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Message started by Honko on 09/18/09 at 09:10:46

Title: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Honko on 09/18/09 at 09:10:46

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Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Honko on 09/18/09 at 09:13:16

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch.  The day will end when a player reached 7 votes, or in 48 hours.


If you haven't done it already, go back to the first post and read the rules.  Some things have changed since last game, and some things need to be re-emphasized.  If you break the rules, you risk getting modkilled, whether you did it intentionally or not, so make sure you know what's allowed.  If you have any questions please ask me.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 09:17:50

Ok... well then let's start.
Pitty we don't have all the names of all the characters used in that game.
But anyway, Honko decides. ^^

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 09:20:41

So, Tom plays again in this game and he has always been a townie... He would be VERY unlucky to be one once again... :/

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Eoj on 09/18/09 at 09:23:55

Crap. Flo's in the game? This is going to get out of hand quickly...

But on a serious note, it's good to be back playin' Mafia again, ain't it?  :D

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 09:25:37

Yeah ^^ It reminds us the old times.  :P
I really enjoyed being a townie last game but I got lynched at the end though everybody knew I was one.  :-/

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/18/09 at 09:27:37

Lol, I'm reading up on the characters on Wikipedia.  For now I'll wait for some Q and A.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 09:29:01

I'M MAFIA AND ONE OF MY BUDDIES IS FLO!

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/18/09 at 09:31:14

Sounds like what I did at the start of the last one.  I was a Townie, but I didn't know what I was doing.  MVT knows full well how to play....suspicious?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Syzygy on 09/18/09 at 09:32:17

Vote:  MVT

Reason:  He told us!

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 09:32:48

Maybe you are right about you MVT, but you are absolutely wrong about me MVT  :-?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 09:33:43

Vote: MVT too

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/18/09 at 09:34:20

Vote: MVT

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 09:36:13

you guys have the right idea but flo is emperor so you should kill him first.  If he somehow ends up not being emperor clear me of all charges as I must be a clueless vanilla

Matt V ya what if I was a mega yoda role like you were last game?  Then I would be using that same tactic?  

blahhhhhargh

i'll check back tonight.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/18/09 at 09:37:41

But you are using the same tactic, therefore you most likely are not some godly role.  Unless you want to lose purposely, which seems unlikely as well.  I stand by my instincts.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Syzygy on 09/18/09 at 09:39:30

Unvote

Vote:  Flo


Reason:  Banwagoning

Be careful Matt  ::)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 09:39:41

The question remains does me telling you I am mafia make it true?  Or am I lying to myself and everyone else?  

It says eoj posted but his post is not showing up on my computer screen.  This game is nearly IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY when all the posts do not appear on the screen to read.  Plus I have to send my post in 5 times for it to post.  Bullshit forum lately.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 09:41:19


Quote:
you guys have the right idea but flo is emperor so you should kill him first.  If he somehow ends up not being emperor clear me of all charges as I must be a clueless vanilla
Emperor?  :-? What is this character? He is not even in Lost is he?
Well, if you say you know that there is a bad character named emperor in this game that obviously means you are mafia. I just don't know who are the good and who are the bad characters in here.
I'll check on Wikipedia who is that emperor guy...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 09:42:19

Flo is LOST.  Get it?  AHHHHHHHHH!

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/18/09 at 09:42:23

Lol Tim you can't vote for me because I wasn't bandwagoning.  I drive this fucking wagon. XD

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by EnigmaticCam on 09/18/09 at 09:46:10

Awww snap, let's get this started.

vote: Flo

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by EnigmaticCam on 09/18/09 at 09:49:40


655D4041466D625E534B57406D77445740320 wrote:
Lol, I'm reading up on the characters on Wikipedia.  For now I'll wait for some Q and A.


I probably should do the same. I don't know anything about this show.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by AHowes on 09/18/09 at 10:03:39

I'm here. No votes yet, although I want to vote Flo just because his name is obnoxiously long. Everyone should try to post to show that they are aware that they are in the game.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/18/09 at 10:13:56

Cam, why did you vote for Flo out of curiosity?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Eoj on 09/18/09 at 10:15:04

MVT- You can't see the post I made earlier?

Howes- Good to see that you know you're in the game. Seems like the last couple of games I've played, at least one person decided to sign up but not play, screwing the game up because of one less active poster, or in my case, one less mafia goon to try to rally with (I was mafia last game).

I don't know what to do about MVT's handicapped account. I'll see what can be done by Alex and let you know, Mike.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Syzygy on 09/18/09 at 10:41:00

Posting here because the handicapped guy is top of the page and his post doesn't show which is seriously annoying.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by EnigmaticCam on 09/18/09 at 10:48:13


01263E2C3A490 wrote:
I'm here. No votes yet, although I want to vote Flo just because his name is obnoxiously long. Everyone should try to post to show that they are aware that they are in the game.


No reason, just randomly picked someone to get them to talk. First day is important to get people talking!

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by EnigmaticCam on 09/18/09 at 10:52:37

Wtf, I quoted the wrong post. That was supposed to be Matt's post.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 12:32:39

Hy guys, I just came back from my swimming train.


172F3233341F102C213925321F05362532400 wrote:
Cam, why did you vote for Flo out of curiosity?

I'd like to know the same thing actually...
I'm not the bad guy here. Not even a bit! I got accused by MVT telling that HE was mafia and that I was one of his buddies which I just don't understand except he wants me to get killed instead of him. But, that wouldn't make any sence because if he succeeds he will get killed asap after I get killed because you will learn that I am a townie. So there's no point doing that  :-?
Furthermore, he said I'm an emperor... I made some researches on Wikipedia and didn't find this name. So there may be an emperor (if he says so) but I just don't who he is and what his role is...

And last thing that I would like to say and that I hope will make you remind is that let's think about it in an other way: Let's suppose we are both mafia. Why would he take the risk to accuse me and him at the same time? Except if he is an idiot, he would never denounce his mafia buddies would he? and imo, he wouldn't even denounce himself neither. (well maybe he would be idiot enough to denounce himself just to leave the game xD) lol.


62686B687668110 wrote:
Unvote

Vote:  Flo


Reason:  Banwagoning

Be careful Matt  ::)

Banwagoning? OO
I get wrong accusations by MVT with no reasons, he reveals his pretended identity as he is a mafia member and you want I do not vote for him? These are more than enough reasons to make me vote for him imo.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Eoj on 09/18/09 at 12:38:41

This game is going nowhere fast.

It's hard to truly read into what Flo is saying, what with the language barrier and all, but it was indeed an interesting move by MVT to quickly announce that he's Mafia along with Flo. Personally, I wouldn't be to sure about MVT being mafia (again) and having him announce it so soon in the game. It's a head-scratcher, but I'm sure that was exactly the point...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/18/09 at 12:43:49

Well, I'm sorry but I tried to be very clear and understandable in that post and I don't really think it's hard to understand (for me).  Sorry.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/18/09 at 12:54:57

Vote Flo

I'll make up a reason later.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 13:03:16

Eoj I see your post now, but I bet there is some other post that is not showing up that I am unaware of.  The only reason I knew I wasn't seeing your post is because it said that you had replied last.  

Cam the board is quoting the wrong messages all the time now.  You didn't mess up, the fucking shit message board did.  

This board seriously needs to be fixed.  I vote we put the game on a temporary hiatus until these problems get fixed.  I was told that there is nearly 0 bandwidth left so that is the reason.  That could be easily fixed with a small payment though.  Since mkwii was added there obviously has been a lot more posts and members so the traffic is higher.  The site needs a SERIOUS upgrade or repair.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by In Hiding on 09/18/09 at 13:59:14

Im town again, vote Darius

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Eoj on 09/18/09 at 14:40:22

I'm surprised to hear that the bandwith is 0 now. There was ample room for other sites not 6 months ago; what happened? I understand the traffic is much higher now, but it can't be astronomical, can it?

I wouldn't be opposed to a small hiatus until some things are cleared up. In fact, I've already left a post in the Mods thread for Alex to fix your temporary handicap status only for the Mafia thread. Hopefully that can be done for you...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 14:55:27

I can live with the handicap but the posts disappearing deal is effecting all board members and it needs to be fixed.  Especially in a game like this where every post matters.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by KoopZ on 09/18/09 at 16:42:16

woo game's started.

vote: Tyler

just cuz i'm always suspicious of him in every mafia game i've played so far.  seems fair to start the same way as in other games.  ::)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by EnigmaticCam on 09/18/09 at 18:05:02

I have noticed some posts disappearing, particularly ones at the top. I wouldn't want to miss an important post.

Though it seems kinda strange that links would be referencing the wrong posts just because there's too much traffic. That's weird.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by AHowes on 09/18/09 at 18:24:20

I don't think the links are disappearing b/c of high traffic, I think it's a side effect of the handicapped posts. They seem to be wreaking havoc with the forum.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/18/09 at 19:12:30

Alright so let's have some more arguements.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by KoopZ on 09/18/09 at 21:23:17

i know its late.... but jeez, its been like 2 hours and no posts?  :o  apparently i'm a loser with nothing better to do on a friday night except play guitar hero and watch the mafia thread.....  i mean.  no, i was out partying it up like i normally do.  ::)

gonna be gone most of the day tomorrow.  be back in like..... .18 hours from now.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Honko on 09/18/09 at 21:43:49

Votals
[3] Flo - Tim, EnigmaticCam, Sportsguy
[2] MVT - (Tim), Flo, Matt
[1] Sportsguy - Koopz

Day ends in 34 hours or when a player reaches 7 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Kmacc on 09/18/09 at 22:58:41

Like others, I should probably read up on some characters to get a feel for what some people are like in case of role claims or such. But I probably won't do that until it happens. It's not important now anyway.

Yeah, obviously I'm aware that I'm in the game and that it has started. Day one always seems to not go well because it's really impossible to go on any suspicions because absolutely nothing has been done yet. Can't really expect much to happen today, although some past games did prove otherwise.

Vote: Tim

I just had to.  :-*

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 23:16:17

I just partied it up too Koopz.  Too bad nothing has been done about Flo yet.   :-[

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/18/09 at 23:17:01

VOTE FLO

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Darius on 09/19/09 at 04:00:22

We really need to get the forum problem sorted. If people can't even quote the right posts it's going to be a nightmare.

I'm all for lynching Tim. He'll just lurk the whole game and we won't be able to get a read on him because he never posts.

Vote: Tim

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Honko on 09/19/09 at 04:14:42

Alex has fixed the forum issues.  Everything should be working normally again as far as quoting and posts showing up in the proper places.

For those of you interested, Shadow has come to the rescue again with a mafia.cgi page.  http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/19/09 at 04:25:12

Very nice Shadow!  :D

And @ Darius. What you just said is pretty suspicious imo.

Quote:
I'm all for lynching Tim. He'll just lurk the whole game and we won't be able to get a read on him because he never posts.

You decide to lynch Tim for no true reasons? You are JUST "All for lynching Tim"
It looks like a mafia guy wants to lynch any towny and decides to start randomly by... Tim.

Unvote
Vote: Darius

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/19/09 at 04:34:41


7D584B504C4A390 wrote:
We really need to get the forum problem sorted. If people can't even quote the right posts it's going to be a nightmare.

I'm all for lynching Tim. He'll just lurk the whole game and we won't be able to get a read on him because he never posts.

Vote: Tim


First off, I would like to vote Kmacc as seems standard mafia play but for once I'll keep my vote off him at this stage.  Darius, I don't believe you were in Johnny Wishbone's game, and I suppose you didn't see it, but I was active as anyone else and went on to win  ;)  Basically, you're using my past activity as a trivial reason which seems passable but you really have nothing else to go on.  Quick lynch for the mafia is what you're after, but it isn't going to work.

Unvote

Vote: Darius


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Darius on 09/19/09 at 04:45:21

I'm a miller. Standard practice to claim early.

Someone's previous play is called their meta, and it's actually pretty common practice to use knowledge of previous games. If I wanted a quicklynch, I'd vote Flo. I wanted to see if anyone would follow me onto Tim. Instead, Tim's followed Flo onto me. Interesting. You got a link to Johnny's game, Tim? I'd like to read it.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/19/09 at 04:49:43

http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1249655206

It was on page 2 of gen con.  And yes I thought you would mention I voted after Flo but they are completely independent of one another; if I had something to hide I wouldn't have done something so obvious.  Thing is, I actually prefer to be a townie, as a mafia I struggle to post where I can convince others of my position.  As a townie, I have nothing to hide and know whatever I say, even if someone things something is suspicious, I can explain as my reasons are always legit.  Also I don't buy into role claiming this early, regardless of how useful or not you are.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Darius on 09/19/09 at 04:59:01

I play on mafiascum.net. It's normal there for millers to claim early. Whether you believe me or not is a different matter, but that's why I did it. I'll take a look at that game and get back to you. I should point out that you're doing exactly what I am by talking about your last game, though.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MKSC european champion SC on 09/19/09 at 04:59:43


Quote:
I wanted to see if anyone would follow me onto Tim

And then? what would have happenned? You really think we are idiot enough to lynch someone just because we want to follow one person? Why would we follow a man who seems mafia to go and kill someone (apparently) innocent for the moment?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Darius on 09/19/09 at 05:11:53

I didn't want people to follow me onto Tim to get Tim lynched. It was to see if anyone tried to jump on his wagon quickly. Take the first game I played here: we found Tim and Fababu out to be mafia because of the way they really quickly followed Tom and myself onto voting for Honko.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Honko on 09/19/09 at 06:11:19

Votals
[3] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, Sportsguy, MVT
[2] Tim - Kmacc, Darius
[2] Darius - Flo, Tim
[1] MVT - (Tim), (Flo), Matt
[1] Sportsguy - Koopz

Day ends in 26 hours or when a player reaches 7 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 08:34:19

I really fail to see why you are all voting for Flo, but I suspect there are no good reasons behind it.

I must kind of agree about how Tim just lurks the whole game.

unvote

Vote: Tim

You better start posting more.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 08:36:21

Hmmm, George also has yet to post.  I hope he gets in here, I'm interested in his thoughts.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/19/09 at 08:50:01

unvote

vote matt v


I am interested in your thoughts.  So far all you have done is continuously throw out strange blind accusations and bandwagon.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 08:56:58

My accusations have been neither strange nor blind, and I'm not bandwagoning, considering every single move I have made is original.  You're just pissy because I voted for you at first.

I'm a townie.  After my shit performance last game, I highly doubt Robin will ever let me be mafia lol.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 09:02:53

Also, you're only trying to point figners at me because I called out the little "Vote for Flo" campaign you started.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by AHowes on 09/19/09 at 09:12:47

George was online earlier today, maybe he just doesn't know that he is in the game.

On a separate note, what would a false miller claim gain for Darius? The main way that i could see it helping him is if he was a role that actually gave a guilty investigation result. The only roles that I can think of that would give a guilty result are miller, mafia, or some third-party role such as a serial killer. However, the fact that there are multiple roles makes it basically useless for a cop to scan him, unless the scan came up innocent for some reason. This would just make Darius seem unreliable. Roles that give an innocent scan would be town or godfather.

All I can get out of this is that lying about being a miller is basically suicide or protecting someone, which makes no sense at this point in the game.

There are also two things that I can think of that are bugging me. First, in one of earlier mafia games here (Girl mafia?), there was a miller also. However, I don't think that this person knew that they were a miller until they were killed. The other is that you aren't saying who you are, which could help the town to better know if you are telling the truth. I know that some people don't watch a lot of Lost, so if you didn't know who would be a reasonable miller claim, you would be stuck.

Am I making sense here? I know sometimes I try to analyze things, and I end up going on the wrong track completely. There's not much to go on, so I may be overly suspicious right now. The miller claim just confuses me utterly.

On a separate note, why is Flo's board name now Peter???

