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https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl General >> Mafia >> Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1296280113 Message started by Honko on 01/28/11 at 21:48:33 |
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Title: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Honko on 01/28/11 at 21:48:33 It was a dark and stormy night. Calibur, Clark, Darius, Honko, Kmacc, KoopZ, MVT, Padz, Scott, Sportsguy, and Sword were huddled in a small basement playing eXXXtreme Spin The Bottle. Just when KoopZ was sitting down to strip, a huge boom of thunder shook the air, and the power went out. In the pitch darkness, nobody even noticed Clark and Honko mysteriously undressing. But when Scott finally found a flashlight and turned it on, they were all shocked to see the two curled together in a huge pool of Clarkjuice, Honkmilk, and mostly blood. Clark has died. He was Christopher C. Clark, Town Sneaky Raptor. Honko has died. He was Hunko C. Honko, Town Mafia Host. In Honko's manly dead fist they found a tiny note with the following words. 2 Jesters 3 Vigilantes 2 Roleblockers 2 Mafia Roleblockers READ THE FUCKING RULES This is an open game. There are 2 Jesters, 2 Mafia, and 5 Town with the roles listed above. You should have received your role in a PM. A Jester is an independent player whose only goal is to get himself lynched during the day. If that happens, he instantly wins. If he gets killed at night or if the game ends some other way first, he loses. Jesters have no night actions. If one Jester is lynched, the game continues without him and everyone else plays for second place. If the other Jester also gets lynched, the game ends. A Jester will also win by default if he is still alive and all non-Jester players are dead. Both Mafia players are Roleblockers and can discuss the game with each other outside the thread. Each night, one of them can kill a player. The Mafia instantly win and the game ends if they make up at least half the game's living population as a day phase begins. For example, if there are 4 players left and 2 of them are mafia at the start of Day 3, mafia wins. The Town has 2 Roleblockers and 3 Vigilantes. The Vigilantes can each shoot one player every night, although they are not required to do so. The Town instantly wins and the game ends if all the Mafia are dead and at least one Town player is still alive. If, through overwhelming violence, everyone dies without anyone reaching their win condition, I win. THE FUCKING RULES We have a pretty good player list that should know the rules. I'm going to post them anyway because I'm tired of people not following them. I will modkill you if you break the rules. Don't test me. 1) Do not discuss the game outside this thread. The only exception is for the two mafia players talking to each other. Nobody else should be talking about the game outside this thread at all. Do not discuss the game in IRC. Do not discuss the game on MSN. Do not discuss the game on AIM. Do not discuss the game in PMs. Do not discuss the game on another board. Do not discuss the game in other topics. Do not discuss the game via site news updates. Not even when you think you're about to die. Not even to tell someone the topic is open and they should post. Not even to discuss a mistake you think the host made. Not even to say this game is dildos. If you desperately need someone to bounce your ideas off of, bounce them off me. Who knows, I might even accidentally let something slip (not likely, I'm pretty smrat). DO NOT DISCUSS THE GAME OUTSIDE THIS THREAD. 2) Do not discuss the game with living players after you have died. At all. Dead players can talk to dead players all they want, but anyone who is alive should not be talking with anyone who is dead. You're dead. Deal with it. 3) Do not edit/delete your posts. I'll let you get away with editing a post during the first 5 minutes after it's made to fix typos or add something you forgot, but if you delete anything, or if the "Last modified by:" tag shows up, you're dead. 4) Do not post screenshots of role PM. Everyone's role PM is extremely short. For example, if you're a Vigilante, it will say "Vigilante" and nothing else. Jesters say "Jester" and Town Roleblockers say "Roleblocker". Easily faked, but I'll still modkill you if you're stupid enough to screenshot it. 5) You must name a vegetable in one of your posts on day 1. Or I'll modkill you. Seriously. 6) Play to win. Especially in a ridiculous game like this, the momentum can shift very quickly. Giving up is stupid. ANYONE WHO BREAKS THESE RULES WILL BE MODKILLED AND BANNED FROM FUTURE GAMES. THE RULES ARE NOT HARD TO FOLLOW. YOU ARE ALL INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO KNOW BETTER THAN TO BREAK THEM, SO I WILL NOT BE MERCIFUL. NOT EVEN TO SWORD. Vote like this: Vote: Clark. If you want to change your vote, you must post Unvote first. You may also vote for No Lynch. Votes and unvotes must be bolded and must be the first thing on their line so I can easily spot them. You cannot vote for yourself (sorry Jesters). Days will last ~48 hours and nights ~24 hours. If a day ends with a tie, it will be extended until the tie is broken. If you have any questions, PM me. Btw, I wrote the story before I selected the roles. So go ahead and try to look for secret meanings if you want, but you won't find any. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Honko on 01/28/11 at 21:49:32 Player List 1. Calibur 2. Darius 3. Kmacc 4. KoopZ 5. MVT 6. Padz 7. Scott 8. Sportsguy 9. Sword With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when a player reaches 5 votes. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/28/11 at 21:49:45 Good evening, everybody. My name is Scott and I'm glad to be a part of this little group we've got. I heard from an unnamed source that there are two among us who intend to kill off the rest of us one by one. This does not sit well with me! I'm going to go on a personal quest to identify and put to death any and all conspirators within our little clan here. If you think you can get away with outright murder, you're wrong. It's not right. Once I get on your scent, I'm going to work as hard as I can to convince the rest of the members here that you should be taken down before any harm can come to us. Anyone who is with me and wants justice and peace among us should stand up and proclaim their allegiance to the good and proper. This isn't a silly game, this isn't an invented plot, this is real. Let's get to work, fellas! |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/28/11 at 21:49:54 Oh I see, this is like an allstar game. I'm sick and need sleep. C y'all in the morning. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/28/11 at 21:52:33 506A4D71786D585E76767D4D7170777E190 wrote:
Scott for Town President! Goodnight. Post it up. I want some reading material when I wake up. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/28/11 at 21:58:34 Yes! I propose we squash those who wish to kill us. Thanks for the support, MVT. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/28/11 at 22:07:52 655F78444D586D6B434348784445424B2C0 wrote:
sounds legit |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/28/11 at 22:18:43 Now don't you go putting words into my mouth. Such an inaccurate representation is bound to get you into trouble, padz. All this danger is putting me on edge! I think I'll have to relax for a while. Maybe someone else will start sorting through this big mess. Guess I'll sit back with a can of dry ginger ale and a bag of pretzels, and take in an episode of The Wire. Gotta get my mind in the right place to focus on this situation properly. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Calibur on 01/28/11 at 22:57:30 Vote: padz Reason: cunt |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/29/11 at 02:57:00 Vote: Koopz Carrot. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/29/11 at 04:55:41 7B50574B56390 wrote:
comedy honk is potato Vote: Sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 06:58:13 01232E2B203730420 wrote:
Who is this? I don't want people around who I don't recognize! Vote Calibur |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 07:08:52 I'm going to do something really abnormal and it may seem strange. I love the position I'm in though with the way the game is setup. I think claiming this early in a game setup like this one is fine for me with my role. I am a town vigilante. Boom! I said it! If the mafia are smart they want me around until the jesters are dead because I increase the chances of killing them off. The mafia should theoretically take a chance at night with the goal of killing a jester or town roleblocker. Town also wants me around because I'm on their team duh. The only guys that really don't want me around in the first few days are the jesters! And hey don't we all want them dead!? Sorry if this seems really weird to claim right now. Since this is a quick gimmicky game and my role puts me in a position where I am valuable to to both town and mafia in the first few days I'm doing this. Sort of an experimental play I suppose. Carry on with the day now. Let's lynch a scum.... Actually in a setup like this the option of "No Lynch" is going to a very valuable tool and should be a seriously considered option, especially in d1 when so little is known and it's a giant toss up...a jester could easily end up being lynched and town loses boooo! Take this post as you wish~ I'm sure some of you are thinking OMG HE DID THE UNTHINKABLE! He ROLECLAIMED 1st page of the game and brought up the option of NO LYNCH! oh nooo! But before you jump off the deep end or have a heart attack, please consider the strange nature of this game. This is not your standard mafia game and I think things (game dynamics) are flip flopped and sort of different and changed in a set up like this. A set up like this where these strange plays and ideas I just brought up should be acceptable at the very least, even if you disagree with them. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Calibur on 01/29/11 at 09:17:10 1E2F26261E2B262F4A0 wrote:
Who is this? I don't want people around who I don't recognize! Vote Calibur[/quote] Oh silly MVT. How do you not remember me? Don't you remember the awesome times we shared on the #stardashers' IRC? I banned you on a daily basis; how could you forget our amazing relationship! Anyway, I have to go pea now. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/29/11 at 10:09:21 cool, so youre a safe lynch then fiddlehead vote: MVT |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/29/11 at 10:39:46 Bold, bold MVT, you sure are something else! So now I'm to assume that you are able to take a shot at whoever you wish during the night. That's awesome! Well, seems awesome...until you realize you don't have a flippin clue who is on the side of good and whose loyalties are with that clan known as "mafia." Just don't get our own guys killed by accident! Padz, you think that because he's not one of those psycho death seekers we call jesters that it's a great idea to lynch him here and now. I wonder how that move would turn out in the long run. How can we trust him not to be fisting our goats? If he really was a jester, he'd probably love coming up with a story just like that! Clubbur, Swordman, and Dario: Jeepers guys! Getting all aggressive so early seems dangerous. Hope those cats wake up in time to see they're being targeted as serious suspects. They probably deserve it for being so quiet! That countdown clock on the back wall still has a lot of time left on it, so there's no need to do anything rash at this point. Can't wait to hear what the rest of our group thinks about the events that have happened so far! Whoever knows what they're doing: Man, we sure could use a good planner in the bunch. We should get some of you more knowledgeable than me to start listing things that would be pro-town, pro-mafia, and pro-jester, then maybe we'll be able to apply those later in the game once people have started to let their true identity slip. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Kmacc on 01/29/11 at 10:50:55 I can see how No Lynch would make sense in this game, but I'm not sure it could be as effective. It's definitely an option though, we'll see how the day plays out. At night, if all three vigs attempt to make kills, even with roleblockers, there's still a decent chance one of them can be jesters and that's just as risky as making a day lynch, and that's something not everybody has control over. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go fix the leek in my sink. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 10:58:19 0C3D3826292C5C0 wrote:
Safe lynch? Yes. I'm not a jester. Do I want you to lynch me NO! It may have been a bold move early, but it got things going instead of the usual bs voting and fooling around at the start of the game. At least it kept things interesting. I will be mafia roleblocked probably, but I have no desire to kill anyone at night yet anyway. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 11:05:49 4765686D667176040 wrote:
Who is this? I don't want people around who I don't recognize! Vote Calibur[/quote] Oh silly MVT. How do you not remember me? Don't you remember the awesome times we shared on the #stardashers' IRC? I banned you on a daily basis; how could you forget our amazing relationship! Anyway, I have to go pea now.[/quote] Regardless of anything you are the mafia n00b of this all star cast. Is this your first game? ::) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/29/11 at 11:12:19 Calibur is legit, doubt Honko woulda put him in if he knew he was gonna suck ass, at least give him a chance ::) Either way I don't really know what to say about your claim. I guess it's benefitial for both teams you revealing so it's not too much of a bad thing. If everyone starts doing it then we have a huge problem. Since we all know that those signed up actually want to participate I'm not gonna focus on nailing inactives. Infact a Jester could easily lurk and never post because he WANTS to be lynched. Fuck that shit. My vote is on Tyler because he plays the same way every game and he'll be one of the hardest to read in the later stages of the game. I wanna know : you scum? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 11:16:45 Everyone should not claim. Definitely not. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 11:17:27 Unvote Vote No Lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/29/11 at 11:30:56 1F2E27271F2A272E4B0 wrote:
comedy |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Calibur on 01/29/11 at 11:55:21 46777E7E46737E77120 wrote:
Who is this? I don't want people around who I don't recognize! Vote Calibur[/quote] Oh silly MVT. How do you not remember me? Don't you remember the awesome times we shared on the #stardashers' IRC? I banned you on a daily basis; how could you forget our amazing relationship! Anyway, I have to go pea now.[/quote] Regardless of anything you are the mafia n00b of this all star cast. Is this your first game? ::) [/quote] >implying I don't know how the game works. Yes, it's my first game, but that doesn't mean I don't know what I'm doing. I've been watching previous mafia games as early as the DK theme back in April of last year. With that aside, tell me "n00b," why should we believe your roleclaim? And don't go off telling me "IT'S BEST FOR TOWN, YOU GUYS GOTTA TRUST ME!" Trusting people on Day 1, I lol'd. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Kmacc on 01/29/11 at 12:01:16 MVT may be lying about his role and he could be mafia, but I would be surprised to see him come out as Jester. It would be a weird and counter-productive strategy that probably wouldn't work out for him. That's just my thought on that. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Honko on 01/29/11 at 12:04:17 Vital Votals [1] padz - Calibur [1] Koopz - Darius [1] Sportsguy - Sword [1] MVT - padz [1] No Lynch - MVT [0] Calibur - (MVT) Day ends in 34 hours. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sportsguy001 on 01/29/11 at 12:36:18 This is the only game i have said this, but I actually agree that a no lynch could be a good idea. I'm not mafia or a jester. I'm a townie that also hates celery. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/29/11 at 12:37:25 Hi there Kmacc. One comment regarding your latest post. Coming out as a jester would be the worst move ever for any player regardless of role. You would not be lynched during the day and surely would be targeted at night, probably by several people with this many killing roles. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 12:46:39 0C2E23262D3A3D4F0 wrote:
