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https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl General >> Mafia >> Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1260986730 Message started by KoopZ on 12/16/09 at 10:05:30 |
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Title: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by KoopZ on 12/16/09 at 10:05:30 The Rules CHECK YOUR PMs BEFORE POSTING. You never know what happened to you during the night. There may be something important you need to know before posting. Always check your PMs before posting on a new day. DO NOT DELETE OR EDIT POSTS. Never delete or edit a post by anyone in the game, including yourself. If you say something, everyone has the right to see it. Exceptions will be made for edits to add or fix things in the five minutes after a post is made; never to remove info. DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE GAME OUTSIDE THIS TOPIC. Unless your role specifically allows it, all discussion of the game should remain in this topic. Same reasons as above. To keep the game fair and fun for everyone, everyone has the right to see what you have to say. DO NOT POST CONTENT AFTER YOU HAVE DIED. "Bye guys" is about as far as you should go. No hints, no names, nothing that could be interpreted in a way that might affect the game. You're dead, your part in the game is over. DO NOT DIRECTLY QUOTE YOUR ROLE PM. You can copy the first sentence, which says "You are <Person>, <ALIGNMENT> <Role>." The rest of it you must NOT copy. You can paraphrase it if you really have to share it, but you should probably check with me first just to make sure you aren't too close to the original. People should be judging you based on your behavior, not based on the wording of your role PM. DO NOT POST IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE GAME. It disrupts the game for no good reason. There are plenty of other topics for you to post in. Spamming up this topic is a great way for you to ensure that you are never allowed in any future mafia games. DON'T GO INACTIVE, AND ALWAYS PLAY TO WIN. Even the most dire of situations is winnable if the game is still in progress, so always play to win. This is how you vote. Vote: KoopZ If you want to change your vote, post Unvote first. Votes not bolded or without the proper unvote will not be counted. Days will last 48 hours, or until a majority vote is reached. If no majority is reached, the player with the most votes at the end of the day will be lynched. In the case of a tie, the day will continue until the tie is broken, with only votes and unvotes on the tied players counting. You may also vote for "No Lynch". You cannot vote for yourself. Nights will last 24 hours. All night actions must be sent to me by message board PM by then. If you have any questions, PM me. Remaining Players 1. Brett - Saria, TOWN Role Blocker Survived to the end 2. Cam - Nabooru, TOWN Miller Killed Night 2 3. Christophe (El Nino) - Goron, TOWN Vanilla Survived to the end 4. Clay (Magikoopa) - Ganondorf, MAFIA Strong Man Survived to the end 5. Dave Smith - Link, TOWN Jack of All Trades Lynched Day 4 6. Flo - Zora, TOWN Vanilla Killed Night 1 7. Gaff - Princess Zelda, TOWN Scanner Lynched Day 3 8. Goose - Koume, MAFIA Silencer Lynched Day 1 9. Howes - Hylian, TOWN Vanilla Lynched Day 2 10. Jamie (Pistaker) - Impa, TOWN Tracker Killed Night 3 11. Joe (Eoj) - Shadow Link, MAFIA Infiltrator Survived to the end 12. Kmacc - Darunia, TOWN Body Guard Killed Night 3 13. Matt V - Kokiri, TOWN Vanilla Survived to the end 14. MVT - Ruto, TOWN Mason Killed Night 1 15. Sean (Zootmanx) - Kotake, MAFIA Brain Washer Survived to the end 16. Tim - Rauru, TOWN Mason Survived to the end 17. Tyler (Sportsguy) - Iron Knuckle, MAFIA Role Blocker Survived to the end |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/16/09 at 10:09:45 One day in the land of Hyrule, a group of travelers were making their way towards the Great Fair in Castle Town Market. Things were going quite smoothly during their trip, until one morning when they woke up.... KoopZ has been killed. He was The King of Hyrule, TOWN Bad Ass. The travelers were suddenly very wary of what was going to happen next. They decided to talk amongst themselves during the day to try and figure out who the killer was, and agreed that if they found someone who they thought was the killer, they would kill that person themselves. And so the day goes on.... Role PMs are being sent out now. Day 1 ends 48 hours from this post. With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Day 1 ends when 9 votes have been reached. If a player has not reached 9 votes by the end of the day, the player who last had the most votes will be the player who gets lynched. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/16/09 at 10:16:58 This is gonna be fun! Zelda theme is awesome. I'm in a meeting all day at work though, so I won't be able to really start participating until this evening. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by El Niño on 12/16/09 at 10:19:13 Woot! I realized while reading my role PM that my Zelda knowledge isn't too good... Doesn't mean I don't like it though! :) -Christophe. Edit: Too bad I need to leave to my soccer training in a quarter of an hour... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/16/09 at 10:21:13 Koopz, can you get a list of all the players in the game up? It helps when we know who is participating. :P |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/16/09 at 10:24:40 was in the process of editing that in when you made your post. :) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/16/09 at 10:29:11 Thank you sir! Vote: Tim He's mafia, I know it. [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/16/09 at 10:29:16 072A2D3E252C244B0 wrote:
First suspicious post imo :) Does that mean that you are a character whom you don't know? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by El Niño on 12/16/09 at 10:41:43 That's about it. I think I know who/what I am, but I'm not absolutely sure. I only own one Zelda game (Oracle of Seasons) that I have barely played. As for my post being suspicious, theoretically everything written in this topic is suspicious under certain points of view. But remember if it's worth anything: this is my 1st mafia game. :P Maybe this is because I have no mafia game experience, but I also, and above all, didn't understand the 3rd part of the "You are... " sentence, which would correspond to <Role>. @ KoopZ: That's a question for you, I don't have time to re-write the same thing in a PM. [smiley=dankk2.gif] -Christophe. P.S.: I suspect Flo! :D Nah, just kidding. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/16/09 at 10:47:26 You should have asked this directly in a PM. ;) And you totally have the right to suspect me. But unfortunately, I'm again town. Never twice without three times (as we say in France) [smiley=flush.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/16/09 at 10:48:09 I don't really know Zelda that well. Is "The Master Sword" a good role? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/16/09 at 10:49:49 no, its the role where you always get man handled. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by . on 12/16/09 at 10:50:30 My role is HUGE |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/16/09 at 10:51:15 So, your role doesn't fit to you MVT. ;) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/16/09 at 10:56:44 you should have taken this as a compliment... you are not huge :P |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/16/09 at 11:01:22 Vote: Kmacc Reason: Do I really need one? ::) Good luck everyone. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/16/09 at 11:24:30 Ummmmm...... Vote Dave Smith He has to be mafia since koopz was town bad ass, Dave must be Mafia bad ass. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/16/09 at 11:28:27 Vote: Goose Random vote. Plus he might be mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Dave Smith on 12/16/09 at 11:34:56 Just think of me as Tom. Need I say more? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/16/09 at 12:13:43 Vote: Flo Because it should be tradition |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/16/09 at 12:14:25 Btw, who's the dot? You're confusing me. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/16/09 at 12:17:07 The dot is MVT. Also lol @ me being first on KoopZ's list of players. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/16/09 at 12:27:36 Unvote: Flo Vote: The Dot Clearly this is an attempt of blending in with the crowd. The bandwagoning only further establishes this. A true townie would've used an exclamation mark! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by El Niño on 12/16/09 at 12:31:19 Vote: Flo For now! My contribution to this game! (And the only one I can make, too!) I like being a Townie! So many exclamation marks! :D :D :D -Christophe. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/16/09 at 13:06:30 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4glaF0SnZY[/media] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/16/09 at 13:11:47 0A1B2E392D2E283F08223928272E4B0 wrote:
Isn't that what everyone does Day 1? And aren't you a self confessed poor mafia player? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/16/09 at 13:14:04 Vote: Goose Reason: He doesn't talk about his sexual failures much anymore. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/16/09 at 13:16:06 ^ Bold your vote for it to count. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/16/09 at 13:18:23 Why are you so eager to get rid of Goose, eh tim? Vote: Timothy |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/16/09 at 13:18:50 Wow, what a good play! Justified and everything! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/16/09 at 13:23:01 1100352236353324133922333C35500 wrote:
6F7E4B5C484B4D5A6D475C4D424B2E0 wrote:
TWO absolutely RIDIC scrambling posts attempting to be normal already? Vote: Enigmatic Cam |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/16/09 at 13:24:01 4174746F567A75431B0 wrote:
It's because I'm fucking Princess Zelda with a little bit of Saria on the side. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/16/09 at 13:29:28 Sure Boss, you're next. I'll give Tim one more chance to prove himself. His constant defensive stance suggests he is more than likely mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/16/09 at 13:44:20 ZootmanX's arrogance at thinking he has the game figured out on day 1 suggests he is mafia. Seems like he's going to be something of an annoying hinderence. Anyway, two can play at the voting game. Unvote Vote: ZootmanX |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/16/09 at 13:50:55 Goose is definitely town, there's no other explanation. Who else would receive the only female role? He has to be Zelda. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/16/09 at 14:02:53 MAN IN BLACK: All right: where is the poison? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right and who is dead. VIZZINI: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you. Are you the sort of man who would put the poison into his own goblet, or his enemy's? VIZZINI: Now, a clever man would put the poison into his own goblet, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I'm not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool; you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. MAN IN BLACK: You've made your decision then7 VIZZINI: Not remotely. Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows. And Australia is entirely peopled with criminals. And criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. MAN IN BLACK: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect. VIZZINI: Wait till I get going! Where was I? MAN IN BLACK: Australia. VIZZINI: Yes -- Australia, and you must have suspected I would have known the powder's origin, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. MAN IN BLACK: You're just stalling now. VIZZINI: (cackling) You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've beaten my giant, which means you're exceptionally strong. So, you could have put the poison in your own goblet, trusting on your strength to save you. So I can clearly not choose the wine in front of you. But, you've also bested my Spaniard which means you must have studied. And in studying, you must have learned that man is mortal so you would have put the poison as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the wine in front of me. MAN IN BLACK: You're trying to trick me into giving away something -- it won't work -- VIZZINI: It has worked -- you've given everything away -- I know where the poison is. MAN IN BLACK: Then make your choice. VIZZINI: I will. And I choose ---- what in the world can that be? MAN IN BLACK: What? Where? I don't see anything. VIZZINI: Oh, well, I-I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. MAN IN BLACK: What's so funny? VIZZINI: I'll tell you in a minute. First, let's drink -- me from my glass, and you from yours. MAN IN BLACK: You guessed wrong. VIZZINI: You only think I guessed wrong -- that's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned. You fool. VIZZINI: You fell victim to one of the classic blunders. The most famous is "Never get involved in a land war in Asia." But only slightly less well known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line." He laughs and roars and cackles and whoops and is in all ways quite cheery until he falls over dead. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/16/09 at 14:21:55 unvote Vote: Enigmatic Cam Shifty, frequently changing vote, claimed that Goose was "definitely" town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/16/09 at 14:39:11 I'm just trying to be active in an otherwise unclear void, gauging people's reactions. Only way to get people to talk is to talk yourself. Untove Vote: Howes In his claim that I frequently change votes, he ties me for vote changes! Definitely suspicious |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by . on 12/16/09 at 14:42:54 apparently the self destruct shit is still enabled on me. fuck this took me 4 attempts to send this message...a long time on a slow connection |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Zarkov on 12/16/09 at 14:47:13 vote: MVT For being a nublar. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/16/09 at 14:47:20 674A4D5E454C442B0 wrote:
Vote Christophe He is trying to act like a towny (using the fake advices other people gave). I'm sure he has something to hide... Too many mistakes from you already :D |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/16/09 at 14:52:11 Forgot to say something in my previous post: @ Christophe, do you have any reasons for voting against me or is it just bandwagoning? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/16/09 at 15:01:26 Flo - the reason people vote for you is because you can't speak English. Not necessarily because they are mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Brutus on 12/16/09 at 15:02:03 Kill Flo! He doesn't deserve to play! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/16/09 at 15:11:10 The Rules (...) DO NOT POST IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE GAME. you should be banned Brutus... And, @ Timothy, I don't think Christophe voted against me for that reason... He is not kiddy enough. And stop reproaching me to not speak english well enough! I don't live in an english speaking country... So, I agree, that my english is not perfect... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/16/09 at 16:07:20 Can I vote for MVT without being called a bandwagoner? Clark's reasoning is sound. ;D |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/16/09 at 16:47:50 Who is Christophe? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/16/09 at 17:00:37 Vote: Joe Tom Joe and Tyler have yet to post in the game, but I'm pretty sure someone else will vote for Tyler to get him in here talking, and Tom will come in on his own because he loves the game. Defend yourself Joe. ;) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Fababu on 12/16/09 at 17:04:55 @Goose: Cristophe is El Niño. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/16/09 at 17:10:23 Matt V: Tyler DID make a post on the first page, I don't know if you missed it or not. As of right now I really don't know who to vote for, I'm terrible at this game. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/16/09 at 17:11:42 Shit, you're right. I missed it. Then again, there were new posts when I came back, that apparently came before mine. It mindfucked me. But I obviously still made the right vote. ;) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/16/09 at 18:50:27 MVT, i'm working on getting you to be able to post in here without any selfdestructs or retries. same to sean and jamie if they're having the same trouble (idk of anyone else with a ban). vote counts in a couple hours. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/16/09 at 20:11:15 0E362B2A2D06093538203C2B061C2F3C2B590 wrote:
I posted earlier and even voted for Dave Smith. Nothing earth shattering yet. I'm contemplating voting for tom because he hasn't came on here and claimed he was town yet. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/16/09 at 20:18:19 This isn't a defense, but Tom probably doesn't know that this is happening. He hasn't been online since before KoopZ announced when the game would be starting. Weak post by Brett, at this point, no one (except the mafia) knows who to vote for, so you're not really saying much there, unless you're mafia?!? I'll be watching... [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by . on 12/16/09 at 21:02:44 I know who to vote for and I'm not mafia. :-? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/16/09 at 22:28:01 Vote Counts Tim - Kmacc, Sean Kmacc - (Tim) Dave Smith - Sportsguy, MVT Goose - (Howes) Flo - (Cam), Christophe MVT - (Cam), Howes Cam - Goose Sean - Tim Howes - Cam Christophe - Flo Joe - Matt V Vote Totals Tim [2] Dave Smith [2] Flo [1] MVT [1] Cam [1] Sean [1] Howes [1] Christophe [1] Joe [1] With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. The Day ends in 35.5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/16/09 at 23:46:50 You are missing Howes' vote for Cam. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/17/09 at 00:00:30 wow this is faggotries. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Eoj on 12/17/09 at 02:23:42 417964656249467A776F73644953607364160 wrote:
I bowl in leagues on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday nights, and last night happened to be Wednesday night, making me unable to be around a computer for hours. I checked the board earlier today when there were 20 posts or so; saw nothing worthwhile to contribute, so instead of posting for the sake of posting, I decided to wait it out and see what develops. Pretty much what I do for every Mafia game... Nothing is really going on thus far instead of the traditional Flo bashing, which is inevitable. Nothing good ever comes from it, so I'm posting just to defend myself, not to give any input on the actions currently taking place. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by The Gaff on 12/17/09 at 03:40:34 Vote Timothy His first couple of posts weren't very strong/conclusive. I'll keep it on him unless he can convince me otherwise. Hint hint Tim. I'm town again but dont mind so much. Would be good if i could last in this game. I dont know to much about Zedla, as a seasoned gamer its weird that i've never completed a Zelda game, even though i own four of them. Its all good though as i'm on wiki now learning more about the characters etc. got a few thoughts on some people but i want to keep them for now. its a bit gay not sharing but i want to see how day 1 pans out. Goose, you town? [smiley=chairshot.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/17/09 at 06:38:01 6965657A797E6F780A0 wrote:
I never voted for MVT... :-? I voted for Cam. I need to read through the topic a time or two before I do anything else. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 06:58:40 unvote I'm in a bowling league, and I'm bowling tonight, so I find your reasoning valid. ;) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/17/09 at 08:19:29 I'm not much of a jump to conclusions kind of guy without some sort of decent evidence and I've been waiting a while to catch something that seemed out of place, but I see nothing substantial within these accusations. This is my first mafia game and seeing how this seems to be how it works I shall cast my vote! Prepares the flame shield VOTE: GOOSE -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/17/09 at 08:44:35 fixed and updated. hopefully i wont make mistakes every time. :( Vote Counts Tim - Kmacc, Sean, Tom Kmacc - (Tim) Dave Smith - Sportsguy, MVT Goose - (Howes), Clay Flo - (Cam), Christophe MVT - (Cam) Cam - Goose, Howes Sean - Tim Howes - Cam Christophe - Flo Joe - (Matt V) Vote Totals Tim [3] Dave Smith [2] Cam [2] Flo [1] Sean [1] Howes [1] Christophe [1] With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. The Day ends in 25.25 hours. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 08:51:23 Tom voted Tim aswell. Lets bandwagon and kill him! :) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 08:52:22 My suspicious list: Joe - Who makes one post and publicly admits to unwillingness to contribute? Mafia! Jamie - Has made 2 worthless posts that don't contribute anything. Kmacc - First to vote, but after 3 pages, hasn't posted anything. Brett - Ambivalent with the excuse that he isn't good at mafia. Unvote Vote: Pistaker Let's hear something worthwhile. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by . on 12/17/09 at 09:06:38 I think I have pegged 2 mafia already. Howes and Dave Smith. If I die at night, you know these 2 are both mafia. ;D Howes post attacking Brett bothered me. The reasoning was really poor. If you are going to vote for someone just to vote for them this early in the game, then do that. If you are going to try to make a constructive argument against someone who has made 1-2 posts so far it better be a damn good one or else it is suspicious in my eyes. Therefore Howes is suspicious. But I will keep my vote on Dave Smith. I want him to contribute something worthy for the town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 09:09:15 Missed Dave Smith. I agree, I would like to see more from him. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/17/09 at 09:15:09 5F6A6A7148646B5D050 wrote:
This is eager enough for me to change my vote. Mindlessly killing whomever because they have votes pinned against them without enough evidence shows reckless behavior and disregard for the outcome or inside information. Therefore, either way, he endangers the chances of townies winning. UNVOTE: Goose VOTE: ZootManX -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 09:20:22 Reckless? Mindless? I started the bandwagon so I want him gone. Tim's initial eagerness made me do this, are you trying to defend him now? You have 5 minutes to respond. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 09:23:52 Can I trust you MVT? I need a partner. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 09:30:57 This isn't Survivor. How can you two be so sure of each other this early in the game? I smell a conspiracy. But I'm sticking to my vote on Jamie for now. We still have 24 hours left and I want everyone to contribute. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 09:33:15 Well Tim is definitely mafia I can feel it, then Magikoopa comes in sort of defending him so that me be a possible lead tomorrow. To those of you who think I'm bandwagoning and agree with this MagiKoopa MORTz, at the end of the day, I want him gone coz I MAKE IT SO |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 09:40:00 If one or more of the mafia were part of the group, it'd be way too easy for them to idle on the sidelines, voting with the group against people for no other reason than that they are part of the group. I want votes to count, I want people's votes to be accompanied with reason. The fact that you are so eager to build a mindless group of disciples puts a huge target on you in my eyes. Unvote Vote: MVT He's obviously mafia. Zoot, you're next. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 09:42:41 But MVT said I could trust him? :'( |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 09:46:38 Tim is the key. Clay must of been trying to protect him. I swear boys he must be mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 09:53:55 I was being serious about the partner thing MVT, it worked well with me and the Gaff. With the power of 2, we can could take over the whole board but lets win this game first. ;) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by El Niño on 12/17/09 at 09:56:09 ;D at Flo voting for me, confirms my doubts (or not!). I will only say one thing, I like vanilla. -Christophe. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/17/09 at 10:10:00 6677425541424453644E55444B42270 wrote:
What needs to be said has already been said. Theirs no need for me to parrot. If your gonna vote for me, and im not mafia, then i will vote for you as your clearly trying to start the bandwagoning on me. I'll vote for you just because of that reason. Vote EnigmaticCam edit: now i see you starting on someone else. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:11:40 You have to bold your vote Jamie. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/17/09 at 10:12:35 your eager to get enigmatic out of the way matt? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:14:53 No, I'm telling you if you want him out of the way you gotta bold it. If I wanted Cam gone I'd vote for him. Not saying I don't want him gone either though. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/17/09 at 10:16:05 i had already bolded it before you posted a reply you know. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:19:47 Sorry, my computer has been slow as of late. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 10:19:52 lol this game is heating up. Everyones shook haha! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 10:21:20 Mvt: I don't know, that seems like a cop-out. Throw the idea out there, see what happens, if you get called out, play it like you were joking. That's what it looks like to me, but I'm willing to admit I could be wrong. Jamie: You haven't said anything worthwhile. You don't think this is a good reason to get a vote or two so early in the game? Parroting what has already been said isn't as bad as not saying anything at all, cuz it at least give us something. You seem rather defensive. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:21:28 Vote: Brett I suck at mafia too, but that's not a valid excuse for being town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/17/09 at 10:21:42 Remaining Players 1. Brett Two posts from Brett so far. One was stating who MVT was, while also expressing surprise that he was first in an alphabetical list. The second was stating that Tyler made a post on page 1, and stating that he doesn't know who to vote for, which, as I stated before, is weak. It would be stating the obvious for town, and a blatant lie to cover up ineptitude as mafia. Neither one of those helps town, so he must be mafia. 2. Cam Claims a meeting to cover up absence, then throws a random vote on MVT for some random reason. Throws a random vote on me for switching votes to him. Goose had a good post about why Cam is suspicious on page 2 (post #33). On page 3, shows suspicion of people who have been less active, which is a classic mafia tactic to get an easy kill. Votes for MVT in his last post for his idiotic 'vote as a group' tactic, which is solid, but is obvious reasoning. Conclusion: mafia. 3. Christophe (El Nino) Christophe starts off with a post very similar to Cam, stating that he won't be here for a while, but also states that he doesn't necessarily have all the Zelda knowledge that he might need. It's his first mafia game, so he has the excuse that he has no clue what he's doing, but that's no excuse for stating that you have added specifications for your role. Obviously mafia. 4. Clay (Magikoopa) Starts off with some monologue about the "wine in front of me", which is a classic mafia move to confuse those onto them. Next he votes for Goose, saying that he has no clue what's going on, since it's his first mafia game too. Votes for Sean next, claiming that his sarcastic comment about lynching Tim is overenthusiastic about killing. Uses logic that I might use at times, so logically, he's mafia. 5. Dave Smith Posted once, saying to think of him as Tom. Tom's always suspicious in these games, so we should obviously suspect Dave, so he's also mafia. 6. Flo Flo suspects Christophe for no apparent reason in his first post. Then Flo (correctly) states that Christophe should have posted his question to Koopz in a PM. Votes for Christophe after Christophe votes for him. Then spouts nonsense with MVT until the end of the first page, and leaves. No sign of him since then, so he must be hiding with the rest of the mafia. 7. Gaff Made one post on page 3 about how Tim is suspicious. Then says he knows more, but isn't going to tell us, saying he will wait out Day 1. He's being abnormally quiet, so he's mafia. 8. Goose Posted music, posted an attack on Cam (which made good sense), posted that he was doing naughty things with some Zelda girls, posted asking who Christophe is, and posts wondering where my vote for Cam was in the votecount. Well, he's mafia too. 9. Howes I know that I'm town, but MVT says that I must be mafia, so let's go with that. It's not like he's done this in other games when I've been town or anything... ::) 10. Jamie (Pistaker) Jamie flames Sean, and pulls the faggotry card on KoopZ. Since he's not spamming the topic, he must be mafia trying to hide. 11. Joe (Eoj) Has made one post so far claiming a bowling league for his lack of posts. He's been silent, so obviously is mafia hiding from town. 12. Kmacc See Joe. Also mafia. 13. Matt V Has he posted anything with content so far? All of his posts seem to be questions of other people. He's obviously mafia looking for townies to answer in order to distort their words. 14. MVT (.) Probably the most active poster. He's complaining about all sorts of things, and making posts that are decidedly not serious in an admittedly serious manner. Also, he suspects me, so he's mafia as well. 15. Sean (Zootmanx) Sean has been posting back and forth almost as much as MVT. It seems they are having a little dialogue, that almost seems planned. Mafia collaboration, perhaps? 16. Tim Tim hasn't posted much, but that's to be expected due to his usual schedule. Posts stating that people are voting for Flo because of his bad English skills, which, while true, is also stating the obvious and a classic mafia tool. 17. Tyler (Sportsguy) Tyler has made several posts, but had disappeared from many people's radar. Classic mafia attempt to blend in. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:23:39 That post made me lol. It helps nothing, since apparently we all must be mafia. But by calling himself mafia as well, he is making a "classic attempt at blending in." And you're also giving me shit for not flatout saying I'm town, which is because nobody has questioned me yet, and obviously it goes without saying everyone will insist they are town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 10:23:43 ^lol. Well I guess we're all mafia now. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/17/09 at 10:25:42 Now that that's out there... Mafia is Jamie, Tom, Flo and Cam. However, since I have no good evidence of this yet, I advocate a no lynch, since clearly no one has any idea what is going on, and there is no clear mafia for us to lynch yet. unvote Vote: No lynch btw Christophe, if you're a town vanilla, you don't want to tell people that. The mafia tends to see it, and use that information to have a better chance at killing power players. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/17/09 at 10:26:44 Quote:
Well my first vote was literally to just get involved as everyone else has. Goose wasnt on the list so I voted for him. I changed my vote when I saw eagerness on the part of Zoot and I explained my reasoning within my post. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/17/09 at 10:27:23 why do people presume im mafia because im the obvious troll. i would indirectly quote my role, but i have a "good" town role. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/17/09 at 10:29:12 Going to make a good post shortly, I just felt the need to defend myself. I spent all day yesterday (my birthday btw) writing a thesis paper and studying for two finals which I had this morning. I didn't quite have the time to post because of that. I only have one more final (monday), but that doesn't require so much studying. That should mean that I can invest more time, excluding other random things I have to do of course. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 10:29:26 Howes: We still have almost a full 24 hours left. I think that's plenty of time to pressure more people into talking. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/17/09 at 10:30:34 I dunno what you're trying to pull Zootman - the only reason you seemed to vote for me was because I told you your vote needed to be bolded for it to count. If you are a townie, you're going to totally fuck up the town by pushing for non sensical lynches like mine. Also, Gaff, I expected more of you - usually you don't make such bullshit posts on day 1. You're mafia in my eyes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:30:39 Jamie, stop offending the trolls of the world. ;) I'm still waiting for Brett to come post some information. I'm waiting on Kevin too, but I didn't want anyone calling me on some bandwagon bullshit. ::) Oops sorry, I didn't see your post till after I posted Kevin, disregard the stuff about you. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/17/09 at 10:34:52 536B7677705B5468657D61765B41726176040 wrote:
Exactly. There is nothing to gain from either side from insisting they are mafia. If a mafia does it then they are either trying to use that ploy as a decoy and assuming everyone wouldnt think they werent that stupid. If a townie does it it doesnt solve anything but further confusing everyone so that there is no consensus on who to lynch. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 10:36:00 Alright in all seriousness Tim. I do suspect you, but tbh i'd rather get this day out of the way as despite all the banter; nothing can be achieved. I'd rather have a crack at someone who I think is mafia (out of everyone) then do nothing at all. However as long as its faster, if everyone is up for a no lynch then so am I. I am a pretty impatient person. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/17/09 at 10:37:07 Exactly, so you don't "know" I'm mafia, and you're instinct could not be more wrong. Like I just said, that careless play will totally fuck up the town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:37:09 A no lynch idea seems pretty suspicious because it's one less chance for us to get rid of Mafia... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/17/09 at 10:42:07 I know but 9 out of 10 times we get rid of town anyway. Best Scenario: Random votes lead to a mafia lynch, townie dies at night. Scenario #2: We No lynch, mafia kill townie at night. Worst Case Scenario: We lynch a townie, then mafia kill townie at night. Down 2 already. Its always a risk, so what do we want to do gentlemen? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/17/09 at 10:43:14 if mafia gets 25 kill steak, wtf happens |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:50:46 I still think it's a weird. suspicious. But AHowes started it, although I dunno how serious he was about it. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:52:55 And as I said, he's pushing for a no-lynch, which gives the mafia an advantage. But I think he knows how to play the game better than that, so I'm still hesitant. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 10:55:00 There are still people who haven't talked. Vote "no lynch" and a smart mafia will just off someone who hasn't said anything, and we're back to square one. Pressure people into talking. Unvote Vote: Dave Smith I still think MVT's group idea was very suspicious, but we still have people who aren't talking. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 10:55:12 I'm going to eat, then errands and work, so I won't be back on here for about 7 hours. So don't accuse me of acting quiet when I'm gone. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Adam L on 12/17/09 at 11:09:35 73544C5E483B0 wrote:
This is the best post in the history of mafia posts |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by shadow on 12/17/09 at 11:15:45 http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/17/09 at 11:16:45 Howes can't be mafia taking that much time writing out that long post. Scott did this in one of the first mafia games and he was town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 11:18:24 I did the same thing one time, claiming everyone was town. I was mafia at the time. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/17/09 at 11:35:56 I was looking through the posts between Sean and MVT a page or so back. To me, it really seems more so like goofing off. I honestly don't think they'd be seriously putting themselves out there in that way if they were mafia, unless it was some crazy reverse psychology trick. Doesn't really seem like anything to keep too much of an eye on. Howes seems somewhat suspicious now imo. I know his long post was a joke, but everyone seemed to take it humorously and such. This could be a possible ploy to take attention off of himself by having you guys think of the joke rather than his suspiciousness when you try to associate something with him. Howes also advocated for a no lynch, which is always a terrible idea. If you no lynch, you learn absolutely nothing from all of the work that you put into the day. Someone mentioned that the mafia will just kill someone who wasn't active and we will be back to where we started. Edit: Just adding this in: unvote |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Eoj on 12/17/09 at 13:36:07 I personally don't think Cam is up to anything fishy, but it's still early, and I could be totally wrong. In these earlier days it's crucial to not say "I'm sticking with this guy" because it's so easy to be duped by the mafia early on. You never want to be deadset on a person's status in the first day, and you always want to be thinking twice about people's posts. If you find me suspicious then say so, and hopefully you can get me (and other people) to get more information out into the open. That's the point of the game, and so far it's not happening all that much... As far as my suspicions, in the first day I always want to see what Tom has to say, because he's usually very, very active in trying to put pressure on people. This game? Not so much. So before I put a vote on him, I just want to see a little more out of him than the usual, "I'm town again ffs!!" post. And Dave, come on buddy, where are you? You're killing yourself by not talking. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 14:02:00 Woot, got an hour before bowling. Also, I'd like to point out I was the first one to mention Tom's suspicious inactivity. He could be Mafia. And I'm willing to bet at least one out of Zoot and MVT are Mafia. They are trying to team up, which can easily be a ploy to keep a Mafia member alive. I'm betting that Cooper made Goose and I a couple as planned, which means I think he is town and I trust his judgement. But should it prove false, then... ... K wtf? I don't have any of the bold or underline or smileys on the page to stick in my post. :/ Vote: Cam |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 14:03:49 I hated being mafia the past few times I played. I felt like I had to craft all my posts and was constantly afraid to say the wrong thing. I ended up not posting as often, but usually with larger posts (like Howes' long-ass post). But now that I'm town, I'm loving it and in turn am the most active person in the thread. That has to mean something. Time is ticking away and people still have only one post. I'm looking at you, Dave and Gaff! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 14:06:02 Matt, a nice post that also avoids explaining your vote at the bottom. What's up with that? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 14:08:45 Ffs, I always vote for someone, but then I read something again and it makes me think again in a different way. And my indecision always makes people think I'm mafia, when I'm not. Be that as it may, I unvote once again. A mafia member would have nothing to gain by going against the no-lynch idea, and just the general fact that everyone is going after you Cam, makes me wonder about your innocence. I will most likely cast one of the last votes, so nobody better accuse me of bandwagoning, I'm tellin ya right now. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 14:13:53 UGH THE NO LYNCH STRAT TWO CASES CASE 1; LYNCH Day 1 - TOWN picks who to kill Night 1 - MAFIA picks who to kill Day 2 - TOWN picks who to kill Night 2 - MAFIA picks who to kill Day 3 - TOWN picks who to kill Night 3 - MAFIA picks who to kill TIE game with EQUAL advantages CASE 2; NO LYNCH Day 1 - NO death Night 1 - MAFIA picks who to kill Day 2 - TOWN picks who to kill Night 2 - MAFIA picks who to kill Day 3 - TOWN picks who to kill Night 3 - MAFIA picks who to kill Mafia leads with 3 town kills PLUS possibly two more depending on who town kills (most likely they kill town.) SO IN CONCLUSION, NO LYNCH IS GIVING THE MAFIA THE UPPER HAND. YOU GUYS ARE ALL FUCKTARDED Honestly everyone who thinks no lynch is a good idea is a FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT FUCKING IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 14:17:57 I should vote Goose for calling me fucktarded. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 14:19:57 As Samuel L Jackson says in Pulp Fiction, "I hate to shatter your ego but this ain't the first time I've had a gun pointed at me." |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 14:25:36 As Gollum says in The Lord Of The Rings, "Kill him, kill him." |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 14:34:39 Bowling time, back in a few hours. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/17/09 at 14:50:58 Sorry for the late reply guys. I got home from school not too long ago and had quite a bit of homework to do. Enough with that though. Howes is mafia, has to be. That long post suggesting that everyone else could be mafia doesn't help out the town any, and also, like Goose said, voting for no lynch means that the mafia can kill us all off one by one at night time and they will most likely win. I don't care if you vote for me because of it. I am town, and granted that proves nothing as everyone on this board will claim that they are town whether or not that is true, but I am going to say it anyway. He goes after me when I had just made two completely irrelevant posts which helps out neither side. Convince me otherwise. Edit: Vote: AHowes Sorry I spelled his name without the A the first time and I wanted to make sure my vote counted. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/17/09 at 14:53:20 Have you even played mafia before Brett? :-? Also, Kmacc, what's with the defence about not posting? No one had even suggested you were attempting something fishy. EH? EH? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/17/09 at 15:00:38 Tim: Unless you count that last game that ended in a big failure (I can't remember who hosted it), then no, I have never played a mafia before. I have read up on several of the previous topics before though, including the LOST mafia and the girl mafia. Can't remember any others off hand. MVT: Lets just say for example that a no lynch happened. The mafia could kill us one by one at night, and we would run out of players first. However, killing a mafia the first day would give us a good advantage, so we might as well just go for it. A no lynch would put the mafia in a very favorable position to win this game, which as a townie, I don't want to happen of course. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 15:07:14 I feel like Howes is a good first kill tonight. There are many who voted him first thing, and a few who have defended him. It will be very interesting to find out who he is. But until then, my vote still stays on Dave, for as long as he doesn't talk. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/17/09 at 15:18:27 About my no lynch vote: People always go against the no lynch, but I was seeing what the reaction would be. There are many new or inexperienced players in this game, so one of them might have slipped up. Also, the reactions of the old players can show us who leans which way. Didn't you think I knew that there wasn't a snowball's chance in hell of a no lynch motion going through? 6D5C55556D58555C390 wrote:
deliberate attempt to confuse the town?[/quote] Nope, that was a deliberate attempt at sarcasm. There's some quality analysis in there if you know where to look (and if you take out all the claims that people are mafia). 0B1A2F382C2F293E09233829262F4A0 wrote:
Smart townies don't tell mafia what smart mafia members do 8-) 0716233420232532052F34252A23460 wrote:
If I remember correctly, in several games the biggest spammers were the mafia (MVT comes to mind ::) ). Bullshit excuse imo. Cam is mafia. End of story. He continually tries to associate himself as town, targets those who are quiet (EASY KILLS!), and in general, posts suspiciously. Don't fall for his antics. unvote Vote: EnigmaticCam Oh, and look what popped up while I was typing this: Quote:
Let's see who are the 'Many who voted him first thing': EnigmaticCam, BrettMK. Both of you are grasping at straws trying to find some way to defend yourselves, which is usually the mark of a mafia member. Town shouldn't be as worried about being voted off, as it would show voting trends among the players, and hopefully would reveal who the mafia. Town can rely on the rest of the townies, while the mafia knows just how limited of a number they are. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/17/09 at 15:26:25 @Tim: 1A0B3E293D3E382F18322938373E5B0 wrote:
Cam thought I was suspicious for not posting, so I explained myself. Anyway, I'm off to a Christmas party for work, hopefully will be back later tonight. Howes is suspicious for sure but I will hold off my vote for now and try to make a good vote tonight. Even on the first day, I don't like taking a random stab in the dark unless someone has made it obvious they are mafia, or we have some deadweight to cut off. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 16:05:42 Dave hasn't been on since his only post yesterday. Gaff was on several hours after his only post. Unvote Vote: Gaff Not only has he not made any posts despite being online and available to make them, his first post wasn't very convincing, compared to all his other "I'm town again" posts in the other mafia games. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 18:07:49 I bowled like shit so don't piss me off or I'll vote for you. ;D |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 18:08:07 07363F3F07323F36530 wrote:
You're a COMPLETE IDIOT. LET ME DRAW IT OUT FOR YOU YOU FUCKING TOOL. ------------------------------------------------------------ Case 1a: Town Lynches Town on Day 1 Day 1: Town = Dead Night1: Town = Dead Day 2: Town or Mafia = Dead Night2: Town = Dead Day 3: Town or Mafia = Dead So we have 3 dead towns and 0-2 dead mafias after the first three interactions. Case 1b: Town Lynches Mafia on Day 1 Day 1: Mafia = Dead Night1: Town = Dead Day 2: Town or Mafia = Dead Night2: Town = Dead Day 3: Town or Mafia = Dead So now we have only 2 sure dead towns and up to 3 dead mafias. Case 2: NO LYNCH ON DAY 1 Night1: Town = Dead Day 2: Town or Mafia = Dead Night2: Town = Dead Day 3: Town or Mafia = Dead Night3: Town = Dead Again, we have three sure Town deaths and up to 2 mafia kills. So what happens on day 1? Lynch town is just as bad as not lynching at all. BUT IF THERE IS A LYNCH... It might be mafia! Then town has the upper hand! NO LYNCH = SURE THING MAFIA HAS UPPER HAND LYNCHING A TOWNIE = NO LYNCH AT ALL. THEY GIVE THE EXACT SAME OUTCOME... BUT DOING A LYNCH ON DAY 1 GIVES YOU A CHANCE AT KILLING A MAFIA FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING IDIOT YOU ARE SO FUCKING STUPID HOW CAN YOU NOT DO THIS? ITS SIMPLE FUCKING MATH. "Inaction is slavery, freedom is choice." -Nelson Mandela The most important people to have ever lived know that INACTION is bad. Idle hands are hands of the Devil. You have to be doing something at ALL TIMES to SURVIVE and PROSPER in this life. THE MATH IN THIS GAME PROVES IT SO FUCKING SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND LYNCH SOMEBODY ON DAY 1 BECAUSE YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT IF YOU DO OTHERWISE Well you might not be an idiot... you might just be a mafia trying to sabotage us. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 18:10:28 I am legitimately *THIS* close to voting for . (Clark?) because his math is SO BAD at this game OR he is mafia. Giving again one of the Monty Hall problems I discussed to death in the Pokemon mafia game. But anyways, sticking with Cam. Cam dies on Day 1 . goes on Day 2. End of story. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 18:12:49 Your long post annoyed me. Vote: Goose, my tall sexy brother. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 18:14:40 TO REITERATE ONE LAST TIME, THE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES AFTER 5 ACTIONS 1. LYNCH A MAFIA, 2 sure town deaths, up to 3 mafia deaths T2. LYNCH A TOWN, 3 sure town deaths, up to 2 mafia deaths T2. NO LYNCH AT ALL, 3 sure town deaths, up to 2 mafia deaths Do you want a chance at 3 mafia deaths? DO YOU? DO YOU WANT TO WIN THIS FUCKING GAME LIKE I DO? OR ARE YOU JUST IN IT TO FUCKING LOSE IT?!?!?!?!?!? Unless you're a COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOT or a MAFIA, IT IS IN YOUR BEST FUCKING INTEREST TO LYNCH ON DAY 1. LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH CAM DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH CAM DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH CAM DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH ON DAY 1 LYNCH CAM DAY 1 |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 18:16:16 Yeah Clark, you just promoted NO LYNCH rather than voting it... why? Because you're a mafia and you don't want to make it too obvious yet. Unvote Vote: . |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/17/09 at 18:21:17 Goose, . is MVT. Clark is Zarkov, and isn't in the game (although he had a good post during page 2? or so) Change your vote back to Cam, otherwise Cam can change his vote to you to put you ahead. Yes, 3 votes puts you in first place for voting. People with 2 votes right now: MVT (the period), Cam, Goose, ZootManX (Sean), and Timothy. Vote for CAM, not MVT. MVT we can worry about later. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 18:27:49 Okay fine. That vote for MVT was a bit of an uncontrolled emotional outburst. Unvote Vote: Cam But MVT goes next. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 18:55:08 There's no point in maintaining a vote on someone not contributing when Howes is obviously mafia. Makes a giant post claiming everyone is mafia, says it's sarcasm but that there's "some quality analysis in there if you know where to look." That's retarded. If you're really for town, you'd make your "quality analysis" obvious, and not muddled with attempts at sarcasm that get us nowhere. It's just a means to confuse us, which has mafia written all over it. Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 20:33:53 Which should we get rid of? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/17/09 at 20:35:32 Honestly, the giant post started out as legitimate analysis, but that slowed down once I realized that by my (incomplete and skewed) analysis, the first 3 people were mafia. In case you haven't noticed, I posted about halfway down page 6 with some analysis for my actions so far. But you wouldn't address that anyway, since that analysis is conveniently about you. 0720382A3C4F0 wrote:
My updated thoughts about people so far (after 7 pages): 1. Brett Honestly, Brett doesn't understand the game very much right now. He's only played in Jamie's doomed game, and has no real experience. He votes for me for "going after him" when I really just mentioned his name a few times. Brett could be on either side right now. 2. Cam Cam is one of the most active posters this game. He also seems to have a very hard time deciding who to suspect. Out of his 20 posts, he has voted in 8 of them. He's waffled, continued to associate himself with 'town', and has attacked me repeatedly. He has also ignored all accusations and observations about his play, instead opting to accuse someone else. Notable post: 7160554256555344735942535C55300 wrote:
3. Christophe (El Niño) Christophe is a self-admitted vanilla townie (while not in those words). He is inexperienced (one of many), but hasn't had any bad posts so far. 4. Clay Clay is also new to the game of mafia. He random voted, changed votes quickly to an actual suspicion, and was questioned for it. He seems to get the general idea. Status: undecided. 5. Dave Smith Dave has made one post so far, and hasn't been around since. Can't get much analysis from that other than undecided. 6. Flo Flo is as eager as ever, but that doesn't reveal too much about him. Solid posts so far, but still inconclusive. 7. The Gaff Tom only has one post so far. Hasn't made any posts since then. It's still inconclusive with him too. 8. Goose Personally, I think Goose and I are just thinking on the same level today. He noticed the same things as I did earlier with Cam, and honestly I just trust him more than anyone else at this point. He claimed to be basically vanilla town. 9. Howes I am vanilla town. End of story. 10. Jamie Jamie is slightly less active than I would have expected, and has made only one vote. Weak claim to be a town power, but largely inconclusive. 11. Joe (Eoj) Joe has two posts so far, one explaining his absence (which I had no problem with), and one with a weak defense of Cam, where he says he doesn't find him suspicious, all while keeping Cam as far away from him as possible. I would interpret this as mafia trying to avoid having to lynch one of their own, while not being associated with them. I'm pretty sure KoopZ did something like this last game, defending Cam. My prediction: 65% chance he's mafia. 12. Kmacc Kmacc was quiet for most of the first day, but has made a few revealing posts since then. He has been pushing on me for the most part. The most I can think of is that this could be a mafia effort to attempt to put suspicion on me. This post was interesting to me (at least the part I'm quoting to save space): 4C4A464444270 wrote:
The part about obvious mafia or dead weight is most intriguing. Everyone would like to do that, but that's not always how it works out. Conveniently, those are also the two options that allow mafia to blend in with the town. Either they sacrifice one of their own, or they bandwagon with the town to vote off someone that helps their own cause. 13. Matt V Most of his posts have been dialogue with others, as opposed to analysis. Nothing wrong with that, since it gives us a good idea of his stances. (For the record: in my last giant post, I stated that he hadn't posted content at that point; I was really too lazy to read through all of his posts.) Matt has the most posts so far. Several of these were dialogue with Goose, which resulted in a frustration vote for Goose in the end. Could go either way, although I'm leaning slightly towards town. I'm under 500 characters left, so this will be continued in another posts with analysis on the remaining 4 people shortly (as soon as I can post again) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/17/09 at 20:37:00 14. MVT Ah, MVT. We always seem to get into these battles of wits during mafia. The thing is, every time MVT has been mafia, I've been able to sense it immediately. He has a harsh style of posting, where he is accusatory in order to win. His first few posts this time were just waffling with Flo, and weren't anything 15. Sean (ZootmanX) I'd say Sean is the most challenging person to read right now. He bantered with MVT for a while, and took the no lynch idea seriously. He suspects Tim right now, and seems intent on getting him out. I have no clue what side he's on, but I'm hoping it's town. 16. Tim I think I picked up a lot about Timothy's playstyle last time. He'll hang back in the beginning, digesting things, and keeping mostly quiet. When he posts, what he has to say is usually worth listening to. He's giving off a town vibe right now, so my initial thought would be town. 17. Tyler (sportsguy) Tyler is usually a pretty quiet player, but he has a knack for picking up who is town and mafia. Pretty sure he's town. Final note: Please, don't be intimidated by the frequent posts of a few people. We need your input. Shadow's mafia.cgi (http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi) tool is excellent for keeping track of vote counts, and also for knowing how many posts you've made. I'd suggest posting at least your thoughts if you have under 10 posts. Check in just so we know you're there and haven't gone inactive. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/17/09 at 20:42:54 My dialogue over analysis approach comes from my simple ballsucking at this game. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 21:17:20 Howes and I are proven, great players at this game. We both think MVT and Cam are mafia. Coincidence? Seriously guys... do you have no brains? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/17/09 at 21:27:06 Vote Counts Tim - (Kmacc), Sean, Tom Kmacc - (Tim) Dave Smith - Sportsguy, (MVT), (Cam) Goose - (Howes), (Clay), MVT, Matt V Flo - (Cam), Christophe MVT - (Cam), (Cam), (Goose) Cam - (Goose), (Howes), Pistaker, (Matt V), Howes, Goose Sean - Tim, Clay Howes - (Cam), Brett, Cam Christophe - Flo Joe - (Matt V) Pistaker - (Cam) Brett - (Matt V) No Lynch - (Howes) Gaff - (Cam) Vote Totals Cam [3] Tim [2] Goose [2] Sean [2] Howes [2] Christophe [1] Flo [1] Dave Smith [1] With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Day 1 ends in about 12.5 hours, or when a player as reached 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 21:43:49 Howes, I will admit that THAT post(s) was a lot better than your last. I'm still unsure about you, but for now: Unvote Yes, I change votes a lot. And I will admit I still have no idea who's who, but it's only the first day, and my goal is to vote people into talking. I'm gonna do some rereading, every post in this thread. I want to make sure I haven't missed anybody. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 22:41:22 1. Brett So far, has made a vote only on Howes, for reasons everyone is aware of by now, but was the first to put a vote against him on it. Unsure of Brett at the moment. 3. Christophe (El Nino) 2 posts talking about his PM and lack of understanding of Zelda, puts a vote on Flo and hasn't said anything since. I feel like you're afraid to put yourself out there in the game. Since it's your first, I'll let it go, but we need more people talking 4. Clay (Magikoopa) Doesn't have many posts, but I feel like what he's said so far is reasonable and not mafia-like. 5. Dave Smith Needs...to....post! 6. Flo Seems mafia to me. Has only defended himself in the game, no contribution. 7. Gaff Needs...to...post! 8. Goose Not sure what to think. I agree with his no lynch animosity, but I have a suspicion it's only because he has a target. I can't tell if he's just misguided, or mafia gearing towards a townie. 9. Howes I've made my thoughts on Howes clear. Most suspicious to me right now. 10. Jamie (Pistaker) Ok, maybe Howes is my second most suspicious. Jamie hasn't contributed anything, yet has a number of posts. Screams mafia to me. 11. Joe (Eoj) Joe, I appreciate his defending me, but I feel like he's just bandwagoning. I agree with what he's said, but he's only so far picked on the 2 easiest targets: Gaff and Dave. We've got 7 pages now! Mafia, I think 12. Kmacc I expected more from Kmacc. Seems to be taking the easy side with very neutral posts like Joe. Mafia also, I think. 13. Matt V Definitely town, in my eyes. This reasoning won't mean much now, but it might if I'm lynched off later: the heat is on me, but he's still hesitant because he thinks he's not as good in the game. If he were mafia, I feel like he'd be joining in with Goose and Howes. It could be a ploy to alienate himself though, so not 100% innocent. 14. MVT Joe seems to think his group idea was just playful banter. I'm reviewing his posts, and perhaps I can agree with that now. So far, besides that one post, I agree with everything he's said. He's contirbuted a lot. Seems very townish to me. 15. Sean (Zootmanx) First post role claims always seems more suspicious than fecetious to me. And he's focused on Tim for some reason, or should I say, no reason? He hasn't made that clear. Lots of posts, but I don't feel like he's contributing. Seems mafia. 16. Tim Focused on players not many other people are focusing on, like Zoot and even kmacc. Town I think 17. Tyler (Sportsguy) Mafia. Hasn't said much of anything, and defended Howes' first big post! I want to hear more from him. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/17/09 at 22:46:23 And I'm off to bed. I will be back at work tomorrow before the day ends, but if for some reason there's an emergency at work, I may not be able to get to the thread before that. Just in case that happens, I think I'll leave without any votes just to be safe. But if I make it here before the day ends, that most likely will change. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/17/09 at 23:36:37 Cam. Your post is pretty good and has somewhat swayed me towards the thought that you might be town. I don't want to take my vote off you quite yet, but if you see this when you get back from work and vote for MVT I will unvote you and vote for MVT since he is another one who I think is suspicious. Plus, you've already voted for him too. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/17/09 at 23:51:56 05282F3C272E26490 wrote:
unvote because you are new, means that you don't know how townies are called and how mafia are called. (except if you asked someone else already and put this just to appear more town... ::)) I may have mistaken on you. ;) I'll read the rest of the posts now. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/17/09 at 23:58:49 Ok, so many suspicions on Cam. But I think Dave Smith is too silent to not appear mafia. This is a good way to act to get forgotten. Vote: Dave Smith I really want to see what he has to say to defend himself. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/18/09 at 00:21:41 The only time people were "smart" enough to kill me early because I'm so good at this game, I was town and the townies ended up losing. You sure you wanna lose this game again MVT? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Eoj on 12/18/09 at 01:01:42 Goose's posting style this game has been a lot like MVT's previous games, and that has always, ALWAYS confused me on which side MVT was on. MVT makes a billion posts a game declaring all of these statements and forcing people to make decisions, when in reality, he's just trying to seem like he's a goodhearted townie out to slay the mafia. I made a mistake in my first mafia game at pushing really, REALLY hard for a Brutus lynch, only to have Brutus turn out to be a town power role. Case in point: don't be fooled by pushy tactics. Try to seriously read between the lines. That being said, I know I haven't been posting a ton, but in the first day, it's really important to try to see what develops between certain players, and trying to gain as much information on them as possible. Sure, it's easy for me to say (since I have a total of 3 posts including this one (making it almost impossible to read into my posts)), but I'm learning a lot from the exchanges between Howes, Cam, Goose, and MVT. Granted, time is running out on the day, so I guess it's time to act. Cam- I defended you before, and I'm going to do the same. You can call it a bandwagon all you want, but I don't see anything in your posts that scream mafia tactics. Despite the long post where you considered everyone to be mafia, but who's going to take that seriously? C'mon... Goose- You're playing a lot like MVT's earlier games. This is a kind of style I've been noticing to be very, very similar to mafia posts. Pushing people around and trying to emotionally sway people... I'm keeping my eye on you for sure. MVT- I read into your posts the most in every game. Granted, there are about 10 times more posts from you than anyone else in the game, but the more you post, the more you're inclined to say the wrong thing if you're in the mafia. To me, so far so good. Howes- You're suspicious of me due to my lack of posting, and I wholeheartedly agree. I admitted to laying back and seeing what develops, and it's a strategy that never fails in these games. You can keep an eye on me; I encourage that when people lay low. Get people to talk. That's also a strategy that never fails... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Goose on 12/18/09 at 02:03:31 THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POST MADE THIS GAME TO THIS POINT SO READ IT EVERYONE. Eoj, you bring up a good point. I am pushy. This is true. Now, unlike MVT's past games, my pushiness is a good thing. Why? Because I am AMAZING AT THIS GAME. I don't even need to say it... just look at my resume of mafia games. I've always kicked ass whether it was for town or mafia. We all know the old adage "If you want something done right, do it yourself." I just get pissed easily when people think I'm mafia when I'm not (simply because I'm good at the game) and also when people think other townies are mafia. The game would be so much faster if everyone just listened to me. Now here is the even more important part. I am just a Kokiri kid, a TOWN Vanilla. How does this relate to the outcome of the game? More importantly, how can I prove this? a) It was extremely surprising to me that Cooper chose Kokiris to be the TOWN vanillas. I thought before the game that he would just pick random people from Kakariko Village or the Market so my first assumption would be that he was trying to throw off the mafia (which would cause them to claim they were townies by saying they were some Kakariko Village character.) b) If there are any town masons, they will know that I am not one of them, therefore I could not have learned the fact that the TOWN vanillas are Kokiris, from them. The only way I could have learned this is from Coopers message to me saying (in paraphrased words) "You are the Kokiri kid Mido, TOWN Vanilla." It is Day 1 after all. Not like I could have scanned Christophe yet to claim his role. Which leads me to... c) Ask Christophe and the other TOWN vanillas. Are they Kokiri? Yes they are. Why? Because all of us vanillas are (at least I assume so.) Furthermore, Christophe has only played Oracle of Seasons... IN WHICH THERE ARE NO KOKIRI. Does it not make sense that he was confused about his role????? There is simply no possible way I could correctly claim to be Kokiri unless I actually was Kokiri. Otherwise I would have falsely claimed to be "the girl who runs around trying to catch the chicken" from the Market. So there. I HAVE NO POWER. I am just a simple townie. It's just me vs. the world. Nobody listens to me. Nobody cares about me, and whatever. I figured I could say this so early already because HOPEFULLY the mafia will either scan me tonight and see who I am, OR they will just accept that I don't have a power role and am not a threat (which, to be honest mafia, I am not, since nobody listens to me anyways.) The evidence is there. I'm just a fucking vanilla town. It kinda sucks but at least it's my first game without being on the mafia or having a power role so I can just sort of chill back and go purely on lynching strategy (no wonder I was so pissed about no lynch option... that's the only way I can contribute to this game :-[) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by The Gaff on 12/18/09 at 02:03:37 Ok, didn't post on the first day because i was in training all day, then posted when i logged in the next day - someone else confirmed that. Then yesterday I was checking the forum till about 5pm UK time but no one has posted anything significant or worth writing about (I think there was about 4/5 posts MAX after mine - all waffly). I was hoping the US lot would come on earlier and talk but no one did. So i arrive back to work this morning and lo and behold theres about 4 pages of accusations at everyone and where's the gaff? I do post alot in mafia but at the same time if you look back i only really post when i'm more sure. People are upping their game, i'm less sure at the moment than I have been in past games. I still think Tim is looking sus so i'll leave my vote on him. It doesn't look like we'll get a majority vote this round so i want people to know my suspicions. Also Howes doesnt strike me as a "blue" person so his breakdown/quoting posts look sus to me. Not really enough to switch a vote though. Jamie seems to be avoiding the heat as does sean. Mafia brothers? hmm. Day 2 i'm gonna start calling people out as per my first post. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Timothy on 12/18/09 at 02:38:08 Looking suspicious how? ,,/,, Be back later all. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by The Gaff on 12/18/09 at 02:46:53 language pattern. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/18/09 at 04:38:56 0E3F36360E3B363F5A0 wrote:
Fuck you MVT. You dumb, how do you want I reply to your post when I'm at school and that I have lessons? I'm still at school atm but it's lunch time so we have a break and I can connect on the internet and post here... And, I saw Goose's post too, and I didn't suspect him at all, so I return your own question to you: Do you want to vote Dave Smith tonight? He is absolutely useless for this day... I'll keep my vote on him for day1 unless he replies something interesting. When does Day1 end? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/18/09 at 06:25:46 2C303735392B3F2069580 wrote:
What does the first (highlighted) line of this mean? I've never heard that expression before. Also, why not call people out today? There's still a little time left, and there's still the chance that mafia picks you off during the night. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by The Gaff on 12/18/09 at 06:51:14 i've explained why i'm not going to call people out now. And blue person, its to do with the personality styles you get colour coded, blue, yellow, red and green. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/18/09 at 07:07:36 Vote Counts Tim - (Kmacc), Sean, Tom Kmacc - (Tim) Dave Smith - Sportsguy, (MVT), (Cam), Flo Goose - (Howes), (Clay), MVT, Matt V Flo - (Cam), Christophe MVT - (Cam), (Cam), (Goose) Cam - (Goose), (Howes), Pistaker, (Matt V), Howes, Goose Sean - Tim, Clay Howes - (Cam), Brett, Cam Christophe - (Flo) Joe - (Matt V) Pistaker - (Cam) Brett - (Matt V) No Lynch - (Howes) Gaff - (Cam) Vote Totals Cam [3] Tim [2] Goose [2] Sean [2] Howes [2] Dave Smith [2] Flo [1] With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Day 1 ends in 3 hours, or when a player as reached 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 07:12:45 I'm like 75% sure Cam is town guys, so don't lynch him! Someone get in here and vote. :'( unvote Vote: Tim |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Dave Smith on 12/18/09 at 07:30:43 Sorry for not being around. Everytime I come to this site my virus software blocks a virus trying to get to my computer. I have been trying to figure out if it is the site or was on my computer. I think there is a virus on the MB for my computer is clean. Anyway, I can not figure out all the votes for me. I made a clear statement on my first post. that should say everything you need to know. I am town. Tyler started the vote against me. I am sure he saw my post and should have known what I was saying and he has not changed his vote. VOTE: Sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 07:34:40 Dave that's not going to solve anything. I think Cam will get lynched regardless of the tie, and I believe him to be town. I'd like you to vote for whoever seems most suspicious of the people with 2 votes, so if you vote for Tim, Goose, Sean, or Howes, I will do the same. Or I can choose first and you follow. I just need your help, since I truly believe Cam to be town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 07:36:50 Fuck, he signed off. Sean, get in here and fix this shit, we don't want Cam lynched, if you ArRE town that is. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/18/09 at 07:50:56 I just wanted to speak up and say that I'm here and reading everything but the accusations have become a bit overwhelming and its tricky because there really is no firm ground to stand upon as anyone can come from any angle. I assume it gets easier to figure things out once somebody dies. I'm considering a no vote for the day, but at the same time Goose makes a good point that no vote or no lynch gives town a disadvantage so my vote still stands the same. With only a few hours left to decide I can only assume it will pick up a bit in here and someone will reveal too much. I'll be sitting near the computer up until the end of the day so I hope to catch something =P -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 07:55:23 I doubt many people will be on at this time of day Clay. We need to take action, you and I can decide who goes right now basically. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/18/09 at 07:56:12 1021322F382534292E25400 wrote:
I knew exactly what you meant on your first post, but everyone is going to claim they are town no matter what. So why should i believe you maybe because your Dave "the legend" Smith. That is a good reason, but good enough not to vote for you? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:03:04 Ffs, I'm gonna assume you're all mafia if we lynch Cam. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/18/09 at 08:07:48 Like I said, Tim is the way to go. He's not contributing at all except to badmouth me. However, my one track mind could be getting in the way. The way I see it now; at least one of the long arse posters: Goose and Howes is Mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:08:36 Yeah I know. I had to abandon our push for Goose, because nobody will go for it, for today anyways. We need a new target, that other people will also go for. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/18/09 at 08:09:24 So Cams the new Town Hero? What makes you so sure boys. And if you are sure, you must have a good feeling who mafia is? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:09:52 Wait, Sean, if MVT and I vote Tim, will you take the blame if he is town? I'm still so indecisive atm. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/18/09 at 08:11:25 Quote:
Well I cannot revoke a vote for Cam as I havent voted for him, and I have a vote for someone who has 2 already. Do you feel like Zootman is innocent? Also, how in the world can I know whether you're mafia or not and vice-versa? Really all we have to go on is what people have said and trying to read into what they may be feeling or their motivations. I feel I am failing at this because I'm taking too much of a logical approach in a game that doesnt seem to have any. I'll be willing to side with you if you can convince me somehow that you're not Mafia where I can believe it. I cant really think of a way that's believable but maybe I'm just too much of a skeptic. It just seems to me once somebody is gone that one can hunt for motive, but for now its just a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Either that or there is something I'm missing. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:14:55 Everyone who has done any analysis has agreed that I'm town, that speaks for itself right there. I'm not sure myself who is mafia, but I get a strong gut feelnig Cam is town. I'm not sure who should replace him on the chopping lobck yet though. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/18/09 at 08:23:16 unvote cam |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:23:35 But nobody else will vote for him. :'( |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/18/09 at 08:24:03 I'd happily take the blame for it Matt, but I'd rather take the glory of killing a mafia gumbo. ;) Right, PLAN C: Look at the inactive players; at least if we kill a townie they wouldn't have contributed much anyway. In my eyes we have 3 options: 1. Lynch Tim. 2. Lynch Goose or Howes. 3. Lynch an inactive/quiet player. Everyone post they're choice now: 1,2 or 3. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:24:19 Jamie!! This is a good surprise. Who do you think is most suspicious atm? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:25:03 1 or 2, definately. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/18/09 at 08:26:33 2 vote goose for claiming himself as the best player. What a cocky cunt. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:28:16 unvote Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:30:46 I'm gonna listen to the troll. :D |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:34:18 The day is done in under two hours, so I doubt we'll get many more voters. :/ |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/18/09 at 08:36:28 So number 2 it is? Lets kill this fuck! unvote Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 08:40:10 I'm suddenly very suspicious of Clay... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/18/09 at 08:49:12 Vote Counts Tim - (Kmacc), (Sean), Tom, (Matt V) Kmacc - (Tim) Dave Smith - Sportsguy, (MVT), (Cam), Flo Goose - (Howes), (Clay), MVT, (Matt V), Pistaker, Matt V, Sean Flo - (Cam), Christophe MVT - (Cam), (Cam), (Goose) Cam - (Goose), (Howes), (Pistaker), (Matt V), Howes, Goose Sean - Tim, Clay Howes - (Cam), Brett, Cam Christophe - (Flo) Joe - (Matt V) Pistaker - (Cam) Brett - (Matt V) No Lynch - (Howes) Gaff - (Cam) Sportsguy - Dave Smith Vote Totals Goose [4] Cam [2] Sean [2] Howes [2] Dave Smith [2] Flo [1] Tim [1] Sportsguy [1] With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Day 1 ends in 1 hour 10 minutes, or when a player has reached 9 votes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/18/09 at 08:57:09 Joe: Nice post. Risky plan, advocating consciously not saying much in the beginning, letting things unfold and using that to your advantage. I feel a strong town vibe from that. Gaff: Glad to see you're finally around. The heat is unavoidably elsewhere, so I'm hoping you'll have a lot more to say on day 2. Same goes to... Dave: I don't understand how you can think your first and only post is a clear statement you are town. Town should be actively helping. You've been absent, understandably as you claim. But the votes on you should be just as understandable, so I don't see how you can defend yourself that way. I want to see more from you on day 2. Zoot and Jamie: Your sudden involvement is interesting. Town seeing Goose as mafia? Mafia avoiding the heat on me when others are starting to feel I'm town? This won't go unnoticed, so I hope day 2 brings more from you both! 250D0D110750620 wrote:
Goose, I'm glad you are thinking I'm town, but an implied ultimatum asking me to vote for MVT otherwise your vote on me remains isn't very townish to me. Yes, I voted for MVT, but in my larger post I advocated why I now think he's more townish. I can't just put a vote on him to save myself unless you can give me a real reason. Why do you think he's mafia? 133B3B273166540 wrote:
When I first read your post, I thought definitely town. Now I'm thinking, is this a ploy to get the town vanillas to reveal themselves? I don't know, I can totally see you being absolutely honest about it, or completely mafia. But it seems like you're really trying very hard to defend yourself, when at that point you only had like 2 people voting for you with the heat on me. These combined facts lead me to believe you are mafia Vote: Goose MVT, you're the instigator in this Goose lynch. GOOSE BETTER BE MAFIA! [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 09:03:38 You didn't even have to vote, because he's getting lynched anyways. But you voted anyways, which further pushes me towards my opinion you are town Cam. You're good in my books atm. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/18/09 at 09:14:07 Most of your reactions look really suspect MVT. Btw, I think I can trust Matt V because he trusted me last game, so I'll follow him. :) Unvote Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 09:17:11 MVT was the first one to jump on Goose, so if Goose is mafia, then it's a pretty safe bet MVT is town Flo. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/18/09 at 09:18:07 We'll see this when his role will be revealed. :( |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/18/09 at 09:39:59 For the record, I was forced to go out shopping with my parents, so I've been gone since my last post. I'll try and digest what's gone on so far. I don't think Goose is the right lynch. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/18/09 at 09:46:05 We can't all modify our votes with 20 mins left Howes... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/18/09 at 09:49:04 I didn't think we could change votes, I'm just voicing my concern that I don't think Goose is the right lynch. We are lynching someone with a credible claim instead of someone who had not claimed at all, which doesn't make sense to me. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by El Niño on 12/18/09 at 09:51:48 Just want to get my vote in before time's up, will explain my decision later: unvote vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by DarkMeta on 12/18/09 at 09:53:08 you wanted to follow my decision Christophe, confess it. :P |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/18/09 at 09:56:15 I concur with Howes but only because his defense is so transparent if he is mafia. I guess I give him more credit in the simple fact that he's played more of these games despite all of the emotion and all. At the same time he hasnt really helped in uncovering any real truths that I can see except stating the statistical advantages of not doing a no lynch which adds up. As for who is mafia I continue to go with my original instinct as its the only real gut feeling I have amongst the clever bickering back and forth. Since I havent had much to say, I dont see many people bandwagoning with me on that as to a degree it seems like the most vocal people draw the most attention to their ideas. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Matt V on 12/18/09 at 10:00:17 If Goose is mafia then you and Howes will both be under tremendous suspicion, I hope you guys realize that... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/18/09 at 10:20:49 As the end of the day was getting near, amongst the most vocal of the travelers was Goose, and he was trying his best to be diplomatic when it came to reaching a decision about what to do. "YOU STUPID IDIOTS ITS SO OBVIOUS THAT WE HAVE TO LYNCH SOMEONE TODAY YOU RETARDED IMBECILIC MORONS DONT YOU KNOW ANYTHING?!?!?! JUST LISTEN TO ME!!!!" The rest of the travelers were definitely paying attention to him, and they had their Fairy Slingshots and Magic Beans ready. They came down upon Goose as a violent mob, pelting him with seeds like there was no tomorrow. "NOOOOO!!!! And I was only 380 years old!" Goose has been lynched. He was Koume, MAFIA Silencer. Day 1 has ended, and Night 1 begins now. You have 24 hours to send me your night actions via PM. Vote Counts Tim - (Kmacc), (Sean), Tom, (Matt V) Kmacc - (Tim) Dave Smith - Sportsguy, (MVT), (Cam), (Flo) Goose - (Howes), (Clay), MVT, (Matt V), Pistaker, Matt V, Sean, Cam, Flo, Christophe Flo - (Cam), (Christophe) MVT - (Cam), (Cam), (Goose) Cam - (Goose), (Howes), (Pistaker), (Matt V), Howes, Goose Sean - Tim, Clay Howes - (Cam), Brett, (Cam) Christophe - (Flo) Joe - (Matt V) Pistaker - (Cam) Brett - (Matt V) No Lynch - (Howes) Gaff - (Cam) Sportsguy - Dave Smith Vote Totals Goose [7] Cam [2] Sean [2] Howes [1] Tim [1] Sportsguy [1] Dave Smith [1] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by KoopZ on 12/19/09 at 10:04:07 Exuberant that they caught a member of the mafia, the members of the troupe slept soundly. However, they were not prepared for the bloody mess which confronted them the next morning... MVT has been killed. He was Ruto, TOWN Mason. Flo has been killed. He was a Zora, TOWN Vanilla. Shaken by this sudden loss of two of their own, they gather their belongings and continue on their way. With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day 2 will end in 48 hours, or when a player reaches 8 votes. Remaining Players 1. Brett 2. Cam 3. Christophe (El Nino) 4. Clay (Magikoopa) 5. Dave Smith 7. Gaff 9. Howes 10. Jamie (Pistaker) 11. Joe (Eoj) 12. Kmacc 13. Matt V 15. Sean (Zootmanx) 16. Tim 17. Tyler (Sportsguy) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 10:08:00 JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET OUT! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 10:13:58 So, which mafia is next to go? At least they've exhausted at least one of their guaranteed claims. Vote: Tom (the Gaff) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/19/09 at 10:14:08 Flo wasn't much of a loss (vanilla), but MVT loss is huge. MVT played the mason role very well in the pokemon game and was huge factor for the town winning that game. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 10:15:56 Ceiling Cat is watching you masturbate! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 10:17:13 Am I the only one confused as to why Cam is posting lolcats in text form? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 10:17:42 We can't stop here! This is BAT COUNTRY! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/19/09 at 10:19:20 What is this gibberish? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 10:20:33 JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET OUT! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 10:23:13 Nevermind. Considering Goose was a silencer, and KoopZ said to check your PMs, I'd say Cam has been magicked in some way :'(. Great. Just great. Also, the topic name should probably be changed. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/19/09 at 10:30:08 7651495B4D3E0 wrote:
The last line only makes Howes look that much worse. It leaves only two conclusions, which is either Howes is mafia, or he was just completely off. MVT always plays a similar style, it's true. But in past games where MVT was mafia, he was still more emotional when trying to make a point, much like goose was in this game. MVT still showed emotion here, but he was being more analytical and trying to get more out of people. I thought it was pretty obvious that MVT was town. 13342C3E285B0 wrote:
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Here, he's basically trying to save Goose without fully advocating into it. He could have thrown in the "I didn't think we could change votes" part to make it seem as if he isn't trying to save him per se, but maybe get into the minds of people to make a last second switch. Howes' suspicions of Cam also seem ridiculous at this point, as Cam (along with MVT) were the two who contributed the best on the first day imo. Cam has successfully gotten many people to talk and voice out their opinions when they would have been otherwise quiet. Goose also wanted to lynch Cam badly, so it seems pretty obvious to me that Cam is town. This all being said, Howes is for sure the most suspicious in my book. vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 10:34:20 Ceiling Cat is watching you masturbate! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 10:39:58 Kmacc couldn't have said it better. I had strong suspicions of Howes yesterday and those suspicions are now stronger because he tried to get us not to vote Goose because he was town and said that MVT was mafia, neither of these were true, so he must be mafia. I am much too lazy to repeat everything that I said on day 1, but the fact that Goose was mafia and MVT was town just sealed the deal for me. Howes must me mafia, nothing he can say at this point can convince me otherwise. Vote: AHowes |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/19/09 at 10:42:01 I wonder if MVT was killed trying to recruit a mafia member for the masons or if a mafia assassin killed him. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/19/09 at 10:51:08 @Tyler: You actually bring up a very good point there. If MVT was killed because he recruited a mafia member, then there is someone blending in very well with the town, and MVT had to trust that person a lot in order to take the chance in recruiting them. That would mean that anyone MVT strongly considered town could be mafia, so we have to keep a close watch on that. MVT was obviously a big threat to the mafia though, so it would be completely understandable to see them take him out. Flo dying would probably be a mason kill, which I can see happening. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 11:14:29 We can't stop here! This is BAT COUNTRY! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by El Niño on 12/19/09 at 11:17:23 Here are my explanations as prepared on day 1 having read up to my last post (#217): Quote:
I suspect Howes more than ever because of him going after Cam and the No lynch idea. So vote: AHowes In my eyes, Cam is either a magicked (if that's possible) TOWN or a faking Mafia. More likely a TOWN because of MVT's support, but reasoning could go the other way too because of MVT's death. All in all, he's a TOWN to look out for, in my opinion. -Christophe. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 11:21:06 @Tyler- My instinct would be that MVT couldn't recruit, and that mafia took him out because he was a threat. Usually, the mason role that recruits is implicitly called the "recruiting mason." @Kmacc- I may be bad at mafia sometimes, but I'm not stupid. Why would any mafia member advocate a change in vote when compared to the next worst person, they are at a 7-2 disadvantage, with 20 minutes left in the day? That would be the worst possible giveaway that they could do. I don't think that there were even 5 people that could have switched their votes that were online. My analysis was just what I stated. It was My analysis. I used Goose as a reference point because I thought that his thinking most closely lined up with what I was thinking. However, since Goose was mafia, I think that I now have some understanding of his thought process. Clarification: I would not say that I am a good mafia player. Looking back, that should have tipped me off that Goose was mafia from the start. I am one of the more experienced on this board with respect to games played on this board, but I am by no means good. @Brett- Being lazy is no excuse for not looking for evidence. This is played on a forum, and there isn't a short term time limit to this. It's fine if you take 10 or even 20 minutes to type up a post, looking for evidence as you go. To have nothing that will change your mind shows that your mind is made up already, meaning you think you have enough information to prove a point. The only people that I think would have this information at this point are the masons and the mafia (since they know the identities of players outside their groups), and I'm pretty sure you aren't a mason. I also have a theory about Flo's death. MVT's character was Ruto, who in the Zelda games was Zora royalty. What if Flo's death was connected to MVT's death in some way, since Flo was a Zora? Kmacc strikes me as most suspicious right now, but Brett is close behind. Being new is no excuse for being closed-minded. unvote Vote: Kmacc |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/19/09 at 11:50:04 Howes, why do I strike you as the most suspicious? Is it because I'm against you, when there is clear evidence pointing towards you being a strong possibility as a mafia member? You're not even basing your vote on anything other than that. It's a weak defense mechanism to just vote back at a person who has voted for you just because they did vote for you. You've only said one thing about me so far (the mafia/dead weight quote). I'm curious to know what else you find suspicious of me. Oh, by the way: 55726A786E1D0 wrote:
This was on the first page, it was Howes' first post. Coincidence? You've tried to confuse people already, change people's minds, and so forth. If you truly are town, you really aren't helping. As it stands, my vote is staying on Howes unless something drastic happens to change my mind. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 11:52:59 Ok, well I am not sure how to quote multiple posts in the same message, but I'll just do it this way, it gets the information across regardless. Reply 95: A long ass post trying to put down evidence that everyone is mafia, which obviously would be impossible. You were grasping at straws to try to direct any attention away from you being a mafia. I wasn't really suspicious of you up until this point. You also said that my two posts didn't help the town, but they didn't help the mafia either. Reply 98: You voted for a no lynch, which unless you were mafia, would be absolutely stupid. This wouldn't help the town at all, in fact, it would put us at a disadvantage. Reply 138: You voted for Cam. Earlier in the game Goose placed his vote on Cam, and since Goose turned out to be mafia, Cam has to be town, I am about 80% sure. Then again it could have been a bluff on Goose's part, but I don't think it was. Cam's behavior seems to be town for me anyway. Your vote against him was (at the time) the third vote on him. Bandwagon? Then you had to tell us we were grasping at straws, but as I stated earlier, you did the same thing in reply 95 to try to direct any attention (you really didn't have that much) away from you. Reply 149: Same as above, sort of. You told Goose to place his vote back on Cam, so you two must be mafia, you worked together too much on day 1. You also told him you could worry about taking MVT out later, and he ended up being town. You (or another mafia member that wasn't very suspicious at the time), probably killed MVT at night because on reply 12, MVT admitted to having a big role in the game, which would make him a prime target for mafia to take out ASAP. Replies 154-155: Claimed MVT was mafia, and Goose was town, neither one was the case. Replies 214 and 216: Again, stating that Goose wasn't the right lynch, at this point, whatever side Goose was on, you had to be. You defended him too much now. Goose's MAFIA role confirmed the little doubt about you being mafia that I still had. As I stated earlier, nothing you can say to me can change my opinion about you at this point. Unless someone basically goes out and says they are mafia, you will always be my prime suspect. I'll admit, Kmacc played well in the LOST mafia (I read the topic), and it is difficult to get a good read on him, but I honestly think he is about 90% town. EDIT to add this in: If you truly are town then you have played terribly so far in this game and have not helped us at all. If anything you tried to hurt us by trying to get a last minute vote change from Goose because you knew he was mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by The Gaff on 12/19/09 at 12:26:53 vote howesim using my phone and the bold feature wont work but i want to vote for Howes. Ive changed my mind about Tim. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/19/09 at 12:46:36 Howes, you have anything else to say? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 13:00:23 Well, I'm screwed. I'm a Hylian, TOWN Vanilla. Not much I can do now, is there? I'd like to see Matt V say something, along with some of the others who haven't said anything today. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/19/09 at 13:20:12 If you were town, why say your role, now mafia will just fuck you up, well they wont because you are mafia. Tom, i dont know hasnt posted much, has only defended himself when fags cam along and voted for him, i havnt checked, much posted tl;dr. i dont have suspisions about cam. even though hes acting like a clown for some fucking reason. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/19/09 at 13:32:00 Howes son you're fucked. Option 2 complete. [smiley=evil.gif] Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 13:39:58 JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET OUT! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/19/09 at 13:40:18 If i vote for ahowes, am i bandwagoning. For me its too early to vote, as isnt it day 2 now? like hasnt it been day 2 for like 3 hours and howes has got a lot of votes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 13:45:05 Howes only has a lot of votes because a lot of people were suspicious of him yesterday, and also because he defended Goose (who turned out to be mafia), and wanted to initially get rid of Cam or MVT (the latter of which we now know 100% is town). I just counted, Howes already has 5 votes. Besides, if you were going to be called bandwagoning for voting Howes, then a lot of other people would be bandwagoning as well. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by ZootManX on 12/19/09 at 13:45:55 37313D3F3F5C0 wrote:
The last line only makes Howes look that much worse. It leaves only two conclusions, which is either Howes is mafia, or he was just completely off. MVT always plays a similar style, it's true. But in past games where MVT was mafia, he was still more emotional when trying to make a point, much like goose was in this game. MVT still showed emotion here, but he was being more analytical and trying to get more out of people. I thought it was pretty obvious that MVT was town. 13342C3E285B0 wrote:
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Here, he's basically trying to save Goose without fully advocating into it. He could have thrown in the "I didn't think we could change votes" part to make it seem as if he isn't trying to save him per se, but maybe get into the minds of people to make a last second switch. Howes' suspicions of Cam also seem ridiculous at this point, as Cam (along with MVT) were the two who contributed the best on the first day imo. Cam has successfully gotten many people to talk and voice out their opinions when they would have been otherwise quiet. Goose also wanted to lynch Cam badly, so it seems pretty obvious to me that Cam is town. This all being said, Howes is for sure the most suspicious in my book. vote: Howes[/quote] This is my reason if I needed to make it more obvious. Later Howes you mafia fuck. ;D |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Pistaker on 12/19/09 at 13:46:25 VOTE: HOWES for being mafia proof - On many occasions he has suggested to the idea not to vote for goose, as he indirectly said he was not mafia, goose was mafia, howes was trying to stop people voting for him. Even said he didnt know he could change votes. HOWES - Six votes |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 14:27:24 7F4F5849493D0 wrote:
My thoughts are in bold. Based on my previous games, mafia only gets a few guaranteed claims, of which one can usually be claimed safely as vanilla, and the other one/two are named characters, where the mafia members must create a believable role on the fly. Christophe, is your role's name a Goron, by any chance, since you claimed vanilla?\ Expect a re-analysis from me before I die (or in the next 20 minutes, whichever comes last). One more thing. Please don't lynch me before everyone has a say. People who have yet to post today are: Tim, Matt V, Dave Smith, and Eoj. There is no way in hell that mafia has enough roles to silence all of them, especially since it's fairly obvious that they used one on Cam (to their disadvantage, I may add, since he would be another vote pushing me to be killed more quickly). Quick edit: Clay (Magikoopoa) hasn't posted either. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 14:44:43 1. Brett Brett has gone after me all game, for no apparent reason other than I suspected him due to weak posts. He has skewed information several times to attempt to get me lynched. Not trustworthy, but hasn't given enough proof that he's mafia. On my suspect list. 2. Cam Town. I messed up big time yesterday. 3. Christophe (El Nino) Claimed vanilla. Could go either way, since he has a tendency to bandwagon. I would like some analysis from you, if possible. 4. Clay (Magikoopa) Followed me, which is usually a bad sign. Hasn't shown any signs of mafia other than that. Decide at your own peril. On my suspect list. 5. Dave Smith Still has only posted twice, and hasn't posted today. Claimed town. 7. Gaff Hasn't given crap for reasoning. Tried to use personality tendencies to discount my analysis. Can't be trusted. On my suspect list. 9. Howes TOWN Hylian. Not the role that saves my ass, but that's my loss. 10. Jamie (Pistaker) Probably tag-teaming with his brother somehow. Suspect list. 11. Joe (Eoj) Joe is still following his style of posting. Most likely Town. Posts today are needed though. 12. Kmacc Has had it in for me all game. On my suspect list. 13. Matt V Town. Obvious really. 15. Sean (Zootmanx) Suspect list. Curious post about no-lynching yesterday. 16. Tim Most likely town. 17. Tyler (Sportsguy) Town. He at least has the presence of mind to give me a chance, which is more than most other people can say. Remember this post when I'm dead and revealed as town. My thoughts on what has happened in the last 12 hours of Day 1, along with today: Goose realized that he was going to die, and that I was irrevocably linked with him. He tells his mafia buddies to bandwagon with the masons to kill him off, and then to start the bandwagon to kill me today. Therefore, mafia blends in with town better, and after my death, town has problems looking at vote patterns. Remaining mafia in my best guess would come from: Tom, Brett, Kmacc, Sean, Jamie, Clay. There are at most 4 of them, at least 3 based on previous games. Whoever is a protector should protect the most active posters for town. Mafia will most likely attempt to kill them off, leaving a stagnant environment where not much is said, and they have an easy time picking off people to kill. Roleblock one of those on my suspect list if you think there is a good chance that they are mafia. I hope I'm not a miller... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 15:12:17 Where and how did I skew any information about you? I told you where you made your posts and why the posts were weak and hinted at the fact you were mafia. Anyway, let me respond to your first post. Reply 95: Why would you humor at that fact? In this game you don't want to be the one that makes the long ass post like that because of the attention factor. You pointed out everyone else being mafia which obviously can't be the case, like I stated before. Reply 98: There is no way in hell that a no lynch would help town. Lynches are the only realistic chance of killing off the mafia unless someone from the town has a night kill, which wouldn't really surprise me. The mafia isn't dumb enough to kill themselves at night, so a no lynch couldn't possibly benefit town. You voted it to bring up discussion? Well that was a big mistake by you then and it further put you on my suspect list. Goose only attacked you on the no lynch to blend in better with the town. He had to have known he was mafia, I mean, seriously. Reply 138: My point still stands, you made a big mistake with post 95 and called myself and Cam out, and now in your most recent post you are claiming Cam is town. That I agree with, he has to be town. Replies 154-155: Nothing I can really say about that, but you were pretty adamant about both of them in your post, and both of them were wrong, so suspicions raise even higher. Replies 214 and 216: Then you must have been brain dead. I didn't change my vote to Goose last minute because I was at school when the day ended, and the whole Goose bandwagon either started while I was sleeping, or when I was at school, because I checked the messages before I went to bed, and Goose didn't have a considerable amount of votes on him at the time. You also stated that you wouldn't support someone unless you were positive that they were town then. But you were obviously wrong about this too, because you supported him on his way out. Therefore, you must have been convinced he was town, which he wasn't. Kmacc DID know he was mafia last game. At the start of the game, he didn't know who else was mafia and the mafia knew that Kmacc's role existed in the game, but they didn't know until night 2 that Kmacc had that specific role. You should know this, you were mafia that game. You played poorly this game. I'm not attacking you for no reason, but you called me out on the weak posts and in reply 95 with that list against everyone (including myself), so I was forced to get up and defend myself against you. I'm not just going to let you say stuff about me without a defense from me. Also you claim that you didn't vote for him due to the bandwagon issue, look what happened. Nobody else is being accused of bandwagoning for the most part against him. And those are my reasons again. If you truly are town then I am sorry but your posts didn't benefit us in the slightest. If it turns out you are town then I will probably be on everyone's suspect list tomorrow, but then again most people agree with me on the issue. Your posts benefited the mafia more, so that's why I think you are mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by KoopZ on 12/19/09 at 15:16:41 Vote Totals Howes [6] Kmacc [1] sorry for no voting patterns, i'm running on a very tight time schedule right now. i may not be back online again til tomorrow morning (CST time). With 14 players remaining, it takes 8 votes to lynch. Day 2 ends in 42 hours 45 minutes or when a player reaches 8 votes. Will a mod please lock this if someone gets lynched while i'm away? it would be much appreciated. NOTICE: if someone does get lynched while i am away, Night 2 will officially start when i make the end day post. DO NOT SEND ME ANY NIGHT ACTIONS UNTIL YOU SEE THE END DAY POST. thank you. :) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/19/09 at 15:21:33 Personally i think Howes is town. There is always a town player early in each game that makes a big mistake and can't recover and is lynched. I think that is the case here. Howes is going to be lynched unless the mayor saves him. I think the mayor if there is one should definitely consider saving him. One last thing, DISREGARD EVERYTHING I HAVE SAID IF HOWES TURNS OUT TO BE MAFIA. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 15:22:12 Ceiling Cat is watching you masturbate! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 15:34:22 5565726363170 wrote:
I realized I'm forgetting Kmacc's "proof" post, so I'll address that shortly. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Pistaker on 12/19/09 at 15:41:28 i dont need to reclaim my points, you claim someone was town, they turned put to be mafia, you claim mvt and some other guy were mafia and should be lynched, they get killed at night and are town. You are either mafia or someone who has fucked up right at the beginning. Why would i be working with my brother? Its either we let this mistake go by and the killing keep coming or the killings half, or we kill him and the killings keep happening or half the killings stop. If i agree to help lynch, it will appear that i would be mafia, but if i agree to a mistake, more people will be murdered. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Kmacc on 12/19/09 at 15:42:47 Brett is right, I did know I was mafia last game. I just didn't know who the other mafia members were. And you guys all didn't read me well from what I saw, because Koopz was the only one that suggested it was me. Howes, you keep saying I'm suspicious, yet you avoid saying why. All you do is say that you're suspicious of me because I'm suspicious of you. That's a terrible argument. If you're truly town, you'll actually come up with coherent arguments and try to lay some facts out instead of being so vague about what you say. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 15:43:30 787E727070130 wrote:
This was on the first page, it was Howes' first post. Coincidence? Yes, indeed coincidence. You've tried to confuse people already, change people's minds, and so forth. If you truly are town, you really aren't helping. As it stands, my vote is staying on Howes unless something drastic happens to change my mind.[/quote] Heck, I'm trying to change people's minds because I'm innocent. If you were innocent at this point, would you try your hardest to prove it? In previous games, when I'm mafia and under overwhelming suspicion, I had completely clammed up, including at several times not defending myself. However, in one game when I was town, and forced to defend myself against an attack (by a mafia MVT, no less), I got so worked up about it I posted my role PM, and deleted my forum account. Luckily, my mind isn't as clouded by stress now as it was then, so I won't be repeating that feat. I do intend to post as much as I can to defend myself against every attack, and to show as much of my viewpoint as I can to prove to town that I am innocent, and, in the case that I am unsuccessful in this, to show the town who must be in the mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 15:48:35 6D544E495C56584F3D0 wrote:
Jamie, I said that you might be working with your brother because your posts tend to follow the same pattern, and you have mainly voted for the same people (with the exception of the first person that you voted for). Tom is also following the same patterns as Sean. @highlight- see Tyler's post. He nailed it. @bold- You do realize that mafia can only kill one townie per night? The other kill was either a special mafia power (probably limited), or a vigilante kill. I also can't understand what you mean in this sentence. It seems like it is the same result either way. I got double ninja'd in my post before this. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by ZootManX on 12/19/09 at 15:51:20 Luckily, my mind isn't as clouded by stress now as it was then because you're mafia this time, stop begging it son |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 15:53:19 No, because the last time, I had a massive project due for one of my classes that I hadn't started on due to procrastination. This time, I'm done with school for 3 weeks, and I have nothing to worry about besides this game. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by ZootManX on 12/19/09 at 15:53:27 Slightly unrelated point: Its either we let this mistake go by and the killing keep coming or the killings half, or we kill him and the killings keep happening or half the killings stop Do you even go to fucking school? wtf is that shit, sort it out. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Pistaker on 12/19/09 at 15:54:40 look im voting for you because you have more evidence that suggests you are mafia, but that doesnt mean you are . In my game when tom was mafia, he and andrew and some other mafia had a tactic of not posting to lower awareness. Tom doesnt post much but he always has a legit excuse, not hes in france apperently, but does not remove the fact he is not mafia, UNVOTE im gonna wait actually, not even past 10 hours so im gonna see everyone else say. As its only been between me you, brett, sean, kmacc, and some others. Some other people who are not active like tom havnt posted much so its not fair to vote you, even if you are mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 16:02:00 Drawing attention to myself is bad if I'm mafia. If I'm town, it does nothing. It makes me more highly scrutinized, but that shouldn't have been a problem since I'm town. Response: Yeah, it is bad if you are mafia, and it makes you more highly scrutinized if you are town, and if you were town, the post would make sense. The only problem is that you played a terrible game, and most of us besides Sportsguy (including myself), still believe you are mafia. If you played the rest of the game better, then there would be less evidence that you would be mafia, and your post would essentially be meaningless. Why would you really want to be scrutinized, even if you are town? Again, the point of the no lynch vote was to bring up discussion about it. Mafia tends to be the first to shoot it down to prove that they are "town". No lynch has the chance to help town for endgame since it slows the game down, doesn't have the chance to kill townies, and gives the town one more guaranteed member later in the game (assuming vigilante action is constant). The people against no lynch bring up the primary arguement of it can't kill mafia. Besides that, it allows for more vote patterns, gives analysis on those posting during the day, and gives a night cycle to show what mafia does in the circumstances. Naysayers are those who consider a day wasted if they don't kill someone. A lack of a no lynch helps mafia more in many cases than the actual no lynch would. This is being blown out of proportion, so this is (hopefully) the last time I'll discuss it. Response: This isn't the endgame anyway, this was day 1 at the time. No lynch would only be good if we would have otherwise lynched a townie. The flaw in your post is that townies can't be killed except for night time unless a lynch kills them. Mafia usually don't die at night, so advocating to get rid of one of our lynches gives us one less chance to get rid of a mafia. Note the word chance in the previous sentence. If there is a no lynch, automatic advantage for mafia. If there is a lynch and a townie dies, bigger advantage for mafia. If a mafia dies by lynching on day 1, advantage for town. First day votes are first day votes. They are those where you know the least, and where there usually isn't a point in changing votes. I didn't change votes on Cam because I thought he was mafia. I was proved wrong. When I'm mafia, I tend to be wishy-washy, and not vote very often unless there is an obvious candidate or a bandwagon. Response: You voted very often in this game, changed your votes several times because you were unsure of who to get rid of. Cam is town, we both agree on this. Granted there isn't a 100% chance of this but I am about 80 - 85% sure. The first day vote is very important to get rid of a mafia and give us an advantage going deeper into the game. Voting for someone who is most likely a townie due to his behavior is stupid. If anything, you shouldn't have said a word when Goose was going. As if you voted for him, you would be labeled as a bandwagoner, and what you posted kinda hurt your chances now on day 2. I was adamant with the information I thought I had then. I was wrong, which shows how my suspicion was cast assuming Goose was Town. If you extrapolate my reasoning assuming Goose was mafia, you come up with a state that is similar to what we have now. Response: Bottom line is you were adamant about Goose being town on day 1, which you even said is the day you know the least. Highlighted part is important. You are portraying my words in a different light again. When I stated that highlighted part, I was in the hypothetical situation that I was mafia. I am not mafia, so that should stay hypothetical. It is not the reason for my actions. I think those posts show my viewpoint at the time (assuming that Goose was town) very clearly. Response: I am not portraying your words in a different light "again". I am stating what you said in your post. If you were town, at that point you should have just kept your mouth shut against the Goose situation. That was another mistake you made on day 1. I explained my reasoning for this a few paragraphs above. Also, name another so called instance when I twisted your words completely, as you used the word "again" in your post to me. So you admit Kmacc played a good mafia game for at least the first 2 days then? Because if you don't admit this, then you are contradicting yourself yet again. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 16:23:38 1626312020540 wrote:
Other than that, I think the main way you twist my words is that you constantly assume that I'm mafia. I think I also thought you made more posts than you did, for which I apologize. On the other hand, you have even stated at several points that if I wasn't mafia, things would make sense. Occam's razor: The simplest explanation tends to be the best one. @Kmacc in last game: For the last game, Kmacc knew that he was undercover mafia, but didn't know his teammates. If he hadn't been recruited and town killed the original mafia, he would have won with the town. On scans, he showed up town for the first two games, which played a large role in the endgame. I had agreed with Koopz's assessment that Kmacc was the undercover cop, but either didn't post, or posted it within context. 484241425C423B0 wrote:
Final point: The internet conveys words, not intent. Sarcasm is often lost on people for this reason, and I think I tend to put a lot of intent in my posts that is often overlooked. This is what's killing me. on an unrelated note, I really wish this forum had a facepalm emote. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Timothy on 12/19/09 at 16:43:16 *Been out* Glad to hear it Tom, but I'm not ruling you out as a potential mafia scumbag. As for you Howes, I don't like the whole list system. We know you played horribly last game (as mafia), but I can't tell whether a) you're making a massive effort this time with a different style because you are town or b) given that you were mafia last game the change in game style will make you seem innocent. Not voting yet, don't want the day to be over too soon. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by The Gaff on 12/19/09 at 17:04:45 timothy, you should.. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Kmacc on 12/19/09 at 17:25:44 5B7C647660130 wrote:
This was on the first page, it was Howes' first post. Coincidence? Yes, indeed coincidence. You've tried to confuse people already, change people's minds, and so forth. If you truly are town, you really aren't helping. As it stands, my vote is staying on Howes unless something drastic happens to change my mind.[/quote] Heck, I'm trying to change people's minds because I'm innocent. If you were innocent at this point, would you try your hardest to prove it? In previous games, when I'm mafia and under overwhelming suspicion, I had completely clammed up, including at several times not defending myself. However, in one game when I was town, and forced to defend myself against an attack (by a mafia MVT, no less), I got so worked up about it I posted my role PM, and deleted my forum account. Luckily, my mind isn't as clouded by stress now as it was then, so I won't be repeating that feat. I do intend to post as much as I can to defend myself against every attack, and to show as much of my viewpoint as I can to prove to town that I am innocent, and, in the case that I am unsuccessful in this, to show the town who must be in the mafia. [/quote] I'm not saying it as if I'm not sure, because nobody can ever be sure of who is mafia. I'm not going to straight out say you're mafia since there isn't 100% proof, but I'm trying to say I strongly feel that you're mafia. That should have been pretty obvious... And you can't say I'm suspicious for starting a bandwagon against you, because I didn't even do that. I didn't go around persuading everyone to lynch. I simply stated what I thought, and voted based on that, because I feel my argument was valid enough to do so. If you were going to blame anyone about bandwagoning, you'd blame the others who voted later on. I'm pretty sure they have good reasons to vote for you too though. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 17:48:35 Vote: Howes First he posts saying he wants to hear more from me, then goes on to say I'm obviously town. I am town, but he obviously tried to throw my ass under the microscope. I've been working all day, and I work all day tomorrow, so I won't be posting much this day. My vote, will not be swayed regardless of what anyone says. But if Howes is town, none of you can point blame at me, because we all think he is mafia. XD |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 17:50:46 I said I wanted to hear from you, as you hadn't posted yet today, and I would prefer that everyone have a say in the voting if I am to die. I wouldn't want anyone's viewpoint excluded. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 17:51:58 Well, don't hold a personal vendetta against me, but you must admit your actions are suspicious. You defended a mafia and attacked a town member. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 18:04:47 The last line in Matt V's post is basically just what I am thinking. Also, LMAO @ my voting history. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 19:33:54 We can't stop here! This is BAT COUNTRY! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Kmacc on 12/19/09 at 19:39:07 Cam, do you realize we can't read your posts? All you keep posting is this: 5F4E7B6C787B7D6A5D776C7D727B1E0 wrote:
6A7B4E594D4E485F68425948474E2B0 wrote:
78695C4B5F5C5A4D7A504B5A555C390 wrote:
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/19/09 at 19:43:52 Cam, Post the Jesus Christ one if you think Howes is mafia. Any other one if not. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 19:47:40 JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET OUT! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 19:53:00 Ok, so either Cam's messages are changing into one of the three different messages that he has posted entirely by chance and that it happened to be the one we were looking for, or he thinks AHowes is mafia, and we both thought this on day 1, so the latter instance is the one that is most likely to be true. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 19:55:35 Cam is posting them on a cycle, in the order shown in Kmacc's post. I doubt he can change that. Cam, can you post again to confirm this? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 19:56:20 JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET OUT! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/19/09 at 19:57:05 JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET OUT! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 19:58:33 Ok now it's official, he thinks you are mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 20:01:49 Cam makes me lol. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Kmacc on 12/19/09 at 20:02:23 ^I thought it was a cycle too until I just saw that. I really want to decipher it, but I don't think that's even possible. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 20:03:43 We just need to hurry up and lynch Howes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 20:04:41 meh, I'm screwed, even though I'm town... Here's a funny picture that started that, since I don't think I can change any more minds. http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/083005/basic-electronics-symbols.gif |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 20:05:49 I almost unvoted because that pic was hilarious. XD |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 20:06:39 Either we will get the two votes needed, or at the end of the 48 hour period Howes will be lynched by virtue of having the most votes cast against him. I strongly hope he's mafia at this point, because if he is town and just played a really bad game up until this point, my ass is getting lynched day 3, since I was one of the initial ones that pushed for the Howes lynch on day 1, and people are more convinced that Cam is town over me. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Magikoopa on 12/19/09 at 20:08:04 Kmacc: First real post of potential substance without any substance. Brave enough ot start the game off with a possible inane statement in jest says hes not mafia but town or literally he is mafia and knows Tim is not and what better way to get in there and cast a vote. (undecided) El Nino: Comes across innocent and clueless about the rules based upon being new. No reason at all not to believe this. One could argue that this is a mastermind plot of a mafia member, but I dont really know his typical posting style. (Seems town but undecided) MattV: Very first post in game is a jest vote for MVT, MVT turns out to be killed night 1 and is town. Calls on Jamie about not bolding his vote for Cam. I think is the first one to call No Lynch a suspicious idea. States a good bit about being away (in case someone thinks its him while hes gone? could be guilty conscious, could be covering his on ass) States about indecision which is perfectly valid if new evidence arises in my opinion. Has a gut feeling that Cam is town. Genuinely posts against Goose trying to get him lynched. Goose turns out mafia. (Conclusion: Town) TheGaff: Early post from him voting Timothy has a little blurb at the end asking if Goose is town. Seems like a harmless yet random comment, but makes him seem like hes clueless if its the case, possibly covering tracks of conviction. Nothing to really go on. Howes: Votes Goose as a random vote. Could be covering his tracks as he knows he is a cohort and will have the ability to change his vote later. Changes to Cam. Posts a long post. Tyler sees it as a lot of effort and therefore a giveaway of his innocence while Cam suspects it as a mafia ploy in disguise as hes used a similar tactic. Cam: Cant talk day 2 except with random comments that repeat. Either the mafia can do this or he cleverly chose to do this himself as a way to have no obvious way of defending himself to survive yet one more day. Votes Flo then MVT early in game. States Goose is definitely town being silly. Posts calling people out for not posting or being ambivalent, while that could be valid as a way to get people to talk more, not really any surefire evidence that they are mafia and gets another post for him which is obviously the measure hes using here to judge whos mafia and not. Then points accusations and a vote towards MVT for his mentioning of survivor tactics. Brings Howes back up later as a potential due to earlier posts. Then places a vote toward Howes later in another post. MVT strongly believes his innocence in a post towards the end of day 1. MVT is revealed town when he dies and is right about Goose. Goose points to Cam as the candidate to die towards the end while he has many votes. (Conclusion: town with some sort of mafia tactic put on him and I doubt he is doing it purposely or did it to himself.) Sean: First comment either just being silly or trying to make up something to seem town. Uses a clever tactic to fish out eagerness with Timothys comment to bold your vote for it to count and sean calls him on it. Timothy responds with a vote for him. Sean then shows eagerness to kill Tim as well using Tom as an excuse. Now that I look back at this, it seems more like a silly ego war between the two with no substance, but I could be wrong. Votes Goose at the end so seems silly if he were mafia (Conclusion: Id say Town) Dave Smith: Hasnt been involved very much at all. Makes it very difficult to pinpoint him for anything. When he does make a post its the clear logic of that hes stated hes town, thats it. Okay??? Goose: Important to see what hes doing for sure. Votes Cam for whatever reason I still dont understand so he could be voting for own mafia buddy or random town he knows. Sticks with the Cam idea later on with faulty logic in how good he is at these games. (Points to an innocent Cam in my book. If so, that means Cams not doing the wierdness on purpose) Me: First post is what this all reminded me of. The man and black and Vizzini going back and forth with rediculous logic. Next I vote Sean as he seems eager to kill Tim. I stick with that vote throughout because I see no other evidence for anyone else in particular. With people gone now there is motive or at least something beyond complete speculation. Slightly defended Goose in my last post before the end of the game in that his defense just seemed so transparent that I wouldnt expect any mafia mastermind to act this way. Gave him to much credit obviously. Further explained that those weak arguments didnt really help town either. It wasnt enough to switch my vote. Mattv of course had a right to call me on that as it was a poorly timed comment seeing Goose is now dead. I was sitting around reading the forums and voicing my opinion. I may have considered this a poor time to post if I was mafia. I feel I would play better than this as a mafia member knowing that posting on a fellow members behalf right before they die is just stupid because it doesnt change anything and just calls attention to me. Id think the same thing for Howes if it wasnt for the stuff with Cam and MVT. Timothy: is fires back at Sean in what seems to be a spite war and mentions Gaff as a suspect. Doesnt really tell me anything. (undecided) Joe: calls Goose out on the silliness of his accusations toward Cam with a logical argument. Then calls Dave out for missing in action.Both seem reasonable |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 20:08:16 I pretty much just bandwagoned, despite my suspicions of other people. XD |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Magikoopa on 12/19/09 at 20:09:54 From all of this what I can put together: Cam is innocent due to everything stated above and has been altered in some way in his posts hes a pretty vocal guy in here and suspects Howes, votes Howes. Howes makes a comment toward the end about Gooses possible innocence without much explanation. MVT was also very vocal and was right about Goose, we would know we could trust him most likely because he started the whole snowball pulling Cam out of the noose and Goose in it. He also mentions Goose or Howes as either both town or both mafia. Flo havent figured this part out yet, maybe hes said something about another mafia member? maybe he was just vocal I dunno. AHowes has a lot of evidence against him embedded within this entire thread. I have a gut feeling about Dave Smith being another potential candidate. Once I figure out what the deal is with Flo maybe this could tell me more about who else is mafia? For now: VOTE: Howes This is where the evidence points. got nothing on Dave as there is nothing to have. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 20:12:19 One more vote. Someone solidify the lynch please. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 20:15:23 I do hope the mafia don't kill too many of the masons. It was a shame that they killed MVT so early. http://knowyourmeme.com/system/icons/638/original/Ceilingcat.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/298999927_1259f006ba.jpg http://knowyourmeme.com/i/11015/original/Amlion.jpg?1251096245 |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 20:16:09 Dave Smith has made about 2 posts this whole game. Quiet people hurt the mafia much more than the town since they are most likely to be lynched. Dave will probably end up being lynched later on in the game due to his limited posting, and he hasn't exactly contributed much in the few posts he has made. His first post was irrelevant just stating he was town, and his second post just was basically a vote for sportsguy with an explanation of why he hasn't been here. Hard to pinpoint anything from that, if he is mafia he should definitely start talking more. A 1/4 or 1/5 loss for town is much more devastating than a 1/12 or 1/13 loss for mafia. There isn't anything to go on from 2 posts. Cmon guys we need 1 more vote and this day will be over very quickly. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 20:16:53 Oh, and LMAO @ Howes' post. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 20:17:45 I'd suggest a vigilante kill on Dave Smith, honestly. Not worth wasting a lynch on. Oh, and I refuse to vote myself off as a matter of principle. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Matt V on 12/19/09 at 20:19:56 It's bed time for me, I won't be back on for about 20 hours at least. Give 'em hell town! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by BrettMK on 12/19/09 at 20:30:22 I hate to ask this, but what is a vigilante kill? You tell us not to use a lynch on Dave Smith, but if he is town, then the mafia won't waste a kill on him, and besides, he is just hurting whichever side he is on by not helping out any. So what is a vigilante kill? I know if I had a kill I wouldn't use it on him unless it got into the later stages of the game and I still happened to have it. And no, I don't have a kill anyway. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by AHowes on 12/19/09 at 20:38:33 A Vigilante is a town player who has the power to kill people at night, similar to mafia. Occasionally they have unlimited kills, but often there is some kind of restriction in order to make them less overpowered. It's to the town's advantage if the vigilante kills during the night, since it keeps us from having to use a lynch to discover alignment. This site (http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page) is a wiki with all the information you could ever need for mafia, and more. This link (http://bit.ly/5iq8W5) I wouldn't recommend clicking unless you can close a window very quickly. Safe for work, but very annoying. edit quickly: This seems to sum things up. Choose wisely. http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/labyrinth_puzzle.png |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Adam L on 12/19/09 at 23:56:45 welp http://averagecats.s3.amazonaws.com/ceilingcat.jpg |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by Pistaker on 12/20/09 at 03:14:35 fuck it Vote HOWES |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by El Niño on 12/20/09 at 03:22:21 I'm kinda annoyed, I barely have time to read all posts since the last time I've been on the board and I have to leave. >:( @Howes: I don't do a lot of analyse for a couple reasons: _lack of experience. _lack of time. Post #292 by Magikoopa: I find your comment about me absolutely hilarious (mastermind plot), not only because it's not true (duh!) but also because during my long hours away from my computer, I've come to realize that the way I have played so far could be interpreted perfectly as a Mafia plan. ;D to your idea! Cam: I think he's TOWN. I don't think he would have brought his condition upon himself. Only way I could change my mind is if Howes ends up being a TOWN, but that's unlikely. Howes: I thought about unvoting him at about page 11, but decided to keep my vote. I expect him to be MAFIA. Post #257 by Sportsguy brings up an interesting point of view. I agree that IF he is TOWN, mayor should consider saving him, because Howes being TOWN brings up a world of posibilities for us, and having him alive and among us could help a lot. Brett: TOWN. As for Cam, if Howes turns out to be TOWN (highly unlikely, I repeat), he's one big suspect for me. As Brett himself puts it at the end of post #255. ZootmanX: Now this is interesting. I can't say much except that he may be linked to MVT's death. Remember day 1, when they were talking about being allies? Think of the theory about MVT recruting a MAFIA and thus getting killed. For now, Zoot is MAFIA for me. -Christophe. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Day 2] Post by KoopZ on 12/20/09 at 10:47:15 After hearing the Sun's Song off in the distance, the members of the troupe figured they'd better off someone very quickly. "Hey, Howes tried to save Goose! Let's kill him! "No, that was a mistake!" Howes cried out. "I was blind deaf and dumb yesterday, but found a blue potion so I have better logic now! Let me live! But the rest of the troupe would hear nothing of it. They lit their Bombs and Bombchus and tossed them towards his tent. The Bombchus went completely amiss and scurried off in to the distance, but the regular Bombs' aim was true, and blew Howes to bits. Howes has been lynched. He was a Hylian, TOWN Vanilla. Night 2 has begun. You have 23 hours, 15 minutes to send me your night actions via PM. Day 2 Votes Howes - Kmacc, Brett, Christophe, Gaff, Sean, (Jamie), Matt V, Clay, Jamie Kmacc - Howes Day 2 Vote Totals Howes [8] Kmacc [1] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Night 2] Post by KoopZ on 12/21/09 at 10:05:03 A little shaken still from their decision the previous day, the troupe awoke hoping to not find two more bodies... Cam has been killed. He was Nabooru, TOWN Miller. Slightly relieved that they didn't lose two more of their number, they gathered their belongings and pressed on. Day 3 has begun. With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Day 3 ends in 48 hours, or when a player has reached 7 votes. Remaining Players 1. Brett 3. Christophe (El Nino) 4. Clay (Magikoopa) 5. Dave Smith 7. Gaff 10. Jamie (Pistaker) 11. Joe (Eoj) 12. Kmacc 13. Matt V 15. Sean (Zootmanx) 16. Tim 17. Tyler (Sportsguy) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Attack of LolCats? [Night 2] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/21/09 at 10:06:31 Going down as a blabbering idiot is the best way to go, seriously. Good luck guys! :) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/21/09 at 10:29:27 wow i knew i shouldnt have voted, for howes, though it wouldnt have made a difference, he dug his own grave by acting like the biggest gumbo playing. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Kmacc on 12/21/09 at 10:30:30 Well, I'm a bit lost. I honestly can't tell if the mafia bandwagoned, or if they just sat back and laughed at us as we voted off Howes. I'm pretty sure I had strong arguments that people agreed with as to why Howes was suspicious, so I want to believe that the mafia members didn't even have to vote him off. I'm probably wrong though, so I'm going to have to work harder at this. I figure the random gibberish Cam was speaking yesterday is a one-use ability, and if not, it's probably only an every other day thing. Either way, I assume they couldn't do it again to Cam today, so they decided to kill him off. Cam should have been protected... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by ZootManX on 12/21/09 at 10:58:41 lol Howes. Officically the worst player in mafia history. Right, whats the link for the posting stats? Someone fucks aren't speaking at all, lets off 'em. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/21/09 at 10:59:02 Jesus christ, this looks bad. Perhaps we should take a look at who started the Howes bandwagon... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/21/09 at 11:00:16 Stats link is on page 5 btw. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Kmacc on 12/21/09 at 11:01:53 Here you go Sean: http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi Dave Smith only has two posts, Joe only has three.. We need these two to start talking, otherwise they might be good to use vig kills on. We probably shouldn't waste a lynch on them since we won't learn much if they are town, but that's just my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/21/09 at 11:04:32 I wish Tom would get in here more as well... Btw, it was you that started the Howes bandwagon Kevin. But, we all thoguht he was mafia, so it's not really conclusive for anything... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/21/09 at 11:04:51 Let's see. Kmacc starts the lynch on Howes. Dave is worthless, Joe is worthless now, but he knows what he is doing at least i hope so. The gaff is borderline worthless. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Kmacc on 12/21/09 at 11:09:24 I know that I was the first to vote for Howes, that's pretty obvious. I think I had a pretty legitimate case for why I was doing it though, Howes just played a REALLY bad game. I just have a quick question. I might be imagining things, but wasn't Tom mafia in one of the last games (between this one and LOST mafia)? If he was, was his behavior similar to this, as in being quiet and conservative? Or was he still very active and went by his "gut"? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by ZootManX on 12/21/09 at 11:19:46 Well, every time I've seen him play he's a regular poster. He hasn't posted nearly enough this game. Vote: Tom Lets see what he has to say now. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/21/09 at 11:22:09 Quote:
Hmm... I agree Dave is suspicious because he can too easily avoiud any suspicion without any type of case to build upon. Sounds like a cowardly but smart mafia survival strategy to me. Yes Kmacc started the trend as the first to post. Also could be suspicious. But what about this... 69594E5F5F2B0 wrote:
This statement that is so rigid in its thinking and unopened to change. Not to mention timed in an appropriate bandwagon vote cannot go unnoticed. I place a vote upon Brett at least to get him talking. Vote: BrettMK |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Sportsguy002 on 12/21/09 at 11:25:16 I accidentally logged out and now it won't let me back in so i had to create a new account and i can't pm Alex until i have 1 forum post so here is that post. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/21/09 at 11:29:41 Vote: Tom |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/21/09 at 11:40:23 i dont get it, i can check peoples night actions people, i scanned kmacc, it said he protected cam? wtf koopz. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Timothy on 12/21/09 at 11:41:29 Hmmm I wonder who it was who says he didn't want to vote as we had more time to decide on who to lynch? [smiley=chairshot.gif] Vote: Tom Speak up Gaff! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/21/09 at 11:52:53 Vote Dave Smith |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Kmacc on 12/21/09 at 11:59:11 Jamie basically confirmed why I'm really confused and lost. We need to hear a lot more from Joe, Dave, Tom and even Christophe as well. Everyone's input is helpful, even if you're wrong. It helps us to have clues for the next day in case a person is nightkilled. If somebody is nightkilled and they barely spoke, we'll never have any leads. Therefore, speaking really helps, even if it's only a thing or two. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/21/09 at 12:31:33 kmacc, did you try to protect cam? this is exactly what happened in my other game. People didnt speak for two reasons, one was because they were afk, and two, tom said it was a mafia tactic for some people to present them self as afk. I say tom, dave are def mafia, anyone else who has not been posting regularly, i have some gut feeling about them, kmacc, i dont know, why would a mafia protect a townie? Matt v just dicks around, though he was pretty quick to blame kevin, but then said it was not anyones fault. sean, dicks around and loves putting blame, i am aware im suspisious, in my way. Koopz, can you comfirm the issue, i saw kmacc protect cam, but he must have done a pretty shit job as cams dead. Was cam mod killed? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/21/09 at 12:35:03 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkNyC6MQMj0[/media] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Eoj on 12/21/09 at 12:56:05 I sat back on Day 2, and I understand that it looks really bad. I honestly didn't know what to say about the Howes lynch. In past games, I have always taken what Kmacc, Etch, Karterfreak, and Cooper said to be trustworthy, and in this particular game, I saw Kmacc's post and felt like I would just be piling onto what he was saying. I don't like posting for the sake of posting, so when I feel like I have nothing more to add, I just sit back. I understand that in a mafia game, EVERY post matters, but sometimes when you post just for the hell of it, it comes off as a "mafia tactic." I obviously don't want that happening... That being said... This is the most important day of the game. It is absolutely necessary to kill a mafia member tonight, otherwise the game could essentially be over. We need to have EVERYONE talking in this day. No more sitting back and playing it cool (*raises hand*), and no more lack of posting (*raises hand again*)... Dave and Tom, you guys (along with me) really need to step it up today. Tom- in past games, you've always had a strong mafia radar, and yes, I always think that eventually you're going to be mafia, so I throw some heat on you early on, but you're always able to back out of it. This game is going astronomically different. Care to explain? Dave- I think your quietness is hurting us the most. As a self-proclaimed "Greatest Mafia Player EVER!" you really need to prove it. I want to hear your plan for today... Let's not get too lynch happy too soon (like we already seem to be doing). We need to think this through and nail a mafia member for sure. There is no question... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Timothy on 12/21/09 at 13:18:16 Are there 5 or 6 mafia overall? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/21/09 at 13:49:11 I'm back. Firefox had my user name saved lower case for some unknown reason. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by BrettMK on 12/21/09 at 13:49:33 042B263E470 wrote:
The reason why it appeared to be a bandwagon vote was because Kmacc got to the issue before me. I initially voted for Howes on day 1, don't forget this, and I explained my reasoning thoroughly throughout days 1 and especially day 2, when I had more time to post due to lack of school. Also you were...the 6th or 7th vote to be places on Howes, when I was the 2nd of the day, and you accuse me of a bandwagon vote? You ought to look at your own vote. Anyway, I'll wait until a little later to place a vote, I am sure I am high on the suspect lists of quite a few people right now because I pushed so hard for the Howes lynch, but he did play like a complete fool, and nothing he did benefited the town, so my (and everyone else's) reasons for accusing him of mafia were completely justified. He was TOWN Vanilla, and he had absolutely no reason to play like he did. For now though, no vote from me until I can make a more positive vote, although that will be difficult because nobody so far has played like Howes has. Dave Smith, Joe, and Tom are both on my suspect lists because they have not been talking really at all this game, and Christophe may be mafia because all he has really done is jumped on the bandwagon for voting, but I honestly think this is just a mistake and that Christophe is town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/21/09 at 13:50:16 Tim, i'd say there would be 4 mafia left. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/21/09 at 14:01:30 Vote Dave Smith He hasn't been on in the last three days. This is unacceptable. Watch him have the cop role and doom us by not finding out any information during the night. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/21/09 at 15:22:26 1626312020540 wrote:
Very well...still on my suspect list, but at least you offered an explanation when asked. On the contrary, we still haven't heard really anything from Dave. UNVOTE VOTE: Dave -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:16:53 I can haz cheezburger? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:17:50 IT'S OVER 9000! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:18:47 Time to take over the world! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:19:30 IT'S OVER 9000! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:20:33 I can haz cheezburger? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:21:15 Time to take over the world! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:23:01 IT'S OVER 9000! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:24:23 I can haz cheezburger? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:25:13 I can haz cheezburger? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/21/09 at 16:26:15 IT'S OVER 9000! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Timothy on 12/21/09 at 16:38:41 Cool strat Tom. [smiley=thumbdown.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/21/09 at 16:47:50 The most Tom has posted all game is in gibberish...how convenient. Whats the incentive of messing up Toms posts when he hasnt contributed anything worthwhile the whole game? I'm on the same theory as I had with Cam. Either he cleverly did it to himself to avoid yet another day of having to defend himself, or mafia blocked him thinking hed have something important to say or due to his lack of posts of substance wouldnt be able to defend himself and possibly get lynched. I have nothing to really go on but speculation here, so I cant very well vote for him with any confidence. At least hes trying to post vs Dave. Keeping my vote on Dave for the moment cause I really want to hear what hes got to say. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by BrettMK on 12/21/09 at 16:54:39 Cam was TOWN, he was killed last night so I am 100% sure. Cam was also a good block from a mafia standpoint. Tom, however, has no reason to be blocked, like you said, he has contributed very little throughout the course of the game, and I think right now he is just posting random sentences to try to sneak through another day. I think he's mafia, and I am leaning towards voting for him over Dave at this point, but I'll wait further. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/21/09 at 19:24:30 Well, lets weight our options on that matter. If we lynch him, he's potentially mafia or town. If we leave him be and mafia kills him the the night, he's town. If he's still alive the next day, he's likely mafia but still could be town in that they left him alive because he hasn't contributed much anyway and he'd look guilty. The fact of the matter is...we dont know. While it sucks that he hasnt said much, unfortunately its a good survival strategy in this case. The thing that bugs me though is, why would be so afraid to post unless he was mafia? I mean, yes we can see that Howes dug a hole for himself by defending...But the object is so that one side wins correct? Not a particular individual. There's a whole lot more town than mafia, but thats changing quickly and its at least worth putting effort into defending town for the sake of a win for the town. In this case Tom is trying hard to post over and over again. While that is more effort than has been shown, clearly 1 to 2 posts of gibberish is enough to tell everyone you cant talk. Why pound that point in with multiple posts of gibberish. Its not necessary... Joe is right. We need to lynch a mafia this day for sure. Its becoming more obvious to me that an unwillingness to talk weighs more suspiciously than someone who is willing to defend themselves. So I leave my vote on Dave for now to try and push for a defend at least. If he can at least do that, then Tom might be a more likely suspect to me. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by BrettMK on 12/21/09 at 19:42:31 If Tom is TOWN, the mafia won't bother to waste a night kill on him, same goes for Dave Smith. Both of these guys have contributed nothing in this game throughout the three days besides Tom's vote to lynch Howes, which really doesn't say much. I am sure some of the mafia that knew Howes was town voted for him to try to blend in well. It's a good strategy. Why do you think MVT was killed the first day? It was because he claimed that he had a big role on page 1 (which was true), and the mafia knew he was town and would be a threat. Therefore he was taken out day 1. Flo I am not too sure about. Say for example that Cam was mafia, he basically would have gotten through day 2 unscathed, and Tom is most likely trying to pull that strategy day 3. And not that it means anything because this is randomized, but Tom has been town every game so far I believe, and he is due to be on the mafia side soon. I am still torn between the two. On one side of the coin Tom is a more threatening mafia, but Dave would be a liability to have as a townie, but lynching a townie would still put us in a most likely to lose situation. I will probably end up voting in the last few hours of the day, or not at all. Truth is, I could end up being the swing vote if everything remains tied like it is. I don't want to make that decision. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/21/09 at 20:23:43 It sounds bad, but I'll just vote whoever you guys think I should. This shit is too confusing, and everyone knows I'm town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by ZootManX on 12/21/09 at 21:42:48 Why are you town again Matt? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Kmacc on 12/21/09 at 23:28:32 6D544E495C56584F3D0 wrote:
Yeah, I assume Koopz has it right, and something weird just happened. Mafia probably had some kind of unblockable skill. Anyway, it looks like Tom has the gibberish curse now. Great. I don't know if the same thing happened to Tom as what happened to Cam, or if Tom is mafia and trying to make believe something has happened to him when it hasn't. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/22/09 at 00:58:03 I can haz cheezburger? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by El Niño on 12/22/09 at 01:47:09 *Groan* Another 2 1/2 pages to read through before posting... *Groan* But at least 1/2 a page is gibberish written by, you guessed it, Tom. Now, to my point: After having Cam write gibberish on day 2, Tom's seems quite suspicious. This should be a very limited power as has been mentioned before. I'd like someone with more experience to agree or deny my statement before placing my vote, but as of now, my main suspect is Tom. I have nothing else to say for the moment, except that Brett is an obvious target, but let's use our alloted time before jumping to conclusions. We musn't repeat our error from day 2. -Christophe. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/22/09 at 02:30:20 IT'S OVER 9000! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/22/09 at 04:41:58 tom, say its over 9000 if you think dave smith is mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/22/09 at 06:32:08 I can haz cheezburger? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/22/09 at 06:32:51 Time to take over the world! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Travels Begin [Day 1] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 07:44:18 0534273A2D30213C3B30550 wrote:
He sure hasnt been... Found this in the signups board for Zelda mafia. Dave would not have known what role he was gonna be before he said this. I dont know if this implies inactivity on the forums or just to posting in that he doesnt have much to say. If its posting then why would he sign up for a posting game in the first place? If he is truly dead weight. Town would get no benefit from him for a vote towards lynching and hed pose little threat to mafia (so no need to kill off immediately), and I assume if he were mafia of course they would keep him around simply not to lower their numbers. The verdict is still out on Tom, but with Dave offering nothing still I leave my vote on him. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 08:04:18 Thinking more into it...If he is mafia and inactive, he's probably not the one killing us in the night or messing up our speech, and he's obviously not voting towards a lynch of one of us. Then again, it would be easy for him to do those things without posting anything. Has anyone seen him on the message board lately? -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Adam L on 12/22/09 at 08:27:22 Quote:
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 09:24:00 Not entirely correct but close. While this is my first time playing and I am not familiar with all of the dynamics and strategies, I am familiar with the basic rules. One of which is: Quote:
You had a chance to sign up within the sign-up topic and there were two spots left open before we started. If you wanted to voice your opinion you should have signed up to play. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by KoopZ on 12/22/09 at 09:35:58 Day 3 Votes Tom - Sean, Matt V, Tim Brett - (Clay) Dave Smith - Jamie, Tyler, Clay Day 3 Vote Totals Tom [3] Dave Smith [3] With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Day 3 ends in 24 hours 30 minutes, or when a player has reached 7 votes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 10:03:20 0621263C2D26222718273F2D3A480 wrote:
Going back and reading the entire thread. One thing stands out with Joe. He hasnt voted for anyone yet...considering there would be no trail to follow when someone dies this way, it seems rather suspicious to me. Quote:
I agree. And yet you still havent followed up with your promise of talking or contributing more. We've got a few votes on Dave and Tom at the moment, but we still need more information. I'm gonna switch my vote to you. UNVOTE VOTE: Joe -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/22/09 at 10:43:33 tom or dave, one of them is mafia, one is town. One is afk, one is using a tactic. I doubt their both town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Adam L on 12/22/09 at 11:55:03 1639342C550 wrote:
I'll let Koopz tell me to stop rather than some peon who sucks at mafia, tia |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 11:58:37 Suit yourself. But at the moment, you are playing worse than I am by breaking the basic rules =P -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/22/09 at 12:09:11 Why are you trying to target the guy everyone agrees is town Sean? Suspicious... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 12:20:58 Well considering I thought both of you were most likely town, that would now make both of you suspicious to me. Now my head hurts. Sean weights a little more guilty from my perspective only because of his eagerness on day 1, but both of you voted for Goose. Regardless, there are others that seem more likely guilty than either of you at the moment. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Eoj on 12/22/09 at 12:23:51 Just because I haven't voted doesn't automatically make me a mafia member, Clay. It's actually no worse than voting then unvoting then voting then unvoting in order to make it look like you're trying to play the game right. I may not be posting as much as you do (because quantity doesn't equal quality), but by trying to push for a lynch and then backpedaling doesn't come off as very knowledgeable. Putting pressure on people is by asking them questions and getting them to talk before throwing a vote onto them. Hear what they have to say before making a decision that could sway the entire town. I called out Dave and Tom, NOT by voting for them, but by simply wanting to hear more from them before I make a rash decision. Tom appears to have been stricken with some disease which makes him talk like a 14 year old, and Dave is nowhere to be found. So after all of that, who do I feel is the enemy at this stage of the game? Vote: Dave Smith You obviously are allowed to keep your vote on me, because I'm confident that I can convince you to see otherwise. All you have to do is ask... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Eoj on 12/22/09 at 12:29:55 On a day where the silent absolutely NEED to come forward and offer their input, Dave has still remained silent. If any of you have played in past games with me, you'd know that I don't stand for silence on pivotal days. I believe it's perfectly fine in the first day or two to sit back and let the game play out while you watch and take notice of everyone's actions, but if the town lynches one of our own today, this game is just about fucking over. I don't think people quite understand this yet... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by BrettMK on 12/22/09 at 12:37:00 The problem is Dave is completely useless right now regardless if he is town or mafia. Tom would be slightly more helpful if he is town, and slightly more dangerous if he was mafia. I don't know what to do here, either way I will most likely be accused of jumping on the bandwagon, but Dave and Tom are the only real logical lynches at this point in the game. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/22/09 at 12:47:26 And what have I done that's so suspicious Clay? I'm just not making any bold moves because, as you know, this shit is getting utterly insane, and I don't want to look like a mafia. There are a couple people I trust and I shal make my vote according to them. So don't waste your breath trying to incriminate me. I'm not sure why I'm even defending myself to you considering you could be mafia easily, you're not on my innocent list. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 12:48:58 Quote:
Very well, but you literally just went against your own logic there by casting a vote for Dave who hasnt said anything on his behalf yet. I agree with you in sitting back and trying to uncover the clues, but there is no harm in casting a vote to get someone talking. You can withdraw later with a proper explanation as to why. With a 48 hour timespan you have plenty of time to argue your case and not steer anyone down the wrong path. That being said. I dont know anything about Dave whereas I know that Tom would have been able to see yesterday that Cam couldnt talk. Today hes posting more than ever while in this screwed up state whereas only a couple posts would have sufficed as proof that he cannot speak. Furthermore, hes also "hung" back this game which doesnt allow anyone to build any sort of case and it wouldnt make sense that someone would want to shut him up when he hasnt said anything anyway. Personally, I think they both are more than likely guilty, but Tom is more obvious in this case. Finally with all of that said, all I'm asking you to do Joe is get more involved as thats what you said you would do. Right now you're still a bit suspicious to me, however Tom is a lot more suspicious. UNVOTE VOTE: Tom -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 12:52:23 Quote:
Suspicious because you defend yourself by accusing the other guy who accuses you in retaliation and you keep reiterating that everyone thinks your town for your argument. What would be the need to attack at anyone rather than to just plainly defend yourself with a logical argument. You never reference "why" everyone thinks you're town, you just say everyone think that. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/22/09 at 13:07:30 Oh, and what logical arguement could I make without referencing other people's opinions and my past actions? Words are next to meaningless here, I can say I'm town, but that means nothing. I tell you that everyone thinks I am town because there are multiple people who have flat-out said so, which means you shouldn't be doubting me at all if you really are town. I will quote them if I must. I must also point out that I was the second person to vote for Goose, and did not change my vote. Would a mafia do that? You just randomly jumped on me when I was talking to Sean, which makes me suspicious, it appears you're trying to take heat off of yourself by randomly jumping in and accusing not just me, but Sean as well, and I'm betting he will defend himself to me and you when he ahs the chance. Also, if you don't attack people, the game does not progress and mafia will win without a doubt. There, I have now broken down and answered every bit of your post. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Eoj on 12/22/09 at 13:10:03 Keep it up, Matt. You may think that you're lost in the game, but your posts help each of us whether you think so or not... C'mon, Dave. I gotta hear from you today... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Eoj on 12/22/09 at 13:12:55 Also, I have league bowling tonight (again), so I'll be out of action from 6-10, then we go trivia at TGIF from 10-midnight, so I'm just letting you guys know that I'll be semi-away from the game before false conclusions are made... I'm bringing my Ipod touch, so I'll keep an eye on the game while I'm bowling, but making a detailed post is extraordinarily hard to do with that little guy. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Magikoopa on 12/22/09 at 13:47:39 6C5449484F646B575A425E49647E4D5E493B0 wrote:
Again fair enough, but there hasnt been any heat on me to begin with except for Sean and when you randomly said you just felt like I seem suspicious on day 1. I didnt just randomly jump on you either. I stated what I felt and I even stated that I thought Sean seemed more suspicious. Sean has accused me of being suspicious in the past, so unless he's changed his mind I doubt that he will be coming to my rescue. You are getting very defensive when really all I had said in the comment was that you seemed suspicious because I thought that both of you were most likely town but then you were in an accusation battle so that wouldnt make any sense. Now it seems like you are digging a hole for yourself as you continue to accuse me based only off the fact that I accused you. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by The Gaff on 12/22/09 at 14:15:51 Time to take over the world! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/22/09 at 14:26:51 UNVOTE VOTE TOM no point lynching someone inactive. I said tom is seconded so i may aswell. tom is very butters and has no hair. do you agree tom. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by ZootManX on 12/22/09 at 16:04:48 09312C2D2A010E323F273B2C011B283B2C5E0 wrote:
I'm not targetting you son I'm just asking why. I don't really wanna take something for granted when everyone also thought Howes was mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by ZootManX on 12/22/09 at 16:39:47 Just wrote a nice and sexy post and then my internet cut out. I'm not typing that shit out again so In short: If your a bro Matt, gimme a [smiley=thumbsup.gif]. I don't wanna look like a gumbo if you're mafia. AND if you are, I'll spam rape you till you die. Tom is dangerous, I think he's got a big role. Dave is fucking this game up, and Clay, your acting bait but Tom is the key. Lets kill this fuck. Joe, bowlings a nice excuse and not voting is a bit iffy but mafia or just a bad player i don't know. AND last but not least my old friend Timothy. Like I said before, this character is in a way, a physcial representation of my biggest weakness; my big balls. I've sum how got a vendetta against this matey and it is blocking any sort of analysis i want to make. Game Plan II: Option 1: Lynch Tom, Lynch Dave tomorrow. One of these fucks has to be mafia. Option 2: Lynch Dave and wait for Tom to be able to speak. Option 3: Lynch Clay, the fuck. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by BrettMK on 12/22/09 at 19:44:15 Just realized the day will end about 1 hour before I have the chance to post again, so I will place my vote now. I was torn between the two for a while, but I think one of them has to be mafia, it is unlikely both are town. Not trying to bandwagon at all since I would have voted for one of the two anyway, but since Tom already has a 6-2 vote lead I might as well place my vote on him, since it is very unlikely that Dave Smith (or anybody else) will end up with more votes. Even if the last vote doesn't get placed on him,Tom will have the most votes at the end of the day anyway. Lets hope he's mafia, otherwise we have pretty much lost this game. Vote: Tom EDIT: Counted wrong, Tom had a 5-2 vote lead and NOW has a 6-2. Sorry. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by KoopZ on 12/22/09 at 20:00:45 Day 3 Votes Tom - Sean, Matt V, Tim, Clay, Jamie, Brett Brett - (Clay) Dave Smith - (Jamie), Tyler, (Clay), Joe Joe - (Clay) Day 3 Vote Totals Tom [6] Dave Smith [2] With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. Day 3 ends in 14 hours, or when a player has reached 7 votes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Matt V on 12/22/09 at 20:33:23 I'm gonna trust you Sean. I'm a townie btw. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by Pistaker on 12/23/09 at 00:39:17 Toms gonna die, think about it, dave has not said a fucking word, he dont need to say a word. The days keep going quick so i say we get dave. He hasnt said wether he would be away before he became afk so i say its a mafia tactic. Tom or dave are mafia. And scenario two makes more sense. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/23/09 at 11:09:32 Should this be locked? It's been 2 days, right? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by KoopZ on 12/23/09 at 11:25:41 It was a fairly quiet day on the troupe's journey towards Castle Town, but nevertheless they did reach a decision. "Tom's been speaking gibberish just like Cam did... Let's kill him!" "But Cam ended up being town! And he wasn't even lynched during the day!" "SHUT YOUR FACE AND KILL HIM!" So they pulled out their Hookshots and latched on to various parts of him and pulled him apart. Tom has been lynched. He was Princess Zelda, TOWN Scanner. Night 3 has begun. You have about 22 hours 30 minutes to send me your night actions via PM. Day 3 Vote Totals Tom [6] Dave Smith [2] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: The Epic Goes On [Day 3] Post by KoopZ on 12/24/09 at 09:56:54 The members of the troupe were starting to get desperate, knowing that no mafia members had died over the past few days. They slept fitfully, and awoke in the morning to more terror... Jamie has been killed. He was Impa, TOWN Tracker. Kmacc has been killed. He was Darunia, TOWN Body Guard. Day 4 has begun. With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch. The day will end in 48 hours, or when a player has reached 5 votes. Remaining Players 1. Brett 3. Christophe (El Nino) 4. Clay (Magikoopa) 5. Dave Smith 11. Joe (Eoj) 13. Matt V 15. Sean (Zootmanx) 16. Tim 17. Tyler (Sportsguy) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Eoj on 12/24/09 at 10:25:55 Jesus lap-dancing Christ... we're totally boned. I don't even know what to say now... I guess there's no sense in even stating my opinion. I don't see a way that we can win with our tracker, scanner, and body guard down... Good game, mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 10:37:16 Well as of yesterday I thought I had at least 2-3 people narrowed down as mafia, and as of today 2 of those suspects are dead. With Jamie blatantly posting that he could scan kmacc yesterday rather than clearing this up through PM with Cooper, it seemed clear to me that this was a transparent mafia tactic. The only other person that seemed more obvious to me was Dave because its just rediculous that he hasnt said anything. Then again, now that I think about it maybe he wasnt satisfied with his role if he was a vanilla and has decided not to bother. I have no suspects at this point except maybe people who didnt speak much yesterday or didnt place a vote. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Eoj on 12/24/09 at 10:39:24 This just plain sucks. I'm guessing that there are at least 3, if not 4 mafia members left, and there are 9 total players left in the game, so we have to be VERY careful on what we decide to do today. One wrong move and this game is seriously fucking over... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 11:05:01 More frustrating is that it is Christmas eve. I do not expect much action in here today or tomorrow simply because more than likely most people have some sort of plans. Do you have any ideas Joe? I'd like to hear from Christophe if possible today considering he didnt cast a vote yesterday. I understand I as well as MattV, Sean, Tim, and Brett will be under suspicion as well since we voted Tom yesterday. You and Tyler both voted Dave. I dont necessarily see any connection there considering Tom was town and if you were mafia you could have easily bandwagoned and got him lynched. Then again, maybe since the votes were in Toms favor there would be no need to vote his way and it would cleverly hide a trail. While there is a certain eagerness in your dejection post about how all is most likely lost without the power roles, that still doesnt tell me anything for sure because I feel that way myself. Still though I think we could still be winnable, no point in giving up yet as there are still more town than mafia if the games still going. I'd like to know why I can clearly post. I was pretty vocal yesterday with my ideas and it seems like it would have been a smart move on mafias part. Maybe they can do it only so many times. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by BrettMK on 12/24/09 at 11:10:35 Well, it looks as though TOWN is doomed this game, there are either 3 or 4 people left that have to be mafia, and I might as well claim my role because it says I can post the first sentence of my role PM on post 1. I swear this is my real role. You are Saria, TOWN Role Blocker. This really is my role in the game, and I hope you believe me. There's probably a Goron, TOWN Vanilla as well as Kokiri, TOWN Vanilla, and there may be a Gerudo or something, but that's all I got. Flo was a Zora and he was a TOWN vanilla, Kmacc was Darunia, and MVT was Ruto, and since I am Saria, there must be a Goron and a Kokiri. I think one more TOWN lynch will make us lose, this is not good. EDIT: I almost forgot, the reason why I didn't claim this before was because I feared that the mafia would kill me overnight, but now that is is later in the game and about half of us remain, I might as well claim it because it is one less person you have to worry about, and the mafia might have killed me this night anyway. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 11:23:28 Makes perfect sense to me Brett. I am: Bomb Shop Owner, TOWN Vanilla I'm off to do some shopping and meet up with family in a bit, so I wont be on for a while. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/24/09 at 13:15:55 Vote Dave Smith |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Timothy on 12/24/09 at 14:20:17 Hmmm, I totally fucked up with thinking Tom was mafia, but to be fair he was really disappointing and made no effort to save himself. Vote: Dave Smith |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 14:21:34 K, back from shopping and have a little time before family stuff at 6. Brett's statement seems believable to me. While it probably wont help if we lynch a mafia today however because now they will know you are a role-blocker and just kill you. In your defense, you were and are taking a big risk in doing that because if any of us are that role and calls your bluff, then you and that person will be immediately be suspicious of being mafia. In good faith I've put myself out there as well. This might be a helpful strategy at this point in the game because if one of mafia slips up that increases our odds of pulling in a mafia lynch. It is also imperative that Dave speaks up today because we really need his vote if hes not mafia. If hes a mafia then he's played a perfect game because I have nothing to accuse him with by not saying a damn thing and if hes town he's killing our chances of getting this right. I dont want to waste a vote towards him as of yet unless there is just an overwhelming suspicion from everyone else. He hasnt added anything to the game, so I have nothing to go on. That being said, I assume Matt will show his face soon enough, Joe has made statements today already, Sean and Tim I'd like to hear from you. I'd also like to hear from Tyler why Dave? Since Christophe didnt vote yesterday, but has been active in the game, I'm gonna put a vote towards you to at least get an explanation. VOTE: Christophe |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Timothy on 12/24/09 at 14:22:52 Town vigilantes are on form this game [smiley=roll.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 14:35:08 So now we got two votes toward Dave. I'm gonna leave my vote on Christophe for now, but I'm willing to bandwagon on this one if everyone else feels this way. If he ends up being town then I blame him for us losing this game. Seriously, why sign up if you're not gonna play? -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by BrettMK on 12/24/09 at 14:35:27 I know the mafia will most likely kill me overnight because they know I have a decent town role, unlike those that are TOWN Vanillas. That's the only reason I took a risk like that. Another problem I noticed is that I put out potential roles for others to claim. If anyone else claims Saria, they are lying. I had to take a risk with revealing myself for the benefit of the town. If a mafia dies today because of it then my goal in this game was accomplished. I didn't take this risk earlier because I would probably be killed at night earlier. I figured I might have to post my role on Day 3 because I was high on the suspect lists of several people, but Tom already had the votes on him so I could get away with it for another night. Tom was a complete waste. He had a good role and fucked up by not posting hardly anything. Why are a lot of the towns people playing badly? AHowes, Tom, and possibly Dave Smith? Christophe: You've been quiet practically all game, and when you would post, you would either follow the voting bandwagon, or post something that really doesn't help the town. I am assuming that you are TOWN Vanilla, because it would be somewhat fitting for you to be that role due to your inexperience and the way you have posted so far. You are on my suspect list but not at the very top. I don't think voting for Dave Smith is the right choice, remember that if he IS town we will have about a 99% chance of losing the game, and it is impossible to really know if he is town or mafia, he has posted next to nothing. If he is mafia then he is useless as well, so lynching him if he is mafia will only make their number dwindle, but won't affect their strategy as they still have 2 or 3 active mafias, and Dave wasn't exactly active. I know this sounds very very suspicious, but if Dave continues to get more votes I will vote for him, but I don't think he is the right choice. If he is mafia though I don't know if I will last to the end of this game because of that statement. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 14:43:27 Brett, while you're not really on my suspicious list because of what you did, realize that Quote:
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by BrettMK on 12/24/09 at 14:45:16 Yeah I guess I never thought of that, he could be silent on the forums but make all the night kills? Crazy strategy but it might have worked thus far! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Everyday Normal Guy on 12/24/09 at 16:12:26 http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7271/508614200706021858030bie.jpg |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by ZootManX on 12/24/09 at 16:57:40 Holy Fuck! Allow it, I don't know about Dave but Tim its your time son, enough of this bs, you're mafia I know it. Vote: Timothy |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Timothy on 12/24/09 at 17:03:00 Want a bet? I'll get paypal just for this. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by ZootManX on 12/24/09 at 17:04:36 Send me that shit boi. |
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Title: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day 4] Post by AHowes on 12/24/09 at 18:12:48 Never got around to posting this over the last couple days, but good game so far. Also this should reset the mafia.cgi tool, however, it won't have the 4 votes that have been cast already. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Goose on 12/24/09 at 18:47:43 VANILLE! She is so hot :) Or is that lightning? They look the same :) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Eoj on 12/24/09 at 19:34:00 Vote: Dave Smith At this point, if you don't speak, you're better off dead... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 19:44:42 Well that's three for Dave I think. Seems to be the consensus. I hope were right on this, but you all know my stance on Dave. Dave you are completely responsible for us losing if you are town because if you are you could have changed this. UNVOTE VOTE: Dave -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by ZootManX on 12/24/09 at 19:48:22 unvote Vote: Dave Smith |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by ZootManX on 12/24/09 at 20:11:23 that makes 5, Daves dead and btw town... http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CBrg2cTGKFU/R3enF7xODLI/AAAAAAAAAbg/G0mGzVkaHzo/s320/merked.jpg |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Magikoopa on 12/24/09 at 20:14:45 [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLSqVKOeCe0[/media] And I wanna give a shout-out to my boy Adam L who deserves mentioning for his part in this. Thank you for doubting my mafia abilities and making it that much easier -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Adam L on 12/24/09 at 23:10:07 If it takes a non-playing member who noone trusts to call you out on being a bad mafia player for you to win, you're a bad mafia player? Idk, I don't think so. We'll have to see the night actions before we start handing out commendations for not sucking. tbh you gave yourself away earlier in this day but I had no idea who the other maf were. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by KoopZ on 12/24/09 at 23:11:13 Dave Smith has been lynched. He was Link, TOWN Jack of All Trades GAME OVER MAFIA WINS first off, i'd like to thank everyone who actually participated in the game. this was my first game hosting, so i hope you all enjoyed it. so the game itself.... my god, it was fun to watch. town REALLY got fucked over for a couple of reasons, the main one being that good players (they're good IMO) played really badly (howes) or just didnt play at all (tom). combine that with nearly the entire mafia being active the whole game plus some amazing luck with night actions and this game was in the mafia's hands from the very beginning. ROLES - TOWN Link, Jack of All Trades - had a Protect, Scan and a Kill ability. he could use one each during the course of the game. Zelda, Scanner - pick one person during the night and find out whether they are town or mafia. Darunia, Body Guard - pick one person during the night to have not be affected by any night actions whatsoever (strong man kill overrode this ability) Ruto, Mason - one of two that i picked. they were allowed to converse with each other outside of the topic here: zeldamason.proboards.com Saria, Role Blocker - pick one person during the night. if that person tries to perform a night action, that action will fail. Impa, Tracker - pick one person to follow during the night. if that person performs a night action, you will know what it was and who that night action was directed towards. Nabooru, Miller - no special abilities, but will show up guilty if scanned by the scanner/jack. Rauru, Mason - the other mason. same as Ruto. Hylian/Kokiri/Zora/Goron, Vanilla - no special abilities or characteristics. ROLES - MAFIA zeldamafia.proboards.com Ganondorf, Strong Man - allowed to make 3 unstoppable kills, one per night. this kill is in addition to the regular mafia kill. Koume, Silencer - pick one person during the night. that person will be unable to make any posts during the course of the next day. Kotake, Brain Washer - pick one person during the night. that person will only be able to say certain things during the course of the next day (all phrases picked by myself) Shadow Link, Infiltrator - mafia disguised as a town mason. was allowed access to both the masons' board and the mafia board. would appear as a townie if scanned. Iron Knuckle, Role Blocker - prevent one person each night from performing a night action. same as town role blocker, just on the side of the mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: Will Castle Town be reached? [Day Post by Eoj on 12/24/09 at 23:20:31 Probably not my best game that I've played, but I had it pretty easy considering my role. I didn't have to do much to gain the trust from the town, so once that was established, I pretty much said all I had to say in order to keep my name clean. I defended myself fairly well, and heat was never really put onto me. I never pushed for a lynch for anyone besides Dave for being inactive, but that wasn't until the game was pretty much in the mafia's hands... Good game, mafia. It was a pretty cool game to play with the role that I had. And Clay, you are a conspiracy theorist through and through. If you sent me one more PM asking me about what roles the town could possibly play, I was gonna snap. I know it was your first game and all, but c'mon man, if a townie knew ALL of the mafia members, the game would have been over on Day 2 at the latest. Take it easy, duder... :P |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/24/09 at 23:28:05 That's cuz I wasn't here to put the heat on you Joe. I knew you were mafia from day 2 onward [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by KoopZ on 12/24/09 at 23:37:30 this post is just gonna be a rambling of my own thoughts on the game, so bear with me if you get lost in my own thoughts. i cant get all the night actions up yet cuz i'm missing a page, but i'll get them up hopefully sometime in the next 12 hours (i started Day 3 from my girlfriend's house, and i took the page i wrote them all down on over there with me and then left it there). ok. i think the teams looked fairly balanced on paper, maybe favoring the mafia a little bit due to the Infiltrator role, but overall it looked good. and then i started assigning roles with a random number generator, and a few people ended up with roles that made me think about re-assigning them... most notably, Joe ending up with the Infiltrator role made me really re-think the role assignments. however, i decided to just let it play in the end (obviously). props to both Brett and Clay, who were both rookies and actually were active most of the game. i think Clay in particular played very well. on the other hand though, i (and apparently some of the other mafia members) got an INSANE amount of PMs on the board from Clay about all these conspiracy theories that could be happening. you'll see the amount of posts he has on the mafia board too, it was ridiculous how in to the game he was. i was very glad to see that enthusiasm, but damn, he was obsessed. what the fuck at people who are usually more active in these games (tom, dave) not hardly posting at all. i was surprised at the goose lynch on the first day, and i was very surprised at the way howes played on day 2. town not only had to deal with inactive people but had some VERY bad luck with the night actions. brett had one good role block on night 2 that prevented the mafia from getting two kills twice in a row, but that was about it. tom scanned clay on night 2, but then got brain washed so couldnt tell anyone about it, and then got lynched, so that was out. jamie kept tracking townies, kmacc got role blocked by tyler in key protection moments, and the masons didnt hardly utilize their board at all. arguably the most powerful role in the game was the Infiltrator. if it had landed in any one else's hands, i'm wondering if the game would've turned out the same way it did. joe was absolutely incredulous when i told him that he just happened to be the one to get that role over everyone else. MVT and Tim were good mason picks, and i think it would've been VERY fun to watch those 3 try and discuss things not knowing that Joe was actually mafia. this is one of the roles where i think that if someone else had it, we might have had an extremely different game. role ideas for this mafia game all came from characters in Zelda: Ocarina of Time. i used each of the six Sages, Princess Zelda and Link, and then 4 out of 5 of the major races were vanillas (I left out Gerudos). Rauru and Ruto as masons and Saria as a role blocker were random choices. Impa is a Sheikah, and they're known as the shadow race, so it made sense to have her as a watcher role. Nabooru, while not a baddie in the game, had been brain washed by baddies, so thats where the miller inspiration came from. and Darunia, Big Boss of the Gorons, seemed a definitely obvious choice for Body Guard. i had some other role ideas (King Zora for TOWN Mayor, e.g.), but in the end i left most of those out. mafia roles were pretty quick choices too. originally i didnt have a role blocker for mafia, but i put one in on a suggestion from robin. other than that, not much to say about the mafia roles. just to make sure i know i said it, i LOVED my brain washer role idea, and had a lot of fun coming up with the different things people could say. i wanted to use more LOLCat sayings, but i didnt wanna beat it into the ground. for anyone that was curious, Matt V was brain washed for Day 4 and i gave him all lines from Fight Club to say. i also wonder how it would've worked had mafia members actually had to role claim. the vanilla roles i picked were all just plain members of the various races in zelda games, but the safe claims i left for the mafia to use were specific people in game. so i dont know how that would've worked, and once again, maybe it could've turned the tide had a vanilla picked up on that. monster post, so i'm sorry for the tl;dr but props once again if you made it all the way thru. like i said, night actions up ASAP. thanks again to everyone that played! it was a good time. :) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Goose on 12/24/09 at 23:38:24 owned I win yet again. Why did mafia win? Well I get voted out first every game (because I am too much of a threat to keep around.) I just happened to be mafia this game so what did I do? I posted for the first day pretty much saying nothing about anyone but myself. The mafia were wise enough not to buy it and alas I planted several red herrings among the townsfolk. As a result this caused an internal war between the townies which ultimately lead to their downfall. Not taking the whole credit, but a well deserved 1/5th of the credit. The other mafia guys were pretty kick ass too. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Pistaker on 12/25/09 at 00:01:30 no because you were (and still are) a cunt. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/25/09 at 00:09:55 Goose, you got voted out the first day via your own incompetence, therefore contributing nothing as a mafia player basically the whole game. Your only accomplishment was failing to prevent the mafia win. Good job to mafia, btw. Wish I could've contributed more, seems I can't last more than a day as townie in these games. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Everyday Normal Guy on 12/25/09 at 00:15:45 http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/605/gayincest.jpg http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1198/1259908173973.jpg http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/166/triplepussy.jpg |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by IsThatAGodThing on 12/25/09 at 00:19:39 Just at a glance the game seems to STRONGLY favor the mafia, not just by a little bit. Three extra 100% night kills? Using them the first three nights, and if no one gets blocked the first three nights with the regular kill, it's already a near-lock for the mafia no matter how well town does. Having two "shut up" roles would easily let the mafia keep one person from EVER talking while letting another say some stupid stuff, meaning people would think the person saying stupid stuff was the one silenced, and vote off the other guy because he hadn't said a word at all. Even if town had lynched a mafia by day two of the first three nights, it'd have been pretty darn tough for them to win. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Everyday Normal Guy on 12/25/09 at 00:33:05 http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/9972/avatarredux.jpg |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Everyday Normal Guy on 12/25/09 at 00:36:21 http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8951/lolwuttwilight.jpg http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7773/1261530634361.jpg http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/7619/1256898824027.jpg |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Timothy on 12/25/09 at 02:23:46 Wow at how bad some players on our team were [smiley=uzi.gif] Edit: What the hell? Joe mafia but gets to cover as a mason? How broken is that? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by ZootManX on 12/25/09 at 02:35:29 Say what you want, but the rape of Howes was beautiful. Mafia was well organised and the town apart from MVT was awful. Success! |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/25/09 at 05:14:04 I thought Clay had lost it bout half way through the the game when he though Joe was a double agent and really aligned with the town. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by DarkMeta on 12/25/09 at 05:36:17 Who was Mafia btw? Joe, ... ? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by The Gaff on 12/25/09 at 06:31:02 What the fuck? Who thinks i played badly? Day 1 - I kept a low profile because i had a power role as scanner. I had my assumptions but i suspected Tim. Night 1 - I scanned Tim to confirm my suspicions or not - he was town. Ok, small mistake. Day 2 - I tell everyone Tims town and play normally. Night 2 - I scan Clay cause he's sus Day 3 - I've been brainwashed. This was the most stupid town play i've ever seen. I was posting like a madman to prove i was active (which i was the whole game) and i even posted in other topics noramlly to prove i wasn't a spastic or drunk. If mafia have brainwashed me then surely i'm a threat and they know it? So why the fuck not assume i'm town? duuuh!! Then Jamie almost comes into his own and works out that i can still post and maybe i'm thinking he could assign one of the three phrases i can say to yes, no, maybe, but no, he stops after asking me about dave. Sigh. Then at the end of day 3/night 4 i'm killed so can't tell anyone my info. To be honest i think i played the perfect game albeit the wrong scan on day 1 - which anyone could've made. Pah. I was active throughout, timely. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/25/09 at 06:41:20 Well I felt a lot of pressure once I had posted that bogus town role as I've never played and I wasnt sure if I should have givein him a name and said shop owner. I took a chance with thinkin there would be more than one vanilla. Yes I was paranoid of Joe and Tyler after one of our kills didnt go through that they were a spy for town. We had a spy for mafia in town, so I thought it would make for an interesting thing to have a spy in our ranks who couldnt make a kill and didnt know the other towns people, but could lead us astray and "claim" to make the kill or make the kill behind my unstoppable kill leading to just one person dying. Glad it was just paranoia. I'll post more later, but I gotta do the Christmas thing. Anyone mind pointing out where I messed up the most, so I can improve my game? Besides the obvious statement of the town role that I know and regret. Mafia I know how I about messed it up for us by wanting to kill one of you. Thanks and merry christmas everyone. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by DarkMeta on 12/25/09 at 06:43:38 Ok, so Joe was mafia, Tim too, who else? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by BrettMK on 12/25/09 at 06:46:56 Wow...good game guys, I was just happy to live to the finish. I roleblocked AHowes on N1 because he was suspicious as hell, he had no reason to play the way he did as a TOWN Vanilla, so I suspected he was mafia. I figured if he was mafia that he wouldn't be the one performing the night kill because he was so suspicious, but I took that chance. N2 I roleblocked Sportsguy, I should have picked up on the fact that only one kill was made this night and gone after him, but I figured if there was 0 kills then I could have done it. N3 I roleblocked Kmacc because he was just being so quiet I was a bit suspicious of him. BIG mistake. Sorry guys that I didn't play a very good game, but I tried my best, we had to deal with Dave Smith, Tom, and AHowes, as well as MVT that was killed on N1 and is a good player. Who was mafia BTW? Goose, Sportsguy, Clay, Joe, ZootmanX? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Howes on 12/25/09 at 07:24:34 LOL. Completely overpowered mafia. Even starting with the numbers (5 mafia to 12 townies) it was a bit high. Town basically had 7 vanillas (since the masons could only talk to each other, and the miller is useless), and the masons were gimped by having a mafia in their midst. So power roles were 5 town, 5 mafia. Mafia had the ridiculous strong man role (3 free night kills?!?!?), as well as two scramblers/silencers, and town had just protector, scan, jack, tracker, and roleblocker. Tracker it a tough role to use if you don't know how to use it, and scanner has to be careful not to reveal themselves. Roleblocker is chance, and jack is actually pretty weak, since you can't be consistent. Tom, you were not really active the first two days, since you made a total of 6 posts. Looking back, Cam had a really nice post on page 6 that had 4 of 5 mafia pegged. [smiley=beer.gif] Town never had a chance. Also, just a side note, but feel free to call me Howes. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/25/09 at 07:27:16 Clay (Magikoopa) - Ganondorf, MAFIA Strong Man (Super Power Role: with extra kill) Goose - Koume, MAFIA Silencer (Power Role: could take someone out of conversation) Joe (Eoj) - Shadow Link, MAFIA Infiltrator (Power Role: Potential sway over MVT and Tim who while they were masons didnt have any power roles) Sean (Zootmanx) - Kotake, MAFIA Brain Washer (Power Role: can scramble someone blocking a potential vote) Tyler (Sportsguy) - Iron Knuckle, MAFIA Role Blocker (Power Role: can block a role) Dave Smith - Link, TOWN Jack of All Trades (Super Power Role: Can do three separate things that are all important) <-------------- (missing in action) Brett - Saria, TOWN Role Blocker (Power Role: Can block a role) Gaff - Princess Zelda, TOWN Scanner (Power Role: Can scan) Jamie (Pistaker) - Impa, TOWN Tracker (Power Role: Can see someones actions) Kmacc - Darunia, TOWN Body Guard (Power Role: Can prevent prevent someones actions) MVT - Ruto, TOWN Mason (Semi Power: Got a board to talk about things, but no powers) Tim - Rauru, TOWN Mason (Semi Power: Got a board to talk about things, but no powers) Cam - Nabooru, TOWN Miller (Anti Power: Shows guilty on a scan) thanks for that info Howes Christophe (El Nino) - Goron, TOWN Vanilla Flo - Zora, TOWN Vanilla Howes - Hylian, TOWN Vanilla Matt V - Kokiri, TOWN Vanilla As far as balance goes, its all there. Dave can do three things, there are five power roles on town and 5 on mafia side. One of mafias powers (Joes) was to be able to spy on two towns who didnt have a special power and didnt know the identities of who did. There's nothing guaranteed in this negotiating abilities and with it being a random draw he could have totally blown that, but he did have potential sway over two votes. My conclusion is that it would have all gone differently if Dave had played. Not only did he not contribute to the discussion, but he had a kick ass role that he could have used to change the game. It was imperative that mafia get rid of all of the scanners so that no one could scan dave and find out he was town. I had no idea he was Link of all roles. I just assumed he was a vanilla who didnt like his role so decided not to participate. I do not understand signing up for this game and then deciding not to play, but maybe he had a family emergency, vacation, or is in the military or something like that where he couldnt have been here. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Howes on 12/25/09 at 07:29:15 Miller is a useless role. Basically a town vanilla that shows up guilty on a scan. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by DarkMeta on 12/25/09 at 07:40:00 Why the fuck did MVT kill me again while I was a towny! It's the second time in 2 games. >:( You should calm down MVT, really... |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Howes on 12/25/09 at 07:41:21 MVT couldn't have killed you, he was a mason. Masons aren't mafia, and are basically vanillas that can talk in the night. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by DarkMeta on 12/25/09 at 07:42:27 Then, who killed me? Koopz, please, could you show every actions that happened during the nights? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/25/09 at 07:42:44 I immediately knew the Gaff was the cop (scanner) on day 2 when he was suspicious of Tim on day 1 but wasn't on day 2 so i role blocked him on night 2. Unfortunately i was role blocked so it didn't work. So i told Sean to brainwash him on night 3. Then we lynched him day 4. I thought i was doomed after my night actions didn't work on night 2, but Brett didn't pick up on me being mafia. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/25/09 at 07:43:20 Furthermore, I thought you did just fine as a town Howes. I'm new of course and do not know everyones strategies or personality, but you did spend plenty of effort thinking about and typing up those long posts. It just made it easier for us to try and frame you day 2. I think where people are getting onto you is the post about how everyone could be mafia. While damn true, it looks like a mafia tactic to me. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Adam L on 12/25/09 at 07:44:09 @Flo - Disregard the fact that it's Christmas or anything Mafia wasn't THAT OP'd to be fair, just change the super unblockable kill to a vanilla mafia and bam, that's pretty good. It was more of a lack of communication/planning on the town's behalf. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Sportsguy001 on 12/25/09 at 07:44:17 I killed Flo on night 1 with the regular kill. Clay unstoppable killed MVT. I attempted to, but failed to kill kmacc with a regular kill on night 2. Clay unstoppable killed Cam. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by DarkMeta on 12/25/09 at 07:45:20 You bastard :P |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/25/09 at 07:45:33 774C534449141C1C14250 wrote:
It was my idea Flo. You seemed smart enough to figure things out and you were influential in getting Goose lynched. That and you said you were gonna trust Mattv who was randomly suspicious of me and I couldnt have that alliance going against me the next day. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by DarkMeta on 12/25/09 at 07:48:57 ;D Nice thoughts Clay. Yeh, as I trusted Matt 99.9%, I would have followed him if he was sure about you being mafia . |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Honko on 12/25/09 at 07:57:08 My silly observer thoughts. Howes didn't play badly. You guys are just always super suspicious of people who make a certain style of logical posts (like Howes and Darius and me). Howes was obviously town and Joe was obviously mafia. Town falling for the ridiculous bait and lynching Tom was hilarious. Clay had me fooled though, good job especially if that was your first time playing. I helped Koopz with the balance so I take some "credit" if it wasn't balanced well, although I think you can't put all the blame on the setup when two of town's biggest power roles don't bother showing up. Masons are always tricky with balance, and the Strongman was a bit overpowered, but if he had been lynched early a decent town could have easily won and then mafia would be the ones complaining about balance. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Adam L on 12/25/09 at 08:20:49 a nice quote from Clay Quote:
Man the game could've been so much funnier if noone answered this |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/25/09 at 08:21:17 I consider that quite a compliment Honko considering you organize these games. Trust me though I was making a lot of error behind the scenes with thinking people in my own mafia were informants and building a case for them in secret with the other members. I do not feel like I belong in politics or a mafia because I'd kill everyone off and never get any sleep at night because I would be analyzing every detail, behavior, and motivation. Then again, maybe I just need some refining is all. Big thanks to the other mafia players who did a beautiful job and everyone who participated in town. I'm disappointed in Dave's role in this because I truly feel he could have turned the game around with participation given he had such a powerful role. K, seriously off for christmas. No one think I'm just being afk as a tactic ;-) -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Kmacc on 12/25/09 at 08:22:42 I protected Cam the first two nights, and neither protections prevented him from speaking gibberish or being nightkilled. Our jack didn't even show up to play, and mafia having three unstoppable night kills = we had no hope. GG everyone. Oh, and I'll admit that I played terrible this game. Partial blame goes to the fact that people weren't trying at all, or were just being really stupid. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/25/09 at 08:25:17 LMAO at Adam L. I said that on the mafia forums right? Yeah I was showing all my newbness on there. Its hard when you dont know the roles and what people can do. I literally seemed too simple and so I made it complicated. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Kmacc on 12/25/09 at 08:27:16 Clay, I just read through a bunch of your stuff on the mafia forums. You were really active man. If only I had you on my team for the last mafia game, we would have dominated. ;D Edit: And I found this quote from tyler: "I think you should use your kill on Kmacc because he is the only one smart enough and experienced enough to cause us to lose this game." *flattered* Too bad I sucked this game though. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/25/09 at 09:16:42 Twas a fun game nonetheless. I'm looking forward to the next one. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by BrettMK on 12/25/09 at 09:23:28 I didn't pick up on Sportsguy because I thought Flo's death at N1 was related to MVT's since Flo was a Zora and MVT was Ruto, but I should have remembered this when Kmacc died on N3 and Christophe didn't. Other then that I think I played decently for my first time. Kmacc, are you mad at me for role blocking you on N3? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by BrettMK on 12/25/09 at 09:27:17 MVT: I meant that I thought if you died at night then Flo would die anyway because you were Ruto and he was a Zora. Now I realize that was a coincidence. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by KoopZ on 12/25/09 at 10:11:22 just a clarification on the brain washer/silencer roles: i added a stipulation that they could not pick the same person two nights in a row. i realized that the players could just pick the same person each time, and that would've been hugely unfair so i made sure they didnt. strong man should've only been two kills instead of 3, and maybe i should've given the Jack an extra kill or something (not that it mattered anyway since dave wasnt here). other than, i still believe it was fairly well balanced. i dont think tim tried to utilize the mason board at all. and i'm surprised MVT just cut out altogether. in one game where i was mafia, i got killed early on but i kept posting to try and help my team. it even says in the rules, play to win, even if you're killed. if/when i host a game again, not sure if i'll include the infiltrator in the capacity that i had him in in this game. maybe just have a mafia that shows up town on scan, but cant try to sway the town in any way. incidentally, the infiltrator-as-mason idea was originally robin's, so you can thank him for that. :) if it's wanted by most of the rest of the people, robin said he'll host a game mid-january ish, and i'll host another one maybe another month or so after that. this was fun and all, but damn i can see why robin likes his breaks between games. [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by KoopZ on 12/25/09 at 11:33:29 yeah i realized that about midway thru the game and hoped to god that tim didnt figure it out too. :P * makes mental notes about next game and christ jeff at that picture. you had to know it was going to get deleted as soon as a mod saw it. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Adam L on 12/25/09 at 11:35:10 pm me that jeff, i accidentally refreshed the page while jerkin' and it was gone |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Timothy on 12/25/09 at 16:05:42 4D76697E732E26262E1F0 wrote:
I was town. Learn to read. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by BrettMK on 12/25/09 at 18:23:11 Wait a second, I just thought of a possible night scenario and I am not sure what would happen in this instance. Lets say that Person B and Person D are both mafia. Person A and Person B can roleblock. Person D tries to kill person C. Person A roleblocks person D. Person B roleblocks person A. Would Person C die assuming no other night actions take place that involve these four people and that Person D didn't use a superkill? |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Goose on 12/25/09 at 19:53:35 08393030083D30395C0 wrote:
Yes, and I left the scent all over Howes, Matt V, Tom and others. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by KoopZ on 12/25/09 at 22:40:18 @ brett - yes, person C would die. i had that scenario on Night 2. you role blocked tyler, and tyler was trying to both role block tom and kill kmacc. generally speaking if someone gets role blocked, that means they cant do anything in the night (thats what robin told me anyway, and i went with that). so in the end, tom was still able to scan clay and kmacc lived. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/26/09 at 09:11:05 Well thanks again Cooper for organizing and running the game and Honko for helping to balance it. I may participate in another one, but I'm not sure if it will be the next one. Was lots of fun. -Clay |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/26/09 at 09:13:56 Bad game played or not, I still think Howes is one of the smartest people on this board. Looking forward to the next game. |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/26/09 at 09:25:55 JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET OUT! =P |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by EnigmaticCam on 12/26/09 at 09:27:01 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by KoopZ on 12/26/09 at 15:10:16 That was the best idea for brain washing I think I couldve had :) |
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Title: Re: Zelda Mafia: GAME OVER, MAFIA TRIUMPHS Post by Magikoopa on 12/26/09 at 16:35:39 Haha I laughed my ass off when I saw that. I'd never seen lolcats. Another good one would have been Special Ed. I'VE GOT MAIL! Do you got mail? or I WANNA GO TO HAWAII YAY YAY! -Clay |
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