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/19/09 at 09:14:32


49716C6D6A414E727F677B6C415B687B6C1E0 wrote:
I really fail to see why you are all voting for Flo, but I suspect there are no good reasons behind it.

I must kind of agree about how Tim just lurks the whole game.

unvote

Vote: Tim

You better start posting more.


What the fuck is this?  Look at the player list and read the topic before questioning my activity.  Probably another mafia player looking for a bullshit accusation.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Kmacc on 09/19/09 at 09:42:17

unvote

Tim knows my vote was a joke, and I don't want a bandwagon to continue with me leading it if I wasn't making a real vote. I'll give Tim the chance to be more active and such (he says he was in the last mafia but I never read through it, I'll take his word for it though). I just don't want anything to get out of hand too soon. I don't care what anyone says, in my opinion, the latest mafia games that we lynched a mafia on the first day were much more luck-based than skill-based. I don't wanna rule out getting a lucky mafia kill again, but sometimes you have to think logically rather than just hope.

People have to start talking so we can get even the smallest thing out of them, and their acknowledgment of being in the game. Otherwise those people are going to get my vote, because we need active players who are going to help get stuff out of people. Sitting there and going under the radar isn't going to help us if you're town, and will only help us get closer to winning if you're mafia and we take you out.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 09:46:54

Lol @ Tim saying it's a bullshit accusation.  KMacc said "I'll give Tim the chance to be more active and such," so it's not bullshit.  Don't feel like I'm trying to single you out, there are plenty of people who have yet to provide adequate proof of their town-ness.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 09:48:10

My vote for you stands Tim, until you post a few times, which isn't unreasonable.  There are others besides you who I wanna hear from, I'm just making you go first. ;)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/19/09 at 10:00:13


4B736E6F68434C707D65796E43596A796E1C0 wrote:
My accusations have been neither strange nor blind, and I'm not bandwagoning, considering every single move I have made is original.  You're just pissy because I voted for you at first.

I'm a townie.  After my shit performance last game, I highly doubt Robin will ever let me be mafia lol.


Original?????!!!!

woah woah my friend let's take a look back here.


You were the 3rd person to place a vote on me, after Tim and Flo.  = Bandwagoner

You were the 3rd person to place a vote on Tim, after kmacc and Darius. = Bandwagoner


If you did it one time I could see how that might just be a coincidence.  But you clearly jumped off the bandwagon against me and onto the bandwagon against Tim, simply because everyone else was doing it.  You want to quickly vote off a town.  The "Honko wouldn't make me mafia because I suck at town" argument entirely fails seeing as roles are randomly assigned.  You are mafia.  Guys I think we have found our first mafia player.  Based on the evidence in this post of his BLATANT bandwagoning alone.  If nothing else transpires during this day 1, I think this would be our best move to lynch off.  Day 1 never provides much but Matt V kind of screwed himself up.  If something major happens or is revealed I might change my vote.  Otherwise Matt V is obvious scum.


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 10:07:15

I wasn't the first to vote, but I was the first to vote for a legitimate reason.  I think it's pretty obvious Flo's vote for you was a revenge vote, as you voted for him right out of the gate.  And I trust Tim's judgement, and that, in conunction with my own reasons caused my vote for you.

The fact that you have twice now done everything possible to get yourself off of the microscope is pretty stupid.  If I were mafia, the last thing I would do is post a bunch, and be constantly changing my votes.  As the day has gone on people have posted and made me rethink who I should vote for.  I watched your performance last game and you played it very convincingly, so you can't blame me for being wary of you.  And as stated before, my vote for Tim was merely to get him talking a bit, I actually don't think he is mafia.

So, my "blatant bandwagoning" as you so quaintly put it, is absolutely retarded.  If you really must know, I'm Juliet Burke, TOWN.  Whoever the fuck that is.

On a totally different note, who actually watches this fucking gay show? XD

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 10:09:56

P.S.  My bad for saying you havn't done anything Tim, your post never showed up for me before, and I didn't look back a page before posting.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/19/09 at 10:10:03

I definitely do not remember voting for flo right out of the gate.  Can you show me where?   :-?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 10:12:23


15242D2D15202D24410 wrote:
I'M MAFIA AND ONE OF MY BUDDIES IS FLO!


You didn't vote for him, but you instantly decided to be a dick and throw his name out there.  It would be stupid if you are mafia, so that compels me to trust you, but still, nobody has voted for Flo with a truly legitimate reason.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 10:14:23

unvote

I trust Tim.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/19/09 at 10:57:34

Trust no one  [smiley=ninja.gif]  No but seriously, if you have legitimate reasoning then fairplay, but putting unnecessary emphasis on previous games makes it look like an excuse to vote, especially when more than one person does it (i.e. blending in).  How about we concentrate and this game, and see that I have been playing, explaining, defending etc.  Maybe some people didn't realise I am "SYZYGY" and have changed my name because I'm a champion like many others on this board.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 11:12:18

I know who you are.  I stalk you.  :-*

But anyways, I'll wait for others to make accusations because appparently when I do it I must be in the mafia, which I'm not. >.>

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by KoopZ on 09/19/09 at 16:11:01

only third page, and there's actually good discussion going on?  :o

instincts tell me that flo and MVT both are town.  i know MVT's posting style well enough by now to be able to tell (for the most part) if he's joking or not, and that post you quoted, matt, where he called out flo as a mafia buddy absolutely reeked of sarcasm.  also, (no offense flo) i think flo would've fucked up by now if he were mafia.... but then again, i'm going off the girl mafia game he was in, and calling out similar activities to previous games seems to be taboo all of a sudden.

basically, i'm not saying i fully trust either of them, but i doubt either of them are mafia either.

another thought.... my vote on tyler beforehand was entirely in jest when i made it.  tyler hasnt made a single post since then.  whats the deal?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 16:13:16

Has he been online since then though?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 16:18:19

Coop, I know it was sarcastic, making him look innocent, but he threw out Flo's name too, which could easily have been to ignite heated discussion not involving him.

Tyler was on an hour ago, he should have posted by now...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 16:21:28

Jesus fuck, looking back through every post, I missed quite a few of them on the first couple pages.  Glad everything is fixed now.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/19/09 at 16:31:39

I've been lurking, just haven't posted.  The first day is always a crapshoot and no one knows anything.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/19/09 at 16:49:01

True enough.  It looks like Flo will probably get the lynch.  I still think he is town though.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by AHowes on 09/19/09 at 17:16:06

So the day ends tomorrow in about 15 hours. As it stands, the day would continue, as Flo and Darius are tied at 2 votes apiece. In the rules, it says that the day would continue with the votes only counting for the two of them. We need to decide whether we want to lynch one of those two, whether we want to lynch someone else, or if we want to no lynch. Don't shoot me for bringing the last one up, but we have little to go on right now. I'm fine with anything right now, but I'll wait until tomorrow to decide.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Kmacc on 09/19/09 at 17:30:21

Although that's true Tyler, that doesn't mean you should just lurk around and not help out. I know most accusations on day one are stupid and have no evidence to back themselves up. However, this stuff can help out in the future of the game, seeing vote patterns and all of that good stuff. If we did absolutely nothing on day one, all we would have for day two is the night actions.

vote: Tyler

Talk up.

Anyway from what I see, it's been mostly a bit of a back and forth argument led by MVT, Matt V and Tim. It may not be the most productive argument, but it is getting information out of people and leads to a possible mafia slip-up. This is the kind of stuff we need to keep going in order to help us out, even if it's not immediate.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Honko on 09/19/09 at 17:56:19

Votals
[2] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, Sportsguy, (MVT)
[2] Darius - Flo, Tim
[2] Sportsguy - Koopz, Kmacc
[1] Tim - (Kmacc), Darius, (Matt V)
[1] Matt V - MVT
[0] MVT - (Tim), (Flo), (Matt V)

Day ends in 14 hours or when a player reaches 7 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by KoopZ on 09/19/09 at 21:34:05

and again with the 4 hour gap of no posting?  hweird.....  i think i'll go have some pie with some cool hwip.

my suspicion with tyler still stands, btw... and so does my vote.  an admitted lurker, even on day one, just doesnt sound right.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Peter on 09/19/09 at 23:33:42


7A425F5E59727D414C54485F72685B485F2D0 wrote:
True enough.  It looks like Flo will probably get the lynch.  I still think he is town though.

I am town. And, I hope I won't get lynch...  :-/

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Peter on 09/19/09 at 23:35:47

Btw, I'm still very suspicious about Darius so I'll keep my vote on him for the moment...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/19/09 at 23:50:41

Hi Peter, why can't we control you?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/19/09 at 23:53:05

Peter can you give us a list of who is mafia and who is not?  It might really help us and yourself later in the game so that we know you are truthful.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Peter on 09/20/09 at 00:19:17

Pffffffff I wouldn't have ever thought you were so idiot as that.
Could you please explain me how I can know who is mafia or not when I'm town?
Because, here, it's only written the name of the character I represent and what he is supposed to do.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by In Hiding on 09/20/09 at 01:00:12

vote Darius

seems sus to me, but i'm hungover so may not be making the right judgements.

Btw, i'm Town.. AGAIN! ffs

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Borgeman on 09/20/09 at 01:32:01

hi, late entry for me, i spent most of the weekend enjoying the company of my girlfriend  ::)

darius mentioned how his miller role is generally claimed early in his playing on mafiascum. i just have a feeling that it may just be a simple blend operation, and i wouldnt be too quick to accept that reason. if a cop checks him and he comes up bad, that also doesnt mean we can accept his claim, as as a seasoned player he could simply be using the miller claim to mask himself

i also have a bit of an eye on cooper, more for the fact that he has a very smooth style of posting whether he is town or mafia, and so to me to trust him he would need to be on the money

tyler is right about the first day being a crapshoot, but the same time i dont like the idea that not posting on day one for that reason is fine. i know the past couple of games he played with low post counts and he was town, but i always prefer hearty conversation over the lurker  [smiley=lurk.gif]


George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Borgeman on 09/20/09 at 01:38:15

tom, regardless of your alcohol affected state of mind, do you have anything else to input? you do like revealing you are town straight up, but your two posts:


Quote:
Im town again, vote Darius


and


Quote:
vote Darius

seems sus to me, but i'm hungover so may not be making the right judgements.

Btw, i'm Town.. AGAIN! ffs  


both say the same thing twice.

could you tell me why you needed to repeat the fact you are town again, even though no one questioned your claim first time you posted?

as with darius, please explain your reasons behing him being suss to you?  i know i said i was suspicious of him, but i could be wrong

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Honko on 09/20/09 at 01:45:17

Votals
[3] Darius - Flo, Tim, In Hiding
[2] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, Sportsguy, (MVT)
[2] Sportsguy - Koopz, Kmacc
[1] Tim - (Kmacc), Darius, (Matt V)
[1] Matt V - MVT
[0] MVT - (Tim), (Flo), (Matt V)

Day ends in 6 hours and 15 minutes (exactly on the hour) or when a player reaches 7 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Darius on 09/20/09 at 03:36:33

Howes: I'm Sawyer.

I'm surprised my strategy actually worked after I explained it, but Matt V's vote on Tim is terrible. He obviously can't have even been reading the game properly because that vote looks like he hasn't read the exchange between Tim and I at all and it just looks like he's trying to push an easy lurker lynch. Tom's lack of contribution and tunnelling on me is also majorly suspect, as is Tyler's lurk-fest. For bandwagoning onto Tim and clearly not reading the game, I'm going to:

Unvote; Vote: Matt V

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by AHowes on 09/20/09 at 05:44:18

Massively confused (instant edit: maybe conflicted is a better word) here...

Darius, that roleclaim makes complete sense now. Problem is, right now you are on track to be lynched. The only thing I can do to change that right now is to vote for someone else to get them up to 3 votes, and even that won't definitely help unless other people switch their vote.

Since there seems to be no person that deserves a vote more,

Vote: Matt V, for being suspicious, and being a hindrance to the game.
This puts it at a 3-3 split, and would prolong the day if there weren't any more votes. Three people currently aren't voting (George, Matt V, Joe) so everything is fluid right now. I'll be around for the next two hours if needed.
I'm still confused why Flo's board name is peter...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Honko on 09/20/09 at 06:18:13

Votals
[3] Darius - Flo, Tim, In Hiding
[3] Matt V - MVT, Darius, Howes
[2] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, Sportsguy, (MVT)
[2] Sportsguy - Koopz, Kmacc
[0] Tim - (Kmacc), (Darius), (Matt V)
[0] MVT - (Tim), (Flo), (Matt V)

Day ends in 1 hour and 45 minutes (exactly on the hour) or when a player reaches 7 votes.  In case of a tie (for anyone who missed it in the rules) the day will continue until the tie is broken, with only unvotes and votes on the tied players being counted.

I'm sick and going to bed now and won't be back until tomorrow, but the day still ends at the normal time.  Once the deadline is reached and after any ties have been broken, the day is over and everyone should stop posting until a mod can close the topic.  Night's 23 hours will start when I post the results of the lynch.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/20/09 at 07:49:21

Does the day continue until one player gets 7 votes or just until the tie is broken by someone voting or unvoting once?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by MVT on 09/20/09 at 07:51:19

If it only takes one vote to break the tie, Matt V will just come online and vote for darius...

someone knock out matt please.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/20/09 at 08:23:42

Unvote
Vote Darius


I'll take the blame if i'm wrong.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Borgeman on 09/20/09 at 08:32:08

thats the day end, so locky time someone....

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Darius on 09/20/09 at 09:17:36

Idiots. You know what to do.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/20/09 at 10:20:51

Vote: Darius

The board time is differnet from mine, so I doubt this is in on time, but it really doesn't change anything.

As I said before though, I'm Doctor Juliet.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 1 - Guys, where are we?
Post by Matt V on 09/20/09 at 10:22:22

Oops, alright, now I know board time is 4 hours behind me.  Forget my vote.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Night 1
Post by Honko on 09/21/09 at 04:18:02

Darius has been lynched.  He was James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller.

You have 23 hours to send in your night actions by PM.  If you have a night action but are choosing not to use it, please send in "No action."


Final Day 1Votals
[4] Darius - Flo, Tim, In Hiding, Sportsguy
[3] Matt V - MVT, Darius, Howes
[2] Sportsguy - Koopz, Kmacc
[1] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, (Sportsguy), (MVT)
[0] Tim - (Kmacc), (Darius), (Matt V)
[0] MVT - (Tim), (Flo), (Matt V)


The Living
1. Borgeman (George)
3. EnigmaticCam
4. Flo
5. Howes
6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
9. Koopz
10. Matt V
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Honko on 09/22/09 at 04:23:36

Matt V has died.  He was Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor.

The Living
1. Borgeman (George)
3. EnigmaticCam
4. Flo
5. Howes
6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
9. Koopz
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.  Day ends in 48 hours, or when a player reaches 6 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/22/09 at 04:33:56

This isn't good.

People need to start posting so I can figure out who the fuck is who.

Admittedly Darius for me was a bit of a stab in the dark, hadn't said much early on and it was weekend where I dont post much.

Will be more careful today.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 05:26:36

shiiiiit....

right, i need to have a look at the votes, and try and figure out a pattern, because today's lynch is going to be extra important

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/22/09 at 05:35:11

Vote Enigmatic cam,

I may as well own up, I scanned him last night.

Whoever is the protector, for gods sake protect me! :D

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by AHowes on 09/22/09 at 05:40:38

Tom, looks like Matt V was a protector, so we might not have one left. Just based on the number of people, this game probably has 3-4 mafia, leaving 8-9 town. Town power roles probably include a jack-of-all-trades, doctor, vigilante, cop, the miller (Darius) and 2-3 vanillas/random roles.

Anyone else feel that there might be more millers in this game, based on the two that we've had already?


