA from Mafia games for a while. Padz always plays like this on Day 1. His alliance will become alot clearer on Day 2. RDBU doesn't know what he's doing, but this is obvious. RVZ doesn't seem to care that much just yet. Shock is being very interesting however. Don't know if it's in his role restriction to act like a bastard or if he's just trying a new playstyle. I will be watching him closely, however. I also agree with Tim. Alot of what you're posting is obvious and doesn't need to be said. I know you're going to respond with "this is my playstyle and I'm not going to change it, it makes it easier for me to know where I am with everybody" but I thought I'd mention it anyway. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 11:24:04 7B7172716F71080 wrote:
I'll finish it all in one post then if you think it'll be easier. I'm still reading through. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by TvL on 03/20/11 at 11:28:30 I decided to make a chronology of the votes so far: Page Voter Voted for 2 MVT (fank) fank (Matt V) fank (MVT) RDBU (fank) 3 RDBU - fank (Zarkov) 4 RVZ Web Sword (Suprsilver) 5 Web (fank) Zarkov Sword Darius (Web) Web (-) 6 Sword (Matt V) Darius Suprsilver 7 Zwiebel Suprsilver NStride fank RDBU Suprsilver Web fank fank (Suprsilver) 9 fank Scott Sword J-Cop MVT J-Cop Tim J-Cop 10 Suprsilver J-Cop Still no action from Sportsguy and Ivo, that's annoying. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/20/11 at 11:39:30 5A4B7E697D7E786F58726978777E1B0 wrote:
I didn't intend for that to be a personal defense. Some of the players were making lists of who had/hadn't posted yet. I didn't want them to think I wasn't paying attention to the game, so I made a post intending to tell people that I was following the topic. 6B0E0F0E3F0 wrote:
It was more of an anit-MVT thing than anti-town. I interpreted his post as a personal attack towards me, so I responded by basically saying "fuck you" to him. I realized it was a bad thing to say shortly after, and if I could delete the post I would have, but once it's there, it's there. Cam didnt' directly say it, but I'm sure he's planning on voting for me, and Sword has clearly stated his decision. Whether you two still vote for me or not is up to you, I just wanted to explain those 2 things first. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 11:51:49 2C3E3932353A2F34296A6F5B0 wrote:
Here's my reasoning. Although SuperSilver made that atrocious edit, fank was quick to jump to his defense with out much reasoning or an idea of what is going on. Right now (in my opinion) looking at the next few posts that SuperSilver made, he appears to be not really trying to cover up what he did with some ridiculous scheme, or any type of backing away from what he did. It looks to me like he's just accepting the fact that he really, truly screwed up (which seems slightly townish). That doesn't put him off my radar entirely, but I think fank is a better lynch now. Fank has continued to be inconsistent, to the point where he doesn't even think that SS's actions are all that bad. If Fank turns up mafia, for putting SuperSilver down as town I think SS goes back into the limelight and is a huge case for being a mafia member. My opinion on Fank's vote is that he's trying to move along with the wagon as to not look suspicious, but at the same time trying to defend his maf buddy SuperSilver in order to try and get him saved. Trying to do both of those at the same time is making him look really wishy-washy, and that's why I think he's scum. [/quote] May i say im in this mess cause i dont understand english properly:P (i do but like "the list" scenario it can get confusing.) When you are talking bout Suprs list that aws fine but when you Questioned me after i made a list... Thats when i got confused... 6669637E6D6B726963626269070 wrote:
1st off... the order of the town list was random... SS was the 1st name that came to mind. To be Clear. Apart from the list... The Reason why SS was on my town list was that he was doing a bad job trying to get the target of his back... If he was mafia he would have dug a bigger hole (which he has) Web... PLEASE Read The Whole damm thing... Me Bandwaggoning??? Obviously you missed my whole reasoning of why scott was maf and then voted for him... Anyone else say anything or do anything about scott? 6173747F78776279642722160 wrote:
Are you doing that web??? Next post... 697B7C77707F6A716C2F2A1E0 wrote:
Nope still talking bout us... Dont talk ideas unless you are going to do them... And again 392B2C27202F3A213C7F7A4E0 wrote:
Its still personal so im not going to put a lean on you yet. Now about other things... 555B45110 wrote:
No real reasons... just opinion... The thing that gets me is the cop should investigate... Why would the cop bother with me??? If im right if i survive today i might get killed at night. (vig shot if anything) If you do survive the day You want to make sure that someone doesnt learn the truth... so your sending the cop in another direction. Very scummy in my opinion so im changing my thoughts bout ya Town Leans MVT Darius Koopz Padz Maf Leans RDBU Isthatagoodtime SuprSilver J-cop Its Personal now. Nstride Web [/quote] This is MY opinion and is My View point for the time being. J-Cop on The Maf list... Stupid posts at the beginning and not much talking. nothing much from me for now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 12:02:33 Back for a while. What the fuck with all the lists! [smiley=roll.gif] They'll be useful for later days I guess and hindsight for when people flip, but enough already with the tomfoolery! It's time to pressure some people and see how they react. (+1 for Tim) Web, I don't get you at all. You've been quick it seems to hop on when someone makes a good case against a player, but I haven't seen much originality from you. You speak when spoken to, and right now you're not even in the most recent 15 posts. As town you tend to be much more active. Care to explain this erratic behavior? ::) J-Cop is an interesting case. He's playing much like I did when I first started though, and I flipped town doctor. He could have a power role, but just doesn't know how to play it. He's not the best day 1 lynch; I say let's give him a little bit more of a chance to get used to the game and perhaps explain himself. fank, your spam was interesting. I call "spamming" of this sort a town move, and you go ahead and do it. Mafia? I'm not so sure anymore. I think as a mafia member AND being relatively new to the game, I would have had a hard time making those "contributions." (Productive at least to your eyes I guess.) Don't even think I'm complimenting you though: those were totally worthless. [smiley=roll.gif] You're still high on my list of people I want dead.[smiley=lolk.gif] Anyway, that's what I think so far. No more thoughts on people or I would be worthy of the title hypocrite! (List post) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 12:03:42 Unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 12:07:10 IsThatAGoodTime: Not counting the superfluous trolling in the beginning, he hasn't contributed much until page 10, despite being here throughout the game. While I agree with that he's said so far, I want to see more from him. Unsure. Sportsguy: I don't care if his "style" as a townie is to lurk and not post much, it's still very mafiaish no matter how decisive his analysis is. Unnecessary confusion imo is something mafia should be doing, not town. No contribution despite a post on page 5. Mafiaish. Suprsilver: Honestly, as retarded as it is making a list and then editing it out, I'm still not sure whether he's dumb town or mafia. I'm not sure it's a good idea to rid of him just yet. The same can be said for others, but I'm only giving Supersilver an exception because of the way he posts elsewhere on the board. However, it would be very advantageous for him if he actually attempted to contribute something, very soon. S[ch969][ch959]rd: Is very active and has good contributions. I get a strong town vibe from him. Very good catch with the post editing of Supersilver. Town. Timothy: Same thing as Sword. Not much else to say. I agree with everything he's said so far, and I get no mafia vibes from him. Town. thewebinator: I don't quite agree with his reasoning behind unvoting fank on page 5. Conceting like that seems mafiaish to me. If you are a townie and have a hunch that someone is mafia, stick with your guns, make the risk, and keep up the pressure. I also don't like how he says we shouldn't bother considering certain players just becaue they're posting style lends them to not contribute much. Everyone is sus in this game, not a single person should go unscathed. Mafiaish. TvL: He seems to be playing devil's advocate a bit too much. He's here posting, but not much is really being said. Yeah, there's a lot to read, but you can't use that as an excuse for very long. Mafiaish until we see more from him. Zarkov: Haven't seen him since page 5. Maybe one post of contribution? I'd like to see more from him, since this seems reminiscent of his usual posting on the board. Mafia until I see more. Zwiebel: He's been active throughout the day, and I agree with most of everything he's said. He's calling people out, not just focusing on the bandwagon votes. Town. So at the moment, my biggest mafia lead is J-Cop. Fank and Supersilver made dumb mistakes, but I think J-Cop's play is by far the most sus. My biggest town leads are Goose, Sword, and Zwiebel. However, we still got nine hours left, and we still have some people who haven't contributed anything. Vote: Ivootjes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:22:25 1203362135363027103A21303F36530 wrote:
This is a retarded reason to call MVT town (not saying he isn't). Everyone who knows what they're doing knew how bad those posts were. Being the first to point it out just means he happened to be the first person with a brain online. If fank had said the same thing would you be awarding him for his A+ detective work? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 12:23:14 6E616B7665637A616B6A6A610F0 wrote:
How can you say I haven't brought new ideas to the table when you've done really nothing except watch? I brought the idea of Cam to the table, have questioned players on their playstyle the whole game, and came up with several theories. Pisses me off when I'm trying to help the town and you have a smirk on your face looking at everyone. I wasn't in the last 15 posts? I've been posting actively the whole game, and the past two hours I was watching a movie (Unstoppable, if you must know). You have posted nothing, calling me out is just ludicrous. You're looking more and more like mafia by the second. Huge jump on my former neutral lean for you. As for what Cam's said, it's been really useless. Nothing new whatsoever, normally his lists have merit but right now they aren't saying anything that people haven't brought up. Cam looks very scummy right now. He also brought up the really small point about me saying Sportsguy didn't talk, which I believed was his playstyle. If I'm wrong, go ahead and show me, but he hasn't posted more than once or twice yet. Fank I'm still re-reading what you said and trying to figure it out, so I'll have a response for you soon. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 12:24:26 before I go up and write a response to fank, may I say that Cam's vote on Ivo is useless. It's like taking the easy way out, picking a player who hasn't said anything when there are easily better players to pressure. Ivo isn't here right now, so focus on what's happening right now as opposed to waiting for Ivo to get back. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:25:30 7E6F5A4D595A5C4B7C564D5C535A3F0 wrote:
I totally agree. It's day 1 and my care level is about 0.0001 for most of it because it's just a load of 12 year olds arguing back and forth while MVT and Goose push them on. Most of the stuff isn't really worth commenting too much on until tomorrow or later. What benefit is there to me if I make 4 posts between pages 3 and 8 about how stupid it was for Suprsilver to edit out a list or "I'm going to bed now" or "I'm on my ipod check back later" or anything like that. Also pages build up when you don't read the thread in an 8 hour span. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 12:25:30 79436458514471775F5F546458595E57300 wrote:
I would least like to deal with thefank tomorrow. I've seen the case on J-Cop and it is pretty mafiaey. Suprsilver of course is a reasonable lynch, but based on the way thefank has acted; his fear, his uncertainty, his trolling when cornered, is most indicative of mafia. Suprsilver and J-Cop are still at the point where they could just be idiotic town, while I don't think that's longer possible from thefank. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 12:26:09 69537448415461674F4F447448494E47200 wrote:
This is a retarded reason to call MVT town (not saying he isn't). Everyone who knows what they're doing knew how bad those posts were. Being the first to point it out just means he happened to be the first person with a brain online. If fank had said the same thing would you be awarding him for his A+ detective work?[/quote] :P Fanks Reason Why MVT is town... MVT's game so far- get rid of the idiots... It is better for the mafia to keep the idiots cause they will attract more attention... MVT=Townie. A+:P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:27:26 1507000B0C03160D105356620 wrote:
What idea was that? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 12:30:51 vote: fank009 ATTN: TOWNIES TOWN SEER - peek Camster toight TOWN VIGILANTE - kill Suprsilver or J-Cop TOWN ANGEL - save whoever you want as long as it's not Suprsilver or J-Cop. Goose/MVT/Thingy/Zwiebel are good angels. Not sure of any other obvious roles we might have in a 22er but there's my advice on the night actions. [smiley=dankk2.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:31:36 Angels or angles, lol |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 12:35:29 Oh would you look at that. Speaking when spoken to! Then adding something "constructive" at the end along with another post to stay active. How cute. ;D I'll leave you for now though Web. I gotta make sure the whole town hates me. [smiley=happy.gif] Zarkov, when you're done masturbating I would appreciate a post from you. You made no sense in your last bout. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 12:36:02 Directed at Fank First, Scott shouldn't be in focus right now. It's either you, J-Cop or SuprSilver pretty much for the D1 lynch, and considering other options really isn't possible at the moment, because it would require dropping the case at hand. My Quote 6173747F78776279642722160 wrote:
Your response Quote:
~~I just made some analysis on Cam which I've expanded on. I don't think anything else needs to be said. Next post... 697B7C77707F6A716C2F2A1E0 wrote:
Your response Quote:
I'm voting you right now because you look the most suspicious, and will tell the most about the town. And again 392B2C27202F3A213C7F7A4E0 wrote:
You will tell us much more. J-Cop hasn't done much so far other than be conservative. SuprSilver has his list. You've dropped more names than anyone else in this game, and your affiliation should open a huge amount of light for us. Sorry I don't understand what you mean by "It's Personal". Is that mean you can't decide on a lean? You've used it a couple of times so I wasn't really sure of the purpose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 12:39:03 5F65427E77625751797972427E7F7871160 wrote:
What idea was that?[/quote] That he looked horribly suspicious compared to past games, then he shows up and posts straight fluff. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 12:41:16 645E79454C596C6A424249794544434A2D0 wrote:
The point was that it was original detective work, as opposed to bandwagon detective work. 392B2C27202F3A213C7F7A4E0 wrote:
We still have 9 hours left. Do you think J-Cop, Fank, or Supersilver need any more pressure? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:41:30 293B3C37303F2A312C6F6A5E0 wrote:
What idea was that?[/quote] That he looked horribly suspicious compared to past games, then he shows up and posts straight fluff.[/quote] Okay, but you weren't the first to suggest it and even if you were it's nothing to brag about. You've named almost everyone so far. Bragging about being "the first" to do anything is dumb in situations like this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:42:32 4E5F6A7D696A6C7B4C667D6C636A0F0 wrote:
The point was that it was original detective work, as opposed to bandwagon detective work. [/quote] So you're saying no one else noticed that? It's a fast-paced situation still here with so many players alive and so many posts. He doesn't get any special credit for an observation like that. Same thing I'm telling Web right now... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 12:43:23 To The Webinator. Speaking bout lists i only have opinions on 10 people... less than half the field If we are going to focus on the here and now... J-cop would be my lynch vote... cant vote for myself and suprsilver has made more contribution. (either directly or indirectly) Now with the "its personal" business... Right now my thoughts concerning your role are more hot air than anything... So im going to stay out of it. K. if you have a problem bout that just ask. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 12:52:12 To Goose: Opinion [ch8800] Fact |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:52:52 Quote:
Lurkers much? RVZ and Zwiebel were on there 15 minutes ago too :) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:53:36 Which Mario Kart character was chosen most? Did all the mafia pick the same one? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 12:54:10 43795E626B7E4B4D65656E5E6263646D0A0 wrote:
??? Is that a mod only function scott??? may i say... that is Not cricket. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 12:55:07 0E34132F26330600282823132F2E2920470 wrote:
? Good idea I think the Charachter picked the most was Toad Norton :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:56:28 Lol fank. You were supposed to see it and say "but almost everyone on that list has posted within the last half hour or so, what's your point" :'( RVZ/Zwiebel were the main reason I was bringing it up. Everyone else is around and posting but those two are (were) around and not posting. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 12:58:26 34333C3962626B520 wrote:
? Good idea I think the Charachter picked the most was Toad Norton :P[/quote] Fixed my quote for you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 13:00:45 4C76516D647144426A6A61516D6C6B62050 wrote:
-*insert witty remark here* -that is a good point... what is up with RVZ??? it aint too hard on a phone too post (its more of an arse on the wii :P) About Zwiebel not posting... he has made some good contributions... something tells me he is reading. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 13:03:27 It's pointless to prod people because they're lurking at this point, it's just nice to sometimes record who is/was around so a week from now we can see a general trend that player X has been pulling the same stunt every day and only posting when called upon. Sometimes instead of just saving the "members viewing" list for myself I plop it into the thread so all the people who don't have that ability get a taste of who's lurking. All this information only has real value later on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 13:03:47 073D1A262F3A0F0921212A1A262720294E0 wrote:
I think you missed the fact that Timothy, Goose, J-Cop and Camster aren't posting either ;D If you want to know, I'm playing FF VI atm and just looking in here sometimes, I'll catch up later with everything or when I see something that's pinning my attention when I read it. Not really anything interesting going on anyway besides the normal Fank crap ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 13:04:32 123A3A263067550 wrote:
Wait what? Assuming J-Cop survives the day, wouldn't it actually be a good idea to angel him? His play is conservative, and he's very much holding back. He's either mafia or a power role towny. Considering anybody could be mafia at this point, wouldn't that be a decent move as doctor? Take that a little further. You are a smart player, so why say that? You mafia wanting to make sure you get the J-Cop kill? Also, don't be inactive faggots people! If you're towny, you should be wanting to make at least 5 posts by the end of the day, so the town can have some material to think about later on. If you end up looking like scum, oh well! The game won't go down the drain with your potential death, so be active already! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] Modified once to remove bold "vote" and add this footnote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 13:06:58 fank I believe at this point to be noob town. Suprsilver isn't actively responding like a mafia player would feel obliged to do. J-Cop I think has a power role. Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/20/11 at 13:10:25 Votals [4] J-Cop - Sword, MVT, Tim, SuprSilver [3] SuprSilver - (Sword), Darius, Zwiebel, RDBU, (fank) [2] fank - (MVT), (RDBU), (Web), (NStride), Web, Goose [1] Goose - NStride [1] Ivo - Cam [1] Scott - fank [1] Web - RVZ, (Darius) [1] Sword - Zarkov [0] MattV - (fank), (Sword) [0] Zarkov - (fank) [0] MVT - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 9 hours (exactly 11:00pm Pacific). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 13:11:18 030C061B080E170C0607070C620 wrote:
Wait what? Assuming J-Cop survives the day, wouldn't it actually be a good idea to angel him? His play is conservative, and he's very much holding back. He's either mafia or a power role towny. Considering anybody could be mafia at this point, wouldn't that be a decent move as doctor? Take that a little further. You are a smart player, so why say that? You mafia wanting to make sure you get the J-Cop kill? Also, don't be inactive faggots people! If you're towny, you should be wanting to make at least 5 posts by the end of the day, so the town can have some material to think about later on. If you end up looking like scum, oh well! The game won't go down the drain with your potential death, so be active already! [smiley=thumbdown.gif] Modified once to remove bold "vote" and add this footnote.[/quote] Lol Shock. Are you trolling? J-Cop has a better chance of being Mafia than most other people because of what he said/was doing. I still think he might be Town because of the things I mentioned earlier(dunno where, probably page 10 or something), but as a doctor I would chose someone that would be killed by Mafia most likely. Who would that be? I'm sure they wouldn't kill anyone that is suspected to be Mafia. J-Cop has strong suspicions on him, so saving him would probably be pretty useless...also Shock, talking about power roles at this state isn't really a help for Town. Not like Mafia would want them dead, right? ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 13:15:54 Town Leans MVT Darius Koopz Padz Nstride (finally someone who gets a hint :P) Maf Leans RDBU SuprSilver J-cop Goose. Its Personal now. Web I want to return the favour goose. Duck Duck UNVOTE Vote:Goose * Runs :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 13:23:24 69445A5651565F330 wrote:
It's because of his behavior that J-Cop should be peaked, and I would say not vigilante'd. If J-Cop isn't mafia, he sticks out like a sore thumb as a power role. As a mafia player, I would leave it to the vigilante(s) to kill him by suggesting it and adding more evidence against him. Precisely what goose has done. Then I would go and kill someone not on the list of people I suggested as good peeks (Tim). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 13:25:08 That is, good *angels. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 13:29:41 Either way, I gtg. I think it's interesting though Zwiebel that you were so quick to try to "kill" the case against Goose. It's been noted. Be back in a couple hours. I leave you with this advice: "Don't do anything stupid! Playing well > playing bad." (Cheap shot at alkatron ;D) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 13:31:01 No comment because you're ruining an epic strat. It's like you stole every mario kart 64 cartridge in the world and removed the rainbow road shortcut. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 13:34:51 As I said earlier Shock: Posting about power roles at this point is not good for us. J-Cop clearly isn't looking as a power role, not much more than everyone else. I dont think we should examine this more closely and discuss about that, but it's clear that someone, who seems much more likely town, is a much better Angel in my opinion. I can see your point, but I would think it over one time again, Shock. Also I can't see Goose looking any Mafia-like by that post, are you trying to save your Mafia buddy Fank from a lynch? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 13:37:51 for one, J-Cop hasn't left any "peeks." For the mafia noobs out there, this is when someone randomly says "I am 100% sure that XXXX is a villager." I'm not sure if the seer was given a random Night 0 peek, but in a lot of games they are. Anyways, J-Cop has done NOTHING to show that he's a power role at all. By your theory, ALL power roles are quiet on day one. Well if they didn't want to get mafia killed, then why wouldn't they speak up a bit during the day to make it seem like they're not power roles? That's how the whole game works. You can very rarely tell anything based on quantity of posts. ANYONE could be town seer/angel/vigilante right now. Fank could be the seer, Suprsilver could be the angel and Matt V could be the vig. We don't have the information right now. Quit being a retard before I lead a lynch on you Day 2. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 13:38:13 5479676B6C6B620E0 wrote:
...about goose being mafia like??? Have a look at page 1 and read onwards... thats where i get my thoughts about goose from. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 13:45:17 What did Goose do on Page 1 that makes him look Mafia? Fank, your posts make no sense, you could at least explain what the fuck you're telling us. If you could give me some examples or anything, but you just throw a name in the convo from someone else and then say YEAH YOU'RE MAFIA I KNOW THAT. I'm really thinking about lynching you just to get rid of your posts, I don't really care if you're Town or Mafia anymore. With your stupid actions you're just helping Mafia and add confusion to this...man, I can't stand that anymore. unvote Vote fank009 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/20/11 at 13:46:34 07600E223D4D0 wrote:
I didn't intend for that to be a personal defense. Some of the players were making lists of who had/hadn't posted yet. I didn't want them to think I wasn't paying attention to the game, so I made a post intending to tell people that I was following the topic. 6B0E0F0E3F0 wrote:
It was more of an anit-MVT thing than anti-town. I interpreted his post as a personal attack towards me, so I responded by basically saying "fuck you" to him. I realized it was a bad thing to say shortly after, and if I could delete the post I would have, but once it's there, it's there. Cam didnt' directly say it, but I'm sure he's planning on voting for me, and Sword has clearly stated his decision. Whether you two still vote for me or not is up to you, I just wanted to explain those 2 things first.[/quote] The problem is that you are still not contributing ANYTHING of your own. That is the real issue here. Not whether you like me or not. To be a town player (or at least a decent one) you must provide analysis. Please do so...ASAP. 19230438312411173F3F340438393E37500 wrote:
Sure I am willing to go after pretty much anyone at this point. [smiley=evil.gif] 767866320 wrote:
Look at this dumby axing his mafia friend J-Cop! I guess the 3 stooges (fank, j-cop, supr) gotta take a desperate stand against one of their own to survive! ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by RVZ on 03/20/11 at 13:49:33 PARA TROOPA J-Cop def scum Unvote Vote: J-Cop I'm off again and lurking some more |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by TvL on 03/20/11 at 13:50:48 Of all the things I've read, this sentence looks most suspicious to me: 7C1B755946360 wrote:
That doesn't sound like something an innocent would say. Vote: J-Cop That's it from me for day one. I have to admit I didn't contribute much, but I'm normally not the type to make wild accusations. I like to analyze, and I like to do it well; however, that requires a lot of time, which I didn't have this weekend. I'll try to be more "impulsive" in the future. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 13:51:56 anyways THE FANK009 is the best lynch right now the thread seems to agree that fank/suprsilver/jcop are all good lynches, and I can agree The problem I have is that if fank is a townie, he's already caused so much confusion and problems that it's unrepairable. Even if he somehow gets seer peek cleared, he's still effectively useless as a townie because his ideas are so confused, and he gets emotional. On the other hand, suprsilver and J-Cop's reputations aren't so worrying. THey've shown something in the thread remotely resembling sapient intelligence. I think on the chance they're villagers, they are more likely to help than fank is. So assuming the odds of those three being mafia are all similar, we should go with fank, since he is the smallest loss if he turns out to be a villager. Also, there are a LOT of people who haven't pushed fank for a lynch strangely. We can get a lot of information based off his lynch. J-Cop is mutually agreed upon as being weird and having retarded 2 posts. Whereas fank has been the topic of discussion ALL DAY so looking into the people who ignored talking about him would be worthwhile if we know if he's town or mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 13:52:34 59746A6661666F030 wrote:
??? are people so incompetent to do some reading round here (who would want to read 60 odd fank posts? :P) Town Leans MVT Darius Koopz Padz Nstride (finally someone who gets a hint ) Zwiebel Maf Leans RDBU SuprSilver J-cop Goose. Its Personal now. Web REASON WHY GOOSE IS MAF... All throughout day 1 his intentions have been Vote Fank. Nothing was going to change his mind... In fact he has been encouraging the votes to an extent... A maf strat could be to pick someone vunerable and make them keel over... And that has exactly happened. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 13:55:36 7255455E58515143300 wrote:
Yeah and everyone jumps on me for calling bull when you didn't post anything in the beginning of the day. This type of play looks really bad, and looks like a safe bandwagon in order to stay off the radar. I'm still watching you RVZ. Anyway, I have to go on a run and eat dinner. I'll be on in a few hours to talk EOD and voting, but I'll be going to bed probably 1 or 2 hours before EOD. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 13:58:11 Anyone who has played or read the elite/kart game know that I do not go after the weak prey. On Day 1 I led the lynch on drag when drag/Jimbo/Vitor were the 3 bandwagons. Drag is the most intelligent of the 3 and was the one the least amount of people wanted lynched, yet I pulled it off. On Day 3 I picked Thiradell out of nowhere to lynch when everyone in the thread had 10 better ideas to lynch. I just took all his posts and made them look like they were mafia. People were still wanting to lynch Jimbo and Wheat, my mafia partners, as well as several other villagers. Point is, I don't go after the weak villagers as a mafia player because that makes me look like a mafia, and I'm way better than that. I'm going after you... ... ... BECAUSE ... ... I'm a villager and I think there's a good chance you're mafia. And if you're not mafia, you're not going to ever help the town. So you're the best lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 13:58:33 4F484742191910290 wrote:
??? are people so incompetent to do some reading round here (who would want to read 60 odd fank posts? :P) Town Leans MVT Darius Koopz Padz Nstride (finally someone who gets a hint ) Zwiebel Maf Leans RDBU SuprSilver J-cop Goose. Its Personal now. Web REASON WHY GOOSE IS MAF... All throughout day 1 his intentions have been Vote Fank. Nothing was going to change his mind... In fact he has been encouraging the votes to an extent... A maf strat could be to pick someone vunerable and make them keel over... And that has exactly happened. [/quote] I won't even answer to that, and I won't take my vote off you if you don't offer me at least SOME good analysis on anyone. And even then, I probably will not take my vote off you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 14:02:36 1830302C3A6D5F0 wrote:
Here we go... -We'll start with me being emotional... Thats something i cant help. -I know my posts can be confusing... But do i add something useful to the conversation? sometimes... -Now With me being the smallest loss??? If the three of us are noob townies... Who has helped the most??? SS has been dodgy and untrustworthy cause he states opinion and does not back anything up. -Reason why people havent pushed for a Fank lynch, a) they dont want to listen to you. b) they think fank is a good person to stay round another night. Those are just ideas but i dont know what people think (except you, you want me gone.) The Reason why i have been the topic of discussion??? 1) You started it. 2) i cant keep my mouth shut. 3) when i am off the radar you come back and say how we must be cautious of fank. 4) I still cant keep my mouth shut. Goose... do me a favour. Actually THINK. Opinion [ch8800] Fact Opinion: Goose Thinks Fank's Maf Fact: Goose Wants fank lynched |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 14:03:42 0A22223E287F4D0 wrote:
Same to you goose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 14:05:02 1A37292522252C400 wrote:
Are you going to Listen??? Then it is a waste of time trying to convince you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 14:05:35 Saying a villager Goose will not help the village win, is like saying Rafael Nadal will not help Spain win the Davis Cup. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 14:08:46 This is a Q bout Rep now... (unless J-dog is really that fishy) Trust a Noob or trust a pro... either way its not going to end great for the Town. Oh yeah... goose... I want HARD PROOF... as to what information a Fank lynch will give. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 14:09:18 Hard proof on Day1, I lol'd hard. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 14:10:37 5E736D61666168040 wrote:
Shouldnt be that hard... you have 60 odd posts to deal with... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/20/11 at 14:11:44 I'm quite torn between the 3 stooges (fank, supr, j-cop) to be honest. J-Cop has repeatedly refused to address any of my concerns though and doesn't seem to be bothered by voting pressure or respond to it. So I'm going to keep the heat on him. I got a vibe that he is a maf power. I agree with whoever said he might be a power role. I think maf power though really. He's just being an asshole and refusing to answer any concerns. I just can't remove my vote from him now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 14:12:51 It will give this; IF FANK IS A MAFIA we can look at the list of people who hadn't posted yet who you think are mafia, and know from that those 3 people are probably not mafia. New mafias very rarely include other mafia members on their lists. IF FANK IS TOWN we can see who didn't go after your lynch today. Usually, mafia members AVOID going after the easy mislynch when it is there, because they don't want to look like they helped push it. The people who aren't pushing you today are more likely to be mafia than town, IF you are town as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 14:17:45 240C0C100651630 wrote:
Where? If they were townies capable of helpful posts, we'd have examples of that by now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 14:23:42 When the time comes for it, I'll most likely vote for J-Cop, unless he posts something amazing in the next few hours. RVZ not helping himself with his useless vote post. TvL, I hope to see more from you tomorrow. I get this feeling that you're afraid to commit to anything, and that's sus to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/20/11 at 14:26:28 vote: fank009 This should go without saying at this point :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 14:31:55 7E19775B44340 wrote:
^no You do have to say something... people think your scum and just voting for someone else who is suspected scum to save your own hiny will put to the town that you are scum. You need to say something to convinve the town on who to vote for. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/20/11 at 14:42:26 5E39577B64140 wrote:
I think this nails the coffin shut. Completely ignorant. Just wow. The difference is Goose - J-Cop has shown no interest in helping out and even stated "I haven't watched any games so this is my first" as his excuse. This is either due to lazyness (why would you sign up in the first place? :-/) or because he's paranoid about making mistakes therefore chooses to sit on the fence and watch. Shock, I apologise for getting it wrong. I confused two of the games. Let's assume J-Cop is a town power. You honestly think "Fuck yea, I'm the fucking doctor, I don't have to contribute shit yo coz I'm the doc" is an attitude worth keeping? Quite frankly if he's a town power then that is embarrassing and shameful. I have a much bigger hunch on J-Cop right now. Sadly, that's all there is to go off of Day 1. Sure, fank is all up the walls, and his posts are hard to read, and they are 90% emotion and 10% motion, but I have a feeling he's honestly just completely lost. As you said about Suprsilver and J-Cop being more senseful, therefore more useful to keep around, you're forgetting if they're mafia. fank would be a much less asset to the mafia team then say, J-Cop, or Suprsilver. Don't get me wrong, fank is really weird in my eyes at the moment. But I think there are better options. Plus, J-Cop's vote on fank ; to me, desperate attempt to drive off all attention so is going for the next highest lynch. Something's not right here ... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by J-Cop on 03/20/11 at 14:46:07 I think it's obvious now that it's either you or me, and I can't vote for myself. It may seem like bandwagoning for me to pick you, but it's one of few things I can still do to try and stay alive. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 14:51:03 J-Cop, you're not helping yourself here. If it's obvious to you that it's either you or Fank, you'd think you'd be trying a bit harder. If you were a townie. But if you're mafia, it makes sense that you'd be saying very little, because you know that once you are lynched everything you say will be scrutinized, and you might accidentally reveal too much. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 14:51:28 323D372A393F263D3736363D530 wrote:
It's because of his behavior that J-Cop should be peaked, and I would say not vigilante'd. If J-Cop isn't mafia, he sticks out like a sore thumb as a power role. As a mafia player, I would leave it to the vigilante(s) to kill him by suggesting it and adding more evidence against him. Precisely what goose has done. Then I would go and kill someone not on the list of people I suggested as good peeks (Tim). [/quote] Care to explain why I'm a good peek? That would be such a waste, Cam is a much better option tbh. @ Fank, saying opinion =/= fact is so irrelevant. You can never be sure who has what role at this stage so opinions are all we have. As long as the opinions have a basis then if they're wrong at least the town has learnt something. You still don't have valid points and are still not helping yourself. Also I think RVZ was just taking the piss in his last post. I don't like that he hasn't posted much but if he has been busy I can understand that that might be where the frustration has come from. I don't think he's particularly suspicious. Just to let you know I'm not lurking, I just left my laptop on while this was open while I went to next door's flat. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 14:52:04 Yeah fine unvote vote: J-Cop that appearance and vote is just too ridic |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 14:54:42 I'd like to get a vote count |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 14:57:13 I think its 6 for jcop and 3 for me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/20/11 at 15:01:06 Votals [7] J-Cop - Sword, MVT, Tim, SuprSilver, RVZ, TvL, Goose [3] fank - (MVT), (RDBU), (Web), (NStride), Web, (Goose), Zwiebel, J-Cop [2] SuprSilver - (Sword), Darius, (Zwiebel), RDBU, (fank) [2] Goose - NStride, fank [1] Ivo - Cam [1] Sword - Zarkov [0] Web - (RVZ), (Darius) [0] Scott - (fank) [0] MattV - (fank), (Sword) [0] Zarkov - (fank) [0] MVT - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 7 hours (exactly 11:00pm Pacific). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 15:06:26 Thanks Honko. Just wanted to make sure J-Cop was more than a vote or two away from a lynch. We still have 7 hours left. I think we have what we need on the three biggest leads. But we still have some here who haven't contributed anything. Ivo, RDBU, Zarkov, Padz, etc. I want to hear from them before this day ends. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 15:10:07 1203362135363027103A21303F36530 wrote:
Just in case you land the final blow right? [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 15:25:04 747E7D7E607E070 wrote:
Just in case you land the final blow right? [smiley=roll.gif][/quote] lol. Yes, like a true townie ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 15:30:43 2B2122213F21580 wrote:
As I said in the next post, that was a typo. I meant a good angel/doctor move. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/20/11 at 15:51:37 I still want Suprsilvr lynched. The motivation behind changing that post just screams scum. Now he's even gone and made another list? The inconsistency in his attitude tells me his posting isn't genuine. If it's between Fank and J-Cop, it has to be J-Cop for me. All he's really done is sheep what everyone else has been saying and claimed he wasn't saying much because he didn't want to get himself in trouble. I don't think he's anywhere near as scummy as Suprsilvr but I can see it as play coming from cautious newbie scum. Fank is driving me crazy and makes absolutely no sense, but I don't see the scum motivation behind his play. I'm also uneasy about TvL's contributions so far. He hasn't been anywhere near as insightful as I'd expect and something about his posting reads as very forced; it's as though he's trying very hard to come across as balanced and uncontroversial. I'll be going to bed soon so if nobody shows any support for the Suprsilvr wagon then I'll be backing the J-Cop one. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Ivootjes on 03/20/11 at 15:56:05 My god i've been so busy the past days. Had like 10 minutes time this afternoon and had to work for ~10 hours after that. But i can finally read the topic now and comment on everything that has happened. Looking at the last page doesn't seem that people want me lynched for inactivity yet so that's a good thing :P Going to read the topic now. How much hours left in this day? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 15:56:57 Agree about TVL. Would have expected more but I guess time will tell. His vote count list could be interpreted as a) a very useful contribution as we can look back on patterns on later days, b) a way to make it look like a useful contribution from a townie without much to say or c) trying to look like a useful town contribution from a mafia member struggling to question players and pick up on things. Either way, in the same boat as Cam for me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 16:01:29 0124372C3036450 wrote:
Thinking about it, J-Cop has fucked up, but Suprsilver fucked up even more in my eyes. If it was between J-Cop and Supr, I'd go with Supr. I can't understand why his list edit thing is so much underrated, I think it was a huge slip actually :-/ I still can't see any sense in Fank's postings, but as there is not much support and I'll go to sleep soon, I'd be ready to set up a Supr Lynch. unvote vote Suprsilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 16:20:01 133E202C2B2C25490 wrote:
Thinking about it, J-Cop has fucked up, but Suprsilver fucked up even more in the shifting views of the town. If it was between J-Cop and Supr, the town is currently going with Supr so I'll join in. I will restate what's already been said here. I still can't see any sense in Fank's postings, but since no one is going for him I'll just add my vote to this wagon early to avoid appearing sus. I'll go to sleep soon, so I'm ready to set up a Supr Lynch. unvote vote Suprsilver[/quote] Fixed the quote for you. In my opinion, none of the three are maf. I can relate all too well to J-Cop's position, and I posted almost exactly the same way when I was town doctor in a previous game. :-/ I've lost my town lean on Zwiebel and picked up a maf lean to take its place. I don't like his quick reply and defense to what really was just a reaction seeker. For future reference, I think there's a connection between Zwiebel/Goose. I stand my ground on my vote because of it. Edited to add: "when I was town doctor in a previous game." |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Ivootjes on 03/20/11 at 16:24:08 did a quick read through the topic, skimming most posts. I think i saw the most important things. I agree on the J-Cop lynch, he's made quite a weak defense for himself, and it looks he already basicly gave up. I think this is quite beginner mafia like. He also posted that he didn't want to stand out, and i think that as a townie you should always try to post lots and stand out. The more posts, the bigger the chance that mafia makes mistakes. If we lynch him and he turns out mafia, great If we lynch him and he turns out town, not that much lost. As for myself, i'm normally quite an active poster, but i really was way too busy last days. I'm fairly sure i've got more time in the coming week so i'll be back to my active posting style again, just like in other mafia games. Vote: J-Cop |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 16:33:07 343B312C3F39203B3130303B550 wrote:
Thinking about it, J-Cop has fucked up, but Suprsilver fucked up even more in the shifting views of the town. If it was between J-Cop and Supr, the town is currently going with Supr so I'll join in. I will restate what's already been said here. I still can't see any sense in Fank's postings, but since no one is going for him I'll just add my vote to this wagon early to avoid appearing sus. I'll go to sleep soon, so I'm ready to set up a Supr Lynch. unvote vote Suprsilver[/quote] Fixed the quote for you. In my opinion, none of the three are maf. I can relate all too well to J-Cop's position, and I posted almost exactly the same way when I was town doctor in a previous game. :-/ I've lost my town lean on Zwiebel and picked up a maf lean to take its place. I don't like his quick reply and defense to what really was just a reaction seeker. For future reference, I think there's a connection between Zwiebel/Goose. I stand my ground on my vote because of it. Edited to add: "when I was town doctor in a previous game." [/quote] If you read some of my posts, you'd have seen that I think exact the same about J-Cop. And you don' t think that Supr fucked up with that Edit? Not likely for it to be a Town move, even for a new player. So that leaves me with Fank and Supr to vote, and I don't want to hide, that I want fank to be out of this game, but I don't think there's gonna change that much in the votings any more, so Fank's out and it's between Silvr and J-Cop. And I don't really know why you think I was defending myself with the last post, I did already think awhile about changing my vote to Supr again and his post just gave me some hope that we could lynch supr instead of J-Cop, so I switched. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 16:45:54 No, I'm talking about your long-ass reply to my feint with Goose. And it came pretty quick. When a town player attacks a town player, people usually don't feel the need to defend for that player. You were quick to say "ahaha that's groundless" instead of just waiting for Goose to say it. Also, "some hope that we could lynch supr instead of J-cop." "I don't want to hide but" " I did already think awhile about changing my vote to Supr again" Not sus/carefully contrived at all. :) And of course I know Supr messed up on that edit. Then again he's new to the game, came clean on it, and hasn't felt the need to defend himself on it further. A maf player (especially his age) would be trying to respond to every accusation. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/20/11 at 16:52:07 Zwiebel: if you were really so sold on the Suprsilvr edit making him scum then you wouldn't have switched to Fank just because his posts were annoying. Your justification of that hop back doesn't feel genuine at all. I think you just want to be seen anywhere but the lynch wagon. Bedtime for me now, I think we need a lynch and with just over 5 hours to go this is the only realistic wagon that's going to happen. Unvote; Vote: J-Cop |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 16:54:40 Also, don't like how you said (paraphrasing) "there's no move for fank, so I'm going for X instead." If you have honest intentions of trying to change the mood to a Supersilvr lynch you would do so with a good amount of reasoning to help it along as a townie. A poorly explained vote however is sus and a push for a changed bandwagon. Your case is not looking good if J-cop turns up maf. Good. So a J-cop vote teaches us about Zwiebel, especially since he agreed with me earlier on that J-cop is probably a power role townie. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 16:55:45 Fuck sake Darius I was literally about to question Timur on that. [smiley=roll.gif] It seems that the Fank vote was more emotion than reason. Not that there is anything wrong with voting for these two even though J-Cop has the most votes, but perhaps your insistence on voting for the two "next likely" is just a way of looking like you're attacking the likely mafia but really protecting your mafia buddies. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/20/11 at 16:58:12 Also, bedtime for me so I won't respond anymore before the day is up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 17:02:22 74737C7922222B120 wrote:
Are you going to Listen??? Then it is a waste of time trying to convince you.[/quote] http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/www.ign.com/11556/2011/02/Navi_Artwork-300x285.png |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 17:03:31 525D574A595F465D5756565D330 wrote:
Sorry, but I never said I think he's a Town power role. I have a feeling he's Town, but I have no idea if he has a power role or not ::) And I think it's obvious that my vote on fank was more like an "written aggression" ;D than a well-thought vote. I'm confused about him, and I think confusing people are not good to keep around, but I don't see any chance for him to be lynched today at the current situation, and I'm more convinced that Supr is Mafia than J-Cop. Supr is too calm for a new player, even new players that are Town tend to react when accused, and he is just like not even giving a shit about it. That's why he should be lynched now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 17:05:26 006709253A4A0 wrote:
J-Copper: The goal of the game is for your team to win. You win whether or not you're alive or dead at the end, if your team prevails. Pulling the old "vote at the last second to get the other guy lynched" thing usually makes the guy look mafia and get killed the following day if the one that dies that day is town.Sß |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/20/11 at 17:06:25 And yeah, bedtime for me as well. I won't be awake before lynch(obviously ;D), so my vote will stay until EOD. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 17:06:58 545B514C5F59405B5150505B350 wrote:
Tip: Only someone that knows what he's doing would be quiet for that reason. J-Cop doesn't know what he's doing so he'll play the same here whether he's Mark Jones, Mafia Godfather, William Lacey, Town Hacker, or T-Man, token black guy. Next time try applying that logic to someone else, but please don't post it so clearly. No need to give the mafia any extra help. If they're just a bunch of tards, they won't catch things like that until some "helpful" town player spits it out all over the place. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 17:09:02 Sorry for not buying into the big trend here, but I'm all for getting rid of mass confusion over getting rid of a quiet guy at this point. J-Cop's weak defense screams mafia to me but what do we gain by knocking him off now? Not like he's done anything to give up a teammate. Vote: fank |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 17:18:38 63597E424B5E6B6D45454E7E4243444D2A0 wrote:
Tip: Only someone that knows what he's doing would be quiet for that reason. J-Cop doesn't know what he's doing so he'll play the same here whether he's Mark Jones, Mafia Godfather, William Lacey, Town Hacker, or T-Man, token black guy. Next time try applying that logic to someone else, but please don't post it so clearly. No need to give the mafia any extra help. If they're just a bunch of tards, they won't catch things like that until some "helpful" town player spits it out all over the place.[/quote] If the mafia are just a bunch of tards, we'll win this anyway. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/20/11 at 17:22:47 Oh. And where the fuck did Zarkov and padz go? Enjoying the easy ride and letting the town do all the tripping up and mislynching for them? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 17:23:42 I'm off to bed now. Staying on fank as I agree with what Scott said. His posts are really disrupting and people are trying to figure them out instead of focusing on other potential targets, so getting rid of that mass confusion should help the town a lot. Mafia is loving it, so I think that because of the confusion factor if fank is town mafia would have more of a reason to keep him around, and thus pressure J-Cop instead. Still think because of his erratic posting and all-over the place accusations makes him a strong mafia lean. Anyway, see you guys D2. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by thewebinator on 03/20/11 at 17:25:10 To clear that up, I'm theorizing if either turns up town depending on who is lynched, more of the mafia is likely to have voted J-Cop as opposed to fank if they were both town. Just a thought. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/20/11 at 17:25:24 Sorry guys i haven't been active. I had a busy day, but i doubt anyone cares. It's slightly disturbing that only Scott and i think Cam that noticed i have only posted 1 time. Right now it looks like Jcop vs. Fank. I'd be willing to bet that neither one is mafia, but one of these two is going to be eliminated. Fank's posting is so ridiculous. I just can't read anymore of them. i think his list of possible stuff on the first page means nothing and makes me lean more to town on him than mafia. I did this when i was a new player like fank in my first game and i was town. I have a couple of suspicions on my patented too good of a townie mafia member. Koopz is probably mafia, but i'm not going to vote for him because it would be pointless right now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 17:26:00 535C564B585E475C5657575C320 wrote:
Well at least one good post out of you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 17:30:05 587B64797F786C7E723B3B3A0B0 wrote:
Most of the action today has been fast-paced and caring only about what people see, rather than what they don't see. Pretty typical, I guess. Matt V, thought you were going to report back! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 17:39:57 I don't think fank is the right one to lynch just yet. If his posts confuse you, then don't read them. I think J-Cop is far more suspicious, and to me it makes sense to lynch the most suspicious, not the most confusing. Confusing or not, fank could have a power role. Ivo, glad you've returned. I'll take my vote off you for now; everyone should be allowed the busy excuse at least once. But I hope to hear more from you tomorrow, as right now all you have is absence followed by a bandwagon vote (I don't think bandwagon votes are bad necessarily, but they don't look good if that's all you've got). Unvote Vote: J-Cop People are starting to leave for the night, I don't think it's worth pressuring anyone else to post who hasn't. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Honko on 03/20/11 at 17:44:18 Votals [10] J-Cop - Sword, MVT, Tim, SuprSilver, RVZ, TvL, Goose, Ivo, Darius, Cam [3] fank - (MVT), (RDBU), (Web), (NStride), Web, (Goose), (Zwiebel), J-Cop, Scott [2] SuprSilver - (Sword), (Darius), (Zwiebel), RDBU, (fank), Zwiebel [2] Goose - NStride, fank [1] Sword - Zarkov [0] Ivo - (Cam) [0] Web - (RVZ), (Darius) [0] Scott - (fank) [0] MattV - (fank), (Sword) [0] Zarkov - (fank) [0] MVT - (fank) Day ends when a player reaches 12 votes, or in 4.25 hours (exactly 11:00pm Pacific). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/20/11 at 17:44:29 59727569741B0 wrote:
So many people on this list that are either not saying anything, saying a load of shit, or just being all around unhelpful currently one way or another. fank, Ivootjes, J-Cop, KoopZ, MattV, padz, RDBU, RVZ, Sportsguy, Suprsilver, TvL, Zarkov. Jesus christ. Either way it seems J-Cop is going to get lynched. I just get much more of a town vibe from fank personally, than I do with J-Cop. It's not like fank can't be taken care of later, either. If J-Cop flips town then it's not too much of a big deal, since he pretty much stated he'll only talk when spoken to, or whether he feels like conjuring up a post. I don't think the lynch tells us about fank's alliance since he could have easily been trying to buss a mafia member in order to save himself. Infact I get a slight suspicion this is actually the case at hand ... Won't be here near EOD. This is probably my last post of Day 1 unless something else springs to mind. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 18:17:13 0312273024272136012B30212E27420 wrote:
1. You can't just not read a player's posts, what you can do is not respond to them. 2. Even if I didn't read any of his posts, their sheer volume is enough to derail the entire thread for days because everyone is going to react. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by padz on 03/20/11 at 18:59:40 680D0C0D3C0 wrote:
should have listened to mvt pregame you could argue that fank is more detrimental to town in general than jcop but the latter is an especially risk-free target for scum. since town is inept nobody will take advantage of this so jcop being alive at all is just as bad. mario kart |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by MVT on 03/20/11 at 19:04:50 I said J-Cop, suprsilver, and fank shouldnt have been allowed to play. I saw the writing on the wall. Look at the shit they have caused. Blame Honko for that I guess, he wouldn't budge on including them. These 3 stooges are just messing things up! If there is a vig(s) with any guts take out both of these clowns at night. [smiley=chairshot.gif] Then finally some clarity just might be possible during the days. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/20/11 at 19:28:57 Well everyone should get at least one shot at playing I guess. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 19:46:20 Well... If i last another day... I will definetly shut up more :P ... Im still learning... Message for the cop... If you have doubts on my loyalty to the town DO NOT investigate me... MVT wants a vig shot at us and im expecting not to last the night phase. Depending on what jcop is i will change my leans accordingly (depending if i wake up :P) MVT, Im sorry for cramping your Professional style and i can BET... that if their is another game i Wont be invited :P :'( I dunno what to do with j-cop though... somethings telling me he's maf after how Zweibel reacted... A message to scott and weber... If you can find the code for my english please tell me k :P After today what the town needs to do is keep moving forward... and thats the exact thing im going to try to do. This might be me for the day unless someone feels like a chat :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 19:54:08 Sup? Didn't have alot of time on here earlier, and didn't find anything new or important enough to discuss, reading more now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 19:57:35 7F475A5B5C77784449514D5A776D5E4D5A280 wrote:
:-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 19:58:26 No comprendez? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 20:01:43 lol it just seems strange you'd say that after all this discussion of conscientiously not contributing (see J-Cop). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:03:49 So you'd prefer me to repost stuff thats already been said? :-? I'm convinced J-Cop is the best lynch, he's most likely mafia. Hel;l I'll even place the killing vote. Just need one more besides me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Camster on 03/20/11 at 20:07:24 Well what do you think about the two other big leads? Why don't you think Fank is the better lynch? Or Supersilver? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:18:37 I lean noob town for fank, not sure bout Supr, he does nothing but makes lists, then says he didnt pay much attention to the posts. Dunno what to make of it. But regardless no chance of lynching either of them. I'm just really thinking J-cop is mafia, but don't wanna seem like I'm bandwagoning, so I'd place the kill if needed although day is almost timed out. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:22:15 Also, Koopz seems to be lurking bigtime now, and he's prob still online. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:32:38 Also also, im slightly intoxicated. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 20:34:31 ...And slightly closer to receiving a vote :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:35:38 I wanna kill this fucker, he deserves to die, because he's a huge hinderance if he is townieish. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:36:51 Talking about the Coppernoll of course. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 20:41:54 unless i get 8 ish votes... you might have to wait 2 hrs... something tells me you have some night time job and want to use it pronto Ill put ya on my watch list... I would vote... But its a dammed if i do dammed if i dont type situation. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:43:14 I lol'd at your logic. Night comes no matter what. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 20:44:20 How was Friday night? ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:45:45 Fucking epic of course. ;) Incidentally, my girlfriend is ten times better at Call of Duty then I'll ever be. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 20:47:24 Tell her that most games made after the year 2000 are complete shit, and Call of Duty is the leader of the shit game empire. ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:49:27 I said something similar, then made her play Mario Party 2. She got pretty mad that I gave her a 5 second headstart on Mecha Marathon and still won. ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 20:51:19 hahahahahahahahahaha oh well at least you got to put that rapid fire finger action to use later [smiley=engel017.gif] ok enough derailing the thread for now [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 20:54:42 0C3429282F040B373A223E29041E2D3E295B0 wrote:
If i join the bandwagon id be Suspected mafia (and the likes of goose would come after me :P) MattV we'll make a deal... If you want Jcop gone for certain... I will vote and you can do the final vote if that makes you happy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:56:20 Also we had sex three times. Loooooooooooooool. Dude theres a 14 inch height difference between us, shes so tiny. Fank, deal, vote, and Ill kill him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 20:57:05 lol AMAZING |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 20:57:10 SHOTS SHOTS SHOTS This thread isnt derailed, I'm just showing some of the virgin karters that all hope is not lost. Or something, what the fuck am i even saying? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/20/11 at 21:00:22 I may regret this... Unvote Vote:Jcop Matt you have 5 mins |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/20/11 at 21:00:34 After a couple years of trolling these boards, I finally found it weird to talk about sex & relationships on this forum because half of the posters are ACTUALLY 12 YEARS OLD. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Matt V on 03/20/11 at 21:01:40 Vote: J-Cop Yeah thats true. But they all need to know mini turbos change everything. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Night 1 Post by Honko on 03/20/11 at 21:11:39 J-Cop has been lynched. He was padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz?. It is now Night 1. Send your night actions to me by PM in the next 22 hours. If you do not wish to use your night action tonight, please PM me with that decision as well. If you do not have any night powers, no PM is necessary. Final Day 1 Votals [12] J-Cop - Sword, MVT, Tim, SuprSilver, RVZ, TvL, Goose, Ivo, Darius, Cam, fank, MattV [3] fank - (MVT), (RDBU), (Web), (NStride), Web, (Goose), (Zwiebel), J-Cop, Scott [2] SuprSilver - (Sword), (Darius), (Zwiebel), RDBU, (fank), Zwiebel [1] Goose - NStride, (fank) [1] Sword - Zarkov [0] Ivo - (Cam) [0] Web - (RVZ), (Darius) [0] Scott - (fank) [0] MattV - (fank), (Sword) [0] Zarkov - (fank) [0] MVT - (fank) The Living 1. Cam 2. Darius 3. fank 4. Goose 5. Ivo 7. KoopZ 8. Matt V 9. MVT 10. NStride 11. padz 12. RDBU 13. RVZ 14. Scott 15. Sportsguy 16. Suprsilver 17. Sword 18. Tim 19. TvL 20. Web 21. Zarkov 22. Zwiebel The Dead 6. J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/21/11 at 19:44:40 Cam is dead. He was Spril, TOWN Female Intuition. Sportsguy is dead. He was AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper. The Living 1. Darius 2. fank 3. Goose 4. Ivo 5. KoopZ 6. Matt V 7. MVT 8. NStride 9. padz 10. RDBU 11. RVZ 12. Scott 13. Suprsilver 14. Sword 15. Tim 16. TvL 17. Web 18. Zarkov 19. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) With 19 players alive it takes 10 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when a player reaches 10 votes. REMINDER: Dead players do NOT get a "farewell" post. If you're dead, stay quiet. Also, be sure to check your PMs before posting. Go! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/21/11 at 19:56:19 Admin? Wtf...serial killer? ;D So I guess this night wasn't so bad after all. The roles in this game are impossible to read into what the role means. However I think that was really a serial killer in sportsguy. He may have killed cam too! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/21/11 at 20:02:02 so who'd you block last night mvt? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/21/11 at 20:03:48 427376686762120 wrote:
You. [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Camster on 03/21/11 at 20:05:51 I see you guys are sticking to tradition :'( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/21/11 at 20:16:40 Hey asshole. Read the sign. It says Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/21/11 at 20:40:36 Well... Good to live another day. Good to see the 19 of yall here. Now, what the fank has honko done with the roles? Its like he has asked me for good role names. About "admin" they may be main maf or a second group. From the role name my thoughts are more towards the role being a role blocker type. Anyway... Good for town. Now bout jcop and cam, ???, i would conclude that they may be vanilla but i need to see more. Ideas on the roles of these 2? So that we might begin to unlock the secrets of the universe called honkos brain? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/21/11 at 20:49:08 That'd make sure he's dead. Got a serial killer, but who knows if there might be more similar roles. Right now I'm still suspicious of Suprsilver. First, blatantly edits a post which happened to include a list. Votes and helps lynch J-Cop and he turns up town. Vote: Suprsilver It also bothers me that fank voted J-Cop too. I would've looked past it if it weren't for the arguments yesterday. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/21/11 at 21:09:26 so i had this big long post ready to go near the end of the day and then honko locked the topic cuz a majority had been reached. and now the person that had specifically asked for more input on my part is dead. what the fuck. anyway the gist of my post was this: goose - you said that my out of town thing could be a lie, cuz i'm a smart player and could just be using that as an excuse to not say anything and really be a mafia player sitting back. i really was out of town, i had no way of checking, much less posting on a regular basis while i was there. i also threw that same arguement back in your face, and some people pointed it out as fluff. i sincerely meant it though, cuz goose is a smart player (far better than me) and he could just as easily be playing us all. on the other hand, i'm not overly suspicious of goose, and me saying that about him was just supposed to be meant as pointing it out that it goes both ways. TL;DR anyway, scott's posting more like what i'm used to seeing, so i'm relaxing with him. fank's just stupid town, nothing more. he needs to shut up a bit though, cuz he confusing things for everyone else, and it makes it hard to get shit done when you have a PMSing n00b running his mouth at every little accusation. the thing i am most surprised about is how SuprSilvr just slid on by with hardly anyone saying anything about it and spending all their time concentrating on fank and j-cop. HE BLATANTLY IGNORED ONE OF THE RULES. even with honko not modkilling him, he at the VERY LEAST deserves some more serious questioning if not just a lynch right away, all for very obvious reasons. just to make sure people know that i know what i'm talking about, here are the facts as i see it one more time: 1) SuprSilvr edited a post, which at first contained a list, then he changed it to saying that it's "too early to be making lists" 2) he goes on and makes a list anyway later on in day 1. 3) (in my opinion) anything about Silvr gets drowned out by drama from j-cop and fank. vote: SuprSilver speak up dude. i'm going to bed now. i'll try to post again before i go to work, but other than that, i've got a long day ahead of me tomorrow and wont be able to post again for awhile. so til then.... lets be productive people. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/21/11 at 21:32:59 7A7676696A6D7C6B190 wrote:
Whenever people asked me to explain i felt dutily bound to comply (cause im such an honest man.) Your right... There was too much drama between me and j-cop and SS was able to survive a vote. I would vote for SS but i feel there are bigger fish to fry... Because Bringing me up to talk is so bad for town... VOTE:Weber Town Leans MVT Darius Koopz Padz Nstride (finally someone who gets a hint ) Zwiebel Maf Leans RDBU SuprSilver Web Goose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/21/11 at 21:37:23 I have reasons to believe that BOTH Fank and SuprSilver are buddies. SuprSilver has already been explained by me and Koopz, and I think Fank too because: 1.Voted J-Cop and told Matt V to put the final nail in the coffin. The post before that was Matt V making a deal with him to vote for J-Cop. ...Which also makes Matt V look fishy. Maf leans: SuprSilver Fank Matt V And SuprSilver... honestly, I thought I was bad at this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/21/11 at 22:06:34 72757A7F24242D140 wrote:
Laughing so hard. Seriously. If this gives me a stroke you're at fault. 092A2E212C430 wrote:
You're really something else. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/21/11 at 22:09:35 Anyway, not gonna lie but Cam's vote near the end of Day 1 looked like the worst wagon of all time to me. Nearly blasted him right then and there but held my tongue. Was preparing some things for him in my mind over the last day or so, but now I'll have to step back again and put together some new thoughts. Why is fank still in this? RDBU: What exactly does your role as Kevin Booth, ADMIN Site Creator allow you to do? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/21/11 at 22:23:51 vote: fank009 He doesn't belong in this game right now. I'm not going to let you idiots talk me out of it this time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/21/11 at 22:25:10 Shock: Why are you always so darn harsh in all your posts? RVZ, Ivo: You two have had plenty of time to catch up on your reading now, don't make me start tooting that "quiet people are mafia" horn, no one wants to hear that. Zarkov, Padz: Okay you two can skip the PDAs in the baggage hold, time to get back into this, same as those other two. MattV: You're going to have to show us some reason that you're helping in the game. So far all you've done is chatted totally off topic with Goose and lynched someone an hour before end of day for no reason. Tim: I dare you to post more than 15 times today. It's always nice to hear from you. Why is Cam dead and not MVT? Darius: Can't say I'm a huge fan of the groupthink going on between you and Koopz on reasoning for a Suprsilver lynch. I've made loads of posts that I wanted to take back a few seconds after making them, maybe this guy thought he could change it before anyone saw. In my opinion you can't draw too much about his allegiance from this action. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/21/11 at 22:26:58 547C7C607621130 wrote:
You talked yourself right out of it, stop with the trolling. In ten posts you went from making large accusations toward fank, to voting for J-Cop with weak reasoning. What gives? Just slip out the back, Jack, make a new plan, Stan Don't need to be coy, Roy, just listen to me Hop on the bus, Gus, don't need to discuss much Just drop off the key, Lee, and get yourself free Don't pretend you weren't singing this while you did it! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/21/11 at 22:33:28 MVT: All through Day 1 you talked about how Suprsilver, J-Cop, and fank should have been added to the "ban list" but why does that mean we need to target them without looking at anyone else? Other than 1 or 2 of your posts yesterday, all I heard was attacks and bashing aimed at those three. Now that we're passed Day 1, I'm sure you'll turn things around though. Who are you most dissatisfied with so far, Shock or Web, and why? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/21/11 at 22:33:26 Ya, first time I survive out of night 1 in quite a while. Maybe cam is just better than me. Or maybe the logical thing that he gave less information and was still a dangerous player. The mafia would want to axe a guy who posted the least amount of info as to not give the town any leads going into day 2. I would be inclined to believe that it was sportsguy killed by the maf and he serial killed cam. Just a hypothesis though. Now onto the maf....Fank & suprsilver both look mighty awful. Nstride was defending the hell out of suprsilver which makes me believe that the two are connected. Fank is just a walking pile of confusion. Maybe if he shuts up things can get done though. Nstride is sus in general especially with his random vote on Goose. However a suprsilver lynch would prove which side he is on. What's your opinion of yourself and suprsilver, fank????? My vote is honestly between the two of you and I have not decided yet. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/21/11 at 22:34:40 EPIC REVERSED POSTS, I TOOK A SCREENSHOT THIS IS INSANE http://www.upload.speedrunwiki.com/images/misc/ReversedPosts.png |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/21/11 at 22:36:17 28123509001520260E0E053509080F06610 wrote:
I definitely believe shock and supr are connected. No doubt about that. Web was trying hard to latch onto other people though which is weird. TVL played very low key and I'd like to hear more from him. Also the Goose needs to speak more. I like when the Goose is on the loose interrogating people and I need to see that. More in the morning when I am more awake......... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/21/11 at 22:38:15 7041484870454841240 wrote:
This is exactly the way I read that. The only thing I doubt is whether ADMIN is a 3rd party, or a gimmick name for MAFIA. We'll maybe find out in coming days. Anyway, my big target was Cam and as soon as Day 1 ended I knew he would be the first person I would kill, based on what I said a few posts up here. Sportsguy and I often have similar reads on stuff like that so your read there is probably what happened...as long as ADMIN = 3rd party not mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/21/11 at 22:43:14 Ya we can't be certain that admin = 3rd party. Time will definitely tell. I think we have a tough choice today between ending the confusion (fank) and killing a guy who made a critical mistake D1 (suprsilver). However other people should definitely speak up and give opinions. I don't want anyone going silent today. I don't plan on making my decision between these two anytime soon. Ok going to bed now... will return in the morning / afternoon tomorrow American time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/21/11 at 22:43:29 0F27273B2D7A480 wrote:
seems everyone else has forgotten about our pact vote fank009 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 00:00:18 Vote: Suprsilvr Scott: right, so maybe you've said something in a past mafia game and thought 'I wish I hadn't posted that'. Have you ever actually changed it? Have you ever changed it and completely rewritten it to say something contradictory to what you were going to say? My point is this: Suprsilvr said something, and then changed his mind and wrote something that didn't even have the same meaning as what he first put. He can't have the opinion that it would be a good idea to make a list and then also have the opinion it's not a good idea to make lists on D1. I think he started making the list because he wanted to appear pro-town in response to Sword's question. The fact that he wrote a list that he doesn't even think is true is revealing to me - it shows he's fabricating some of his reads. And then later in the day he goes ahead and makes another list anyway! Suprsilvr: what part of your original list did you think wasn't true? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zarkov on 03/22/11 at 00:44:13 Oh hello. Im actually at my computer for once. Do I read back the entire thread or shall I just read the last two posts. Fank is just nuts. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 01:48:49 7A4F4B4942614B585E4F582A0 wrote:
READ THE EARLIER QUOTES (and After) 4F484742191910290 wrote:
If i join the bandwagon id be Suspected mafia (and the likes of goose would come after me :P) MattV we'll make a deal... If you want Jcop gone for certain... I will vote and you can do the final vote if that makes you happy.[/quote] 4F484742191910290 wrote:
If i join the bandwagon id be Suspected mafia (and the likes of goose would come after me :P) MattV we'll make a deal... If you want Jcop gone for certain... I will vote and you can do the final vote if that makes you happy.[/quote] Jcop was sure to be gone but i had enough of all the talk about sex so i stopped it k... IS IT SO HARD TO BE MORAL ROUND HERE !!! Thats all i have to say to you RDBU To MVT Koopz makes a brilliant point that i highlight and what do you do... ask for my opinion. My opinion on Suprsilver... Untrustworthy and obvious lynch but hes a townie... he is still a good lynch cause he hasnt contributed much and dosent look like contributing more Why im not voting for him... Where is the town going to go next??? if mafia has their way i might be lucky but if im right im next on the pecking order regardless... I want to ask you MVT... you say my posts are confusing... are you seeing all of them as a whole or each of them individually... I cant help being sarcastic it keeps me sane... (see Exhibit Ahttp://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/170 I will try to seperate sarcastic spam from helpful knowledge in the future if thats ok with you To Scott 043E19252C390C0A222229192524232A4D0 wrote:
is 1/4-1/3 of my 1st days post count shutting up enough to be mafia to you scott? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 02:07:24 Can only stop in for a few seconds this morning before school, so I'll post this. Didn't expect Cam to be town at all, he was playing differently, but I guess he was busy. Anyway, for the same reasons as yesterday, I'm going to Vote: Fank He voted J-Cop, who turned up town, with little reasoning iirc (will check later). He was voting Scott earlier, so it makes me feel like he was trying to avoid being on the killed person because he knew they were town, but realized he had to be, so wagoned at the end. It looks bad for him imo right now. Please, everyone realize what they're doing here. Until Supr talks, he should be held under the same suspicion imo, but killing a maf that is confusing the town is better than a maf that doesn't talk. Anyway, I gtg to school, I'll be back at ~3PM EST |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 02:44:37 Warning SERIOUS POST BELOW! 43795E626B7E4B4D65656E5E6263646D0A0 wrote:
-I dont know ask the Town Vigs... Mafia must like me so much :P Like i said im pretty sure maf wants me alive and Town wants me dead... Now if i survive a second night vote im either starting to blend or the maf doc is saving me :P. Biggest "maf" target at the moment... fank009. -??? Scott=Cop & RDBU=Scum??? (gameplay certainly shows it.) WAIT... HERE IS A WHAT IF WHAT IF... Admin are the town power roles??? just speculating... We'll find out later. TO GOOSE 664E4E524413210 wrote:
Why dont i belong in this game right now... is this a nub free zone now??? NOT A GOOD EXCUSE. To MVT again 15242D2D15202D24410 wrote:
I must say... was starting to lean Maf but after this post Im (Me, Fank No one else) am more sure your town. And To my mate Weber... 4557505B5C53465D400306320 wrote:
-Let me explain... last game... (which i was town) I had a pivotal opportunity to cast the lynching vote... But since i had dug a grave (like this game) I thought the best me for me would be to not lynch (the person who was about to be lynched had been chosen from a rng and eventually turned out to be maf [smiley=chairshot.gif] to avoid a similar fate (and make me more maf like AS I stated...) i found someone willing to vote for Jcop and decided to end it before people changed their minds in an hour... was it a selfish thing Yes... could we have gotten more info for the town maybe... but i hope you see the two reasons as to why i would vote j-cop off. (town and maf reason) -A maf that is confusing town? why am i confusing... cause you read only a part of my posts. (probably my fault for earlier posts but..) you have applied (some sort of ism dont know what it is yet.) and as a result you see me post you read part of it skimming what you think is the important bits and skipping what you would call the BS. If you read the whole darn post, you might make sense... On another note weber... what if i flip up town??? Those who think i am noob town will have a look at you and say... "He pushed for Fank so He must be Maf" What if you flip town too? that is a lot for the town to lose based of a chain reaction. I had a feeling (20/80 Town/scum) of what j-cop is... None of my feelings on my leans right now are 100% k. Everyone has evidence of why they are town or scum in my opinion. To Everyone Yes im new but im one of those players who has studied up the theory wearing to test it in the field... I dont want to vote SS just in case those who are 1/2 and 1/2 in their opinion about me might see it as a Maf move... When your new there are simple tactics but when you are advanced you have double bluffs, triple bluffs and Stupid idiots (like yours truly) Some general thoughts to think about -Is Goose double bluffing... ( he is the only one to role claim (apart from yours truly) -Is MVT going to stop being grumpy??? -Is TVL going to stop lurking??? -Is Matt v sober (or sane :P) -Is Honko Sane with his roles??? Thats all for now... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zarkov on 03/22/11 at 02:59:05 Imma support fank because his posts look colourful. He is like a Vaj who can kinda speak english. Id like to know who is Zarkov MAFIA Sneaky Raptor. Fo Sho Honko made that as a role. Certainly not fank as he wouldve jizzed by now. Wops are useless. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/22/11 at 03:10:17 Unvote Vote: fank009 You have to admit, you brought this on yourself. It's a little sus that SS hasn't responded either. This ADMIN role could mean anything at the moment. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/22/11 at 03:16:32 (Lol @ serious post) Good morning everyone. I've been told by more than one person to stop lurking, so I'll try to contribute more. This in itself might arouse suspicion, but what would you have me do? Let me start by pointing out that fank was very eager to finish off J-Cop; he was practically begging Matt V to join him in casting the last two votes. Anyone jumping on the J-Cop train is of course also moving up my list, although that would include myself as well. During day 1, I was defending Suprsilver somewhat, because I wasn't convinced that his stupid move meant that he was mafia. However, he was quick to jump on the J-Cop train when it started to take off and then he dropped below radar. We haven't heard from him since I believe. I wonder what it means that two people died tonight; was this a double kill by the mafia or do we have a town vigilante? Who killed Sportsguy? He made two posts I think, so I doubt the mafia would consider him a worthy target; their target was probably Cam. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 03:18:51 162327252E0D2734322334460 wrote:
I knew that RDBU... but ??? Im really confused at you actions??? either that or i dont know you as well as i do (or You DONT read) something tells me your Town sheep or Maf... I honestly dont know who to vote for know... Something tells me weber and RDBU are together scum and all but... Im so unsure :( well [smiley=beer.gif] Who wants @RDBU... You have always thought me as maf... your opinion never changes. EDIT:This Paragraph is a test :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 03:29:50 1C202725293B173E04480 wrote:
- you feel my pain... How touching... (^and THIS is why my posts are confusing... People misintepret anyway.) -You read Wrong... I was lurking the Scott-MattV convo. It was MattV wanting to get rid of jcop... 013924252209063A372F33240913203324560 wrote:
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Proof enough for everyone? -True about SS i like your thinking... -WHAT!!!???!!! CAN SOMEONE GET THIS NOOB out of here... something like that makes SS AND me sound 100x smarter right now ??? If we are going for useless town votes (which we are :P) i would vote for TVL but... Im not going too. Bigger fish to fry |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zarkov on 03/22/11 at 03:56:10 TvL posts when maf bud tells him to stop lurking. Sus. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/22/11 at 04:26:28 TvL's post sounds kinda defensive, while he didn't got attacked at all. And his posts are imo so strained. Very very weird. I also want to point out that Webinator plays like he played last game, where he was MAFIA. He's switching back and forth with his votes on people with no own opinion, just quoting and repeating what other people said. Grs Robertó editted typo |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 05:00:20 Back for a bit then off to school. Just skimmed the thread up to the most recent post (ignored every one of fank's). I think (Scott?) asked why I had to be such an asshole. http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8118/mariohaters.png Comprendo? Now stay out of my fucking business unless you're going to do something productive with it. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] So I guess people are either going with fank or suprsilver today. fank is probably innocent guys, we can easily ignore him no matter much highlighter he uses. Suprsilver has a much stronger case against him with that edit, and he needs to speak up. Vote: Suprsilver inb4 morons call softbussing |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 05:02:12 Then again if fank is mafia then his mafia friends would be encouraging him to post in large quantities. But I doubt this is the case. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 05:03:25 Yeah Thomas really plays the, "i'm mafia but i don't have a clue how to handle with it so i'll just give some general info to look active" game. His last post gets a bit better btw. I actually like how fank plays, he just goes nuts at everything, it's always a good thing to have those people around. Keeps the game alive. In my last game town lost because the active players got lynched all the time. Does anyone have a clue what sportsguy's role was btw? Was he serial killer? Mafia? He was not town for sure, but his role is a bit vague. I really feel like i'll go insane as soon as i'm going to play this game seriously, which is probably this evening. I'm currently at school but i've got all time tonight. What's up with mvt's hate on fank btw? I really don't see why you hate the guy so much, i think he's doing fine. Lynching him won't stop confusion, this game is all about being confused, or at least towns members are normally confused. We should aim to get info out of all this "confusion" I need to read carefully into suprsilver's posts as he seems to be getting the hate today. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 05:04:50 6C495A415D5B280 wrote:
Just found this on the reread. Well said, I'm moving it to this page for people to read. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zarkov on 03/22/11 at 05:29:00 Thank you Shock. People always change their minds in maf games, so it's not important. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 06:05:34 Aside from the whole Fank/Supr case I'm worried about TvL's posts. It's as if his Mafia buddies told him to "look innocent" by posting all this "analysis" posts, like setting up a vote count and saying "I want to analyse every post, and it's too much so I can't really say anything". And now his last post, sounding like "Shit lurking will make me sus, I need to post something at least". About fank/Supr, I haven't changed my opinion of the end of last day, Supr Lynch> Fank lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/22/11 at 07:44:56 It's in my nature to not judge people to quickly, to play devil's advocate, etcetera. It's also in my nature to think carefully about my posts. I realize that neither characteristic is very commendable for a citizen, but that's just the real me shining through. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/22/11 at 07:46:11 Votals [4] fank - Goose, padz, Web, RDBU [3] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, NStride [1] Web - fank Day ends in 36 hours or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/22/11 at 07:50:46 I'm pretty steaming about Cam because he played like a dick and proved more of a distraction for some of the town's attention than anything else. I'm not massively bothered about J Cop because of how ricidulously he played but the Cam issue is going to have to be looked at in more detail... I'm going to read the whole of day one when I get back from shopping. In the meantime I want to hear more from TVL (naturally), he wasn't very convincing day 1, as well as RVZ and Padz. A Suprsilvr/Fank lynch may tell us something about Timur/RDBU, due to Timur's weird switch-voting on day 1 and RDBU's sudden personality transplant one page ago (had a skim). Back soon. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/22/11 at 07:53:14 19263F3F243A3523500 wrote:
Double bluff Mr Active? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 07:59:34 Just a quick one, I'm still at work and can't go in depth. Scott you said you didn't like that Darius and I appeared to be teaming up. Can you really expect every person to have a unique viewpoint on who they find suspicious? I can't help that we share similar suspicions, and surely you've noticed the other posts with people pointing out the same things. For the time being I find Silvr to be most suspicious and I still feel like he's not getting enough attention and I don't believe I've seen him post yet today either. I see some people giving TvL flack about his posting style. I think he's telling the truth. There's too much crap going on and he hasn't had time to process it (neither have I really). Clark's posts seem trollish to me though. Like a second padz. I don't like it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zarkov on 03/22/11 at 08:07:38 When padz posts look like troll, he is town. In the elite game he did the same thing and was. So by association so am I. Anyway, TvL's constant "this is the way I am" stuff is becoming too much of a factor. If he is town then he has nothing to worry about. The fact that he is still saying it on day 2 is sus and looks like an excuse not to post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 08:14:38 You guys are all fucking twats. Thank god I feel better today. Anyways, I'm currently suspicious os Suprsilver, RVZ, and TvL. Possible bandwagon votes yesterday, and some odd posts that leave me wondering. I'm also wondering why Tim hasn't been under fire at all, does everyone agree he's town or something? I dunno what to make of all this shit, I was convinced J-Cop was maf, since this isn't his first game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 08:22:51 Also am I the only one who thinks Scott may have some sort of role as a town or mafia forum troll? He's been posting quite weird all game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zarkov on 03/22/11 at 08:27:34 Scott likes to think he trolls everyone, but all what he knows about trolling he got in one pm from Goose. Also, I like being a twat as I'm from twatford. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 08:29:58 Or maybe he's T-Man MAFIA African-American Avenger. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 08:36:04 I'm only on for another half hour, hopefully somebody posts. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 08:50:31 Let's see if you can say something insightful, Matt. You got any reason to suspect Tim? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 08:51:35 Not at all, just was curious as to why nobody really has mentioned him much or questioned any posts. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 08:57:36 Then why ask? I think he's town and I haven't seen anything suspect, so I haven't pressured him. If you thought the same thing, why are you wondering why he hasn't been under fire? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 08:59:12 4E494643181811280 wrote:
READ THE EARLIER QUOTES (and After) 4F484742191910290 wrote:
If i join the bandwagon id be Suspected mafia (and the likes of goose would come after me :P) MattV we'll make a deal... If you want Jcop gone for certain... I will vote and you can do the final vote if that makes you happy.[/quote] 4F484742191910290 wrote:
If i join the bandwagon id be Suspected mafia (and the likes of goose would come after me :P) MattV we'll make a deal... If you want Jcop gone for certain... I will vote and you can do the final vote if that makes you happy.[/quote] Jcop was sure to be gone but i had enough of all the talk about sex so i stopped it k... IS IT SO HARD TO BE MORAL ROUND HERE !!! Thats all i have to say to you RDBU To MVT Koopz makes a brilliant point that i highlight and what do you do... ask for my opinion. My opinion on Suprsilver... Untrustworthy and obvious lynch but hes a townie... he is still a good lynch cause he hasnt contributed much and dosent look like contributing more Why im not voting for him... Where is the town going to go next??? if mafia has their way i might be lucky but if im right im next on the pecking order regardless... I want to ask you MVT... you say my posts are confusing... are you seeing all of them as a whole or each of them individually... I cant help being sarcastic it keeps me sane... (see Exhibit Ahttp://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/170 I will try to seperate sarcastic spam from helpful knowledge in the future if thats ok with you To Scott 043E19252C390C0A222229192524232A4D0 wrote:
is 1/4-1/3 of my 1st days post count shutting up enough to be mafia to you scott?[/quote] I don't know why are are flustered that I asked for your opinion. You are the most defensive moron I have ever seen. The worst part of your post here is that you say you highlighted Koopz post and thought it was brilliant yet then immediately after his post you do this... 7A7D72772C2C251C0 wrote:
Whenever people asked me to explain i felt dutily bound to comply (cause im such an honest man.) Your right... There was too much drama between me and j-cop and SS was able to survive a vote. I would vote for SS but i feel there are bigger fish to fry... Because Bringing me up to talk is so bad for town... VOTE:Weber Town Leans MVT Darius Koopz Padz Nstride (finally someone who gets a hint ) Zwiebel Maf Leans RDBU SuprSilver Web Goose. [/quote] You vote webinator....wtf...u r a fucking idiot. Make up your damn mind moron. Now what tough guy? [smiley=roll.gif] Also suprsilver, dude speak the fuck up. The vote is between you and fank unfortunately whether people like it or not that is most likely what this is going to come down to today. You are just sitting back dumbly and not responding. Why would you blatantly break the rules D1? Fank may be mentally incompetent but at least he hasn't technically cheated like you have. Tough tough case between these two. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 08:59:16 Implying I thought the same as you. I merely don't want to see him get a free ride all the way through. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 09:04:07 Then you should ask him something, not ask us why other people haven't questioned him. Seems overly cautious to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 09:08:07 Or maybe I just don't want him to use his mafia godfather kill on me. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 09:08:57 I've gotta go now. Getting a haircut. >.< Don't let RVZ and TvL off your radar boys, I find them fishy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 09:09:04 Also I think no matter who flips what the other should be definitely night killed by a vig (fank / supr). Fank did defend suprsilver quite a bit though so it might be better to kill supr. If he flips maf, fank is likely maf. If he flips town fank is likely town. These comparisons are not always accurate, but it's all we have to go on for now. Something in me tells me there is still a possibility that fank is just actually this retarded in real life and might be town just based on how he speaks in the irc chat. But honestly I don't know. Ivo, I'm sorry man but if you think fank's posting is helpful, then what incites have you pulled from it???? I'd like to hear what you think fank's main points an arguments are since you claim to be able to read his posts clearly. It might be a maf tactic for you to want to keep him alive to keep causing mass confusion. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 09:11:36 This day seems to be starting off with people going in opposite directions. I'll be back tonight, several hours from now. Hopefully we can all collaborate as a town and get a good decision going. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 09:45:00 526E696B677559704A060 wrote:
I have a pretty strong feeling you're wrong here. Go check out Sporty's two posts. He basically showed he was pretty busy and didn't have much to say. Didn't drop any reads other than a joking KoopZ one. Basically contributed 0 and had no strings attached. It's a perfect spot for a wise mafia team to take out a powerful player before he can establish any ground to work on. Sportsguy's always got great intuition in these games so getting him out of the way makes life easier for mafia...why would a town vig or other killing role want someone who can sniff mafia like nobody's business dead? Of course...this is all still assuming ADMIN =/= MAFIA. Sometimes you feel like a nut Sometimes you don't Almond Joy's got nuts Mounds don't On the other hand, someone (especially sportsguy, his role is called Handicapper more like decapitator) who had a night kill and wasn't on the mafia's side would pick Cam instantly. His wagon was super fail and most of his posts hadn't been making too much sense. See MVT/Thingy @ Page 17. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 09:48:15 Matt V: You've blasted 25 posts with a total of 25 lines and a total of 0 relation to the game other than ending the day early. You're going to have to step it up otherwise you're just dead weight. Why sign up if you're not even going to pay attention? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 09:49:56 Random Fact #52: People who constantly account for their absences tend to be mafia making excuses for why they won't be posting at all, ever. Source: See all previous kart mafia games. Don't forget the Elite/Kart combined game (<Jimbo> Hi just checking in I've got 124 hours of work to do tomorrow so I'll check back in later) Follow trends, spot fuckups, kill mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 09:51:02 5D6578797E555A666B736F78554F7C6F780A0 wrote:
lol Vote: Matt V |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/22/11 at 10:02:25 ^ Wow, quadruple post... It's actually these kind of actions that make me suspicious of Scott. A bunch of posts in a row, some weird poems... Trying too hard to appear trolling I suspect. I'm also finding it hard to see any new insights in RDBU's posts. He's just going with the obvious suspects, Suprsilver and fank. I'm curious to see Ivo's frenzy, not much action from him yet. Unfortunately I can't be there "live", I've got to go in 10 min. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 10:02:34 7E5B48534F493A0 wrote:
Pretty sure I changed stuff within the first 30 seconds before, maybe even removing large accusations. Can't be sure. When you're 12 you probably get even more trigger happy than anyone else. Contradictory would be if he made a big post indicting Goose then changed it to say Goose was obviously town. Even if someone did that it doesn't mean they are mafia. Maybe they just saw a new perspective on the game and didn't want that other one to stay. Sometimes when you click Post you suddenly go AHHHHH WHAT HAVE I DONE and want to take it back. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 10:04:32 112D2A2824361A3309450 wrote:
They're actually songs. I'm not trolling anyone, I'm telling it how I see it. When there's this much BS floating about, someone has to point it out. A quarter of the players seem to have no idea what's happened so far in the game. So you're suspicious because I talk about things other than Fank and Suprsilver, eh? [smiley=dankk2.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 10:05:50 > AAAHHHHH WHAT HAVE I DONE Happens more often to mafia than it does townies. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 10:06:27 Not like I would know. Shock: If you had a day kill to use right now who would you use it on? (If anyone) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 10:07:50 7B4740424E5C7059632F0 wrote:
I can't help it, but that post is striking me odd... 1. Quote:
So you want to contribute more because of others? You should get active because you want to help, not because other tell you to. If you're posting just some things but they're useful, that's fine. Posting just for the sake of posting is pretty Mafia-like. 2. Quote:
I think you're overdoing, and it's not that suspicious to want to get rid of J-Cop. We can't get that much out of it, because Mafia could also have avoided jumping on the bandwagon to not look suspicious. Fank was doing retard things all the day long, so seeing that action we can't really get any more information than we already know about Fank. 3. Quote:
Again, this looks like a Mafiaish post to me. And it makes Suprsilver look even more Mafia in this context. So you basically think, he's dropped below radar? He's in the middle of our suspicions, and we will lynch him, if he doesn't speak up. Wouldn't really call that below radar. You want to look good by pointing towards things, which seem to contain something worthy, but are either wrong or just useless. And trying to defend your actions/looking active. I really think you could be bussing Supr, who is your Maf buddy. Seriously, we should lynch Supr today. If he flips Maf, I think TvL should be examined really closely. If he flips Town, we should still have an eye on TvL, because of his posting style. Either way, lynching him today wouldn't really be as helpful as to lynch Supr, so I'll go with Supr. I dunno who brought it up, but I'd agree with the vig killing Fank this night. His posts don't get better and his overposting just helps Mafia to hide. Also, I think Web did try to defend Supr on D1, so we might also get some info about him(sorry if I'm wrong about that, I'll reread later). Tl; dr Vote Suprsilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 10:09:22 Love it, Zwiebel. Good post. What do you think about TvL's timing with his J-Cop vote D1 (right after RVZ's). Do you think that looks like a quick shake-off to an easy townie? Before those two voted J-Cop out of nowhere, the fank/supr issue was at the forefront. After that point, things just snowballed and J-Cop was suddenly at 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/22/11 at 10:11:19 Well, I guess I can't do anything right then. I'm off, see you all tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/22/11 at 10:12:53 Votals [4] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, NStride, Zwiebel [4] fank - Goose, padz, Web, RDBU [1] MattV - Scott [1] Web - fank Day ends in 34 hours or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 10:14:43 fank I believe is noob town. Posting a load of shit, but we can easily ignore it/not read it. Suprsilvr would be a good idea, and I would do it except killing him as of now doesn't give us many leads. You might not be a bad kill because of how many leads we would get from it, but the way you've posted has struck me as rather town... I would kill MattV. That post you pointed out is terrible, and yeah he's been posting mainly filler crap. He's also claiming to be pretty inactive now, and we could look back and see who had suspicions/pressures on him early, and essentially be able to clear those players as town (also because they didn't follow the bandwagons in doing so). Good question, and here's one back. Who would you say is the best player to keep alive right now as angel, if it were night right now? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 10:18:35 It seems like people dont want to hear from me... (damm why do people put me in all this dammed if i do, dammed if i dont type situations.) The way i see it if i make posts people wont be bothered reading them... If I suddenly shut up and do a SS for the rest of the day... ill be accused as maf. What i should be doing is trying to see what is best for town... but the way i see it... The entire game the discussion has been based off the three stooges (with random tidbits here and there) I think if SS stays quiet... he must be maf... or scared to confront the truth. Tvl is starting to look suspicious... (thanks to yours truly in a way) in the long run i dont see any benefit from a SS lynch other than to show where loyalties lie. Thats just my opinion though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 10:18:47 2D22283526203922282929224C0 wrote:
comedy shock is maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 10:18:53 55696E6C60725E774D010 wrote:
That doesn't sound like something an innocent would say. Vote: J-Cop That's it from me for day one. I have to admit I didn't contribute much, but I'm normally not the type to make wild accusations. I like to analyze, and I like to do it well; however, that requires a lot of time, which I didn't have this weekend. I'll try to be more "impulsive" in the future.[/quote] @Scott: Just found it, he said he wants to analyse things first before "accusations", but on the other hand he votes J-Cop, just going with the bandwagon and without some good "analysis. Kind of contradictionary. I think the connection between RVZ would be kind of too obvious, since the posts were made within 1 minute...not sure about that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 10:19:15 202F25382B2D342F2524242F410 wrote:
Based on his latest posts, first name that comes to mind is Zwiebel. I'm not so sure about what he did before that but it seems like he's on a good track now. I've had the protect ability in past games and almost always fuck it up so who knows. You're expected to save the strongest townie alive (MVT/Padz/Goose all come to mind) but when you don't know if they are mafia or town and mafia does know, it's tough. I usually end up picking a minor character, because that's who mafia usually shoot at as well. So Zwiebel seems a fair choice. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 10:22:31 123F212D2A2D24480 wrote:
I wasn't trying to imply those two were connected, like you say it's silly to try the whole "OMG YOU TWO SAID THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE MAFIA TOGETHER" line...I was trying to say one of them is likely a mafia trying to start a train on someone that looked really weak at the time because that wagon really took off after that point. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 10:22:43 7C73796477716873797878731D0 wrote:
Lol, we can get loads of information of a Supr Lynch. Also agreed @ Padz. Shock, we can get even more out of a Supr lynch because of your statement just now [smiley=lolk.gif] I think you're just afraid to vote Supr. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 10:26:21 232C263B282E372C2627272C420 wrote:
quotes like this dont help me, dont help my case... I dont know what to think of it.... we have 1 side of people urging me to speak and another side of people saying dont care to what he says... Seeing as something bad for the town will come either way (and i Honestly dont know what is best for town in terms of me,) I reckon... the people who are saying ignore him... would be... passionate town... cause they honestly think my posts are bs... or scum... because they see good info in the posts and dont want this raving idiot to "accidently" catch them out. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 10:26:45 7B41665A534673755D5D56665A5B5C55320 wrote:
I wasn't trying to imply those two were connected, like you say it's silly to try the whole "OMG YOU TWO SAID THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE MAFIA TOGETHER" line...I was trying to say one of them is likely a mafia trying to start a train on someone that looked really weak at the time because that wagon really took off after that point.[/quote] Pretty much agreed, one of them is very likely to be Maf. Both coming up with poor reasoning (RVZ with no reasoning) and jumping on a Town lynch bandwagon. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 10:27:29 Great. At least I'm not being a deadweight. Btw I have a vote on Supr right now Zwiebel... :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 10:30:58 One question I want to ask is? What are the advantages of a SS lynch And a fank lynch? cause both are inevitable... (unless town actually takes control of the game and one of these two ride till the end or get night killed.) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 10:31:22 Oh sorry Shock, I read your post in the wrong way, when you were answering Scott's post. Guess that statement was strange nontheless ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/22/11 at 10:57:06 43795E626B7E4B4D65656E5E6263646D0A0 wrote:
This is a bunch of crap. The current vote count was this after I voted J-Cop 1E35322E335C0 wrote:
Also SuprSilver and Fank's shit wasn't the main thing going on at that moment. You're making stuff up :) 1D302E2225222B470 wrote:
I wasn't trying to imply those two were connected, like you say it's silly to try the whole "OMG YOU TWO SAID THE SAME THING AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE MAFIA TOGETHER" line...I was trying to say one of them is likely a mafia trying to start a train on someone that looked really weak at the time because that wagon really took off after that point.[/quote] Pretty much agreed, one of them is very likely to be Maf. Both coming up with poor reasoning (RVZ with no reasoning) and jumping on a Town lynch bandwagon. [/quote] LOL, everyone had the same poor reasoning to lynch J-Cop, he was inactive. I almost start to think Zwieb and Scott are mafbud's. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 11:10:13 Glad you're contributing RVZ, it's nice to knock another off the "inactive" list. Anyway, here's what I'm thinking. Scott and Shock's role seem to have to have some type of restriction, as Shock is acting completely out of character (unless he's trying a new strat, although doubtful), and Scott seems required to post in bunches. Both are giving analysis, but people are questioning the fact that they are "trolling", and I have feeling it's part of the role. A lot of karters are trolls on this forum, so it makes sense. RDBU is playing the same as last game, when he was noob town, and again proved it in his most recent "vote fank with no reasoning" post. This time he's allowed to spell correctly, but he's still pretty much saying blatant facts without any evidence, which leads me to believe he's town this game. Granted, his current style allows him to follow it pretty easily, but I doubt in his second game he'd have figured that out. SS has gotten back from school, or will in the next hour or so. I want to see him try to give reasoning behind his posts, and not just make another list that shows nothing. If he continues to not post anything of importance I'll switch my vote to him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 11:11:19 @ RVZ But you also voted J-Cop for that "poor reasoning" as you just said. Why then do it in the first place, if there's not much reason behind it? Not that it was like EOD already. And you're just showing up again when someone mentiones you COULD be mafia...so tell me, what do you think would be the best lynch today in your opinion? you haven't said anything useful yet in this game iirc. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 11:12:24 NStride I don't like how you keep passively defending suprsilver. Big deal you have a vote on him. The point is you are still defending him and seemingly making at effort at discouraging other players from voting for him. This really bothers me. Maf leans Fank Supr Ivo NStride Any of these 4 are good targets. I am leaning towards a supr lynch because it would tell us the most. A supr lynch might give away what side nstride is on if my logic holds true. I think whoever doesn't die today should be vig killed at night between fank and suprsilver. However every day fank stays alive causes more and more confusion, and I don't like how ivo defended him and claims he can read into fank's posts which nobody else can claim to do myself included. That's fine that he says he can do it, but i'd like him to try and decipher the posts for the rest of us please! Don't leave us in the dark ivo. If you see some valuable info in fank's posts, please do enlighten the rest of us. Be a good town player mate. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 11:17:58 222E2E3132352433410 wrote:
