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https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl General >> Mafia >> Low-Power Mafia Gamovr https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1280532734 Message started by Honko on 07/30/10 at 15:32:14 |
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Title: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Honko on 07/30/10 at 15:32:14 The usual rules apply. No discussion of the game outside this topic unless your role specifically allows it. No deleting/editing posts. No posting screenshots or complete quotes of your role PM. No posting at night. If a lynch happens and I am not around to lock the topic right away, it still counts as night so stop posting. One new "rule" is that power roles can send me their actions by Email instead of PM if they don't want to log onto the board during the night. Vote like this: Vote: Honko If you want to change your vote, you MUST first post Unvote Votes and Unvotes should be the first things on their lines. If you hide it in the middle or end of a line I will skip it. If votes are tied at the end of the day, day will be extended for up to 3 hours for the tie to be broken. If nobody breaks the tie, the day will end with No Lynch. There is no flavor (characters/theme) in this game. Everyone just has a role. If your role is TOWN Vanilla, your PM looks like this: Quote:
If you have any questions about your role or how the game works, feel free to contact me. The Living 1. Brett 2. Cam 3. Darius 4. Gaff 5. Matt V 6. MVT 7. Padz 8. Web 9. Zwiebel With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. Day ends when someone reaches 5 votes, or in 48 hours. Go! |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by padz on 07/30/10 at 16:01:28 vote padz he is sus |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 07/30/10 at 18:02:02 This won't be easy without characters/theme. Since everyone loves it when I do this, I'll start off with it: 1. Brett - Hasn't posted anything yet, definitely mafia 3. Darius - Hasn't posted anything yet, definitely mafia 4. Gaff - Hasn't posted anything yet, definitely mafia 5. Matt V - Hasn't posted anything yet, definitely mafia 6. MVT - Hasn't posted anything yet, definitely mafia 7. Padz Votes for himself to cause confusion, definitely mafia 8. Web - Hasn't posted anything yet, definitely mafia 9. Zwiebel - Hasn't posted anything yet, definitely mafia Hmmm, this doesn't look good. Guess I'll start with the top of the list. Vote Brett |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/30/10 at 18:19:26 Cam voted for me, definitely mafia Vote Cam |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 07/30/10 at 18:52:13 Glad you decided to show up Brett. ;D Unvote Vote: Darius |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/30/10 at 19:01:14 Lol yeah lets just go down the list right now, I think that is the best bet in order to get people to talk on D1. I never liked to participate D1, but this would usually make me look mafiaish later on in the game so I have to change my style up a bit. Unvote Vote: Tom |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/30/10 at 19:55:57 I really don't give a damn. Who honestly does? Brett you really are the easiest person ever to spot as being mafia. Don't even try to wiggle out of it. You know you are mafia once again. You are easier to read than a children's book. Vote Brett |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Matt V on 07/30/10 at 20:24:12 Lol at every post haing a vote in it. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 07/30/10 at 20:52:14 Except for that one. You trying to make yourself look good? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Matt V on 07/30/10 at 20:58:51 Nope. Vote: Cam Better? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 07/30/10 at 21:07:05 Yep, that's better :) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 07/30/10 at 21:46:02 Wow, glad I stayed up late so I wouldn't be inactive for two days like last game ;D. Lol at votes with no evidence. Vote: Padz He voted for himself, mafia tactic to throw off suspicion. :P |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 07/31/10 at 00:52:01 MVT and Brett are mafia together. You heard it here first. Vote: Brett |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 00:53:13 I think Padz is town, just a gut feeling. I've seen the way he's played the last two games when he was back to back mafia and I think I can already see a change in posting style. Then again it could be a bluff, but nah, I think he's town. MVT isn't even worth replying to, he's probably mafia just trying for the easy townie lynch, and pretty soon he'll be posting long ass posts with tons of aggression towards me in them trying to get me lynched. I'm not mafia this game, I'm a townie. Not that I would say anything different as a mafia. Don't let his aggressive posts manipulate you guys, that's just how MVT plays. Darius, Tom, and Zwiebel have yet to post in the game. Darius and Tom are from the UK I think, and Zwiebel is from Germany. That would mean that the topic opened at 12:30 (1:30 for Zwiebel) AM, and at this point it is 9:52 (10:52) AM, so it's very likely that they just didn't get to a computer by now. I'd like to hear from them before I get back from work though, or they're all mafia. [smiley=dankk2.gif] |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 00:54:15 Heh fuck it, Darius AND MVT are mafia. Unvote Vote: Darius |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 07/31/10 at 01:11:12 Im not usually around on the weekends but i'm here now and now i know i'm in the game i'll try to log in from my phone. Brett seems fairly cool so i'm going to, for now* put him on my safe list. Cam are you mafia? *if he turns out to be mafia, ffs, its day one, i'm not 100% siding with him, just he's coming across as being town atm. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 01:18:00 I have a town lean on Cam, not enough to 100% commit to him yet though. Web seems town, Padz seems town, Matt V seems somewhat town. Tom I think you are town. On that note, that vote on Darius was a bit hasty, I think he and MVT are suspicious for going after me so early in the game, Darius jumping on the bandwagon and MVT for pushing for an easy townie lynch, as I said earlier. I'm gonna place my vote on Zwiebel atm to at least get him to speak up, I will remove if he makes a legit post. Unvote Vote: Zwiebel EDIT: Yeah it's 8 minutes after my initial post but I forgot to bold the last part. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 07/31/10 at 01:21:42 Darius, why do you think Brett is mafia? Vote Darius (because i think brett is town, i'll remove if he takes his vote off) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 07/31/10 at 01:34:49 He's worried about looking like mafia, showing he's already getting paranoid, and that MVT post is a possible attempt at distancing. Do you disagree? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by padz on 07/31/10 at 01:49:06 5E4C4B4047485D465B181D290 wrote:
actually it was bait to see which maf would be dumb enough to try to draw any kind of conclusion from a joke post you won! 4A7B72724A7F727B1E0 wrote:
this is the only constructive thing to be said so far. glad mvt is actually on the ball. 7C4C5B4A4A3E0 wrote:
everything in bold is fukken hilarious first he tries to pin me as town. i have no idea why he would try to do this especially since there was no 'posting style' to judge in the first place! the only reason anyone would hedge their bets with so little information is that they already know the result. brett knows i am town because he is mafia! then it gets even better--nah guys dont listen to mvt if he pushes to get me lynched i shouldn't have to defend myself you should just ignore him because that's how he always plays!! any smart player would know that mvt's playstyle is an asset, mafia or not. it comes in handy when the day is going slow and nobody has the balls to call anyone out, which coincidentally is when mafia is able to create the most confusion! it's when everyone is of the same mindset that mafia is most able to dominate. then brett says he's town but that he would say this even if he were maf so it was a moot point...why even bother saying it in the first place? its like he thinks that we'll assume he's town because he comes off as considering all the options or something which actually has the opposite effect. you are small-time. unvote vote Brett |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 01:53:48 You voted me before I even made that post, so throw that second theory out the window, it is invalid for your reasoning. Reason I appear to be paranoid is simply because I really don't want to be given a mafia name at the beginning and then for the rest of the days just barely be off of town's hitlist. I think MVT could be mafia, I think you Darius as well could be mafia. You being the more suspicious of the two. MVT makes a post, you instantly back him up and don't post any logic at all at first, and Tom had to ask you about it. Reason I made that MVT post was also more of a warning to the town to not let him get control of this game. Mark my words at the very very least one of you two is a mafia. Reason my vote isn't on you Darius is because we need everyone to participate, and Zwiebel is the only one yet to vote. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 01:55:14 That above post is supposed to be directed at Darius. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 07/31/10 at 02:01:55 padz: what makes MVT's vote on Brett so good? Brett: I said you and MVT were mafia together, I didn't back him up. He gave no reasons for his vote other than "Brett is obvscum". Definite possibility of an early distancing attempt in my book. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 02:03:02 Oh yeah and Padz, a lot of the game of mafia is gut feelings that you get. From your first post I don't think you would have made that joke post if you were a mafia. Besides, in the hypothetical situation that I am mafia, wouldn't I try to make you seem to be a mafia in an attempt to get you lynched? I understand you have to align with some townies which is what I am trying to do. You can listen to MVT and his shit posting style, you can lynch me if you want, this game is dildoes. MVT mainly attacks me because of a personal grudge that he has against me. If you have seen any posts I have made ever you will see that MVT always likes to troll me in order to attempt to get some stupid reaction out of me, pretty pathetic that he does it in mafia games too. Then his mafia buddy Darius defends him and tries to build a case against me, same with you, only difference is you aren't mafia. Apparently MVT doesn't know how to read a children's book. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 07/31/10 at 02:36:33 You ever heard of WIFOM, Brett? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 02:44:14 http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=WIFOM Googled it, this is what came up, I still don't understand it at all. I'll be back within 1.5 hours. Don't lynch be before then, a short day doesn't benefit us in the slightest, and we will have almost no info going into day 2. EDIT: Added the last paragraph in. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 02:49:19 Ok upon reading it a second time I think I understand what it is, but what does this have to do with this particular game at this particular time? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 07/31/10 at 02:52:18 It helps if you watch the Princess Bride clip. Basically it's a circular line of thought that has no logical conclusion. So, as you helpfully provided an example, I'll use that: 1. Brett claims he can't be mafia because if he was he'd have attacked Padz. 2. But what if Brett is mafia and didn't attack Padz because he thought that was what mafia would have done? 3. But Brett might be telling the truth about trying to build alliances within the town. 4. He also might be buddying up to Padz because he knows he's town and he wants to get him on his side. And so on, and so forth. In short, there's no point you saying you wouldn't have done that if you were scum, because you might have done it just so you could say you wouldn't do it as scum. We have no way of knowing. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 04:23:43 1. Well I said that because you MVT and Padz all built cases against me, and if I was mafia, I would try to attack someone that I KNOW is townie in order to possibly get them lynched. Lynching a townie doesn't always make you insta-mafia, townies can suspect other townies of being mafia easy. Reason I am not attacking Padz is because I am town and think he is town. It looks like you are right, it is an endless circle of thoughts, and yeah I am trying to build alliances within the town because I think they are town. I think you are mafia, you don't see me building any sort of alliance with you, right? Maybe me saying that comment about if I was mafia I would have done this wasn't the smartest play, but it's sadly the truth. I have work now, so hopefully I'm still alive. I strongly think the mafia consists of any combination between you, MVT, Zwiebel, and possibly Matt V. I'd be really hard-pressed to vote for anyone else. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 07/31/10 at 05:40:00 Sorry for now showing up yet, but I had a hard day yesterday and was sleeping until now ;D So this is my first mafia game, I don't really have a plan yet of who is mafia and who not, but I guess that is normal on day 1. I have some thoughts, but they're not really based on logic so I guess I won't vote for now. Maybe something I read here will change my mind though in the rest of the day [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 07:18:40 Ok well at least you showed up, I will take my vote off of you now and place it on Darius, as he is still my prime suspect. Unvote Vote: Darius |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 07:31:50 I've read Brett perfectly in past games and I think I got him again, good chance at least. He looks pretty stunned right now, hell I would be too if someone kept reading me like an open book. Brett is mafia, bottom line. Easiest guy ever to read. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 07:50:03 I'm a god damn townie, I don't know what I got to prove it to you. Ok then, if you are so sure I am mafia how about a little proposal: 1. Lynch me today. 2. If I am mafia, MVT is town. If I am town, lynch MVT tomorrow. If you are really a town, you don't have anything to lose by this. So how about it? If you accept I will unvote and vote myself right now and then have a 5th person put the lynching vote on me (assuming self votes count), and then I can't wait to see you shit bricks when I come up town. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 07:50:49 7B5E4D564A4C3F0 wrote:
Except for the fact I'm willing to keep my vote unchanged. 6F5F4859592D0 wrote:
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First day there really isn't much to go on, but gut and this particular gut feeling has worked in past games involving Brett. What better reason should I vote on? Anyway I find people that grasp for straws on day one to be suspicious in general. There will hardly ever be a concrete dooming thing to confirm a mafia on day 1. Just judging by his reaction and how many times he mentioned my name after I posted a very short post accusing him of mafia, pretty much makes me feel really good that he IS MAFIA after all. I didn't think that post would make such an impact, but I figured it could rile Brett up (make him post a lot of possibly incriminating paranoid shit) and further push the %s in the favor of him being scum. Success. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 07:53:52 4070677676020 wrote:
Hmmm.......not Very flawed proposal. So if you really are town you are willing to kill yourself? That's a terrible townie. Much worse than even Christophe or someone that never posted in past games. I have nothing to lose by that....huh? So if you ended up being town I also die and town loses 4 people in the first 2 days. Awesome proposal. Really town beneficial. ::) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 07:54:59 You know I don't like to be attacked MVT, and the one other time that you pegged me as a mafia I was so damn shocked that I didn't post anything the rest of the day, and went into an IRC room with Padz and had him try to help me get out of it (Padz was a mafia that game). The plan that game was to vote you at the last second to push the day into a tiebreaker, worst case scenario I'd be lynched. You don't see me doing that this time, hell if you were innocent and two people (at that time) thought you were mafia wouldn't you try to defend yourself? Especially in a game with 9 people in it to begin? You instantly say I am a mafia, Darius your mafia buddy comes in and bandwagons off of your vote, then Padz follows up with an analysis on my posts. Like I said, if I am town, you meet the noose on D2. If I am mafia, you live to the end unless mafia kills you. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 07:57:49 Well no, the thing is you are a mafia, I am a town. Town will lose 3 people because of 2 NK's (unless someone blocks a mafia, if there is even a roleblocker), and mafia will lose 1, which is you. It's obvious, as I have stated before, you are going for the easy town lynch, and you won't stop pushing for my lynch until I am lynched. Then I get revealed as town, and it puts a HUGE target on your back. You pegged me as mafia once, if you accuse me every single game I will be mafia sometime again. Terrible strat especially considering I have about a 1 in 4 chance of being a mafia. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 08:01:03 It's obvious, MVT doesn't want to make that proposal because he is MAFIA! The logic is simple, he claims I am the easiest guy in the world to read when it comes to playing these mafia games. Then he makes up some shit excuse for the fact that I am town, which he shouldn't be doing if he is this damn confident about me being scum. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 08:01:58 If I agreed to your proposal town could potentially lose the game right here in day 1. That wouldn't be very responsible of me. I do insist on voting for you nonetheless. By the way, past game scenarios mean squat. That really worked out last time with the tiebreaker huh? Of course you try something different now. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 08:09:01 No, last time Clay fucked it up because he didn't read the mafia posts saying what the plan was and voted me within 5 minutes of the end of the day. Can't blame me for that, but that's the past now, and I won that game anyway. MVT is mafia, I think it is very obvious by his last post. I like now how he is backing off hard on my lynch case after I made that proposal. Only reason he attacks me is because he hates me personally, and he takes it to these games. I bet if Cutz was in this game you would be trying to get him lynched. Right MVT? RIGHT? And past game scenarios mean a lot. You can usually tell if someone's playing style has changed significantly from a previous game. Like I said before, if you are 100% confident in me being a mafia, you should take up that proposal, as either way if I am mafia and you accept it puts TOWN in a ridiculous power position as you survive the lynch D2 assuming mafia doesn't take you out D1 for being an obvious townie. If I am townie and you are mafia, it puts my team in a power position. Only way mafia wins is if we BOTH are town, at which point I would absolutely shit bricks. At least ONE of Darius and MVT are mafia, and as of this point I think MVT is the more obvious of the two. Unvote Vote: MVT |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 07/31/10 at 08:12:54 5464736262160 wrote:
Why are you trying to build alliances so early in the game? No one can be naive enough to think they know who's mafia and who's town this early. I find that the first person to take the game seriously almost always turn up mafia in the end, and that is you. MVT's initial "I can read Brett like a book" seems superfluous to me. I also think you are trying a bit too hard to defend yourself. I agree with padz, he had no posting style at all and yet you deciding he was town is very suspicious. However, I don't like the aggression against Brett though, from Darius/Padz/MVT; it seems too sudden. Brett makes the mistake of assuming he knows who's town and who's not, but you three make the same mistake by ganging up against him in the assumption that his mistake is enough to condemn him. Townies can make mistakes, and I'm pretty sure a townie was lynched the first day the last three or four mafia games in a row because of that. Let's not be too hasty. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 07/31/10 at 08:17:04 At this point everyone has posted. I am glad for the small group in the game; we don't waste time waiting for other people to post. I'm not convinced anyone of you (Brett/MVT/Padz/Darius) is mafia/town yet. I'd like to know what Tom, Web, Zwiebel, and Matt have to say though. And I don't need this anymore Unvote |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 08:19:44 4A7A6D7C7C080 wrote:
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Why are you trying to build alliances so early in the game? No one can be naive enough to think they know who's mafia and who's town this early. I find that the first person to take the game seriously almost always turn up mafia in the end, and that is you. MVT's initial "I can read Brett like a book" seems superfluous to me. I also think you are trying a bit too hard to defend yourself. I agree with padz, he had no posting style at all and yet you deciding he was town is very suspicious. However, I don't like the aggression against Brett though, from Darius/Padz/MVT; it seems too sudden. Brett makes the mistake of assuming he knows who's town and who's not, but you three make the same mistake by ganging up against him in the assumption that his mistake is enough to condemn him. Townies can make mistakes, and I'm pretty sure a townie was lynched the first day the last three or four mafia games in a row because of that. Let's not be too hasty. [/quote] I voted for him before he made that mistake. That mistake is just icing on the cake though. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 08:25:19 Well I'm taking a chance. I think MVT is a mafia, I think Darius is a mafia if MVT comes up town. I think Padz is town, I think you, Tom, Web are town. Zwiebel made one entry post I'm borderline on him, same with Matt V. The more I read his post the more it doesn't sit well with me. I have no idea why either. I honestly don't care if it doesn't work out, chances are I will be lynched today as neither MVT, Darius, nor Padz would ever consider a vote change. Tom says he will keep his vote on Darius, which will likely remain for the whole day. You seem subject to go any which way. Matt V's vote on you will probably be removed, and I have no clue about Web voting for Padz. In case anyone is curious since Honko hasn't been here, here are the current votals. I can't be asked to find all the unvotes and write them down. Brett - 3 - MVT, Darius, Padz Cam - 1 - Matt V Darius - 1 - Tom Padz - 1 - Web MVT - 1 - Brett Zwiebel has yet to vote today, I'd like to hear more from the people that just made one post today, as well as Matt V, who made 2 very lackluster posts. One of which was laughing at the fact that every post so far was a vote, and the second was a joke vote on you, which really neither one sits well with me. Could Padz you or Tom be mafia? Of course. You and Tom at least are giving me the benefit of the doubt, which is more than some people can say. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 08:28:09 Yeah MVT, you kinda are backing off. At first you said you could read me like a book then pushed very hard for my lynch, then when I made that proposal, you got scared because you knew if you accepted it you would lose for your mafia team. If you are a townie, you would accept it as you are so damn dead set on me being mafia it ain't even funny. Well...actually yeah it is funny, and I will absolutely die laughing when I get revealed as town. Town will be fucked so badly. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 08:31:07 And besides, if I don't call out people on being mafia who will? I've already explained why I think you and Darius are mafia, you Darius and Padz seem dead set on me being mafia, I've tried to explain that I am town, didn't work. Matt V would probably vote me when he shows up, and at that point with 4/9 votes on me it would be nearly impossible for me not to at least have a majority at the end of the day. Looks like I'm screwed on D1. Oh well, I tried to take a much different approach this game to see if it would work, and apparently it didn't. I still hope the best for us townies though. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 07/31/10 at 09:14:38 Unvote Vote Brett i think its either Brett or MVT. If Brett is mafia then MVT is safe. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 07/31/10 at 09:21:11 Or they're both mafia, hoping to secure one of them as town in this exact manner? Or they're both town playing dumb? I still think it's way too early to make these kinds of assumptions. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 09:27:24 697572707C6E7A652C1D0 wrote:
You have to bold your unvote in order for it to count. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 07/31/10 at 09:39:32 sorry Unvote Vote Brett |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 09:47:40 Heh, well it's over for me, no sense in not claiming my useless role now. I'm just a TOWN Vanilla. It's not the role that saves my ass in the slightest, but that's just my loss. Please lynch MVT tomorrow, I am pretty damn confident that he's a mafia. If he comes back town then Darius is a mafia. Unvote Vote: Brett That's 5, I should be lynched. Lock please. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 09:53:55 Lold whatever. If I die and we lose the game it's your fault Brett. Your defense sucked cock. Edit - On the bright side if his claim is true we got rid of one of the most counterproductive players out there...ever I never heard of a guy actually voting for himself to leave the first day as a townie and wanting to die. All the while not offering ANY DEFENSE AT ALL. Moronic is an understatement. He shouldn't even be allowed to participate in future games. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 10:08:24 Don't try to make yourself look like a townie now that you know I am town, you're a mafia. Lynch him tomorrow guys. And besides I really didn't give a shit about this game once I find out I was Vanilla. Besides I would have been lynched regardless of my vote or not, all that needed to happen was Matt V shows up or someone like that votes for me game over. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 10:11:21 7242554444300 wrote:
Sore loser, crybaby, typical Brett, should never be allowed to play again. Edit - and what the fuck did you expect from the low power game? Edit - and you offered ZERO defense that you weren't mafia. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 10:20:21 1. I didn't think Honko would make ALL Vanillas. 2. Nah you can think what you want, you are a worthless human being anyway. I told you I was a townie. You didn't believe me, fine. I can't wait to see you lynched tomorrow. If you somehow come back town I will hope mafia wins. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 10:24:49 1. Ya just because you are vanilla means we all are vanilla. You think you get special treatment or something? There is no way of you knowing if there are other vanillas or not moronic fuck. 2. lol keep talking. The more idiotic statements you make such as "I didn't think Honko would make all vanillas" and "I didn't really give a shit about this game once I found out I was vanilla" are just KILLING YOUR ALREADY NONEXISTENT CREDIBILITY. Why did you sign up to play at all by the way? Also lmao, ya I'm a worthless human being for playing the game properly. >_> |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 10:31:12 My 1-2 record is better than your 2-6 or whatever the hell you have. I won Pokemafia 2.0, lost Zelda Mafia and DK Mafia. You won Pokemafia 1.0 and LOST Mafia, lost Zelda Mafia, Pokemafia 2.0, DK Mafia, Girl Mafia, Starwars Mafia, and the Where is Everybody Mafia. So yeah I'm the better player. Cya later you mafia fuck ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 10:33:23 Keep posting please. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 07/31/10 at 11:10:58 Okay, sorry for kind of dissapearing it was 1AM when the game started, I just wanted to make sure you guys knew I was playing unlike last game. My vote earlier was a joke vote, like most of the first page. unvote I'm going to type a larger post now, give me a second to re-read. Wait I'm not supposed to be posting since there are 5 votes. Sorry :P |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Honko on 07/31/10 at 12:03:42 Votes for yourself haven't counted since like the third game. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Honko on 07/31/10 at 12:11:15 Votals [4] Brett - (Cam), MVT, Darius, Padz, Tom [1] Cam - (Brett), Matt [0] Padz - (Web) [0] MVT - (Brett) [0] Darius - (Cam), (Brett), (Tom), (Brett) [0] Zwiebel - (Brett) [0] Tom - (Brett) Day ends in 27 hours or when someone reaches 5 votes. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 07/31/10 at 12:28:14 Unvote; Vote: Tom Blatant sheeping onto the wagon with no analysis whatsoever. Setting up a Brett vs MVT scenario looks like lining up MVT for tomorrow's lynch. Brett: seriously, if you react like this every time people throw suspicion in your direction then you really shouldn't play the game. How else are we supposed to get a read on you if we don't put pressure on? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 14:27:46 Watch Brett's gonna turn up scum somehow. ;D This is the last time I ever play a game where Brett is playing though. The kid has no maturity whatsoever and obviously has no desire to even play. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 15:14:48 What the hell more can I even explain????? I've already claimed my useless role, there was really no way to defend myself. I tried, I just am shit at defending myself, I'll admit. This is no excuse for playing terribly, but I absolutely hate being attacked. I figured if I ignored MVT's post altogether, that it wouldn't matter as he would claim he nailed a mafia member because I was deliberately avoiding his post. Believe me, I contemplated avoiding it, I figured it would be worse than trying to defend. It's not just about pressure, you guys were reluctant to back off and you guys almost lynched me 15 hours into the day. Granted my vote on me which I thought counted didn't help that, I just thought it would happen anyway, and that not voting for myself would drag the day out for no real reason. MVT I could have put up a state of the art defense and you'd STILL attack me. That's just who you are. Now that I actually sit and think about it, whenever Tom is town (which is always), he immediately starts off his first post with "I'm town again", or something along those lines. Darius, I'm starting to get a feeling you are town. I think MVT and Tom are the biggest two suspects, just looks like too late for a turn around. And no this is a bandwagon vote, I actually was suspicious of Tom because of his initial post but there were bigger matters at hand for me. Vote: Tom I'll still be stunned if I make it through the day. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 07/31/10 at 15:19:38 Just got in, i think Bretts trying to set me up. I thought he was town but now i think either him or MVT is. Basically i'm going with the (already) majority vote that its Brett not MVT. MVT is usually quite good when he's town so I want to keep him over you till day 2 when we see what shit has or hasn't hit the fan. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 07/31/10 at 15:23:46 You didn't think I was town, if you did you wouldn't have put the 4th vote on me. I thought you were town at first, then I took a look at your first post and you weren't screaming town from the instant, and Darius has a really good point, you come in with no evidence and just pop a vote on me. A lot of people are gonna look very suspicious come day 2. I still think you and MVT are the best mafia choices. EDIT: I'll be back later, if I am still alive. Very busy day today. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 07/31/10 at 16:01:31 I have followed all the things by now and I have to say that I'm still not totally convinced by Brett, he may have done all this to convince us that he is a town, knowing his self-vote would not count. I'm not 100% sure though, MVT seems not that innocent as well, can't really say much other than this, beside the fact that Tom did not complain about his role in the beginning. I will go to sleep soon, but I will keep watching the action in here and I will probably vote for someone soon, but I have not decided yet for who... |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 16:06:28 6656415050240 wrote:
What a turnaround!!! How could you go from Darius being definitely mafia, to Darius starting to look like town? You are all over the place man. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 07/31/10 at 16:20:38 We need cam to come in with one of his huge insight posts ;D (of course unless he's mafia). Somehow he always picks the right people to be mafia. Okay right now Darius to me seems really close to clear. I don't know why Brett suspected him in the first place other than the fact that Darius accused him and MVT of being mafia right away. Almost every one of his posts has been insightful and had something that helps the town. I'm looking back in a second, but did anyone else say that Brett vs MVT might have just been staged? (meaning they were maf partners) At first that crossed my mind, but I think it just seems unlikely. MVT just holds grudges on people outside the board so I think that's what influenced him here. There are still 24 hours left and a lot of people right now could easily be voted. I'll check back in a few hours, for now I just had to put in a few thoughts because I have been gone the whole day driving back from Pittsburgh and didn't want to seem inactive. Typing this whole post from my phone is annoying as hell, but I got it done. :D |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Honko on 07/31/10 at 16:29:11 Votals [3] Brett - (Cam), MVT, (Darius), Padz, Tom [2] Tom - (Brett), Darius, Brett [1] Cam - (Brett), Matt [0] Padz - (Web) [0] MVT - (Brett) [0] Darius - (Cam), (Brett), (Tom), (Brett) [0] Zwiebel - (Brett) Day ends in 23 hours or when someone reaches 5 votes. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 16:45:28 372522292E21342F327174400 wrote:
Well I guess it's clear how little experience you have playing mafia, if you actually believe that. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 07/31/10 at 16:58:01 I was just curious since right away you said he was mafia after one post without any evidence other than the fact that you can read him instantly. It's true that it is only my second game of mafia on the kart boards, but it just seemed you attacked him without any reasoning why. If you could explain a little better than maybe I could understand...is it his posting style or something? I looked at the post but I couldn't find anything, so I guess it's just my lack of experience playing with the MKPP since I don't know the players' tendancies. (Plus my first game was the anonymous one so I had no idea who was who there :P) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 07/31/10 at 17:23:48 I'm still undecided between MVT and Brett and I'm tired, going to sleep now. But Tom's last post made me wonder...maybe he is defending MVT because he is Mafia or because he really thinks he is town, or because he wants to lynch both, first Brett and then MVT? I have a strange feeling regarding that post, and it does not want to vanish... Vote: Tom |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Matt V on 07/31/10 at 18:39:31 unvote Vote: Padz He was under suspicion, then disappeared, and is flying under the radar. Speak up u cunt! |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 07/31/10 at 19:28:57 My vote was a joke vote....are you trolling? ::) :P |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 07/31/10 at 20:40:48 Can we please get rid of Brett? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by padz on 07/31/10 at 21:38:55 brett, not being mafia doesn't make you any less terrible. mafia will keep you around since there's no lynching potential (except for anyone still suggesting he is mafia while he still had some votes on him. timur comes to mind and web still hasn't accepted that brett is town). you're just making it easier for mafia to pin down whatever power roles might exist. not liking how web tries to pin me down over nothing then claiming it was a joke. your last post seems very fake as well. i think you're in league w/ matt. unvote vote Web |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 07/31/10 at 23:29:27 Sorry but it was the first ten posts of Day One. Since when have they ever been serious? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 08/01/10 at 03:16:09 More Tom votes, please. Does anyone know if Brett would already have known self-votes don't count? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 08/01/10 at 07:20:19 darius, are you mafia? you havent really posted much have you? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 08:19:36 Just got in, reading everything now... |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 08:31:44 Going through one by one each person, gonna post them up one at time here as I read. Brett - Obviously, Brett is trying as hard as he can to defend himself. After reading all his posts several times, I'm still unsure. He seems very sincere in his defense, and although he says he doesn't care, the fact that he's posted so much and so long in each post conincides with sincerety. Some of the stuff he's said obviously doesn't agree with that at all, things like trying to vote for himself to end the day early. To me only mafia would try to end the day early. I have this gut feeling that he really is town, even though logically the things he's saying suggest otherwise. The only real concern I have is this: 7A4A5D4C4C380 wrote:
This was before all the long-ass posts with tons of aggression, it's almost as if he knew it was gonna happen. Which suggests to me that lynching Brett may not tell us much about MVT, since the whole thing could be staged. Admittedly, I don't think anyone's pulled that kind of thing off though. I think Brett might be town, even though he defends himself poorly. He should abandon any further defense at this point and focus on other people. After all, if he does come up town, analysis on other people will be more helpful than pages and pages of self-defence. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 08:45:00 Darius - Hasn't posted much, but has been active. HIs efforts seem sincere, and he jumped off the Brett bandwagon to put a vote on Tom for sound reasons. This to me seems town, as he's willing to pressue who he finds suspicious, as opposed to mafia focusing on lynching someone. Town. Tom - Tom's posting like he usually does. Funny though, it almost seems like he's randomly picking people and randomly asking them random questions, like mafia might try to do to make it look like they aren't targetting just one person for a town lynch. "Cam, are you mafia, you seem like you are." "Darius, are you mafia, you don't post much." Strange. I get a mafia vibe from Tom this game |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 08:55:02 Matt - No readings on him, as he hasn't contributed at all. A couple superfluous posts at the beginning, and a random vote on Padz later on. I want to hear more from him, as his inactivity suggests mafia to me. MVT - MVT is very focused on Brett. Check this out: 37060F0F37020F06630 wrote:
I could've sworn at least twice he's expressed this exact same sentiment against someone at the start of the game who did something stupid and ended up being town. MVT was also town both times I think, so that doesn't necessarily make him mafia. I think he should try to not focus so much on his gut reaction at the start of the game, as it's been wrong before. I want to know what MVT thinks of the rest of us, we all already know what he thinks of Brett. I'm undecided on MVT atm. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 09:08:49 Padz - Has only like three posts this entire game. What he's said so far is reasonable, but I'd like to here more from him. Undecided on Padz right now. Web - I get a strong town vibe from Web, his posts seem very sincere. Not much else to go on here though. Zwiebel - Hasn't contributed much, and his posts just seem like summary posts to me. Claims he has some thoughts that aren't based on logic so he's not gonna vote for now? I don't understand how that helps anyone, it seems like a cop out for not posting anything to me. I get a mafia vibe from Zwiebel, though it could just be inexperience since it's his first game. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 09:13:32 tl;dr, Tom to me is the most suspicious as he's been actively posting superficial posts the whole day. Of the main discussion on Brett, I lean towards town on him and I don't think he's the right person to lynch yet and his lynch may not be as decisive on others' status as some of you all seem to think. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 09:16:49 Let me rephrase that, Tom and Zwiebel are the most suspicious to me atm. And Matt needs to post more. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 08/01/10 at 09:40:22 Much relative to who, Tom? I think I've been posting just fine. Cam: there seems to be a logical inconsistency between Tom posting like he usually does and Tom giving you a mafia vibe. Does Tom usually give you a mafia vibe? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 09:44:43 Tom usually posts short posts that are hard to read. In that sense he is posting no differently. However, he is posting differently in that his posts seem random, like he's drawing who he's gonna be suspicious of and what he's gonna ask out of a hat. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 08/01/10 at 09:45:26 4150657266656374436972636C65000 wrote:
Seems you did not read my last post at all, I did vote for Tom already since he is the most suspicious person for me at the moment, and yes I don't really have experience in mafia games, so I'm a bit unsure what to do, especially since it is still day 1 and we don't really have informations at all. I'd like to post some more, but I have no ideas beside all the things which are already said. By re-reading all the stuff twice, I still have the feeling that Tom and Brett could be Mafia, Tom's posts occure strange to me, they are all short(like 1 sentence per post) and they are just accusing someone without reason or going mainstream and accusing Brett. And I as well would like to hear some more of Matt V, I don't even remember what he said in his posts, probably uninteresting or too short to stay in my mind. I'm not sure about webinator as well, from what I have read I have the feeling that he is town, but his posts want to make the impression that he really is active, maybe too active..,dunno, he hasn not posted that much interesting stuff as well. And yeah, this post is probably full of summaries as well, but at least I try to help as far as I can, I'll still leave my vote with Tom because of the reason stated above |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 09:50:43 That post came 12 hours later. It just seemed like you were biding for time. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 08/01/10 at 10:00:41 Terrible first day. I may or may not be around at day's end, most likely not. Figure this out yourselves. Unvote |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 08/01/10 at 10:02:18 12 hours? I don't really get which posts you mean. I had one at 2:00PM, then at 1:00AM and then at 2:00AM. If you mean the 2:00PM and 2:00AM posts, there was one post in between. I don't get what you mean, but I think you probably mean that I was just waiting and doing nothing...and yeah you are right, I didn't know what I should post or do so I just waited and only posted twice before going to sleep. I think if I had posted something, it wouldn't have helped anyone, unreasonable accusing seems not really good on day 1 for me. I told my opinion about Brett, MVT and Tom and that's it, since the rest didn't gave much to work with( except maybe webinator and Darius, but I mentioned webinator in my last post and Darius seems a Townie to me for the moment). The problem is probably that I don't know most of you that good to see if someone's lying or not, I guess it will get easier all along the game, I think I'm already getting better in reading in-between the lines of someone. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 08/01/10 at 10:14:35 Okay, I'm awake and I'll be checking in periodically for the rest of the day while I work on AP summer work. Personally I think Zwiebel is town. His posts sound like he is trying to get reads on people and the confusion he is having is just because he is new to kart mafia. Although that doesn't entirely clear him (last game was my first and I was mafia), I think it helps because he probably wouldn't be talking as much if he was mafia and it was his first game. He seems like each post he is trying to help the town, which I think points him closer to being a townie. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 10:22:49 Perhaps. Nothing concrete to say either way, we'll need to give Zwiebel more time regardless. I think I'll finalize my suspicion on Tom. Vote: Tom |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 10:23:53 What's the current vote count? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by thewebinator on 08/01/10 at 10:31:45 Tom - Cam, Darius, Brett, Zwiebel Padz - Matt V Web - Padz Brett - Tom Not Voting Currently - MVT, Web I think that's it. I'll have a vote in a few hours before the end of the day, for now I need to work on summer work/go on a run. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 10:39:38 Unvote Didn't realize there are now four votes on Tom. I find him suspicious, but not enough to lynch. I think he should come and say more though. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by padz on 08/01/10 at 11:03:22 well i dont mind vote Tom |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 08/01/10 at 11:18:17 fine, i've got a town power role, there isn't much left in this round so i can stand up and say it before i'm kicked out. Fuckwits. Seriously, i've done nothing but go with the crowd cause its the weekend and i've not got the time to read or post properly. Make your minds up from tomorrow when i can spend the time posting. (most of the time posting from my phone atm). MVT and Brett had a spat. I was with Brett but I rate MVT as a town player and so far i think he's legit. Hence me voting for Brett. I'm not sure why Darius is sus - or any of you for that matter. I've nothing to add at this point, i think Brett or MVT is mafia and if one is town then i'll vote for the other. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by The Gaff on 08/01/10 at 11:19:42 p.s you've made me role claim which means i'm likely to get blocked. If there is someone who can save me? Save me. If not then hope you all have any other power roles left (in a low power game). If Brett has roleclaimed and MVT hasn't, maybe we should be voting for MVT instead but i dont want to force him to roleclaim and i'm now in a position where i have to. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Honko on 08/01/10 at 11:25:23 Votals [3] Tom - (Brett), Darius, Brett, Zwiebel, (Cam) [1] Brett - (Cam), (MVT), (Darius), (Padz), Tom [1] Padz - (Web), Matt [1] Web - Padz [0] Cam - (Brett), (Matt) [0] MVT - (Brett) [0] Darius - (Cam), (Brett), (Tom), (Brett) [0] Zwiebel - (Brett) Day ends in 4 hours or when someone reaches 5 votes. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 11:34:14 I think you missed Padz's vote on Tom, Honko. Tom's role claim seems legit to me. Zwiebel still seems sus to me, but no one else seems to feel the same way. Brett doesn't like like a good lynch. Not really sure who to target right now. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 08/01/10 at 11:42:13 He didn't miss Padz' vote, he did not unvote so his vote did not count (I guess). Either a fake or he just forgot to unvote before. I think tom was honest in his last post, so I'll remove the vote from him. unvote |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Camster on 08/01/10 at 12:02:43 Well Tom's got the most votes right now, so looks like he's gonna be lynched, unless something drastic happens in the next two hours. I have to head out now though, so I won't be a part of it. Hopefully you guys are right about Tom. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 08/01/10 at 12:11:59 If Padz' vote doesn't count, Tom has only 2 votes at the moment. I believe Tom that he is town at the moment, so I have to decide between MVT and Brett again, in the hope that we can get a tie to rescue Tom... Vote: MVT |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 08/01/10 at 12:31:28 Here's the problem with Tom's post. He claimed he had a TOWN power role, but that's it. Unless I missed it somewhere in his post, he did not claim if he was roleblocker, cop, vig, etc. Not that any of these are in the game, but if you are about to meet the noose might as well claim what role he has. But no, he pulls the old excuse that he has some town power role, then begs us not to lynch him. Typical mafia ploy to try and seem like a desperate townie. He hasn't offered anything new. And while my defense may have been poor, at the very least I made an attempt to defend myself. Zwiebel, I'm very unsure about you now, that last post sounds VERY mafiaish to me. I might let you off the hook because this is your first game and all, but to me it seems like you are both mafia and you are trying to get a last minute rally to save Tom, and lynch MVT. Granted MVT could very well be mafia, but you could be trying to save your mafia buddy Tom and lynch MVT, which if he is town is probably the most suspicious one, coming in close with me. My vote stands. If Tom comes back mafia this does NOT look good for you Zwiebel. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Honko on 08/01/10 at 12:33:51 Votals [2] Tom - (Brett), Darius, Brett, (Zwiebel), (Cam) [1] Brett - (Cam), (MVT), (Darius), (Padz), Tom [1] Padz - (Web), Matt [1] Web - Padz [1] MVT - (Brett), Zwiebel [0] Cam - (Brett), (Matt) [0] Darius - (Cam), (Brett), (Tom), (Brett) [0] Zwiebel - (Brett) Day ends in exactly 3 hours or when someone reaches 5 votes. I won't be back again until after day ends. Everyone remember to stop posting as soon as night begins, regardless of whether the topic has been closed or not. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 08/01/10 at 12:43:23 Wouldn't that be a bit too obvious if I would do this to save Tom if we both were Mafia? I wouldn't have accused him then in the first place. Well it could have been my tactic, to make at least one of us look like town, but I told you my reasons why I voted for him first, and maybe you're right, maybe I did take my vote from him too fast and it was wrong to believe him. Still, I think he is honest in what he said. You, on the other hand, may try to save MVT from getting lynched by me, maybe he is your partner and you want to rescue him? I thought you were sure that MVT is Mafia? You shouldn't really have something against that vote. And again I'm undecided if I should vote Brett or MVT, if both are Mafia, a vote on Brett would be better because he already has one vote...I'll decide that later. unvote |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 08/01/10 at 13:08:35 18352B2720272E420 wrote:
No, you have the wrong idea. Mafia members place votes on other mafia members all the time, it happens every game, and this works in particular when a mafia member is in the lead on votes and looks like will meet the noose anyway. Picture it like this. Say both Person A and Person B are mafia. Person A looks like a sure lynch. Person B bandwagons off this, reiterates the same theories that have already been said, and votes for Person A. Person A dies, revealed as mafia, makes Person B look town. This is what I think you are doing. I could be wrong of course, but I don't think you can argue with this being a very possible theory. You voted on Tom, after there was a good amount of evidence already posted on him and it looked like he was going to be lynched. Then you see a possible escape route with votes scattered on different people, and you vote for MVT, a very suspicious player. I think he is a mafia, but if Tom comes back mafia, it makes you look mafia and MVT look town because of your vote on him. You also seem very unsure about who to vote for. You seem inclined to go for me, MVT, or Tom, the 3 most likely suspects. It looks like you are going for MVT because if he is townie Tom gets saved for the night and he could have a mafia power role that is vital for the mafia survival. Granted I voted for many people but half of those votes were either joke votes (Cam), or trying to get people to talk (Tom initially, and you Zwiebel). I think we should definitely go through on this Tom lynch, this will tell quite a bit about what side you are on, especially since you admitted yourself this is an attempt to save him. Whatever side Tom is, I would think you are on. Also I won't be on for the last 90 minutes of the day. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 08/01/10 at 13:22:32 I see your point and I have to admit that it could be one possible scenario, but as I said earlier, that would be a bit too obvious in my opinion, if I was mafia I would still have my vote on Tom, since I don't see any way of saving him, the only way would be a vote from me on you, and I'm not that sure to put my vote on you. I was saying otherwise earlier, but I have to agree on the fact that Tom might be lying about his power role. Might, still no one can be sure about it yet. If I put my vote on Tom now, it would look like I was Mafia if he really was town. If I didn't vote for him and he was Mafia, it would make me look Mafia as well. If I vote for him and he's Mafia, I would look like Town. The problem is, that I can't say anything about his role, I don't know if he's lying or not. I said that I think he might be innocent and that this is my feeling. I'm still waiting, maybe Tom is going to show up again and try to defend himself. If he's not , I may consider putting my vote back on him. I won't be awake for too long though, so I'll probably decide that in the next 10-20 minutes. Man, this game is some brain work. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Brett on 08/01/10 at 13:52:19 You know, normally I don't like to give advice but I think I should. You saying it would be too obvious if he was mafia wouldn't be a bad thing to say...if you weren't a first time player. First time players usually make some pretty stupid mistakes. Sort of like I did in my first mafia game, I thought someone was overly mafia, and I pushed so hard for his lynch that he reached a majority in 12 hours instead of the scheduled 48. Somehow I survived that day. There are lots of people to place votes on to get them to 2 votes. You could vote Padz, Web, or myself, as you already stated. Actually, if you voted for Tom now and he comes back town the target would be on Darius and myself as we were the first two to build a case on Tom. If you vote for Tom and he comes back mafia, it helps your case slightly. I honestly don't see Tom coming back to defend himself, considering he already "roleclaimed". Lynching Tom would also tell us a lot about most of the alignment of the players so far, so it is a very helpful lynch for the town, even if he does somehow have a power role. I would be quite stunned if he turned up to be a town power. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Zwiebel on 08/01/10 at 13:56:56 Well then, you convinced me. Your advice is logical and I'm tired, so I guess I'll be straight. Vote: Tom |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 08/01/10 at 14:42:29 Brett admitted he doesn't care about the game I wouldn't exactly trust him. If he is town he is probably intentionally leading you astray Zwieb. Zwieb you really should make your own choices and not rely on someone else's opinion and claim it exactly as your own. I'm saying this even though you voted Tom instead of me which saves me. Still it's best to make your own individual choices in the future and not listen to people that are very clueless like Brett. I don't exactly know what to do but at least I'm not pushing my ideas around like Bretttttttnooob |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 08/01/10 at 14:48:58 That roleclaim is strange, in that it's not actually a role claim. It benefits town to know what the claim is in this situation, so that we can decide whether or not to lynch. Also, I don't know what Tom really expects from us if he's following the crowd and not contributing anything of real town worth all day. Looks like scum trying to save himself with a PR claim to me. The vagueness also makes me think that he's trying to avoid being locked into a claim so that we won't expect a specific night action from him. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 08/01/10 at 14:54:41 052033283432410 wrote:
Wait who claimed? sorry I must have missed it. Can you quote this claim please? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 08/01/10 at 15:03:43 203C3B393527332C65540 wrote:
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 08/01/10 at 15:04:26 7D584B504C4A390 wrote:
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 08/01/10 at 15:06:12 So what are you doing, MVT? There's less than 30 minutes left to deadline. Make a decision. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 08/01/10 at 15:08:23 I'd rather not vote. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 08/01/10 at 15:09:18 Why, because you think Tom is town, or you just can't make a decision? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 08/01/10 at 15:11:34 143122392523500 wrote:
I can't decide. Brett fucked up the day too badly. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by Darius on 08/01/10 at 15:13:13 Ignore Brett. Or, if you think he should be out of the game, vote for him. If someone agrees with you then he may well get lynched instead of Tom. Don't just sit there and complain about him. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by MVT on 08/01/10 at 15:15:06 I need to regroup. I'm outta here. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Night 1 Post by Honko on 08/01/10 at 16:05:44 Tom has been lynched. He was MAFIA Vanilla. Send me your night actions by PM or Email. Night ends in 23 hours, or possibly earlier if I receive all night actions before then. The Living 1. Brett 2. Cam 3. Darius 5. Matt V 6. MVT 7. Padz 8. Web 9. Zwiebel The Dead 4. Gaff - MAFIA Vanilla Final Day 1 Votals [3] Tom - (Brett), Darius, Brett, (Zwiebel), (Cam), Zwiebel [1] Brett - (Cam), (MVT), (Darius), (Padz), Tom [1] Padz - (Web), Matt [1] Web - Padz [0] MVT - (Brett), (Zwiebel) [0] Cam - (Brett), (Matt) [0] Darius - (Cam), (Brett), (Tom), (Brett) [0] Zwiebel - (Brett) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Honko on 08/02/10 at 11:40:11 Cam is dead. He was TOWN Vanilla. Day 2 starts now. With 7 alive it takes 4 votes to lynch. Day ends in 48 hours or when someone reaches 4 votes. The Living 1. Brett 3. Darius 5. Matt V 6. MVT 7. Padz 8. Web 9. Zwiebel The Dead 4. Gaff - MAFIA Vanilla, LD1 2. Cam - TOWN Vanilla, KN1 |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 11:40:52 Well now it's certainly at least fairly clear that Web is mafia. Vote Webinator |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Darius on 08/02/10 at 11:44:35 Looks like a good call to me, MVT. As it's only 4 to lynch I'm not going to vote there. Vote: Matt V Stop your lurkfest and do something. Who's mafia? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 11:46:25 I'm mafia now? How? ;D |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Zwiebel on 08/02/10 at 11:48:11 Seems like Brett is Town after all...I feel that padz' is hoarding something. Vote: Padz |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 11:50:02 100% Town Me Probable Town Darius Lean Town Brett Zwieb |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Darius on 08/02/10 at 11:50:40 Clearly you're not taking him seriously, Web. Unvote; Vote: Web Let's see...you said approximately nothing about Tom, you did very little scumhunting at all, basically just called a few people town, and failed to come and place your vote at a crucial stage. Your response to the vote doesn't do you any favours either. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 11:55:30 I was planning to be back for the vote when the day ended, I was out at dinner and it took an hour longer than expected. Truthfully, I had no idea whether to vote Tom or Brett, because Tom hadn't posted more than one sentence for each of his posts, why would he give a two paragraph explanation on who to vote? Of course I can't give a proper explanation now with everyone knowing Tom is mafia, but I wasn't really sure who to vote. MVT didn't vote either, in fact he unvoted and left at the end of the day without placing any votes. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Darius on 08/02/10 at 11:59:09 Yes, but at least MVT was engaging with me at the time and helping me to get a read. Not being here at all is worse. You can't explain away yesterday but you could try finding some mafia today. We've got a mafia flip, plenty to work from, who do you think is scum? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 12:53:58 One person I REALLY want to hear more from is Matt V. He's made three posts on day 1 (nobody has made fewer posts than that), and his first two posts were completely useless. His first post was just laughing at the fact that there were all votes so far in posts. His second post was a joke vote on Cam. His third post was a vote on Padz with very little insight and reasoning that supported it. Web probably needs to post a bit more. I think he was one of the people that posted less on D1, and his posts didn't contain much thought on who was mafia. I generally think someone out there is an independent. Reason being a 6-3 split sounds too good for the mafia, and a 7-2 split sounds too good for the town. I think there is a 6-2-1 split. It seems like the most balanced for a low power setup. Not sure. The thought sounds fairly reasonable though. Darius is pretty obvious town now. I thought Web was town but after seeing it now I'm very unsure. Anyway I'm going to place a vote on Matt V to get him to CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING in this whole game. Vote: Matt V |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Darius on 08/02/10 at 12:56:15 Actually, on mafiascum.net, 7-2 is the standard newbie game split. It allows the townies two mislynches before they have to correctly lynch scum. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 1 Post by padz on 08/02/10 at 13:06:18 2233061105060017200A11000F06630 wrote:
this speaks volumes unless web was smart enough to frame zwiebel vote Zwiebel |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Zwiebel on 08/02/10 at 13:13:40 You really think I would have votes Tom yesterday if I was Mafia? I could have easily saved him by voting Brett or even you or anyone else with 1 vote. If you read the discussion I had with Brett, you may see that as well. I think you're only trying a poor defense by trying to accuse the one that voted for you...at least, you wrote something. That was my intention. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 13:14:02 @Darius: I didn't know that, thanks for the info. I'm trying to think about Zwiebel. My post yesterday convincing him to vote for Tom was pretty much bait because it was clear he was trying to save him. He could have been mafia voting for Tom at that point and try and use this to clear his name if a case was built on him today. Only reason I did that was because if he wanted to whack a second vote on another person and force a tie he was certainly capable. ...That would be an obvious move from the mafia. I don't know if Zwiebel is that dumb to make a move like that. He's a first time player, and I don't know him at all around the board (I know he visits the MKDS section, a section I barely go to), so I really don't have anything to go on here. I don't know, maybe he is town and fell for that ridiculous roleclaim, which hardly fits the logistics of a roleclaim. I'm going to keep my vote on Matt V only because he contributed practically nothing on D1 and he needs to speak up on D2. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 13:16:45 Oh shit, that was epic, look who showed up right on cue to back up what I said. ;D Zwiebel, you don't really get it, mafia vote for other mafia all the time, especially in a bandwagon situation. You saving Tom would have probably made him last until D2 or D3, at which point once he was lynched you would be the most obvious scum ever. Like Darius said, there are two mislynches of the ratios he says are correct. I typically don't like guessing the amount of mafia though, because if it is wrong it screws up the end game and it practically becomes a coin flip. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Zwiebel on 08/02/10 at 13:28:09 Yeah Brett, I already admitted that I fell for the roleclaim at first...it's always easy looking back and saying "it was obvious that it was a lie", and in that moment I only thought that, if there is the chance that he really has a power role, we shouldn't take the risk to kill him on Day 1. That was why I changed my vote first, but after discussing with you I came to the decision that the role claim wasn't as good as I thought it to be first and that not voting for him wouldn't help the town either, since he would probably have gotten night killed if he really was Town and had a power role, right? Yeah, I would have done the same if I was Mafia probably(or probably even not, since I'm not experienced, as you say), so I'm not sure if this can help me look better, but I think I'm still better than Padz and Matt V, for me the persons who did the least in this game until now. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 13:34:33 It's so hard to properly play the game when people like Brett are so clueless and write so much garbage. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 13:39:12 @Zwiebel, roleclaiming is totally useless in this game unless you have a power role, can admit it, and have a mafia pinned. Tom screwed himself totally by saying "I have a power role" but not claiming what it is. There might not even be a cop in the town actually since according to the most likely split we might only only have two mafia and one is a vanilla. Anyway, more general here....I'm glad that Padz is viewing the thread again, he kind of dissapeared at the end of D1. I don't have enough experience to gauge this, is MattV always this inactive in mafia games? He hasn't been on the forum at all since the day started (he was on about an hour before) so maybe he's busy or something? I can't put a vote on him yet unless he continues to stay silent but I really want to hear what he has to say. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 14:10:01 From the few games I've played with Matt V, he usually is more active than this. @Zwiebel: I admit Padz hasn't posted much more than Matt V, but at least his posts are informative, compared to Matt V whose three posts contain like the most little information in the whole game. He's done shit to help us up until this point. We need thoughts from him, as far as who he thinks is mafia and what not. And if he just repeats everything that has been said into long stretched out paragraphs, that won't help prove his innocence. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 14:26:29 I have to eat dinner right now. I'm just going to do this unless something happens while I'm gone. Vote: Matt V He's my most sus right now and still has yet to talk on D2 as I already explained above. If Brett is saying is more active than this and his only posts have been troll posts so far, he isn't helping the town at all. He needs to talk now. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 15:16:19 Just got in, since you all want contribution, I'll give the crowd what they want. Post coming. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 15:44:58 Seriously to me it's truly quite obvious web is mafia. Padz or MattV are the other candidates. He still hasn't offered any defense. He conveniently didn't bother even mentioning Tom once even though he mentioned almost every other player. [smiley=chairshot.gif] |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 16:01:05 Again I was planning to vote either Tom or Brett at the end of the day, as well as make a post explaining my reasons, but I couldn't because by the time I came back the topic was locked. What happened to your huge push for the Brett lynch? I thought you had him 100% cornered as being mafia.... |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 16:12:25 687A7D76717E6B706D2E2B1F0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:15:28 I know your votes on me were due to inactivity more so than mafia leans, so let's just do a big player breakdown. MY PLAYER BREAKDOWNS 1. Brett - Brett is on the fence, he first says Tom is town, and speaks against MVT/Darius getting an "easy townie lynch" out of him. He was under the radar by everyone, and nearly got lynched, but everyone seems to have forgotten that. He also insta-jumped on the Tom voting bandwagon, for weak reasons (Tom not instantly saying he was town, and in hindsight, he was suspicious of a post saying Tom thoguht he was town....weird much?). Brett is not one to play a shitty game but he has defended himself over the top, even though it was unnecessary (kind of like I did when I was mafia, althoguh I do suck at this game lol). The only thing speaking for Brett is that he recruited Zwiebel to vote for Tom, which he'd NEVER do if he was mafia. 3. Darius - Darius started the Tom lynch, and has provided alot in the game. I 100% think he is town, and can be trusted. 6. MVT - Really went all-out against Brett, who seems suspicious to me, which gives a town lean. Also, Tom's final post was pegging MVT as town, which is something I doubt such an experienced person would do, to try and "protect" his partner. Therefore I get a TOWN lean. Not much else to say, MVT is one of the best players when he is playing mafia, his posting style never deviates from game to game. 7. Padz - I put a vote on padz to get some defense out of him, he was just jumping onto the lynch Brett bandwagon, which I think could be staged to blend in. He's also after Web, who I think is town, and myself, another town. Slight mafia lean. 8. Web - Hasn't done anything suspicious, just a few joke posts, and also keeps getting pushed by padz, who is a mafia lean to me. I think Web is the most likely town left after Darius, and our man Cam thoguht the same before he was killed. 9. Zwiebel - I can't get any read on Zwiebel. First he goes for a mafia with the third vote on Tom, but then pulls a 180 and says that Tom needs to be rescued. Then Brett gets him to change his mind yet again. His lack of experience is showing, but I'm not one to talk. Again, no real lean here, althoguh maybe slightly town. I also want to make sure Cam's posts are not forgotten, because he is an excellent player, and as a proven town could give some insight: 5647726571727463547E65747B72170 wrote:
This was before all the long-ass posts with tons of aggression, it's almost as if he knew it was gonna happen. Which suggests to me that lynching Brett may not tell us much about MVT, since the whole thing could be staged. Admittedly, I don't think anyone's pulled that kind of thing off though. I think Brett might be town, even though he defends himself poorly. He should abandon any further defense at this point and focus on other people. After all, if he does come up town, analysis on other people will be more helpful than pages and pages of self-defence.[/quote] 7362574054575146715B40515E57320 wrote:
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:16:09 1A0B3E293D3E382F18322938373E5B0 wrote:
I could've sworn at least twice he's expressed this exact same sentiment against someone at the start of the game who did something stupid and ended up being town. MVT was also town both times I think, so that doesn't necessarily make him mafia. I think he should try to not focus so much on his gut reaction at the start of the game, as it's been wrong before. I want to know what MVT thinks of the rest of us, we all already know what he thinks of Brett. I'm undecided on MVT atm.[/quote] 6677425541424453644E55444B42270 wrote:
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 16:19:09 Of course its easy to say now that he's mafia. If I had posted the same thing before and he had come up mafia, then it wouldn't be a big deal, but since i wasn't on the computer due to being out to dinner and it lasted longer than I thought it would and I come back, suddenly it isn't good enough. I can perfectly understand why this is questioned, but its something I can't help..... @MVT of course. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:21:43 Keep in mind my long post was made without any look at who's targeting who on D2. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 16:23:30 Oh btw MVT, Zwiebel was back and forth on his vote for the whole day, and Brett pretty much persuaded him after he voted Tom, then unvoted to MVT. Brett told him to vote Tom. I thought Zwiebel was town but now I'm not sure since he was pretty much forced to vote Tom otherwise it would have seemed suspicious that he refused and then a few hours later Tom was mafia. Anyway, I'll be back on again soon, busy with AP work atm. Since Matt V finally decided to talk, I'll do this for the moment. We still have 43 hours left in the day so I'll vote later when there's more to go on. Unvote |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:24:20 Whatdya mean finally? I had to work haha. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 16:29:52 6C5449484F646B575A425E49647E4D5E493B0 wrote:
So I may not look like I did much but every single move I made and post I said had a purpose. 2 things I did. The Brett roasting day 1, (contrary to him thinking I hate him and I'm a terrible human being) actually were purposefully designed because I KNEW how combustible he is when put under and tiny bit of pressure. Look how me roasting him almost proves he is town! The end of day 1. I didn't want my vote to be the decider or influence the outcome since it was very close or tied I believe. I wanted to see someone step up and make the move of the killing vote. I knew it would speak volumes about their position later in the game once the dead guy was revealed. Zwieb stepped up and voted Tom when he could have voted out many others. Tom turns up maf. Zweib is likely town. If he was mafia he would have chosen one of the other several options. I got a good game going so far. :o ;) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 16:36:27 Game plan of attack Matt V - Was inactive until now. Avoided any tough decisions or pressuring anyone. Claims Web is not at all suspicious. | connected | Web - Very suspect. Avoided Tom like he was a hot potato. Padz - strange style. Not choosing the correct people either to vote for. Lynching Web tells us what side Matt V is on. I'm always in favor of such situations. I always try to get value for a lynch in any game. In any game usually 2 for 1 situations arise and here is one very basic clear cut situation. Matt V says Web is not at all suspicious. If Web turns up maf, Matt V is very likely to also be maf. If Web turns up town Matt V is also likely town. http://esigns.com/stock%20pics/buy-1-get-1-free-sale-YELLOW.jpg That is why the choice to kill Web today for me is so easy and obvious. The logic is unavoidable and undebatable. So Vote Web guys! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:38:40 Well with my town read I'm glad you analyzed my post. I'll never pretend to be as good at this game as people like you and Cam, but those were my gut instincts. Hindsight is always 20/20, and whoile I'm not flipping 180 degrees, Brett seems more town, due to the fact that his bad suspicions were so early in the game. I didn't know he was always so defensive? My Web/town read was based on my read of Padz being mafia, and of Cam's read, whose judgement I trust. With Zwiebel I feel I agree with you, but for different reasons Mike. Brett "convinced" (I doubt it was staged) him to put the vote on Tom. If he were a more experienced player I'd be suspicious, but for now I lean slightly more towards town, but still not toally sure. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:41:23 If Web is mafia the game should be over, and whatever suspicions you have of us being linked will be disproved. If he's mafia it also makes you probable mafia for gunning him so much, so it's also win-win for town. Vote: Web Even though I still think he's town, this could smoke out MVT. I hope Darius gets on to post soon though, as the only for sure town. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 16:43:27 112934353219162A273F23341903302334460 wrote:
Wait what? If I was mafia I would target my only buddy left in such a small field of players? HUH? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:47:38 Sorry I meant town not mafia. "If he's town it also makes you probable mafia for gunning him so much, so it's also win-win for town. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 16:50:03 5D6578797E555A666B736F78554F7C6F780A0 wrote:
I guess that makes sense. :-? edit - you changed it from town town to town maf. Now I finally understand what you mean in theory. Except for the fact I'm town. I also don't like how you keep saying Darius is for sure town. Maybe it's just inexperience but there is no such thing as a sure thing. Tom and Darius are both wise players. If they wanted to think of a plan where one starts a lynch bandwagon against the other to make one look very innocent, they could have easily worked that out. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:51:16 Fine, Darius is 98% town. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:52:42 Also, I'm sure Darius will come in and start a brigade against someone, and he wouldn't do that if he was mafia. You just wait and see. ;D |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 16:52:48 If web flips maf I will focus day 3 on you Matt. If web flips town I will focus on padz day 3. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:54:02 Unless there is VERY STRONG evidence that surfaces of MVT being mafia, I'll keep my vote on Web, no matter what. I want this kid off my ass, and onto an actual mafia. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 16:54:50 Like I said before there is prob only two mafia, so either we will win or we will move onto another sus person. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Honko on 08/02/10 at 16:56:26 Votals [3] Web - MVT, Darius, Matt [1] Matt - (Darius), Brett, (Web) [1] Padz - Zwiebel [1] Zwiebel - Padz Day ends in 42 hours or when someone reaches 4 votes. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 17:01:02 BRETT STOP LURKING I SEE YOU ONLINE |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 17:09:50 I just freaking got here, calm down. Anyway Matt, I have no idea how I could be on the fence in your eyes considering I pretty much with the help of Darius led the Tom lynch. Zwiebel was certainly capable of whacking a townie and forcing a tie vote but no, instead I focus him on a mafia player. I don't know what to do. I want to vote Web but I won't end the day with 42 hours left. Lets give Web a chance to defend himself and hopefully provide more to the table than arbitrary lists of who seems town and excuses. @MVT: I'm confused. You pushed hard against me knowing I'd break down and reveal what side of the playing field I am on? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 17:13:07 lol caps lock fail by me >.> I'm going out with friends, may or may not be back on before bed, so if I'm not on for the next 15 hours don't harass me. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by padz on 08/02/10 at 18:26:09 i don't see how zwiebel being pressured into bussing tom would make him look town. it's happened plenty of times and the lack of confidence in his own opinion says a lot about him trying to make sure he doesnt make any waves w/ anyone. maybe you guys are right about it being just a first-timer thing. reason i didn't vote web is that i figured i'd at least give him a chance to fuck up a bit more but all he's done is spout what he said yesterday so that kind of flopped unvote vote Web |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Honko on 08/02/10 at 18:27:32 Quickest game ever. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Day 2 Post by Honko on 08/02/10 at 18:28:18 Web was mafia, game is over. Time to celebrate! |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by padz on 08/02/10 at 18:32:49 looks like darius got his grueling lowpower game eh [smiley=thumbsup.gif] honko more like dane coonko |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Honko on 08/02/10 at 18:33:34 I think we can all agree on one thing: Tom played pretty much perfectly this game. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 18:34:15 Cakewalk. http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Eric_B/cakewalk31-1-2.jpg I was town vanilla. ::) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by padz on 08/02/10 at 18:34:53 i was dayvig but it only activates on day 3 |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Honko on 08/02/10 at 18:35:58 Web - Mafia Roleblocker Tom - Mafia Vanilla Zwiebel - Town Cop Darius - Town Bodyguard (dies in someone's place) Matt V - Town Miller (guilty in scans) everyone else was vanilla |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 18:37:04 Tom didn't do much of anything to defend himself and Web was a really obvious mafia. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 18:39:55 Lol perfect townie game. Game couldn't have been over faster. I still don't think I would have gone for Web though. I thought his game wasn't too bad. At least, not the worst. I probably would have went for Matt V or Zwiebel first. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by MVT on 08/02/10 at 18:41:14 6757405151250 wrote:
And that's why people didn't listen to you very much. [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 18:46:25 Say what you want about me, Tom would probably not be dead D1 had it not been for me getting Zwiebel to vote for him. I bet Zwiebel scanned me N1, as he said something along the lines of "It looks like Brett was town". Also I still hate how you put pressure on me like that on D1. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Brett on 08/02/10 at 18:48:20 Oh yeah, and one more thing, apparently being an active player is worse for me, it almost got me lynched on D1. Honko, you should give us the link to the mafia board, I think it would be interesting to see what Web and Tom were saying. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Camster on 08/02/10 at 18:58:24 Shit, I sucked this game. Well played town :) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Camster on 08/02/10 at 19:48:08 09392E3F3F4B0 wrote:
I wanna see this too. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 20:58:23 I applaud MVT, and applaud myself for finally finishing a game. :D |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by thewebinator on 08/02/10 at 21:44:32 I want a board mafia game where I'm actually town. :P Mafia two times in a row doesn't help. I'm not skilled at being a mafia, its hard to be so outward with your posts/ Also brett, there wasn't a mafia board. We communicated through PMs, and I only got to decide with him on Cam kill and MVT roleblock, there were only two sent. He was offline a lot and got killed day one. You can't do much when its 1 v 6 after day one. I really wish Tom had at least supported his vote before he bandwagoned, for a short amount of time it seemed like it was going to be too easy. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Matt V on 08/02/10 at 22:10:19 4373647575010 wrote:
Why were you so sus of me? :-? |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Darius on 08/02/10 at 22:49:31 Nice work, town! I actually thought Cam might be Tom's partner after yesterday because of the way he immediately believed the claim and started looking elsewhere. I thought it would have been better for mafia if Tom claimed something specific like cop so that at least if he did get lynched, they could identify a PR. Web: you shouldn't be so afraid to bus your partner. If you'd made a good vote on Tom, it might have bought you enough townie cred to make it through the game. At the very least you'd have got another day. I protected Brett last night, for anyone wanting to know. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by The Gaff on 08/03/10 at 04:28:17 tbh i couldn't believe brett didn't get the final vote, that was a hell of a turn around from town. Also - games on teh weekends are not good for me. I post alot more when i'm on at work during the week. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Brett on 08/03/10 at 05:27:24 I guess this makes up for the epic rape that happened to town during Zelda Mafia. Matt V, I was suspect of you because you contributed nothing on D1, and D2 in your analysis you were suspect of me, which was kinda stupid if you saw what happened D1. I thought the Cam kill was a terrible kill TBH. I probably would have went for Darius had I been mafia, as he was pretty much the most obvious townie out of all of us. Even if he did protect me N1. [smiley=lolk.gif] I wanted to claim Bulletproof so badly on D1 when I was gonna get lynched (or so I thought), but I didn't want to risk it. I also thought of a one-shot Vig, but I figured that might be slightly too powerful. And yes, I knew that my vote wouldn't have counted, however, I never thought of a modkill at the time. I didn't think my Vanilla role would save me from the lynch. Lets just face it. Mafia played terrible and town was well organized from the start. This is what happens. :) |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Zwiebel on 08/03/10 at 05:43:58 1F2F3829295D0 wrote:
You're right, I did scan you after Tom was lynched. Could have made a better choice, though ::) ::) Oh and I can say now, that I wanted to look a bit suspicious to not get NK'd early in this game. Well, at least that worked, even if I didn't play that good probably. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Camster on 08/03/10 at 07:13:54 0232253434400 wrote:
I actually don't think killing me was that bad of a plan for mafia. Of the two mafia, I was only suspicious of Tom, who was already dead, and Web was way off my radar. Killing me might've made it look like I was onto something with someone else. I'm glad no one listened to me ;D |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by thewebinator on 08/03/10 at 22:03:43 The reason I killed Cam was because he always seems to sniff out the mafia instantly. Also, everyone pours over the posts of the person who was killed, and it totally separated me and Tom. Cam said I was second most likely town, and he's normally right. If the Tom thing had gone differently then it would have helped greatly. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Darius on 08/03/10 at 22:55:50 Speculating over NKs usually leads to endless WIFOM anyway, unless you have night action information. The fact of the matter is, scum's goal is often to manipulate or confuse with their targets. I tend to avoid it and I certainly wouldn't have let Cam's opinion make me think you were town. Not only that, but Cam was really quick to believe Tom's claim so taking him out of the game was removing someone who I, and possibly others, thought could well have been his partner. Brett: your reaction to the pressure gave me a pretty strong town read on you. In addition, you supported the Tom wagon early on and didn't back down. You should always protect whoever you're most confident is town, so you were the obvious protect target. Also, lying about your role as a townie often leads to disaster, so I wouldn't recommend it. |
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Title: Re: Low-Power Mafia Gamovr Post by Brett on 08/03/10 at 23:38:44 I was gonna lie in order to bait mafia into killing me N1. I'd flip Vanilla, and the powers live. Also, how could I have better defended myself? Since everyone said I defended myself like shit. Cam was a target in my eyes. I thought mafia would go for either myself, or Darius. Darius, I would have protected you had I had that role lol. I'm just glad there wasn't a 3rd mafia. Web flips mafia, Zwieb probably would have scanned Matt V on N2, found him guilty, roleclaimed and lynched Matt V, the miller. Then if Darius was killed N2 we would have lost our cop N3. But damn, that was TOO close for comfort on D1, don't do that again. [smiley=lolk.gif] On a side note, I could have sworn I typed a similar post to this earlier but it seems to have vanished. |
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