Class is starting, away for a while

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 05:49:49

im sure there is  [smiley=happy.gif] 4 mafia, as there was 13 players to begin with, 4 of 13 is just under a third of the field, honko likes this ratio  ::)

and tom, you could have at least tried to persuade us through the day to go for cam (and releaved yourself only if that failed), so you may have been able to hang around....

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/22/09 at 05:55:16

I would prefer to use the day focussing on someone else in case there isn't another protector and I get killed.

This way, we get a guaranteed kill and put the pressure on mafia person number 2. I'll take my chances on being killed, for some strange reason I dont usually die this early.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 05:56:03

actually howes, now i think about it, to have two millers, especially the doctor as one, makes me think there may only be 2-3 legit mafia in the game, with the millers there to 'fatten' the count. 2 townies were millers, + say 2 mafia = 4 guilty people on the cop scan, so its possible. i think that there couldn't be any more than one more miller if at all tho...


George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 05:58:38

ok well then thats not a bad idea, so long as we hit gold today

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by KoopZ on 09/22/09 at 06:15:07

forgive my own laziness in looking this up, but what does the miller do?  i'd never heard of the role until this game.  is it a power role?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/22/09 at 06:34:46

So Tom you scanned cam and he appeared mafia?  What exactly did he show up as?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/22/09 at 06:43:19

lol, MVT, thats the most suspicious post i've seen so far in this thread.

You really should cover up your feelings better with your language.

MVT is probably mafia.


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/22/09 at 06:44:22

or maybe i'm being a little hasty, it didn't have his name, just what he did. He made a kill, which means he's mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 06:47:26

Final Day 1Votals
[4] Darius - Flo, Tim, In Hiding, Sportsguy
[3] Matt V - MVT, Darius, Howes

[2] Sportsguy - Koopz, Kmacc
[1] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, (Sportsguy), (MVT)
[0] Tim - (Kmacc), (Darius), (Matt V)
[0] MVT - (Tim), (Flo), (Matt V)



so in theory the mafia are in amongst these bolded names - ill take out darius (dead) and tom (cop claim)
of the rest, i think flo, tim and sportsguy are mafia (along with enigmaticcam from toms claim)

why? here are my thoughts...

have a look at the voting patterns. after mvt made his mafia claim (lol), tim voted mvt and flo followed. tim switched to flo after matt jumped on, claiming to halt the wagon. the next two to vote for flo are cam and sportsguy.... sure, mafia mass voting for a mafia, one probably wouldnt expect that, and its flo so nobody would really oppose it right?

but once mvt votes flo, suddenly flo has most votes, and then darius (town) votes for tim (lurking as reason), so operation kill town starts. flo responds by voting darius, and tim votes the very following post - (btw darius picked up on it too)

towards the end of the day it is a tie - tyler (sportsguy) breaks it by going darius saying he will take the blame, suggesting he maybe did a coin flip in his head to choose who to vote... i think otherwise

i think cam would have also voted darius, but he was only active early in the day, he possible wasnt online late day 1 so his vote stayed on flo

look here

[1] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, (Sportsguy), (MVT)
[4] Darius - Flo, Tim, In Hiding, Sportsguy

mafia stacked onto flo, then they all jump onto darius (bar cam)

so thats what i think

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 06:48:23


2428283734332235470 wrote:
forgive my own laziness in looking this up, but what does the miller do?  i'd never heard of the role until this game.  is it a power role?


coops, a miller is a townie that comes up guilty when scanned...

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 07:03:50

to back up my thoughts, look at all their posts:



2E2427243A245D0 wrote:
Vote:  MVT

Reason:  He told us!



556E71666B363E3E36070 wrote:
Vote: MVT too



0617223521222433042E35242B22470 wrote:
Awww snap, let's get this started.

vote: Flo



6574415642414750674D56474841240 wrote:
[quote author=01263E2C3A490 link=1253293852/0#22 date=1253297019]I'm here. No votes yet, although I want to vote Flo just because his name is obnoxiously long. Everyone should try to post to show that they are aware that they are in the game.

No reason, just randomly picked someone to get them to talk. First day is important to get people talking![/quote]


5F647B6C613C34343C0D0 wrote:
Very nice Shadow!  :D

And @ Darius. What you just said is pretty suspicious imo.

Quote:
I'm all for lynching Tim. He'll just lurk the whole game and we won't be able to get a read on him because he never posts.

You decide to lynch Tim for no true reasons? You are JUST "All for lynching Tim"
It looks like a mafia guy wants to lynch any towny and decides to start randomly by... Tim.

Unvote
Vote: Darius




6D67646779671E0 wrote:
[quote author=7D584B504C4A390 link=1253293852/25#45 date=1253361622]We really need to get the forum problem sorted. If people can't even quote the right posts it's going to be a nightmare.

I'm all for lynching Tim. He'll just lurk the whole game and we won't be able to get a read on him because he never posts.

Vote: Tim


First off, I would like to vote Kmacc as seems standard mafia play but for once I'll keep my vote off him at this stage.  Darius, I don't believe you were in Johnny Wishbone's game, and I suppose you didn't see it, but I was active as anyone else and went on to win  ;)  Basically, you're using my past activity as a trivial reason which seems passable but you really have nothing else to go on.  Quick lynch for the mafia is what you're after, but it isn't going to work.

Unvote

Vote: Darius

[/quote]


02213E232522362428616160510 wrote:
Vote Flo

I'll make up a reason later.


do any of these have real reasoning behind the votes? not really, best would be flo's on darius, but it is to counter the vote on tim...


George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 07:07:54

i may be wrong, but we have to start somewhere right?

(shit 4 posts in a row, but cant edit so bad luck folks)


George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/22/09 at 07:17:22

trust me, flo is an easy lynch to think of but he's safe.

i.e i'm fairly sure he's not mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by AHowes on 09/22/09 at 07:22:49


372B2C2E2230243B72430 wrote:
or maybe i'm being a little hasty, it didn't have his name, just what he did. He made a kill, which means he's mafia.


I'm sorry Tom, but this sounds a bit weak. There are several town roles that could make kills in this game also. Just off the top of my head, there is the jack-of-all-trades, vigilante, maybe some twisted role we've never seen before. What exactly did you get as a result for your scan? For all we know, there could have been several attempted kills last night, and there could have been several people that were protected from those kills. I'm just taking everything with a grain of salt at this point.

@ George- That looks good. I never see too much of a reason to look for vote patterns on the first day, but then again, I never seem to do well in these games... most of the first day (at least to me) is just going against people on principle, and without evidence, in order to get rid of people you don't like.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on anything, it's been happening to me more and more lately.  :-/

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/22/09 at 07:42:22

Maybe Tom is not cop and he just had some one time scan.  But then again if Tom is mafia it would be PERFECT for him to claim to have scanned cam.  

Scenario

Tom is mafia.
Cam is town.

Tom claims that he is cop and scanned cam as.  Cam is actually town because tom is lying.  The real town cop really shouldnt be stupid enough to reveal his role this early.  Tom is desperately trying to get us to lynch one more town and then the mafia get a night kill.  This would kill town badly.  This next lynch is crucial and I do not want to vote off cam right now.  This would be the perfect time of game for Tom to "claim cop" and get another easy town lynched off.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/22/09 at 07:50:40

has anyone else claimed my role?

All of your arguements.. epic fail.

anyway, MVT, you just added to your sus level.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/22/09 at 07:58:24

Vote Koopz


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/22/09 at 08:00:35

Tom is generally honest about claims and it would be somewhat stupid IMO to claim that early if he didn't have a good enough reason.  

Let's say Cam is lynched.  Either:
- Tom gets lynched at night assuming we have no one to protect him
- Mafia lynch someone random to avoid getting role blocked and to make it look like Tom is mafia.  Then unless someone is protector and claims to have protected Tom he becomes a sitting duck.  Either way, bad play IMO Tom, you could have been sitting high and dry and helped convince to vote of Cam (if you are in fact town).  :(

My vote on the Darius lynch was simply annoyance at his lame reasoning for voting for me.  Also I had never heard of a miller before so that threw me.

Vote:  Borgeman

This is just a pressure vote (don't necessarily think you're mafia), sure 4 posts in a row looks like a lot, but nothing there convinced me.  We know Flo has a slight (lol) language barrier so it's difficult to decide his status but he isn't really a threat.  Sportsguy seems sus to me, Koopz and Kmacc seem innocent.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Matt V on 09/22/09 at 08:07:14

Lynch MVT fuckers.

*dies*

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/22/09 at 08:56:51


7A6661636F7D69763F0E0 wrote:
has anyone else claimed my role?

All of your arguements.. epic fail.

anyway, MVT, you just added to your sus level.


your suspicions mean nothing to me.  You were dead wrong about Darius so your credibility is kind of shit right now.  Go ahead and put a vote on me, you know I am town.  It will only further ruin your reputation.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/22/09 at 09:07:24


594542404C5E4A551C2D0 wrote:
trust me, flo is an easy lynch to think of but he's safe.

i.e i'm fairly sure he's not mafia.

Thanks for trusting me Tom  :) I'm glad to learn you are town too because I quite suspected you and MattV for being mafia.  :-/
But it seems I was all wrong.
Btw,

Quote:
Lynch MVT fuckers.

*dies*

Was that a post we should trust/keep in mind?  :-?
That would pretty clever of him to accuse me of being mafia with him and then pass for a total trustful towny imo...
I won't vote for the moment. I'll try to have enough clues/proofs before.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/22/09 at 09:09:55


Quote:
your suspicions mean nothing to me.  You were dead wrong about Darius so your credibility is kind of shit right now.  Go ahead and put a vote on me, you know I am town.  It will only further ruin your reputation.

Nobody new anything about Darius. This doesn't proove anything about who is Towny and who is mafia but it seems Tom saw Cam killing someone so this is a great proof to start. Let's let him explain himself first...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/22/09 at 09:16:37

Sorry for triple post but I also noticed something about MVT. He voted for 2 people on day 1: Matt and me and we are both townies. So that makes him a bit suspicious too...  :P

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Kmacc on 09/22/09 at 10:00:17

I'm not exactly at the best computer to quote posts and stuff, but I wanted to just put something out there quick.

Between the votes on Matt V and Darius, I would think that the mafia would stick more to one of them than separate their votes on both, because they probably would have a preference to who they wanted dead. So I would think that one of those group has a couple of mafia players, and the other group would just be townies.

Of course both dead players were townies so for the mafia any town player is really fine, but I just would think they'd go more for one than the other. I feel like the vote count is a group of mafia on one and a group of townies on the other. The group who voted for Darius would be more suspicious at the moment because they were the ones who made the lynch happen, although that doesn't leave voters for Matt V off the hook either.

That isn't to say there may not be a townie within the group that the mafia is in, but one of those groups has to have mafia lurking in it.  [smiley=ninja.gif]

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/22/09 at 10:04:21

Maybe some unvoters are mafia too. They just only want to appear innocent for the moment...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by KoopZ on 09/22/09 at 11:09:09


6F4C534E484F5B49450C0C0D3C0 wrote:
Vote Koopz


reason?  i stated why i voted for you initially, and then again when my reasons changed.  i'm still suspicious of you cuz of your lurkiness.... why not talk more?

and also.... why were both Matt and Darius Town Millers?  yeah, matt had doctor tacked on to his as well.... but does everyone show up suspicious if they're all millers?

i'm not sure what to think right now.... gotta keep reading.  no one's made any glaringly obvious mistake in my opinion yet.  lurkers need to talk more (as stated ^ there) or we'll never get anything done.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/22/09 at 12:29:18

Suspects list:
- MVT
- Cam (99% sure he's mafia)
- Sportsguy
That's all for me for the moment.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Eoj on 09/22/09 at 12:59:03

I find it odd that someone voted for George even though he probably spent the most time breaking down the first day's action. I guess that's what you get for speaking out...

As far as I'm concerned, Tyler is really asking for it just by shooting in a vote with no explanation. It's an interesting move on his part, because he's done this before when he was both mafia and a townie.

I don't want to go out on any limbs just yet, but if anyone is to be suspected, to me it's Tyler. I'll go with Tom for now and believe that he scanned Cam, but I'm not dead-set and that just yet...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 16:11:19

yes joe, i think its also odd too....


7C76757668760F0 wrote:
Vote:  Borgeman

This is just a pressure vote (don't necessarily think you're mafia), sure 4 posts in a row looks like a lot, but nothing there convinced me.  


Pressure? what pressure? i dont feel any pressure....i took a real hard look at the first day to try and seperate something from all the bullshit, and you want to "pressure" me for it, when your name conveniently is in my pile of names... riiight



7C76757668760F0 wrote:
My vote on the Darius lynch was simply annoyance at his lame reasoning for voting for me.  Also I had never heard of a miller before so that threw me.
...
We know Flo has a slight (lol) language barrier so it's difficult to decide his status but he isn't really a threat.  Sportsguy seems sus to me, Koopz and Kmacc seem innocent.


so in all the above, you gave a piss weak excuse for voting darius (mafiascum.net has all the answers on roles mate, darius had it in his post), then you spit out 4 names saying either good or bad, with no reason.... interesting

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 16:18:48


7C7A767474170 wrote:
I'm not exactly at the best computer to quote posts and stuff, but I wanted to just put something out there quick.
(snip)
That isn't to say there may not be a townie within the group that the mafia is in, but one of those groups has to have mafia lurking in it.  [smiley=ninja.gif]


kmacc, have a look at my post last page, does it fit your thoughts?


4A716E797429212129180 wrote:
Sorry for triple post but I also noticed something about MVT. He voted for 2 people on day 1: Matt and me and we are both townies. So that makes him a bit suspicious too...  :P


well mat was town, i dont see a sign or death notice saying you are town...


6C57485F520F07070F3E0 wrote:
Suspects list:
- MVT
- Cam (99% sure he's mafia)
- Sportsguy
That's all for me for the moment.


reasons? without reasons, your suspicions mean nothing. so far three people who i think are mafia have slipped up in my eyes - two of them posted with who they think are sus/ innocent, and one made a post with nothing but a vote for cooper....

guys, if you really are town, you are going to have to do better than that

George

(btw, regardless of language barrier, flo knows how to play this game, remember that before you dismiss him as safe...)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/22/09 at 16:50:42

Tyler does seem very suspicious to me right now.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Kmacc on 09/22/09 at 16:59:16

Yeah I've seen it, those vote patterns can be important. It's good that you noticed that, especially since it's nearly the full group among those who voted out Darius. Everyone you highlighted there is suspicious in some way in my opinion..

Tim: I agree with George that it's weird that people throw out names of people they find innocent for no reason. Also giving no reasoning for your suspicions is never good. Not sure if anyone asked at least, but why do you have those suspicions Tim? I know Tim had some wrongful votes go towards him on day one, but just because he had good and justified reasons to get him out of that mess doesn't automatically make him town.

Flo: About Flo, anyone with sense knows that whenever we lynched Flo and he was mafia, it was more luck. He never really "slipped up" and such, it's just he has that slight language barrier and people got lucky for voting him and him being mafia. Like George said, he does know how to play the game, don't let it fool you. However with Flo, two of suspects on his list are others that are suspicious, so maybe he isn't in that group. Flo, can you explain your suspicions for MVT, Cam and Sportsguy?

Sportsguy: he does this every game, mafia or not. It really is a good game plan for him if he's mafia cause he's always the same, but he's not helping if he's a townie. He makes very unjustified votes that make no sense, and posts virtually nothing. He made the final vote on Darius which doesn't make him look better, although I'm not sure a mafia would put himself on the line like that, or would he (reverse psychology)?

Cam: Besides the post or two George quoted, the only other thing suspicious about Cam is that Tom "scanned" him and he came up as mafia or made the kill or whatever. Whether this is true or not, only Tom knows. Not much else I have to say about Cam at the moment.

vote: Sportsguy

I did the same yesterday because he looks suspicious, and he still does. Tyler, if you're town, please help out a bit more. Post some kind of analysis, even if it's only a few sentences. And please don't post saying you can't do anything else to prove you're not mafia, that isn't going to help...

