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https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl Historical >> Karter Contest 2K10 >> Harvey '10 (Campaign) https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1274065268 Message started by Saint Nicholas on 05/16/10 at 19:01:08 |
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Title: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Saint Nicholas on 05/16/10 at 19:01:08 I am in this contest to represent the honest, everyday American. I don't live in a mansion, have the good looks of a Hollywood movie star, eat at fancy restaurants, drive a Rolls-Royce, or walk around wearing expensive suits, shoes, watches, or jewelry. I'm not an astrophysicist, a neurosurgeon, or a CEO. I am just a down-to-earth guy who leads a very ordinary life and keeps his faith in God. I do not take a single day of my life for granted. I don't take a single bite of food or a single sip of beer for granted. I don't take for granted my loving family, the 1000 sq. ft. roof over my head, my priceless pet Chihuahua, my video games, or the computer I'm sitting at as I type this. God has taught me to appreciate every little thing I have in my life because He can take any of it away whenever He feels like it. I can't even take my Karting talent for granted because God can take that away too via an injury, etc. If I don't win this Karter Contest, it wasn't God's will that I win. I must always accept everything that God has in store for me. Thank you for voting, Nicholas C. Harvey. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by MVT on 05/16/10 at 19:04:11 You are an American Hero, and you have my vote. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by cutz22 on 05/16/10 at 19:07:00 0522282324272A3814032A393D2E324B0 wrote:
You lost my vote. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by thewebinator on 05/16/10 at 19:13:26 *standing ovation* Is it just me, or is everything Harvey says seem like a speech where he should have an American Flag in the background. Maybe gained my vote, depends who you're up against though. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 05/17/10 at 04:47:32 Best campaign topic yet! |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by The Gaff on 05/17/10 at 04:50:35 Smooth moves pulling the God card Harvey. Harvey, i'll vote for you if you make a video of you doing the Cheeseburger Challenge (eat a regular cheese burger from mc donalds in the quickest time possible - Jones got 16 seconds). |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by marinous on 05/17/10 at 09:14:00 Do you actually want my vote or is this a pro-god campaign? ;D |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Resident Dry Bones User on 05/17/10 at 16:56:42 Well, he's got my vote because of that speech. Putting God aside, he really loves his country, just like I do. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Timothy on 05/19/10 at 10:25:35 5C7D737A557D60767D7C120 wrote:
You lost my vote. [/quote] Same, for the same reason. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Goose on 05/19/10 at 12:36:11 Nick Harvey, I respect your patriotism. I will be voting for you. GOD BLESS AMERICA! |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Camster on 05/19/10 at 12:51:38 7F7576756B750C0 wrote:
You lost my vote. [/quote] Same, for the same reason.[/quote] Playing the devil's advocate here, but are all atheists as prejudice as you two are? On second thought, don't answer that. I will assume in ignorance that they are. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Camster on 05/19/10 at 13:05:04 Now that (Jeff's soon to be deleted post :P) is an example of a more informed reason why someone's not voting for Harvey ;D |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Brutus on 05/19/10 at 13:18:14 A good man is hard to find - good thing we have at least one in the Karter Contest! Consider my vote earned! |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Pleiades on 05/19/10 at 14:02:19 What the fuck Brutus? |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Timothy on 05/19/10 at 14:14:33 6D7C495E4A494F586F455E4F40492C0 wrote:
You lost my vote. [/quote] Same, for the same reason.[/quote] Playing the devil's advocate here, but are all atheists as prejudice as you two are? On second thought, don't answer that. I will assume in ignorance that they are.[/quote] I'm not prejudice. ;D |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Funk DJ on 05/19/10 at 15:05:05 Some people in IRC were wondering what do you do in your everyday life. Have you been to college and if you have, what did you major in? Are you currently working or what kind of jobs have you done in your life? Is joining the military still something you think about? Do you live on your own or with other people? You post quite a lot, but I still don't seem to know almost anything about you. :) |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Saint Nicholas on 05/19/10 at 21:38:25 Well, like many of the rest of you, I still live at home. (Of course, wherever you live is "home"...) I'm looking around and trying to decide what I should really try a career in, and going to school to master the skill I want. It probably won't be the military, because I also like video game development (as video games have been my life for so long), but I could also try teaching (like Florent Lecoanet does), linguistics, anthropology, maybe even astrophysics, that last one really enthralls me with the prospect of time travel and interstellar travel via wormholes (which can be created by focusing enough energy on one point). I'm not sure, however, to what extent God would allow us to mess with the space and time He created--- could He have paralyzed Stephen Hawking to keep him from inventing those very things? :-? I'm not so stupid like some people on this board think I am, and fairly good with a wide variety of different things, so if I truly needed to get a job quickly, I ought to be able to get it, even something mundane and low-paying like fast food or manual labor (the latter of which I've worked in before). I'd prefer to do something I like, of course, but if it's necessary to keep my face fed, I'll wear whatever work boots will fit. In the mean time, family and God have been taking great care of me... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Timothy on 05/20/10 at 02:46:09 60474D4641424F5D71664F5C584B572E0 wrote:
>___> Oh my lord, are you for real? You do also realise Hawking's brain is still entirely intact? |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by MC1_For_Life on 05/20/10 at 03:39:28 I think he said that if he doesnt win it then as far as God is concerned, it wasnt meant to be. So its fair, lets just go with the flow. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by thewebinator on 05/20/10 at 11:06:09 383231322C324B0 wrote:
>___> Oh my lord, are you for real? You do also realise Hawking's brain is still entirely intact?[/quote] The fact that God would paralyze someone in order to stop them from finding wormholes that he wouldn't want someone to find out about....you'd think he'd go the whole way and make the guy completely indept at communication so it can't get out to the public. But hey, I don't really know what God thinks about it all. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Saint Nicholas on 05/20/10 at 16:50:39 Well, it is impossible for us to totally understand God's reasons. My thing with Hawking is just a theory, of course, but there's always that chance. Perhaps He doesn't want too bright of a boy to play with too big of a toy. Hawking probably could lead some kind of experiment, given his ability to "talk", but just imagine how much more he'd be able to accomplish if he could move, too. I don't think God would allow a man to build, say, a warp portal to Heaven, as I do believe that it is a parallel dimension [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Patricio on 05/20/10 at 17:25:51 so why would god let people create the nuclear bomb? |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Saint Nicholas on 05/20/10 at 18:10:50 So the good guys could win WW2. I don't think He wants to see it used again, though... [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by cutz22 on 05/20/10 at 18:29:36 6F4842494E4D40527E694053574458210 wrote:
I'm not prejudice, it's actually more of these lines why I reacted the way I did. Harvey is so indoctrinated that he feels it would be okay if god just decided to take away every little thing in his life, or injured him so he cannot kart. It just screams blind obedience. And then he acts like its gods job to take sides in the Karter Contest! Edit: ^^Oh, really Harvey?? God in his all-knowing, all-powerfulness can't possibly conceive of a better way to end WW2 than a massive explosion killing thousands of innocent civilians?? |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Shock on 05/20/10 at 18:43:34 Well, first off, God isn't the only person who is wanting control of this world. In fact, so far this seems to be quite the situation that is working for the benefit of evil/satan. A big bomb that blows up cities and kills hundreds of thousands. That in itself is terrible. Then, the blame is immediately put on God. That is pretty convenient. Also, although we have yet to really see an example, the nuclear bomb may be used for our good in the future. I don't know how, but it might. All technology that is invented stands a chance to be used for either good or evil. Maybe the nuclear bomb is being used for good in the sense that it is a pretty damn good wake up call for humanity. Just some thoughts I had for now. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by thewebinator on 05/20/10 at 18:44:15 Wow this is turning into a religion topic lol. Sooooooo who's voting for Harvey? ;D |
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Title: Re: Official 2K10 Flaming Topic Post by Shock on 05/20/10 at 18:47:33 I don't mind. I'm sitting on the floor at a friends house; I'm house-sitting for them. Not much to do right now. ;D Good time for a deep philosophical debate :D I would lol if you changed the subject of the thread, Harvey. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by AlexPenev on 05/20/10 at 19:20:22 785F555E595A5745697E574440534F360 wrote:
Despite admitting that it's impossible to guess, I still think you may have put more thought into this than anyone else here ;D |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by cutz22 on 05/20/10 at 19:22:59 707F75687B7D647F7574747F110 wrote:
Satan? Really? Well first of all you aren't really a theist anymore because god isn't all-powerful if he can't control Satan. Then there is the issue of the explanation of why Satan is even here. Isn't god supposed to have created everything there is, which would include Satan? This would invalidate the argument. Then the "wake up call". Completely ignoring the fact that deeming the nuclear bomb a "wake up call" would imply that humanity was reformed after it, a wake up call isn't supposed to be fatal, like it was for thousands of Japanese people. And an all-knowing, all-powerful god could certainly be able to bring his own creations together without mass death. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Shock on 05/20/10 at 19:38:57 5A7B757C537B66707B7A140 wrote:
Hey cutz, I'm just trying to represent the other side of the argument. It is not necessary that you post in a style that portrays my posts as ignorant. Also, I wouldn't mind if you thought a little bit more before you post. I never specifically stated my position yet. In fact, I'm siding a bit with what you're saying. Okay, moving on to the debate. The first paragraph is something that people have debated over for centuries. Why evil? Isn't God in control of everything? This goes from everything small, like a personal death in the family, to nuclear weapons. I can't, and no one ever will, be able to answer that question. Personally, this is an issue that has been bothering me. I will continue to think about this more later. The second paragraph I find more comprehensive. Steps were taken after World War 2 to reform the ways of war. This includes the United Nations, and several national organizations and international treaties. Most of the logically thinking people on the world today would not be trigger-happy with nukes. In fact, nukes have served somewhat as war repellants. By a wake up call, I meant a more general term. Humanity itself is not dead, therefore, the wake up call was not fatal. Your last sentence ties in to what you said in the first paragraph. I will summarize with one thought: Would you rather live in a world that only contained good, and left no room for heroism, bravery, strength, endurance and will, or would you live in a world where this conflict exists? In an all good world, there would be no room for God in the first place. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by cutz22 on 05/20/10 at 19:51:07 232C263B282E372C2627272C420 wrote:
Humanity is not a giant unit. It's a composition of billions of individuals. Of course the wake up call did not wipe out all of humanity, but was fatal to a few thousand of its individual members. I have no knowledge to say how living in a world without conflict would be, since I have never had the opportunity! I can only say that living in a world with conflict, pretty much sucks. Even if conflict is necessary, there is never any reason for conflict to be on a fatal level, for no greater good can come for a person who is dead! |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by MVT on 05/20/10 at 19:53:02 72535D547B534E5853523C0 wrote:
Satan? Really? Well first of all you aren't really a theist anymore because god isn't all-powerful if he can't control Satan. Then there is the issue of the explanation of why Satan is even here. Isn't god supposed to have created everything there is, which would include Satan? This would invalidate the argument. Then the "wake up call". Completely ignoring the fact that deeming the nuclear bomb a "wake up call" would imply that humanity was reformed after it, a wake up call isn't supposed to be fatal, like it was for thousands of Japanese people. And an all-knowing, all-powerful god could certainly be able to bring his own creations together without mass death. [/quote] You are the worst debater ever...must have been dropped on your head as a small child. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by ALAKTORN on 05/20/10 at 19:56:50 oh god, religious debates? [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Shock on 05/20/10 at 20:09:01 61404E4768405D4B40412F0 wrote:
Okay, now my head hurts! ;D Humanity is composed of billions of individuals, that is true. However, I think humans can be thought of as an entire "unit" as well. We all have the same structure underneath, and regardless of how we got here, came from a common ancestor. There is noone who is half ape/half human. (Although some people are questionable [smiley=ninja.gif]) We are individuals, and yet we are one. I think this is one of the main things that defines humanity. And yes, the world we live in sucks. But, we have nowhere else to go. Conflict should not be on the fatal level, but it is. This is the point where philosophy should be left behind I think. It's great to argue over these concepts, but what lasting good is it doing? Not much, if anything. Great, now I get to go to sleep thinking of deep philosophical arguments, thinking about tomorrow, and at the same time am inspired to save humanity from an unknown enemy. [smiley=lolk.gif] I am done here for today, thanks for the debate cutz. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by RVZ on 05/20/10 at 20:12:48 Harvey, sometimes, your fat. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by MVT on 05/20/10 at 20:12:58 You easily won Shock. Congratulations! Cutz's argument was like a bowl of oatmeal with diarrhea splattered inside. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Camster on 05/20/10 at 21:47:57 I take back everything I said in this thread. There's no defending Harvey. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by TvL on 05/21/10 at 06:35:04 God works in mysterious ways... |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Ivootjes on 05/21/10 at 08:12:21 is god doing a miniturbo? this could change everything |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by KoopZ on 05/21/10 at 08:35:08 ivo wins the thread, for he is right. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Pleiades on 05/21/10 at 08:38:00 795E545F585B5644687F564541524E370 wrote:
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by cutz22 on 05/21/10 at 11:53:05 16272E2E16232E27420 wrote:
Shock basically conceded most points, saying "The first paragraph is something that people have debated over for centuries. Why evil? Isn't God in control of everything? This goes from everything small, like a personal death in the family, to nuclear weapons. I can't, and no one ever will, be able to answer that question. Personally, this is an issue that has been bothering me. I will continue to think about this more later" Also, " This is the point where philosophy should be left behind I think. It's great to argue over these concepts, but what lasting good is it doing? Not much, if anything." Also, no negative campaigning. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by MVT on 05/21/10 at 11:55:53 54757B725D75687E75741A0 wrote:
Shock basically conceded most points, saying "The first paragraph is something that people have debated over for centuries. Why evil? Isn't God in control of everything? This goes from everything small, like a personal death in the family, to nuclear weapons. I can't, and no one ever will, be able to answer that question. Personally, this is an issue that has been bothering me. I will continue to think about this more later" Also, " This is the point where philosophy should be left behind I think. It's great to argue over these concepts, but what lasting good is it doing? Not much, if anything." Also, no negative campaigning. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/quote] Conceded points? Since when are you the judge to distribute points? Loser. |
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Title: Re: Harvey '10 (Campaign) Post by Saint Nicholas on 06/05/10 at 20:45:53 Speed Run Wiki bio updated, please check it out. Thanks to all who made me the winner of my group in Round 1! [smiley=dankk2.gif] |
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