Just noticed this. I understand TvL is a guy who does analysis and thinks about opinions a lot before he posts (or at least I'm assuming from what I've seen on the forums), but it's much better to post what you think rather than having each and every post say how overwhelmed you are about the current setting. Both KoopZ and TvL seem laid back so far (even though KoopZ has given excuses), and here it looks like KoopZ just defended TvL a little. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 11:31:17 you take it as a defense, i meant it to be just a statement about his posting style. i'm laid back so far cuz the way i see it is still pretty cut and dried: Silver is mafia. i hadnt noticed that scott only posted in bunches until now. from Nstride: Quote:
are you freakin kidding me? i agree with you about fank just being noob town, but that doesnt mean you can just ignore his posts. even the noobs could find something worthy to say from time to time. you cant ignore ANYTHING in this game. Quote:
the number of things that have been posted about silver already would give us all kinds of leads as to where people stand. even if you do have a vote on him, you cant deny that you're defending him? whats the deal? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/22/11 at 11:32:16 4D607E7275727B170 wrote:
It didn't felt like a poor reasoned vote at that time. Cuz what everybody's opinion on J-Cops post were seemed right. I agreed with it, he had to be maf. But he flipped town and all the theories where crushed, he was just lazy and inactive. That automaticly makes ALL the reasoning poor. About lynching today. Fank or SuprSilver right? I actually have a strange gut feeling they'll both flip town if we lynch them, I dunno why. But for me SuprSilver is the most maf-like. I think this is fank's first game right? When I played mafgame the first time I also was mafia. I kept my posting minimal, I was scared. He's posting like mad and I couldn't find any slip in it, just a bunch of crap. Maybe I couldn't find any mafslip in it cuz I also didn't read it very deeply. SuprSilver's additude is more maf-like. After his post edit he just dissapeared. Maybe that he's scared to make another (maf)slip, maybe. It's also possible he just doesn't care since he's just a regular townie, like J-Cop. I think this is the case actually. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 11:32:55 725F414D4A4D44280 wrote:
I can't ever remember making a post defending SS other than saying fank seemed like a better lynch because he would tell us more about affiliations, since he pretty much gave an opinion on every player in the game multiple times. I also find it odd how you were jumping around votes near the end of the day, finally settling on a wagon vote. Several times you posted that "since the town seems to be headed this way, I'll vote x", without much evidence "I don't need to say what's already been said". (I can find the quotes if you want). I would have liked if you had given a little more analysis behind your final votes, and why you decided to switch late in the day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 11:39:28 6B5A53536B5E535A3F0 wrote:
Lets get to the interesting stuff shall we Quote:
That was supposed to happen last night wasnt it??? Dont you think if the maf have a doc the same thing will happen or the vig will get roleblocked??? Quote:
Now bout the confusion of my posts... (so you dont get confused) Are you talking about the general confusion? or are you talking about your confusion... If your confused by my posts on day 2 just ask k mvt... Im sure we can work something out... Quote:
Easy he has a phd in gibberish :P, anyway... Could that be a cover? They say i post confusing post not "I dont understand the posts" your the only one that does that... Quote:
two things i want to say... 1st off if hes maf he would do 1 of 2 things... -A) not do it -B) completly twist the meanings around... (followed by fank going ???) 2nd... Do you really want 100 posts explaing the same shit anyway??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 11:42:28 4B4747585B5C4D5A280 wrote:
;D Says the guy who didn't even have a VOTE on ANYONE Day1. Oh sure. Silver is mafia, more like you've noticed he's dug himself in a hole he can't get out of, will be lynched today, and you want to come out of it clean! Unvote Vote: KoopZ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 11:44:22 46777E7E46737E77120 wrote:
well, you've started bitching about Fank BEFORE the fucking roles were sent out! And, oh so obvious, you continued in game. I am not saying that his posts are great, but it's so clear that you're just in this game to get Fank lynched, not to help town win. With that said, you could also be mafia. My reasoning why he's PROBABLY not mafia is because he posts way too much and doesn't seem to have a clue. What makes you think that mafia's goal is to post as much as possible to create confusion? It's mafia's goal to stay under the radar. With that said, can we please move on, continue to keep an eye on fank, but also on the other players? Please not make this a one issue day. And i'm going to continue reading were i left, at the end of page 18. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 11:49:37 I'm not afraid to die. Go ahead, vote me. It'll only be worse for the town. If I were you, I'd vote for Fank, KoopZ, Web, or Goose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 11:51:08 Next list I will make (coming up after my homework is done :P) will have reason behind it. The only reason I held back last time is because it takes so long to quote one of every person's message. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 11:51:09 5E504E1A0 wrote:
RVZ move, word for word. I think we're going to take you up on your offer. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 11:51:54 3C33392437312833393838335D0 wrote:
RVZ move, word for word. I think we're going to take you up on your offer. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/quote] :D Put me out of my misery right now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 11:53:53 Vote Ivo. I said I wanted to know what you gleaned from fank's posts. I am actually trying to gain information here. Why should we move on. I'd really like to know what you think. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 11:54:48 48474D5043455C474D4C4C47290 wrote:
;D Says the guy who didn't even have a VOTE on ANYONE Day1. Oh sure. Silver is mafia, more like you've noticed he's dug himself in a hole he can't get out of, will be lynched today, and you want to come out of it clean! Unvote Vote: KoopZ [/quote] i barely posted day 1, much less voted and i explained myself for it. if you cant read, its not my fault. nice try shock. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 11:55:04 BTW, I'm handicapped. Can't vote :P You may now consider me a voteless townie. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 11:55:30 5B554B1F0 wrote:
RVZ move, word for word. I think we're going to take you up on your offer. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/quote] :D Put me out of my misery right now.[/quote] No This quote right here is either for us to realize he is townie or Confirm he is maf. (sound familiar goose :P) SS There is bigger fish to fry right now... I will NOT be granting you request at this minute. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 11:56:30 575947130 wrote:
5B554B1F0 wrote:
Taunting the town to vote you? Doesn't seem very helpful imo. unvote Vote : SuprSilver This just pushed me over the edge. Until I see that list, it isn't changing. As confusing as fank is, you don't appear to care that the town might make a mistake and vote you off. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 11:56:38 7E706E3A0 wrote:
what the hell? i'm very interested in seeing your reasons for voting for me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 11:59:39 Ok, i've been reading some more, and i don't think that people have post restrictions, i don't really see shock acting so strange, but i do suspect scott a lot. Normally he's overexcited in these games, and now he just seems to be acting easy, knowing all, etc. What's up scott? A lot easier to post when you know who's mafia? LOL, i just saw suprsilvers reaction! As shock pointed out, that's RVZ's mafia line! I wouldn't mind a suprsilver lynch now. Such poor play. Let's hope he's not dumb enough to post stuff like that when he's town. Acting like the day's all over and stuff. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 11:59:42 to add on to that, i'm also interested in seeing your reasoning behind voting Goose or Web too. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 11:59:57 2428283734332235470 wrote:
what the hell? i'm very interested in seeing your reasons for voting for me.[/quote] I can't vote :P (Multitasking homework and laptop is win) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 12:01:36 1D130D590 wrote:
Wait??? that is a wierd role??? Silenced in the vote but your still talking... are you having us on to believe that you are "innocent" ... or is it a ruse to catch the Maf out... I must say... Nice move for the town... If your maf there is likely no silence role and if you are Town that knowledge helps us. And if there is a silencer may i say to that person... "your doing it wrong" :P @Weber... thats a very quick Irrational Vote... Typical of you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 12:02:16 i know you cant vote, but why would you vote for me? what have i done to make you suspicious of me? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 12:02:55 4D41415E5D5A4B5C2E0 wrote:
What about me??? Its little quotes like these that gain/lose brownie points in my eyes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 12:04:25 you may call it irrational, but any townie that has seemed suspicious the entire game, but laughs in the face of people trying to lynch him and dares them to doesn't really deserve to play in the game. You'd think he'd at least attempt to defend himself. That's why I'm voting him until the list comes up, because I want to see what his current leans are other than the fact that he doesn't care if he gets lynched. Simple logic : If you don't care if you're lynched, you're either a mafia/3rd party giving up, or a townie who doesn't care about helping the town win. Either way, you don't help the town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:04:33 It's hard to tell whether supr is just a n00b vanilla town idiot who gave up on the game or a maf caught in many many lies. Either way I want both fank and silver dead by tomorrow morning. Whoever is not lynched must be night killed. Please vig have the fucking balls to do it. If these 2 are gone I think everyone can play a lot better game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 12:05:11 6B5A53536B5E535A3F0 wrote:
LOL! I gleaned from his post that he's probably town! But that doesn't seem to be enough reason for you. You will only accept if i vote for him and just accept your pregame rage that made it into the game. Yes mvt, you have to accept that i don't vote for people i don't find suspicious, but if you can't accept that, go ahead and leave your vote on me. I think other people can understand my reasoning. Anyway: Vote Suprsilver Suprsilver, can you place a vote please? I want to see whether honko will take it into the votecount |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Night 1 Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 12:05:57 42696E726F000 wrote:
> I can't vote!!11!1 :'( Right. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 12:08:24 I believe he's claiming something happened in the night to make him not be able to vote today. Could be wrong though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 12:08:26 LOL, hadn't checked that yet. I'll go by lynch the liars. How did a voteless townie made a vote on day suprsilver? You're digging yourself in a deep hole here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 12:09:03 7874746B686F7E691B0 wrote:
the number of things that have been posted about silver already would give us all kinds of leads as to where people stand. even if you do have a vote on him, you cant deny that you're defending him? whats the deal?[/quote] First of all, that's not defense, if it was, then he wouldn't talk about me at all. Second of all, the Scott thing really doesn't prove anything. Third of all, if you do agree that Fank is noob town, then stick with it. Why cast suspicion to or away from him? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:09:03 6A554C4C57494650230 wrote:
LOL! I gleaned from his post that he's probably town! But that doesn't seem to be enough reason for you. You will only accept if i vote for him and just accept your pregame rage that made it into the game. Yes mvt, you have to accept that i don't vote for people i don't find suspicious, but if you can't accept that, go ahead and leave your vote on me. I think other people can understand my reasoning. Anyway: Vote Suprsilver Suprsilver, can you place a vote please? I want to see whether honko will take it into the votecount[/quote] I actually have no desire for you to vote for him or for you to explain why he is suspicious! I'm not sure where you read that. You claimed that fank isn't really confusing to you. That implies that you can understand and comprehend what he is saying in his posts. What is he saying? What are his main ideas? In effect I want you to act as his translator for the moment. Tell me what he has been saying all along. Because for me it is like reading Dutch. It makes no sense to me. Many other people share the same sentiment. I'd like to be able to understand the guy or else he is as useless as dead. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 12:09:28 web: well, we can easily check that if he just places a vote and see whether honko will count the vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 12:10:11 Also, the PM said I cannot put a real vote (in bold and all) or else I will get modkilled :X Lynching > Modkill :X |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 12:10:33 05020D0853535A630 wrote:
What about me??? Its little quotes like these that gain/lose brownie points in my eyes.[/quote] i think you're innocent, but i can see why people would vote for you. you're definitely trying to redeem yourself, but first impressions mean everything, and your first impression was horrible. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/22/11 at 12:10:36 4947590D0 wrote:
Wow! Flashback :) I said exactly the same and was in exactly the same situation in the game. I was maf in that past game right? ::) Vote: SuprSilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 12:11:11 Right now I really wish I could show it to you but I can't, if I remember the rules correctly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 12:12:34 5D534D190 wrote:
hahahah, comedy. the rules also say you cant edit your posts (except for minor things). you've disregarded the rules once already, why not do it again? ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:14:54 666A6A7576716077050 wrote:
hahahah, comedy. the rules also say you cant edit your posts (except for minor things). you've disregarded the rules once already, why not do it again? ;D[/quote] [smiley=roll.gif] lol this day is a big joke really. Goose I guess the pre-game plan will come true. J-Cop, silver, and fank are as good as dead. [smiley=smokin.gif] Horrible players. [smiley=bath.gif] I'd be stunned if neither fank or silver are maf / admin. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 12:15:51 You sure voted on D1 dude. Are we really supposed to believe that your role only allows you voting on odd numbered days or something? Unvote Hesitant to put the vote on; I don't want to end the day too early (i.e. before everyone has a say: Sword, Tim, etc.) Votals? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 12:16:30 7E594952545D5D4F3C0 wrote:
Wow! Flashback :) I said exactly the same and was in exactly the same situation in the game. I was maf in that past game right? ::) Vote: SuprSilver[/quote] I never saw that post. Honest. I never check previous games, I don't want suspicions to be carried over. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 12:22:27 Translating for mvt. 282F20257E7E774E0 wrote:
Lets get to the interesting stuff shall we Quote:
That was supposed to happen last night wasnt it??? Dont you think if the maf have a doc the same thing will happen or the vig will get roleblocked??? here he's asking whether it's a good idea if mafia knows who the vig is going to shoot. Quote:
Now bout the confusion of my posts... (so you dont get confused) Are you talking about the general confusion? or are you talking about your confusion... If your confused by my posts on day 2 just ask k mvt... Im sure we can work something out... here he's telling you that you need to ask when you don't get what he's saying. Quote:
Easy he has a phd in gibberish :P, anyway... Could that be a cover? They say i post confusing post not "I dont understand the posts" your the only one that does that... here he's suggesting i could be mafia by saying i understand his posts. I don't get the last sentence, that one is gramatticaly and spelling wise enough fucked up. Quote:
two things i want to say... 1st off if hes maf he would do 1 of 2 things... -A) not do it -B) completly twist the meanings around... (followed by fank going ???) 2nd... Do you really want 100 posts explaing the same shit anyway??? this one doesn't really need explanation[/quote] Hope my colors work in a quote Basicly, just read them carefully, i know that his english is terrible. I do agree that this post for example said nothing at all. Some were better, but none of them were great. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 12:23:00 4F404A5744425B404A4B4B402E0 wrote:
Just saying here, it looks like you're backing of SS again as others have said. I know it's important to let everyone talk, but I'm just noting this if SS dies and we see his final affiliation. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 12:23:38 MOST IMPORTANT POINT ANYONE WILL MAKE TODAY as long as fank009 is alive, the town will be distracted by his inept posting, unintelligent remarks and inability to be useful as a town member. This overall harms the team. We MUST lynch him today if we want to clear out the cancer for a better shot at mafias in the future. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:26:37 Thanks for a basic translation. I may need more of them later if fank somehow manages to make it into D3. Unvote Vote NStride You though...you are scummy as fuck man. I knew you would do this. I had a really strange feeling that you would not hold your vote the whole day. I was actually going to post "bet you can't hold that vote on suprsilver the whole day" Boy oh boy was I right. I knew your vote on silver wasn't meant to stay. You placed a vote on him. So what. Then you go and start defending him, with your vote still on him. Now that the votes are adding up you don't want him to die so you unvote. I saw that coming MILES away. Comedy. You are maf dude. 8-) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 12:26:49 I'm a huge supporter for that, however can't the vig just kill him or something? If fank turns up noob town (which I doubt) it will be a waste of lynch, when SS just looks atrocious right now. I guess it can swing either way, but as others have said, both need to be dead by D3. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 12:28:13 Goose trying to save Silvr, lolwat? [smiley=roll.gif] This is why I don't put the vote on if I'm not sure it would end the day Web, but trust me that's the only thing holding me back. Keep quacking goose. ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 12:29:30 Anyway, i'll stop about fank, last time i defended a player it got me lynched. And that player was mafia. So i'll let him do his own defense. I do agree he's asking a lot of attention, and if we don't lynch him he'll be here till the end of the game, as mafia won't see him as a treat, and if he's mafia he'll just be here laughing. Looking at it from that side, a fank lynch wouldn't be bad. We can still make mistakes now, but we can't waste day 4 or day 5 wondering if fank's mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 12:30:23 yup, silvr is waaaay more sus than anyone else right now. silver, why could you vote day one and not day two? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 12:33:04 SuprSilver is 12 years old. What do you expect... he's going to be some freaking genius solving the game for us? Think about how you would interact with a bunch of 16-24 year olds when you were 12 years old. This is really ridiculous. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 12:33:10 062E2E322473410 wrote:
this is a very important point, especially if fank flips town and suprsilver flips mafia. you're trying to save your mafia pal. holy fuck i have no idea what to think anymore, except that silver still needs to go. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:33:22 000F05180B0D140F0504040F610 wrote:
He sure gives us one big lead...YOU. 7A4B42427A4F424B2E0 wrote:
I explicitely called you on it here. I wish I would have added the line about betting that your vote would not stay on him. ;D Because I would have taken that bet in a heartbeat. 747B716C7F79607B7170707B150 wrote:
Cha-ching. Just as I predicted. You really had no intention of voting off silver. Can anyone not see how obviously shock is maf? I think silver is his maf buddy too. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 12:34:18 i have to go again. i hope the town comes to a good decision. i've already made mine, and my vote has been on Silver since the day started. cya later guys. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 12:35:39 I agree, but lynching SS will tell us about NStride, Goose and others while lynching NStride will pretty much just tell us about SS. Thus SS makes more logical sense to lynch right now. I do think NStride looks scum though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 12:36:29 02333A3A02373A33560 wrote:
Yeah. Cause real townies never, EVER, change their votes. [smiley=roll.gif] To the contrary, trying to defend him at this point would be a really dumb move as a mafia, and I would go with the flow of the votes. (lololol Goose) Look into how I am as a person a little more, fuckface. I'm not one to accuse, and I like trying to defend people if I can. (Terrence Fenner in MKSC, giving people the benefit of the doubt time updating). In this game I'm supposed to imitate you though, i.e. why I'm a douchebag. [smiley=beer.gif] (If you don't believe me, look at my huge hint early on with my first post "cheap shot" at you.) Suprsilver with a power mafia role? Only way I think I can explain to myself why Goose would try to defend him and change the spotlight so hard. In that case, count me in in this fine bandwagon. Vote: Suprsilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 12:37:03 Lynching SuperSilver tells you nothing about me. If he's mafia, then I WAS WRONG. OH NOW, I'M A FALLIBLE BEING OF THE UNIVERSE. If he's town, then I WAS RIGHT. OH WOW THERE'S ONLY A 75% CHANCE OF BEING RIGHT THAT SOMEONE IS TOWN AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME. I really don't want to derail this thread into a big goosefest but I might have to do it in order for us to get anywhere. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 12:38:41 Like seriously If SuprSilver flipps mafia, YOU WILL ALL THINK I WAS A MAFIA BRO TRYING TO PROTECT HIM If SuprSilver flips town, YOU WILL ALL THINK I AM MAFIA AND KNEW HE WAS TOWN AND WAS AGAINST HIS LYNCH SO I WOULD LOOK GOOD You're all ridiculous. Okay I have to do chores but this evening the game is going to get derailed and overrun by me so we can actually win. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:40:35 If I agree to vote silver...I'll finish him off over fank....but...people gotta remember how scummy NStride is tomorrow. If silver flips maf, shock has to be the lynch tomorrow, no doubt about it. If silver flips maf I will not remove my vote from NStride the entire day tomorrow under any circumstances. The two are definitely connected. NStride had NO INTENTIONS WHATSOEVER for keeping his vote on Silver. Goose's last second plunge into the argument defending silver is also bothersome. No doubt Silver is scummy as fuck. I just would hate if his connection with shock was lost because it's concrete definitive evidence that connects the two of them. Also vig, have the balls to kill fank tonight, you fucking pussy. Unvote Vote Silver gimme a vote count... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:42:21 3A353F2231372E353F3E3E355B0 wrote:
Yeah. Cause real townies never, EVER, change their votes. [smiley=roll.gif] To the contrary, trying to defend him at this point would be a really dumb move as a mafia, and I would go with the flow of the votes. (lololol Goose) Look into how I am as a person a little more, fuckface. I'm not one to accuse, and I like trying to defend people if I can. (Terrence Fenner in MKSC, giving people the benefit of the doubt time updating). In this game I'm supposed to imitate you though, i.e. why I'm a douchebag. [smiley=beer.gif] (If you don't believe me, look at my huge hint early on with my first post "cheap shot" at you.) Suprsilver with a power mafia role? Only way I think I can explain to myself why Goose would try to defend him and change the spotlight so hard. In that case, count me in in this fine bandwagon. Vote: Suprsilver [/quote] Well it's pretty damn easy to go back on what you said after I called you out on it scum. It was your only move left to just axe your maf buddy now that I caught you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:43:19 062E2E322473410 wrote:
It's hard to avoid...you shouldnt have jumped in last minute defending silver it looks weird. However I'll take NStride over you any day for tomorrow's lynch if silver flips maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 12:44:21 517979657324160 wrote:
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DEFENDING HIM UNLESS YOU KNOW THAT HE IS A MAFIA POWER PLAYER. Jesus Christ. And if you lynch me tomorrow, I'll be sure to reveal my role and I know I can cast light on some more things in the process. But seriously, have I EVER left my vote on one person the whole day in a mafia game? [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 12:45:42 0E3F36360E3B363F5A0 wrote:
Yeah. Cause real townies never, EVER, change their votes. [smiley=roll.gif] To the contrary, trying to defend him at this point would be a really dumb move as a mafia, and I would go with the flow of the votes. (lololol Goose) Look into how I am as a person a little more, fuckface. I'm not one to accuse, and I like trying to defend people if I can. (Terrence Fenner in MKSC, giving people the benefit of the doubt time updating). In this game I'm supposed to imitate you though, i.e. why I'm a douchebag. [smiley=beer.gif] (If you don't believe me, look at my huge hint early on with my first post "cheap shot" at you.) Suprsilver with a power mafia role? Only way I think I can explain to myself why Goose would try to defend him and change the spotlight so hard. In that case, count me in in this fine bandwagon. Vote: Suprsilver [/quote] Well it's pretty damn easy to go back on what you said after I called you out on it scum. It was your only move left to just axe your maf buddy now that I caught you.[/quote] My only move left as town too. I screwed up. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 12:47:12 We still don't know the reason why suprsilver cannot vote today. Come on man at least tell us. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:48:14 38373D2033352C373D3C3C37590 wrote:
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DEFENDING HIM UNLESS YOU KNOW THAT HE IS A MAFIA POWER PLAYER. Jesus Christ. And if you lynch me tomorrow, I'll be sure to reveal my role and I know I can cast light on some more things in the process. But seriously, have I EVER left my vote on one person the whole day in a mafia game? [smiley=roll.gif] [/quote] The problem is you placed a vote on Silver. Started defending him with your vote still on him. Then I called you out on doing that. Then Silver is about to get lynched and you unvote. Then I call you out again on it. Then you replace the vote knowing you fucked up. You wanted to give off the image that you were against your buddy Silver by voting for him. However all along you defended him and I'm sure that was the plan you thought of in your mind. Then when it came down to crunch time you unvote. You got lured and saw a chance that fank could still be the one lynched so you took a shot at it. Unfortunately you got caught pretty badly and now your only move was to quickly revote for Silver. That's about as obv maf as it gets. You and silver are connected either way. Let's see how he flips... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 12:49:45 He's offline. Imo it just adds to the suspicion. Not willing to stand around and defend himself. I understand the 12 factor but even so, he is unhelpful to the town regardless of his town/mafia affiliation, will tell a huge amount of info about other players, and is completely unwilling to try and defend himself. Didn't he say he was going to make another list with reasoning? Even if he's "unable to vote" because of a night action or something he can still make a list with his suspects. EDIT - directed @Ivo of course. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:51:22 So in essence you were prepared to bus him off if you absolutely had to. But you saw a chance that you could save him at the last minute so you took that chance and it blew up in your face. You wanted to have a nice voting record and appear that you actually were against silver if he was lynched and flipped maf so when people went back they can say, oh look NStride voted silver he is town. Believe me it was a nice plan. But things do not always go according such cool plans. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 12:54:04 1D2C25251D28252C490 wrote:
Your argument is fucking laughable. [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 12:55:23 You know goose... Ever since our 1st talk, i have been thinking... What you told me when you were maf, could you be doing the same thing? Leading a noob town lynch to gain favour with town? *mvt nods in agreement* or is it because... You can make sense of my posts, *mvts jaw drops* you see that i signal out as a threat and you see me as a threat as a result. *mvt starts coughing like he has asthma* could it be you have in your mind goose... That fank is potentially a great player *mvt is rushed to the hospital after excessive laughter* if any lynch will tell us anything it is yours. In terms of me it will reveal my alleigance to the town. Ill cast my vote later. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 12:56:29 Night plan. No matter how silver flips... Vig - kill fank Scanner - scan Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 13:05:41 457A63637866697F0C0 wrote:
Because I told you I was handicapped :| |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 13:12:32 Btw, I tried to count the votes on Silver, I think he has 8. 10 is the amount needed for majority lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 13:15:38 3E313B2635332A313B3A3A315F0 wrote:
BECAUSE SUPRSILVER IS LESS DESTRUCTIVE TO THE TOWN THAN FANK009 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 13:18:16 Also: 406B6C706D020 wrote:
If you are on this list, you need to post more. Either way, it's probably beneficial to keep tabs on inactives as the day reaches its peak (i.e. when a lynch is about to occur). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 13:19:34 Eh, maybe not Tim; that list is a biased estimate I guess. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 13:22:40 I'd really like something like a stat-page or something, since I think Koopz and Darius haven't posted much either...can't be arsed to count posts from different players ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 13:24:14 just update the mafia.cgi page, I can PM shadow or whoever is in charge of it once i get back. For now, dinner and a run. I'll be back on in a few hours. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 13:25:13 567E7E627423110 wrote:
BECAUSE SUPRSILVER IS LESS DESTRUCTIVE TO THE TOWN THAN FANK009[/quote] lmao. Then just tell or shout out to the vig to kill fank tonight. Supersilvr is the clear lynch for today, even from the breaking of "dawn." In other words, what you have said is not close to a good enough reason considering you are a smart town player. It will be very explainable though if silver flips maf though. :) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 13:26:23 Okay fine unvote vote: SuprSilver let's see what you got |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 13:31:55 If I get lynched, please tell everyone that I WAS handicapped, Honko. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 13:36:02 I don't think he will do that, even if it was the case. Just a reminder, Silver has 9 votes on him now. Just so everyone is aware that the next vote will be the last for the day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 13:38:36 unvote this is fucking stupid He's HANDICAPPED. Why wouldn't you believe that? You're all a bunch of sickos. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 13:41:57 I don't see what the handicap thing has to do with him being Mafia or Town. It could very well be that a Town PR did that to him, because he thought that he is Maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 13:48:19 fuck GOOSE you're SO FUCKKING USELESS TO TOWN! why do you not want to know why he's handicapped why do you not want to know whether he's lying Fucking crucial information that he refuses to tell, and you're acting like it's fucking ok that he doesn't tell. Off course he's first to die as long as he doesn't tell us that information suprsilver: please tell how you lost your vote as you had one on day 1, just saying you're handicapped doesn't help town at all. And as a "townie" you shouldn't leave us so confused. Unvote for now because we still have over one day and i don't want to end this day early. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 13:50:12 He's obv handicapped because the mafia have a handicapper and they wanted to make his mislynch really easy today. Now ask yourself... why is FANK NOT HANDICAPPED? BECAUSE HE IS ONE OF THE MAFIAS vote: fank009 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 13:51:16 Camster, ADMIN Handicapper. It's possible Cam handicapped him Night 1, which is why he can't vote today? Which would be why Honko PMed him...? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 13:51:32 poor reasoning, why are you not handicapped? because you are one of the mafias? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 13:53:17 And then handicapping Suprsilver of all people only makes sense as a Mafia member, like Goose said... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 13:53:41 I'm not handicapped because even if I was, I wouldn't be an easy mislynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 13:54:48 477861617A646B7D0E0 wrote:
What? You're talking to Goose I think judging by the post time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 13:55:31 thank you shock, i had not seen that. Makes the chances of suprsilver being town much bigger. Have we had other people who cannot vote? btw, it was sportsguy who was the handicapper To be fair, i'm actually starting to believe suprsilver is town now. Can everyone who has not voted yet today make a vote to see whether suprsilver is the handicapped townie |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 13:56:06 4B444E5340465F444E4F4F442A0 wrote:
You're messing things up, Camster is Town Spril and Sportsguy was Admin Handicapper. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 13:57:40 yes, i was talking to goose in that post. Ok, so chances are now, suprsilver is a superpoor town player that got handicapped and our vig shot the handicapper as a confirmation for us This changes a lot for me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 14:00:54 Yeah I mixed that up. My bad, I was too excited and cba to check the start of day post way back. ;D Unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 14:04:22 The way i see it... SS is the best lynch But it may not reveal anything bout anyone so to make my opinion clear... here we go again... duck duck duck rooster duck UNVOTE Vote: Goose Please Note A fank vig kill is BAD for goose; if he turns up town... Makes him more suspicious Could be 3 distinct parties... (like a 2nd maf clan) but i cant confirm. otherwise SS is town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 14:05:22 it all makes sense now. We should read more carefully into honko's posts and the roles. Ok, where did we left of, lynching fank? I've got some more players i don't trust at all, but i first want to see what other people think on suprsilver now that we know that mafia had in fact a handicapper. I really do not think that mafia would handicap each other, neither do i think that there's some stand alone serial killer role with silencer abilities. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 14:06:47 "SS IS THE BEST LYNCH" *votes Goose* Seriously. Is this the fuckin Truman Show or something? I CAN'T be the only one who is seeing this. This is the most ridic thing I've ever seen in my entire life. I can't even describe it in words. It doesn't make sense. Fank is a lock mafia. NO TOWNIE EVER DOES WHAT HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS GAME. WHEREAS A 12 YEAR OLD TOWNIE MIGHT ACT LIKE SUPRSILVER IS ACTING. ITS FUCKING COMMON LOGIC Y OU MORONS HOLY FUCK |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 14:09:46 goose, read the last few posts, basicly, suprsilver is confirmed as handicapped by the mafia, shock pointed out that mafia in fact had a handicapper, it was sportsguy who was killed tonight. I think this lowers the heat on SS by a lot |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 14:11:01 and yes, that post by fank was truly moronic. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 14:14:40 6B43435F491E2C0 wrote:
remember we are talking about a noob who is emotionally distraught in real life. Reason why SS is the best lynch... all he is going to say today is... im handicapped so i cant vote. I have already listed my reasons for voting you goose and im 100% certain that a "great" player like you would have seen it coming for certain. Now MVT about your suggestion... 09383131093C31385D0 wrote:
Its a good idea except... i dont have much faith in anyone at this moment of time to safely say that you wont need me to "influence" the goose argument... but if convo keeps going the way it goes i think it be allright then if i was vig killed... But we need more Anti-goose supporters before i am "happy" to be vig killed. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 14:17:14 576871716A747B6D1E0 wrote:
thanks i was long due for one :P To Goose... I have been a prime target to lynch since the first hours of the first day... Since you are such a great player... Tell me how a Maf would react and how a town would react to last as long as possible... [smiley=dankk2.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 14:21:38 No, the reason why SS was the best lynch was because there was a big chance he was lying, keeping information from us, and therefore extreme mafia like. But i changed my opinion on him for reasons explained in my last few posts or so. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 14:24:23 More "anti-goose" supporters before you are "happy" to be vig killed? [smiley=lolk.gif] Goose just led the wagon off suprsilver, and I don't think any maf would do that for "good looks" that close to an easy lynch, especially since the original plan WAS an easy suprsilver kill it seems. Try someone else. [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 14:27:22 You know i should keep track of all the times im given the "your doing it wrong" speech. Right now Goose is the person i most suspect as mafia. That is the ONLY reason im going to keep my vote on him... apart from SS no one else looks as dodgy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 14:27:48 Also, I think it would be a good idea to take a look at the early supporters of the Suprsilver lynch, near the beginning of the day. The mafia would be wanting to set the tone early and avoid a bandwagon near the end. Brings back KoopZ's "Keeping it cut and dry: Supr is maf, that's all that needs to be said" to mind... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 14:31:48 556064666D4E6477716077050 wrote:
First vote on Suprsilver. Way before Supr even made his first post. This guy is also on the list of inactive players, and has been wishywashy all game. Brings back old points, then softbusses by supporting a fank-lynch mentality too. Modified once to remove bold in quote vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 14:33:39 Nstride:??? are you giving me a list of people i can vote for??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 14:36:04 020E0E1112150413610 wrote:
Yes, let's fight the wolf power brothers! Along with the good ol' "I won't be able to post again for a while." This whole post is also a reiteration of what's already been said, although it was given more effort to look like it had meat. Tack this on to his statement that I've said before about Supr's maf, end of story, and we have maf written all over this dude. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 14:37:29 32353A3F64646D540 wrote:
You fucking moron, no I'm not, I'm doing this thing that you've failed miserably at so far called posting useful information. [smiley=roll.gif] [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 14:44:55 SS did not change my opinion on him himself by the way, he is playing poor in general. Anyway, for other players, i want to focus a little on Darius right now. I remember him as a good player. (he was possibly the best player in a game like a year ago where he had some night immune overpowered role, he was like the only confirmed townie in that game) Thusfar he's playing pretty bad: 1 he's the one who basicly started the heat on suprsilver both on day 1 and day 2. Combined with the fact that he is mafia he knew that the plan was to get suprsilver out as an easy day target. That's why they probably decided to handicap SS, making it even easier. Quote:
A Darius post made day one, the first lines are so scummy that they make my eyes bleed. Off course nobody agrees with deleting posts, it's against the rules. But he's basicly advocating here that people can not change their minds at all! Only mafia picks on stuff like that. It gets even worse after that. Quote:
More complaining litterary about nothing! Fact is, every TOWN player has a list in his head, there's just some players that you trust more and some that you trust less, and they change all the time. It's fine to post such a list, and post a totally different list later on. But why do i think this is suspicious? Well, it's a typical thing i did wrong when i was mafia, just complaining about other peoples "mind changing" I've also seen it plenty of other mafia's do. In general, it's also a strong way to lynch "inconsistent" players, as town will often believe it as a strong town read on a mafia. While in fact, it's the other way around. Besides that, darius other posts were really poor, normally he adds way more in his posts, and except for his attention on suprsilver, he basicly said nothing about anyone. You maf? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:46:45 283A3D36313E2B302D6E6B5F0 wrote:
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You're on his list, why do you want him to make another list accusing you? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 14:47:53 In my opinion, saying Fank is "stupid town" seems like defense for him. While I'm not sure this is mafia-like, it might be a hint... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:49:37 5B647D7D66787761120 wrote:
Pretty clear he's claiming that a handicapper (oh hi Sportsguy) silenced him at night. Supr is not smart enough to connect that and make this up (is he?) on his own so either he's got some friendly mafia buddies trying to clear him here or he's actually handicapped. I'll vouch for the latter. 4649435E4D4B524943424249270 wrote:
Nice clear. Now that we know we're on the same side let's try to reduce our earlier friction. Just try to take a slightly calmer approach so you don't feel so offensive to people. :) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/22/11 at 14:50:31 Fuck me, just skimmed the last few pages. Just letting you know I'm here, going to reread and let you know what I think but wtf at everything :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:50:49 4265756E68616173000 wrote:
This is a bunch of crap. The current vote count was this after I voted J-Cop 1E35322E335C0 wrote:
Also SuprSilver and Fank's shit wasn't the main thing going on at that moment. You're making stuff up :)[/quote] Sorry man, but you've got it wrong. That vote count was a bit out of date. When you and TvL hopped on the J-Cop wagon, Fank was in 2nd place in votes (Zwiebel switched) and Goose was really pounding for Fank. The whole mood was fank at that point but you two kinda slid in early with the J-Cop votes. To me it looks like you were just town too lazy to do much reasoning so shipped a quick vote off to a good candidate. 754A53534856594F3C0 wrote:
Like I said before, half the people in this game have absolute zero clue what is going on. Most of my posts are just expressing things that have happened plainly so these non-readers can have a chance at understanding what's happening. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 14:52:50 Silver + NStride + Goose = coalition. Silver is about to die and these 2 are DESPERATELY trying to save him. It's so blatant that it's retarded. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:53:46 4F4546455B453C0 wrote:
Yeah I've just come back as well and when people were getting close to voting off suprsilver (WHY THE FUCK????) was hoping nothing had gotten to majority. Glad to see you're here Tim. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:55:43 7C4D44447C49444D280 wrote:
http://www.akkuza.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/tunnel_vision.jpg MVT you and Goose have the worst tunnel vision of all time here. Can we get something out of you two other than "fank fank fank supr supr supr" and other people associated with them? You are both all about "keeping fank from ruining the game" but the thing ruining it is you two not saying anything about any player other than those two. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 14:55:44 I would Scott, except some dumbass game admin gave me a role that... well let's just say "My role fucking sucks" Which it does. [smiley=roll.gif] We'll see about being on the same team though. Back "on topic" -> I think Darius and KoopZ should be the focus if not for the rest of the day, the next few hours. I also have a maf lean on RDBU. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 14:56:01 Just read shocks post. And i also totally agree on rdbu possibly being mafia! Well actually, i remember that he was the downfall of town in my game. Having him around the entire game was a terrible drag for town because it led to several lynched townies as he would just blindly follow mafia. If he's town: he's such a poor player that he could be our downfall if we keep him around. If he's mafia: just lynch him. I actually think he could very well be mafia. Fact is, he also blindly votes if he's town. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:56:33 FUCKING REVERSED POSTS AGAIN THIS IS SO FLIPPING EPIC I HAVE NO IDEA TWICE NOW: http://www.upload.speedrunwiki.com/images/misc/ReversedPosts2.png INSANE Edit: Oh shit, misread the timestamps there lol. I guess 44 is after 43. But the earlier one was reversed: http://www.upload.speedrunwiki.com/images/misc/ReversedPosts.png |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:57:44 4C43495447415843494848432D0 wrote:
I take it this is you accusing KoopZ of mafness? I agree wholeheartedly with your analysis of his posts so far. 5341464D4A45504B561510240 wrote:
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This is the most retarded fucking thing I've seen so far in this game. Worse than Fank even. A role restriction to make me post in bunches? Maybe it's that I sometimes do things like SLEEP or EAT or GO TO CLASS meaning when I get back there are 100 posts to sort through. Since I'm actually looking at more things than: <Goose> FANK FANK FANK FANK <MVT> FANK SUPR FANK SUPR FANK SUPR I have more than 1 post to make every time I return. Yes, take this as me saying I have no role restriction requiring me to post in bunches. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 14:58:28 Page for sale Anyway the point of this was to get http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi At the top of the page so everyone sees it. Someone was asking earlier even though it's been set up the whole game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:01:27 0130393901343930550 wrote:
Add me to the coalition, i truly believe that silver is handicapped now that i saw that mafia has a handicapper, he fucking died tonight without anyone noticing. No, i do not believe handicapper would handicap someone from his own team. Although i'm fairly sure he would have done that if he knew he would die tonight, good job by our vig. I also do not believe that he handicapped someone else and that this person is not speaking today, but it would be nice if everyone would make a "test vote" Don't exactly know who all voted today? We know suprsilver is handicapped, but is he alone? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:03:59 Well it appears everyone is willing to take a step back and rethink. This still seems like a mad scramble by the mafia to me though. Scott I'm sorry but how can you not observe the apparent connection between NStride and Silver and also Goose? To me it's clear as day and I'm becoming pretty damn sure silver is maf. The NStride and Goose banter looks so terrible the last page or two. I have said it before and I will say it again. NStride has no intention whatsoever of actually keeping his vote on Silver. He never had that intention. Even when his vote was on Silver he was telling people to vote elsewhere. Now that he has Goose on his side and got a change in momentum he jumped right back off of Silver. People are now probably going to just take the easy way out and vote fank off and let Goose run the table of opinions and shove a last ditch wagon off the cliff with fank in it. Don't get me wrong I'd love fank to be dead. But we gain an infinite amount of knowledge more from a silver lynch. If silver is maf and I believe him to be, then Nstride definitely has to be maf and Goose most likely is maf. I really hope I see some posts from padz and sword on this. I know I'm not talking out of my ass here and hopefully at least they will have the brains to see my points. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:06:31 615E47475C424D5B280 wrote:
Add me to the coalition, i truly believe that silver is handicapped now that i saw that mafia has a handicapper, he fucking died tonight without anyone noticing. No, i do not believe handicapper would handicap someone from his own team. Although i'm fairly sure he would have done that if he knew he would die tonight, good job by our vig. I also do not believe that he handicapped someone else and that this person is not speaking today, but it would be nice if everyone would make a "test vote" Don't exactly know who all voted today? We know suprsilver is handicapped, but is he alone?[/quote] ADMIN = Mafia :-? And you are sure of that? I still was susp of you too by the way. My maf leans have not changed but you can add Goose to that list now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:06:42 06373E3E06333E37520 wrote:
I see a lot more connection between you and Goose than anyone else in the game because your posts both sound exactly the same. As far as Shock goes, he's cleared in my book for thinking Cam was the Handicapper. If that's a fake-forget I'll have to eat my socks later. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:11:46 79484141794C41482D0 wrote:
Add me to the coalition, i truly believe that silver is handicapped now that i saw that mafia has a handicapper, he fucking died tonight without anyone noticing. No, i do not believe handicapper would handicap someone from his own team. Although i'm fairly sure he would have done that if he knew he would die tonight, good job by our vig. I also do not believe that he handicapped someone else and that this person is not speaking today, but it would be nice if everyone would make a "test vote" Don't exactly know who all voted today? We know suprsilver is handicapped, but is he alone?[/quote] ADMIN = Mafia :-? And you are sure of that? I still was susp of you too by the way. My maf leans have not changed but you can add Goose to that list now.[/quote] I am fairly sure that no other faction would get a handicapper. So yeah, admin = mafia |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:12:45 I agree, Ivo. Guess I took "Handicapper" too literally earlier since it is what Penev does and I don't know all the role names properly. A 3rd party person with the handicapping role seems silly. However then the kills from last night seem really really messed up. Why would the mafia kill the person that (to me at least) was the first target for the next day in Cam? :-X |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 15:14:54 I think we are all conclusive when Admin=Mafia... Good step for the town... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:15:28 Now I'm just confused... :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:18:47 I guess it does make sense though. Similar roles have been in the past and were all mafia roles. I wouldn't go as far to say that with any certainty that admin = mafia though. I'd really like to hear from the inactives now... Zarkov Padz Sword (irc crew lol) Where do we turn? I still don't feel one bit good about suprsilver or NStride or that whole seemingly obvious coalition. Also Koopz and RDBU opinions from you guys? Fuck, my head is spinning. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 15:20:35 over the rest of the night I am going to quote every fank post and explain why it's a post a mafia makes but a townie does not make. not responding to anything until this is done. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 15:21:07 0130393901343930550 wrote:
??? your confused at a simple comment like that??? All im saying is that we know a identity and that it is the main maf group... Anyway lets hear from the inactive... i made a promise to honko not to make more than 50 posts today :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 15:21:24 MVT, I know it's hard for you to grasp this because you are so clearly anti-fank no matter what, but I have this thing called changing my vote when new evidence/material presents itself. You call me out for leaving my vote on Silver and talking about other people, and you call me out for taking my vote off him when I'm clearing thinking about other people. What the fuck? Your ability to see a conspiracy theory behind everything amazes me. Vote: KoopZ For reasons that I have outlined earlier: terrible second post on Suprsilver near the beginning of the day. Quote:
The vig took out sportsguy Sportsguy handicapped Suprsilvr (Mafia have plan of pushing Suprsilver lynch) The mafia kill Cam (His unusual posting implies a power role?) I'm going to need to reread a bit of Day1 though and try to see who the lynch for the next day was being implied... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:22:15 I really hate to do it. When I make a vote I like to make a stand and hate to bail out on it. But I'm really genuinely not sure of anything anymore. This is really confusing and I will humbly admit my confusion. I shouldn't put myself in a position to have my vote count when I am this unsure of things. I'll take a step back and read read read more stuff. I hope we get more posts from the less busy posters (the inactives). ughhh unvote I may revote for silver later though if I am not satisfied with the cases made against other people. I won't be leading another bandwagon though like I did with silver today. Apparently that hasn't worked out too well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:24:17 3037383D66666F560 wrote:
??? your confused at a simple comment like that??? All im saying is that we know a identity and that it is the main maf group... Anyway lets hear from the inactive... i made a promise to honko not to make more than 50 posts today :P[/quote] I'm not confused at your single post fank. I'm just confused in general. My stance on you is that I would not be in favor of lynching you today, but I'd like a vig to night kill you still. Sorry bud. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:24:25 56676E6E56636E67020 wrote:
You speak truth. I've been trying to avoid calling for it but it's getting gross now. Why don't you try to get padzis to speak. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:26:08 I see it like this: Night 1 Mafia shoots Cam, don't ask me why, but he's just a solid player i guess. Mafia silences suprsilver as an easy target for today. Vig or Serial Killer shoots Sportsguy, who happens to be the handicapper Day 2 Town/Mafia blindly go after suprsilver Suprsilver cannot defend himself because he's too poor of a player, making several mistakes along the line. Halfway the day we find out that sportsguy had the handicapper role and we understand what the role exactly is Peoples opinions change on suprsilver and we're looking for a new target now. The last few pages have given me great insight in who i think is mafia, and especially, who i think is town. Time to re-evaluate. Imo the mafia is hiding in the dark. RDBU, Darius, Timothy, TVL, RVZ just some players we really need to look closer in. about 28 hours left. Should be enough to discuss a lot. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 15:27:09 04030C0952525B620 wrote:
This is a very silly post. No one has come close to roleclaiming. There's a good chance that his mafia buddies talked to him before the game started and explained to him the rules of the game and possible outcomes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:27:56 69564F4F544A4553200 wrote:
Dingdingding, but you missed a couple folks. Missing Padz, Zarkov :) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 15:28:13 23242B2E75757C450 wrote:
Is this to suggest there are more than 2 parties in this game going for the win??? (eg a serial killer or something...)[/quote] Meh this post honestly makes it sound like fank is a member of the ADMIN team, or at least he knows that there are 3 parties. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:29:03 Members viewing this topic (11): Camster, Ivootjes (replying), MVT (replying), KoopZ, Goose (replying), fank009 (replying), NStride, padz, IsThatAGoodTime, Darius, Zwiebel (replying). EPIC! Six people posting at one time. This is great. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:29:47 i guess there's something like ~50% active and ~50% inactive, and i also think that there's like 1 active mafia and 3 inactive mafia, if not 4 inactive mafia, so lynching an inactive is for sure the best idea today. You don't want to end up with all inactive players alive. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 15:31:07 4B4C43461D1D142D0 wrote:
yeah... i was wondering whether too add the fact about the serial killer idea... (think i did a run on koopa cape... then i came back to the post... I knew i was around the 5 min mark and thought that leaving out the idea of serial killers would be a noob move... (the edit itself was a noob move :P) rest assured it wont happen again (to that extremeness.)[/quote] This is role netural On which game is KOOPA CAPE tho? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 15:32:07 There's kind of a contradiction in all of this. Why the fuck did Mafia handicap silver? I doubt they would do it if they wanted to easily lynch him, since if he came out with the fact that he got handicapped, it would be clear that he was Town(as it seems now). At least for those who believed him, and we could easily check by having everyone setting a vote. If Mafia really did that, they'd be kind of stupid, much easier to lynch without it. So there are 2 possibilities left (in my eyes): Either there are 2 Mafia camps, or the Mafia handicapped their own Mafia buddy(if that's even possible). Well, or Mafia is stupid and really did that to dig it's own grave and Silver is Town. Seriously, I still think Silver is Maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:32:23 525D574A595F465D5756565D330 wrote:
Wow...as much as I hate to accept after just railing the fuck out of you the past pages and tearing u a new asshole..... that is a decent rather clear scenario and breaks apart a lot of the crowd of confusion. We did not do an adequate job of analyzing what may have happened in the night and that lead to a lot of bs theories. Hopefully I was wrong and that "coalition" I described was a town one and suprsilver really is just a 12 year old moron townie. I'm not really sure why the mafia took out cam though as Scott also noted. He was looking pretty scummy. Maybe it's just a n00b or inexperienced maf team besides sportsguy who decided to take things into their own hands. Ok inactives speak the fuck up! I need more opinions. I have no idea who I would vote for now. Someone has gotta make a strong case against someone. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:32:32 5F77776B7D2A180 wrote:
Is this to suggest there are more than 2 parties in this game going for the win??? (eg a serial killer or something...)[/quote] Meh this post honestly makes it sound like fank is a member of the ADMIN team, or at least he knows that there are 3 parties.[/quote] No it's not. Mafia normally does not know how much parties there are. They just know their own members. It's a normal pm in a closed game, but i can imagine people not knowing how to interpret that, like Fank. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 15:32:47 67606F6A313138010 wrote:
??? Me being helpful is a noob move??? Yes im new on the forums to the game... you dont know how i play but i do know how this game is supposed to work...If you dont want to accept my words of wisdom... so be it. (i like it how the new guy is considered a threat... Vote: MattV Last time i played and was town i went against the rng and it was right :P[/quote] literallly no logic here. A standard noob mafia random distraction post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:33:24 715959455304360 wrote:
Is this to suggest there are more than 2 parties in this game going for the win??? (eg a serial killer or something...)[/quote] Meh this post honestly makes it sound like fank is a member of the ADMIN team, or at least he knows that there are 3 parties.[/quote] 59727569741B0 wrote:
Well that vanilla PM line's significance toward the existence of a 3rd team is exactly 0, since it's almost a direct quote from the previous normal game Honko hosted. (2 maf vs 7 town) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 15:34:01 19282121192C21284D0 wrote:
??? your confused at a simple comment like that??? All im saying is that we know a identity and that it is the main maf group... Anyway lets hear from the inactive... i made a promise to honko not to make more than 50 posts today :P[/quote] I'm not confused at your single post fank. I'm just confused in general. My stance on you is that I would not be in favor of lynching you today, but I'd like a vig to night kill you still. Sorry bud.[/quote] No hard feelings... Just wondering wouldnt i be better(ish) to keep around??? If i am town... Maf wont vote for me cause im causing "trouble" every day... if Vig dont kill me and if there is no 3rd party serial killer role... You have someone who is "immune" during the night for the town who is still making an active contribution... Bet maybe its too early too think that... Whatever suits you guys best as best for the town... And whatever helps the town so let it be done... But If we are NOT going to lynch SS today... Im going to trust my gut unless someone else comes up more dodgy |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 15:34:11 Okay forget this it's too onerous and no one is going to change their mind plus I've already gone over half of his posts |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 15:35:16 013B1C20293C090F27272C1C2021262F480 wrote:
Are you thewebinator, ADMIN Thread Locker? [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:37:02 7A57494542454C200 wrote:
No, mafia did not know that their handicapper would die. It's a rather normal plan to pick on the weak players during the day. Handicapping them helps. It's really unlucky for mafia that exactly sportsguy dies the first night, gave us so much info. I just noticed that shock posted a post very similar to my night/day actions, i'm clearly thinking the same way here as he is. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:39:12 19263F3F243A3523500 wrote:
Which is why I've had my vote on MattV aka "I post but say nothing, ever" all day. Whole heck of a lot of good that's done! 4A67797572757C100 wrote:
Who else would they use it on. I have no idea how to use a handicapper role. What good does it do if the person is allowed to say they are handicapped? Basically the idea that supr is fake-claiming handicap as a part of the mafia team is something that he wouldn't think up himself (i've said this before, but just restating), so maybe we should look at the circumstances when he first claimed and see if it was implied all day or only suddenly, etc. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:40:04 3639332E3D3B223933323239570 wrote:
I'd rather be Etch, BOSS Thread Deleter Anyway, gonna need to hear something from Padz other than: comedy, koopz is maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:49:43 i wouldn't expect anything from padz, in all games i've seen him play he usually just made 2 or 3 oneliners a day. He does like to think about the game, normally if you ask him something on the irc he has some stories and ideas about the game, but he refuses to post them on the board. He has not played anything different from normal, but as i see several people that i trust (at this moment), chances are that he's mafia in this game. And i won't go into the irc as i want this game to be irc free, but i think honko also checks this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:51:40 He sure has. The worst infraction so far was KoopZ sillying it up. Other than that we've finally had a clean game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 15:51:45 050B15410 wrote:
Don't think we can get much out of this post, first post of him D2 and like " I don't care". 000E10440 wrote:
Where is that "list" you promised? This post is so much crying "I'm Mafia". I mean, since he has been cought "making a list, then editing it", he has been eager to post us lists. He did it one time, but this list he mentiones here never arrived? Why? I can only guess, but I say his Maf buddies told him that a list would make him even more suspicious, so he didn't do it and everyone forgot about it. And lol@ it takes so much time to quote every message. Poor excuse. 030D13470 wrote:
RVZ move, word for word. I think we're going to take you up on your offer. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/quote] :D Put me out of my misery right now.[/quote] Same as #1, kind of. 0F011F4B0 wrote:
4 minutes later he posts his restriction. Why didn't he do so in the first place? I guess again, a Maf buddy told him to post it...this is just too obvious for me. I could be wrong, but everything of Supr's posts is just crying to be Mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 15:53:56 how does noticing after the fact that tylers role was handicap prove anything other than that silver actually bothered to look at the deaths :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:54:50 1439272B2C2B224E0 wrote:
... 4 minutes later he posts his restriction. Why didn't he do so in the first place? I guess again, a Maf buddy told him to post it...this is just too obvious for me. I could be wrong, but everything of Supr's posts is just crying to be Mafia. [/quote] If the one you quoted at the start there really was his first post, it seems like his whole story fits. He implied not being able to vote but just didn't say it straight up. If a mafia buddy had planned it, they planned it from the very start not after 3-4 posts of his. You do a great job of looking things up Zwiebel, always willing to look at any situation is a great move. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:55:55 4071746A6560100 wrote:
You're saying you think silver has the brains to: A: Know what a handicapper is B: Imply it from the get-go and then claim it ? I doubt. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 15:56:06 And I just thought about something. If there really are 2 Maf groups, wouldn't it be a good idea to handicap a guy, of who you think he might be in the other Maf group? Would be harder for the Mafia to set up a bandwagon or something similiar. I think this is just as reasonable as all the other assumptions. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 15:56:56 4A70576B627742446C6C67576B6A6D64030 wrote:
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You're on his list, why do you want him to make another list accusing you? :-?[/quote] Although the possibility of being handicapped from a night maf/3rd party is now coming into possibility, I just want reasoning from him. All he's posted is names, anyone can do that, I want reasons. Still re-reading, I'll be back up to speed in a few minutes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 15:58:07 Zweib for me it comes down to the fundamental question. Does Admin = Mafia? NStride made a strong case that it does. I will feel like a sucker and actually do feel like one by not voting silver still. There is a great argument I and others made earlier that he is maf. I feel that way for brief moments but then I actually feel something that NStride may actually be right about what he said. If Admin does not equal mafia then the whole story was made up by the Nstride coalition and silver is maf along with those guys (ivo, goose, nstride, maybe even Scott). For me it is hard to say. That is why I want a lot more opinions especially these motherfucking inactives. RDBU want to bring anything to the table? I'm still dying to hear from padz and sword before long... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 15:58:26 zwiebel, you haven't read anything of the last 3-4 pages right? Why not read more carefully into mine, or shocks or scotts, or even mvts last posts on why we think lynching SS is not the best idea for now. Ok, let me say it this way: Do you think that mafia (admins) used their confirmed handicap role? off course! Do you think they used their handicap role on one of their own? of course not! then how can suprsilver possibly be mafia? other faction? serial killer? or just plain old n00b. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 15:58:38 and what happened to scum feeding him lines? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 15:59:01 677572797E71647F622124100 wrote:
At his level, there aren't reasons to anything. At least not the kind you or I might like. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 15:59:37 08321529203500062E2E251529282F26410 wrote:
Scott, please explain this? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 16:02:03 I see what you're saying I think Zwieb, but it doesn't seem to match up. I remember KoopZ responding to Silver's list of people of who to look into, asking "why??" What if KoopZ is maf, knows Super would flip town, and wanted to get Super to say his reasons so he could shoot them down as illegitimate? Thus he would be effectively off the list and off the radar. The only way I see things line up is is Silver being Town. The case he's plead has been one that a new, 12 year-old townie would plea. His mafia friends would have had the intelligence and the planning to get him to post better. No, I'm pretty sure the path we're on right now is reality. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 16:02:59 664B55595E59503C0 wrote:
Don't think we can get much out of this post, first post of him D2 and like " I don't care". 000E10440 wrote:
Where is that "list" you promised? This post is so much crying "I'm Mafia". I mean, since he has been cought "making a list, then editing it", he has been eager to post us lists. He did it one time, but this list he mentiones here never arrived? Why? I can only guess, but I say his Maf buddies told him that a list would make him even more suspicious, so he didn't do it and everyone forgot about it. And lol@ it takes so much time to quote every message. Poor excuse. 030D13470 wrote:
RVZ move, word for word. I think we're going to take you up on your offer. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/quote] :D Put me out of my misery right now.[/quote] Same as #1, kind of. 0F011F4B0 wrote:
4 minutes later he posts his restriction. Why didn't he do so in the first place? I guess again, a Maf buddy told him to post it...this is just too obvious for me. I could be wrong, but everything of Supr's posts is just crying to be Mafia. [/quote] My last post was in response to this. Wow you people are posting fast. :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 16:03:01 6F686762393930090 wrote:
-I dont know ask the Town Vigs... Mafia must like me so much :P Like i said im pretty sure maf wants me alive and Town wants me dead... Now if i survive a second night vote im either starting to blend or the maf doc is saving me :P. Biggest "maf" target at the moment... fank009. -??? Scott=Cop & RDBU=Scum??? (gameplay certainly shows it.) WAIT... HERE IS A WHAT IF WHAT IF... Admin are the town power roles??? just speculating... We'll find out later. TO GOOSE 664E4E524413210 wrote:
Why dont i belong in this game right now... is this a nub free zone now??? NOT A GOOD EXCUSE. To MVT again 15242D2D15202D24410 wrote:
I must say... was starting to lean Maf but after this post Im (Me, Fank No one else) am more sure your town. And To my mate Weber... 4557505B5C53465D400306320 wrote:
-Let me explain... last game... (which i was town) I had a pivotal opportunity to cast the lynching vote... But since i had dug a grave (like this game) I thought the best me for me would be to not lynch (the person who was about to be lynched had been chosen from a rng and eventually turned out to be maf [smiley=chairshot.gif] to avoid a similar fate (and make me more maf like AS I stated...) i found someone willing to vote for Jcop and decided to end it before people changed their minds in an hour... was it a selfish thing Yes... could we have gotten more info for the town maybe... but i hope you see the two reasons as to why i would vote j-cop off. (town and maf reason) -A maf that is confusing town? why am i confusing... cause you read only a part of my posts. (probably my fault for earlier posts but..) you have applied (some sort of ism dont know what it is yet.) and as a result you see me post you read part of it skimming what you think is the important bits and skipping what you would call the BS. If you read the whole darn post, you might make sense... On another note weber... what if i flip up town??? Those who think i am noob town will have a look at you and say... "He pushed for Fank so He must be Maf" What if you flip town too? that is a lot for the town to lose based of a chain reaction. I had a feeling (20/80 Town/scum) of what j-cop is... None of my feelings on my leans right now are 100% k. Everyone has evidence of why they are town or scum in my opinion. To Everyone Yes im new but im one of those players who has studied up the theory wearing to test it in the field... I dont want to vote SS just in case those who are 1/2 and 1/2 in their opinion about me might see it as a Maf move... When your new there are simple tactics but when you are advanced you have double bluffs, triple bluffs and Stupid idiots (like yours truly) Some general thoughts to think about -Is Goose double bluffing... ( he is the only one to role claim (apart from yours truly) -Is MVT going to stop being grumpy??? -Is TVL going to stop lurking??? -Is Matt v sober (or sane :P) -Is Honko Sane with his roles??? Thats all for now...[/quote] This makes sense. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:03:10 a third faction is likely. a whole lot of people seem to be losing it over tyler's death goose and fank are probably in-league. goose likes to bus scummates early on since nobody ever follows thru w/ early votes after a d1 mislynch |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 16:03:20 103838243265570 wrote:
Scott, please explain this?[/quote] Clearly trying to see what he'd say. He hasn't posted since, sadly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 16:03:31 4574716F6065150 wrote:
uuhm, scum handicapping there own players? after that feeding him lines to keep him alive? what's next? claiming that scum also shot their own handicapper as part of the big overal plan? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 16:04:26 033C25253E202F394A0 wrote:
I'm just looking at it from different angles, trying to solve the puzzle we have from all this pieces of shit everywhere. If you want to be one-sided and just looking at one possibility, then do so, but you will miss quiet some things by that. And read my posts as well. I explained that I think they could put the handicap on one of their own, since that role is pretty useless anyway imo, to save him. Or it's 2 Maf partys. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 16:04:35 427376686762120 wrote:
Goose also loves attacking scummates early on. I didn't notice it in real time but that doesn't mean it's not there. He does it in every game where he's mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:05:43 6D524B4B504E4157240 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 16:09:36 It's going to look horrible for me if he flips town, but I'm staying on SS for the time being. We have a lot of time, and barring a mafia rush (which would make it pretty obvious), I don't really feel safe switching to anyone else. SS has played like he's scared, and maybe that accounts for the young factor, or the newbie factor. Nobody else looks worse to me, except maybe RDBU and I already said that I believe him to be noob town due to his actions looking awfully similar to last game. 55646D6D55606D64010 wrote:
Padz and Sword will give opinoins. Sadly, I doubt that RDBU, & SS will actually bring new things to the table (I'd be willing to lump fank in there but he's being a little better now). Obviously that doesn't mean discounting them but you can't really look for gold in a pile of crap, for the lack of a better term. The people that need focus to get statements are those that we know can give them, and are holding back for whatever undetermined reason. Also, KoopZ needs to get less busy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 16:12:06 0736332D2227570 wrote:
I wouldn't balk at that. I think it's definitely a legitimate possibility. If it is true then I think the Goose, NStride, Silver, ivo, coalition is that faction. They are working really closely together, being shortsighted, only looking at one point of view and being rather pushy. That said they are doing a hell of a job convincing people to agree with them. Even I'm inclining myself to do so. However as I said before if I don't see a legitimate good option presented to vote for I will vote for silver again before EOD. NStride is going to have to do a way better job than making some extremely watery case to vote for koopz. I was also facepalming every time silver made or declared he would make a list. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 16:12:22 4860607C6A3D0F0 wrote:
You have ??? :O:O:O You have bothered to check my near 100 odd posts :O Blimey you are committed to your work. 052D2D312770420 wrote:
This is a very silly post. No one has come close to roleclaiming. There's a good chance that his mafia buddies talked to him before the game started and explained to him the rules of the game and possible outcomes.[/quote] Basic role claiming... This 466E6E726433010 wrote:
Is role claiming. 6C4444584E192B0 wrote:
Is this to suggest there are more than 2 parties in this game going for the win??? (eg a serial killer or something...)[/quote] Meh this post honestly makes it sound like fank is a member of the ADMIN team, or at least he knows that there are 3 parties.[/quote] You really think you have me down pat... Do you know how many times i have ASSUMED in this game??? Also We have clearly established ADMIN=Maf... 3rd party would be a solo role or something. 4B63637F693E0C0 wrote:
You even AGREED with me that their is a 3rd party... 604848544215270 wrote:
??? Me being helpful is a noob move??? Yes im new on the forums to the game... you dont know how i play but i do know how this game is supposed to work...If you dont want to accept my words of wisdom... so be it. (i like it how the new guy is considered a threat... Vote: MattV Last time i played and was town i went against the rng and it was right :P[/quote] literallly no logic here. A standard noob mafia random distraction post. [/quote] it was a random vote... how it was thought? i thought of a method... how many people had posted so far... and counted down... thats how it was obtained... kapeesh? This much attacking must assume you want me dead... I think I know why you want me dead... YOU are scum... And killing a suspected maf... Will boost your status to the town... and they will trust your judgement more. 745C5C405601330 wrote:
Just because you say your town dosent mean you are... and from past experiences... i can conclude that you are doing something exactly similar... (see the above...) Are you smart enough to fool a noob like me? NO! The rest of the town Maybe... This will be my move that i hope to change the game and shuffle it up a bit... If you do turn up town... Im a dead man. The Town will basically be dead unless we see some brilliance or stupidity elsewhere... Well... what say ye? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 16:14:01 unvote Vote Silver I will unvote only if a strong case is presented for another player. Go ahead coalition put an offer on the table. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:15:24 4E494643181811280 wrote:
fank more like outing his entire team |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 16:15:33 @zwiebel ok, so we come up with solid reasoning why we should go for one of the inactives, explaining why scum would not come up with such crazy ideas to almost lynch suprsilver but still save him last minute. It's so much easier for scum to go by easy plans, not handicapping their own people, just solid play. I really don't see why the would make a complex plan like that, risking one of their own. I'm looking at it from this side: there's several inactive people, time in time again, most mafia were among the inactives. Besides that, inactive townies won't help you win the game either. Suprsilver is not really one of the inactives, and chances are big that mafia used their abilities to hinder town, Off course it's possible that they handicapped one of their own, but that's less likely you can say that i'm not really looking at it from two sides, but i am. YOU are the one that wants suprsilver lynched badly, even while there are much more superpoor players around. At least we've got some reasons NOT to lynch suprsilver. I don't see any reasons why we shouldn't lynch RDBU ( or some other players) With that said i'll go ahead and Vote RDBU I'll explain more carefully why exactly rdbu next post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 16:17:25 09383D232C29590 wrote:
[smiley=thumbdown.gif][/quote] a typical padz reaction, i guess you agree that handicapping your teammates and helping them at the same time is a strange thing to do? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 16:17:38 vote: fank009 If fank flips mafia, then we know I'm mafia too and I bussed him! Woo-whee! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 16:17:59 734247595653230 wrote:
Um Padz??? WTH You say me and goose are in league??? YOU AND GOOSE ARE IN LEAGUE(well at least have an "alliance") You Vote for me, Goose Votes for me... You really call that being "in league" The last 20 of gooses post and the last 10 of mine have been against the other Town Leanz Scott Zwiebel RDBU- Posting and voting style seems similar to other games which he is town. MVT The Webinator SS Maf Leanz Goose Padz |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:18:43 ivo i want you to think hard about what youre saying |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:19:27 4E494643181811280 wrote:
bravo fank |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 16:21:08 7850504C5A0D3F0 wrote:
[smiley=roll.gif] I dont know what to think of you anymore Goose... Is this the action of a Elite player??? Well hope for the best... (hey MVT... is my case good enough for you???) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 16:21:47 47404F4A111118210 wrote:
I'm going to call you out here. Were you even online last mafia game? Do you know where it is/how it happened/how RDBU's style was? Or are you just piggybacking off of other posts including mine that have been said? Also find it weird how RDBU is the only one you gave a reason for. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:22:00 also implying that dissoc makes u a genius cements it |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/22/11 at 16:22:05 Ivo, I wasn't telling you to vote Silver off, I just wanted to point out the possibility that my ideas could be right, since you were like "It couldn't be that he's Maf". I don't force you to share thoughts with me, I rather wanted to see if you would accept the possibility. I still think that my scenario is likely, so my vote will stay on Supr for the night, as I'll go to bed soon. And one other thing, I don't think Mafia will go for easy plans, since easy plans are the ones you'll find out the easiest. Maybe Mafia isn't as smart as I'm assuming they are, but I think a smarter plan is much more likely. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 16:22:48 797E71742F2F261F0 wrote:
Last time I was on one of your lists (mid Day 1 was the last one I caught that I was even included on in any way), I was mafia lean. What reasons made you switch? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 16:23:54 Ok, why we should get rid of RDBU: -He's inactive -He ruined games before for town -He's made something like 7 posts in this game. He mentioned like 4 names in those posts. Fank and Suprsilver (both several times) Goose and mattv (like once by accident) So he's not saying anything about anyone else, kinda strange in a game that already has more than 4 mafia members. -He's exactly saying what other people have said already, he seems to be really scared to add new things to the table. -Not only does he not bring new things to the table, he only goes by the most popular opinions, trying to blend in, typical noob mafia Conclusion: mafia, or possibly the worst town player. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/22/11 at 16:23:55 Votals [6] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, Web, (Ivo), RVZ, (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), MVT [3] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), RDBU, Goose [1] RDBU - Ivo [1] KoopZ - (NStride), NStride [1] Goose - fank [1] MattV - Scott [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 27.5 hours or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 16:24:18 ^^I was also going to say about that list, half of the people flipped sides, and there's no reasoning. But you beat me to it. @scott. lol ridiculous posting action |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:24:24 6C5D5846494C3C0 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 16:26:03 594B4C47404F5A415C1F1A2E0 wrote:
I'm going to call you out here. Were you even online last mafia game? Do you know where it is/how it happened/how RDBU's style was? Or are you just piggybacking off of other posts including mine that have been said? Also find it weird how RDBU is the only one you gave a reason for.[/quote] Epic catch. Implications here blow minds. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 16:28:04 Also pulling a Scott here. Members viewing this topic (15): MVT, Camster, Timothy, fank009 (replying), NStride (replying), IsThatAGoodTime, Ivootjes (replying), Honko, Goose, padz, thewebinator, Zwiebel, humpy92, Darius, Suprsilver. Ridiculous activity here. Also see Darius re-reading/lurking. What do you think of the D2 events since you left? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 16:29:37 It'll probably be a while, Darius seems to have just arrived. I'm still waiting on Tim from an hour or more ago! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 16:32:35 2537303B3C33263D206366520 wrote:
I'm going to call you out here. Were you even online last mafia game? Do you know where it is/how it happened/how RDBU's style was? Or are you just piggybacking off of other posts including mine that have been said? Also find it weird how RDBU is the only one you gave a reason for.[/quote] ... I have played with RDBU elsewhere... The game we played there... he was quiet... sheepish and not really contributing to the convo and looked Maf on the outside. Thats why im a bit suprisedish by his actions in this game... He definetly is being sheepish... but his status on the list will change depending on what he says (if anything at all) About the list in general... Do i have to EXPLAIN every action i perform according to my own understanding??? do you doubt yourselves??? Would you like to be taken off or put back on the maf leanz list??? stop complaining will ya. But if you want an explanation just ask who and i will explain as best as i can. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 16:33:26 I haven't posted one of these yet this game. Might as well. Top Town leans: Ivootjes Suprsilver MVT Top Maf Leans: KoopZ Darius RDBU Top What the Fucks/Morons: fank009 TheMoonMan Top Spammers: Brett Just for the sake of being a douche. [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/22/11 at 16:33:49 6A554C4C57494650230 wrote:
I wouldn't vote for RDBU if I could. Only the last two reasons really made sense. My lean is more towards Fank and KoopZ, especially Fank. He doesn't have any reasoning behind his posts, and his lists are... random, to say the least. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 16:35:07 111F01550 wrote:
I wouldn't vote for RDBU if I could. Only the last two reasons really made sense. My lean is more towards Fank and KoopZ, especially Fank. He doesn't have any reasoning behind his posts, and his lists are... random, to say the least.[/quote] Look whos talking. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 16:35:49 032E303C3B3C35590 wrote:
yes, I see suprsilver still as a possibility for mafia, just less likely than some others. And to help you out of the confusion: mafia goes for the easy plan 99% of the time. Why the hell would they risk one of their own when they could also decide not to risk one of their own? That doesn't seem like a smart plan, but like a dumb plan. easy plan = usually the good plan. Stay under the radar. Now i'm asking you zwiebel, what are your reasons why for example, voting out RDBU would be bad? I've given reasons why voting out SS would be good (hard to trust, confusing, does not keep promise, doesn't tell all information) I've given reasons why voting out SS would be bad (strange mafia plan) I've given reasons why voting out RDBU would be good (see above) Now you can give me some reasons why we should keep RDBU in, what exactly makes him less scummy then SS? I also like to see a response from RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/22/11 at 16:42:26 526366787772020 wrote:
[/quote] Ivo is doing great work for town thusfar. Are you trying to derail him? Unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 16:43:51 I'm just going to reassess why people are saying Suprsilver is mafia, because it is a bit confusing. > Major edit/delete and contradictory claim > Giving up > Non-contributive Counter claims: > Scott I think already caught him making extremely late edits (up to 4 minutes late) before that last major slip. Also people (aka town) do change their minds. Sometimes on the spot. > The case was hopeless from his perspective, and he probably saw a lackadaisical attitude as the best defense. (Mafia would react strongly and fight). He might not have known better considering his experience. > Being non-contributive does not make someone maf, and it's actually considerably excusable for new players. In fact, a new mafia player would indeed get line feeds from his scummates. This seems hardly the case for Silver. Think about it, and come to your conclusions. Also, correct me if I messed up on some information/overlooked potential factors as to why Super is maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 16:44:26 625356484742320 wrote:
well, i actually got it, but i think you missed so i cleared it up a little bit? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 16:45:40 First of all we need to make sure that absolutely everyone else confirms they can vote and that they haven't got any other kind of handicap. If that's proven to be the case, then I'll consider that Supr might not be mafia. I think it's unlikely that his own team would have handicapped him as Sportsguy's flip is what lends credence to his claim and he couldn't have known that would happen, so without it Suprsilvr would have just dug himself further into a hole by claiming handicap. There's still the possibility of a third faction, and with two kills, neither of them on particularly pro-town players, I see that as being pretty plausible. Ivo: I obviously have a different way of approaching the game than other players. A lot of players here are very careful and worried about doing things that are going to draw attention because they're scared of getting lynched - in fact, you said it yourself when you said you weren't going to defend Fank. I call it as I see it and if that gets me heat, so be it. Where I play mafia, doing what Supr did would be considered a major scumtell. I don't think it's scummy for players to change their mind over the course of the game; in fact, it often displays a townie thought process that they're evolving their reads and responding to events. My point is that Silvr apparently completely changed his mind in the space of a few seconds and claimed he didn't think lists were a good idea on D1. I think this is an example of cognitive dissonance - he's simultaneously trying to appear town by making a list in response to Sword's query, but he's also trying not to give himself away as mafia with what was on that list. Another scumtell that's often very good is that scum find it harder to write posts; this is why they often sound forced, or read as very carefully worded (this is why I've also got my eye on TvL). I get the impression that Supr found it hard to make a list and clearly didn't actually believe the list he came up with anyway. Then he later proved his statement about not making lists on D1 to be a lie by making another list. I just don't see how any of this is even remotely genuine, and disingenuity = scum. Next up, most of your post pointing out how scum-tastic I've been is conditional on the idea that Supr is town and I'm pushing an easy mislynch. Supr did something that I think is mega-scummy. I'm pressuring him for it. Finally, I'd like to know two more things: 1. Do you think Goose is mafia? 2. Do you think RDBU is a bad player? The above point about cases being conditional on Supr's flip goes for the likes of MVT too. You can't make up a 'coalition' when you don't know what Supr's alignment is. I think this kind of speculation is ridiculous and clogs up the thread with unsubstantiated connections. We should focus on who's actually scummy and draw connections to scumflips when we have them, not start chaining suspects up way in advance. I need to look back and see if there's anything revealing in relation to Sportsguy but I think he posted so little that there's not going to be much of substance. I agree that Koopz's posts always seem to be trying to make everything look suspicious. I always get the impression he's tentatively trying to push suspicion on as many players as possible; he did this with Goose back on D1 with no actual tangible reason. He's also guilty of chaining suspicion on Supr's flip and I think both he and MVT are worth a look for scum if Supr flips mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 16:46:53 292E21247F7F764F0 wrote:
I'm going to call you out here. Were you even online last mafia game? Do you know where it is/how it happened/how RDBU's style was? Or are you just piggybacking off of other posts including mine that have been said? Also find it weird how RDBU is the only one you gave a reason for.[/quote] ... I have played with RDBU elsewhere... The game we played there... he was quiet... sheepish and not really contributing to the convo and looked Maf on the outside. Thats why im a bit suprisedish by his actions in this game... He definetly is being sheepish... but his status on the list will change depending on what he says (if anything at all) About the list in general... Do i have to EXPLAIN every action i perform according to my own understanding??? do you doubt yourselves??? Would you like to be taken off or put back on the maf leanz list??? stop complaining will ya. But if you want an explanation just ask who and i will explain as best as i can.[/quote] You already defend EVERY single time you are accused of anything no matter how small and make large posts. Web you better be scared. You wouldn't want to be placed on one of fank's maf lean lists. If you make it on that list you are definitely 100% mafia and you are as good as dead. Every player will then listen to fank and vote you off. :D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 16:49:17 08393030083D30395C0 wrote:
I'm going to call you out here. Were you even online last mafia game? Do you know where it is/how it happened/how RDBU's style was? Or are you just piggybacking off of other posts including mine that have been said? Also find it weird how RDBU is the only one you gave a reason for.[/quote] ... I have played with RDBU elsewhere... The game we played there... he was quiet... sheepish and not really contributing to the convo and looked Maf on the outside. Thats why im a bit suprisedish by his actions in this game... He definetly is being sheepish... but his status on the list will change depending on what he says (if anything at all) About the list in general... Do i have to EXPLAIN every action i perform according to my own understanding??? do you doubt yourselves??? Would you like to be taken off or put back on the maf leanz list??? stop complaining will ya. But if you want an explanation just ask who and i will explain as best as i can.[/quote] You already defend EVERY single time you are accused of anything no matter how small and make large posts. Web you better be scared. You wouldn't want to be placed on one of fank's maf lean lists. If you make it on that list you are definitely 100% mafia and you are as good as dead. Every player will then listen to fank and vote you off. :D[/quote] LOL Correction he has been on the list before... Not all my feelings are 100%... And has anybody latched on to the bandwagon??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 16:50:12 read this post again ivo 28170E0E150B0412610 wrote:
uuhm, scum handicapping there own players? after that feeding him lines to keep him alive? what's next? claiming that scum also shot their own handicapper as part of the big overal plan?[/quote] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/22/11 at 16:50:51 Yeah sorry Scott my flatmate texted me while he was playing poker so I watched him for a bit, he won $57 :) Anyway, I'm confused as fuck as I'm sure many others are here. This is more a collection of things I've written as I've been reading through. RVZ pointing out TVL’s post is defensive without having been questioned. (Although he was mentioned, by me and Darius, so perhaps RVZ is throwing off the trail here. Maybe he has genuinely been busy and had missed this?) “It's in my nature to not judge people to quickly, to play devil's advocate, etcetera. It's also in my nature to think carefully about my posts. I realize that neither characteristic is very commendable for a citizen, but that's just the real me shining through.” - TVL - Perhaps too carefully? Despite being a clearly intelligent person, his posts have been a bit fumbled so far. Just careful or overly protective? Darius – it’s only day 2 and I think day 3 will bring a heck of a lot more things out in the clear, but he’s playing an especially good game at the moment. Helpful townie or even more dangerous mafia? He reminds me of Clay... Page 19 is important because of Scott’s points about Sportsguy and Matt V. Yes a Supr lynch is a definite odds lynch in statistical/information terms. I don’t like RVZ’s “in my first game I was mafia…” implying Fank as possible noob town. I’m not a fan of past-game-analysis in this instance because he may know something we don’t, in which case using this previous game example to defense/advantage. NStride’s Koopz vote is just weird. Supr has fuck loads of reason to have votes attached to him. Koopz being inactive on day 1 doesn’t mean he can’t have drawn conclusions. One problem I’ve been thinking about is that because Supr and Fank are in so deep, even the mafia can throw their votes onto them if necessary without giving themselves away, which is annoying as anything and shows how little DEFINITIVE info we have. MVT is right in that the game would be better played without them. Right now they are doing the town more harm than good, regardless of their roles. MVT has pointed out NStride’s strange behaviour. Top of page 22 he acts like Goose has made a ridiculous play whereas he didn’t. It doesn't look to me like a ‘let’s save Supr’ post but an ‘I am adamant that the game will be better played and we’ll have a better chance without Fank’ post. He doesn’t even mention Supr. Possible desperation/distraction attempt there. Nstride also votes for Supr shortly after MVT has pointed out he seems like he was defending him. Fank’s personality transplant to a Goose lynch is bullshit. This doesn't mean to say I'm convinced about Goose. He talks too loud. MVT’s posts are still useful regardless of his role. I like what he’s posting even though don’t know if he’s legit or not. Leaning towards town of course because of this but MVT is a player capable of anything. Ok ok this was just what I was summarising as I was going on, I know there has been some definite rehashing in the last few pages. I'm wondering if the early votes on Supr this day were anxious rushed townie votes or mafia bandwagon votes. RDBU is a dumbarse and I hate that he's in this game almost as much as Supr and Fank. I wonder if anything is to be said for the order of votes on J-Cop as well. [12] J-Cop - Sword, MVT, Tim, SuprSilver, RVZ, TvL, Goose, Ivo, Darius, Cam, fank, MattV The "mid range" I don't like because it's across between bandwagon and safety. It implies a confident choice but also can act as a coverup as you aren't delivering the final blows. MattV is probably confident enough to pull off a "closing vote" if he is mafia. I'll be here for a bit longer. I suggest that people chill the fuck out a bit on the voting, we've got a full day left, so let's use it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 16:52:01 3C33392437312833393838335D0 wrote:
Nope, that's fank. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 16:52:04 6C5D54546C59545D380 wrote:
Well then the next list I'll be town, so it's all good. More seriously, RDBU just doesn't seem like maf to me. I want to hear him talk though. If he stays silent and blatantly ignores people that are asking him what's his stance, I can see him as dodging and scum. Last game he was silent, but when asked questions always ended up answering them as I remember. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/22/11 at 16:55:27 Remember RDBU is an Aussie, idk how old he is but he might be in lessons/lectures. :/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 16:57:54 Nice post Tim. Would you vote Goose if there were 5 votes on him already? How about fank? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 16:58:26 I think he's in his early 20s iirc, but I have no idea what time it is in Australia. I was speaking generally though, like within the next 5-10 hours or so. Staying silent looks really bad. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 16:59:37 4557505B5C53465D400306320 wrote:
should be around 11am-12pm |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 16:59:37 Thanks for your post darius, that clears a lot up. That post looks better than all of your posts before. 1. Do you think Goose is mafia? possibly, at least he's overreacting on a lot of stuff. "looking for mafia tells" It's part of his style though, but at some point the trolling got so extreme that i started to think he's mafia. And he's focusing on 1 or 2 players, which is also easy to do as mafia. 2. Do you think RDBU is a bad player? i think he's a terrible player. A combination of random votes, inactivity, poor reasoning I agree that TvL's posts look forced. I know he's a pretty smart guy, so i expected a lot from him, but for now, he's not living up to my expectations, that's why i think there's a good chance he's mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 17:03:34 6A5B5E404F4A3A0 wrote:
uuhm, scum handicapping there own players? after that feeding him lines to keep him alive? what's next? claiming that scum also shot their own handicapper as part of the big overal plan?[/quote][/quote] oh shit, i offended padz because i don't take his ideas seriously! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 17:03:43 193C2F34282E5D0 wrote:
I don't buy into that really. I'm trying to draw lines of connection between players that are defending other players. I see nothing at all wrong with that. I laid out scenarios for both if Supr flipped maf and if Supr flipped town. I actually have thought of going through the effort of going through the whole game and making a large post pointing out who has defended who at what point of the game. But I'll just prefer to keep them in my memory bank for now. Call it laziness if you want but I've already laid out my biggest suspicions on player connections. This style has worked in the past and I see no reason to change it. Knowledge is power. I'm certainly not "clogging up" the thread, at least not in comparison to someone like fank and his gibberish. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/22/11 at 17:04:28 1C26013D342114123A3A31013D3C3B32550 wrote:
It depends on the time of day and what the other vote counts were. I'd be happy to finish either of them off if I felt they were the better option at the given time. Right now I think that would be Fank because I can't stand the shitstorm and it's clearly causing massive problems. Did Goose just disappear or what? :S |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 17:22:50 464C4F4C524C350 wrote:
It depends on the time of day and what the other vote counts were. I'd be happy to finish either of them off if I felt they were the better option at the given time. Right now I think that would be Fank because I can't stand the shitstorm and it's clearly causing massive problems. Did Goose just disappear or what? :S[/quote] Good point... Where are you goosey? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 17:24:36 in that case, explain how it makes sense that suprsilver could be scum and not be lying about being handicapped |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 17:27:33 Posts of interest relating to Sportsguy (some snipped for brevity): First up is Web excusing Sportsguy's lurking, then MVT calling him out on it: 72434A4A72474A43260 wrote:
iirc, these guys are the only ones that haven't posted. imo it's not even worth considering them as lynches until the end of the day. Also, it's not worth considering Sportsguy ever due to inactivity since all he does is lurk. [/quote] What a cop out! :o Web I thought you were smarter than that. Just letting them slide is stupid.[/quote] I found this slightly scummy just because Web is making excuses for Sportsguy early on and it could potentially be a sign of worry that he was going to get in trouble for it later. Sportsguy then laughs off Web's comment, claiming he didn't know the game had started, which suggests to me perhaps he was a little pressured by Web's comment and gives Web some mild towncred: 64475845434450424E070706370 wrote:
I then vote Web and call him out for his free pass on Sportsguy in the process, bringing this response: 3123242F28273229347772460 wrote:
Again, nothing particularly incisive to be drawn; Web has written Sportsguy off on past experience, so this could really be a mafia or town thing. Then we get a string of people talking about Sportsguy's lack of action, first Scott: 6B51764A435663654D4D46764A4B4C45220 wrote:
Then TvL: 45797E7C70624E675D110 wrote:
Both of these are kind of nothing comments; Scott's is a straight-up prod into action, which could come from town or mafia. The only thing that really seems off about this to me is that Sportsguy obviously isn't the only offender of very low posting with no content at this stage, so Scott singling him out makes me wonder why. TvL's is more scummy to me because he goes ahead with getting this voting information but he doesn't really try and exert pressure on either Sportsguy or Ivo for not having voted, despite obviously realising the implications of this for town's info. 'Annoying' seems more like a scumbuddy's nudge to Sportsguy that he should get on and make a contribution than it does a suspicious townie. Then Camster: 7B6A5F485C5F594E79534859565F3A0 wrote:
This may have some relevance to the NK and may explain why Camster was killed, if Sportsguy thought that Cam was on to him. Definit Finally we have Sportsguy's last post: 56756A77717662707C353534050 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 17:32:24 6346554E5254270 wrote:
Because in every game I'm with Sportsguy I try to have a good relationship with him but if he's not poting I can't. I like to make sure the people that know what they are doing are playing before the ones that have no clue. Really trying to avoid the whole "START POSTING STUPID INACTIVES" thing because sometimes I have gotten too strong on that one subject and let it dominate my play, rather than actually saying important things. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 17:34:17 So Sportsguy distances himself from both the J-Cop and Fank lynches by saying they're probably town. I think this means Fank is pretty likely to not be Sportsguy's buddy - Sportsguy is sticking his neck out a bit here to defend Fank when if they were scum together he could just bus him for some towncred due to Fank's awful play. Then he makes this off-hand comment about Koopz being mafia but not voting him, which is obviously aimed at being a jokey remark but given the flip, could be a little attempt at distancing. Notice how Sportsguy tries to pass it off as a casual remark that only Scott and 'i think Cam' have noticed he wasn't posting. I think Sportsguy most definitely noticed that Cam was putting the pressure on him because of his lurking, and that's the best explanation we have for his death. In short, Scott & Koopz are slightly scummier due to their connections to Sportsguy and TvL wins some scumpoints for that 'annoyed' post. I don't think Fank is Sportsguy's buddy and I on balance I think Web is fairly null on the whole situation. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 17:35:35 1B21063A332613153D3D36063A3B3C35520 wrote:
Because in every game I'm with Sportsguy I try to have a good relationship with him but if he's not poting I can't. I like to make sure the people that know what they are doing are playing before the ones that have no clue. Really trying to avoid the whole "START POSTING STUPID INACTIVES" thing because sometimes I have gotten too strong on that one subject and let it dominate my play, rather than actually saying important things.[/quote] What's your opinion of Ivo as a player? I think he had posted similarly small amounts at the time, or possibly even nothing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/22/11 at 17:36:42 Where the fuck is Sword? Also I like your posts Darius. Will take note of this page. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/22/11 at 17:37:02 5E7B68736F691A0 wrote:
Well, me not defending fank is not because i'm scared to get lynched, It's because i'm not too sure about Fank and if defending him can get me lynched than it definitely reduces chances of town winning. Not worth it when you're not sure about someone and going by "gut feeling". (i've made that mistake before defending RVZ who was mafia in that game) Anyway, i need to go to bed, i'll be back tomorrow to at least follow some of the later hours in the day. I'll be around for plenty of time, but not in the next 8 hours. And because the mafia.cgi page doesn't seem to register my vote Unvote Vote RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 17:38:41 4B6E7D667A7C0F0 wrote:
Ivo's above average as well but I don't have the same in-game relationship I have with Sportsguy. I can toss things out in past games for Sportsguy to pick up on and he'll usually catch them and comment back. You are right that he hadn't posted at the time but I wasn't expecting/looking for his posts. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 17:45:29 As a follow up to the above...you didn't include the full quote from that post where I addressed Sportsguy. I also had comments/questions for Goose and MVT. Those are three of the most talented/dangerous players in my book, so I was trying to hit them all up early. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 17:49:46 734C55554E505F493A0 wrote:
Your first response reassures me on that front a little. Essentially, your accusation was that I was only focusing on Supr but I wanted to see where you stood on Goose to see if you also found him scummy for going after Fank. As for the second, you said I was likely mafia for focusing on an easy lynch in Suprsilvr, yet here you are going after someone you perceive to be a terrible player. Isn't RDBU someone who would be a fairly easy lynch because he's not a very good player? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 17:51:54 5C716F6364636A060 wrote:
handicapping town would be a terrible move since it would clear them. but what about pretending to handicap a struggling scummate? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 17:55:09 Scott: I can see where you're coming from with Sportsguy/Ivo. I thought it was a potential link of interest and I'm just bearing it in mind; I've seen mafia in early-game before do that kind of thing so it's stuck in my head. I saw one a few months ago where a player picked out two players who had both made two posts of absolutely no substance, so their contributions were equivalent, but his comment was along the lines of 'X and Y need to post more, especially X'. X turned out to be his buddy. And yes, I did leave Goose and MVT out; I was just trying to get the post inside the character limit so I was really only leaving the things that were directly related to Sportsguy. Have you explicitly targeted those three in early game stages before? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/22/11 at 17:57:21 And now I'm going to bed because it's nearly 2AM. If everyone who hasn't could vote/confirm they haven't been handicapped then that would be excellent. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/22/11 at 18:20:03 What padz said does makes sense actually. SuprSilver claimed out of nowhere he is handicapped. His mafbuds might have told him to say this and Sword is actual the one that is handicapped. Since he didnt post a single thing all day. Any thoughts on this? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/22/11 at 18:23:42 I'm off for the night. RVZ the thing that puts a flaw in your theory is Sword hasn't been online since 2PM my time yesterday, (it's 10:30PM now meaning about 32 hours if my maths are right. So it's not that he can't post, he hasn't been on and even had the opportunity to. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 19:44:10 Something i just noticed and am giving a bump. 7A40675B524772745C5C57675B5A5D54330 wrote:
??? Admin = Bad for town... Q is who to trust? Speak up BOTH of you... Town Leanz Zwiebel MVT The Webinator Darius Maf Leanz Goose Padz RDBU- Brought up by scott... Didnt really say anything on the topic... Back on my suspicions SS- Reviewed comments concerning his "Handicap" I do need to update the list often... Its been very talkative today... And i havent made a majority of the posts :O Definetly a better day for town so far... unless maf is learning from me :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 19:47:52 Vote: Goose unvote Not handicapped. Also, I'd like to point out our forum has 4 Admins. Jonesy shadow AlexPenev Micheal To me this only leaves two likely options. Either Sportsguy was independant, or all the admins have their own role, and I personally think 4 people is too many for a third party. I believe the Mafia power roles are the ADMINS. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 19:51:50 I also think Supr may be legitimately handicapped, since nobody else has made any such claims, and an inability to vote wouldn't really make any difference to how suspicious everyone is of him. I'm also getting a maf lean on Scott. Trying to say he has no posting style restriction, but posting alot of random fluff amidst his actual comments, which are overly aggressive and suspicious imo. I find it unlikely that a troll would be a townie role. And he just keeps hounding my ass about not posting anything useful, when I've posted my opinions several times. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 19:54:11 46414E4B101019200 wrote:
??? Admin = Bad for town... Q is who to trust? Speak up BOTH of you...[/quote] 407A5D61687D484E66666D5D6160676E090 wrote:
Scott, please explain this?[/quote] Clearly trying to see what he'd say. He hasn't posted since, sadly.[/quote] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 19:55:02 0E362B2A2D06093538203C2B061C2F3C2B590 wrote:
Huh? Have you even read the whole topic? Don't lie. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 19:56:13 122A3736311A1529243C20371A00332037450 wrote:
Sounds right. But KB is a global... HONKO >:( [smiley=chairshot.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 19:56:20 I'll admit I skipped over the majority of fank's posts. His posting style makes me want to throw up a little bit. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 19:57:19 Fank, who's to say KB is a legit role unless he's on your team? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 19:58:09 Scott was it a "test"... I can Add one and one and from what i see... Are you??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 19:59:22 I took Scott's post as a joke, it was forever ago, why are you harping on about it? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:00:00 49716C6D6A414E727F677B6C415B687B6C1E0 wrote:
True... Im not saying it is a legit role... im investigating on what grounds the accusation is made. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:01:06 0B332E2F28030C303D25392E03192A392E5C0 wrote:
Do you realize the reason I have posted things you seem to call "troll" is because sometimes it's easier to get your meaning across with a picture or song when you're just SO FRUSTRATED at people in this game for not caring or being idiots? The main difference between me here in this game and in the past is I'm willing to call people on BULLSHIT and not let stupid ideas float around. I'm sick and tired of dealing with people in these games who sign up then put forth minimal effort. It's sometimes like having 8 Jimbos in the game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:01:11 There was no accusation, Scott was trolling. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:02:02 073F2223240F003C312935220F15263522500 wrote:
Because Goose made a post in the mafia thread telling Fank to ask more, since I didn't answer Goose very specifically. That's how I read it, at least. It's my policy to comment no more on it though. Read what you like out of the situation. At least it looks like Matt V reads better than some people here [smiley=beer.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:02:31 5A627F7E79525D616C74687F52487B687F0D0 wrote:
Because... It can reveal Information... When you accuse you typically get info from the accuser and the accusee (e.g. we'll find out with goose) But there is A LOT of information in that post. If Scotts telling the truth ... vote RDBU... If not Vote Scott. that is a very big roleclaim from that post... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:02:50 Then why the random spam on page 1 Scotty? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:04:25 Cause he was bored and everyone was lurking for a post??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:05:00 Already explained that one as well. Previous game Page 1 I had fun by acting serious and commanding. This time was "troll party" so I filled up the page. Basically my idea is that once we get past the first page things can start to settle down. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:05:53 Fair enough. Hopefully you can see why I lean(ed) towards you having a troll role though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:07:19 Ok... But You HAVE to indicate with me somehow that you ARE trolling... I take things quite literally and if you dont include smileys i think its serious. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:08:30 Well, I don't have a troll role. I do like to see how people react to certain things. It's hard to see reactions when the person you're looking for DOES NOT POST. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:09:49 08321529203500062E2E251529282F26410 wrote:
Thats a reaction in itself though isnt it? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:09:58 Fank as someone who is suspected maf/town retard on everyone's radar, I doubt Scott will post a bunch of smileys to help you read. Anyways, to bring up the ol' inactive list. 11. padz 12. RDBU 13. RVZ 17. Sword 18. Tim 19. TvL 21. Zarkov From like page 23, lemme know if anyone shouldn't be on that list. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:13:34 what im saying is... im the type of person who can screw the town over posts like that... If i hadnt talked to scott (and people believed me) i would have pushed for a RDBU vote and Mafia night kill would be scott which may be Really bad for town... This is how i think...k. sometimes i do put some thought into it but sometimes i jump the gun, A lot. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:14:57 Hey Fank, what do you think about Goose in the game? Could he maybe be mafia? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:14:59 And what makes you personally so suspicious of RBDU? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:19:40 4A726F6E69424D717C64786F42586B786F1D0 wrote:
My opinion??? Bout RBDU: Very irrational... a lot of hearsay voting... Dosent read posts... (example the conversation between me and u Matt. Now Bout Goose. I have posted my argument... at the begginning i thought he was town but he is being too aggressive too be town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:20:58 63646B6E35353C050 wrote:
More aggressive is usually a town trait, since wolves tend to hide back (at least in these games). Goose has been suspicious of you since very early. At the top part of Page 2 he made a post listing you and Cam as mafia suspects. Why? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:25:13 05020D0853535A630 wrote:
I'd like to hear more, btw. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:34:17 5A60477B726752547C7C77477B7A7D74130 wrote:
More aggressive is usually a town trait, since wolves tend to hide back (at least in these games). Goose has been suspicious of you since very early. At the top part of Page 2 he made a post listing you and Cam as mafia suspects. Why?[/quote] Me being noob and STUPIDLY got into a conversation with him... (read on it gets worse:P) I decided the only way to get out of the hole is to make the hole bigger. (wider in a sense) Hence the playstyle... I was looking for a jester type role but i really didnt need to say anything. Everyone thought of their own thoughts I played that way the rest of Day 1 and Day 2 is a new day in my opinion... But it all started over a noob move. I dont Passively defend for my life now cause i have achieved what i have accomplished... but i do want to continue farther though. I know that ill have a target on my back from the moment i gave my "list" to goose, all the way to the end... The reason why he is in my suspicions cause he is acting like MVT in a sense... He was aggressive with his convictions on me but it is INSANE now. The thing that makes this game difficult specifically is that everyone has different opinions in who is most Maf. It looks Very hard to get a majority... Me Im playing every phase like my last. Im Trying to the best of my ability to help the town... If this game isnt for people like me... so be it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 20:35:14 063C1B272E3B0E0820202B1B272621284F0 wrote:
I'd like to hear more, btw.[/quote] After this game... Ill post the link (when we are both dead :P) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:38:14 Padz- made a few posts, nothing jawdropping, but he seems to be playing how he always does, neutral RDBU - barely posts, and focuses solely on the final; lynch votes, even though everyone who is town was convinced he;s maf, seems like he's trying to get the target off him, maf lean RVZ-list shouldnt really have him on here now, he;s been posting and is online, trying to move the game forward, town lean Sword-no posts, hasn't been online, neutral Tim- his posting style makes me think he has a power role, not sure if town though TvL - slight jab at scott, nothing else memorable, no idea what to think Zarkov- All short posts, nothing too useful, and he's been online this afternoon, and hasn't posted. Might just be lurking through the rest of the day, he gets a maf lean from me |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:39:50 I'm still trying to figure fank out. Goose why did you suspect Cam as maf? And stop lurking I know you live on your fuckin laptop with your porn stash bro. Lots of love. :-* |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/22/11 at 20:39:54 Votals [5] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, Web, (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), MVT [3] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), RDBU, Goose [1] Goose - fank, (MattV) [1] RDBU - Ivo [1] KoopZ - (NStride), NStride [1] MattV - Scott [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 23.5 hours or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/22/11 at 20:41:40 I 1425203E3134440 wrote:
> Handicapping town would be a terrible move since it would clear them. Only if the mafia knew that the handicap placer on their team was going to die night 1. We would not have even known about the handicapper otherwise. We would have written off Suprsilver's claim as ridiculous. And, from what Silver said, he implies that it was a new PM from Honko. They would not actually handicap a mafia member, because like you say in your next line, they can pretend to have handicapped members easily. This makes it critical for everyone to post and vote before the end of the day. The sooner the better. Handicapping town N1 would have been the logical move, because mafia could assume that the ADMIN handicapper would not die. And who would they put it on? A player like Suprsilver. The timing is also off, Suprsilver's claim to a handicap and Goose's defense that is. Also, wouldn't Goose have been the one to point out that the handicap role again, not me, if it were a carefully devised plan? I suppose you could say that this is all an incredible, intricate plan by the mafia. But right now I still think it is more reasonable to assume that Suprsilver is telling the truth and that he is not maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:42:43 Thanks for that detailed response, Fank. Not sure why everyone has such a hard time reading you. Now I also happen to have two other people I was wondering what you felt about them??? Maybe you could fill me in. The people are Zarkov and Webinator. What suspicions do you have on those two, if any? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:47:10 I find the topic title offensive, I probably didn't even make any spelling mistakes while I posted intoxicated. >:( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 20:49:11 I'm lurking because I'm waiting for the thread to die down between 3-6am so I can actually read the fustercluck that's been going on all day and post coherent thoughts. Yes I suspected Cam as mafia because he was doing fuck all and I thought the tone of his posts were mafiaey. It's possible they killed him because he was under the radar and killing him wouldn't reveal too much. Kind of like why we killed you N1 in the elite/kart game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:53:11 I don't wanna wait up that late for your thoughts though. :( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:53:12 Huh? What/who has to do with N1 of Elite/Kart game? IIRC: drag lynched after a false start on jimbo was turned around, then MVT was wolfkilled and MattV was SK'd |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 20:54:44 Goose you had no hand to play in my N1 death last game. :/ I'm also sick of these lurking fucks. Vote: Zarkov |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 20:55:41 I forget what happened. You and MVT died, both for being under the radar. The wolves may have killed MVT, I forget. We were considering killing you at least. Anyways, that's probably what the mafia this game did. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 20:57:07 Yes, and do you not deny that this is your favorite way to play when you are mafia? Stating every fact possible as plainly as possible and telling the truth which only your fellow mafia members read, leaving the rest of the town oblivious as you troll your way through the game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 20:59:31 I'm not mafia this game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 21:00:52 Yeah, and I'm not right handed. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 21:01:15 People play different from game to game, let's not waste time analyzing this. Still want to hear from Zarkov. That twatford better get up soon. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 21:09:16 417B5C60697C494F67676C5C6061666F080 wrote:
Zarkov Hasnt maid much posts to contribute to the discussion. I have no lean on him... Weber is a different story though... A lot of my thoughts are hot air towards him. At the moment i have him on a town Lean... He is still being watched though as he is up and down about me... He was maf lean earlier because of the fact that he was encouraging me to talk... And the more Fank talks the more the town is screwed. Recently he has been offering some great insight on other players (and myself :P) thats why i have him on a town lean... Please note this is entirely my opinion... I can not see past my own role and actions sometimes. So there is a bit of biased. But i try to think what is best for the town... (but sometimes pride takes over and i sometimes asl myself what is best for fank. and that can lead to all sorts of things :P) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 21:15:23 0D2525392F784A0 wrote:
You say that... I can say that too but will you listen? No. cause you have blocked your ears going, "la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la". It really is a matter of who you can trust... After all that you have done to me this game... I would need a lot of convincing to go on your word. So before we prepare for our eventual David and Goliath battle... Can i say... Do you like my siggie? I feel connected to it in someway :P Those who do a lot of this [smiley=lurk.gif] or this [smiley=ninja.gif] this is what you get from me. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/22/11 at 21:17:45 Ok, I was reading through the 10 or so pages that popped up last night, but since you're being a bunch of suffocating pricks... I may keep my vote on SS, solely because of that list (has he put it back up like he was asked?). About the previous game me and fank played in together, I just lost interest. Nothing that's even close to the level this game is. Now, if you allow me to read through the last few pages... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 21:18:33 [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif]. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 21:21:12 Okay guys I have a neat idea that we'll try, as long as a few of you are on board. We're going to reserve the first 20 posts (whole page maybe?) of the next page (page 32) to be made ONLY by the following: padz Timothy Koopz RVZ Zarkov S[ch969][ch959]rd TvL Resident Dry Bones User These 8 posters are the bottom 8 for the overall game totals on mafia.cgi. Making that set of 20 posts be required to be among those 8 will force them each to actually post their THOUGHTS and the spotlight is on them so they know what they say will be noticed. The basis for this idea is that a single vote or calling out for those people won't help a thing, they usually just show up, say something silly, and leave again. If they know their voice will be heard, maybe they will use their noggins. The only exception to this would be for the case where they can't fill up that page before 2hrs pre-deadline in which case the regular posters could come back into posting and vote and all that. Thoughts? We've got less than 10 posts here before that page starts so decide fast. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 21:23:28 Sounds like a good plan. Some may post before next page, I saw Koopz and RDBU online. Also, link me the mafia cgi? I can never remember what it is. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 21:24:01 too much to read thru and try and quote/post everything i want to talk about. i have not seen this possible scenario yet though mentioned from anyone (at least i dont think so). cam was random/vig killed, sportsguy was mafia killed, and silver was just a random pick for the handicap power in the night. its not like its an incredibly useful power anyway, especially since you can still talk and say who you would vote for. NStride, i believe you're the one that first brought up any suspicion of me. i want to know exactly what i did that made you suspect me. i would at least like a chance to defend myself. to web, scott and others that said i need to be less busy: i'm sorry that my life is not currently revolving around this game. idk what else you want me to do, but ask me questions and i shall answer them as best i can. i still feel silver is mafia, handicapped or not. its obvious that no one else feels this way, so i'm not going to press the issue anymore cuz i'd be wasting my breath. time to do a lot more reading again.... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 21:27:05 was making my previous post when scott's idea was posted. i'm fine with that idea, but i need something to start with outside of silver since you all know where i stand on that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/22/11 at 21:27:30 Ill give them 16 hrs from now... should be plenty of time due to timezones... Unless you are Mr Busy. Before we start though there is one thing i want to mention... Goose. I want to know... If I flip up town... Who is your next target to lynch... I would also like to know if i flip Maf... who would be your next target to lynch... Just want to hear your thoughts |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/22/11 at 21:29:18 If you seriously can't find anything else to talk about than silver, you'll need to step up your game...a lot. MattV: http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi Only a couple more posts till Page 32. So far we've got Matt V, Koopz, fank, and me all IN. Maybe if one more person says it's good before Page 32 starts, we'll do it. So then if you're not on that list of 8, just hold your thoughts in a text file and post them after Page 32 is done. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/22/11 at 21:30:20 For anyone who doesn't know it, a link to mafia.cgi is at the top of the first post. Check it out. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/22/11 at 21:32:00 Unvote Still have a while left. Maybe it's possible that this SS/fank fiasco is a distraction from something else? This handicapped claim of SS is nothing new either. Remember the silence claim in Pokemafia 2.0? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 21:38:19 I managed to read RDBU's last post by going through his profile, but when I click the topic it doesnt show up.. Fast edit, nvm its there, page 32 time, inactyives better post now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 21:38:33 Unvote Vote Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/22/11 at 21:49:55 Right now I'm suspecting these people: SuprSilva fank009 (albeit not so much now, but I can't let my guard down). Also, seems to be an odd question to ask Goose fanky boy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 21:57:21 these quotes are up thru page 23 or so of my reading. the following are quotes from day 2 that i find to be important in some way, and i'll explain each to the best of my ability. i'm scrolling through day 2's posts and just copying stuff as i see it to comment on it. 5564617F7075050 wrote:
comedy shock is maf[/quote] something important to me that implicates shock. you cant just ignore people cuz they post a lot, and padz called him out on it. 7567606B6C63766D703336020 wrote:
scott mentioned me saying that him posting in bunches was a retarded theory. i was not the first person to come up with that theory, it was web right here. i only commented on it cuz i hadnt noticed any kind of pattern before until reading this post. 323E3E2122253423510 wrote:
the number of things that have been posted about silver already would give us all kinds of leads as to where people stand. even if you do have a vote on him, you cant deny that you're defending him? whats the deal?[/quote] calling out Shock for defending Silver and asking what he was doing. i dont believe i ever got an answer. 060816420 wrote:
silver asking for it. he then points out me fank web and goose for seemingly no apparent reason, and iirc never bothers to explain those picks. 7C726C380 wrote:
i missed this question. i do think that fank is noob town, and my saying that shouldnt ignore him was exactly as it said. you cant ignore anything in this game, no matter how stupid it may seem. fank could give himself away as something more, he could point out something that we all miss to out somebody else. 6B6767787B7C6D7A080 wrote:
What about me??? Its little quotes like these that gain/lose brownie points in my eyes.[/quote] i think you're innocent, but i can see why people would vote for you. you're definitely trying to redeem yourself, but first impressions mean everything, and your first impression was horrible.[/quote] in connection with the previous quote, i tell fank to his face that i think he's innocent, but he's still not playing so hot. i am still not suspicious of him. 313D3D2221263720520 wrote:
this is a very important point, especially if fank flips town and suprsilver flips mafia. you're trying to save your mafia pal.[/quote] goose comes out of no where to inadvertently defend silver, who was at the time the obv lynch and tries to get everyone to vote fank instead. let it be said at this point that we STILL wouldnt learn as much from a fank lynch as we would from a silver lynch, especially all thats been said. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/22/11 at 21:59:54 good lord, i dont even know what to say anymore. i think some of you have lost your minds. i've been calling silver as mafia since the whole edit thing, and now apparently its yesterday's news. you'll be sorry when he lives to the end and mafia wins. in other news, ivo's posts dont ring true to me anymore, and zarkov hasnt really posted anything. matt v continues to not post anything worth reading, and we're still missing sword. what the hell is going on here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/22/11 at 22:09:47 Sorry not quoting a bunch of posts makes mine worthless. ::) Night all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/22/11 at 22:11:21 58575D4053554C575D5C5C57390 wrote:
> Handicapping town would be a terrible move since it would clear them. Only if the mafia knew that the handicap placer on their team was going to die night 1. We would not have even known about the handicapper otherwise. We would have written off Suprsilver's claim as ridiculous. And, from what Silver said, he implies that it was a new PM from Honko.[/quote] in previous games capped claims have always cleared town players. without tyler's death there would have been a larger push to get everyone to vote. who's to say supr is an admin? if there's a third team it might be a last resort. there's no way of knowing whether tyler's action even went through. and despite everyone claiming supr has been validated he's still leading in votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zarkov on 03/22/11 at 22:18:23 I go to bed, wake up, then check this thread at work. 10 more pages. mfw. Il do my best to read back and bring absolutely no insight to the table. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/22/11 at 22:29:18 From SuprSilva Quote:
So? Also says he will make another list. Wasn't it him who said that lists aren't important? Quote:
Already explained, BS silence claim in Pokemafia 2.0. Not buying it. From fank009 Quote:
Possible decoy play? Forgot who posted the next one... Quote:
A couple of possible senarios... 1. Nstride+MVT=Maf buddies? 2. Nstride and SS buddies as well, trying to cover up the fact that they are. 3. SS and MVT are buddies. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 22:37:55 after fank009 is dead we should go after suprsilver. This isn't rocket science boys. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 22:38:10 I've pounded the fuck out of NStride and Silver. They are BOTH maf leans for me right now. Not sure what you are reading RDBU but it's off course on all accounts. Don't put words in my mouth. Sorry Scott I broke your silly little rule. I'm not going to sit here and listen to an asshole who just got his ass up off the couch after people applied pressure to him, attacks me with a few posts, and will probably disappear inactive again in a few hours and won't return for days. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 22:39:53 Also the quote you used RDBU makes no sense whatsoever pertaining to your scenarios. #2 is the only one that makes any sense and I introduced that scenario MANY PAGES ago. Great job contributing anything new because you haven't. As scott said, you are taking the easy way out (like other people also are) and just focusing on supr and fank. Plus you used a scenario that I made up a long time ago and I pushed it very hard to no avail since no one believed me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 22:44:06 0820203C2A7D4F0 wrote:
Sensible plan. I actually think the opposite, and said it many fucking times. So many times in fact and with so little support that I gave up on it. Supr being lynched is better than fank though. Fank should be night killed. HOWEVER, why are you yourself not a mafia or admin member? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/22/11 at 22:47:06 I'm beautiful in my way 'cause Honko makes no mistakes I'm on the right track baby I was randed this way! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/22/11 at 22:50:48 http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/13/75378-TrollFace.png Fuck this I'm going to bed. I also am still not convinced that maf and admin are the same thing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/22/11 at 22:54:33 Not my fault if you can't read between the lines. Also, aggresive defence possibly? Quote:
Seen this done a fair bit in previous games too. I may not have played back then, but I still learned. And I'm not targeting anyone in particular, I'm targeting anyone who makes posts like this. Fank and SS brought all this on themselves. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/23/11 at 00:12:18 I'll have more time to catch up on this later, but for now I have one main thing I want to focus on: Sword, where are you? We need to know if you've been handicapped in some way. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 00:15:56 437672707B587261677661130 wrote:
-first off DO NOT DARE TALK about reading between the lines... Practice what you preach. -What is really wrong with the post? im trying to get information. Obviously you dont give a fank if you were an answer. -WHAT IS WRONG WITH GETTING INFORMATION... Are you against getting information... are you against giving information... SORRY. -Um... Posts like this ... lose you respect with your fellow players... Its posts like this that make the mafia win... Its posts like this that indicate you dont give a stuff bout the game or dont give a stuff about the town. To RDBU... Rhetorical Q. If goose recieves more votes than anyone will you jump on that bandwagon??? To Scott... Sorry bout disregarding your proposal... couldnt stand the shit coming out of this guys mouth. The Way you are thinking RDBU... You dont give a stuff who you vote for as long as a lynch happens. Town Leanz Scott Zwiebel MVT The Webinator Darius Maf Leanz Goose Padz - Brought up by scott... Didnt really say anything on the topic... Back on my suspicions - Reviewed comments concerning his "Handicap" Useless RDBU SS The Q is who to lynch... Push for goose or go for noob town??? (oh and MVT... as much as i hate to be the bearer of bad news... Vig Cant kill me yet... Town still needs me) Hey Darius... any input? Scott... i think goose broke it 1st and MVT was Ninja'd by honko. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 00:53:56 here are my thoughts from beginning of Day 2 to post 500. Going to watch a show and then continue. Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 01:52:25 476F6F736532000 wrote:
May i ask... everyone who is reading this... GET UP OFF YOUR LAZY ASS AND READ THE THREAD YOUR DARN SELF! Its Posts like these that stretch the truth. The lazy ass might see this and think... cool a summary of the day... Please note These are Goose's opinions... GET YOUR OWN OPINIONS YOU BANDWAGONING TOWNIES Goose: Stretching the truth now? Do i have to Quote you... AGAIN! Good to your word arent ya goose. A battle you want a battle you get. If you want me to tear this apart... Just ask |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 02:01:02 Pretty much just came on to re-read so I wouldn't be 10 pages in backlog, and now there will only be 7 Goose, NStride does have a "post restriction", or at least he's trying to act like he does. Not saying it has any bearing on the game because regardless if he acts like a troll or not it doesn't mean anything except for the content of those posts. Scott explained his reasons for the spam, which I can believe. You're 100% behind SuprSilver now, especially with that post, you do realize that? If he comes up mafia, you're looking horrible. A lot of this has already been stated, so it seems like a fluffy looking post to me. bbl guys, school time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:03:42 5F6E67675F6A676E0B0 wrote:
p much sums everything up here |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 02:14:06 0820203C2A7D4F0 wrote:
p much sums everything up here[/quote] So you would have people like RDBU and Zarkov over me? People who contribute 100% shit posts compared to someone who contributes but the english is shit? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:30:20 Your English is not what I don't like. You seem like a pretty cool guy who is trying very hard, but I think you're a mafia. I've played & posted with Zarkov many times. His attitude this game is townie. It's something I can read because I've known him online for a while. On the other hand, my read of you is that you're mafiaey. And can you stop quoting huge posts right above the post you're making? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:42:36 people in 500s (Ivo and Nstride) are being stupid Even if Supr votes, he probably gets modkilled, OR Honko puts the vote as counting on votecounts but it doesn't actually count. This is proper form for modding WW games because the mod never wants to spew anything away. Specifically what Ivo suggested is exactly what mods avoid by being as normative as possible. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:44:47 4E414B5645435A414B4A4A412F0 wrote:
yep, me advocating that fank is a bigger distraction to town and more likely to be mafia SURE IS ME TRYING TO SAVE SUPRSILVER. I AM LITERALLY JUMPING IN FRONT OF HIM AND BLOCKING BULLETS. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:46:31 6C60607F7C7B6A7D0F0 wrote:
100% accurate it is physically, theoretically and practically impossible for me to make wrong reads as a townie and advocate a town lynch over a mafia lynch due to me being a townie and not knowing the roles of the players. This has never happened in WW history as it is not possible A+ reading Cooper. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 02:47:11 Well... Nothing much i can do here for now... oh and Goose... BTW... Triple posting will NOT help you get past my post total for the game :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:48:46 3E313B2635332A313B3A3A315F0 wrote:
Because... I DONT THINK HES MAFIA AND I THINK ANOTHER PLAYER IS MAFIA |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:49:56 Fank, where I play mafia regularly, games go over 15 000 posts and some people even post 1 000 times each during those games.. I don't give a shit about the amount of posts made. They have nothing to do with what's inside of them. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:52:20 242A34600 wrote:
How does anyone expect a 12 year old kid to make a post this clever as a mafia member? Seriously. Suprsilver is 100% town. It's not possible for him to be mafia with a post like this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:53:16 09362F2F342A2533400 wrote:
He probably DOESNT KNOW that he was handicapped by the ADMIN Handicapper last night it's NOT ROCKET SCIENCE |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 02:53:47 456D6D716730020 wrote:
How does anyone expect a 12 year old kid to make a post this clever as a mafia member? Seriously. Suprsilver is 100% town. It's not possible for him to be mafia with a post like this.[/quote] Just because he isnt maf dosent mean he isnt a good lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:54:02 467960607B656A7C0F0 wrote:
you're literally the worst player in this entire game. You make Suprsilver, Nstride and fank009 all look like hall of fame mafia players. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:54:58 1A253C3C27393620530 wrote:
A+ you've achieved what is called "learning" [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 02:55:28 5F77776B7D2A180 wrote:
Damm... cant you take a joke? Anyway... The home stretch is going to be interesting to see who is lynched |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:56:47 212E24392A2C352E2425252E400 wrote:
ITT: Stating the obvious (in this case, that SuprSilver was handicapped BY THE DEAD FUCKING HANDICAPPER) is considered "leading a wagon off of a lock mafia suspect" |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 02:58:25 Ivo 587 I agree with your analysis on Darius. He hasn't made many impressions on me this game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 03:00:58 Honko said that there wouldnt be any stupid roles... Handicapper is pretty stupid... Seeing how everything is weird... Personally i think it may be a roleblocker type role (something we are familiar with) With 1st timers and noobs playing... He wouldnt make the roles COMPLETLY complicated. With all the town roles being given it seems "handicapper" is code named... Unless Honko is COMPLETLY screwing with my brain... So for Honko [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] Oh and goose ... bout the hall of fame comment... [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:03:40 4A756C6C77696670030 wrote:
Glad to finally see you on the right page. This is how I see things as well as of right now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:04:35 fank, out of curiosity, how old are you? I'm guessing like 15-16? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:06:45 7D504E4245424B270 wrote:
FWIW I've been in games on other sites where it's common on N1 for the mafia to silence/handicap one of their own, specifically to make them look like they're not mafia (that it was a mafia targeting a townie.) I'm not sure if any players here are smart enough to do that as a mafia team though, and I also don't think SuprSilver is mafia anyways, but it IS possible. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:07:41 7E4F46467E4B464F2A0 wrote:
Wow...as much as I hate to accept after just railing the fuck out of you the past pages and tearing u a new asshole..... that is a decent rather clear scenario and breaks apart a lot of the crowd of confusion. We did not do an adequate job of analyzing what may have happened in the night and that lead to a lot of bs theories. Hopefully I was wrong and that "coalition" I described was a town one and suprsilver really is just a 12 year old moron townie. I'm not really sure why the mafia took out cam though as Scott also noted. He was looking pretty scummy. Maybe it's just a n00b or inexperienced maf team besides sportsguy who decided to take things into their own hands. Ok inactives speak the fuck up! I need more opinions. I have no idea who I would vote for now. Someone has gotta make a strong case against someone.[/quote] Good to see you're on the same page finally as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 03:09:10 022A2A362077450 wrote:
im a bit older... but i have a secret that will explain everything that im not telling you guys :P (though you can guess im not going to say yay or nay) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:10:26 5C6D6876797C0C0 wrote:
it's called "someone would have counterclaimed by now if he were lying" |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 03:11:55 Something about how your playing tells me your may not maf... But your still likely scum imo. Yeah keep buring the good posts under your shit that you call intellegent posts... Give everyone YOUR opinion thats right keep doing it... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:14:26 7A455C5C47595640330 wrote:
I could support a potential RDBU lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:15:56 3D3A35306B6B625B0 wrote:
http://www.upload.speedrunwiki.com/images/general/trollface.jpg |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:16:56 172D0A363F2A1F1931313A0A363730395E0 wrote:
I'm going to call you out here. Were you even online last mafia game? Do you know where it is/how it happened/how RDBU's style was? Or are you just piggybacking off of other posts including mine that have been said? Also find it weird how RDBU is the only one you gave a reason for.[/quote] Epic catch. Implications here blow minds.[/quote] LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL FANK/RDBU AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA okay so there's 2 mafia down |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/23/11 at 03:18:00 Just a quick post to let you all know I'm still alive. Last time I was online was my last post on page 19! :o I'll skim through the pages later today and see what input I can give as a horrible player... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 03:19:43 Your taking things out of context... AGAIN. Im against RDBU as much as you are. (but no matter what i do you are the voice of reason arent ya goose. The little conscience inside everyones head saying... "pick this person" ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 03:20:48 536F686A667458714B070 wrote:
Some advice... DONT READ P33. unless you want to read about how Goose Ruled the world. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:36:01 final thoughts before bed; I'm not sure that ADMIN = MAFIA. It seems unfair that Honko would do that without making it clear to us, but then again it's unfair that he's not revealing the exact uses roles of the players upon death either. As of right now, I think that we should treat admin as mafia until someone dies and they're called mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 03:39:15 1931312D3B6C5E0 wrote:
:O :O :O WOW THATS two things we agree about... Are you absolutley Certain in going for me? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 03:40:24 And lastly, this is the most important thing you will read all day. ****************** ****************** 6D637D290 wrote:
There is NO WAY SuprSilver posts this as a mafia. You have to realize that he was 1 or 2 votes away from getting lynched here. This post was made quickly without thinking about it (or consulting mafiamates) and is natural from his soul. Furthermore, he's 12 years old and the functioning part of his brain that invents lies quickly to instinctively respond to the natural predation of women has not developed yet. His response is as truthful as it gets. His response signifies that he is upset that he is about to get lynched as a townie and he is really hoping that Honko all proves it to us upon his death, so that he can get some closure. If you believe that he could invent this post in order for us to THINK that "His response signifies that he is upset that he is about to get lynched as a townie and he is really hoping that Honko all proves it to us upon his death, so that he can get some closure." while actually being a mafia member, then I really question your logic skills and social knowledge. SuprSilver is 100% a handicapped townie. Thank you, and see you tomorrow. ****************** ****************** |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/23/11 at 03:56:01 This is the other thing I've learned through watching games. People can fake townie the whole game and get away with it if they were smart and careful enough. Vote: SuprSilva It'll probably a long game. One risk. Can't hurt too much if the right move is made during the night. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 04:06:58 I'm at school right now, just read a lot of posts in the train. Not going in depth for now, i'll do that later today I just want to know from all players who are currently voting on SS: What would be your second choice as lynch? Because most SS voters have been extremely close minded And i want to point out how terrible RDBU is still playing. Read my post about him, after that read his posts. Literary nothing has changed! He's still only focussing to keep the attention on SS and Fank. I also need to react on darius, because he's said quite some stuff i don't agree on. But i'll post that once i get home |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 04:10:50 I agree with goose last post. Yet another reason not to vote SS out. Combined with the reasons given before why it's bullshit to vote him out. And RDBU's last post is terrible again. Same post as he's made several times |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/23/11 at 04:18:59 ...Remember that this is only my second game. My second lynch choice would be Goose for defending SS, or YOU for the same reason. See, I'm not trusting anyone until I know for CERTAIN who they are. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/23/11 at 04:47:02 Ivo: I would back a TvL lynch next. His latest post is a real scummy appeal to emotion and his playing like this really seems at odds with what I'd expect from him as town. I'd also be happy to see a Koopz or RDBU lynch, which brings me to... Koopz: are you actually reading the game? Goose: Sword STILL hasn't posted today, so we don't know for sure that the handicap wasn't on someone else. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 05:17:49 wow, only two pages to read thru upon waking up, thats a little easier. yes darius i am reading the game. what i dont get is how people are trying to explore other options when we've clearly got two more people who are scummy enough that we can EASILY learn a whole lot of shit about other people's alignment by getting rid of the obv scum right now, and the obv scum is Silver, with fank not looking good either. goose, how are you being so close minded about Silver? there is NO WAY you know for sure 100% that Silver is handicapped town unless you were mafia yourself, and it was the mafia that handicapped him. you dont know ANYTHING for sure unless you yourself are mafia. you're making claims that you know 100%, and the only way i would believe them is if you were mafia too. the most you can be sure about anything in this game as a townie is 99%, and i'm 99% sure that Silver is mafia. anyone that denies a silver lynch being what we learn the most from today is prolly in league with each other and/or silver. blows my mind that people are trying to push other, less obvious agendas. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 05:35:43 *sigh* i've gotta go back to work, and i will be gone for the next 10 hours. i will post again before the end of the day though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/23/11 at 05:42:50 Shit. I've just spent more than an hour catching up and I'm not much wiser. I cannot spend that much time on this game, and to be perfectly honest, I don't want to either. I'll just put up a list. It's mostly gut feelings; I don't have the time to look up posts and give a detailed analysis to back them up. Town leans: - Ivo - NStride - Suprsilver - Timothy Mafia leans: - MVT - RDBU - RVZ - Web I've got to go out again tonight, so don't expect much more action from me this day. Just a quick vote/unvote to prove I'm not handicapped: Vote: Darius Unvote I've simply taken the first person in alphabetical order; don't read anything into it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 06:16:51 05393E3C30220E271D510 wrote:
Fuck yeah one list more, and so fucking much insight. If you want to contribute, don't make a list, since it will not help us if you don't give as any REASONS for your picks. That's why you should focus on one or two persons, if you don't have much time. giving us insight on one player is much better than giving us no insight on 21 players. I would like you to contribute more, even if it's just analysing one player of who you think he's Maf (like you voted Darius, only analyzing his posts would have been good). All your posts until now look Mafiaish, I'd really want to hear some actual analyzis from you. Edited to unbold quote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 06:17:55 Whoops, I forgot you just voted Darius because of the handicap issue, but you still didn't offer any analysis, so my point stands. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/23/11 at 06:19:51 ^ Way to go Zwiebel, next time first read then attack, ok? EDIT (within 1 min): sorry, I'm a bit edgy today, might have sounded a bit more harsh than intended. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 06:21:36 And I think Sword actually is the one handicapped. He's not the type of guy who isn't posting anything, especially since he was online as Web stated. If that really was true, Super could be lying about the handicap thing, or he got handicapped for editing his post by Honko and it was just pure luck that Sportsguy got killed and his name was HANDICAPPER. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 06:22:51 Are you still around for some time, TvL? I'd like to hear from you what you think about MVT, and why he is on your Maf lean list. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/23/11 at 06:26:46 1633203B2721520 wrote:
Sword hasn't been online for almost 2 days, so he couldn't even see that he was handicapped. About Goos;, I think he's town. Let's see, if Goose and Suprsilver were mafbuddies, I wouldn't go out and defend SuprSilver if I were Goose. SuprSilver was not far away from death, with almost every townie against him. No mafplayer would go out defending his mafbuddie at that moment of the game. Especially not a useless and bad mafbuddie like SuprSilver would be. That's just ridiculous Goose TOWN Suprsilver prob TOWN Vote: TvL His last 2 posts are ridiculous again. Do I need to say more? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/23/11 at 06:32:23 ^ Yes. So you think my posts are ridiculous. Does that make me mafia or just an unexperienced (forum) player? Are you going for an easy target? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 06:32:33 0027372C2A232331420 wrote:
Lol RVZ, you also brought up that theory, now you say it's not possible. And I just found this quote: 3426212A2D22372C317277430 wrote:
sorry web, again I accused you and it was wrong ;D Well you say that, so I don't know if I should believe it or not. I haven't seen him online in a long time as well, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been online all the time Anyway, I have to go for some time, see you later |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 06:43:07 Votals [5] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, Web, (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU [2] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT [2] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), Goose [1] TvL - RVZ [1] Zarkov - MattV [1] RDBU - Ivo [1] KoopZ - (NStride), NStride [1] MattV - Scott [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 13 hours or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 07:14:36 TvL you are online, now the fuck try to answer my question Why is MVT on your Maf lean list, I'd like to hear your argument for it |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/23/11 at 07:16:59 05393E3C30220E271D510 wrote:
I'm going for you cuz you're my only lean for now. I have to admit I haven't analyzed every single post from everyone through the whole thread. But you caught my attention from Day1. And with day2 slowly ticking to it's end, it's time to make a decision. It's to bad you're AFK again soon, so we cannot hear you speak some more again. But exactly this is what makes me suspicious of you. You quickly stopping by, post some half baked list just so you look somewhat active, and you're off again. That's huge scum behaviour! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/23/11 at 07:24:48 674A54585F58513D0 wrote:
Yes I'm online, periodically checking for new posts in order to give quick answers like this one. No need to go with font-size 40 all of a sudden. If you want a well-written essay on my suspicions on MVT, you'll have to wait, because right now I don't have the time to go into detail. Because you asked so nicely, I will try to find some time later tonight between dinner and going off for table tennis competition. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 07:40:37 Will, I've thought about this quite a bit before going to sleep last night. Would it make more sense that ADMIN = SK? I really have changed my mind about how I view this. I think ADMIN is indeed a third party. The SK would also be of similar mind to the mafia: wanting to keep the focus off him for the next day.. So maybe last night's actions were more like this: Sportsguy handicaps Suprsilver (keeps spotlight off him, makes easy next day lynch, etc., besides what do you do with this anyway?) Sportsguy kills Cam Mafia kill Sportsguy (gives few leads to anything, among other things) And no vig shot? :-/ I think KoopZ said something along these lines earlier though. I really follow Goose's post though about a 12 year old's social capacities etc. Kinda put to words what my gut feeling says. A suprsilver lynch also does teach us a lot about what others have been saying, but I will not vote for Silver again unless he makes a move that drastically changes my lean on him right now. I want to go for people that I think are mafia. Here's why my vote is on you KoopZ: If Silvr flips mafia, you've created a bus that's too strong to be legitimate. You can push for an "obvscum" kill, and the mafia may be willing to sacrifice one of their own (a bit of a noob too) to make each other look good. You haven't provided a whole lot of insight on other members from the rest of the game to now either. If Silvr flips town, you can say no mafia would push so hard for a kill of a town member, and they would at least try to look townie by investigating other cases in a little more detail. You can easily say your reasons are/were legitimate. Tack this on to how you started the day today, (just reinforcing what you admit you've already said), how you've in many places just provided filler, told the town to "keep up the good work" etc., and I have a good case against you I believe. Your lynch would tell us beyond a doubt I think what Suprsilver's affiliation is, which in turn would tell us a lot about what others have said about Supr, which contrapositive logically means that a lynch on you tells us the same amount of information as a lynch on Silver would, if not more. I think Silver is town, therefore I keep my vote on who I believe is mafia, and that right now is you. I look forward to your response in 10 hours. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/23/11 at 07:59:35 I guess Zarkov was telling the truth when he said he'd bring absolutely NO insight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 08:17:26 unvote Goose what do you think you're doing? Nice job letting the inactives speak up. Instead you fill the thread with propaganda. I see a few posts from RDBU and TvL and RVZ but who else? Vote: Goose I've been wanting to do this for the last 18 hours. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by TvL on 03/23/11 at 08:17:59 My thoughts on MVT: Right from the get-go, MVT has targeted J-Cop, fank and Suprsilver. The fact that J-Cop was town, and my feeling that Suprsilver is too (based on what has been said before by Ivo and Goose), have led me to put my eye on him. He seems pretty active but most of his posts are just rants on one or more members of this trio. Other targets have been Ivo and NStride, and for them I also feel he's put up a random rant and a vote. Next, he voted Goose out of the blue. My feeling says he's just pointing fingers around to keep attention away from himself. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/23/11 at 08:20:00 Scott you fucked up your votes. Fucking Clark isn't going to post anything. unvote SuprSilver doesn't even give a shit about this game anymore, and if he turns up town, Goose is sunk. Vote: Suprsilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 08:39:37 Something came up and I will unexpectedly be on the road until EOD. I will stay involved in a lesser capacity by reading from my phone. Don't expect very detailed analysis though. I'm thinking goose has really lost his mind. It really wouldn't make any sense for fank to be the lynch today because it would give us the least info. A supr lynch makes sense from the perspective of getting rid of a really shitty player and also learning a LOT about other ppl. I'm leaving my vote on goose though after his ridiculous antics last night. His posts were really crappily thrown together, even worse than some of fanks posts and it all seemed like a last ditch effort scam to get the wagon of silver to come to a halt. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 08:44:35 Fair enough tvl, but I said I would attack those 3 (fank, j-cop, silver) from the beginning. Even before the game started I knew they would be shitty. I also find it a bit strange that you are the one saying this to me after all you have done is post stupid reasonless lists and don't seem the least bit interested in the game (u even admitted this). Contribute more yourself to be honest dude. I don't gain a maf read from you cuz I think a maf would usually care more about playing. Just step up ur game. If you show half the interest u have for the maths topic in this thread u could be a great contributor. You had to have had at least a slight idea of what you were getting into when you signed up. So put some effort out and play like you care or at least pretend to care. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 08:53:49 So besides tvl being ironic (still townish) and goose being a scum (adminish), that's all I have to say at the moment. Also anyone really voting fank at this point a real cop out. He can easily be disposed of at night by a vig. We don't learn anything from his lynch. I'm off again... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 09:01:56 Votals [6] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, Web, (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV [3] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott [2] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), Goose [1] TvL - RVZ [1] RDBU - Ivo [1] KoopZ - (NStride), NStride [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 11 hours or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Matt V on 03/23/11 at 09:06:49 I'll be gone and can't get on before EOD, Supr better be mafia. :/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 09:38:34 Quick post from work. Shock, that's fair. I realize that I've been pushing for silver to be lynched pretty hard and I also realize I'm fucked if he turns up town. As you said about me though, I'm simply voting who I believe is the best possible lynch for town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 09:42:46 My vote will remain on silver. I think anyone supporting him still at this point is suspicious but secondary for today. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 10:07:29 5559594645425344360 wrote:
This is the kind of thing that I'm talking about. Adding that "for town" at the end. I would have said "best possible lynch" period. Tacking on that "for town" just sounds forced. You're also not thinking this through clearly. I think you're more "fucked" if he turns up mafia. Supr has played poorly, and having the mafia pull a move in which they push a noob maf out the door and rally behind it puts them all in good light and under the radar. Now here's the thing. There's enough of a case against Supr that he may still be lynched today. I actually wouldn't be terribly surprised if he turns up maf, but I want to point something out. Goose basically "took the bullets" for Silver, and got me to join in and solidify my defense against him. Now, he has brought the case against me, and once again the mentality of the thread is to lynch Supr, effectively screwing me if he turns up mafia. The mafia could be trying to set me up, but I will do what I can to kill those suspicions before this day ends. Now I turn to you Goose. You need to explain some things, and to be honest I rather think you can't. Why take the bullets for Super, get me to join in, then essentially encourage a derailment of the thread by pushing fank's case, then twisting my posts to appear maf, then going back and encouraging a Silver lynch? Then you go back and say don't lynch Silver, he's probably noob town based on social factors etc. You seem to be encouraging confusion, trying to control the mentality of the thread when you should be trying to encourage trains of thought, and you've been all over with your votes, posting large amounts, and many other things? I wish I could complete my thoughts on you man, but I just can't. [smiley=flush.gif] I want you to explain yourself the best you can, and tell us your town/maf leans from today. Also, what is your opinion of TvL? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 10:32:33 I really like your last posts Shock. I wasn't really sure about you until now but the last posts really sound Townish to me. Anyway, I agree about Koopz being suspicious, he hasn't given us any analyzis on his own and most of his posts are just summaries of others. I will look after some of his posts and try to demonstrate it. We surely need to hear more of Koopz, but the problem is that we also have to hear something from the rest of the inactives. I say we investigate them more on D3, after we got rid of Supr and Fank. I'm fairly sure Supr is Maf, and Fank obviously is not helping us, since when he's around we will always have to deal with his dumb posts. And there is the chance that actually both of them are Mafia or one of them is 3rd party. When both of them aren't there anymore, the inactives are forced to start talking and explain why the fuck they didn't do so earlier. Because they're in the center of the attention then, and I promise that I will vote for anyone who is not willing to give us information on D3. Of course we shouldn't forget to investigate the actives which look bad by what they did so far, but priority should be to get rid of those who don't want to help us obviously. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/23/11 at 10:45:19 416C727E797E771B0 wrote:
As far as I can see, Sword hasn't been on the boards at all since this day started. If he hasn't been online, he wouldn't be able to receive a PM telling him he was handicapped, so this doesn't make any sense at all. Koopz: if you're reading the thread, why are you saying that you're the only one who thinks SuprSilvr is scum? That's not even remotely close to the truth. You've basically sheeped my case on SS ever since I made it, so the fact that you're acting as though you're leading this crusade against SS and no-one's listening is laughable. Not only that, but SS is the leading wagon, so you're clearly not paying attention to other people's suspicions at all. NStride is spot on with both Koopz and Goose. I definitely agree that the 'for town' sounds forced. His 'anyone supporting him is suspicious' comment is also scummy; there's no analysis of play there or an attempt to judge anyone's motives, it's just throwing out blanket suspicion on anyone not backing the wagon. Goose is just jumping about all over the place with his opinions, spreading confusion and yelling at anyone who wants to consider anything other than lynching Fank. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 11:09:50 Back everyone. Still re-reading. First off, unvote, due to the chaos that is happening, and I'm honestly not as sure on SS anymore, since he seems to be scared in his posting. This post kills me. Utterly kills me. I'm almost tempted to vote RDBU now but I haven't finished re-reading. 467377757E5D7764627364160 wrote:
This post is hilarious. It says nothing. Absolutely nothing. RDBU can you honestly say that you think you're playing a good town game? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 11:10:52 2428283734332235470 wrote:
This post is super mafiaey. Tries to direct attention on maf/maf interactions which are probably impossible (I would literally have to have fed Fank every word of those posts and had him cooperate to post them, pretty much having him concede all his participation in the game.) On top of that he points out that several players are MIA today and says we should pay attention to that so he can appear townie. If Camster does turn up mafia, RVZ is probably a townie because I doubt Cam would want to be making excuses for a mafia buddy. I also think there's a chance Cooper is lying about being out today. Just a chance. He is a busy guy and it could be honest, but he's a smart player, so if he's mafia, that's a perfect excuse to get a free pass on day 1.[/quote] Only making a post to defend the fact that I am out of town, I am posting from my iPod and that I am not able to post properly until I get back in town late tomorrow night. I told robin this before the game even started but that I would still like to be included and I would follow as best I could on day 1. Only read up to page 5 so far. I think fank is just dumb town, but haven't been able to read more than that from anyone else so far. Goose you're also a smart player and could be playing a very trustworthy townie right now. Not outright suspicious of you but judged wanted to say your argument goes both ways. Gonna keep reading and see if I can make another post before going to sleep. [/quote] 2nd post, already going like "don't fucking accuse me I'm outta Town". Also he brings up a point of Goose which I said basically one page ago. Nothing new/interesting. 606C6C7370776671030 wrote:
Directly goes into defense when accused of being teamed up with Darius. Then brings TvL in the discussion, and saying he thinks he's town because he's doing the same than him. To look better and get attention away from you? Also, King obvious for working out that zark has brought nothing of value in here yet. 3935352A292E3F285A0 wrote:
Why you know that? Cause your Maf? The rest of this post has been analysed earlier, I just wanted this quote anyway because I think we can really get much out of that tone. Also he's just going with the bandwagon without much telling by himself. 737F7F6063647562100 wrote:
;D Says the guy who didn't even have a VOTE on ANYONE Day1. Oh sure. Silver is mafia, more like you've noticed he's dug himself in a hole he can't get out of, will be lynched today, and you want to come out of it clean! Unvote Vote: KoopZ [/quote] i barely posted day 1, much less voted and i explained myself for it. if you cant read, its not my fault. nice try shock.[/quote] Props to Shock for already pressuring Koopz early on for that. Guess that sums up what Koopz plan might be. Also notice how he always just shows up when pressured/mentioned. Otherwise, there was barely any contribution. Still the same can be applied until now. Koopz definetely needs to be observed tomorrow. I'd even say that if we have a seer left, he should peek Koopz. Or an inactive. Either way would be good. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 11:14:37 5E736D61666168040 wrote:
Lol RVZ, you also brought up that theory, now you say it's not possible. And I just found this quote: 3426212A2D22372C317277430 wrote:
sorry web, again I accused you and it was wrong ;D Well you say that, so I don't know if I should believe it or not. I haven't seen him online in a long time as well, but that doesn't mean he hasn't been online all the time Anyway, I have to go for some time, see you later [/quote] Sorry if this has already been covered, but actually you can go on the profile and see if he's been online. When I made that post, he wasn't on after D2 started, and therefore couldn't post. His account has not been online since that time (and looking at recent posts, I'm assuming he still hasn't been), so he still couldn't have been watching. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 11:17:33 Okay, I'm kind of flipping around again, but as people have stated, either fank or SS need to get lynched to get this town on track, and because of that I'm just going to go back and Vote: SuprSilver looks like my fank vote again, wooo for two days in a row with a scum looking vote! We can easily explore other options for discussion, and interrogate people but regardless of who looks bad today, I believe that we need to lynch those who are hogging up all of the conversation in order to get focused on those hiding in the dark. I'm going to stick with this for the rest of the day, but am obviously willing to talk about more options. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 11:20:23 Final post and then I'm done catching up. An observation I noted is there are a huge amount of people making up excuses. If you're not actually available to play, or can't stop in every once and a while to provide analysis, why did you sign up to play the game? I understand people have things to do but TvL, KoopZ, MattV (Zarkov to an extent, although he isn't really making excuses) have all done this multiple times, which makes me think they're watching the SS and fank debate laughing about the complete lack of progress by the town. This adds to the point that we need to lynch SS and fank, and move on to other suspects. Their deaths are crucially important to the town actually winning this game, even if they both flip town (which I think is highly unlikely) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 12:03:08 020E0E1112150413610 wrote:
There is NO WAY humans know for sure 100% that objects fall towards the ground due to gravity. It's just a theory. There is NO WAY we know this unless we are God and it was us who created it. We don't know ANYTHING for sure unless we ourselves are God. We make claims everyday that we know 100%, and the only way we should believe them is if we are God too. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 12:24:43 4C43495447415843494848432D0 wrote:
I didn't do all of that paragraph 2 stuff. I tried to lead the lynch of Silver because it was obvious to me that he was handicapped, and since I'm not on the mafia team, I think it's beyond the mafia to handicap one of their own. I quoted like 50 posts last night and called the thoughts as I saw them. That's a very townie thing to do because it shows you're not afraid to give your thoughts without thinking about them too much. When mafia does this, they slip up. TvL could be mafia. He's not a top, intelligent content contributor, so he might be mafia, but he's a bad lynch today because we simply don't know yet. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 12:30:00 Goose, what's the best lynch today in your opinion? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 12:31:01 Aside from fank, who will hopefully be NK'd this night |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 12:31:40 If no one wants to vote fank, then here's a post I saw last night which caught my eye as being stupid. 427773717A597360667760120 wrote:
unvote vote: Resident Dry Bones User Legitimately this is the worst post I've seen in the history of the internet. It's a complete nothing post like theweb just said. RDBU's whole contribution this game has been NOTHING. If we're not voting for fank, can we at least vote RDBU? I do agree that Cooper could be a mafia as well because a lot of his posts are similar to this one. I don't believe for a second that Sword is handicapped. What's more likely... a noob kid who has no lying skills at all posts that he's handicapped, because he is, or someone who is probably too busy for the thread is handicapped and another player in game is risking their entire game by pretending they were handicapped instead? Clearly the former. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 12:32:44 asdfasdfasdf top of page glitch |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/23/11 at 12:38:30 Top town leans: NStride (Has an eye for detail) Webinator (Has posts that contribute, though can sometimes be questionable. Darius (Doesn't always follow along with what everyone says, has his own opinions which are reasonable) Top mafia leans: Fank (Posts just don't make sense) KoopZ (His posts really say nothing about him and his thinking is either mafia-ish or flawed). RDBU (Reasoning is bad and he seems to go along with what everyone says) Most neutral people: Goose (Changes opinions a lot, can be wrong or right) TvL (Doesn't post a whole lot, the posts he does post contribute to the discussion though, and they MOSTLY have good reason behind them) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 12:40:32 Fuck yeah, another list. I wonder when people will stop making those useless shit. Also I wonder where you saw good reason behind TvL's arguments, can't see any besides in his last post, and it was not that hard to find that out. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 12:44:25 Sword is online, fuck yeah. I guess he's not handicapped, I forgot that you could look at the profile to see when someone was online the last time. Guess that wasn't really well-thought ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 12:45:18 Wow what a shit storm. 715959455304360 wrote:
^ Lol @ how retarded that is. The things we know and believe are defined in OUR OWN TERMS so they are correct as we know them. This day has been unfortunate tbh. I thought that the D1/N1 results would bring us loads of info but people are going off the rails and I'm confused as phuck. I think this is now just a case of preparing as well as possible for D3 which should bring a lot more substance to the surface. In all honesty a Supr lynch seems like the best current lynch; the D1 edit issue said a lot and his name hasn't been completely cleared today. I see what you're saying Goose but what's to say the mafia wouldn't tell Supr to claim a handicap? "Hey ghuyz, the town is confuzed, why not confuze them some more?" That kinda thing. Still not liking TVL, made that clear on D1 but I'd really hate if he was lynched and turned out to be helpless town. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 12:46:52 Timothy I only made that retarded re-wording of Cooper's post to illustrate that his post was retarded. Apparently you missed that point so maybe you're retarded as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 12:56:06 No I understand that I'm just saying it was a poor attempt at a burn. Also RDBU is completely inept and shouldn't be in this game either. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 13:01:17 then VOTE HIM If we really aren't going to vote for fank then RDBU is the next best option. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 13:05:25 477861617A646B7D0E0 wrote:
SS is a good lynch because we need to get rid of the bad players He hasnt posted at all since he last posted and that is still dodgy in my book. But even If he is not maf... He has not brought anything intellegent to the conversatin and therefore has to go. (but there are bigger fish to fry imo.) Right now we NEED people who will help the town... by contributing... There are lots of people who are not contributing... 1F110F5B0 wrote:
WTH... Are you reading my posts? or are my techinques of writing too complicated for your young immature brain? Anyway It has some insight but... GOOSE AS NEUTRAL ... for the reason you stated sounds like a maf reasoning... Goose... Trying to find favour with me and Vote RDBU so I can gain your respect... I may say its a good move but im not a fool. Anyway the MORE SS talks He screams something different with each post... one posts he screams maf, the next town etc. MVT Now... I know you want me gone badly but is this heart going over mind? I know whats best for the town at the moment... and after all the shit on day 2 im not quite ready to accept that a Fank NK is best for N2 action... there are 4-5 more people less contributive than me... And i am getting some work done here... :P Now I trust your judgement a bit and if you honestly believe there is no one else better for a night kill, ill accept it. Also i think a fankD3 lynch will tell us more info than a Fank N2 kill... just the way i see it. Weber... you latching on to MVTs ideas??? Town Leanz Scott Zwiebel MVT The Webinator Darius Maf Leanz Goose Padz Useless as fank RDBU SS Zarkov- You need to post more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 13:08:18 I'm thinking Goose. We've still got a bit of time. RDBU probably won't post anymore on D2 and it's about the best overall lynch. If Supr and RDBU are both maf (let's say) then Supr is the better lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/23/11 at 13:21:01 2027282D76767F460 wrote:
My laptop won't charge so I have to use a different computer which I have to share. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 13:31:14 6866782C0 wrote:
My laptop won't charge so I have to use a different computer which I have to share. [/quote] No. This is not the point. The point is whenever you post, you post useless shit, and you dodge questions from EVERYONE, you continue to post these lists, but it's not the lists that bother me; It's the time you post them. 5A544A1E0 wrote:
You are playing so safe. You really just have no idea. You post this list AFTER all the discussion going on, even when you stated you'd post one much earlier, then you proceeded to dissapear. For example, RDBU and KoopZ. "Seems to go along with what everyone says" fat hypocrite statement right there. Goose and TvL are easy "neutral! picks also. You just remind me of scum players from past games - following closely, lurking most of the time, lying (will get to later) and just being unhelpful. Why the hell are people switching to RDBU? He tells us nothing. NOTHING AT ALL. He's singled himself out from the crowd so far that lynching him gives us absolutely no leads at all. Lynching Suprsilver would give us the insight on 4 or 5 people, which is HUGE gain, at least from my perspective. I don't buy the handicap shit either. Sorry. I've done the exact same thing as scum in a past game, and it just doesn't mean shit to me. I don't even care if he flips town to be fair, his posts make me cringe and I cannot take it. He is so un-cooperative, uninsightful and people insist on saving him? Please. He has made no effort to answer any questions and doesn't even care. Vote: Suprsilver |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 13:33:44 I also spent 2 hours reading from Page 16 to now also, which includes 100 posts from fank rambling on in emotional talk that I cannot dechiper, complete with Goose jargon and a load of other horseshit. I haven't been on before Day 2 started so I haven't been able to post. I know alot of people have been talking about it so I am sorry about that. I will be available from now onward. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 13:42:59 I also agree with those when they say that fank is making it harder for town to progress anywhere due to his posts - in both quantity (there are so many of them, it's unnecessary) and quality (some of the posts I've actually read over more than twice and I still don't get the point of it) Either way I think Ivootjes is thinking too much into the night action. We have no idea what the ADMIN is, what it does, and even though it's a pausible theory, I don't think it warrants us going for someone who "is much more useless" when instead, he has caused much less confusion than Suprsilver, his main flaw being inactive and only speaking when spoken to. Suprsilver has broken the rules, ignored questions, made up excuses and not contributed any ideas to the table. As far as I'm concerned, he's more of a hinderance than a help. RDBU I admit hasn't helped at all. But why him imparticular? Why not Zarkov, Padz or many others who have sat back and said hardly anything? Is it solely because of his participation in the game you hosted, where you forced him to speak in nonsense? I admit he's posted shit here too, but at least he hasn't LIED and IGNORED people, then made up bogus excuses of his lack of participation. Edited to fix the wording of a sentence |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 13:54:04 492C2D2C1D0 wrote:
http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi Again i must apologise if after 1000 times reading the davinci code is closer than my posts to be cracked. So sword are you suggesting... Lynch SS today... Kill fank tonight... deal with RDBU later... Not a bad idea But the SS lynch will halt it at right about ...............here^ I hope you know what your doing for the towns sake... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 13:54:43 Votals [7] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, Sword [3] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott [2] RDBU - Ivo, Goose [1] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose) [1] TvL - RVZ [1] KoopZ - (NStride), NStride [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 6 hours (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 14:06:21 3D3A35306B6B625B0 wrote:
http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi Again i must apologise if after 1000 times reading the davinci code is closer than my posts to be cracked. So sword are you suggesting... Lynch SS today... Kill fank tonight... deal with RDBU later... Not a bad idea But the SS lynch will halt it at right about ...............here^ I hope you know what your doing for the towns sake...[/quote] The thing is. Suprsilver is just fishy no matter how you look at him. I can guarantee you if he makes it alive after today, he will be suspected later on. I'd rather have him dealt with accordingly so it's one of towns problems out of the way - permanently. I don't actually have much problems with you as a player, I don't get bad vibes from you as much as I do from Suprsilver, or J-Cop for that matter. I understand this didn't turn out positively, but you have to admit, his attitude was flat out disgusting. Kind of like Suprsilver in a way. I just find your posts to be ... very confusing, to say the least. No offense. I know your heart is in the right place and you mean well, but your wording just grabs me by the hips and fucks me sideways. I won't be going for RDBU unless he makes a really obvious mistake. He hasn't done so yet. To me, he's playing just like he did in Ivo's game. Aka, mindless and senseless. If he is mafia, then I am under no hurry to extinguish him yet. He's harmless and isn't causing much confusion. I need Suprsilver gone, however. That's primarily why so many people want you dead fank. Your posts are enourmous and people have a hard time getting the meaning from them. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 14:08:40 So More posts smaller portions... e.g work with one quote at a time in each post? (like goose did :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 14:09:54 Can someone give me ONE REASON why they think SuprSilver is mafia? It just seems like the idea was incorrectly thrown around and then everyone latched onto it like the word of God. Show me ONE POST that makes him mafia. I already showed a post that makes him not mafia, so show me one that makes him mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 14:12:56 Goose... It was the editing of the list that got him suspected in the 1st place... and Editing is just too big a thing to ignore. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 14:18:18 his list edit on day 1 is mafia like. his very lackadaisical attitude after being accused. asking to be lynched. immediately going for the handicap excuse to to try and make him seem useless and to shrug the attention off of him. any number of posts that he's made just scream mafia to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 14:19:12 614949554314260 wrote:
There is NO WAY humans know for sure 100% that objects fall towards the ground due to gravity. It's just a theory. There is NO WAY we know this unless we are God and it was us who created it. We don't know ANYTHING for sure unless we ourselves are God. We make claims everyday that we know 100%, and the only way we should believe them is if we are God too.[/quote] this is such a stupid post its not even funny. nothing at all to even do with the game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 14:23:38 None of them scream mafia to me, and you pointing out that my gravity post had "nothing to do with the game" is very mafiaey. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 14:24:32 416969756334060 wrote:
One reason? The list edit and self contradiction? One post? How is that how it always works? You can't always pin a lynch on a single post from someone. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 14:32:16 anyone is able to edit posts afaik only villagers are able to make the clutch post about "hoping Honko tells them I was handicapped" you're all wrong and it's tilting me to no end do you seriously not understand what's going on right now? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 14:34:23 1931312D3B6C5E0 wrote:
Wrong. I respect you Goose as a mafia player, but here is exactly what you did = http://movies.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/shrek-puss-in-boots.jpg <Goose> Look at Suprsilver he's so young and innocent awwww! Don't you just wanna cuddle him? How cute! The fact that he is 12 in no way is proof of him a) being innocent b) being honest and c) not lying about a claim to save his ass. Why don't you look for an actual proper reason as to why he's mafia instead of assuming shit based on his age. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 14:37:37 I guarantee SuprSilver is not mafia. How's that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 14:41:56 Sounds like a claim to me. If it's not a claim then I don't know what is. Or you're pulling the biggest TheGaff right now. Alright then Goose, what other reason do you have to lynch fank other than his posts being confusing? What leads you to believe he has a higher chance of being mafia than Suprsilver? You honestly think a mafia player would get this emotionally attached to the game just to win? If fank were to be lynched, what would be your cause of action on D3 if a) fank flipped town b) fank flipped mafia Interested to know. Your mind has been all over the place lately so I think it'd be nice to hear what your current thoughts are at this point. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 14:45:21 Um sword... Goose thinks SS is 100% Town. Goose please tell me... are you trying to mess up the towns plan by voting for pushing to encourage someone other than Fank or SS? The plan was ... one gets lynched the other gets night killed. If someone else gets lynched today the only way the two will be dead by tommorrow is if the vig shoots SS and maf shoot me. The only way thats going to happen. But the next few phases will tell us a lot about everyone. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Darius on 03/23/11 at 14:47:10 Right, so we can be pretty sure that no-one else is handicapped now that Sword has posted. The question is, would Sportsguy have handicapped his own teammate to create this situation whereby people don't think that Supr could be mafia, or is it genuine and Sportsguy did it to make Supr look even more suspect? It seems like people have divided into two camps on this, so it's possible that there are Sportsguy's buddies leading whichever side of the debate suits them. My instinct is that Supr didn't need any more of a hole digging for him, so handicapping him is something of a strange play; they could have used it on a player who was going to post a lot and use their vote to exert pressure frequently. Instead they chose Supr, who, along with Fank, was the prime candidate for today's lynch at the end of D1. The only way I can see it being the optimal play for Sportsguy if Supr's not on his team is if Fank is on his team, and it was an attempt to make sure Supr got lynched. As I think Fank is town, I'm not putting too much stock in this theory, so I'm confident that the Supr wagon is on scum. 47222322130 wrote:
I think this pretty much encapsulates how I feel about Fank's posting. I think some of the conclusions he reaches are pretty nonsensical, but I really get the impression that it's all genuine. Goose: if you really don't know why I think Supr is mafia, you've got a serious problem with playing attention to the game. Maybe you don't agree with the conclusions I've drawn, but I've made it pretty damn obvious why I think Supr's mafia. I don't agree with your suspicion that Fank's mafia, but I certainly know why you think he's mafia. So either start paying attention to the game or admit you've read my reasons and you just don't agree with them, because I've made my suspicion perfectly clear. Finally, I really don't see how Supr wanting Honko to confirm he was handicapped is any indication of his alignment whatsoever. It's just an indication that he wants his story to be backed up. How does that prove he is town? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 14:50:25 Fank, I don't care what side you are on now, or what role you could possibly have. You need to die. I am now convinced that you are incapable of thinking, and your posts must be lowering the overall intelligence of everyone by at least 10, regardless of affiliation. Unvote Vote: fank009 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 14:51:14 446172697573000 wrote:
Exactly... If SS was smart he would Know that mods dont display night actions till after the game ends. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 14:55:03 6E696663383831080 wrote:
Exactly... If SS was smart he would Know that mods dont display night actions till after the game ends.[/quote] How do you know this? This is your first game on these boards, and I think it's pretty clear that you don't and haven't read through any other games. Your scummates tell you, in an effort to educate you on some things? [smiley=roll.gif] Further, this is Suprsilver's first game too. That post screams genuine to me, and I'm going to trust Goose's claim for now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 14:57:35 636C667B686E776C6667676C020 wrote:
That made about as much sense as all of my posts combined... If you think im incapable of thinking do you want my thoughts??? The above posts suggests that you think im a stupid arse with an IQ less than 10 and by participating and speaking in this game... this lowers everyones IQ by 10. You dont care what role i play in the game you just want me gone. Now to show some more thinking... I think its peculiar that the same people have voted me on day 1 and day 2... and many of them change the votes as soon as the "fank train" appears to have stopped. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 15:03:58 616E64796A6C756E6465656E000 wrote:
Town Leanz Scott Zwiebel MVT The Webinator Darius Maf Leanz Goose Padz Nstride- You and goose have similar ideas (bolded in the quote) Useless as fank RDBU SS Zarkov How do i know this... If i did the exact same thing you would say that it screams maf. I have a hunch SS is town... but an SS lynch is Crucial to town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 15:08:14 6A6D62673C3C350C0 wrote:
I'm finding it hard to keep my douchebag behavior the source of my role restriction fank, and not reality. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 15:11:48 I am just loving by the way how quickly you put me and others on your mafia leans. The only thing that needed to change was my vote and how "personally" I'm attacking you. And yes, believe it or not, that was an objective statement and not every word that comes out of my mouth now automatically makes me scum. ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/23/11 at 15:12:08 fuck off shock |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 15:13:45 My vote is on RDBU right now. last night's interaction with fank made me think that he might be a townie who messed up early and doesn't want to die. I thought fank was mafia based off his responses to questions I asked, as well as the theories he brought up about various ideas. He talked about mafia/admin/town like he knew more than we did. His voting has been erratic at best and he never has solid reasoning for these votes. He appeared to be a mafia who didn't know that what he was doing was mafiaey. But again, I'm letting off him because last night gave me the impression he's a scared townie. So please more votes on RDBU. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 15:15:40 I went on and on about it about 10 pages ago but ill reiterate it once again. Nstride wants no part of a supr lynch. Him and goose are in a coalition. Supr will most likely flip maf and like I said before my vote will be on nstride the entire day tomorrow no matter what if supr flips maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 15:18:11 I'll eat my socks if that claim is true. I don't think a Town Goose would claim anything to save someone who is not even contributing to this game on Day 2. Lynching Silver= Getting rid of a semi-active, not giving any useful information and probably Mafia guy. RDBU lynch is a joke compared to what a Silver lynch will give us. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 15:19:37 133B3B273166540 wrote:
MVT what do you make of this statement? Seems very bold to me. However Goose is notoriously known for his ability to lie in mafia games in order to gain credit. And Goose, I apologise for misreading that, but there was a lot to go through so I got lost on who suspected who. But can you please tell me why RDBU is a good candidate for a lynch? Is he really that harmful to town as an inactive who talks a load of shit and just follows the general opinion? As opposed to Suprsilver, who has LIED several times, blatantly edited out posts, posted suspicions based on NO reason / reasons that others have stated, whilst being TOTALLY un-cooperative. Please. Enlighten me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 15:20:52 567B65696E69600C0 wrote:
http://swellguy.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d1ea853ef01053688327d970c-450wi |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 15:24:42 012929352374460 wrote:
Wtf????? I thought you were adamant about Fank not too long ago. As sus as RDBU is, how you can possibly think lynching him carries more weight than a Supr lynch? You're posting is so strange at the moment, I'm tempted to vote for you. I'm wondering if a Goose lynch would be viable and what do people think of this? Right now you're Fank + 1. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 15:26:12 Nice of you, padz, AND Zwiebel to join us MVT right after Goose made his seer claim. And ALL basically going with conspiracy theories. Although padz's post was more of a.. well, non-contributive and homosexually inclined 3-word piece of shit. [smiley=beer.gif] Am I hitting a nerve? I don't see how you can come to that conspiracy conclusion. What more do I need to do to prove that I am town? ;D Finally, KEY POINT HERE: Goose's claim as Seer has light BECAUSE HE DID THROW HIMSELF OUT THERE TO DEFEND SS. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 15:26:31 Just checked the votals and hence Vote: Goose You've become what we were aiming to rid; a troll with a misleading style who keeps changing his mind. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 15:27:08 If you're thinking about what that statement means, it probably means what you think it means. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 15:27:49 Timothy is 100% mafia I'll peek him tonight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 15:29:08 Lol you're such a joke. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 15:29:39 Top of the Page!!!! Votals [7] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, Sword [4] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, Tim [2] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), NStride [2] RDBU - Ivo, Goose [1] TvL - RVZ [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 4.5 hours (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 15:29:54 PS phuck your life. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 15:33:26 Tim, lynching goose won't help us as much as Silver. If Silver is Mafia, goose is basically confirmed Mafia as well. And I'm pretty sure exactly that will happen. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 15:34:20 656A607D6E68716A6061616A040 wrote:
Proof or it never happened |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 15:34:28 Your own arguments fall flat on their own faces! > RDBU lynch gains us nothing! - Agreed. Not going to support a lynch here. > Suprsilver lynch tells us everything! - And what if he flips town like Goose is saying he will? Town Seer claim is bold on Day 2, but he rather needed to do it to clear many things up. > Lynch fank009 is a great option though. - He's clogging the thread, and, to be honest, opens up options for the town vig. FFS if you people want to know affiliations, give the vig the option to kill me. I'll die with what I know is a job well done here. Also fank, did your maf buds tell you to shut up? [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 15:35:36 Why did you scan Suprsilver Night 1? There are way better options than Suprsilver. This makes me mad. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 15:36:16 Oh I guess you are posting. How did it take you that long to post a single line though? Did you conveniently need to do a chore or something? [smiley=dankk2.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 15:36:20 If SuprSilver flips mafia then there is someone who has a role where you get a reverse action on your night action. Or he's the Godfather. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 15:36:27 0C213F3334333A560 wrote:
The difference between Goose and SS is that Goose is professional and SS is Noob... For those who play with goose knowing his status will be a big help on everyone else. I see Goose lynch>SS lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 15:37:16 56333233020 wrote:
I hunt for wolves. It was either him or fank. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 15:37:49 39140A0601060F630 wrote:
:-/ I know you're right and I shouldn't let myself get so frustrated by his ridiculous play... unvote Gonna check back to Goose's role claim... @ Zwiebel - if Supr gets lynched and is town, what would the next plan of action be? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 15:38:17 We can lynch SuprSilver because it will only give me more credibility, but I'll probably be dead by tomorrow morning. And this is only OK if the town is fine with lynching a townie for the sake of being proven wrong. personally I think it's a horrible idea. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 15:39:55 Goose that screams bull. Why was it necessary to claim your role (which everyone is saying but I can't seem to find, did I just miss it obviously) when you aren't even the main suspect right now? If you're the real cop, now doc is going to have to go all out and make a huge decision. Stupid stupid stupid move. I'm sticking on SuprSilver now, because regardless of how he turns out, we'll know about Goose (who, if I may add denied going 100% town earlier when I said it in the day, and even voted SuprSilver). If you have a huge hunch he's town, why vote him? nvm found the "claim". |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 15:41:57 4961617D6B3C0E0 wrote:
There is such thing called an Insane Cop, where you get the inverse of what the person actually is. Brett scanned me and I came back mafia when I was actually doctor in Ivootjes' game. I see what you mean via the above but that would mean we're only keeping him alive for the sake of townie count. Do you agree that as a player he's one of the least helpful currently? And why scan Tim tonight? Why not scan someone who actually has little to no clarity, like TvL or KoopZ? Not sure quite what to do here. There is the possibility you're lying too, but I'm not too sure. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 15:42:05 032B2B372176440 wrote:
Why was it a good idea to "claim" as seer then, I don't understand that logic. You basically are killing yourself off to save a noob townie? That makes no sense to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 15:44:36 515E54495A5C455E5455555E300 wrote:
Me Clogging the thread... The postals for day 2 fank009 65 IsThatAGoodTime 63 Goose 62 NStride 43 MVT 42 Ivootjes 39 Matt V 32 Zwiebel 29 thewebinator 25 KoopZ 21 padz 17 Suprsilver 15 Darius 15 Timothy 14 Honko 10 Resident Dry Bones User 10 TvL 10 RVZ 8 S[ch969][ch959]rd 8 Zarkov 7 Camster 1 For Day 1 fank009 78 Goose 36 IsThatAGoodTime 36 thewebinator 33 NStride 30 Zwiebel 23 Camster 20 MVT 16 Matt V 16 Timothy 12 S[ch969][ch959]rd 12 Honko 11 Suprsilver 11 Darius 10 J-Cop 8 TvL 7 RVZ 7 Zarkov 6 Resident Dry Bones User 5 padz 4 KoopZ 3 Ivootjes 3 Sportsguy001 2 From day 1 sure im clogging the thread but day 2? your claim has no meaning. I think its strange that you mentioned the Vig kill me part... You do know the benefits to town dont you??? I play the way i play cause i have no choice But to play the way to stay alive... Goose tripped me up P1 and i have been staggering ever since... But We all know that it is both good and bad news for the town to be alive. Now a goose lynch looks probable... I dont know why that isnt in your "list"... Is it because it will never happen? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 15:45:35 527A7A667027150 wrote:
You're dead regardless what Suprsilver flips. Unless the mafia decide not to go for you, or if you get protected by the doctor. And I agree with web. If that was me I would have not claimed and let him die. He isn't one of the strongest players on the field and if you are actually the cop then this was a stupid move. This is why I'm inclided to believe you're lying. Surely you wouldn't claim on Day 2 as the cop to save someone who has played beyond awfully? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 15:47:54 383231322C324B0 wrote:
:-/ I know you're right and I shouldn't let myself get so frustrated by his ridiculous play... unvote Gonna check back to Goose's role claim... @ Zwiebel - if Supr gets lynched and is town, what would the next plan of action be?[/quote] If Supr is Town, we got rid of someone who wouldn't have helped us anyway. And goose would earn some trust, even it wouldn't clear him because of his weird acting altogether today. The doctor should protect goose and goose can have a peek and tells us his results. If the vig kills fank this night(what he should do) goose should probably peek an inactive or someone he thinks is Maf(if he's Town, he'll be smart enough to get a good peek himself anyway). Other than that, we can still draw some lines after who went pretty hard against Supr and who avoided opinions/protected him. And we can look after the inactives, but we should do that anyway. I know there are much less opportunities for us if he flips Town, but that risk will always be there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 15:49:06 0921213D2B7C4E0 wrote:
I hunt for wolves. It was either him or fank.[/quote] 6C4444584E192B0 wrote:
um... 1st off... I think the term wolf is wierd for a Maf game (even though its the same game but its just my opinion. Second of all If you had such a conviction i was maf why didnt you scan me as seer? You were saying that all day... So you being seer DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 15:52:10 113C222E292E274B0 wrote:
What If... Fank dosent die tonight? what could that mean? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 15:52:15 Yeah, I guess the insane cop or godfather is a possibility. The mafia though clearly went along with the SS lynch though. They would not let him just die like that, and really the only thing stopping his death was Goose's intervention. With that said, perhaps the mafia would have been willing to sacrifice their own, which doesn't rule out the possibility that Goose could be the insane cop... :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 15:52:56 18352B2720272E420 wrote:
:-/ I know you're right and I shouldn't let myself get so frustrated by his ridiculous play... unvote Gonna check back to Goose's role claim... @ Zwiebel - if Supr gets lynched and is town, what would the next plan of action be?[/quote] If Supr is Town, we got rid of someone who wouldn't have helped us anyway. And goose would earn some trust, even it wouldn't clear him because of his weird acting altogether today. The doctor should protect goose and goose can have a peek and tells us his results. If the vig kills fank this night(what he should do) goose should probably peek an inactive or someone he thinks is Maf(if he's Town, he'll be smart enough to get a good peek himself anyway). Other than that, we can still draw some lines after who went pretty hard against Supr and who avoided opinions/protected him. And we can look after the inactives, but we should do that anyway. I know there are much less opportunities for us if he flips Town, but that risk will always be there.[/quote] Gonna throw out there the possibility that Goose is not cop and is actually mafia. He would know Suprsilver is town from this and could easily tell us the names of other town players (since he has that info since he is from the maf) Before you say "NAH GOOSE IS DEFO COP OTHERWISE SOMEONE WOULDA COUNTERCLAIMED!", a smart cop would not counterclaim at this point and would carry on getting scans until he chooses to reveal accordingly. Then again if the legitimate cop were to die from lynch or at night that would most likely auto kill Goose (unless there are more than 1 cop - see Ivootjes' game) Just saying that if Suprsilver flips town, that doesn't make him definite cop. Edited - Unbolded the unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 15:53:51 6D7F7873747B6E75682B2E1A0 wrote:
Does anyone else agree with this? Why would he vote someone he scanned and came up innocent? That makes 0% sense, probably even a negative percent. I'm really looking forward to see how he tries to talk his way out of that. ~Goose's voting history~ fank009 unvote SuprSilver unvote fank009 Vote not counted: ~fank009 unvote Resident |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 15:56:01 Sorry guys, had an unexpected dinner in amsterdam tonight and had some drinks after that. So couldnt post. Currently in the train back home. I'll be around for another hour or two. When i get home i guess. Anyway i just took a look at the votecounts and i think we're going to blunder today suprsilver or goose???? Really??? Yes, another day where everybody just goes by the general opinion because they're scared to get lynched. I fucking hate the " we need to lynch X because it will tell us something about Y strategy" maybe we should start lynching mafia??? Now we're going to lynch a pretty much confirmed townie. Mafia will just laugh at us behind their computer. Fucking ridiculous. We're not going to find out anything about the people that defended or attacked him because several of them are townie and don't know for sure. It's not like defending a townie will make you town or vice versa. Next up: me reading the last 3 pages |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 15:57:59 Sword, I think 1 cop is already dead. Camster. Town female intuition(or however that's spelled). Sounds pretty much cop-like to me, can't think of any other power role that would be named like that. Of course that's just a guess, dunno what you think about it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 15:58:18 7567606B6C63766D703336020 wrote:
Does anyone else agree with this? Why would he vote someone he scanned and came up innocent? That makes 0% sense, probably even a negative percent. I'm really looking forward to see how he tries to talk his way out of that. ~Goose's voting history~ fank009 unvote SuprSilver unvote fank009 Vote not counted: ~fank009 unvote Resident [/quote] I had a vote on Suprsilver at that point; he was my first vote of the day. I was pressuring Goose as to why we should not vote him off, and he went off the deep end: unvoting, then voting Suprsilver, then he sent the thread into chaos, and now he's claimed cop. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 15:59:03 I lied I'm not the seer I just wanted to see how people would react to me claiming seer. I'm a vanilla townie. I need to clear this up because claiming seer as a non-seer townie is the worst play possible. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 15:59:22 Web: townies dont know for sure, thats why they could change their opinion. You as mafia know all, that's why you attack townies as being "confusing" or " mind changing" and never change your opinion |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 16:00:59 6E46465A4C1B290 wrote:
Wow Goose, you're a phucking genius (clap). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 16:01:49 [smiley=chairshot.gif] [smiley=chairshot.gif] Weren't you talking about clearing up the confusion in the game? That sure cleared up a lot. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 16:01:56 So then your Supr defense is purely based on what you think rather than what you know? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 16:02:13 Zwiebel, sounds more like the prostitute role to me. http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Prostitute Prostitute redirects to roleblocker. Cam would choose someone to sleep with that night, and whatever action they performed that night wouldn't work or go through. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:02:27 5240474C4B44514A571411250 wrote:
Why was it a good idea to "claim" as seer then, I don't understand that logic. You basically are killing yourself off to save a noob townie? That makes no sense to me.[/quote] This reaction is insanely townie. Web = CLEARED |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 16:03:20 516E77776C727D6B180 wrote:
What I meant is he said he scanned SuprSilver calling him innocent, yet voted him after he apparently already knew he was innocent. Cops shouldn't vote people they have as innocents. Either Goose was trolling, or realized I totally caught him and needed to say that. EDIT - or apparently a reaction test option. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:03:35 62070607360 wrote:
There is such thing called an Insane Cop, where you get the inverse of what the person actually is. Brett scanned me and I came back mafia when I was actually doctor in Ivootjes' game. I see what you mean via the above but that would mean we're only keeping him alive for the sake of townie count. Do you agree that as a player he's one of the least helpful currently? And why scan Tim tonight? Why not scan someone who actually has little to no clarity, like TvL or KoopZ? Not sure quite what to do here. There is the possibility you're lying too, but I'm not too sure.[/quote] This reaction on the other hand is well thought out and seems to be carefully crafted to not raise too much attention while trying to fit in. SOMEWHAT SUSPICIOUS. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:04:24 53595A594759200 wrote:
YES (although I know human psychology and I find it super hard to believe that SuprSilver can make the post about Honko revealing his role as a mafia) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:07:46 Zwiebel's reaction was also extremely townie and I've though he's a townie the whole way through, so he's pretty clear. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 16:08:06 735B5B475106340 wrote:
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Congratulations. You've accomplished so much. I had a feeling you were pulling my dick. Or you're double bluffing. Unbelieveable. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:10:32 there's also the possibility that I claimed seer so that the mafia nightkill me instead of the real seer. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 16:11:00 Town Leanz Scott Zwiebel MVT The Webinator Darius Maf Leanz Goose being town=padz+Nstride being town for the time being Useless as fank RDBU SS Zarkov Goose- You have dug yourself a grave now... Would you like my shovel. its great for digging extra large pits. :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 16:12:32 4B63637F693E0C0 wrote:
There is such thing called an Insane Cop, where you get the inverse of what the person actually is. Brett scanned me and I came back mafia when I was actually doctor in Ivootjes' game. I see what you mean via the above but that would mean we're only keeping him alive for the sake of townie count. Do you agree that as a player he's one of the least helpful currently? And why scan Tim tonight? Why not scan someone who actually has little to no clarity, like TvL or KoopZ? Not sure quite what to do here. There is the possibility you're lying too, but I'm not too sure.[/quote] This reaction on the other hand is well thought out and seems to be carefully crafted to not raise too much attention while trying to fit in. SOMEWHAT SUSPICIOUS.[/quote] Are you kidding? You're basing on who is town based on reactions to your claim? Just like how you're basing your views on Suprsilver's alliance based on age and how he posted in tone to Honko about the paralyze PM? What a joke. I have a huge instinct you're town but what you're doing here is stupid and doesn't prove anything. Can you please now address my question? Why should we lynch RDBU over Suprsilver? Edited to fix a sentence |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:12:47 IMO these people are townies and we should not lynch them tonight TOWNIES 6. Matt V 7. MVT 8. NStride 13. Suprsilver 15. Tim 17. Web 19. Zwiebel |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:18:16 We should lynch RDBU over SuprSilver BECAUSE... a) RDBU has done nothing all game. His posts are extremely mafiaey at best and he doesn't care to be contributing to the game. SuprSilver is trying.. he's not doing great, but his heart is in the right place. b) You're basing Supr's lynch mostly off the fact he edited a post. As a 12 year old kid, mafia or not, he could easily have made this mistake. As possible as he could be mafia who changed the post to appear less mafia, he could be townie who posted something that he thought would confuse people and tried to change it quickly. c) SuprSilver's reaction to almost being lynched (the "please tell them Honko" post) is impossible to make as mafia for him. This means that SuprSilver has close to 0% chance of being mafia, while RDBU has a higher chance. d) Supr will contribute more to the town than RDBU for the remainder of the game, if both were alive. e) RDBU's posts are super mafiaey all round. His lack of posting is a common technique to skim by for a few days without getting pressured. and unlike Ivo & Cooper, RDBU has not given any excuse as to why he is absent. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Timothy on 03/23/11 at 16:20:22 I need to go soon unfortunately. In case nothing more comes of the situation, I'm voting now. The players active atm I'm liking (bar Fank and Goose) and I hope to phuck something comes good of this situation. Vote: Supr One way or another, he needs to be gone. No I'm not 100% happy with this but it's the best we've got at this moment in time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 16:21:28 Q now... Vote SS so that goose can shut up ??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 16:27:31 0D2525392F784A0 wrote:
RDBU has nothing though, absolutely nothing we can call him on. Seriously, he's said less than 100 words this whole game. I understand he looks horrible this game but in an early day we don't want to lynch him, he's still under huge suspicion, but a SS lynch beats that by a mile. EDIT - also, why Matt V being a townie? He hasn't really said much of anything this whole game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 16:28:49 quite true weber... RDBU does seem better as a night kill but it might be too early to call that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/23/11 at 16:29:18 I'll go to sleep now, only one last thing. I don't think that Super will contribute much more to this game then RDBU. Both are just posting shit when they do, so it's basically the same amount we get from both. So Super still is a better lynch imo. I also agree with Tim that the "tell them I'm handicapped" doesn't really make him Town, since it could easily have been scum telling him what to do. If he comes back Town, I won't regret my vote, since it's the only thing making sense at this situation. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 16:34:31 5A72726E782F1D0 wrote:
Suprsilver has 8 votes currently. RDBU has 2. Not long left in the day. I think there is a possibility both Suprsilver and RBDU are town. I just think lynching Suprsilver would get a huge problem off our chests. I also don't think there is enough support to switch to RDBU. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:41:19 fine, lynch SuprSilver. There seems to be nothing I can do about it but I'm almost certain that we're losing another townie here. theweb - I can't really pinpoint anything without re-reading, but Matt V posted a lot of intelligent ideas and thoughts on the game so far. I also know him IRL so I can soul read him ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 16:42:53 Votals [8] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, Sword, Tim [3] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, (Tim) [2] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), NStride [2] RDBU - Ivo, Goose [1] TvL - RVZ [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 3.25 hours (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:43:00 Quote:
Yes, but I'm Goose. An world class forum troll, expert liar and general ruckus causer. SuprSilver is a 12 year old kid who I have a hard time believe would come up with something so clever. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 16:48:04 town is playing so poor i've got to cry when i see it you guys seem to like RDBU around and vote of a pretty much confirmed townie. Unvote Vote TVL don't get me wrong i still like to have rdbu lynched, but tvl has also given nuts "i'm mafia" hints and he seems to be less liked so lets see whether you guys still want to go by a suprsilver lynch. Just trying to stop a retarded lynch. Basicly, everyone is saying (sworid is saying it in the last post here above) suprsilver is town, but we should get rid of him anyway as he's annoying and he's getting too much attention right now. fuck all the people who don't care about this game, and don't care about town winning :'( Everyone who has read the entire topic carefully knows why we should not llynch suprsilver. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 16:48:32 5D627B7B607E7167140 wrote:
Wish I still had that Navi picture from earlier. GOOSE IS CLEARLY TRYING TO FUCK WITH EVERYONE. He's been doing it the entire game. 15707170410 wrote:
I have had the exact opposite instinct for a long time now. Maybe you haven't seen enough Goose games. Why are people voting for SUPRSILVER? 1B7E7F7E4F0 wrote:
WHAT PROBLEM? Some people made up a "problem" on Day 1 after he made an edit to a post and ever since then no one will let up, no matter what. 4A4043405E40390 wrote:
It's NEVER the best idea to lynch someone that you have a gut feeling is town. 5D627B7B607E7167140 wrote:
Yes. Vote for people like Goose (confusing as hell), TvL, Zarkov, Padz who are doing just as little to help the town as Suprsilver is. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 16:49:30 625D44445F414E582B0 wrote:
THANK YOU IVO. EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING IN MY POST. PLAIN AS DAY. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 16:49:52 What lynch do you think you can push to get enough support in 3 or so hours? SS has 8 votes or something. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:50:20 ugh Ivo if you change your vote back to RDBU, then we only need 3 people to switch their votes. That's definitely possible before EOD tonight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 16:51:00 475552595E51445F420104300 wrote:
Goose or TvL are probably the only two I'd go for right now. Goose being way way higher. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 16:52:30 [8] SuprSilver - KoopZ, Darius Zwiebel, RDBU, MattV, Web, Sword, Tim hmm, how strange, all the inactive players who don't give a fuck about this game voting on suprsilver, i bet at least 3 of these are mafia. Unvote Vote Goose it's true, a goose lynch would still be a lot better than a suprsilver lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:53:13 lol good game I'm a vanilla so at least my lynch prevents the seer or angel from being lynched. Oh well, I did what I could. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 16:55:17 I am starting to see what you mean. But what makes you so much more confident that RDBU is mafia whereas Suprsilver isn't? Is it to do with age? I mean you even said yourself they are acting simular. 6 votes need to be made in 3 hours to get Suprsilver and RBDU tied. If 3 of the Suprsilver voters vote RDBU, it goes into tie breaker. I really have no idea what to think right now. <_< |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 16:56:00 781D1C1D2C0 wrote:
Way closer to get Goose past him, bro. 5-7 after you switch |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 16:56:44 Weber. Its basic maths... We need 6 new votes or 3 to switch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 16:57:27 I'm not mafia SuprSilver is not mafia vote someone else RDBU is the best option I can't believe Scott doesn't see this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 16:58:39 Goose, it's nothing personal, you could be town or mafia, i don't know for sure, you're confusing, but at least you're helping town by posting your opinion on a lot of different thing. I've gotten so sure that a suprsilver lynch would be a waste of a day. But people don't fucking care. I would prefer a tvl or rdbu lynch right now, but more people need to agree on this scott, are you willing to change to tvl to prevent a suprsilver lynch? We're at 4 already if we give it a try. I'm sure more people could agree on this. TVL has already said he doesn't have time and has an extremely mafia feel on him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 17:00:38 Lol @ goose's vanila claim. Almost choked on my food for that one. In all of this confusion at least one thing remains certain: vig please kill fank tonight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:01:09 11747574450 wrote:
sword, you've not read the topic carefully do you? We've basicly seen the mafia plan and understand why he's silenced. We also understand this would be the most retarded plan had mafia planned it this way. Beside SS has given nuts "i'm town and i want to cry right now" hints Do some reading between pages 20-23 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:03:06 Ivo if you change your vote to RDBU, we're 3 changes away from that lynch. if you leave it on Supr, it accomplishes nothing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:04:34 and we don't know rdbu if rdbu is mafia or not, we just know SS is not. rdbu is the worst person to keep around, and has posted nothing except for keeping the attention on fank and ss if he's mafia we should lynch him if he's town we should still lynch him, as he's going to fuck the game up for town just like he did before. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:05:56 goose you fucking dumb idiot how can you still not know my vote hasn't been on ss for ages and i've been defending him. Your memory is below par, i know all people's opinions in this game, maybe you should read more carefully. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:06:36 exactly man Supr has 0% chance of being mafia RDBU at least has like 20% chance |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:07:27 Your vote is on me change it to RDBU bro |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 17:08:17 724D54544F515E483B0 wrote:
Yea, goose claiming seer for a page and few hours really was "helping town". How laughable this is. My maf leans have still not changed from a long time ago. I'm still on my phone so I can't find that post but my leans were nstride, goose, ivo, and silver. Maybe if u didn't stall and waste so many hours faking seer where a lot of people (euros) left for bed then maybe u could have mustered up enough support for a rdbu wagon. Instead you decided to go the route of looking like an idiot and losing all semblance of credibility. That's too bad because now really no one except ur maf buddies will listen to you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:10:28 52636A6A52676A63060 wrote:
I'd be willing to put a few bucks down to say Nstride and Ivo are not mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:10:51 i would say Suprsilver: 5% Goose: 20% RDBU 35% but none is here. @mvt: you're really a clueless townie in this game, but at least you're probably town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:11:27 Ivo change your damn vote to RDBU It gives a better chance of him being lynched than your current vote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 17:12:08 664E4E524413210 wrote:
Haha. Tick tock tick tock...the day is nearly done and your time is running out. Better put out the alarm and put your little coalition into mad scramble mode! ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 17:13:49 Oh ya and I'm not changing my vote forgot to mention that... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:15:56 the only thing i agree with mvt's post is that goose seer claim was terrible http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Lynch_All_Liars i generally go by this. @goose: if i change to rdbu he would be at 2 votes, me and you, if you change to tvl he's at 3 as soon as i switch. And everyone agrees tvl has been inactive and had a forced feel to his post -> mafia |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Suprsilver on 03/23/11 at 17:16:58 4B746D6D76686771020 wrote:
Not related at all, but you go to MS? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:18:31 fine unvote vote: TvL SuprSilver, we NEED you to vote for TvL right now. It's the only chance of you being saved. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:18:45 i don't play there, but they usually have some interesting games going on there and their wiki is great. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:19:21 btw I agree my 'seer claim' was terrible, but I didn't really 'lie' in the classic sense of the word because I came out with the truth about 40 minutes later. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:19:45 Unvote Vote TVL i'm fine with this vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 17:21:26 Important! Why would Goose switch his claim from seer to vanilla townie? A: The next day he knows all the kills will likely go through, and it will be apparent that he was lying! Goose has probably been bussing off Silver all day. Also, Goose's posting has been utterly chaotic and plain deceitful all over the place. THIS IS NOT TOWN LIKE BEHAVIOR. If it turns up Goose is town, terrible, terribly played! Unvote Vote: GOOSE Get your votes off Suprsilver guys [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:21:33 goose, suprsilver can't vote because he's been silenced by the mafia. the same mafia is lynching him now ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:21:49 oh shit I forgot Supr is handicapped and can't vote TvL |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 17:22:26 If Goose turns up Maf I'm fucked but I don't give a fuck. VOTE GOOSE |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:23:12 NStride, I was pissed off that people weren't removing their votes from an almost 100% townie so I made something up to throw a wrench and GET PEOPLE TO REMOVE THEIR VOTES WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW? PEOPLE ARE REMOVING THEIR VOTES I SUCCEEDED PEOPLE ARE REMOVING THEIR VOTES FROM SOMEONE WHO IS A LIKELY TOWNIE I DID SOMETHING PRO-TOWN, IT WAS GOOD FOR US IN THE END VOTE FOR TVL |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:23:33 goose, you know i would prefer a rdbu or tvl lynch over you, but if that is not going to work out i'll switch back to you because i HATE the ss lynch. And i would just dislike your lynch a little bit because you could be mafia or not. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:26:03 i agree that goose did something that's good for town, that's why my vote is on tvl, who didn't do anything good for town |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 17:27:13 1A20073B322712143C3C37073B3A3D34530 wrote:
WHAT PROBLEM? Some people made up a "problem" on Day 1 after he made an edit to a post and ever since then no one will let up, no matter what.[/quote] Iirc you were the one that first pointed out that silver edited that post and started the whole shit storm towards him |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:28:29 GOOSE VOTERS ASK YOURSELF THIS WOULD I EVER AS A MAFIA FAKE SEER CLAIM AND THEN SAY I WAS LYING WOULD I EVER DO IT |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 17:29:24 Votals [8] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, Sword, Tim [4] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, (Tim), (Ivo), NStride [3] TvL - RVZ, (Ivo), Goose, Ivo [1] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), (NStride) [0] RDBU - (Ivo), (Goose) [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 2.5 hours (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 17:30:38 6E514848534D4254270 wrote:
Oh? You know Suprsilver really IS town for sure? Sounds like you don't want to put your vote on your teammate. I already explained where Goose fucked up, I don't CARE how much he's "helped" the town. Makes a maf look real good, no? He screwed up badly by claiming doctor, because it took him a bit to realize it too, but his ploy would be revealed come night kill results! The doctor would almost without a doubt shield Goose Vig kill + Mafia Kill and Goose wouldn't be in it. It wouldn't match up! GOOSE IS MAF. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:31:23 5F53534C4F48594E3C0 wrote:
You're quite wrong. Stop fucking up the game thread by lying and being uninformed. Meanwhile, vote Goose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 17:31:37 133B3B273166540 wrote:
Yes you would, so you could say this! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:31:47 you're a complete idiot if you think that I honestly claimed seer and didn't expect to get "found out" the next morning |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:33:08 I've played 50ish mafia games fact 1 of playing is that when someone claims seer you vote who they claim if that person is not what they claim... THEYRE A WOLF AND THEY WILL BE FOUND OUT THE NEXT MORNING This FACT is as instinctual as pressing A to go in Mario Kart. It's not something I wouuld ever OVERLOOK. I essentially TROLLED THE THREAD BECUASE IT WAS THE ONLY WAY YOUD EVER REMOVE YOUR VOTES FROM SUPRSILVER YOU GUYS CANT BE THIS DUMB |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:33:24 Sword, Ivo, Koopz all switching to Goose gives him the lead. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:34:16 614949554314260 wrote:
This is all you've been doing the entire game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 17:34:16 1B33332F396E5C0 wrote:
No, you made that mistake, which is why you said you lied and are nilla town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:34:33 so? nstride's being a townie, looking for clues. it's not him who's lynching him now, it's not him who's keeping the pressure on him. It's him who found something suspicious during day 1 It's people like you koopz that keep on the pressure never changing your mind, you're one of the following 1. Mafia 2. I-do-not-give-a-shit-about-this-game-and-do-not-read-carefully-town Do you even know why we do not want to lynch him cooper? Did you really read the discussion? There's some people who at least commented on it (well actually only darius did, he's the only one i somewhat respect for his SS vote as he commented on everything that was going on) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:35:00 323D372A393F263D3736363D530 wrote:
Rofl @ me making mistakes in mafia games |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 17:35:57 567E7E627423110 wrote:
Ur tone comes off almost as if you can't wait to brag about how you got away with it. For the ppl voting tvl. He attacked me and I still would not consider voting him off. It would be a complete waste of time and would tell us nothing. A goose lynch would be the far superior option. Goose is a pretty manipulative guy so don't let him tell you otherwise or make you flip in the heat of the moment. In fact if tvl becomes a legitimate possibility and people start wagonning him I will switch my vot over to suprsilver just to ensure that tvl doesn't die. (Ya I just said I wouldn't change my vote a post ago but I will only to save tvl and I don't even think that wagon will come anywhere close to working anyways) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:36:04 6F504949524C4355260 wrote:
Love this post. 18220539302510163E3E350539383F36510 wrote:
Let's do it. 07363F3F07323F36530 wrote:
<3 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:36:04 my last post was at koopz because he has not been reading the topic and that disappoints me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 17:36:05 0E312828332D2234470 wrote:
sword, you've not read the topic carefully do you? We've basicly seen the mafia plan and understand why he's silenced. We also understand this would be the most retarded plan had mafia planned it this way. Beside SS has given nuts "i'm town and i want to cry right now" hints Do some reading between pages 20-23[/quote] I've read it. Just because I've read it, doesn't mean I have to believe it, do I? I hate how you think you know everything. It really is just something else. How can you assume you know the mafia plan? What if you're wrong? What if he is lying? I might be willing to switch. I still think this could end up very badly though ... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:37:21 well, thanks for your reaction sword! that's two people who read that page, you and darius. Next is koopz, i've called him out already. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:40:48 sword i'm asking you you truly believe that mafia handicapped SS and now SS gets voted of because he's been handicapped by his own team? or do you think that "admin handicapper" is not a mafia role. And what kind of role do you think it is then? serial killer? second mafia faction? Or do you think that the "admin handicapper" did not even handicap someone at all? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:41:47 Okay lynch me I'm a vanilla townie The best way to learn from my lynch will be looking at the people who -ignored my case on SuprSilver being a mafia. -didn't react at first to my seer claim despite being present. -when fank is dead, if he's a villager too, look at people who ignored that interaction For the record, when I'm dead I think you should look at Cooper and Padz in particular. RDBU of course. Sword, TVL and Zarkov, maybe. My town list again TOWNIES 6. Matt V 7. MVT 8. NStride 13. Suprsilver 15. Tim 17. Web 19. Zwiebel I'm pretty sure these guys are all reasonably town. The reason I'm ok with my lynch is because if I rush a lynch onto someone else they could be seer/angel/whatever and that would be bad. I'm vanilla so I'm a better lynch than them. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:46:46 wait i'll change it, give me your opinions on the following stuff 1: do you believe that mafia handicapped SS? 2: do you think that SS is part of the mafia? 3: do you think that admin handicapper is a totally different role, and we're wrong about the assumption it removes someones vote? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 17:48:59 and last question, if you think handicapper is a different role, than what does it, and possibly to who? (basicly, saying SS made all this stuff up himself) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 17:49:17 774851514A545B4D3E0 wrote:
Lol, wow. So I check back to the first post of Day 2 to see it does say Admin Handicapper. Honestly never saw the handicapper part before. I could have SWORN that wasn't there before. :-/ Fail on my part. What if Tyler never handicapped anyone though? What if Suprsilver saw that as a mafia member and saw that as a perfect excuse to try and live another day? How the fuck do we know whether the ADMIN is the same as MAFIA? If they were the same then it'd clear his name completely. But I'm not fully convinced. But looking over that it does make it alot more fesible. I'll unvote for now. Unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:50:35 Not sure if that was directed at me, but I'll give my best shot anyway, Ivo. 1: I believe that Sportsguy ADMIN Handicapper handicapped SS. He's just too honest in his appeals and posts to be making it up. 2: My gut says no, just for what I've said above. He's 12 years old, tries his best the whole game and people attack him for no reason. It seems to me that he's probably not in the mafia. Wouldn't they do something like tell him to completely stop posting, if they see he is in trouble already and since he's 12 he would give away a potential lead? 3: Well I had no idea Handicapper meant a real role when it was first revealed, I thought it was just "what penev does" so I was in the dark. Once people brought up the fact that handicapper is a real role and SS posted saying he couldn't vote, I realized he likely was the role we associate with "handicapper" and this is where I still stand. 7D425B5B405E5147340 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:52:34 37525352630 wrote:
We don't, until we nab another good suspect. It really doesn't matter though, either way my answers about SS hold up. Trying to build reasoning for the use of such a role is hard. I think it's probably mostly out of the "well we/I have this role so we/I may as well use it" and using it on SS seems a fair enough choice. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 17:54:16 1: I believe that SuprSilver has been handicapped. I don't think he could come up with this on his own, and his slow reaction (it took 3-4 posts for him to realize it and say something like "oh, I can't post, Honko said") seems very believable. It's hard for me to believe that a 12 year old kid could be faking as well has he had for 2 days now without slipping up. 2: It is *possible* I've seen it before where mafia handicaps their own. It's a smart play, but I'm not sure the mafia possibilities here are smart enough for it. 3: No. Admin handicapper sounds like a role where it would remove someone from voting. It's a not-too powerful role that makes sense given the size of this game. EXTRA: I DO think it's possible that Admin/Mafia are different groups. I DO think that it is at least REMOTELY POSSIBLE that in this case, there is a MAFIA handicapper who handicapped Supr. Supr could be on the ADMIN team in this case, he could be on teh MAFIA team as in question 2, or he could be a villager. Also, sportsguy ADMIN handicapper could have handicapped Supr as a mafia/admin/villager as well. I think it is only REMOTELY likely that there is still a mafia or village handicapper out there, because having 2-3 handicappers on a game of 22 people seems excessive. IT IS POSSIBLE though.. I think there is a 0% chance SuprSilver made this up himself. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by thewebinator on 03/23/11 at 17:56:21 I'm sorry that I can't read more, since it's 10PM and I have a bunch of tests to study for, but I can't find a reason for me to unvote SS as opposed to TvL, who seems equally useless to me. Also, there are only a few hours left, and it's 8-3 last votecount. Most likely scenario for me would be to unvote, but that's stupid so I'm sticking with SS for the end of the day. ' It tells me a lot about various members of the town that I don't think TvL could tell us. Has TvL said any leans other than general fluff and repeat statements? I don't think so. I'm a little sus on Goose now for being ridiculously erratic, but I can't get a read on him yet, and I"m guessing it's because I"m really tired and can't think straight. Good night. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 17:57:14 112E37372C323D2B580 wrote:
Thats the problem. All 3 of these are possible. Therefore saying Suprsilver is 100% town because he claims he can't vote doesn't mean anything to me. Tyler perfectly well may have decided not to "handicap" anyone. Or handicap might not even do what Suprsilver claims it has done to him, that is also a possibility. 1. Possible but least likely (if hes Maf). Would be too risky so I doubt it very much. If he's town, likely. 2. Possible if either a) he lied about being handicapped or b) ADMIN =/= Mafia. 3. Also possible. But I guess he isn't the best lynch to go for today afterall. I guess I'm just annoyed that he's been acting very uncooperative lately. Seeing the "handicapper" part changes everything. Everything Goose says about him being honest because he's not smart enough to conjure it up on his own makes sense to me now. So the options are Goose, RDBU and TvL? I'll be here for EOD more than likely so I'll think some more about it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 17:58:18 263433383F30253E236065510 wrote:
Please vote Goose. Only two votes puts him in the lead or tied with SS at this point. You say you're suspicious of him, go with it. Why vote for the stupid choice of SS? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 17:59:41 Wait, is everyone voting Goose solely because he lied about the cop claim? Or am I missing something. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:00:08 Voting for Goose is akin to clubbing baby seals. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 18:00:36 44212021100 wrote:
Well, if they have a handicapper, which seems very plausible to me as a handicapper happened to die tonight, they could have gone for two plans Handicap one of their own Handicap a townie I "know" the mafia plan as handicapping one of your own is really dumb to do as mafia, handicapping the most inexperienced townie is smart, look what is happening to him now. Man, i've gone over this plenty of times now, but i can't seem to stop people. At least i'll have a good laugh when SS turns over mafia, although i simply can't believe that right now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:00:57 46232223120 wrote:
They're voting me partly because I lied for 40 minutes to lead the wagon off of SuprSilver. And partly because they can't handle my attitude. They are not voting me for any reason that would actually make me a mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:01:58 00656465540 wrote:
NOT AT ALL. I've had my Goosedar flashing all day. I've been asking people about Goose all of Day 2. Go back and check it out if you don't believe me. MVT voted Goose before that incident as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 18:04:57 sword i'm not saying SS is 100% town it's a lot less likely, we'll go by chances here, as town you're never sure. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 18:05:03 Votals [7] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, (Sword), Tim [4] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, (Tim), (Ivo), NStride [3] TvL - RVZ, (Ivo), Goose, Ivo [1] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), (NStride) [0] RDBU - (Ivo), (Goose) [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 2 hours (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:05:39 In the case of MVT and Scott, they're only weary of me because they're intelligent enough to realize that I am capable of anything in this game. My biggest vice in mafia games is being too good. I can never be cleared as a townie, because I'm always good enough as mafia to pull it off. They're weary of my in the same way that, if you were playing the LA Lakers, you'd be watching out for Kobe Bryant. He can always burn you no matter what. Their suspicion of me has nothing to do with this game in particular. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:06:11 7850504C5A0D3F0 wrote:
Yeah that's what I thought too. I think people are taking his charade a little too seriously. I honestly think a Goose lynch isn't much better than a Suprsilver lynch at this current point. He may be manipulative and downright absurd at times but I don't think that warrants a lynch really. Still an hour left so I'm thinking about it. I honestly have been skeptical of TvL, since I too expected quite alot more on his part. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:10:25 Quote:
This is the first spot where I was feeling overly confident in Goose being mafia, based on the quote I pasted in that set of lines. Here is Goose's favorite thing to do as mafia: SAY THINGS THAT ARE TRUE WITH THE IMPLICATION THAT THEY ARE NOT. He loves being ironic. He loves laughing at the things he says because townies don't understand how much he is trolling them. He has been doing this all game. He knows that he can do ANYTHING and just say it's trolling and recover from it just like that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:14:02 If that's the case then you're basing your vote off my personality rather than my ingame actions. I entreat you to think again. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 18:14:03 i don't think we're going to get much activity today anymore :( Maybe that Mattv or Koopz is still going to change votes from SS? mvt, scott and nstride, you're not going to chance your votes aren't you? You're basicly the 3 guys i'm most confident of being town in this game. And i personally would prefer a TvL lynch. How do you guys look upon this? If you stay on goose i could still change, but imo tvl lynch > goose lynch |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 18:14:40 57323332030 wrote:
Yeah that's what I thought too. I think people are taking his charade a little too seriously. I honestly think a Goose lynch isn't much better than a Suprsilver lynch at this current point. He may be manipulative and downright absurd at times but I don't think that warrants a lynch really. Still an hour left so I'm thinking about it. I honestly have been skeptical of TvL, since I too expected quite alot more on his part. :-/[/quote] Tvl is not getting lynched. I can assure you of that so you might as well forget about that. I will switch my vote to silver if necessary to save tvl. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:15:16 457F58646D784D4B636368586465626B0C0 wrote:
Goose also loves attacking scummates early on. I didn't notice it in real time but that doesn't mean it's not there. He does it in every game where he's mafia.[/quote] This is an interesting point. I've noticed that Goose throws alot of his scummates under the bus when in need to win. Could give us a hell of alot of leads if he does flip maf. 78426559504570765E5E556559585F56310 wrote:
More aggressive is usually a town trait, since wolves tend to hide back (at least in these games). Goose has been suspicious of you since very early. At the top part of Page 2 he made a post listing you and Cam as mafia suspects. Why?[/quote] Here you say that his aggression is more likely to be a town trait over anything. I don't think you were skeptical of him at this point, but it is true. This is why MVT is so blatantly town in every game he plays. 102A0D31382D181E36363D0D3130373E590 wrote:
You randomly flipped after he proposed that noone bar the inactives speak. Albeit a weird idea, I don't think it warranted a vote. After this all the other posts from you are just "Goose is trolling, vote Goose" Goose trolls every game he's in regardless of what side he's on. I remember the game where he used size 40 font in bold red writing when explaining the theory with the 3 doors and whether you choose to switch after eliminating a door or some shit. It's just in his character. If you think this is a threatening being to keep around then that's down to you. I don't quite feel the same that you do currently. Could you explain why Goose is obviously scum other than the fact that he is trolling? I'm curious. Edited to remove the bold from unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 18:16:46 That also answers your question ivo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:16:49 1E213838233D3224570 wrote:
I'm sticking to Goose. Ivo, you and Nstride are also the highest Town ratings on my mental list. Glad to see we're on the same page. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:17:32 4B7A73734B7E737A1F0 wrote:
Something you're not sharing, MVT? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:21:02 6E0B0A0B3A0 wrote:
More aggressive is usually a town trait, since wolves tend to hide back (at least in these games). Goose has been suspicious of you since very early. At the top part of Page 2 he made a post listing you and Cam as mafia suspects. Why?[/quote] Here you say that his aggression is more likely to be a town trait over anything. I don't think you were skeptical of him at this point, but it is true. This is why MVT is so blatantly town in every game he plays. ... After this all the other posts from you are just "Goose is trolling, vote Goose" Goose trolls every game he's in regardless of what side he's on. I remember the game where he used size 40 font in bold red writing when explaining the theory with the 3 doors and whether you choose to switch after eliminating a door or some shit. It's just in his character. If you think this is a threatening being to keep around then that's down to you. I don't quite feel the same that you do currently. Could you explain why Goose is obviously scum other than the fact that he is trolling? I'm curious[/quote] Okay, as you see from the timestamps I was already QUITE strongly focused on Goose when I made that Fank post you quoted there. I had a Fank/Goose combo thought running strong at that time and wanted Fank to talk about Goose, in hopes he'd slip up. Of course he just fanked it all up so whatever. In response to the rest, Goose IS threatening. I was quite offended when he (as I expected) COMPLETELY TOOK OVER THE THREAD last night when I was trying a method to get the inactive players to post more. Instead of letting the focus fall on them, Goose takes the spotlight and runs with it. He's suddenly got way more posts than anyone else today. He's trying to keep us from looking at the inactives (WHO HE LISTS IN HIS POST "IF I DIE LOOK AT THESE") and also saying that we need to look at them. Everything about him is a disaster and takes away any chance at coherent thought in the game. If you think Fank can derail a thread, think again. Goose is the boss of that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:22:21 03666766570 wrote:
I certainly did NOT randomly flip. As I've just explained I've been strong on Goose's case (keeping the in-thread version somewhat toned down, to not draw too much attention on myself) for over 24 hours. And it's not really "flipping" because my previous vote was on MattV from the early hours of the Day 2. By that point Matt had posted quite a few times and he seemed to be trying to contribute. I just hadn't unvoted because I don't like messing around with all that voting stuff for no reason. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 18:24:02 what did you like about tvl's post mvt? You don't agree he's playing weak thusfar? (and making up a lot of excuses for not posting) Unvote Vote Goose I need to go to bed. A goose lynch it is imo. Nice catches scott and at least he won't lie anymore if he dies. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 18:26:13 I think the case on TvL is moot at this point. I would at least like to see a rally and buy more time by tying up the votes. :-/ Here's TvL's most recent posts: http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=usersrecentposts;username=516D6A6864765A7349050 The guy strikes me as how I played to a large extent when I was town doctor first game. I want to see him contribute more tomorrow, but to be honest I think TvL is actually more worthy of an angel move than a lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:26:41 Okay, so he's a nuisance, but how does that make him afflicted to mafia? He could just be a town nuisance. I agree he is a bit of a control freak, and he can derail the thread, but heck, fank has done alot of nonsense posting and we've been able to carry on fine. I am intriguied to hear MVTs refusal to vote for TvL and his perserverance to save him if he ever becomes close to the chopping block. I recall MVT pointed out that TvL suspected him at some point but that's all I remember. Reading over that it makes me feel that you don't even know whether he's mafia or town, you just want him gone because he's dangerous. This is the exact same reasoning I had for Suprsilver (didn't really care what side he was on, just wanted him out due to being un-cooperative and overall unhelpful) and I got burned for it. What's everyones stance on a RDBU lynch? Or must it be Suprsilver / Goose? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 18:30:41 Okay I think I panicked there for a second, but we're still short on time. We have an hour and a half. To answer your question Sword, I don't see how any other combination is possible at this point. Too many inactives. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:30:41 333C362B383E273C3637373C520 wrote:
It's unquestionable that he's playing like he's walking over broken glass currently. This obviously leads in 2 directions. Hes a town power trying to hang low under radar, or he's mafia trying ever so carefully to be cautious and not slip up. I do believe his post about not wanting to devote that much time to the game though. That is a neutral point from my perspective. To be fair there wouldn't even be 30 pages if Goose and fank controlled themselves slightly better :P I'm interested in MVTs point of view though, I do recall a post from MVT directed at TvL, I'll go get it now |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 18:31:32 sword, there's not enough momentum for rdbu, i'm all for it, but getting more then 7 people together to pass SS? not happening. TVL won't happen as well as with mvt's vote for SS we can't pass 8 for sure It's goose or SS now i guess. I've tried other people for over a day but i can't get the momentum going, and i'll go by some people i somewhat trust. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:33:47 6051585860555851340 wrote:
Seems MVT is going based on the fact that if he cared more about the game that makes him more likely to be scum. I sort of understand but I'd prefer it if MVT explained on this a little more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:33:58 477861617A646B7D0E0 wrote:
Ivo you've felt the same way for a long time as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:34:15 unvote Vote: Resident Dry Bones User Hail Mary |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:37:01 If you don't want me in the game because you don't like my personality, I get that. But would you really rather play with guys like fank and RDBU instead? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 18:37:40 going to sleep now let's beg for goose to be scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:38:11 Nothing against your personality. Just your posts, bub. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:38:22 010E04190A0C150E0405050E600 wrote:
But that's the thing though. If Goose is town then he is very valuable. I would be very pissed if we axed him and found out that he was town. It would give us information but I don't think Goose is the right lynch for today. I understand why so many people are for it but I would suggest to give it one more day to see how things pan out. I think a RDBU lynch is possible with an extreme cojoined effort. There's still over an hour left so it might be possible. I know I wasn't really for it before but the recent news about Suprsilver has changed my mind quite a bit. Might as well go for a potential mafia member / useless inactive over a 90% likely townie that isn't as useless. Vote: Resident Dry Bones User |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Ivootjes on 03/23/11 at 18:38:23 goose, your personality has nothing to do with it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:39:12 Lol Ivo, this is incredible. We're totally hiveminding tonight. EPIC. Sword cut it out and join us. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:39:28 Ivo throw your vote on RDBU before bed thx and I <3 you [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:40:24 Ivo, Sword is probably just protecting scummate Goose if he really won't switch. By voting RBDU he's basically trying to make sure SS or RB is lynched instead of Goose, and he can't vote SS since that looks silly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 18:40:36 Scott, can you list who all is viewing the thread? If Sword gets a vote on Goose, we're still 7 Silver 6 Goose I think. [smiley=chairshot.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:41:41 Case on Goose: we don't like his attitude and the way he tries to control the game Case on Supr: we misinterpreted his actions but that's cleared up now Case on RDBU: he hasn't posted much, has been in hiding all game, the stuff he has said has been fluffy and contentless at best, he's not contributing and is of no value to the town Make your pick! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:41:49 Members viewing this topic (8): Goose (replying), Ivootjes, S[ch969][ch959]rd, IsThatAGoodTime, fank009, NStride, MVT, J-Cop. Still plenty of time left too, over an hour. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:43:54 153D3D213760520 wrote:
Would Goose post this if he was mafia? Just completely throw in the towel to save someone like Suprsilver? Honestly? Besides even if I did vote Goose, Suprsilver is still leading in votes. Unless Goose tells MattV to get on to vote, but I doubt that'll happen. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:44:41 Still have Web...that makes 7. Others can still come online as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 18:44:51 43262726170 wrote:
I'm not changing my vote. Modified to remove bold. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 18:48:04 Unedit the bold out of my quote 152F08343D281D1B333338083435323B5C0 wrote:
Of course voting Suprsilver is silly, I'm more than likely convinced he's town now. But I also feel Goose is town aswell. I'd much rather have RDBU die. But I guess that's not happening. And of course! Just because Goose is much more useful if he is town and I want him alive based on that over Suprsilver, who even though is most likely town, hasn't helped us get anywhere and has wasted 2 hours of my time rereading the case about him, that makes me obv scum protecting scumbuddy! Good work Scott! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 18:51:55 It has been fun watching you squirm goose. Real fun. I honestly cant stop smiling... The same trick you pulled on me pulled on yourself... how ironic. But we all know my thoughts about you for the meantime... Right now you are trolling so... it leads me to believe you are Scum... or you are town and have lost hope for them to win. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:52:32 Fank, what are the chances RDBU will post in the next hour to save his skin and send Goose to the grave? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 18:54:28 7C7B74712A2A231A0 wrote:
What trick are you talking about here? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:54:43 Do you really think I would have done, what I did, if I were mafia. I would have; -had the foresight to handicap Supr to either; a) set up an easy mislynch (if he were town) or b) make it look like the mafia handicapped him to set up his mislynch (if he were mafia) then -spent a whole day getting people to remove him from their voting list -sacrificed myself for him -to set him up for what? To go on and lead the mafia team to victory? Like what are you people thinking? Seriously? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 18:56:30 I haven't given up. I'm TOWN. I don't even know how you guys think I'm mafia at this point. You still can't name a SINGLE THING IVE DONE that was mafia-like. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 18:56:31 7951514D5B0C3E0 wrote:
Nice insurance policy to not let us know which side he's on when you are lynched. [smiley=beer.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 18:57:47 Sword besides the fact that there isn't enough support for a tvl or rdbu lynch at this very late stage, killing either of them would give us very little info or leads compared to goose and supr |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 18:58:10 537B7B677126140 wrote:
You really want me to start. You really want me to go there... How back do you want me to go... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 18:59:31 4748425F4C4A534842434348260 wrote:
What trick are you talking about here? [/quote] At the very start... Page 1+2... shouldnt be hard too miss. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:01:20 6C5D54546C59545D380 wrote:
Are you saying here you don't mind whether Suprsilver / Goose gets the block? I know your vote is on Goose but the fact that you mentioned the option of Supr suggests the fact that you don't mind it as a possibility. Unvote Guess that ain't happening then. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 19:05:20 unvote vote: SuprSilver :'( :'( :'( :'( Sword has to be close to 100% town because there's no way a mafia member would try to defend me at this point instead of putting the food on my throat. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 19:13:09 Votals [8] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, (Sword), Tim, Goose [5] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, (Tim), (Ivo), NStride, Ivo [1] TvL - RVZ, (Ivo), (Goose), (Ivo) [1] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), (NStride) [0] RDBU - (Ivo), (Goose), (Goose), (Sword) [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 45 minutes (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:13:59 I believe they are both town, personally. I would much rather Suprsilver take the bullet over Goose. It's not like we can't find out what side Goose is on later. If Goose is on town then I'd rather you fucking take me out over him. 7077787D26262F160 wrote:
You really want me to start. You really want me to go there... How back do you want me to go... [/quote] Well, we've got 45 minutes. I'm up for a good read. Do go on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:15:00 Dirty top of the page glitch ¬¬ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:28:27 143C3C203661530 wrote:
Ahahahaahahahahaha AEAHUEAHUHEUAHUEHAHEAHAEUHEAUHEUAEHAHAUHEAHEAHEAUEUAHUEAHUEA fank he's not being serious you know. It's one of the first few posts to start the day and it's on page 2, aka, when only 6 or 7 people knew it started. What he said about the list thing and game mechanics is true though. Bearing in mind it was within the first few pages in the game I think it's safe to say he was messing about. Do you just want him dead because of his attitude? Am I the only one who wants Goose alive at this point? I'd love to know. If Goose flips mafia then I admit I'm playing an absolutely horrible game. I just don't honestly see him go to that extent to save an unhelpful townie if it advocated his lynch as a mafia player. Especially on Day 2. Come on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 19:30:34 Sword I've thought for quite some time that both goose and supr are maf. Either one dying wouldn't really bother me. Right now I'd preffer the goose lynch though because we learn a bit more and goose is a lot more dangerous player. No matter what his role, supr is less of a threat. If goose is maf, and I believe him to be, this is our best chance to kill the guy. In later days he will be even more manipulative and harder to get a majority vote. Him voting supr just now realy shows just how contradictory and pathetic he is playing. He really really overates himself as a player. If he truly is a vanilla town and is so certain that supr is town then he would do the right thing and let himself die considering supr would be likely to have a more valuable town role than vanilla. That's why I think he is lying and is maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 19:32:06 good point unvote vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:32:15 5B6A63635B6E636A0F0 wrote:
Exactly what I thought when Goose voted SS just a bit ago. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:33:17 7B50574B56390 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 19:34:46 rofl I guess I'm modkilled then gg retards |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 19:34:53 25 minutes left. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 19:35:42 527A7A667027150 wrote:
I think its a bit late now. You shoudlnt have needed me to point that out to you. It should have came naturally if u were a townie. Now that was really ur only move to attempt to look innocent and it doesn't change the fact that u were originally willing to leave the vote on silver before I said anything. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:36:27 7951514D5B0C3E0 wrote:
Votes on yourself don't count. Suprsilver has 7 again, Goose has 5. Even if I do vote for Goose, which I'm uncertain of doing, he still isn't in the lead of votes. And Goose is all over the place right now. He has gone from supporting his own lynch to outright objecting it, thus voting for RDBU and Suprsilver in the process. But this is in his character - I just don't see it as something that stands out and yells SCUM. Not long left but I will be here at EOD. Not a lot of replies going on lately so not much hope. Part of me wants to vote Goose just to know if I was getting played all along. I honestly have a huge hunch that he's town. But I completely understand the reason of getting rid of him. This is beyond irritating. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:37:23 If Goose still alive tomorrow all he has to do is say: "If I was mafia why in the world would I do that!!!????" But in reality he is safe in doing it if he doesn't get modkilled because unless SWORD (buddy?????) votes for him right now, since it appears no one else is going to come online. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 19:37:32 6E0B0A0B3A0 wrote:
You really want me to start. You really want me to go there... How back do you want me to go... [/quote] Well, we've got 45 minutes. I'm up for a good read. Do go on.[/quote] ok just for you... Why Goose can be maf... From the past two days (game time...) Just his opinion against me... (imo) the more i tried to become like you guys in terms of playing skill The more threatened he became... And the more he wanted me gone... Nothing wrong with that... but he was posting vote fank or else cause he is maf... against the town which concluded i was playing stupid town... Reason b) The famous I town speech to start us off. Going from personal experience... town member used the bluff function and was town... Bluffing gets you nowhere (look where i am :P) Reason c) jumped off me and caught on to the J-cop Bandwagon. Next day right back at it... (and again today but not that majorly scumish) Reason d) 6F7D7A7176796C776A292C180 wrote:
Does anyone else agree with this? Why would he vote someone he scanned and came up innocent? That makes 0% sense, probably even a negative percent. I'm really looking forward to see how he tries to talk his way out of that. ~Goose's voting history~ fank009 unvote SuprSilver unvote fank009 Vote not counted: ~fank009 unvote Resident [/quote] Reason e 7951514D5B0C3E0 wrote:
If you role claim... PLEASE STICK WITH THE ROLE CLAIM! Reason f) #794 The whole lets help town by giving them an opinion of whats happening Reason g) 7B53534F590E3C0 wrote:
There is NO WAY humans know for sure 100% that objects fall towards the ground due to gravity. It's just a theory. There is NO WAY we know this unless we are God and it was us who created it. We don't know ANYTHING for sure unless we ourselves are God. We make claims everyday that we know 100%, and the only way we should believe them is if we are God too.[/quote] Just a sample but repeated trolling. (before the campaign but after scott and MVT voted for him) Any i missed? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 19:38:12 75444D4D75404D44210 wrote:
I think its a bit late now. You shoudlnt have needed me to point that out to you. It should have came naturally if u were a townie. Now that was really ur only move to attempt to look innocent and it doesn't change the fact that u were originally willing to leave the vote on silver before I said anything.[/quote] Why the fuck do you think it took me so long to vote for SS? BECAUSE I KNEW THAT IM A VANILLA AND IM A BETTER DEATH I ONLY FINALLY VOTED FOR HIM BECAUSE THERE IS A 0% CHANCE IM MAFIA WHILE THERE IS A 0.01% CHANCE HE IS MAFIA FUCK YOU I HATE YOU I NEVER WANT TO SEE YOU AGAIN I NEVER WANT TO PLAY MAFIA WITH YOU AGAIN I NEVER WANT TO POST ON THE SAME FORUM AS YOU AGAIN ME AND YOU ARE FUCKING DONE PROFESSIONALLY |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 19:39:13 I hate everyone in this thread I'm going to ask Penev to delete my account after this gane is over this is the last post I ever am making on the kart boards goodbye |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:40:05 02381F232A3F0A0C24242F1F2322252C4B0 wrote:
Take note. 4C76516D647144426A6A61516D6C6B62050 wrote:
Make up your fucking mind dude. You seem positive that he's mafia - why go back on it now? If I'm voting Goose I want you to give me a 100% guarantee that he's mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:40:06 143C3C203661530 wrote:
You can delete your own account, the button is in the profile settings. Howes did it during a game before. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 19:40:30 Votals [7] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, (Sword), Tim, (Goose) [5] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, (Tim), (Ivo), NStride, Ivo [1] TvL - RVZ, (Ivo), (Goose), (Ivo) [1] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), (NStride) [0] RDBU - (Ivo), (Goose), (Goose), (Sword) [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 20 minutes (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Goose on 03/23/11 at 19:40:35 unvote vote: SuprSilver just in case |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 19:41:39 ... well goodbye goose. nice knowing you... (on a side note do you want your music contest suggestions removed?) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:41:51 73161716270 wrote:
You misread my quote. The implication is that Goose will still be alive because he can't be killed due to inactivity among the voters. So as a result, he'll be MAFIA and STILL ALIVE and can just say what I said. Goose: The button is in My Center->Profile->Edit Profile->Delete User. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:45:50 15 minutes left. Vote: Goose Let's see what happens. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by MVT on 03/23/11 at 19:46:09 If I make it through the night I'm targeting nstride and goose tomorrow no matter which side supr flips as. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:46:49 Nice job of waiting until the last possible moment to vote Sword, once you know there's no way Goose will be voted out. Called that one. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:48:07 Members viewing this topic (10): S[ch969][ch959]rd, IsThatAGoodTime, fank009, Camster, MVT, Goose, NStride, Honko, Brett, KoopZ. KOOPZ YOU VOTE RIGHT NOW |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 19:48:14 Votals [8] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, (Sword), Tim, (Goose), Goose [6] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, (Tim), (Ivo), NStride, Ivo, Sword [1] TvL - RVZ, (Ivo), (Goose), (Ivo) [1] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), (NStride) [0] RDBU - (Ivo), (Goose), (Goose), (Sword) [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) Day ends in 12 minutes (exactly 9:00pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 10 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:49:17 Not really. Waiting till the last possible moment would have been much later. It was hopeless anyway. Unless Goose is willing to unvote and someone else comes on, chances are damn low. It's not like Goose can't be investigated if he survives Night 2. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:50:33 Not hopeless anymore, KoopZ is online and can vote resulting in a 2 vote swing for a TIE. KOOPZ STOP READING AND JUST VOTE Trust me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:51:59 He needs to hurry though. Just under 10 minutes remain. My vote on Goose is staying, by the way. Just incase you think I'm that much of a cunt. I'm still not convinced he's mafia though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 19:52:41 Unless a miracle happens SS is going to be lynched... (i so want to post a vid but im noob on the forums :'() |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:52:58 Thanks Sword. Sorry for acting out at you. Koopz STOP READING THE THREAD AND JUST VOTE |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 19:54:35 Why would I change now? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 19:55:02 5 minutes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:55:09 Koopz, CHANGE TO GOOSE. Everyone else who has been active in the last 2 hours has voted Goose. Ivo, Nstride, MVT, me, all the biggest town leads in the game are voting Goose. THE ONLY PEOPLE LEFT ON SS ARE INACTIVE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN AROUND IN HOURS. Please, you can stop to read later, NOT MUCH TIME LEFT. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:56:07 No worries Scott. Also KoopZ, Suprsilver is 99% chance of being town. Goose is a much lower chance. Plus I want to know whether I was being player the whole time. 4 minutes left though ... tick, tock, tick, tock ... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by KoopZ on 03/23/11 at 19:56:32 I do not believe goose is the best lynch. Sorry. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 19:57:11 Vig kill KoopZ? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:57:11 Koopz I'm only reading that as you are mafia with Goose if you don't change. There's a reason people always hate you when you play, because you make bad instinct choices. WHY NOT MAKE THE RIGHT ONE FOR ONCE. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by fank009 on 03/23/11 at 19:57:55 Koopz it is not a lynch vote... You switching to Goose will tie and the day will go into a tie break and we can get more info. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 19:58:02 2 minutes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:58:19 Koopz IF YOU VOTE GOOSE ITS A TIE SO WE GET MORE TIME TO THINK IT OVER SWITCH AND GIVE YOURSELF FREE TIME |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:58:21 Time is running out KoopZ. Are you sure you don't want to know if he was playing us all? I'm interested to find out. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/23/11 at 19:59:10 KOOPZ UNVOTE AND SWITCH TO GOOSE AT WORST IT GIVES YOU TIME TO READ MORE POSTS HONKO SAYS ITS AN EXTENSION IF ITS A TIE Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/23/11 at 19:59:30 KoopZ, just make the vote on Goose, and we have time to think! It's not the lynch vote! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Sωοrd on 03/23/11 at 19:59:42 Yeah KoopZ Vote him so the day ends in a tie Hurry! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Night 2 Post by Honko on 03/23/11 at 20:08:49 SuprSilver has been lynched. He was Scott, MAFIA Vanilla. It is now Night 2. Send your night actions to me by PM in the next 23 hours. If you do not wish to use your night action tonight, please PM me with that decision. If you do not have any night powers, no PM is necessary. Final Day 2 Votals [8] SuprSilver - (RDBU), KoopZ, Darius, (NStride), Zwiebel, (Web), (Ivo), (RVZ), (NStride), (MVT), (Goose), (MVT), RDBU, MattV, Web, (Sword), Tim, (Goose), Goose [6] Goose - fank, (MattV), MVT, Scott, (Tim), (Ivo), NStride, Ivo, Sword [1] TvL - RVZ, (Ivo), (Goose), (Ivo) [1] fank - (Goose), padz, (Web), (RDBU), (Goose), (NStride) [0] RDBU - (Ivo), (Goose), (Goose), (Sword) [0] KoopZ - (NStride), (NStride) [0] Zarkov - (MattV) [0] MattV - (Scott) [0] Darius - (TvL) [0] Web - (fank) [0] NStride - (MVT) [0] Ivo - (MVT) The Living 1. Darius 2. fank 3. Goose 4. Ivo 5. KoopZ 6. Matt V 7. MVT 8. NStride 9. padz 10. RDBU 11. RVZ 12. Scott 13. Sword 14. Tim 15. TvL 16. Web 17. Zarkov 18. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/24/11 at 17:56:45 KoopZ is dead. He was KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla. Zarkov is dead. He was DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla. The Living 1. Darius 2. fank 3. Goose 4. Ivo 5. Matt V 6. MVT 7. NStride 8. padz 9. RDBU 10. RVZ 11. Scott 12. Sword 13. Tim 14. TvL 15. Web 16. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) With 16 players alive it takes 9 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when a player reaches 9 votes. REMINDER: Dead players do NOT get a "farewell" post. If you're dead, stay quiet. Also, be sure to check your PMs before posting. Go! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 18:07:21 May i be 1st post here saying... WTH AM I STILL DOING ALIVE... This must obviously be a maf trick to help the town think im maf cause we are SLAUGHTERING them like sheep... I was going to have a go at koopz but he was silenced by our vig... GOOD JOB... I reckon the Vig is the only one saving the town at the moment :P... Lets keep up the good work and keep killing maf... May i confirm that Maf and Admin are Two seperate groups (it seems like) we dont know numbers in each group but the looks of things the "maf" group looks like vanilla. But man... this game gets weirder by the second. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/24/11 at 18:12:34 if you faggots lynch goose i quit |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/24/11 at 18:15:03 I think the vig is retarded and can't do his job. Fank is still alive. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 18:15:18 0534312F2025550 wrote:
Sounds like a lovers scenario... You do know it has to happen eh :'( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 18:16:41 79484141794C41482D0 wrote:
Obviously either the maf or the vig want me alive... (maybe the vig didnt shoot me cause i seem best target for maf doctor... regardless of status) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/24/11 at 18:27:39 Vote - NStride I promised many times yesterday!!!! (couldn't find the quotes but I know I mentioned it many times that I would vote you if silver actually flipped maf) 72434A4A72474A43260 wrote:
These leans still seem accurate in my book. 17262F2F17222F26430 wrote:
He sure gives us one big lead...YOU. 7A4B42427A4F424B2E0 wrote:
I explicitely called you on it here. I wish I would have added the line about betting that your vote would not stay on him. ;D Because I would have taken that bet in a heartbeat. 747B716C7F79607B7170707B150 wrote:
Cha-ching. Just as I predicted. You really had no intention of voting off silver. Can anyone not see how obviously shock is maf? I think silver is his maf buddy too.[/quote] The highlight matters. 4170797941747970150 wrote:
I have not forgotten. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/24/11 at 18:35:36 NStride and Goose look like the best supporters against a SS lynch. Why did Goose flip off and on SS so many times? That's what killed me. That and the 100% town, 0.01% mafia thing. No votes yet obviously, but it really makes no sense why he was outwardly defending such a bad player in a harsh way. I might be on for 15 more minutes, then I'll be on after school tomorrow, with maybe one or two posts in the morning. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/24/11 at 18:36:51 595E51540F0F063F0 wrote:
Obviously either the maf or the vig want me alive... (maybe the vig didnt shoot me cause i seem best target for maf doctor... regardless of status)[/quote] Maf wants you alive if you're town because you confuse the heck out of half of the town with your posts. Vig is playing confusingly since you are still alive, although since KoopZ did get killed, we had a 2v1 night, which is very very helpful. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/24/11 at 18:47:00 775F5F435502300 wrote:
when goose flips scum town assumes he was trying to take koopz and i down w/ him so koopz is cleared. padz is incriminated no matter what happens 775F5F435502300 wrote:
clarks town. as for sword: 6840405C4A1D2F0 wrote:
goose made this statement intending for town to take it in the other direction. dont be fooled. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/24/11 at 19:29:10 69424559442B0 wrote:
I have a lot of thoughts swimming around in my head right now. I can't make sense of them at the moment though. (What can I say, I answered 4000 questions on freerice had a couple tests, tutored, woke up early this morning. [smiley=dead.gif]) I'll start today though with making sense of the night kills and offering some insight if you want to call it that. Notice the kills. If the player was powerless, they showed up Vanilla. (no duh). Evidenced by both the Vanilla town and Vanilla Maf kills. We can say for certain now too that ADMIN = SK. So what can be said about these people? J-Cop, Town and not Vanilla. The fact that his role ended in a question asking who the fuck somebody was makes me wonder if he was an insane cop. Camster, Town Female Intuition. Not Vanilla. Spril's own title says "Solving conspiracies since 2006". Probably Cop. Now, if I can try to make sense of stuff, the implications of KoopZ turning up Maf. Goose really distanced himself from KoopZ, but that can be taken either way. However. KoopZ could have "saved" himself if he had just voted Goose. He should have leaped at the opportunity, if goose were town. But what if Goose were a higher role maf? KoopZ would keep the vote off him to prevent the chance of Goose's death! Supr > Goose, because Goose would be a much more costly kill! Now, he roleclaimed vanilla town, expecting to get scanned last night. If he were the Godfather, he would come back just that, and he would be essentially cleared the rest of the game, until this was picked up on. Goose, I'm on you ALL DAY today. We can "spare" your death now if you come up town given the fortunate night events and yesterday's lynch. You would also clear a lot of confusion from the thread, with your constant derailing and trolling. Vote: Goose You guys can lynch me tomorrow if he turns up town like he claims. [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/24/11 at 19:41:20 Padz what do you think of my case against NStride? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 19:49:56 Nstride, i like your knowledge and ill let ya finish... What about the handicapper role? We dont know the effects of the role but one lone person with such a role which we agreed on seems unfair. I believe that admin is a group. But we need more info to be sure. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/24/11 at 19:52:03 Straight up, I fucked up. I was selfish and thought my read on SuprSilver was 100% accurate that he was a townie. I'm really happy someone killed Koopz because I thought he was mafiaey and thought it would be hard to get him lynched. I don't expect to be believed. What I did was unacceptable. I'm just hoping you can give me a second chance. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/24/11 at 19:57:21 29262C3122243D262C2D2D26480 wrote:
I have a lot of thoughts swimming around in my head right now. I can't make sense of them at the moment though. (What can I say, I answered 4000 questions on freerice had a couple tests, tutored, woke up early this morning. [smiley=dead.gif]) I'll start today though with making sense of the night kills and offering some insight if you want to call it that. Notice the kills. If the player was powerless, they showed up Vanilla. (no duh). Evidenced by both the Vanilla town and Vanilla Maf kills. We can say for certain now too that ADMIN = SK. So what can be said about these people? J-Cop, Town and not Vanilla. The fact that his role ended in a question asking who the fuck somebody was makes me wonder if he was an insane cop. Camster, Town Female Intuition. Not Vanilla. Spril's own title says "Solving conspiracies since 2006". Probably Cop. Now, if I can try to make sense of stuff, the implications of KoopZ turning up Maf. Goose really distanced himself from KoopZ, but that can be taken either way. However. KoopZ could have "saved" himself if he had just voted Goose. He should have leaped at the opportunity, if goose were town. But what if Goose were a higher role maf? KoopZ would keep the vote off him to prevent the chance of Goose's death! Supr > Goose, because Goose would be a much more costly kill! Now, he roleclaimed vanilla town, expecting to get scanned last night. If he were the Godfather, he would come back just that, and he would be essentially cleared the rest of the game, until this was picked up on. Goose, I'm on you ALL DAY today. We can "spare" your death now if you come up town given the fortunate night events and yesterday's lynch. You would also clear a lot of confusion from the thread, with your constant derailing and trolling. Vote: Goose You guys can lynch me tomorrow if he turns up town like he claims. [smiley=uzi.gif] [/quote] I don't like the way you say that at all. Admin might be a whole other camp of players for all you know. Handicapper doesn't seem like a killing role to me. The way you said that and the way you are trying to guide town into believing that admin=sk is a fact, makes me think you yourself are on the admin team. You know there are more of you. You dirty liar. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 19:58:32 5D6C65655D68656C090 wrote:
I know the q is not at me but i reckon my opinion (the way i see it) is needed. Nstride strongly supporting goose suggest he is on the same side. He wouldn't vote for goose if he was godfather suggesting that he is godfather. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/24/11 at 19:59:10 624A4A564017250 wrote:
Admit you are a terrible n00b player. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 20:01:14 113939253364560 wrote:
You want a second chance? Vote nstride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 20:03:16 35040D0D35000D04610 wrote:
Admit you are a terrible n00b player.[/quote] I got a better idea. Admit i'm a better player :D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/24/11 at 20:04:12 ADMIN is a 3rd faction. Sportsguy was an ADMIN Handicapper. Usually the 3rd faction member is a SERIAL KILLER; IF there is only one of them. Since 2 people are dying at night, there MUST be another killer. MOST LIKELY it is another ADMIN member. In a game of only 22 people, I would be extremely surprised that the ADMIN group is bigger than 2. I think the ADMIN Serial Killer is still out there. His goal would be to live until the end. I think there are 2-3 MAFIA left as well. That's just what my game experience suggests is likely here. I would say it is 100% impossible that Sportsguy was a solo Serial Killer but also Handicapper. But my 100%s haven't been good lately. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/24/11 at 20:04:56 I'm a noob player fank is better than me and I do plan on voting for NStride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/24/11 at 20:07:04 Vote: Goose Was going to vote Koopz, looks like someone here is on the same page as me. MVT: Why do you want Nstride dead so badly? I've thought he's pretty much not mafia the whole while. Your implication that he's an ADMIN seems silly, I'll point to his "Camster, ADMIN Handicrapper" slip earlier. Does Nstride have the foresight to say that in hopes we'd read into it as we can? Don't really feel like it, it felt honest to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/24/11 at 20:09:20 Also MVT I really hope you can reconsider your read on Ivo. What he did near the end of Day 2 was some of the most townie play possible. If you can't see that already I think you need to reread. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/24/11 at 20:11:29 665C7B474E5B6E6840404B7B474641482F0 wrote:
Ivo is less concerning. I think Goose could also be against town. Him and Nstride are my targets. NStride doesn't look right at all to me man. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/24/11 at 20:17:48 I've been a bit taken aback by Nstride since way back, I even straight up told him to stop being so harsh! He's maintained that he has something that forces him to post with such a style, perhaps he's MVT, FOREVER ALONE Womanizer ::) Anyway, let's play scenarios for a quick bit. If Goose died last night as well and flipped MAFIA who would you be going after, still Nstride? What if Goose flipped TOWN? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/24/11 at 20:22:11 There was an SK kill night 1, and a vig kill night two. I guarantee it. Roleclaim time. 343B312C3F39203B3130303B550 wrote:
> Handicapping town would be a terrible move since it would clear them. <I said a lot more stuff here, you can follow the link back if you want to. Either way, I made sure to put the "I" in a weird place where it wouldn't be noticed/considered.>[/quote] 6E616B7665637A616B6A6A610F0 wrote:
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This is the kind of thing that I'm talking about. Adding that "for town" at the end. I would have said "best possible lynch" period. Tacking on that "for town" just sounds forced. You're also not thinking this through clearly. I think you're more "fucked" if he turns up mafia. Supr has played poorly, and having the mafia pull a move in which they push a noob maf out the door and rally behind it puts them all in good light and under the radar. Now here's the thing. There's enough of a case against Supr that he may still be lynched today. I actually wouldn't be terribly surprised if he turns up maf, but I want to point something out. Goose basically "took the bullets" for Silver, and got me to join in and solidify my defense against him. Now, he has brought the case against me, and once again the mentality of the thread is to lynch Supr, effectively screwing me if he turns up mafia. The mafia could be trying to set me up, but I will do what I can to kill <notice the odd new line here. I did it for a reason> those suspicions before this day ends. Now I turn to you Goose. You need to explain some things, and to be honest I rather think you can't. Why take the bullets for Super, get me to join in, then essentially encourage a derailment of the thread by pushing fank's case, then twisting my posts to appear maf, then going back and encouraging a Silver lynch? Then you go back and say don't lynch Silver, he's probably noob town based on social factors etc. You seem to be encouraging confusion, trying to control the mentality of the thread when you should be trying to encourage trains of thought, and you've been all over with your votes, posting large amounts, and many other things? I wish I could complete my thoughts on you man, but I just can't. [smiley=flush.gif] I want you to explain yourself the best you can, and tell us your town/maf leans from today. Also, what is your opinion of TvL?[/quote] I couldn't make up my mind on who to kill the rest of the day, so I didn't insert the final, telltale name until the end of the day, where I made sure I at least hinted at my choice. 333C362B383E273C3637373C520 wrote:
This was my last post of the day. I am town Vig. I made no kill on Night 1, to try to gauge if there was another vig out there, because otherwise there would have been a fank kill for sure. I killed KoopZ on night two, because I was sure he was maf, and I set up my posts to imply a KoopZ kill anyway. If I live to the end of today, I will kill fank, unless told to kill otherwise. (I have 2 shots) He seems to be heavily implying along with you MVT that there is a third, ADMIN party. I no longer am concerned about my own "safety" at this time from the mafia, this roleclaim is most helpful I believe, and now you guys will hopefully trust my word 100%. Kill Goose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/24/11 at 20:24:07 Supr was mafia vanilla. Do you honestly think if I were also mafia I would be willing to sacrifice myself to save him? He has no special powers as a mafia. I probably would have just bussed him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/24/11 at 20:24:46 5A6B6E707F7A0A0 wrote:
This is the very first post I consulted as soon as the Day began. I even have it bookmarked. And yes, you were the first thing to come to mind. When he made that post I told myself almost everyone in that list is going to be mafia (if Goose is mafia). Looks like we both thought the same at least. I like it when other people in the game think the same as I do. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/24/11 at 20:26:21 Lol, I thought the Ipadz was a joke about those little tablet things. Yes, I did notice that when you posted it. I wondered why it wasn't a small i Now you have to explain your reaction to the time I pressed you about harshness and something stupid or retarded about your role. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/24/11 at 20:28:04 032B2B372176440 wrote:
Why else would KoopZ not switch his vote, lol. As soon as Koopz posted the 2nd time about not switching his vote, he was in his grave as far as I was concerned. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/24/11 at 20:29:20 Because if he switched his vote he would be killing villager Goose instead of Supr mafia when Supr eventually died, he would look REALLY bad He was planning on living longer so that's why he didn't vote me. He was bussing Supr to be able to gain more credit for the long run. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/24/11 at 20:30:52 I like being speculative Nstride. You see me as admin cause i talk about it a lot. Cause im noob you think that it is easier to slip up. So you being vigilante? Does it restrict you to two shots? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/24/11 at 20:35:17 260E0E120453610 wrote:
No he wouldn't. No matter what switching there is the right thing to do. Every alive townie was making the same decision. If he switches to you and you're Mafia, he looks great. If he switches to you and you're Town, he looks like he did a good job following our best lead and does NOT look like a completely lost player saying "Sorry, I don't think that's the best move" right at the end of the day. I have no idea what he was thinking because anyone that reads the last page of Day 2 sees Koopz as mafia right there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/24/11 at 20:52:26 He knew I wasn't mafia though. I disagree. If he picks me over Supr, when Supr dies he looks horrible. Plain and simple. I think you're mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/24/11 at 21:18:45 anyone attempting to lynch goose is mafia |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Sωοrd on 03/24/11 at 23:27:12 LOL AT SUPRSILVER FLIPPING MAFIA I cannot believe I let Ivo and Scott persuade me with their load of horseshit. Seriously. Ivo spent all that time assuming that Admin was Mafia and that him being silenced by vote was more of a town trait? Ugh. I can't believe I didn't follow my instincts. I let you fuckers change my ideas. Never again. Ivo looks really bad now. Part of me thinks this was his ingenious plan to get Suprsilver a free pass for the entire game, part of me just thinks he fucked up big time just like he did with RVZ in a previous game. Hopefully, it's the latter. This is why you need to stop thinking you're right Ivo. And I'm glad Goose didn't hit majority last night. That was my intention, too. I did vote late, yes. And I'm glad I did. As padz said, and I completely back it up, anyone who goes for Goose today is scum. As for Shock's claim, it makes sense, and it is believeable. Nice shot if you did actually murder KoopZ. Then again, he was being way too quiet, so something was up. I also would like to hear considerable amounts from TvL today. I still did not receive a response from MVT as to why he is so valuable and must be kept alive. Generally confusing. Darius, I haven't forgotten about you either. I know you were one of the first to really push for the Suprsilver lynch, but as Goose said, this may have been to gain credit from town, just like how KoopZ refused to remove his vote EOD to make sure he got the hook. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Sωοrd on 03/24/11 at 23:33:40 Suspicious of : - Scott (Pushing the Goose lynch, it's blatantly obvious he is town) - NStride (Once again trying to advocate a Goose lynch) - Darius (Possibility the Suprsilver lynch was entirely to throw the weakest mafia player under the bus early to gain credit) - TvL (Lurker, can bring so much more to the table but chooses not to; nervous?) - Ivo (Was the one behind getting everyone to change from Suprsilver in the first place - huge attempt to save him and get him a free pass?) - RDBU (Being useless, not helping, perhaps in the same essense that Suprsilver was?) I'm going to be gone for the first half of Day 3 since I'm travelling back to London to meet some friends. I will say this once again incase you didn't see it from padz already Do not vote or attempt to lynch Goose today. If you do, you're scum. I'll see you guys in a day or so. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Darius on 03/25/11 at 00:35:36 Will get to this in more detail later, but there's something that needs to be asked right away: NStride: Who are you and what's the flavour for your role? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 00:38:22 Ha! I prepared a post yesterday, pointing the finger at KoopZ. Now that he has turned up mafia, my theory has some hard proof to go with it. I've been thinking about what has transpired on day 2. I wasn't there to follow it as it happened; I won't bore you with the excuses. I was quite surprised to learn that Suprsilver was mafia. He and others had me convinced. And some of my suspicions about other people were based on them voting Suprsilver. It had left me confused. But then again, that's exactly what the mafia are trying to achieve. I have come to believe that the mafia have deliberately set one of their own up for this lynch. Suprsilver was looking very weak on day one already. So why not make the most of him? After his lynch and the revelation of his identity, the people who voted for him will look less suspicious. In this light, KoopZ's refusal to change his vote for Goose becomes logical, given that he was mafia. If it was the mafia's plan to let Suprsilver get lynched, the sudden focus on Goose was inconvenient. Also, KoopZ was probably considering the prospect of looking innocent by voting for a mafia member. This does not necessarily say anything about Goose though. Although his move to claim seer and then admit to lying about it is extremely weird. I would not expect from a town player to lie like that, but on the other hand I would not expect from a mafia player to admit to lying like that either. I really don't know what to make of him. My suspicions on RVZ are high. Early on day 2, he quickly moved onto Suprsilver: Quote:
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Wow! Flashback I said exactly the same and was in exactly the same situation in the game. I was maf in that past game right? Vote: SuprSilver[/quote] Yes, I wonder where Suprsilver got the inspiration from for this post. The primary source perhaps? Later, he did an unvote without specifying any reason at all. I believe Suprsilver was already hot by then, so he could afford to look "active". A while after that, he produced this: Quote:
I can't quite put my finger on it, but that last question looks out of place. It looks equivalent to "How do you like my post?" A little while later, he took a stab at me. RVZ is my top mafia lean now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 01:36:55 Town Leanz Scott Zwiebel MVT The Webinator Darius Padz (gooses lover... imo) Admin Leanz Maf Leanz Goose (SS flipped maf) Nstride (SS Flipped Maf) Useless as fank RDBU Sword... the way your speaking its like you know something bout goose we dont... And about his posts being townish... Anyone can make townish posts... just to point you out... Im still confident Goose is either stupid townie who did too much reading into stuff or maf (in particular God father... but i have plenty of suspects for the MAF godfather role) And i think that it is mighty convienient of you to be out and about during this time... But maybe what you are doing is doing a "goose") |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 01:38:27 7356455E4244370 wrote:
He probably wont tell... His flavour is hopefully Strawberry... Im getting tired of vanilla :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/25/11 at 02:01:22 Useless? Ever since that list fiasco, I suspected SS of being mafia. I kept my vote on him even when everyone wanted to bandwagon Goose (granted, I wanted him gone too). ...Speaking of, he flatout defended SS and attacked nearly everyone who voted him. Voted for SS early D2, removed it when the pressure was put on him. Only voted again when SS was just about done. Vote: Goose Speak up buster. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by RVZ on 03/25/11 at 02:42:32 iirc, I've read somewhere that the Serial Killer can't be NK'd. So how can the ADMIN be SK? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm kinda unexperienced. KoopZ didn't changed his vote to Goose right before the day ended. I think it's because it was either SuprSilver or Goose, both mafia members. Then I would've voted SuprSilver also out if I were KoopZ. Also with the idea that it would've cleared him cuz SuprSilver will flip MAF. Luckily our vig didn't fell for it :) Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 03:02:55 5D52584556504952585959523C0 wrote:
I'm sorry, but can you remind me what SK means? I've been pretty much assuming that it was just town vs. mafia, but if admin is separate I may need to reconsider my theory (or add to it). EDIT (2 min): Never mind, above post answers it. Ivo, I'm very interested to hear your thoughts about your misread on Suprsilver. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 03:07:11 SK = serial killer |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 03:57:34 496C7F64787E0D0 wrote:
Scott got it, as I've been hinting all along. I am MVT, Town hater (Vig Bomb). It takes 8 votes to lynch me today, and the person with the last vote on me if I am lynched via majority dies. Don't forget that Sword changed his vote to RDBU with Goose last night guys, and gave a rather huge post about it. I think he was trying to sway public opinion and spotlight off both of them. Also, bringing up a pre-game sidenote, wasn't Goose the one who said he would take the noobs to his team and he would win it all anyway? Or something along those lines. Nope, I wouldn't be surprised at all if we've caught ourselves the godfather. As for his main defense, i.e. pulling hard for Suprsilver near his lynch, to me it just sounds like something he would do, some show of bravado that he could say he did and no one caught him. If it fails, he can always fall back on it and call it ludicrous... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 04:03:26 7C5B4B50565F5F4D3E0 wrote:
I think you're referring to Ivo's game. The SK had a special capability to being invincible at night. It was an add-on, not a perquisite. By the way, the Goose lynch is definitely not a bad option information wise. If he does turn up mafia, we basically have the win, because that guarantees that Sword is maf. The two have definitely drawn a line and connected each other if you look carefully at what happened last night and what Sword has said this morning. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 04:08:32 6E495942444D4D5F2C0 wrote:
Nice post TvL back there, but this gives me a town lean on RVZ. He could've easily just asked this to his mafbuddies. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 04:37:08 ^ If he is mafia, he had the choice of asking his buddies or publicly; asking publicly gives the added bonus of looking townish for the reason you gave. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Darius on 03/25/11 at 04:38:57 MVT as town hater vig seems likely and fits with the hints. I think NStride is pretty clear. On the topic of the SK, it is common for SK's to have some kind of kill immunity, but it's not built in with the role. I wouldn't be so sure that there aren't more Admins about, though. Having Sportsguy as a Handicapper and a solo third party at the same time sounds a little too unusual to me, and we don't know what else went on last night. TvL and RDBU are still good bets for a lynch, although TvL's first couple of posts today make me feel better about his slot, particularly his point about RvZ's tone. I don't think I remember anything of note RvZ has done, which is a good indication of potential lurker mafia. I need to look back at MVT's reaction to the Supr lynch because his attempts to link several players seemed off to me, and Goose and Sword definitely seem to be connected in some way so I need to reread their interactions. I'm also uneasy about Tim today; I felt he was pretty townie the first couple of days, but I looking back I don't really feel like he provided much original thought, particularly yesterday, and I have a similar feeling about him that I do with RvZ; I can't really name much that he's done of note. Has anyone ever actually seen Goose be apologetic before? This is so out of character I'm kind of confused. NStride: why would RVZ have asked his mafbuddies that and not just asked it in thread like he did? I don't understand why this makes him more likely town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 04:51:07 Just read through everything what happened, Shock's claim is very believable in my opinion. From the moment when he claimed he "imitates MVT" I thought something along those lines, so I'd say Shock really is the vig. So that makes Shock the worst possible lynch for today(if the claim is true, what I believe for the moment). I don't know if it was really good to claim already, since it wasn't going into the direction of lynching you yet, and you could maybe have survived the day without outing yourself. Still, just because of the fact that you claimed earlier, I think you're Town. I don't think Mafia would claim that early, in all my previous games Mafia claimed just before they got lynched in an attempt to save themselves. Which basically is what Town does as well normally. So NStride being cleared for me, I think TvL looks really bad after Supr came back Maf. I'll search back to my old post, so I don't have to rewrite everything. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 05:01:05 466B75797E79701C0 wrote:
I can't help it, but that post is striking me odd... 1. Quote:
So you want to contribute more because of others? You should get active because you want to help, not because other tell you to. If you're posting just some things but they're useful, that's fine. Posting just for the sake of posting is pretty Mafia-like. 2. Quote:
I think you're overdoing, and it's not that suspicious to want to get rid of J-Cop. We can't get that much out of it, because Mafia could also have avoided jumping on the bandwagon to not look suspicious. Fank was doing retard things all the day long, so seeing that action we can't really get any more information than we already know about Fank. 3. Quote:
Again, this looks like a Mafiaish post to me. And it makes Suprsilver look even more Mafia in this context. So you basically think, he's dropped below radar? He's in the middle of our suspicions, and we will lynch him, if he doesn't speak up. Wouldn't really call that below radar. You want to look good by pointing towards things, which seem to contain something worthy, but are either wrong or just useless. And trying to defend your actions/looking active. I really think you could be bussing Supr, who is your Maf buddy. Seriously, we should lynch Supr today. If he flips Maf, I think TvL should be examined really closely. If he flips Town, we should still have an eye on TvL, because of his posting style. Either way, lynching him today wouldn't really be as helpful as to lynch Supr, so I'll go with Supr. I dunno who brought it up, but I'd agree with the vig killing Fank this night. His posts don't get better and his overposting just helps Mafia to hide. Also, I think Web did try to defend Supr on D1, so we might also get some info about him(sorry if I'm wrong about that, I'll reread later). Tl; dr Vote Suprsilver [/quote] I still believe that theorie could be true...TvL, you just said you prepared a post, which was going to accuse Koopz. Do you still have the post? I'd have liked to see it. Everyone can say he prepared a post, so show that post to me. I won't believe you until I saw that post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 05:11:08 That post in which I said I had prepared a post was that prepared post. I just added that first sentence, replaced "if you assume he is mafia" with "given that he was mafia" and removed KoopZ from my mafia-lean list. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 05:20:22 Let me also clear something up about that 3rd quote of mine in your quote. I meant to say that he tried to drop below radar, i.e. he went silent. I misworded. Finally I can see pieces of the puzzle fit into place. I'm just not sure yet I've got the puzzle the right way around... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 05:24:40 Oh, lol. I guess that's fine then. You could have mentioned it somewhere though ::) Anyway, I'm interested in what you have to say today. You're still on my list of suspicion, but at least you're willing to post some stuff that hasn't been mentioned yet, so I'll leave it like that. I have to go to a job interview now, I'll be back later. In the meantime TvL, I would really like you to analyze some more of RVZ' posts, or of any other player you're suspicious of. If you're Town, you should really make an effort to help now, since the longer we play, the worse are mislynches. I'm positively surprised by your current activity, so keep it up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/25/11 at 05:28:38 34515051600 wrote:
I gave you a response about Tvl near the end of the day d2. To paraphrase I said that lynching him that day would give us very little information compared to a Goose or supr lynch. I stand by that. However today is a new day and I would certainly be interested in knowing what tvl has to say now. About Shock, ok I agree you could be a vig and killed koop. Something still tells me you are on the Admin team though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 06:50:21 Lol I was just ready to go when that guy told me I should come 45 minutes later ;D Anyway, I have some time now before I have to go so I'll look back at some posts. I think Ivo pushed a bit too hard for a goose lynch, he would have looked great if goose came back Mafia and if goose came back Town, everyone would be thinking he wouldn't have pushed so hard for a Town lynch if he was Mafia. I think Ivo is one of the better players, so it might have been his plan to get that scenario. I also agree with MVT that he could have tried to get a free pass for silver along with that plan. Also, as I stated D2, I will go for lynching any inactive if he's not going to help us today. This includes especially RVZ, RDBU, TvL and Matt V. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by RVZ on 03/25/11 at 06:50:57 I not quite understand how Zarkov got NK'd. It's not like he was a threat for the mafia or something. This makes me pretty positive that there is still a SK/Admin alive. SK lynched Zarkov, hope to get a luckyshot. Our vig lynched KoopZ. Maf's lynch got blocked by our Doc. I don't like NStride's early claim here. He could be the last Admin standing like MVT said and hopes with this early town vig claim he'll get protected by our doc for the rest of the game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/25/11 at 06:59:25 I feel like either sword or padz are cop or on goose's scum team because there is no other way they can be THAT CERTAIN that he is town. Doesn't come off well to me one bit. Please do explain yourselves. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 07:04:41 0126362D2B222230430 wrote:
I think it's the opposite. I think killing zarkov could have been an option for the Mafia, since we get basically no information out of that kill. If that's true, I think we can assume now that the Mafia also killed Sportsguy and not Cam, because that lynch would have basically been the same way: Don't give Town any information. I think that makes sense, since I think if Shock did not shoot anyone night 1, Sportsguy killed Cam night one, so he probably indeed was the SK. It kind of fits togethether for me, and makes shock's claim even more trustworthy for me. Of course it could also be Shock lying and being in the Admin team, but there hasn't been any counterclaim yet for the vig role, so I'll believe him for now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/25/11 at 07:20:22 Votals [4] Goose - NStride, Scott, RDBU, RVZ [1] NStride - MVT Day ends in 35 hours or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 07:26:27 765B45494E49402C0 wrote:
Dingdingding. Also quieter town like Zarkov may tend to be power trying to stay low. If they kill anyone pushing a Goose lynch at the end of the Day, then Goose gets even more suspicion today (note this). So even if there are some clearly town players they can't take them out since that gives information re: Goose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by RVZ on 03/25/11 at 07:38:41 @Zwiebel I just find NStride's early claim odd. Usually it's a lie when someone's claiming early. @Scott Ur talking like it's a given fact that Goose is maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by RVZ on 03/25/11 at 07:42:24 And NStride's claim is not only early, he also didn't had any reason to do it anyway. I think there lies a plan behind it and I think it's something like I said. unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 07:57:09 6F485843454C4C5E2D0 wrote:
I'm trying to find things that point to that. You have to take things as a given to look for information. To build a theory, one must start with an assumption. I try to make the opposite assumption once I reach my result though. if you read my post you see the implication is that if Goose is town, then Ivo/Nstride/me/fank/sword or anyone else voting Goose would have been a GREAT kill because it puts the pressure on Goose (as town). This didn't happen |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 08:01:25 I'm not convinced Goose is mafia. If he is, then why did he go through such great lengths to defend Suprsilver? Sure, he would've been a mafia buddy, but not one with special powers, and he was looking ripe for lynching anyway. What Goose has going against him, is that KoopZ went for Suprsilver rather than Goose. It would make sense if Goose has a mafia power role, but that seems especially unlikely in view of his Suprsilver defense. Goose being town does fit in though with my theory that the mafia have sacrificed Suprsilver. KoopZ's action has made Goose suspicious in the process. I must be careful not to stare myself blind at my theory, but I'm liking it so far. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/25/11 at 08:29:58 With NStride what bothers me really the most is just how little he wanted to do with the supersilver lynch. Even when he had his vote briefly placed on silver he kept defending the guy and giving people reasons to vote elsewhere. Then he himself removed his vote and pushed hard on the Goose wagon. If there is another vig, please claim. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/25/11 at 08:35:54 I also have no idea why he would claim this early in the game if he is actually vig. Especially considering I'm the only one who put any kind of pressure on him and it was only 1 single vote. If he is actually vig he is a moron for claiming so early with no pressure. Why would he claim so early? RVZ also pointed this out. Something really doesn't quite sit right with me. If he vig killed Koopz then bravo, but why the hell come out and say it unless you are pulling a Gaff and just want to brag about how you snuffed out a mafia. Such a waste of a role if you are vig NStride. Also, if anyone is handicapped in any way also speak up and tell us. If no one is then that would most likely indicate that Sportsguy was acting alone and there are no more. I still have a hunch that there are more "Admin" players though. Unless there was a second vig who killed someone n1 though it is hard to explain...Basically we need to have a thorough understanding of the night procedings taht I feel we do not have at the moment. All vigs come out and claim and anyone who has any possible night actions happen against them (handicap, etc) please tell us. We are at a depserate lack of information at the moment. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/25/11 at 08:51:51 Also setting up a Shock lynch would tell us a LOT when it comes down to putting the final vote down and who would / would not be willing to do it. We might be able to see another maf or admin if someone pulls a koopz and goes against the lynch or the mafs and or admins all might stack their votes early on so that a townie is forced to do the job. About the maf / and or admins thing... It doesn't seem to me that the role of Handicapper = SK. It just doesn't seem like it. What else can I really say, the name speaks for itself. It's also possible that Silver was in fact actually handicapped. Like Goose said yesterday I find it hard to believe that a 12 year old would think of a line saying "Honko when I die please tell them I was handicapped", if he wasn't actually capped. I think NStride is the best choice for today. Padz and Sword also are not telling us something about Goose. This is quite disheartening considering we have such little information to vote off of as is. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 09:30:33 7F4E47477F4A474E2B0 wrote:
I believed Goose at first along with many others, because his case had a lot of credence. That's my weakness in these games. I give too many people the benefit of the doubt, and I was too ready to jump on with Goose with his "HE'S 12 YEARS OLD LET HIM LIVE." I removed my vote and pushed hard on the Goose wagon because I noticed the ploy and he was setting me up. His game has caught me in a hole. If I were Admin, why would I try to take out KoopZ? I would go for town I think, because KoopZ could have easily been the lynch for today, and as a third party I would want to balance the kills and keep myself OUT of the spotlight. Rather, with that kill I find myself IN the spotlight; I did it because I was convinced KoopZ was maf after what he did in the last minutes of the game, and I wanted and planned to push Goose for today and/or focus on less obvious cases. Either way, there comes a point where one needs to balance the odds, look back at what I've said and done, and give the benefit of the doubt that I'm town vig. Otherwise we will probably gain little ground and just speculate and argue back and forth over wether I'm lying or not. That brings up the reason why I claimed early: gives people time to think about what I've said in the past and what you all have had time to think about instead of throwing everyone into confusion by claiming near the end of day, and I was planning on claiming today anyway. Now seriously. Let's lynch Goose. It's a risk that's definitely work taking: if he DOES turn up mafia (and even Godfather) we have a clear link back to Sword. If he flips town, I haven't played very well I guess, because then I would be dead. I'm willing to take that risk. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by RVZ on 03/25/11 at 09:57:04 If I were Admin, why would I try to take out KoopZ? I would go for town I think, because KoopZ could have easily been the lynch for today, and as a third party I would want to balance the kills and keep myself OUT of the spotlight. Rather, with that kill I find myself IN the spotlight; I did it because I was convinced KoopZ was maf after what he did in the last minutes of the game, and I wanted and planned to push Goose for today and/or focus on less obvious cases. Why did you were convinced that KoopZ was obvious maf after what he did before EOD? Sure if Supr flipped town he was obv maf. But Supr flipped maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 10:09:42 082F3F24222B2B394A0 wrote:
Any legitimate town member would have just voted Goose and bought the town more time to think about the lynch. This is why I think Goose is maf too, and I think you caught onto it. KoopZ held off his vote to softbus himself and make sure Goose wouldn't be lynched. His plan wasn't thought through well at all, and I was able to confidently kill him, and since he's turned up mafia his plan has backfired. Goose is probably mafia also because he's crawling on his hands and knees begging for forgiveness and asking for a second shot when, as a real vanilla town, he should be trying to bring back some posts he's made and cleared some things up, given us some leads, etc. Obviously, he's not. He's just fighting for his own survival where it is basically hopeless for him at this point. --- Also, you said how do we know that the doctor didn't just make a save last night and the SK or a third killing party is still alive? Think about it. I've claimed KoopZ kill, and I think after the "stamp" I left behind for you guys this is beyond a doubt. So who would kill Zarkov? The mafia, since he brings no leads back to us and he is not likely to have been angeled. In fact, the chances of a successful angel with so many players still is also pretty low. So yes, the SK is dead (since I didn't make a kill night 1, and I don't think there's any other vigs, otherwise they would have killed fank), and he was labeled ADMIN, which is why I do not think there is a 3rd team in this game. Now fuck off. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 10:36:14 Now MVT, you've been adamant about my death even when it seems I've caught onto a very potential mafia pattern. Why? Oh, and sorry about making such a "waste" of my role. [smiley=roll.gif] Guess what? I thought about it a bit and decided it was a good move to make early today, so you're just going to have to face reality and deal with it. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] My PM implies that I get in flame wars quickly btw. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 10:37:36 This was good though. I'm going to quote it in all my posts from now until the EOD. Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 10:43:36 Seriously, as long as there is no counter claim we can consider the claim to be true imo, even if it hasn't been the best moment to claim shock...why did you want to claim today anyway? There isn't much of a sense to claim vig, you haven't been near to lynch or something anyway. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 10:54:56 1021243A3530400 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 10:58:07 765B45494E49402C0 wrote:
I'm not concerned about saving myself from a lynch. If I die, I'll be about as disappointed as any other living townie about a mislynch, but that's about it. Also, although this can work for both scum and town: early claim = more believable. I plan on using my other kill tonight anyway, and after that point I'm just another vanilla townie. Claiming right now provides insight for the town too. You guys can now go back and (hopefully) see that I'm posting without bias, and that gives lots of leads, especially if I die. I could go on and on. This claim gives the doctor if he's still alive the choice to obviously not angel me, as I'm going to be vanilla come tomorrow anyway, and if the mafia kill me they're only digging their own grave. I'll be fine without it, so his list of possible people to protect is shortened. This role claim was meant to clear confusion and let the town see me as a "cleared" townie too. I was probably going to be an attention magnet today, but I hope I've cleared a lot of unnecessary posts now. Finally, I wanted to be able to effectively bring my case against Goose, because I strongly believe he is a power (if not Godfather) mafia. Padz and Sword both put in huge font "DON'T KILL GOOES OR IQUIT" basically, which to be honest makes no sense if he's vanilla town. He messed up, can't get out of his situation no matter what he says now, spammed the thread, trolled, and if he flips mafia would give the town quite a few leads. I honestly think padz, Sword, Goose are the remaining mafia (if there are 5; Sword/Goose if there are 4) and are trying to muscle their way out of this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 10:58:50 Oops. Forgot this. Also, if anyone is handicapped in any way also speak up and tell us. If no one is then that would most likely indicate that Sportsguy was acting alone and there are no more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 11:02:23 If indeed Goose is Godfather and padz and Sword are mafia, I don't think the situation was desperate enough for such a ridiculous saving attempt. Although I'm extremely interested to hear from padz. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 11:07:49 One more thing. I'm pretty sure Goose said in there somewhere that he encouraged the scanner to scan him at night. I don't want to look through the mess of quotes to find it... I'm sure it's in there though; I recall him saying that just now. Also, if anyone is handicapped in any way also speak up and tell us. If no one is then that would most likely indicate that Sportsguy was acting alone and there are no more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 11:50:31 Re-reading. 44787F7D71634F665C100 wrote:
I can see Sword's reasoning a bit here, but padz, would you care to explain? I don't understand why you're so passionately defending Goose. Btw, I'm not handicapped today.[/quote] Wait you can see Sword's reasoning about not lynching Goose for 100% accuracy? He just outed himself as maf or cop imo. Goose is playing horrible, and I'd like a Goose lynch, but NStride is trying so hard to push the bandwagon onto Goose it's ridiculous. I'm not capped though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 11:53:22 imo it's pretty easy for mafia to jump on Goose right at the beginning if they're scum buddies, and ride out the wagon (if it happens) with little suspicion. Thing is, it was already decided he's under huge suspicion, so people like RDBU who really have nothing to say other than "he looks bad" with a vote look bad themsevles. I'm going to go back and look at D2, but Shock, didn't you give an entirely different reason for the vote/unvote when it first happened as opposed to what you said in that post? I could be wrong, but I"m going to go check first. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 11:54:13 6577707B7C73667D602326120 wrote:
I can see Sword's reasoning a bit here, but padz, would you care to explain? I don't understand why you're so passionately defending Goose. Btw, I'm not handicapped today.[/quote] Wait you can see Sword's reasoning about not lynching Goose for 100% accuracy? He just outed himself as maf or cop imo. Goose is playing horrible, and I'd like a Goose lynch, but NStride is trying so hard to push the bandwagon onto Goose it's ridiculous. I'm not capped though.[/quote] Realized this post sounds bad. What I meant is, this looks bad for TvL because of how he's outwardly defending Sword, yet saying padz doesn't look good, when they pretty much said the same thing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 11:58:30 5C53594457514853595858533D0 wrote:
So while claiming Town Vig, you are confident on pushing Goose, because if he does turn up town, then you realize that you're fucked over and aren't actually the town vig? This statement asking the town to vote Goose seems blatantly obvious to me. "Vote Goose, because if he's mafia then I'm vig, and if he isn't, then I'm maf." While I agree with most of the post, this strikes me as odd because he's saying that although Goose is very scummy, it's either him or Goose. Basically putting in the ultimatum that one of the two has to be maf, when that's not the case. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 12:14:33 Okay, you give me the verdict Web. I was first on KoopZ. When no one else was on him, I'm pretty sure my vote rested on him at the end of Day 1, and I kept trying to push KoopZ's lynch day 2 although I got little support there for a while. Why would I just not have bussed myself and kept my vote on Suprsilver? Why bus on KoopZ, and why was there no one else on my mafia team supporting me? Look at my playing as a whole Web. I've time and time again done things that would sound forced as mafia, and my playing should only make sense as town. I guess in this game my claims come across as I know what the outcome will be, but it's really just me pushing what I believe as fact a little too hard. [smiley=lolk.gif] I sure screwed up with SS. If Goose turns up mafia Web, you and the town can lynch me. At that point my death will carry the town to the win hopefully with so few mafia left and so much information left behind. If Goose turns up town... then chaos ensues. I think we should spend some time investigating what "chaos" this will mean into organized, "Most Likely Town" and "Most Likely Mafia" lists. Also, if anyone is handicapped in any way also speak up and tell us. If no one is then that would most likely indicate that Sportsguy was acting alone and there are no more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 12:40:21 I'm not the Godfather I wanted to be scanned because it's the only way to prove that I'm a townie at this point. I'm really sad because you're all wasting your time with these thoughts based on me being a mafia. At least you can analyze the D2 EOD wagons as well as all of D3 once I'm dead and hopefully figure out the rest of the game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 12:45:27 why would the cop come out at this point though. The thing is, if you're scanned and found to be town, the cop would have to come out and save you (which is maybe what Sword did). Then, N3 cop is dead, and we're screwed. So either way, I don't think cop should give their opinion. If they come out, either way they're dead by mafia, and it might just end up with you getting killed off as mafia, or "saved" even though you're pretty suspicious. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 12:46:24 5143444F48475249541712260 wrote:
Now that I think about it, I guess I forgot the angel/doc in this scenario. However, I still think it isn't a good idea for Cop to claim this early unless they have several mafia pinned, and in that sense my post still makes sense. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 12:50:00 Goose, what character are you then as vanilla town? If you're really town, maybe next time you could do us the favor of not lying and trolling the thread. What really caries it over for me right now is what KoopZ did last night. The faster you post the better btw. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 12:59:41 Oh cool. I see you online as I post that, I wait 10 seconds, read what I wrote, refresh the page, you're online, refresh it a few seconds later and you're offline. kk Goose. :-/ I'm sure you'll have the perfect one ready by the time you come back. Also, if anyone is handicapped in any way also speak up and tell us. If no one is then that would most likely indicate that Sportsguy was acting alone and there are no more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 13:01:43 Vote: Goose Wow. Can't believe I completely forgot about how KoopZ went from not voting Goose and stuck with SS. Would have been hilarious if the two main lynchees were maf yesterday. `Makes a lot of sense though. KoopZ knew SS was maf, so stuck with him because he would rather have gotten SS lynched than Goose. Until I get at least a half-decent explanation for that, this vote sticks. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 13:03:43 527A7A667027150 wrote:
You wanted to be scanned because it's the only way to prove that I'm a townie at this point. Dude. You have once again incriminated yourself. If you're a real vanilla townie, how about not asking to be scanned and letting the scanner perhaps not waste his night scan and go for a real scum. That's the WHOLE POINT OF SCANNING REALLY. NOT clearing townies, it's for finding mafia. If you are a townie at this point, you're really playing a terrible game. And still not playing up to par if you're maf. ;D All your posts today have been "boo-hoo don't kill me, I really hope we win though :'( :'( :'(" Oh spare me! [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 13:04:29 4557505B5C53465D400306320 wrote:
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY SEEING THIS AND PERHAPS UNDERSTANDING WHY I'M PUSHING HIS LYNCH SO HARD. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 13:05:49 I don't want to claim my character name because I think it's a form of angleshooting. And you're wrong about the seer. Clearing a townie is just as important as finding mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 13:10:18 3E2C2B2027283D263B787D490 wrote:
Now that I think about it, I guess I forgot the angel/doc in this scenario. However, I still think it isn't a good idea for Cop to claim this early unless they have several mafia pinned, and in that sense my post still makes sense.[/quote] Then answer this quote. Why would you want to be scanned as it potentially screws over the town with the doc having to protect a claimed cop to save you, a scummy looking townie? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 13:11:33 153D3D213760520 wrote:
Oh boy, that was a sneaky one. Well-played if it turns out you're mafia. Honko didn't say anything about it though I don't think. If you're concerned about not breaking the rules, how about not voting for yourself. [smiley=roll.gif] That was a weird stunt btw if you're townie and know the rules so well. Quote:
It's nice yes, but they should still be shooting for the mafia. If they miss, so what, they can clear another townie. What's the point of going for a self-proclaimed townie though? [smiley=lolk.gif] That's counterintuitive. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 13:15:29 Voting for myself made sense in that case because I'm a vanilla townie and my thought was that Supr might NOT be vanilla townie. Since I felt 100% he was townie, that meant he was more likely to be a townie power role than I was, so taking the bullet for him made sense from my point of view there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 13:16:10 http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/144/goose.png Also, if anyone is handicapped in any way also speak up and tell us. If no one is then that would most likely indicate that Sportsguy was acting alone and there are no more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 13:16:51 3D2F2823242B3E25387B7E4A0 wrote:
This is p much the most mafiaey post I've ever seen. First he says "it would be hilarious!" and then he votes me, implying that it WAS hilarious. The "hilarious" comment is just an attempt to appear townie.. and fail at doing so. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 13:19:19 Coming from the guy who said I was very townie from my response yesterday to your atrocious seer claim. ::). That, I find hilarious. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/25/11 at 13:20:33 Really nothing at all is getting done with this stupid banter. I think NStride and Goose are purposely posting mounds and mounds of posts to derail any real discussion. When you look at what they are saying there really isn't much content at all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 13:22:36 6B43435F491E2C0 wrote:
Now explain KoopZ's decision to not vote you. Finally, calling "angleshooting" on not calling the name you have as a proclaimed townie is very suspicious imo. You voted yourself, so this wouldn't really be an offense to the rules at all. I claimed, and I'm not dead, and Honko hasn't warned us not to do it. Probably more like accidentally picking a membername that a real townie actually has and not wanting to get yet another vote and case against you there with a due counterclaim. Yep, calling angleshooting was the best move for you there as a maf. Townie would've just come right out and said it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 13:26:33 56676E6E56636E67020 wrote:
U maf trying to derail US? I'm just solidifying my case against Goose. How about you stop whining and actually add some insight yourself dumbfuck. Who is likely town if Goose flips town? And who's likely Maf if Goose flips maf? Goose is the clear lynch for today. Let's get a head start on tomorrow by answering those questions. Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 13:28:08 5547404B4C43564D501316220 wrote:
I can see Sword's reasoning a bit here, but padz, would you care to explain? I don't understand why you're so passionately defending Goose. Btw, I'm not handicapped today.[/quote] Wait you can see Sword's reasoning about not lynching Goose for 100% accuracy? He just outed himself as maf or cop imo. Goose is playing horrible, and I'd like a Goose lynch, but NStride is trying so hard to push the bandwagon onto Goose it's ridiculous. I'm not capped though.[/quote] Realized this post sounds bad. What I meant is, this looks bad for TvL because of how he's outwardly defending Sword, yet saying padz doesn't look good, when they pretty much said the same thing. [/quote] I read Sword's comment as "I'll be out of town, I'm not convinced Goose is mafia, so I want him not lynched until I return", which makes some sense. But you're right, I might have read something that wasn't there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 13:41:26 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2LRROpph0[/media] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 13:47:55 Damn it Goose, I had a nice theory that put you in the town camp but you're ruining it. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/25/11 at 14:10:40 I'm off to bed. Tomorrow I hope to read from: - Ivo and Timothy. Especially Ivo's comments on Suprsilver being mafia. - padz and Sword. Why should we not vote Goose? - RDBU. Anything useful to add to your single post so far? But please don't make me read 15 pages again... [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 14:12:08 604848544215270 wrote:
Someone like a good player as yourself being cleared as vanilla town so that we can "trust" on your word. ... Goose is only digging himself a hole here and he wants as many people as possible to fall in -Nstride... goose is essentialy repeating the same crap and your making an argument based on that crap which means double the crap... either way your both bad for town imo... You claiming a role which can kill the last lyncher also puts some heat of your back, but it has set you up for a night kill :( no smart vig would do this day 3 unless they have really strong suspicions... May i point out that Sword is doing something similar to what you were doing EOD yesterday. The thing is... you have 15(ish) posts in the space of a few pages.... You, goose and weber were definetly leading the discussion... Has my method of play suddenly become good now for the town??? I dont think that it will ever be good for the town... IMO there are 3 most likely... Im basing it on whos lynch the town will most benefit from... at this rate it is easier to catch stupid players out... so as a tactical play... Vote: Nstride To Nstride... I hope the above is good enough reasoning for you and you get my idea... If you do nag me as to why... it wont work. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 14:12:22 How am I ruining it by making 1 spam post? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 14:24:56 6E46465A4C1B290 wrote:
To reply, or Not to reply... Reply. Its the constant "Im not mafia" speech... If you werent... you would say it once... Shut up... and move onto the next target. And what you are creating Nstride recreates by 1.5x in his case against you... so you are essentialy hurting the town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 14:26:16 If I was actually mafia, then I would have p much outed myself last night (which would never have happened because I would have bussed SuprSilver and shut up about it... ANYONE who read the elite/kart wolfchat knows how much I hated some of my teammates.) And today I would be trolling 1000x harder than I am now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Darius on 03/25/11 at 14:32:27 Why would any team have more than one handicapper? Surely handicapper was just Sportsguy's individual role, so either he had that and was also SK (I think this is unlikely) or that was just his PR as part of the Admin team (much more likely). People voting NStride: No-one has counterclaimed vig and his claim makes perfect sense with the hints he's been dropping. If he's lying about being you then he'd have to have been planning it since the start of the game. Claiming now is an unnecessary risk if he's mafia and his claim is going to sort itself out as the game goes on. He's not our lynch. 1D3535293F685A0 wrote:
This is the biggest load of nonsense I've ever heard. If you're town, you KNOW you're town. Despite all your conviction, as town vanilla you could never know that Supr was town, so taking a bullet for him makes no logical sense. You rant and rave about being a great player and how you can help town and then you're willing to throw yourself under the bus for a player who had barely contributed anything to the game basically because you thought he made a post that was 'too clever' for a 12 year old? You've spent all game spreading confusion, trolling players, attempting to lead the town with terrible logic and now you've gone into feeling sorry for yourself and stating you're not mafia every other post? Vote: Goose Convince me you're town with some good pro-town play instead of whining and saying 'I wouldn't have done this if I was mafia!' every 5 minutes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 14:33:08 6A656F7261677E656F6E6E650B0 wrote:
Honko didn't say anything about it though I don't think.[/quote] Honko is on public record (#mariokart) saying he doesn't believe angleshooting is an offense in any game, and says anything goes. I also specifically asked him about it at the start of this game (because it wasn't in the rules) and he confirmed angleshooting is in no way against the rules (as long as it doesn't break any other rules). 7A757F6271776E757F7E7E751B0 wrote:
Clearing a townie just gives the mafia an easy target for the next night's kill. Since they are cleared they have to die, and it takes away anything you would have been able to get based on that townie's reads so far, etc. They were killed for being cleared. This applies after a cop has died and his reads are picked up in the thread history and it also applies in situations where a cop claims. Scanning a mafia = win. 4D4A45401B1B122B0 wrote:
He won't be killed at night either, unless another side has a killing role. If he really is vig he should have left the bomb part out of it. Now that he is claimed, mafia will leave him alive, so he has to get a proven kill tonight and establish himself as town in EVERYONE'S eyes, or he's just going to be a mega distraction the rest of the game. We'll all be thinking "but what if Nstride is mafia" and eventually he'd be lynched if we ran out of other suspects. Personally, I see Shock as cleared town before any of the claim stuff happened. MVT doesn't. As a result he's going to be a big distraction. I'd even consider making a case for Nstride's claim to be true just for the fact that it would limit town self-confusion. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Darius on 03/25/11 at 14:36:59 Oh, and what's angleshooting? Does it mean trying to break the game? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 14:46:43 434C465B484E574C4647474C220 wrote:
He's been claiming MVT since here, but I had him pegged as MVT even before that ;) Darius: Basically shooting an angle meaning you're using some outside event or "lack of knowledge" to show why you're town or w/e. The time I asked Honko about it (I think) was when Shock posted sometime on Day 2 saying "Camster, ADMIN Handicapper" and I just brought it up because that is a form of angleshooting (light one, but effective) by showing he didn't know which team Camster was on, and which team Sportsguy was on, he's cleared himself as not on the ADMIN team, which at the time we thought could have been the mafia team. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 14:53:25 I've also been reading Shock as accusing KoopZ since this post: 28272D3023253C272D2C2C27490 wrote:
Yes, let's fight the wolf power brothers! Along with the good ol' "I won't be able to post again for a while." This whole post is also a reiteration of what's already been said, although it was given more effort to look like it had meat. Tack this on to his statement that I've said before about Supr's maf, end of story, and we have maf written all over this dude. [/quote] As I responded by asking him if that was a strong mafia read on KoopZ. In addition, check out the language KoopZ uses in that post toward Supr, seems that bus was in the works all day long! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 14:57:49 416969756334060 wrote:
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Fank nails 2 confirmed mafia Day 1. Discuss. (Supr's response) 7977693D0 wrote:
And how would you know? :-?[/quote] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 15:02:26 YES LETS ALL TRUST THE RNG NOW :D anyone with any money on games they want me to predict on??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 15:04:14 Rofl, can we please lynch RDBU instead of me today. If that spew I got out of fank isn't good enough as a villager then I don't know what else I can do. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 15:07:37 436B6B776136040 wrote:
How much are you willing to bet 3/3...??? I must be the luckiest/unluckiest man around here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 15:09:29 or you're a mafia who put 3 mafias in your D1 "random" list because no mafia would ever do that, and it was a brilliant attempt on your part to look like a lucky townie Lynching RDBU is the best way to resolve this If RDBU is mafia, then fank is mafia if RDBU is town, then I'm mafia pretty basic mafia strategy here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 15:09:38 The main point of all this digging is to see just how much of the whole "no way im on his team, look how we fought on day x, see these posts?" went on. Just between KoopZ and Supr there's quite a bit. It's really easy to look through all of Supr's posts in the game and see a strong trend to dissociate himself with KoopZ. Clearly the mafia has set up this type of behavior early in the game and we can look for other instances already :) Since Page 2 I've read goose/fank as playing off each other in the same way KoopZ/Supr did. For everyone's benefit, the easiest way to review the topic is by going to the print link: http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=print;num=1300464014 Which displays the entire topic in one page. Then you can just use the Find function of your browser to see every post a player made. Seriously just give it a try with "post by suprsilver" and see what comes up. You'll be surprised. Go ahead and look at the KoopZ posts as well. Come back and share what you make of it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 15:12:37 705858445205370 wrote:
1C26013D342114123A3A31013D3C3B32550 wrote:
3136393C67676E570 wrote:
Fank nails 2 confirmed mafia Day 1. Discuss. (Supr's response) 7977693D0 wrote:
And how would you know? :-?[/quote] [/quote] I think the quote by ss should confirm im not on his team... (Dont know bout the 3/3 though) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 15:15:37 48725569607540466E6E655569686F66010 wrote:
Thats some good insight there scott. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/25/11 at 15:17:53 ^^Well, that puts the nail in Goose' coffin. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 15:19:49 Hey Scott... what is your take on me now? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 15:28:19 767866320 wrote:
Too much of the same names appearing in the same webs. Too much of Goose and KoopZ having opposing viewpoints. 56515E5B000009300 wrote:
If I were the angel, I still wouldn't protect you at night. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/25/11 at 15:33:28 Man this really pisses me off. 10252123280B2132342532400 wrote:
So you show up to say "can't lynch me, everyone else just proved I"m innocent." Do you realize how horrible of a game you're playing? Dinner, bbl. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 15:36:48 Having a look at the posts... there are several times in which SS tries to point me out as maf. Quote:
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^hmmm... why direct it at sword??? might be missing something here. Quote:
^ definetly not good on my behalf since HE and koopz have flipped maf... also a white lie concerning my reasonings. Quote:
Hmmm. Strange he puts me... along with Koopz and RDBU... (3/3 possible???) Lets just say this... If RDBU flips maf... I want your ideas if RDBU flips Maf??? Maybe me being mafwill give goose a day to be good with the town so he can win the game by himself. But a majority of SS post are saying that IM maf... Honestly The maf cant be that stupid to try and let goose win by his own??? I think the best vote for the town... (and me :P) would be to vote goose. UnVote Vote: Goose I have already given my reasons to vote goose of earlier. (day 1, day2 and a little bit more today) BTW scott... I agree with your Viewpoint. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 15:39:34 My character name is Flo1 (LOL) just saw Scott's post about Honko not caring about angleshooting and it rhymes true with a PM exchange him and I had a couple days ago. I dunno what this information proves or suggests. If anything, a remaining mafia member's character name is probably Goose and what are the odds of being matched up with your own character name? Someone already was... what are the odds of it happening twice? Next to impossible surely. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 15:42:07 1931312D3B6C5E0 wrote:
The odds are similar to my 3/3 with the maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 15:51:14 725A5A465007350 wrote:
Asking what happens if you vote yourself, right? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 15:52:10 No apologizing for any trouble I had caused on D2 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/25/11 at 16:20:27 Votals [6] Goose - NStride, Scott, RDBU, (RVZ), Web, Darius, fank [1] NStride - MVT, (fank) Day ends in 26 hours or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 16:22:46 From now on you should include postals with your votals. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/25/11 at 16:38:44 fight the wolf power brother! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 16:52:28 bah, I'm the seer >_< |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 16:54:32 ^that's a joke for those who didn't play the elite/kart game consider it meaningless |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/25/11 at 17:01:31 http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/texplainthejoke.jpg |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 17:14:21 Honestly, I think goose is Town. Here's why I think he is: 1. Mainly because he tried to save Silver so hard. It was really risky to do that if he was Mafia, where it would have been so much easier to lynch him and look good after it. But he risks the maximum and tries to save him and nearly ends up as lynched. I think Koopz was really scared to switch his vote, because if goose came back Town, he would be looking so much worse than when he just voted Silver off. 2. 123A3A263067550 wrote:
He has that attitude since we found out that Silver is Mafia. I think he for himself has figured out that he fucked up and that his lynch is just a matter of time. I believe that he in a way even wants to get lynched to save us from lynching a possible Power role. Which basically is stupid, because we should try to lynch Mafia and not Townies in any case. goose, I know you could do more than you do at the moment, so come out with it now. Which are your current Mafia leans? You haven't told us for a while now I think. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/25/11 at 17:34:16 4B7770727E6C4069531F0 wrote:
TvL's posts made all sense today, and I really like the persons he wants to hear something from. The only person missing there is Matt V imo. The "Don't make me read 15 pages again" sounds also Townish to me, because someone who was trying to look like Mafia would probably leave that out or say "I want to read very much of you, at least 15 pages". I know I'm exaggerating with that, but I hope you see my point. I'll go to sleep as well now, we'll se how things turn out tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/25/11 at 17:43:42 timur is maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 17:56:35 7F524C40474049250 wrote:
He has that attitude since we found out that Silver is Mafia. I think he for himself has figured out that he fucked up and that his lynch is just a matter of time. I believe that he in a way even wants to get lynched to save us from lynching a possible Power role. Which basically is stupid, because we should try to lynch Mafia and not Townies in any case. goose, I know you could do more than you do at the moment, so come out with it now. Which are your current Mafia leans? You haven't told us for a while now I think.[/quote] I agree with you... he could be townie who messed up... But... No... History cant repeat can it?... People who are as good as screwed (regardless of alignment) -Goose (Defence of SS) -Fank (2/3 of the list proved maf... need i say more.) -RDBU (No. 3 on the list... depending on what Fank flips. -Padz ("Save Goose" nuff said) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 18:22:31 Quote:
Found this in the printout page with a search for jimbo. (trying to find where I think Goose directly quoted a guy "jimboisgay" who said "fight the wolf power brothers!" And I was interested in clicking it to see the original. It failed though because the printout fails at maintaining people's names in quotes. >.<) Anyway. ::) Seems like you're pretty confident in your abilities to sway the beliefs and decisions of the players Goose. > Let's see if I can save Supr by bringing X case to the table, and push it hard; I'll influence town "for the better" > Oshit how the fuck did I become the secondary pick for lynch?! That wasn't supposed to happen. > Let's get Sword out here and try both a hard TvL and RDBU push. > Both attempts fail largely due to inactivity > KoopZ incriminates himself and suggests a strong possibility that Goose would be the worse of the two lynches for the mafia. > KoopZ dies; Zarkov dies > Somewhere in the middle or before all this Goose asks for a scan, knowing that he will come back Vanilla Town. > Goose today leaps on Scott's quotes in regards to RDBU. Suprsilver: RDBU, KoopZ, fank are maf. fank: Suprsilver, KoopZ, RDBU are maf. Goose remains detached largely from fank. > padz, Sword: DO NOT LYNCH GOOSE YOU MORONS. Timur: Goose is probably town. padz: timur is maf. > fank: omggooseismafnowaitit'sshocknowaitwhatthefuckisthepopularmovebettergetonitandparrotMVT. RDBU is townlean atm for me because of bullet 3. Also lol at Goose earlier pleading for "can we just lynch RDBU today instead?" a while back. That's a summary of what's happened from my perspective... rather pointless I guess but I'm bored. If you flip town Goose... >.< fank: how does it feel knowing that you will die for sure tonight? Do you feel like you played a good game? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/25/11 at 18:25:40 Btw Timur KoopZ shouldn't have been scared to switch his vote. If he didn't (which was the case) he would look pretty mafia for not buying the town time. We were basically all like "Switch your vote OMG OMG OMG GAIN US SUM TIME!" You ignore that, you're maf. He definitely should have been quick to move if Goose was really town. They could have prevented the Silver lynch and gotten rid of a good town player potentially. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 18:49:24 @nstride... I reckon I have the played the game to the best of my ability considering my screw up at the beginning. People thought something of me so i reckon that was the best way to play. My stance on you i do have to wait... The thing is... we probably think each other as maf... (my stand is based on Day 2 conversation.) And our stance wont change unless the other dies 1st. If what you say is true... and you only have 1 kill left... Do what you want of it... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/25/11 at 19:11:36 4649435E4D4B524943424249270 wrote:
This is what you were looking for: 12280F333A2F1A1C34343F0F3332353C5B0 wrote:
Laughing so hard. Seriously. If this gives me a stroke you're at fault. 092A2E212C430 wrote:
You're really something else.[/quote] It's from the Elite/Kart game. Jimbo was mafia and made this post: http://scott.thengamer.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1290033759/600#600 And it's been made fun of as the worst post by a mafia member of all time. During that same game, on Day 1, Jimbo was the lead candidate for a lynch, but somehow the tide shifted to Drag who was lynched. Jimbo died soon after, however. Goose was also on Jimbo's team, and in the two following posts by Goose, he attacked Jim heavily and advocated the people in the game to vote Jimbo. Also he called him an idiot, stupid, and claimed no town player would say that line, etc. Check it out yourself if you like. This is the exact type of play I've been feeling from Goose all game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 19:25:07 Your right scott. we do need to get rid of goose asap. Wait goose... you havent given any real reason to go for anyone else... you giving up or something??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 22:17:00 People who I really doubt are mafia 5. Matt V 6. MVT 8. padz 16. Zwiebel Maybe are, maybe aren't 1. Darius 4. Ivo 10. RVZ 11. Scott 12. Sword 13. Tim 14. TvL 15. Web People who I really think are mafia 7. NStride 9. RDBU 2. fank |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/25/11 at 22:19:25 I do think there is 1 admin left and 2-3 mafia left as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/25/11 at 23:07:26 577F7F637522100 wrote:
Elementary my dear Watson. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 02:33:55 What is up with all the lurkers... You still reading??? ???!!!??? YOURE STILL READING ???!!!??? anyway... when you guys get to a reading age of 21... and you have caught up... I would like some insight on who you think is Maf. (and why please) (Note to Goose... We know your opinion... I think... but i will still extend the invitation... besides... how else am i going to get the 17 posts i need to get the double ton before i die without spamming.? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 02:59:52 Oh yeah, it's a commonly accepted fact that when the thread goes quiet for a long period of time, it's usually the mafia who stop posting because they are happy with the lynch. This helps show that I'm a townie and the quiet people (Timothy, RVZ, TvL, etc) might be mafia. We haven't heard from Matt V in a while either so that's worrying me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 03:01:21 033F383A362408211B570 wrote:
Thank you all!! But really, just two pages in twelve hours? I'm picking up more and more maf vibes from Goose, but I'm not ready to jump on the train yet. Goose might get lynched before the day is over, but I don't want it to end too quickly. First, I'd like to hear Ivo's (new) views on Goose, in light of his day 2 misread of Suprsilver (and of me as well :P). Where are you Ivo? I also want to wait for Sword's return (he said he'd be back in the second half of the day), so he can explain this: 36535253620 wrote:
Similarly: 5C6D6876797C0C0 wrote:
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padz! Explain yourself!! I'm also increasingly suspicious of RDBU. Here are his two posts from today: 655054565D7E5447415047350 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 03:06:33 Thanks TVL... padz i believe is a lovers scenario between goose and him... but that throws the godfather idea out the window... Anything else worth mentioning tvl? yep... Just two pages... I AM DISSAPOINT :'( [smiley=uzi.gif] to whoever aint posting [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 03:13:52 Goose + padz + Sword = mafia is too obvious. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 03:15:39 yeah... thats the thing though... is it really that easy for the town... that they fall over like dominos??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 03:23:37 Although having said that, I don't know what the deal is with those three. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 03:26:08 sword may be cop... day 2 EOD rally with him gives evidence... Day 3 gives more evidence... Just an idea though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 04:54:30 29262C3122243D262C2D2D26480 wrote:
Well, after knowing that Koopz is Maf, it looks very obvious. But think of it: He probably thought that he would look really good for not switching his vote when he had the opportunity to and Silver coming back Maf. So he probably has ignored the possibility of switching to show that he is Town(which didn't work in the end). If I was vig, I don't know if I would have been that sure to shoot him. You had a good guess on that, I'd probably have killed fank. I'd really like to hear why padz and Sword think that goose is Town, I stated my point of view already. Aside from Ivo and Matt V not having a single post today, I'm also disappointed from Darius, I can't remember much of him today, i'd even say he could be trying to stay under the radar. I expected more of him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 05:24:36 635C45455E404F592A0 wrote:
More complaining litterary about nothing! Fact is, every TOWN player has a list in his head, there's just some players that you trust more and some that you trust less, and they change all the time. It's fine to post such a list, and post a totally different list later on. But why do i think this is suspicious? Well, it's a typical thing i did wrong when i was mafia, just complaining about other peoples "mind changing" I've also seen it plenty of other mafia's do. In general, it's also a strong way to lynch "inconsistent" players, as town will often believe it as a strong town read on a mafia. While in fact, it's the other way around. Besides that, darius other posts were really poor, normally he adds way more in his posts, and except for his attention on suprsilver, he basicly said nothing about anyone. You maf?[/quote] Just found this post by Ivo. I'm not a fan of Ivo's game so far, but I pretty much like that post. I don't agree with everything in it, but this basically is the way I see Darius this game. Posting things which could appear good, but very unfrequently and staying under the radar. Since no one is online, I guess I'll just look back more and try to find some posts we can get something out of ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 05:57:00 I've looked at RDBU's posts. Basically he spent day 1 and 2 switching between fank and Suprsilver, giving reasons that were already mentioned. Now started day 3 by jumping onto the hot target (Goose) as well. Bad townie? I also noticed that in Ivo's mafia game (where he was town) he was spreading his votes over a lot more people. What makes him so narrow visioned now? Does he know something town doesn't know? Also, consider the fact that while he is going for the easy targets, he didn't go after J-Cop on day 1. It makes sense if you assume he and fank are mafia; he saw that both his maf buddies fank and Suprsilver were under a lot of pressure on day 1, and he was looking to make the most of it by accusing them both, thus looking townish when either one would get lynched and the identity revealed. He didn't go after J-Cop because he knew he was town and he would've looked bad. In the meantime: Vote: padz padz, can I have your attention? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 05:59:40 3037383D66666F560 wrote:
Yeah I seriously doubt all three of them are mafia. There's at least one player who a bunch of people think look towny that is hiding in the shadows liking the fact they aren't in the spotlight. I'd look for that player (or players) to not be saying anything at this point. Goose is lynched, and the fact that he looks badly like scum makes me think that mafia would be one of the early lynches or the really late lynches, depending on if they think they can save him or not. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 06:18:51 456073687472010 wrote:
After that post, I switched my vote to Super because I said I'd lynch Super over J-Cop/fank as well. Then this: 5C796A716D6B180 wrote:
Wtf, you said you want to lynch Super because you're convinced he is scum. Then I say I'd be ready to set up a silver lynch as well and you say "Your reasoning is poor, I'll go for J-Cop instead". Seriously, if you were convinced that Super was Mafia, you'd have stayed there as a Townie. Maybe you knew that Silver was Mafia, and when you saw that there actually were some others who wanted to lynch him as well, you jump to J-Cop so that he can survive at least 1 more day? I don't know why I haven't thought over this earlier. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 06:53:39 26212E2B707079400 wrote:
Sorry but that makes no sense whatsoever. I'm trying to let you speak but when you say things that are blatantly untrue then I am going to call you out on it. What you said there implies that sword scanned suprsilver, found out he was maf, and then tried the push the vote off of him...makes no sense. Please think before you ramble bullshit. I actually believe either sword or padz to be a cop and maybe it's best we don't know which one for the sake of the night. However what you said doesn't make any sense as a reason. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 06:59:42 407C7B7975674B6258140 wrote:
Ya I don't understand RBDU at all. I think he is just a really big n00b no matter what his role is. He doesn't bring anything to the table. He said he thought I was scum, but followed it up with no evidence or reasoning. I'm fine with people bringing up cases against anyone. Hell if he called me out again I wouldn't mind and would defend myself. However the central theme here is that no matter who RDBU puts pressure on, he never backs up his votes or suspicions with reasoning. That is such a shame as a town player. As a maf player, it's great strategy if we let him keep doing it unchecked. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 07:28:04 scum: scott web darius shock rdbu fank |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 07:38:03 023336282722520 wrote:
What about timur? 0435302E2124540 wrote:
You aren't really helping us with these lists padz, even though they are simply just the people who are voting Goose. Why you are still playing with the 1 liners at Day 3, I don't know. Pick it up kid! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 07:49:40 Hey padz, nice to see you online. I've got just a quick question for you: 5C6D6876797C0C0 wrote:
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Can you please explain why you've made these posts? Thanks in advance. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 07:56:41 0528363A3D3A335F0 wrote:
timur is either maf poorly defending goose or maf superbly framing goose vote Zwiebel |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 07:58:32 tvl: goose is the best player in the game. why anyone would lynch him before final 5 is beyond me |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 08:26:09 Votals [6] Goose - NStride, Scott, RDBU, (RVZ), Web, Darius, fank [1] Zwiebel - padz [1] padz - TvL [1] NStride - MVT, (fank) Day ends in 9.5 hours or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Ivootjes on 03/26/11 at 08:54:30 I'm sorry for inactivity guys, have been realy busy past 2 days. Not been at home at all. Posting on my phone right now. I think i'll be on tonight for the last few hours |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 08:55:30 padz, I'm defending goose because I think he's Town. I know that I don't have much evidence aside from the things I already mentioned, but I have that gut feeling that he is Town. I haven't played any game with him until now, so maybe others can read more out of him. Anyway, does no one think that Darius plays a strange game so far? The day isn't going that long anymore, and it seems like nearly everyone would be ready to lynch goose. It would give us many information without a doubt, but I'd prefer lynching someone else today. And since I have my biggest doubts on Darius at the moment, I will keep my vote on him for now. Vote Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 08:56:19 122326383732420 wrote:
That's probably another reason why he was willing to pull so hard for Suprsilver. I'm voting Goose because I am 99% convinced he is scum. I'll bbl, going to see a movie. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 09:01:41 unvote 656A607D6E68716A6061616A040 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 09:07:29 444B415C4F49504B4140404B250 wrote:
<shock> look @ my framing job its air TITE |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 09:13:17 4D42485546405942484949422C0 wrote:
Yes you would, so you could say this![/quote] shock apparently likes stealing my retorts |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 09:27:35 222D273A292F362D2726262D430 wrote:
ok so this was shock's last post. what about his other posts? 68676D7063657C676D6C6C67090 wrote:
Does anyone else agree with this? Why would he vote someone he scanned and came up innocent? That makes 0% sense, probably even a negative percent. I'm really looking forward to see how he tries to talk his way out of that. ~Goose's voting history~ fank009 unvote SuprSilver unvote fank009 Vote not counted: ~fank009 unvote Resident [/quote] I had a vote on Suprsilver at that point; he was my first vote of the day. I was pressuring Goose as to why we should not vote him off, and he went off the deep end: unvoting, then voting Suprsilver, then he sent the thread into chaos, and now he's claimed cop.[/quote] 5E515B4655534A515B5A5A513F0 wrote:
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emphasis his, not mine these are the only posts he made w/ names being either the first word or highlighted. what shock has done here is post the entire scumteam to back up his claim w/ whichever mate died that night! i bet @ the time of the supr highlight he was fully expecting to get goose lynched and predicted that vig would prolly pick off supr. the roleclaim in itself is bogus which is why he saw it fit to leave a trail of 'clues' in the first place. what kind of fucking role is a doublepower w/ post restriction? nobody else has anything similar. how did scott predict you were mvt? why are you trying so hard to prove that admin is an independent role? are you liem? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 09:37:49 635257494643330 wrote:
Goose is the best player? Have you been following this topic at all? :-? 01646564550 wrote:
Sword, hurry back! I'd like to know from you why you agree with padz. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 09:38:55 023336282722520 wrote:
It was pretty easy after the way he responded when I asked why he was so abrasive. A few posts later after I pushed more, he posted MVT's sig image "Haters Gonna Hate" and after that I knew for sure. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 09:40:48 5A6661636F7D5178420E0 wrote:
Goose is the best player? Have you been following this topic at all? :-?[/quote] have you read any previous games? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 09:58:33 scott, i was asking shock. thanks for repeating your excuse though! please continue to softdefend shock lest town actually starts to think for themselves. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 10:24:38 I've got my own thoughts on Shock... Padz, think about his claim as a whole and decide what side he's *really* told us he's on with it. Doesn't seem to be mafia, but if he's town why would he throw in the bomb part? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 10:33:18 About time you boys start thinking my way Scott and Padz. http://api.ning.com/files/fviICY6UbfQ0VochCQxfgHm2IMfH1LK2Z4vVr5EItKRoAiTY3M0INmuFzAhsXqsGM6PmI8Jx37zyd1zlMVqITkgC-R18gUWo/SmileyFace_ThumbsUp.jpg |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 11:22:02 Votals [6] Goose - NStride, Scott, RDBU, (RVZ), Web, Darius, fank [2] NStride - MVT, (fank), padz [1] Darius - Zwiebel [1] padz - TvL [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 6.5 hours or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 11:32:30 vote: NStride an RDBU wagon would be nice too, I have no idea how this guy keeps slipping under the radar |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 11:32:31 6A554C4C57494650230 wrote:
hurry up ivo, not much time left to save the game |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 12:12:54 Padz is probably seer, so if you're the doctor protect him tonight. It would explain why he's going so hard for me. Goose is scum. Look at him go hard for a different lynch once he sees padz go for me. It pretty much follows that Sword is maf. Guys, I can prove myself vig if you let me live through the rest of the day. Who do you want me to kill if Goose flips maf? Flips town? Unless I'm roleblocked, I'll do it. Think for yourself guys; don't go by mob mentality here. That's what the mafia will want, especially if Goose has a power role. If you guys still decide to lynch me, fine. I've done all I can. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 12:15:47 48474D5043455C474D4C4C47290 wrote:
That idea really doesn't work. I've seen it played before many times and it's too easy to just claim you were roleblocked just to live another day. [smiley=chairshot.gif] You're going to have to do better than that. Also if we are going to go through with this lynch I recommend a vanilla town place the last vote just in case this idiot is actually what he says he is. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 12:16:38 goose should place the last vote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 12:19:07 If he's mafia he'll just remove it at the last second and take down another townie before he dies. If we can get everyone to unvote though and have him put the sole vote on me, that sounds good. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 12:19:19 0031342A2520500 wrote:
I agree. That would also tell us a lot about Goose and answer any questions regarding him. I think this is the perfect plan to satisfy everyone. It's better than lynching Goose because if he is maf and knows shock is town there is no way he would go through with placing the vote. So we find out Goose's identity without lynching him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 12:21:28 46777E7E46737E77120 wrote:
I agree. That would also tell us a lot about Goose and answer any questions regarding him. I think this is the perfect plan to satisfy everyone. It's better than lynching Goose because if he is maf and knows shock is town there is no way he would go through with placing the vote. So we find out Goose's identity without lynching him.[/quote] Let's do it. Only downside to this that I see is that fank won't die. Unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 12:36:09 I'm not sure I fully understand this idea, and I'm not sure I like it. What if both Shock and Goose are town? I think this is not unlikely. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 12:40:13 i really think this will only work if goose is the only one voting, otherwise he could just throw his vote infront of whoever he wants to die with him (i.e. giving hiM a strategical bonus) if he really Is mafia. if he's the only one voting, it wiLL leave him trapped if he's mafia. if you're an active player and want to carry out this plan, unvote. btw to the seER: don't forget about that one role that has to do with a common American last name. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 12:42:15 what do you think youre trying to accomplish? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 12:42:39 unvote Just tell me what to do. I don't think mafias are stupid enough to claim Padz is the seer like NStride just did, so that really makes me only want to vote RDBU right now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 12:43:33 774B4C4E42507C556F230 wrote:
I'm willing to put myself on the choppingblock though because I am willing to bet that Goose is mafia. If he turns up town, he's played a terrible game. [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 12:44:09 ^ But both you and Goose will die then, right? EDIT: answered by above post |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 12:48:51 how did he play a worse game if he was town? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 12:50:27 Votals [5] Goose - (NStride), Scott, RDBU, (RVZ), Web, Darius, fank [2] NStride - MVT, (fank), padz, (Goose) [1] Darius - Zwiebel [1] padz - TvL [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 5 hours or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 12:52:46 5E6F6A747B7E0E0 wrote:
He's getting himself killed and we've wasted a day arguing about him then, rather than going for real mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 13:12:58 his role doesnt change the fact that we're still wasting time on him. you're dead-set on ruining my strat so let's try something different unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 13:15:31 7579796665627364160 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 13:36:49 I will vote thefank or RDBU. I feel they are both good lynches with high probability to be mafia I will be around all night, so just consider my vote to be on one of them. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 13:47:16 What happened to the plan of Goose voting Shock? I'm not sure I like/dislike it yet, but at least let's discuss it. Unvote for now |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 13:48:22 tvl, there is nothing to discuss. shock cannot keep his mouth shut and ruined everything. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 13:52:03 also the entire list debacle was rife w/ fank dissoc. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 13:58:56 3F303A2734322B303A3B3B305E0 wrote:
I don't buy that at all. It would work fine. Padz I don't get why you wouldn't want to go through with this plan? Anyway I said Day 2 that I would not remove my vote from NStride the whole day 3 if I made it. I'm going to keep my word. I really think he is maf. And we would get to find out what Goose is. It seems now he is quick to back away from the idea. What a bunch of bs. I'm done with this shit today. Some people are really fucking stupid and are playing like dumbasses this game. We finally get a sensible plan in place and then quickly give up on it. So now I don't really give a damn. No one is using any reason so I am going to stubbornly keep my vote right where has been. A great plan goes down the drain because padz is impatient and seems suddenly scared of NStride. Goose is just sitting back laughing as he gets to go another day free. Padz and Sword are running the show so I'll let them carry on. No one has listened to any of my advice this game. Fuck off. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 14:15:59 mvt im mad that shock claimed miller like a retard |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 14:22:17 fuck it, theres no way that honko would give anyone a post restriction on top of vig miller hater bomb vote NStride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 14:35:04 Votals [5] Goose - (NStride), Scott, RDBU, (RVZ), Web, Darius, fank [1] fank - padz [1] NStride - MVT, (fank), (padz), (Goose) [1] Darius - Zwiebel [0] padz - (TvL) [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 3.5 hours or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 14:37:23 7746435D5257270 wrote:
That would seriously be wtf. I also read out of Shock's post that he basically is claiming Miller, that really is unbelievable. I have to say I really fell for his vig claim, but I think that role really would be ridiculous. I'd also agree with goose making the final vote...I'm not feeling good for letting go of Darius and all the others who stay under the radar, but this just can't be true. Vote Nstride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 14:38:17 lol forgot to unvote unvote Vote NStride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 14:44:09 If there's another vig out there, now's really the time to claim. :-/ Are you trying to encourage a mob mentality here Zwiebel? What you're doing is a terrible bandwagon move, just for the record if I die and the truth is revealed. You also haven't had a vote on Goose all day and defended him. "i'd also agree with having goose take final vote" Nice bus. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 14:46:23 242B213C2F29302B2120202B450 wrote:
Guess I don't follow why. Fill me in. I'm lost. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 14:46:25 5C53594457514853595858533D0 wrote:
fishing for vig claim on the way out?! unvote vote NStride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 14:49:46 Two people haven't even posted this whole cycle. Wonder if they'll be modkilled. Rule six explicitly states you must post multiple times per day. Ivo has also only posted once, so he falls into the same category. >:( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 14:53:41 I agree with goose making the final vote because I'm not sure anymore you actually are a bomb and at this point I seriously doubt anyone besides me thinks goose is town. With voting you he clears himself and there's the possibility that you were just lying about being a bomb, just to not get lynched. So I still stand for my point that goose is Town. Of course I would like someone else like Darius to make the final blow, but there's no one fucking even reading my posts I have the feeling. Shock, you really want us to believe that you are Vig+Miller+Bomb+post restriction? That's just as probable as a role vig+seer. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 14:56:25 vote: Nstride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 14:57:16 sorry unvote what exactly do people want me to do with voting last? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 14:59:27 19230438312411173F3F340438393E37500 wrote:
Matt V does deserve to get modkilled if he doesn't say anything today, seriously. He has done nothing in this game until now. Wouldn't be too bad if we get rid of him, he's not doing ANYTHING for Town with that shit, just helping Mafia. Ivo said that he is going to be here EOD so I guess he'll show up soon, and he has done something for this game at least already. Can't believe this game is so full of people not posting or just posting bullshit like Fank or RDBU. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 15:00:33 7746435D5257270 wrote:
fishing for vig claim on the way out?! unvote vote NStride [/quote] I assume you see the double-take there. I probably would have consulted my maf buds and asked if that would be a good move, "fishing for another vig" No. I was pointing out that, if you look at the kills, it's still obvious that I killed KoopZ and there was no vig kill like I said and claimed on night one. Fank should have died, the doctor would not have protected him, and I'm still claiming the person responsible for that is me. I pulled a Goose there to see who would go along with the flow (likely maf) and caught Zwiebel. The idea MVT presented is not working. Based on what KoopZ did last night I'm still convinced Goose is maf (worse of the two kills). It just doesn't make sense: the mafia would have gladly gone for a potential Goose kill if he were really town. He'd be a great one to have out the door. Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 15:05:25 537E606C6B6C65090 wrote:
Just like all the townies out here (I think), I don't have a post restriction. I thought I did when I first read my PM and started acting like it, but Honko PMed me again and cleared it up. I thought acting like MVT though was a good way to hint the role, and based on how I posted elsewhere I decided it was a good plan to continue with it anyway. Now it's probably going to kill me. If I die, whoever votes last on me, be vanilla town. (Goose, you should have no problem doing this then.) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 15:08:10 at that point koopz didnt really think he was that sus. it would have been terrible. goose was framed. this shit ends here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 15:13:49 6B51764A435663654D4D46764A4B4C45220 wrote:
Scott had to call out KoopZ. He was happy to just lurk and watch SS die. There was no need for him to post until after this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 15:16:45 Btw, being first on that list I'm pretty sure means most recent page refresh. KoopZ had been there a long while. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 15:18:19 So you're still claiming to be Vig+Miller+Bomb? I don't know what to think anymore, seriously. I have never heard of a role that contains so much, but on the other hand, how should one come to think to claim such a role if it wasn't actually true? unvote I have to think about this some more, I haven't much time left to decide because I'll go to sleep soon. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 15:20:20 fucking timur is maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 15:24:52 4B66787473747D110 wrote:
Yes. I actually lol'd when I got the PM though, because I said pre-game that a role like "tripleshot doublebomb mafia godfather" or some random shit like that was probably illustration purposes only in Honkos sign up thread. Ah Karma.. ::) Modified to remove bold |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 15:25:35 49787D636C69190 wrote:
I'm glad we agree on something. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 15:28:26 Care to explain why? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 15:33:57 Votals [6] Goose - (NStride), Scott, RDBU, (RVZ), Web, Darius, fank, NStride [2] NStride - MVT, (fank), (padz), (Goose), (Zwiebel), padz, (Goose) [0] fank - (padz) [0] Darius - (Zwiebel) [0] padz - (TvL) [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 2.5 hours or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 15:36:25 6D405E5255525B370 wrote:
That's what KoopZ said when I had the vote on him early. Like, word for word. You're just going with the wind. You bend to the sway of the votes and observations. On top of that.. Quote:
Encouraging modkills is very mafiaey. I did the same when I was scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 15:36:55 ... im really confused on what to do now... Ill add additional insight later. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 15:54:32 there really is no later fank. shock if yr legit youd do good to kill fank tonight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 15:57:45 5E515B4655534A515B5A5A513F0 wrote:
That's what KoopZ said when I had the vote on him early. Like, word for word. You're just going with the wind. You bend to the sway of the votes and observations. On top of that.. Quote:
Encouraging modkills is very mafiaey. I did the same when I was scum.[/quote] Yeah, I'm going with the wind. Like I was jumping on any bandwagon without reasoning it. Also, everyone who is not confused by all this claim shit and stuff is Mafia, it's just natural to think that a Vig+Bomb+Miller+Post restriction is not possible. I mean, you could have mentioned earlier that you in fact don't have a post restriction, why did you lie to us in the first place? You could have told us after getting the PM from Honko. The added post restriction was much more strange than the other stuff already, because of what you said by yourself: It doesn't seem like anyone has a post restriction. So such a role and a post restriction? This would be ridiculous, as I said earlier. Also about Matt V, I don't get why players sign up for such games and then don't participate. It probably was a bit harsh to say that he should get modkilled, but I just want him to speak up, it's just so frustrating when you have no idea about a player because someone isn't saying anything. It shouldn't be too hard to come online for one little while in 48 hours. He could be doing it on purpose, but then he's Maf and even if it's a modkill, it would help the Town. I mean, how are you supposed to get some material to find something out about that person when that person's not saying anything? I said I wanted to go after the lurkers today, and I couldn't because they posted nothing. RDBU had his normal 4 or 5 useless posts, fank is just going mad as everyday(at least he isn't posting 200 posts per day anymore) and Matt V doesn't feel like participating anymore. Can't there be a single game without such persons? I hope you can see why I'm so mad at Matt. Besides, my opinion on that case doesn't change the fact that Honko will decide that anyway, so I don't think it's such a harm in saying that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 16:01:13 Lol, I forgot about Tim. He at least did post some things the other days, but he has no single post today as well. This is such a bullshit, it just feels like lynching everyone stupid and silent until the game can really begin. This is not what Mafia should be, seriously. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 16:01:25 I'm really bothered that people cannot execute such a simple plan. So much voting and unvoting going on right now it looks awful. It's really so simple. We place 7 votes on NStride, Goose makes the 8th vote. If Goose refuses to do so then we know he is maf and shock is not on his team. If he does place the vote then hopefully, and based on Shock's ridiculous changing of what his role really is the last few pages, he flips maf. The case against shock is simple. He pushed hard against the supr lynch. His role seems impossible, claims to be me vig bomb with a post restriction (now he changes his mind for some reason, makes no sense why he would have faked it in the first place) and he has even hinted at being a miller. Sorry but even Honko isn't that crazy to make a vig bomb miller with a post restriction(?) . He also keeps trying to guide people into thinking that for sure admin=sk, and I'm having a hard time buying it. The name Handicapper just doesn't seem like SK to me. I could be wrong on this part, but everything else still points to Shock not being on town's team. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 16:02:43 ... Nstride... I see you bluffing... about something... whether it be vig or bomb the only way to tell is to lynch you... Goose, if you want to prove your town cast the last vote on Nstride. Your refusal to do so means that you are not worried about the town at all and that you are scum... The Q is... which lynch is more meaningful??? Seeing that Nstride is screwed anyway... Im still going to wait... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 16:02:40 If town can't execute this fucking easy plan then there really is no hope to win this game. It should not at all be hard to properly pull off. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 16:06:05 072C2B372A450 wrote:
I really would not be surprised if all remaining mafia are in this group. They have a perfect excuse to vote me in that I defended SuprSilver, and are probably lazy enough to just jump on. I haven't felt good about ANY of these players all game (except for Scott early) while I have felt good about Padz, Zwiebel, MVT, etc all the way through. If I end up getting lynched tonight then look here because I'm almost certain that there are 2-3 mafia in here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 16:06:20 7558464A4D4A432F0 wrote:
If it was up to me most of these guys wouldn't even be allowed to play. Alas Honko is the host and I am not. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 16:08:15 shock. what is your role name? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 16:09:52 "You are MVT, TOWN Hater (Miller Vigilante Bomb)" |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 16:11:19 That's the biggest lie I've ever seen on an internet forum in my life. That role would not exist. Not even if Honko went insane, got drugged up one night and made the roles. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 16:11:40 242B213C2F29302B2120202B450 wrote:
Now you add miller onto it officially! Comedy wouldn't you say padz? This guy can't be serious. [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 16:15:01 Quote:
My reaction upon reading the PM too. Oh this will be a fun game to look back on... [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/26/11 at 16:21:53 Vote: Nstride I don't care if this looks horrible, since this role claim is just too insane to be true, and you were lying to us about the role restriction, only clearing it when it's about to get in your way. I thought this over quiet a bit now and I can't believe it. I'll go now, this vote will stay until EOD. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 16:23:45 I remember one game when NStride was maf and he just sort of gave up when he got really trapped. Looks like he has done it again. Way too many lies and a roleclaim that ridiculous is almost the equivalent of giving up. This is what he is proposing here...just think about this...no matter how hard I try I could never buy into this... Miller - (shows up in scans as maf even though he is innocent) and he thinks padz scanned him even though padz has looked elsewhere several times during this day. I doubt padz actually scanned him. Hated Townie - Dies from one less vote than everyone else. Vig - Can make night kills. Bomb - last person who votes for him dies? He didn't even address the question about would the bomb go off if he was night killed. Post Restriction - earlier he claimed several times that he had to post like me. That is 5 things right there. No way would such a role exist. I'm not that special of a character am I? ::) Besides that, this made up role inherently gives him so much defense. It tries it's hardest to divert people from going after him. Basically he made up this role so that he absolutely cannot die in anyway without repercussion and damage to other people. Beyond the fact I don't think Honko would be dumb enough to create such a role, it would completely fuck up the balance of the game if it existed. Plus we have had to milk out all these new attachments to the role that have come out only when he has been pressured. If he was bold enough to vig claim why not just tell us everything else that goes with it right away. Then he got pressured and added the bomb stipulation. Then he thought he got scanned and added the miller stipulation. Then he went back on the post restriction part after people called him out on it and it's low probability of being true. What a bogus story. It doesn't even come close to adding up in my eyes. I don't know how anyone can not vote for him after this. ??? Anyone have any defense against this???? I just can't even fathom one or think of any reasoning to believe NStride. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 16:24:15 Unvote Vote:Nstride ... either him or goose imo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 16:26:54 4E494643181811280 wrote:
Fank, maybe you don't get it, but if people stick to the plan we do find out the identity of Goose. Goose must place the last vote (8th vote) if he doesn't do it he is maf / admin. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 16:27:30 Votals [5] Goose - (NStride), Scott, RDBU, (RVZ), Web, Darius, (fank), NStride [4] NStride - MVT, (fank), (padz), (Goose), (Zwiebel), padz, (Goose), Zwiebel, fank [0] fank - (padz) [0] Darius - (Zwiebel) [0] padz - (TvL) [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 1.5 hours (exactly 7:00pm Pacific) or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 16:29:30 5E6F66665E6B666F0A0 wrote:
Fank, maybe you don't get it, but if people stick to the plan we do find out the identity of Goose. Goose must place the last vote (8th vote) if he doesn't do it he is maf / admin.[/quote] I get the plan perfectly... two birds with one stone... The Q is... ".... .... .... for it???" |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 16:30:23 Also if he doesn't die on the 8th vote he is a liar and Goose would be spared. Theoretically this should work and NStride should be the only one dying. I just don't believe his role. I don't think anyone really does at this point considering how much he has lied and twisted it. I MIGHT have bought it if he had just said everything after or while he claimed vig. At that point I don't understand why he wouldn't claim the rest of his role after he claimed the most important town helpful part of vig. Then he adds all those town scaring parts...it doesn't seem right to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 16:35:18 I'm very confused and very tired; not a very good combination. I agree with MVT that Goose casting the final (or 8th) vote on Shock seems like a good plan, and I don't understand people's objections. Will go to sleep in about half an hour, I hope my head has stopped spinning by then. Vote: NStride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 16:36:35 My thoughts exactly... So far the scum count is at 3... Goose? and Nstride? make 5... anyone else who might be scum??? RDBU hasnt posted much... might not want to suggest a 3/3 :D Zwiebel is attacking my posts saying that they are good for nothing... (mvt has too but I believe that is completly due to heart.) Nstride also attacked my posts... saying we should ignore them... It may seem personal but it is definetly a scum move to say not to listen to the guy if they are making a lot of advances (and making stupid posts in between.) #192 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 16:50:54 Really don't care how we do it, but Goose has to die today. If he's willing to make this eight vote bullshit I'll go along with it. Looks like we would need one more person to switch, then Goose to vote after I do. For what it's worth, I totally believe Nstride's claim. Call me KoopZ if you want after the game, but this seems like exactly what Honko would do. Fits MVT like a glove and Honko's always joked about Miller Vig Bomb type of thing :) If you guys want to be ignorant of silly funstuff, be my guests! Stuff like this: Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 16:53:38 And for the record, I'd prefer to just lynch Goose straight up so Shock can have a shot at taking out Fank tonight after Goose flips mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 17:00:00 scott im only going along w/ it until vote 8. im actually w/ u here |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 17:00:10 I'm going to be gone from now till the end of day. this is probably going to be my last post. People I think are maf: Zwiebel Goose (variable based on today's results. If he puts on final vote, moot point. If not, maf.) Sword (If Goose flips maf) People I think are town: Scott MVT padz People that need to die: fank RDBU And with that, I'm out. I guess I'll make this my farewell speech as well. Inactives, you need to speak up because you are so worthless to the town. The mafia will just keep killing off you like flies. (Btw, be suspicious if Matt V isn't dead tonight). Good luck town. [smiley=beer.gif] Now kill me off so we aren't arguing about this all day tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:00:46 In theory all goose needs to be is the last voter... though people can jump ship... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:03:00 Well all we need is one more active person then, and everyone voting Shock to be around to pile off if Goose won't make the last vote. If Goose refuses to do an 8th vote or if the 8th vote doesn't kill Shock, what do we do? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:03:19 162C0B373E2B1E1830303B0B373631385F0 wrote:
If maf have a roleblocker they will probably block him. As you have figured out... im probably good for both sides right now... Maf will keep me cause im still stiring shit (i think) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:04:46 Having a look at the votals... its 5-5 (having a look at the postals im on 195 :D) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by NStride on 03/26/11 at 17:05:19 If I don't die on the 8th vote Honkos a faggot deceptive liar. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:05:49 Yeah, so we need one more person. I said I'd do it and Goose must be part of the plan, so that makes only 7. If no other players show up before the end of the day it's pretty dangerous to lynch Shock! Looks like Web just showed up though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 17:05:59 I'll do the 8th vote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:09:32 Sorry, I was working all day and didn't have much time to get on. I read the plan, so it's up to Goose now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:10:24 Do you people dont get the concept of the term majority... At the moment it is Nstride-5 Goose-5 Goose voting for Nstride now will give it 6... and if we leave it... if im right... Nstride goes for majority... (if Nstride is bomb) Goose goes for last vote.... it may be too early now but i reckon 1 more... But just to be safe... Goose casts No.8 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:10:25 It's up to you Web. Just vote, then I will, then Goose will. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:10:41 3B3C33366D6D645D0 wrote:
If people do this, they look horrible. It makes the most sense out of anything right now (although very little is making sense to me). Whoever changes their vote at this point from the plan pretty much seals their role once Goose flips imo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:11:31 haha misunderstood the plan for a second. Here you go. unvote Vote: NStride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:12:22 unvote Vote: Nstride Okay Goose. Maybe he should wait until Honko is online so we know for sure if this is over or if Shock's pulling our leg? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:14:34 5341464D4A45504B561510240 wrote:
If people do this, they look horrible. It makes the most sense out of anything right now (although very little is making sense to me). Whoever changes their vote at this point from the plan pretty much seals their role once Goose flips imo. [/quote] So why aren't you voting NStride again? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:15:53 Nevermind you just did while I was posting that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:16:13 Why does it matter? Just have nobody else vote/unvote NStride, and if anyone does they look horribly scummy. I'm sure Honko will explain it once he gets online since day ends in a few hours at the latest. He should appear shortly I'm guessing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:17:42 644C4C504611230 wrote:
We're waiting... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:18:15 Once the 8th vote is set, I think all posting should stop until Honko returns. If the 8th vote really does kill Shock, all posting needs to stop. If I'm still the last vote as-is with 5 minutes left in the day I'm switching to Goose and someone else should too. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:20:21 Hopefully he'll show up as soon as this NCAA game finishes. Waiting, Goose! Web, you better stick around in case I am forced to unvote near the end if Goose doesn't do this. Don't want to leave yourself exposed. Just unvote if I do, then Goose will end the day in majority. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:21:00 ... I dont think Honko will give anything away unless Nstride IS what he claims to be... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:21:06 Members viewing this topic (2): MVT, thewebinator. ? He's gone. There were 13 viewing about 10 minutes ago. What happened? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:22:05 48725569607540466E6E655569686F66010 wrote:
I cant guarantee if ill be here or not. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:24:24 Yeah I can do that Scott, I'll be on for the next few hours. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:24:18 I don't think Goose will do it... :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:25:08 08393030083D30395C0 wrote:
... have patience brother... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:26:15 Goose is busy installing bitcoin right now. Probably a stall tactic. He's in the elite chat talking about it. I of course cannot say anything there about the mafia game. Web: Day ends at the end of this current hour. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:26:17 The fact that he isn't even viewing the thread worries me a lot. I've found there's about a 15 minute period after you go offline where the forum still registers you as online, so he might have gone offline already. If he said he's doing the 8th vote why not? Trolling to wait for the last few minutes? EDIT - 34 minutes is even better then, I'll easily be sitting at my laptop this whole time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:30:32 Honko's on. Just letting everyone know. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 17:33:20 Can't believe I'm still awake... It makes sense. If Goose is maf, he knows NStride is town and thus probably telling the truth. That means, if he casts the 8th vote, he is dead. If he doesn't, we'll know he's mafia too, but at least we'll need another day to get rid of him. (Edited within 1 min) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 17:33:42 let's get a vote count |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:33:28 Goose you are going to die either way so it's a lose lose situation. If you are actually town you will see we at least have a chance to kill a maf. If you are on the same team as NStride then it makes sense that you wouldn't do it especially if he has a better power role than you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 17:34:26 Votals [7] NStride - MVT, (fank), (padz), (Goose), (Zwiebel), padz, (Goose), Zwiebel, fank, TvL, Web, Scott [3] Goose - (NStride), (Scott), RDBU, (RVZ), (Web), Darius, (fank), NStride [0] fank - (padz) [0] Darius - (Zwiebel) [0] padz - (TvL) [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 25 minutes (exactly 7:00pm Pacific) or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:35:38 So not voting will result in your death. If you are maf then it makes sense for you to take the hit if he has a better power than you. Unless NStride's claim is somehow true. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 17:37:14 I'm going to have to die at some point since I doubt I'll ever be fully cleared. Plus I'm almost 100% sure he's lying about being a bomb. Vote: Nstride |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:37:32 153D3D213760520 wrote:
Goose... Its 7-3 Nstride. And this will Bring up 200 :D:D:D:D:D [smiley=beer.gif] My shout everyone... [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] Now... because the 200 is a milestone better add something good... Goose failure to comply could mean one of two things... Goose is Maf (only Maf left confident enough to win the game...) Goose and Nstride is maf (though there are incositencies with this theory Nstride could be saving his own hide...) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 17:38:24 Votals [8] NStride - MVT, (fank), (padz), (Goose), (Zwiebel), padz, (Goose), Zwiebel, fank, TvL, Web, Scott, Goose [3] Goose - (NStride), (Scott), RDBU, (RVZ), (Web), Darius, (fank), NStride [0] fank - (padz) [0] Darius - (Zwiebel) [0] padz - (TvL) [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 22 minutes (exactly 7:00pm Pacific) or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:39:15 I feel like there are two options here. 1. Goose is trying to wait it out, not wanting to lynch NStride because they are mafia buds. 2. Goose is trying to wait it out, trying to put us under the illusion that NStride and Goose are mafia buds. #2 sounds much more likely, and it looks like a last-ditch attempt by Goose to get NStride killed and keep his maf pals out of suspicion. Also, its been said before, but NStride if you are vig a fank kill is probably the best option. Either him or RDBU, since both are equally useless but fank has more for us to go on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 17:39:24 Yeah that's what I thought. No way 8/16 gets a majority even with the "I die with 1 less vote" role if that were |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:40:14 Goose just gave up on fixing his computer, it sucks too bad to use that application! Hopefully he'll show up soon. http://www.upload.speedrunwiki.com/images/misc/BitcoinFail.png |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:40:09 Ok so now NStride is a 100% confirmed liar. Someone finish him off. Good play Goose you must be town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:41:07 Hmm, seems things didn't happen as Nstride said they would! Now what? Do we switch back to Goose or stick with Nstride? Personally, I say go to Goose. Nstride is clearly 3rd party. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:41:43 I figured it would be too easy to have a "hated" role twice in a row. I'd never heard of it before the Ivo game, and since it was one of Shock's only experiences I figured he'd go with it. Anyway, on with the Shock lynching. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:42:41 So Shock is SK then? That would make sense to me, and thus why he could claim all of these kills, aka getting a maf. Vig should probably shoot Shock then, if we lynch Goose. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 17:43:10 754F68545D487D7B535358685455525B3C0 wrote:
I would like to see this confirmed, actually. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:43:38 08321529203500062E2E251529282F26410 wrote:
??? If Nstride is 3rd party??? it would still make sense voting for him... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:43:43 6C63697467617863696868630D0 wrote:
Anyway, let's lynch Goose. unvote Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:43:47 675D7A464F5A6F6941414A7A464740492E0 wrote:
Are you out of your mind???? Goose proved himself to be town. A maf / admin would not have taken the risk of making that last vote. If you unvote you are maf. Shock is proven against town and you want to let him off the hook in favor of Goose who pretty much is confirmed townie now? Pretty much the scummiest thing I've ever heard! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:45:09 I say vig shoot fank/RDBU as earlier, and we lynch Shock. If he lied then he's not a help to town. (see SuprSilver day 1 with the post change) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:45:29 Nope, not out of my mind. Goose just was willing to take the risk that Shock was lying about 8 vote lynch. Best play no matter what if he's mafia is to be willing to do it, because if Shock is lying, Goose looks great. If Goose refuses to do it we lynch him anyway so it's his one and only option. Pretty clear to me. I know if we don't kill Goose today he's going to just keep living, and he's too dangerous. Kill Shock tomorrow after he's done firing his pistol. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:46:21 063C1B272E3B0E0820202B1B272621284F0 wrote:
Anyway, let's lynch Goose. unvote Vote: Goose[/quote] DO YOU GET IT? NSTRIDE IS CONFIRMED AGAINST TOWN. GOOSE IS ALMOST 100% TOWN. What the fuck!? You are clearly on NStride's team because you don't want him dead. What are you going to do night protect him? Scott is scum. If anyone else even considers jumping off NStride who is 100% against town they are also maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 17:47:40 rof scott is mafia |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:47:42 No, I clearly stated before I voted that I was doing this only along the assumption an 8th vote kills Shock and Goose both. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:49:19 605A7D41485D686E46464D7D4140474E290 wrote:
Dumbest plan ever. Sorry that you don't want your scum buddy NStride to die tonight. I'm sure he has a valuable night ability that you want to take advantage of tonight. Unfortunately you are paper thin right now. NO ONE, should go along with Scott. At least we snuffed out another scum before day ended. I didn't expect Scott to reveal himself so easily. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 17:49:35 scott is the master it'll be a long ten minutes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by padz on 03/26/11 at 17:50:41 i think i know what's going on here scott, put your vote on shock or i will kill you tonight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/26/11 at 17:50:58 I'm too tired to see any sense in this. It's 3:50 am here... [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:51:02 Web, TvL, come and join me. Let's kill the mafia member. Shock will still be there tomorrow and I'll vote him right away and all day, but Goose comes first before he can squirm. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:51:13 why let a confirmed SK live another night when he'll kill someone (most likely town) that doesn't have to die? That confuses the heck out of me. Scott, you look horrible and I thought you were so towny before. Congrats on your beginning game, too bad you had to slip so badly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:51:28 Town Leanz Zwiebel MVT The Webinator Darius Admin Leanz Scott Nstride Maf Leanz Goose Padz Useless as fank RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:53:34 704A6D51584D787E56565D6D5150575E390 wrote:
And waste a day of discussion on a vote at the end that has already been a confirmed non-townie? Sorry, I"m not up for that. Goose has looked bad off and on, but he's it's not confirmed he's against town. When he's against someone that is, it seems like pretty simple logic. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by fank009 on 03/26/11 at 17:54:05 132F282A263418310B470 wrote:
You sleep much? I reckon 4-3 is a good number for maf teams... If im right we as much as have this game all done. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 17:54:54 5 minutes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 03/26/11 at 17:55:34 I'm willing to stick my whole game on Goose being mafia. Make what you will out of it. As I said before this whole shock 8 vote thing, I was only going to push for Goose to die today. If he's not mafia then my bad but that's my read. If he's mafia he'll be able to play everyone for the rest of the game after this stunt. TOO DANGEROUS. He's also just been a mega disaster the whole game distracting everyone. Feel free to call me KoopZ from now on if I'm wrong. And no I'm not on the same team as Shock. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by thewebinator on 03/26/11 at 17:56:53 2126292C77777E470 wrote:
You sleep much? I reckon 4-3 is a good number for maf teams... If im right we as much as have this game all done.[/quote] I doubt we have 4 maf. I"d expect 5 probably. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 17:56:54 3 minutes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Goose on 03/26/11 at 17:57:22 Haha Scott was the 2nd last to vote Nstride. They're both mafia. Nstride probably IS the bomb, but 8/16 isn't a majority. Scott UNVOTED and voted me so that I couldn't unvote Nstride last minute and get them both killed. gg Scott have fun picking who to kill tonight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/26/11 at 17:57:12 Good game Scott. What an incredible slip up from a usually very solid player. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 17:58:54 Votals [7] NStride - MVT, (fank), (padz), (Goose), (Zwiebel), padz, (Goose), Zwiebel, fank, TvL, Web, (Scott), Goose [4] Goose - (NStride), (Scott), RDBU, (RVZ), (Web), Darius, (fank), NStride, Scott [0] fank - (padz) [0] Darius - (Zwiebel) [0] padz - (TvL) [0] Zwiebel - (padz) Day ends in 1 minute (exactly 7:00pm Pacific) or when someone reaches 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Night 3 Post by Honko on 03/26/11 at 18:12:22 NStride has been lynched. He was MVT, TOWN Hater. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HebsTgwxlY4/TGnJ7mBPpcI/AAAAAAAAAUM/Uh1yQAJVGrk/s1600/death_star_1_destroyed_at_yavin-600x332.jpg NStride exploded! Goose died in the explosion. He was Flo1, TOWN Vanilla. It is now Night 3. Send your night actions to me by PM in the next 23 hours. If you do not wish to use your night action tonight, please PM me with that decision. If you do not have any night powers, no PM is necessary. Final Day 3 Votals [7] NStride - MVT, (fank), (padz), (Goose), (Zwiebel), padz, (Goose), Zwiebel, fank, TvL, Web, (Scott), Goose [4] Goose - (NStride), (Scott), RDBU, (RVZ), (Web), Darius, (fank), NStride, Scott [0] fank - (padz) [0] Darius - (Zwiebel) [0] padz - (TvL) [0] Zwiebel - (padz) The Living 1. Darius 2. fank 3. Ivo 4. Matt V 5. MVT 6. padz 7. RDBU 8. RVZ 9. Scott 10. Sword 11. Tim 12. TvL 13. Web 14. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3) Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Honko on 03/27/11 at 17:59:20 fank is dead. He was finn, TOWN Vanilla. Scott is dead. He was karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla. Sword is dead. He was Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive. The Living 1. Darius 2. Ivo 3. Matt V 4. MVT 5. padz 6. RDBU 7. RVZ 8. Tim 9. TvL 10. Web 11. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3) Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3) fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3) With 11 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. REMINDER: Dead players do NOT get a "farewell" post. If you're dead, stay quiet. Also, be sure to check your PMs before posting. Go! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/27/11 at 18:12:49 vote Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/27/11 at 18:18:30 VoTe: MVT |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 18:20:41 I really can't believe that NStride lied about half of his role but didn't lie about the bomb part. Why the fuck would he do that as a townie!? Quite possibly the worst play ever and now we are stuck really having to make the correct lynch today. I don't know if or when I should claim. I'd like to hold off unless people really would like to know. I also don't understand how so many people died tonight. The most frustrating thing about this game, and I pointed it out yesterday, is that we have no understanding whatsoever of the night actions this game. Hell we don't even know for sure if there are more Admin players still. Nothing but town has died lately. 5 fucking town dead in a snap of a finger. Everyone was off base on everything myself included. I don't know what to really do now. One thing for certain is we DEFINITELY need a firmer understanding of the night actions and how things are working. I'm not asking for people to come out and claim every action, that's unreasonable. I'm just trying to comprehend how 3 guys died at night and some of the other nights have been just as confusing. Padz did you actually kill Scott last night? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/27/11 at 18:23:02 Continue having no own opinion MVT.... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 18:25:18 What would you like RVZ? Actually from my recollection all you have done is latch onto every single majority lynch or just not voting or posting much at all this entire game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 18:28:11 I think either RDBU or Tvl should be the candidate personally. Unless someone can bring up some good points to start a wagon for someone else. Vote - x Vote -y posts with no reasoning aren't going to get us far. We have to have a lot of discussion today. I feel like yesterday we must have rushed into it a bit. As I said before it's also important to get an understand of the night actions and who did what when, etc. The night's are very confusing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/27/11 at 18:30:12 You're usually a guy that has his own strong opinion. This game you agree, accept and understand other players opinion. That's not the real Tunzi. Í didn't contribute shit I know, but I know what's going on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/27/11 at 18:30:51 7041484870454841240 wrote:
unvote vote MVT |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 2: Drnnk Psots Post by RVZ on 03/27/11 at 18:36:16 4071787840757871140 wrote:
LOL |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 18:36:25 644353484E474755260 wrote:
I think that's quite the accusation to go with there. I have probably been the most opinionated player this entire game except maybe fank. You RVZ have probably been the least opinionated player with a toss up of RDBU and Matt V who have gotten by the entire game with no heat or pressure whatsoever. Quite disturbing that you would want to go another day without questioning them. Also about me having "no reasoning", when 5 townies die in 1 day night cycle, I think it's a good point to take a step back and think while letting the completely inactives speak up for a change. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/27/11 at 18:42:37 mvt if you dont quit softdefending darius i will guarantee that you are lynched today. everyone always says they want to hear from inactives but it never happens. by all means put pressure on them but i want to be very clear about darius. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/27/11 at 18:43:09 Say whatever you wanna say. You're putting up an act. You're not the real MVT. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 18:43:56 0031342A2520500 wrote:
If you can give me even a tiny bit of reasoning I may indulge you with my opinion. How am I supposed to respond to "Vote Darius" ? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 18:47:29 Also... 4D7C75754D78757C190 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/27/11 at 18:51:22 darius is tough to pin because he plays passively. here's some shit he's pulled: -pushed super-hard on supr when people tried to put out the fire -posts twice at the beginning of the day and fucks right off once the heat comes off -only sentiments of his own are clearing people who later flip town -part of the koopz-supr gooseframing coalition -come down hard on everything koopz and rdbu say. more lenient w/ even fank -still isnt dead -has not received any heat from anyone for not posting and flown completely under the radar -votes w/ rdbu |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 18:56:51 Good points. I can see him being maf, no doubt. I considered diving into this day head on and accusing everyone but when I saw 3 dead it kind of came as a shock (no pun intended). I'd really really like the inactives to speak. I'm actually happy that RVZ actually has an opinion for once and is posting. Matt V and RDBU have GOTTA POST. They need fucking pressure. Darius is a good option and I'd be willing to vote him later in the day. I don't see any reason whatsoever to rush vote him though and go another day with RDBU and Matt V not having to say ONE SINGLE THING THE ENTIRE DAY. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/27/11 at 20:35:50 One reason I don't post much is because apparently, NOTHING I will ever say is good enough. So, Darius or MVT... Vote: Darius Also, since I'll probably be going to hell today... You are TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla. Can't be too many Mafia left, so it'll probably be best if everyone had some idea who is who. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/27/11 at 21:00:08 1E2B2F2D26052F3C3A2B3C4E0 wrote:
every mafia ever says something like this, they get defensive for not posting shit as if they think anyone will give a shit 1E2B2F2D26052F3C3A2B3C4E0 wrote:
initiating mass claim? frigz sounds more like a safelist entry. reminds me of a certain post: 042132293533400 wrote:
very, very eager to get claims out in the open. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/27/11 at 21:40:52 Yo padz to be honest dude I was considering attacking Darius even before you first posted the day. Bro I feel ur vibe. I just can't stand the feeling of these inactive guys who could easily end up being on the scum team to get an entire day free of pressure. They have gotten many days like that already and to really quantify them as town / scum and gain a read on them we need them to post. See how much you were able to garner there from the single RDBU post. How could you ignore a day where we have a chance to learn something about the other players. Especially this late in the game where discussion is a critical component. Mafia would want the day to end ASAP. The less information the better for the mafia. We need to act as mitigators in exchanging pressure between players in order to get them to speak. Whether what they are saying is flawed logic, valuable info, or just plain bs. Any dialogue is beneficial. That is why I am encouraging them to speak up and taking a lower key tone of voice. Instead of shoving my ideas and pushing hard on them I am allowing the inactive shy shadowy posters to push their own agendas and this helps me gain a picture of them as a player and their true identity. You feel me brah? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/27/11 at 23:22:30 totally. just lettin darius know his time is up. unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/27/11 at 23:26:40 Are you guys having a contest to see who can scum up the thread the most? Let's start with Padz: 5061647A7570000 wrote:
Let's see: You call me passive and then your first point completely contradicts that. Regarding 1, I went hard after Supr because Supr did something incredibly scummy. The fact that most of the game seemed to disagree with me about this is apparently because you all think it's fine to play like you're solely focused on trying not to get lynched, even by deleting a post to replace it with something entirely different, instead of trying to find scum (hint: this is a mafia mindset, not town). This also contradicts 3, which suggests all I do is call people town, which also contradicts 4 and 5, where you apparently suggest that a) I somehow helped to 'frame' Goose and b) I'm somehow scummy for identifying scummy/townie behaviour in other players. Is this because you think I'm mafia with Koopz and RDBU? 2 is what it is; I can tell you why I wasn't here on Saturday if you want, but I'm not here to make excuses. 6 and 7 are you trying to play both sides of the case: either you think I'm a dangerous player who would be dead if I was town, or you think I'm a player who hasn't contributed enough to the game. If it's the latter, it's one good reason why I'm not dead; if it's the former, it renders the latter null and void because you'd obviously think my play has warranted mafia killing me. Ignoring the fact that it's a total misrepresentation, I'm not even sure what 8 has to do with anything. 042132293533400 wrote:
very, very eager to get claims out in the open.[/quote] He already claimed. Flavour is a good way of verifying claims. NStride was the one who was eager to get his claim out in the open. Once he claimed I wanted to make sure the flavour matched up with the hints he'd been dropping and that his person matched his role, which it did. Can you tell me how this is different from what a bunch of other people did the rest of the day? 55646D6D55606D64010 wrote:
How convenient. Let's run this back: Padz: Vote Darius MVT: I'm so confused I can't believe NStride lied etc. Padz: Vote Darius MVT: We should lynch RDBU or TvL Padz: Vote Darius MVT: You know Padz, you make some great points about Darius! 083D393B3013392A2C3D2A580 wrote:
So here we have a false dilemma, then you're overeager to claim as the day starts, then you try to get everyone else to claim based on the idea that there aren't many mafia left? The first is just straight up scummy, the second indicates you've set up a plan before you went into the day and the third just doesn't make sense full stop. Now I'm going to go back and catch up on that almighty catastrophe that was the NStride lynch and see who looks like scum capitalising on a double lynch opportunity. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/27/11 at 23:52:16 darius if u werent scum you would have been one of the first players to get picked off based on reputation alone wasnt this part of your strat when framing goose? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 00:00:02 How do you know they haven't tried? Who are the players (alive or dead) you think have the best reputation at mafia? Can you explain exactly how you think I tried to frame Goose? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/28/11 at 00:05:25 is that a roleclaim? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 00:12:51 Of course not. I'm not RDBU. Stop rolefishing. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/28/11 at 00:14:42 hear that? darius isnt rdbu! time to pull off because darius is obvtown. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 01:22:02 665A5D5F53416D447E320 wrote:
Why did you suggest RDBU was a 'bad townie' here?' 063A3D3F33210D241E520 wrote:
TvL casually suggests that two townies may die here, even though he claims he doesn't fully understand the plan... 64585F5D51436F467C300 wrote:
...then when people turn away from it, he tries to push them back into it! 09243A3631363F530 wrote:
That would seriously be wtf. I also read out of Shock's post that he basically is claiming Miller, that really is unbelievable. I have to say I really fell for his vig claim, but I think that role really would be ridiculous. I'd also agree with goose making the final vote...I'm not feeling good for letting go of Darius and all the others who stay under the radar, but this just can't be true. Vote Nstride [/quote] Zwiebel sees his chance to hop on the NStride wagon and sounds pretty forced here. He pretends he bought all the other aspects of the claim but suddenly miller is too much? His 'oh no we're not lynching Darius etc.' sounds very fake to me too. 1C202725293B173E04480 wrote:
TvL now thinks the plan is a good idea but still claims his head is spinning. I think he's trying to pretend he doesn't really know what's going on to avoid the full force of the fallout. After Goose doesn't instantly die, we get this from Web: 697B7C77707F6A716C2F2A1E0 wrote:
Straight afterwards he realises Scott has suggested a third party and wants to lynch Goose instead: 5446414A4D42574C511217230 wrote:
So he doesn't take any time to think about what Goose placing the 8th vote actually means, nor does he move his vote off Shock, but he's still already setting up Shock's vigging in anticipation of lynching Goose. 3022252E29263328357673470 wrote:
The scummiest Web post of all. 'Let's lynch Shock because he lied like Suprsilvr'. Let's go back and see what Web's reaction to Supr's list change was: |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 01:24:37 392B2C27202F3A213C7F7A4E0 wrote:
SuperSilver not much else I can say other than what Sword said. It kinda makes it look like you posted, then one of your maf buds said, "Don't post that" after you already had so you wanted to change it. Only edit for spelling stuff, but it's better not to edit at all. @everyone. It was something like he though I was neutral, but mafiaish. He though fank was maf, Goose was ????, and I think he said MVT town. But I can't remember anything other than that. [/quote] So he saw Supr change the list, waited until Sword called Supr out on it and I'd voted and then said that he'd seen it too, but he still doesn't say Supr's scummy for it. He treats it like it's not a real scumslip and warns Supr that it might look like mafia if he keeps doing it. 2032353E39362338256663570 wrote:
How can you say he looks towny after editing his post to get rid of a list of suspects? [/quote] Web pretty much avoids actually putting any pressure on Supr, but challenges Fank because he lists Supr as town. This reads as though Web's skirting the real issue of Supr's post edit and trying to tie Fank to Supr instead; this is not a logical thought process. 4456515A5D52475C410207330 wrote:
Hugely weak post here. You didn't say anything that hadn't already been said. Fank, sorry dude but you're missing a lot of key points when you post, make sure to read carefully so you don't miss anything. SS might get modkilled, but we have to play like he isn't obviously. His error is huge, but fank "defended" him right afterwords claiming not to see it. Vote: fank009 Back and forth, back and forth. I'm sticking with it this time. Honestly he looks really bad now. If you need any more evidence Darius, (which I'm sure you don't) look a few posts up. I'll be around for a few more hours watching NCAA Basketball.[/quote] Now he votes Fank because of ignoring Supr's error! Web doesn't know Supr's alignment, it's barely been any time since Supr made the mistake but he's voting for Fank based on a connection to a player that he never called scummy! It gets better: 2C3E3932353A2F34296A6F5B0 wrote:
Here's my reasoning. Although SuperSilver made that atrocious edit, fank was quick to jump to his defense with out much reasoning or an idea of what is going on. Right now (in my opinion) looking at the next few posts that SuperSilver made, he appears to be not really trying to cover up what he did with some ridiculous scheme, or any type of backing away from what he did. It looks to me like he's just accepting the fact that he really, truly screwed up (which seems slightly townish). That doesn't put him off my radar entirely, but I think fank is a better lynch now. Fank has continued to be inconsistent, to the point where he doesn't even think that SS's actions are all that bad. If Fank turns up mafia, for putting SuperSilver down as town I think SS goes back into the limelight and is a huge case for being a mafia member. My opinion on Fank's vote is that he's trying to move along with the wagon as to not look suspicious, but at the same time trying to defend his maf buddy SuperSilver in order to try and get him saved. Trying to do both of those at the same time is making him look really wishy-washy, and that's why I think he's scum. [/quote] Can you say cognitive dissonance? I have bolded the three statements that make less and less sense together each time I read them. Finally, let's see why Web ACTUALLY voted Supr on D2: |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 01:30:01 7163646F68677269743732060 wrote:
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Taunting the town to vote you? Doesn't seem very helpful imo. unvote Vote : SuprSilver This just pushed me over the edge. Until I see that list, it isn't changing. As confusing as fank is, you don't appear to care that the town might make a mistake and vote you off.[/quote] So it's not because he lied, it's because he's trying to look like he doesn't care if he gets lynched (incidentally not as scummy as Supr's original slip). This is the first time that Web says Supr's not very helpful and a complete attitude change to how he reacted to the post edit situation. This brings us all the way back to the post I quoted at the end of 504, where Web links NStride lying to Supr's post edit, the contradiction of course being that Web never thought that was the scummiest thing Supr did; in fact, he never called it scummy at all. Vote: thewebinator TvL and Zwiebel also win scumpoints for yesterday's fiasco. MVT and RDBU get some for opportunistically sheeping Padz's posts on me, plus RDBU's false dilemma is scum-tastic. Tim & Matt V are top of my lurker-scum list, and Ivo has gone worryingly quiet too. Padz: can you answer my question in 1500? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 01:58:18 414E44594A4C554E4445454E200 wrote:
He was sure right about this one. What a brilliant day for the mafia yesterday. Town walked straight into the trap. Yes, I feared both Goose and Shock were town, but I wasn't sure about it; especially not about Goose. Later, I decided to go with the flow and see who was eager to jump on this idea; after all, this was great for the mafia. They knew Goose and Shock were town, so probably Shock was indeed a bomb, and they'd get rid of two townies at once. I stayed up till 4 am to make up my mind about trying to stop the lynch, but I was too uncertain about Goose. But I actually think that most mafia remained quiet at the end of day 3, and let town selfdestruct. You know what I would do as mafia? I'd lean back at the end day 3, and then as chaos ensues on day 4 (as predicted by Shock), I'd come out with some random accusations to add to the chaos. And what do we find? 49787D636C69190 wrote:
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May I also point out that RVZ is Dutch, and at the time of his post, it was 4:18 am in the Netherlands!! Wtf was he doing up by then? Making sure he'd start the chaos early on, that's what. What did he do on day 3? He voted Goose, then unvoted, and then lurked. And now all of a sudden he's back. In the middle of the night. Another lost son who returned: Darius. Hi, nice to see you again. It's a shame I can't vote for all three of you. Vote: padz Mafia list: - padz - RVZ - Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 02:06:35 So let me get this straight: you think I'm scum with Padz and RVZ, we all deliberately laid low yesterday while the Shock/Goose mania was going on and now my Web vote is a 'random accusation' to cause chaos? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Timothy on 03/28/11 at 02:10:19 I've been in Dublin all weekend but forgot to aware everyone of my absence. Day 3 looks like an absolute shambles, going to go and read it properly. PS I'm not 'lurker scum', I hadn't been able to log on all weekend. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 02:15:41 0F2A39223E384B0 wrote:
Pretty much, yes. I might be wrong about some of the details, for that I apologize. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 02:50:56 073B3C3E32200C251F530 wrote:
Pretty much, yes. I might be wrong about some of the details, for that I apologize.[/quote] Well, first of all, if you made the case, you shouldn't be apologising for it. Why isn't RDBU scum? Have you read my Web case? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 03:33:25 I apologize because the plan is beautiful, and there are probably more nice elements to it. And I just stripped them from the plan and brought it down to the basics. I admit not having read your posts in detail yet, but I am suspicious that you've come out hard and fast today while I don't remember much from you from day 3. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 03:40:08 I wasn't home for most of D3, so that does make sense. I am home today, hence the posting. In any case, if you're content to push a case on me despite not having actually read my posts properly, it does make it easier to determine your alignment. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/28/11 at 04:17:32 So, i finally get home after being DAYS away. This game made me realize how busy my life is sometimes. At least i'm off today and have very little to do tomorrow. Day1: me being away Day2: me being here very active but blundering again, which i always seem to do. ;D Day3: me being away :( going to catch up now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 04:18:25 Ok, let me address your concerns about me: 0326352E3234470 wrote:
Why did you suggest RDBU was a 'bad townie' here?'[/quote] What I meant was that my first argument could indicate that he's just a bad townie instead of mafia. But I wasn't finished, and I went on to present arguments why the latter option is more likely. Quote:
Yes I did not fully understand the plan, because I was not familiar with bombs. And yes, I suspected Shock was town (until he started claiming that extra stuff) and Goose was fifty-fifty for me. Quote:
I was not pushing, I was suggesting to discuss it. I was curious to see who would jump on this idea. Quote:
At this point Shock had claimed vig+bomb+miller and I had only just learned what all that meant. It also meant that I was getting suspicious of him, which I wasn't before. So yes, my head was spinning. I like that you're shaking the tree - if you are indeed town - but I think you're shaking the wrong branch. I doubt the mafia would have so openly supported the Goose-lynching-Shock idea, since they knew the result would be town twice. Town looked very much set to destroy themselves anyway (that included Goose, Shock and Scott). Edited to fix typo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/28/11 at 04:55:11 ok, except for tvl almost none seemed to care about me not being here, As for his questions to me, going back two days, i totally misread honko. This really is one of these overpowered games in which a lot of roles don't seem to make sense, and i currently have NO clue what the set up is. Really, SS didn't have anything to do with it, i thought he was scummy, i even voted for him and pushed the lynch, but changed my mind because it did not make any sense set up wise (and still doesn't). But this has shown again that when i try to defense someone i'm always incorrect ;D I'm not the only one who did that btw, scott, nstride, goose, and mvt also did it, and the first three are confirmed townies now. And i think mvt is town too, he's trying too hard, and playing too much of his usual town style not to be town, or at least he's great at faking it if he's mafia. that's about it for answering your question, now i'll start commenting on more of the recent stuff that has happened. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Ivootjes on 03/28/11 at 05:38:49 5C796A716D6B180 wrote:
So basicly you're saying 1. Darius - 2. Ivo too quiet -> scum 3. Matt V lurker -> scum 4. MVT using wrong assumptions to call you scum -> scum 5. padz poor posting -> scum 6. RDBU poor roleclaim -> scum 7. RVZ didn't say anything about rvz, so i assume -> town? 8. Tim lurker -> scum 9. TvL poor day 3 playing -> scum 10. Web solid analysis on his mistakes -> scum 11. Zwiebel poor day 3 playing -> scum that's basicly saying everybody is scum in one post, except for rvz as you didn't mention him. I like your reasoning why webinator is scum, but quickly mentioning ALL other names within one post does not help us at all, if you're basicly saying they're all scum or have earned more scumpoints. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Zwiebel on 03/28/11 at 05:50:40 664E4E524413210 wrote:
I really would not be surprised if all remaining mafia are in this group. They have a perfect excuse to vote me in that I defended SuprSilver, and are probably lazy enough to just jump on. I haven't felt good about ANY of these players all game (except for Scott early) while I have felt good about Padz, Zwiebel, MVT, etc all the way through. If I end up getting lynched tonight then look here because I'm almost certain that there are 2-3 mafia in here.[/quote] I'm sure there's at least 1 Maf in there, and I stated my opinion about Darius already yesterday. He's been staying the whole game under the radar, just to come out now where danger appears that he could be lynched. It also adds up with the fact that I think the Mafia just did sit back D3 and laughed at us killing 2 Townies in one strike. I think remaining Mafia is Darius+inactive (most likely RDBU/Matt V). If you want more reasons, check my post D3 where I accused him. If Shock's claim wouldn't have been so ridiculous, I would have been more persistant of it, but his claim just made him look even worse than Darius in my eyes. I won't let go of Darius this easy today. Vote Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 05:52:10 04383F3D31230F261C500 wrote:
Why did you suggest RDBU was a 'bad townie' here?'[/quote] What I meant was that my first argument could indicate that he's just a bad townie instead of mafia. But I wasn't finished, and I went on to present arguments why the latter option is more likely. Quote:
Yes I did not fully understand the plan, because I was not familiar with bombs. And yes, I suspected Shock was town (until he started claiming that extra stuff) and Goose was fifty-fifty for me. Quote:
I was not pushing, I was suggesting to discuss it. I was curious to see who would jump on this idea. Quote:
At this point Shock had claimed vig+bomb+miller and I had only just learned what all that meant. It also meant that I was getting suspicious of him, which I wasn't before. So yes, my head was spinning. I like that you're shaking the tree - if you are indeed town - but I think you're shaking the wrong branch. I doubt the mafia would have so openly supported the Goose-lynching-Shock idea, since they knew the result would be town twice. Town looked very much set to destroy themselves anyway (that included Goose, Shock and Scott). Edited to fix typo.[/quote] You shouldn't really feel bad about voting NStride. I certainly don't. He claimed he died from one less vote which was a total lie. So when he didn't die from 8 votes he was pretty much confirmed maf since no town would lie about that. Then when he actually was bomb....that's just unbelievably poor play and I feel no sympathy for me voting him off. If he was that bad of a player maybe it's best he is out of the way now and we took the damage at that point of the game and Goose didn't have a power role. Now that fank is also out of the way I think we have reached the best point of the game for true dialogue. Tvl, what do you think of Darius's case against Webinator? Personally I find it flimsy at best. However Web still MUST POST (protip - maybe with some defense), and so MUST MattV. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 06:02:15 I'm not saying everyone is scum. Web's my top pick right now for reasons I think I've given pretty clearly. I think a lot of people have either done scummy things, or not done anything at all to the point that I find it scummy. All of these people need pressure putting on them for the things they've done so that I can get a read (for instance, Tim almost immediately responded by saying he wasn't lurker scum, which tells me he's worried people will think he's scum). So yes, there are a lot of people I think could potentially be scum, but I certainly don't think everything I identified automatically makes them scum. If your problem is that I didn't choose one specific target as my main focus, I quite clearly did. TvL: 'shaking the tree', as you put it, is how I work out if people are scum or not. If I don't shake the the branches, I don't get the info. If you are town, I'll get a better indication of that from questioning you. The 'bad townie' thing seemed incongruous because to me, what you outlined in that first point is also pretty scummy. I didn't see where the town part of it came in. On the topic of NStride's claim, I would say that from my previous experience with you, I expected you to be quite quick off the mark and logical in the way you approached the game. You didn't start out in a particularly insightful manner and I didn't think the bomb idea was that difficult to grasp. The change of direction read to me like you didn't believe your original statement that much; if you were that concerned about double townie death, it seems contradictory that you'd then go back and say people should discuss it more. Have you only had experience with very basic roles in the past like cop, doc etc.? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Honko on 03/28/11 at 06:14:56 Votals [2] Darius - (padz), RDBU, Zwiebel [1] padz - TvL [1] Web - Darius [1] MVT - RVZ, (padz) Day ends in 36 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 06:16:32 624F515D5A5D54380 wrote:
I really would not be surprised if all remaining mafia are in this group. They have a perfect excuse to vote me in that I defended SuprSilver, and are probably lazy enough to just jump on. I haven't felt good about ANY of these players all game (except for Scott early) while I have felt good about Padz, Zwiebel, MVT, etc all the way through. If I end up getting lynched tonight then look here because I'm almost certain that there are 2-3 mafia in here.[/quote] I'm sure there's at least 1 Maf in there, and I stated my opinion about Darius already yesterday. He's been staying the whole game under the radar, just to come out now where danger appears that he could be lynched. It also adds up with the fact that I think the Mafia just did sit back D3 and laughed at us killing 2 Townies in one strike. I think remaining Mafia is Darius+inactive (most likely RDBU/Matt V). If you want more reasons, check my post D3 where I accused him. If Shock's claim wouldn't have been so ridiculous, I would have been more persistant of it, but his claim just made him look even worse than Darius in my eyes. I won't let go of Darius this easy today. Vote Darius [/quote] You and Padz have both pushed this 'under the radar' line recently, as has Ivo earlier in the game. Can you actually identify specific aspects of my play that are 'under the radar'? If 'not being here yesterday' is one of them, you can throw that out because Ivo, Tim, RDBU and Sword all posted less than I did, and RVZ only posted once more. Padz tried to identify why I was playing 'under the radar' and actually came up with several points proving that I had pressured players and interacted with a lot of different people in this game. I've been one of the very few people in this game pursuing my own line of questioning, looking at players who I personally think are scummy instead of just following the crowd saying 'well it's X or Y we lynch today' and generally doing a hell of a lot more scumhunting than players with a whole lot more posts than me. So tell me, where have I done things to avoid drawing suspicion? Where do you get the impression that I'm playing this game not to draw attention? MVT: how about you tell me what's so 'flimsy' about my Web case instead of just shooting it down with no analysis? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 07:19:12 6E4B58435F592A0 wrote:
...and I was shaking you. ;) I like how you reacted, so you've moved to the town-side of the spectrum for me, but I will of course keep my eye on you, as you will undoubtedly keep your eye on me. padz and RVZ are furthest on the mafia-side of my spectrum. RVZ posted 7, 8 and 5 times on day 1, 2 and 3 respectively, and now he has already posted 5 times today; and did so between 4:18 and 4:43 am. What's up RVZ? I will build my case against padz later. I'll also review Web. See you in a few hours or so. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/28/11 at 07:34:43 Darius, my problem with you is that you "pretend" to be active, but it's not like you have contributed much until D4 began. You're not on the bottom of the post list, but also you weren't contributing much as well. You had like 10 posts on D1, then 14 on D2 and 4 on D3. You almost have as much posts on D4 as on D2 and we're like only 10 hours into the day. That's what makes you look like you have been under the radar until now for me. No one should be suspicious of you because you don't post, but you didn't want to post too much because you don't want to give us many informations? I don't know if you really were busy D3, but it would be a really nice excuse for letting us lynch 2 Townies while you avoid getting in trouble. I don't say I don't believe that you were busy, I just think that you could be as smart as to lie about it if you were Mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/28/11 at 08:07:03 71444042496A4053554453210 wrote:
Really, I have no idea what RDBU is playing this game. If he's Town, he just plays one of the worst games I've ever seen. He's just going with ANY bandwagon that's just existing. He doesn't even post a reasoning for anything. Look at this post, like he sais "So Darius or MVT..." as if it was already clear that we will lynch one of them. The last sentence is just plain bs as well, sure thing we all are going to roleclaim and Mafia can kill all Power roles that are left. Seriously, I have rarely heard worse ideas. Edited to remove other bolds than mine |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/28/11 at 08:22:55 I seriously don't understand RDBU's role claim. if he's townie and he's speaking the truth: will make it easier for mafia to find our remaining power roles if he's townie and he lying: townies should never ever lie because it only causes confusion if he's mafia, then it must be the easiest role claim ever, town vanilla, and as mario kart player thefrigz, everyone can claim that. i want to lynch him so badly vote RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 08:24:00 RDBU more like Really Dumb Bandwagon User. Guy brings squat to the table. Jumps on any bandwagon available without reasoning. Matt V, hasn't said anything in days. Not sure how he is in the game. Darius, makes a weak case against webinator that revolves around fank and supersilver, two idiots who played a poor game and were very hard to properly read. No one really knew how to treat those two and to say anyone except the mafia knew wtf was really going on with those players and who they really were is beyond my understanding. So web being wishy washy with them doesn't really bother me much. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 08:28:52 Off the record, I'd like to apologize to every player, regardless of their role, for being a hinderance to the game. It's all for fun in the end, but still. The store I work at is doing renovations, and so my shifts have been erratic and long. Now allow me to catch up on the past day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 08:38:27 1237243F2325560 wrote:
Let's see: You call me passive and then your first point completely contradicts that. Regarding 1, I went hard after Supr because Supr did something incredibly scummy. The fact that most of the game seemed to disagree with me about this is apparently because you all think it's fine to play like you're solely focused on trying not to get lynched, even by deleting a post to replace it with something entirely different, instead of trying to find scum (hint: this is a mafia mindset, not town). This also contradicts 3, which suggests all I do is call people town, which also contradicts 4 and 5, where you apparently suggest that a) I somehow helped to 'frame' Goose and b) I'm somehow scummy for identifying scummy/townie behaviour in other players. Is this because you think I'm mafia with Koopz and RDBU? 2 is what it is; I can tell you why I wasn't here on Saturday if you want, but I'm not here to make excuses. 6 and 7 are you trying to play both sides of the case: either you think I'm a dangerous player who would be dead if I was town, or you think I'm a player who hasn't contributed enough to the game. If it's the latter, it's one good reason why I'm not dead; if it's the former, it renders the latter null and void because you'd obviously think my play has warranted mafia killing me. Ignoring the fact that it's a total misrepresentation, I'm not even sure what 8 has to do with anything. 042132293533400 wrote:
very, very eager to get claims out in the open.[/quote] He already claimed. Flavour is a good way of verifying claims. NStride was the one who was eager to get his claim out in the open. Once he claimed I wanted to make sure the flavour matched up with the hints he'd been dropping and that his person matched his role, which it did. Can you tell me how this is different from what a bunch of other people did the rest of the day? 55646D6D55606D64010 wrote:
How convenient. Let's run this back: Padz: Vote Darius MVT: I'm so confused I can't believe NStride lied etc. Padz: Vote Darius MVT: We should lynch RDBU or TvL Padz: Vote Darius MVT: You know Padz, you make some great points about Darius So, Darius or MVT... Also, since I'll probably be going to hell today... ============ MVT post here. Rest is old above To be fair I was ignoring padz at the earlier point because he didn't give me any reason to look at you. Then when he made the points I actually looked back and was in agreeance with them. For me today it's either Darius, RDBU, or tvl. I'm in no rush to decide. edited to fix the post. quotes got all scrambled somehow |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 08:44:31 0326352E3234470 wrote:
How convenient. Let's run this back: Padz: Vote Darius MVT: I'm so confused I can't believe NStride lied etc. Padz: Vote Darius MVT: We should lynch RDBU or TvL Padz: Vote Darius MVT: You know Padz, you make some great points about Darius! [/quote] Let's try this again... To be fair I was ignoring padz at the earlier point because he didn't give me any reason to look at you. Then when he made the points I actually looked back and was in agreeance with them. For me today it's either Darius, RDBU, or tvl. I'm in no rush to decide. That's better. Disregard my above post. It says the same thing but the quotes got fucked up and I was running out of time to edit it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 08:45:12 Vote: Zwiebel Hasn't forcefully done anything this week, softdefending all the way through, I won't let you coast with your maf buddies to victory. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 09:01:21 062B35393E39305C0 wrote:
Answer my question again but look at my posts instead of my post numbers. MVT: so you actually didn't read what I said about Web, did you? The case had nothing to do with how difficult or not Supr and Fank were to read, it was the fact that he basically said 'lynch NStride, he's a liar and no good to the town like Suprsilvr and his post edit' when he actively avoided going after Supr on D1 for this, and then still tried to apply connectional tells between Supr and Fank despite stating that Supr was more likely town. I have provided plenty of evidence for how his stances are inconsistent and incompatible with a logical town thought process. Matt: is that your catchup post? Do you have a case on Zwiebel with actual examples? Do you have any reads on any other players? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 09:07:29 250013081412610 wrote:
Answer my question again but look at my posts instead of my post numbers. MVT: so you actually didn't read what I said about Web, did you? The case had nothing to do with how difficult or not Supr and Fank were to read, it was the fact that he basically said 'lynch NStride, he's a liar and no good to the town like Suprsilvr and his post edit' when he actively avoided going after Supr on D1 for this, and then still tried to apply connectional tells between Supr and Fank despite stating that Supr was more likely town. I have provided plenty of evidence for how his stances are inconsistent and incompatible with a logical town thought process. Matt: is that your catchup post? Do you have a case on Zwiebel with actual examples? Do you have any reads on any other players? [/quote] I did read your web case. Do people not understand that NSTRIDE WAS A LIAR? He lied about dying from 1 less lynch than everyone else. At that point EVERYONE who was online thought he was guarenteed scum. Webinator is no different. How at that point could he have been proven not scum? I agreed with Webinator too so if you have a problem with what he did there you have a problem with myself and just about every single other player in the game who did the same thing at that moment. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 09:16:12 Not exactly Darius, I've gotta run to work but will be back in 4 and a half hours. You're also a maf lean from me btw. Also still wanna hear more from Tim, hasn't said much all game. I get town leans from MVT padz and Ivo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 09:17:12 Maybe it is just because people equate "townie" to "telling the truth." Usually that is the correct case. However NStride for whatever reason (pretty much no reason) BLATANTLY lied to the town which cost us Goose. Probably the worst town play I've ever witnessed. In 99.9999% of the cases if this scenario was replayed with a million different players, at the point Goose placed the 8th vote and NStride didn't die, he was guarenteed scum. So webinator saying what he said is the truth and I agree with it wholeheartedly. Edit - Post was directed at Darius. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 09:19:47 I feel like I'm banging my head against a wall here. Read again: 3022252E29263328357673470 wrote:
Web never wanted Supr dead for the post edit. 'He's not a help to town' wasn't a reason then, but it is now? You should be less likely to policy lynch on D3, not more likely. The town reaction should be 'Shock lied, he must be mafia'. There's certainly no need to link it to Supr. A townie wouldn't be trying to provide extra reasoning to justify a lynch if they thought they were voting for lying scum. Web's pre-emptively giving an excuse for backing the Shock lynch. He doesn't say 'If he lied he's scum'. He says 'If he lied then he's not a help to town'. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 09:22:16 Ehh ya I guess but it's sketchy as fuck reasoning there. Web's overall reactions this game to me just have seen genuine, honest, and townish. I'd like to hear more from TVL & RDBU. Yo MattV, what do you think of those two? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 09:24:43 5446414A4D42574C511217230 wrote:
Seems genuine as fuck. Also his first post at the top of page 59 sounds townish. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 09:38:31 What's townie, the part where he wants the SK dead or the part where he calls Scott scum? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 09:43:32 5772617A6660130 wrote:
Both seemed appropriate at the moment. NStride looked 100% Admin and Scott's last ditch effort to save him for another day looked like he was on his team. Apparently they were on the seem team though. No one in their right mind would have guessed town though unless they had mafia knowledge of who is who already. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 09:49:12 Vote RDBU I'm not at all satisfied with his single post today and he is going to have to do a lot more. Claims vanilla...easy fucking way out. Plus I hate to play the math stats game and I very rarely bring anything like this up but 4 town vanillas are already dead. Low odds that he is another one. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 09:57:02 About padz: Early day 3, padz made these posts: 5C6D6876797C0C0 wrote:
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I asked him about them (repeatedly I might add), and got this answer: 635257494643330 wrote:
Seriously. Goose is the best player? And we shouldn't lynch him if he's a (good) mafia player? My take: he was anticipating a Goose lynch (after his vigorous defense of Suprsilver he was the obvious target) and was preparing to look innocent. Why was he so sure about him? Later the plan of Goose finishing off Shock came around. I informed: 023E393B372509201A560 wrote:
padz didn't jump on it (to avoid looking extremely suspicious), but instead produced this: 7D4C4957585D2D0 wrote:
I still don't understand what the hell he was talking about in his second sentence. padz, if you're reading this, can you clear this up please? Later though, he was clearly not so critical and not so concerned about Goose anymore: 4475706E6164140 wrote:
And in between his other (mostly one-line) posts, I found this: 0031342A2520500 wrote:
Are you role-claiming here? We do still have two killers out there... As for today, I already explained why I'd expect the mafia to come out fast with some accusations (to create chaos). And guess what: 1120253B3431410 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 10:00:35 6E564B4A4D66695558405C4B667C4F5C4B390 wrote:
Town lean from padz? Really? I could understand if you don't agree with my take on padz, but what on earth gives you a town lean on him?? He's made one-line posts mostly and hasn't said much of worth. 7A425F5E59727D414C54485F72685B485F2D0 wrote:
And this post very much fits in my theory of the mafia throwing random accusations around. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 10:02:46 MVT: that doesn't make any sense, though. Either NStride is SK or he's on Scott's team. He can't be both. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/28/11 at 11:03:15 yeah, i wonder what's up with padz claiming to have a killing role? 3 townies died tonight, meaning there's probably still at least 2 anti town killing roles? I am eager to get rid of padz, he seems too dangerous, and has not been helpful for town at all. problem is that he also only posts oneliners when he's town, he has always played like that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 11:16:46 71444042496A4053554453210 wrote:
Sorry if it's been said, but I'm still re-reading. This claim looks weird for me because I don't see why Frigz would be included randomly unless he was a mafia, or a power role. The names of karters seem to have something to do with their roles (at least mine does), so Frigz being vanilla seems weird. Also saw a Darius vote on me, I'll be up to speed in 15 minutes or so. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/28/11 at 11:19:48 704C4B4945577B5268240 wrote:
Seriously. Goose is the best player? And we shouldn't lynch him if he's a (good) mafia player?[/quote] YES |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 11:29:53 tvl you are coming off as town. MattV you need to contribute more buddy. I asked you a question and you haven't answered. Darius - idk dude. Have we ever reached a point of certainty that SK = admin, and that there are not more of them or possibly multiple sks? At this point I doubt that very much but back when web made those posts it was not nearly as clear. There still might be another admin or two, definitely not multiple SK's in one game though I don't think. Maybe one still is alive. Are you implying you are one of them? It seems to me how else could you be certain of this stuff? Fishy bro. RDBU - I think maf for what I said earlier. My final vote will be either Darius or RDBU. I still can't decide. Vote is currently on RDBU to provide pressure and hopefully a follow up post. Feeling is though that he won't post again. He has gotten away with the same strat (vote for biggest bandwagon and leave for the day) the whole game so probably feels like he can do it again. I encourage the seer if he is still alive to scan whoever doesn't get lynched of these two. I haven't made my choice yet though on who I want dead. I think they might be connected though actually. Hard to say but both look bad. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Timothy on 03/28/11 at 11:34:00 Wait, I'm phucking confused. I was suspicious of Scott and tried to lock him last night but he still died? :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 11:41:31 To be entirely honest, Saturday I was working the whole day, got home and it was near the time of lynch. I logged on and by the time I had re-read everything there was maybe an hour left. I didn't really understand the full plan that the town had agreed on at that point (lynch NStride due to his hated town claim), so I was trying to figure out everything in my head but ended up posting it, making it sounds really scattered. Thus you got my two posts that directly contradicted each other regarding the Goose/NStride lynch. Shock made a great lie (I die with one less vote), and he didn't. Why would he say something that wasn't true to make the town go into this long drawn out plan? Made a lot more sense to lynch Shock at that point, however he flipped town. Then you go into this whole, "softdefending SS" thing which I don't get. I suspected fank over SS because of the fact that fank was blatantly ignoring the list edit which had been stated (later turning out to be just a simple mistake). As for those three statements you put, you tried to say that I was not making sense. If you want me to paraphrase it for you, "SS looked like he was genuinely realizing he made a mistake, however fank was trying to push it away and overlook it (at the time), so because of that fank looks bad. If fank flips maf, SS looks maf. The third was a theoretical statement. I agree though that Scott was leading a lot of the discussion there and I kind of sheeped because I was nervous the day would end without my input which wouldn't be good. Darius you trying to come up with this huge case against me looks weird. Why were you absent for a lot of the action in past days, to just show up now? Now for some other stuff. Where is Sword? He's been gone for a while, had TWO POSTS on day 3, and no votes.He also wasn't really present in the Goose/NStride fiasco due to time zones probably. Interested to see his reaction. Why was he absent on such a crucial day. Riding out the turmoil? Mafiash. RDBU seems sus too, especially saying that he can't post because everything he says is wrong, and again offering no input. I would assume we only have a few townies before maf wins, so people have to talk now. MattV, you're totally useless this game. It's past the point of excuses, and if you're Town MattV, you're doing a horrible job of playing your part. I'll be on for a while. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 11:44:06 7A4B42427A4F424B2E0 wrote:
It's a very easy hiding place, as he was town last game. A couple people (including myself) gave him a slight town lean in the beginning for having the same playstyle, but truth is a non-contributing townie is almost as bad as maf. RDBU I wouldn't place as the best lynch, maybe a NK because we're getting close to the danger zone and it's almost impossible to read him. If it keeps up though, he'll become an almost necessary lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 11:53:57 686261627C621B0 wrote:
"lock him" ????? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 11:55:23 5F6E67675F6A676E0B0 wrote:
"lock him" ?????[/quote] probably block. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 11:55:31 786A6D66616E7B607D3E3B0F0 wrote:
LOL [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 11:56:59 2331363D3A35203B266560540 wrote:
"lock him" ?????[/quote] probably block.[/quote] Why would roleblocking him prevent him from dying? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/28/11 at 11:57:07 Web, Sword is dead, he won't answer your questions ;D I guess he was killed by Mafia, but we can't be sure about that. I think fank was killed by the vig, I don't think either Mafia or a potentially third party would kill him, since he wouldn't help Town anyway. That leaves Scott and Sword. Since I still believe that the Mafia killed Sportsguy N1 and Zarkov N2, we can assume that they went for another one that is not posting much and could get a danger, namely Sword. Dunno how Scott died, I know padz was saying something like he would kill Scott if he didn't vote goose, not sure atm though. Anyway, by not knowing the fact that Sword is that, you're probably Town. You could also be pretending to not know that Sword is dead, but that posts does seem to be natural so I'll give you a Town credit for now. Web, if RDBU isn't the best lynch for you today, what would be your choice if you had to vote now? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 11:57:09 That looked mafiash, did he give an excuse that I missed? I tried to look through his posts but couldn't find anything. EDIT - Wow. My stupidity is just amazing right now. At least I didn't comment on how Scott looked scummy ;D. Sorry about that. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 11:58:16 4250575C5B54415A470401350 wrote:
It's a very easy hiding place, as he was town last game. A couple people (including myself) gave him a slight town lean in the beginning for having the same playstyle, but truth is a non-contributing townie is almost as bad as maf. RDBU I wouldn't place as the best lynch, maybe a NK because we're getting close to the danger zone and it's almost impossible to read him. If it keeps up though, he'll become an almost necessary lynch. [/quote] So you're telling me that you want to allow RDBU to keep getting away with this scummy tactic? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 12:02:30 012C323E393E375B0 wrote:
Out of the alive people, it would be Darius just because he's randomly throwing out every single theory he can think of, which seems like a defense to add contribution to his game resume. I'm not ready to do that right now as he has 2 votes already so it's useless to wagon without him saying anything else to contribute to the case. MattV would be a suspect, but lynching because of inactivity is something I don't like to do. If he doesn't post today, huge suspect. TvL's analysis is looking better, maybe he's adjusting to the game forum wise, and padz is finally getting out of his troll the first days slump with analysis, which is good. Both seem neutral to me, with padz as a town lean |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 12:04:36 0130393901343930550 wrote:
It's a very easy hiding place, as he was town last game. A couple people (including myself) gave him a slight town lean in the beginning for having the same playstyle, but truth is a non-contributing townie is almost as bad as maf. RDBU I wouldn't place as the best lynch, maybe a NK because we're getting close to the danger zone and it's almost impossible to read him. If it keeps up though, he'll become an almost necessary lynch. [/quote] So you're telling me that you want to allow RDBU to keep getting away with this scummy tactic?[/quote] i just think it's a huge risk to go on a rdbu lynch just because it seems like it could flip 50/50. He's hugely scummy, but his playstyle regardless looks like a lurker who posts obvious statements and votes without thinking about it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 12:17:18 If you're proposing Darius as the alternative then I'm down. However anyone else today I would not agree with. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 12:20:26 Yeah. That's my best choice right now, I'm not going to vote until he talks more though, as I already said it's kind of a useless wagon otherwise. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 12:21:23 3527202B2C23362D307376420 wrote:
Wait, why is it useless otherwise? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 12:26:10 I mean, I can Vote: Darius but I just want to hear him say what he thinks of others calling him out, since he hasn't been on in a while. Getting a third vote on him isn't really any different than two votes, that's just my opinion of it. What's the point on voting if there hasn't been any other analysis. Meh, it's just the to bandwagon, to not bandwagon mentality. Also, just found this post, and my suspicions of MattV skyrocketed. 122A3736311A1529243C20371A00332037450 wrote:
How can MattV call someone out for doing nothing (except maybe RDBU), if he himself has been useless. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Timothy on 03/28/11 at 12:37:58 As part of my role MVT. I don't understand what kind of power can kill someone while they're being 'protected' by someone elses power. I've only ever played mafia on this forum so perhaps there are some roles I'm unfamiliar with. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/28/11 at 12:39:00 @padz, I really really want you to explain these posts you made: 7D4C4957585D2D0 wrote:
What did shock not shut up about and what did he ruin? 0031342A2520500 wrote:
Do you have the power to kill at night? If not, why did you say this? @RVZ: I hope you'll follow up on your 5 posts so far. Perhaps again at 4 am? @RDBU: You'd better start talking if you're town and want to avoid us lynching another townie. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/28/11 at 12:43:42 5C56555648562F0 wrote:
You haven't just done what I think, have you? If yes, that's the worst thing you could do. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/28/11 at 12:45:43 makes me so sad if we have to waste a day lynching rdbu, what if he is a nontalking townie again? He seems to play not to get lynched instead of find the mafia. That strategy also made him live to the end in my game. And he made town lose that one. I'm no big fan of lynching Darius right now, he could very well be maf, but at least he's giving info, and was one of the main supporters of the suprsilver lynch day 1. This game is no other than other games, it's the quiet people that are mafia, we don't want to end up with lynch or lose with RDBU, Matt V and RVZ (for example) But we are heading towards it now the most active people have died (and guess what, all active people were town) Oh, and i've just seen the timothy role claim, what do we have to think of that? You've got a protection role timothy? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 12:47:05 3D37343729374E0 wrote:
Oh sorry. You posted "lock" I assumed that meant block and not protect. Not sure how scott died if you are protector. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/28/11 at 12:48:06 Isn't protector = doctor? That would be ridiculous stupid to claim now, but since you're all so calm I guess it's a different role. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/28/11 at 12:50:21 79544A4641464F230 wrote:
I sure hope it is, because if it isn't it might be game over. What's the difference then? Protector might be bodyguard, that's the only other thing I can think of. In other games I've played, BG protects target, and has a chance to kill the attacker or die in place, or have nothing happen. Don't know about the percentage chance Honko might have set the parameters differently. Again, could be wrong though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/28/11 at 13:11:17 4E5C5B5057584D564B080D390 wrote:
nope yr maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/28/11 at 13:12:39 073B3C3E32200C251F530 wrote:
I'll see what I can do. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by padz on 03/28/11 at 14:20:57 605C5B5955476B4278340 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/28/11 at 14:50:45 but what does that say? It's an interesting find of course and what's up with calling tim obvious town, that looks like a lie to me ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 03/28/11 at 15:50:12 *Sigh* I roleclaimed just so you didn't lynch another townie. Remember that this is only my second full game - simply reading through games only get's you so far. About me posting stuff that has already been said, by the time I sign off for the night and get back on, most of the stuff I can think of is already there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 16:08:50 586D696B6043697A7C6D7A080 wrote:
So are you implying you aren't actually vanilla town? wtf Not enough posting going on here. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Honko on 03/28/11 at 16:16:54 Votals [3] Darius - (padz), RDBU, Zwiebel, Web [2] RDBU - Ivo, MVT [1] Zwiebel - MattV [1] padz - TvL [1] Web - Darius [1] MVT - RVZ, (padz) Day ends in 26 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 16:22:39 What is this roleclaim clustervuck nonsense. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 16:29:16 Seriously, everyone is still all over the place because there's too many people. I'm keeping my vote right the fuck where it is unless someone else posts something extremely sus (unlikely). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 16:31:32 5F6E67675F6A676E0B0 wrote:
Matt V, you aren't reading the game and that's incredibly frustrating. Also webinator called you out on several points (actually plenty of them) and you haven't responded. Then you come back with a useless post. I said it before that you have to step it up. Apparently that hasn't resonated in your head. Maybe this will... Unvote Vote MattV |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 16:37:52 I think that RDBU may be a legit townie and tVl is prob mafia. I purposely didn't answer web because I also think he's maf. The people I think are town are MVT, Ivo, Tim, padz, and maybe RVZ. Not sure about everyone else. Ask about someone in detail and I'll give you a response (directed at MVT obv). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 16:40:34 I'll admit that I only quickly scanned through the posts because I didn't get on until two hours after I promised to do so. Gonna read again now and hopefully add more. I really do apologize again to all for not being on D3. edited to add sentence. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 16:44:26 The only person I trust 100% is MVT. MVT, ask me anything you need all in one post and I'll answer as best I can. Also, after a couple posts I just read, if Zwiebel isn't going to get lynched, Darius would be a good alternative. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 16:48:50 That's pretty much all I had to say. Just needed you to speak. Unvote Vote Darius It's either him or RDBU still. I dunno if he needs much more pressure and I don't want a quick lynch so I might recant the vote if people start piling on. Might be a good lure though for maf to try to quick pile but I'll be prepared to unvote fast if they try to pull such a tactic. Matt I really get a townie vibe from TVL. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/28/11 at 16:52:10 And you get a town lean from Web too? At least regardless of how bad I play, I can't be worse than NStride. [smiley=roll.gif] What are your thoughts on Zwiebel? I'm still not prepared to take my vote off him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/28/11 at 21:16:33 407865646348477B766E72654852617265170 wrote:
I'm up in the air on him. I got town vibes from web and tvl. Maf vibes from Darius and RDBU. The rest I'm also up in the air with really. Heck I can only choose one person a day to vote. Can only go on my strongest hunches. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/28/11 at 23:12:32 485A5D56515E4B504D0E0B3F0 wrote:
I was out on Saturday. All day. If you really want to know, I was helping someone move house and then we ended up going out afterwards. Yesterday was my day off and I was at home. I needed to catch up so I did. I can't believe that people are now calling me mafia because I turned up and contributed to the game. As far as I can see, your attitude is that because I wasn't posting as much on other days, I'm scummy because I used my time yesterday to post more than I normally can. Now you, and other people, are saying that it's suspicious that I came in and made a big case on you out of nowhere. Guess what? I read back. I reviewed your posts. I thought that what you said about NStride contradicted your attitude to Suprsilvr. Are we only lynching from a list of set suspects? I pressure who I want when I want. This is not randomly throwing out every single theory I can think of. This is the result of reading the game and thus actually noticing when people do scummy things. Tell me, which of my points do you think are 'random'? As for the NStride/Suprsilvr situation, I'm going to break it down as simply as I can: 1. I know NStride lied. Lying is scummy. It was not wrong to lynch him for it. If you'd said simply that, I would not have found it scummy. You didn't just say that; you overjustified it by linking NStride to Suprsilvr's post edit, implying that was also lynch-worthy when you never wanted to lynch Supr for his post edit. 2. It's probably easier to highlight my problem with your Fank suspicion if you answer a question for me; what would have the motivation been for Fank to ignore Supr's post edit if Fank was mafia and Supr was town? Finally, I really need to reiterate: saying me coming back and posting a case on someone is 'weird' is utterly ridiculous. This goes for everyone suspecting me because I managed to post more yesterday than I usually can. You are essentially calling me scum for reading the game in extensive detail and using what I found in my read to put pressure on players who did scummy things. If someone has points against me they would actually like me to answer, please go ahead and ask. If someone has a problem with any of my points that they don't get, go ahead and ask me to clarify. On a general note, can everyone please stop claiming? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Honko on 03/28/11 at 23:15:58 Votals [4] Darius - (padz), RDBU, Zwiebel, Web, MVT [1] RDBU - Ivo, (MVT) [1] Zwiebel - MattV [1] padz - TvL [1] Web - Darius [1] MVT - RVZ, (padz) [0] MattV - (MVT) Day ends in 19 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/29/11 at 01:42:16 My list of scumpoints: RVZ: 90 (Came out of nowhere with random accusations today, pretty much what I expected from mafia) padz: 85 (Is making nonsense posts and fails to answer my most prominent questions about them) Matt V: 70 (Also started the day with accusations. Defends the people I consider most scummy, attacks people I have a town lean on) RDBU: 50 (Is either useless townie or mafia; could be a fank, could be a Suprsilver. Don't know) Tim: 50 (Can't remember much of worth from him) Web: 40 (Not solid; MVT built a nice case. "Accidental" Sword-attack looks suspicious to me) Darius: 30 (Is put under heat, but reacts like I'd expect from a townie) MVT: 25 (I had some early suspicions, but can't identify any really scummy behavior) Ivo: 20 (Felt good about him on day 2, but can't judge him based on day 3) Zwiebel: 10 (Have not picked up any maf vibes from him) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 02:39:12 Stop focussing on me TvL, I'm town. Or in case your maf it makes sence yes actually. maf leans MVT TvL town leans Ivo Zwiebel |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 02:40:59 We should lynch MVT, my gut tells me he's maf. He's putting up an act I tell ya. He's not himself, he's not Tunzi. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 02:58:39 TvL: does that mean you're more confident RVZ is mafia than Padz? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/29/11 at 04:06:18 It's hard to read padz because his posts don't make much sense. I'm leaning on him harder because he needs to clear them up. RVZ is easier to read. Look at his above posts. I'm mafia because I suspect he is mafia. MVT is mafia because his gut says so. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Zwiebel on 03/29/11 at 05:11:27 4F627C70777079150 wrote:
After that post, I switched my vote to Super because I said I'd lynch Super over J-Cop/fank as well. Then this: 5C796A716D6B180 wrote:
Wtf, you said you want to lynch Super because you're convinced he is scum. Then I say I'd be ready to set up a silver lynch as well and you say "Your reasoning is poor, I'll go for J-Cop instead". Seriously, if you were convinced that Super was Mafia, you'd have stayed there as a Townie. Maybe you knew that Silver was Mafia, and when you saw that there actually were some others who wanted to lynch him as well, you jump to J-Cop so that he can survive at least 1 more day? I don't know why I haven't thought over this earlier. [/quote] Would you answer this Darius? Why didn't you stay on Super after that? 5 hours could be enough time to lynch another person, and you just say that Silver was so obviously Mafia for you. This basically contradicts your behaviour here. J-Cop was in the leads of votes anyway at the time I think and fank was supposed to be vig killed iirc. You haven't answered this by now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/29/11 at 05:34:34 Four votes for Darius. I don't get it. Of course I'm not sure he's town; I'm not even 80% sure he's town. But we're running out of townies and we really need a good lynch today. And I think there are better options than Darius. I've said it before, but no one seems to listen to me. Since 6 votes is already enough for a lynch today, I want to avoid the risk of two stupid bandwagonners coming along before you've had a chance to reconsider. And there's not much time left to reconsider. The four people who have voted Darius: - RDBU: saw some early pressure on Darius and jumped on the train. As usual. - Web: was pushed by MVT to vote Darius and gave in. - Zwiebel: You referred to a day 3 post of yours about Darius. You gave him a hard time for pushing Suprsilver really hard. Of course I can see mafia supporting a buddy's lynch, but pushing it that hard, on day 1 already? It's possible of course, I have to give you that. But it's far from conclusive. EDIT: But I am curious to see his answer to your post, I must admit. - MVT: You are set on either RDBU or Darius today. You've mentioned it numerous times already. Why are you so narrow sighted? You first went after Darius after agreeing with padz. Guess what he did? padz jumped off the train and voted for you. I don't know why you are so negative about Darius (for all I know you could be seer and have scanned him), but at least he is responding and his posts make some sense. Btw, yes, I am narrow sighted too. But my suspects aren't addressing my concerns and no one seems to care about my posts. I would not vote for an RDBU lynch either btw, but I wouldn't mind it that much. We need to look more at the lurkers and bs-posters. Considering we have so many, it provides an easy hiding ground for mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/29/11 at 05:52:31 You're getting it the wrong way TvL. I'm not going after Darius for pushing so hard for the Silver lynch, but for stepping back from his decision when he saw that I also wanted Super lynched. When he was so sure that Silver was Mafia, why did he step back, even if there were only 5 hours left? 5 hours can be enough to completely change the lynch. That's what I want to know from him before I even consider taking my vote off him. And TvL, don't worry, everyone reads your posts. Also, I like your posts, and I don't think you could play that smart if you were Mafia in your first game. The problem about it is, that we can only lynch one person today TvL. We should of course investigate in different directions, but everyone has a "prime suspect" he's mostly thinking is Mafia and therefore going to pressure the most. But you're right, we shouldn't forget everyone else about it. Also, I don't think anyone is going to vote Darius off somewhere before EOD, since it would be really stupid. We have no conclusive evidence he is Mafia and we need every time we have to find out more. Everyone who will end the day early at this point would be Mafia and we would have an easy lynch(maybe even vig kill, if there's still one left) for the next day. So nothing to fear about 4 votes now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 05:58:28 416C727E797E771B0 wrote:
After that post, I switched my vote to Super because I said I'd lynch Super over J-Cop/fank as well. Then this: 5C796A716D6B180 wrote:
Wtf, you said you want to lynch Super because you're convinced he is scum. Then I say I'd be ready to set up a silver lynch as well and you say "Your reasoning is poor, I'll go for J-Cop instead". Seriously, if you were convinced that Super was Mafia, you'd have stayed there as a Townie. Maybe you knew that Silver was Mafia, and when you saw that there actually were some others who wanted to lynch him as well, you jump to J-Cop so that he can survive at least 1 more day? I don't know why I haven't thought over this earlier. [/quote] Would you answer this Darius? Why didn't you stay on Super after that? 5 hours could be enough time to lynch another person, and you just say that Silver was so obviously Mafia for you. This basically contradicts your behaviour here. J-Cop was in the leads of votes anyway at the time I think and fank was supposed to be vig killed iirc. You haven't answered this by now. [/quote] There was not significant movement on the Supr wagon and I didn't think Fank was mafia. I could see that if there was going to be a late wagon change, it was much more likely to be to Fank than Supr as most people thought that Supr was townie who had made a mistake and that Fank was either mafia or an incredibly annoying townie who needed to be lynched. J-Cop had just been lurky and opportunistic and I preferred his lynch over Fank's, so it made sense to vote J-Cop. Yes, I would have preferred a Supr lynch, but I was also pretty sure that people weren't going to change their mind in 5 hours when I'd been arguing with the town for half the day over how scummy Supr was with very few people agreeing with me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/29/11 at 05:59:04 705D434F484F462A0 wrote:
I was probably looking at another post from you on day 3 then. That's also why I edited my post after I saw yours, because it's a fair point. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/29/11 at 06:14:38 19213C3D3A111E222F372B3C110B382B3C4E0 wrote:
I just saw that, what is this. How can you trust someone 100% in this game unless you know what his role is? Was that a Mafia slip? @Darius so you basically voted J-Cop to save fank from a lynch? Well, at least that's an explanation, even if I'm still not perfectly alright with it. What would be your preferred lynch today? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 06:22:32 If you want to look at it like that, sure. Supr, Fank and J-Cop were the viable lynches at that stage. From scum to town, my reads in order were Supr-J-Cop-Fank. I could have left my vote parked on Supr but I don't think that would have achieved anything and I preferred J-Cop's lynch to Fank's. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Honko on 03/29/11 at 07:17:52 Votals [4] Darius - (padz), RDBU, Zwiebel, Web, MVT [1] RDBU - Ivo, (MVT) [1] Zwiebel - MattV [1] padz - TvL [1] Web - Darius [1] MVT - RVZ, (padz) [0] MattV - (MVT) Day ends in 11 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 08:02:03 Oh, and today my preferred lynch is obviously Web. If not Web, I'd say RDBU, who has done nothing but back the popular wagons all game and then make excuses about not being very experienced when people call him scummy. Who are your first and second lynch preferences? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 08:24:10 182423212D3F133A004C0 wrote:
To clarify, Darius built a case that Web is maf and I argued that web gave me a town vibe. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/29/11 at 08:31:15 ^ You're right, sorry about that Darius/MVT |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 08:47:20 6B5750525E4C6049733F0 wrote:
I said this same exact thing at the beginning of the day if you recall. Padz sort of cut the idea down saying I can go ahead and put pressure on people but "Darius, time is up." ah what the hell I'll stop being lazy and get the quotes. 0A3B32320A3F323B5E0 wrote:
I think that's quite the accusation to go with there. I have probably been the most opinionated player this entire game except maybe fank. You RVZ have probably been the least opinionated player with a toss up of RDBU and Matt V who have gotten by the entire game with no heat or pressure whatsoever. Quite disturbing that you would want to go another day without questioning them. Also about me having "no reasoning", when 5 townies die in 1 day night cycle, I think it's a good point to take a step back and think while letting the completely inactives speak up for a change.[/quote] 3001041A1510600 wrote:
So that's that. About RVZ, I'm not even going to bother further addressing him. Using his "gut" with zero effort at reasoning or facts at this point of the game is foolish childish town or mafia looking for a quick lynch. Tvl, I mentioned this earlier but I will rehash it. My focus is not that narrow. A player can only have their vote on one person. I narrowed my focus to RDBU and Darius. I got town vibes from you and web. The rest of the players I am simply neutral on. Partly because they aren't posting much, partly because of lack of evidence at this point. Who would you prefer Tvl.... RDBU or Darius? I trust you as a town lean for the moment and might go along with your choice. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by TvL on 03/29/11 at 09:05:02 Unfortunately, I've got to go in about 10 min. I think I'll be online again sometime during the final three hours, for half an hour or so, but I'm not sure. I posted a scumlist on page 64 (post #1590) and still stand by it. I'd like to redraw your attention to these posts from padz on day 3: 7D4C4957585D2D0 wrote:
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I do not know how to interpret these posts, other than perhaps huge mafia slips. In the first post, he might have referred to Shock's role-claiming (with not shutting up) and "ruined everything" might indicate that he knew he was town. But he went on to push Shock's lynch very hard. My vote stays on padz for now. If I return, I'd be happy to place a bandwagon-vote on RVZ or Matt V. I will not support a RDBU lynch (unless maybe he keeps quiet) but wouldn't oppose. I do oppose a Darius lynch. But of course I might change my mind based on developments to come. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 09:16:58 The only line padz posted that bothered me is this one: 0637322C2326560 wrote:
In particular the bold. I'm not quite sure how anyone can be "very clear" about another player at this point. Especially very clear maf lean, which padz apparently says he has here. Could it be a maf bussing another maf? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 09:19:29 I figure Padz is behind my lynch, so that puts the count at 5 people who want to lynch me. People need to start making decisions. If no-one is behind a Web lynch then I will back an RDBU lynch. I urge everyone who hasn't to read my case on Web; I think I've made it clear why I think his opinions are fabricated. Tim, you need to either declare if you want to lynch me or vote for someone else. Thus far all you've done today is claimed unnecessarily. You haven't provided us with a single opinion on anyone since you voted for Supr. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/29/11 at 09:24:37 I think we're forgetting our town vig. Why not lynch one and NK the other? Still not the best bet because of RDBU posting nothing. Looking back at the votes, RDBU and Koopz were the first two to place votes on Supr D2, Koopz was trying to blend in, and prob would've done a good job of it imo. But did RDBU do the same thing? I'm not sure he would've done so without coaching from his mafia buddies, if he did it at all. He did a slight flip to fank, but then back to Supr before EOD. Still sus of Web as well regardless. 0C021C480 wrote:
We know he's posted two townies and a maf. Do you think he was 2/2 or 3/1? 263433383F30253E236065510 wrote:
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Taunting the town to vote you? Doesn't seem very helpful imo. unvote Vote : SuprSilver This just pushed me over the edge. Until I see that list, it isn't changing. As confusing as fank is, you don't appear to care that the town might make a mistake and vote you off.[/quote] Votes Supr for putting him on the aforementioned list. Softbussing to blend in to town? edited to add one sentence. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/29/11 at 09:27:53 I'm second-guessing my sus[picion of Zwiebel. I'm trying not to be biased because he's been tossing lots of names out all game, and sometimes it seems like he's just trying to stay unnoticed. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 09:32:48 I'm not sure I get what you're saying about Zwiebel there. Do you think he was throwing a lot of names out to try and stay out of suspicion? Totally agree on Web. It's clear that he voted Supr there for a much weaker reason than Supr's post edit. My guess is that he was worried he'd overdone it with the Supr defence and wanted to get a vote out there to distance himself from Supr. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/29/11 at 09:40:21 7B7172716F71080 wrote:
Votes for someone not even in the majority for no reason. 43494A495749300 wrote:
:-/ I know you're right and I shouldn't let myself get so frustrated by his ridiculous play... unvote Gonna check back to Goose's role claim... @ Zwiebel - if Supr gets lynched and is town, what would the next plan of action be?[/quote] Unvotes just because Zwiebel told him to. Obv now it looks like he did the smart thing, but he didn't do it of his own accord. 242E2D2E302E570 wrote:
Another vote for no good reason. Looks like a bandwagoning vote, 8th of 10 votes needed. Nothing else to go on as he was almost as inactive D3 as me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/29/11 at 09:47:14 That's exactly what I'm saying Darius. RDBU is completely fucked up in the head and quoting his posts would be a waste because everyone knows how bad he plays. I only need to quote one. 31040002092A0013150413610 wrote:
Vote for no reason, then roleclaim when under no pressure yet at the start of the day, he was simply asked to post. We need to decide whether his roleclaim is legit. Is RDBU the kind of player to do all these things? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Matt V on 03/29/11 at 09:49:01 I've gotta go to work now, and won't be on before EOD. Hopefully I've managed to post some stuff worth speculation, let's go get 'em town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 10:03:46 If RDBU doesn't say anything again before EOD I will not hesitate to switch my vote to him. Also Tim is flying under the radar with that big claim and now lurking. Could be an easy thing for a maf to do. Why the fuck else would you claim doctor with no pressure? Oh ya maybe cuz ur not actually doctor! Also note the accusations I gave out on padz about his possible connection with Darius. That's all for now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/29/11 at 10:04:21 0A2F3C273B3D4E0 wrote:
I think by now it's 50/50 between you and RDBU. I still think you could very well be Mafia, but at least you came up with an "understandable" reason for why you voted J-Cop over Silver. I'm undecided at the moment, I guess I'll think about it and decide my vote later. You have done much more than RDBU, but you're also a lot smarter than him in this game so we should always keep an eye on you. I think Web is Town because of the fact that he forgot that Sword was dead, which seemed honest to me, so I wouldn't consider voting him off if he doesn't do something stupid today. Tim claimed something protective, and I don't like that he vanished right after it and hasn't returned until now. But we need to hear from him first of all again and I don't think he'd be worth a candidate to lynch as well, since he hasn't done something suspicious until now besides not being really active. Also I can see TvL's point about padz, I don't understand what he's doing. He has played pretty active on D3, and now he's been silent today again, without giving much useful information or pressuring anyone. I can't say that I really like it, nor can I say that I can see the sense of it. @Matt what am I supposed to do, should I just look after one person and not look at the others? I have my priorities of who I think are Mafia, but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't look at others as well. I think I have backed up most of my thoughts with good reasons and I don't see why that doesn't help us, it at least brings people to talk. Also, to the active people, what do you think about Matt saying that he trusts MVT 100%? No one has really said anything about that yet. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Timothy on 03/29/11 at 11:39:39 49716C6D6A414E727F677B6C415B687B6C1E0 wrote:
Votes for someone not even in the majority for no reason. 43494A495749300 wrote:
:-/ I know you're right and I shouldn't let myself get so frustrated by his ridiculous play... unvote Gonna check back to Goose's role claim... @ Zwiebel - if Supr gets lynched and is town, what would the next plan of action be?[/quote] Unvotes just because Zwiebel told him to. Obv now it looks like he did the smart thing, but he didn't do it of his own accord. 242E2D2E302E570 wrote:
Another vote for no good reason. Looks like a bandwagoning vote, 8th of 10 votes needed. Nothing else to go on as he was almost as inactive D3 as me.[/quote] Original vote on Goose was because he was pissing me off. I didn't realise he had votes on him so I didn't want to just place a random vote to look like I had a legit opinion. He had voters which meant my vote counted; Goose was playing strangely and didn't really help the game. Unvoting was fair enough, Timur has seemed legit so far and having second thoughts about the vote made me realise the vote was ultimately pointless. Supr had been a suspect from the start, and seemed like the best possible lynch. I knew I wasn't going to be here for the last few hours of the day so at least adding one vote to Supr's total meant that Goose was less likely to be lynched and I wouldn't feel guilty about an emotional vote that could hurt the town (Goose). Sorry I haven't brought much since day 2. Maybe I should have opted out because of my trip to Dublin but being out for a whole day makes catching up difficult. Vote: MattV You're completely barking up the wrong tree. I showed great involvement and good posting early on. It's easy to pick on inactives isn't it? Do you have the balls to actually pin pressure on someone active and suspect at the same time? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 11:47:29 0C303735392B072E14580 wrote:
yo guys, i pretty much agree with the bottom 5 of this list, i prefer to continue the game with these players and get rid of several of the people in the top 5. How much would it suck if town had to rely on the 5 people up there? That's why i don't think darius is the best lynch out there, he still was one of the main contributors for the suprsilver lynch. I also think Matt V is EXTREMELY scummy, let me take a look at some of his posts: Quote:
so fake Quote:
bullshit, you don't want to answer him. As a townie you should generaly try to answer all questions, you've got nothing to lose right? Quote:
what's up mafia man? You know all? Quote:
A superconfusing list, and now he's attacking Tim? This list was made to confuse, without any reasoning. Quote:
in other words: "fuck discussion, i won't change my ungrounded vote" Yeah, I don't trust Matt V at all We've got something like 8 hours left right? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 11:49:56 And it doesn't seem anybody seriously wants to lynch RDBU anyway. Unvote Vote Matt V |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Timothy on 03/29/11 at 11:55:48 RDBU is a donk. Sure he may be maf, but tbh we have 3? or so mafia left and I'd rather a dangerous one get lynched. If RDBU ends up being maf and is the last one alive he'll get slaughtered. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 12:15:51 Unvote Anyone that's voting Darius is prob maf. Allthough Darius might be scum it's a STUPID idea voting an active guy out. It will only shut up the game, which maf wants it to do. I see RDBU, Web, MVT and Zwiebel voting Darius. Web and MVT are high on my scum link but they're pretty active so... Vote: RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 12:30:17 Back and re-reading. RDBU lynch I think is stupid because it tells us almost nothing, while a Darius lynch lets us know a huge amount of info. RVZ, looking at the post above I partially agree with you on not wanting to halt discussion, but I do hope you realize that inactivity doesn't always mean scum, and we can't just continue to look at those who don't talk because it's coming down to the point where a cycle like last could put the town in a must lynch maf situation. @Matt V, I quoted those two posts to show how he was completely "giving up" and taunting the town, daring them to vote him. Regardless that I was on the list or not, it was very stupid scum play. That's never worked as a mafia, no town in their right mind would say it, and what do you know? he flipped maf. Anyway, I'll re-read better to get a sense of what happened in the page I was gone. Darius is still my main lynch for now, with MattV second if a switch is necessary. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 12:37:19 5077677C7A737361120 wrote:
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Thing about this RVZ is you're pretty much saying the people are maf that are pressuring you, which seems like you're a little scared of having pressure put on you. Obviously it doesn't completely kill you but it's something I did when I was mafia before, so it seems like it's a possibility. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 12:48:19 I agree with ivo in the fact that I'd rather get burned by a player who is credibly defending themselves than by an idiot who doesn't post. I'd feel awful if RDBU wins the game as maf using the same strat (vote for biggest bandwagon then leave for the day) every day. I also agree with RVZ that activity is extremely important. I'd like him to continue to contribute along with MattV. I also don't like that padz doesn't answer ANY of my questions directed towards him. I let him go on the first question about Scott cuz I didn't want to push him on something that might reveal his role. Then I asked him some little questions about other players and he still ignored them. That's bothersome. I will vote RDBU if he does not consciously defend himself soon. Maf leans in order from most to least at this exact moment... RDBU > Darius > padz > MattV Still town leans on tvl and web. Rest are unclear. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 12:55:31 Forgot to add this to my above post... Unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 12:56:43 273532393E31243F226164500 wrote:
7C5B4B50565F5F4D3E0 wrote:
Thing about this RVZ is you're pretty much saying the people are maf that are pressuring you, which seems like you're a little scared of having pressure put on you. Obviously it doesn't completely kill you but it's something I did when I was mafia before, so it seems like it's a possibility.[/quote] You nor MVT didn't put pressure on me at all so that doesn't make any sense. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 12:57:03 RDBU seems to me like a lynch that would come up in the works for tomorrow, or a much better nightkill. If our vig is alive RDBU should be the target tonight. I just think it's a huge waste to put a day's work on a player that could turn out to be completely useless town. Might be because I'm paranoid from the past games having so many noob towns, but lynching him today would just seem like a major waste of D4. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 12:59:27 As a matter of fact, I didn't got pressured all game. I got a total of 0 votes on me the whole game :) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 13:01:07 what are you asking for? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:01:55 475552595E51445F420104300 wrote:
No but, with inactive people left you don't come anywhere at all. So voting Darius out is the worst thing town can do right now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 13:02:04 3321262D2A25302B367570440 wrote:
What's your suggestion than on the lynch? The "vig" has been completely unreliable so far and hasn't listened to who we tell him to kill anyway if there even is a vig. He isn't doing very well. I don't trust a vig to kill RDBU. I wish he would be reliable and then I wouldn't mind as much taking the risk of killing someone else. RDBU is also probably the lowest risk lynch available as well. High % chance mafia low % chance n00b town. Also he hasn't given ANY defense. And keeps using the same strat day in day out and getting away with it. I'm sorry but I just can't let him use that fucking retarded strat another day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:05:14 Even if RDBU's lynch won't tell us much, it's the best and only option imo to do. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 13:05:37 I would also like to shine the spotlight on Tim. He is also very fishy to me. I should have added him to my maf leans ahead of padz and MattV at the moment. Here is what he did: 1. Claims he "locked" Scott. 2. Says he is the doctor and protected Scott. 3. Disappears. That would be a great maf move because he can now get away from all day pressure. But why the fuck would he claim this now if he was town!!!? There was no pressure on him whatsoever. I think he slipped up big time. Very suspect. The more I think about it I might not be opposed to lynching him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 13:08:24 i don't have a clue what tim did and why he did that, it was a terrible move anyway. Why would mafia do that? hope to prevent getting lynched Why would town do that? Prevent getting lynched but get killed at night anyway :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 13:09:44 and if he did, then how did scott die anyway? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 13:15:13 Great questions, and as I have said MANY times this game, we really ought to at least attempt to get close to an understanding of the night actions and wtf is going on there. We have been clueless about that all game and it's costing us big time. I'd love for tim to explain a bit more. Especially since he apparently already claimed and it's out in the open. No point in holding back now. Tim explain yourself thoroughly please. I'm not pushing quite as hard on other people like padz because I'd like them to be able to protect their roles (although I'd like padz to be a bit more open about details and suspicions in the future). However Tim here already thought it fine to roleclaim for whatever reason under no pressure. :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 13:26:28 3527202B2C23362D307376420 wrote:
Are you deliberately ignoring me and missing the point of any accusations people aim in your direction? Answer my questions from earlier today. As for your retort to Matt, to reiterate yet again, Supr giving up was nowhere near as stupid or scummy as his post edit. I don't care if you correctly identified some stupid scum play (incidentally I have seen town say 'just lynch me' many times), the fact remains that you tried to excuse his far more scummy action that was far less likely to come from town. Finally, I've got one more question for you: what info will you get from my lynch that makes me a better lynch than RDBU? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:27:01 56676E6E56636E67020 wrote:
I'm too lazy too look back searching quotes but padz brought up something about Suprsilver may be lying about his handicap. This was when everybody believed SuprSilver's claim. Turned out SuprSilver was maf. If padz was actually Supr's maf buddie he wouldn't brought that up since the focus was fully off of SuprSilver at that moment. Padz' prob town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 13:34:23 I'm also still wondering why mafia did not change from suprsilver to someone else during day2? Let's take a closer look at the list [8] SuprSilver - KoopZ, Darius, Zwiebel, RDBU, MattV, Web, Tim, Goose [6] Goose - fank, MVT, Scott, NStride, Ivo, Sword During that day, there were plenty of opportunities for Koopz to switch to Goose, or basicly to switch around the votes saving suprsilver? Were mafia scared to do so as it could come out? Except for Goose and Koopz, all the people voting for suprsilver are still alive, were the remaining mafia not voting that day (padz, tvl?) It does not make sense that mafia let suprsilver die without trying to save him, but possibly they did to look good? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 13:35:14 I'm not that concerned with padz being maf. He just hasn't been the most helpful townie either. My focus has shifted onto Tim. He needs to post. RDBU needs to post. Darius needs to stop focusing on Web, but IMO any kind of contribution at this point trumps lurking and not posting. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:35:49 I can't understand all this drama. RDBU should be the obvious lynch today. If he's TOWN we lose a nobody. If he's MAF we did a good job 8-) If we lynch Darius and he's TOWN, we lost a good player. If he's MAF we did a good job 8-) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 13:37:55 6F4A59425E582B0 wrote:
I'm wondering about that too. If darius is maf then web is cleared, but that's about it. Doesn't say much when darius is town. I'm still all for a RDBU lynch by the way RDBU and Matt V, those are the people i want to lynch most. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 13:40:10 Vote RDBU He needs to post a good defense for me to remove. Tim please speak the fuck up too!!!! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:40:42 5B6A63635B6E636A0F0 wrote:
I understand this a little, Tim did slipped my attention the whole game. His posts seemed legit and contributing but then again, not really helpfull. Good scumplay by Tim? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:42:57 75444D4D75404D44210 wrote:
Thing is RDBU will not speak up. So we have to get rid of this kid asap. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 13:43:25 It's hard to tell if it was just a bad town play or maf slip up. He has certainly flown under the radar the whole game and IMO that roleclaim was an attempt to slip even further off the town radar. Also I don't know why any sensible townie would claim to be the protector this early on when no one is pressuring them. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:43:38 And I like to have a vote count |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:48:50 7F4E47477F4A474E2B0 wrote:
That claim to be the protector might be legit. Protector is Doc right? Seeing the kill list the Doc didn't died yet. Fake claiming Doc would be stupid cuz the real Doc will obv counterclaim. If Tim is maf he wouldn't russian roulette like this cuz he's under the radar. Tim might be the real Doc. Doesn't change the fact that claim is stupid anyhow. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 13:49:22 Unvote Vote RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 13:52:58 0720302B2D242436450 wrote:
That claim to be the protector might be legit. Protector is Doc right? Seeing the kill list the Doc didn't died yet. Fake claiming Doc would be stupid cuz the real Doc will obv counterclaim. If Tim is maf he wouldn't russian roulette like this cuz he's under the radar. Tim might be the real Doc. Doesn't change the fact that claim is stupid anyhow.[/quote] Why would the real doc cc Tim? That would be stupid, because if Tim was doc (which I don't think he is since he said protector, which I believe is a bodyguard role) he'd be dead tonight, and if he was mafia then a cc would draw out the real doc for the mafia to kill. Doc should NOT claim today, regardless of what happens. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 13:57:43 Tim might be the real doc I agree. That is why I have been begging him to speak up. My vote is on RDBU anyway and won't be removed unless he comes up with a nice defense and explanation for his play. I doubt that will be coming from him though. Edit - Post was towards RVZ. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 13:59:19 4052555E59564358450603370 wrote:
That claim to be the protector might be legit. Protector is Doc right? Seeing the kill list the Doc didn't died yet. Fake claiming Doc would be stupid cuz the real Doc will obv counterclaim. If Tim is maf he wouldn't russian roulette like this cuz he's under the radar. Tim might be the real Doc. Doesn't change the fact that claim is stupid anyhow.[/quote] Why would the real doc cc Tim? That would be stupid, because if Tim was doc (which I don't think he is since he said protector, which I believe is a bodyguard role) he'd be dead tonight, and if he was mafia then a cc would draw out the real doc for the mafia to kill. Doc should NOT claim today, regardless of what happens. [/quote] Can you tell me the difference between bodyguard and doc? If protector isn't doc then it's a stupid and useless claim. But still, if Tim is maf, he wouldn't claim this cuz it brings some attention towards him; Useless attention cuz he didn't got pressured at all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 14:00:52 I was just running for a half-hour. Now to answer all of your questions. 0326352E3234470 wrote:
If I never mentioned the post edit as a problem for SS, it was just because it was blatantly obvious scumplay. Honestly this to me seems like you're just trying to go too far into my posts. If you're trying to target me here for saying that wasn't lynchworthy, I'm pretty sure every mafia player and the people who aren't playing viewing the board could have figured out it was lynchworthy. Lying to the town or withholding information from them are horrible and scummy, and warrant a lynch imo. 0326352E3234470 wrote:
Here's where you're trying to read into fank's play, which I thought the whole game was erratic, random and at times he had little to no idea what he was doing. My read on him this game was a detrimental player to the town, and either a very obvious mafia or a horrible town. Regardless, he needed to be killed. I'm really not sure how to answer that question because of the fact that fank's playstyle was so random. I can see where people are coming from to say that Darius wouldn't tell us that much, maybe I'm too focused on my defense, however I prompt this question to the town. What more can we learn from RDBU then we can learn from Darius? (or is it the good player/bad player conflict) Everyone wrote him off as an easy maf last game, and he flipped town. To end this off, RDBU should die this cycle, and if you guys really want to push him for the lynch I'll go for it. I think that a nightkill is a much better scenario, however if you're more interested in him or Matt V then Darius as the lynch, I'd go for that. Anyone else for me is off the radar lynch-wise today, barring stupidity or other scummy circumstances. I'm eating dinner in a few minutes, but after that I'll be back on for probably the remainder of the day to answer anything I missed. FYI for votecounts it's this (not in order of voting though) Darius - Web, RDBU, Zwieb RDBU - MVT, Ivo, RVZ Web - Darius MattV - Tim Padz - TvL Zwieb - MattV Again, I'll consider unvoting if people don't want a Darius lynch, however anyone but RDBU, MattV & Darius are off my list and I will not vote today. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 14:03:03 0027372C2A232331420 wrote:
Not sure if it's been played in this forum before, but a BodyGuard protects the player for the night like a doc, however has other variables. Sometimes the BG dies in place of the target Sometimes the BG kills the attacker Sometimes nothing happens Sometimes the kill goes through regardless It's normally a randomly generated scenario and sometimes outcomes may/may not be used however I'm not sure if that role has been used before. That's the only possible role I can think of as a "protector" other than the doc, and I could be totally wrong obviously. I'm just assuming Tim isn't stupid enough to claim Doc D4. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 14:05:07 i've just read through all tim's posts and except for the HUGE mistake he made today, he generally looks townish to me, he pointed out some good stuff too. I still wonder what made him make the mistake, and dissappear after that. Maybe that he sincerely was THAT confused the protection failed, that he had to share it with us? BTW, i think i know what "locked in" means, it's when someone can't do anything at night, but also can't get hit, it's a role honko has used before in the mario mafia game (i think that was honko's game) Was one of the first games we played at the board. The role was called yoshi in that one i thought. Looking it up right now. I seriously need to build a case against matt v, that guy is scum, i'm 90% sure of it. I'm going to collect more info now |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 14:05:45 Quote:
Is it really so difficult for you to understand the difference between Darius and RDBU lynch?? RDBU TOWN, we lose a nobody Darius TOWN, we lose a good player Sure if we lynch Darius and he turns up MAF we did great, but chances are very slim. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 14:16:26 I think this is timothy's role, but he should tell more himself (stolen from honko's first game he hosted) Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 14:17:22 4250575C5B54415A470401350 wrote:
If I never mentioned the post edit as a problem for SS, it was just because it was blatantly obvious scumplay. Honestly this to me seems like you're just trying to go too far into my posts. If you're trying to target me here for saying that wasn't lynchworthy, I'm pretty sure every mafia player and the people who aren't playing viewing the board could have figured out it was lynchworthy. Lying to the town or withholding information from them are horrible and scummy, and warrant a lynch imo. 0326352E3234470 wrote:
Here's where you're trying to read into fank's play, which I thought the whole game was erratic, random and at times he had little to no idea what he was doing. My read on him this game was a detrimental player to the town, and either a very obvious mafia or a horrible town. Regardless, he needed to be killed. I'm really not sure how to answer that question because of the fact that fank's playstyle was so random. I can see where people are coming from to say that Darius wouldn't tell us that much, maybe I'm too focused on my defense, however I prompt this question to the town. What more can we learn from RDBU then we can learn from Darius? (or is it the good player/bad player conflict) Everyone wrote him off as an easy maf last game, and he flipped town. To end this off, RDBU should die this cycle, and if you guys really want to push him for the lynch I'll go for it. I think that a nightkill is a much better scenario, however if you're more interested in him or Matt V then Darius as the lynch, I'd go for that. Anyone else for me is off the radar lynch-wise today, barring stupidity or other scummy circumstances. I'm eating dinner in a few minutes, but after that I'll be back on for probably the remainder of the day to answer anything I missed. FYI for votecounts it's this (not in order of voting though) Darius - Web, RDBU, Zwieb RDBU - MVT, Ivo, RVZ Web - Darius MattV - Tim Padz - TvL Zwieb - MattV Again, I'll consider unvoting if people don't want a Darius lynch, however anyone but RDBU, MattV & Darius are off my list and I will not vote today.[/quote] Can you clarify this? I think you got a little wordy here and sort of contradicted yourself? Are you in favor or against an RDBU lynch? Would you consider actually voting RDBU? I don't understand what you mean. The two bold things seem to contradict themselves. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 14:20:16 web, do you prefer matt v or rdbu? I really want them both gone, preferably today, but matt v seems more dangerous as of now. rdbu is more of a safe bet, we can't lose much (except for a terrible night phase like tonight) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 14:20:07 5D627B7B607E7167140 wrote:
Ok that role makes sense. I'd like Tim to speak for himself definitely though as you said. The only plausible reason I can think that Tim would reveal is that he could only use the role a designated number of times for the whole game and he finished using all of them already, making his role finished and useless. That's the only theory where roleclaiming with no pressure on him as a townie makes sense. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 14:21:19 6E7C7B7077786D766B282D190 wrote:
If I never mentioned the post edit as a problem for SS, it was just because it was blatantly obvious scumplay. Honestly this to me seems like you're just trying to go too far into my posts. If you're trying to target me here for saying that wasn't lynchworthy, I'm pretty sure every mafia player and the people who aren't playing viewing the board could have figured out it was lynchworthy. Lying to the town or withholding information from them are horrible and scummy, and warrant a lynch imo. 0326352E3234470 wrote:
Here's where you're trying to read into fank's play, which I thought the whole game was erratic, random and at times he had little to no idea what he was doing. My read on him this game was a detrimental player to the town, and either a very obvious mafia or a horrible town. Regardless, he needed to be killed. I'm really not sure how to answer that question because of the fact that fank's playstyle was so random. I can see where people are coming from to say that Darius wouldn't tell us that much, maybe I'm too focused on my defense, however I prompt this question to the town. What more can we learn from RDBU then we can learn from Darius? (or is it the good player/bad player conflict) Everyone wrote him off as an easy maf last game, and he flipped town. To end this off, RDBU should die this cycle, and if you guys really want to push him for the lynch I'll go for it. I think that a nightkill is a much better scenario, however if you're more interested in him or Matt V then Darius as the lynch, I'd go for that. Anyone else for me is off the radar lynch-wise today, barring stupidity or other scummy circumstances. I'm eating dinner in a few minutes, but after that I'll be back on for probably the remainder of the day to answer anything I missed. FYI for votecounts it's this (not in order of voting though) Darius - Web, RDBU, Zwieb RDBU - MVT, Ivo, RVZ Web - Darius MattV - Tim Padz - TvL Zwieb - MattV Again, I'll consider unvoting if people don't want a Darius lynch, however anyone but RDBU, MattV & Darius are off my list and I will not vote today.[/quote] What keeps you off of voting RDBU? Srsly, anyone with a brain knows he's the best lynch for today. EVEN IF HE'S TOWN. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 14:21:25 anyone but (3 names) are of his list, and he won't vote if we decide to go after any other player than one of those 3 |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 14:22:30 so basicly he's saying that he'll vote for rdbu, darius or matt v today |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 14:22:35 Web: so your argument is that you never actually put pressure on SS for the edit because it was so obviously scumplay? Why the hell didn't you vote for him? It is so blindingly obvious how inconsistent your position over this is I don't understand how you're getting away with it. As for Fank, you quite clearly said that if Fank was mafia, it made Supr more likely mafia. The implication was that Fank pretented to ignore Supr's edit because they were mafia buddies. In this scenario it does not make sense to lynch Fank first. MVT: why should I stop going after Web? He gets scummier with practically every post. Also, at the end there he's saying he'll only lynch RDBU, Matt or me. I'm not particularly inspired by Matt's play this game but I think when he's actually bothered to be here he's at least contributed a few of his own thoughts, which is far more pro-town than RDBU, who has literally only followed every leading wagon in the game and not attempted to take a single decisive, original stance or contribute any analysis. His focus is quite clearly on self-preservation. If people really still can't see how Web is scum then I'll back the RDBU wagon. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/29/11 at 14:23:14 082F3F24222B2B394A0 wrote:
That's what I'm thinking about all the time just now. At least when we leave Darius alive and he is Maf, he could somehow slip or say something which makes us more suspicious of him, whereas when we leave RDBU alive we probably won't get another opinion on him since he'll probably say nothing interesting. If Darius is Town, there's also the possibility of him somehow clearing himself. It feels so much like a waste to lynch an inactive/shitty player who can't be read though. And even the same can be applied on Matt V, has someone played a game with him before? Is it possible that he'll start talking something worthy tomorrow, or is he normally a good player? It would make me more suspicious of him then if he has been a good player in the past. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 14:29:04 Thanks for the clarification on Web, ivo. Now I understand what he means. About RDBU vs MattV. MattV seems to be a lot more helpful at least. Whether he is a townie or just trying to misdirect us I know not. I just can't pick him off RDBU. I feel personally vindicated not to let him get away with that fucking god awful strat he has used EVERY SINGLE DAY of this game. It's almost robotic his consistency with that strat. Sort of fake almost. He definitely has a nice chance of flipping maf. IF there is a vig, I DO ENCOURAGE them to finally listen and kill MattV at night if that would satisfy everyone. Ivo I'm sure you would not be opposed to such action either. The vig is just seemingly a bit unreliable or single minded. Darius your web case is nonsense and tomorrow I'm going to pick through and pick apart your posts. I think you and padz might be the other remaining mafs along with RDBU. Tim and padz need to stop lurking too. That's definitely not going to get shit done at this stage where we need every post of talking possible. Day is almost over. Once the RDBU lynch goes through which it seemingly is about to , we need leads for tomorrow and who is attached to him or other players. Post it up people. No lurking allowed. I'm trying my best to promote activity with a good deal of posts each containing some thoughts. I can't do it alone though. Some of you are doing a great job, others are not. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 14:30:33 @Darius Like I said earlier, Web is high on my scumlist. Web's flipflapping his personal opinion on things. One moment he claims to have a strong vote for "player" and 1 hour later he comes up with an opposite theory that's totally different then his earlier opinion. But the thing is, heating up Web now is useless. You're the only one that's really after his ass. Waste of time. We have to lynch RDBU's ass first. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 14:32:04 614C525E595E573B0 wrote:
That's what I'm thinking about all the time just now. At least when we leave Darius alive and he is Maf, he could somehow slip or say something which makes us more suspicious of him, whereas when we leave RDBU alive we probably won't get another opinion on him since he'll probably say nothing interesting. If Darius is Town, there's also the possibility of him somehow clearing himself. It feels so much like a waste to lynch an inactive/shitty player who can't be read though. And even the same can be applied on Matt V, has someone played a game with him before? Is it possible that he'll start talking something worthy tomorrow, or is he normally a good player? It would make me more suspicious of him then if he has been a good player in the past.[/quote] Matt V is not a bad player. I'd take him over RDBU ANY DAY. Robotic Dumb Bandwagon User. [smiley=chairshot.gif] He pisses me off to no end with that strat! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Darius on 03/29/11 at 14:34:34 Fine. RVZ is the only one who agrees with my Web case and even he doesn't want to lynch him. I have to go to bed, so as this is my last post for the day: Unvote; Vote: RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 14:36:24 4A7B72724A7F727B1E0 wrote:
I said RDBU needs to die this cycle, and ANYONE BUT (and including this entire list) RDBU, Matt V, and Darius should not be lynched today. Wasn't contradicting myself, you just read it wrong. All I can say to you Darius is that SS and fank were very difficult to read (as is RDBU) because their play was atrocious. Because of this, I flipped back and forth in my mind over whether they were town or mafia, as I'm sure a lot of the town did. I can go back and see what my position was at points in the game to try and emulate that, but the truth is it changed so much on both of them that it's hard to pinpoint a specific feeling for them, especially after their roles and affiliations are now revealed. @Ivo, I'd prefer RDBU over Matt V because at least Matt V is beginning to contribute now. RDBU is a liability regardless and needs to be killed somehow. I'll be around to see what everyone's opinions are but it appears as if a bunch of people are moving away from a Darius lynch, and if the pressure is off that I'm not going to stay on it, as it would make my vote useless. Also forgot about jailer role, which makes sense, although if Tim is legit jailer and protected Scott, then the only way that he could have failed protecting him is if he was roleblocked. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 14:37:20 What's the votecount? I think this almost seals the day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 14:39:06 It's 4 on RDBU, 3 Darius atm. 6 to lynch. http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 14:39:53 Darius - Web, RDBU, Zwieb 3 RDBU - MVT, Ivo, RVZ, Darius 4 MattV - Tim 1 Padz - TvL 1 Zwieb - MattV 1 edit, ninja'd by Web Web, what are you waiting for? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 14:40:01 564443484F40554E531015210 wrote:
I said RDBU needs to die this cycle, and ANYONE BUT (and including this entire list) RDBU, Matt V, and Darius should not be lynched today. Wasn't contradicting myself, you just read it wrong. All I can say to you Darius is that SS and fank were very difficult to read (as is RDBU) because their play was atrocious. Because of this, I flipped back and forth in my mind over whether they were town or mafia, as I'm sure a lot of the town did. I can go back and see what my position was at points in the game to try and emulate that, but the truth is it changed so much on both of them that it's hard to pinpoint a specific feeling for them, especially after their roles and affiliations are now revealed. @Ivo, I'd prefer RDBU over Matt V because at least Matt V is beginning to contribute now. RDBU is a liability regardless and needs to be killed somehow. I'll be around to see what everyone's opinions are but it appears as if a bunch of people are moving away from a Darius lynch, and if the pressure is off that I'm not going to stay on it, as it would make my vote useless. Also forgot about jailer role, which makes sense, although if Tim is legit jailer and protected Scott, then the only way that he could have failed protecting him is if he was roleblocked.[/quote] I made exactly the same argument to Darius in defense of you. He didn't seem to buy it unfortunately. I think you are town though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/29/11 at 14:43:40 I think I'd agree on lynching RDBU and vig killing Matt V then. We get rid of the fucking lurkers(and hopefully at least one Maf) and I don't think any good player that's Town would act the way Matt did. He didn't back up anything he said, he probably didn't even read the whole thread. Plus we could then finally focus on finding the "active" Mafia guys. I think we should mainly investigate Darius D5, as well as Tim if he's still alive. unvote Vote RDBU |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 14:46:11 ugh, I hate doing this but I'll unvote Vote: RDBU because he's easily a better lynch than anyone in my mind but Darius, and if Darius is town he'd be a bad loss. I feel like he's a strong mafia though, and I can't say much else in my defense over the SS/fank issue than I already have. Don't know how much time we have left, but that's 5 votes. Maybe we can use the rest of the time to discuss cases on other players for tomorrow? Seems like a waste for someone to place the kill vote and knock off these last few hours. EDIT - nvm, that's the maj lynch. Nobody post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/11 at 14:47:30 that makes 6, day is over. stop posting |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by MVT on 03/29/11 at 14:47:34 Is that it... fuckin dumb we didn't need to end the day that early...I really wanted to hear from tim. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 14:52:02 Unbelieveble how everybody changes so easily to RDBU while Darius was pretty close to death. I'm still positive that the 4 people that voted Darius atleast 1 of them is scum. I can understand RDBU his vote cuz he's stupid. The other 3 (Web, MVT, Zwiebel) are imo not this dumb enough to vote an active guy out. But I think I've found a huge slip.. 5F726C60676069050 wrote:
That's what I'm thinking about all the time just now. At least when we leave Darius alive and he is Maf, he could somehow slip or say something which makes us more suspicious of him, whereas when we leave RDBU alive we probably won't get another opinion on him since he'll probably say nothing interesting. If Darius is Town, there's also the possibility of him somehow clearing himself. It feels so much like a waste to lynch an inactive/shitty player who can't be read though. And even the same can be applied on Matt V, has someone played a game with him before? Is it possible that he'll start talking something worthy tomorrow, or is he normally a good player? It would make me more suspicious of him then if he has been a good player in the past.[/quote] Zwiebel how can you think this "all the time" while your vote was on Darius "all the time" |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by RVZ on 03/29/11 at 14:52:59 omg day ended? Zwiebel is fucking MAF! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/29/11 at 14:53:06 RVZ, I'm locking this until honko gets here. No posting after maj lynch -_-. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Night 4 Post by Honko on 03/29/11 at 17:27:13 RDBU has been lynched. He was TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla. It is now Night 4. Send your night actions to me by PM in the next 23 hours. If you do not wish to use your night action tonight, please PM me with that decision. If you do not have any night powers, no PM is necessary. Final Day 4 Votals [6] RDBU - (Ivo), (MVT), RVZ, MVT, Ivo, Darius, Zwiebel, Web [1] Darius - (padz), RDBU, (Zwiebel), (Web), (MVT) [1] MattV - (MVT), Timothy, (Ivo) [1] Zwiebel - MattV [1] padz - TvL [0] Web - (Darius) [0] MVT - (RVZ), (padz) The Living 1. Darius 2. Ivo 3. Matt V 4. MVT 5. padz 6. RVZ 7. Tim 8. TvL 9. Web 10. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3) Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3) fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3) RDBU - TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla (LD4) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 03/30/11 at 16:30:47 Nobody died last night! The Living 1. Darius 2. Ivo 3. Matt V 4. MVT 5. padz 6. RVZ 7. Tim 8. TvL 9. Web 10. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3) Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3) fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3) RDBU - TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla (LD4) With 10 players alive it takes 6 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. Begin! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/30/11 at 16:49:58 Sigh. Well I had a hunch that was what would happen, but my main suspicion is on Darius now, however much more RVZ than yesterday. One question to RVZ, why did you push for a much easier lynch that you could get away with? When we had the chance to pressure better players, you said, "RDBU is an easy mislynch", and deadset focused on him the whole day with just a few other scumhints. Darius #1 suspect. Also I seriously doubt any vanillas actually exist anymore, esp after Honko said this was a semi high power game. I'm going to look back at some night actions from previous days, since we've done little with those the past days and focused on past suspicions. Just a few observations to start the day off. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 03/30/11 at 16:54:40 Oh and a reminder I almost forgot. Don't fucking talk at night. If a majority is reached while I'm not around to lock the thread, shut the fuck up anyway. I can tell the difference between an honest mistake a couple minutes after the last vote has been reached, and purposely getting in an extra word when you know the day should be over. Anyone trying to do the latter from now on will certainly be modkilled. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 16:58:07 Hmm, not a bad night, at least we didn't really waste a day lynching rdbu. It was not like he would help us anyway. But i think we could get into trouble if we mislynch today. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/30/11 at 17:04:34 I'm guessing 5 maf, maybe 6. With that we're now 7-3 right now, barring any extra admins lying around. Today is crucial and we can't make a bad lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by thewebinator on 03/30/11 at 17:07:04 4E697962646D6D7F0C0 wrote:
That's what I'm thinking about all the time just now. At least when we leave Darius alive and he is Maf, he could somehow slip or say something which makes us more suspicious of him, whereas when we leave RDBU alive we probably won't get another opinion on him since he'll probably say nothing interesting. If Darius is Town, there's also the possibility of him somehow clearing himself. It feels so much like a waste to lynch an inactive/shitty player who can't be read though. And even the same can be applied on Matt V, has someone played a game with him before? Is it possible that he'll start talking something worthy tomorrow, or is he normally a good player? It would make me more suspicious of him then if he has been a good player in the past.[/quote] Zwiebel how can you think this "all the time" while your vote was on Darius "all the time"[/quote] Also, about this "huge slip", I think it was just a minor grammatical error by Zwieb, or at least that's what I took it as. He was just thinking of the possibility that a RDBU lynch was safer than a Darius lynch. Starting this day off with a Vote: RVZ for trying to look really hard at something I don't think is there, as well as a general narrow-mindedness at the end of yesterday towards a now townie. I do understand the reason for lynching, I don't understand why all you talked about in D4 was "lynch RDBU". EDIT - I see now you talked a little about Tim, although disregarded it later to tell everyone to wagon on RDBU. The fact that no one died in the night (MattV/Darius) is also kind of disheartening) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 17:30:53 this is why we dont let the suspect throw the lynch at the last minute before i get a chance to post nobody should be glad that nothing happened. we're back at square one w/ one less town player. there was only confusion because nobody knows up from down anymore. this is the last time i listen to mvt. vote Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/30/11 at 17:34:17 Right now I think RVZ and Darius are scum buds, as they supported each other throughout, and near the end of the day RVZ pretty much told Darius to switch off of me because no one was pushing the vote. I'm off for today though, hopefully we get a lot of activity. Inactivity is inexcusable at this time, but people shouldn't accuse for it. I'll switch my vote to Darius if he talks the same as yesterday, but now I want to see what RVZ has to say. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 17:41:37 I think now would be a good time for roleblocker to claim. Who made the block and who was blocked? That'ss a guarenteed scum right there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 17:50:35 Quote:
Well, we lost rdbu, which isn't too bad. We had to get rid of him anyway. MVT: i don't think it's that easy, remember there died 3 people in night 3 right? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 17:57:21 59686161596C61680D0 wrote:
fuck off |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 17:58:40 you scared padz? you're mafia |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 18:03:19 Quote:
yeah right you're not responsible you would have saved town from this terrible mistake your opinion is always correct you are mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 18:06:03 gay |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 18:07:38 Padz has bullied and bulldozed his way through this entire game never answering a single question anyone has dircted at him. I still think him and darius are connected. I don't understand how he is so "clear" on his reads. He's so direct and doesn't use any real reasoning. Just orders people to vote a certain way which is frustrating. Also pretty funny how he was racing in the beginning of the day to lynch darius asap. I called him out on it and he quickly recanted the vote. He knew it looked bad. Then he criticizes everyone else for ending the day. I agree it should never have ended that early but padz saying that is just comedy after his earlier action. Ivo I agree about it not being as simple as I made it to sound about roleblocker coming out. However if the roleblocker blocked someone new tonight that he never did before and there was no night kill than that strongly implies the person the roleblocker blocked was scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 18:08:21 if im so obviously bussing darius why not lynch him and confirm it? if you think hes town, how come i know too much and am scum? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 18:11:23 56676E6E56636E67020 wrote:
i pulled off because you begged me to put heat on other players and said lynching darius undermined that what the fuck have i bulldozed thru? nobody has taken anything ive said into account for the past four games. yr maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 18:18:27 Padz you don't really pay attention to anyone elses posts. News flash - when you do that no one listens to your opinions. You have said just about every player left alive is maf too. Your accusations aren't even noteworthy anymore. They are merely an afterthought in the broad scope of the game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 18:19:43 not taking bait makes me maf? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 18:21:30 padz compilation time! Fuck reasoning, and complain when people don't listen! Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 18:21:34 18292020182D20294C0 wrote:
na im p sure it was darius who did that! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/30/11 at 18:22:55 <ivo> padz made a funny joke but im town so hes maf! i quit |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 18:27:14 Your logic if flawed. Your behavior...it's too phony. The conviction you have that darius is maf seems genuine though. Bus him off and keep ur power role alive. Good strat. Let me be clear. Your time is up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 18:31:37 437277696663130 wrote:
how do you know i'm town? All the time i've got the feeling you know more, but you mix it up with "yr maf" to keep confusion. Who's REALLY mafia in you eyes except for darius, that one looks clear to me. And, if you don't like being attacked, another question for you, at what point do you think roleclaiming is a good idea? You've been acting like it's always a bad idea, but at some point i think it could be a good idea, as of now, all our power roles should still be left in the game with so much vanilla's dead. So having a mass roleclaim might not be a bad idea, the worst that could happen is a protector getting lynched tonight or whatever. What if we don't know at all who to lynch during this day? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 18:34:09 Your conviction on Darius does really seem genuine. Ill trust you. You wouldn't lie. Thanks for giving yourself away though in the process! You're next. Vote Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 18:41:26 MVT, in what order would you place the following 4 statements from most likely to least likely? 1. Darius and padz both town 2. Darius maf, padz town 3. Darius town, padz maf 4. Darius and padz both maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 18:42:12 My post was directed at padz by the way. I'm using my phone browser which is limited. Can't quote properly and posts are sloppy. Sorry for typos if they are there. I won't post again till I get to my real computer in a little while. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 18:47:57 4, 3, 2, 1. Ivo |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 18:51:19 And what do we do if we lynch darius and he comes up town? Does that clear padz in your eyes? It does not in mine at least. He's been the main supporter for the Darius lynch yesterday, and if just one person more had agreed on it and pushed, Darius might not have been alive anymore. Is that what mafia buddies try to do with each other when there's so much easy targets out there? I still don't think Darius is mafia after pushing the supr lynch really hard, but he could as well have been the other Admin, who was part of the team with sportsguy, and their goal was to lynch supr that day no matter what. Darius did have a strong/solid read on supr, and decided not to go off of it, even after several arguments why a different lynch could have been better. Made him look quite town in my eyes, but could have been fake/other allignment. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 18:52:45 mvt, why vote for darius if you think 3 is more likely than 2? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 18:54:43 And before we forget it, tim better returns today and gives us answers to the questions asked yesterday. Who did you "lock in" tonight what's your role exactly? why did you roleclaim? why should we not lynch you? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/11 at 19:07:19 anyway, i'm going to bed right now I hope everyone will at least clearly state who his top suspicions are and why. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/30/11 at 19:09:44 08372E2E352B2432410 wrote:
hard to say really. I debated for a long time in my head between the two options and their implications. The more I think about it though, maf really need a mislynch. They might come close to winning with one depending on the numbers. Padz can afford to sacrifice himself for the darius lynch. Especially considering he considers darius to be the strongest most persuasive player. Padz would be obv maf if darius was town and would for sure to be the next lynch but at that point maf might have game in hand. Plus if my theory holds true about padz bussing his fellow maf player than that scum strat would mean that padz has the better role. Sorry for the confusion and rambling thoughts. I'm thinking out loud. Good logic ivo and thanks for calling me out and letting my rethink every scenario. Still posting on shitty phone so sorry for errors. unvote. Vote padz |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/30/11 at 23:50:10 I don't have much time now but I have to voice my agreement with Ivo. If Tim can claim his targets on the other nights, particularly last night, we should be able to narrow down the possibilities. Will catch up fully as soon as I can. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 01:06:31 427376686762120 wrote:
You had ample time to contribute yesterday. You basically called me mafia for half a day and then disappeared. You don't get to show up now and complain about the lynch because the fact is, you did absolutely nothing to try and change it. You posted a weak, contradictory case on me that I responded to in full and you still continue to tunnel on me for no discernable reason. All of this indicates someone who has a hidden agenda, because I can see no reason why you want me lynched so badly. 7F6D6A6166697C677A393C080 wrote:
By this are you saying that you'll switch your vote to me if I continue to suspect you? In other words, my scumhunting is ok if I suspect other people, but it's not when I suspect you? To clarify my suspicion further, I look for motivations and the evolution of thought processes to work out whether someone is town and scum. You might say 'well obviously SS's post edit was mega-scummy' but if you don't say it, how am I supposed to know you ever held that opinion? When you justified the Shock lynch, you cited the post edit as evidence that Supr was no good to the town. You did not say this when Supr originally edited the post. It therefore is clear that you did not think the post edit was lynch-worthy. Also, the fact remains that you tried to tie Supr to Fank as mafia buddies because Fank ignored Supr edit. This only makes sense if Supr was scum. Therefore it did not make sense for you to vote Fank first. You go back and look at your response to when Supr edited the post. Now tell me whether or not that looks like a player who thought it was worth lynching Supr for. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 03:23:25 Update of my thoughts since my last post: padz is still high on my list. It's good to see him talking (not much sense yet, but still) and others putting the heat on him as well. RVZ has shaken off some scumpoints by contributing at the end of the previous day, although I'd like to see him keep it up today, otherwise I might see it as a fake effort. Matt V also posted more, but his posts look forced to me. Taking a stab at some people here and there, but mostly in the form of questions, as if he doesn't want to commit himself but still try to influence other people's opinions. Also some strange remarks here and there. I'll see if I can make a more detailed analysis later to back this up. Timothy's role-claim came and went without getting enough attention I think (that includes my attention as well); Ivo is right to bring it up again. If it's genuine, i.e. his night action didn't have the effect he had expected, why not take it up with Honko via PM? This topic is not the place to get his attention. It must have been a deliberate action, role-claiming "en passant". Next question: if it's genuine, what happened? Either Honko made a mistake (but surely he's infallible?), or Timothy was mistaken and didn't read the fine print below the description of his power. Or we do have a godfather (or admin?) on the loose with overpowering powers. After this, he made just two more posts without further addressing this. Timothy, please explain yourself! Also, why did you choose to lock Scott? I see this day has started off again with pressure on Darius, while he himself exerts it right back on Web. I need to review their posts to see if my views on them need revision. Finally, I'm a bit puzzled by the fact that there were three deaths on the previous night and no deaths last night. Let me summarize all night deaths: Night 1: - Cam (TOWN Female Intuition) - Sportsguy (ADMIN Handicapper) Night 2: - Koopz (MAFIA Vanilla) - Zarkov (TOWN Vanilla) Night 3: - fank (TOWN Vanilla) - Scott (TOWN Vanilla) - Sword (TOWN Sexiest Man Alive) Night 4: - Most likely Zarkov was killed by the mafia and Koopz was killed by Shock. Iirc, Shock said he had two shots and had only used one, so he didn't kill Cam or Sportsguy. The three deaths on night 3 seem to suggest there's still another vigilante (killing fank/Scott?) and an (admin?) SK or mafia vigilante of some sorts. Assuming the mafia went for Zarkov and Cam/Sportsguy, they've adopted the strategy to kill the quiet ones to not give away too much useful information to town. That makes Sword a likely victim of them for night 3. No deaths on night 4 must mean that there was some effective blocking/protecting. The mafia will have made an assassination attempt, and the (hypothetical) admin SK as well. It's quite a coincidence that two assassination attempts were prevented, so three attempts seems highly unlikely. This seems to suggest that we have a vigilante who saved a bullet or is all out of bullets. I'm not too familiar with all these power roles, so I may have made some bad assumptions. I'm interested to hear additional thoughts or comments. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 04:04:03 The 3 deaths on N3 suggest to me that we are dealing with three factions. With a town vig dead I don't see 2 of those deaths coming from town, unless there is a PGO-type role and Sword targeted them. That said, no deaths last night doesn't make a whole lot of sense if there are 3 kills floating about, so I'm guessing that either a vig has used up their kills, all killing abilities somehow got blocked, or there's the PGO-type explanation from N3, suggesting that the third kill was also an anomaly. This is one of the main reasons why it would be good to find out who Tim targeted last night. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 04:52:57 I also just noticed that Sword was not vanilla, but "Sexiest Man Alive". Any idea what kind of power that might imply? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 04:57:02 I really don't think that honko would put 3 anti town factions in one game, 2 seems more logical. If the 3rd kill night 3 was not made by mafia, then one of the following scenarios might be possible: 1. sword was the bodyguard and protected mafia, as a a result he died 2. we've got a jack of all trades with one killing ability 3. shock was no vig and there's still is a vig out there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 4: Do they like bananas? Post by Zwiebel on 03/31/11 at 05:14:34 457D6061664D427E736B77604D57647760120 wrote:
Isn't that the exact same thing Koopz said when he was leaving? Sounds pretty much like rubbish, wanting some Town points. He was never really under pressure and trying to get through the game without much attention? Also, something about Tim: 3E3437342A344D0 wrote:
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:-/ I know you're right and I shouldn't let myself get so frustrated by his ridiculous play... unvote Gonna check back to Goose's role claim... @ Zwiebel - if Supr gets lynched and is town, what would the next plan of action be?[/quote] Unvotes just because Zwiebel told him to. Obv now it looks like he did the smart thing, but he didn't do it of his own accord. 242E2D2E302E570 wrote:
Another vote for no good reason. Looks like a bandwagoning vote, 8th of 10 votes needed. Nothing else to go on as he was almost as inactive D3 as me.[/quote] Original vote on Goose was because he was pissing me off. I didn't realise he had votes on him so I didn't want to just place a random vote to look like I had a legit opinion. He had voters which meant my vote counted; Goose was playing strangely and didn't really help the game. Unvoting was fair enough, Timur has seemed legit so far and having second thoughts about the vote made me realise the vote was ultimately pointless. Supr had been a suspect from the start, and seemed like the best possible lynch. I knew I wasn't going to be here for the last few hours of the day so at least adding one vote to Supr's total meant that Goose was less likely to be lynched and I wouldn't feel guilty about an emotional vote that could hurt the town (Goose). Sorry I haven't brought much since day 2. Maybe I should have opted out because of my trip to Dublin but being out for a whole day makes catching up difficult. Vote: MattV You're completely barking up the wrong tree. I showed great involvement and good posting early on. It's easy to pick on inactives isn't it? Do you have the balls to actually pin pressure on someone active and suspect at the same time?[/quote] Important parts of the quote bolded. First he said in his post that he checked the votals, then he defends his vote with the fact that he didn't know there were votes on goose? Seems contradictionary to me. Why would he come up with that excuse? I definately want to hear something from you Tim. Especially you should finally make clear what you were trying to do with that stupid roleclaim. Aside from those two my focus is still on Darius. I only let go of him yesterday because of RDBU, I can't understand how you can play that bad in your second game. He should at least have learned something from his past game...look at TvL, it's his first game and he plays 1000x better than RDBU(aside from his alignement, but I think it shows that he's Town more likely). About padz, I'm not really sure about him. He's acting very ignorant, I don't know if he's just so confident that no one is going to lynch him even is he isn't answering most of our questions or he is Mafia. Or both. I'd really like him to get back to his D3 activity. Modified to remove one bold |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 05:22:39 i've asked padz some more questions, but he never seems to answer seriously. I've also given some reasons why i think he's mafia. Time to Vote padz On another note, how do other people look upon a mass roleclaim, or if that's no good idea, a mass nameclaim? Especially the latter might help us find mafia, without giving away too much info about our specific role. At some point in the game that might be good, we've had 4 nights too. We can't really mislynch today (well, i think we can make one more mislynch, but that would make our chances minimal) and every piece of info might help. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 03/31/11 at 05:26:10 I think if we want to understand the night actions, we'll first have to hear from Tim, since he claimed he protected Scott in the night and Scott was still killed. If that's true, I think it's clear that some strange kill was used to kill Scott which could go through protections. Could Mafia have such powers? Could a Third party have such powers? Could even a Townie have such a power? I think Third party would most likely have such a power, since they are probably less players, but I don't think we can solve the night kills with the current informations. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 05:32:34 i just did a quick reread through all swords posts, but can't find what his role possibly could be. I don't think he left any information. So "sexiest man alive" is probably not some investigation or protection role that gains information. (btw, i don't think we've got a cop anymore, look at the list of deaths night one "spril, town female intuition, that must be cop) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 05:34:10 Ivo: depending on what Tim can tell us I think roleclaim might be useful. Nameclaim would be good for locking people into claims. Zwiebel: can you reiterate your main points against me, because I honestly don't know why you think I'm the best lynch. As for your point about the protection-bypassing kill, typically those kinds of roles are called a Strongman. I had that role as Machop in the Pokemafia game, as mafia. I don't think I've ever seen one from town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 05:35:26 Quote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 05:38:20 oh shit, i always forget to post everythin in one post, hurray for double posts! i'm off to work right now, luckily we've still got plenty of time -> back in something like 7-8 hours. last time i said this only like 5 posts were added (and i slept 10 hours lol) so please, when i come back i want to see at least 5 pages more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 03/31/11 at 05:54:21 0025362D3137440 wrote:
- You stayed under the radar until the heat came on you(yes, I'll use that term again, since I think it's true) - Vote switch between Super and J-Cop, after going very hard against Super, when I wanted to set up a Super lynch. You gave me a reason for that, but that could easily have been made up, I don't really know if I should believe that you wanted fank alive. - No input from you when we lynched Shock and goose got blown up - 78554B4740474E220 wrote:
I really would not be surprised if all remaining mafia are in this group. They have a perfect excuse to vote me in that I defended SuprSilver, and are probably lazy enough to just jump on. I haven't felt good about ANY of these players all game (except for Scott early) while I have felt good about Padz, Zwiebel, MVT, etc all the way through. If I end up getting lynched tonight then look here because I'm almost certain that there are 2-3 mafia in here.[/quote] [/quote] I'm sure one Mafia is in that group, and only You and Web are alive. Since Web is a Town lean for me you are the only one left. My 4 main reasons for my suspicions. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 05:55:34 7D425B5B405E5147340 wrote:
I think the 3rd option is unlikely. He had covertly announced killing KoopZ, and I really don't see why a townie would lie about himself. I think he was either mistaken about needing one less vote to be lynched, or he was so convinced Goose was mafia that he deliberately set himself up for lynching (to kill Goose in the process). I don't think that name claiming really works. The two confirmed mafia were named Scott and KoopZ, which doesn't really scream mafia to me, so the mafia can just mention their actual given name. Only an admin would have a slight problem, as he'd be called Mark Jones, William Lacey or Michael Liem. And even if we'd force him to give a name before many others have, there are still a lot of names to choose from, so only a small chance that he chooses one that someone else has. By the way, given that Sportsguy was Alex Penev, it may even be logical for there to also be a Mark Jones with superpowers. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 06:13:58 1E332D21262128440 wrote:
I really would not be surprised if all remaining mafia are in this group. They have a perfect excuse to vote me in that I defended SuprSilver, and are probably lazy enough to just jump on. I haven't felt good about ANY of these players all game (except for Scott early) while I have felt good about Padz, Zwiebel, MVT, etc all the way through. If I end up getting lynched tonight then look here because I'm almost certain that there are 2-3 mafia in here.[/quote] [/quote] I'm sure one Mafia is in that group, and only You and Web are alive. Since Web is a Town lean for me you are the only one left.[/quote] Note that RVZ also placed a vote on Goose. He did it in fact before Darius did. Not long thereafter though he said he was suspicious of Shock and unvoted. He didn't go on to vote for Shock though and in fact didn't do anything anymore that day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 06:25:14 Zweibel: to go through point by point: 1. When I have been here, I have consistently contributed. The fact of the matter is, I had less time last week, particularly at the weekend when I had almost none, and Monday was my day off, so I was able to do a lot of catching up. All the pressure that was on me at the time was Padz's poorly justified vote, RDBU's terrible 'Darius or MVT' vote and MVT saying that Padz made some good points. 2. Well, we've gone over this. If you think I'm making it up then there's nothing more I can say. I think I made it quite clear why I switched and that I preferred J-Cop's lynch to Fank's. 3. I was not here. At all. I didn't come online, read the game and not post. I just wasn't here. I had no idea of what happened until I read it on Sunday. This is therefore a null-tell. 4. Why are you sure one mafia is in that group? Because Goose thought there was? Preview edit: TvL also makes an excellent point. On your rationale, RVZ should be as much of a suspect as me. TvL: I think you're missing the point. To use an example from the roles that have already flipped, if mafia was to claim MVT as a name and then 'Sexiest Guy Alive' as a role, we're going to know they're lying. Making people nameclaim limits the extent to which they can claim certain PRs because the roles have often matched the board users characteristics. And, as you say, someone with a role like Mark Jones would be forced to fakeclaim, which increases the chance that we'll catch them in a lie, even if it's just a small chance. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 03/31/11 at 06:32:30 Votals [2] padz - MVT, Ivo [1] Darius - padz, (MVT) [1] RVZ - Web Day ends in 34 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 06:36:39 ^^ Ah I see. Thanks for explaining. In that case, the name claiming sounds like a reasonable plan. I don't know yet about the role claiming. In my previous mafia experience, the only thing to claim was detective (cop). Also, all the roles and their numbers were known to all players. So I can't say from experience if the time is now (or when), but I'll think about it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Timothy on 03/31/11 at 07:02:48 0E312828332D2234470 wrote:
I locked Darius, but was roleblocked, so I'm confused as phuck as to the fact that no one died. I am Nicholas H, Jailkeeper. I roleclaimed because I was confused as to how Scott died when I chose to lock him, I was not roleblocked. You shouldn't lynch me because it's now crunch time and I have a useful ability. If we can collaborate we can come out on top. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 07:33:27 Before anyone makes any comments, please let Tim answer: 1. Why me? 2. What were your targets the other nights that we don't know about? 3. Is your role name literally 'Jailkeeper' and do you have flavour? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 07:47:06 0B342D2D36282731420 wrote:
padz, did you kill scott?[/quote] I asked that same exact question to him 2-3 times in past days and he did not even acknowledge it. Don't waste your time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 07:48:50 78494040784D40492C0 wrote:
padz, did you kill scott?[/quote] I asked that same exact question to him 2-3 times in past days and he did not even acknowledge it. Don't waste your time.[/quote] That also implies this theory. Scott was town. Tim protected Scott. Padz did kill Scott through the protection somehow. That would mean padz is scum. A normal vig would never be able to kill through a protection. Just more evidence in favor of a padz lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 08:37:10 ^ Although I like a padz lynch, your reasoning here is flawed. Tim's (alleged) failed lock does not say anything about padz. You're pushing your choices too hard. EDIT: oh wait, you mean scum is more likely than vig. I'm not going to vote for him yet though; first I want to hear more from Tim, and RVZ and Matt V need to come out of hiding (again!). Depending on their answers (or lack thereof) I might go for one of them instead. @Tim: dig up Honko's original PM with your role description and make sure that it (specifically) says that a locked person would be protected from assassination attempts. Remember though that you're not allowed to quote this PM! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 09:00:22 nks: cam, koopz, scott, darius (blocked) shock taking credit for koopz was why i pushed the lynch. mvt: if my kills are strongarm, how come darius didnt get hit? is there a town rb or would jailer fill that spot? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 09:04:32 69585D434C49390 wrote:
I don't buy that for a second. First of all, Shock claimed to have killed koopz already. Second of all I already explained my theory that you and Darius are maf buddies. You wouldn't actually night kill him. Only other possibility is that you are SK with a strong kill ability. No town vig would be able to kill Scott through jailkeeper protection. Doesn't add up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 09:07:38 1E2F26261E2B262F4A0 wrote:
I don't buy that for a second. First of all, Shock claimed to have killed koopz already. Second of all I already explained my theory that you and Darius are maf buddies. You wouldn't actually night kill him. Only other possibility is that you are SK with a strong kill ability. No town vig would be able to kill Scott through jailkeeper protection. Doesn't add up.[/quote] Plus that explains why you were so incredibly reluctant to answer me about killing Scott. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by RVZ on 03/31/11 at 09:23:15 7647425C5356260 wrote:
Comedy Why would Shock want to take credit for it? vote: padz |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 3: U MAF Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 09:25:41 So I looked back at Padz's posts after Shock claimed vigging Koopz: 0C3D3826292C5C0 wrote:
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timur is either maf poorly defending goose or maf superbly framing goose vote Zwiebel[/quote] 5C6D6876797C0C0 wrote:
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vote NStride[/quote] So he doesn't even mention Shock until the 4th post after the claim, and he doesn't vote for him until the 7th, almost 12 hours later. This is not the reaction of a townie who knows a player is lying. Vote: Padz Any explanation for the above? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 09:32:57 Interesting, padz claims vigilante... Note that this does not exclude the possibility that BOTH padz and shock are/were town vigilante and both targeted KoopZ. I need to think this over. I've got to go now, I'll be back in a few hours or tomorrow otherwise. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 03/31/11 at 10:21:14 Padz, what is your role name? You claimed now anyway, so you can also tell us the name of your role, right? I wouldn't see any harm in that for Town, even if you are the real vig. I'd also like to see a votecount, we don't want to end the day early again accidently :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 11:08:10 wow padz didnt completely give away his role he must be maf! darius would know better than this. this is just sad. timur: t-man |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Timothy on 03/31/11 at 11:12:43 2702110A1610630 wrote:
You're a good player who shows exceptional attention to detail. This kind of townie can prove a great threat to the mafia and sometimes gets lynched early on. Perhaps lynching you would have given someone else away, or perhaps you are therefore mafia. Or maybe by not lynching you the mafia want us to think you're mafia (similarly to MVT perhaps?). Night 1 forgot Night 2 Scott - Roleblocked Night 3 Wasn't here to PM Night 4 Scott - Wasn't roleblocked but he was killed Night 5 Darius - Roleblocked I am TOWN American Hero. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/31/11 at 11:16:40 655A43435846495F2C0 wrote:
Sexiest man alive kind of strikes me as a "Jack-of-all-trades" type role, but it doesn't really seem helpful since he didn't leave us with much. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/31/11 at 11:20:50 Also. STOP WITH THE PADZ VOTES!!! We have 4 now and the day just started. The situation D4 took a few hours from us, and we don't want over 24 taken away without any other discussion. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 11:33:51 5564617F7075050 wrote:
Know better than what? Than to know that someone who quite clearly didn't doubt Shock's claim right off the bat is lying when they say that was the main reason for wanting his lynch? Can you explain your reaction (or lack thereof) to his claim? For once in this game, how about you actually answer something I ask you instead of ignoring me? Not impressed by two missing night actions from Tim, but I can see the flavour for Harvey. Tim: What were your reasons for Scott (both nights)? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/31/11 at 11:36:31 142B32322937382E5D0 wrote:
Mass roleclaim would be stupid imo because of the existence of so many different roles that this game has, and maf could easily hide behind roles that might not be in the game. Name-claim might at least draw out one controversy and definitely , however everyone would have to be agreeing to this before it was put into practice otherwise it would just result in potential role-reveals for the maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 11:50:26 Is everyone blind and ignorant? Did anyone even bother to read Tim's latest post???? Darius must be maf. Web I don't know how the fuck you could ignore that? Web you bring no ideas to the table at all. You address everyone else's posts without every adding any incite of your own. Quite poor play. So back to my original question. Padz or Darius today? First I went with the Darius vote. Then ivo pushed me into thinking padz has the better power role if they are both maf. Padz's reactions still seem so incredibly phony that I can't bring myself to thinking he is town. I also believe that Darius is maf though. Here is my proposal. Everyone would have to be on board for this to work. We lynch padz today. I think he has the better power role and is bussing his teamate Darius. Tonight, roleblocker BLOCK DARIUS. Tomorrow we lynch Darius. 2 mafs should be dead here. I think they are both scum, I really do. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/31/11 at 12:02:25 I actually didn't re-read the whole day yet. Annoys me that everyone always accuses me of never bringing ideas to the table when I do, yet nobody actually seems to notice. Whatever though, maybe it's my playstyle, as I've been accused of it town or maf every game. Regardless, I'd support a Darius lynch strongly. I can't say much on padz as he always plays like this until he gets out of his slump, I'm pretty much certain he isn't lying about killing Scott though. Can't anyone see why RVZ looks suspicious though? (based on what I posted earlier). Since no one really is looking at RVZ at the time being I'll unvote Vote: Darius in order to prevent padz from being lynched very early and at least trying to talk about people other than him. I don't really know if you could get the whole town on supporting this proposal, so I would strongly recommend a Darius lynch today and padz as the focus tomorrow. Tim's claim seems legit to me, albeit hazy due to the missing pieces. However the RB on Darius and no night kills is really telling to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 03/31/11 at 12:07:46 Lol Web, you actually think that padz killed Scott, but also think Tim's claim is legit at the same time? How would that work, if Tim locked Scott padz wouldn't have been able to kill him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 12:21:10 The situation we have here is that padz is a proven scum liar about killing Scott. Darius is a proven scum after getting blocked tonight and no kill was made. 2 proven scums. I think padz has the more dangerous role though because he is hell bent on getting his scum buddy lynched instead of himself. We got this game town. Just follow the fucking simple plan. Obviously padz has the better role though because he wants to bus his teammate as me and ivo pointed out yesterday. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 12:22:44 Also thank you Tim for finally posting and clearing everything up. Finally the clouds and fog are clearing up. Things are becoming clear. Without that post we would be lost Tim. Thanks! Much appreciated. 1 post pinned 2 definite scumbags. ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 12:36:41 what reason do i have to lie about my kills? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 12:37:13 You guys are driving me insane. Did you all read Tim's post? Once you've actually understood it properly, explain how those actions make me mafia. On the topic of reading the game, did anyone read Padz's reaction to Shock's claim other than me? Anyone? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 12:39:55 2537303B3C33263D206366520 wrote:
Slump? This is day 5. I could understand D1 bs posting, but D5? Not answering any questions in past days. Changing opinions. How he dealt with Shock is also inexcusable since he claimed to know he was maf lol? Doesn't make sense. Nothing adds up with what he said. 200 times I have said this game that we have to get a grasp on what is happening at night. Now we finally have a grasp on it and we aren't going to use it to our benefit? The best theoretical option is the padz lynch today. If you don't understand why look at the convo me and ivo had. Padz claimed he vig killed Scott. He didn't realize that Tim had jailed Scott. There is no fucking vig that can kill through jailkeeper protection. Padz is maf. Darius and him are bussing eachother to look like they are on seperate teams but they are on the same team. Padz is absolutely adamant that Darius be the kill. That leads me to believe that he needs to make it to this night and probably has another strongman kill left. We lynch padz. Roleblock Darius rendering him useless. Then lynch Darius tomorrow. Badabing boom. 2 maf should be dead going into D7. Might be game over actually. Depends if there are 4 or 5 mafs or other other admins lurking. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 12:40:38 4170756B6461110 wrote:
It was a nice roleclaim attempt at vig. Too bad Tim disproved it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 12:41:29 1C2D2836393C4C0 wrote:
What reason do you have for repeatedly ignoring my questions? Is it because you don't have a good answer? There are plenty of reasons for scum to lie about kills. I'm not going to tell you what they are. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 12:41:33 here's an idea: tim is lying! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/31/11 at 12:43:01 Also, before I respond to that, I'm confused. Do we have a doc still alive? Or is the protector the only way that Night kills don't go through? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 12:53:06 here's something nobody picked up: it doesnt matter which one of tim and i are lying. we both claimed to be blocked re:darius. why would we both do this if at least one of us is town? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 12:55:20 oh right i didnt say anything until after tim claimed carry on |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 13:07:58 maybe i missed it but how come nobody died if my kill was the only one accounted for? where did scum's kill go? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 13:26:24 and mvt, step back for a second. you know i know trying to bus darius would lead to me getting all the heat. why would i do this? is it so i could say this right now in a last-ditch effort to get u to switch? is it because im such a terrible player that i would make a mistake like that? you said yourself that darius now has to be maf no matter what. technically it's up in the air between tim and i. there is no more evidence to suggest that i lied than there is for tim. if you only voted for me because it was more likely that im maf, why are you not on darius now? especially considering he is bp maf. you wont get anything out of targeting him tonight. tim is cohort, his claim was premade to cover darius' eventual flip and otherwise gives zero information if anyone wants any questions answered from me, fire away. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 13:28:47 687A7D76717E6B706D2E2B1F0 wrote:
Are you seriously asking this question? There are a bunch of ways that kills can be stopped. Rolefishing is the only reason to ask this question. Your question isn't much better, Padz. And as I apparently have to ask you again, how do you explain your reaction to Shock claiming the Koopz kill? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 13:31:31 i bit my tongue. i wasnt going to claim just to lynch a small fry. for someone who has me pinned you sure are desperate to catch me in a lie. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 13:38:42 mvt surely you realize that drawing this much attention to ourselves is shit dissoc because now we're both going to die no matter what |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 13:51:34 4E7F7A646B6E1E0 wrote:
You do things after the fact and consider yourself infallible. Everything is after the fact with you. Stop trying to bait me into takeing a step back man. It's nothing personal. It's just the fact that you have tripped up several times already. You ignored a shit ton of questions at critical points in the game and only now are you willing to attempt to answer them (presumably with made up shit) after you have a ton of pressure on you. There'd be no way you would accept to answer any questions if you had no votes on you. Ah what the hell you already said you had listened to me for the last time. WhaddamIdoin wastin my time talking to you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 13:56:46 mvt i really have not had a whole lot of time to read most of the game much less post. im fielding any and all questions now because i never tried to avoid anyone's questions other than tvl's because he was trying too hard to bait me. if i was infallible would i be in this spot right now? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 03/31/11 at 14:08:42 MVT, don't you think a Darius lynch would be much safer than a padz lynch? For me, I don't know who's lying, Tim or padz. One of them has to be lying and I would also rather think it's padz for his attitude until now, but we can't be sure. I'd rather go with Darius in this case for the lynch because I think the probability of chosing the wrong between Tim and padz is higher than the probability of Darius being Town. Also, it could really have been coincidence that both padz and shock targetted Koopz for the kill, so I wouldn't take that as an evidence for padz lying. Seriously, at the current situation I'm more in favor of a Darius lynch than of a padz lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 14:31:20 Unvote holy shit, much has happened, i really need to reread that o_0 Let's state it this way, i REALLY think darius is mafia now, don't know about padz, but to me, he could be speaking the truth, it's a flip. I don't think shock had killing abilities in the first place. Darius, you're really scared to give away your role right? Why are you so scared for "rolefishing" at this point? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Timothy on 03/31/11 at 14:38:56 Why would I be lying?! You've seen how much time I've had away from the game and you still give me enough credit to come up with such an elaborate plan as that? Thanks for the compliment, but my brains aren't quite that big! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 14:39:20 Quote:
tvl, can you find that post for me? no idea where he posted that. I only trust that if it's day 2 off course :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 14:41:01 3D37343729374E0 wrote:
tim, you still haven't explained why you roleclaimed in the first place |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Timothy on 03/31/11 at 14:44:29 To give us more info about the present roles and how we can use those to our advantage. Bear in mind I wasn't around day 3 so I wasn't up to date with the general flow of the game. If it's the last thing I do I'm going to give town all the info I can. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 14:56:58 As of now it does not seem we're going to lynch you in the first place. Although it was a terrible move out of nowhere, please never ever post a one line role claim like that again -_- |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Timothy on 03/31/11 at 15:00:40 W/e, your style is different to mine. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 03/31/11 at 15:12:30 656F6C6F716F160 wrote:
Nicholas H reference on page 3. @ Darius - I locked Scott because of his attitude towards me. It seemed like he very much liked my posts, but it almost felt like he was overdoing it, perhaps trying to get me 'on his side' or something. Given I was initially roleblocked, I felt it was worth it to try again. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 15:14:21 4D7C75754D78757C190 wrote:
I only asked your opinion and after that asked why you would prefer darius over padz. It wasn't to convince you to vote for one of these two, just trying to understand the reasoning. Tim: i don't care if it's a style difference, if you just randomly open claim with: "what the phuck just happened i blocked him?" people won't have a clue why you did that, it's not like we gained much info out of that, it only caused useless confusion. By the way, both Tim and Padz claim to have been roleblocked, so much roleblockers, do we really buy into that? Time to drink some canadian beers btw, this one is for goose and matt v 8-) I'll be back in a few minutes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 03/31/11 at 15:15:28 Wow, lots of interesting stuff going on here. It's 1 pm here and I'm sleepy, so I'll refrain from taking a firm stand for the moment. Of course I was the biggest supporter (the only in fact) of a padz lynch on day 3 and 4, but I need to review in light of all these recent developments. And we should all do this. First, let me again point out that padz and Shock might both have been vigilante; maybe Shock with just two bullets (as he claimed iirc) and padz with infinite (as he claims). Also, Tim and padz could both be right if Scott's death was the result of an additional night action. Second, I'm confused why many of you are convinced Darius is mafia. I still have a town lean on him, but maybe I haven't read everything throroughly enough; I'll put this on my to-do list for tomorrow. The most compelling argument against Darius I've come across - as far as I've read and can remember - is Tim's claim that he role-blocked him and no one died last night. Anyway, more useful insight from me tomorrow I hope. 1C2D2836393C4C0 wrote:
I've asked it before, I'll ask it again. You posted this in response to the plan of Goose placing the final vote on Shock: 7D4C4957585D2D0 wrote:
What did you mean with the second sentence? 6D524B4B504E4157240 wrote:
Here is his post from day 3 where he uncovers his announcement hidden in his day 2 posts: http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1300464014/1171#1171 Matt V is still absent. Probably because he thinks that he won't get lynched today if he stays quiet (he'd be right too probably). Man I want to kill that guy... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 15:20:41 4D5F5853545B4E55480B0E3A0 wrote:
Sexiest man alive kind of strikes me as a "Jack-of-all-trades" type role, but it doesn't really seem helpful since he didn't leave us with much.[/quote] 47222322130 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 15:25:22 fail, how did i miss that. yeah, he was jack of all trades, or at least that seems logical to me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 15:26:50 padz, why do you never answer question? that was a helpful post, you could be even more helpful if you also tried to answer questions more regulary. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 15:35:33 576B6C6E62705C754F030 wrote:
darius is maf because tim and i both claimed that he was unaffected by our actions. since our claims contradict each other the only way this would make sense is if one of us is a scummate who knows that's what his role does. this is why there is no use picking darius off in the night. he's untouchable. 576B6C6E62705C754F030 wrote:
I've asked it before, I'll ask it again. You posted this in response to the plan of Goose placing the final vote on Shock: 7D4C4957585D2D0 wrote:
What did you mean with the second sentence?[/quote] i was trying to bait maf by seeing who wouldnt budge when given the choice of a goose lynch (this is why i threatened scott in the end). shock responded by immediately pinning me as seer and claiming miller. past that it was becoming obvious that he wasnt going to cooperate w/ anyone past adding more and more horseshit claims to his alibi. i seriously have no idea what the fuck he was thinking. as for his preclaim, he went as far as to highlight suprsilvers name before his lynch was set in stone. i think he just went w/ whatever was convenient. if shock was vig bomb honko would have said so. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 15:36:35 easy ivo, takes time to reply! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 15:56:41 Padz Quote:
why cam, why? o_0 And killing scott just sucks but i can imagine if you really thought he was maf. Tim Quote:
lulz, failing 5 nights when we've only had 4 nights. Good story bro! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 15:59:49 that post above was just to summarize what happened btw. I don't really know who to trust more right now, padz or tim -_- |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Timothy on 03/31/11 at 16:00:05 Woops, I was wondering why I had no night 3 PMs so I assumed I'd missed it ::) Should read: Night 1 forgot Night 2 Scott - Roleblocked Night 3 Scott - Wasn't roleblocked but he was killed Night 4 Darius - Roleblocked Anyway, sleepy time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 03/31/11 at 16:16:30 Votals [3] padz - MVT, (Ivo), RVZ, Darius [2] Darius - padz, (MVT), Web [0] RVZ - (Web) Day ends in 24 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 16:25:49 need to go to bed, tomorrow will be lynch day! lynch darius day that is. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 16:30:29 616B686B756B120 wrote:
Wait so you didn't roleblock him? Or did you attempt to roleblock him? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 16:37:58 tim means the jail went thru n3 but scott still died |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/11 at 16:49:19 hmm, combination of nicolas harvey jailkeeper failure really sounds something lame like naive jailkeeper? I've never really seen that strange combination but i think honko might be able to add that. but i wanted to go to bed and i'm still here, really bed time now! nicolas harvey failed night actions hmmm. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 16:53:04 padz you are scum man. I just have this crazy hunch that you are scum! Nah it's not a crazy hunch. It's a hunch accumulated since the NStride lynch and since you refused to answer me about Scott after he died. Now your willingness to speak and your overall answers are so fake. I can't even begin to go back and look at how many questions I directly asked you throughout this game in which you completely ignored me asking. Some of which I repeated several times and there was no way you missed reading them. Now you want everyone to believe you and listen to you over Tim. Tim has a believable claim that makes sense with the other night actions. Your claim is against what Nstride said and what Tim says, and the night action results. Trust you over both of them and Honko's words? Nah. You're scum days are done and believe me your days are numbered. You might be able to convince these idiots that you are town but I'm not buying it. Not even close. I've never been more frustrated by someone's play in a game than the way you have played this game. You literally have contributed ZERO. You have NOTHING you can hang your hat on and say you got accomplished or snuffed out. Every single one of your reads this game have been inaccurate. Nothing you have said has persuaded anyone. Nothing you have said has helped town. I expected so much more from you this game than 1 liners and obscure connections you make connecting 4, 5, even 6 players as maf and giving no reasoning or evidence. Nobody even really believes a thing you say here. It's incredibly stupid to even speak to you or listen to your posts. I'm just not going to buy into it any more. I'm truly done reading your posts and replying to them. I will reverse my plan since I think Darius is also maf and it seems to be popular opinion. I'll go with that lynch today. Tomorrow if I am alive(u'll probably kill me), no matter what happens at night or what Darius flips, I am voting for you and not moving my vote off no matter what! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 16:54:04 Unvote Vote Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 03/31/11 at 17:06:14 I trust Tim 100% over padz. Tim also would not lie about roleblocking Darius. Padz want's Darius dead to bus his partner. That's why he wouldnt even vote Darius yesterday and probably was going to take his vote off again later today until Tim's claim sealed Darius's fate. Makes no sense to see it any other way. The night actions and Tim's claim confirm padz is maf. Padz you also implied Tim is lying. Well if he is lying that means you think he is maf. You also think Darius is maf. If they are both maf then why the FUCK would Tim tell everyone that he roleblocked Darius!!!!? I mean you can dodge logic like that all day, but there is no way to attack that argument. That argument is air tight. So with Tim being town, Darius being maf, the night actions confirm you are scum as well since Tim is telling the truth. No way in hell Tim and Darius are maf together or else Tim would never out him. You simply can't argue against that case. Try all night to link those together but you just can't. I know you want to have a nice plan in place for people to vote tomorrow after you bus your scum buddy. But if Darius flips maf it's theoretically impossible for Tim to be maf. If Darius does flip maf then you are maf because Tim would be proven to be telling the truth. Tim's night actions would confirm you lied about vig killing scott. Strongman kill moar like it. Vig kill would never go through a jailkeeper and I'm sure of that from past experience. YOU ARE SCUM! Anyone who can't see the facts and logic of this case is severely blind. I clearly laid everything out. If I die and don't make it through the night. Please please please kill padz tomorrow. I'd risk my entire mafia game career that he is scum this game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 03/31/11 at 17:11:22 5D6C65655D68656C090 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 03/31/11 at 18:03:50 Lol @ the April Fool's prank. Anyway fellow Ninjas, as another point off of the Darius/padz case, can't you see the RVZ/Darius connection? It seems like RVZ kind of rode off of Darius' arguments to me. However, the Darius lynch imo is the best for the day. I'm off for the night, however I won't be back on until after school on Friday for the EOD lynching frenzy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 03/31/11 at 20:16:27 Catching up in depth, will post shortly. Quick thought towards TvL though, sorry I havn't been online since the day started, I'm not trying to keep quiet, real life legitimately keeps interfering. If you look at my past games (I only last a couple of days normally), I'm not a lurking kind of person. As I stated before work is doing renovations, didn t know it'd have me personally so swamped, else I may not have signed up for this. Anyways, will post short;ly! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 03/31/11 at 20:46:52 I'm still convinced Zwiebel is maf, but nobody shares my opinion. I may do some indepth analysiss of his posts after. As for the whole Tim-padz-shock roleclaiming business: I don't see it as so farfetched that Shock lied, I mean, a town vig bomb just sounds ridiculous to me, and I can't see Honko making such a role. Could be wrong though, just a gut feeling. I think both padz and Tim are being legit, and it seems like Darius is untargettable at night based on the posts so far. Sounds like a maf role. The thing that confuses me the most is the kill numbers. It seems to me as if someone has a killing role in the game that wasn't activated until N3. No worse than any other theories we could throw out there. Doesn't explain then how 3 people could get their kills blocked last night though (assuming the 3 N3 kills weren't a one-time deal). Anyways, I'll be on for an hour or two tonight,I'm waiting! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 03/31/11 at 20:48:27 Padz if you're behind those kills, can we have reasoning for each kill? I'm also still convinced MVT is town. I know he's an expert player, and could be hiding a maf role, but he's the one guy I get a really strong townie vibe from. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 03/31/11 at 21:06:47 1F3A29322E285B0 wrote:
Are you seriously asking this question? There are a bunch of ways that kills can be stopped. Rolefishing is the only reason to ask this question. Your question isn't much better, Padz. And as I apparently have to ask you again, how do you explain your reaction to Shock claiming the Koopz kill?[/quote] This is the post from Darius that irks me the most, and makes me very suspicious of him. There are others, I just havn't quoted them.. It was a legitimate question to me, and you turn it into a scummy act. He wasn't asking for anyone's role. Not that I'm convinced web is town, but still. There isn't alot of rolefishing to be done since we've got two claims already going this day. I still want to know why you're untargettable at night, as this is the only explanation that fits for me. I think you're scum. Vote: Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 03/31/11 at 21:09:50 Also, just wanted to apologizing for cluttering up this page so much. My thoughts keep coming randomly, and you can't edit posts, plus nobody is online but me (I suppose all you Europeans are asleep). I'm going to watch TV now for a bit, I'm leaving this window open, and will refresh it regularly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 03/31/11 at 21:19:03 Votals [4] Darius - padz, (MVT), Web, MVT, MattV [2] padz - (MVT), (Ivo), RVZ, Darius [0] RVZ - (Web) Day ends in 19 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 03/31/11 at 22:20:39 It's 2:20 in the morning, and I can't stay up waiting for posts anymore. Good night all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 23:08:54 What is wrong with everyone? Is Padz's inability to read the game catching? Tim was roleblocked. Hear that? Roleblocked. 6554514F4045350 wrote:
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If we do have a doctor, for example, do you really want them to give themselves away? We've already had too many unnecessary roleclaims in this game. It's got nothing to do with my role; if I have to claim then so be it. The fact is that people are acting like it's ok to ask setup-based questions that would quite clearly out another role (see below). Unless that role can clear someone/prove they're guilty, they shouldn't be claiming. If we're going to do massclaim, it's a different story, but not everyone agrees on that. 467E6362654E417D706874634E54677463110 wrote:
Are you seriously asking this question? There are a bunch of ways that kills can be stopped. Rolefishing is the only reason to ask this question. Your question isn't much better, Padz. And as I apparently have to ask you again, how do you explain your reaction to Shock claiming the Koopz kill?[/quote] This is the post from Darius that irks me the most, and makes me very suspicious of him. There are others, I just havn't quoted them.. It was a legitimate question to me, and you turn it into a scummy act. He wasn't asking for anyone's role. Not that I'm convinced web is town, but still. There isn't alot of rolefishing to be done since we've got two claims already going this day. I still want to know why you're untargettable at night, as this is the only explanation that fits for me. I think you're scum. Vote: Darius[/quote] Web specifically asked if there was a doctor. What did he expect to happen, that the doctor would show up and claim his role? That is a terrible, terrible idea. 6D5C5947484D3D0 wrote:
darius is maf because tim and i both claimed that he was unaffected by our actions. since our claims contradict each other the only way this would make sense is if one of us is a scummate who knows that's what his role does. this is why there is no use picking darius off in the night. he's untouchable. 576B6C6E62705C754F030 wrote:
I've asked it before, I'll ask it again. You posted this in response to the plan of Goose placing the final vote on Shock: 7D4C4957585D2D0 wrote:
What did you mean with the second sentence?[/quote] i was trying to bait maf by seeing who wouldnt budge when given the choice of a goose lynch (this is why i threatened scott in the end). shock responded by immediately pinning me as seer and claiming miller. past that it was becoming obvious that he wasnt going to cooperate w/ anyone past adding more and more horseshit claims to his alibi. i seriously have no idea what the fuck he was thinking. as for his preclaim, he went as far as to highlight suprsilvers name before his lynch was set in stone. i think he just went w/ whatever was convenient. if shock was vig bomb honko would have said so.[/quote] First of all, you and Tim both claimed you were roleblocked when you targeted me. This is not the same as your actions not working, this means you were roleblocked. How does that tell you anything about my alignment? The conclusion that I must be untargettable is nonsense. Secondly, SHOCK WAS PROVEN TO BE A BOMB. Did it say that in his role name when he flipped? No. Did he explode when we lynched him? Yes. Shock had no reason to lie about killing Koopz. None. He made that claim unprompted, he dropped breadcrumbs saying he was going to kill Koopz and, most importantly, he flipped town. This was not some scum plot. Shock thought Koopz was scummy, he clearly planned to kill him and he came out the next day admitting he did kill him. MVT: your 'logical' case is based on one assumption that you STILL haven't answered my question about: how does Tim being roleblocked last night make me scum? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 03/31/11 at 23:13:13 Pulled this quote up and then didn't comment on it. 6554514F4045350 wrote:
You didn't have to claim. Even just saying 'not buying the vig claim' in response would have made me more likely to believe your claim. Essentially you had absolutely no response to the claim whatsoever. If you were a townie who thought Shock was lying you would have at least exhibited some doubt about the kill claim when he made it. There is no evidence of this whatsoever; in fact, you pushed on Shock when his claim got more outlandish, not when he claimed the kill. Can everyone else please read this and tell me I'm not mad? It seems like everyone else is ignoring this crucial point. If you have read it and don't agree with it, can you please tell me why you believe Padz despite his reaction to Shock claiming the kill not being consistent with his claim? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 02:05:52 Quote:
Your kill got blocked too matt?? So easy how you give yourself away here [smiley=lolk.gif] I've wanted to lynch you for such a long time, but now i'm sure |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 02:08:42 Mvt, both padz and tim claim to have been roleblocked, so there's no such thing as believing one over another. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 02:22:57 I'm still not clear on everything that's going on, but I'll put one of my two cents in for now and give the other one later, if you recognize the expression. I'm supposed to be working now so I don't have much time. I repeat with Darius: although Shock clearly did something terribly wrong, there was absolutely no reason at all for him to lie. He was town. He said he was a bomb and he was. He announced KoopZ's death and KoopZ did die. Do you really think, if he wasn't vig, that he put in this announcement "just in case"? And why? Tim's role-claim looks very strange; I wouldn't expect that from a townie. But I would expect that even less from a mafia. Not only to claim it for no apparent reason, but also to claim that the action didn't have the expected result. I'll trust him for now, although Ivo did catch him in a lie/mistake about night 5. padz is finally talking, but only after the pressure was mounting. He wasn't there to answer my questions before. Killing Cam on night 1 also seems senseless to me. Still don't know about Darius. I have some serious reading and thinking to do before I can have a well-formed opinion about him. MVT, you need to chill out. You are really convinced about your reads and give the impression that no one could possibly say anything to make you doubt yourself. I feel that a good player should doubt himself constantly and be open-minded towards other opinions and new facts. Your absolute conviction actually raises my suspicions about you. If we end up lynching Darius or padz and the lynchee comes up town, I'll be on you like a ton of bricks on day 6. 5D6578797E555A666B736F78554F7C6F780A0 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 02:32:17 Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) - claimed by Padz Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) - Mafia kill? KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) - claimed by Shock & Padz Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) - Mafia/Admin kill fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) - Mafia/Admin kill? Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) - claimed by Padz, jailkeep claimed by Tim Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3) - Mafia/Admin kill? N4 - nothing - Padz claimed he targeted me and was blocked So, what do we know? 1. There were only two kills N1, and one of them was on Admin with the other claimed by Padz. This could mean: a) Admin never had a kill b) Admin's kill was blocked c) Padz is Admin d) Padz is lying 2. We have one kill claimed by two people on N2 and only one other kill that night. This could mean: a) Shock and Padz both killed Koopz b) Shock lied c) Padz is lying and also: a) A Mafia/Admin kill was blocked b) Admin also killed Koopz c) Sportsguy was the only Admin d) Admin never had a kill 3. We have 3 NKs here, with Padz claiming Scott and Tim claiming he jailkept Scott. This could mean: a) Padz is town vig, Tim's role doesn't actually do what it says it does and the other two kills were scum b) Padz is town vig, Tim is lying and the other two kills were scum c) Padz is scum with a strongman kill and the other two kills were scum/another town vig d) We had two town vig kills, Tim's role doesn't actually do what it says it does and one scum kill e) There is an additional anti-town killing role we don't know about that made the third kill in addition to Padz and scum, and Tim's role doesn't actually do what it says it does f) Padz is just straight-up lying about the kills and there was one each from Mafia, Admin and town vig, with one of the scum kills being strongman. 4. No NKs, with Padz and Tim both claiming to target me and being roleblocked. This could mean: a) I have an 'untargettable' role where I can't be targeted by any action and mafia's kill also got blocked b) Tim's jailkeep worked and both Padz-town and scum kills targeted me. c) Tim's jailkeep worked and Padz is scum who targeted me. d) Padz is lying to make theory a) sound more plausible and is actually scum whose kill got blocked elsewhere e) Tim is lying to make theory a) sound more plausible and is actually scum whose kill got blocked elsewhere f) Tim is telling the truth about the jailkeep and the block, but is also scum, hence being roleblocked prevented a kill g) Padz & Tim are both scum and set up the theory to frame me after their kill was blocked. Conclusions: This isn't a bastard mod game so it seems unlikely that Honko would lie to Tim about what his role does. Jailkeeper ought to protect, therefore either Tim is lying that he protected Scott, or Padz is lying that he killed Scott with a normal kill. The three kills also suggest to me that Padz is either telling the truth about his killing ability, or he knows who actually did make those kills, making him mafia. They also tell me that it's likely we have 3 factions - I don't see any reason to doubt the vig part of Shock's claim and I don't think we have 3 town-aligned vigs. If Padz is telling the truth about the deaths, he's either town or Admin. If Tim is also telling the truth about his jailkeeping, Padz must be Admin. If Tim is lying about jailkeeping Scott, he's mafia and Padz is most likely town. I'm also not sure that Tim telling the truth about his role is indicative of his alignment; I find it hard to believe that both of them could legitimately have been blocked by mafia, which makes me doubt Tim as much as Padz on that front. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 02:54:56 Other general thoughts: MVT's 'logic' is ridiculous. The more this game goes on the more it seems like he's playing with an agenda, because his conclusions don't make any sense on the face of it. I'm very keen to see how he answers my question. Zwiebel is mega-scummy for this post: 4F627C70777079150 wrote:
Playing for a 'safe' lynch is not an option now. We need to lynch correctly or we could be screwed. This is a post entirely designed to back another mislynch and make sure neither Padz nor Tim gets lynched today. Matt V's vote reeks of following along with the general consensus. He's either scum or a townie with no critical thought process. Matt, explain how the claimed actions indicate I'm untargettable, and how that would explain the lack of NKs? Web is...I don't think I can even bring myself to say much more on the topic. He's illogical, inconsistent and takes the path of least resistance at every opportunity. The only reason he's getting away with it is because of these claims. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 03:46:10 Quote:
I like this paragraph, and it seems like you've made some good posts after that too. now i'll do some catch up reading on Darius' latest posts. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 03:51:05 4F6A79627E780B0 wrote:
interesting word choice there! why not bulletproof instead of something that implies indirect blocking? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 03:51:27 5F7A69726E681B0 wrote:
Playing for a 'safe' lynch is not an option now. We need to lynch correctly or we could be screwed. This is a post entirely designed to back another mislynch and make sure neither Padz nor Tim gets lynched today. [/quote] What? A safe lynch for me is the lynch with the highest probability of hitting Maf. For me that's you at the moment. I know we need to lynch correctly, that's exactly my point and what I was trying to say. Are you trying to confuse the Town? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 03:52:14 shock lied about: -being miller -being hated townie not too huge a stretch to assume he lied about everything but the bomb part. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 04:00:12 1021243A3530400 wrote:
interesting word choice there! why not bulletproof instead of something that implies indirect blocking? :-?[/quote] If I was bulletproof, you'd have tried to kill me and nothing would have happened. That's not the same as being roleblocked, as you claimed you were. 4475706E6164140 wrote:
Please stop ignoring the parts that don't suit you. Are you seriously saying that Shock breadcrumbed the Koopz kill before it happened when he didn't actually have a killing role? Why on earth would town-Shock come out and claim the kill at the start of the day, under no pressure? Why would you not bat an eyelid at that claim if you made the kill (and no, I don't mean by counterclaiming, I mean by saying ANYTHING to indicate you doubted it)? We also don't know he lied about being miller. We have no investigation results to prove that. The only thing that it does seem he lied about is the hated part. Zwiebel: why am I the highest probability of hitting maf? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 04:13:59 7F54534F523D0 wrote:
Note: Shock was hater. He might have misinterpreted it as hated. Apparently there was a difference. This explains Shock's claims very well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 04:15:19 Quote:
He's nicolas harvey, the american jailkeeper. I think he could VERY well be the naive jailkeeper. We all know how naive nick is. Quote:
I think they could both be telling the truth, if tim is the naive jailkeeper. but i don't trust padz at all. For some reason i think tim's post are really genuine, i think he's telling the truth. Quote:
could both be truth, i'm fairly sure padz indeed has a killing ability. padz Quote:
And he announced that he would kill koopz and did so. He had the "role of MVT", town hater, he could very well have had a one shot ability besides being bomb. Quote:
3 town alligned vigs????? shock - town bomb with one shot ability padz - claims vig who's the third? Two factions, mafia+admins and town with a vig still alive seems much more logical. Quote:
padz=mark jones! he can kill through protection! Could very well be, but other people could have this role too. It does explain the scott kill at least |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 04:18:02 nice find thomas! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 04:21:40 @Darius My arguments for you being Mafia are the same as before, I'm not going to repeat them the 5th time for you. Plus your newest try to say my post is scummy, then repeating everything I wrote in my post. That just doesn't make sense. I think you're desperately trying to see something suspicious in every post to get spared. Seriously, you're basically just confirming my opinion about you. I have no vote on you yet, but only because I think you have 4 votes atm already and I don't want to have something like D4 again. Consider it to be on you though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 04:28:29 But who would've wanted to kill Scott? Remember that at the end of day 3, he freaked out and tried to push for a Goose lynch while everyone was set to lynch Shock. People were already starting to think Scott was mafia or admin. He looked ripe for a night vig kill or a day 4 lynch, so I very much doubt that the godfather (assuming he has a strong killing ability) would go after Scott. Remember that the mafia killed quiet people in night 1 and 2, and probably also night 4 (Sword). I'm not sure if it would make sense for a Mark Jones to go after Scott. It would make perfect sense for a town vig though. Another question: who killed fank? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 04:33:55 That's a good question actually TvL. I'm convinced Mafia wouldn't kill fank, his confusion probably even helped Mafia. Same would go for a possible Admin team, why would they want to kill fank? He was also helping them to avoid attention. So his kill would only make sense if we have another Vig role. What the shit. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 04:38:48 Does a Jack of all Trades have a killing ability? Maybe Sword killed fank then, and got killed by the Mafia at the same time. But Shock and Sword having a 1 shot ability? I really don't know. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 04:45:40 I like your Sword theory! You're wrong about Shock though: 4748425F4C4A534842434348260 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 04:47:07 Then there would be a 2 shot ability, a 1 shot ability and a infinite shot vig? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 04:56:27 I think Zwiebel might have hit the nail on the head there with Sword. JOATs usually have 4 1-shot abilities: cop, doc, block and vig. Given that was the only night with 3 kills and that people had been saying Fank should be vigged all game, I'd put money on Sword making that kill if he was JOAT. If that is true, I really don't think Padz is also a vig. It seems very unlikely that town would have three separate roles with vig abilities, particularly as Padz has claimed no limitation at all. If that were true, we could potentially have had 5 kills a night, which is too much. Ivo: you seem to have misinterpreted. I was saying it was very unlikely we have 3 town-aligned vigs. The explanation that Sword made the Fank kill and that the other two were mafia fits in much better. TvL: right, but most of that suspicion was based on people thinking Scott was mafia with Shock. Once Shock flipped town, that stops becoming a point against Scott. I agree that Scott wasn't looking like the most pro-town player given the way he reacted, though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 05:15:00 74484F4D41537F566C200 wrote:
I want to kill that guy REALLY badly, he's been so obvious mafia that it hurts my eyes. Matt v Quote:
No, Darius is not untargettable at night, i do not believe this. Darius is already getting much heat, do not just add more with "sounds like a maf role" There's absolutely no reason to believe darius is mafia because padz got blocked. Quote:
He's screaming here BOOHOO, i got blocked tooo >:( Who did you try to kill this night matt? Vote Matt V Darius Quote:
Yeah, that does sound logical. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 05:19:40 Seriously, if we do not lynch either Matt V or padz today i'll cry. Preferably Matt V, but padz has been lying out of his ass about his role. The only thing that is true is that he has a killing role. And now i'm going to read zwiebels posts more carefully. He been slipping under my attention way too much. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 05:43:19 Hmm, just read through a bunch of zwiebel post and i've got to say that i don't really like it. He's been saying a lot of general stuff, which is ok, but about most players he said... nothing. The only player you've been focussing on for the entire game is darius :o I posted some huge argument about why i didn't like darius style back in day 2, and from there on you've been hunting him down. I think darius has given proper responses to most accusations Who would you say (after darius) is the most scummy? What if we lynch Darius and he comes up town? In other words, what would be the back up plan? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 05:45:19 Tvl, i also like to see your preferred lynches, i don't know as you did not vote a single time today, and did not say much about it either. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 05:47:14 Ivo, I think Matt could well be mafia, especially given how little thought he put in to hopping on my wagon, but Padz is almost certainly lying. Why Matt over Padz? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 05:55:29 quintuple post! as a bonus you'll get ivo's list of most scummy to least scummy 1 Matt V mafia mafia mafia! fun fun fun! 2 padz i've got the feeling he's lying all the time 3 Zwiebel see post above 4 Web meh, need to dig more into his posts. 5 Darius still really strange he has not been able to clear himself as a true townie, but his reasoning today seems fine 6 RVZ he seems honest, compared to the other game in which he was mafia that is, i terribly misread him there though 7 Tvl he seems honest and has gotten much more helpful during the game. 8 Timothy dunno why, just think mafia would be not that stupid to roleclaim in such a position. At least he made the game interesting. 9 MVT has the crazy reasoning he always has as townie, is also often incorrect but that's fine as a townie, at least he'll always start some good discussions Darius has gone down a few positions, i really like his reasoning today, the upper two REALLY stand out, followed by zwiebel, then a big gap, followed by disclaimer: i might be incorrect! this is just how I feel about it. For more indepth posts about players, look at my other posts, i've made plenty. And yes, i'll answer questions. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 05:59:17 EDIT: ^ Quintuple post fail! ;D @Ivo: I have not voted yet because I'm simply not sure. I had a maf lean on padz, but needed to digest his claims to see if that might change my mind. I had a town lean on Darius, but (still) need to re-review his posts because some people I have a town lean on (Zwiebel & MVT) seem very confident that he's mafia. I've also not voted for RVZ or Matt V because I feel we need to focus on the matter at hand first (padz, Darius & Tim). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 06:09:45 fuck, quintuple post screwed by darius :( Anyway to answer your question, I've made some posts about matt v during day 4 i think, and some during today, do i need to dig them up again? Matt uses flawed reasoning to hop onto bad bandwagons, causes confusion, goes after the (in my opinion) wrong people. Quote:
I've quoted this 2 times already, but this really is the sentence that made me realize he must be maf. How does he know 3 people got there kill blocked? Maybe it's just 2? Maybe they weren't blocked? redirected, or protected or whatever? My conclusion is that his kill got blocked. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 04/01/11 at 06:14:15 Votals [4] Darius - padz, (MVT), Web, MVT, MattV [2] padz - (MVT), (Ivo), RVZ, Darius [1] MattV - Ivo [0] RVZ - (Web) Day ends in 10 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 06:20:31 Ivo: I get why you think he's mafia (although I don't think going after the wrong people is a scumtell in itself), I just think Padz is more likely mafia. As for the quote, I think I'll let Matt answer that first. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 06:26:48 ivo, how is darius not maf? my problem is that every argument against me completely rests on the fact that 'tim is obviously town and not lying'. id argue that tim is rb maf but he didnt even claim to have actually done anything so he is probably vanilla maf! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 06:33:40 no, it's that you claimed vig, and kills that have been proven made by town are still being claimed by you. It does not make sense. Neither does the cam kill make any sense. You made that up. We've already discussed how it's fairly impossible to have more than 2 town people with killing abilities. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 06:36:10 Ivo, I'm focussing on Darius today because I am sure he is Mafia. I can't see your point though that I have not gone after other people, I can only agree that it seems that I'm focussing a bit too much on Darius today, but you can be sure that I'm still aware of everyone else. If you have read my posts, you should have seen that I'm also very suspicious about Matt since a long time, but no one seemed to care about him until now. And I also implicated that I'm bothered by the fact that if Sword really was Jack of all trades, and Shock was a 2 shot vig, padz having an infinite shot vig role is unlikely. If you have posts that prove your point, I'd be interested in seeing them. Also I think I have stated my opinion on nearly every player by now, if I haven't mentioned someone you can guess that I think that person is Town. As for what happens if Darius is Town, at least we then know his role and can maybe assume from it if padz/Tim lied or told the truth about being blocked when targetting him. According to that, we either investigate one of them or if both are telling the truth we should go after the next suspect(which would be Matt in my eyes). Also, since a mislynch then would probably cost us the win, roleclaiming would be good in my eyes then so we can see who was telling the truth about what. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 06:39:30 Hmm, i've got to go for now. Don't know how much i'll be online, i'll be at a friends house and i'm sure i'll stay active, either on my phone, or at his computer. And i think i'll be online at my own home for the last 2-3 hours tonight. My vote stays on matt v for now, but padz has a virtual vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 06:41:04 Padz: one of my main points against you has nothing to do with Tim. Do you know what one of the best ways to verify PR claims is? Read back over their reactions to certain events in the game and see if it's compatible with the claim. Your reaction to Shock's claim to killing Koopz is not compatible with you knowing he didn't do it. Therefore, I think you are lying. Myself and others have also outlined how Shock did not only tell the truth about the bomb aspect of his role, he also pre-emptively indicated his Koopz kill and could have been confused about the 'Hater' name, explaining his hated townie claim. Your excuses that you didn't want to counterclaim Shock so you said nothing at all and that Shock was just lying about the kill are both incredibly feeble. Then there's the fact that town wouldn't have three vigs and yes, the fact that Tim's claim is incompatible with yours. I don't think Tim's claim guarantees he's town in any way, but I'm a lot more inclined to believe he's telling the truth than you are. Incidentally, if you think Tim is lying, why aren't you voting him? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 06:41:29 4C736A6A716F6076050 wrote:
You're going out of your way to try and incriminate me? 3 people got killed N3, and none N4, which would mean 3 roleblocks. That was my thinking until the Sword theory got posted. Ivo, I believe you are probably town, and that's the only reason I'm even addressing you. Why defend myself to people I suspect are mafia? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 06:46:16 I'm less sure of how mafia Darius is now (75 maf, 25 town), simply because of all the opinions he's contributing (could just be his last ditch efforts to pull another lynnch off him though). However, because of how much information his lynch will give, he still seems a good lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 06:46:41 4065766D7177040 wrote:
except under this scenario tim, me and (according to ivo) matt v got blocked. at least 3 blockers plus jack block/protect would offset 5 kills easy. theres no way there are three blockers. if tim and i are both saying that we got blocked, it means darius is bp maf. if tim is maf he changed his claim beforehand to adjust for scumbud darius's role. this would make sense w/ tim claiming early cus hed know he wouldnt be forced into actually giving out any more info! 4065766D7177040 wrote:
scott pulled off shock knowing goose would get bombed after shock had been confirmed to be lying (and presumably the bomb was a bluff as well). the intuition seemed too great to be from a town player. that said there wasnt much reason for him to pull since if goose pulled it would have just killed web instead of scott the vanilla (who died anyway). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 06:47:13 467E6362654E417D706874634E54677463110 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 06:49:31 48706D6C6B404F737E667A6D405A697A6D1F0 wrote:
ARGH [smiley=uzi.gif] that's why you're maf, how terrible is that reasoning |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 06:50:41 Seems i'll be on for another hour by the way |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 06:53:20 what is bp maf? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 06:54:29 Why is it terrible reasoning Ivo? He's still the overall most suspected maf. I'm sorry I'm not up to your expert playing standards. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 06:55:09 370F1213143F300C011905123F25160512600 wrote:
You're going out of your way to try and incriminate me? 3 people got killed N3, and none N4, which would mean 3 roleblocks. That was my thinking until the Sword theory got posted. Ivo, I believe you are probably town, and that's the only reason I'm even addressing you. Why defend myself to people I suspect are mafia?[/quote] The bolded is why I thought you'd said it, and I think that's a fair assumption to make. It's a bit simplistic, as it doesn't take into account things like 1-shot abilities, but I can certainly see a townie thinking it. As for your last post, way to scum it up again. It's D5. 'This is a good information lynch' is not a good reason on D5. Several people have posted reasons why Padz is incredibly likely to be mafia. Do you think Padz is telling the truth? If he is, do you think Tim is telling the truth? Can you answer my question about how last night's actions make me mafia? Padz: BP roles do not roleblock anyone who targets them. They're just protected from kills. And as far as I can tell, you're admitting that there aren't 5 vigs. I don't even understand your second point. Are you saying that Scott thought Shock was lying about the bomb claim too? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 06:56:15 4F776A6B6C47487479617D6A475D6E7D6A180 wrote:
This is brilliant. You suspect me because I'm the most suspected? Is that actually your argument? Ivo: BP is bulletproof. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 06:58:42 Darius my first theory for the three kills was a power role which doesn't activate until D3, I posted that a while ago. Despite the overall attitude of my previous post, my question to Ivo was legitimate. Who could we possibly get more reads from than with a Darius lynch. You're only being so critical because you're the only one who thinks he's town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 06:59:28 Alright, I'm gonna go through and make my case against Darius right now, hold on. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 06:59:43 0D283B203C3A490 wrote:
right on all counts. i fucked myself by concealing my opinion. that said i seriously doubt he pre-empted the koopz kill cus he posted like five other names and emphasized them during the day too. he just played like a fucking idiot and i have no idea why anyone would believe a single damn thing he said after claiming miller like that. 0D283B203C3A490 wrote:
because you're bp maf! i'd like to say there's already a surefire way to resolve this dispute in having tim jail me tonight. unfortunately scum will hold off on killing anyone to frame me! so the only way is to assert my kill. i will kill tim tonight. if he is town i am fucked so nobody should have any problems with this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 07:00:25 Quote:
However (so you admit it's not a good lynch) because of how much information his lynch will give (that's not the criteria we're using to lynch someone) he still seems a good lynch (ah) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 07:05:06 I really don't understand the reasoning why darius is bulletproof mafia. I could see you guys thinking he's mafia, but bulletproof? Why? because padz got roleblocked tonight? Who else tried to kill him? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 04/01/11 at 07:06:11 Note: Day ends in 10 hours (exactly 6pm Pacific). I will not be here until ~30 minutes before EOD, so use mafia.cgi for votals. If a majority is reached before then, stop posting. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 07:06:52 407865646348477B766E72654852617265170 wrote:
You want to bring up your case after you accused him? You should have just done so before you accused him in the first place. Oh wait, Darius seems to be the main suspicion, you can of course just jump on the bandwagon without reasoning. Sorry! [smiley=flush.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 07:09:56 lol, are you guys finally seeing the flawed reasoning from matt v. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:10:04 Who then would you consider the best lynch today (besides myself)? Padz? I believe he's being legit about his killing role. Why would mafia kill Scott when he was going to look scummy as fuck the next day? I feel like I'm missing a piece of info from that scenario from some reason though, I'm gonna check again just in case, but that question sticks for me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:11:22 Or maybe I'm going to make my case because Ivo is questioning, and I still get townie vibe from him. Still want to hear more from MVT too though. edit to say above post was directed at ivo |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 07:12:32 506875747358576B667E62755842716275070 wrote:
"Fuck Ivo is after me I need to make up a good case fast" |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:13:11 "Fuck Zwiebel is scummy as fuck and I've been saying so for days now." |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:16:07 I've been scanning the votals on the cgi page, and it really sucks how little we can draw from them, simply because so many town players have played a horrible game (not that I'm doing much better). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:18:17 09362F2F342A2533400 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 07:21:40 Padz: BP roles do not roleblock everything that targets them. So I ask you again, why me if you think Tim is lying? Matt: there is absolute stacks of evidence against Padz. To summarise the main points that people have made because you're obviously not reading: 1. He did not react to Shock's kill claim at all, despite claiming to know that Shock was lying. 2. He claims to have made a normal kill that somehow went through Tim's jailkeep. 3. His Camster kill does not make a whole lot of sense from town. 4. It is incredibly unlikely there are 3 town-aligned killing roles. Is your counter to all of this that you don't think mafia would have killed Scott? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:27:18 I never said he had a town killing role. Please revise your points and questions accordingly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 07:28:08 68504D4C4B606F535E465A4D607A495A4D3F0 wrote:
What? Are you kidding me? You think he has an anti-town killing role and you don't want to lynch him? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 07:34:20 I think everyone agrees padz has a killing role. I still think that he's mark jones and made the kill even when scott was protected by tim. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 07:35:08 Anyway, i really need to go now, i'll be checking the topic regulary. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 07:36:16 744B52524957584E3D0 wrote:
ask honko yourself in postgame, my kills are not strongarm |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 1: Dying in a Fire Post by Timothy on 04/01/11 at 07:37:20 7E7477746A740D0 wrote:
I'm not lying. I already showed you this post on page 3. I posted so I could reference it later if roles needed to be claimed. Blatant Nicholas H reference. If only I'd put "God Bless America" as well! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 07:37:34 darius yr entire strat hinges on tim. find something that incriminates me. cam was super sus. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:39:04 7A57494542454C200 wrote:
Oh look I'm trying to lynch the person with the highest probability of being maf, Timur, I must be scum. ::) 5578666A6D6A630F0 wrote:
Mafia boy hit it perfect here. More proof that Darius is the best lynch today. He has the highest chance of being mafia, and will give us the most information. I wish Ivo would stop being so stubborn. 505A595A445A230 wrote:
I locked Darius, but was roleblocked, so I'm confused as phuck as to the fact that no one died. I am Nicholas H, Jailkeeper. I roleclaimed because I was confused as to how Scott died when I chose to lock him, I was not roleblocked. You shouldn't lynch me because it's now crunch time and I have a useful ability. If we can collaborate we can come out on top. [/quote] Playing for a 'safe' lynch is not an option now. We need to lynch correctly or we could be screwed. This is a post entirely designed to back another mislynch and make sure neither Padz nor Tim gets lynched today. [/quote] What? A safe lynch for me is the lynch with the highest probability of hitting Maf. For me that's you at the moment. I know we need to lynch correctly, that's exactly my point and what I was trying to say. Are you trying to confuse the Town? [/quote] 1425203E3134440 wrote:
How can you guys not see that Darius is an untargettable mafia! This is why we need to lynch him. Padz should prob be jailed tonight by Tim. 4D687B607C7A090 wrote:
What? Are you kidding me? You think he has an anti-town killing role and you don't want to lynch him?[/quote] Never said I don't want him dead. Just want you lynched because I'm sure you're untargettable. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 07:41:02 Shower time, then work. Will read and possibly post once more before leaving. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 07:46:37 Padz, you really cannot be serious. A few minutes ago you admitted that my chief point, the one about not reacting to Shock's claim, was completely valid. Now my 'entire strat hinges on tim'? What are you talking about? As for the Cam kill, I don't find that to be as much of a point against you as Ivo, I was just listing the main problems people had with your claim. The only real reason I find that scummy is because Cam suspected Sportsguy in one of the few posts he made and that was the reason I thought that Admin were likely to have made that kill. Matt, before I go nuts at your complete inability to ignore the point of everything I ask you, answer one question for me with simply a yes or no: 1. Do you think Padz is mafia? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Matt V on 04/01/11 at 08:00:36 I think Padz is Mafia or Admin. Gone to work now everyone, see y'all later. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 08:15:35 So you would rather lynch me, based on a ridiculous untargettable mafia theory, than someone you're pretty sure is mafia or admin? Furthermore, you admit you think he's scum after saying this: 615944454269665A574F53446973405344360 wrote:
Now we know one of Padz's buddies too. Good stuff. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 08:32:39 I'll be out for a few hours now but I'll be back before the end of the day. Padz is obv-scum as far as I'm concerned and I think he should be our lynch today. Matt's attitude towards his slot is not indicative of town thinking and looks very much like a buddy to me, so he's second. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 04/01/11 at 08:58:33 7746435D5257270 wrote:
ask honko yourself in postgame, my kills are not strongarm[/quote] lol supersilver reference Darius, Tim said he roleblocked you last night did he not? If he roleblocked you and no kills were made doesn't that make you a killer? I don't understand how you are saying Tim got blocked. But maybe I misread his posts. Entirely possible. Padz is just comedy scum at this point. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 09:13:05 padz ignored all the accusations again! comedy scum indeed. Unvote Vote padz |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 09:14:08 mvt, tim himself said he was roleblocked |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 10:36:49 Ok, I've gone through most of the posts of day 4 and 5 about and from Darius. My conclusion remains the same as before: I don't know why so many of you want to lynch him. As far as I've seen, he has given an explanation to all concerns that have been raised, his explanations look very plausible to me, and he is contributing very well. This is a lot more than I can say about most other people here. MVT: you jumped on Darius on day 4 at the initiative of padz of all people. Since then you haven't shown a shred of doubt. You don't seem to listen to what Darius has to say in his defense. I've checked your last 50 posts, and you haven't quoted a single post by him! Circumstancial evidence, granted, but very remarkable. Zwiebel: you attacked Darius on the basis of his Supr/fank switch and his inactivity on day 3. Darius answered to both. This was your response to his answer about Supr/fank: 6548565A5D5A533F0 wrote:
This just screams to me that you're not being objective. You get your explanation and you dismiss it with a void argument. More to follow. (Edited to fix typo) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 11:04:47 About the other people voting Darius: I think Web is just going with MVT's and Zwiebel's flow because he trusts them. Or maybe he is bad news too, I'm not sure. padz and Matt V I think are scum. Matt V's scummy posts have already been pointed out. The fact that he's going after Darius actually makes me feel even better about Darius. Also, Darius himself pointed out that Matt V is inconsistent about padz. I don't trust padz because of his previous weird behavior and the fact that he only made an effort to explain himself when the pressure was really mounting. And still there are holes. Vote: padz (But Matt V will do as well) More about the night actions to follow. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 11:18:17 MVT: both Tim and Padz claimed to be roleblocked. They both said they targeted me. Padz is claiming that I can't be targeted by any abilities because both of them were roleblocked, which does not make sense if you think I'm mafia. Either I can't be targeted by any abilities, in which case I would have been able to make a kill if I was mafia, or I can be targeted by abilities, in which case the 'untargettable' reason that several people have cited as a reason for lynching me is nonsense. Either way, it doesn't fit in with the reasons people want me lynched. You, Padz, Matt V, Zwiebel and Web have all been pretty blindly going for me with no consideration of my actual posts or of what the night actions mean, so I'm fairly confident we can find the remaining scum there. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/01/11 at 11:36:44 Right, I have to go out for the evening and I'm not sure I'll make it back before the end of day. Padz is the clear lynch in my mind and I think I've made it clear why and answered all the points against me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 04/01/11 at 13:26:08 7E5B48534F493A0 wrote:
You know that actually does make sense. At first I did not know that Tim was also claiming to be roleblocked last night. So padz actually is caught dead in a lie. I think you're both maf so it doesn't bother me much at all to switch between you both. Unvote Vote padz |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 13:28:06 where the fuck has rvz gone? leaves a vote on me at the very beginning and fucks right off |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 13:29:47 darius is untargettable. it wont even matter because apparently everyone but me is rb. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 13:31:16 mvt is either fucking retarded or mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 13:39:12 Everyone be advised: padz is upto 5 votes now. Nobody vote for him anymore!! (Not until the very end of the day at least) I'm still trying to make sense of the night actions (while watching tv, so I'm going slow). Can someone from the experienced players tell me how common it is for the mafia to have a member with a (strong) killing ability? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 13:58:05 tim will surely hammer before eod. if you want the day to last, pull off. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 14:16:50 I've been going over the night kills again, but questions popped up I don't know the answer to. One I posted above, about how common it is for the mafia to have a member with a (strong) killing ability. Second, if there is an admin serial killer out there, I don't know what strategy he is likely to follow, so I can't tell if some kills are possibly admin kills. Other issues I'm struggling with: If padz is telling the truth, does it make any sense for him to go after Cam? Would the mafia have been able to make an extra kill? Would it make sense for an admin to kill Cam? Why did Scott die? Tim claims to have locked him up. There's no apparent reason for him to lie; it seems to me to be too elaborate and too strangely timed to have been part of a mafia plan. Possible explanations: - Tim is lying/mistaken (not likely in my opinion) - padz has a strong killing role (not sure; would the mafia have that? Or is he an admin?) - Someone else with a strong killing role killed Scott (admin? But that makes four assassination attempts, unless padz has no killing abilities) - Tim is a naive jailkeeper and failed to lock him (could he be naive without him knowing?) I had hoped to be able to convince myself about where all kills came from, but I failed. Too many possibilities. :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 04/01/11 at 14:29:30 49787D636C69190 wrote:
Ya just about everyone is maf in your opinion. I'm so scared of you calling me maf!! Go dodge some more questions. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 14:30:27 nothing happened??? i've been away for some hours and nobody responds at all, seems like this day is just done with. I'm a little sad we didn't kill matt v today, as i'm more sure he's mafia than padz, but our chances of hitting mafia now are very good as well. I always get nervous during the end of day that i'm wrong -_- |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 04/01/11 at 14:35:23 6B5A5F414E4B3B0 wrote:
Looks like you are just extremely frustrated that Tim caught you pretty clearly in a lie and you couldn't talk your way out of it with nonsense and more lies. Picking and choosing which questions you answered especially after your roleclaim looked awful too. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 15:04:10 answering makes me desperate maf. cherry picking makes me paranoid maf. ignoring makes me comedy maf. ok bud |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 15:05:08 town is truly fucked. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 15:05:25 013E27273C222D3B480 wrote:
The day is not over yet, but it indeed looks like it. I also have a strong maf lean on Matt V, but consider that padz might have a killing ability so he's more urgent. Also, even if padz is telling the truth and we spare him, he'll kill Tim tonight, and we both agree that's not a good thing either. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 15:11:24 then i wont kill tim. i just figure its the only way to clear my name. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 15:21:57 I'm confused. How would not killing clear your name? Second, I feel you're way to concerned about your own skin. If you're town, then yes, town is probably truly f***ed. But I'd consider it mostly your fault. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 15:27:35 no im saying that killing tim is the only way i can clear my name. way too concerned about my own skin? seriously?! if i live to tomorrow theres no way tim will be lynched over me. the problem with this is that theres really no reason to believe tim either since he has provided shit all (before anyone says it this doesnt make the claim more realistic. if anything its a testament to its artificiality) and started the implication that there is even a strongarm role in the game. you wanna talk about asshole mod? infinivig being too powerful for even a maf role? how fucking ridiculous would a strongarm role be?! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by TvL on 04/01/11 at 15:41:58 I'm too tired to sit this day out (1h20 left). I'm going to bed. My vote stays where it is. Good night all. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 15:53:10 god damnit. I'm gone for a track meet, and come back to a complete padz decision. Pretty much positive he'll flip town, and Darius/RVZ/potentially Tim and Tvl are maf. -_-. Zwieb, Darius has screamed scum to you this whole game, you can easily vote him and he'll flip maf, someone needs to change this decision. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 04/01/11 at 15:53:38 Votals [5] padz - (MVT), (Ivo), RVZ, Darius, Ivo, TvL, MVT [3] Darius - padz, (MVT), Web, (MVT), MattV [0] MattV - (Ivo) [0] RVZ - (Web) Day ends in 1 hour or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 15:54:34 I can't honestly see where people are getting Tim being more legit over padz, when he (with a FUCKING POWER ROLE) decided to just not protect people during the night, twice I believe. Sad how horrible that looks. How stupid is that? I can't see where the evidence is against padz since he always plays like this, however the decision looks sold. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 15:57:32 Vote Darius I was going to do that anyway Web, Darius is scum in my eyes. I don't think we have figured the night actions at all, and I can't see as clearly as the rest that padz is more likely to lie than Tim. Tim has barely posted and probably feels safe in his position...I seriously doubt we can be sure who of them is lying. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 15:59:56 Whose vote is missing btw? We can't get a tie of votes with 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:00:35 Before this whole episode ends and in my opinion another townie gets lynched, can anyone comment on this! RVZ looks like a really scum mafia. He's siding with Darius on most opinions, sheeping on to easy lynch cases and never really going out of his way to make his own posts, and on top of that today has posted ONCE. ONE TIME. Once padz flips town, the Darius/RVZ connection in my opinion is sealed. Padz is here trying to defend himself while Tim is watching the votes swing onto a town. Either way one of them needs to be lynched, Darius is much more dangerous. MVT, Ivo, can't one of you see the truth here and flip so this vote ends going the right way? EDIT - Zwieb tim is missing, and he'll obviously vote padz unless he feels compelled to vote Darius,. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 16:01:02 Oh well, Tim's vote is missing. Did he mention he would come back later? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:04:14 0B3A3F212E2B5B0 wrote:
This plan makes sense to me. It's obvious that either Darius or padz is maf. Thus we kill Darius and see the affiliations of pretty much every single player in the field, as opposed to killing padz who has literally accused everyone in this game of being maf. How does that not make logical sense to you? EDIT - you as in padz voters. Also noticed Tim and RVZ are rocking the bottom of the post charts. [smiley=flush.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 16:10:02 Padz, if you're not lynched, are you going to use your shot or not? And Web, I can't see whatever RVZ wants to reach with his style, 1 post on D5 is horrible. Really, he needs to post again D6. The only day he has contributed so far was D4. And why shouldn't Darius and padz be Maf Web? They could bus each other so one of them survives in the end. You're missing that point in your post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 04/01/11 at 16:11:01 Votals [5] padz - (MVT), (Ivo), RVZ, Darius, Ivo, TvL, MVT [4] Darius - padz, (MVT), Web, (MVT), MattV, Zwiebel [0] MattV - (Ivo) [0] RVZ - (Web) Day ends in 50 minutes or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:11:20 406D737F787F761A0 wrote:
erm yeah I kind of overlooked that, I was just really trying to rush these points out because hopefully someone reasonable can come on in the next 50 minutes and save the game for the town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 16:12:02 -padz flips town -all of town hurls their actions on darius -darius, being untouchable, is unaffected -scum has complete freedom n5. mvt will likely die -town rb's n4 block is lynched during mass claim -darius still alive, claim outs rb w/ noone to protect him, darius pulls the kill to win http://www.kenkyuu.net/image/akinator.png timur: i am thinking killing tim is the only way i can clear my name. if there is a better suggestion that i'm missing i will go with that. maybe rvz? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:16:08 0B3A3F212E2B5B0 wrote:
RVZ seems like a pretty obvious maf to me, but if Tim is lying, then I would kill him. Obviously if you're town, he's most likely mafia. Either way from this potential scenario a maf is dead, and if we lynch Darius there's a very good chance two are dead. His roleclaim + flavor seems solid, however his basis on it seems really weak to me with missed nights. That is unless we can actually get someone on. Ivo, you said that the lynch didn't sit well with you and hate feeling like you're wrong. You should make the final switch and save padz. MVT, I know you're kind of a "focus on one suspect" type guy, but you have huge suspicions on Darius, you should flip. If Tim comes back on and votes, gameover. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 16:17:29 it's funny because the better play would be to leave the vig alive since it'd be more likely that an extra town would be killed at night. why hasn't this happened? all the other targets are maf! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:20:43 Also, I feel like I'm kind of sticking myself out there on death row by posting this, but still it's necessary for the town to at least attempt to flip off padz. If both Tim and padz visited Scott (the day they claim they both did), that's pretty obvious Tim is lying about his role, since Scott would be still alive. It makes sense for padz to have vig'd Scott since he looked horrible, and since he played atrociously at the EOD, however why would Tim try to protect him after he pushed so heavily to try and flip the vote at the EOD. In no way would mafia try to kill him, and a town vig would because it made sense. Why would a jailer jail? That's the flawed reasoning. That's my sticking point on the padz/Tim conflict, and why I believe padz over Tim. Sure, the roleclaim is convincing but the actions aren't. Also, Ivo you're now on. Check this post especially and tell me why you can't see the reasoning in it. I'm going to go look at the Tim posts today to see if there's anything in them. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 16:20:54 Is there a way that padz and Tim's claim might both be legit? If not, try to kill Tim in the night if you survive. I think I'll try to think of a way that both claims could be true, but I doubt I'll find a scenario and then Tim would surely be Maf if you're Town padz. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 16:23:22 Web, your logic is not very good there. Locking Scott could have been an option, since locking includes the fact that the person who is jailed can't perform and action. Hence, if Tim thought that Scott is Mafia he could have locked him to prevent a night action from him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:27:44 1538262A2D2A234F0 wrote:
The problem is he also can't die, and there's where it becomes hazy. If Scott looked so horrible, why would Tim not leave him out there for the vig to kill? And also somehow the kill went through anyway, and this strongarm role seems kinda weird to me, but I guess I've never played it so can't comment. If padz and Tim both visited RVZ, wouldn't it make much more sense for padz's claim to be correct? We have 33 minutes before this game is over, I'm just trying to go on a last ditch attempt to save padz. If it doesn't work, then Darius and his scumbuds will win it. End of story. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 16:29:17 no, tim would have to jail me since a strongarm kill would overpower tims jail. jailing me would negate the kill from occurring. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 04/01/11 at 16:30:17 30 minutes |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 16:31:35 either tim or rvz are excellent nks. if i go for tim, he dies and it's settled. if i go for rvz, tim's best excuse is 'i got blocked again...' -> he's lynched and it's settled. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:32:22 Ivo, I see you lurking. What's your viewpoint on the situation. You called it "unsettling" if i recall on how you thought you could potentially be wrong. padz is making a huge effort to defend himself right now. Can't you try and consider the possibility of a Darius lynch? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Zwiebel on 04/01/11 at 16:34:02 I know Web. I'm not sure if padz is Town or Mafia, but I'm much more confident that Darius is Mafia, so I also want to save padz if you want to say it like that. But bringing up cases that don't make sense won't help us get any votes. If padz is really Town, he might also be able to clear himself in the night somehow as well. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/11 at 16:35:56 I am not lurking when i check the page with my phone it seems like i'm here forever when i'm not. The browser stays on this page The only person i would lynch over padz is matt v. I'm not going to lynch darius right now. I tried a lot but none wants to lynch the most obvious mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 16:37:37 ivo: why is darius town? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Honko on 04/01/11 at 16:45:03 Votals [5] padz - (MVT), (Ivo), RVZ, Darius, Ivo, TvL, MVT [4] Darius - padz, (MVT), Web, (MVT), MattV, Zwiebel [0] MattV - (Ivo) [0] RVZ - (Web) Day ends in 15 minutes or when a player reaches 6 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by thewebinator on 04/01/11 at 16:50:26 Sigh, town just cost the game. -_-. GG's, I'm done trying to convince people. MVT, you can change this, you've got 10 minutes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 16:56:42 start your engines |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by padz on 04/01/11 at 16:59:52 Aight. Since I'm going to lose I'd rather at least Sword keep his streak so I'll help out town a bit. Here is your scumteam: Darius / Tim / RVZ Darius is legit maf. When I flip nobody will believe a word I said and Darius will win. I admit I played complete shit, I didn't give a fuck d1 with all of Fank's shit and after Tyler died I basically gave up. Ivo got me. I'm Jonesy, Champion Ninja (Untargettable). How it works is that any and all night actions directed toward me are roleblocked. Since I am myself untargettable and Tim's "lock" failed there is no possible way my kill could be blocked unless Darius shares my role. This could easily be spun as trying to pin Darius but since I'm neither maf nor town what's the point? If I considered any players to be strong enough to worry about I would've killed them off instead. My kills really aren't strongarm. I'm convinced that Tim's softclaim was Darius's idea. I don't expect anyone to even consider this until Darius flips scum. There were no kills n4 because Darius and I tried to kill each other. Town BP did not work any miracles. I think the only other killing power in the game was Sword. Web and Timur look just fucking terrible now haha. If you must lynch them leave them until scum are dead. Or instead of wasting your actions on Darius (which is all part of the plan!) try hitting rest of scumteam. A message to town rb: do not block tonight, Darius is going to forego his kill to frame whoever you block. I personally blame Ivo for town's eventual loss. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Night 5 Post by Honko on 04/01/11 at 17:06:45 padz has been lynched. He was Jonesy, ADMIN Champion Ninja. It is now Night 5. Send your night actions to me by PM in the next 23 hours. If you do not wish to use your night action tonight, please PM me with that decision. If you do not have any night powers, no PM is necessary. Final Day 5 Votals [5] padz - (MVT), (Ivo), RVZ, Darius, Ivo, TvL, MVT [4] Darius - padz, (MVT), Web, (MVT), MattV, Zwiebel [0] MattV - (Ivo) [0] RVZ - (Web) The Living 1. Darius 2. Ivo 3. Matt V 4. MVT 5. RVZ 6. Tim 7. TvL 8. Web 9. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3) Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3) fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3) RDBU - TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla (LD4) padz - Jonesy, ADMIN Champion Ninja |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Honko on 04/02/11 at 16:39:12 Tim is dead. He was Nicholas H, TOWN American Hero. The Living 1. Darius 2. Ivo 3. MattV 4. MVT 5. RVZ 6. TvL 7. Web 8. Zwiebel The Dead J-Cop - padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (LD1) Cam - Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (KN1) Sportsguy - AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (KN1) SuprSilver - Scott, MAFIA Vanilla (LD2) KoopZ - KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla (KN2) Zarkov - DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla (KN2) NStride - MVT, TOWN Hater (LD3) Goose - Flo1, TOWN Vanilla (XD3) fank - finn, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Scott - karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla (KN3) Sword - Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (KN3) RDBU - TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla (LD4) padz - Jonesy, ADMIN Champion Ninja (LD5) Tim - Nicholas H, TOWN American Hero (KN5) With 8 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when a player reaches 5 votes. Go! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by MVT on 04/02/11 at 16:55:00 0031383800353831540 wrote:
Keep with the plan guys. As padz implied, Darius is also most likely untargettable that's why he probably made the kill through roleblock. Vote Darius |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/02/11 at 16:58:09 Actually still don't understand how there were no kill made night 3 if Darius can't be blocked. Unless one of his buds made the kill that night. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/02/11 at 17:05:20 54656C6C54616C65000 wrote:
I know what happend that night. As long town keeps me alive and this other 'player' we'll win this game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/02/11 at 17:58:29 Is Darius that other player? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/11 at 18:07:19 glad to be alive, didn't expect that. Seriously mvt, you think padz made sense in that last post, but he didn't. He's just screwing us over. Darius/rvz/tim? those were the i'm fuckin sure they are town people. But tim died and he spoke the truth. I still belive darius and rvz are town. Next up! Matt v lynch! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/11 at 18:22:07 i think we're down to mafia versus town by the way. Admin had two fantastic roles, and town vigs are dead. Serious shit has started now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/02/11 at 18:25:28 I like my plan personally. However if someone really fucks up or slips...i'll take em out with a swift vote. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/02/11 at 18:28:53 Sigh, Darius has to be mafia, he just has to. I don't get why people aren't seeing the RVZ connection, however regardless Darius is obvscum. Ivo, I know you want to push heavily on MattV, however it's almost a must lynch situation, and Darius is the better lynch. Vote: Darius This vote is going to stay on barring huge scumslips. I wouldn't recommend anyone else voting yet since it's so easy to get an EOD. Sorry about yesterday, but I was almost sure that padz was town. Darius/RVZ have to be maf in my opinion, the third is unclear. Anyone think there's four maf left? If that's the case this lynch means the game, but I'm guessing there are only three. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/02/11 at 18:30:52 0E293922242D2D3F4C0 wrote:
I know what happend that night. As long town keeps me alive and this other 'player' we'll win this game.[/quote] 1 - Is that a claim? 2 - Technically "we'll" could be the mafia, and I'm guessing that Darius is the other player. However, since you're just dangling information in front of our face and you've told everyone you know something, why not spit it out? Withholding information is scummy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/11 at 18:35:29 uvnote darius please. there's not 4 mafia left, ther's probably 2 mafia left, if there were 4, we had lost already. 4 mafia+2 serial killer is enough in a game like this. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/02/11 at 18:37:52 why? No idiot players are left that will randomly BW for no reason, and even if he's town (which I strongly doubt), if there are 2 maf left as you claim, if they both vote on Darius to try and win the game, it's only 4 votes. We need 5. Nobody else vote Darius, simple as that. at least, until we have enough discussion time for the rest of the game and other events. Then it's fine to finish off the scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/11 at 18:56:05 Meh, not much until now, i've got to sleep, i'll check everything tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/02/11 at 19:28:55 003F26263D232C3A490 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/03/11 at 00:09:24 Matt V is the lynch today as far as I'm concerned. I don't see how that reaction to Padz's claim could have come from town. That said, if RVZ is claiming that he can clear another player, we need to know that before we make any decisions today. Web: seriously, why am I the best lynch? You spent most of yesterday ignoring the fact that Padz was quite clearly lying and blathering on about how I was still a better lynch. Now Padz has flipped Admin and your attitude has not changed one bit. You've not responded in any way to the new information we have. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/03/11 at 01:58:45 Let me comment on padz' confession first. There are two ways to interpret it: If it's genuine, let me say that I find this a very bad action. He was admin and not supposed to be pro-town. But now he has helped town which is not in the spirit of the game. Of course I'm happy with the information, but this is not fair play. OR His post is a very clever attempt to disguise the existence of a third admin. He basically says he and Tyler were the only two, and wraps it up in a confession to make it look genuine. If there is a third admin, this post was a brilliant move. As far as I've learned from this game, a lone SK is not uncommon, and a SK with a henchman is quite unique. But could it be a third faction with a regular (mafia-style) killing ability? If so, we can pretty much exclude Darius and RVZ as possible admins, because of padz' accusations. Me as well, otherwise I wouldn't have brought this up. :P Now we have a very good idea about the night actions. padz probably killed Cam, KoopZ (together with Shock) and Scott. Either padz had a strong killing ability (which might make sense for Jonesy), or Tim was a naive jailkeeper and failed to lock him. We can also now be fairly sure that padz indeed tried to kill Darius and Tim tried to lock Darius up, but both failed. This requires a good explanation, preferably from Darius. We also need to think why the mafia killed Tim; we got some nice information from that. Probably the mafia are trying to send us into the wrong direction. Or it could be a double bluff. Thinking time. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 02:59:11 Quote:
I find this very unlikely with just one death tonight. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 03:14:31 I'll go ahead and make the first vote on matt v I don't really think we should go too quickly today, all time to talk. Vote Matt v I'm fairly sure matt is scum, but the big question is, who's his scumbuddy? I think there's still 2 maf left in this game, or at least that would make sense balance wise. I've got all day today so maybe i'll do a reread through the topic to look for more information. Edited for typo |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/03/11 at 05:12:48 Fine, I agree I'm being rash with my decisions. I'm gone all day today pretty much because of Prom, so I can only be on sporadically. That being said, I'm going to unvote until I can come back tomorrow (and I guess later tonight) and look for evidence that can actually contribute. I agree I haven't really been helpful and narrow-minded, so when I come back I'll help out the town. MattV is a large suspect for me for obvious reasons (not really contributing), so other than that I still suspect Darius however I'm going to look for evidence that can further the case tomorrow. Also, potential claim today? (as in D6) Might be helpful and get out information, or it just could confuse the heck out of the town. We have a lot of time on our hands. Don't make a stupid wagon and waste it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/03/11 at 05:26:56 160403080F00150E135055610 wrote:
You mean a stupid wagon waste you did Day3? You're avoiding discussions all game Web. Everytime someone disagrees with you, you change your opinion immidiately. Right now you changed your personal opinion again while you said you absolutely not gonna unvote. And saying your away for a while because you don't wanna end up in a discussion. For me you're the most scummish of all at this point. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/03/11 at 05:42:00 1B3C2C373138382A590 wrote:
You mean a stupid wagon waste you did Day3? You're avoiding discussions all game Web. Everytime someone disagrees with you, you change your opinion immidiately. Right now you changed your personal opinion again while you said you absolutely not gonna unvote. And saying your away for a while because you don't wanna end up in a discussion. For me you're the most scummish of all at this point.[/quote] Day4 it was my bad |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/03/11 at 06:52:36 Wait you mean the day where you pushed everyone to vote RDBU instead of Darius who turned up town? ::). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/03/11 at 07:01:18 TvL: I can think of two possibilities; either Honko is using a system whereby all roleblocks resolve at the same time, in which case Tim's jailkeep still worked on me despite him being roleblocked, or there is another protective/roleblocking role in the game and they either blocked Padz or protected me. RVZ's softclaim indicates that it might be the latter. Web: Matt V's scummiest action is his change in attitude over Padz yesterday. If you think 'not really contributing' is the main reason to suspect him then you're clearly not reading the game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/03/11 at 07:01:41 566970706B757A6C1F0 wrote:
But would that 3rd admin be able to not kill? If so, it would make perfect sense to keep quiet and let town focus entirely on the mafia. I'm not saying I believe my theory to be correct, more the opposite in fact, but I will at least keep it in the back of my mind. 073B3C3E32200C251F530 wrote:
Well RVZ, where have you been? I need to think again about Matt V. I thought he was padz' maf buddy, but that has been proved wrong. We also need to solve the mystery of the peaceful night 4. At first I thought that padz may have been lying about trying to kill Darius and being roleblocked, making Tim the only blocked person, which a roleblocker might have done. Now though I see no reason to doubt that both padz and Tim were blocked when targeting Darius. How come? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/03/11 at 07:45:39 584A4D46414E5B405D1E1B2F0 wrote:
Yeah that one. I wanted a RDBU lynch but not that fast. There's no need to end a day before deadline. And you still not understand that it didn't matter he flipped town? [smiley=chairshot.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/03/11 at 07:52:06 What's your karter name Web? and perhaps your role? ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Honko on 04/03/11 at 07:59:29 Votals [1] MattV - Ivo [0] Darius - (MVT), (Web) Day ends in 33 hours or when a player reaches 5 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/03/11 at 08:05:47 TvL: I've never been in a game where there is a requirement for mafia to kill every night. I've seen compulsive serial killers that have to submit a kill, and if they don't their kill is randomised, but mafia have the option to no kill if they want. If there was a third admin, it would fit in with Padz's final post for them to forego their kill, making town think that the Admin team had been eliminated. That said, it seems as though Padz's role was incredibly powerful and Sportsguy also had a PR, so it's entirely possible that Padz was just telling the truth about his team. As for the block situation, I don't think Padz was actually roleblocked. I think his kill was blocked, but I don't think he was personally roleblocked. He didn't seem to get the difference, which makes me think he wasn't actually told he was blocked, he just assumed he was because I didn't die. There's also the point that I don't think Honko would have put two completely untargettable roles in the same game, but then we get into WIFOM outguessing the mod, so I understand if people don't want to base any thinking on that. Of course, if anybody else has successfully targeted me in the game, we can bring all this speculation to an end, which brings me to: RVZ: are you actually going to explain your softclaim? If you're town and you know your information can help, all you've done so far is guarantee you'll get killed. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/03/11 at 09:10:19 684F5F44424B4B592A0 wrote:
Ironically enough, I'm Darius ;D. I'm not roleclaiming yet though, unless a massclaim is decided on, which I feel would be a bad move. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/03/11 at 09:11:59 3321262D2A25302B367570440 wrote:
I know what happend that night. As long town keeps me alive and this other 'player' we'll win this game.[/quote] 1 - Is that a claim? 2 - Technically "we'll" could be the mafia, and I'm guessing that Darius is the other player. However, since you're just dangling information in front of our face and you've told everyone you know something, why not spit it out? Withholding information is scummy.[/quote] Darius just said this, and I did earlier. Why would you say that you know what happened that night and not tell us? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/03/11 at 09:14:07 0B2C3C272128283A490 wrote:
Yeah that one. I wanted a RDBU lynch but not that fast. There's no need to end a day before deadline. And you still not understand that it didn't matter he flipped town? [smiley=chairshot.gif][/quote] Then why did you say "What are you waiting for?", prompting me to vote? Also another question, any reason you had ONE POST all of D5, towards the beginning stating padz is scum and then leaving without saying anything else? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/03/11 at 09:53:32 RVZ: see Darius & Web. The sooner you explain yourself, the longer we can discuss the implications as town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/03/11 at 09:54:34 I don't have a specific role. I just was allowed to talk outside the thread with another player so I know what happend that night. And no, I'm town, not mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/03/11 at 09:55:45 7B696E65626D78637E3D380C0 wrote:
Yeah that one. I wanted a RDBU lynch but not that fast. There's no need to end a day before deadline. And you still not understand that it didn't matter he flipped town? [smiley=chairshot.gif][/quote] Then why did you say "What are you waiting for?", prompting me to vote? Also another question, any reason you had ONE POST all of D5, towards the beginning stating padz is scum and then leaving without saying anything else?[/quote] I was simply not online... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/03/11 at 09:58:19 795E4E55535A5A483B0 wrote:
Ok. I'm now officially confused. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 10:06:06 You are not making this any better rob |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/03/11 at 10:15:58 I'm Matt V, TOWN Canadian (Mason). I know there was a mass roleblock that night so I hope this explains something. I never should've softclaimed in the first place I guess, stupid move :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/03/11 at 10:33:58 Well wouldn't now be a great time to explain who this player you are talking to is and what you have both discussed? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 10:58:23 No clue why you had to say that Rob, i didn't want to claim yet. I am Goose, town canadian troll, i'm mason with rvz, he has the role of matt v, town canadian. Because i (goose) always make trolling topics that make everyone stop what they're doing to tell me i'm wrong, i have the ability to stop all night actions in the game for one night. I decided to push the rdbu lynch reall hard during day 4 as i figured it would not let us waste several townies if we were incorrect, as i could stop all night actions in that night, and rdbu had to die at some point anyway. I'm really sure that he would have been here otherwise, possibly screwing us over already yesterday. I'm fine with the lynch, and of course also with the day 5 lynch, i think it helped us out after all. I was really sure that padz had a killing role when he said he was blocked, just like i believed tim was indeed nicolas harvey when he said he was blocked. Combined with the research on sword and shocks roles, i was fairly sure that padz must have been maf. I waited to see if more people would drop hints that they were blocked, as i'm sure i must have also blocked another mafia, and possibly also some townies, i didn't find much more, although i'm still fairly sure i blocked matt v too with his "how did 3 killing roles get blocked?" sentence. With that said, i think me or rob is going to get killed tonight, but whatever, after tonight the game has almost come to an end. I think we can still win this, although i had prefered to somehow survive today with rob and claim tomorrow. Would have been sick with 6 players left and 2 masons. Although chances of either of us being killed tonight already are pretty big. I did not discuss much with rob outside the topic by the way, we both played our own game, except that i did not accuse him at all during this game, i would have done for sure if I didn't know he's town as some of his posts are terrible :P Now everyone, go and read day 5 over again with the new info you just got. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/03/11 at 11:16:53 http://i.imgur.com/b7sTG.gif%22%20alt=%22%22%20title=%22Hosted%20by%20imgur.com Ok, so now what do you propose we do ivo and rvz? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by thewebinator on 04/03/11 at 11:39:26 172831312A343B2D5E0 wrote:
Now I'm completely thrown off. Does your mason role allow you to recruit, or was it that the both of you knew you were teammates from the beginning and were the only two masons for the whole game? In past games I've played masons can recruit townies, and if a mason recruits a maf all masons die, although that might not be what Honko planned. Could you explain the role a little better just so I (and others) know all the specifications? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/03/11 at 11:39:37 Well, I don't think I've ever seen a global roleblock role before, but it does explain a whole lot. Either Ivo and RVZ are mafia together, or they're both cleared. I have a town read on Ivo and a pretty null read on RVZ, so I'm inclined to believe the claim. One thing I do want to know: Ivo: why did you wait until N4 to use it? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 11:55:55 MVT: just continue where we left, i still want to lynch matt v Web: i can not recruit, i've been mason with rvz since the beginning, hence the role names, matt v and goose. There's not much more to explain, i could block everyone in the game. Nothing happened night 4, no investagations, no kills, no protection, and i think no other roleblocking, everyone with a night action should have gotten a pm with "you got roleblocked" or something like that. Darius: I wanted to wait for a while to see what would happen at night, i was inactive day 1, so not scared to die night 1, i blundered day 2, and poor town players are usually left alive by maf, so again not scared to die, day 3 i was not here much again, and day 4 i had the plan i already explained. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 11:57:44 And yes, i am aware my role is extremely strong, i could barely believe it when honko sent me my role |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/03/11 at 12:06:35 Yeah, I definitely believe the claim. Explains everything very nicely from N4. I also can see the symmetry with Padz's role to give town a universal roleblock, so the fact that it's strong just compliments Padz's incredibly strong role. No scum ability would block their own kills either, so I think Ivo and RVZ are definitely town. Vote: Matt V Definitely the way to go today. As I called him out on it yesterday, the contradiction between these two posts is what seals it for me: 714954555279764A475F43547963504354260 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/03/11 at 12:07:19 Wow. A lot of RVZ's scumpoints have just vanished into thin air, because I've got a big town lean on Ivo. If they were both mafia, I see no reason why Ivo would jump in and protect RVZ, because there were no real suspicions against Ivo. The possibility of a massive block had occurred to me, but for some reason I never stated it. I suppose I didn't want to give Darius an easy explanation in case he is scum. Now that his survival of night 4 is explained, my town lean on him is restored. I now think that the mafia killed Tim hoping that we'd go after Darius, since Tim's identity implied that he was telling the truth about being blocked, which strengthened the theory of Darius being untouchable. I'll take on Ivo's advice and have another look at day 5. In the meantime, since the number of claims is rising, I'll contribute and reveal my name: I'm Ivootjes! ;D I won't reveal my role until there is concensus that the time is right. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/03/11 at 12:17:06 Damn, too late to fix a spelling error. It's consensus, not concensus. Please forgive me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 12:22:12 Quote:
This looks like framing Darius into a bad daylight indeed, because mvt thought that there was a connection, and it led into several people believing why either darius or tim had to be maf. But instead of it making Darius look bad, it makes darius look good now. And i claimed because i did not want rvz to screw up the game obviously. If he we were mafia then i would just have led him fuck up [smiley=lolk.gif] I did not even look at it that way. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/03/11 at 12:22:50 6B797E75727D68736E2D281C0 wrote:
Now I'm completely thrown off. Does your mason role allow you to recruit, or was it that the both of you knew you were teammates from the beginning and were the only two masons for the whole game? In past games I've played masons can recruit townies, and if a mason recruits a maf all masons die, although that might not be what Honko planned. Could you explain the role a little better just so I (and others) know all the specifications?[/quote] God man, just shut up. You have been the worst player in the game since last day. You pushed super hard for us not to lynch padz practically begging for someone to change their vote and I had no intention of listening to you. You have no opinion. You have walls and walls of text but not thoughts of your own. It's incredible how poor the words to content ratio is in your posts. Quite obviously you have no clue what is going on all game. No one here really should listen to anything you have to say anymore after yesterday. Probably are maf steering us around trying to fake activeness. My bigger concern is Darius and MattV. I was inclined to go with Darius after everything that happened yesterday and after what padz said. However the ivo and rvz roleclaim just now has completely changed the dynamics of the game. Now Darius looks a bit less scummy and MattV looks worse. 2 confirmed townies pretty much have all but said MattV is scum. Hard to overlook that and such a big claim. I won't place the vote yet on MattV so we have more time to talk and think. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 13:29:18 There's no "hard proof" on matt v as there was on padz though padz was obviously lying, in no way his claims could be true. There's also one thing similar, both players did/do not respond to everything that is asked. And i don't like selective answering. It's scummy |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Zwiebel on 04/03/11 at 14:54:58 I guess the padz lynch was a good choice after all and we're much clearer about many things now. I pushed pretty hard against Darius because I really thought he was Mafia, but it seems I was too stubborn in my point of view. I'm not entirely off Darius, but I admit that I've maybe overrated some of his statements or just didn't pay much attention to the arguments that show that he might not be Mafia, I don't know. I was too sure that I'm right, I should probably be more critically with my own theories :-[ . Anyway, it seems that nearly everyone would lynch Matt V at the current situation, and I have to say I agree with that choice, if there's no slip or something else. I think the main problem is now to find the remaining Mafia after the lynch, if he's Mafia. If he's not, I don't even know if we have a chance to win anymore. We're 8 people now, with 1 mislynch and 1 night kill we're at 6. If there are 3 Mafia left, I guess we'd have lost then? If there are 2 Mafia left, we have one mislynch and could still win in that case. Is it likely that there are more than 2 Mafia left? Anyway, we should really look back at Matt's posts and look for more flaws in his logic and possible connections between him and other players, I'll reread all his posts tomorrow(I'm too tired now) and look if I can find something. Also if he wants to save himself he should speak up again. Not like we could need someone who doesn't post in the endgame. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/11 at 15:56:02 I think 2 mafia left is more likely than 3. A total of 6 out of 22 seems fine, in small games it's often 2 out of 9. I don't really have a plan what to do after today, but i'm sure we'll figure something out. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/03/11 at 16:39:45 Activity sucks here. Fuck it we need a miracle still. We can't mislynch. This is our best possible lynch I believe for the day after re-reading everything from Day 3 forward and analyzing all the claims and night actions... Vote MattV |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Honko on 04/03/11 at 16:42:55 Votals [3] MattV - Ivo, Darius, MVT [0] Darius - (MVT), (Web) Day ends in 24 hours or when a player reaches 5 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 00:08:58 Looks like Matt hasn't even been online to respond. Not helpful. I think we've still got a good shot at winning now with RVZ and Ivo's claims, and we need to hear RVZ's thoughts in particular because I'm pretty certain their claim is legit and they're both town. I've looked back at both of their last 50 posts and neither of them suspects the other; both are on each other's town lists, which is another point in favour of their claim. We also need Web and Matt to come back and declare where they stand on the claim and what their reads are now that we know this information. Both of them were pushing me hard based on incorrect assumptions about what happened N4, so I want to know if they still think I'm mafia now it's clear that everyone was roleblocked. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 00:17:28 We are simply waiting for matt to post. I think he's not going to post anymore today, maybe he's scared. Maybe he's just not here, maybe that he has given up? If he is townie, which i highly doubt, than he should try really hard now not to get lynched. Activity has not been a big problem in this game yet, we're at 80 pages already. I bet that when it starts getting exciting again people will be here again. That is maybe tonight, maybe at the end of day 7. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 01:26:11 Well, it says his on his profile that he hasn't come online, so I don't know that it's necessarily a point against him. If he doesn't say anything all day, then I guess it could be a play to not incriminate buddies by simply not saying anything. It seems like an unnecessary decision to take before the day started, though, so I'm inclined to say it's a null-tell and he simply hasn't been here. If it becomes apparent he's reading the thread but not posting then I think he's more likely to be scum making sure he doesn't give town any extra information. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/04/11 at 02:09:26 I'll place a virtual vote on Matt V (he's already at 3, so there's no need to put a real vote on him). I've been going through his last 50 posts with the assumption that he's mafia, and see what that tells me about others. 033B2627200B0438352D31260B11223126540 wrote:
He has expressed a town lean on six people here. RDBU, Tim and padz are now dead and not mafia. Ivo and RVZ are now trusted townies (at least for me). So what does that say about MVT? It would make sense to hide his maf buddy in a list with all non-mafia, but then again: 546C7170775C536F627A66715C46756671030 wrote:
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This is a bit over the top I think. This last post is even almost contradictory. I don't think this would be such a great idea if MVT is his maf buddy, but it's so weird otherwise that it might be a double bluff. If Matt V is mafia, Darius is in the clear for me, because Matt pushed him really hard: 6B534E4F48636C505D45594E63794A594E3C0 wrote:
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This would not make sense if Darius is his maf buddy. After all, Ivo and I were defending Darius, so he could simply have joined us. Matt V also attacked Zwiebel: 7C4459585F747B474A524E59746E5D4E592B0 wrote:
But this could easily have been a fake vote on his maf buddy. There's no solid reasoning here at all, and Zwiebel was not under any pressure, so it seemed highly unlikely that others would join him in voting Zwiebel. He mentioned him just two more times and then left him alone: 1C2439383F141B272A322E39140E3D2E394B0 wrote:
I don't know. It could also have been a random stab at a townie to simulate activity. If you look at the first quote, you'll find he also had a maf lean on me, but he didn't attack me at all. I have to be honest, this would've made me very suspicious, had it not concerned myself. Then there's Web. I've been somewhat suspicious of him ever since he went after Sword while he had died the night before. He went after Matt on day 4, and Matt's reacting was quite puzzling: 033B2627200B0438352D31260B11223126540 wrote:
And again here: 546C7170775C536F627A66715C46756671030 wrote:
As far as I've seen, he has only refused to talk to Web. And he says he thinks he's mafia, but I can't find why. As for Web, he attacked Matt on day 4 but preferred RDBU and Darius. On day 5 he went with Darius and didn't really mention Matt anymore. What puzzles me though is that on day 5, Web pushed Darius really hard and defended padz. If he's mafia, he would've known that both are not mafia, so why defend padz? It could have been fake of course, but I should be careful not to twist every bit of evidence to make it suit my theory. Lengthy analysis, no hard conclusions. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 03:17:15 TvL: what do you mean, if Web was mafia he would have known that Padz and I weren't? Padz was mafia. Do you mean mafia with a capital M? It's possible that he is Mafia who was hunting another Admin, but he thought it was me instead of Padz, or that he simply genuinely thought Padz was town (no idea why he would think this, but I haven't been able to make sense of his logic all game) and that defending him would make him look town too. He also seems pretty focused on being consistent in his read on me and has been calling me scum for the last 3 days, so I think the automatic result of that was to completely dismiss my case on Padz. I do think that MVT interaction pretty much rules him out as a potential Matt V buddy. That looks very much like scum trying to buddy up to town. I don't think Matt's as bold a player as to try to pull the double bluff there. As for why he suspected Web: 407865646348477B766E72654852617265170 wrote:
We know he's posted two townies and a maf. Do you think he was 2/2 or 3/1? 263433383F30253E236065510 wrote:
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Taunting the town to vote you? Doesn't seem very helpful imo. unvote Vote : SuprSilver This just pushed me over the edge. Until I see that list, it isn't changing. As confusing as fank is, you don't appear to care that the town might make a mistake and vote you off.[/quote] Votes Supr for putting him on the aforementioned list. Softbussing to blend in to town? edited to add one sentence. [/quote] The first point about Supr's list is pretty much pointless WIFOM. The second I do agree with, although he ignores the connected, and far more revealing point about Web initially passing Supr's post edit off as nowhere near as suspicious. The more I read it back, the more I think that Matt's attitude to Padz absolutely screams buddy who didn't want his partner lynched. Look at how certain he was that I was untargettable. That's not a normal role and I was mystified as to why Padz kept insisting that was the logical conclusion from the night actions until he claimed his role. If Matt was buddies with Padz, he would have known that Padz was untargettable and would have been privy to Padz's theory, explaining why he was also so insistent that I couldn't be targeted. He also did a complete about-turn on Padz's alignment; he kept implying that Padz was town and saying he was 'legit' and then suddenly came out with what amounts to 'of course I don't think he is a town-aligned killing role'. This is not how townies think. Put yourself in those shoes. Would you completely ignore the lynch of a player you thought was an anti-town killing role in favour of lynching someone based on them having a role you'd never seen before and hadn't been proven to have made any kills? I know I wouldn't. I'd lynch the player who I was certain was scum and deal with the second player on the next day. Matt didn't want to lynch Padz AT ALL. He was desperate to get rid of me. Why? The most logical explanation is because he shared Padz's viewpoint 100%. They were both desperate to get me lynched because they thought that I was mafia and they thought that not only would they be getting rid of a player they couldn't target, they would also get to look town. This is best explained by Matt already knowing what Padz's role was and battling with two conflicting ideas: 1. He thought it was essential to get me lynched in order for him to win the game. 2. He knew he would look terrible if Padz got lynched instead of me. I think that's why Matt suddenly turned around and claimed he thought Padz was mafia/admin all along. He realised that Padz could well get lynched but he didn't want to look like a buddy defending him, so he kept his vote parked on me while saying he thought Padz was definite scum. This also perfectly explains Padz's final post; he was trying to do whatever he could to mitigate Matt's super-scummy attitude towards his slot by making us think that he was the final Admin. He also never mentioned Matt in that post - he tried to direct us everywhere but Matt. In conclusion, I think that Matt's more likely to be Admin. I think there's probably also 1-2 Mafia left on a different team, most likely 2 unless the final Mafia role is ridiculously powerful because both Mafia roles have flipped Vanilla. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/04/11 at 04:01:47 785D4E55494F3C0 wrote:
I don't understand. padz was not mafia, he was admin. They are enemy factions, right? And since all mafia know each other, they knew padz wasn't. But I like your theory that Web was going for you because he thought you were Jones. If indeed Web is mafia, he would've known that you were not, but still you seemed to be untouchable, so that made it plausible to him that you were Jones. And by pushing an admin lynch, he would've got rid of an enemy and score townpoints in the process. I overlooked Matt's attack on Web. Then again, it's hardly a needle prick is it? It's similar to his stab at Zwiebel, with the difference that he voted for Zwiebel but didn't go after Web. I'm not sure about your theory of Matt being admin. I know I proposed the existence of a third admin myself, but I didn't particularly believe in it myself. Anyway, I guess we'll find out after today, because everything indicates a Matt lynch. One question that has just popped into my mind: whom did the mafia try to kill on night 4? If they also went after Darius, they would indeed be very inclined to believe that Darius was Jones. But I don't think he was an obvious target and it would be very coincidental. If they went for someone else, and found themselves blocked, would they have understood that there was a global block? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 04:36:11 I think we're getting mixed up between mafia and Mafia - I'm using the cases to distinguish between when I think someone could be scum of either faction and when they're more likely to be of the Mafia faction. Yes, Web would know that both me and Padz weren't Mafia if he is Mafia himself. My point is that just because Web would know that we both weren't Mafia, it doesn't mean he would try to get us both lynched. It was far more consistent for him to stick with pushing me as mafia than to go after Padz, and that's one of the reasons I've been suspecting him for a while: he doesn't respond to new information in the game like a townie, he just formulates a read and then sticks with it no matter what. I think Ivo and RVZ's claim has thrown him somewhat because if he accepts it, the majority of his case on me goes out the window and even he can't continue to try to paint me as scum. I think Padz probably did try to kill me N4, and he really did think that I had the same role as him. Think about it from the Admin perspective. He was already calling me scum on D4; if he was planning to claim vig, shooting me makes sense to back up his claim. So assume he does shoot me. Now, once D5 starts, there would be 3 key things that Padz knows: 1. He has an untargettable role as scum. 2. He is aware of the existence of a second faction. 3. He targeted me with his kill and got roleblocked. To Padz, who can't be targeted, what other conclusion could there be other than me being untargettable? His assumption was that nothing in the game could roleblock him, so if he was told he was blocked, he must have thought that I had his role, mirroring his own. Every post he made yesterday indicates that he really believed I had the same role as him. The same goes for Matt - he never thought I was mafia because I was jailkept by Tim and there were no kills, he thought I was mafia because he thought I was untargettable. This makes far more sense if he knew that Padz, who shouldn't be able to be targeted by any role, got roleblocked. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/04/11 at 05:00:18 Ok, the confusion was indeed in your upper-/lowercase convention. I'm not doubting that padz targeted you and thought you were Mafia godfather (note the capital M ;)); I'm trying to think what the Mafia would've made of night 4. If they also targeted you, they would've thought you were Jones and a lot makes sense. But that would be really coincidental. What would they have thought if they went for someone else? If they had come up with the global block theory, they would have had no reason to suspect that you were Jones. Otherwise, what would they have made of it? Depends also on what precisely they were told by Honko; were they blocked or roleblocked? Maybe they thought that the town doctor (if we have one) protected their victim or something? I'm not familiar with all these power roles, that's why I'm asking. (Edited to fix typo) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 05:10:08 Got my wires crossed there too. I don't think the global block would have occurred to anyone but Ivo and RVZ. I've been playing mafia on a dedicated site for over 2 years now and I've never been in a game with a role that can prevent all night actions at the same time. I think Ivo stated that everyone would have been told they were roleblocked, so I'm guessing the mafia simply thought they were roleblocked. Something has just occurred to me about the reactions to the lack of kills that I need to look up. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 05:37:46 Right, some quotes to think about in reaction to the lack of NKs and people thinking I was blocked. Web's first post of the day. Note the bolded: 1507000B0C03160D105356620 wrote:
MVT is looking for a roleblocker right off the bat: 4170797941747970150 wrote:
TvL's reaction, seems genuinely confused, certainly doesn't guess what has happened with the blocking: 477B7C7E72604C655F130 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 05:42:18 MVT says I'm obvious maf after seeing that Tim claimed the block on me: 1120292911242920450 wrote:
Web also votes me based on there being no NKs after Tim blocked me: 3C2E2922252A3F24397A7F4B0 wrote:
Now Web asks how kills could be prevented: 7163646F68677269743732060 wrote:
Padz responds to TvL, and I think this is where he starts to become certain that I have the same role as him: 0D3C3927282D5D0 wrote:
darius is maf because tim and i both claimed that he was unaffected by our actions. since our claims contradict each other the only way this would make sense is if one of us is a scummate who knows that's what his role does. this is why there is no use picking darius off in the night. he's untouchable. [/quote] Matt V speculates about the lack of kills and assumes that three people were blocked: 013924252209063A372F33240913203324560 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 5: Toad Norton THREE DEE Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 06:09:35 Now Matt V goes after me: 350D1011163D320E031B07103D27140710620 wrote:
Are you seriously asking this question? There are a bunch of ways that kills can be stopped. Rolefishing is the only reason to ask this question. Your question isn't much better, Padz. And as I apparently have to ask you again, how do you explain your reaction to Shock claiming the Koopz kill?[/quote] This is the post from Darius that irks me the most, and makes me very suspicious of him. There are others, I just havn't quoted them.. It was a legitimate question to me, and you turn it into a scummy act. He wasn't asking for anyone's role. Not that I'm convinced web is town, but still. There isn't alot of rolefishing to be done since we've got two claims already going this day. I still want to know why you're untargettable at night, as this is the only explanation that fits for me. I think you're scum. Vote: Darius[/quote] Conclusions: -Notice how Web starts the day by saying that there aren't any vanillas left, then calls me mafia because Tim claimed to jailkeep me, even though he was roleblocked. Then he starts acting confused and rolefishing for a doctor, as though he never originally considered that there was any other way to prevent a kill than a 'protector' (I assume he means Tim here). The really suspect part about this is that Web stated there were no vanillas, suggesting he had a power role, which means any ability he has should have also been roleblocked. Either he did get blocked, which means that him going after me for being blocked when he knew that Padz and Tim had also claimed they were also blocked is incredibly scummy, or he didn't, which means that his vanilla comment is a lie. -MVT is looking for a roleblocker from the start of the day. It's clear that his attitude is whoever got blocked must be mafia who tried to make a kill. His reaction to Tim's claim is consistent with this attitude, albeit ignoring the fact that Tim was also roleblocked and so couldn't have jailkept me. The one thing that makes me curious about MVT's reaction is that he assumed that a kill was roleblocked straight away. -TvL's speculation looks like town to me. He's still not quite sure about the implications of all the roles but he's showing willingness to logically think through the night actions and I get the sense that we are seeing a genuine thought process in the thread. -Matt V's thought process is revealed to be contradictory again. He starts by assuming that 3 people were blocked - I actually thought this was a legitimate conclusion to draw before we figured out that Sword probably shot Fank. What condemns Matt is the fact that he then goes after me for the same 'untargettable' reason as Padz, which makes no sense if he was a townie who thought the killers were blocked. MVT: why did you jump straight to the conclusion there was a blocker? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 06:25:45 A general note: we now have about 10 hours to the end of the day (not sure if Honko is rounding up/down at all or just going precisely by timestamps). Myself, MVT, Ivo, TvL and Zwiebel all back a Matt V lynch. I'm guessing that Web also does as he has indicated suspicion of Matt as his second lynch preference after me, and I honestly have no idea where RVZ stands on Matt V, so it would be good if both of them could confirm their stance on that one. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 06:41:53 Surprise surprise, Darius shakes off yet another lynch just because I'm not amazing at this game. Get ready for a long-ass post. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 06:46:33 Votals [3] MattV - Ivo, Darius, MVT [0] Darius - (MVT), (Web) Day ends in 10.25 hours (exactly 6pm Pacific) or when a player reaches 5 votes. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 06:49:38 526A7776715A5569647C60775A40736077050 wrote:
Finally. While you're at it, can you list the players in the game in order from scummiest to towniest? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 07:13:10 Some good analysing going on in here while i was gone. Matt better comes up with something good, his post is promising at least. Big question is, after it became obvious padz had a killing role, did Mafia want to keep padz around? He seemed so confused, and misdirected, that trying to save him just for the sake of getting several townies dead would have been a good try. In their minds, padz could have been the real vig as well, and it's never a bad idea to keep a bad vig around. I really think padz believed that Darius was the godfather. And having padz around, who would shoot tim, and the mafia going for someone else, would have been mass destruction for town. That's why i think, even while mafia might have thought that padz was the real vig, they still wanted to keep him around. It was the easy path to victory. Besides, if Mafia thought there was a possibility that padz would turn up town, they would even look good. That's basicly why i think we should still not trust Zwiebel, and especialy Web too much. I still don't really believe that there's another admin around, or the admins are very powerful compared to the Mafia. Although i like your theory on web darius, i do not think this could be true, unless there's like 2 other Mafia left, and 1 admin. But that would obviously make town kinda weak. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 07:26:57 714954555279764A475F43547963504354260 wrote:
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Oh my god Darius someone changed their mind they must be maf! ::) What changed my mind was this post: 5564617F7075050 wrote:
ask honko yourself in postgame, my kills are not strongarm[/quote] He missed the main accusing point of that post. 6A554C4C57494650230 wrote:
Exactly, you're accusing me from your gut instinct, and because every game I'm always suspected maf because of the way I post, even though the one time I was maf it was completely obvious and I got lynched. I havn't been on to answer anything Ivo, and most of the content of people's posts is accusations rather than questions. By the end of this post you'll understand why I've been convinced you're town, and not prodded you in the slightest. 5A7F6C776B6D1E0 wrote:
1. Darius 2. Ivo 4. MVT 5. RVZ 6. TvL 7. Web 8. Zwiebel From scummiest to least scummy(including myself is pointless): Scum: Darius Zwiebel Neutral: Web/TvL (although TvL is a slight town lean, he contributes a heavy amount) Town: MVT RVZ/Ivo Ok, since Ivo has confirmed my suspicions, I'm gonna roleclaim now. I have the role of TvL Town Maths Genius I can't quote directly, but basically because I'm so good at math, using complicated equations I can determine people's roles. My role is a one-shot scan, in which I select three people at one night, and am given 3 roles, and not told who belongs to which role. I used my night action N3, and the people I scanned were Sword, Darius, and Ivo. I originally was going to choose MVT over Ivo, but even then I had a town read from MVT, and I had read somewhere in a sign-up/actual game that Ivo was a formidable player. I chose the three of them as the players I thought made the best posts and were most likely to live to near the end of game. The three roles I was given are: TOWN Sexiest Man Alive TOWN Canadian Troll MAFIA Project Delayer We all know Sword's role, and I was already 90 percent sure that Ivo was the town and Darius was the maf. Now with the mason roleclaim I can be sure. Darius is 100% mafia. Regardless of how shit I've played I beseech you all to not let this scum live another day. He's already shaken off two lynches. Vote: Darius He's been high on everyone's scumlist for days now, and yet remains alive. This is the only thing I'm sure of this game, he must be lynched today or we're fucking sunk. edited to fix accidental smiley |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 08:00:37 You have a triple cop role and you waited until N3 to use it and D6 to tell us the results? Give me a break. Everyone knows it's me or Matt now. Make your choice accordingly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/04/11 at 08:05:43 I want to hear Web's opinion first. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 08:08:14 Why use it in the first couple days when everything is a crapshoot? I waited a few days and then chose three excellent players. People who, as I said, are most likely to survive a long time, make good contributions, and also people who are difficult to get reads on. TvL would also have been a good choice, but I think my choice worked out well. Also, I wasn't going to give myself unwarranted attention when I saw you were a primary suspect twice. You've played very well though and have stayed alive, but enough of this shit. Everyone, I am guaranteeing you that Darius is mafia. It's down to the nitty-gritty, and we need to lynch him now, please! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 08:10:25 We have like 9 hours left. I haven't been able to get online until now. We need to turn this around or the mafia is going to win. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 08:21:53 7F4344464A58745D672B0 wrote:
Seconded. I've got a few things I'd like to point out but I'd like to get some reactions first. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 08:28:20 We need to make the right choice today, I'm begging you guys. Darius is MAFIA Project Delayer, and we must lynch him! Ivo, I know you'll fight against me the most, but you have to see the truth in what I say! Darius is the best lynch today, I'm guaranteeing you all that he is scum! Ivo and RVZ really must be the masons, since RVZ wouldn't lie to go along with Ivo's role. I also believe MVT to be town. We need to be rid of Darius, and work from there. I'm begging you all to not abandon your sanity. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 08:38:05 Tell me, Matt, do you think I can't be targeted at night? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 08:49:13 I knew you were going to claim something like that, could be true, could not be true. I'm still all in favor of lynching you and darius tomorrow if you turn up as tvl indeed. I've never trusted darius 100% as he's really hard to read/barely makes mistakes, but he's given a town vibe at least. And has contributed a lot more than you did. One thing is sure, you should have tried harder to help town matt. I'm 90% sure that mislynching today won't lose us the game, so probably darius and matt v are both going out. I'd like to hear other people too by the way, what do you guys prefer today? Damn, i would say it's a flip now :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 08:52:39 5B637E7F78535C606D75697E53497A697E0C0 wrote:
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Oh my god Darius someone changed their mind they must be maf! ::) What changed my mind was this post: 5564617F7075050 wrote:
ask honko yourself in postgame, my kills are not strongarm[/quote] He missed the main accusing point of that post. 6A554C4C57494650230 wrote:
Exactly, you're accusing me from your gut instinct, and because every game I'm always suspected maf because of the way I post, even though the one time I was maf it was completely obvious and I got lynched. I havn't been on to answer anything Ivo, and most of the content of people's posts is accusations rather than questions. By the end of this post you'll understand why I've been convinced you're town, and not prodded you in the slightest. 5A7F6C776B6D1E0 wrote:
1. Darius 2. Ivo 4. MVT 5. RVZ 6. TvL 7. Web 8. Zwiebel From scummiest to least scummy(including myself is pointless): Scum: Darius Zwiebel Neutral: Web/TvL (although TvL is a slight town lean, he contributes a heavy amount) Town: MVT RVZ/Ivo Ok, since Ivo has confirmed my suspicions, I'm gonna roleclaim now. I have the role of TvL Town Maths Genius I can't quote directly, but basically because I'm so good at math, using complicated equations I can determine people's roles. My role is a one-shot scan, in which I select three people at one night, and am given 3 roles, and not told who belongs to which role. I used my night action N3, and the people I scanned were Sword, Darius, and Ivo. I originally was going to choose MVT over Ivo, but even then I had a town read from MVT, and I had read somewhere in a sign-up/actual game that Ivo was a formidable player. I chose the three of them as the players I thought made the best posts and were most likely to live to near the end of game. The three roles I was given are: TOWN Sexiest Man Alive TOWN Canadian Troll MAFIA Project Delayer We all know Sword's role, and I was already 90 percent sure that Ivo was the town and Darius was the maf. Now with the mason roleclaim I can be sure. Darius is 100% mafia. Regardless of how shit I've played I beseech you all to not let this scum live another day. He's already shaken off two lynches. Vote: Darius He's been high on everyone's scumlist for days now, and yet remains alive. This is the only thing I'm sure of this game, he must be lynched today or we're fucking sunk. edited to fix accidental smiley[/quote] Alright I've had absolutely enough of the shananagans. I don't believe there is another roleblocker left in this game so this should be the time to claim. I am RVZ town gambler. Every night I can roleblock someone. However the action only has a 50% chance of going through (coin flip from Honko) N1 - blocked supersilver (failed) N2 - blocked fank (failed) N3 - blocked Scott (succeeded) N4 - blocked MattV (succeeded) N5 - blocked Tim (failed) MattV is maf. I waited to claim for two reasons. #1 - I thought padz was obv 100% scum yesterday. #2 - I tried to push another roleblocker to claim. If they claimed they were most likely lying and scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 08:58:09 Excellent, now we know MVT is tomorrow's lynch too. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:01:52 Tvl ur talking a lot but are you willing to actually take a stand on a player? Walls of text without direction can be interpreted as scummy you know. I encourage you to take a stand. I truly believe MattV is scum and my role confirms it. No one died the night my block succeeded on him. This doesn't clear Darius in any way shape or form. However I have a guarenteed maf in MattV. I had to pick the right spot to claim. I let him give his false claim and counteracted it. The clincher is that he says he did it N3. I wouldn't be surprised if that is a maf role to see the roles of 3 characters they choose. No coincidence Sword turns up dead the next day with his role hinting at power. Tvl might be a scumbud of MattV going into D7. I probably will be killed next at night. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 09:02:08 Shit, too much new info, but i don't really get you mvt, how does your roleblocking ability tell anything in this case? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 09:04:12 i mean, i roleblocked everything that night :-/ |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:04:22 4065766D7177040 wrote:
I don't understand that at all. Not that I would live through the night anyway. Nobody died Night 4. I blocked MattV night 4. Coincidence? I think not. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 09:06:05 7F405959425C5345360 wrote:
This. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:06:14 1F203939223C3325560 wrote:
Ya but I thought MattV half ass claimed to be untargettable at night earlier in the game. So if he is untargettable why would your action stop him? Actually I'm confused by the fact that you did that action the same night as me. So it double roleblocked him? I don't get it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:07:11 Fuck maybe I just wasted my claim. Who cares the role wasn't any good anyway. It failed way too often to be of any use. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:08:24 Wait a minute...but why did my roleblock ability succeed that night!? Ivo does your role only stop killing actions at night, or all actions? Ivo might be maf. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 09:16:32 Would absolutely love to hear what Matt makes of MVT's claim. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/04/11 at 09:21:27 1E2F26261E2B262F4A0 wrote:
I was all set to lynch Matt V (I placed a virtual vote on him a while back). My main suspect for the role of his maf buddy is Web. That's why I don't want to go into Matt's claim in detail yet until Web has taken a stand. If I am right about him and Matt V, I'm interested to see if he tries to protect his maf buddy or drops him. If a lot of people debunk Matt's claim now, he'd just jump on the bandwagon. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:23:19 I'm completely lost as to how MVT's claim incriminates me. I made my one-shot action night 3, and he claims he blocked me N4. I'm pretty much a vanilla townie now since my role has been used up. MVT, Ivo can't be maf unless Darius is Town Canadian Troll. Seriously guys, I'm giving you a for sure mafia lynch, I'm trying to contribute, please listen to me! Darius is Mafia Project Delayer. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:23:33 I'm not going to be online much more today. I really just wanted to get my claim into the open. Make what you want of it and how it meshes with Ivo's and Matt's claimed actions. I truly believe MattV is maf. I have had good instincts this game. I nailed padz and I get the same feeling from MattV. Trust me here. Matt is scum. I will try to roleblock Darius tonight too if that makes you guys feel better about the lynch. I'm off for a while now... I will return before EOD though. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:25:58 Ivo, lynching Darius is the way to go today over me, because I'm guaranteeing his role. We're the top two choices today, so why would you lynch me when nobody besides me knows my role? We should lynch Darius because his role is mafia. I've seen it. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 09:26:38 Matt, still waiting for you to answer my question. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:28:08 MVT you have to see reasoning. You also suspect Darius of being mafia. Why not lynch him instead? If he turns up Mafia Project Dekayer (which he will), then you won't have to waste a roleblock, and you can target another person you suspect (even me if it makes you feel better, but I have no power left to use). TvL, I know you're waiting on more reactions, but do you have any preliminary thoughts? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 09:31:43 Wow a lot is happening and Darius isn't looking good at all. Matt V's claim might be legit. Makes a lot of sense cuz up 2 this moment Darius didn't really claimed/softclaimed anything. And MVT I dob't understand how MattV is obv maf in ur opinion. Can you explain me that? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:32:16 0124372C3036450 wrote:
Missed this because I started reading from Ivo's next post. I think you are either untargettable or somehow delay night actions against you as your role name suggests. 6B5A53536B5E535A3F0 wrote:
I don't understand that at all. Not that I would live through the night anyway. Nobody died Night 4. I blocked MattV night 4. Coincidence? I think not.[/quote] MVT I have no killing powers so I don't get what you're going on about there. I wonder why Darius is suddenly suspecting MVT though, I believe MVT to be town (as do most of us probably). |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:33:03 112934353219162A273F23341903302334460 wrote:
One last thing. Your role might have been more believable if 2/3 people's roles are either dead or claimed. Now you create a maf role and apply it to Darius, it just doesn't seem appropriate to me. Waiting so long to claim too with such incredibly valuable info...doesn't seem right. Yesterday (and D4) you had this info and your role was useless you should have instantly claimed. But the heat was not applied to you and you sat back in the shadows. That makes me believe you are making this all up to benefit yourself. Maf need this one or two last kills. That's why you are claiming such a role that "guarentees" Darius to be maf. Then if he flips town maf have either won the game or just about won it. If I had the identity of 3 players going into Day 4 and my role was now reduced to basically a vanilla as you say yours is I would have claimed IMMEDIATELY. You didn't because you don't have this role. Your role is probably Project Delayer and you just applied it to Darius. I'm sorry but you are scum. Ivo can you answer me for sure if your role blocks kills only or all night actions? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 09:33:49 And I think Darius waited for others to claim first so he can come up with a reasonable lied role |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:34:11 Rob I'm so glad you're on and posting, because town needs you to help us turn this day around. I'll be on for another 45 minutes. If anyone has a question about my role or anything, I'll answer it. But everyone please take note of this: I'm promising you all that Darius has the role of Mafia Project Delayer |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:35:07 4067776C6A636371020 wrote:
Says he found out the identity of 3 players on Night 3. Says now his role is a useless vanilla. Witheld this extremely valuable information from town until Day 6 when finally there is pressure on him. I don't buy it. If his claim was real there is no way he would wait so many days before telling us this very important info. It's just a made up claim. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 09:35:10 132B3637301B1428253D21361B01322136440 wrote:
Missed this because I started reading from Ivo's next post. I think you are either untargettable or somehow delay night actions against you as your role name suggests. 6B5A53536B5E535A3F0 wrote:
I don't understand that at all. Not that I would live through the night anyway. Nobody died Night 4. I blocked MattV night 4. Coincidence? I think not.[/quote] MVT I have no killing powers so I don't get what you're going on about there. I wonder why Darius is suddenly suspecting MVT though, I believe MVT to be town (as do most of us probably). [/quote] So if I'm untargettable, how come you claim to have a result on me? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:36:41 MVT why should I have claimed immediately? I wasn't 100% sure of who had the Project Delayer role, so why come out with it so soon? It would've caused the entire day to be centred around my claim, and figuring out whether Ivo or Darius was maf. I claimed now because the mason claim by Ivo and RVZ cinches it. That's how I look at it, sorry if you'd have done it different, but that does not make me scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:37:53 My role targets multiple people, it'd prob bypass your role rather than my whole action getting blocked against two other people just because of you. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:39:57 I really dunno though. All I know is that you're Mafia Project Delayer, I have no idea what your role does, all I know is you need to be lynched. For anyone who missed it, here is my reads on everyone. I know Darius is scum. I believe Zwiebel to be scum. I find Web and TvL neutral, although maybe a tinge of maf on Web and a tinge of town lean on TvL. I believe MVT, RVZ, and Ivo to be town. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:43:33 I'm going to go shower and get ready because I have to leave after. I'll be back within half an hour, so you all have time to post, and I'll address anything anyone questions me about. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 09:46:35 One more quick thing to post. We need to lynch Darius, as I've given you all his role. His lynch will provide town with more information than mine, because anybody who is resistant to the lynch when he turns up maf is probably his buddy. I've played a crappy inactive game, and maf can easily bandwagon on me to blend in. I'm begging you all again to either switch your vote to Darius, he is Mafia. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Zwiebel on 04/04/11 at 09:48:05 Matt, you were very suspicious on D4 of me, why didn't you scan me then? I don't really know if I should believe your claim. Sword and Ivo weren't really Mafia-like looking, why then not chose me over them? You stated quiet some times that you think I'm your biggest Mafia lean. Also, MVT's claim seems kind of useless to me, don't think we can take anything out of it, no idea why he claimed anyway. His N4 Action also seems strange, how come he succeeded when all actions were blocked? Maybe "succeeded" meant just that the coin flip was successfull but the block itself didn't work and he just wasn't informed about that? MVT has Town points from me for what he's done so far, but we should look at him tomorrow in any case. Doubt he's Mafia though, but you can never be sure. Today it's between Matt and Darius imo, since it's clear now that one of them is Mafia. I'd really like you to answer why you didn't scan me Matt. You're still confident I'm scum and you were back then, so why didn't you scan me? It just doesn't make sense that you chose Sword or Ivo over me at that point. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/04/11 at 09:48:40 09312C2D2A010E323F273B2C011B283B2C5E0 wrote:
I'm hoping that it's true, as I'd be flattered to have a genius role named after me. What I do find unlikely is that the equations (which you mentioned in your post) do not give information about who is who. That doesn't sound like me! ;D All joking aside, I still want to wait for Web. Zwiebel too, by the way. I won't wait for them forever though, I'll give my thoughts in a couple of hours or so. EDIT: Ah, here's Zwiebel now |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:49:45 Matt I think you are the project delayer to be dead honest. No way a townie would take a risk of living from Night 3 until Day 6 with such valuable info. Plus you probably STILL wouldn't have revealed if you didn't have so many votes and pressure on you. Scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:51:02 4A67797572757C100 wrote:
That is why I have asked ivo if his role blocks only KILLS or ALL ACTIONS. That would clear a lot of things up in my mind. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 09:55:52 5B76686463646D010 wrote:
He couldn't make the claim of scanning you because he has no idea what your role is and has no role to make up. Sword died, revealing his role name. Ivo claimed revealing his role name. So he had to use those two roles in his claim lol. Then he probably used his own role name or one of his maf buddies and applied it to Darius. That is the only thing that makes sense. He also had no intention or desire to make this claim. A true townie would have revealed the info immediately not 2 day / night cycles later and under an extreme amount of pressure. He seemed super reluctant to claim. No townie would do that. The claim isn't real. Good point about how MattV said you were maf several times earlier in the game (I'm sure it's quotable too I just gotta go now). But now he claims not to have scanned you. ::) All evidence points to him being scum. Hell the way he dealed with padz was scum. Someone should also look what he did with NStride way back. I really have to leave and don't have time to check it out now but I'll look later before EOD. MattV has just gotta be scum. Sorry but it's really the only appropriate way of looking at things at the moment and the only scenario I can think of that makes PERFECT SENSE! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 10:01:29 TvL: do you think it's really worth waiting for Web now? You've already told him what you're looking for, and although I've been trying to hold off from pointing out all the reasons why Matt's claim doesn't make sense, other people certainly haven't been. RVZ: I have dropped a hint about my role, and there's a good reason I haven't fullclaimed. If it's necessary to prove I'm town then I will, but it's in the best interests of town that I don't reveal my role, as it could be particularly useful if we lynch Matt. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Zwiebel on 04/04/11 at 10:04:37 TvL, I don't think it will make any difference if you post now or later, since we have discussed now anyway and there are plenty things Web could jump on for a bandwagon, don't think your post will change the way he'll respond in any way. We're in front of a really important lynch and the more information we have, the better, so I would really like to hear your thoughts not later but now. You've had some really good thoughts until now so your points could improve the discussion, if you just state them 1 hours before EOD there might not be enough time left to discuss your points properly. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 10:16:55 0B3A33330B3E333A5F0 wrote:
That is why I have asked ivo if his role blocks only KILLS or ALL ACTIONS. That would clear a lot of things up in my mind.[/quote] i believe it to be all actions. But as you have a roleblocking role yourself, it might be possible that both of our roles act at the same time, but the result is the same, everyone is blocked Unvote |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by TvL on 04/04/11 at 10:25:33 Fine. If it's the wish of multiple people that I speak up, I will. I just hate that it gives Web an easy way out. Basically the choice is between Matt V and Darius at this point. In one sense there's not much difference between either lynch: if the lynchee turns up town, the other one is scum. So there's not much difference in terms of information that we'll gain. Except maybe that there is the possibility that Matt might turn up admin. If it comes down to whom I distrust most, then it's easily Matt. I've expressed my suspicions about him before. Darius I've always felt pretty good about, until the business with night 4 came up. Now that that's fully cleared up, I see no big reasons to suspect him. I had reasons to suspect Matt, and his claim could easily have been made up, so I'm sticking with him. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 10:28:33 So, here's all claims: Hard claims Ivo - Goose, town canadian troll, global roleblock for one night and mason RVZ - Matt v, town canadian, mason MVT - RVZ, town gambler, roleblocker with 50% chance of being correct Matt V - Tvl, possible to search 3 players for one night, claims he knows darius is maf thanks to that. Soft claims Tvl - Ivootjes Darius - his role could be particulary useful if we lynch matt? No claims Web Zwiebel |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 10:42:07 I still don't see why Darius would have pushed the suprsilver lynch so badly if he is Mafia, was so easy to switch up there and just go with Goose, but he sticked to the plan. I really need to reread day 2, been so long since that day. It could all have been part of a big overall Mafia plan to just dump one or two players in favor of getting a free pass into the endgame, but as Mafia, i would never play this way and find it hard to believe. MVT, you better protect me or rvz this night, don't care whether it only has a 50% chance of succes. MAN, i just realize i should have claimed Town Mason Troll or something like that, if matt would have posted and claimed that name too, we would have got him, if he posted my correct role (with the canadian part) that would have 100% cleared him. FUUUUCK i'm feeling so dumb right now. Esp because i've been in more games where you can find exact player roles. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 10:55:55 4E6B78637F790A0 wrote:
Well, if we lynch matt v now and he comes up maf, you're 90% cleared anyway, so it would seem obvious for Mafia to kill you then, especially after telling this information. so what's the point in not telling us? I don't understand the "particulary useful if we lynch matt" neither, are you linked to matt in some way? Why would it be more useful if we lynch matt instead of someone else? I don't really like softclaiming like this at this point in the game, how does that help us out today? We're again at a crucial lynch. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 11:01:59 Right, I have to go out, so here are my main points to prove Matt is lying: 1. Look at his reaction the morning after his result. First he makes a post apologising for not being around much. Then we get: 0E362B2A2D06093538203C2B061C2F3C2B590 wrote:
Doesn't look a post from someone who knows either me or Ivo is mafia. Then we get: 350D1011163D320E031B07103D27140710620 wrote:
So he thinks I'm a maf lean and Ivo is a town lean, but he's still voting Zwiebel when he 'knows' one of us is mafia? His fourth post is the one that nails home he didn't have that information: 774F5253547F704C415945527F65564552200 wrote:
I just can't comprehend a town player having that attitude with the knowledge that either Ivo or I was mafia. 2. The fact that he claimed to get these results on N3 and then waited until D6 to tell us. This is both too long to wait to perform the action, given that he could have easily been lynched or NKed before N3, and too long to wait to claim the results, given that his claimed role is one-shot and so useless after he claimed. 3. The whole 'untargettable' situation. Either I can't be targeted by actions or I can. He targeted me with an action, so if I was untargettable or my role delayed actions, that would have happened; if Matt had the role he says he has then he would have known neither of these was true. He was sure I couldn't be targeted yesterday when Padz was pushing that idea, now he says 'I really dunno'? Why would he agree with that conclusion yesterday if he had already successfully targeted me and had a result of 'Project Delayer'? Nothing about that indicates that I would be untargettable, yet he was super-confident to join Padz in pushing the idea and didn't once indicate doubts with that idea, or the fact that Tim couldn't have blocked me if I was untargettable. Now he conveniently suggests because his action targets 3 people, his role would have bypassed it. 4. We've already had 'town female intuition' and a suspected JOAT flip, which likely would have had an investigative role. Matt's now claiming a third investigative role with effectively 3 cops in 1. Seems way overpowered to me. I should be able to come back and make at least one more post, but the evidence is there in case I don't. Ivo: my rolename is Pobre, and my role could help to stop mafia killing me. I will fullclaim if it's necessary but I'd rather keep the mafia in the dark as to how. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 11:07:23 Quote:
This makes a lot of sense, basicly go by the same reasoning as yesterday |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 11:18:57 Darius post made a lot of sense. I'm to gullible when it comes to believe claims I guess. Also a little unexperienced on that point. Matt V's claim is leaking legitism on several parts now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 11:32:37 112E37372C323D2B580 wrote:
That is why I have asked ivo if his role blocks only KILLS or ALL ACTIONS. That would clear a lot of things up in my mind.[/quote] i believe it to be all actions. But as you have a roleblocking role yourself, it might be possible that both of our roles act at the same time, but the result is the same, everyone is blocked Unvote[/quote] Ok that makes sense as the likely scenario. It's too bad that we suffered from the coincidence of you using your power and my power succeeding on the same night. Still doesn't take anything away from the fact I strongly believe MattV to be scum. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 11:41:57 053A23233826293F4C0 wrote:
Sorry but I'm a roleblocker not a protector. I'll do my best. If we go ahead with the MattV lynch, who should I block tonight? Should I still go with Darius? I'll try to block whoever you guys want me to. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 11:51:50 To be honest I'd be down to attempt block Darius or Web tonight. Web's quietness is strange. I don't think he is going to speak. Even if he does he is just going to post more mindless nonsense. Comes off like scum to me. Especially how he tried to save padz and now he disappears. I think it's time to oust MattV and his bogus claim though. First and foremost, that time is now. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 11:54:58 If matt turns up town than off course you should try to block darius o_0 That would mean darius is a power role Mafia and you should try to block him from whatever he is able to do. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 11:57:31 1D223B3B203E3127540 wrote:
Well duh. I'm really really expecting MattV to turn up maf though. Then who should I block? Web? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 12:06:11 yeah, web seems fine by me. I don't think he's town at least, although the way he tried to convince us not to vote for padz did look like me being a clueless townie. I've had that feeling so often like he had yesterday. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 12:19:43 I don't really see what the holdup is. We seem to have reached a consensus but some guys like tvl are playing extraordinarily conservative and refusing to vote at all. Is it a no lynch that you all are looking for to give the maf a bigger advantage? Anyone truly believing padz anymore at this point is quite frankly delusional. He wasn't right about a single player or lean he had the entire game. Makes no sense that he would be right about any of his other suspicions or his last post which was already proved incorrect after Tim died. Padz loves tinkering with and misdirecting players when he is scum. MattV is the obv choice. He might even be admin since padz refused to ever mention him in any of his posts and MattV made a substantial effort to distance himself from padz yesterday. Also would like to draw attention to this. 67565F5F67525F56330 wrote:
What about timur? 0435302E2124540 wrote:
You aren't really helping us with these lists padz, even though they are simply just the people who are voting Goose. Why you are still playing with the 1 liners at Day 3, I don't know. Pick it up kid![/quote] Padz names every player here that was alive. A bit later he had a post saying I'm maf. The only guy he never ever mentioned the entire game was MattV. I couldn't find a single mention of Matt in any of padz posts (edit - found one super brief mention from D5 but didn't say anything except rehash that ivo blocked mattv) Might be meaningless. Might be something...a clue. Also of note. On day 3, the day we mislynched NStride. Matt V did not make a single post the entire day. I can't help but think he was just watching in the shadows laughing as we fucked up royally. All that evidence is just in addition to how scummy his claim was today for reasons I have already explained in great details. This is all just the cherry on top after rereading some old stuff. If anyone is still confused why Matt is the best choice for today, please do ask. Otherwise I see no reason we should wait much longer, especially for web who looks scummy. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 12:27:30 My friend's leaving thing has been cancelled so I should be able to stay on for an hour or two. If MVT really is a blocker, Web my top pick for mafia so yeah, he's a good block. It's definitely not RVZ or Ivo and I have a pretty strong town read on TvL. I would put it at Web, Zwiebel, MVT in order of likeliness to be mafia. Still a bit doubtful of MVT's ability working when Ivo blocked everyone, but all roleblocks resolving at the same time is a common way of dealing with night action resolution. Am going to think on that one a bit more. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 12:28:23 Thinking about it again, darius just gave us some info on his role, and both web and zwiebel pushed really hard for a Darius lynch. Maybe because they thought Darius somehow saved himself, possibly even more than once? That's why they thought Darius had to be one of the remaining ADMIN faction! Maybe that both the Mafia and Padz together! targeted Darius and he did not die. which led into padz thinking Darius had to be untargetable Mafia either web or zwiebel thinking Darius had to be untargetable Admin And this resulted in both padz and web/zwiebel pushing REALLY hard for the Darius lynch because they both assumed it would make them look good, while it would kill of an opposing faction at the same time! :o it finally makes sense why some people would think he's untargetable and the rumour of Darius being untouchable has been going around for days now. I need to reread some stuff more carefully from the past days. Vote Matt v he's still my number one lynch, if he turns out town we'll kill Darius 100% sure tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 12:30:33 Ok, here we go Vote: Matt V |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia Day 6: The Book of Girl Post by Zwiebel on 04/04/11 at 12:33:34 Guess we're decided, I don't think any other lynch is going to be as sure a Mafia lynch as this one. Vote Matt V |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:00:02 That's game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 15:00:58 http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/huronbhrt/ColeEC.gif |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:04:05 MattV has been lynched. He was Shadow, ADMIN Statkeeper. Ivo has been killed in endgame. He was Goose, TOWN Canadian Troll. RVZ has been killed in endgame. He was Matt V, TOWN Canadian. TvL has been killed in endgame. He was Ivootjes, TOWN Mafia Host. Web has been killed in endgame. He was Darius, TOWN Late Newswriter. Darius, KoopZ, MVT, SuprSilver, and Zwiebel win! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:04:07 did we win? wtf? no more mafia left? o_0 RAPE but also quite easy lol Edit: Fail |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:05:13 wtf? WTF? what just happened? we lost? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:06:08 LOL 3 admins and 5 mafia! no wonder we lost freaking overpowered |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 04/04/11 at 15:06:08 Why Darius wasn't lynched that last day I'll never know. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by fank009 on 04/04/11 at 15:07:07 WHOA... WTH Maf won... GG WTF... WHAT THE FANK... Honko... i want two posts from you... one explaining the roles... the other explaining the actions. AND WTH with the Stat keeper??? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:07:42 (3 of the 7 players remaining were Mafia, and Town had no killing/protecting roles left. Mafia's nightkill would have been guaranteed to succeed, making the ratio 3:3 and giving them control of the lynch tomorrow. Thus, game over.) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:09:26 Seriously, we've made 3 mislynches and 3 correct lynches and lose the game, we did not have a chance after day 4 already, it was 5 to 5 back then imo mafia was overpowered here |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 15:10:28 0A21263A27480 wrote:
And don't forget the poison in effect. http://tikkiro.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/poison1.jpg http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/75669_1666855513362_1296519797_1803245_4590469_n.jpg |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 04/04/11 at 15:11:11 I would maybe have guessed one less mafia with so many ADMIN, perhaps... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:11:57 5A60477B726752547C7C77477B7A7D74130 wrote:
I didn't think mafia would be so strong this game |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Brett on 04/04/11 at 15:14:03 Can't believe MVT and Zwiebel were mafia, very well played by you two. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:19:49 THE ADMINS The admins only had 3 players, which would normally be terribly underpowered against 14 townies and 5 mafia, but they had some of the best roles in the game. Unfortunately they were pretty unlucky in night actions, with Sportsguy being killed N1 and many of their kills overlapping with other players' kills. Admin board: http://admin-is-badmen.proboards.com/ @padz You are Jonesy, ADMIN Champion Ninja (Untargettable). You literally own the board, so any action against you is utterly futile. If anyone targets you with a night action, they will automatically be roleblocked. @Matt V You are shadow, ADMIN Statkeeper (Detective). As a master of both statistics and programming, you have all the tools you need to analyze people's online behavior. Each night you can inspect a player to discover what their role may be. You will get three possible results (statistics aren't perfect, after all); one will be the correct role, while the other two will be other roles from the game. @Sportsguy You are AlexPenev, ADMIN Handicapper (Roleblocker / Paralyzer). You have perfected the art of handicapping annoying board members, a skill that should prove useful in this game. Each night you can handicap a player, which will both roleblock their night action and prevent them from casting a vote the next day. THE MAFIA They had a more traditional group. 5 mafia vs 14 townies is pretty standard numbers, plus they had another faction to worry about. Godfather, Roleblocker, and an extra-kill role gives them the powers they need to get the job done, but not much else. I'm sure there will be plenty of balance complaints, but the fact is this team outplayed everyone both during the day and during the night, so they clearly deserved the win. Mafia board: http://dotheylikemodkips.proboards.com/ @Zwiebel You are Zarkov, MAFIA Secret Mod (Godfather). To the naked eye you appear to be a regular poster, but somehow you seem to have the ability to lock Tom's topics and delete Flo's posts anyway. You've decided to throw in with the other Mods in this battle, although the other posters don't need to know that. If anyone uses a cop-scan on you at night, you will appear innocent. @MVT You are Etch, MAFIA Cancer Giver (Poisoner). Your skill at spreading cancer to your patients is legendary; it's only natural that you'd put it to use in this game. At night, you can visit a player and give them cancer, causing them to die the following night. You can use this power twice during the game, but not on consecutive nights. @Darius You are Gaff, MAFIA Project Delayer (Roleblocker). You have a unique talent for delaying projects with promises of getting to it "in the next two weeks." Each night you can visit a player and stall their work, roleblocking their action for that night. @Suprsilver You are Scott, MAFIA Vanilla. @KoopZ You are KoopZ, MAFIA Vanilla. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 15:22:02 ugh [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:24:12 THE TOWN Town had a bunch of weird powers. Some of them I chose for a specific reason (Web and Ivo were the only roles that could get around padz, for example), some for flavor, and some just for fun. Town's power roles generally failed to do anything useful, and they got talked into some terrible plans by the Mafia. It might seem strange to lose after lynching scum the last two days, but that's what you get for digging such a big hole on days 1-3. [smiley=beer.gif] @Sword You are Sword, TOWN Sexiest Man Alive (Jack-of-all-Trades). As winner of Honk Magazine's Man Of The Year award 17 years in a row, you are clearly one of most awesome and talented people on the board. Each night you can choose one of four abilities to use: you can scan, save, roleblock, or kill a player. Because you are so humble, you have limited yourself to only using one ability per night and each ability only once per game. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @Cam You are Spril, TOWN Female Intuition (Cop). You have boobs and a vagina, you freak. You also have the ability to accurately detect if someone isn't what they seem. Each night you can scan a player to learn if they are Innocent (Town) or Guilty (Anti-Town). You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @Web You are Darius, TOWN Late Newswriter (Delayed Watcher). You've been faithfully keeping the MK64 karters entertained with news for several years, but unfortunately your updates are almost always at least a month behind schedule. Each night you can watch a player to see who else performs night actions targetting them. However, you will not receive the results until the beginning of following night. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @TvL You are Ivootjes, TOWN Mafia Host (Mayor). As the original host of kart mafia, you know how this business works. You know people are going to be irrational and make stupid choices, and it's your job to prevent that from happening. One time during the game, you can cancel a lynch by PMing me before the day ends. The player who would have been lynched will survive, and there will be No Lynch that day. You cannot prevent your own lynch. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @Tim You are Nicholas H, TOWN American Hero (Jailkeeper). America, fuck yeah. As a representative of the biggest, coolest, most powerful country in the whole world, your job is to protect everyone else, even if they don't ask for it. Each night you can lock up a player, protecting them from being killed but also roleblocking them from taking any action that night. You cannot lock up yourself. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @NStride You are MVT, TOWN Hater (Miller Vigilante Bomb). You're a magnet for controversy and flame wars. Your aggressive nature often makes people think poorly of you, but you're very capable of beating down anyone who crosses you. Two times during the game, you can kill a player at night. If you are lynched, the last person to vote for you will also die. You show up as Guilty in scans. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @Ivo You are Goose, TOWN Canadian Troll (Mason / Mass Roleblocker). You are good friends with RVZ, who has the role of Matt V, TOWN Canadian. Together you live in the Far North where moose are common and the best basketball team is the Raptors. You can freely talk with RVZ about the game outside the topic, because you're both Canadian and that's how I roll. You're also an expert troll capable of making topics that force everyone to drop what they're doing and tell you how you're wrong. Once during the game, you can decide to roleblock EVERYONE IN THE GAME for one night, preventing any night actions from occurring that night. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @RVZ You are Matt V, TOWN Canadian (Mason). You are good friends with Ivo, who has the role of Goose, TOWN Canadian Troll. Together you live in the Far North where humans are uncommon and the worst basketball team is the Raptors. You can freely talk with Ivo about the game outside the topic, because you're both Canadian and that's how I roll. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @J-Cop You are padz, TOWN Who The Fuck Is Padz? (Forgettable). Who the fuck are you? Nobody knows. You're a forgettable needledick. So forgettable that nobody can even remember you long enough to perform any night actions on you. If anyone tries to target you with night actions, that action will fail, and they will receive a message saying that they "forgot" to perform it. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @Zarkov You are DarkRoy, TOWN Vanilla. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @Goose You are Flo1, TOWN Vanilla. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @Scott You are karterfreak, TOWN Vanilla. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @RDBU You are TheFrigz, TOWN Vanilla. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. @fank You are finn, TOWN Vanilla. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:25:09 Kinda sucks for town we lost the game day 3 already, from there on we didn't stand a chance. Look at it this way, after day 3 there were 6 townies left, and 5 mafia/admin, normally this is known as lynch or lose, now we could hope for mafia and admin killing each other at night, what didn't happen. In other words, after just 2 mislynches in the first 3 days or chances went down to something like 5% to still win the game. mafia, or should i say darius on his own, did a good job finding the remaining admins, he could have been town as well. Makes it even harder for town to find the mafia if there's a good player finding the opposing faction. GG mafia |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:28:53 @TvL You are Ivootjes, TOWN Mafia Host (Mayor). As the original host of kart mafia, you know how this business works. You know people are going to be irrational and make stupid choices, and it's your job to prevent that from happening. One time during the game, you can cancel a lynch by PMing me before the day ends. The player who would have been lynched will survive, and there will be No Lynch that day. You cannot prevent your own lynch. You win when all threats to TOWN are dead. HAHAHA I KNEW that was my role when tvl claimed i knew it! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Goose on 04/04/11 at 15:30:01 trolled I'll read this later as I'm sure it is interesting. Thanks a lot to Honko for moderating. It takes a lot of work and is often underappreciated [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:32:16 4A756C6C77696670030 wrote:
I knew someone would say that. You can't look at it as Town vs. Everyone, you have to look at the matchup between each faction, because the two scum teams are fighting each other just as much as they're fighting town (or at least they should be, if they want to win). 14 Town vs 5 Mafia is pretty even especially with Town's more powerful roles. 14 Town vs 3 Admins is definitely fine, with the only problem being Padz's role, which can be (and was) checked by both you and Web. 5 Mafia vs 3 Admin was also even I think, although it's hard to tell really with Sportsguy dying so quickly. If you look at it as 14 town vs 8 scum, yeah it sounds unbalanced, but if the ratios had been 3:16:3 like you suggested at one point, Town would have been ridiculously overpowered. Mafia outplayed everyone, they deserved to win, and they won. That's how it should work. 09383131093C31385D0 wrote:
The poison was actually cancelled because Tim protected Ivo last night, but it ended up being irrelevant. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 15:32:23 I fucked up, sorry town :( When Darius was about to get lynched I wanted everybody to go for RDBU. And when I thought MVT was maf, I should've went with my gut feeling. Allthough I wouldn't got many help from the other townies + I didn't had a good case on him either tbh ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Zwiebel on 04/04/11 at 15:34:51 [smiley=bath.gif] Yay Funny that everyone had me pinned as Town the first Days ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by fank009 on 04/04/11 at 15:35:04 Awards... MVP- Have to give this to MVT... Very convincing... Led the charge on a lot of lynches... Overall props to him. -Drama queen... I dont know... lots of noms for this... from myself to goose to SS to padz... I would have to give it to goose. around day 3... -The lets Help the Maf innocently award. -No comment. -The Lost in translation award. -Nuff Said. -Biggest mistake of the game... Day 3. Nuff Said. -Biggest Individual mistake of the game- having a look at the impact of it... i have to say this award goes to yours truly. Having a look back i was definetly a better Day 1 lynch of the 3 stooges in terms of the endgame... just me wanting to make it to a night phase. -Mr Lucky-Fank009... 3/4 day 1 :D (anyone have a state wide lottery they want some numbers on ask me k:P) -Best Town player- dont know... im tossed between scott, Ivo and Goose. -Best Admin player- (have to wait for roles before i make a decision -Best Mafia player- (ditto with above) Overall... Day 3 Screwed us. I want to ask Maf... WHY did koopz Not vote for goose??? i know there is the suspicion idea. but that would have changed the whole game... I would have lasted longer (i think) and you would have still had 5 peoples... I dunno... Also before i finish... Kudos to MVT for pushing a fank Vig NK :P Oh yeah Honko... You owe me $5 per award so i can ship them out... [smiley=dankk2.gif] Wait i forgot something... [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] This [smiley=uzi.gif] Is [smiley=uzi.gif] For [smiley=uzi.gif] Ninjaing [smiley=uzi.gif] me [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif]at [smiley=uzi.gif]the [smiley=uzi.gif]end [smiley=uzi.gif] of [smiley=uzi.gif] each [smiley=uzi.gif]Day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 15:35:29 yup, mafia outplayed us, that is true. I'm just sad we didn't stand a chance anymore and still had to fight for 3 days. Really feels useless now. Thanks for hosting honko, the game was fun, i'm just really sad with the result. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:36:12 ACTIONS ------- Night 1 ------- MattV scans Sword. Sportsguy handicaps SuprSilver. padz kills Cam. Darius blocks Goose. KoopZ kills Sportsguy. Cam scans MattV. Web watches fank. All town's other roles decide they're too cool to use their powers. ------- Night 2 ------- MattV scans Ivo. padz kills KoopZ. MVT poisons Scott. Darius blocks Tim. MVT kills Zarkov. Sword scans Goose. Web watches Goose. Tim jails Scott. (fails - blocked by Darius) NStride kills KoopZ. ------- Night 3 ------- MattV scans Darius. padz kills Scott. (fails - Scott is protected by Tim) Darius blocks padz. (fails - autoblocked by padz) Zwiebel kills Sword. Sword kills fank. Web watches Scott. Tim jails Scott. ------- Night 4 ------- MattV scans Zwiebel. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) padz kills Darius. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) MVT poisons Tim. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Darius blocks Tim. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) MVT kills padz. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Web watches MattV. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Tim jails Darius. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Ivo roleblocks everyone. ------- Night 5 ------- MattV scans TvL. (fails - blocked by Darius) MattV kills RVZ. (fails - blocked by Darius) MVT poisons Ivo. (fails - Ivo is protected by Tim) Darius blocks MattV. Zwiebel kills Tim. Web watches Darius. Tim jails Ivo. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Sωοrd on 04/04/11 at 15:36:26 655A43435846495F2C0 wrote:
Its funny, that everyone who died knew he was mafia. Noone bothered to read the suspicions I left behind at the start of Day 3 - that was towns major flaw this game, I think. Ivootjes played really badly, despite trying really hard. Made several mistakes during the game that messed town up severely. TvL played an excellent game as town, and a really first game in general. Was nice to see you as the only one who actually tried to pin together pieces of the puzzle, I was impressed how you managed to find out things about me even though I died :) MVT played amazingly. Guess I'm so used to him playing an excellent town game that I didn't even suspect him. Zwiebel I had hunches on at different points, but I generally dismissed it. I failed and vig killed fank - some of his posts about his hunches seemed to good to be just a coincidence. I was debating whether to kill Darius that night too, sicne I was half and half. When I woke up dead I knew from then on Darius was maf. Those are my thoughts for now ... Looking forward to the night actions. Thanks for hosting Honko, was great fun 8-) Gonna read the Admin and Mafia boards now ... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 15:37:42 1E213838233D3224570 wrote:
^ This I'm kinda stunned. I really thought we were doing good. Really good play by Mafia ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Honko on 04/04/11 at 15:40:54 The Shock lynch was really what decided the game. I'm not sure how Shock misinterpreted his role as needing one less vote to lynch, but TvL was actually thinking about mayor-ing that lynch IF Shock had been telling the truth about that. When Shock didn't die on the 8th vote, TvL decided to let the lynch go through. When you mislynch a Bomb and then your Jack kills a townie while scum finally gets two kills in on the same night, it kind of swings the momentum. ::) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Goose on 04/04/11 at 15:46:14 lol Ivo's GOOSE role was awesome. FTR, at the Day 3 lynch, I was *this* close to unvoting at the last second which would have exploded theweb instead of me. I didn't do it in the end because if web was a villager, then Day 4 would have just been more chaos like Day 3 was in terms of people arguing about me and trying to get me lynched. Turns out web was a villager. Oh well, some games just aren't mean to be won. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by NStride on 04/04/11 at 15:59:20 GGs. Mafia played a good game, imo they deserved the win, and yeah I fucked up badly. I thought "TOWN Hater" meant that I would die one vote less. Poor play on my part. I'll also in the future refrain from claiming such a role, even if its the truth.. [smiley=roll.gif] Thanks Honko, you did a really good job hosting. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Sωοrd on 04/04/11 at 16:00:07 1C3434283E695B0 wrote:
I tried my best to keep you alive but noone would listen to me >:( |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by padz on 04/04/11 at 16:04:01 me too. i was trying to bait mvt by suggesting goose simulynch and it worked but then shock totally incriminated himself and made it impossible to pull. ^tvl this is what i was trying to do. when i tried to explain it before i was too tired to even remember what happened that day. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by RVZ on 04/04/11 at 16:05:57 I learned a lot this game. I should stop being so gullible and have to make more efford analyze shit. Allthough sometimes my lack of English kills me when I try to fully understand what's sometimes been said. But my English improves a lot by playing this game so it's not only entertaining but also pretty usefull. I also learned who are very very good players. Hope to see ya'll next game. Honko, thanks for hosting [smiley=beer.gif] Sorry for beeing a bitch to you on IRC some days back :-* |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by thewebinator on 04/04/11 at 16:10:46 Yeah wow, MVT that was amazing gameplay. The only thing that made me sus is the fact that you weren't dead, and you normally are by now. It was just a gut feeling that I threw off since you looked so good. Darius was a huge gut feeling that I couldn't provide evidence for, so it was lost completely. Zwieb you also had an amazing game. I would have revealed my role but since it was late any leads I would have gotten were revealed by the time that the people were dead, so I was effectively useless. Regardless, that was a fun game and thanks a lot to Honko for hosting. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Camster on 04/04/11 at 16:11:34 Gg mafia, well played. Mvt and zweibel were my biggest surprises, but I stopped paying attention after like page 20. I think I'm done with mafia though. I'm sick of getting offed the first night so often, and even if not, no way I could keep up with amount of posting, especially in this game. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 16:15:13 0A6F6E6F5E0 wrote:
Its funny, that everyone who died knew he was mafia. Noone bothered to read the suspicions I left behind at the start of Day 3 - that was towns major flaw this game, I think. Ivootjes played really badly, despite trying really hard. Made several mistakes during the game that messed town up severely.[/quote] What the fuck, i wasn't here on the crucial day, day 3. That's where everyone fucked up. I already admitted into failing day 2, i was talked into it by goose, you were talked into it by me, seems like you just want to accuse ME of you making a bad move. You even tried to convince koopz that day, so you were just as bad, together with a lot of other townies that is. I think i played fine, my plan worked out good from day 4 to day 6, fact is, we had already lost the game by then. What is the big difference between tvl's play and my play? I think tvl trusted darius more blindly than i did, and on a lot of other stuff we just agreed on with each other. I'm not saying i played better than tvl, but you saying I played very bad and tvl played very good seems more of a personal thing, instead of looking at the actual gameplay. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 16:16:22 To be fair, i can give you easily 8 town players that played objectively worse than i did. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 04/04/11 at 16:22:50 Bah... If I wasn't asleep end of D3, I'd have switched from Goose. And even AFTER my lynch, your game didn't pick up too much. But D5/6 were good, nice deduction skills. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 04/04/11 at 16:29:48 So you wanted to get exploded instead? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Sωοrd on 04/04/11 at 16:31:12 734C55554E505F493A0 wrote:
Its funny, that everyone who died knew he was mafia. Noone bothered to read the suspicions I left behind at the start of Day 3 - that was towns major flaw this game, I think. Ivootjes played really badly, despite trying really hard. Made several mistakes during the game that messed town up severely.[/quote] What the fuck, i wasn't here on the crucial day, day 3. That's where everyone fucked up. I already admitted into failing day 2, i was talked into it by goose, you were talked into it by me, seems like you just want to accuse ME of you making a bad move. You even tried to convince koopz that day, so you were just as bad, together with a lot of other townies that is. I think i played fine, my plan worked out good from day 4 to day 6, fact is, we had already lost the game by then. What is the big difference between tvl's play and my play? I think tvl trusted darius more blindly than i did, and on a lot of other stuff we just agreed on with each other. I'm not saying i played better than tvl, but you saying I played very bad and tvl played very good seems more of a personal thing, instead of looking at the actual gameplay. [/quote] You just changed your views too often. When I died it was undeniably obvious that Darius was mafia. The flaw with town in most games is that they never check the past content of dead town players properly and miss major hints. You skimmed over mine for example and missed my soft claim of scanning Goose. I'm saying you played bad because you turned the town in the opposite direction at several points in the game. You almost saved Suprsilver, you defended Darius hard, you started the crusade on RDBU with an attitude of "he's useless so he might as well die" when that's the wrong attitude. Numbers are still important. Then of course the use of the power stopping all night actions occuring probably halted the momentum of the game. If town lynched Darius on the last day and killed Matt V the next day then town may have had a chance of winning. I don't know why people thought Matt V was mafia - he was obviously aligned with padz and nobody else. I'm not saying you played the worst game, I agree people played worse than you, I just expected alot more from you and you let your paranoia get ahold of you at several points to make you change decisions. I said TvL played excellent based on the fact it's his first game. You've played more than 5. I just got a good lean on him from the get go and he actually worked out ALOT of information on town that had deceased, which is actually pretty damn valuable. Either way, just read the mafia board. MVT, you are brilliant. It was class to read the whole thread. Guess my claim on Goose was what got me killed after all. I wonder how it would have ended if I actually went for Darius over fank :-/ Definitely my worst mistake in the game for sure. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by MVT on 04/04/11 at 16:38:19 GG to all. I had a lot of fun. Thanks for the compliments. I'm definitely taking a hiatus now from mafia after this one. That took quite a lot out of me. I might post some more in depth thoughts later...actually probably not. Everything can be read on the maf board. Basically shock was the turning point. I couldn't believe that he lied about half his role like that. I never thought he would actually flip bomb after he didn't die on the 7th vote. I was resigned that Goose would still be alive. Luckily he fucked up so bad and actually was town. I'm not exactly too proud of my last day play but I just really wanted the game to end and had to push super hard on MattV to achieve that. The roleclaim was a bit lame but no one really called me out on it surprisingly. Plus no one noticed how Day 4, 5 ,6 I voted Darius every day only to unvote later. No one really noticed somehow so I kept doing it. Rest of my opinions on players and game are imbedded in million posts on the maf board. Until next time... MVT http://photos2.fotosearch.com/bthumb/FSA/FSA467/x11651235.jpg |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 16:56:42 Quote:
I'm now going to reread that part of the day, as i can't find it in the night actions honko just posted. I think you're putting to much importance on your own death here by the way. Quote:
What momentum of the game, we had just lost 6 townies in a row? What should i have done, not use it at all? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 17:30:02 I'd like to congratulate the mafia Darius: you played a fantastic game, i had a gut feeling you were maf on every fucking single day, but it seems impossible to get together a solid accusation, and your communication skills within this game are the best out of anyone playing here. That's why you convinced me again and again. MVT: Your reasoning was so bad all the time, i was like "wtf is up with mvt, i don't think he ever played this poorly" but at the same time you gave that "i'm town and these dumb people around me better listen the fuck to me" It was a strange combination, but the town feeling always won for me. That last part is really who you are, that's why i thought you were town. You being mafia was the greatest shock for me. Zwiebel: What can I say? Not to surprised you were mafia, but i think you showed the proper way of staying under the radar. Have we ever talked about you during this game? Like even once for more than 2 posts in a row? Also congratz to SuprSilver and Koopz off course. Town got raped, admins got raped damn... |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Sωοrd on 04/04/11 at 17:30:25 I'm not trying to make it out that me dying cost the game. I'm just annoyed how town was lead blindly by the mafia and didn't bother to re-read past actions or anything. However, it's obvious that this cost town the game <Shock> my oh My thIs must be the Least conspicuous sentence of aLl timE. R The fact that he read his role incorrectly and ended up getting lynched and allowing mafia to get 4 kills in a day and night cycle ended it there and then. Also, Howes in a past game had the ability to votestuff, as you know, means that whoever votestuffed has control of the lynch and only their vote counts. Needless to say, he votestuffed padz, a mafia member. This in turn completely flipped the game around and allowed us to win. Me personally, probably wouldn't have ever used that role that you were given. The Admins and Mafia could have ended up killing each other, in that night they did. Your role prevented that from occuring; MattV scans Zwiebel. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) padz kills Darius. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) MVT poisons Tim. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Darius blocks Tim. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) MVT kills padz. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Web watches MattV. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Tim jails Darius. (fails - massblocked by Ivo) Ivo roleblocks everyone. Obviously night actions come down to complete luck, but this in itself I think hindered town. I'm not solely putting the blame on you, it was just painful to see you so confused in the thread and to allow Darius to manipulate you in such way. Mafia deserved the win though - I stand by that Edit: I noticed that Tim jailed Darius but Darius blocked Tim. I assume that both of these would have countered each other and nothing would have happened. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 04/04/11 at 17:35:14 Ivo probably would have been better off saving that role for a bit later in the game, but if he died it would be worthless, perhaps that factored into his decision. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by padz on 04/04/11 at 17:37:23 stealing my lines now are ya? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 17:41:18 Tim jails Darius and padz was untargetable So none would have died here. anyway, i really don't think i played well here sword, but i don't like you acting like it's all my fault in the first post after the game, when obviously all of town failed pretty bad here. You could also have started saying RVZ played terrible here, or web, or rdbu, or goose, or shock, or scott or etc. Some of these are very experienced as well. And you've got to agree 90% of towns chances were lost after day 3 right? Maybe if we played it all differently we would still have lost pretty bad. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Sωοrd on 04/04/11 at 17:51:20 Ah, totally forgot about padz's ability. I'm not saying it's all your fault! I was just amazed how town followed your decisions when even you yourself weren't certain what you were doing. That's crazy right there. I almost used my vig kill on you at one point because you just seemed far too paranoid to be town. After my death however I'm glad I didn't, since your alignment became solid. Goose played completely as expected. This is why I didn't call him out. RDBU nothing needs to be said, just that he might need to be banned from future games unless he's willing to participate. Shock as everyone knows fucked up big time by misleading town and allowing 4 people to die in one cycle. Scott didn't make any major mistakes for me, except railing on Goose. I'll admit, I defended Goose way hard before I even knew he was town. This is solely because Goose is a great character and his posts are hilarious and he makes the game exciting. The fact that everyone wanted someone dead who actually makes the game more enjoyable when his alignment wasn't clear to be mafia is beyond me. If MVT played much worse than I expected I would call him out on it too. Don't take it personally. I know you didn't have much time to contribute to the game so you did well considering your limitations. And I guess after Day 3 towns' chances were pretty grim. After padz died I knew there was 1 more admin, and 2 mafia. This is why I cringed as I saw everyone hammer MattV when several people had been railing Darius. Come Day 5 the only ones trying to get Darius lynched were mafia themselves! 3 Mafia at the end was a complete shock. MVT had everyone fooled. Definitely gonna be weary of him in any future games hosted. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by padz on 04/04/11 at 17:57:32 4C292829180 wrote:
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by KoopZ on 04/04/11 at 18:09:40 it's definitely nice to be on the winning team from time to time. ;D gg to everyone. i didnt switch my vote from silver on day 2 for reasons that were already discussed in game... basically i was hoping to pick up a lot of town cred. too bad that both padz and shock targeted me. wish i could've helped out my team more, but zwieb MVT and darius making it all the way to the end together is fuckin incredible. with a little bit of luck on our side as well, town didnt stand a chance. when matt v claimed near the end, i thought we were in trouble, but some how we still got him lynched. ;D many many thanks to honko for hosting, excellent job as always with the incredible amount of work involved in hosting one of these things. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/11 at 18:10:26 i knew fairly well what i was doing day 4-6 sword. Day 2 was really paranoid indeed. And you didn't have to explain everyone for me by the way, i was just trying to tell you that town was one big fuck up :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 04/04/11 at 18:21:21 5B5757484B4C5D4A380 wrote:
You would have been best off not logging in before EOD. When every single active player in the game is screaming for anyone who shows up to switch and you don't switch, you're obvmaf. The only people still voting Supr had gone to bed several hours before. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Matt V on 04/04/11 at 20:05:37 Wow, didn't expect to come back to this. Yeah I lied about my role, but I was sure of Darius' role, just nobody believed me. I was selfish enough to hope we could lynch him and I'd be a cleared townie. I hate that I'm always suspected scum every game I play. I think it's because I read too fast, and then on second read I find something to change my mind lol. To be honest, TOWN might have won if we lynched Darius, because I was planning to NK Zwiebel if I lived. That would've left us just trying to weed out MVT. My inability to get online really hurt my team too, so I apologize padz and Tyler. Sorry to everyone who expected a good read on the admin board, communication was scarce between us. Congrats to all Mafia members, and good game to everyone! I can't wait for the next one. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Darius on 04/04/11 at 23:13:35 Awesome, we got it. I found it rather funny that everyone really started suspecting me once I was actually able to contribute MORE to the game. I was pretty sure that everyone outside the thread would be sitting there screaming DARIUS IS MAFIA but I knew if we could convince the likes of TvL, Ivo and RVZ that I wasn't, we'd be in great shape. I think Padz played his hand too early; once he started talking about me being untouchable, we had the confirmation that he really did have that role. I knew from then that if we could get that lynch over mine, we would be strong favourites. Matt did us a favour by giving himself away with his reactions. All of that Admin hunting by me over the last couple of days was absolutely genuine; it allowed me to scumhunt and analyse loads whilst taking out our biggest threat. There were three major factors I think helped us win: first, the Shock fiasco played right into our hands, and continued to do so long after his death with the Koopz kill claim. Second, N4 was confusing as hell to all concerned except Ivo and RVZ, and I think I ended up coming across as townier than Padz to them because they knew the reason wasn't really because I was untargettable. Third, we just had too many easy mislynch targets later in the game. I might have been lynched on D4 if RDBU had been contributing more and not so easy to paint as lurking scum, and both Padz and Matt lying about their claims really helped me to put up convincing cases on them. Ivo: I don't think you'd lost after D3 at all. Mafia/Admin crosskills could easily have played out differently, and if town had lynched me D4, I think it would have been pretty close. I do think no-one would have tied MVT and Zwiebel to me anyway, though. 14-5-3 was actually about a fair split, I think, having seen what town's PRs were. Apologies to Supr for bussing so hard; I would have been just as damning of that post edit as town so I felt I had to keep putting pressure on once I knew people had seen it. Koopz got put in a tough situation at the end of D2 and ended up getting vigged for it, which was unfortunate. MVT and Zwiebel were great scumbuds and we did about the most distancing I think I've seen in a mafia game; I'm sure even if I was lynched, people wouldn't have caught them unless the night actions trapped them. Thanks to Honko for modding, and good game everyone! |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by RVZ on 04/05/11 at 01:39:11 Now that i think of it. At the end of Day4 where I went out of line posting after majority was reached Zwiebel you never intended to leave your vote on your scumbuddy Darius there. You just waited for a good reason to vote for RDBU did you? :) I thought I was paranoid when I thought of it later and didn't persued on it. Especially when nobody mentioned it at the start of Day 5. And you don't mention it yourself at all should also have ringed a bell. Bad bad bad play :P |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Darius on 04/05/11 at 01:46:34 Yeah, I think there were things like that which people overlooked because they were so busy focusing on the night actions and whether to lynch me or not. Zwiebel did a good job of coasting along, never saying anything to draw too much attention and keeping the focus on other players. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by TvL on 04/05/11 at 02:01:49 Damn, what an anticlimax. I was expecting to see the result of Matt's lynch, nothing more. I'm extremely disappointed now because I put a lot of attention into this game (starting day 3, that is). To be honest, it was a mistake to join; I didn't really know what I was getting myself into. No experience with this type of mafia game, a lot of players, and not a lot of time. I actually admitted it on day 2 somewhere; I said I didn't have the time and lacked the motivation to make time. On the other hand, because this game lasts so long and I was part of a team, I felt a lot of pressure to do things right; but that would mean investing a lot of time. With my newly gained experience, I can now look back on my play on day 1 and 2 and laugh really hard about how noobish it was. ;D On day 1 I was completely lost as to wtf I was supposed to do; no information yet, nothing to go on. I just tried to make some posts and hoped not to look scummy. Which fails, I now realize. Day 2 wasn't much better, because I was still clueless and still focussing on not looking scummy. If it's one thing I've learned, it's that as town, you can't be too concerned about looking scummy. If you make posts with that in mind, your posts end up looking forced and actually do look scummy because of that. Or you post very little, and that's also no good. Speak up as if it's obvious that everyone thinks (or should think) you're town. I made a mistake in joining, but I'm glad that I did. Starting day 3, I was getting a grip and started to have theories based on previous actions. Finally there were some facts to go on and I could analyze like I know I can, and maybe some of you expected beforehand. Not that I was right though; on day 4 I was convinced that out of padz, RVZ and Matt V, at least two were Mafia. Actually none of them were, although two were scum. Ok, somewhat right then, but for the wrong reasons. On day 3, there was the plan of Goose finishing off Shock. At first I was not in favor, because I thought they could very well both be town. Then I remembered my power role. As Honko said, I could stop one lynch during the game. I didn't think I'd ever use it, because I would have to be EXTREMELY sure that I was right; lynching is one of town's main weapons I figured. But on day 3, I had the plan of preventing Shock's lynch. If the day was over after Goose's 8th vote, Shock would've been proved town and I would've saved him. Goose would also have picked up town points. So that's why I was suddenly in favor of this plan, and that's also why I stayed up till 4 am to see what happened. Also to make up my mind if I should or should not prevent it; what if Goose was scum after all? When the 8th vote didn't end the day, I figured Shock was lying and withdrew my protection. I have to admit, I considered protecting Darius from being lynched on day 5 when it was between him and padz, because I really had a good feeling about Darius. (Nice going Darius!) In the end though, my lack of experience did let me down. I've only ever played "live" games with a few other noobs, a known number of townies and mafia, and one cop. I really thought at the end that there would be 2 mafia left and maybe 1 admin. I went with Ivo a lot because I knew he was an experienced player, I had a big town vibe from him and we seemed to agree about a lot of things (about Darius for instance). Anyway, I'm extremely disappointed now because I put a lot of effort in this game, sacrificed on sleep and other activities, and came out empty-handed. I'm especially gutted because I really really did not expect to have lost coming online just now. In fact, when I saw the game was over, my first thought was that Matt was the only remaining mafia and we had won. Bummer. Well, I guess it's time to say congratulations to KoopZ, Supr, Darius, MVT and Zwiebel. Especially the latter three because I really had a town vibe on them. I have to say though that my suspicions on Zwiebel and MVT were on the rise during the final day, because Zwiebel was just going with the flow and MVT was really portraying his opinions as gospel. But Darius I had no issues with anymore after Ivo's claim. Nice going guys! And of course thanks to Honko for a very well organized game! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by RVZ on 04/05/11 at 02:15:29 Quote:
This is so true. You played very well the last couple of days. You went from a scummy player to an almost certain townie, without even roleclaiming. This was probably when you realized the thing you mentioned in the quote above. Quote:
I know what you mean. I was about to go to sleep yesterday but first I wanted to see the outcome of Matt V. I was absolutely stunned and couldn't even sleep for an hour lol ;D |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Darius on 04/05/11 at 02:25:29 033F383A362408211B570 wrote:
Spot on. This is what a lot of people in this game really didn't get. Even if you get lynched, in the long run town is better off for people playing without fear and really challenging other players and posting their own opinion. Too many townies in this game went along with the general consensus because they were worried about looking scummy. 033F383A362408211B570 wrote:
And this is why, as a general rule, you should always read your role PM carefully and you should never lie or claim your role in parts. Goose screwed up town with his fake cop claim and Shock ruined his credibility by claiming both bomb and miller at a later stage and failing to notice that he actually wasn't a hated townie. I thought you played a good game from D3 onwards. You had your own perspective on the game and you approached things logically. I had you down as an easy mislynch early on but I stepped back from that because you appeared more and more townie as the day went on. The other stuff will come with experience on forum mafia. I've played about 50 games now, most of which are usually much slower than this, but the principles are the same. As I've played plenty of large games like this, if I was town I would have been much more forcefully warning people that there were likely to be more mafia than everyone was assuming there were, which I think really would have changed thinking yesterday. Generally the percentage of mafia in large themes with multiple factions is around 33%, depending on the setup, so assuming there were only 2 left was a major mistake that a few players made. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by The Gaff on 04/05/11 at 02:37:26 [smiley=roll.gif] As normal my intepretation of the game is completely different. I have no idea who or why MVT was not lynched... i thought he was mafia fairly early on. The admins were also clearly unlucky and the game needed them to take out mafia in order to balance the game. well played tho maf |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by padz on 04/05/11 at 03:10:08 1633203B2721520 wrote:
:-? :-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/05/11 at 03:14:39 5E7B68736F691A0 wrote:
Spot on. This is what a lot of people in this game really didn't get. Even if you get lynched, in the long run town is better off for people playing without fear and really challenging other players and posting their own opinion. Too many townies in this game went along with the general consensus because they were worried about looking scummy. [/quote] I think this game had only 4 townies that really weren't scared to die, goose, scott, shock and me. Lol, darius, 50 games already, i think i've got something like 10 now, and i've hosted about 4 or 5 i think. I think you've played as much games as our 5 most experienced players. About the roleclaiming, i really think it partially cost us the game, so much half or fake roleclaims, shock, goose, tim, rvz, padz, not to talk about rdbu claiming vanilla townie to save his own ass. Your roleclaim was terrible as well, but it seems you just went for the quick lynch, which made it fine looking back now. Yes thomas, i know how you feel, i think i did just as much work to win this game, and was really sad it was over. We'll win next time ok? |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Darius on 04/05/11 at 03:34:09 0534312F2025550 wrote:
:-? :-? :-? :-?[/quote] I meant in the sense that you claimed town vig. The lack of reaction to Shock claiming the kill made sense if you were Admin. It didn't make sense if you were town. In the same way I knew Matt really did have some kind of rolecop result on me, so he was telling the truth in that regard. I just didn't believe he had a town ability because his actions after he got the result didn't make sense from town. Both of you tried to play it under the radar instead of revealing what you knew, which is scum mentality. Ivo; oh yeah, my claim obviously wasn't a pro-town thing at all. I basically said it to make you think that I had a role which would explain me not getting killed, as well as a role that was still worth something in the game. Matt's was not only implausible, it was also useless as he had already claimed to use his shot. I thought if I softclaimed something that would help town and not provide too many details, it would help to tip the balance in favour of a Matt lynch. I was actually going to claim Commuter if it came to it, meaning I could leave town every other night in order to avoid night actions. You're right about the softclaims, it gave us far too much information and none of them were really necessary at the times they claimed. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Ivootjes on 04/05/11 at 03:46:27 i actually read back day 5 thinking you were commuter. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Zwiebel on 04/05/11 at 04:37:59 2A150C0C17090610630 wrote:
I was confused by that, but I just took it as my advantage and just shut up D5 and 6, I didn't really post anything then and no one cared. I actually insulted Darius of staying under the radar, but I myself did so and noone realized ;D. Anyway, it was a fun game nontheless. Also of course thanks to Honko for hosting, you made a great job [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/05/11 at 07:33:42 I knew when i died N1 it had to be koopz that killed me. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Timothy on 04/05/11 at 08:36:37 Well played maf, especially Timur and MVT. I possibly shouldn't have signed up because of my trip to Dublin, after day 3 I was completely out of the loop. Thanks Honko for hosting. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Suprsilver on 04/05/11 at 11:51:57 I told you I was handicapped ;) |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by KoopZ on 04/05/11 at 15:30:13 15362934323521333F767677460 wrote:
you know its nothing personal.... or maybe it is. ::) i dont even know how our little rivalry got started, just that its been perpetuated thru every game we've played together. |
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Title: Re: MB Mafia - gg no rm Post by Matt V on 04/06/11 at 07:50:52 Actually Coop I'm the one who placed the kill on you sort of. I don't have a specific reason, you just seemed to be maf to me, as you often end up being. :P Not that you had a chance when you got double-killed. :P |
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