My vote will stay here for a while probably, but I will still re-analyze everything and see what else happens throughout the day to see if there's a more suspicious person to vote for.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 17:08:54


Quote:
However with Flo, two of suspects on his list are others that are suspicious, so maybe he isn't in that group. Flo, can you explain your suspicions for MVT, Cam and Sportsguy?


i noticed that he has others on the list in his sights, which may mean he is town, but something about the vote swing i talked about still has me wondering, i mean if flo was town, then why would the rest need to unvote flo and jump ship to darius?

flo may have put up some names just as a safeguard (always named MVT, sportsguy cause he lurks), bit i think cam may become a sacrificial lamb for mafia if he is one due to tom's claim - i mean that mafia would not go to lengths to protect him if he was in trouble, because they wouldnt want to reveal themselves....

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/22/09 at 18:30:02

I'm town, no wait uhhhhhh nevermind.  If you don't like the way i'm playing then vote me out.  I think Koopz or Kmacc is mafia if not both of them.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 18:48:35

tyler, the problem is you essentially arent playing - this is your game so far:


7C5F405D5B5C485A561F1F1E2F0 wrote:
Vote Flo

I'll make up a reason later.


04273825232430222E676766570 wrote:
I've been lurking, just haven't posted.  The first day is always a crapshoot and no one knows anything.  


56756A77717662707C353534050 wrote:
Unvote
Vote Darius


I'll take the blame if i'm wrong.


4E6D726F696E7A68642D2D2C1D0 wrote:
Vote Koopz


you have done nothing, 3 votes in 4 posts and fuck all else, and yet you turn around and say to vote you off if we arent happy with your play style??? dude, why sign up for if all you are going to do is this?

and why do think cooper/kmacc/both of them are mafia? wont hurt to write more than 30 words a post...

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Kmacc on 09/22/09 at 19:01:27

^Exactly. Tyler the problem is that you are contributing absolutely nothing. How can someone not be annoyed with the way you're playing at this point? You're playing as dead weight as far as I'm concerned. Flo is even a more valuable player at this point. At least he tries, unlike you.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by KoopZ on 09/22/09 at 20:05:32

my suspicions now lie pretty firmly with MVT.  he's a clever enough player to try the reverse psychology bit and get away with it IMO.  i would place a vote on him now, but....

vote: Tyler

this is ridiculous man.  town or mafia, someone who isnt gonna contribute anything to the game isnt gonna help anyone out.  post more than just random votes for no reason.  

at least just say why you're suspicious of me and/or kmacc.  just pretend you care for a post or two.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by AHowes on 09/22/09 at 20:18:22

The only reason that I'm not voting Tyler right now is that I'm afraid he's some suicidal townie/jester (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jester) whose goal is to be lynched or to lose on purpose. The only thing that I can't explain about that theory is what character he would be if that is his role... This just doesn't feel right to me...  




My sleuthing senses have been off lately...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/22/09 at 22:31:15

maybe, but i dont think honko would do that, i mean this forum's game style is to vote off lurkers, so if this role was included, the person could lurk around and win it inside the first couple of days.... i think its just tyler being a douche

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 00:55:15

town, what do you want to do with cam today? Lynch or not?

I'm tempted to lynch mvt as I think he's sus for the reasons flo said.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/23/09 at 02:19:48

I'm Pace, town vanilla.  I was trying to be so obvious that i wasn't mafia by doing literally nothing.  Most of the time the mafia tries to act like good ole townies.  So i'm suspicious of good ole townies like Koopz and Kmacc.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Kmacc on 09/23/09 at 04:06:28

unvote

For whatever odd reason, I get this vibe that you're telling the truth. Plus I kind of don't care at this point. If you're mafia, we'll be able to get you out of the game later because people are willing to risk lynching a lurker. Don't think you're off the hook just yet.

I find the reason for your suspicion stupid, but at least you gave one. All I'm trying to do is help and get stuff out there, otherwise we will get nowhere and keeping making stabs in the dark.

Anyway, I'll be back this afternoon and I'll do some reading and hopefully get to make a more solid vote.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 04:11:43

Tom is hilarious.  He is so bad at reading people in these games.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/23/09 at 04:17:22


Quote:
I'm Pace, town vanilla.

Anyone else to claim this role?  ::)

Ok, I read all the new posts written and I saw I had to (re)answer to some questions some of you asked me.

210C1104060E020D630 wrote:
[quote author=6C57485F520F07070F3E0 link=1253293852/125#134 date=1253651358]Suspects list:
- MVT
- Cam (99% sure he's mafia)
- Sportsguy
That's all for me for the moment.


reasons? without reasons, your suspicions mean nothing. so far three people who i think are mafia have slipped up in my eyes - two of them posted with who they think are sus/ innocent, and one made a post with nothing but a vote for cooper....

guys, if you really are town, you are going to have to do better than that

George

(btw, regardless of language barrier, flo knows how to play this game, remember that before you dismiss him as safe...)
[/quote]
I suspect 99% Cam because of the obvious reason that Tom saw him killing someone last night.
I suspect MVT because:

6A514E595409010109380 wrote:
That would pretty clever of him to accuse me of being mafia with him and then pass for a total trustful towny imo...

and I suspected Sportsguy because he just bandwagoned to vote for someone, and then for someone else and it could have brought to his lynch if he hadn't told his role/the role he says he plays.
Btw, you're right I know how to play the game because I played it lots of times (in real). But it's really different compared to this game because, first we have to talk in English during the whole game and I try to get used to it but it's very hard for me, bu also, we can't talk to each other like in the real game, so we can't see who seems to lie etc... It's really much harder to play this game here without making any mistakes...


74594451535B5758360 wrote:
i noticed that he has others on the list in his sights, which may mean he is town, but something about the vote swing i talked about still has me wondering, i mean if flo was town, then why would the rest need to unvote flo and jump ship to darius?

Because I didn't do anything that could make me become suspicious. This was just a bandwagoning on me. But we had reasons to vote for Darius and we were wrong at the end.  :-/ We lost an important member in our group


74594451535B5758360 wrote:
flo may have put up some names just as a safeguard (always named MVT, sportsguy cause he lurks)

Wow nice one George! ^^ I could do that too  :)
Maybe that's a nice strat to use for the mafia guys but I just started to suspct them at the beginning of Day2 (except for MVT whom I suspected from the beginning because he accused me and I may have found a reason for this act (see the post I quoted of myself above).

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 04:23:43

can someone use laceys thing to figure out quickly how many times everyone has posted?

I wanna hear more from ahowes. Who do you think is mafia and why?


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Honko on 09/23/09 at 04:29:17


Quote:
can someone use laceys thing to figure out quickly how many times everyone has posted?

Haha Tom, how hard is it to click the link and see it for yourself?


Votals
[1] Sportsguy - (Kmacc), Koopz
[1] EnigmaticCam - In Hiding
[1] Koopz - Sportsguy
[1] Borgeman - Tim

Day ends in 24 hours, or when a player reaches 6 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 05:20:18

well, we best start trying to work out who we are going to hang today, since there is only a day left -
im still quite happy to vote for any of the four i proposed mind you, but if anyone has any better ideas...

but if we cant agree on anyone towards the end of day, cam is probably our best bet

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Kmacc on 09/23/09 at 05:32:51

Posting from political science class.  :-X

vote: Cam

There's a lot flying around about suspicions, but nothing is too convincing yet. For now with what we have to work with, this seems to be the safest move. If Tom is right, then we get a mafia kill. If it's a lie, than we kill Tom. Pretty simple.

It may be best to go for someone else though today too since Cam may be a "confirmed mafia", but there's no one else to really go for that is surely a mafia player. This seems to be our safest bet for now, but I'll reanalyze the whole topic later.

Day two seems to have died out in terms of activity, even day one was active when we had nothing to go with. Come on guys, get posting! We need all the help we can get at this point.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 05:54:40

I'm still trying to work out if killing cam right now is the best thing to do. I suppose it is as he might have another power role which stops ours which he could use tonight.

So i'll stick with cam.

Unless someone else has some fucking amazing ideas.

btw, who should i scan tonight? I'm thinking MVT.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by KoopZ on 09/23/09 at 05:59:46

i think tom is lying personally.... but then again, i really like the fact that we might already have a confirmed mafia.  should we give a bit more thought to lynching someone else, and having vig kill him in the night?  or just lynching him tomorrow?

unvote

i'm up in the air as to what to do now....  i still dont like tyler's way of playing, and i want to get rid of him.  i still think MVT is pulling the wool over our eyes with his way of playing.  and we've got a possible mafia player to vote off right now.  i still havent seen more posts from andrew, joe, cam (is he even gonna try and defend himself?) or tim.  what do you guys think?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 06:08:07

if cam doesnt speak he might be mafia.  I think the only reason Tom suspects me though is because I might be on to his plan.

Another Scenario

Cam and Tom are mafia.  Cam is the vanilla mafia and Tom is power.  By ratting out his fellow mafia Tom clears himself for the entire game.



Personally here is what I think we should do.  We should kill Cam.  Depending on what his role is exactly we will know  what to do with Tom.  If Cam is town we kill Tom asap.  If cam is vanilla we stay alert of Tom.

Scan me tom, nice waste of a night.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 06:08:52

On that note!

Vote Cam

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:10:46

the scan is your choice tom, but i reckon it wont matter....

personally i think scan tim

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 06:12:34

Let's finish the day.  If cam won't talk he is obviously mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/23/09 at 06:12:34


392522202C3E2A357C4D0 wrote:
I'm still trying to work out if killing cam right now is the best thing to do. I suppose it is as he might have another power role which stops ours which he could use tonight.

So i'll stick with cam.

Unless someone else has some fucking amazing ideas.

btw, who should i scan tonight? I'm thinking MVT.

Well if we are sure Cam is mafia it would probably be better to lynch him so that, it will be one mafia less in this game. That's the best we can do for the moment (until we have some more clues about your other night scan Tom) ;)
Btw, I think you're right, you should scan MVT...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/23/09 at 06:15:38


7140494971444940250 wrote:
if cam doesnt speak he might be mafia.  I think the only reason Tom suspects me though is because I might be on to his plan.

Another Scenario

Cam and Tom are mafia.  Cam is the vanilla mafia and Tom is power.  By ratting out his fellow mafia Tom clears himself for the entire game.



Personally here is what I think we should do.  We should kill Cam.  Depending on what his role is exactly we will know  what to do with Tom.  If Cam is town we kill Tom asap.  If cam is vanilla we stay alert of Tom.

Scan me tom, nice waste of a night.

On that note, I advise you to scan MVT Tom.
If he doesn't appear mafia, then he is an idiot.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:16:59

you know what, unless cam comes on and involves himself in the next 12hrs or so, i think we should just vote him off due to him not being around - we can just pretend its our stock standard "lynch the guys who arent helping" lynch... if he is mafia, good, but if he turns out town (and not a miller), then we take out tom next day, and move on. of course if he is town, then we will be in the shit cause it will leave 4 townies dead, so all i can say is use your abilities wisely 2nite if they can be beneficial to the team

im gonna wait till 2moro morning (my time) to vote cam, in case he decides he wants to talk...

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 06:16:59

Don't you get it, I want Tom to scan me.  ;D

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:18:45

flo, tom has only had one night scan mate, as there only has been one night phase  ::)

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/23/09 at 06:19:47

True George  :) That's what I was thinking too.


Quote:
Don't you get it, I want Tom to scan me. ;D

Don't you get it? I want you to get scanned.

Vote: Cam

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 06:20:22

Ya sure, I'm mafia scan me  :'(

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/23/09 at 06:23:19

I hope for you you're mafia otherwise you are an idiot. You can choose...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:24:53

mvt please be serious in your posts.....

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 06:25:04

You nailed me Peter, I give up man.  You have played your godfather role so well this game and stayed under cover brilliantly.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by MVT on 09/23/09 at 06:27:07

Borgeman the day is over seeing as the only possible move town has right now is to vote off Cam.  Whatever is making you wait to vote is beyond me.

Why not try to make the emperor slip up to reveal his role to you all?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:32:13

i guess so - just checked cam's profile, he hasnt been online in 4 and a half days, so i guess that alone is reason enough to say adios

vote EnigmaticCam


we better not get fucken pwned here, ill be fucken pissed....



George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:34:45

fuck i just have this bad feeling the town will get their arses handed to them in this game... we have been on the back foot all game

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Honko on 09/23/09 at 06:39:55

Votals
[5] EnigmaticCam - In Hiding, Kmacc, MVT, Flo, Borgeman
[1] Koopz - Sportsguy
[1] Borgeman - Tim
[0] Sportsguy - (Kmacc), (Koopz)

Day ends in 21 hours, or when a player reaches 6 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 06:40:05

why are you all talking about taking me out? Why wont mafia take me out?

when I am killed tonight I want you all to know that;

Flo is not mafia
MVT could be mafia (his first day nominations are sus)
Koops is suspect, Tom maybe lying.. well if I was why is no one else roleclaiming?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 06:40:48

koops, I think YOU should be the one to put cam to the death.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:51:25


64495441434B4748260 wrote:
the scan is your choice tom, but i reckon it wont matter....

personally i think scan tim
George



tom, i expect you to get night killed, but i didnt specifically say it here, just to keep that notion of of people's heads, just in case  :P

before the day is over, just elaborate for me what you said 2 posts back, ill probabaly refer to it later in the game, cheers

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 06:53:47

just before I die, I want everyone to know that my post up there is gospel.

koops, nail, coffin, soon pls

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 06:54:46

george, do it.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Borgeman on 09/23/09 at 06:57:32

lol i already voted you blind pom  ;D

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by In Hiding on 09/23/09 at 07:06:13

haha, tim and sportsguy.

I bet they're not voting because they know cam's mafia and that the last person to vote for cam gets killed as well.

Or prove me wrong!!!

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/23/09 at 07:12:53

Maybe you're right Tom.  :P
Btw, maybe you won't get killed tonight neither. Who knows... ^^

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by AHowes on 09/23/09 at 07:22:32

I've been holding off voting because a) I've been asleep/in a 9 AM class, b) to give people time for a possible counter-claim on anything, and c) to give time for Cam to maybe come online and reply. As there have been no counterclaims, the only logical conclusion (to me) is to assume that Tom is telling the truth about scanning Cam, especially since Cam hasn't been here to dispute it in any way.

Other things that I've noticed and want to say before the day is over: Tim has made one post during Day 2, where he voted for George, seems kind of suspicious, especially since he had a decent number of posts Day 1. Joe has made one post also, and is staying under the radar, which I don't like. Tyler's roleclaim as Charlie Pace checks out, I wouldn't expect Charlie to have too many other roles than Vanilla.

Either way, Cam is not helping the town, and voting for him just has too many more benefits than drawbacks. To advance the game:

Vote: Cam

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Night 2
Post by Honko on 09/23/09 at 07:35:27

EnigmaticCam has been lynched.  He was Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla.

You have 23 hours to send in your night actions by PM.  If you have a night action but are choosing not to use it, please send in "No action."


Final Day 2 Votals
[6]EnigmaticCam - In Hiding, Kmacc, MVT, Flo, Borgeman, Howes
[1] Koopz - Sportsguy
[1] Borgeman - Tim
[0] Sportsguy - (Kmacc), (Koopz)


The Living
1. Borgeman (George)
4. Flo
5. Howes
6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
9. Koopz
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)
3. EnigmaticCam - Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla (Lynched D2)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Honko on 09/24/09 at 06:18:48

Nobody died last night.

The Living
1. Borgeman (George)
4. Flo
5. Howes
6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
9. Koopz
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)
3. EnigmaticCam - Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla (Lynched D2)

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.  Day ends in 48 hours, or when a player reaches 6 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/24/09 at 06:26:39

Well since Tom lived through the night he needs to tell us who he scanned and what the result was.  It's as simple as that.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Borgeman on 09/24/09 at 06:40:02


Quote:
Nobody died last night.


love the great story telling here  :P

so tom, what did you find?