Who is this? I don't want people around who I don't recognize! Vote Calibur[/quote] Oh silly MVT. How do you not remember me? Don't you remember the awesome times we shared on the #stardashers' IRC? I banned you on a daily basis; how could you forget our amazing relationship! Anyway, I have to go pea now.[/quote] Regardless of anything you are the mafia n00b of this all star cast. Is this your first game? ::) [/quote] >implying I don't know how the game works. Yes, it's my first game, but that doesn't mean I don't know what I'm doing. I've been watching previous mafia games as early as the DK theme back in April of last year. With that aside, tell me "n00b," why should we believe your roleclaim? And don't go off telling me "IT'S BEST FOR TOWN, YOU GUYS GOTTA TRUST ME!" Trusting people on Day 1, I lol'd.[/quote] Asking for foolproof hard evidence on Day 1. I lol'd. I gave my role away already. Can't really do anything else to make you believe my roleclaim that I am a town vig at the moment. Hopefully as in any mafia game by successfully hunting down a mafia I will prove myself over time. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 12:49:16 Darius had 1 garbage post. Koopz hasn't posted at all. Step it up boys. [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/29/11 at 13:47:56 I would be in favour of a No Lynch also. Anything to avoid lynching a Jester ... Day 1 is a complete shot in the dark 90% of the time anyway. Interesting, Sportsguy. But I must ask this - normally you always place a vote on Koopz at the start of the game if you're in the same game together. I guess you decided against it for once? The above isn't any attempt of acccusation or anything, but it strikes me as odd that he didn't do it this time when he's done it more often than once :o I'm also looking forward to Darius' insight. Would be nice to hear from Koopz too. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sportsguy001 on 01/29/11 at 14:09:19 Vote Koopz Since i'm not allowed to change my mafia style, i have to vote koopz. I'll kill him tonight if my role allows me to. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/29/11 at 14:25:00 No lynch has its drawbacks here. For a start, town PRs have no information to go off, so instead of a shot in the dark during the day, we've got a bunch of PRs at night who have no concrete information to base their decisions on. It does have the benefits of guaranteeing we don't let a jester win, but it also ensures that we don't lynch scum. Technically town could lose 4 players overnight too, so by no-lynching we could automatically hand the initiative to scum and the jesters. It all really depends how much people are willing to trust the vigs & roleblockers to make a good decision based on no info tonight; they could win or lose the game in one night, really. My instinct is that we should lynch, because any information is better than no information. Honko: can a mafia player block and kill on the same night? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/29/11 at 14:39:14 That's not what I meant, Sportsguy. I just found it strange to see you not do it thus I pointed it out :P You have no obligation to root for Koopz every game, I just noticed it. I think before you make yourself dead set on killing him you should at least give him a chance to say something. And Darius, the odds of lynching scum are low at this point. There is no information to go off of, either, that will help us make a more educated lynch. Something may come up in the next 30 or so hours, but usually that isn't the case. Either way we're taking our chances. If scum is lynched, it makes it a tad easier. If town is lynched, then we're at a disadvantage from the get go. If a Jester is lynched, I'd say it's benefitial for both teams. It's just that we're more likely to fuck up than make the right choice, so it comes down to a matter of luck. Unless of course, someone gives themself away. Possible, has happened before (Howes in Pokemafia) but unlikely. Unvote |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/29/11 at 14:48:34 The difference is that if you have no information on D1 other than what discussion brings, it doesn't have the same impact as it does on someone who can kill or prevent a kill at night, who are going to have to make a decision solely based on today's actions. With only 5 townies, this might be the only day we have a majority that can control the vote - if the night actions go against us, the mafia and the jesters could have just as much, or even more say over tomorrow's lynch. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/29/11 at 15:08:51 oh wow, didnt see that i was even in this game nor that it had started already. scott's mafia. i've got a hunch. /tom |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/29/11 at 15:18:33 and so, to back up that post: Vote Scott i'm having corn tonight with mah spaghetti. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/29/11 at 15:59:57 Not sure what Koopz could possibly have against me here so early on. Hopefully he'll see I'm not the one to shoot for today soon enough. All this talk about deciding not to gather forces in an attempt to put down evil as a group in favor of relying upon tactically wise individuals seems to be a somewhat safe play, considering the implications of a rather random lynch on the first day of this disaster. Has everyone in the room had something to say, at this point? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/29/11 at 18:17:26 no reply for over two hours? i know its a saturday night, but i thought surely someone would've said something again.... unvote vote Tyler no matter what i think about scott, tyler is always sus to me. he's gotta be maf, i just know it. /tom |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Honko on 01/29/11 at 18:31:27 Q: Can a mafia player block and kill on the same night? A: Yes. 27.5 hours left. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/29/11 at 21:42:26 only a 2/9 chance of hitting a jester today as opposed to anywhere from 1/8 to 2/5 tmo (and thats w/ nl) that said lynching those least likely to be jester is the worst possible play since in a way theyd actually be the most likely plus if someone who is sus flips nonjester it means the suspects are narrowed down that said im willing to risk the game on an mvt lynch since he is so obv it hurts and im thinking hes pretending to be jester to stay alive more than anything |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/29/11 at 21:43:34 to be clear, nl is still a terrible idea d1 and anyone suggesting it should be ashamed of themselves |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/29/11 at 23:23:21 No lynch is a great idea asshole. Unless you really want to lose the game by taking a random stab in the dark right now. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/30/11 at 01:21:25 So MVT, as a claimed vig, tell us why your shot tonight won't be a random stab in the dark if we no-lynch. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 08:39:18 684D5E45595F2C0 wrote:
Because I'm not going to kill anyone tonight... |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/30/11 at 08:41:06 WHY is everyone being so quiet this game? scott, where are you with your posts? i still get a weird vibe about you this game... i would just like to go ahead and add my thoughts about a no lynch being a bad idea. i definitely think someone needs to be lynched, thats the only way we're going to start being able to figure out who's who. my vote on tyler still stands. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/30/11 at 09:03:40 76474E4E76434E47220 wrote:
Because I'm not going to kill anyone tonight...[/quote] Fine, so say you're a vig but haven't outed yourself and you're not going to be blocked. Are you going to try to shoot someone? What do you think other vigs will do? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Kmacc on 01/30/11 at 09:25:44 With no lynch, it's true that you would have no leads for he next day, except for any night actions that may occur. However, of all the days, you learn the least going into day 2, even if there is a day 1 lynch. Secondly, Jester wins if we make a random lynch and kill him. If a vig takes a stab in the dark and kills a Jester at night, he doesn't win. So that's the advantage to a random kill at night as opposed to a lynch in the day. Not sure I still want to go with a no lynch, but over-aggression could lose town the game on day 1. I know the numbers could be smaller for us to lynch a mafia on day 2 if we wait until then, but if we mess up today, there will be no day 2. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 09:46:27 092C3F24383E4D0 wrote:
Because I'm not going to kill anyone tonight...[/quote] Fine, so say you're a vig but haven't outed yourself and you're not going to be blocked. Are you going to try to shoot someone? What do you think other vigs will do?[/quote] I am not planning to even attempt to kill anyone tonight. Just because I have the power doesn't mean I will or am required to use it. I don't trust the other vigs to follow my lead and I'm sure one or both of them will take some shots in the dark. I don't blame them, but I do not want too much destruction during the night. Consider it damage control. There is too much potential for a lot of townies to end up dead. That's why I plan on sitting this night out. I'm not sure why you are being so persistent in wanting to know exactly who the vigs will attempt to night kill. You nervous or something? Maybe if you keep pestering me I will kill you! [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 09:48:37 Let's get some votes going for no lynch!!! It's the best move for town at the moment and anyone doubting that is susp. Anyway for all we know, if the town roleblockers get lucky, no one will turn up dead in the morning! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/30/11 at 09:58:39 I'm just saying that if you expect people to use their powers in a useful manner, they need something to go on. If you're not planning to do anything, then no-lynch isn't so much of an issue. I've played a lot of mafia and my instinct is that lynch is always better than no-lynch on D1. The jesters do screw with things a bit, but I think we should play the game as though we're trying to beat the mafia, not trying to avoid the jesters. I'll look at the possible scenarios and think about how no lynch will play out, but my instincts are definitely against it. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/30/11 at 10:13:11 My real problem is, if we're being careful and no-lynching, where do you draw the line? If MVT's policy of doing nothing is followed, we might end up tomorrow with no further leads, and if we make it to tomorrow with 2 jesters still alive, are we no-lynching again? At what point are the no-lynchers happy to lynch in this game? With 1 jester dead? Only when both jesters are dead? Do people think all the vigs should shoot tonight? If not, do they all not shoot, or should only one or two of them shoot? Until people have answers to these questions, I'm not happy with a no lynch because we might end up in a position tomorrow where people say 'I'm not lynching, we might let the jesters win' and we end up just sitting here waiting for the scum to take people out. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Kmacc on 01/30/11 at 10:27:22 This game is just weird like that though, and really any wrong move could actually end the game, even on day 1. Mafia is going to make a night-kill surely, and maybe they'll get blocked, or we get lucky and the kill a jester. Vote: No Lynch It could be risky, but it may be the best choice. A good jester will act good enough to not look like he's jester straight out and wants to get lynched, but bad enough that it looks like he's a mafia trying to hide that, and is trying to walk the line between sabotage and not wanting to die, so the reverse psychology kicks in because he wants to look like mafia and die. I think no lynch will give us a better chance to win as town. I'd rather take some time to go slowly and give us more time to evaluate than lose on day 1 which is possible. I'm not here to play just to lose and go for second because a jester died, townies need to prevail above all. I know that no lynching is different from my previous game theories, but this game is totally different. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Honko on 01/30/11 at 10:28:42 Votals [2] No Lynch - MVT, Kmacc [1] padz - Calibur [1] Koopz - Darius [1] MVT - padz [1] KoopZ - Sportsguy [1] Sportsguy - (Sword), KoopZ [0] Scott - (KoopZ) [0] Calibur - (MVT) Day ends in 11.5 hours. Reminder that everyone should carefully read the rules if they haven't done so already. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/30/11 at 10:29:54 I'm surprised at the amount of people against no lynch. Most of the opposition against it is either "we have to lynch someone otherwise it doesn't feel right" or "we have nothing to work off of tomorrow if we don't lynch" Darius I really think you're overestimating the importance of Day 1. I wasn't expecting much when I woke up, and exactly that has happened. The day will be over in the next 20 hours or so and we still are debating over no lynch or lynch. Lynching is a shot in the dark at this stage. You know it is. Mafia want a lynch, since if they don't get a lynch then they're already at a disadvantage. Jesters want a lynch aswell, since that's what they need to win. Town obviously need to lynch scum, but the odds are against us, and unless you have a really solid justified reason as to why we should take a risk on someone, then I don't think it's worth it. The odds of being successful are slim. If we no lynch, and then everything backfires at night, there is still a chance. Besides, if you want a lynch, then why not propose on who you would consider lynching? We haven't really covered shit today. We don't have anything to go off of. Unless you have a proposal? I personally am unhappy with Koopz's posts so far. They're just really wishy washy. Don't sit well with me at all. Just really fluffy stuff. I know the vote on Tyler is because of the thing I stated in my post earlier, but I still think his posts are kinda poor right now. People who are not in favour of no lynch: Darius Koopz Padz |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 10:38:42 Padz strikes me as a vig. He might be stupid enough to kill me tonight considering how he said he's willing to risk the entire game on me being maf. Sorry dude but you got the wrong read this time. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/30/11 at 10:40:58 Mafia aren't at a disadvantage if we no lynch, that's the point. The lynch is town's best method of controlling the game, so by passing it up, the initiative passes to scum and they get to make the first move. Then we have to lynch one of them tomorrow without so much control over the lynch. Besides, all this discussion is still revealing, and the way people approach the issue is going to help us work out their alignment later on. As for the subject of who to lynch, I'd have to agree on Koopz. His Tyler vote is an easy cop-out based on prior games and despite his complaints that nothing is happening, I don't feel like he's made much effort to get things going himself. My vote's already there though. I'd like Calibur and Scott to put their votes down, or at least declare if they're definitely going to back no-lynch or not. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/30/11 at 10:46:24 I also think Calibur needs to step us his game. Not really doing too much in the way of posting ... what is your stand on the no lynch / lynch situation? Padz, your post is complete dildos. Risk the game on Day 1 with an MVT lynch? What the hell ... we should vote today because the odds of hitting Jester are slightly lower? I wouldn't actually agree. You're just basing it off of player ratio, not taking into account that Day 2 we will be able to read people better. I think come tomorrow we'll have a better idea where everyone stands. Which would mean we have a better idea on who is more likely to be a Jester than not. And who is more likely to be scum or not. Why the fuck are we basing the whole game around Jesters anyway? If you really don't want a Jester to be lynched then you'll no lynch in hopes that the vigs / mafia nail one tonight. Simple as. Darius, in no way did anyone indicate that a No Lynch will be the way to go for Day 2. Infact since the fluff day will be over, and perhaps a few people will have died, we have way more to work with, and I can pretty much guarantee it'll be the opposite. Besides, you have no obligation to use your power Night 1 ... it will usually come down to luck, anyway. I'm only really favouring the no lynch since Day 1 is mostly trash, not much has happened except - MVT has roleclaimed Sportsguy has threatened Koopz Scott has been acting scummy Koopz has been posting really bizarre shit I don't think any of the above is enough to make a decision on a lynch. The day is done in just over 10 hours, so unless something drastic happens, I don't really feel comfortable risking the entire fate of the game on Day 1. Vote: No Lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/30/11 at 10:49:22 Oops, I meant that Koopz has been acting scummy, and Scott has been posting really bizarre shit. Got them mixed up, my bad. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 10:52:55 Old quote. 22000D08031413610 wrote:
Who is this? I don't want people around who I don't recognize! Vote Calibur[/quote] Oh silly MVT. How do you not remember me? Don't you remember the awesome times we shared on the #stardashers' IRC? I banned you on a daily basis; how could you forget our amazing relationship! Anyway, I have to go pea now.[/quote] Regardless of anything you are the mafia n00b of this all star cast. Is this your first game? ::) [/quote] >implying I don't know how the game works. Yes, it's my first game, but that doesn't mean I don't know what I'm doing. I've been watching previous mafia games as early as the DK theme back in April of last year. With that aside, tell me "n00b," why should we believe your roleclaim? And don't go off telling me "IT'S BEST FOR TOWN, YOU GUYS GOTTA TRUST ME!" Trusting people on Day 1, I lol'd.[/quote] That sentence should directly lead into a no lynch vote with the logic it uses. If he doesn't vote no lynch after this statement he is suspicious as fuck. Calibur where are you dude? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Kmacc on 01/30/11 at 10:53:14 Mafia would definitely want a lynch on day 1. It's an easy way for them to get away with killing a townie, and then using an excuse such as "It was day 1, we had no leads, don't blame me." The way this game is formatted, it's pretty much an advantage for mafia to get a lynch on day 1. As town, we are cautious to lynch because of the jester factor, so anyone that looks even semi-suspicious can be jester or mafia, so we aren't sure to go after them. So like Sword said, only mafia and jesters want a lynch on day 1. Even if there is a lynch and it's a townie, you can't say even that gives up sufficient information for tomorrow, because day 1 is always a toss-up, it's not like we have the greatest leads (if any) when we make our decisions. In my opinion, anyone who wants a lynch is either a jester who wants to get lynched, or a mafia looking for an easy kill, and planning to bounce blame off of themselves on day 2. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/30/11 at 10:55:20 Sword, my concern is that Day 2 will be people repeating how no lynch is still a good idea. I just don't want no lynch to be a viable argument for the rest of the game because it gives scum an easy ride by letting them know they can just push it instead of conducting some genuine scumhunting. I think the consensus of the town is starting to lean towards NL precisely because most people have been lazy and just saying 'yeah, it's a shot in the dark to lynch'. If we no lynch today, nobody should be allowed to get away with that argument tomorrow, but I bet some people are still going to try it if not much happens tonight. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 10:59:15 4E6B78637F790A0 wrote:
It won't be an option for the rest of the game. The only possibility I can think of where I would be in favor of a second no lynch would be near endgame if there are a couple vigs left and no mafia. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/30/11 at 11:00:01 my first couple of posts were just me having fun. i was surprised to be included in the game like i said in my first post and that the game started already. i wasnt lying about scott seeming really weird though. usually from his posts i sense this kind of urgent sincerity to beat the mafia, but now it just seems like he's trying to be this grand MC and trying to be the leader of everything so he can direct us in whatever way he deems fit. this is just how i'm seeing it though. my vote to tyler is just a reference to past games and was made cuz thats usually how i start my mafia games, but my very first vote on scott was for real. i just get a wrong vibe from him. believe what you want about my first couple of posts. unvote Vote Scott |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Darius on 01/30/11 at 11:01:41 Kmacc: so do you think I'm mafia or jester? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 11:05:45 Not gunna lie, Scott did rub me the wrong way as well. I don't see his URGENCY like when he was town in the past. Also if Darius doesn't end up voting no lynch he is sus. Hell even if he does end up doing that it he is still sus simply because he is so against it. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 11:06:55 From a vig standpoint. The best person to take out tonight would be Scott. If one of the other vig is planning on making a kill, I would make that kill Scott. It won't be me that ends up doing the killing though. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Kmacc on 01/30/11 at 11:07:53 @Koopz: If Scott was mafia, he would be making it pretty obvious by your standards. Scott has done some screwy things in the past, but I don't think he would oust himself so easily. Maybe he wants that suspicion on him, because he's jester? You have to understand that in this game, some people have the motive to want to get lynched. They want to look suspicious, but not overly suspicious to the point it could be obvious that they're jester. If he were jester, you'd be buying into his plan perfectly. Maybe he's just changing his playing style for fun, I don't know. @Darius: We wouldn't be advocating a no lynch on day 2. Even if there's a no lynch today and virtually nothing happens during night 1, I think we have at least a few small leads to go by for day 2. Day 1 usually isn't very eventful, but as a group, there has been some disconnects and that will surely cause speculation. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Kmacc on 01/30/11 at 11:10:40 @Darius: I'm not sure enough on anyone yet to make definite accusations. Anyone who wants a lynch today is suspicious in my opinion, but nobody has been making any jester-like actions (aside from possibly Scott?) So to me, anyone who wants a lynch is suspicious and could be mafia. But for now, that's really my sole reason for believing so of you and any others who want a lynch, hence why I don't think lynching someone today would be the best idea. It's not quite enough evidence just yet in my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 11:11:27 Not sure why but Scott rubbed me as a jester right away. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 11:16:59 My 4 concerns in order from most suspicious to least suspicious. Scott - I read him as Jester. Seemed to try to exemplify fake kindness and fake towniness. It's almost like he wanted us to think he was not town and make us think he was mafia in order to get lynched. Darius - Seems like a bad guy. Not sure which one but his extreme discust for no lynch bothers me. Calibur - Seems mafiaish. Not posting much and his few posts I did not like. Padz - I read town vig. However I thought he would be smart enough to not want to risk the whole game by lynching someone right now. I don't understand his opposition to no lynch. His ratio example was rubbish. I wish he came out with a better explanation. Also would like for him to explain why he thinks I'm scum more clearly, instead of "comedy". Hope these turn out to be accurate. [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 11:29:40 A few people have read me so far as being extremely different than my previous play, mainly due to a "lack of urgency" to kill the mafia. This game is quite different than any game we've played together. Normally half the game's population are Vanillas who have no idea what's going on or how to play the game. There will be 4 people out of 23 that post like 2 times on day 1, and a group of 5 or so who are mafia. Here the numbers are different and the game is going to play out way differently. With my first few posts I was just trying to calm the thread down so we could skip the whole "HAI LOOK IM TOWN LOOK AT ME" and other stupid things that happen at the start of the game. Not trying to be controlling, more like an effort to keep anyone from doing anything outlandish. Darius, I see you're asking for my firm stance. I'm in the camp against lynching still, as I stated earlier. I'd rather see 3 town and 1 mafia take shots in the dark (likely to be blocked) at who they think could be the jester rather than trying to come to a group consensus right now. There really is never any way to know who is a mafia member on Day 1, especially when there are only 2 of them in a 9 person game. There are no big voting trends to try to pick on, there is less ability of the mafia to overrule an otherwise majority vote, and this is a very dangerous game. Call it a lack of urgency if you wish, but I'd rather take the 3x(1/2) chance for Town to do something productive and the 1x(1/3) chance for mafia to take out a jester at night than a total guess by day with a 2/9 chance of ending it all and a 7/9 chance of hurting town's night power greatly. After Night 1 we will have to reassess remaining powers and it will likely be a better idea to lynch the 2nd time around, especially if a jester is killed but not a mafia. Chances are good that a jester will get taken out Night 1 because RBs should be letting the carnage happen at this point. Basically I see the best thing for town as all night shots going through cleanly and taking out hopefully a mafia and happily a jester. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 11:43:23 I'm not going to discourage or encourage anyone to take any specific night action tonight. I personally will not be taking a night action. However I am sure there are other vigs who have set their sites on someone or made up their minds at taking a shot in the dark tonight. If I was forced to kill someone tonight I would have to choose between a few that I find suspicious, but luckily I will not be forced into making that choice. Vigs do as you wish. I'll let the night go without my influence (usually I try to direct people but in this case I think my silence will end up revealing even more). Roleblockers please do roleblock someone. There is no sense of not taking that action. I will be completely satisfied and content with the game no matter what happens at night as long as we get no lynch passed for this day. [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 11:45:54 I still would like to hear from Calibur and padz before the day ends though! Edit - Also would like Darius to vote No Lynch. Especially after we explained to him why and promised to not use it as a crutch in the future. He had no objections with the reasoning and I don't see why he won't just vote no lynch at this point. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 11:50:36 Are you saying you honestly don't know why or are you saying you have no idea why a town player wouldn't? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Honko on 01/30/11 at 11:53:17 Votals [3] No Lynch - MVT, Kmacc, Sword [2] Koopz - Darius, Sportsguy [1] padz - Calibur [1] MVT - padz [1] Scott - (KoopZ), KoopZ [0] Sportsguy - (Sword), (KoopZ) [0] Calibur - (MVT) Day ends in 10 hours. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 11:57:00 566C4B777E6B5E5870707B4B777671781F0 wrote:
I don't know why a town play wouldn't at this point. Especially after a few of us answered every question and concern that Darius presented us with. He just took our answers, didn't respond, and left it at that, still stubbornly holding out on a no lynch. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 11:57:57 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. On another note, I urge you to speak of a giant cabbage in your next post. For the good of all of us. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 12:11:24 MVT: That thing about the cabbage was aimed directly at you. If you're unsure what I'm talking about see the first post of the topic, rule 5. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sportsguy001 on 01/30/11 at 12:16:00 Lots of discussion. I am fairly neutral on the no-lynch strategy maybe slightly leaning to lynching someone. Only 2/9 chance we screw up and lose. I am most suspicious of MVT. He seems like someone who would fake role claim and really be mafia. unvote Vote MVT |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/30/11 at 12:25:40 1336253E2224570 wrote:
I'm pretty confident that noone will be inforcing a no lynch tomorrow. There would be no reason to. We are only doing this on day 1 because we don't have any leads and it would be the biggest gamble all game, and the odds are completely against us. It won't be a viable arguement for the rest of the game. I understand it doesn't tell us much about the players by no lynching, but are you willing it put the sake of the game at risk just "so we can have more information for those with power abilities"? As MVT said, most people with powers are either dead set on who they are going to target because either a) grudge or b) hunch. Day 1 is mostly junk and fluff, and I don't think a lynch would realy change the views of people as much as you claim it would. Scum won't ride on it all game either. Scum hate no lynch. About what you said on scum having the first move, that is overexaggerating again. Having the first move doesn't matter, since they are already off to a bad start. If we lynch today, the three possible outcomes are available: Lynch a Mafia (2/9 - Low Possibility, and would be extremely benefitial for town) Lynch a Jester (2/9 - Low Possibility, and would be extremely bad for town) Lynch a Town (5/9 - Highest Possibility, and would be absolutely terrible for town) A Town Lynch is benefitial to Mafia. Mafia have a 5/7 chance of hitting a town, and a 2/7 chance of hitting a Jester, but this is still partially good for them, as they can afford to lynch since they are far more likely to hit a Town than a Jester. A Mafia Lynch is benefitial to Town. Town have a 2/9 chance of hitting someone that lowers the Mafia count. Town has a 5/9 chance of fucking up and lynching Town, and a 2/9 chance of lynching a Jester and giving them the win. Therefore a lynch on Day 1 is way more benefitial to the Mafia over anyone else. They have the best odds. I think those who are against no lynch are more likely mafia than anyone else. Do you see how bad the odds are? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sωοrd on 01/30/11 at 12:35:20 01223D20262135272B626263520 wrote:
You don't think the 5/9 chance of lynching one of our own is bad at all? I would count a Town lynch as a screw up. It brings it down to 2:2:4 and the night actions tonight could very well set the ending for the game in stone. So it's really a 7/9 chance that we screw up. It's a 2/9 chance that we play it right. Why are people not getting this? I think most people are underestimating the power of the night actions. There could be 4 kills tonight if all the roleblockers fail, and if all 3 vigs and one of the two mafia make their kill. Sure, one or both of the Jesters could die, as could one or both of the Mafia. But the odds of town getting nailed is still much higher. If our count is lower, because we lynch one of our own on day 1, it makes it even harder to come back if the night actions are against our favour. Of course, I'm not saying that there will be 4 kills. But there could be. It's a complete toss up. We don't have any control over how well the night goes. It's a complete gamble. I don't see why any Town member would take the 2/9 chance of a good lynch today though personally :-/ I just don't really understand why there are some players who don't see that No Lynch is the best option right now. Unless of course they aren't town, and they are either a Jester or a member of the Mafia, who want a lynch since it helps their favour. Sounds more likely to me. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 12:49:12 Sword I'm with you here. Look at this from the perspective of a vig: you can attempt to back a lynch today with a 2/9 success rate (since you could get lynched yourself) OR you can push for NL and have a 4/8 chance of (individual) success! Much better odds at night. Group success is also much better at night. If all 3 shots are taken randomly, expected value is 1.5 maf/jesters hit (coming out even). This doesn't take into account the possibility of two people hitting the same guy. Four of the 8 possible scenarios kill 2 or 3 maf/jesters (and only 1 other townie). Taking only 2 shots is WORSE for town than taking 3 shots, so I encourage you to shoot MVT. With 2 shots expected value is only 1, meaning we're expected to come out even as well, but it's harder to get ahead. Only 1 of the 4 scenarios ends with more maf/jester killed than town, while 4 scenarios in the 3 shooter version end with more maf/jester killed. The mafia's night shot just adds to the chances of taking out a jester. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/30/11 at 14:11:02 sword and scott teaming up.... i'm keeping my vote on scott, and i still think a lynch should happen. regardless of how different this game is, lynching on the first day, no matter what, seems to me to be the best way to learn what to do for the rest of the game. yeah we would be taking a chance, but i think its a necessary one. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 14:16:52 Oh. I see Honko is making sure we read that now. Thanks Scotty boy! I owe you some broccoli. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/30/11 at 14:23:16 704A6D51584D787E56565D6D5150575E390 wrote:
challenge accepted |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 14:25:54 Whoa whoa whoa! That's not the intended meaning. I was speaking to MVT, telling him he'd be best off taking a shot. I wasn't telling anyone to kill him off. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 14:30:12 734247595653230 wrote:
challenge accepted[/quote] Go for it. You're only making your cause worse and lessening the town's chances. I can't believe you have read me this incorrectly this game. :-* [smiley=flush.gif] I expected better from you. I thought you had more intelligence than this. Maybe your reading comprehension is just poor. But hey. Like I said, do as you wish. I'm not going to push people into doing certain night actions. Even if I'm dead I trust that there are enough smart players playing this game that they will be able to piece together the puzzle D2. Still want to hear from Darius on why he ultimately decided to go against no lynch. Still want to hear from Calibur because he is playing terribly. Still want to hear from padz why he thinks I am susp. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/30/11 at 14:33:34 i think your sus because scott told me to shoot u and hes prolly scummate |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 14:37:22 59686D737C79090 wrote:
challenge accepted[/quote] Quote fixed. You're clearly misreading my intention with that post. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/30/11 at 14:53:46 well i sure am glad youre there to clarify that, i bet everyone else would have been left in the dark otherwise! |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/30/11 at 17:13:51 3 votes for no lynch? seriously guys? day ends in less than 5 hours and we're going to learn next to nothing about anyone today. also, idk why there are still two votes on me. i explained myself pretty well (at least i felt like i did), and its like i got completely ignored. what more do you want from me? :( |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/30/11 at 17:46:33 unvote vote: Koopz oh man i am so clever he doesnt want to nl but hes whining about having votes on him so im gonna stick it to him by voting him oned i bet hell never see this one coming |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/30/11 at 18:09:20 padz, tell me what you want me to say. i dont know how else to defend myself. i've explained my position, i explained my first couple of stupid posts, and now i'm saying what i think we should do before this day is over. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by MVT on 01/30/11 at 18:24:52 Somebody use their brain and vote no lynch to put it as the majority!! |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Honko on 01/30/11 at 18:26:05 Votals [3] No Lynch - MVT, Kmacc, Sword [2] Koopz - Darius, (Sportsguy), padz [1] MVT - (padz), Sportsguy [1] padz - Calibur [1] Scott - (KoopZ), KoopZ [0] Sportsguy - (Sword), (KoopZ) [0] Calibur - (MVT) Day ends in 3.5 hours. Congratulations to everyone for successfully reading the rules. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/30/11 at 18:26:13 There are still several hours remaining, MVT. If needed I'll surely cast my vote in the proper direction. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/30/11 at 18:26:17 huh?? is no lynch a hated townie???? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Calibur on 01/30/11 at 18:42:13 5B6A63635B6E636A0F0 wrote:
8-) na but legit padz is scum. obviously a no lynch is the best option, even though padz is maf. Unvote Vote: No Lynch no need to lynch anyone anyway since maf will kill someone tonight; just go off of that bit of information for tomorrow + possible kills from vigs instead of risking the lynch of a jester. ask anymore questions you may have for me now since i'll be here until the EOD. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/30/11 at 18:48:55 4762716A7670030 wrote:
darius said it best, right here. we need a lynch today gents, and even if it ends up being me, the town can still learn something from who voted for me (or someone else) and who didnt. that being said, i've re-read the topic again, and scott has done almost nothing except make grand proclamations about things that need to be done, agreed with a lot of things other people have said, but has brought very little actual information to the table. all of his posts are very wordy, he talks of good and evil (it is just a game dude), but has otherwise contributed nothing. and padz: 6F5E5B454A4F3F0 wrote:
i'm glad to see you agree with me and darius about no lynch being a bad idea. so why are you voting for me now? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/30/11 at 18:53:52 3A3636292A2D3C2B590 wrote:
ye im on board w/ this town why arent u voting koopz???? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Honko on 01/30/11 at 18:59:26 New Page Votals [4] No Lynch - MVT, Kmacc, Sword, Calibur [2] Koopz - Darius, (Sportsguy), padz [1] MVT - (padz), Sportsguy [1] Scott - (KoopZ), KoopZ [0] padz - (Calibur) [0] Sportsguy - (Sword), (KoopZ) [0] Calibur - (MVT) Day ends in 3 hours or when a majority (5 votes) is reached. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Calibur on 01/30/11 at 19:01:41 1D2C2937383D4D0 wrote:
ye im on board w/ this town why arent u voting koopz????[/quote] because he's jester and you're scum |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by padz on 01/30/11 at 19:06:00 koopz???? jester???? :-? :-? :-? :-? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by KoopZ on 01/30/11 at 19:22:01 6E5F5A444B4E3E0 wrote:
ye im on board w/ this town why arent u voting koopz????[/quote] you and your sarcasm. its obvious i'm not winning any arguements here. and calibur, to prove i'm not jester...... unvote vote No Lynch day over. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Night 1 Post by Honko on 01/30/11 at 19:29:07 The day has ended with No Lynch. Send your night actions to me via PM in the next 23 hours. If you don't plan on using your action tonight, I would appreciate it if you let me know that as well. Player List 1. Calibur 2. Darius 3. Kmacc 4. KoopZ 5. MVT 6. Padz 7. Scott 8. Sportsguy 9. Sword Final Day 1 Votals [5] No Lynch - MVT, Kmacc, Sword, Calibur, KoopZ [2] KoopZ - Darius, (Sportsguy), padz [1] MVT - (padz), Sportsguy [0] Scott - (KoopZ), (KoopZ) [0] padz - (Calibur) [0] Sportsguy - (Sword), (KoopZ) [0] Calibur - (MVT) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Honko on 01/31/11 at 19:26:20 Good morning! Lots of beautiful carnage today! Darius is dead. He was a Town Roleblocker. MVT is dead. He was a Town Vigilante. Sword is dead. He was a Mafia Roleblocker. The Living 1. Calibur 3. Kmacc 4. KoopZ 6. Padz 7. Scott 8. Sportsguy The Dead 2. Darius - Town Roleblocker (KN1) 5. MVT - Town Vigilante (KN1) 9. Sword - Mafia Roleblocker (KN1) Remaining Roles 2 Jesters 2 Vigilantes 1 Roleblocker 1 Mafia Roleblocker With 6 players alive it takes 4 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours. Request: Dead players, please completely refrain from posting. No farewell messages. You dead. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 19:27:48 so MVT wasnt lying.... and Sword turned up mafia. i'm telling you scott is scummy too. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 19:31:39 darius supported a lynch from the get-go, as did i. scott supported a no lynch, but refrained from actually putting a vote towards it. why? vote Scott |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 01/31/11 at 19:31:46 i agree vote scott |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 19:33:56 Things are looking good now with that lucky mafia hit overnight +1 good mafia player point to whoever picked Sword out properly. Mafia can't earn a majority until a really late game situation. Biggest thing we have to worry about now is the jesters. Is there any good way to avoid killing them during the day? Other than KoopZ who had really Jestery actions yesterday? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 01/31/11 at 19:34:17 Let's not get close to someone getting lynched this early. Don't want a jester to do a quick vote and make us lose. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 19:35:23 Jesters aren't allowed to vote for themselves, Sportsguy. (A jester killing another jester would make the voting one lose!) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 19:37:17 4E74536F66734640686863536F6E6960070 wrote:
how is me wanting a lynch really "jestery"? i explained why i wanted a lynch, and darius gave very good reasons too why a lynch would be a good idea, but we got shot down. i went with it at the very end simply cuz i was tired of being accused as a jester. can you defend yourself against my accusations? why were you buddy-buddy with sword? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 01/31/11 at 19:41:17 142E09353C291C1A323239093534333A5D0 wrote:
Are the jesters not on the same team? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 19:41:57 I was buddy-buddy with Sword because he agreed with me that not lynching anyone was the safest play. What sense would it make to publicly associate myself with someone if I knew they were part of the opposing faction? Yesterday MVT cleared himself as not mafia by not realizing he had to post a fruit or vegetable until someone told him. Since he was the only person who hadn't noticed, it was a pretty solid clear as his partner would have had him slip one in ages earlier. I'm assuming his kill was done by the Mafia faction on suspicion of him being a jester. Sportsguy: Each jester is on his own. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 01/31/11 at 19:44:00 Vote No lynch I up for the one of the vigs to kill the last mafia member during the night and end the game. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 19:49:06 003A1D21283D080E26262D1D2120272E490 wrote:
how come you didnt vote no lynch then, even though you supported it? why wait for someone else to take action? unvote agreed with tyler about not wanting the day to end too early, though i'm still suspicious of scott. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 19:51:59 6A49564B4D4A5E4C40090908390 wrote:
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So you're either the Town Roleblocker or a liar. Anyone else think they are Town Roleblocker? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 19:52:22 2925253A393E2F384A0 wrote:
how is me wanting a lynch really "jestery"? i explained why i wanted a lynch, and darius gave very good reasons too why a lynch would be a good idea, but we got shot down. i went with it at the very end simply cuz i was tired of being accused as a jester. can you defend yourself against my accusations? why were you buddy-buddy with sword?[/quote] the reason why some of us see you as a jester is because you were hinting at your lynch. 6F63637C7F78697E0C0 wrote:
the statement right after the bold is supportive; it's like you're encouraging it. on another note, padz is the remaining scum. looks like he won that challenge scott offered and killed MVT 8-) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 01/31/11 at 19:54:34 02381F232A3F0A0C24242F1F2322252C4B0 wrote:
being able to say that after the fact |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 19:56:09 Calibur: In addition to your specific point there, KoopZ has been extra bold in his attack on me, and almost always had a vote down for someone at all points. The overall effect being to increase voting and hope for lynches by day. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 20:03:21 scott, i did say from the beginning that i had a weird vibe about you. you're not playing the same as you usually do and i dont like it. i dont think padz is scum. he's always sarcastic, and never seems to give a rat's ass about the game. once again! the reason i pushed so hard for a lynch yesterday is so you can see who's got suspicion for who, who removed votes and at what times of day people made those votes. if everyone is voting NOT to vote, you cant hardly learn anything. if people honestly vote for no lynch again today, i just might stand up. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 20:05:29 Koopz, think about it. I have 5 people to vote for. Two will end the game for us right now, two will hurt our chances badly, and 1 will win the game. Why take that risk? If two shooters can take their best guesses at night they have a 3/5 chance EACH to help us tremendously. Only people that want a lynch right now are jesters. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 01/31/11 at 20:10:29 i still want to lynch does that make me a jester ???? :-? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 20:10:57 6E54734F46536660484843734F4E4940270 wrote:
darius wasnt a jester, was he? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 20:13:06 No, but at least one of the vigs or mafia seemed to agree with me that only a jester would play like that. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Sportsguy001 on 01/31/11 at 20:14:51 7A40675B524772745C5C57675B5A5D54330 wrote:
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So you're either the Town Roleblocker or a liar. Anyone else think they are Town Roleblocker?[/quote] I forgot all about making that last statement. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 20:14:56 58696C727D78080 wrote:
no, because you're a cunt. 474B4B5457504156240 wrote:
no, so that makes you more likely to be one. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 20:16:30 i dont think a jester would be playing for just any lynch. dont you think a jester would be trying to blend in more, but still be making his voice heard, and maybe just a tad suspicious? i truly believe a lynch would have been a better way to making more informed decisions today as opposed to no lynch. @ Calibur - i only mentioned my potential lynch cuz i was second in the votes to a no lynch. other than that, i just wanted to see any lynch happen. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 20:18:35 Koopz, other than scott, who would you lynch today? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 20:21:48 Kmacc. in my opinion, he's playing kind of the same way sword did, very under the radar. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 20:23:17 i'm also watching you, cuz you only made a couple of posts on day 1, and plus i've never played with you before. i dont really have an opinion on you though. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 01/31/11 at 20:23:22 unvote vote gaymacc |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 20:24:59 nice edit padz |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 20:26:37 For everyone's information, Kmacc has been listed as viewing the topic almost the whole time today so far (0 posts) and more than just a handful of times yesterday between his last post and end of day. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 20:26:43 what about you calibur? besides padz, who would you lynch? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 01/31/11 at 20:29:17 6B4944414A5D5A280 wrote:
thanks i figured i could condense the joke |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 20:29:43 30363A38385B0 wrote:
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See any similarities? I maintain as I have all along that mafia's best play Day 1 is to NL as well. Should have probably noticed it when Sword said this that it was wrong. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 20:30:04 seeing on how there are still 2 jesters remaining, no one. like scott said, we still have 2 vigs to work with + the nightkill the people I would avoid lynching are you and scott. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 01/31/11 at 20:34:37 if anyone is wondering i would totes lynch calibur if he werent jester |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 20:34:45 thats a possibility i hadnt even considered yet, honestly.... the vibe i was getting from scott was all mafia. and he is playing different this game than he has in the past.... i've got some more thinking to do, obviously. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 20:47:44 Koopz, you do realize there's only 1 town role you could be at this point, right? You're probably not a vig since I'm still alive. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 20:52:28 63597E424B5E6B6D45454E7E4243444D2A0 wrote:
>implying he wasn't roleblocked. tyler is probably a roleblocker since he couldn't lynch him day 1, so he used his night action on him. but legit koopz is jester ;D |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 20:53:57 Thoughts on Kmacc's constant reading and never posting, Calibur? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 21:00:42 To expand on that above post, Calibur, I'm able to see a list of everyone who is viewing the topic and who is typing a reply, each time I refresh. It's listed at the top of the page for me. Koopz and Kmacc can also see this because we're moderators. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 21:03:26 one theory could be that he is mafia and will stay silent/post a couple times today, so he'll sit back and let the vigs do the work at night. in other words, he's hoping town will kill each other off while he just sends in a kill every night to speed up the cause. another theory could be is that he's a jester and is hoping that we will just lynch him to get him out of the way due to his "inactivity." I can't really call it since I have only been observing games since DK maf. this is when he was paralyzed all game and couldn't do anything (thanks to the one and only cunt padz). the theories I listed were the first ones that came to mind, so tell me what you think of them. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 21:05:10 calibur, what makes you so sure i'm a jester? i've got limited mafia experience, and so this is the first game i've seen one with the role. am i playing the way a jester would or something? :-? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 21:08:22 no clue, it's just a gut feeling that's backed up by some of the posts you have made. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 01/31/11 at 21:11:51 Yeah yeah, I'm here. Anyway, about comparing me and sword, remember, I said that no lynching was a good option before he said so, so it's not like I followed along with him. I also voted for it before him, and after MVT, who was townie. So saying anyone who voted no lynch is scum wouldn't make sense. I'm pretty sure I brought a legitimate argument to the table for no lynching. Although it didn't work out as best as possible, nailing a mafia was key, and we could win the game here with a mafia lynch. The odds are against us, but I think we can figure this out. I understand how no lynching again could be a possibility, as the chance of making a better kill would be greater, but we have to assess all of our choices today. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 21:18:51 082A2722293E394B0 wrote:
pretty sure the only post where i even mentioned lynching me was the one i referenced once already when i was in second place. what other posts make you reach this conclusion? (i'm going to try and defend myself if i can... its hard to defend against a gut feeling) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 01/31/11 at 21:19:35 @Calibur: If I were really mafia, being silent and staying put would be such a huge risk for me. Even if it's assumed that I could also be jester and people hold a lynch off of me, I'll definitely be a night target for the two vigs. If I was "the target", both vigs would probably shoot at me and surely one would go through if the plan was to kill me off, and I'd lose. That being said, it would be terrible to assume I'd be a mafia laying low. But I'm here now for a bit anyway, not laying low, so you don't even need to worry about that scenario. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 21:20:36 kmacc, the only reason i called you out is cuz your posts seem (for lack of a better word) so normal. i had to go back thru the rest of the topic to see when and where you posted, cuz i couldnt recall them at all. i'm now no more suspicious of you than i am of anybody else.... |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 21:26:01 42606D68637473010 wrote:
Basically word for word the exact answer I would have given and expected. Do you agree with me if I say that the overall result analysis is that he's likely not a Town member? Koopz: You may as well just give up now. You'll be targeted by at least 1 of the shooters tonight, since it's in everyone's best interest to get you out of the way. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 21:32:12 28123509001520260E0E053509080F06610 wrote:
Basically word for word the exact answer I would have given and expected. Do you agree with me if I say that the overall result analysis is that he's likely not a Town member? Koopz: You may as well just give up now. You'll be targeted by at least 1 of the shooters tonight, since it's in everyone's best interest to get you out of the way.[/quote] it is not in everyone's best interest to get rid of me cuz i'm town. pretty sure i was role blocked last night anyway, otherwise you wouldnt be here talking right now. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 1: Squirrels are Stupid Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 21:37:22 4945455A595E4F582A0 wrote:
encouraging a lynch. 4448485754534255270 wrote:
pushing for a lynch. 5955554A494E5F483A0 wrote:
still pushing for a lynch even though we can (and we did) learn some things over night. a lynch wasn't necessary day 1. 6C60607F7C7B6A7D0F0 wrote:
didn't prove anything here. you went against everything you were pushing for that day by voting no lynch. perhaps you wanted to be suspicious here by going "we must lynch!" to "no lynch?" this leads to... 2B2727383B3C2D3A480 wrote:
yeah, I suppose you're right. you can say you were blending in, made your voice heard, and are acting a tad suspicious. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 01/31/11 at 21:38:51 3C30302F2C2B3A2D5F0 wrote:
Hmm, second person to claim Town Vigilante so far. First one was truthful. I believed it from the start. This one? Gonna be a tough case. Or is that one of those "I'm not actually lying because I'm mafia and really was roleblocked, lol joke's on you!" posts? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 01/31/11 at 21:42:59 4B71566A637643456D6D66566A6B6C65020 wrote:
Basically word for word the exact answer I would have given and expected. Do you agree with me if I say that the overall result analysis is that he's likely not a Town member? Koopz: You may as well just give up now. You'll be targeted by at least 1 of the shooters tonight, since it's in everyone's best interest to get you out of the way.[/quote] 50/50 he is town. 3 townie left, 2 jesters + 1 maf. 4448485754534255270 wrote:
what do you mean by "pretty sure?" if you are implying you are vig, you either sent in a kill or you didn't. if you did, then scott would be dead, unless you were roleblocked. there should be no doubt; there are no bulletproofs this game. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 01/31/11 at 21:44:41 @Koopz: Fair enough. My idea for day one was that the split between lynch and no lynch was kind of he deciding factor on which direction to take for day two, as opposed to normal games where you kill somebody and go from there. It seemed fitting for a game like this where one wrong move and it's over. That's why my posts probably seem very straightforward to the point I wanted, and not trying to cut any corners. I do still believe that no lynch was our best option for day one, even though the night kill doesn't look the greatest. Now that day two is here, I'm all for a lynch as long as we can pinpoint somebody. I don't want to no lynch today, but it would be better than lynching with no lead I guess. But I feel we can hammer something out here. Just wondering (I'm not saying we SHOULD do this, but I want some opinions on the possibility of it being helpful), would it be beneficial to have more role claims? I know it's only day two, but from a quantitative perspective, there's only six of us left. In other games with six people left, usually at least a one or two have their roles known for certain. I'm trying to assess if it would be harmful to do, because if it's not, it can help narrow down a lot of stuff. There wouldn't be much budge for lying about your role, and it could put the mafia/jesters in an awkward position with few roles to claim. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 21:52:09 i dont see how i've been blending in, i've been extremely vocal compared to past games i've played in. i can see where i've been suspicious though, and i've done my best to explain myself, both on pushing for a lynch and my decision at the end of the day to go no lynch. we've only learned from day 1 based on the night kills, not from anything else. unless you're seeing something i'm not. yes, i pushed for a lynch from the get go. even in a game like this, i felt that a day 1 lynch would be most helpful to the town. yes, a chance is involved in lynching a jester, but when we have so little to go on, i felt it would be the best bet to get something concrete in our heads. obviously this was the wrong move as i've just brought a target on my head. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 01/31/11 at 21:54:06 5775787D766166140 wrote:
what do you mean by "pretty sure?" if you are implying you are vig, you either sent in a kill or you didn't. if you did, then scott would be dead, unless you were roleblocked. there should be no doubt; there are no bulletproofs this game.[/quote] poor choice of words on my part. i was role blocked last night. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 01/31/11 at 22:06:18 So Koopz, you're claiming town vigilante then? Anyway, I'm going to bed. I hope to wake up with at least one person's opinion of what I said in my previous post. Right now, I see it could be beneficial for the town. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 08:04:10 393F333131520 wrote:
Well, figured someone else would step up, but apparently no one else around here actually answers questions. I'm still standing behind this earlier explanation, Kmacc. 0F35122E27320701292922122E2F2821460 wrote:
At this point, piling votes on someone doesn't seem like a great idea at all. They're not going to act any different whether they're a mafia or a jester. When either one gets to 3 votes they'll try everything in their power to get out of it, with the mafia's play being genuine and the jester's play a ploy to convince everyone that he is the mafia remaining. Getting 4 votes on one person will be hard! Since he can't vote for himself there are only 5 people to land those 4 votes. The jesters will be hesitant to vote (for that same guy, they will probably start attacking someone else) because they know the guy could be a jester and voting would lose the game for them as well. I'm fairly confident who one of my teammates is and somewhat confident on the other at this point. The other three of you are in trouble! Vote: No Lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 14:36:37 I'm a bit disappointed that nobody really has had anything to say about the idea. People could have been busy throughout today, but judging by the fact that we can all see some of these people are online, I'd hope for an answer, even if it's not long and elaborate. I still hold the floor open to any opinions at this point. @Scott: Even if you are just being cautious today, do you believe having people role claim would be beneficial for town? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 14:48:00 Depends how stupid the 3 non-townies claims are. We'll end up with 1RB/5Vig, 2RB/4Vig, 3RB/3Vig, or 4RB/2Vig claims. If we force RBs to list who they blocked the previous night less people will claim them and real vigs will know if one messes up. If we get 5 Vig claims and only 1 RB then we've got 1 cleared person and the real vigs have a 3/4 chance at hitting overnight. It seems to make the situation trickier for the non-townies, overall. I would only support this move if everyone agreed beforehand to claim. No one can just be mute if we do this. So far we have 1 person claimed as vig, Koopz. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 02/01/11 at 14:48:07 kmacc more like cant play w/o mass claim |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 14:54:02 padz more like needledick more like i'm afraid to support the role claim move cause i'm obvious mafia/jester |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 15:00:42 @Scott: It may be hard getting everyone to go along with this plan. Unless I'm missing something very obvious here, it would be extremely obvious that someone is mafia/jester if they don't want to do it. The most it could do it have people claim the same roles, and ones they don't have. Even if it got to the point where the role claiming got us nowhere due to mix-ups and contradictions, it would: a) Still only leave us in the same place. b) The town roleblocker would at least know the liars if anybody else claimed that role. At worst, mafia roleblocker would know who vigs are and block one, but the other shot could go through if we knew the mafia member and made the nightkill on them. Also, if this did happen, surely more people would claim vig anyway, so the mafia member wouldn't even know who to properly roleblock. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 15:03:34 Who cares if the Town RB knows who the fake one is, the Vigs are the ones that need to know. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 15:08:53 Well the actual town roleblocker would have to call the fake out then anyway. Even if that advantage doesn't happen, it still wouldn't hurt the town in my opinion. Also, the real roleblocker will obviously know the fake(s) is lying. They can roleblock that person at night in case they are mafia. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 02/01/11 at 15:59:33 787E727070130 wrote:
honko did u not factor this into the setup???? the game has been blown wide open!! |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 16:01:46 Hmmmm There was 3 kills last night. 2 possibilities: 3 vig kills or 2 vig kills and mafia kill Now assuming MVT was telling the truth that he wasn't going to use his kill which i believe since he roleclaimed he was a vig and that came back true. Then there was 2 vig kills and a mafia kill. Well Koopz is claiming that he was roleblocked so its highly unlikely that he is a vig. He could be the town roleblocker, but i think Scott is that role. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 16:19:18 Regarding the "three possibilities" you mentioned, Sportsguy, were you as surprised as me to see MVT dead? I figured no town player would go after him, and the only reason I can see the mafia doing it is if they thought he was Jester or something. Mafia likely would have wanted to go for a jester over any town role at that point? Not sure and this is awkward to think about. Whoever killed Darius must have thought he was pulling a KoopZ and Jestering it up. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 16:25:54 I guess the mafia always wants to take out any cleared player so it's either taking out a cleared player OR taking out a Jester, so probably was their best choice. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 17:01:26 @Sportsguy: I thought about that same scenario, but of course we can't completely prove it because MVT can't confirm he didn't make a kill. We can only make the assumption that he didn't make a kill based on what he said on day one. So with that logic, Koopz wouldn't be a vig, or he would be lying about having been blocked. I'm more inclined to agree with the first part, but maybe he has something to say about that. Padz is mafia or jester. If he's town then he's pointless and shouldn't even play in these games, and is going to make us lose. If you assume those two are mafia/jester, who would be the last one? Personally, I'm not too sure yet. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 17:05:09 You, of course. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Honko on 02/01/11 at 17:06:18 Votals [2] No Lynch - Sportsguy, Scott [1] Kmacc - padz [0] Scott - (KoopZ), (padz) 27 hours left. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 17:06:35 tyler's the only other person that hasnt said a whole lot. calibur's been kinda quiet lately too. padz is just being a moron now. my previous feelings on him are starting to change. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 17:10:03 Cool. Why are you still bothering to read the topic, obvious Jester of them all? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 17:22:55 7B41665A534673755D5D56665A5B5C55320 wrote:
i already told you i was role blocked last night. you being still alive is proof of that. if you dont believe that, then thats on you. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 17:35:44 So Scott, you think I'm mafia/jester even though I want to role claim and help possibly filter out some good guys so it can be easier to kill off scum? Why do you think I'm non-town? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 17:37:44 I wish someone would role claim |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 17:38:14 Sportsguy, you're Vig right? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 17:40:18 7B41665A534673755D5D56665A5B5C55320 wrote:
Based on my posts, i think its fairly obvious. I know who i killed last night. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 02/01/11 at 17:41:28 cool stuff koops im glad that ive been reduced to sarcastic troll who is autojester because he keeps it up in the face of shit play d2. in the event of a mass claim town loses. dont be stupid. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 17:48:53 @Sportsguy: Do you actually want somebody to role claim? I wouldn't mind role claiming. It seems nobody wants to do a mass role claim though, as some people couldn't even care to comment on it. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 17:49:16 Okay, so then you're shooting Koopz tonight right? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 17:51:18 5C6D6876797C0C0 wrote:
We have an RB and two shooters so a kill on a chosen target is guaranteed and even splitting up the shots is pretty good if we know you're the mafia guy left. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 17:52:18 I wish someone would counter-claim against Koopz. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 17:54:24 or against me. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 17:54:45 I shot Darius last night Sportsguy. So you took Sword? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 17:55:01 Sportsguy, maybe nobody can counter-claim against Koopz right now because they aren't here? (Calibur) I don't know, it's possible. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 17:55:54 40464A48482B0 wrote:
Ha, perfect timing. So you're claiming RB. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 17:57:48 78426559504570765E5E556559585F56310 wrote:
I did kill sword. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 02/01/11 at 18:01:15 58624579706550567E7E754579787F76110 wrote:
We have an RB and two shooters so a kill on a chosen target is guaranteed and even splitting up the shots is pretty good if we know you're the mafia guy left.[/quote] enjoy your loss |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 18:01:41 @Scott: Yes, indeed I am the town roleblocker. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:05:16 Would you agree with me if I said I think Calibur is the RB? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:08:15 That post that accidentally got made into its own topic for a few minutes was because I rebooted my computer and when it booted back up I hit post. It was directed at Sportsguy. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:10:33 And I asked Honko's permission before moving it into this topic. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 18:11:39 Idk Scott. I'm inclined to trust kmacc at the moment. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:13:35 Okay, so we shoot KoopZ and Padz tonight since they've both outed themselves. Two thirds chance that one of them is the remaining mafia and if not the next day will start with 1 vig, 1 rb, and 1 mafia (or 2vig 1 maf) so voting NL again wins it since RB will know for sure who the mafia is since you and I are the two vigs. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:15:08 Whichever of Calibur/Kmacc is the real RB just blocks Padz since he's the mafia. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 18:20:12 Vote: No Lynch The others aren't going to want to vote for this assuming both of you two (Scott and Sportsguy) are telling the truth, because they will know that we've found them out to be jesters or mafia. I don't quite know which of them is definitely mafia, but I can block Padz. He's a needledick anyway. @Scott: The mafia member can roleblock though, so one of the kills probably won't go through.. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:20:26 That's why our RB is RBing him, Kmacc. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 18:21:14 Unvote |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:21:45 Is there any way a Jester can win other than "last man standing" at this point? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 18:22:36 But that's assuming I block the correct person (the mafia member), as opposed to a jester. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 02/01/11 at 18:22:36 no the only way jester can win is if hes last man standing |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:26:25 That's what I thought, padz. In addition Jesters will be trying to keep whoever they think is mafia from being shot at. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:33:08 74727E7C7C1F0 wrote:
Just got confirmation that if the Town RB chooses to block the Mafia RB, the Mafia RB cannot kill anyone OR stop any kills from happening. So if our RB blocks the right person, both night kills will happen as planned and no Town players will die. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 18:37:35 That means I would have to block the right person, so my options: Padz: Acting like a needledick. He's acting like he could be mafia making believe he's a jester by being stupid and trolling and calling suspicion upon himself. Could be reverse psychology. Koopz: He was under suspicion earlier in the game for being jester, so I think that's the more likely position for him. Calibur: He had a strong stance on no lynches, which would be counterproductive for a jester, so he could possibly be mafia. What do you think Scott? And what about you Sportsguy? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 18:39:46 I think Calibur or Koopz is the last mafia member |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:40:33 The other side of things is from Calibur's perspective: Block Kmacc because he agreed with Sword on Day 1 that NL is BAD for mafia. Only two to say that. Block Koopz for no reason because he's Jester and clearly has been since Day 1 and I shot Darius because he was Jestering even harder than KoopZ at the time. "Oops" Block Padz because he's trying to give off this air of Jesterism and claiming town loses with a mass claim. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:44:57 Padz is my #1 choice for the real RB to go after. But perhaps that's what he wants us to do? We'd kill him along with it so probably not. What is the worst that could happen for Town tonight? Kill 1 Jester and other Vig is blocked, leaving town with 1 RB, 1 Vig, against 1 Mafia and 1 Jester. Probably wouldn't know who is who at that point, but the RB would know who WASNT Mafia. So how about we double up on one person and have the RB block the other? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 18:52:45 Thanks for unvoting, btw, Sportsguy. Calibur needs another chance to speak before someone ends this. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 19:15:40 unvote vote No Lynch (dont remember what i voted before, if anything) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 19:16:49 Unvote |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 19:23:22 unvote I'll do it as well, just to ensure we hear from Calibur. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 19:29:09 sup, going to read over the past 2 and half pages |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 19:50:20 09331428213401072F2F241428292E27400 wrote:
that didn't surprise me one bit. if MVT was killed overnight that solidified my stance on padz and/or sword. those two believe that MVT is best mafia player on this board, and from what i've observed over the past months watching these games, I agree. that being said, they would get rid of their biggest threat first. anyway, this is what we have: Koopz: Claimed Vig; Was roleblocked Sportsguy: Claimed Vig: Shot Sword Scott: Claimed Vig: Shot Darius Kmacc: Claimed RB: if you roleblocked someone tell us who (unless you did say who and I skipped over it) We all know my stance on koopz, so obviously I think he's lying with his vig claim. padz is the remaining the mafia so shall I block him? Kmacc: if you roleblocked koopz, say so now. if you didn't, koopz is jester. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 19:52:49 Sportsguy, you still around? Should we randomize our votes or try to use specialized knowledge that only the two of us share to tell each other who we're going to each shoot at tonight? If we're splitting our kills we shouldn't let them know who we're going after, but if we're both shooting the same person then we should let our RB know so he can block the opposite. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 19:58:22 I think we have to go after koopz and padz. Calibur should have immediately went against kmacc, but he didn't. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:01:33 What specialized knowledge do u have in mind? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:02:05 unvote vote Sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:02:44 Well we both went to the VA Meet lakehouse, could easily just say "If .... then do this, otherwise do this" |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Honko on 02/01/11 at 20:03:37 Votals [1] Kmacc - padz [1] Sportsguy - KoopZ [0] No Lynch - (Sportsguy), (Scott), (Kmacc), (KoopZ) [0] Scott - (KoopZ), (padz) 24 hours left. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:06:38 I roleblocked MVT last night, but was roleblocked myself. Reason being: I wasn't quite sure of who to block to be honest. MVT claimed vig but said he wasn't shooting. I blocked him to be cautious, in case he could have been mafia and saying he wasn't shooting so he wouldn't be roleblocked, and then gotten a kill through. And since he was vig and assuming he wasn't going to make his night kill, it would have done no harm. Like I said, I was roleblocked though, so what I did had no affect. That's why I couldn't make a counter-claim against Koopz right away for him being roleblocked. If my block had gone through on MVT and there was still three deaths, I would have known that Koopz was lying. Because if I did block MVT, only two vig kills would have gone through, plus mafia kill, equaling three. Koopz being blocked would have meant there were only two kills if he was vig. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:07:42 If we threw baseball i will use my kill on Padz, if not i will kill koopz. Understand? Edit: The grammar is bad. Had to fix. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:09:24 Also Calibur said he would block Padz? Maybe he can do that if he's mafia roleblocker. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:09:36 Can't remember for sure! How about you kill Padz if you played SMK against Wonn in the glass room (the one with all glass doors on the walls) and Koopz if you did not. That one work? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:11:06 I got it. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:11:22 50565A58583B0 wrote:
yeah, i'm implying you're the 2nd jester. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:12:30 Well, I'm town roleblocker. So you're obviously wrong in your assumption. If you are really town roleblocker, what were your actions last night? I already told mine. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by padz on 02/01/11 at 20:12:56 this is retarded, everyone knows calibur is the other jester |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:14:51 I roleblocked padz, certainly that much would be obvious. padz still sore from me nailing him in my first post ;D |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:14:55 Okay, Sportsguy. Should I shoot the same guy as you or the opposite? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:15:08 i still dont know why everyone is claiming me as a jester. you'll notice how i never actually claimed vig, i just said i was blocked. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:15:29 I think opposite. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:16:00 565A5A4546415047350 wrote:
What else would you be? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:16:04 414D4D5251564750220 wrote:
you said that if you weren't roleblocked that Scott wouldn't be here. doesn't that imply you are vig? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:16:15 4C40405F5C5B4A5D2F0 wrote:
Your mafia then. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:17:25 @Koopz: So are you saying you're not a town vigilante then? @Calibur: If you really did roleblock Padz, then you're mafia. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:19:49 so you're saying that Darius roleblocked you. why would he do that? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:20:40 or that Sword did, but you guys were on the same path on day 1. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:22:08 @Calibur: Or the other mafia member could have role blocked me... Was that you? Darius was opposed to my view, so he could have blocked me because of that. I have no idea who blocked me obviously or why they did so. All I know is that you're lying, and I'm town roleblocker. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:24:33 darius blocked me, MVT lied and used a kill after all. scott was going to be the night kill. my vote on tyler is purely cuz its tradition. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:24:53 what astounds me the most is that you were the one that wanted us to roleclaim. were you really trying to be the first to get a roleclaim in so whomever counterclaimed would be deemed as scum? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:25:51 I'm second guessing myself Scott on the answer. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:26:34 2529293635322334460 wrote:
Who did MVT kill???? I killed Darius and Sportsguy killed Sword. Who does that leave? MVT didn't kill himself. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:27:43 thats what i think happened anyway. i never counted on MVT not using his kill, he's too good of a player to not take advantage of his reads on people. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:28:10 What are you claiming, Koopz? Mafia RB? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:29:15 what makes you so sure tyler's telling the truth? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:30:12 Search for Tyler's post where he suspects I'm Town Roleblocker. The rest of the content in that post would only be made by a vig. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:30:38 since you guys are all so sure of this... yes, thats what i'm saying. i'm the only team member left, i've done what i could to try and get things going in the direction of general mayhem (my main reason for pushing so hard for a lynch). |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:31:35 i think calibur and padz are the jesters. it seems the kind of thing honko would do to padz anyway, given his nature. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:32:06 16352A37313622303C757574450 wrote:
If it would be painful to walk among the trees barefoot, kill Padz, if you could easily walk among the backyard trees barefoot, kill Koopz. How's that one sound? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:33:04 @Koopz: There's no way you would know this information. You wouldn't know that Darius was the one that blocked you, if you were blocked. You wouldn't know that MVT made a night kill. You're so obviously lying. Unless of course, you're mafia and made the mafia kill, which was blocked. But that's not helping you very much now is it? Jester/Mafia @Calibur: I gave everyone HOURS to take in my suggestion and implement it if they so desired. Anyone could have come in at that time and role claimed way before me as the town roleblocker, so obviously I was not out to claim it first. If that were the case, I would have role claimed right away without even suggesting mass role claims. It was what, like 16 hours from when I proposed the idea, to when I roleclaimed? Estimated, but yeah I think that would be plenty of time for somebody to take the town roleblocker claim if they so desired. You scum may have probably been scared though, knowing I could have been town roleblocker and waiting to catch you in a lie, and maybe that's why nobody did anything about role claiming it. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:33:16 4844445B585F4E592B0 wrote:
So you want us to kill you at night? If we doubleshoot you you're guaranteed to die unless Town RB is not playing for the town. As soon as we kill you the game is over. We will not be lynching you under any circumstances. Either a mafia no longer playing to win or a jester no longer playing to win, and hoping Mafia prevails. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:36:21 kmacc, i should've said that thats what i think happened during the night. obviously idk for sure, my PM from honko just said that i was blocked. scott, i never said when i wanted to be killed, idc now when you kill me since its inevitable. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:37:52 112B0C30392C191F37373C0C3031363F580 wrote:
If it would be painful to walk among the trees barefoot, kill Padz, if you could easily walk among the backyard trees barefoot, kill Koopz. How's that one sound?[/quote] Not too good. If jimbo wore a Vikings jersey, kill Padz, If he wore a Packers jersey, kill koopz. That sound ok. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:38:31 So we have two people claiming to have gotten PMs at night saying they were blocked. Can anyone other than Kmacc or Koopz either confirm that Honko typically sends BLOCKED PMs or claim they were blocked and did not get a BLOCKED PM? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:40:04 4C6F706D6B6C786A662F2F2E1F0 wrote:
I don't recall him wearing either :'( (though I know which one he'd be typically 10000x more likely to wear) this isn't working out so well lol. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:41:39 5E64437F76635650787873437F7E7970170 wrote:
I don't recall him wearing either :'( this isn't working out so well lol.[/quote] Well i thought i knew the answer to the first one, but there was two rooms with glass doors that i remember. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:42:45 lmao at this secret language thing. kmacc, calibur, what do you two think of them trying to communicate secretly? and where's padz thru all this, i thought for sure he would have something to say. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:43:07 Ahh, well I know where you played SMK with Wonn. If it was in a room with 1 large TV and a big couch with walkout doors leading to the deck where the fridge is, kill Padz. If it was the room with several glass doors that no one ever walked out and had the TV sitting on a glass table, kill Koopz. How's that sound? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:43:31 70767A78781B0 wrote:
Is it being scared, or is it being cautious about what could happen and hoping to not make a big mistake? Not everyone wants to go out claiming what role they are; once you claim it's out there and there's no taking it back. a player doesn't have to roleclaim in order to do what is best for town. even if someone lies about a claim, the player that actually has the role can still listen to what town is saying to do overnight if they so desire. the reason I roleclaimed is to show that you are lying. and even if koopz is claiming to be mafia, that could just be his way of hoping to get himself lynched and winning the game for himself. like scott, don't lynch him. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:45:07 3438382724233225570 wrote:
I don't really care, aslong as they understand each other. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:45:19 4A70576B627742446C6C67576B6A6D64030 wrote:
Sounds good. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:46:54 calibur, what are they gonna do about you, you think? you're the other jester, assuming kmacc isnt lying. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:47:11 They're just trying to communicate what they're gonna do, that's all. It's not like I think they're lying. a) I know I'm town roleblocker b) Calibur is trying to counter-claim me (But I obviously know he's lying), and if he was vig, doing this stuff would not make sense. c) You (Koopz), put up a pretty weak argument for being vig, so I don't think you are one. d) Padz just doesn't care, should counter-claim if he were vig. He seems not to be though, as he doesn't seem to care in general. So I'm inclined to believe Scott and Tyler are indeed the vigilantes, and just trying to communicate. Don't try and sway me. And I'd lol if Padz was mafia and just sitting back. Koopz and Calibur are digging themselves bigger holes. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:48:12 scott and tyler, have you considered for a minute that the other person might be lying, and is actually the other jester? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:49:36 I haven't and I won't. I've chosen my running mate and I'm sticking to it. He showed he was a vig before he claimed and I wouldn't have had to ask to be just as sure. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:49:41 4E42425D5E59485F2D0 wrote:
they will go for you and padz. I'm not the issue here. you're jester and padz is mafia. even if you truly are mafia, seems like you're dead either way and town wins since padz is the other target. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:50:14 you know that tyler is a very good mafia player though. what if you're mistaken? what if he's just been playing you this whole time? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:50:30 That's the plan, Calibur, but it hinges on the RB hitting the right guy! |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:51:07 Calibur, the reason you role claimed town roleblocker is because both the vigilantes are basically confirmed, and you had no other role to claim from that point. Of course you're gonna role claim my role at this point, it's the only thing that can save you. Claiming mafia or jester is obviously stupid, and claiming town vigilante would be a more obvious lie to them. @Scott, Tyler: Who should I block tonight? Koopz or Padz? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:52:49 one of the first things i've learned since playing this game is to never trust anyone, and here you all are, putting the most blinding trust i've ever seen. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:53:15 @kmacc either is fine with me. Personally i think Koopz is mafia. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 20:54:45 @Sportsguy: That's what I figured and was leaning towards. @Koopz: Of course you can't trust anyone fully ever, but it's a lot easier to follow a path with people that have more factual evidence of their claims than people just rambling on at this point. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:54:58 I'd lean toward Padz, so just take your pick, RB. Calibur: If you are the actual RB, block Kmacc, of course. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:55:45 546E49757C695C5A727279497574737A1D0 wrote:
lol, you would tell him to block someone that you dont even think is the other mafia player? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 20:56:26 5E58545656350 wrote:
there are no facts though, only claims. you're a better player than i am, surely you see that this is the case. you're choosing to believe their claims over mine. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 20:57:32 717D7D6261667760120 wrote:
If you remember the beginning of today, I linked Kmacc and Sword because they both claimed NL D1 is bad for mafia, which is wrong. My two suspects are Kmacc and Padz for mafia while Sportsguy thinks they are Calibur and Padz or something. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 20:57:34 4D4B474545260 wrote:
>implying you didn't go for roleblocker since it was the only role left. your arguments can be fired right back at you. there was no need for me to claim vig since I'm not. you didn't counterclaim as vig since sportsguy and scott did already, so as I stated earlier, you went for the last thing open. what would of happened if I claimed roleblocker first? would anything change? would I still be considered scum? doesn't make sense because you are saying I'm scum since you claimed first and are the "real roleblocker." |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 20:57:46 Give it up koopz. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by KoopZ on 02/01/11 at 21:01:51 i'm still voting for you tyler. i'd be breaking the rules if i did that anyway, and i dont really wanna go out as a modkill. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 21:03:33 @Calibur: Nobody else is confidently considering you as mafia/jester except for me. That's because I actually know you are indeed lying. I'm not saying your scum because you claimed second, I;m saying you're scum because you know as well as I do that I'm telling the truth, which makes it obvious that you're lying. And I was for claiming earlier, but nobody cared to respond much to my option so that's not my problem. I didn't see you chime in on it with any opinions at all. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/01/11 at 21:05:03 Are we ready? Vote No lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/01/11 at 21:06:00 Vote: No Lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Kmacc on 02/01/11 at 21:08:01 So, I will be blocking Padz or Koopz, that is to be decided. I have a good idea of who I'm going with though. Vote: No Lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 21:10:51 3A3C303232510 wrote:
And I know you're lying. it's just going back and forth aka not getting us anywhere. I was going to give my opinions on the whole roleclaiming thing last night after you posted your ideas on it. I decided not to because I didn't approve of the idea at the time and I wanted to see what others had to say before I gave my opinion. I came back today to check at around 1:30ish to see what others had said, but only scott replied. I was going to respond again but decided not to because I wanted more input from the others + I still didn't approve of roleclaiming just yet. I wasn't going to claim at all, but when I saw you claim I thought I might as well go ahead and counter before people begin thinking I'm scum/jester and allow you to get away with being town. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 2: Squirrels are Ugly Post by Calibur on 02/01/11 at 21:31:34 Well I guess no one else has anything to say. Sportsguy, Scott: Just be sure you guys know what you're doing. Vote: No Lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Night 2 Post by Honko on 02/01/11 at 22:15:01 The day has ended with No Lynch. Send your night actions to me via PM in the next 23 hours. Sooner would be nice, since that would let me start the day a couple hours earlier. The Living 1. Calibur 3. Kmacc 4. KoopZ 6. Padz 7. Scott 8. Sportsguy The Dead 2. Darius - Town Roleblocker (KN1) 5. MVT - Town Vigilante (KN1) 9. Sword - Mafia Roleblocker (KN1) Final Day 2 Votals [4] No Lynch - (Sportsguy), (Scott), (Kmacc), (KoopZ), Sportsguy, Scott, Kmacc, Calibur [1] Kmacc - padz [1] Sportsguy - KoopZ [0] Scott - (KoopZ), (padz) |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Honko on 02/02/11 at 20:14:01 Imagine being killed by a bow and arrow. That would suck. An arrow killed you? They would never solve the crime. Look at that dead guy! Let's go that way... KoopZ is dead. He was a Jester. Scott is dead. He was a Town Vigilante. The Living 1. Calibur 3. Kmacc 6. Padz 8. Sportsguy The Dead 4. KoopZ - Jester (KN2) 7. Scott - Town Vigilante (KN2) 2. Darius - Town Roleblocker (KN1) 5. MVT - Town Vigilante (KN1) 9. Sword - Mafia Roleblocker (KN1) Remaining Roles 1 Jester 1 Vigilante 1 Roleblocker 1 Mafia Roleblocker With 4 players alive it takes 3 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/02/11 at 20:20:57 I got blocked. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/02/11 at 20:25:11 calibur, who did you block? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 20:28:57 I blocked Koopz, and I picked wrong. Damn, so it's down to Padz or Calibur. Tyler, what do you think? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/02/11 at 20:30:37 I think padz. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/02/11 at 20:34:09 i wait for a serious answer |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 20:42:10 Well Tyler, I assume you went for Padz last night as you said you got blocked, and Koopz ended up dead (from Scott's kill). If he was the last mafia, he could have blocked you knowing you were going for him and Scott was going for Koopz, even under your weird communication system. Or he could have just gotten lucky. With four people, we need three people for a majority and a lynch. Since you can't vote for yourself, that would mean that every other person would have to vote for your lynch in order for it to happen (aside from the day's end with plurality). That being said, I think we may have the mafia trapped. If we did want to make a lynch today, the mafia member wouldn't want a vote to go through on himself obviously because he would lose. Also, if we were lynching and going in the direction of the jester, the mafia member wouldn't want the lynch either. That's because the mafia member would still lose if the jester ends up being the one lynched, and town vs. mafia would play for second place. At night, I would roleblock Padz/Calibur (whichever was the one left), and Tyler would make the night kill on him. It would only mean town gets second, but I'm just trying to prove the point that a mafia member would probably not want to lynch. For us as town, it's risky for us to make a lynch as well because there's a 50/50 chance that we lose by lynching the jester. If we no lynched yet again, it would be basically down to me to block the right person between Padz and Calibur. The scenarios would be: 1) If I block the correct one, even if Tyler killed the jester with his night kill, we'd have day four to lynch the remaining mafia member. 2) If I block the correct one and Tyler kills the mafia member, we win. 3) If I block the wrong one, Tyler probably ends up dead we go into day four with me, the mafia member and the jester. That could be chaos. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/02/11 at 20:58:10 So its basically if you role block the mafia member. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/02/11 at 21:01:32 2224282A2A490 wrote:
comedy kevin is maf |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Calibur on 02/02/11 at 21:04:15 0A0C000202610 wrote:
you didn't block anyone simply because you can't. what's even better is that I knew you would come out today saying you attempted to roleblock someone, so I chose to roleblock you. why on earth would you go for koopz when it's so obvious he's a jester? simple: because he was the safe rb claim to go for just like claiming roleblocker was a safe role for you to claim yesterday. you seem surprised that you chose wrong, and now trying to side with sportsguy is even more pathetic. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 21:05:43 The fact that Padz has been trolling the entire game makes me inclined to believe he is Jester, which would make Calibur mafia. I'm gonna reread all this junk and try to see if it makes this a bit more clear. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 21:08:34 LOL @ Calibur, I can't take you anymore with this act. I'll admit, from the outsider's perspective, you may look a bit legit. But I know you're sitting there trying to come up with some witty stuff to write to try and look like you have my role, and you're probably laughing about it as well. I assumed that you blocked me last night, since you're the "real town roleblocker". On the contrary, you probably used your mafia roleblock on Tyler. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/02/11 at 21:21:19 5D5B575555360 wrote:
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 21:33:28 03666766570 wrote:
This was beginning of the game, when MVT called out Calibur because he was just some random person. Even though it's on page one and could just be seen as innocent, it's possibly important to connect that Sword was watching out for Calibur, as they were mafia teammates. 4B2E2F2E1F0 wrote:
Here, Sword goes against both Padz and Calibur, even though one of them is his teammate. He seems to go much harder on Padz though, indicating that they are not together. --- Calibur also seemed to say Padz was scum a lot during the end of day one and day two, if that means anything. Probably pushing the suspicion away from himself, onto to someone who obviously isn't townie at the very least. Calibur was also high on thinking Koopz was jester though actually (one good thing!), so I think he would in fact be highly concerned with knowing who was jester if he was mafia, as opposed to being the other jester. Added onto the fact that Padz is trolling probably because he's jester, I would say Calibur is mafia. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 21:41:40 Tyler, What direction would you like to go today? I figure this: 1) If we no lynch; - That leaves you to do the night actions. I would probably roleblock Calibur since I'm more suspicious of him really, unless you have any reason to believe Padz is definite mafia? This brings up to possibilityies: a) If Calibur is mafia and I get that block correct, he dies and we win. b) If Padz is mafia, you would probably die and it would go into day four with 1 vs. 1 vs. 1. Not sure how that would turn out. 2) We make a lynch. - This leaves us with a 50/50 shot of getting mafia or jester. These are the same probabilities as the first option, with one having us win, but this time, the other definitely makes us lose and play for second, with sucks and we're here to win this for town. With the severity of lynching a jester possible and the punishment much greater than me missing the mafia member at night, I dare say that we (sigh...) have another no lynch today. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 21:48:58 Also, If I blocked Calibur and you still ended up dead Tyler, making the 1 vs. 1 vs. 1 situation, I would know Padz is mafia. I would be voting for Padz, while Calibur would not vote for Padz since he wants to die and vote for himself. Padz would want to vote for me so he could win. It's a really stupid situation. But it's better than lynching jester today and taking second place. Second place is just as bad as last place. @Calibur: If we go with the no lynch idea, you can "use your town roleblock" on me tonight, if you're oh so sure that I'm mafia. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/02/11 at 22:13:06 cool ill just speed up the process vote gaymacc |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/02/11 at 22:42:43 Padz is a needledick. Vote: No Lynch I don't care that we've done it twice already so far. It gives us the best chance to win the game. @Tyler, I'd probably block Calibur at night because I think he's more scum. @Calibur, feel free to roleblock me if you are indeed the town roleblocker. Well I'm out for the night, and probably won't be back until tomorrow evening, unless I get a chance to come on while in school. Tyler, let's make the right decision. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Calibur on 02/03/11 at 00:27:03 roleblock you again? seriously? :-? >implying we can't lynch you right now and end the game. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/03/11 at 09:48:32 Vote No lynch I just hope you roleblock the right person. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Honko on 02/03/11 at 16:27:47 STOP being a bunch of inactive cunts |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/03/11 at 16:48:28 @kmacc I definitely see why you think Calibur is the last mafia member. I still think it is padz though. There is a scenario that mafia can win after tonight. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/03/11 at 17:00:03 STOP not lynching gaymacc |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/03/11 at 17:30:33 Sorry, was in class all day. Finally home now. @Tyler: Yeah I know that, but the 50% chance of messing up and missing mafia better serves us making the attempt at night rather than in the day. There's also another scenario that can possibly happen too that you may have though of, but we'll see how it turns out. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/03/11 at 17:31:40 @Calibur: Yeah, why not? If I was really scum, you'd have no problem with this idea, because it would help town win, would it not? Are you opposed to town winning? It sure seems it. Why would a town roleblocker want to do such a thing to his team? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Calibur on 02/03/11 at 20:52:13 Vote: Kmacc |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/03/11 at 21:03:26 Calibur, it's so obvious that you're mafia. And now you voted me to make it tie, so it goes into a deadlock. If you were really town, you would also have no proof as to if I were mafia or jester, so yu'd be taking a 50/50 shot at ending the game just blindly going for me. You're so obviously not townie, you should be modkilled for how obvious it is. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/03/11 at 21:12:03 if ur so sure calibur is scum why dont u vote for him [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Honko on 02/03/11 at 21:16:00 Note: If the day ends in a tie and one of the tied options is No Lynch, the day will end with No Lynch. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/03/11 at 21:17:03 Because we can just do it at night and be more cautious, just in cause you're mafia Padz. It's obviously the smarter choice. You trying to tempt me isn't going to work. I already told Calibur that he can block me at night too if he thinks I'm mafia. I don't see why he would oppose it, as he would help the town win if he really were town. Obviously he won't do it though because he isn't the town roleblocker, I am. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Kmacc on 02/03/11 at 21:23:44 I'm certainly not changing my position. I'm sure Calibur and Padz won't change their votes off me either (because they're needledicks). @Tyler, just stick with your vote. We'll just have to wait out the next 23 hours or so I guess. If you have anything you wanna say or bring to the table, I'm all ears. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/03/11 at 21:28:31 3A3C303232510 wrote:
wow u saw rite thru me DANG |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Calibur on 02/03/11 at 22:36:59 34323E3C3C5F0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/04/11 at 15:29:44 Yawn |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by padz on 02/04/11 at 17:42:19 gee, it sure is boring around here |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 3: Squirrels are Hoarders Post by Honko on 02/04/11 at 18:15:19 2 hour lefts. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Night 3 Post by Honko on 02/04/11 at 21:14:48 The day has ended with No Lynch. Send your night actions to me via PM in the next 23 hours. Sooner would be nice, since that would let me start the day a couple hours earlier. The Living 1. Calibur 3. Kmacc 6. Padz 8. Sportsguy The Dead 4. KoopZ - Jester (KN2) 7. Scott - Town Vigilante (KN2) 2. Darius - Town Roleblocker (KN1) 5. MVT - Town Vigilante (KN1) 9. Sword - Mafia Roleblocker (KN1) Final Day 3 Votals [2] No Lynch - Kmacc, Sportsguy [2] Kmacc - padz, Calibur |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by Honko on 02/05/11 at 16:43:33 They're dropping like batshit. Kmacc is dead. He was a Town Roleblocker. The Living 1. Calibur 6. Padz 8. Sportsguy The Dead 3. Kmacc - Town Roleblocker (KN3) 4. KoopZ - Jester (KN2) 7. Scott - Town Vigilante (KN2) 2. Darius - Town Roleblocker (KN1) 5. MVT - Town Vigilante (KN1) 9. Sword - Mafia Roleblocker (KN1) Remaining Roles 1 Jester 1 Vigilante 1 Mafia Roleblocker With 3 players alive it takes 2 votes to lynch. Day ends sometime. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/05/11 at 16:56:56 Vote Padz |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by padz on 02/05/11 at 17:17:04 i have no regrets |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by padz on 02/05/11 at 17:23:35 whats the matter calibur? 2nd place not good enough for ya? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by padz on 02/05/11 at 17:49:09 vote No Lynch |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/05/11 at 18:26:56 Come on Calibur, vote for padz. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by Calibur on 02/05/11 at 20:13:14 It should be obvious as to why I'm not. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by Honko on 02/06/11 at 12:50:17 Day ends in 6 hours. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 4: Squirrels are Wankers Post by Honko on 02/06/11 at 19:16:16 The day has ended with No Lynch. Send your night actions to me via PM in the next very small number of hours. The Living 1. Calibur 6. Padz 8. Sportsguy The Dead 3. Kmacc - Town Roleblocker (KN3) 4. KoopZ - Jester (KN2) 7. Scott - Town Vigilante (KN2) 2. Darius - Town Roleblocker (KN1) 5. MVT - Town Vigilante (KN1) 9. Sword - Mafia Roleblocker (KN1) Final Day 4 Votals [1] No Lynch - padz [1] padz - Sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by MVT on 02/06/11 at 20:08:53 My thoughts on this game... http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0060-0807-1220-5847_A_Beat_Up_Man_Waving_the_White_Flag_of_Surrender_clipart_image.jpg |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Honko on 02/06/11 at 20:08:58 Sportsguy is dead. He was a Town Vigilante. Calibur has been killed in endgame. He was a Jester. Padz and Sword win the mafias. Details after I eat. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by padz on 02/06/11 at 20:16:39 i thought kmacc really deserved the win and wanted to help tyler out, but 200B0C100D620 wrote:
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Honko on 02/06/11 at 20:19:46 Night Actions MVT does nothing. Scott kills Darius. Sportsguy kills Sword. Darius blocks Kmacc. (fails - blocked by Sword) Kmacc blocks MVT. (fails - blocked by padz) Sword kills MVT. padz blocks Kmacc. Sword blocks Darius. ----- Scott kills KoopZ. Sportsguy kills padz. (fails - blocked by padz) Kmacc blocks KoopZ. padz kills Scott. padz blocks Sportsguy. ----- Sportsguy kills padz. (fails - blocked by padz) Kmacc blocks Calibur. padz kills Kmacc. padz blocks Sportsguy. ----- Sportsguy kills padz. (fails - blocked by padz) padz kills Sportsguy. padz blocks Sportsguy. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Kmacc on 02/06/11 at 20:26:38 I had the plan to help the town win, but I just didn't execute when it mattered most. I take full responsibility for town not winning. Padz did really have me fooled though, I thought for sure he was jester. I guess I got too caught up in arguing with Calibur. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/06/11 at 20:27:56 Welp. I was sending Honko my thoughts as we went along. About half of it was way off the mark and the other half was spot on. If I ever find the effort I'll post the logs. Darius/Koopz night one was a tossup for me since they both played the exact same game the first day. Koopz could be nothing other than a jester by the second night but I didn't want to double up shooting padz. Actually almost took out Kmacc there because I still felt like Calibur seemed more of a town player at that point. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by MVT on 02/06/11 at 20:29:50 I've been killed night 1 in each of the last few games I have played with this community. Brutal. Not much I could have done more in just a day. I knew padz was scum after the first day. Town was retarded using complicated plans and no lynches after d1. Me and scott talked and pretty much had the game figured out after he died and had padz pegged as obv maf. Not to mention Calibur's weird decision making and posting all game long...not to mention very low activity after d2...I'm getting a bit tired of having to watch idiot teamates play the game after dying right away every game. Padz should have been lynched d2 after some really shitty posts. Kmacc blocking Koopz at night2 over padz also may have been the absolute dumbest decision I've ever seen after Koopz literally admitted he was a jester in a post. Somehow kmacc managed to guess wrong AGAIN n3. Padz said it best in one word... 5B6A6F717E7B0B0 wrote:
comedy[/quote] That's really all I have to say about the entire game. I suggest waiting a while maybe a month or two before the mb themed game. Also a good cast should be assembled. Not people giving up like Koopz and clueless 1st time players like Calibur. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by padz on 02/06/11 at 20:42:22 goose got all gay over bretts shit and etch wasnt around to notice the game was going on until d2 dont know how you expect a better roster w/ 16 players minimum and no honkos |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by KoopZ on 02/06/11 at 20:45:01 excuse me, i didnt give up, but i'd clearly been outed so i was doing the best i could to keep trying to sow some type of confusion. worst played game ever, on my part. [smiley=dead.gif] and wtf with kmacc's block choices. if i was so obviously jester, why was i blocked? jesters had no night actions to speak of. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Kmacc on 02/06/11 at 20:46:45 Well when you're in game, someone trying to look like an obvious jester, or jester look like an obvious mafia is very deceptive. Koopz could have tried to look like obvious jester to avoid dying because he was mafia. When you're playing, you don't know this stuff. I knew I screwed up, but it's not like I sucked, as there have been other games I've played in where I was arguably the best player. Just didn't get it done this time, that's all. Anyway, good game everyone. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Honko on 02/06/11 at 20:47:28 4F7E7B656A6F1F0 wrote:
maybe we could get flo to host |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by MVT on 02/06/11 at 20:48:29 282E222020430 wrote:
Koopz admitted he was a jester flat out. Not sure how much more obvious it could have been? :question |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by KoopZ on 02/06/11 at 20:51:33 i guess i'm just glad i wasnt "obviously jester" to everyone, and still made people think.... ah well. next time i'll just try not to make a fool of myself. :P |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Kmacc on 02/06/11 at 20:58:04 So if someone says flat-out that they're jester, then town will say "Oh, let's not lynch him because we'll lose. And since he's jester, we don't have to worry about his night actions either, so don't bother blocking him." And then it turns out he's lying and that he's mafia and wins. Just because someone obviously seems jester doesn't mean they are; I like to think people play with smarts and strategy when they play, and aren't just outing themselves. Maybe if I play again, I'll just imagine everyone being retarded and having far superior intellect to myself, while blindly believing everything they tell me. If that were case, we'd all win on day one because there would be no mafia members to kill, cause we're all one big happy town. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by MVT on 02/06/11 at 21:02:08 I dunno man. I saw padz as obv maf and koopz was obv jester. Calibur was confusing as fuck and played like shit. I dunno how you picked wrong twice so you also played like shit. Sportsguy played a great game though. Scott also used a lot of good reasoning and played a good game. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Honko on 02/06/11 at 21:06:10 MB-theme game will begin on March 11th-ish, btw. So be back here around the start of the month if you plan on signing up. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Kmacc on 02/06/11 at 21:10:14 I thought Padz was more of an obvious trolling jester, so that's why I picked Koopz over him, although I thought he was jester as well. I though Calibur was mafia really, but I was supposed to block either Padz or Koopz, so I did. And if Calibur was confusing and he was a jester, wouldn't that actually mean he played well? He's supposed to be confusing and get himself lynched, so technically I wouldn't say he played poorly. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/06/11 at 21:18:57 25232F2D2D4E0 wrote:
In this particular case I felt it was pretty clear Koopz was a Jester, but yeah in general that's how a mafia would have played, look at padz this game. Pretty surprised both town people used their blocks night 1. I guess it could help in claiming things later on but it seemed like a mass carnage night was best for town at that stage. Every kill did go through though so it didn't matter. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Brett on 02/06/11 at 23:16:55 Padz played well, but it was super obvious that D4 or 5 or whatever that last day was that he was mafia. Only because Sportsguy voted for Padz and Calibur didn't go for the no lynch. Had Calibur been mafia, game would have been over with a no lynch, so I knew he had to be the jester. I thought Padz was jester until that point. I don't get why Calibur decided to choose the mafia to win the game though. Had Calibur voted Padz, town would've won. Also Kmacc, why did you block MVT on N1? He was like the most obvious townie I've ever seen. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Calibur on 02/06/11 at 23:54:38 0E3F36360E3B363F5A0 wrote:
That was the point you stupid cunt. 65636F6D6D0E0 wrote:
1E24033F36231610383833033F3E3930570 wrote:
both kmacc and scott had me wrong. refer to bold in first quote. 7C4D44447C49444D280 wrote:
talk about comedy, let alone contradiction 5A5C505252310 wrote:
^ 1A272A2D3A3C3E32480 wrote:
Town didn't deserve to win. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Ivootjes on 02/07/11 at 03:32:52 Kinda sad game for the jesters, they had no chance whatsoever to win this game. I already expected that with so much power in the night. Maybe that the set up would be interesting when the day can't end with no lynch? |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Darius on 02/07/11 at 04:23:50 I didn't really find this to be very much about mafia, to be honest. When the setup makes the players so heavily inclined towards no-lynch, you can't play the game normally. That's why I don't think jesters are a good role, though. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by MVT on 02/07/11 at 05:59:30 14363B3E352225570 wrote:
That was the point you stupid cunt. 65636F6D6D0E0 wrote:
1E24033F36231610383833033F3E3930570 wrote:
both kmacc and scott had me wrong. refer to bold in first quote. 7C4D44447C49444D280 wrote:
talk about comedy, let alone contradiction 5A5C505252310 wrote:
^ 1A272A2D3A3C3E32480 wrote:
Town didn't deserve to win. [/quote] Whatever dude. Not sure how that could possibly be a contradiction. No point in arguing with a n00b who is trying to imitate padz posting style. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Calibur on 02/07/11 at 10:10:53 7E4F46467E4B464F2A0 wrote:
You truly are clueless. No point in arguing with a brain-dead fool. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by IsThatAGoodTime on 02/07/11 at 10:16:58 I thought Calibur played well. He was a better jester than Koopz. I have no idea what I would have done if I were jester. |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by MVT on 02/07/11 at 17:42:11 15373A3F342324560 wrote:
You truly are clueless. No point in arguing with a brain-dead fool. [/quote] I'm clueless. Ok kid. Whatever. Come back when you have a mafia track record like me. Then maybe you should be allowed to play. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by padz on 02/07/11 at 18:29:37 I was obv. Ok kid. Whatever. Come back when you have a mafia track record like me. Then maybe you should be allowed to play. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by MVT on 02/07/11 at 18:50:35 Well apparently there is a reason I'm killed first nearly every game... 40626F6A617671030 wrote:
that didn't surprise me one bit. if MVT was killed overnight that solidified my stance on padz and/or sword. those two believe that MVT is best mafia player on this board, and from what i've observed over the past months watching these games, I agree. that being said, they would get rid of their biggest threat first. anyway, this is what we have: Koopz: Claimed Vig; Was roleblocked Sportsguy: Claimed Vig: Shot Sword Scott: Claimed Vig: Shot Darius Kmacc: Claimed RB: if you roleblocked someone tell us who (unless you did say who and I skipped over it) We all know my stance on koopz, so obviously I think he's lying with his vig claim. padz is the remaining the mafia so shall I block him? Kmacc: if you roleblocked koopz, say so now. if you didn't, koopz is jester. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Mafia Day 5: Squirrels are Game Over Post by Sωοrd on 02/08/11 at 03:50:10 The reason you were killed this game is because padz did actually have a strat (hoarded) that he intended on using with the town, but he knew that you would see through it and potentially foil it, so he had me kill you just to be sure. He never got to get that strat into motion because a) I died at night and b) Kmacc resorted to the highest level of play possible by getting everyone to roleclaim day 2. If padz wants to explain the strat then he can. Me and padz played a PERFECT Night 1. Roleblocked both the roleblockers, allowing the vigs to make their kills. I actually knew that Tyler was indeed the vigilante on Day 1, however we needed to take the chance that the vigs would screw up so we left them unblocked. Turns out either Tyler got lucky for once or actually had me read very well. (From memory, Tyler has been very unreliable with his vig kills, hence why I left him alone. Jokes on me, I guess) Looking at Tylers night actions it seems he had both mafia pinned from the start. Looks like he played a flawless Night game on his part too. Koopz was obviously a Jester from Day 1. You could see how much he favoured lynch even though it was a bad option. Heck, he even resorted into suggesting you vote him off. What town or mafia player would ever do that? Come on. ;D Kmacc seemed to dictate what went on Day 2 onwards and he made alot of careless errors which is why town lost. Wasn't expecting Darius to die Night 1 either, he seemed very town like, directly behind MVT. The No Lynch thing was annoying as hell, too. I think in set-ups like this it should either be banned or only allowed like once every 3 days or something, since it made it practically impossible for the Jesters to win, and it didn't help the mafia's case either. I honestly don't know what Scott was talking about in the game. No Lynch is TERRIBLE for both Jesters and Mafia. You kept saying that No Lynch was benefitial to mafia, and it really isn't. I found it amusing how he said he agreed with me when I was alive but when I was dead and flipped scum started saying everything I said was flawed. Very interesting! Overall it was a fun game and a very unique one at that. Looking forward to the bigger, more basic game in a months time. [smiley=beer.gif] |
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