George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Honko on 09/24/09 at 06:42:52

"In the morning the survivors woke up and saw that nobody died last night."

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Borgeman on 09/24/09 at 06:50:09

lol honko, you are a classic  :D

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by EnigmaticCam on 09/24/09 at 07:55:26

Really sorry I disappeared like that guys, though it looks like I was too late. A lot of personal shit has been happening this past week, involving both work and home, and I was just unable to come and participate. Good luck with the game.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by KoopZ on 09/24/09 at 08:06:56

well... someone either protected tom, or town got lucky with a roleblock.  either way, nobody dying last night is a start to turning the advantage back to us.

@ tom - had i been around to make the last vote, i would have, but i was in class when the day ended.  sorry i guess?  :P  and while right now i feel its a bit useless to ask it atm considering his current status.... 1) what scan info did you get last night?  and 2) why the hell are you an ex-member?  :-?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/24/09 at 09:54:26


51766E7C6A190 wrote:
I've been holding off voting because a) I've been asleep/in a 9 AM class, b) to give people time for a possible counter-claim on anything, and c) to give time for Cam to maybe come online and reply. As there have been no counterclaims, the only logical conclusion (to me) is to assume that Tom is telling the truth about scanning Cam, especially since Cam hasn't been here to dispute it in any way.

Other things that I've noticed and want to say before the day is over: Tim has made one post during Day 2, where he voted for George, seems kind of suspicious, especially since he had a decent number of posts Day 1. Joe has made one post also, and is staying under the radar, which I don't like. Tyler's roleclaim as Charlie Pace checks out, I wouldn't expect Charlie to have too many other roles than Vanilla.

Either way, Cam is not helping the town, and voting for him just has too many more benefits than drawbacks. To advance the game:

Vote: Cam


Before saying anything else, I'd like to reply to this post.  Firstly Howes, in the same way that you gave reasons for being away, I also have some.  First my only post of day 2 was at 5 PM local time in the afternoon/evening.  I didn't feel I could add anything constructive before going to sleep that night so didn't post again in that time.  Currently during the days I am self studying at my dads house, which means getting up bright and early and I don't go on the comp in the mornings.  I stayed there until 8 PM in the evening yesterday and when I came home a lynch had already been made.  So there, that's why my post count was low, and explains why I'm only here in the evenings.  I could argue the same thing in your direction, and what exactly have you contributed this game?  Going to have a long hard look at your posts now.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Peter on 09/24/09 at 10:46:43


6944594C4E464A452B0 wrote:

Quote:
Nobody died last night.


love the great story telling here  :P

so tom, what did you find?


George

Nice!!!  :D I knew you wouldn't get killed tonight!  [smiley=roll.gif]
So yes, tell us what you found!...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/24/09 at 11:28:56

Vote Koopz

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Eoj on 09/24/09 at 12:14:17

Tyler- I'm not against your vote on Koopz, but would you mind explaining your reasoning a little? You've been acting fishy lately, and I'm just curious as to what your motives are at this point.

I admit I haven't been posting a ton, but I plan on changing that. Maybe not today because I have to work all night, but it's been an interesting game thus far for me...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/24/09 at 12:26:26

I need to speak to Honko about something before I post again.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Kmacc on 09/24/09 at 12:32:01

Sportsguy, what's your reason for your vote? The same as yesterday?

You're still probably my top suspect Tyler. Primarily for these reasons:

1) You're posts are virtually useless.
2) You made the killing vote on Darius.

Also to add to it was that you didn't vote for Cam yesterday, but maybe you were busy, I don't know.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/24/09 at 12:35:36

My vote for koopz is the same as yesterday, but i also have no problem voting for kmacc.  They are both in the same boat in my opinion.  Atleast 1 is mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Peter on 09/24/09 at 13:05:26

I'll wait till Tom post something before voting for anyone...  :)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Kmacc on 09/24/09 at 13:08:14

Oddly for some reason, I completely forgot your role claim, had to re-read to realize that. Anyway maybe you're not so suspicious, but just try to help a bit more...

Edit: ^This is directed at sportsguy.

Final Day 1Votals
[4] Darius - Flo, Tim, In Hiding, Sportsguy
[3] Matt V - MVT, Darius, Howes
[2] Sportsguy - Koopz, Kmacc
[1] Flo - (Tim), EnigmaticCam, (Sportsguy), (MVT)
[0] Tim - (Kmacc), (Darius), (Matt V)
[0] MVT - (Tim), (Flo), (Matt V)


Final Day 2 Votals
[6]EnigmaticCam - In Hiding, Kmacc, MVT, Flo, Borgeman, Howes
[1] Koopz - Sportsguy
[1] Borgeman - Tim
[0] Sportsguy - (Kmacc), (Koopz)


So it may turn out that most of the people who voted Darius out are town.

Sportsguy claimed the Pace guy, Tom was right about his scan, so they should be fine.

Tim is obviously the most suspicious of the bunch. First he went for killing Darius. I don't always believe that stuff when people say that they voted for someone because that person voted for them, most of the time it's done out of anger and frustration more than it is strategy based. Then on day two, not only did he not vote for Cam (although he said he was busy), he voted for George, who has been one of our best players so far, and is definitely bringing up the most info.

Flo is the only other one to make a case against here. He led the way for Darius getting lynched on day one. He did vote to take out Cam though on day two, but that was after it was basically decided that lynching Cam was the best way to go. Maybe at that point it could be a mafia move throwing his vanilla under the bus because there was no way to save him.

Those two are at the top of my list for the moment.


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 2 - Lynch together, die alone.
Post by Peter on 09/24/09 at 13:13:40

I just have one answer to your post Kmacc:

435F585A5644504F06370 wrote:
why are you all talking about taking me out? Why wont mafia take me out?

when I am killed tonight I want you all to know that;

Flo is not mafia
MVT could be mafia (his first day nominations are sus)
Koops is suspect, Tom maybe lying.. well if I was why is no one else roleclaiming?

And that's true. But I think Tom has some reasons to believe that...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/24/09 at 13:15:58

Kmacc is innocent IMO, he is one of the most consistent posters who I've seen play and he's playing exactly how I expected.  

Vote:  AHowes


Reason?  Fucking obvious if you read his posts.  


6A4D554751220 wrote:
I'm here. No votes yet, although I want to vote Flo just because his name is obnoxiously long. Everyone should try to post to show that they are aware that they are in the game.


This is a typical 1st post.  A way of getting in the game in the most discreet way possible.  Can be a mafia trying to hide or a townie trying to blend.


55726A786E1D0 wrote:
I don't think the links are disappearing b/c of high traffic, I think it's a side effect of the handicapped posts. They seem to be wreaking havoc with the forum.


Ok so he wasn't the only one posting about the site being crap but for me this is trying to get in a post just to look like a participant.

(His next post is quite long winded on page 3, he really made an effort with a big post  ;D )

Page 4:
795E465442310 wrote:
So the day ends tomorrow in about 15 hours. As it stands, the day would continue, as Flo and Darius are tied at 2 votes apiece. In the rules, it says that the day would continue with the votes only counting for the two of them. We need to decide whether we want to lynch one of those two, whether we want to lynch someone else, or if we want to no lynch. Don't shoot me for bringing the last one up, but we have little to go on right now. I'm fine with anything right now, but I'll wait until tomorrow to decide.


Biggest pile of crap in the world  :P  Seriously, we don't need the game explained to us, just another post to make it look like participation.  Notice a trend here.  No one is really taking any notice of Howes posts.  He is slipping under the radar in typical mafia style.


72554D5F493A0 wrote:
Massively confused (instant edit: maybe conflicted is a better word) here...

Darius, that roleclaim makes complete sense now. Problem is, right now you are on track to be lynched. The only thing I can do to change that right now is to vote for someone else to get them up to 3 votes, and even that won't definitely help unless other people switch their vote.

Since there seems to be no person that deserves a vote more,

Vote: Matt V, for being suspicious, and being a hindrance to the game.
This puts it at a 3-3 split, and would prolong the day if there weren't any more votes. Three people currently aren't voting (George, Matt V, Joe) so everything is fluid right now. I'll be around for the next two hours if needed.
I'm still confused why Flo's board name is peter...


Now this post is important.  Howes, (at this point we are assuming he is a mafia player) knows that a Darius lynch is almost inevitable so he makes a wet statement about being confused and places his vote onto Matt V, just so it doesn't look like he's voting Darius, who we discover to be a townie.  We then find Matt lynched at night.  No one has taken notice of Howes vote on Matt as they tried to cut off the trail to Howes.  I bet this was his decision to keep himself out of danger.


60475F4D5B280 wrote:
[quote author=372B2C2E2230243B72430 link=1253293852/100#115 date=1253630662]or maybe i'm being a little hasty, it didn't have his name, just what he did. He made a kill, which means he's mafia.


I'm sorry Tom, but this sounds a bit weak. There are several town roles that could make kills in this game also. Just off the top of my head, there is the jack-of-all-trades, vigilante, maybe some twisted role we've never seen before. What exactly did you get as a result for your scan? For all we know, there could have been several attempted kills last night, and there could have been several people that were protected from those kills. I'm just taking everything with a grain of salt at this point.

@ George- That looks good. I never see too much of a reason to look for vote patterns on the first day, but then again, I never seem to do well in these games... most of the first day (at least to me) is just going against people on principle, and without evidence, in order to get rid of people you don't like.

Please correct me if I'm wrong on anything, it's been happening to me more and more lately.  :-/[/quote]

Boohoo.  Mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/24/09 at 13:17:15


54736B796F1C0 wrote:
I've been holding off voting because a) I've been asleep/in a 9 AM class, b) to give people time for a possible counter-claim on anything, and c) to give time for Cam to maybe come online and reply. As there have been no counterclaims, the only logical conclusion (to me) is to assume that Tom is telling the truth about scanning Cam, especially since Cam hasn't been here to dispute it in any way.

Other things that I've noticed and want to say before the day is over: Tim has made one post during Day 2, where he voted for George, seems kind of suspicious, especially since he had a decent number of posts Day 1. Joe has made one post also, and is staying under the radar, which I don't like. Tyler's roleclaim as Charlie Pace checks out, I wouldn't expect Charlie to have too many other roles than Vanilla.

Either way, Cam is not helping the town, and voting for him just has too many more benefits than drawbacks. To advance the game:

Vote: Cam


So Howes kills off his mafia buddy and covers his reasoning up with a lot of deviation, including an accusation at me.  

So that's about it.  What say you Howes?  Owned.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/24/09 at 13:56:37

Bahhhhhhhhhh why won't anyone post when I'm on?  See you tomorrow.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Borgeman on 09/24/09 at 15:34:13

well so far im one from one on my suspect list, but i REALLY want to know who tom scanned last night...

tim, you do make some points against howes, i will brood over this and more while im at work, and hopefully when i get back, tom has reported his findings

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Borgeman on 09/24/09 at 23:54:27

how is it that no one has posted for 8 hours?


gay


George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 00:23:52

I'm waiting on Honko, i can't post until he replies to my pm. 8-)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 05:01:16

Ok, I was roleblocked, maybe they can do that everyday to the same person I'm not sure.

My hunch is still with MVT but the post assasination on Ahowes looked pretty bad..

Vote MVT (Admittedly a hunch more than anything)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Kmacc on 09/25/09 at 05:04:07

And that's true. But I think Tom has some reasons to believe that...

@Flo: How could we know that's true? Tom said this on day two, meaning he should have only had one scan to that point. Since he already said he used it on Cam night one, then he couldn't have used it on you, so he should have no way of knowing. That's what I would think at least.

Speaking of Tom, it seems like you have some information for us, hopefully we get to see it soon.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Kmacc on 09/25/09 at 05:09:50

@Tom: Damn, thought you would have another mafia scanned. :(

We need to pick the pace of this day a bit. We haven't gotten really anyway so far, and it's halfway done. I'll be back later today as I'm going to work, but people have already brought up some good points that can help make a decision today.

Tom, if it's possible, can you post some stuff from MVT that you saw as suspicious? I know everyone should be able to read back, but it could serve as a better reference point that we can refer to for today. I can remember a few posts of why you thought he was suspicious, but I'm not completely convinced on him being mafia yet.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 05:28:49

ok give me a couple of mins to sift through this all.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 05:41:52


1F2E27271F2A272E4B0 wrote:
I'M MAFIA AND ONE OF MY BUDDIES IS FLO!


Flo is seeminly innocent, i'd bet 99% on it. I think this post is to get subliminal suspicion onto flo from the outset.

He then votes flo - who I believe to be a goodie (town)

Then he votes matt - who was town


4170797941747970150 wrote:
If it only takes one vote to break the tie, Matt V will just come online and vote for darius...

someone knock out matt please.


Impatience on the part of mafia?


55646D6D55606D64010 wrote:
Maybe Tom is not cop and he just had some one time scan.  But then again if Tom is mafia it would be PERFECT for him to claim to have scanned cam.  

Scenario

Tom is mafia.
Cam is town.

Tom claims that he is cop and scanned cam as.  Cam is actually town because tom is lying.  The real town cop really shouldnt be stupid enough to reveal his role this early.  Tom is desperately trying to get us to lynch one more town and then the mafia get a night kill.  This would kill town badly.  This next lynch is crucial and I do not want to vote off cam right now.  This would be the perfect time of game for Tom to "claim cop" and get another easy town lynched off.


Aparently I'm mafia  ;D


6A5B52526A5F525B3E0 wrote:
Tyler does seem very suspicious to me right now.


Another suspicion but without a vote. Put up or shut up? You're planting seeds without any evidence or reasoning. Seems sus to me.


43727B7B43767B72170 wrote:
Tom is hilarious.  He is so bad at reading people in these games.


Anyone against me is Mafia as I am Town.


57666F6F57626F66030 wrote:
Ya sure, I'm mafia scan me  :'(


double bluff

anyway, since then he's been relatively quiet, could be many reasons for that (like i'm usually quiet on the weekends) but i think its more likely that i'm on to him and the other mafia have quietly told him to shut up before he gets more suspicion on himself.

i'm not 100% convinced but he's either mafia or fucking awful town. Probably Benjamin Linus :D

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 05:58:21

Maybe you should just do your job and tell us who you scanned instead of contributing nonsense?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by KoopZ on 09/25/09 at 05:59:59

tyler... wtf.  i'm not even gonna try and defend myself against such a shit reason to think i'm mafia.  how can i when the only reason you have is that i'm "just pretending to be a good ole townie"?  you come up with a better reason than that to think that i'm mafia and i'll be able to better prove to you that i'm not.

tim, i agree with your points about howes, but i also agree with tom's about MVTs, and personally, i think MVT is mafia is more believable than howes is mafia.  something rings pretty true about howes posts to me, and MVT has done nothing but play with our heads all game.  in a game like this, i think that really shouldnt be tolerated, especially when mafia is still a kill up on us.  so...

vote: MVT

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 06:10:52

suspicious koop.  

why would you vote for me when Tom may have scanned someone that came up mafia and we would have a guaranteed lynch?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 06:13:58

did you miss the post where I said I was roleblocked?

I tried to scan you MVT.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 06:20:31

obviously mafia roleblocked you, smart move by them.  I encourage you to try and scan me again though.  The mafia would be smart to not allow you to see my innocence.  Sorry but my role is a vanilla town.  Don't waste your lynch  on me.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 06:22:41

I intend to keep trying to scan you. Dont worry about that.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 06:24:48

although to be honest, right now i'm more interested on working out who your accomplice could be.

Ahowes is looking somewhat sus. Koops and Kmacc are still in the running. George.. somehow, something tells me you're not mafia.. instinct, something tiny in the way you're posting.

Anyway, we need to start voting people.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 06:29:28

My post didn't sound too convincing on second read.

First day I was messing around with people's heads and hoping maybe Flo would fuck up with his English and reveal something.  I tricked Flo before in a past game and he screwed up pretty badly so I tried it again since absolutely nothing was happening in the day.  Also keep in mind sportsguy was the one to actually vote for Flo first not myself.

I was admittedly wrong on Matt V.

I think joe, Flo, kmacc, tom, and possibly Borgeman are innocent.

I am suspect of Howes, Tim, Koop, and possibly sportsguy.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 06:30:58

I love your certainty in a blind game Tom.  You are so prophetic, everything you are saying is going to turn out perfectly correct in the end mate.   ::)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by InHiding on 09/25/09 at 06:54:03

You remember that comment when we get to the end of the game and we can go back and see if I played well or not?

Koops, will you have time to read all the posts properly as opposed to going for summaries?

Kmacc, who do you think is mafia and why?

Howes, convince me you are not mafia.

Flo, what do you think of MVT?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Honko on 09/25/09 at 07:26:58

Votals
[2] MVT - Tom, Koopz
[1] Koopz - Sportsguy
[1] Howes - Syzygy

Day ends in 23 hours or when a player reaches 6 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by AHowes on 09/25/09 at 07:45:44

My first reaction to seeing Tim's post was: Finally, someone acknowledges that I'm posting. This whole game, I've been posting, and I haven't really seen evidence that anyone was reading them. I haven't been trying to slip by, I've been trying to add what I know, and see if people agree with what I'm saying.

Also, in basically every game so far, I've been a proponent of posting more. I call out those that aren't posting, if only so that they will provide a reason for this behavior. If they don't give a reason, or just plain don't post, then I'll vote for them. When I'm not posting, people should call me out so that I have a reason to post. With fewer posts, there is a greater chance of mafia slipping though without being noticed, and with more posts, we have more to base our suspicions on.

As for all the times I stated I was unsure, they were another method to get people to notice my posts and respond to them, if only by mentioning what I said. However, no one responded to them (until now), so I had little to no reason to keep posting, and I had no frame of reference for whether my suspicions are right. The other reason is that I don't have the best record in mafia (I think I have lost all but one or two games that I was in  :-[ ). I was hoping that someone who has done better could tell me if my thoughts were justified or not.

Right now, the one thing that is bugging me is that Flo keeps insisting that Tom knows that he is not mafia. This may just be the language barrier, but it kind of gives me the impression that they are communicating outside the topic. However, MVT's condemnation of Flo in his very first post is suspicious as well, even if it was intended as jest. He hasn't contributed terribly much to the game. At times, he hasn't read all the posts in the topic, as evidenced by his asking Tom who he scanned both 5 and 7 posts after Tom stated that he was roleblocked.

Vote: MVT

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 08:33:40

Howes is playing a good game as scum.  ;)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 08:36:07

It's trivial to even defend myself at this point.  Town is so screwed.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 08:39:11

Playing handicapped with board problems blows too.  My role sucks and I am not even motivated to play.  This game was fucked up from the start with the double town death.  After this lynch the mafia will have almost complete control over the game simply by the numbers.  Congratulations on the first mafia victory since game 1.   [smiley=dead.gif]

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Peter on 09/25/09 at 08:59:49

Hey guys. Just came back from school and already read all the new posts. ^^
So some things that I have to answer:

4D515654584A5E4108390 wrote:
did you miss the post where I said I was roleblocked?

I tried to scan you MVT.

Shit!  [smiley=chairshot.gif]


54656C6C54616C65000 wrote:
I am suspect of Howes, Tim, Koop, and possibly sportsguy.


If MVT gets lynched and that he reveals to be mafia, I'm sure there are 1 or 2 players listed here that are mafia. Sportsguy must be innocent, and then I don't know what to say about the 3 others for the moment...


495552505C4E5A450C3D0 wrote:
Flo, what do you think of MVT?

I still think exactly the same as what I thought since the beginning of the game.
He seems all the more suspicious to me because he may be lynched today and he seems to not try to defend himself...   :-X
I have really strong doubts on him though, because I think the same as Tom:

677B7C7E7260746B22130 wrote:
i'm not 100% convinced but he's either mafia or fucking awful town. Probably Benjamin Linus :D


I really don't know actually thats really annoying. :'(


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Peter on 09/25/09 at 09:08:24

Things I forgot to say.

54484F4D4153475811200 wrote:
George.. somehow, something tells me you're not mafia..

Same!  :o
There are 2 possibilities at that point:
- Either you are towny and everything would be explained. Indeed, the way you talk and the sentences you right shows us that you are towny. (just an instinct)
- Or you found a very good way to play this game and appear as a towny. And that would be very clever.
I hope I'm right if i say that I think you are a towny.


0A3B32320A3F323B5E0 wrote:
It's trivial to even defend myself at this point.  Town is so screwed.

Haha! great clue! Thanks MVT  :D
I'll be online for 40 minuts more and I'll try to make the good choice... Then, I'll be back 2 hours later (going swimming) and I'll see what has finally happened.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by KoopZ on 09/25/09 at 09:13:33

flo, you're posts never make any sense to me.

tom, you want a blow by blow from me on each player?  i wont go thru every player, but here's what i think so far

flo - see what i just said a few lines up.  i think he's town, but i cant figure him out cuz of everything he's saying.  seems to be following tom around like a little lost puppy.

kmacc - almost positive he's town.  he's a consistent poster, gives good info every time, and is generally just a smart player.  i think he's been town every previous game so far, and because of this, if he were mafia in this game, something would've changed about his style of posting by now.  not gonna vote for him.

tyler - i think he's mafia, and he's just fuckin with us by making random votes for no logical reason.  

MVT - same as tyler, minus the voting part of things.  MVT is just fuckin with us, and its annoying.

howes - why would he keep posting if his posts get ignored and no one responds?  i dont blame him for that in the slightest.  town, IMO.

and finally

JOE - hello, under the radar anyone?  he's made what, two posts all game?  he's contributed next to nothing and he's getting away with it, and no one seems to notice or care.  definite mafia IMO, now that i'm looking at it.

tom - you're town.  you're playing the exact same as you always have.  you're gonna lose the day you're on the mafia side cuz everyone's gonna notice the change in playing style.  ;)

thats more or less what i think so far.  the only reason my posts have been mostly summaries is cuz i havent hardly had the time to read thru each new post thoroughly and then go back thru the rest of the topic and look for patterns and such.  this was the first chance i've had to really sit down and look at everyone.  and so with that being said, based off what i think of the players so far

unvote
vote:  Joe

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 09:19:50

Flo you quoted  InHiding and then say thanks to me?  I honestly don't understand

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 09:21:04

Koop is mafia guys.

Vote Kooper

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Peter on 09/25/09 at 09:21:49


Quote:
flo - see what i just said a few lines up.  i think he's town, but i cant figure him out cuz of everything he's saying.  seems to be following tom around like a little lost puppy.

I just seem to then. I just want try to share my opinion with other people that I'm sure are towny (= here Tom mainly)

And I'll quote Howes's post (because I think it's the most interesting post I've seen till now) and will reveal something that I know if the thing that I predict actually happens tonight.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Peter on 09/25/09 at 09:24:19


4F7E77774F7A777E1B0 wrote:
Flo you quoted  InHiding and then say thanks to me?  I honestly don't understand

Ah shit! Sorry guys I just edited my post because I had to fix this mistake. :s

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 09:24:21

Either koop or howes or tim.  Anyone besides those 3 is a poor choice.

Title: R[b][/b]e: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 09:30:01

During the Star Wars mafia game Koop made a post exactly like that when he was mafia.  Anyone that he said was "imo town"  or "possibly town"  or "slightly suspicious" were his accomplices that game.  The post just struck me.  He also ignored Tim just to mix it up and leave one mafia out of the eye of the post viewer.  

Mark my words, Koopz, Tim, and Howes.  I almost think after consideration that Howes is the biggest threat of the 3 right now.

Unvote

Vote Howes

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Peter on 09/25/09 at 09:36:08

I really don't think Howes is mafia. But we'll see...
Vote: MVT
If you appear to be mafia, then, Howes may not be because almost nobody suspected Howes before you and you would not try to kill an unsuspected mafia player (or you would be an idiot if you did). And, if you appear not to be mafia... then... we'll see, and we'll comment and try to find a sort of truth in what you said since the beginning. That's all good for towny people.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 09:42:45

If I get to 5 votes I will do something crazy.  I will be gone for a while now (5-6 hours).  Please hesitate to place the last vote until I return and make the proclamation.  That is my only request.

Otherwise do not hesitate to unvote me and vote howes.

Title: Re: R[b][/b]e: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/25/09 at 11:10:51


7A4B42427A4F424B2E0 wrote:
During the Star Wars mafia game Koop made a post exactly like that when he was mafia.  Anyone that he said was "imo town"  or "possibly town"  or "slightly suspicious" were his accomplices that game.  The post just struck me.  He also ignored Tim just to mix it up and leave one mafia out of the eye of the post viewer.  

Mark my words, Koopz, Tim, and Howes.  I almost think after consideration that Howes is the biggest threat of the 3 right now.

Unvote

Vote Howes


Why on earth would I single a team mate out like that if I was mafia?  Howes was completely slipping under the radar, that's why I called him out.

About people voting MVT - yes his posting is annoying, but at least he is making an effort to defend himself.  Howes simply posted one long post, conveniently perfectly worded as not to rouse further suspicion.  Don't fall for it guys!  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Eoj on 09/25/09 at 11:16:18

Nobody died last night. That means the mafia wasn't able to make a kill last night. There's a reason for that, and trust me when I say that there's a reason for that...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/25/09 at 11:18:30

Omg, really?  You mean like, they forgot to make their kill?  That's a reason -_____-

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Eoj on 09/25/09 at 11:19:54

Wow. Nice deduction...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/25/09 at 11:26:34

No but, isn't it as obvious as anything that there is a reason? Seriously, explaining the game is annoying.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Eoj on 09/25/09 at 11:35:52

Yes, it's obvious. It's not obvious, however, that certain people may have had a very significant role in said explanation.

I trapped Koopz last night. My role states that I'm able to trap a person each night until I trap someone, and once I trap someone, I can't set another trap for the rest of the game. Koopz was trapped (meaning he had a night action), his night action wasn't able to be carried out (because of my trap), meaning Koopz is 99% mafia in my book.

That's why there wasn't a mafia kill last night.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by KoopZ on 09/25/09 at 12:12:31

how does that prove i'm mafia?  that simply proves that i tried to perform a night action last night, and it failed.  and you're right, i did try to perform a night action last night, and it failed due to your trap.  your claim means nothing, and you wasted your trap.  way to go joe.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Eoj on 09/25/09 at 12:15:28

It means that you tried to perform a night kill, it failed because you were in my trap, and because you didn't die means that someone else did something to protect you.

Koopz is mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Eoj on 09/25/09 at 12:25:01

Vote: Koopz

It's over for you, Koopz. Nothing that you say at this point will make me believe that you're not mafia. I didn't waste a trap; I nailed a mafia member.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by KoopZ on 09/25/09 at 12:29:12

all right, i give.  gg guys, hopefully better luck for me next time.  best of luck to mafia!  ;)

unvote
vote: Koopz

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/25/09 at 12:32:36

Unvote

Vote: Koopz


Nice one Eoj.  Then we can kill Howes and it's almost GG.  If I get nightkilled Howes is definitely mafia  ::)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by AHowes on 09/25/09 at 12:43:43

because that totally makes sense... :-/

I just realized something, forgot to address this before.

262C2F2C322C550 wrote:
[quote author=72554D5F493A0 link=1253293852/75#93 date=1253454258]Massively confused (instant edit: maybe conflicted is a better word) here...

Darius, that roleclaim makes complete sense now. Problem is, right now you are on track to be lynched. The only thing I can do to change that right now is to vote for someone else to get them up to 3 votes, and even that won't definitely help unless other people switch their vote.

Since there seems to be no person that deserves a vote more,

Vote: Matt V, for being suspicious, and being a hindrance to the game.
This puts it at a 3-3 split, and would prolong the day if there weren't any more votes. Three people currently aren't voting (George, Matt V, Joe) so everything is fluid right now. I'll be around for the next two hours if needed.
I'm still confused why Flo's board name is peter...


Now this post is important.  Howes, (at this point we are assuming he is a mafia player) knows that a Darius lynch is almost inevitable so he makes a wet statement about being confused and places his vote onto Matt V, just so it doesn't look like he's voting Darius, who we discover to be a townie.  We then find Matt lynched at night.  No one has taken notice of Howes vote on Matt as they tried to cut off the trail to Howes.  I bet this was his decision to keep himself out of danger.
[/quote]

Nightkilling Matt V here just because I put a vote on here wouldn't make sense at all. I'm guessing that Matt was killed because of this:

48706D6C6B404F737E667A6D405A697A6D1F0 wrote:
Vote: Darius

The board time is differnet from mine, so I doubt this is in on time, but it really doesn't change anything.

As I said before though, I'm Doctor Juliet.

He flat-out said that he was a doctor. If you were mafia, who would you kill at this point in the game? A random townie, or a self-declared doctor?

Also, if you pointed this out before, why would I kill you just because you voted for me? That just makes no sense at all.

unvote
Vote: Koopz

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 13:31:04

I was right!!!

I knew koop was mafia

So is Howes OBVIOUSLY

unvote vote Koopz

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by MVT on 09/25/09 at 13:36:04

that was 6 votes lock it up.  Howes is next.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Night 3
Post by Honko on 09/25/09 at 21:52:22

Koopz actually only had 5 votes since self-votes don't count.  However, he clearly stopped playing to win.

Koopz has been modkilled.  He was Mikhail Bakunin, MAFIA Bulletproof.

You have 23 hours to send in your night actions by PM.  If you have a night action but are choosing not to use it, please send in "No action."


Final Day 3 Votals
[5] Koopz - Sportsguy, (MVT), Joe, Syzygy, Howes, MVT
[2] MVT - Tom, (Koopz), (Howes), Flo
[0] Howes - (Syzygy), (MVT)
[0] Joe - (Koopz)


The Living
1. Borgeman (George)
4. Flo
5. Howes
6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)
3. EnigmaticCam - Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla (Lynched D2)
9. Koopz - Mikhail Bakunin, MAFIA Bulletproof (Modkilled D3)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Honko on 09/26/09 at 21:20:22

Borgeman has been killed.  He was Jack Shephard, TOWN Mayor.

The Living
4. Flo
5. Howes
6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)
3. EnigmaticCam - Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla (Lynched D2)
9. Koopz - Mikhail Bakunin, MAFIA Bulletproof (Modkilled D3)
1. Borgeman - Jack Shephard, TOWN Mayor (Killed N3)

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.  Day ends in 48 hours, or when a player reaches 5 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Borgeman on 09/27/09 at 00:23:44

aww damn, they got me  [smiley=uzi.gif]

go town! (nice job joe - dint get a chance to say that before the day ended :D)

george

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/27/09 at 00:31:53

I would have liked to be here to vote Koopz too...  :-/
Anyway, I'm glad Joe told us that and that an other mafia guy got killed thanks to him. ^^
So Tom and I were right, George was a towny.  :)
So Tom, who did you scan tonight?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/27/09 at 01:59:37

Come on guys! No answer for an hour and a half or more!!  :o
Wake up! lol

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by InHiding on 09/27/09 at 02:57:44

scanned howes, he did nothing

hmmm.. my votes still with mvt. I'm sure he's sus.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/27/09 at 04:53:46

Vote Kmacc

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/27/09 at 05:15:00

So, MVT was wrong about him...
Well how many mafia are there still? 2 isn't it?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/27/09 at 06:13:43

No way Tom, he's mafia, a third party must have got involved.

Vote:  Howes

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Kmacc on 09/27/09 at 07:28:32

@Tom: Yesterday you asked who I find suspicious. At this point, my top suspects would be MVT and Howes.

MVT has said some suspicious things as you pointed out Tom. Although he gave a somewhat convincing defense to back him up, we still have to be aware of him. He's done this is previous games where he was able to manipulate people to get his way, so he's capable of doing that now.

For Howes, I think Tim's attack pretty much sums up everything about Howes. Although his posts weren't completely acknowledged, he's still slipping under the radar.

From what I've seen, MVT is probably more dangerous than Howes because he's very manipulative, so maybe we lynch MVT today and Howes tomorrow? Tom what do you think? I know you said you got nothing on Howes, do you think he's suspicious?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by KoopZ on 09/27/09 at 07:30:17

hahaha, i got modkilled, i didnt know self votes didnt count.... they've counted in the past, i thought?

long live mafia.   [smiley=evil.gif]

* goes back to the dead

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/27/09 at 09:58:08


3D37343729374E0 wrote:
No way Tom, he's mafia, a third party must have got involved.

Vote:  Howes

Why? :-?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/27/09 at 10:04:50

Weren't you here yesterday? -___-

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/27/09 at 10:18:41

I was here but, if Tom says that he is not mafia, then he is not... I suppose.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by InHiding on 09/27/09 at 10:23:11

everyone was expecting me to scan mvt, the fact i did sportsguy and he didn't show up makes me think that he didn't actually do anything.

Vote MVT

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Kmacc on 09/27/09 at 11:06:46

Like I said earlier, MVT is one of the most suspicious and he can pose the biggest threat because he's manipulative. He tried using reverse psychology on Tom earlier in the game which he has also done in the past when he was mafia. This is just my read on it, and I feel MVT is either showing signs that he is mafia or is just being confusing.

If I'm not mistaken, he made a claim that he was a town vanilla, which is an easy way to get away with lying about a claim. If I'm imagining this claim, somebody let me know. But as I said earlier for now, MVT looks to be the biggest threat.

vote: MVT

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by MVT on 09/27/09 at 11:36:32

I'm town jack and I dare anyone to counterclaim.  I tried to kill Howes last night but the kill was unsuccessful for some reason.  I scanned Joe earlier and he came up innocent.  

edit - my character is Sayid Jarrah if anyone cares to know

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/27/09 at 11:50:43

You can't kill + scan can you?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/27/09 at 11:53:01

Howes is mafia.  It's obvious Tom was roleblocked after I gave Howes all that stick.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Eoj on 09/27/09 at 12:03:08

Why would you scan me after I'm the one who got the ball rolling on Koopz? Like a mafia member would out someone who had very little heat on them...

Unless, of course, you scanned me on Day 1, which is fine, I suppose...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/27/09 at 12:47:54


65797E7C7062766920110 wrote:
everyone was expecting me to scan mvt, the fact i did sportsguy and he didn't show up makes me think that he didn't actually do anything.

Vote MVT


Why did you waste a scan on me?  I voted for Koopz 2 days ago and yesterday before anyone and before Joe confirmed he was mafia.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by MVT on 09/27/09 at 18:05:00

Joe I scanned you first night of the game for the hell of it.  

I tried to kill Howes last night and it failed.

I still have a protect / heal role remaining.

vote Howes

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/27/09 at 21:22:27

I am just what we can call: LOST.  :-?
Obviously, one of you is lying...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Eoj on 09/27/09 at 21:31:32

This game is going nowhere.

Can we play Simpsons Mafia next time?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by InHiding on 09/28/09 at 00:19:39

tyler i scanned you because you're not posting enough for me to make a decision. MVT, why have you been acting like a prick all game when you have that role?

Unvote

Vote howes, if Howes is town then MVT has to die the next opportunity.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Peter on 09/28/09 at 02:45:51

I don't think Howes is mafia. I agree he didn't post a lot but he stayed right in the game imo...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Honko on 09/28/09 at 04:29:32

Votals
[3] Howes - Syzygy, MVT, Tom
[1] MVT - Kmacc
[1] Kmacc - Sportsguy

Day ends in 17 hours, or when a player reaches 5 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Kmacc on 09/28/09 at 06:38:12

So I guess you guys would prefer Howes over MVT? They both are suspicious, so I guess we'll see if this is the right choice. If Howes is town, MVT is definitely mafia. If Howes is mafia, MVT is safe.

unvote

vote: Howes

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by MVT on 09/28/09 at 07:29:03

*Prays Howes is mafia*

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by MVT on 09/28/09 at 07:33:47


5C67786F623F37373F0E0 wrote:
I don't think Howes is mafia. I agree he didn't post a lot but he stayed right in the game imo...


Well that just killed Flo if Howes IS mafia

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/28/09 at 10:04:35

Innocent:

6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
13. Syzygy (Tim)

Suspect:
4. Flo
5. Howes
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)

In my opinion.  Howes dieing leaves a 1 in 3 chance of killing the final mafia member.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 4 - Off to see the hostiles?
Post by Eoj on 09/28/09 at 11:09:27

C'mon, we've got to make some progress here eventually. This game is going so effin' slow...

I'll vote for Howes only because I want to see something happen.

Vote: Howes

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Night 4
Post by Honko on 09/29/09 at 04:14:28

Howes has been lynched.  He was Benjamin Linus, MAFIA Manipulator.

You have 23 hours to send in your night actions by PM.  If you have a night action but are choosing not to use it, please send in "No action."


Final Day 4 Votals
[5] Howes - Syzygy, MVT, Tom, Kmacc, Joe

[1] Kmacc - Sportsguy
[0] MVT - (Tom), (Kmacc)


The Living
4. Flo
6. In Hiding (Tom)
7. Joe
8. Kmacc
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)
3. EnigmaticCam - Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla (Lynched D2)
9. Koopz - Mikhail Bakunin, MAFIA Bulletproof (Modkilled D3)
1. Borgeman - Jack Shephard, TOWN Mayor (Killed N3)
5. Howes - Benjamin Linus, MAFIA Manipulator (Lynched D4)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Honko on 09/30/09 at 04:10:42

Flo has been killed.  He was Claire Littleton, TOWN Vanilla.
In Hiding has been killed.  He was Kate Austen, TOWN Tracker.

The Living

7. Joe
8. Kmacc
11. MVT
12. Sportsguy (Tyler)
13. Syzygy (Tim)

The Dead
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)
3. EnigmaticCam - Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla (Lynched D2)
9. Koopz - Mikhail Bakunin, MAFIA Bulletproof (Modkilled D3)
1. Borgeman - Jack Shephard, TOWN Mayor (Killed N3)
5. Howes - Benjamin Linus, MAFIA Manipulator (Lynched D4)
4. Flo - Claire Littleton, TOWN Vanilla (Killed N4)
6. In Hiding - Kate Austen, TOWN Tracker (Killed N4)

With 5 players alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.  Day ends in 48 hours, or when a player reaches 3 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Peter on 09/30/09 at 04:19:34

The two of us died!
Our secret will be kept forever. Good luck townies, I'm sure we can trust you for the choices you'll take.
* dies.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by MVT on 09/30/09 at 06:05:12

Vote Sportsguy

Let's end this shit right now.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/30/09 at 08:24:17

You are Ana-Lucia Cortez, TOWN Cop.

Guess there is no harm role claiming now.  There is only 1 mafia left else we'd have lost already.  The only person alive who I have info on is Kmacc, who came up as innocent, so either he's town of mafia godfather  ::)  

For me it's a toss up between MVT and Tyler.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by MVT on 09/30/09 at 09:34:41

It's a toss up between ME and someone????

Are you fucking serious man?  I singlehandedly made sure Howes died.  Don't give me that shit.  If you can't see Tyler is mafia you are stupid as fuck.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by MVT on 09/30/09 at 09:53:44

If we don't lynch sportsguy I will never play another mafia game again.

If sportsguy isn't mafia someone has played the best game of all time.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/30/09 at 10:03:59

Lol, I was the one who pushed so hard for the Howes lynch, stop flattering yourself.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Eoj on 09/30/09 at 10:47:10

I personally feel like Kmacc is mafia. When Koopz went on his rant about most of the players, he had nothing but awesome things to say about Kmacc. Said something along the lines of "definitely Town in my book." I'll find the actual quote soon...

Vote: Kmacc

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Eoj on 09/30/09 at 10:49:11


212D2D3231362730420 wrote:
kmacc - almost positive he's town.  he's a consistent poster, gives good info every time, and is generally just a smart player.  i think he's been town every previous game so far, and because of this, if he were mafia in this game, something would've changed about his style of posting by now.  not gonna vote for him.

and finally

JOE - hello, under the radar anyone?  he's made what, two posts all game?  he's contributed next to nothing and he's getting away with it, and no one seems to notice or care.  definite mafia IMO, now that i'm looking at it.


Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 3 - Udders! Udders!
Post by Kmacc on 09/30/09 at 10:52:48


6B6767787B7C6D7A080 wrote:
kmacc - almost positive he's town.  he's a consistent poster, gives good info every time, and is generally just a smart player.  i think he's been town every previous game so far, and because of this, if he were mafia in this game, something would've changed about his style of posting by now.  not gonna vote for him.


There you go Joe. Koopz isn't a stupid player, so he knew that he had to pair townies with being good in case he was caught in order to make them look bad. He figured once he died, people would go to that list and check for the ones he said he trusted as town so they would be suspicious. Of course he's going to put townies on that list, because he wants townies to get voted off because of this after he dies.

As for my suspicions, they lie on MVT and Sportsguy as well. One of them is mafia. Nobody role claimed what MVT has, but his playing has still been kind of wacky at times. If MVT is the last remaining mafia member though, he would be much more dangerous than Sportsguy would be at this point in the game.

Edit: Beat me to it.

Edit2: I'll be back in like two hours or so.. Tim, who do you think would be a better choice between Sportsguy and MVT?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Eoj on 09/30/09 at 10:55:20

You've been on this MVT push for 2 days now, and I'm just not buying it. Probably mafia godfather...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Kmacc on 09/30/09 at 10:57:02

Might as well reply before I go.

I'm not pushing for MVT at all really, I would have voted for him. I just said I find him suspicious, as well as Sportsguy. I'm not sure which one I want to vote for at this point, but Sportsguy is more suspicious in my opinion.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Eoj on 09/30/09 at 11:04:16


Quote:
If MVT is the last remaining mafia member though, he would be much more dangerous than Sportsguy would be at this point in the game.


Then you just replied that Sportsguy is more suspicious.

I'm really thinking that you are the last mafia member. Let's just end this...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by MVT on 09/30/09 at 11:57:13

Well Joe we have 2 chances at mafia.  Tim , Kmacc, or Sports  

2/3 chance of town winning.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 09/30/09 at 12:13:05

Me?  I'm the fucking TOWN cop.  Kmacc showed up as innocent earlier in the game, so basically I have no idea.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by MVT on 09/30/09 at 12:14:25

Well I'm the town jack.  I have a protect ability left, and I can almost guarantee I will use it on MYSELF.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Kmacc on 09/30/09 at 12:35:13

@Joe: I know what I said.

I'm saying that Sportsguy is more suspicious than MVT is.

However, if MVT was mafia, he would be more of a threat than if Sportsguy was mafia. That's not relevant to who I think is suspicious.

That being said, we need to get this last lynch badly right now. I'm pretty sure it's Sportsguy at this point though. I'm hoping it is rather than MVT, we don't want anything screwed up to happen from this point on.

vote: Sportsguy

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/30/09 at 13:59:24

Whoa guys i'm clearly town.  I voted for Koopz before anyone knew he was mafia including Joe.  I voted for Kmacc yesterday and he is still my top suspect.

Vote Kmacc

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/30/09 at 14:01:24

I'm leaving soon and won't be back til 12 or so ET.  Don't vote me out.  I'm Pace which i said earlier if anyone doesn't remember.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by MVT on 09/30/09 at 14:03:58

hmmm

kmacc - could be playing a really good mafia game

sports - didn't vote howes

tim - claims cop but Tom pretty much was the cop it seemed to me.  

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Kmacc on 09/30/09 at 14:11:12

Tyler, you also proceeded to take out Darius and the very beginning of the game, and didn't vote for Cam or Howes.

I voted for both Cam and Howes, and would have voted for Koopz if I had been here, but I wasn't. Especially the case with Cam, for some odd reason town wasn't voting him out. It took a full 24 hours for me to finally take Tom's advice and get the ball rolling to take out Cam, otherwise he may not have even got lynched that day. This is not to take credit as credit goes for Tom for finding this out, but nobody else took initiative so I did.

And don't try to take the credit for the Koopz lynch. You just had a supposed "hunch", and stuck to it. It was Joe who confirmed Koopz as mafia with his trap, you weren't helping in any way at all to try and prove Koopz was mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Sportsguy001 on 09/30/09 at 19:20:40

It's so obvious that Kmacc is mafia.   It didn't matter that i voted for Darius on Day 1 because both of the people on the block were town and a townie was going to get eliminated anyway.

Joe set these guys straight.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by Honko on 10/01/09 at 04:10:10

Votals
[2] Sportsguy - MVT, Kmacc
[2] Kmacc - Joe, Sportsguy

Day ends in 24 hours or when a player reaches 3 votes.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia Day 5 - You guys got any milk?
Post by MVT on 10/01/09 at 06:08:45

ok lets see what happens.  We have 2 chances of getting this right.

Unvote Vote Kmacc

end the day Honko and proclaim town victory please?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Honko on 10/01/09 at 07:14:18

Kmacc has been lynched.  He was Goodwin Stanhope, MAFIA Undercover Name Cop.

The game is over!

The mafia has been eliminated.  Town wins!
Joe has survived to the end of the game.  Joe wins!

Winners
1. Borgeman (George) - Jack Shepherd, TOWN Mayor (Killed N3)
2. Darius - James "Sawyer" Ford, TOWN Miller (Lynched D1)
4. Flo - Claire Littleton, TOWN Vanilla (Killed N4)
6. In Hiding (Tom) - Kate Austen, TOWN Tracker (Killed N4)
10. Matt V - Juliet Burke, TOWN Miller Doctor (Killed N1)
11. MVT - Sayid Jarrah, TOWN Jack-of-all-Trades (survived to finish)
12. Sportsguy (Tyler) - Charlie Pace, TOWN Vanilla (survived to finish)
13. Syzygy (Tim) - Ana-Lucia Cortez, TOWN Cop (survived to finish)

7. Joe - Danielle Rousseau, INDEPENDENT Trapper/Survivor (survived to finish)

Losers
3. EnigmaticCam - Tom Friendly, MAFIA Vanilla (Lynched D2)
5. Howes - Benjamin Linus, MAFIA Manipulator (Lynched D4)
8. Kmacc - Goodwin Stanhope, MAFIA Undercover Name Cop (Lynched D5)
9. Koopz - Mikhail Bakunin, MAFIA Bulletproof (Modkilled D3)

Roles
Tim was a normal cop.
Tom was a normal tracker.
MVT had a heal, a scan, and a kill.
Matt was a normal doctor, who also would show up as guilty in scans from Tim/MVT.
Borgeman could stop 2 lynches.
Darius would show up as guilty in scans from Tim/MVT.
Sportsguy and Flo were normal townies.

Joe had a trap he could use to roleblock+kill a target if they tried to do a night action.  He could keep using it until he caught someone.  He wins if he's alive when one of the two main teams wins.

Howes had 3 abilities: roleblock, redirect, and paralyze.  Redirect would change the target of someone's action to a new target.  Paralyze would prevent someone from casting any votes the next day.
Koopz couldn't die at night from anything.
Cam was a normal mafia.

Kmacc's role had 2 parts.  At the start of the game, he didn't know who his mafia buddies were, and they didn't know who he was, although they knew a character with his role existed in the game.  They couldn't communicate with him at all.  He appeared as innocent in scans from Tim/MVT, and every night he could scan a player to learn their character's name.  At some point, the mafia could recruit him so he could talk to them and tell them about his scans.  Once that happened, he became just like a normal Mafia Vanilla, with no more scans and no more appearing innocent.

Night Actions
N1
Joe (Danielle) traps Sportsguy (Charlie).  Result: No catch.
Koopz (Mikhail) kills Matt (Juliet).
Kmacc (Goodwin) scans Sportsguy (Charlie).
Syzygy (Ana-Lucia) scans Kmacc (Goodwin).  Result: Innocent.
Tom (Kate) tracks Flo (Claire).  Result: Flo did not go anywhere.
Matt (Juliet) protects Flo (Claire).

N2
Joe (Danielle) traps Koopz (Mikhail).  Result: Catches and blocks Koopz, but does not kill him since he is Bulletproof.  Joe cannot set any more traps.
Howes (Ben) blocks Tom (Kate).
Koopz (Mikhail) kills Borgeman (Jack).  Fails because Koopz gets trapped.
Kmacc (Goodwin) scans Borgeman (Jack).
Syzygy (Ana-Lucia) scans Howes (Ben).  Result: Guilty.
Tom (Kate) tracks MVT (Sayid).  Fails because Tom gets blocked.
MVT (Sayid) scans Joe (Danielle).  Result: Innocent.

Mafia recruits Kmacc.

N3
Howes (Ben) redirects Tom (Kate) to Sportsguy.
Kmacc (Goodwin) kills Borgeman (Jack).
Syzygy (Ana-Lucia) scans Borgeman (Jack).  Result: Innocent.
Tom (Kate) tracks Howes (Ben).  Result: Sportsguy did not go anywhere.

N4
Kmacc (Goodwin) kills Tom (Kate).
Syzygy (Ana-Lucia) scans Flo (Claire).  Result: Innocent.
Tom (Kate) tracks Syzygy (Ana-Lucia).  Fails because Tom dies.
MVT (Sayid) kills Flo (Claire).

Scumboard: http://theothersarescummy.proboards.com/

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by MVT on 10/01/09 at 07:23:12

Lol I never did send a kill request to honko concerning Howes.  I was GOING TO but I couldn't get to the computer in time before the night period ended.  So I bullshitted it and said that my kill failed when in fact I never made the attempt.  It worked out though because no matter what I knew Howes was mafia and would die somehow.  

Besides that blunder I think I played ok.  Then I just used the kill on Flo because I figured he was either useless town (he was) or mafia.  

Kmacc I felt played really good.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 10/01/09 at 07:29:52

When Howes was in IRC and barely mentioned mafia on day 2, I read 3 posts and announced him and Kmacc as mafia.   :) Of course he wasn't mafia yet :p

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Matt V on 10/01/09 at 08:06:42

I'm never fucking helping Flo again.  I am the only one to defend him and he fucking suspects me. XD

MVT:  Man, I was so convinced you were Mafia, but you defended yourself very well.

Way to go town.  :D

P.S.  We really should do a Simpsons Mafia next time. XD

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by KoopZ on 10/01/09 at 08:10:50

i'm really a terrible mafia player.... but i'm not that much better as a townie i think.  in retrospect, i see how tyler caught on to me immediately, but at the same time, how some people have such good instincts (tom, ie).  its a lot easier when you're mafia to be able to phrase things a certain way to try and throw people off of you, but at the same time, its hard to avoid making similar posts throughout the games.

gj town, better luck to mafia next time.  :(

edit - kmacc for player of the game?  i think he played the best out of everyone.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by EnigmaticCam on 10/01/09 at 08:11:45

I suck as mafia. End of story  >:( You guys somehow manage to sniff me out even when I'm not here to defend myself, I'm that bad

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 10/01/09 at 08:27:04

Tyler's the player of the game again, imo. He does the most with the least.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Honko on 10/01/09 at 08:52:55

Tyler definitely had good instincts, but having votes in the right place isn't always enough.  It makes you look good, but the goal of any town is to get scum lynched, and to do that you need more than just your own vote.  He never would have convinced enough people to lynch Koopz or Kmacc on his own the way he was posting, he needed Joe's help both times.  I'd put Joe as the town MVP even though he wasn't technically town, since he's the one who made sure shit got done.  It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Joe had chosen to try to win with the mafia instead, although there would have been a higher chance of himself getting killed or lynched if he did so.

Or we could make Matt the town MVP for claiming Doctor on Day 1 for absolutely no reason.  That's equally impressive.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Matt V on 10/01/09 at 08:58:30

It wasn't for no reason.  I was gonna get my ass lynched. XD

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by MVT on 10/01/09 at 09:00:05

Yes Simpson's mafia next please!   :D

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Kmacc on 10/01/09 at 09:03:13

Damn, good game guys.

It really sucks to come somewhat close like this only to get lynched when I made virtually no mistakes throughout the entire game. Even the votes on me weren't because of mistakes.

Tyler voted me basically cause I was being a "good ole townie".
Joe voted me because of mistake Koopz made technically, although he may have had other reasons behind it.
MVT voted me just to end the day. :(

It also doesn't help when 2/3 of my teammates are either dead or caught and about to die before I even get to talk to them. >_>

To be honest, my only real error was probably killing George off that soon. But I can't really fully blame this on myself as much as my lack of knowledge. After I found out George's character, I looked it up on Wikipedia. Wikipedia says that guy is the main character and all of that, so I assumed that meant he was jack-of-all-trades. Other than that, I honestly don't think I made an error.

And damn at Joe being third party trapper. I wanted to role claim town roleblocker so badly, but I figured Joe was a one-shot roleblocker or something.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by MVT on 10/01/09 at 09:06:47

Kmacc you played well.

It sucks to be so close to winning.  I still remember how epic it would have been to have won star wars mafia by myself.  All I needed to win was 1 more town lynch but I couldn't get it.  I was usurper that game too so if I made it to the end all the other mafia would have lost and only I would have won... [smiley=bath.gif]

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Kmacc on 10/01/09 at 09:31:23

Haha, I remember that. I remember watching the thread after I had gotten nightkilled, and yelling at the computer calling everyone idiots for taking so long to vote you out. It was so obvious that you were mafia.  ;D

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by KoopZ on 10/01/09 at 09:32:04

yeah, looking back at my lynch and now knowing the power role that joe had, i should've kept defending myself, no matter what.  at the time though, i just didnt know what to say in order to defend myself.  even now, i still dont really know what i would've said.

i still look forward to the game where tom is mafia.  he either gets a mafia win or he's lynched day 1 cuz he's not screaming that he's town from the get-go.  ::)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Peter on 10/01/09 at 10:37:05


Quote:
Tom (Kate) tracks Flo (Claire).  Result: Flo did not go anywhere.

That was me and Tom's secret  ;)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Peter on 10/01/09 at 10:42:58


68434458452A0 wrote:
Tyler definitely had good instincts, but having votes in the right place isn't always enough.

I think Tom was still as lucky as usual voting randomly for Cam and finding he was actually a mafia member though he hadn't even scanned him once!!!!  :o

And btw,

Quote:
MVT (Sayid) kills Flo (Claire).

Why did you kill me!!!!!!  :'(
I was a towny and I would have told to all of you why Tom was so sure about that if I was suspected or if votes came against me.  [smiley=chairshot.gif]
You played very badly MVT. You deserve the price of the worst towny player.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Eoj on 10/01/09 at 11:15:44

I was actually kind of surprised to see you give up so easily, Koopz. I mean, from your post that you made, I knew that you and Kmacc were mafia together, but it's really only because of that single post, and how Kmacc was insisting that MVT was high on his "list," even though I was damn sure that MVT wasn't mafia. Once I trapped you, I knew for sure that you were mafia, and Kmacc's reactions sealed the deal for me...

All in all, I think the town did a really good job. Like Robin said, if I had chosen to be on the mafia's side (which I was really debating with myself at the beginning of the game to do), I would have been pretty suspect from the get go because of my lack of participation. I was feeling the game out to see what I wanted to do, and once Koopz called me out, I felt like I had to defend myself...

Kmacc played a good game, but he kept pushing for an MVT lynch for 2 days, so that did it for me. Tyler threw in votes randomly for the eventual mafia members (either by luck or skill), so I knew he wasn't mafia, so when it came down to Tim or Kmacc, it had to be him.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by MVT on 10/01/09 at 11:30:22

i dont think i played that bad flo.  I certainly wasn't lost at any point.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Cambridge MKDS TT champ on 10/01/09 at 11:30:55

I actually played quite shit this game given my role, and had no idea on day 5, hence not really posting.  Go town!  [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Borgeman on 10/01/09 at 19:10:34

i was hunted early it seems, i guess once they knew i was mayor htey thought i had some strong power - stopping two lynches doesnt really do much tbh, the only one i debated  was day 1

but we won  [smiley=bath.gif] yeah

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by AHowes on 10/01/09 at 19:56:50

We didn't actually know what you were, we just knew you were Jack Shepherd, and kind of assumed you would be the jack-of-all-trades.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Borgeman on 10/01/09 at 20:14:38

lol ok... yeh i was a bit underwhelmned when i saw what role the #1 guy of lost had been assigned

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 10/01/09 at 21:59:26

Why can the mafia never win?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Borgeman on 10/01/09 at 22:47:05

cause no one realises that you cant always try and defend your mafia mates if there is heat on

George

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by InHiding on 10/02/09 at 00:18:10

has anyone else apart from me got a 100% record? i.e has always been town?

I've been the scanner twice now and I like my style. I get the opportunity to throw the game into disarray but giving me knowledge.

I.e. I scanned flo and realised he was ok.. so i thought well, thats a waste. I have the opportunity to now accuse anyone i want and put the heat on them. Its risky but i think the more town roleclaim and open up the easier it is to put pressure on those not claiming etc. Not everyone will appreciate that but hey.

Worst comes to the worse I can always stipulate I was lying (had cam been innocent) because so what if i lied, i had my reasons and yet no one would counter role claim.

I dont understand why the mafia dont take more chances...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Darius on 10/02/09 at 01:12:57

The mafia are just too cautious and obvious when they're bussing. They should play more like they do when they're town and forget they're on the same side. Best post of the game was Tim's dismantling of Howes. Maybe I shouldn't have claimed miller early but with two investigative roles I think it was the right call. I really was just trying a gambit with voting for Tim to see who jumped on but obviously people took it the wrong way. Anyway, well played town, another easy win  :)

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Matt V on 10/02/09 at 05:50:21

I'm still pissed at Flo.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 10/02/09 at 07:36:18

Tom, there are several people who have never played on the dark side...myself included.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Peter on 10/02/09 at 07:43:20


09331428213401072F2F241428292E27400 wrote:
Why can the mafia never win?

Haha! That's a good question but I think you should add at the end of your sentence: "... in this forum?"
Because I now some games I was in where mafia won. (maybe 2 or 3 games like that.
Btw,  I was mafia at the first one  [smiley=lolk.gif]. I hosted the 2 others.  ;)


Quote:
I'm still pissed at Flo.

Why?

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Peter on 10/02/09 at 07:46:26


5160696951646960050 wrote:
i dont think i played that bad flo.  I certainly wasn't lost at any point.

You played very bad since the beginning. Accusing someone (revealing innocent) randomly at the very beginning was really a bad thing to do.
And killing a towny (me) at the end! Wtf!?!

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by MVT on 10/02/09 at 08:49:13

there was no harm in killing you.  One less nuisance that could have easily been mafia.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Darkmeta on 10/02/09 at 08:53:49

Nuisance! >:( You consider me as a nuisance? You suck man really. <___<
I think the nuisance between us 2 is rather you than me. ;(

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by MVT on 10/02/09 at 09:42:22

Lol you are so easy to make emotional.  Learn to play the game dude!!!!!   :-*

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Matt V on 10/02/09 at 18:27:36

Flo I'm pissed because I defended you Day 1, and you said you thought I was fuckin' Mafia.  Then I even use my protect on you Night 1, since if I didn't get lynched, you would.

Way to not trust me.  :(

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Professor Leyton on 10/02/09 at 23:54:16

Oh, I'm sorry Matt  :-[
But I couldn't know if you were or weren't mafia. Btw, before Tom told me that he scanned me, I thought he was mafia too. I was totally wrong. But, btw, how could you be so sure that I was not mafia?

@ MVT, LOL! I think I played this game more than you have ever. So I think you should learn how to play the game. I can teach you if you want because it seems you really need to.
Trust me, you played like shit and many people here believes this too.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Honko on 10/03/09 at 01:50:27

Looks like we need a 1v1 to decide this.

MVT, you are TOWN Bulletproof Vigilante.
Flo, you are MAFIA Bulletproof.

Go.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Darius on 10/03/09 at 01:54:49

Vote: Flo

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Professor Leyton on 10/03/09 at 02:20:26

Honko. 2 possibilities for this.
1st:
Flo: Good and intelligent player.
MVT: bad sucker player.

Both town but one has to die. It's the one who played the best game without accusing since the beginning one of his town "friend" for no reason. The good one is the one who doesn't kee saying Tom is suspicious after he told his town role... <___<
Ok, you want some quotes to proove that I'm right?

5E4245474B594D521B2A0 wrote:
MVT, why have you been acting like a prick all game when you have that role?


7F79757777140 wrote:
and I feel MVT is either showing signs that he is mafia or is just being confusing.


7F79757777140 wrote:
and I feel MVT is either showing signs that he is mafia or is just being confusing.


766A6D6F6371657A33020 wrote:
Flo is not mafia

Then, why did you kill me at the end?  :-?
etc...

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Professor Leyton on 10/03/09 at 02:22:26

2nd:


664D4A564B240 wrote:
Looks like we need a 1v1 to decide this.

MVT, you are TOWN Bulletproof Vigilante.
Flo, you are MAFIA Bulletproof.

Go.

Ok. Night starts.











Night is over Day starts again.
MVT has been killed. He was town bulletliar.
Mafia goods win.
End of the game.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by MVT on 10/03/09 at 05:37:29

mafia goods win

lol [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by KoopZ on 10/03/09 at 16:41:37

flo, i think MVT is a pretty good player.  he is very good at manipulating people.  did you not read the end of the Star Wars Mafia game?  i think if it werent for Scott in that game, he would've persuaded people to go his way and he would've won.  dont go bashing him so quickly.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 10/03/09 at 17:03:58

Yeah, MVT's pretty convincing and when he increases his post volume he can make every player feel targeted by his comments, which helps him manipulate more.  He's almost always done a fine job.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Etch on 10/03/09 at 17:05:00


24383F3D3123372861500 wrote:
has anyone else apart from me got a 100% record? i.e has always been town?

I dont understand why the mafia dont take more chances...


I have always been town and won.

As for mafia screwing up...

1. Inactive Players - hurts mafia more than it does town
2. Stupid Players - when a mafia makes a bad move it decreases their chance of winning immensely
3. Night Actions - mafia has to seriously rethink some strats

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by Professor Leyton on 10/04/09 at 05:41:10


575B5B4447405146340 wrote:
flo, i think MVT is a pretty good player.  he is very good at manipulating people.  did you not read the end of the Star Wars Mafia game?  i think if it werent for Scott in that game, he would've persuaded people to go his way and he would've won.  dont go bashing him so quickly.

I agree. He would have been a very good player IF HE WAS MAFIA. He might have won if he was mafia but he was not. And usually, townies don't play like this in a game such as this one, otherwise, they are considered as suspicious and may get lynched.

Title: Re: LOST Mafia - Game Over
Post by KoopZ on 10/04/09 at 07:12:41

thats just how he plays though.  everyone's got their own style, and surely you can respect that.  town or mafia, MVT is good with the way he plays.  he even acknowledges that the way he plays is always suspicious no matter what, but he still takes it and runs with it.  that takes balls and a VERY good way with words, and for that i respect his playing style.

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