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https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl General >> Mafia >> Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuff https://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1238288766 Message started by Honko on 03/28/09 at 17:06:06 |
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Title: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuff Post by Honko on 03/28/09 at 17:06:06 Welcome to Pokemafia 1.0! HANDY LINK WITH POST COUNTS AND VOTE SUMMARIES BY SHADOW: http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi It's mafia. You know the drill by now. If you're confused about the game, talk to me by PM or on IRC, MSN, or AIM. I'll explain as best as I can. I'M NOT DEAD 9) Ivootjes - never dyin' - MR.MIME, Town JACK-OF-ALL-TRADES-EXCEPT-KILLING-LOL-PWNED 16) Pobre - never dyin' - JIGGLYPUFF, Town OBVROLEBLOCKER 19) Syzygy - never dyin' - SNORLAX, Town BULLETPROOF FATTY McFATGUY Pretty Dead 7) Howes - Lynched Day 1 - MEOWTH, Mafia GODFATHER 11) Kmacc - Killed Night 1 - ABRA, Town COP 10) karterfreak - Lynched Day 2 - ZUBAT, Mafia GOON 4) Extol - Killed Night 2 - DIGLETT, Town HIDER 6) Goose - Killed Night 2 - LAPRAS, Town MAYOR 12) Koopz - Killed Night 2 - CHANSEY, Town HEALER 13) Lenny - Killed Night 2 - GROWLITHE, Town TRACKER 2) EnigmaticCam - Lynched Day 3 - EKANS, Mafia ROLEBLOCKER 1) Darius - Killed Night 3 - MACHOP, Mafia ASSASSIN 18) Sword - Killed Night 3 - AERODACTYL, Town VIGILANTE 5) Fababu - Modkilled Day 4 - HITMONCHAN, Town ELITE BODYGUARD 8) In Hiding - Lynched Day 4 - VOLTORB, Town BOMB 15) Padzup - Explodified Day 4 - CHARMANDER, Town VANILLA 3) Etch - Killed Night 4 - SQUIRTLE, Town VANILLA 14) MVT - Killed Night 4 - PIKACHU, Town RECRUITING MASON 17) Sportsguy - Lynched Day 5 - KOFFING, Mafia POISONER Dead Is Dead 0) Honko - NIDOKING, Town AWESOME GUY 54) Puzdap - VANILLOLOL RULES - read these carefully so you don't get modkilled or replaced 1) Do not delete posts. Do not delete your own, and mods do not delete other people's. Deleting posts takes away from the integrity of the game. 2) Do not edit posts either, for the same reason. You may edit your own posts during the 10-15 minute window after you post ONLY TO ADD STUFF OR FIX TYPOS. Don't remove info from your posts, and don't let the "Last modified by:" mark show up. 3) Don't post something really offensive to try to bait mods in the game to delete it and get modkilled. Duh. 4) Do not discuss the game outside of this thread unless your role specifically permits it. Keep the game fair, keep the discussion in here. 5) Do not post any content if you are dead or a spectator. If you aren't in the game, let the people who are continue to play it without others influencing their actions. 6) Do not quote or post screenshots of a PM or conversation from me about the game. Convince people with your own words, not mine. 7) If you think I made a mistake, tell me in private. You're probably wrong - I'm pretty careful and there are a plenty of roles that could contradict what you think happened. Pointing out that you think I made a mistake in the topic will probably reveal more than you want to. 8) Be active and play to win. Playing poorly because you suck is fine, but sabotaging your team deliberately or disappearing completely are unacceptable. If you're going to be gone for a few days, let me know beforehand. 9) Don't try to cheat or break the game in any way. 10) gl hf ds ka. If you don't play Starcraft with 12 year olds, that means "good luck have fun don't suck kick ass". Remember, you win if your team wins, even if you're dead by then, so go all out for the victory! A couple notes about this game. It's a closed game, so you don't know any of the roles other than your own. One thing you DO know (because I'm telling you right now) is that no two people have the same Pokemon. Two people may have the same ROLE (eg Doctor), but if you're Wobbuffet and someone else saying they're Wobbuffet too, they are lying. All players have been given unevolved original RBY Pokemon for their roles at the start of the game. Except for me, I'm fucking Nidoking. Here's a handy list of those possible Pokemon for your convenience. http://users.csc.calpoly.edu/~rjusher/pokemon.txt All night actions happen at the same time. This means that even if you are killed, your night action still happens. Vote like this: Vote: Honko. It must be in bold. If you want to change your vote, you MUST Unvote first. A player is lynched when they have the majority of the players' votes, or when they have the most votes and the day's deadline is reached. If there is a tie for most votes at the deadline, the most recent "leader" is lynched. If you have any questions, ask. One day Toad was bored so he threw a turnip at Pokemon World. The impact was so powerful that all the people and most of the Pokemon died. Only 20 Pokemon were left. The 20 who were left were sad, and they decided to travel together to Toad Castle to convince Toad to bring the dead guys back to life. Good plan! They started their journey. Unfortunately some of the 20 Pokemon were EVIL. They didn't want Toad to resurrect the dead, because they wanted to dominate the world themselves! These evil Pokemon began killing the others at night. Starting with the strongest... Honko has been killed. He was NIDOKING, Town AWESOME GUY. In the morning the 19 remaining Pokemon realized they had a problem. They would never make it to Toad Castle if they died each night. They decided to vote among themselves for one suspicious person to kill each day to protect the future of Pokemon everywhere. Thus Pokemafia begins... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/28/09 at 17:15:10 I don't have my role yet, but i think tom's gut is suspicous. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/28/09 at 17:26:15 Pretty bad story Honko. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/28/09 at 17:28:08 kmacc is mafia this time, i can feel it in my bones! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/28/09 at 17:31:47 Best story ever. All roles are out now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/28/09 at 17:36:28 Personal guesses for roles: 1x doctor 1x cop 1x roleblocker 1x ditto (can copy a role at night) maybe 1x bomb 1-2x other roles 5-8x normal townies 1x mafia roleblocker 3x normal mafia 1-2x other mafia role and if Robin is really cruel, he threw in some random serial killer. Haven't actually looked at my PM yet, and probably won't until tomorrow. It makes it more interesting this way. (Harder to give myself away on the off chance that I'm mafia/power role) Nobody should claim roles unless they are about to be lynched (at least today) random vote: EnigmaticCam in case you are going to die tonight ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/28/09 at 17:37:57 suggestion of ditto is oddly specific. don't tell me you just outed yourself howes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/28/09 at 17:40:19 Honko, are you gonna edit your post and write in all the roles? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/28/09 at 17:41:16 No. It's a closed game. The roles are secret. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/28/09 at 17:47:36 Oh ok :/ Weird. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/28/09 at 17:50:39 Honko, can you create a link for the amount of posts and vote information like last game |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/28/09 at 17:53:43 1021243A3530400 wrote:
Howes is an experience player, he wouldn't reveal is role on the first day. I don't know many pokemon, but ditto seems like it would make the game more interesting. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/28/09 at 17:53:50 I would think that ditto would be fairly obvious, kind of like the mario role in mario kart x mafia, except you don't know what you're copying. I honestly have no clue what role I have right now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/28/09 at 17:54:20 http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi All thanks to Shadow as usual. Send him flowers and shoes. I'll put this in the first post as well. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Lenny on 03/28/09 at 17:58:14 Yeah that's why I started an open game beforehand. Anyway, I should tell you guys, I'm not gonna be here for the next three days, as I mentioned before, so I'm probably going to have to make a vote soon and stick with it. Please don't lynch me for it, I'll be back on Wednesday. Now. There are 19 of us, so I'm going to guess there are 3 or 4 mafia. It seems logical. This setup is difficult to play, but I'm sure we'll get through it. No info yet, so I'll probably have to vote sometime later today. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/28/09 at 18:05:45 Ok well, looking through the list of pokemon... These are a few which stick out. Diglett - Dig? Abra - or an evolution, gotta be some psychics doing something here. Machamp - Town's killer? Golem - Some sort of bodyguard? Muk - "Swallower" Gengar - deffo mafia role. Koffing - possible mafia role. Chansey - Town doctor. Magikarp or gyarados - they would just be in here. Ditto - as Howes said, an obvious choice. An Eeveelution. Aerodactyl - possible mafia member. Snorlax - Bodyguard? Possibly some legends. Other than that dunno what Honko would choose x] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/28/09 at 18:06:53 3935203C3935332127646763540 wrote:
I thought everyone got their role PMs already. :-/ And Sportsguy maybe he's pretending to out himself so everyone will think he's a town who slipped up. But I guess Ditto wouldn't break the game too badly so I could see it being possible. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/28/09 at 18:08:19 No evolutions in this game, syzygy, so no Gengar, machamp, eeveelution, or others. Padzup, I haven't looked at my role PM for tactical reasons. I see no downside at the moment, if I don't know my role, I can't give anything away, but I'll look at it before the end of Day 1. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/28/09 at 18:08:30 Tim it's first-form Pokemon only so half of the ones you suggested would have to become their lower forms. I think Scyther is a pretty obvious choice for town vig. e: oh. well i could see that as leverage in that you could pull 'oh well i didnt know my role when i said that'. seems sorta risky but all it means is that we'll see how your attitude toward the game changes once you read your pm :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/28/09 at 18:10:05 Oh right. Maybe I should read Honko's 1st post -___- Lol @ whoever got magikarp. Honko has been killed. He was NIDOKING, Town AWESOME GUY |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/28/09 at 18:13:11 Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/28/09 at 18:14:06 I thought about Ditto as well, so I really don't think it means that Jack is ditto. It's just a pretty normal assumption given the utilized Pokemon. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/28/09 at 19:13:55 I was thinking there might be a sleep ability for Pokemon like Drowzee, which could be a roleblocker that sends the target to sleep at night so they can't perform night actions. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/28/09 at 19:16:14 Well, this game should be interesting with the closed roles. Its gonna suck for us though trying to figure out whether someone is lying or not about their roles. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/28/09 at 19:27:03 Sweet, finally started! Padzup still thinks I'm mafia no matter what lol. Can't say he's a cunt this time though. :( I would say it's 15 town vs. 4 mafia or 14 town vs. 5 mafia, those would seem to be the best ratios. Being that Honko picked all people are going to be active and such, we can't just lynch someone who is useless, so we have to actually think day 1 more so than we ever have. I guess throwing some random votes around now doesn't hurt for now, it's the only start we have towards getting any info. vote: Etch What do you got to say Etch? :-* |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/28/09 at 19:28:49 Vote: Goose You are mafia right? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/28/09 at 19:54:44 Goose and Kmacc are both Mafia. Padzup is a possibility. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/28/09 at 19:59:00 oh yeah; your also a possibility mvt. fuck i feel paranoid just playing this shit. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/28/09 at 20:05:14 Kmacc is Dominatrix, duh vote: EnigmaticCam no wait, he'll get killed the first night anyway. unvote but what if hes mafia? vote: EnigmaticCam it will be interesting to see all the roles as they are revealed when the people get lynched or killed. well, mafia roles anyway, cause i dont want to see any town to be killed. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/28/09 at 20:16:12 I just realized that I spoke to much; and that I'm going to get killed first night. Take this list with a grain of salt if you feel like it. 1) Darius - Town 2) EnigmaticCam - Town 3) Etch - Mafia 4) Extol - Mafia/Town 5) Fababu - Town 6) Goose - Mafia 7) Howes - Town 8) In Hiding - Town 9) Ivootjes - Town 10) karterfreak - Town 11) Kmacc - Mafia, Definitely. 12) Koopz - Town 13) Lenny - Town 14) MVT - Mafia/Town 15) Padzup - Mafia/Town 16) Pobre - Town 17) Sportsguy - Town 18) Sword - Town 19) Syzygy - Town |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/28/09 at 20:45:05 Lol pobre, how can you possibly make a list of what everyone is when half the people have yet to speak? Give it more time than that, you can't just say someone is mafia for random reasons that don't even make sense, or no reason at all. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/28/09 at 20:50:29 Because Goose's first post leans towards mafia, and you are mafia; so tushay. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/28/09 at 21:30:47 5355595B5B380 wrote:
Yeah only I'm allowed to do that 8-) But I guess I'll humour you Pobre, what exactly makes me suspect? Also to everyone: I think we should stop guessing roles until night actions have actually occurred, else we're just going to go in circles which is pointless. Like Kmacc said most people aren't going to be useless this time around so we should concentrate on making the right choice and especially on not panicking at the end of the day. Hopefully that won't happen since Scott isn't playing. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/28/09 at 22:04:32 I forgot scott's not in this game, i was wondering why he didnt have 50 posts already :P anyway, i agree with padzup, we shouldnt guess everybody's roles, and we should play smart, which will be easier than the last games because there will hopefully be less spam so we wont get thrown off. starting off, i think we just have to be patient for now, nothings really happened yet that i know of that would reveal anything, so we just have to wait and get participation from everybody until we start the accusations and whatnot. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Etch on 03/28/09 at 22:11:46 696F636161020 wrote:
Haha, this started already? My usual stuff, doomed to be a non-power townie. ;D I got to much love to throw a vote at you this time. ^^ Unless we got a good hunch lynch the bastard, otherwise kill people who are not helping town. Too early to deduce any shit for now, guess work at best. Without knowing the roles, town should be more cautious in who we decide to kill. Wouldn't be the first time we kill off innocent players. ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/28/09 at 23:12:58 Vote count update - I missed doing these 2 - Goose (Pobre, MVT) 2 - EnigmaticCam (Howes, Extol) 1 - Etch (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 66 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/29/09 at 00:43:32 Yeah, the game has started finally. With the unknown roles the game will be harder, so it will be harder to decided who to vote. Good luck everyone. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/29/09 at 02:18:06 Cam, Tom, Ivo, Cooper and Sword are the players who haven't said anything so far. Vote: Sword Are you going to be better at convincing me that you're town this time? :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/29/09 at 03:02:31 Vote: Darius You seem to be good with words Darius and noone seemed to supect you last game. What about this time? x] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/29/09 at 03:51:41 Helping town win is the aim and I thought I was pretty good at that last time. As far as I was concerned, convincing people that I'm pro town was one of the most important ways to help town win. As I'm town again, that's exactly how I'm going to play this time, although I'm not the paranoid gun owner so I don't have to worry about killing town power roles but I do have to worry about the mafia killing me at night. I think the mafia are going to have their eyes on me anyway after last game so I'm not going to bother trying to be quiet instead of playing the way I did last time because then they'll just think I'm a town power role trying to avoid attention. What about you, Tim? You played a good game as Mario the first time and then flew under the radar for most of last game until the Honko lynch train. If you're quiet again people might start suspecting you; how are you going to convince us that you're town? On this general topic of previous games, I think focusing too much on how people have played before could be dangerous if we start basing all our assumptions on it but it'll still be useful if we use what we know about people carefully. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/29/09 at 05:19:21 I don't think goose is mafia, but i could be wrong. The last game he played he was mafia and he was extremely active. This game so far, not so much. Maybe he isn't posting much because he was killed early in his previous game. I need more information on goose, but as of now i don't think he is mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 06:30:24 002F2C2C382F330D4A0 wrote:
If you say that Goose is definitely mafia, and I voted for him, than how am I mafia? :-? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/29/09 at 08:17:47 This is going pretty slowly. None of the people I mentioned have spoken up yet either. Days are only 72 hours, we need to get more information in if we're going to win this, town! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 08:43:16 It's still going to be hard to come up with ideas even when they do talk for the first time, it'll take more than the first 24 hours to come up with a solid idea of a mafia if you can even do that in day 1. After what happened last game, people are going to be a lot more careful with their posts. So we're going to need everyone active a good amount and hope a mafia member slips up for talking too much, but we need everyone to post first. If they don't post much to stay under the radar, and we have no solid ideas, that person has a good possibility of getting lynched. As Etch said, if they are useless to the town then we lynch them. So they'll either be mafia or useless. And for now: unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 09:01:34 1021243A3530400 wrote:
But I guess I'll humour you Pobre, what exactly makes me suspect?[/quote]You said you knew Kmacc was mafia, only another mafia member would know that. Besides; your attempt at coming off as an "eager" townie seems 3rd rate; and you don't seem to be defending yourself as a townie; but from being deemed mafia. 6F5E57576F5A575E3B0 wrote:
If you say that Goose is definitely mafia, and I voted for him, than how am I mafia? :-?[/quote]I would suspect that it is a good strategy to kill off a fellow mafia member in order to get attention off your back; but alas; you are only suspect at this point. I'm sticking with my vote; whether goose is mafia or town he's to dangerous to be left alive. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 09:07:40 these are just wild guesses for rolls; Squirtle; probably useless; dosn't do anything. Missingno: Probably has some duplicating ability. Jigglypuff: Probably puts people to sleep. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/29/09 at 09:17:10 hi everyone, sorry for being late, i've been away for the weekend. Will upload the pics to my facebook later. closed game means we dont know eachothers roles? does that mean I cannot admit mine (if i have one)? either way, poke-town i'm not poke-mafia so do not vote for me. Let them try to vote me out and see what happens :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 09:28:34 Tom, we're allowed to admit our roles. The thing is that nobody else will know if that role is a real one or not, therefore making it harder to believe people who do admit to a role. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/29/09 at 09:34:28 67484B4B5F48546A2D0 wrote:
I realize I'm town on this list, but why are you even making assumptions at all the mafia and town this early in? Some of the people haven't even posted yet, so we'd be better of waiting until everyone has posted, and getting information out of them. Right now I wouldn't put this past as a mafia slipup, considering pobre has never played this game before. For all we know he could have put all his mafia buddies as town. Vote: Pobre I think Pobre needs to explain why 1. He thinks he's going to get killed, and 2. why he thinks he has a good opinion on everyones roles already. If Pobre ends up being mafia, I think we should check the people on his list that are town. If Pobre is town though, then we should probably disregard the list entirely, as it has no basis of information besides Pobre's opinion. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 09:40:12 Contrary to popular belief; I think that the very first post play a hugely important role in finding out who is mafia and who isn't. The time at which the game started was very weird as well. I've already gave my explanations as to who I think are mafia and who isn't; I'm not a patient person; I want to get down to business because I'm almost certain that I'm getting murked first night because I have faith in my ability to read people. You speak of opinions as if it's something to be taken lightly; as townies; that's all we have to work with. But with your current post; you're ether a townie; or playing a very good mafia game. :P But if you want a brutally honest answer as to why I made that list; it's quite simple; never played this game before, and I got anxious. :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 09:42:19 And perhaps you're taking the focus off yourself because my wild guess at mafia members was probably spot-on, or at least close. [smiley=engel017.gif] And as to why I got a good guess at peoples roles? perhaps my role permits me to know all the roles. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/29/09 at 09:50:53 I think I know honko well enough that he wouldn't that much of an overpowered role in a mafia game, even under closed settings. Would be nice for us though. And to be honest, the list could very well be correct, you just don't have any basis of evidence for the people you're accusing. At least have some evidence beforehand. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 10:28:47 Pobre is only in this game to get to 10000 posts as quick as possible. He's basically the new Brutus. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 10:29:34 I already have 10k dipface. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 10:34:37 So do I. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/29/09 at 10:39:48 Pobre had 10k posts a long time ago, hes in it to win it as far as i can tell. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/29/09 at 11:15:32 People who still haven't talked: Ivootjes, Koopz, Sword, EnigmaticCam. EnigmaticCam hasn't been online in almost a week, Koopz hasn't been on since an hour before the game started, Ivootjes hasn't been online since yesterday morning. Sword has no such excuse. Why aren't you posting? unvote Vote Sword |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 11:17:47 Voting sword because he hasn't said anything carries no weight. We should all vote against goose. get him out of the game early. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/29/09 at 11:25:20 Pobre, it isn't intended to have much weight, it's intended to get him to speak. If I wanted weight, I probably would have voted for you, as you are making unfounded statements, and claiming a role that clearly doesn't exist. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 11:29:18 Well; you're definitely on my list of townies. I don't know for a fact that Goose is mafia; but then again; how would anyone know for a fact? It's simply a nudge I can't get off my back. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/29/09 at 11:50:07 woo, game has finally started. sorry i havent posted, yesterday was my buddy's birthday, and i've been out with him all nite and didnt get to the board again til now. time to see if i can actually play this game!!! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 12:03:02 unvote Vote: Sword I know he is online because he has been in irc all day and some last night too. Why he hasn't posted is anyone's guess. Maybe he thinks he can just sit around and no one will notice, or glide by like Nstinson (although he was town) and fababu (was mafia) did last mafia game. Whatever the case, their is no reason not to speak at all. I remember he criticized people last game for not posting and look at this. If he is town, he has no interest in the game. If he is mafia, than it is an easy kill. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 12:06:51 Vote Count Sword (3) - MVT, Darius, Howes Goose (1) - Time Darius (1) - Syzygy Time (1) - karterfreak EnigmaticCam (1) - Extol |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 12:07:30 Cooper is drunk. The Town Drunk maybe? Which Pokemon was like that? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 12:13:37 2C2035292C20263432717276410 wrote:
The bolded part makes me think this is a cover up for him being mafia. I could be wrong, but I'm going to vote for howes. Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/29/09 at 12:20:11 Goose, you are wrong in your thinking. I hadn't looked at my PM yet at that point as part of a strategy that I thought of during the last game. I have looked at it since then based on evidence that it could hurt more than help me, but at the time, I had no clue what role I was, or what side I was on. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/29/09 at 12:21:48 I asked Sword on IRC why he wasn't posting and he didn't know the game had started. His internet is pretty shite so it takes a while to load. Edit: Unvote Thanks for the response Darius, just read it. As for me, last game I'm surprised I lasted because I was fucking around not really doing anything and someone wasn't suspected. I wasn't taking it that seriously because I thought we had lost after day 2. As a townie I should be more active and involved as you saw in the previous mafia game hosted by Honko (where I was Mario). Edit 2: Bolded my unvote. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/29/09 at 12:26:55 0623302B3731420 wrote:
Tim was more obvious than Flo :-/ 5B74777763746856110 wrote:
But I guess I'll humour you Pobre, what exactly makes me suspect?[/quote]You said you knew Kmacc was mafia, only another mafia member would know that. Besides; your attempt at coming off as an "eager" townie seems 3rd rate; and you don't seem to be defending yourself as a townie; but from being deemed mafia.[/quote] I am the opposite of eager ::) I fail to see how accusing Kmacc of being mafia indicates that. What is there that I can use to defend myself as a townie? Every action anyone makes can be seen as mafia trying to trick everyone into thinking they're acting a certain way so they must be town. Darius also said that we shouldn't fall into that trap. Seems like you're the one deflecting questions since you answered my question by saying that it sucked ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 12:32:29 6E62776B6E62647670333034030 wrote:
Wrong in my thinking... wrong in my thinking, but not wrong in my prediction. You're pretty obviously mafia now given your careful usage of words. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/29/09 at 12:44:41 Reasoning behind the words: you *thought* I was mafia, therefore, I figured that thinking applied quite nicely. I also thought that it sounded better than just saying that you were wrong. I'm too lazy to think up every possible way that my words can be interpreted right now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/29/09 at 12:48:45 Laziness isn't a good excuse, although it applied to me hugely in the last game haha. Might as well make an effort if you really are innocent. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/29/09 at 12:51:16 I dont think Howes is mafia, the not looking at your PM strat i think is pretty good, cause you have no way to say anything suspicious if you dont know youre mafia. i think it would probably be a good technique to not look at your role until night one, or until some heat is out on you, but thats in the past, im pretty sure everyone has seen their role now. i think that might be something for future games. anyway, back to Howes, he said he has looked at his PM since then and i still dont see anything suspicious in his latter posts, so that leads me to believe he's town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 12:57:56 Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 13:00:51 5F5556554B552C0 wrote:
I don't buy that excuse whatsoever. He has good enough internet to play mkwii wifi, chat on irc all day, and post multiple times on the board. He posted 6 times on the forums on 3/27/09. It is a bullshit excuse that only can be contributed to lazyness. If he really wanted to he could post here. As for the loading thing, it must have worked well enough for him to log in at 1:01 P.M. today and at least see the topic... Not to be pushy but any players town or mafia who are not interested in the game, we should eliminate quickly. They end up being a pain in the ass later. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 13:02:06 MVT; you are just mad at sword because he started shit with you the other day. Maybe you're using these emotions of hatred to make realistic post? MVT; are you mafia? give me a detailed description why you are not if you are not; if you are mafia, don't say anything. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 13:07:28 4 minutes and counting, mvt; how long are you gonna take to reply? can a mod confirm if he is looking at this topic or not? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/29/09 at 13:13:01 7F4E47477F4A474E2B0 wrote:
[21:17] <Jawz> Sword you are mafia [21:17] <Sword> Did that game start? [21:17] <Jawz> Yep [21:17] <Sword> Oh [21:17] <Jawz> You've got 3 votes on you already [21:17] <Sword> I might drop from it [21:18] <Thino> lol [21:18] <Jawz> Because "there is no excuse why you aren't talking" [21:18] <Jawz> No don't [21:18] <Jawz> Well [21:18] <Jawz> Ask for a modkill [21:18] <calibur> ffs, im gonna have to drop [21:18] <Jawz> If you don't want to [21:18] <Sword> The forum never fucking loads for me and I get blamed for it [21:18] <Sword> What a bunch of pricks [21:18] <Jawz> looool [21:18] <Jawz> If you like I can post this in the thread I was Jawz ^ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 13:13:12 12 minutes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/29/09 at 13:14:50 Vote count update [3] Sword - Darius, Howes, MVT [2] Howes - Goose, Pobre [1] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), Extol [1] Pobre - karterfreak [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 52 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 13:27:47 46696A6A7E69754B0C0 wrote:
For god sake I cant even take a shit lol. Why am I not mafia, hmmmm Well for starters I will be the first to admit that I am a reject role aka useless needledick. It kind of sucks but oh well. I hopefully will be able to help the town out though while I live. If you would like me to help the town than keep me alive. If you want to start off the game by killing a innocent townie than go ahead and vote for me. I have no power unlike last game, so I am going to have to make all decisions and judgments based on other people's posting. Although my assumptions are not all going to be perfect, I will do my best as a townie to serve the cause. I am not going to sit around inactive and watch from the sidelines. I will post all of my thoughts regularly and often. My vote is based on solid reasoning not anger. Letting feuds outside the game interfere is retarded. I would rather vote for Syzygy if my vote had any basis of anger lol! Sword even said he will have to drop out of the game. That isn't the kind of player the town needs, and hey maybe if we are lucky he is a mafia!!! That opinion has no base in anger or anything. I would say the same thing about you if you were not posting. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 13:31:50 Unvote: Howes Vote: MVT 100% certain that MVT = Mafia now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 13:33:13 Lol you obviously are clueless on how this game works. I recommend you no-vote and watch for a while. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 13:37:13 Whatever. You basically forfeited with that post; The only thing I'm reluctant to say now; is how you forfeited. Townies; vote off MVT; you have my word he is mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 13:44:02 You act as if admitting your role is quitting. That means you don't know what you are doing. Get used to it, eventually a lot of useless townies end up admitting their roles. I just happened to be the first to do it this game. Believe me I wasn't afraid of your vote. Even if I was mafia I wouldn't have been afraid of that vote. Pobre all you have done so far is prove that you don't know what you are doing. You have also proved to everyone that your votes are pretty meaningless and wishy - washy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 13:46:19 I still think Howes is very possibly mafia but 46777E7E46737E77120 wrote:
Is one of the worst excuses ever... people take long to check topics. Sometime you're on another site... it doesn't matter if you don't check the topic immediately. Saying you were taking a shit is obviously an excuse, whether true or not, to cover up the fact you're mafia. Unvote Vote: MVT |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 13:47:37 I'm deeming you mafia because I know which Pokemon is a needledick; and you didn't list who your pokemon was. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 13:52:58 Goose your just as retarded. This game is really really sucking so far. No one is even attempting to use good reasoning. It is just, oh shit lets guess and vote randomly wooooooooo!!!!!!! Goose and Pobre are fucking idiots. Saying "oh if you dont reply in 5 minutes you are mafia" is the most retarded thing in the universe. Goose I really do think you might be mafia now. I think the town this game have proved to be REALLY BAD. The mafia also are doing a good job of making the thread a complete SHITHOLE where no actual discussion gets done! I feel like the only person actually trying to talk and get things done and eventually reach a consensus. Of course though the mafia would rather vote me out than someone who has yet to even post. Why attack me? It makes no sense, I am a fucking useless townie admitted! Although the other townies can't be 100% sure of that, you mafia bitches still know who everyone is! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 13:58:29 Your attempt at condescending my intelligence sucks really bad MVT. I know I was chosen to play this game of Mafia because a few select people wanted to see how good I'd do; attacking that isn't really doing much, because I couldn't give two shits what people think; if you knew me, you would know that. Goose is ether a townie; or a very good mafia player; don't get the wrong idea goose; I just heard rumors of how good of a mafia player you are so I have no choice but to be suspicious. Edit Reason - I just fixed grammatical errors; that's all. Edit Reason 2 - I wanted to bold the edit. xD |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/29/09 at 14:04:38 Jesus, I had no idea this started. Well, know I know it has started I will participate. Yes, my internet is really bad. This forum and my connection have issues with each other, in which it hardly ever loads. As much as this isn't my fault, it is my fault at the same time, and I'm sorry. I understand this isn't a very valid reason, and I'm sorry. I will take part much more in this game than the last game, where I hardly posted for no reason. MVT, you are pushing on me extremely hard for a very poor reason. I only just got onto the forum just now and see you speaking complete rubbish, as usual. It hasn't even been 24 hours yet, and you are really trying to put pressure on me. You say you are making an effort, but your posts actually are more confusing and full of dictating crap moreso than anything else. I don't like the way to speak to people and you just admitted you are useless, so I wouldn't care to see you gone. Vote : MVT Your cocky approach isn't working, MVT. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 14:06:47 How delightful; MVT's nemesis did come in handy after all. GG MVT. (: |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 14:09:45 That is a lie saying you just got in now when earlier your profile had you logged in at 1:01 P.M. Every game my posting style gets me in trouble early on!!! This same bullshit happened last game where everyone bandwagoned me for starting out boldly. Apparently the same thing is happening now. Sword you cleverly dodged all of the questions with that post and only attacked me. I didnt even start your bandwagon lol, but you didnt answer howes or darius's questions about you. That is really not a good way to play. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/29/09 at 14:11:06 unvote vote: MVT the coverup isn't working. i need a better reason why you're not mafia, or more evidence that someone else is mafia. so far it seems like you're trying too hard to prove you're town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 14:12:04 The fact that you'll admit you are a needledick, but won't say which Pokemon you are is retarded. I'm holding nothing against you; oh, and I'd be careful if I were you; I set some traps. [smiley=happy.gif] tell me which pokemon you are and I might lift my vote against you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/29/09 at 14:16:47 Thanks for replying to my post Pobre. You are full of shit, you basically roleclaimed supercop and assume that there's only one vanilla. Everyone so far has said something stupid in their posts but you make the least sense. You starting an MVT bandwagon looks pretty terrible too. Vote: Time You are probably Mewtwo or some shit ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 14:24:23 I'm not really sure how to take that post because right now you are Mafia/Town to me, split 50/50 down the middle atm. Don't know if you are jumping at a fellow mafia's defense. Or if you truly think I'm mafia. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/29/09 at 14:26:28 Answer to Darius' question : I will play better this time, as I'm town again and I want us to win. I'm not the most convincing person, I'll admit, but I'll try harder this time. Now there are less people, and there is less bullshit to search through, It will be easier to make more detailed opinions of people. Answer to Howes question : I have no decent valid excuse, I know, but the truth is that the forum wasn't loading yesterday. I will post more often now that I am fully aware the game has started. Sorry for not posting sooner. "On your profile you were logged in at 1:01am", I wasn't here, at the computer, at that time. Just because I'm logged in doesn't mean I'm sitting here reading the forum. Stop searching for ridiculous reasons to get people lynched. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 14:41:09 Why would I state which pokemon I am in a closed game when someone could easily say that that is their pokemon and I would have no way to disprove it? Then I would look like an idiot while the other liar will have no way to be disproved. That is a trap indeed Pobre. Your play style is really out of control this early. My view of you so far is the ultimate bandwagon / vote switcher of this game. Unless you get some composure you are not helping the town whatsoever with your wild votes thrown about. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 14:42:52 [3] Sword - Darius, Howes, MVT [3] MVT - Time, Goose, Sword. [0] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre) [1] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), Extol [2] Time - karterfreak, Padzup. [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) Correct me if I'm wrong please. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 14:43:14 Sword you were logged in at 1:01 P.M. I said and even if you were not at your computer it still shows that you had the ABILITY to log on to this forum. I also find it weird that now when people put pressure on you with 3 votes, you SUDDENLY post walls of text after being dead silent all day. Very fishy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 14:46:29 No. the same argument could be said backwards; You assume I don't know roles with good reason, so no harm no foul, yet you are reluctant to say which Pokemon you are, why are you so reluctant? if your a needle dick it doesn't really matter. Which Pokemon you are has no effect in this whatsoever because you already said you were a needle dick. If you really are a needle dick, you should know which Pokemon you are. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 14:47:56 If you guys are going to accuse someone of mafia, don't accuse them for a nonsense reason. Saying that MVT's excuse makes him look like mafia for covering up in such a bad way is completely stupid, so I hope that wasn't serious, cause it's not something that's very uncommon... Stop accusing people for stupid reasons and come up with some real reasons, most of you are probably townies attacking each other stupidly. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/29/09 at 14:48:34 Pobre, i switched my vote to MVT, so hes got 4 now i believe |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 14:51:18 Also this is just my take on it, but it seems like some of you think that all the needledicks are the same pokemon. Afaik, that isn't the case. Like lets say there were three needledick pokemon, they could be like pikachu, rattata and spearow or something, they won't all be the same pokemon. Also pobre just seems a bit paranoid, that's all. He's just being himself and he's new to the game, let him ease into it a bit more. At least he is active and trying to get stuff out of people. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 14:51:20 Here is an example for you Pobre: MVT(the town) - "My pokemon is Mew! Yay!!!!" Player X (the mafia) - "Hey you lying sack of shit that is my pokemon! You are mafia you liar!!!!!! vote MVT" I would have no actual way to DISPROVE player X. He could lie all day and say that is his pokemon even though it isnt and NO ONE could know. If it is a "trusted" player than that person could sway voters and start a bandwagon against me. I am not going to name my pokemon. There is no reason to. Why don't you go ahead and name yours so I can lie and say that is mine? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 14:54:24 [3] Sword - Darius, Howes, MVT. [4] MVT - Time, Goose, Sword, Extol. [0] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre) [1] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol) [2] Time - karterfreak, Padzup. [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 14:56:03 ivootjes and enigmaticcam have still not even posted yet... wtf? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 14:57:40 read the post again Kmacc. If you don't see the infallible proof that MVT is mafia than you too are mafia as well. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 14:57:56 If someone admitted to their pokemon and someone else said it was their pokemon, then either one or both of them will get killed, depending on if we were to lynch the liar on the first try. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/29/09 at 14:58:51 Of course I'm going to post when a) the forum gives me a chance and b) when people want to hear from me and start voting on me. Only a fool wouldn't, to be quite fair. I want to play in this game, that's why I signed up. And as for the walls of text comment ... I hardly ever post 1 liners. My posts always have quite a bit of text in them. It's just my posting style. What about you, MVT? You're being extremely pushy at every oppertunity you get, even when it doesn't make much sense to do so. Not everyone has had a chance to read the topic and make assumptions yet, and you are jumping on everyone with silly reasons. I think it's too early to know if anyone is mafia, noone has made any major slip ups yet. The only evidence you have is gut feeling, or just nonsense reasoning. This isn't helping anyone, it's just more bullshit to read through. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 14:59:41 "Infallible" Wow pretty bold their pobre. So bold that if I were to die you would of course be killed next by the town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/29/09 at 14:59:57 MVT: Sword has had problems connecting to the forum since I've known him. This isn't something he just came up with now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:01:37 "b) when people want to hear from me and start voting on me." Wow Sword so you will only post when people vote for you and you feel threatened? Interesting. That means you have no desire to help the town catch the mafia and try to trap some with posts... :( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:06:13 and about the "Mafia staying quiet" arguement Kmacc. Look; what is the mafia to town ratio? bound to be something like 4 townies to 1 mafia. if we kill off 2 or so townies at the start we'll know who's mafia and who isn't; and if they send someone in to pretend to be mafia we'll find out just by matching up the patterns in the text. But I'm sure MVT is mafia anyhow. But if he isn't; loss of some townies can always be used to our advantage. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:08:15 Nah that isn't how it works Pobre. If you are certain I am mafia go ahead and kill me. Just understand that when you find out I am town you will probably be lynched for such heavy band wagoning against me. 8-) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/29/09 at 15:10:33 66606C6E6E0D0 wrote:
To clear up any confusion about this, Kmacc has the right idea here. If there were 3 "needledicks," all 3 of them would still be different Pokemon. [4] MVT - Pobre, Goose, Sword, Extol [3] Sword - Darius, Howes, MVT [2] Pobre - karterfreak, Padzup [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol) [0] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 50 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/29/09 at 15:12:45 No, I am going to post regularly, I didn't before because I was new to the game and was learning how to play it, I was also very paranoid of screwing up and getting lynched for it. Now I have a little experience, I will try harder to help the town win. I wouldn't say its infallible that MVT is mafia, but he is only confusing people, prodding and nagging at the smallest things. Not saying that he isn't mafia, because that could very well be the case, just saying that no matter which team he is playing for, getting rid of him won't be a major loss for town, because his play style will only give us false accusations of people. If he happens to be mafia, it's a bonus. I know you're trying to get things out of people, but I think you are trying a little too hard. It's giving everyone the wrong impression. You had the same problem last game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:15:14 Exactly Sword. MVT is useless on ether faction. Best we lynch him early on tbh. But again; that isn't my reason for lynching him; wasn't going to do it all until he made that retarded post. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:15:59 Well I guess Sword made sense. I will have the guts to take my vote off him (the next closest vote leader) Unvote I won't vote for anyone else tonight to calm it down. I think every valid town player should step back for a bit (aka unvote) and have better discussion. [smiley=bath.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:25:07 It really sucks that this game is starting off badly for me yet again. This same exact thing happened last game and I was not mafia. I think it is my style that gets me in trouble so I will be happy to address that. My style has a tendency to jump out at people. Early on in a game that style makes people suspicious. Anyone who played last game would know that I played similarly. Early on in a game when there is VERY LITTLE actual information known or being talked about people look for anything that stands out. My aggressive interrogative style jumps off the page right away. It almost got me killed right away last game and it looks like it might happen this game. People decided to keep me around last time and they were smart to do so since it payed off in the long run. You would think that they would learn a lesson but this time around a bunch of newer players have joined. So again my style jumps out and the votes go towards me. I hope that you all decide to keep me around! I really really want to be a solid town player for everyone, but I can't be if I am dead... Try to look past the posting STYLE and look at some of the substance. I am just throwing around words at people. I don't think I am hurting the town whatsoever right now. Everyone does this at the beginning of the game, my posts just jump out above them so I look suspicious. Rest assured I am not mafia, just an aggressive poster. Even I see that in this game so far there has been little actual substance that is why I currently am not going to vote for anyone. Town really needs to step away, back off accusations and try to gain some valuable substance information. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:26:36 MY Style is the one that is extravagant and gets people's attention. You're just a poser mafia trying to cover it up. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:28:01 Your 1-2 line posts are not drawing my attention that's for sure. You have done squat shit so far in terms of helping the town. You remind me of how brutus played last round. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:29:34 Goose; keep making post like that and you'll be the next one to go. MVT's last post seemed almost legit to be honest; but not enough for me to unvote. Perhaps Goose and Sword are playing me? What would you make of that MVT? Edit Reason - Grammar correction in last sentence "This" to "That." |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:30:35 41447B7A6776547C7C6076130 wrote:
Where is the reasoning behind that? I am trying to at least hold substantive points of view. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:31:19 "You have done squat shit so far in terms of helping the town." I've done a lot of studies on people's language and usage of words. If you were town, you would have said "in terms of helping us." You're doing a good job pretending to be town but hey, everyone here knows I'm the best player here and I know for a fact you are mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:32:14 Lol MVT, I explained why Howes could be mafia. He claimed he didn't look at his role. That either means: a) He didn't look at his role b) He's mafia |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:33:27 Pobre you seem like a town to me. In fact I am a little bit confident that you are. Goose is trying to act like he knows EXACTLY what he is doing and he is heavily playing up that he has some long experience playing mafia games. To me Goose is acting like a know - it - all, can't be wrong kind of player. Is it suspicious ya it is. It doesn't help the town either. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:33:56 It's as MVT said; you looked for any reason to accuse him Goose; Are you mafia goose? Not answering is an answer btw. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:34:10 How does saying you haven't yet looked at your role make you a suspected mafia? edit: this post is towards goose |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:35:08 I've played 2 mafia games in my life, both on the kart boards, but everyone knows I was the MVP for my side both times. Sorry that you aren't as good as me and that your epidermis is showing. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:36:06 I'm suspecting that goose has a very powerful role at this point. Edit Reason - Lmao, Roll to "role" no i wasn't talking about goose's small dong. :D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:36:14 Goose seems really desperate to hold my bandwagon together even though I have attempted to answer every accusation made against me, and have provided at least decent, reasonable explanations to why I am not mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:38:01 He dosn't seem desperate. Here are my speculations at this point. 1.) He is confident in his abilities as a mafia player that he can play me. 2.) He is a townie and is just talking shit. 3.) He is nether a townie nor a mafia. 4.) He has some special role that enables him to do something big, not sure what yet. Ether way; he's making himself more suspicious on purpose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:38:34 No Pobre, I am not mafia this game. And MVT, not looking at your role is BRILLIANT but it could also be a cover up. Look at it this way. There are a few things that could happen. Howes looks at his role and is mafia. Howes looks at his role and is town. Howes does not look at his role. Which of those three are the LEAST likely for him to post that "he did not look at his role yet?" Obviously the one that suggests he's town but pretended to not see his role. This means that either he's mafia, or he didn't look at his role... which in any case he STILL could be be mafia... there's about a 25% chance that he's mafia even if he didn't look... have you ever seen the game "Let's Make a Deal" where there is 3 doors, and a car is behind one of the door? You pick a door, and then the host says "Ok, I will tell you which door it is NOT behind," shows one door, and then offers to switch. If you accept the switch, your odds increase from 33% to 66% of hitting the car. It's the same mathematical concept here. I don't fully understand it but that's the way it works. Look it up if you care. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:40:12 Here you go MVT. This is why I think it is not a bad guess at this point in the game to vote for Howes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Hall_problem |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 15:40:51 Goose, you got lynched day 2 in one of the mafia games, how could you be MVP for your team that game? [smiley=lolk.gif] Accusing Howes that he is mafia cause he said he didn't look at his role yet is also stupid. Why are you trying to sway people with such weird reasoning? Also, someone's word usage in that case isn't a big deal. You are just looking at the smallest things and blowing it out of proportion. Saying "to help town" or "to help us" or whatever isn't a huge difference. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:42:04 If you are a fellow townie then I think it's safe to say that we don't have enough merit to deem Howes for good. Wait for him to defend himself. I just find it very plausible that he would look at the topic before checking his pm's and simply not thinking it through. But where I think your heading is with this Goose. Howes didn't even have to mention reading his pm or not; no one else did; which strongly suggest he did indeed read his role; but whether or not he is town or mafia is something we can't conclude at this point. Edit Reason - "Roll" to "Role" again. -_-, and this post is directed at Goose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:42:28 It makes sense Goose, but as I said I am not voting for anyone anymore (at least not tonight) until I see something a bit more substantial. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:45:13 Ok, MVT, that is fine. I believe we should always vote and lynch, because I really don't see the benefit of allowing the mafia to have the first move. If you like to wait it out, go ahead, but I prefer to go for it. Right now, by voting Howes, we have a higher probability to get him as a mafia than if we picked anyone else randomly. And right now this is the best we have to go off, as no one has posted anything incriminating yet. Basically for those who are for voting now, Howes is the best vote. Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:46:08 That concept can be reversed Goose. Stand-Alone, the odds of him being a townie are more than mafia. And he hasn't posted anything that suggest he is mafia or town. Maybe he was simply saying he didn't read his role because he wanted to hint to mafia members or townies that it's a powerful one? ether way; I'm sticking to my vote. But Goose man; you making some bad moves. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:46:47 I feel like I have properly defended myself. I will still answer anything directed towards me. I do not understand whatsoever why some people who are also claimed townies (Goose) are continuing to vote almost randomly based off very small things and nothing solid. I still wonder what the reasoning is behind the 4 votes cast my way. I could understand 3 hours ago, but at this point I don't get it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:48:16 6D6857564B5A7850504C5A3F0 wrote:
Ok with your probability method your vote now makes sense to me and is actually based off of something. Good job! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:50:23 Pobre, check it out. Right now, let's assume no one has said or done anything to suggest they are mafia. Let's guess there are 6 mafias out of the 19. This isn't really important, so a guess is fine. That means that the odds of picking someone randomly and having them be mafia are around 30%. However, with the Monty Hall problem, choosing Howes to lynch, these odds go up slightly. Yes, I'm aware it's not great, but it's all we have to go on right now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/29/09 at 15:50:57 unvote i dont think the probability that Howes is mafia is any more than anyone else at this point, he said he read his pm after a while, and i dont see him as mafia right now. MVT has calmed down a bit, and although there is still a little suspicion because of earlier, im taking my vote off him cause theres really no hard evidence of anything. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 15:53:40 Kmacc is defending Howes. Goose is opposing Howes. MVT and Sword are grudging against each other. I'm not really sure what to think at this point but Goose is going down the road of lynchage. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:54:29 6847444450475B65220 wrote:
Pobre I am not going to sit here and desperately beg you to take your vote off me (you probably will soon anyways) but since I have a feeling you are also town I will say this... Take a breather man. Unvote, and lets wait a little bit for some other players to talk. A lot of people really have not even spoken more than 1 post yet. Patience is a key virtue. I know you are the kind of guy to post a lot and be a little hyper in here but for the good of the town I think it is best not to vote for anyone at the moment and just take a breather and hear from virtually silent folks. Goose for you too it would be beneficial. Sure you do have good reasoning for howes but I think it is too damn early to seal someones fate. If you do not hear anything than sure later you should go ahead and vote howes. But for now town needs to be patient. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 15:56:45 But Goose, you are saying Howes is best to vote for as of right now as if the day is coming to a close. If we don't have any solid leads yet, we hold off our votes for a while, and wait for something to happen. I agree with you that letting mafia get the first move is bad, so lynching someone will most likely happen today as nearly everyone dislikes no-lynching as far as I know. But we have a lot of time still, so there is still time to see if someone slips up, or determine if they are going to be active enough to help and not confuse us. If you're going to be suspicious of Howes I'm not going to stop you, but don't push it so hard this early on off of that one detail. See what he has to say, and analyze what else is going on around here to determine your pick, don't be so glued to your vote on Howes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/29/09 at 15:57:52 Kmacc you nailed it spot on! I also do not support a no-lynch but we have like 48 hours left so lets be patient. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 15:59:37 I'm not being suspicious of Howes... it's just the best play right now. And I am one who lives in the present moment since that is the best way to live. Focus on what is happening right now. If I could force everyone to post something and then analyze from that, I would do that, but you can't control others. If you want I'll just leave for a few hours and come back later, but I like getting my post count up. In other words; Let me vote Howes since this is the best decision right now. No one else do anything. In a few hours everyone's mind will change. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 16:08:31 Request for current active members; copy and paste this list and post your thoughts on the players; you don't have to of course. Just asking. 1) Darius - Has been idle as far as I know. 2) EnigmaticCam - Has been completely silent; his role is absolutely up in the air. 3) Etch - Posted a few times; I know etch and I know how busy he is; he's more than likely Town. 4) Extol - Pretty sure he's town; but slightly suspicious. 5) Fababu - Hasn't said shit; most likely will be replaced. 6) Goose - Very suspicious; seems to be manipulating people and making his position more suspicious on purpose. 7) Howes - His position can go ether way. 8) In Hiding - Leaning towards mafia. 9) Ivootjes - Most likely will be replaced. 10) karterfreak - Leaning towards mafia. 11) Kmacc - Leaning towards mafia. 12) Koopz - Leaning Towards Mafia 13) Lenny - No comment. 14) MVT - Leaning Towards town. 15) Padzup - Leaning Towards Town. 16) Pobre - Town. 17) Sportsguy - Hasn't made a post yet. 18) Sword - Leaning towards mafia. 19) Syzygy - Leaning Towards town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/29/09 at 16:10:57 We still have 48 hours of the day left, so anyone who tries to end the day early is gonna be highly suspect, in my opinion. Ending days early always hinders the town, and could slaughter us. Please, don't make any harsh decisions and end the day hours and hours and hours before it should do. And especially on the earlier days too. We need all the information/evidence we can get. Ending days early counters this entirely. Thats another reason I'm suspect of MVT. He was one to do this in the last game. "Come on guys lets vote ___ and get this day over with". I hope he learns from this mistake. I appreciate you making a statement about yourself, MVT, and I agree with it. I'm not gonna lift my vote off you yet, though. It's alright you admitting you play in such an aggressive manner, but if you are gonna keep nit-picking over literally nothing and being really assertive at everyone then you aren't gonna help the town in anyway. Prove to be a bit more of a team player and I'll lift the vote. I am not in favour of voting lynch, because most the time it gives the town a disadvantage, and leaves us vunerable. At least with a lynch we get a shot at someone. And for the Howes thing ... don't insist of getting rid of him when the day isn't even half-way through yet. And the "It's the only thing we have to go on" statement sounds like something you'd hear in the last hour, when we have 48 left. There is no rush. I'm not defending Howes, as I haven't an idea of what to make of his strategy. But we'll see as the day goes on. Still waiting on Cam and Ivo to post. Though they are most likely busy, so don't press on them too hard. I would like to hear their opinions on this, though, as they are both very experienced in this game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 16:13:03 Sure thing Pobes: Odds of participants being mafia 1) Darius - 30% 2) EnigmaticCam - 30% 3) Etch - 30% 4) Extol - 30% 5) Fababu - 30% 6) Goose - 0% 7) Howes - 60% 8) In Hiding - 30% 9) Ivootjes - 30% 10) karterfreak - 30% 11) Kmacc - 30% 12) Koopz - 30% 13) Lenny - 30% 14) MVT - Using my own estimation I'll have to go around 45% 15) Padzup - 30% 16) Pobre - 0% 17) Sportsguy - 30% 18) Sword - 30% 19) Syzygy - 30% |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 16:14:11 Hmm, to clarify, since Pobre and I are townies, the 30% for most people I gave should actually be 6/17, or around 36%. This means that Howes chance of being mafia is around 72%. Just mathematical error while the proportions remain the same so it's not really a big deal. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/29/09 at 16:55:49 I was at my little cousins birthday party so i haven't been around in while. To me pobre is 100% town. Goose about 75% is town. I think MVT is always going to look suspicious no matter what he does. He is probably town, but there is no way to tell by the way he posts. Based on previous games, Howes likes to play mind games. His mind game last time was claiming to be mafia, this game is by not looking at his role until recently. Kmacc seems like the prototypical town player, whether he is town or not, i don't know. Sword seems genuinely interesting in trying his best in this game. Tom is probably town because he always is. If starts talking about his gut, then i think he is mafia. Darius is another person like kmacc who is a good town player, but maybe too good. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/29/09 at 17:03:00 Holy shit guys, 7 pages? :o When did this topic actually open? I'll read everything tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 17:05:39 Ivo, the topic opened just about this time yesterday. And seven pages isn't so bad considering what you had to read last mafia game. :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/29/09 at 17:59:40 Well; I've come to my consensus for today; I believe that everyone who has posted thus far is more than likely town and we are simply squabbling about ourselves as mafia members laugh behind our backs. Gonna wait for more information before I cast a vote. Unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/29/09 at 18:06:18 [2] Sword - Darius, Howes, (MVT) [2] Pobre - karterfreak, Padzup [1] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), Sword, (Extol) [1] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), Goose [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol) [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 47 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Etch on 03/29/09 at 18:33:58 If we are going to lynch someone on the first day, better an inactive player. Sure, they may be a town player but maybe they are also a mafia. It's not to our advantage to keep inactive players alive, if they have a power they won't be using it. xP I agree with Sportsguy's assessment. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/29/09 at 19:15:56 ok, finally read everything pretty thoroughly, and i'd like to put in my two cents. first off, more people need to post more. the last 4 pages have pretty much been Goose/Pobre/MVT with occasional splashes of Kmacc and then Sword coming in to defend himself. i'm guilty of this myself, and i'll definitely be active more now that the weekend is over. i dont have any solid opinions yet. MVT has consistently posted aggressively, so i'm neutral about him right now. this is jeff's first game where he's actually been participating, and i'm kinda hesitant about him, but i dont really know why as of yet, so i'll leave it at that. goose.... also hesitant about him. i'll be rereading some of the last few pages to formulate my opinions more. i'm personally in favor of making the days last as long as possible. the longer they last, the more people will (hopefully) post, and the more info we can glean from said posts. i would also like to say that i'm NOT in favor of a no-lynch. pretty sure it was goose that said that town should make the first move instead of giving the mafia a free kill, and i very much agree with that. basically, we need our inactives to post more, and our active players thus far to keep posting their thoughts as well. town, we'll need a lot of collaboration on this to give us a fair shot at winning, so i want everyone to try hard to be able to check the topic as often as possible and to be post their thoughts about what they've seen thus far. no vote for now |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/29/09 at 19:31:44 I agree with Etch when he says we should lynch people who are not talking at least, considering they aren't contributing anything. If it's anything like the previous mafia games, the mafia are always quieter than the other players are, so if the old games are anything to base off of, then we would probably have a better chance killing off a mafia out of the quieter people than the people actually talking. At the same time, I don't think we should lynch if everyone does actually contribute the first day. At that point we're more likely to kill a townie than a mafia, based on mafia generally not talking that much. For now, we should try and get some of the people who aren't talking to talk more. unvote vote: EnigmaticCam I'll take my vote off if you talk, I'm just trying to get everyone to discuss things this game so it doesnt end up like the last couple games. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 19:34:53 Voting for someone to talk more isn't going to do us any good if the person hasn't spoken at all, especially if they haven't even been online for a while (didn't someone say Cam hasn't been on in about a week?). |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/29/09 at 19:45:42 Etch, doesn't sound like you've brought anything to the table really, just stated what's already been said. I don't know if it's because you don't care but I'd like to see you contribute a bit more as well since you always seem to complain that everyone else are idiots :) Pobre I'll lay off for now but don't think that I've forgotten that you've ignored any of my posts that you can't make yourself look good off of. unvote vote: Kmacc Everyone's coming to the realization that mafia is going to be mostly silent. But it wouldn't be hard for you to contribute since you did as a town in the past two games anyway. You've managed to be pretty neutral as always but you'd likely be using that to your advantage to let everyone think nothing has changed. Maybe all of mafia is doing this as a new strat. Not that I find you especially suspicious but I'd like to see what you say about this since you seem to be able to lie back and watch everyone shoot themselves in the foot. There's really no reason to not play the helpful-town mafia since it's yet to be done, it would throw everyone for a loop. e: If Cam doesn't talk by the end of Day 1 we should replace him if he hasn't been lynched already. This game should be interesting, I trust Honko would have picked a decent mafia this time. No offense Lenny [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/29/09 at 19:55:36 It's not that the mafia is going to mostly be silent. It's more so the fact that if we lynch someone who's inactive, they'll either be useless anyway, or mafia which will be a bonus. It just so happens that in previous games the mafia was a quiet group, so lynching quiet people worked out. Also, I'm not trying to lay back and watch people go at each other. I told them already to be more sensible because most of their leads were based off of pretty stupid ideas. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Etch on 03/29/09 at 19:55:46 It's the first day Padzup. Can anyone really figure out who is who with any degree of certainty yet? I don't see the need to rant about a lot of bullshit. With 7 pages already, I thought it wouldn't hurt to hammer the point we should lynch a non-active player. I have to stop Pobre from confusing everyone, lol. He's new to this game and let's every thought find it's way onto this thread. My usual suspects are the guys not posting or come off very phony based on their usual posting on the forum. It's not that hard to spot the liars. The guy who will die today will be mafia or some new player to mafia who is doing a terrible job or is not even participating. Stop trying to kill Kmacc, you are usually proven wrong. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/29/09 at 20:09:31 4842515746517C4551464248230 wrote:
We're always more likely to kill a townie than a mafia, however we have about a 30% chance of killing a mafia. The mafia has a 100% chance of killing town so I don't see why you would ever vote for a no lynch on Day 1. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/29/09 at 23:10:14 All roles were assigned randomly. Whether this game's mafia family turned out "better" than Lenny's or not is entirely up to chance. [2] Sword - Darius, Howes, (MVT) [1] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), Sword, (Extol) [1] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), Goose [1] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), karterfreak [1] Kmacc - Padzup [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 42 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 01:42:39 bloody hell. 7 pages a day? I'm not gonna get much work done am I? :( ok, first list of of safe and suspects poketown Extol MVT (more enhanced by Extol removing his vote from MVT) Pokemafia suspects Goose - almost certain he's mafia Pobre - loose cannon - pretty sure him and Goose are mafia thinking its clever to waffle. Either way - i'd be more effective with both of them gone. sportsguy - i seem to find him sus every time, not sure why, something he said was iffy. But I was wrong about him before so i'll wait for now. People who need to either start playing town better or are mafia sword padzup So i'm gonna go for goose Vote Goose also alex, your post was a little out of sync with your previous posts, you're a little sus. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/30/09 at 02:52:43 Morning, Tom. I think this time of the day is reserved almost exclusively for us in these games. First of all: unvote That vote was just to get Sword to talk and I'm satisfied so far with what he's posted. MVT, Goose and Pobre's exchange makes up most of what went on last night. MVT and Goose seem to be playing to type to me. MVT is playing the same quite aggressive style that got him in trouble early on last game. Goose is completely confident in his views and his posts are very assertive. The vote on Howes for probability reasons strikes me as a bit odd because it's not a straight Monty Hall problem, considering that I can see reasons why Howes would know he is a townie and still pretend he hasn't seen his PM. Pobre is harder to get a read on because I haven't seen him play before but he seems to have shifted quite a lot even in this short space of time: first he seemed like he was getting Scott-style paranoia, then he became very certain that MVT was mafia and also suspected Goose and now he has backed down with an unvote. Etch and Kmacc are doing exactly what I would expect them to do and telling people to calm down and be sensible, which is what a few players need to be told on a regular basis. Sportsguy's suggestion that Kmacc and I are possibly 'too good' town players looks to me like going down the same road that some people went on Penev last game where they seemed to think that he was somehow helping town so much he might actually be mafia. Padzup's vote on Kmacc seems to be for the same reason and has no logic to me. If Kmacc is mafia and he's the type of player who you think is always going to come across as helpful townie regardless of which side he's on, voting for him because he's being a helpful townie makes no sense. We're better off waiting for more information, watching his voting patterns and seeing if his helpful townie play is actually getting townies killed. As for the people who weren't talking, we've heard from everyone except Cam and Ivo (who has posted but not actually said anything of worth yet). Cam's profile says he hasn't been on since the 23rd so I think Robin's going to have to get in a replacement. I'll post some more thoughts later. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 03:51:18 you do realise that by law of averages you and me are due to be mafia soon? lol thats the only reason so far i would have for voting for you. Otherwise you seem to be quite with it. (obviously I realise the implications of what i've said - as the averages point to me just as much as to Darius - but as i've said, do not vote for me if you are town or it will be doubly bad!;) ) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/30/09 at 04:08:28 Cam hasn't been on since the 23'rd? unvote If he doesn't talk soon, he should get a replacement. No Lynch True to my word, everyone has talked, so I think no lynch should be the best option for day 1. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/30/09 at 04:37:57 Tom, you might be mafia now (although I've also seen no reason to think so thus far). The probability of being mafia resets every game. You're always more likely to be town than mafia. I probably will get to be mafia if I play enough games but there's no rational explanation to say I'm due to be mafia. It's certainly not a reason for me to vote for you, or for you to vote for me, or for us to vote for anyone else who hasn't been mafia yet. See here if you want a more detailed explanation of why we're never 'due' to be mafia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy As long as the mafia is selected randomly, there's no reason why we should be more likely to be mafia. Using the 'law of averages' to try and cast suspicion on me is suspicious, though :P I don't see why no lynch is a good idea, Matt. If we no lynch then we get less information on voting patterns and the mafia are going to just leave the townies who are confusing or quiet alive whilst picking off the more useful ones. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/30/09 at 04:55:14 Tom, Alex isn't playing in this game. Also, I don't know why you are so suspicious of goose and pobre. I think these two especially pobre are obvious town. Maybe i'm wrong, but they seem all town to me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 06:09:16 why do you think pobre and goose are town? I read your post there and it makes you look either not so good at the game or mafia.. I'll bet $20 one of them if not both is mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 06:13:15 im unsure about Pobre, i think he is probably town, although i may be wrong. But i think Goose is likely mafia, because hes trying too hard to prove that Howes is mafia, i think hes trying to pick off the townies one by one. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 07:04:30 I agree, i'd like to hear alot more from the mods who are playing. They've been quiet and should lead by example. goose is maf - but is pobre? the question remains open for now.. :question |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/30/09 at 07:11:43 Tom, you agree with who about the mods? Or are those unrelated points? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/30/09 at 07:16:04 0227342F3335460 wrote:
I'm not saying its a bad idea to vote for people to pressure them to try and get as much information out of the day as possible. Right now my vote is no lynch because I don't know who I want to pressure, as everyone (excluding cam) has posted now. In the end, If we don't get enough information to make a decent lynch attempt, or we don't find someone who clearly isn't posting as much as other (which will only work if everyone tries to contribute to the game), then no lynch is the best option. If we do get enough information or do find someone who isn't contributing much, then yeah, that's fair grounds for a lynch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/30/09 at 07:22:06 5B74777763746856110 wrote:
Mmmm... I will try to post more, I've been busy with my exams but tomorrow I'll finish with them so I will have mor free time. Pobre is the person who I suspected of less, he's getting involved in the game fast and making interesting posts taking some risks; but it makes me think that he's townie. It's hard to avoid thinking that Goose could be mafia, as he has got always a mafia role. But I'm objetive and I don't doubt of him at the moment. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 07:34:11 All the probability stuff of someone being mafia shouldn't even be part of the discussion. Everyone has the exact same chance of getting a mafia role, and roles in other games don't have anything to do with what roles you get in this game. The people who are most suspected as mafia to some of you (Goose, Pobre, MVT) are suspected just because of their constant posting and arguing back and forth earlier. This has happened in previous games, and chances are these are all townies just at each other's throats for no real reason. I'm not ruling out that one of them could be mafia, but we can't take full merit in this event being suspicious because it's usually a bunch of townies in this situation. @Matt: For there to be a no-lynch, not only would everyone have to be active, they would have to be very very helpful. The chances of that are basically 0%, there's no way each person here will help to a good enough extent. And voting to lynch someone could get information as well, rather than waiting for night actions to come to get information. We can see some voting patterns, and this could help power roles make decisions at night based on who voted what way. @Robin: I don't know if Cam is going to be around here anytime soon it seems. If he were to get replaced, who would most likely take his spot? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/30/09 at 07:43:03 unvote There seems to be no good vote at the moment, and Sword has talked enough, so I'll unvote for now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 07:57:55 Hey guys, I am here! Sorry about the late response, I was gone on vacation in Vegas, and I just got back. I am at work and swamped with catching up, but I am reading the posts slowly now and will make myself much more active later today. Sorry! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/30/09 at 07:58:18 Who deleted EnigmaticCam's post? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 08:06:15 I don't see any post by Cam deleted (unless he posted and it got deleted before I saw it at all), but someone deleted Mark's post, which is fine since he isn't in the game. Good to see Cam is actually playing though, I was worried he might get replaced by Scott or Flo. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/30/09 at 08:11:36 Kmacc is right about the no lynch, Matt. There's no way we're going to get everyone to be so useful that it's a better decision to no lynch. Using the voting pattern information is a crucial part of working out who's mafia and I don't think we'd get much information from no lynching. I don't know why you'd push a no lynch this early on when we haven't even had time to gather that much information. Fababu, what does Goose always being mafia have to do with anything? If anyone finds it hard to think that Goose isn't mafia because of him being mafia in a couple of previous games then their logic is going to be horrible. Also, how does Pobre taking risks make him a townie? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 08:13:20 I deleted Marks post as it was just slagging off Mafia game. Epic fail for a topic like this :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 08:14:06 lol kmacc. still no one wholly suspicious to me yet, though tyler had a post on the previous page that i didnt really like (the one where he said he was pretty sure goose and pobre are "definitely" townies). found the quote: Quote:
just the way he worded that one got me somewhat suspicious.... so here goes a stab in the dark. vote: Tyler my reasoning behind this is that in previous mafia games, i've noticed that mafia members nearly always use words like "definitely" or "obviously" or other rather simple words when calling someone town, when usually, that person is actually mafia. tyler, can you tell me why exactly you think that pobre and goose are "obviously" town? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 08:15:37 656F7C7A6B7C51687C6B6F650E0 wrote:
I thought maybe I just didn't hit the post button or something, so I reposted. Did it actually go through and was deleted? How can you tell? Still reading through the posts, trying to be meticulous about it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 08:27:51 fuck it, koops is upping his game. I'll lend support to someone who's thinking/feeling on the same wave length as me. I missed that one koops, good spot. unvote goose (you'll keep!) vote: Tyler |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/30/09 at 08:30:36 [2] Sportsguy - Koopz, In Hiding [1] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), Sword, (Extol) [1] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), Goose [1] Kmacc - Padzup [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 32.5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 08:32:24 doesn't that make it look like i'm voting twice? goose and tyler? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 08:35:18 It just looks like Honko is trying to make our jobs a bit easy by seeing who people unvoted for and having it in order as well. It can look a bit confusing at times though. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 08:42:37 Great to see you in the game In Hiding. I've been awaiting your arrival. I'm pretty sure you're town; but ether way I'm not so quick to lynch you because to be honest; you aren't living up the threat I thought you would be. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 08:48:14 Vote: Koopz |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 08:51:05 threat? lol, why would i be a threat? I'm only a threat if you're mafia. I'm known as the pokemafia hunter around here, dontcha know ;) Pobre, are you pokemafia? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 08:51:16 42 to go! anyways; sportsguy is most likely town in my book because he just seems so innocent; ether way; if he does turn out to be mafia It's better to not lynch him now because he's useless. Thomas GX also seems suspect. KoopZ seems obvious mafia. Cam is just a mystery at the moment. Goose seems mafia. Kmacc seems mafia. Edit Reason - Grammar error. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 08:53:05 I've been thinking about what I would say when I'm asked that question because to be honest; whether I"m town or not it seems to be a diffcult question to answer without coming off as suspect. I'm town all the way; and you are mafia I'm sure. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 08:54:34 Pobre, what is your reasoning for your suspicions? It helps us townies more when we can see the reasoning behind why you think someone is suspicious, it gets some ideas thrown out there for us to think about. Saying someone is suspicious without a reason isn't going to lead to anything. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 08:54:44 Then you're poor at this game and I will vote against you when the time is right. I am Town and have hinted at more about that already, but sadly you've not picked up on that :) Nevermind, it reinforces the idea you are more likely to be mafia or goose is. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 08:56:20 and now there goes jeff with the word "obvious".... you people need to come up with better reasons as to why someone is mafia or town rather than using words like "obviously" or "definitely". just ups your suspicion if you ask me. i'm keeping my vote on tyler, but the fact that jeff and tyler are supporting one another is definitely suspect in my book. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 08:58:17 agreed. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 08:58:54 39 to go! At KMACC's request anyways; sportsguy is most likely town in my book because he just seems so innocent; ether way; if he does turn out to be mafia It's better to not lynch him now because he's useless. Thomas GX also seems suspect. - He was town in all other games; it's just a matter of chance that he hit the mafia jackpot now. KoopZ seems obvious mafia. - he isn't really making any post that helps him come off as a townie. He is a busy person so he might be the type to make conspicuous post. Cam is just a mystery at the moment. - he hasn't posted that much. Goose seems mafia. -Goose is proud of his intellect; he's cocky; and he is posting in ways that make him seem like he's a mafia player taking to many risk because he thinks everyone else is dumb. Kmacc seems mafia - I just can't bring myself to trust you. this dosn't just span this game; but in general; ever since I owned your ass 7 times in a row in mkds wifi I could not bring myself to trust you; you've always been suspicious in my books; like your the type of person to play a person till the end. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 08:59:32 something i almost forgot about from the last game: Members viewing this topic (6): EnigmaticCam, Kmacc, Time (replying), KoopZ, In Hiding, Honko. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:00:37 Koopz; if i were mafia; and sportsguy was mafia; i would not be so retarded as to actually support him to not getting lynched for the very reasons you listed. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:01:39 So much for being a mafia hunter thomas; you can't even think 2 steps ahead. your reasons for suspecting me are 3rd rate; can you even give a real reason why you suspect me? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:03:07 Ether way, it's like sportsguy said; I'm obvious town and so is he; you two (Koopz and In Hiding) are using this to your advantage to place suspicious on me and away from yourselves. I think both of you are mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:03:51 Quote:
you've gotta be kidding me. the few posts that i do have so far, i've been explaining to the best of my ability just how i'm feeling about whichever person i'm directing my posts towards.... which in one of my recent posts, happened to be you and tyler. its suspicious to me that people would band with each other already so early on in the game. first tyler saying he thinks you're obviously town, and then you turning around and saying the same thing about him? you're a marked man in my book now jeff. still keeping my vote on tyler for now, unless something else drastic happens that changes my mind otherwise. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:05:34 17383B3B2F38241A5D0 wrote:
you could also be using that as a cover to hide the fact that you two really are mafia.... assuming you are, of course. there's a lot to be said for mafia mind games, and you may just be trying to play one right now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:06:37 You seem to apathetic in your post KoopZ. Like you're some type of drone that is just listing off suspicions and mystery's. If there is a disadvantage to act on the contrary I'd like to hear it. Other than the strong possibility that you're mafia scum. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/30/09 at 09:07:25 Odd, I could have sworn I saw Cam's post deleted, because when I refreshed the page at the time of my post, the post was gone. Maybe I'm just seeing things x_x. And yeah, Kmacc is right about no-lynch, considering not everyone contributes as much as they should to the topic (just saying it like it is). I still think however we should vote someone who is most suspicious or someone who only has like one post close to the end of day 1. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:08:09 No, this isn't a mafia mindgame. because 1.) I'm town. and 2.) That move would have been retarded no matter how you look at it; if I were mafia I would have NEVER supported sportsguy even if he was a fellow mafia member! thats just common sense! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:09:51 my idea is that directly supporting one another seems suspicous. there is alot of "i dont think so-n-so is mafia" and then later on, so-n-so will say the same thing about person #1. you two are pretty much directly backing each other up. thats why i thought twice about the whole thing. Members viewing this topic (8): EnigmaticCam, Kmacc, Time (replying), KoopZ, In Hiding, Honko, karterfreak (replying), Darius. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:13:03 Ima break it down like this to my fellow townies. 1.) Kooper is being like Goose; and attacking what little piece of evidence he can find. 2.) This is different however; Goose based his suspicions off of something plausible. 3.) Koops isn't; he's assuming that someone is actually retarded enough to support another "Mafia" member out in the open. 4.) Despite knowing this; he continues to push foward with this suspicion. 5.) Because he is mafia; and he wants to start picking off the townies. Edit Reason - "of" to "off" |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/30/09 at 09:15:19 Well I have nothing else to do with my time than make vote count updates look fancy. [2] Sportsguy - Koopz, In Hiding [1] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), Sword, (Extol) [1] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), Goose [1] Kmacc - Padzup [1] Koopz - Pobre [0] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Darius - (Syzygy) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 32 hours. Any better? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/30/09 at 09:22:38 644B48485C4B57692E0 wrote:
Why do people keep doing this? It doesn't matter if Tom was town in all the other games, it makes no difference to this one. Pobre, you're accusing Tom and Cooper of not having good reasons for suspecting you when you're the one coming up with terrible reasons. Your statement about Kmacc being the kind of guy who plays people until the end is also ridiculous and your vote for Cooper with no initial explanation is very suspect. Why do you think Tyler is so innocent? Why are Goose's suspicions more plausible than Cooper's even though he said he didn't suspect Howes, he was voting for him based on a probability calculation? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:24:33 you call these plausible? 6F6A555449587A52524E583D0 wrote:
Is one of the worst excuses ever... people take long to check topics. Sometime you're on another site... it doesn't matter if you don't check the topic immediately. Saying you were taking a shit is obviously an excuse, whether true or not, to cover up the fact you're mafia. Unvote Vote: MVT[/quote] Quote:
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you call these plausible? he's pulling shit out of thin air and basically using his confident posting style to give them merit. if you really step back and look at them, goose knows just as little as the rest of us about who's mafia and who's not. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:27:21 But goose is mafia...and so are you. <_< give me a reason why you're not already. xD |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:29:43 082D3E25393F4C0 wrote:
Why do people keep doing this? It doesn't matter if Tom was town in all the other games, it makes no difference to this one. Pobre, you're accusing Tom and Cooper of not having good reasons for suspecting you when you're the one coming up with terrible reasons. Your statement about Kmacc being the kind of guy who plays people until the end is also ridiculous and your vote for Cooper with no initial explanation is very suspect. Why do you think Tyler is so innocent? Why are Goose's suspicions more plausible than Cooper's even though he said he didn't suspect Howes, he was voting for him based on a probability calculation?[/quote] Well Goose also had something to same about him not saying his role; that seems to have merit that he's suspicious in my book; but still 50/50 mafia; I understand that townies can act suspicious for mind games as well which is why I was reluctant to vote off Howes. As for Tyler; I think he's innocent because I know I came off as an eager townie at the start of the game; and I know for a fact that I'm town; so I trust his judgment to spot townies and mafia's; unless he's mafia which I just have a strong nudge that he isn't; he isn't acting like how I thought a mafia player would act. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 09:30:06 koops, at the same time i'm backing you for reasonable intuition. I think if pobre is alive on day two we should consider voting for him for the sake of being able to concentrate more on goose who i think of the two is more suspect. And my impression of koops is always that he comes across as apathetic but you'd be a fool not to think he's a sharp cookie. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:30:30 And also; I suspect that there is one player that isn't town or mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:32:17 continuing my previous post... first post, he's making a pretty unfounded claim based off of something that MVT said in what i thought was an attempt to be funny. second post, he's merely stating the obvious, providing no proof whatsoever that howes is mafia. third post, goose justifies his vote on howes by saying "its just the best way to play right now". no hard evidence or any other kind of reasoning is being used, other than that goose "lives for the moment". so to restate what darius said, you're the one coming with crap reasons as to why other people are mafia. i suggest taking a step back and really thinking about what people are saying before you just start throwing claims left and right. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:33:47 Members viewing this topic (8): KoopZ, Darius, EnigmaticCam, dragondragon, In Hiding, Howes, Time, Extol. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:34:00 Has it ever occurred to you that if we are up against smart mafia players that they will prevent us from getting sharp evidence? -_- We might end up having to voting off of loose evidence one way or another. ._. Edit Reason: Grammar. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:43:08 i'd like to hear some more from other people who are viewing but not posting.... extol, some more from darius, among others. what do you guys think about all this? edit for small mistakes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 09:46:58 just realized that ivootjes STILL hasnt posted since he realized that the game started. where is he at? surely he's had enough time to catch up on the topic by now? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 09:50:29 I dont like all this talk of "obvious" or "definite" town and mafia. So far nothing is obvious or definite, so i agree with Koopz and In Hiding who say that the people who say things like that are likely mafia. So tyler is looking a little suspicious right now And Goose is just throwing stuff around, and like i said earlier, his reasonings dont make sense to me. for me he is the most suspicious. vote: Goose I dont want to look like im just following in Koopz and Tom's footsteps, cause im voting based on my own opinion, but i do agree with their suspicions/reasons. I think they are two pretty important townies, and if theyre mafia, right now they sure are fooling me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:50:57 Nothing definite is going to happen you dumbass. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 09:53:12 The only definite things are people's roles after they have died, cause in the game no one can provide hard proof of their roles. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 09:54:47 I'm enjoying this game already and I've barely posted! Mostly because almost every post seems to be people actually trying to play the game. This makes for a lot of reading and thinking though, so bear with me as I'm a slow thinker. A couple of things to start off: The reason why I like No-Lynch on first day is because mafia will lynch who they want, and there's nothing we can do about that. But on the first day it's very hard to tell who's really mafia, and the risk is too high we might vote out someone who's inactive, when they might be more active down the road. We need at the very minimum 1.5 days worth of posts before we can start making those decisions. But I think no lynch can only happen if everyone has posted a reasonable amount. Voting No-Lynch doesn't do any good if there are some who haven't contributed and the mafia can just kill them and leave us all back to square one. Here's my assesment of each person so far: 1) Darius Seems legit so far. A few posts to start off in the beginning, then later a good analysis of all the posts in between 3) Etch Seems content with voting out an in-active player. Otherwise, hasn't posted much. Hard to say at the moment. 4) Extol Did the right thing on voting me since I wasn't active to start off. The posts afterwards suggest honest analyzing, so far so good. I agree, trying to guess roles will just be confusing and won't amount to much. 5) Fababu Only 2 posts so far that I can see. I agree with this analysis of Pobre, but I would like to see more from him. 6) Goose One of the big talkers, as usual. Although I didn't read every post in the last few mafias, seems he was always talking a lot whether mafia member or not. First day in the game I think what he's doing is good by getting people riled up and talking, it will make for a good post history to refer to. Voting patern is very random, but this is ok on the first day. His analysis seems ok, but I don't like the over analyzing of word use, that seems a bit reaching. 7) Howes Interesting idea on posting without looking at your PM, but I don't see how it can be much help. The key to finding the mafia is to find mistakes or patterns that suggest someone is mafia, and they really won't be there if you don't even know who you are. He's looked at his PM by now, but I'd like to see more analysis from him when I know it's coming from someone who knows what his role in the game is. 8) In Hiding Hasn't posted till recently. On the fence without much to analyze. 9) Ivootjes Only one post so far? Now that I've posted a bit, I think the most inactive player yet. Let's see something from him soon. 10) karterfreak Seems to be doing things the same way I would, conent with getting people to talk by voting. I think voting no lynch so early isn't a good idea though, we should try to get more people to talk for as much of the day as we can 11) Kmacc Has made frequest assesments during the course of the day. Seems town to me so far. 12) Koopz Also has posted a number of times, all well-meaning with good assesments. Town in my eyes, at least for the moment. 13) Lenny Been gone the whole time, but he said that would be the case. Hopefully he comes back soon though, as he would be a prime mafia target with no post history to go back to. 14) MVT I agree with some, his aggressive style seems quite suspisious to me, though he has eased off a bit. I would like to keep him in the game a bit, as I think he does a good job in getting people to talk. I disagree though about the hesitency of claiming which pokemon you are. Mafia would be stupid to attempt to start a lynch by claiming they have the same one and calling you a liar. They would no doubt be the next targets since we would know the truth once you were lynched. 15) Padzup Seems legit so far. Adequately defends himself and seems to vote with sound reasons, whether they are good or not. 16) Pobre Another big talker, but would we have expected anything else? :) As with goose, I think the first few days this is good since it leaves a nice trail of post history. While I think people who put themselves out on the first day and talk a lot are most likely town, since Pobre already talks a lot it's hard to tell if that's what he's doing. But nonetheless, I think he should stay in the game a few days. 17) Sportsguy Not much post, but one good analysis I agree with. Seems ok, but I would like to see more. 18) Sword Seems very town to me, wants to do what's good for the town and makes strong assesments. 19) Syzygy haven't seen much, but I've agreed mostly with what he's said so far. Let's see some more. Vote: Ivootjes If Ivootjes can post something worthwhile by the end of the day, I'll take the vote off. All in all though, it seems like everyone is playing a good game. This will be fun, but difficult. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 09:55:56 Also, i would like to hear a bit more from Darius on the whole situation, last game he was one of the top analyzers and this game he should be pretty valuable again, given that he's town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 09:58:58 *grabs dictionary* alright; reading cams post now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/30/09 at 10:07:28 For Cooper and Extol: As should be pretty apparent, I think Pobre is playing terribly right now. If he is town then he's just confusing us all, making a strange defence of Tyler and jumping on Cooper for poor reasoning when Cooper provided far better reasoning than Pobre did. He's also pretty scattered in his thoughts and his logic is highly inconsistent, especially when he's basing it on his personal opinions of people rather than what they've posted in the game. That said, I think Tyler's 'obvious' comment is a suspicious choice of words. As Extol said, nobody should be sure of anything right now. For the same reason I'm suspicious of Goose being so sure Pobre is town and to be fair, the same criticism can be levelled at Tom for being so certain Goose is mafia. I know Tom likes to play on hunches but if other players are suspect for being certain without any strong reasoning, Tom should be too. Also, if he is mafia, I'm sure he'd play exactly the same way. I don't agree with some of Cam's assessments either: as I made clear earlier, I don't think Padzup's reason for voting for Kmacc was a good one and I think there's more to analyze from Tom than he indicates. Edited because it was originally addressed to just Cooper and so I had said 'you' instead of Cooper. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:12:17 Well cam pretty much told us that everyone is town. To be honest I feel that everyone is mafia so I guess it sort of balances out. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 10:14:33 Yeah, everyone seems to be playing the game quite well so far. I basically said I have no idea at this point. There are still some who haven't contributed much, and until they do, or until the day ends and we see who the mafia lynches, I'm on the fence on everyone for the most part. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:16:03 Time for a list update! ;D 1) Darius - Town 2) EnigmaticCam - Town 3) Etch - Town 4) Extol - Mafia, has a hint of paranoia and "properness" in his post. Almost like he's not trying to come off as to conspicuous while remaining town in everyone's books, i.e. "he's hanging on the fence of things." though this could just be him suspecting everyone else and he truly is town; loose assessment as usual; but then again; what do we have to make any concrete statements? nothing. 5) Fababu - Town 6) Goose - Town 7) Howes - Town 8) In Hiding - Town - Same with kooper.e 9) Ivootjes - Town 10) karterfreak - Town 11) Kmacc - Town 12) Koopz - Town - Is grouping; this seems to be a sign of being town rather than mafia. Mafia aren't dumb enough to group with each other; although this could be a cover up. 13) Lenny - Town 14) MVT - Mafia, made a really big slip up early on in the game and aggressively retaliated. 15) Padzup - Town 16) Pobre - Town 17) Sportsguy - Mafia, is acting to innocent. 18) Sword - Mafia, he has all the time in the world to chat in IRC but not the fucking game? 19) Syzygy - Town |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:16:47 Just a wild question; can mafia kill themselves? c-:] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 10:16:47 What makes me mafia, Pobre? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:18:08 The quite evident and eloquent fact that you are a flaming homosexual. No, I'm just kidding. ::) It's just people like Tom and Kooper seem to be "Grouping together" while you seem to be hanging on the fence of things. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:20:36 But on a serious note; I'm getting impatient. Nothing's happening; And I read a post that someone said find errors in posting patterns? fuck that shit; I'm not reading the past 8 pages again! [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 10:21:11 why would mafia want to kill themselves? they're already outnumbered as it is. and jeff, can you give us reasons as to why you think the people you listed as mafia, ARE mafia? try to give us something truly logical this time too, please. :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 10:21:40 After rereading my post, I really did say everyone is town, lol. Damn. Let's hope we get more inactives to post, cuz I really am hesitant to vote someone without any real evidence yet. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:21:59 Alright I'll try my best. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:26:41 shit i accedently edited my post with the reasons. -_- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/30/09 at 10:27:26 I would love to hear more from Ivootjes, Lenny (1 post each), Fababu (2 posts), and Etch (3 posts) These are our lowest posters by a fair amount; Lets hear more from you! unvote Vote: Lenny |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:28:36 There seems to be those who are asking for people to post and those who aren't. [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 10:30:24 i think lenny said that he was going to be gone until wednesday.... but ivo, fababu and etch dont really have much in the way of excuses. etch has a little bit of leeway cuz each of his posts contained (imo) something useful, but only a little bit of leeway. tyler is still suspect in my book, but i'm going to change my vote for now to try and get some talking going on. unvote vote: Ivootjes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 10:32:39 Members viewing this topic (10): Darius, EnigmaticCam, Time, Honko, karterfreak, KoopZ, Kmacc (replying), Sportsguy001, Syzygy, dragondragon. of the people viewing as of typing this, we havent heard from tyler and tim in quite a while. we havent heard too much from kmacc either, but he's typing as i type. tyler, where are you? you havent responded at all to any of my or others accusations of you being suspicious. since i voted for you initially, i'm definitely interested in seeing what you have to say. tim, we just havent heard much from you for several pages now, i wanna see your input too. edit - small grammar edit, and glad to see tyler finally replying! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:33:35 Well depending on how Tyler post; will determine whether or not he's mafia in my books. I'm not really sure if I voted after I unvoted. >_> I voted for kooper right? xD |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 10:34:39 @Matt: 49484E4156250 wrote:
If we are going to make anyone start talking more, it would be either: 1) Ivo -- who should have read the topic by now, or should be doing so soon. 2) Fababu -- who posted little last game and is doing the same now, you'd think he'd try to help not only us townies but himself by posting more. Both have been useless to this point, but the past game has shown that Ivo is knowledgeable and will contribute a good amount if he is town, so we shall see. Fababu needs to speak up more, otherwise he'll be the useless one that we lean towards lynching. vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/30/09 at 10:35:59 @ Pobre - So far I haven't seen anything too outstanding in post patterns, but I'm wondering why you are editing so much. I know things work in 2 ways, so it's either a) You are mafia going over your tracks to make you look innocent. b) You are just re-reading them to make sure you stay looking innocent to avoid a lynch. Other than that are you really just concerned about your grammar? x] Just read through before posting... @ koopz - I believe IVO posted once and said he acted surprised, as many have, as to the fact that the mafia game has started and there are already x number of pages (just had a thought, I think he said 7 so check page 7). He said he would post tomorrow but didn't specify a reason as to why he couldn't today. Edit: "Holy shit guys, 7 pages? When did this topic actually open? I'll read everything tomorrow." Anyone make anything of that? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:36:36 Why are people focusing on getting people to talk instead of actually playing the fucking game? -_- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:37:38 Yes; any mod that lurks me will tell you that I edit the shit out of my post to make grammar corrections because I post without thinking. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/30/09 at 10:38:52 Koopz don't hold my limited vocab against me. I don't think that anyone has done anything to implicate themselves as mafia as yet. I think that anyone's accusations of now are pure guesses and don't mean very much at the moment. Hopefully everyone will post more to get a better idea of where their allegiances lie except pobre. He has posted plenty. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 10:39:25 i know that ivo is a good player and willingly adds his input to the table, which is the main reason why i'm surprised he hasnt said anything yet. he has definitely had enough time by now to have at least browsed thru everything, and yet still hasnt posted his thoughts on the way things stand right now. until he posts both his thoughts AND a valid enough reason as to why he hasnt posted yet, my vote on him will continue to stand. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:40:44 Does mafia have to kill someone? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 10:41:43 Pobre, it's important to get everyone to talk. While none of it we can say for sure is true or not, the only things that are true are mafia kills, and from those we can derive patterns based on what people have posted. Can't really do that if people who were killed were inactive. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:42:23 Why not base your decisions off of when someone dosn't talk? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 10:47:02 Pobre, we can do that too, but it's better if we amass votes on someone who doesn't talk and they eventually DO talk, and then we can vote no-lynch and not risk killing someone who might prove useful later down the road. Otherwise, mafia will just kill off the someone who hasn't said anything the first night and leave us with nothing to go from there. Better us do it, and force the mafia's hand. I agree with KoopZ. My vote stays on Ivo unless he says something before the day is over. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/30/09 at 10:48:54 Pobre: Because you can't link that person to anyone else then unless the rest of the mafia blindly defend said person, which would be idiotic. If we get them to talk and we still end up killing them, then we'll have some more information based on what they posted, who protected them, etc. Also, I'll give Lenny leeway because he's gone until Wednesday, but the second he gets back, I want to hear some input from him. unvote Vote: Ivootjes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 10:49:00 1B38273A3C3B2F3D31787879480 wrote:
Alright; this guy has been viewing the topic for a very long time, and he rarely post; and when he does he is certain that I am town. I just find it weird the intervals in which he makes post; how long it takes for him to defend himself despite looking at the topic. And he said it himself; he's got poor english; thus; he's useless on ether faction; but then again; roles are closed; so he could very well be nether town or mafia. I think we should all bandwagon Sportsguy whether he's town or not; because he's suspiciously mafia; and if he's town; not so much of a loss there. :-/ Unvote Vote: Sportsguy001 |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/30/09 at 10:54:54 3F39353737540 wrote:
If we are going to make anyone start talking more, it would be either: 1) Ivo -- who should have read the topic by now, or should be doing so soon. 2) Fababu -- who posted little last game and is doing the same now, you'd think he'd try to help not only us townies but himself by posting more. Both have been useless to this point, but the past game has shown that Ivo is knowledgeable and will contribute a good amount if he is town, so we shall see. Fababu needs to speak up more, otherwise he'll be the useless one that we lean towards lynching. vote: Fababu[/quote] Ok ok; I'll speak more xD. Voting for Ivo only to forced him to talk is useless at the moment, I think it will be better if we give him some more hours and see how he develops. Pobre keeps making a great work with his analysis, the same as Cam; at this moment they are the two persons who more I believe in. Howes posts seems solid to me, and if he's mafia he's hidding well in my opinion. With this post I'm only refering to the last 20-25 pages above me, so I'll try to post again when I finish of read all the new ones. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 10:59:53 jeff - talking IS playing the game. thats the only way we can get any info as to what we as a town should do during the day. tyler - thanx for the post, but i now i hold you suspicious for a different reason, and that is this quote here: Quote:
after 11 pages worth of talk, i feel like we've definitely got some stuff to work with. granted its still not very much yet, but we still have data off of which to base our hunches. i'm going to unvote for now until i hear from ivo..... but i've got a bad feeling about tyler. unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/30/09 at 11:00:05 6569697675726374060 wrote:
Didn't see this post by you koopz. I've been in class today. I've looked suspicious in all the games we played so far so this game i've tried to post my thoughts on people to help the town as much as i could. As a result of this i get a vote against me for using the word "obvious" and then another from pobre bandwagoning with you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 11:03:01 Kooper; stop saying you're town alright? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/30/09 at 11:17:01 Koopz, I was implying with that quote to take everything as a grain of salt. We have no idea who is or who isn't mafia right now. We don't know to trust someone more than another person because they are a cop and have scanned someone at night. We don't know not to trust someone who is mafia because they are throwing votes in multiple directions. All i'm saying is nothing can be taken as truth or close to truth at the moment. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 11:19:44 ok, thats much better. i believe i'm still on an unvote right now, but just in case.... unvote tyler, do you have your classes in the mornings? and thats why you havent posted? i'm leaving for now, i'll be back in roughly 8 hours, or 10:30 pm CST. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 11:21:04 one more before i go, for viewing purposes. Members viewing this topic (8): KoopZ, Sportsguy001, Howes, Kmacc, Extol (replying), Fababu, Time, EnigmaticCam. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 11:21:08 75564954525541535F161617260 wrote:
As a previous mafia member, this is pretty much exactly what my posts looked like last game. Mafia try to steer the attention away from themselves, and at the same time they try to get everyone talking while not pointing out specific people too much. Also, mafia usually have posts that are just there, saying the same thing the people before them said, and not analyzing much. Therefore, i see tyler as quite suspicious because of this post. Kmacc has a similar posting style, although his was the same last game when he was town, so for him i dont think it means much right now. unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 11:24:21 Though i do realize several people are saying the same thing at this point in the game, so i cant say that what i said is the case with Tyler right now, so i'm not voting yet. But if it gets later in the game and people are still saying this, they will look suspicious to me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/30/09 at 11:24:22 Koopz most of my classes are sometime between 10:15-3:00 everyday, but sometimes the classes are so boring i will take my computer with me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 11:36:32 Townies: Etch Kmacc Sportsguy Pobre Mafia: KoopZ In Hiding Indifferent Everyone Else. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 11:37:22 Unvote Vote: Darius |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 11:38:12 465A5D5F5341554A03320 wrote:
I'll take that bet. In fact, my $30 to your $20. Deal? My $30 that both of us aren't to your $20 that at least one of us are. You are getting ridiculous +EV. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 11:43:49 617C706B68333C33040 wrote:
My reasonings don't make sense because you're too intellectually deprived to understand the Monty Hall problem. Fuck you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/30/09 at 11:49:00 Fababu, I assume by 'the last 20-25 pages above me' you meant the previous 20-25 posts before you made that one. This is a question for once you've read the rest: do you really think Pobre and Cam have provided the best analysis so far? 5F70737367706C52150 wrote:
You play the game by talking, Pobre. If we don't get people to talk then how are we supposed to work out if they're mafia? There were a lot of players last game who didn't say much and most of them were just townies being useless. It's in our best interest to get people to talk so that we can tell if they're mafia or town. Oh, and if you're going to vote for me, let's hear some reasoning. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 11:56:56 Darius, Extol and Koops are probably town. Everyone else is either not convincing enough or very sus - like Pobre and Goose. Koops, tylers still not out of the water for me. Unvote tyler Vote Goose |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 11:57:09 This is absolutely RETARDED. You guys are voting for Ivootjes because he hasn't spoken yet... which means his chance of being mafia is around 36%... You're accusing my vote for Howes at 72% to be suspicious when you guys are sitting there flipping coins. Anyways, I forget who brought it up with the gambler's fallacy, and while you're never "due" to be mafia the odds of you having consecutive towns do decrease. For example, the last 3 games were like 1/4th were mafia, then 5/19 were mafia, then 8/28 were mafia. Basically the odds of being town in all of these games in a row are (3/4)*(14/19)*(8/28) = 15% which is pretty low, them multiply this by the same 14/19 this game and it's even a bit lower, around 12%. However, now people have spoken. And now I don't need to rely on math to make a decision. I guarantee with my entire life that I am town this game. I don't know how to put this any simpler. The last games, I always admitted early to being mafia. This is just how I play. I'm town right now. The people that know this are the 5-6 mafia players. I'm also very renowned around here as being a great player, whether merited or not, so if I were mafia, the chance of me doing damage to the town would be great. The mafia also knows this. Therefore, it is in their best interest to gang up on me, call me mafia, and vote me out, since they know they can get this bandwagoned easily. Basically, I'm an easy target for lynches via mafia. It is in the mafia's best interest to vote to lynch for me because of my record, reputation and sheer fucking awesome. So basically take a look at who voted for me. It's always been fags like In Hiding. This guy is just far too cocky for my liking and always talks like he thinks he knows what's going on, when pretty much reading a pokerface through the tubes of the internet is next to impossible. He also placed that bet that at least one of Pobre and I were mafia, a deterrent to us thinking he is mafia. Unvote Vote: In Hiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 11:58:44 So Tom, you gonna take my bet? My $30 to your $20 that Pobre and I are not mafia. Any rational bettor would take this bet from your side unless they had knowledge of the outcome. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 12:02:22 Yeah i'll take the bet. I hope you have paypal :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 12:03:11 I sure do have PayPal! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 12:07:18 Goose, the logic is simple. Suppose we all lynch In Hiding and he turns out to be town. Then overnight, mafia lynches Ivo. What happens then? Ivo has said nothing, so we can't go anywhere with him. Is the risk of killing In Hiding and he ends up being a town member better or for worse than knowing whether he is a town or not? Is the discussion we've already had about Ivo worth potentially killing a town who has contributed? At this moment in time, I think it's too great. Much better for us to kill Ivo and give the mafia everyone else who all have said at least a few things, enough for us to go on without the unnecessary loss of another townie. Even MUCH better for us to scare Ivo with votes into talking, and then afterwards for us to remove the votes and go no lynch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 12:08:10 my votes staying on you boy. the money is mine and you'll be one mafia down. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 12:10:04 Goose, why dont you try to analyze people based on what they have said or done, rather than probability and crap like that. Howes doesnt count, his probability of being mafia is no different than anyone elses, unles he really is mafia. Im this close to putting my vote back on you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/30/09 at 12:10:39 Not sure about Goose, it's just funny he thinks he's hot shit at mafia when he's not doing anything extraordinary. It's all well and good looking at probability, but that isn't necessarily going to follow, obviously. I'm supecting Ivo and Fababu most at the moment. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/30/09 at 12:10:41 This sorta made me laugh a bit that money is involved in a mafia game. I wonder if either of you will hold up your end of the bargain, I say this as a witness to the bet! [smiley=lolk.gif] Edit: Removed the ^ at the beginning of my post. This post is directed at Tom and Goose, but a crapload of people responded before i finished typing it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/30/09 at 12:10:53 Goose, i tried using math last game and i was crucified. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:13:51 4267746F7375060 wrote:
You play the game by talking, Pobre. If we don't get people to talk then how are we supposed to work out if they're mafia? There were a lot of players last game who didn't say much and most of them were just townies being useless. It's in our best interest to get people to talk so that we can tell if they're mafia or town. Oh, and if you're going to vote for me, let's hear some reasoning. [/quote] Tyler: Assertion on Tom without evidence. Padzup: Assertion without evidence on Kmacc. Goose: Makes confident Post irrelevent to the game at hand. Howes: Makes guesses on roles and random guess on cam. Does not look at this role. Padzup: Suspects Howes Tyler: Knows that Howes is an expierenced player. Howes: Furthur claims he has no clue what his role is. Lennys: Begs not to be lycnched; guesses on mafia numbers. Kmacc: Questions my abilitys because I suspected him. Padzup: same for Kmacc. Extol: Insist on being patient. Darius: Votes against sword; mocks his ability to cover up his townieness. Syzygy: Votes against darius. Darius: Replies with an unncessarily long post basically saying that convincing people he's town is the sure way to go because he is most certantly town again. He has made a statement concerning how he will play again. Darius: Makes a post trying to convince everyone to get people to talk; he isn't really trying to convince people that he's town. KoopZ: makes a very odd post; concerning the nature of people posting, and coming off as very apathetic. He makes a no vote despite plenty of information to make a vote. Darius: makes yet another post concerning others posting patterns instead of not convincing people that he is a townie. He unvotes sword even though voting in the first place didn't exactly fall within the perviews of getting people to acknowledge him as town. This post especially has the aspect of confusion behind it. Tom: Points out the obvious; the law of averages. And suspects darius. Darius: does the same; suspects tom. and points out the Gambler Fallacy; it almost seems as though this exchange was rehersed. Tom: Diverts form his original attention; and starts suspecting me and Goose. Extol: Makes a post about being unsure about me. Tom: Makes a post about Goose being mafia's certantly. Almost as if Goose is gonna be the one to take the bullet for the team. Darius: Points out the flaws in Tom's posting pattern by calling them "unrelated points." Darius: Agrees about finding flaws in peoples posting patterns as to avoid being suspected. Koops: finds that no one is suspicious yet. Tom: Tells koops he's upping his game. Pobre: Trounces Tom. Tom: Retaliates by saying he is a badass basically and uses my post as a way to divert attention from himself onto me. Tom: Agrees with Koops.It is evident at this point that Tom, KoopZ, and Darius are grouped together, and that they are using both a townie (Sportsguy) and a Mafia member (Goose) to confuse the true townies. Kooper: Insults my intellegence, something I expected Mafia members to do before I even started the game. Kooper: Double post; diverts attention from himself by using ridiculas reasoning against me and sportsguy. Darius: Supports tom by pointing out the flaws in my logic concerning the law of averages. Something I did dilerbately to invoke a response.At this point I find it suspicious that these three entered the game in oddly similar ways. Koops: Responds to my trap; by calling Goose's reasoning unlikely. It's obvious that goose is being used as a scape goat at this point in time. Tom: Again; backs up Koopz with none other than "intuition" and futher reinforces this by saying thats how he's always played. Koops: Continues his last post. Koops: "wants to hear from more people." as a way to devert the attention of everyone else onto another subject as this is something everyone is coming to an agreement on. Cam: Makes a very long post basically telling that everyone is town. Pobre: I accuse Extol of being Mafia. Extol: He responds by asking why. Koops: Ask for reasoning. Dosn't seem to understand that I"m simply rattling the birds nest. Karterfreak: makes a completely oblivious post concerning lenny; leaning towards him being town. Unlike Tom, Cooper, and Darius who seem very organized in what they're doing, and Goose acting weird, and Sportsguy getting attacked leads me to rienforce my beliefe that there is a special and powerful role. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 12:14:02 didn't want to edit my last post. trust me, if you re-read my posts you will see that it would really not be a good idea to vote me off. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/30/09 at 12:14:51 @ Matt, that's why I've been putting peoples names at the beginning of my posts when I'm talking directly to someone ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:15:30 To some up my point. Darius, Koops, and In Hiding are all Mafia members in my book without a doubt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 12:17:12 @Fababu: I still want to hear more from you. I don't just want to see who you think is doing a good job, but also who you think is suspicious. @Goose: All that probability stuff means absolutely nothing, so hopefully you've dropped it for good now. Also saying Tom thinks he's full of himself concerning his mafia game skills is hypocritical because you act like you are champion at this game. Not only are you suspicious in people's eyes, but you're also quite annoying at times, so you may end up being a good choice to get lynched regardless if you're suspicious or not, unless you convince otherwise how you will help us to contribute without being so arrogant. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:17:28 Gonna have to go with Goose on this one now; Unvote Vote: In Hiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 12:17:29 "Is the risk of killing In Hiding and he ends up being a town member better or for worse than knowing whether he is a town or not? Is the discussion we've already had about Ivo worth potentially killing a town who has contributed? At this moment in time, I think it's too great." Maybe I just have a lower value of contribution in this game than most of you. I don't think you're necessarily more likely to be mafia if you don't talk. People have lives, shit happens, they're just not idling online for 14 hours every day, etc. I don't really see much downside of killing someone who has spoken and turns out to be town... that should be what is expected to happen as the first turn in these games. Just look at master chess players, they expect to lose a few pieces early on even though those pieces have done work for them and added value. Hmm, though I don't see why In Hiding would take my bet if he were actually mafia, unless he knew Pobre was also mafia, which I doubt. It's possible that the value of him lynching me and avoiding a basic admittance that he is mafia is over $20 to him, but I doubt this. If he were mafia, he would know I'm not mafia, and then taking +150 on Pobre being mafia when in reality this is about +300 would just be stupid... I'm going to have to admit that, although he is a penis head, In Hiding is not mafia. Unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 12:18:55 lol, you're a joker @ pobre. By the way matt, i have every intention of paying up if none of them are mafia. Thing is, I'm pretty sure one of them is. Anyone who accuses me may as well be mafia as i'm town, and I need to stay in the game to win. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 12:19:35 Ok for those who don't understand betting... I've dropped the math on my unvote. If Tom is mafia, he knows I am not mafia, and would not have taken my bet because it is a losing value bet. Even if it turns out Pobre is mafia, he still make a pretty bad bet at +150 since he should have been able to get the same bet for +300. Basically, this means Tom is not mafia... it has nothing to do with math and everything to do with rationality. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:24:23 I'm not betting shit, but if tom turns out to be mafia you're gonna give me half that fucking money goose. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 12:30:35 Pobre, the bet isn't that Tom is mafia, the bet is that neither me or you are mafia. I'm town, so if you're town then Tom owes me $20. If you are mafia, then I owe Tom $30. But Tom making this bet pretty much ensures he is town as well, since if he were mafia he would know that I'm not mafia and it would make the bet inefficient. So basically it all comes down to you Pobes ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:32:39 Tom's only making that bet because he's certain of his control over other people. He knows people don't take me seriously on these forums so it's near impossible for me to vote him out on Day 1. Only reason he's making that bet. He is Mafia. So is Darius, and so is Cooper. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 12:34:25 Well it is possible that Tom is mafia, and he is willing to take my bet to make it look like all the reasons I just explained pointing out that he is Town, which would be an amazing play from his side, but cost him $20. It depends on how much he values these $20. Does anyone know what he does for a living? If he is rich? If so, the odds of him taking a bet he knows he has lost to save his mafia ass will go up, but I still consider this an unlikely possibility. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:35:44 Bro, the fact that he even suspects me of being Mafia is a true token to how much of a shit player he is if he is town. On the contrary. If he's mafia; he's playing it god damned well. We have to lynch this fucker I'm telling you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 12:37:14 I'm rich enough to lose it. But I like to win and i'm betting that you or him is mafia. I've got pretty decent odds based on erratic behaviour and statistics aren't terrible. Either way I look forward to taking your money. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:39:13 Why you delete your post tom? :-? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 12:41:36 which post? I've not deleted my post at all. Pobre, I think you're acting a bit "scared", you shoudn't worry, as Goose said, its his money he's losing not yours! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:42:33 Would you like me to prove to you that you deleted a post? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 12:43:47 yes please |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:45:20 Admit that you deleted it; because I hyper camed it. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:48:48 I'm waiting. [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:54:48 Ok, you won't admit that you deleted a post; plus on top of that; you aren't responding as a sign of fear. Heres the proof. [smiley=ninja.gif] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pl2N71_3kvg&feature=channel_page[/media] Keep in mind the amount of time I gave him to confess. ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 12:56:42 Zoom in to see it closer. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/30/09 at 13:03:33 50565A58583B0 wrote:
At this point is easier to point who you think is suspicious than who you think is safe; cause the game have started a day ago. I've some names in mind, but it's only instict what makes me doubt about him, so pointing them at this level of the game only seems to me a new distraction for the townies. I'll keep them in silence until I have a material proof against him. 4C697A617D7B080 wrote:
No, they don't; but they have said somethings that makes sense and make me thought about their innocence. One of the things that I like of them is that they are fundamenting their opinions in how is the game going on; and not in odds like other people are doing. Time to sleep, see ya! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 13:07:22 umm, i dont think what pobres doing is legit? falsifying stuff like that? Can Alex confirm that I did not and have not deleted any posts apart from Marks which was a few pages ago? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 13:08:53 lol, i just watched it bigger, it just means a few people posted in between you clicking open the link. You pleb. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/30/09 at 13:09:31 But Pobre was the one who posted. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 13:10:49 Syzygy what exactly do you mean? kind of confused. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 13:11:18 two tabs open with the forum, the first one pobre posted in, closed it and opened the second one which hadnt been refreshed for a while? or someone deleted toms post |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/30/09 at 13:11:22 You can see he has many tabs open. Chances are you were the last poster on tab one and on another tab he posted so when he clicked on it his posts came up. Wait, looking closer, his post is at 0:35, whereas yours was 0:37 ;D Wtf? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 13:13:29 The confusion about Tom's post: For whatever reason, the post didn't show up right away. But I continued refreshing and eventually a page 13 came up and sure enough Tom's post was there. I know it was the same post cause it was the same time as the one I was looking for (4:37 my time). @Fababu: In that case, you should either a) Still post what is on your mind. This way you can actually help out rather than remain useless. b) Not have suspicions towards these people if you feel your reasons are nonsense. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/30/09 at 13:14:20 @ pobre - my previous previous response was to Tom, he said people posted in between his post being shown as last and you clicking on it to find ore posts. What I meant was that the last posts appeared to be yours, but that would only be possible by using another tab. I can't read the times of posting very clearly, but see previous post ^ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 13:15:32 http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4230/notmorethan1.jpg |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 13:18:42 LOL WHY ARE YOU LOOKING UP TWILIGHT Even I am not that gay to like such books and films. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:20:19 735C5F5F4B5C407E390 wrote:
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God damn it make up your mind man...no one takes anything you say seriously because you can't decide to save your life. Also every fucking post you make is saying he is definitely obviously town / mafia with no facts to back it up. Stop posting bullshit all day just to get 10k posts. I consider everything you have done to be garbage that isn't helping the town whatsoever. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:23:14 I don't understand what my "slip up" is either? :-? Suspects Sword - He says he will post more, we take are votes off of him and look he is silent again!!! Goose - Boldest player in the game, almost too much so. Sportsguy - I don't really know why but his posting style this game is fishy compared to last game when he was town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 13:24:48 1.) I was looking up twilight to confirm if there was an actor from "don't back down" in there. 2.) We aren't going to get any facts; MVT you fucking dipshit motherfucker. listen; we gots to start lynching fuckers right now! VOTE TOM! GET THAT FUCKER OUT OF HERE! HE'S A YANK! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 13:25:30 and goose is obviously some super duper legendary pokemon otherwise he wouldn't have the balls to post the way he is now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:26:10 Randomly lynching people you know are town...good mafia strategy...I think you are just a stupid town though. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 13:27:00 listen, mvt; you fucking cross dressing pussy piece of shit. In hiding is mafia. alright? you got that in your head? HE"S MAFIA. LYNCH THAT MOTHA FUCKA@! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:32:34 I can't believe that I am the only one putting any pressure on Sword. He posts nothing all of yesterday and then comes online, attacks me, votes for me, leaves and says he will post a lot more. So I figure you know what ok maybe his internet just sucks or something and he will actually try harder to post today and I remove my vote from him. I come home from school today and look, he still has posting NOTHING, and is again on irc. This is unacceptable. I have logged onto this forum with old windows 97 computers on a dial-up connection before and posted. I had to wait 3-4 minutes for a page to load but who the fuck cares I could still do something. His computer has the capacity to go on irc using the mIRC client and stay connected there all day. There is NO EXCUSE for not posting, and I am just about sick of all the bullshit excuses. The only thing this means to me is that he is mafia trying to slide by into later days without having to answer anything or do shit. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 13:33:51 interesting points... if i vote for sword will you?... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 13:42:14 That's interesting MVT, well Sword is posting now so let's see what he has to offer. Now that I think about it, I haven't seen Padzup or Howes post in a long while. I checked the thing that keeps track of posts and stuff, and sure enough they haven't posted in a long time. That's a bit weird though, cause neither of them were overly suspicious. Hopefully we will get some of their input soon on what's happened more recently. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 13:43:11 MVT is atop my list of possible mafia suspects. Vote: MVT I guess I let my emotions get the better of me in voting for Tom, but now that I see with a clear head, I will go back to my original statement (before I voted for Howes even) and that is MVT. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:45:35 Good for you Goose. I expected an amazing mafia player like you would not stoop to the level of basing your vote on a percentage like you did with Howes. I also would have thought that such a great player that you are , that you would at least offer some reasoning as to why you are voting for me? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 13:46:43 Great players don't need to use statistics or probability, the great players can "feel" it, and I can feel it coming from you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:48:27 Awesome I wish I was cool enough to feel energy waves through a computer screen! Wanna wager anymore money? Bet on me being mafia? I am feeling rather poor lately and wouldn't mind taking a little extra cash to go eat out. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 13:52:34 Whether MVT is mafia or not, your arrogance is extremely annoying Goose. At the rate you're going, if we have no good leads but don't go no-lynch, you are highly likely to get lynched for your stupid reasoning and just being annoying altogether. If you think he's suspicious, give a valid reason. Don't say you just feel it, that's stupid. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 13:55:26 Don't tell me that the best poker players always play by the book. They "feel" things too. I don't understand why people like Tom, Kmacc, Cooper, pretty much half the mods, all seem to hate me, when they are the ones in the position of power. I'm sorry that my character is so extravagant that it offends you but that's just who I am. If you like to associate yourself with lesser people to feel good, then do it, but unfortunately we're in this game together. In fact, odds are most of us are townies, so you will just have to put your emotions aside for the benefit of us winning this damn game. I've already stated why I think MVT is mafia. Just look at the way he is posting and the content of what he is posting... after all, isn't that the whole point of this game? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:56:56 it wouldn't be a gamble for me. Why would I be willing to lay down money on me being town if I was mafia? I would eventually die and lose that money. Anyways money on mafia game is just retarded and I am sorry to the town that I am stooping to that level with Goose. However I don't know what else I can possibly say when he just votes for me without any reasoning. At least when reasoning is given I can give an adequate response. When someone says I vote for you because I can sense you are mafia, than they are an idiot. Sword (better speak up) and Goose are going down soon. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 13:58:42 Well Goose if you were a town player you would try to help the town by giving the best possible explanation you can for every action you take. That includes trying to explain your gut feelings, give examples of why you feel that way, etc. You have done none of that. So by that logic you are more than likely mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 14:01:03 Do you know what reason is? Reason is how you feel things from an unbiased, objective point of view. Feelings are reason, unless emotion is involved. I have nothing personal against you MVT, so there is no emotion here. You had four votes early in the game and I was one of them. I feel that the reasons we brought up there haven't changed, and if anything you've only kept those feelings going throughout the rest of the thread so far. That is why I am voting you. For your convenience, I believe these statements were made on page 4 and continue until now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:01:17 Also note that I have still yet to vote for you today. I am being a rationale townie and trying to unbiasedly look at every possibility. Goose, you on the other hand have just been throwing votes around like snowballs. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 14:02:15 191C23223F2E0C2424382E4B0 wrote:
Then why have you been using statistics and probability basically the whole game if you're a "great" player?? vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 14:03:32 And holy fuck MVT, we went over why you could be mafia, we went over the probability of Howes being mafia, which whether you like it or not, was correct logic, and I went over why Tom is not mafia. Do you still think I'm mafia too? Besides, why would I want to give excessive information that could only help the mafia as well. There's a fine balance between posting enough to help the town and posting too much to help the mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/30/09 at 14:03:40 1F1A252439280A22223E284D0 wrote:
Then what was with all the statistical bullshit? :S I'm off to bed now which will explain my lack of activity for the next 16 hours or whatever. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 14:04:23 I agree with MVT. At 14 pages, by this point all votes should have some analysis other than "I feel it". I'm sticking with Ivo still. I think the mafia lynch tonight will make all of this much more interesting, and hopefully will be a big step into making the necessary connections. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 14:05:00 "Then why have you been using statistics and probability basically the whole game if you're a "great" player??" Because stats are the best way to guess who to vote for early on... pretty simple. Extol is also up there on the possible mafia to be honest, as he just finds errors in people's posting and claims they are mafia because of it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:05:27 Goose you keep referring to the past. Maybe it was that first boredom vote I threw out at you in the beginning of the game. Maybe you are upset by the fact that your bandwagon against me fell to pieces. Maybe you are just a mafia trying to redirect the town's focus back onto me, although I feel that I have provided the most proof and reasoning as to why I am not mafia compared to anyone else in this entire game. Either way you are not playing smart. edit face ---> fact |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/30/09 at 14:06:14 Seriously, what the fuck. I have been online but I haven't been checking this topic that much, just for your information. Tyler is posting the same way every game, he is possibly the hardest to sort as either mafia or town. His posts are always limited with detail, he seems pretty confident in trusting certain people, and I don't like this one bit. I'm suspicious of him, but not at the same time, it's just the way he plays. Nice to see Cam come back and put some input, we need him here making posts. Looking forward to seeing more from him. Ivo posted recently, nothing of which containing content. He needs to post something of some value soon, otherwise he will end up being disregarded. Everyone is posting alot more, which is a good sign. Should help us more this way, alot more to analyse! MVT, you really seem to be suspicious of me, just because I haven't posted heaps and heaps of useless crap which I could be doing, I tend to only post when I have something that's somewhat worth while. The way you are trying to bandwagon me is just ridiculous, because I've been around but haven't posted. I have been logged into IRC when I got home, and during the evening I find this. http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee130/SwordofSeals/WTF_MVT-1.jpg Seriously, what the hell you are trying to get from me, I don't know. But it just looks really ridiculous. I can't even sign onto IRC anymore without being interrogated. Unbiased? Are you sure? I have a feeling your opinions are slightly biased. For example, I don't see you attacking Padzup at all, when he has been around and not posted much either. Think before you speak. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 14:07:41 55506F6E73624068687462070 wrote:
THATS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, finding the slip-ups that people make that give evidence they could be mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:09:10 I have logs of irc that prove I have not even spoken a word in there all day. You are fucking dreaming about "interrogation". I can't even see what that picture is either. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 14:10:24 Goose [ch9829] wrote on Today at 6:05pm: Extol is also up there on the possible mafia to be honest, as he just finds errors in people's posting and claims they are mafia because of it. THATS WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, finding the slip-ups that people make that give evidence they could be mafia. Yeah, and me saying that statistics are not the best thing to use even though I've used them is clearly something that only a mafia would be capable of doing. If I were mafia, why would I be posting? Do you not think I've learned my lessons from the past games? It's my first time being town this game so holy fuck, sorry if I make mistakes. MVT and Extol are mafia, Goose, Pobre and Tom are not. Now lets go. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 14:11:39 7E4F46467E4B464F2A0 wrote:
I didn't even know there were 4 votes until I went back and checked :) I just voted for you at the same time Pobre did (I was replying as he posted iirc and I Didn't even know he voted for you) and then two others jumped in on it. Maybe those two are mafia bandwagoners but really it all happened too early in the game to make a judgment on it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:13:25 Goose - If you are town you are playing like a damn mafia. Sword - I reread that post. I love it! It is simply a pile of bullshit crap. Half of it has nothing to do with the damn game. If you can't take the heat than get out of the game. Stop whining like a little baby and post stuff that is game related. Also if you are actually town you have done nothing for us :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/30/09 at 14:15:22 You're far too foolish to be mafia. I'm sure you're town now, and you do the strangest things to find out stuff from people. Unvote We've established you're town, but god damn, you aren't helping by pressing on me just because I decided not to post. I haven't been at the computer all day, I haven't been on the forum all day, and It wasn't my first priority to post here as soon as I got home. I know I'm a terrible town player, but I'd like to try. Bandwagoning on me ins't going to get us anywhere. I want to hear more from Padzup. He hasn't posted, he hasn't been attacked, and his reasoning behind voting Kmacc was silly, and lacked decent reasoning. There are much more suspect people right now, and Kmacc is near the bottom of my list. I'd like to hear more detailed reasoning for voting him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:16:57 I also don't care if you guys kill me, you are just losing a worthless town player. While I am alive my goal is to try and be the most aggressive townie and catch them baddies! Of course all the while not being too indecisive or closed minded, and not posting as crazily as pobre has been. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 14:18:27 What's the current votecount? I'd like to get an idea on who's voted who |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:18:44 Solid post by Sword...no not because of the unvote. Padzup does need some questioning!!! However I feel that Goose is the most dangerous player in the game at this moment. Even if he ended up being town he wouldn't be a loss. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 14:21:42 72434A4A72474A43260 wrote:
That aggressiveness will most likely cause mafia to slip up, so keep at it i say. youre the "bad cop" in the game, but a good guy nonetheless, afaik |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:21:48 Another goal of mine is to rip into town dead weight any way possible. Not by voting them off but by at least kind of forcing them into posting once in a while. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 14:22:16 I do agree that Goose is causing some confusion, but I'm not convinced yet it's because he's mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:22:57 Neither am I cam. I just think he is being REALLY STUBBORN! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/30/09 at 14:23:02 EnigmaticCam : http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi This page should help answer your question, it shows who has voted who and for how long, along with post count total and other things. Check it out. If you ever need to refer to it again, check the first post of this entire thread. It's in it. Vote : Padzup I'd like to hear more from you, you spoke alot more last game compared to now, and you seem to be cruising through without noone having questioned you. If you explain why you voted for Kmacc and respond to this, I'll lift the vote off. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 14:26:15 Yeah, I saw that but it said it wasn't fool proof so I wanted to see if we could get another votecount. I'll go back and look myself just to make sure. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 14:26:29 5E045F5D575F550101340 wrote:
So you want to lynch yourself Etch? edit- fixed quote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 14:28:24 Good point MVT, Etch has been on the forum for a while but he hasnt posted. How bout some input Etch? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 14:30:15 Lenny and Ivo have posted the least, with 1 post each. Lenny's absence is understandable, but not Ivo's. Etch is trailing them in 3rd place for least posts, so I too would like to hear more from him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 14:34:57 Unvote Let's assume this: Town Goose Pobre MVT In Hiding Sword Mafia Extol Not a bad start? I can see by how Sword and MVT interact that they are on the same side... I'm not fully sure why everyone thinks I'm a dick mafia but I guess that's irrelevant because hopefully they trust that I am not. Vote: Extol For the reasons I posted on the last page. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/30/09 at 14:38:17 extol isn't mafia you mug. ffs. I'm going to bed as its almost mid night now but goose, fix up. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 14:59:16 5647726571727463547E65747B72170 wrote:
If IVO were mafia; he would've jumped to his defense a long time ago; he's been getting questioned for awhile now; so change your vote; because he is clearly away for legit reasons. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 15:04:13 All members should be ready to defend themselves, mafia or not. Why are you so sure he's town when he's only posted once in this thread? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 15:11:16 So town we need to band together soon and have a general idea on what we are going to do? Any consensus? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/30/09 at 15:12:44 5F3A3B3A0B0 wrote:
This is true with the exception that other people have questioned my motives a few times. Darius is the best example here. As for Kmacc I'll admit that my reasoning wasn't that great, I apologize for that but I hope that one vote doesn't tarnish my reputation for the rest of the game. If you have any other questions, by all means ask. I'm not trying to hide anything here, I just got a bit tired of posting since I didn't really get much out of it last game. Pobre stop fucking waffling. You give no reasoning for anything and don't actually contribute, you just post lists of who you think is mafia over and over that change every time even if only one person has posted. If you don't cut it out I'm putting my vote back on you. unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/30/09 at 15:18:59 And to add, I haven't posted because I've been at school all day. I started reading over an hour ago and finished shortly before posting. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 15:24:58 68595050685D50593C0 wrote:
We all need to agree on someone and then lynch him. We've had enough time now to see most people post and assess their actions. Who do we pick? I really think Extol is mafia as he hasn't argued otherwise. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 15:25:00 people who need to speak the fuck up! Ivootjes Lenny Etch Fababu People who need to be more constructive Howes - hasnt been on much all day karterfreak - all his posts have consisted of are arguing about whether we should vote or no-vote Syzygy - has said squat shit as far as anything that is productive. Talked on the first few pages jokingly, doesn't seem to care much about the game |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 15:26:26 Goose I have very good reason to believe that Extol is NOT mafia. I would say we should vote off 1 of those people on my above post. Especially considering the fact that at this stage in the game there is very little concrete evidence and if those people are town they are not helping the town at all. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/30/09 at 15:29:55 Thanks for the good response, Padzup. Seeing as you answered what I wanted to know, I'll lift the vote. Unvote Try and continue to post, though. We need all the information we can get. Staying quiet and sliding under the radar will do you no favours later in the game. Ivo is the only person who hasn't posted yet, excluding Lenny, but he is an exception. Ivo is an experienced mafia player and has always got something to post on the subject. Him not having posting detailed analysis like he has done in previous games yet is definately strange. I'm gonna place a vote on him to get him to speak up. Vote : Ivootjes Town, Day 1 is about 2/3's done, so tomorrow we will have to make a final decision on who to vote off. Hopefully before then, Ivo would have posted something defending his case by that time. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 15:34:48 6E6B545548597B53534F593C0 wrote:
We all need to agree on someone and then lynch him. We've had enough time now to see most people post and assess their actions. Who do we pick? I really think Extol is mafia as he hasn't argued otherwise.[/quote] heres my argument otherwise: Im not mafia. as i pointed out before, there are a few people who demonstrate posting styles similar to what i did last game when i was mafia. my posting is different than that, i believe i have made a few pretty good points so far instead of just rambling and reiterating what others have already said. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 15:35:10 Eh, I like your list MVT, but at least those people aren't helping the mafia either, so they're not bad to keep around I guess. I have no problem voting any one of those four out though, so pick one :) I think I'd rather keep Ivo around but Lenny and Etch have both played before and been decent, so maybe we should pick off one of them. Fababu if I recall correctly isn't really a threat. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 15:37:51 You're all fucking retarded. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 15:38:51 Fababu seems to also be posting similar to when he was mafia previously, not really saying anything of value, and not posting much at all. I know last time he wasnt around a lot, but he still should post something of value when he comes around. Etch needs to say something soon, he has been on and off without making a post. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 15:39:17 If we were going to lynch one of the four less active players (Lenny, Ivo, Etch, Fababu), my vote would stay on fababu. Lenny - He's away, so we can't do much about that for now. Ivo - I'm also surprised he hasn't gotten back with any analysis yet, but he is usually strong with this stuff. Hopefully something comes from him soon, otherwise he is more vulnerable. Etch - I know Etch is a busy guy, so I give him that benefit of the doubt. Still would be great to see a post from him sometime today with some sort of analysis. Fababu - Right now, he is holding in his suspicions which I don't get. He's being useless at the moment, and did this in earlier games, where he was either mafia or a weak town player. I also really want to hear more from Howes. He has basically only posted saying he didn't check his role right away, and defended himself a bit against Goose. He hasn't posted in quite a while, so I don't know if it's because he's busy or not. Otherwise, he is just as useless as someone who hasn't really posted at all to begin with at this point. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 15:40:51 I guess thats all I got to work on; there are to many people man; we got to round the numbers down a bit to level the playing field. Unvote Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 15:45:17 Why not. It is reasonable for the time being. Let's all get this wagon started. Unvote Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 15:46:01 People who havn't defended themselvs against me are most likely Mafia. This has been my strategy for all of today. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/30/09 at 15:51:13 Wow. Complete Catch-22 here. If I post, I look suspicious because my words will be twisted against me. If I don't post, I look suspicious for looking too quiet, and for 'attempting to sneak by unnoticed.' I'm hesitant to vote right now, as it will either look like I'm bandwagoning or like I'm doing something stupid. Is there anything I can do to not look guilty as a town player? We seem to be doing a good job of making everyone in the game look suspicious for no reason, but have we really found anything? BTW, senior year sucks right now. Too many projects. I'm doing work at home, and surfing the internet at school. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/30/09 at 15:54:40 I don't think anyone was trying to start a bandwagon, we just wanted a general idea of what we planned on doing tomorrow. The Day isn't over yet :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 15:57:53 Yeah but having a day last 3 days gets boring. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/30/09 at 16:11:05 I'm going to bed now ... It seems the general vote has switched to Fababu. Hopefully he'll post something good tomorrow that makes him seem less suspect, because alot of people find him suspicious right now, including myself. I'm going to keep my vote on Ivootjes for now though, mainly because I want to hear something from him before the day ends, as I know he has something to say about all this. Having a day that lasts 3 days does get boring, but rushing them and ending them sooner then they should will damage the town, as we have less posts to work on, and it will be harder to make proper analysis. I don't want to end the day now because Ivo hasn't said anything yet and we could still find out a little more info. The day feels like it is moving very slowly and is becoming boring because its the same people talking, and the same things are being covered and discussed. People who spoke more in previous games aren't speaking as much this time. Hopefully more people will post tomorrow as it will be the final 24 hours that remain of Day 1. (A.k.a, the most important part) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/30/09 at 16:29:40 Is there anyone who HASN'T been voted for today? ::) [3] Ivootjes - EnigmaticCam, (Koopz), karterfreak, Sword [3] Fababu - Kmacc, Pobre, Goose [2] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre) [0] Koopz - (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 24.5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Etch on 03/30/09 at 16:54:37 Lot of pages to look at, lol. So yea, I don't sit on my ass in front of a monitor all day. Sorry. ::) I don't like voting early on because I like to sit back and see what everyone is bitching about. There's a lot of bullshit but it is getting interesting now. Pobre is just ranting you guys, I think actual mafia players would not be so drawn into what he has to say because how can you take his random conjectures seriously? There are the usual lot of town players who look like mafia but really aren't. What's with Goose's math? lol Fucking Tom and his poker face, I hope you are town again too. Since some people haven't played mafia before, it's nature to be suspicious of them. As the game goes on I'll feel more confident if they are town or not. I know past games shouldn't be used to figure out what is going on this time but I am in favor of keeping possibly town players who haven't said a word yet over those who might sabotage us. Fababu will kill town no matter what team he is on, lol. After the first night, hopefully we get a better hunch of who to lynch because we need to take down mafia guys with power roles asap. [smiley=uzi.gif] Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/09 at 18:31:59 Hey guys, everything alright? :D For some reason when i'm away for like 50 hours i always have to read through the biggest amount of bullshit, but when i'm active nobody seems to be around. I don't really feel that bad about missing the first part of day 1, as i don't really like the "bullshit" phase in the game. Its not like there's that much to talk about early on. At least we still have like 24 hours to go so i should be able to convince everyone that i'm town. I can understand those votes on me though, it's always better to get rid of the useless players. I won't be useless after this anymore though. 1) Darius - has only tried to get the non talking players to talk. Hasn't commented a lot on what other players have been saying except for correcting the idiots that think that throwing heads 3 times in a row increases the chances of throwing tails next time. Isn't as convincing that he's town as last game, but that could also be because we're just in day 1 2) EnigmaticCam - has made some big write ups that i didn't read carefully enough yet, i'll get back to you later. 3) Etch - is lazy and maybe mafiosi, or just lazy 4) Extol - hmm, i'm never sure about extol 5) Fababu - seems to be on the same path as last game. What's up with that? 6) Goose - Has totally changed his style compared to last games that he played. He's causing less confussion and adds usefull info from time to time 7) Howes - Straight out told everyone that he didn't look at his role. IF this is the truth then i seriously dislike the move. It creates confussion and shifts attention away from what we're supposed to do: finding mafia. I don't think goose is crazy for finding this is suspicious, as it is. 8) In Hiding - His style seems different this time around. Hasn't sworn on his families life yet that he's town. (not that i care about this stuff, it's just seems to be a big deal for him and he has been using it as "proof" in the last 3 games) 9) Ivootjes - has been useless until now but is going to help out. 100% town 10) karterfreak - i'll get back to you later 11) Kmacc - same here 12) Koopz - same here 13) Lenny - said that he wouldn't be around the entire first day. This sucks. 14) MVT - I think he's town based on his same style as last game and his active scum hunting. 15) Padzup - Not nearly as convincing as last game. You can do better than this padzup. 16) Pobre - big time poster, who are most often town. I like to see him around for some more time. If he turns out to be mafia then in hiding needs to go down as quick as possible ::) Oh, and asking what somebody's specific town role is usually doesn't help out town, only mafia. 17) Sportsguy - always makes short posts and is hard to read. I suggest putting pressure on him on day2/3/4 as he seems to become more helpful when being close to death. ::) 18) Sword - nothing yet, more to come tomorrow 19) Syzygy - nothing yet, blabla Oh, and i think that taking bets is outside the scope of the game. Do you guys really have to do that bullshit? :( I do not vote for now, but making this kind of write ups always help me clear up my mind so i hope that i'll be able to make a correct vote tomorrow, by which the topic will probably have grown by another 20 pages, along with some info from me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/30/09 at 18:34:13 Oh, and i'm going to bed now guys, but ill be sure to be around when tomorrow ends. And i'll check the topic when i wake up tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/30/09 at 18:50:22 Well, now that Ivo is active he should be helpful if he's town. I'm going to keep my vote on fababu, as I feel right now he is either mafia, or the weakest link and therefore not going to hurt us in the long run. Fababu has a bit of convincing to do tomorrow if he wants to stay alive imo. Anyways, I'm heading to bed as well. I have classes tomorrow from 8:40-7:15 EST (yes, ouch), so I won't be around for basically the entire day. I'll try to check the topic when I wake up tomorrow and see if I can post anything. By the time I get home from school, it'll be about 8:30 pm, and the day ends at 9:00 pm my time, so it's a close call for me to change my mind if other events occur. I'll try to keep up with the topic a bit from the web browser of my phone, but my phone is a piece of garbage so I'm not gonna guarantee. Hopefully more is discovered and we lynch a mafia tomorrow! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 19:16:26 jeez guys, 5 pages in 8 hours? i'm back like i said i'd be, but i'm gonna run out again for another hour or two, so i'll be back hopefully by midnite CST to catch up on and add my thoughts on things. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 19:29:37 is that too many or not enough koop? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 20:00:38 Ivo comes back with a bang :) Unvote Vote: NoLynch At this point, I'm satisfied with everyone's postings. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/30/09 at 20:39:36 I think that is a poor move. It really helps the town to see VOTING PATTERNS and habits later on in the game...no-vote serves no purpose and gives the mafias a free set of kills at night. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/30/09 at 21:02:31 5F5A656479684A62627E680D0 wrote:
How would they be not helping mafia? By not posting much they're drawing suspicion onto themselves while the mafia can sit back and accuse them of being suspect. I'm not really understanding what you're saying here and the fact that you have a noncommittal attitude about whom of the four to vote off bugs me. Lenny hasn't even posted, and if he were maf he wouldn't be here to do night actions tomorrow night anyway! Someone being good at mafia doesn't warrant taking them out, it just means you have to watch them a bit more closely. Not to say that he is absolutely mafia but Fab would be a threat in that he'd be in a pretty comfortable position if we ignored him since he'd be safe for the majority of the game and he'd be able to perform most kills. If he were a power role it'd be a double-whammy. "If I recall correctly": how would you know whether he is or not? You never really gave any evidence as to why he wasn't worth considering. Extol seems to be contributing actual information so regardless of his role it would be a good idea to keep him around for a bit longer. You also pulled Extol pretty much out of nowhere when you suggested he be lynched, Goose. I don't really like that, especially given that I've been ragged on a lot for improper reasoning when you and Pobre have given next to none. You've talked a lot about probability and now that you can't pull that card anymore you're just throwing around accusations that look like they are somewhat thought-out because of your confidence. Everyone else seems to excuse Pobre for being new to mafia. IMO he's smarter than that so I don't think that is justified, if he wants to prove he is town he can do that by contributing. The same goes for you. 424778796475577F7F6375100 wrote:
You're contradicting yourself and acting like Tom and his stupid gut last game. Your arrogance may seem to you like a valid play but you're coming on too strong for it to work. 0B0E31302D3C1E36362A3C590 wrote:
Have you? Looking through earlier posts you state that you already went over why you think MVT is mafia but I have failed to see any actual content, just you accusing him over nothing. 494C73726F7E5C7474687E1B0 wrote:
Is one of the worst excuses ever... people take long to check topics. Sometime you're on another site... it doesn't matter if you don't check the topic immediately. Saying you were taking a shit is obviously an excuse, whether true or not, to cover up the fact you're mafia.[/quote] How is this "obviously" an excuse? You say it would still be an excuse if it were true, which makes no sense whatsoever. 17122D2C3120022A2A3620450 wrote:
What is this, a pissing contest? You say he must be mafia because you're cockier? What kind of logic is that, really? 0C0936372A3B1931312D3B5E0 wrote:
Tim said this about me after he nightkilled me last game. The entire point of the game is to deduce who is mafia from pointing out slip-ups in their posts, if you missed that then you obviously aren't as good a player as your reputation implied. And then: 494C73726F7E5C7474687E1B0 wrote:
17122D2C3120022A2A3620450 wrote:
:-/ I am going to side with Extol here especially since you seemed so keen to lynch him right after he voted you. Overall you seem to be desperate to get people lynched quickly without reason. I don't like that one bit. Regardless of your role you've made some pretty shitty moves so far. vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 21:25:32 I'm not the one who built this reputation for yourself. Don't blame me for being cocky, blame everyone else who thinks so highly of me. Regardless, your vote is a bad one because I'm town. I swear on everything I own, owned, will ever own, both tangible and not, that I am town this game. Why, in your clusterfuck of analysis do you not consider the bet I made with Tom? Isn't that... you know IMPORTANT because it deals with something not directly related to the game (money?) And man, look at the time stamps and the content in between... maybe there is reason for me to change my mind. Maybe I'm a bad town player. Think twice before you vote for someone because you don't like their style. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 21:26:16 ok, finally caught up, and here are some of my thoughts: tyler's suspicion has gone up again in my book, especially cuz of extol's post about his posting style in previous games. in the other games, tyler's posts were usually pretty informative, but now he's consistently being vague and after rereading his defense that i asked for, its pretty much just asking me to not vote for him cuz its too early in the game yet..... and i dont like that. jeff continues to throw accusations around without using any kind of logic, and this is annoying as fuck. give me one solid reason as to why you think me, darius and tom are mafia, seriously. goose continues to be extremely cocky with his posting, which is hiding the fact that he's not using any real logic either. "great players just have a 'feel' for the game", wtf is that? he's also been inconsistent with his own accusations and who he thinks is mafia, and that makes me doubt him alot. people that i'm surprised havent posted much: tim/syzygy, karterfreak, etch. i'm especially surprised that matt has posted almost next to nothing for quite a while now when in the past games he was one of the key info providers, especially in the early stages of the game. etch's reason for not posting is almost exactly the reason i knew he would give, but it still leaves me wondering if there's another reason for it. tim's posts on the whole ive noticed havent been too terribly informative either, and they've been few and far between for there being 16 pages of stuff already. i wanna cover my thoughts on everyone thus far, so i'm gonna do list thingy like others have done. see next post! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 21:26:59 And wtf "there's no reason to lynch people so quickly." Are you kidding me? Odds are the first lynch is a townie, it's always been that way... I don't like slow moving games and I'm not one to lay back and watch things unfold, at least not in games. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 21:37:07 "goose continues to be extremely cocky with his posting, which is hiding the fact that he's not using any real logic either. "great players just have a 'feel' for the game", wtf is that? he's also been inconsistent with his own accusations and who he thinks is mafia, and that makes me doubt him alot." Why do you think I'm inconsistent? Could it have something to do with the fact that it's early in the game and we don't really have anything good to go off? And whenever I make a good logical point using probability (after all, we can never know who is mafia) people throw it out as good evidence? Why does everyone hate me and distrust me? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/30/09 at 21:47:47 [4] Fababu - Kmacc, Pobre, Goose, Etch [3] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, Padzup [2] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), karterfreak, Sword [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre) [0] Koopz - (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 19 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 21:55:05 heh, tim (syzygy) and matt (karterfreak) are the only two that havent got any votes yet i wont change that :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 21:59:05 1) Darius - only has 11 posts, but each post (as i recall) was informative with some good insight about various players. if he's mafia, he's doing damned good, but i'm pretty sure he's town. 2) EnigmaticCam - was kind of inactive at first, but as made up for it in my opinion. some good analysis, and generally staying active and with a genuine seeming desire to wanna help out the town. 3) Etch - only 4 posts so far. like i said already, the reason he gave is the reason that only he would give, but it still makes me wonder. he was kinda quiet in previous games, but not this quiet... i'm iffy about him. 4) Extol - 22 posts so far, and i'm convinced he's town cuz of the insight he gave about how he posted as a mafia player in the previous games and then linking it to the way tyler is posting. i'd be surprised to see any votes against him at this stage in the game. 5) Fababu - only 4 posts, and they've been few and far between. kinda hard to say. i'm suspicious of him simply cuz he chose to hold in his accusations, and i find that to be a weird action if he's a town player. we've been trying to get everyone's opinion on everyone, and he blatantly holds his back? could be mafia, but i'm unsure. 6) Goose - retardedly cocky posting style makes me think he's mafia. i also wish he would use better reasoning with his own accusations instead of going back to probability, then saying he's just got a "feel" for the game. also as i stated above, he's been inconsistent with his accusations, and that makes him all the more suspect in my book. 7) Howes - pretty sure he's just a town player that hasnt had a chance to be as active as he wants to be yet. i havent seen him looking at the topic too much, and he's only got 9 posts so far, so im not gonna lay any heat on him. 8) In Hiding - continues to go with his combo of intuitive/analystic reasoning, and as has been proven before, this makes him a very good player regardless of which side he's on. i'm mildly suspicious of him however, for not swearing so adamantly right away that he's a town player. not enough to warrant a vote on him, but just enough for me to mention it. 9) Ivootjes - 3 posts, seriously? until he becomes consistently more active, i'm going to be suspicious of ivo simply due to his lack of activity. i'm gone from my own house the vast majority of most days, and i still find time to waste a few hours on the internet, and i spend most of my internet time on the boards. IMO, he's had more than enough time to browse the forums and catch up on the topic. i really hope he posts more, for his sake. 10) karterfreak - has posted more than i thought with 12 posts, but has been inactive for the past few pages. 12 posts also isnt all that much now considering the number of pages we have, and i'm wondering why he's not posting as much. i dont think he's mafia though. 11) Kmacc - not sure what to think of him. i'm leaning towards him being town, but there's a few posts of his that made my eyebrow raise. will have to go back and reread his posts. 12) Koopz - 23 posts now (including this one), and i feel like i've been pretty rational so far in both my analyses and my voting. i'm confused as to why more than one person have said that i seem apathetic.... do i always seem that way? :-/ 13) Lenny - gone til wednesday. not much to really say about him. 14) MVT - a very aggressive posting style that got some heat directed towards him almost immediately. i think he's got good intentions though, despite some of the things he's said and the way he's worded them. i would like to see him stick around the first couple of days cuz i think the way he does post is an asset to the town. 15) Padzup - upon reading his more recent posts, i've become more suspicious of him. i'll have to get back to you with specific reasons though, gotta reread his posts to get a better idea of why i'm suspicious. 16) Pobre - has the most posts so far by a pretty large margin, and has been either throwing accusations randomly, or calling other people's reasons shit for no apparent reason. alot of the reasoning he uses for his votes and accusations have next to no basis in logic. very paranoid playing style, and like i already said, its annoying as hell. learn some logic please. i would honestly be surprised if he was mafia though. 17) Sportsguy - nearly positive he's mafia. he's been pretty vague with all of his posts so far, and upon rereading his defense posts that i got him to write, they're pretty bad. asking me to forgive his limited vocab and then saying that alot of our votes mean nothing at this stage cuz we have no info when at the time of that post there was already 11+ pages of posts.... then his other posts werent too hot either. extol also pointed out that the way tyler's posting is the way that he (extol) posted in the previous game when he was mafia. highly suspect IMO. 18) Sword - not too sure what to say about him. will go back and reread his posts. i dont like his excuse about having a shitty net connection though, whether its true or not. 19) Syzygy - 15 posts, but i kinda expected more out of him. along with matt and etch, i'm wondering why he's not posting as much. i do remember him being kinda quiet in the other game due to his power role for town, so its possible he's doing the same thing again.... but he could also be mafia. i'm kinda suspicious, but not enough for a vote. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 21:59:58 But they do both need to post something more helpful, their posts have been vague for the most part so far. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/30/09 at 22:05:32 Why don't people stop being stupid and realize that it's almost impossible to tell who is what through a fucking computer screen? There is no rationality or reason in this game. Either you're mafia and you know exactly who is town, or you're town and you don't have a fucking clue. I'm fucking sorry that I'm town this time and don't know how to figure out who the fuck is mafia. I'm sorry you are all so brilliant at seeing things through a fucking computer screen and that I'm letting my fellow townies down by not being very good at this. When I was mafia it was so fucking easy to pick on everyone and say random shit knowing they were town but now it's a hell of a lot more difficult to figure out who is mafia because I don't have a fucking list of townies. You know, this is analogous to real life. In real life, I got everything I ever needed, the easy way. People gave it to me. In mafia, I was mafia twice. I had the easy play, I knew who was what and it was easy for me to play. Now, in both life, and mafia, I am thrown into the hard situation. The one you need to learn, develop and work for... and I can't fucking do it. I'm just a fail of a person... yeah, I'm confident on the outside, so much so that this only leads to people going "this guy is too confident, let's take him apart" which reveals the wussy, failure inner me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 22:05:55 5C5966677A6B4961617D6B0E0 wrote:
i'm not hating on you. while i dont really think your probability evidence is 100% valid here in the game, i dont fully understand it enough to actually have a valid opinion on it myself (i'm not really very good at math). and dont bother trying to explain it to me, cuz you've said yourself now that since everyone's talked it doesnt really help now anymore. and the stuff that we do have on people is about as good as its gonna get at this stage in the game, so why not go with some of it? especially if it makes sense? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:06:40 Thats funny how everyone that is mafia calls my reasoning shit; Kooper excluded; while everyone that is town says I've contributed alot and made very reasonable post an analysis. You seem to have this retarded idea in your head, and it's why I call you a retard; that I have to base my thoughts on "reason" and "logic" and not my own intuition this early on in the game. If you looked at all the post in this thread you would realize that there is nothing that suggest a person is mafia so far; and the suspicions people have listed so far are shit; I don't have to explain why you damn well know it. I have been throwing around wild accusations to provoke a certain response. I guess you were to mentally deficient to understand such grand concepts you apathetic imbecile. :-/ Edit Reason - Grammar. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:08:23 01043B3A2736143C3C2036530 wrote:
Fucking quoted for truth. People like Darius, Cooper and In Hiding play this game like fucking retards. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:12:04 I meant to quote the first segment not the emo segment. >.> |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 22:12:26 jeff, you're right in that intuition DOES play a large part in all this.... but we use logic to try and match that intuition with what we're actually seeing from people's posts. you cant just solely rely on your gut the whole entire game. tom excluded. :P and why do you continue to have it out for me, darius and tom? you've yet to explain yourself on that score. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:16:12 I've explained it, a MILLION Fucking times! look, You three are grouping together; I'm not going to fucking go back pages and pages, pick out specific fucking quotes as to why I feel this way, because I"M TOO LAZY TO DO THAT. Now thats not just all; I know In Hiding's intuition is very strong; he's notorious for it; yet he suspects me? I'm new to this game, and I'm a townie, and I'm playing like a noob fucking townie at that. Where the fuck is toms intuition now? Why are you and him exchanging post? hang on, I'm going to show you my "logic" and "reasoning" Ima go dig that quote for you so you can shut the fuck up about it already. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:16:53 4C63606074637F41060 wrote:
You play the game by talking, Pobre. If we don't get people to talk then how are we supposed to work out if they're mafia? There were a lot of players last game who didn't say much and most of them were just townies being useless. It's in our best interest to get people to talk so that we can tell if they're mafia or town. Oh, and if you're going to vote for me, let's hear some reasoning. [/quote] Tyler: Assertion on Tom without evidence. Padzup: Assertion without evidence on Kmacc. Goose: Makes confident Post irrelevent to the game at hand. Howes: Makes guesses on roles and random guess on cam. Does not look at this role. Padzup: Suspects Howes Tyler: Knows that Howes is an expierenced player. Howes: Furthur claims he has no clue what his role is. Lennys: Begs not to be lycnched; guesses on mafia numbers. Kmacc: Questions my abilitys because I suspected him. Padzup: same for Kmacc. Extol: Insist on being patient. Darius: Votes against sword; mocks his ability to cover up his townieness. Syzygy: Votes against darius. Darius: Replies with an unncessarily long post basically saying that convincing people he's town is the sure way to go because he is most certantly town again. He has made a statement concerning how he will play again. Darius: Makes a post trying to convince everyone to get people to talk; he isn't really trying to convince people that he's town. KoopZ: makes a very odd post; concerning the nature of people posting, and coming off as very apathetic. He makes a no vote despite plenty of information to make a vote. Darius: makes yet another post concerning others posting patterns instead of not convincing people that he is a townie. He unvotes sword even though voting in the first place didn't exactly fall within the perviews of getting people to acknowledge him as town. This post especially has the aspect of confusion behind it. Tom: Points out the obvious; the law of averages. And suspects darius. Darius: does the same; suspects tom. and points out the Gambler Fallacy; it almost seems as though this exchange was rehersed. Tom: Diverts form his original attention; and starts suspecting me and Goose. Extol: Makes a post about being unsure about me. Tom: Makes a post about Goose being mafia's certantly. Almost as if Goose is gonna be the one to take the bullet for the team. Darius: Points out the flaws in Tom's posting pattern by calling them "unrelated points." Darius: Agrees about finding flaws in peoples posting patterns as to avoid being suspected. Koops: finds that no one is suspicious yet. Tom: Tells koops he's upping his game. Pobre: Trounces Tom. Tom: Retaliates by saying he is a badass basically and uses my post as a way to divert attention from himself onto me. Tom: Agrees with Koops.It is evident at this point that Tom, KoopZ, and Darius are grouped together, and that they are using both a townie (Sportsguy) and a Mafia member (Goose) to confuse the true townies. Kooper: Insults my intellegence, something I expected Mafia members to do before I even started the game. Kooper: Double post; diverts attention from himself by using ridiculas reasoning against me and sportsguy. Darius: Supports tom by pointing out the flaws in my logic concerning the law of averages. Something I did dilerbately to invoke a response.At this point I find it suspicious that these three entered the game in oddly similar ways. Koops: Responds to my trap; by calling Goose's reasoning unlikely. It's obvious that goose is being used as a scape goat at this point in time. Tom: Again; backs up Koopz with none other than "intuition" and futher reinforces this by saying thats how he's always played. Koops: Continues his last post. Koops: "wants to hear from more people." as a way to devert the attention of everyone else onto another subject as this is something everyone is coming to an agreement on. Cam: Makes a very long post basically telling that everyone is town. Pobre: I accuse Extol of being Mafia. Extol: He responds by asking why. Koops: Ask for reasoning. Dosn't seem to understand that I"m simply rattling the birds nest. Karterfreak: makes a completely oblivious post concerning lenny; leaning towards him being town. Unlike Tom, Cooper, and Darius who seem very organized in what they're doing, and Goose acting weird, and Sportsguy getting attacked leads me to rienforce my beliefe that there is a special and powerful role. [/quote] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:18:25 Don't just read the first post and neglect the second, faggots have been doing that to me alot in this game, You will read both post; reply to both post; or i'm not gonna listen to SHIT YOU GOT TO SAY! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:22:14 Basically my consensus is this; read my quoted post; the behavior between you three is something I analyzed from the start; and it seems WAY off key with everyone else and everything else; and you seem to be strongly in "control" of what others do. Goose seems to be a weird player; like he's nether mafia nor town; or a scapegoat for the mafia or something else; We don't know wtf the roles are and I suspect they are the reason why no ones detected mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:23:06 You three also seem to support eachother or suspect eachother when the time calls for it as a method of confusing or evasion. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:26:46 I also believe there are more mafia players than usual. And don't get the wrong Idea: I have 11k post on these forums and I've been here since mid 2003. And I've been on the internet since 1999 or so. I grew up a good portion on the internet; i can very well read peoples emotions better than most when it comes to written words. >_> Take me for a fool all you want; because I'm not trying to get definitive answers at this point; The moment a mafia members makes the slightest slip up, I will detect it; but then again; it's all a matter of getting fellow townies to trust me. And you know first hand that when it comes to presenting my reasoning "logic" and all that shit, my form is very poor. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/30/09 at 22:28:28 I'm going to sleep now. BYE BYE! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/30/09 at 22:29:53 Goose, don't attempt to over analyze on the first day. Of course you're going to be overwhelmed and not sure what to do, but that's how it goes the first day. But you seem to be very inconsistent in you're attitude. One minute you're the brilliant Einstein with everything figured out, the next you have no clue at all. Is this perhaps an attempted change in strategy as mafia then what you've tried before? You're putting yourself out there and that's good, but don't over do it. You're really beginning to look more and more mafia to me. I'm heading off to bed, and I have a couple meetings tomorrow at work so I don't know if I'll make back here in time before the day finishes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 22:30:16 so just because our opinions coincide you're assuming we're mafia together? and if we all were mafia, and so was goose, why would we be bandwagoning against him? i would think that that would be a stupid move for mafia to gang up on one of their own. and you ask why him and i are exchanging posts.... its not like i've ONLY been exchanging posts with just tom. i've been trying to get a little bit out of everyone so i can start putting my own pieces together. its to be expected for some people to have the same opinions. you can only derive so many different opinions about people in a game like this, so saying that our "grouping" together is suspicious isnt really a very good reason to call us mafia. i'm going to bed now. i may be on for a few hours between 2 pm and 4 pm CST, but other than that, i'll be gone nearly all day tomorrow, and i think i'll be missing the end of the day. i'll hopefully find some time to catch up on whatever posts get put up in the next 13 hours that i'll be gone. just in case i dont though, i'm gonna go ahead and lay a vote on the person that i still think is most suspicious. vote: Tyler good nite! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/30/09 at 22:34:13 and once more before i go Members viewing this topic (10): Goose [ch9829], Padzup, Time, Honko, Extol, EnigmaticCam, Flo1, aidan foyel, Meaks, KoopZ. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/30/09 at 22:36:53 lol @ all these consecutive "I'm going to bed" posts. I'm going to bed now! I'll probably be around at the end of the day! :D [4] Fababu - Kmacc, Pobre, Goose, Etch [3] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, Padzup [2] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), karterfreak, Sword [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [1] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), Koopz [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose) [0] Koopz - (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 18.5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 22:46:30 I dont see how Koopz, Tom, and Darius could all be mafia. For one thing, they are all making big contributions to the game, and are important to us. Cooper is doing a good job at analyzing everyone individually, something that townies are apt to doing. Mafia usually dont pick out individuals as much as push for more overall participation. i know this from experience. Darius may not be as active as usual, but his posts have surely had some substance to them thus far. And Tom has hinted that he has a special role, although im not sure what that is yet. Other than that, hes making good quality posts. And as for his "gut feelings", he was right about me very early in the last game, before anyone else suspected me. As much as i would have hated to say it then, now i can say that Tom is pretty good at picking up the tiniest things that the mafia slips up on. If these three guys are mafia then i'd have to say its likely that i'm mafia too, cause i fundamentally agree with most of what they've said, and vice versa in some respects. but since im not mafia, its very unlikely that all three, if any, of them are mafia. Id be very surprised if they were. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/30/09 at 22:48:16 and with that, IM GOING TO BED ;D (i'll be around sometime tomorrow, and likely for the end of the day) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 00:30:26 Koopz, please bare in mind this is a family computer so I'm not always on it and don't always have instant access, hence my posts usually coming in chunks. 15 or w/e it is isn't bad I wouldn't have thought. I thought I showed I was willing to get involved as I have nothing to hide. I was most quiet as a mafia player (last game) because it's a harder position to be in as if you slip up it will go drastically wrong. Feel free to vote for me, I'll just assume you are mafia because I haven't done anything (in my eyes) to warrant suspicion and there are way more ambiguous players. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 00:34:59 http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi Yeah exactly, I'm 8th on the list, what's so bad about that? Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 00:54:29 I swear on my families lives that I am poketown. There. Glad someone realises the importance of such a line. I'm glad some people are actually reading my posts. In this game it is not in the poketowns advantage to know my role. "The truth will out" as they say. I've switched off somewhat for now till the day has finished. There is little point in me switching my vote to Fababu. I've decided to stick with goosey for now. Needless to say I will read everything being posted and will pipe up if I really feel the need but I will achieve little. Goose or Pobre is mafia (i've put my money on it) and the other one (if not both) is waffling and putting me off my stride somewhat. I know some players here are far more experienced than me so its hard to say its gospel but for now I seriously think the safe list is (in no order) Extol, Darius, Koops. Sword is edging towards it. Howes needs to post more.. yes Howes, even more. Better to go out trying than to not try at all imho. Tyler and the rest of you are 50/50. Might be an idea if people started hinting at power roles if they have them. Or if they get information, try to post it in such a way it can be picked up! Thats something I have done and will try to do. last question, padzup, are you mafia? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 01:43:16 For those who have said I've not posted as much as usual, I think you'll find I actually contributed less on Day 1 last time. That was my first ever game of mafia and I was still feeling my way around; I also didn't want to draw too much attention to myself in case one of the town power roles visited me at night and got blasted. I agree that I'm posting less than I did after Day 1 last game but that's because we have less information to go on right now and I've also not been able to be online that much during the busier hours when the Americans get on. Pobre's insistence that Cooper, Tom and I are mafia appears to be founded on a number of agreements/staged disagreements he claims to have found between our posts. I've already challenged Tom on more than one occasion, as I did last game for having his 'hunches'. It wasn't staged in that game and it's not this game. He also seems to think that I haven't tried to convince people I'm town enough. I pretty much did this last game by posting logical analysis and hunting mafia, which is what I'm doing again. I'm not going to say 'I'm town' every post to try and convince people I'm town. Pobre also criticised Cooper for saying he was town all the time, so I'm not quite sure what he wants from me. His post count is reaching astronomical proportions and I think he's just a townie, just a paranoid one. I'm not sure I agree with this whole bet thing with Goose and Tom. Logically, Goose's reasoning about the bet is correct: Tom would not take that bet if he was mafia and he knew Goose was not. However, this brings in a whole load of other questions: would Tom spend 20$ to convince us that he's not mafia? Would Goose spend 30$ to do the same? They could even both be mafia and using it to distance themselves from each other, knowing that they're not actually making a bet. I don't think that's the case, but the problems are clear. The introduction of money adds a dimension to the game that I don't think has any place in it. If they want to have a bet on the side between themselves, fine, but extending it to the level of using it to prove whether people are mafia is too far and could open up a whole can of worms on the issue. Goose's meltdown into self-loathing and apologising for 'not being very good at this' is strange. Previously he insulted Extol's intellect, saying he was unable to understand the Monty Hall problem, now suddenly he's saying he's not very good at the game and has no idea who's mafia. I don't know who's mafia yet and I don't expect other players to, yet Goose is acting like that's what we all do when in reality it's only a few players like Tom who are that set in their convictions. Fababu has failed to convince me, he seems to be playing his cards very close to his chest and barely giving anything, which is not helpful for town. If we all said we wanted more time to collect evidence without posting our suspicions then there's no chance we'd ever spot the mafia. In his last post he said he found Pobre and Cam more innocent because they weren't using odds to back their suspicions up, even though Pobre has actually made a comment about Tom's likelihood of being mafia because he hasn't before (although Pobre claimed that was deliberate). If he's a town player, he's of no use to us right now; if he's a mafia player, he's staying very quiet and hoping we'll give him more time. The only thing that makes me hesitant about voting for him is that Goose has his vote there too and I'm not entirely sure whether that meltdown was staged or a genuine post. I'm leaning towards the latter, so: Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 02:53:44 Darius, I think you're taking a bit of an easy way out. I understand your logic though. I like the bet (probably because i'm a gambling man) but it also adds a bit of an interesting dimension. Has anyone ever seen it happen before? Again, realistically it means very little as both of us should/probably can afford to lose that amount of money and as you put, if we're both mafia (which i am certainly not) then we could split it or cancel the bet/staged. On the basis that i'm betting, purely cause i'm prepared to put my money where my mouth is, I wouldn't concern yourself with what i'm doing. chop chop padzup, i want an answer pronto. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 03:03:51 In fairness Tom, I don't like all the "I swear that..." and betting business. Still, I suppose it's not against the rules. I don't think Darius has taken any "easy way out". He's simply analysing how he feels the game has gone so far, and has at least explained himself. Padzup is interesting, I wouldn't bet against him figuring things out early, and he's dangerous if he's mafia. All that being said, I swear on my families life I am town. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 03:09:23 It's not just this bet specifically as the implications it has for the game in general. I guess there's nothing to stop people doing it but I consider it to be a poor form of evidence, just as the whole swearing on your family's life thing is. The fact that you taking the bet led to Goose drawing some logic out about you not being mafia is where I see the problem: if he's using that logic for you, what's to stop one of the mafia doing the same thing in this game, or another game, to try and appear pro-town? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 03:33:32 Well, it's a game and i don't care about the swearing blabla anyway as i would do it too if i was mafia. With that said i agree with koopz that sportsguy has been vague in his posts and should try harder to help us out or go away. Vote sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 03:36:17 And i'll be away for another 5 hours now -_- I'll be here at the last few hours of the day though. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 03:47:27 I know koopz doesn't agree with me, but i still don't think anyone has done anything to out themselves as being "obvious" or "definitely" mafia. I think night actions and who people voted for can tell us more. As of now i'm a little suspicious of everyone bandwagoning on Fababu. I think their reasoning was to get him to talk more, but with only 4 posts it isn't working. I assume there is 4-5 mafia so i would state my guesses. Mafia Howes MVT IVO Tim Special Roles Darius Tom Pobre |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 03:47:34 696360637D631A0 wrote:
It's quality not quantity that the town needs. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 04:20:32 Well he was complaining about my apparent lack of posting. I assume there is 4-5 mafia so i would state my guesses. Mafia Howes MVT IVO Tim Lmao Sportsguy. At least they are "guesses". Please tell me why you suspect me? Out for an hour. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 04:34:29 Tim, I put you last because i needed another person. I don't know if you are mafia or not. I'm fairly confident Howes is mafia. MVT way less sure compared to Howes. He tends to dig himself a hole early in games. There is something about Ivo, other than him voting for me, that makes me uneasy. It's his quiet confidence that leads me to believe he has a role in this game and i think it is mafia. Vote Howes He's tops on my list for mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 04:46:47 3E2225272B392D327B4A0 wrote:
I wasn't even awake ::) No I am not mafia. If you want to think I'm mafia, try to find a logical reason for it instead of trying to get me to swear on it. Any reason for asking me or are you just going for randoms now? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 05:09:07 Just pushing buttons :) Also - i think mvt is town, there was a post somewhere back there through all that lot which I really believed he was town. I'm not asking anyone to swear on lives or anything, if people do that then thats their business. Also Darius, the money/betting thing means nothing in the grand scheme of things. It could quite easily be a fix/hoax. Just happens to not be as i'm sure him or pobre is mafia. wts, i've been known to be wrong before. ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 05:35:33 Ok fair enough Sportsguy. I'll just throw you onto my list of suspects :p Not sure about Howes, I just think saying he didn't look at his role was a stupid move. He's a clever player so it could have just been a "for the lolz" move or maybe it's just another innocence attempt. Other than that the only one who has really stuck out is Fababu so I'm keeping my vote with him. I don't think MVT is mafia but Pobre or Goose could quite easily be. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 05:47:00 Tyler, I didn't vote for Fababu just to get him to talk more. I voted for him after he'd had a couple of opportunities to talk and I thought the answer he gave to my question was pretty poor. I would like him to contribute more because thus far he's done nothing to help town and even the other lowest posters (Etch and Ivo) have contributed something to the game. Only Lenny has done less and he hasn't even been here. Tom, can you find the post where you thought MVT was town? I'd like to see it, and hear why you think it makes him a townie. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 05:54:17 for the record, i've never actually said "i'm a townie, dont vote for me" cuz i feel that since everyone's going to be saying it, it would be pointless for me to add anything in that direction. i've been trying to word my posts in such a way that would make me obviously aligned with town without me ever having to actually say the exact words "i'm a townie". off to work, i'll be back in about 5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 06:06:25 will try, could be anywhere on the first 18 pages though, ffs. :( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 06:11:28 Can't you use the 'view most recent posts' feature? That should pick up most of MVT's (although he has actually posted more than 50 times, so it won't get them all). |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 06:24:49 62535A5A62575A53360 wrote:
For god sake I cant even take a shit lol. Why am I not mafia, hmmmm Well for starters I will be the first to admit that I am a reject role aka useless needledick. It kind of sucks but oh well. I hopefully will be able to help the town out though while I live. If you would like me to help the town than keep me alive. If you want to start off the game by killing a innocent townie than go ahead and vote for me. I have no power unlike last game, so I am going to have to make all decisions and judgments based on other people's posting. Although my assumptions are not all going to be perfect, I will do my best as a townie to serve the cause. I am not going to sit around inactive and watch from the sidelines. I will post all of my thoughts regularly and often. My vote is based on solid reasoning not anger. Letting feuds outside the game interfere is retarded. I would rather vote for Syzygy if my vote had any basis of anger lol! Sword even said he will have to drop out of the game. That isn't the kind of player the town needs, and hey maybe if we are lucky he is a mafia!!! That opinion has no base in anger or anything. I would say the same thing about you if you were not posting.[/quote] Here we go, no matter what the rest of the post says, I believe every word he said in that highlighted paragraph. It does follow on from him saying his not pokemafia. Unless he wrote half and then had a 3-4 hour break and came back to finish his post off then I think he's telling the truth. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 07:09:54 6 votes on me, ok, no problem; I swear that I'm a townie, you can believe it or not, but it's the true. I will try to be more active and less reserved with my posts if that's what you want. If you keep considering me useless after that, please tell me it and I will find a people to fill my gap. The main suspicious for me at the moment is Goose. Don't think that I'm doing it because he's voting to me, I could have done weird things during the game, but I'm enough intelligent to don't become daze by a vote. He was focusing many part of his posts in Howes, until Pobre and Kmacc comes voting to me, when he changes his pattern. Also I think he's using the bet with Tom as a smoke-screen. So: Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 07:25:26 I don't get what he means by 'I have no power unlike last game, so I am going to have to make all decisions and judgments based on other people's posting'. MVT was lightkeeper last game, which isn't a role that gives him information anyway. Are you trying to say you don't have to worry as much about getting lynched, MVT? I agree with what he says in the highlighted part though and I do believe he wants Sword out of the game because he's not contributing much. Having reread his posts he does seem to be quite keen to get Sword out of the game but I don't think it's for unjustified reasons. MVT's definitely more town for me this game than he was last game. Fababu: Pobre and Goose put their votes on you at very similar times and both with one-line justifications. Why is Pobre less suspicious than Goose for agreeing with Kmacc so easily? Was Goose the player you mentioned you were suspicious of in your previous post? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 07:29:49 Well Darius, look at it from Fababu's point of view. He is mafia and needs someone to accuse as being suspicious. I am the easy target with the next most votes, therefore he chooses me. A simple mafia play, I would know, because I'm a great player when I'm in a mafia role which, apologetically, is a role I am not in this game (see pages 16 and 17.) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 07:41:39 Yeah, Darius; he's one of the persons who I doubt at that moment. Pobre is less suspicious for me because his posts before the vote make more sense in me that Goose posts. Goose, do you really think that I'm idiot? I don't care if you are the next person with more votes, I voted to you because I consider you that I'm suspicious. In the case that I'm mafia it will be a stupid idea to vote the "easiest target" as you say, it will only catch more the attention of people over me; but do you know one thing? I'm not mafia this time, I'm a townie. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 07:50:53 Interesting. I see Fab's move as what I would do. He's taking the, i'm not mafia, but goose could be so i'm going to vote for goose as he's also got a vote count. lol, could be neither of you, could be both of you. I'm going to pick off goose then pobre unless someone else steps up with an obvious admission of guilt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 08:43:12 I see why Fababu is suspicious of Goose but I also think voting for Goose is not as stupid a play as Fababu suggests if he was mafia. With less than 12 hours remaining today, Goose is the second highest in votes and if Fababu wanted to save himself then his best bet is getting Goose lynched. Goose, why do you think you are a great mafia player? I thought you got lynched on Day 2 in the last game you played. Fababu, if you couldn't vote for Goose, who else would you vote for, and why? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 08:47:41 Also, Tom, Fababu's play is what you would do when? If you were mafia, if you were town, or both? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 08:50:20 Its what I would do in his position if I was town. If he was mafia then he and goose wouldn't be voting for eachother as the top two. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 08:59:06 I agree with Darius, Fababu voting for Goose can be one of two things- Fab could be town and voting for Goose cause he finds Goose suspicious, or he could be trying to save himself by putting the votes on Goose. Well, either way he's trying to save himself, but the question is, is he a townie or mafia trying to save himself? Personally, I'm not sure what he is right now. I'm keeping my vote on Goose until Fab says something more to show that he's mafia, or says something more convincing to show he's not mafia. And i also dont get why Goose thinks hes such a great player. If that was the case, why would he have votes on him already? I would like to hear more from EnigmaticCam. Along with a few others that i've pointed a finger at, his posts have come off to me as a bit vague, or something. I can't put my finger on it, but theres something a little suspicious about him. I'd like to hear more, Cam. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 09:00:40 Also, I'm pretty sure that only one of Fababu and Goose are mafia, because I dont think they would jeopardize each other by voting for each other when they are the two leading vote getters if they were both mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 09:05:51 I don't think that Fababu and Goose are both mafia either. I don't think they'd vote for each other if they were when they both already had a few votes. Of the two, I'm still leaning towards Fababu, at least until I hear more from him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 09:08:50 I find changing or creating a new avatar slightly suspicious ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 09:09:06 I think that if I couldn't vote for Goose; I'll choose between Padzup and Syzygy. I don't trust too much in any of them; but my suspects about them are very smaller than Goose. Of course that I'm trying to save my ass, I don't like to lose. But you can be sure that my vote on Goose isn't only because I want to save my ass; I'm voting him because I think he's mafia. I can tell you that if in the case that he has 0 votes, I will keep voting him always I thought he's mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 09:09:24 About bets, swearing on your family's life, and other forms of evidence that extend outside the game I don't really like it, and I'd prefer if you don't do it. I won't enforce a ban on it in general, because there's nothing really wrong with swearing on your life about your own innocence (whether you're innocent or not), but if I see you trying to force others to accept bets or swear on their family, I will modkill you. Maybe you'll get a warning, maybe not. So far I think everyone's OK, letting people take their own initiative for these things. Just don't make it the focus of the game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 09:14:07 Back from School and have read all the posts since my last. I am glad to see Ivo has posted in this time span, and that he has stated that he will help us out more now. Unvote The tension seems to be moving torwards Goose (frequent poster, but comes across as suspicious by his attitude and style of posting) and Fababu (who rarely posts, is very hesitant to keep his opinions to himself, and has troubles being convincing at the best of times). I can understand these suspicioions, but to be honest, I haven't a clue which is mafia. It certainly isn't both, surely. It's either one or none. I'm gonna be here for the remainder of the day, so I'll see what I feel later. People with low post counts who should speak up more: Sportsguy001 with 13 Padzup with 13 karterfreak with 12 [ch9734]Sword[ch9734] with 10 Howes with 9 Fababu with 6 Ivootjes with 5 Etch with 4 I can understand though, as Day 1 is hard to gather much evidence, as it's mostly full of townies squabbling with each other. Everyone on this list needs to post more in future days, however. There is no excuse then. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 09:16:10 thats a load of waffleburger. whats wrong with it? a bets a bet. sure makes this game more interesting :) whoever sorts out the next game please make me mafia! lol, town is comparitively boring?! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 09:19:23 I think town is more fun actually, when youre town you get to pull apart what everyone says and try to find legit faults in it. when youre mafia you just plant lies about everyone, and you know whos god and whos bad, i think knowing that takes away some of the fun from the guessing game :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 09:20:29 [6] Fababu - Kmacc, Pobre, Goose, Etch, Syzygy, Darius [4] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, Padzup, Fababu [2] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), Koopz, Ivootjes [1] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), karterfreak, (Sword) [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [1] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), Sportsguy [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Koopz - (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 8 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 09:23:32 koops and darius, switch back to goose, if he's not mafia then I think we can strongly assume pobre is. keep the aliance strong and we will prevail. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 09:24:32 504C4B494557435C15240 wrote:
No, it doesn't make the game more interesting. It makes it boring, because if someone forces a mafia to bet $50 they're town, you just ruined their ability to play the game. You change the game from "convince people with your words" to "are you willing to give up $50 / back out of a bet?" There's no fun in that. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 09:30:44 I would swear i had voted for sportsguy, lacey's mafia page agrees with this. Anyway, how do people feel about voting no lynch in this part of the game? I still don't really know who to aim for and i don't think that it's likely going to change in the next few hours. We're better off killing nobody than lynching a townie. I don't say that we should do this, i only like to hear some opinions on this. Time for a quick reread on some peoples posts. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 09:34:29 You're right, I just missed it because it was at the end of a line. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 09:35:37 3F3536352B354C0 wrote:
You got it in one, Syzygy. It started out as for the lolz, as during the last game, I didn't matter, and I figured that I wouldn't matter again this game. I tried to rationalize it as strategy, and it turned into a giant fiasco. I'm sorry for not speaking as much this game so far, but I have had schoolwork (I'm posting from school right now) and haven't had too much time to post. I don't really know who to vote for right now, so I won't vote. I probably won't be back for a while, but I'll be here for the last two hours of the day. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 09:46:06 Tom, I still think Fababu is more likely mafia than Goose. I don't like the way Goose just wanted to bandwagon Fababu but at the same time that meltdown into declaring that he didn't know what was going on gives off a townie vibe to me. Maybe Goose is just staging the whole thing but I didn't get that impression when I read it, he seemed too frustrated for that. Ivo, I still don't like the no lynch idea. There are clearly some players in this game who aren't helping town at all. Whether they're town or mafia, I'm with Etch on this one: they're of no use to us. I just don't think no lynch is as useful a tool for working out who's mafia either: any mafia who are under suspicion right now get an easy way out of trying to save themselves by going for the neutral option of no lynch. Goose and Fababu, what do you think of a no lynch? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 09:50:21 2702110A1610630 wrote:
I don't think I am a good mafia player. Everyone else does. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 09:54:33 2F23233C3F38293E4C0 wrote:
It's more than just grouping together; re-read my post again if you didn't get it all because I'm not repeating myself. And it's very reasonable to assume the mafia will use a scape-goat if their numbers are 5-6 or if the role permits it in order to gain the trust of the town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 09:55:57 202C3925202C2A383E7D7E7A4D0 wrote:
You got it in one, Syzygy. It started out as for the lolz, as during the last game, I didn't matter, and I figured that I wouldn't matter again this game. I tried to rationalize it as strategy, and it turned into a giant fiasco. I'm sorry for not speaking as much this game so far, but I have had schoolwork (I'm posting from school right now) and haven't had too much time to post. I don't really know who to vote for right now, so I won't vote. I probably won't be back for a while, but I'll be here for the last two hours of the day. [/quote] Oh come the fuck on... it started out as a strategic, wise move and now it's for the lulz? Seriously... your Monty Hall odds have just had a factor added to them. If we weren't close to voting out Fababu, I would vote you. In fact, screw it. Why should I let everyone influence my vote into something which I know is correct. Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 10:00:22 2603100B1711620 wrote:
I think it's stupid, do you want me to break it down? Possible cases: Case A Day 1: Lynch a Townie Night 1: Townie killed Result: 5 mafia and 12 townies remain Probability: 70% Case B Day 1: Lynch a Mafia Night 1: Townie Killed Result: 4 mafia and 13 townies remain Probability: 30% Case C Day 1: No Lynch Night 1: Townie Killed Result: 5 mafia and 13 townies remain I don't know how much clearer I can put it... think of 4m13t vs 5m13t... it makes a big difference. Yes, there is a risk of killing a townie, but in the 5m12t we will be better able to see who is mafia since there will be less town around. I'm really against no lynch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 10:06:51 Hmm... I don't like very much the idea of no-lynch. It seems me like making a step back. At this moment we can make fails and learn of them. So it isn't the best option that I shuffle; but I will think about it depend on the situation. I have to go right now to take my car lessons, I will come back in 2 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 10:16:19 74574855535440525E171716270 wrote:
Agreed, Ivo is very suspicious; Unvote Vote: Howes I've read your post, Tom, and Darius, and I will stop harassing you now; I'll believe you are town now; but don't think that will remain if you do anything in the slightest suspicious nature; such as vote off a townie. And sportsguys thoughts on who is mafia is very similar to mine; but as many expierenced mafia players has stated; you can't get very far on the first day so I think a no Lynch is in order. Safe People Pobre Etch Kmacc Semi-Safe People Darius KoopZ Tom Extol In the Gray area MVT Sportsguy In the Red Everyone Else |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/31/09 at 10:22:51 Sorry I haven't posted much guys, I woke up sick this morning and stayed home and slept. I'm really out of it, and probably will be going back to bed shortly after this. I was the one who started the bandwagon vote against oneshot in the first mafia game, based on what I thought was a common mafia mistake when it was nothing more than a townie who's new with the game. I don't want to make that same mistake again, and so I'm hesitant to start amassing votes against people on the first day without any real evidence. But that doesn't mean I can't make known my suspicious, and a few have come to fruition since my last big post. These are the 3 biggest things that jump out at me. I think Fab's defense is very weak. It basically comes down to "don't vote for me, vote for goose." As others have said, Goose is an easy target. And easy target or not, I'd like to see more of a reason from him why he isn't mafia. It is hard at this point to really provide evidence, so maybe a good concrete analysis of more than just one person would suffice. The votes against Fab are understandable, but I would ask that people reconsider. Too much of a risk of voting out a town person on day 1, but don't forget that Fab's suspicion was strong on day 1. I still find Goose's inconsistency very suspicious. I once thought he was definitely town, but I'm not so sure anymore. Goose, why do you keep going back to this monty hall problem? No matter how it ends, everyone has the same chances of being mafia, and no matter how many people are dead after x number of days, the chances will always be evenly divided among those who are left. Howes seems to have dug himself a whole with the "I'm not looking at my PM yet", and people have noticed. As I've said before, not looking at your PM doesn't serve anyone anything as we need people speaking with the knowledge of their roles on the back of their mind. I suppose it could be argued that analyzing people's posts without knowing whether you're mafia or not would server the town better than the mafia, and I think that's what you were trying to do. That's the only reason why I think it's not enough to amass votes against you, but it's still something I will keep in the back of my mind later down the road. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 10:25:26 3B2720222E3C28377E4F0 wrote:
anything is possible. *insert a FUCKING GROCERY LIST OF INSULTS!* I FIGURED IT OUT TOM, YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOU ARE A REBELLIOUS MEWTWO BENT ON DESTRUCTION! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 10:27:18 I keep going back to the logical math involvement because it's all I have. Like I said already, I'm not a good town player. I've never been town before and I have no fucking clue how to "read" people like you apparent geniuses can. I'm sorry that all I can come up with is probabilities and intuition, and that you guys are either too intelligent, or not intelligent enough to accept those are reason, but I can tell you from the bottom of my heart that I am town in this game. If you want to look at it this way, the first game I played I did not lie and we won. The 2nd game I played, I lied, and we lost. It seems like being honest is in my best interest. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 10:30:30 wow wow wow; look at whos voting for goose, and whos voting for Fababu, obviously the two factions! Unvote Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 10:30:31 Seriously pobre, i don't get your lists at all. Safe list: Kmacc, Etch? how can you be so sure of something like this? :-/ Especially with etch who has posted very little yet. Stating stuff like this helps out nobody, and if you've got your reasons for it just make notes for yourself so it won't confuse town anymore. Or post the reasons why you're so sure that etch is town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 03/31/09 at 10:33:17 I'm in the same boat as you. No idea what to do, being a townie is not easy. That's why I'm sticking with no lynch. We've got 20 pages right now. The only real evidence we will have is who the mafia kills tonight. It's the best we've got, and from there we can backtrack and build cases against people with REAL evidence. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 10:38:28 Cam using my "being a townie is hard" stance is pretty copycat and mafia-like. Watch out for him tbh. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 10:38:49 There's never real evidence, that's the problem with being townie. Day 1 is just harder than most days, as there's so little to base your actions on. I'm going to reread your posts now enigmaticcam. Better not made any mistakes if you're mafia cause i will track them down ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 10:42:51 Well it breaks down like this Ivo, Etch is someone I talk too on a daily basis; infact; I know him more than I know 99% of you; we've had conversations that span 8+ hours (no homo) And just by reading his post and claims I can tell he's being honest. I know who etch is and I know he's town when he says it. And I believe Kmacc is safe because of his post in respect to others. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 10:43:45 And I agree with your post on there is never any real evidence. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 10:46:27 I disagree with Cam in a way. Being a townie is easy in that you really have nothing to hide, and its more apparent that youre town if youre putting it all out there. The part thats not easy about being town is that you just dont know for sure who's what. Being mafia is a bit harder because you have to pretend youre town. Only the best can do this well, otherwise you have a lot of vagueness, indecisiveness, cover-ups, and inconsistencies in your posts. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 10:53:00 Time is unlikey to be mafia, imo. His list of who he trusts and who he doesn't changes constantly, and he is acting very paranoid, something which seems unmafia like. Goose is suspect in the way he has switched attitudes, but he sounds like he is trying to be honest, and Fababu is more suspicious than Goose right now, how his defences aren't solid, and he has trouble putting his point across. Fababu also claims the role of town, but unless he starts to change and post more useful stuff, he isn't going to be much use to us. He seems more of a threat right now. If we don't find out now, he'll slip under the radar and might be even more of a danger later. Vote : Fababu He's got alot of convincing to do, the day is in it's last phases. He said him being gone for 2 hours recently though, but let's see what he has got to say when he returns. Edit : Unlucky to Unlikely |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 11:00:03 [6] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, Syzygy, Darius, Pobre, Sword [4] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, Padzup, Fababu [2] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), Sportsguy, Goose, (Pobre) [2] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), Koopz, Ivootjes [1] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), karterfreak, (Sword) [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Koopz - (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) [0] Etch - (Kmacc) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in EXACTLY 6 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 11:11:46 Have you changed your mind about Tom, Pobre, or are you just messing around with that Mewtwo post? You also sound like Tom talking about Sean in the last game when you say you can just tell Etch isn't mafia by talking to him, yet I thought you didn't agree with Tom's style of playing the game? Cam, I think a number of people have already said why no lynch isn't a good idea. The mafia aren't just going to kill someone that makes it clear who they all are. We'll be able to read certain Day 1 posts in a different light but mafia kills don't make that 'real evidence'. The only kind of solid evidence we get in this game is from when people die and power roles, and even a cop's not always certain to turn up a confirmed townie/mafia. Ivo, you asked us what we thought of no lynch but you weren't that committal about what you thought. Do you have an opinion on whether we should no lynch or not? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 11:14:08 Well I guess I sort of over looked that. Tom has been in the community for ages now; about 10 years or something like that? so i guess he has more of a right to play on intuition than I do (i've been here since mid 03) But I'm almost certain that Etch is town; if he isn't; I'd feel like a complete dumbass. [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 11:30:33 I'm with goose about the no-lynch because there is always a chance we could kill a mafia. Where there is no chance we could kill a mafia with the no-lynch strategy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 11:31:25 pfff, nothing new so far. Voting fab off isn't the end of the world as he's not posted that much but at the end of the day, i still think goose and pobre have been so much more sus/random. I dont like loose canons as I can't read between the lines as much. not sure how long we have, but if I get killed in the next night remember my suspicions. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 11:39:11 Between Goose and Pobre, i think Goose is mafia for reasons i've already stated, and i think Pobre is likely town, because as Sword said, it seems like he's just paraniod, and i can't blame him, as this is his first mafia game. As far as i can tell, he is being honest in his attempts to find mafia and otherwise in his posts, so i feel he's probably a townie. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 11:41:01 And @ Tom, we have a little over 5 hours left as of now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 11:41:28 Ok, it seems that nothing I'll say will change your mind; so it's time to shoot my last bullet... I'm a townie with a power role. I hope that this will open your mind. I know that this night I will probably become roleblocked by the mafia and then killed by them; but everything is possible and I don't want to see you lynching a power role at day 1. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 11:43:43 I am also a power role. Mafia - please try to kill me and not fab. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 11:44:14 Fababu is obviously mafia at this point. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 11:47:11 Interesting. Could this be a mafia ploy to save themselves? I kind of doubt it. I'm not sure, but maybe you should reveal your pokemon to see if you claim a pokemon that someone else is. What do others think? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 11:53:35 yes he should |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 11:57:31 2A05060612051927600 wrote:
Hah, you will like it; but I haven't lied at this game and I won't lie. Remember this, If I become dead, you'll have a good objetive in Pobre. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 12:06:26 i think fababu's boned now regardless.... if we dont lynch him today, its highly possible that mafia will kill him tonite. if mafia doesnt kill him during the nite, i have a feeling that we'll jump to the conclusion that he wasnt nightkilled cuz he's mafia, and then we'd lynch him tomorrow. thats assuming of course that he's telling the truth about being a townie AND having a power role. i'm not going to vote for fababu. i have trouble understanding his point like anyone else does, but i think thats more cuz his english isnt very good, and i dont wanna fault him for that. i'm still suspicious of tyler.... its just those couple of posts of his where he's really vague about not voting for him. i've watched him in the previous games, and he's much better at explaining himself than what he has so far in this game, and thats what leads me to believe that he's a mafia player. other people i'm more suspicious of now are etch and tim. their silence really baffles me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 12:08:03 Members viewing this topic (9): Ivootjes, Sportsguy001, KoopZ, karterfreak, Fababu, Honko, Padzup, Extol, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734] matt, what do you think about all this? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 12:11:43 i'm watching too, i think you everyone should switch to goose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 12:17:06 In response to KoopZ, I'm also feeling the same way about Etch and Tim. I'm gonna throw something new to the table. I mean, look at the most recent Vote Count : 4C67607C610E0 wrote:
Tim and Etch are one after the other, they have both jumped on the Fababu bandwagon but they haven't posted that much since the game started. Along with Padzup, they are cruising through the game. People are questioning them every here and there, but the Fababu and Goose drama is a perfect ploy for the mafia. I'm unsure if Tim or Etch are mafia - because it's an early stage. But this needs to be looked into tomorrow. Back to Fababu drama, perhaps he should reveal exactly which power role he has? Or what pokemon he is? If someone else counters this, we know he is mafia, or the person countering is. But then again, even if he does, are we going to believe him? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 12:21:37 6C717D66653E313E090 wrote:
Look at it this way: if Fab ends up getting lynched (pretty likely) we will all still suspect Goose but move on to bigger threats on Day 2. We'd basically ignore Goose from then on unless he did something suspect again. It would basically ensure his safety since nobody seems to actually follow up on what they say they'll do the next Day. This happened last game with MVT and I've noticed it a lot elsewhere as well. By getting votes on himself it means that we won't say 'oh why has nobody voted goose yet why isn't he suspicious' in a week. Doesn't mean he's mafia as I'm sure anyone would want to stay in. Or I could be completely off and Goose has just said some pretty stupid stuff. 64010001300 wrote:
Wouldn't that be the intent then? If they were both mafia it would have been a valid strat given that town would have seen that it was 'too stupid to work' so they would assume that at least one wasn't. 64010001300 wrote:
As for myself I didn't post much mainly to stay out of the shitstorm of Pobre/MVT/Goose posts. I also didn't post a ton last game since I didn't want to just make a bunch of one-liners. I'm a bit jaded from being nightkilled so early so I'm not saying as much as I normally would. If you were really a power role Fab you shouldn't have said anything. Now you will just be roleblocked/killed tonight if you aren't lynched and unless you're trying to put yourself out as a target to mafia it doesn't make much sense to do it. It doesn't seem worth it just to say 'well at least we didn't lynch a power role day 1!' especially given that this move has only aroused more suspicion. If you and Goose are both mafia you may be trying to draw attention off of him since you are done for anyway. And saying that Pobre would be a target if you were a power role is also pointless since we would know that from looking back at the thread after you died. You are not really contributing and failed to do so when you had several opportunities. Even on your last legs you are not trying to help town. You never really made any effort in that regard and have been focused on saving your skin. I'm not going to vote for you because your days are numbered anyway so I will just say that you had this coming for not contributing. Your last hope would be admitting what Pokemon you are I'd say. Sword I am not cruising anymore. Stop lumping me together with Etch and Tim. Tom what are you doing? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 12:27:48 what the hell, ivo was replying, and now he's not even viewing the topic... and fababu must be writing something huge, he's been replying for the past 5 minutes now. ivo, why the change of mind? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 12:28:11 Sword, there are two options: 1) I tell you which is my pokemon. 1.1 No one conters me, you'll doubt of me. We're at the same point that now, until you lynch me or mafia kills me. 1.2 Someone conters me. Me or the fake one gets killed, and the faction of the other becomes obvious. 2) I don't say my pokemon or my role. You keep doubting of me and we return to this point as 1.1. I think that option 1 is better at this point, so do you really want to know who I am? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 12:30:39 and i forgot to add earlier that i'm not voting for fababu cuz i believe him when he says he's town. not sure about the power role part, but i do not believe he's mafia. tom, why are you trying so hard to get everyone to switch to goose? thats reminiscent of scott's paranoia craze and starting bandwagons left and right on different people... what makes you so sure that we should vote for goose? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 12:31:47 I don't think goose is mafia, he really has been trying to help out town, and part of his posts were informative, it's just that you've got to sort it out of the enormous amount of bullshit that he usually posts. And knowing goose, normally about 99% of his posts are about himself, and this game he's been saying some stuff about other people too which is a nice change in behaviour. I'll keep my vote on sportsguy for now. For reasons explained by cooper. I also like to see etch go, he hasn't been helpful in the posts he's made, not commenting much on other players. Besides he doesn't seem to care much about this game. If other people are feeling the same too i would be willing to change my vote to etch and end the day by lynching him. What do you guys think? Fababu claiming a power doesn't really say a lot, except that we might want to let him live another day? If he's something like the cop he can make a scan tonight, if he's a roleblocker he can try to block the mafia tonight. This gives us valuable information for sure, and it would be a mafia mistake to let him live as this will only provide free 100% information after he dies. On the other hand was he going to die anyway (probably) so it's not really in the mafia's favor to claim a role here as claimed roles are bound to die soon anyway. If he's mafia it would be a lot better to try to get other people to vote for a townie. He could also be lying about his role but he's going to die soon anyway so we'll find out for sure. And for some reason i find padzup to be suspicous, but i can't really explain why. Maybe because he's only been picking on goose? In short: let's get rid of etch or tyler. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 12:35:09 I want to vote for goose and pobre, partly cause I want to win my bet and prove that one of them is mafia. For what its worth i'm leaning more towards pobre now than goose out of the two but they're both sus. I think Fab did the right thing. He's about to get voted off and he's saved himself. you talk about role blocking and killing on the mafia side but we've got powers too! I want team poketown to win. Mafia, kill me first please let suspicious fab live another day. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 12:35:34 @Cooper: i was replying for the whole time, but i think that after 5 minutes the forum thinks im not logged in anymore? Quote:
Darius, i was kinda confused at that point and had the nasty feeling we were on our way of lynching a townie, which is worse than lynching none. The past 2 pages were interesting though. Normally i don't really like no lynch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 12:44:52 with a little over 4 hours to go.... Members viewing this topic (10): Sportsguy001 (replying), KoopZ, Honko, Fababu, Padzup (replying), In Hiding, Ivootjes, Extol, EnigmaticCam, Syzygy i'm hoping tim has something to say about his silence. still havent heard anything from matt either. i'm not as suspicious of padzup as i once was though. tom you still didnt tell me WHY you want goose gone. i already know that you wanna win your bet (which is not a very good reason, btw). edit - bolded the viewers of the topic. i'm gonna try to remember to do that from now on so it stands out a little more. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 12:47:07 So koopz and Ivo are voting for me because my posts are vague. Honestly, I think i've been more useful in this game than any of the other games i've been in. Maybe my posts are too vague compared to other posters. I'll try my best for my future posts to be clearer and more complete thoughts. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 12:48:49 Tom you'll get to know the result of your bet anyway. Don't have to be in a hurry. Come on people, over half of the players is online, start changing your freaking votes! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 12:50:41 ivo and matt are making posts, and tim still says nothing, though he may just be reading at this point. tyler, the reason why i think your posts are vague is cuz in past games (IMO opinion at least) you made much more informative posts than the ones you've made so far. but once again, this could just be mine and ivo's opinions. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 12:50:56 Sportsguy, you're just hella hard to read :-/ Ah whatever, i'll trust you on this one, and etch has done less than you did Unvote Vote Etch |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 12:54:08 why vote etch at this time? surely you're better off voting for fab or goose? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 12:55:27 5D51514E4D4A5B4C3E0 wrote:
I was under the impression in previous games that i was a "worthless" town player. EDIT: Haven't seen Kmacc in a while. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 12:55:40 way to avoid my question tom. whats with the bandwagon against goose? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 12:57:01 Wow, I'm sick for a majority of a day and I get accused of not posting much (Coops). I'll try to stick around and post more Cooper, but if I throw up on my keyboard, I'm blaming you :-* First off: Ivootjes did reply, and he does seem to promise he'll contribute more, so he's off the hook for now. Unvote Now that I read all the posts so far, time for a little analasis. WARNING, LONG POST AHEAD! (started at 3:41pm) 1) Darius - (reply #427) His first paragraph here does make logical sense. I checked and he has posted more in this first day than the previous one, which to me says he is trying to contribute. Later on in the reply he brings on a very good point about goose (in Paragraph 4) which does make me suspicious of Goose. - I think darius is town so far, but he should try and post a little more regardless. 2) EnigmaticCam - Only made 4 posts since I've last checked the topic. The first of which he votes no lynch because he's satisfied with everyone posting. He did tell me earlier in the game that no lynch should be done later in the day, so this doesn't strike me as suspicious. He brings up the two highest voted people so far, Fababu and Goose, basically saying that Fababu has a weak defense (which he kinda does) and Goose is inconsistant (which he is. He went from "knowing what he was doing" to "I'm a failure at mafia/life/whatever"). He points out being town isn't easy, which everyone knows. Goose tried to make him suspicious for copying his stance on it, but most people here already agree that being town isn't easy. Not very suspicious of cam yet, although this made me more suspicious of goose. - Currently leaning towards town for Cam. 3) Etch - He hasn't posted since I've last checked the topic. Definantly need to see more from him, or at least more detailed posts. - 50/50 chance of him being town or mafia for me. 4) Extol - Not much I can post on him to be honest, he posts an average amount and backs up most peoples posts while throwing in his own opinions. Seems town to me. 5) Fababu - He honestly needs a better defense than "Vote Goose not me." - Highly suspicious at the moment of him. 6) Goose - Goose, I'm going to be honest, you seriously need to stop with the Monty Hall Problem, Gambler's Fallacy makes more sense in this situation, although the Law of Averages does apply. Other than that, your statistical outlook on this game is a bit odd. Statistics are important in one sense, but it IS possible to catch someone in a lie if you pay attention to their posts. Last game I caught syzygy in a lie by setting him up with something quite simple (or at least simple to me anyways). After I caught him in that lie I took a chance hoping that he didn't just make a stupid move, and risked my role as cop to get him killed. In the end it worked, even though 'statistically' it was a stupid move for me to take that risk, the outcome of that game changed from random to 100% victory for town because of that decision. - 80/20 Mafia unless he gets his act in gear. 7) Howes - Not checking your PM'd role was kinda a stupid decision no matter how you look at it. ADMITTING you didn't look at it was a stupider one. Right now I'm going to say your town only on the thought that a Mafia wouldn't slip up that badly. You better prove me wrong Howes. 8) In Hiding - It's been pointed out already that Tom is probably town because of the bet he made with Goose. It's also been pointed out however that it could be a ploy between Goose and Tom to make us all think they're both town, when in turn they're mafia. I'm a little suspicious of Tom, and will probably be regardless of whether Goose is mafia or not. 9) Ivootjes - He still needs to post more, but he was useful last game, and this game will be no different if he posts more. Get to work on providing some more input. Until then, I'm still leaning towards mafia. 10) karterfreak - Its been pointed out that I need to post more, so I'll be doing that starting with this post. - Town 11) Kmacc - 44424E4C4C2F0 wrote:
12) Koopz - I think I know coops well enough to tell if he's lying or not. Basing this purely on my AIM conversations with him. He's also been providing original thoughts on who he thinks is mafia or not, with fair reasons as to why. I'm almost 100% positive coops is town, if not, him and me need to have a little talk :-* 13) Lenny - Gone until wednesday, can't provide fair analasis for him. 14) MVT - Only two posts since I last checked the topic? I would have expected more considering how you were ragging on sword for not talking as much as he should. He tried putting alot of pressure on 15) Padzup 16) Pobre - Honestly, 100+ posts in only day one?! Thats pretty nuts man... Mind you, alot of it is just pointless posts. His opinion changes so much its kind of hard to make anything of it. If he's mafia he hasn't shown any signs of it in all of his posts, unless you consider his confusing playstyle, in which he would be suspicious. Probably town. I've only got 95 characters left for sportsguy, sword, and syzygy. So I'll make it short. Sportsguy - town, Sword - town, syzygy - post moar & 50/50. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 13:00:24 God shit tom, stop being an idiot, im not voting for people who i think are not mafia. I've think i've explained my reasons well why i don't want to vote for goose, and also why it's in towns favor to keep fababu around for one or two more days. We also don't have to act like the day is over yet, 13/19 players are online now so we can easily switch around our votes in the last few hours of the day. This really makes me think that you could be a possible mafia. That's probably why you wanted to bet in the first place, as you could be mafia with pobre. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 13:01:01 And crap, figures when I start writing it Fababu and Tom make power role claims. Unsure what to say about them now. @ Coops: I think Tom is voting Goose because of the bet he made with him ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 13:02:02 koops, I was the first to accuse him no? (if not must've been somewhere there) Its hardly a bandwagon. I've said many times before, his irratic behaviour and lack of convincing posts make him a target. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 13:02:14 After reading what Fababu has responded with I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and remove my vote. He seems to be more keen to play now the pressure was put on, so I think it did the trick. About revealing your power role ... I'm not so sure now. You've claimed you have a role now, so your days are numbered. But I believe you for now, so I'm gonna trust you on this one. Etch is on 4 posts total at the moment, which is much lower than everyone elses. If Fababu isn't mafia, I have a feeling that either Etch or Syzygy is. I'm going to have to agree with Ivootjes on this one. Vote off the people who aren't posting much. Heck, even Etch said it himself, so he hasn't much excuse. Unvote But damn, whats the odds of him being lynched now? Fababu and Goose are far ahead in lead, so unless we all drastically change our vote, I don't see Etch going anytime soon. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:02:58 no, more like he's a paranoid target. You say I'm a joker; but your reasoning is shit you fucking two faced clown. Go rape some little girls tom. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:04:25 Back from school...sorry Matt, I post all that I possibly can while I am home...unfortunately school takes up 8 hours of my day ;). I have already cleared Sword off as a townie now after he finally gave a decent response to me yesterday. However there is one person who is really coming across as mafia now. Howes your posts have been shit from the start. We really don't fucking care whether you look at your pm or not. We care that you have contributed nothing to the game, and I am tired of people who do that. You want to play mind games with people. Haha man...Let's cut the shit shall we? Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by In Hiding on 03/31/09 at 13:05:03 @ pobre - as someone posted before i could reply directly after. errr, wut? pobre, are you mafia? admit it. you know you want to. also, is goose mafia? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:06:49 Man Tom; you really are just an overrated piece of trash. You're a tool bro; you have no god intuition; your complete shit at this. If you're mafia; I wouldn't be surprised; if you're town; well, I'd just be damned disappointed in how useless you have been. If you're nether; now that would be surprising. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:07:32 Howes one glance at the substance in your last 10 posts shows, THERE IS NONE. Your fucking mindgames are not welcomed either if you are a townie |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 13:07:34 tom, i think those are pretty stupid questions to ask. and also, i know you've stated that goose's erratic behavior makes him a target, but nearly everyone could've said that. i was wondering if you had any other reasons besides the bet and the general reasons you've already stated. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 13:10:04 Members viewing this topic (13): Honko, Fababu, Ivootjes, Syzygy, KoopZ, MVT, Sportsguy001, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], Time, In Hiding, karterfreak, Ariath, Padzup still waiting on a reply from tim. he's been viewing for long enough now to have at least skimmed the posts to see what people say. at least say something like "i'm catching up on the posts, give me a few more minutes" to let me know you're paying attention at least. then i wanna see some insight from you. unvote vote: Tim |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:11:26 Not true KoopZ, and no, I am not jumping to his defense. I have many tabs open, and I have, on many occasions, left this topic open on my page while switching to other tabs. So your "reasoning, Logic" or whatever the fuck you want to call it is flawed and your vote has no merit. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:12:22 Ok read the last 4 pages. Firstly @ Sword, where are you coming from with linking me to Etch? How can you link me to Etch? Are you saying that whoever voted after Etch would immediately be paired with him? Look at when we voted, nowhere near each other. He's posted 4 times ffs and I've posted 20 times. There was no bandwagon in the strictest sense. I didn't jump on anything because there wasn't anything to jump onto. All your posts are too "wet". Style over substance. Quantity over quatity. Maybe your style, maybe you're mafia, I don't know yet. @ Fababu, don't get how you suddenly shifted from Goose to me/Padzup. Please give reasons. @ Honko, yeah sorry I got sucked into Tom's "swearing" game, feel free to delete that post. @ Howes. I posted: Not sure about Howes, I just think saying he didn't look at his role was a stupid move. He's a clever player so it could have just been a "for the lolz" move or maybe it's just another innocence attempt. Other than that the only one who has really stuck out is Fababu so I'm keeping my vote with him. I don't think MVT is mafia but Pobre or Goose could quite easily be. Notice the "not sure". I was simply giving options, then you highlighted "for the lolz" and posted: You got it in one, Syzygy. It started out as for the lolz, as during the last game, I didn't matter, and I figured that I wouldn't matter again this game. I tried to rationalize it as strategy, and it turned into a giant fiasco. I'm sorry for not speaking as much this game so far, but I have had schoolwork (I'm posting from school right now) and haven't had too much time to post. I don't really know who to vote for right now, so I won't vote. I probably won't be back for a while, but I'll be here for the last two hours of the day. No I clearly didn't get it in one. I was giving options, not assuming/guessing. I wonder if that was you being selective with your wording to sound more convincing as opposed to just highlighting it and saying "yes this is what it was". Again it could just be your game style, but I don't like it. @ Goose: "I don't think I am a good mafia player. Everyone else does." You're an idiot ^ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 13:13:15 [5] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, Syzygy, Darius, Pobre, (Sword) [4] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, Padzup, Fababu [3] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), Sportsguy, Goose, (Pobre), MVT [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [1] Etch - (Kmacc), Ivootjes [1] Syzygy - Koopz [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Koopz - (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 4 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 13:14:14 whats not true? that he's not online looking at this topic as i type this post? how would you know, you cant see who's viewing any given topic. just see that he was replying, and it must've just not shown on the in the area where the viewers are shown. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:17:06 Does anyone else find Howes as extremely fishy as I am finding him. Every time I look over his posts again I get more frustrated by the lack of content and it makes me wonder what his true intentions are this game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:17:58 I simply stated that people can have the damn topic open while browsing for other things on the internet. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by KoopZ on 03/31/09 at 13:18:23 tim, i didnt realize that you had posted that much more than etch has. just seems like you've been unusually quiet for the past several pages. unvote i've gotta go to work now. :( good luck town! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:19:37 666A6A7576716077050 wrote:
Oh shit. There was me thinking it was ok to be doing other things while reading through the topic. But no, mafia is my life and I must give full priority. Unvote Vote: Koopz Because I'm sad and irrational too. (No in all seriousness, I think you are town ((so far)), but I don't care). |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:20:45 I would also rather vote out Goose than Fababu at this point of the game. The power role claim seemed sort of legit. He looks like he is in a similar situation that I have found myself in many times and is posting similarly to how I did. I have about 65% faith in him. If he actually is a town power role we fucked up big time. Rather go with someone like Goose who is more of a danger to the town regardless even if he was town himself. But as I have said, right now I am voting for Howes and I aint budging. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 13:20:56 Cooper, relax, i normally start out with the oldest posts and see the newest pages last. Maybe he does a reread through everything? Might take a while then before he sees your last post. On the topic of current votes, why does NOBODY unvote during this stage? Do we really still want to lynch fababu or give him some time to find stuff out as he claimed to be a powerrole. If he's mafia then we've found one and we'll lynch him in one of the next 2 days anyway. Better spend our time now finding out other stuff instead of making a possible mistake Fababu, if you're just a plain townie or some really lame powerrole (like bodyguard with 50% chance of dying) than you're truly an idiot for not trying to get us to vote for someone else a different way. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:21:08 Oh ok fair enough. Unvote Re-Vote: Fababu Edit: Like I said, my posts tend to come in chunks so I guess they are easily missed. This is a family comp and my sister uses it too, and she was on here for like 5 hours this evening doing coursework, hence why I had another post-gap. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 13:22:22 @Syzygy: I don't shifted to you. Darius asked me what are my other suspicious apart from Goose and I say you and Padzup because you are who most I doubt apart from Goose. I won't vote for you because I don't really have any sustancious proof of your guilty. The only reason for suspecting of you is that in a post you said that you doubt of me without giving any explanation; and a few posts after you vote for me without giving any explanation again (although you say them after). That's all. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 13:22:52 I'm bout to go eat, but i'll be back later before the day ends. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 13:22:59 Alright Tim, I see that my reasoning was flawed. I didn't look at the timestamps and saw you and Etch voting on Fababu, I just saw the Vote Count, and that you were one after the other, and both of you haven't been talking as much as I expected, which is why I'm slightly confused by it. I apologise for jumping into that one without much thought, but it did stand out for me. Howes is now also low on posts, but he has stated that he doesn't get much internet time, and checks here during his school time, otherwise I'd be expecting to see more from him. I have to agree that not checking his role and admitting to that was a pretty bizarre move, and it certainly didn't do him any favours. As for SportsGuy, he is leaning more town for me, but again he is hard to tell. He isn't playing like he was when he was mafia, but this could just be a ploy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:23:02 I believe I gave a reason. Edit: ^ @ Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:23:25 I agree ivoot. I held unvote all of yesterday and into today. I just think howes should not be allowed to slide by! If he can actually speak and reply with some substance than I wouldn't mind unvoting him later. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:25:09 Ok Sword, you are now back tracking. Now you see your accusations are useless and flawed you are with drawing them. Innocent mistake or was it a mafia attempt to bring suspicion away from one source to another? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:25:22 Later? The fucking day ends in 3 hours you dip shit. Edit Reason: Post was directed at MVT (Massive Vagina Tank) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 13:26:38 Ok finally we're getting to someone who could very well be mafia in my eyes. It seems like none wants to get rid of etch for now so i'll keep that for what it is. I like to hear why nobody wants to get rid of him though? Howes has been playing kinda bad though until now, he started out horrible and it didn't really get better during the game providing next to no information. Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:29:14 That makes alot of sense IVO. gonna have to be a groupie on this one. Better take out Howes now before he confuses us all into the abyss, he is the reason for a good portion of bullshit that day 1 had to go through. Unvote Vote: Howes I might go through the other mafia threads to learn a few things. :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 13:31:15 wtf are you doing tim? o_0 Voting for koopz, then switching to fababu who claimed power role. Did anyone read what i had to say on this? Anyway, what's your pokemon/role fababu? If we're letting you alive then we should at least know what to expect from you this night as youll have to tell us tomorrow if you still live by then. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:31:23 Just to clarify Time, I just got the same weird post deletion glitch that you got with Tom earlier in the game. It said you were the last post but came up with Ivo and nothing on the next page. I don't record or anthing so just take my word for it. It must just happened when I new page beings. I know it wasn't referring to your post before Ivo's because I'd already had the page open with Ivo's and the time of your new post coincided with the post at the top of this page. Lol. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:31:51 Any true townies let's get down to business for a moment. ATTENTION ALL REAL TOWNIES. Let's keep are votes isolated on a select 2-3 people!!! This will help us out big time later on. For example everyones votes are split between player a, b, and c. Player b gets lynched. Player b was a mafia. That means (for the most part) that anyone who voted for player b is likely to be town. The next day the votes are split between player a and c. Player c is lynched, he was town. Anyone who voted for player c on day 2 and player a on day 1 is now suspect. It sounds very complex, but certainly when the votes are all layed out to see, it will be a process of elimination and we will be able to tell who was just a clueless townie voting and who may very well be mafia. Bottom Line Town: Try not to vote for anyone on a whim. Stick within a small group of voters. Don't be that guy who casted 1 vote to a random player at the end of the day. I would like all town to stay away from 1 vote wonders, especially if you see at the end of the day that the person you are going for wont be lynched for sure. Early on in the day it is fine to throw around votes, but in the end don't stick with being the only vote on one person. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 13:31:53 @ Tim : It was more me trying to piece other things together but not having much to go on, because the Fababu & Goose drama has taken center stage for today. And I didn't realise you had 20 or so posts, because you post in chunks it's easily missed. I'm really confused why Etch isn't posting - his insight is most useful. Him not posting is making him highly suspicious, and I guess I mistakenly grouped you with him because I didn't see you posting much, and I see your insight as useful too. When people who could be posting useful info are staying in the dark and being quiet, I find them suspicious (Ivo at the start of the game, Etch being silent and Howes not posting much to name a few). There might be a possibility that Etch doesn't care about the game at the moment, or that he wants to avoid all the bullshit talk that is thrown about in here, but his opinions are wanted and it's going to make him look bad if he doesn't post. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 13:32:11 I've already stated my opinion about Howes in my long winded post. Currently I think Goose is more suspicious than Howes based on that reason. Vote: Goose Unless howes slips up with something other than that, my vote stays with Goose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:32:38 Ivo, I voted for Koopz because he voted for me without giving me a chance to speak, then went back to my previous vote. I haven't seen any reason to change it. I'll check for Fababu's post with the laim in now. Edit: Ive > Ivo |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:32:43 5D57545749572E0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:33:48 00656465540 wrote:
I think it's mainly his business. He hasn't posted much in any previous game. Anyway, I put some pressure on you and it's nice that you've responded. You're fine for now. *Cough* be careful though, some of your posts are dodgy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:35:18 71141514250 wrote:
Etch isn't "Remaining quiet" and all this shit; he has classes; work, I know him, he's a busy fucking person; has it ever occured to you that this could be the reason for most people being quiet? for you to accuse someone of being suspcious because of them being quiet is so fucking retarded. All of you are fucking dipshit morons I just want to exterminate all you insects. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 13:35:43 Ivo, your guess is right. My role is a lame one, and I don't know if telling that was the better idea, but it was the first one I thought and I hope at that moment that it will give me the opportunity to catch breath. Im going to sleep now, see you tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 13:37:20 [5] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), Sportsguy, Goose, (Pobre), MVT, Ivootjes, Pobre [5] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, Padzup, Fababu, karterfreak [4] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), Syzygy [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes) [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 3.5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:37:35 To clarify that very complicated post I made above. I would like to ask all townies to stick their vote on either Fababu, Goose, or Howes. Anyone who makes a random vote away from those 3 will be very suspicious to me and will look desperate to sway attention away from a solid decision being made. That said EnigmaticCam are you still sure about that no-lynch vote? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:38:01 3.5 hours as in 3 hours and 30 minutes or 3 hours and 50 minutes? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Fababu on 03/31/09 at 13:39:11 546B72726977786E1D0 wrote:
Sorry Ivo, you wrote that while I was writing my last post. My pokemon is Hitmonchan, a kind of bodyguard. I really go to sleep now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:41:10 0E6B6A6B5A0 wrote:
Sword come on man, that post is really terrible. You criticize Etch for something that you yourself have done all game. That ain't right. Your vote will tell me a lot about you so choose carefully. I really hope you are being truthful and are not a scummy mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:42:51 Unvote No idea if Fababu's claim is true. It's hard as a closed game. I'd like to see if Goose or Howes are willing to admit a role. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 13:43:51 113E3D3D293E221C5B0 wrote:
3.5 = 3 hours 30 minutes. The day ends at 6pm Pacific, on the hour. 3 hours and 17 minutes from now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 13:44:45 624D4E4E5A4D516F280 wrote:
Etch isn't "Remaining quiet" and all this shit; he has classes; work, I know him, he's a busy fucking person; has it ever occured to you that this could be the reason for most people being quiet? for you to accuse someone of being suspcious because of them being quiet is so fucking retarded. All of you are fucking dipshit morons I just want to exterminate all you insects. :-/ [/quote] I wouldn't say accusing someone of being suspicious because of them being quiet is retarded, because if you look over the previous mafia games, most of the mafia members were silent, hid under the radar and didn't post as much content as the town players. Although reading over I understand about Etch being busy. I don't know him as well as you do, I didn't know he was that busy, in honesty. I can understand why Fababu doesn't show and post all his opinions of people now. I didn't understand before but now it makes sense. Well, it's either going to be Howes, Fababu or Goose who is getting the boot today, so I'll stay around and vote for one of them soon. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:45:34 I would actually encourage Goose and Howes NOT to admit their roles. Reasoning: Letting too many town roles be known will help the mafia narrow down their focus on to who has the real strong roles. If they are smart than they already know that I am a "needledick" and Fababu is a bodyguard. So now they have narrowed it down to 11 townies that might be holding something more valuable. Any more information should not be released by the town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:47:00 Guys it's between Goose and Howes pick with your gut feelings really...unless either of them speak it really is a toss-up at this point. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:48:35 Sorry, that power admitting post was stupid. MVT makes sense. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 13:50:55 467960607B656A7C0F0 wrote:
::) Fab why do you suspect Tim and I? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 13:54:39 Padzup, check last page. I asked and he answered with: @Syzygy: I don't shifted to you. Darius asked me what are my other suspicious apart from Goose and I say you and Padzup because you are who most I doubt apart from Goose. I won't vote for you because I don't really have any sustancious proof of your guilty. The only reason for suspecting of you is that in a post you said that you doubt of me without giving any explanation; and a few posts after you vote for me without giving any explanation again (although you say them after). That's all. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 13:55:35 I saw that. It doesn't explain anything, at least on my part :-/ Ivo hasn't really given a reason either. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 13:57:05 When someone suspects you it's wise that you give reasons not to be suspected instead of asking why you are being suspected, padcunt. also; if no one has 10 votes, does that mean that no one gets lynched? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 13:57:36 Howes vs Goose Goose - Wild personality changes, and mood swings. That is actually pretty typical of the Goose Master though. He hasn't exactly been the most helpful person but when I read his earlier rants with me and Pobre I can actually see some effort put into his thoughts and posts. Howes - Comes out of the gates with a completely retarded move with the not looking shit. Defends it, ok whatever. Then he doesn't hardly speak at all. Not looking at your role doesnt help the town. Not speaking doesnt help the town. It looks like a trapped mafia to me. Maybe he actually took a gamble and didnt look at his pm only to find out later that he was mafia. He figured well if I talk too much I might take some heat, so he tried and almost successfully dodged the spotlight until now. Decision: Howes Reason = Above information and this fact: Earlier today it was 6 votes towards Fababu and 4 votes towards Goose. Goose took his vote OFF Fababu and went with his gut with a stab at Howes (who at the time only 2 votes against him). I did the same thing when I unvoted for Sword and increased the gap of the next closest vote getter against me 4-2). If Goose was mafia I don't think he would want to leave himself that vulnerable and take his vote away from the top vote getter. My assumption is that Goose could actually be a similar role to what I am (needledick). Bottom Line: Howes better speak up or he is gone. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 14:01:34 @ Time, it's whoever has the highest number of votes. If there is a tie, then it's whoever reached that number first. Anyway, I'm off to bed in a few, so I'm laying my vote down. Vote: Howes. Look at my long post on page 22 or w.e. it was. I didn't like his response to something I said earlier and I feel he's trying to be too careful with his posts. And no, this isn't a "Goose vs. Howes" vote, I don't think Goose has been THAT sus, just a bit retarded and apart from that Fababu was the only one who seemed to stick out but he gets the benefit of the doubt for now. Sword is a suspect for me, but I need to hear more from him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:04:11 Very likely Town Etch Darius Kmacc SportsGuy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 14:06:33 735C5F5F4B5C407E390 wrote:
That's nice, I'd still like to know why he suspects me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:07:38 Padzup can I hear some reasoning as to why you prefer to vote Goose rather than Howes? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 14:09:06 Well, it's the end of day 1; gonna reveal my role. I am Voltorb. I have the ability to sacrifice myself and take someone else's life during the night phase. If In Hiding does not tell me his power role; I'm going to kill him off in the night phase (Mafia or town) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:12:29 If we kill Howes and he is not mafia than we have plenty of reason to kill Goose next. If he is mafia than we know Goose is town. If we kill Goose and he town there is no relationship between that and Howes's role. We will have no leads to chase next day. Therefore it would be better to kill Howes. We would have a much better plan of action no matter what role he turns out to be. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:13:35 pobre you are out of fucking control man...you post like you are about to fucking self destruct and are not interested in any facts, just pure gut decisions. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:15:53 2B04070713041826610 wrote:
So does that also mean that you are not town? So you are the neutral roll that you have mentioned 10000 times? Maybe that explains your ever changing lists too. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 14:16:22 12232A2A12272A23460 wrote:
MVT I was about to talk about that actually. Mainly I just haven't really been inclined to switch votes yet since I don't want to be accused of waffling. I do think Howes has slipped up pretty badly but I don't want to just latch on the easy vote when really it's still up in the air. I am just a bit stubborn I suppose. I'll change my vote before the Day ends if I see any reason to. Sorry for my disjointed posting guys, just a bit wiped. I suppose it wouldn't be a terrible idea to keep Fab around for tonight at least since he can be a free target for mafia to waste a kill/block on while town powers do their thing. For some reason I am afraid of being lynched and this has been responsible for my poor posts lately since I'm too reluctant to post what's on my mind. Hopefully that will change as I have nothing to be worried about :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Syzygy on 03/31/09 at 14:16:52 Time that was stupid. You could have saved that for later in the game. Now mafia know your role which doesn't help things for us at all. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 14:17:35 aren't you basing things of gut decisions you fucking hypocirt? nigga, i will self destruct your ass in a new york minute. Don't fuck wit me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:18:11 So are you town, neutral, or mafia? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 14:19:02 I'm town. And your mothers the town whore. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 03/31/09 at 14:19:11 I'm not convinced of the Howes argument as some of it seems to rest on him not reading his role PM which I don't think is particularly town or mafia. However, I don't find Goose to be that likely mafia either. Fababu's roleclaim as a 'weak' power role seems like quite a safe claim to me that was unlikely to be challenged, although directly claiming his pokemon makes it more convincing. I'm going to reread and decide how legitimate this claim is before I make a decision on any of the three. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:21:24 Well Pobre you better choose someone to self-destruct onto tonight. If not, a mafia will kill you at night for your dangerous town role. Now that you have revealed you pretty much will be dead either way. I suggest killing someone who barely has posted. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 14:21:53 DONT KILL ME BECAUSE I'M NOT MAFIA Holy FUCK guys. Killing me would bad very very bad for the town, the main reason being because I am town. I don't know how to put this any better... yeah, I've been bad at talking about others, but that's because I don't KNOW anything about the others. I only know about myself. Right now in the game it looks like Honko was a dick and made no one mafia but we'll assume this isn't the case. Why am I town? My team lost when I lied and won when I was honest. Assuming winning is in your best interest, my honestly has a large factor in the game. I am town this game. Not only this, but I think it should be completely evident to everyone that I am playing differently than I have the past two games because I don't fuck know how to play town... Why don't you look at someone similar to my personality on the surface? Pobre. This is his first mafia game and he's behaving erratically doing strange things. This is my first game as town and that is also how I'm behaving. And if we were both mafia why would I have made that bet with Tom? Why don't you guys take a look at the bigger picture... not what I said but what I do and who I am. I'm honest by nature. I'm uncomfortable and awkward in new situations (just look at me with girls.) Hopefully you can all look at this as a whole, on the outside, from a rational perspective and then make your decision. I tell you, it's not easy to look at YOURSELF from the outside like I just did for the past 4 paragraphs, and it's a hell of a lot easier to look at others from the outside, since you know, you are on the outside of them. If you can't assess a person's character rationally then you will never be able to attain high character either. IF you don't possess this skill I recommend you learn it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:23:58 Seems like the whole fucking game is town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 14:25:20 Howes is without a doubt the safest bet to lynch today. At night Pobre needs to kill one someone, preferably Lenny since I don't even think he is playing or he forgot about the game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 14:30:46 lol, let the mafia kill me. because i'm not even voltorb. but let them try to kill me anyways. [smiley=evil.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 14:45:03 Ok, i'm officially lost and have no idea anymore. Fababu reveals he is some kind of bodyguard. Pobre reveals he can sacrifice himself and then denies it. Howes hasn't posted. Goose adamantly denies being mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 14:57:31 Yeah, alot of last minute crap going on right now. Fababu has gone to bed, so we aren't going to get anything else out of him before the day ends. Goose is here and wants us to give him the benefit of the doubt, which seems fair for now. He has dug himself a hole, it's going to be hard to redeem himself, but he certainly is trying, I'll give him that. Howes on the other hand ... I don't think he can get out of what he has said. He even said about how he screwed himself over. The day ends in 2 hours, so we will have to make a decision. By the look of it, it's either Howes or Goose. And to be quite honest, Its hard to tell who is who. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 14:59:43 Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 15:12:15 [6] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), Sportsguy, Goose, (Pobre), MVT, Ivootjes, (Pobre), Syzygy, Pobre [5] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, Padzup, Fababu, karterfreak [3] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy) [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes) [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 2 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 15:25:52 Another thing I can say about Howes and myself. The first game I played as mafia, I got votes, but was never in serious danger of being lynched. It was all fun and games because people would vote for me and I easily manipulated them into thinking I was not mafia. The 2nd game I played as mafia, I got lynched. I can honestly say when I got lynched that I hardly cared about it. I made some lame dying attempt to manipulate everyone into following my list, which failed. I didn't try to stop getting lynched at all, after all, it was difficult to communicate with 5 other mafias (compared to 3 from the first game.) This game, I am town. When I am getting votes, I care a lot. It's making me nervous right now to see with 90 minutes left I could seriously get lynched. Howes does not care much. Why does he not care? Probably because being mafia with so many other mafia members is annoying, he thinks the mafia can win without him and a whole bunch of other things I went through when I was in his situation. Right now, I care more about this game than I ever have before and I can't really explain it. I really hope people can see that what I am doing is true and that we make a lynch on Howes tonight because from this emotional aspect he is more fitting to be mafia, along with all the other reasoning we've gone over. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 15:29:45 Seriously, people should stop actin like idiots, don't lie about your role pobre, what did you try to accomplish with this? I think Tom was already asleep anyway. Lying is usually a bad play for town anyway. MVT: did you even read lenny's only post? He said that he would be away for 3 days. I expect him to be active in this game from now on don't be so quick please. And yeah, i also don't like this move |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 15:34:58 Who says I'm not freaking out about being lynched? I haven't posted to this point because I have Ultimate Frisbee after school, so I am gone from 2:00, when school ends, up until 6:00, when I get home. When I get home, like with other sports, I have to shower, and then eat, so only now have I had a chance to go over the pages that built up while I was away. I haven't posted my role because I didn't seriously think that I would be lynched. I figured that someone would come to their senses, and see that I was: a) being retarded, and b) joking around when I wasn't looking at my PM. It seemed like a good idea at the time, but it turns out that it was the worst thing that I could have done. As I said, I just finished reading the topic, thinking about whether I should reveal my role or not. However, you have forced my hand. My role is probably the worst power role ever. I am Slowpoke, an investigator/cop. Every night, I can investigate one player. The catch is, I suck at investigating (I'm a bit slow), so I only get my result back once half the Day has gone by. If you don't believe me, ask yourself whether you believe Fababu, as his role seems generic, and guessable by anyone. And for survival purposes: Vote: Goose |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 15:40:14 Alright, the day is coming to a close and the decision is between Howes and Goose. Seeing as Howes really screwed this up for himself, which I'm sure he is aware of, he could probably forsee all these votes coming. And If I don't vote, people are gonna question why. We've given Fababu the benefit of the doubt for now, and I guess Goose needs to gain some of his trust back from the town, which is going to be very hard. Vote : Howes Day will have ended by the time I next read the topic, so it's either going to be Howes or Goose, either way it will get rid of one suspicious member which will confuse the town in the long run. It's really hard to tell who is who now, It's all so confusing. Hopefully most of this will clear up tomorrow. Going to bed now also, night. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 15:40:35 Note how Howes said he is "an investigator/cop." He could just as easily be the investigator for the mafia as for the town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 15:42:55 Oh, and on top of that... "worst power role ever" wouldn't apply to a townie investigator, since they could determine who is mafia and not. It's a far worse role for mafia since all you can determine is power roles. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 15:44:19 Seriously goose, if i was mafia now i would be extra motivated to show how you should play as mafia, i don't get why you wouldn't care if people vote for you. Lame excuse. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 15:47:19 I think it is best for me to unvote at the moment. Howes is still my likely vote, but his role claim seems legit to me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 15:47:52 Ugh ... another role claim, what the hell. Now I don't know what to do :-/ Typical that Howes would post that while I'm typing my message. Goose, you have a role you wanna admit while we're at it? :P Now I feel like I want to believe Howes ... and Goose at the same time. They are both equally suspicious to me, and now I'm the deciding factor :-[ Unvote Gonna have to think this over a bit more. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 15:48:12 Seriously, more powerrole claims shit, this isn't getting any better. I seriously don't have a clue what to do now :-/ At least howes claimed a stronger role then fababu. Let's stay with this? Last minute switch? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 15:49:35 I'm not going to admit my role because it will become useless if I do. Howes' role could be a mafia role though. He's never specified and I don't think he's ever said he was town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 15:50:48 Goose, the role tells whether a pokemon is mafia or town. I meant an investigative role that is a cop. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 15:51:41 I haven't a clue now, Ivo. Goose has 6 votes, Howes has 5, Fababu has 3. Me, you and Tyler have the power to get Fababu, but is that a good idea? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 15:53:36 4E4B747568795B73736F791C0 wrote:
It would be stupid for him to claim cop if he wasn't a cop. The real cop would scan him, know he was mafia, and he'd be dead. Seems like a stupid thing to do if he wasn't a cop. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 15:54:27 FUCK GUYS. Take out Howes. What the fuck don't you understand? He has the self proclaimed worst role ever. An investigator for town would not be the worst role ever. And investigator for mafia would be. Throw this on top of all the crazy shit surrounding Howes for the past 25 pages and you guys are stupid to not vote for him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 15:54:52 I'm just throwing this out there, but what if he went for a no-lynch. I don't like it, but maybe we should consider it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 15:55:03 anyway, i'm fairly sure that honko gave all mafia at least some first evolution form pokemon to hide behind. In case of a massive roleclaim, but i wonder if he also gave them a possible role to use, i guess not but we can't be so sure :-/ Are there still enough people to get etch out? He has posted the least on day1 seems like our best bet for now? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 15:55:57 KARTERFREAK HE IS A FUCKING MAFIA COP WHY DONT YOU LISTEN TO ME YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES WHO THINK I AM SO GOOD AT THIS GAME AND THEN YOU DONT TAKE MY ADVICE PLEASE TRUST WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. I HAVE NOT LIED YET THIS GAME AND THE ONLY TIME I EVER LIED IN MAFIA OUR TEAM LOST. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 15:56:31 Right now our best bets would be either Fababu or Goose. Honko, how much more time do we have left? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 15:57:35 We have an hour left. How do you guys not understand that Howes is an investigator FOR THE MAFIA? This isn't rocket science you fuck tards. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 15:58:09 It would be the safest bet, but he has 0 votes on him, we'd need to get 5-6 votes on him in an hour. If you think it's wise, I'd be willing to do it, seeing as it's unsafe to lynch any of these people now, as they are all roleclaiming. I'd be willing to vote on someone else, because now Howes pulled out a random roleclaim I'm not to sure about voting him out. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 15:58:46 i believe Howes, i think we should leave him alone for now. Howes, even though its lame to get a response halfway through the day, its still an important role, as a conclusion of who to lynch usually isnt made until later on in the day. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:01:16 If you don't believe me, who should I scan? The response may be slow, but I can assure you that I will get you the answer if I'm still alive in Day 2. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:02:13 Ivo: Some? Everyone is a first-form. Except Honko ::) I'm actually inclined to agree with Goose until Howes states that he is specifically a Town-aligned Cop. Howes if you can't do this then I will vote for you no matter what. Prove to us that you are not mafia, you haven't tried to contribute at all, Goose is at least putting up a good show. e: removed an unvote but honko caught it before i could edit it out so unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 16:02:32 [5] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, karterfreak, Howes [5] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), (Sportsguy), Goose, (Pobre), MVT, Ivootjes, (Pobre), Syzygy, Pobre, (Sword) [3] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy) [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes) [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 1 hour. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 16:04:05 you should scan one of the "in-between" players, like fababu, tyler, etch, syzygy, sword or someone like that, who no one is really sure if they are town or mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:04:26 I can't believe the retardetry I'm seeing in this topic right now. You guys still think Howes is town after admitting that he is a cop with the worst role ever? I wouldn't be surprised if everyone is mafia and I'm the only townie you fucking evil conniving bastards. I've given so much excellent reason as to why Howes is mafia and I've done nothing wrong but be honest, and everyone is after me like I'm some insane assassin. Holy fuck guys. UGH if you lynch me you will immediately see that it was a bad choice. Just don't do it. Trust me. I'm town. How many times do I have to say this for the message to come through. I'm fucking town this game. TOWN TOWN TOWN TOWN TOWN TOWN. 64615E5F42537159594553360 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 16:04:47 I would appreciate it if you guys try to put your votes/unvotes at the start of a line so I can scan the topic easier. It's easy to miss when you unvote in the middle of a sentence or at the end of a line. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:07:14 1E1B242538290B23233F294C0 wrote:
Caps lock makes your point so much more valid. /sarcasm I don't think you're good at the game, not once have I said you are, so don't put those words in my mouth, some of the people may have said that, but I haven't. The reason I highly doubt he is a Mafia cop is for the reason I already mentioned. He'd get killed sooner or later because the real cop will own up and tell who he found as mafia, and Howes is sure to be first on his "to scan" list. On the other hand, you seem to be willing to take a risk in killing our cop. Why are you so eager to have Howes killed if he even has the slightest possibility of being a cop? Think about it for a second now. Lets at least see what Howes has to say day 2. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:09:17 My problem with this is that by killing howes we also get to find out pretty much EXACTLY what side Goose is on. By killing goose we dont get shit out of howes. I still think the best bet is to kill howes. If he was town he would know not to make anymore role claims |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:10:22 Unvote Vote: Fababu I'm considering posting my role, but if I do it, and Fababu dies and Howes lives, then Howes can "pretend" to scan me giving him more fake evidence to his role... If we can agree that we kill Fababu, Howes scans someone else who isn't me tomorrow, I will reveal my role. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:11:00 736E62797A212E21160 wrote:
Etch is town and he is a needledick. I believe he said he was useless? I know Etch, you must trust me when I say he is town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:12:16 Unvote Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:12:44 Goose, that sounds fair, so Fababu today then? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:12:57 You've been playing worse and worse throughout the game goose -_- Seriously, what are the plans now? We obviously can't let everyone who claims something live, and as it looks now it would take us two days to kill fababu and howes. Should fababu protect howes tonight? then we could kill howes tomorrow and et some real information or something. Maybe that howes should scan fababu? Who should we kill? I don't mind losing any of you guys to be honest, what a drama >:( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:13:36 Goose you are proving like you want to die, bringing fababu back into this. I beleive you to be town in fact. Howes still has completely dodged the question of what kind of cop he is. How can I trust him? He didnt look at his role and now he wants us to believe that he is the key to our victory? Is this another fucking mindgame? I will continue to support a howes lynch |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:14:57 Pobre I find it retarded that EVERY SINGLE TIME THAT GOOSE CHANGES VOTES YOU CHANGE TO THE SAME THING AS HIM STOP FUCKING COPYING HIM DUMBASS |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:15:46 6E737F64673C333C0B0 wrote:
I agree with this list, pick someone from it, someone who appears suspicious to you from it (me included, if you feel I am suspicious) and see what you get. We can see if he is valid from what he finds out during the night tomorrow, and what he tells us. As for Fababu ... we have no idea what his role is. Maybe if he lives through the night we can find out what it is. But most importantly, who are we going to lynch? We have 45 minutes from now left ... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:16:16 Ugh. I really think Howes is better to kill than Fababu... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:16:36 Unvote Vote: Fababu Howes roleclaim sounds more real. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:16:44 Yo MVT; I'd like to keep my friends close; but as the old saying goes; keep your enemies closer. You're not thinking about the long term. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:16:54 then go with what you believe in Goose, I support you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:17:23 7D4C4957585D2D0 wrote:
I am a Town-aligned Cop. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:17:40 I still think we should kill etch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:17:48 I claimed to be Voltorb; (which was a blatant lie) But it had a reasonable belief to it. thats what voltorb does, he commits suicide to take down his opponent. Slowpoke as an investigator? that just dosn't make sense; unless honko is retarded. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:19:25 howes roll-claim doesnt sound real at all. He knew that the cop was the ONLY role in the game that could save him from being lynched today so he went with it. He hasn't even stated that he is a TOWN cop either. @sword stop with your stupid "oh if you think I am suspicious then kill me" crap. You include yourself in your own suspect lists. You have never acted this way in past games where you were town. I still am keeping a close eye on you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:19:44 Don't take it personally MVT; infact; your response has proven to me that you are town. 5 townies confirmed in my book. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:20:56 Hmm, i'm going to check what exactly slowpoke can do in pokemon, i'll get back to this later |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:21:29 I think Howes is more mafia than Fababu... I guess we'll see come the lynch. If Fababu is not mafia then don't say I didn't tell you so. I'm pretty sure Howes is, as well as Pobre, but we're voting Fababu because we can't sway you guys to vote Howes for whatever reason. It's obvious Howes is lying. He just posted verbatim "I am a town aligned cop" because he was told to... seriously. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:21:45 It is so fucking ironic that the only role he could have to save him from being killed is the cop role and that is what he is claiming. I don't fucking beleive it. Wouldn't a cop try to actually participate in the game? And if he was the real cop why would he admit it when he knows he will be killed by the mafia? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:21:46 http://www.dltk-kids.com/pokEmon/adoptions/slowpoke-p.htm Slowpoke is psychic according to this, so his roleclaim might be legit. I for one just don't want to risk it, losing a cop on day 1 would be the worst thing that could happen to town right now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:22:06 1E213838233D3224570 wrote:
Your making a mistake. Howes; Fababu are the prime suspects at this moment. I just find it funny how KoopZ, In Hiding, and Darius aren't saying shit anymore. Nether is Cam. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 16:22:28 in the games, wasn't slowpoke usually used by team rocket? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:23:24 353F2C2A3B2C01382C3B3F355E0 wrote:
HE IS NOT A TOWN COP I GUARANTEE YOU THIS |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:24:13 damn bullbapedia the ultimate pokemon info world is down right now |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:25:14 Fuck, sorry whoever changed... UGH I can't go back to Howes... people are just too stupid to vote for him. BAH I know voting Howes is the right thing to do for the town, but voting for Fababu is the best thing to do for me. I guess I'll stop being selfish. Unvote Vote: Howes And that is it. I am not changing my vote for the rest of the night unless it's 8:55 and me and Fababu are tied. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 16:25:56 or you can just ask me, i know pretty much everything about the games at least :P directed @ matt or MVT or whoever |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:26:14 man, now that i think about it; Howes is definitely Mafia. Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:26:33 Goose, how can you 'guarantee' that he's mafia? Nothing is guaranteed, espescially in day 1. You're usually the guy that goes with statistics. So figure out the statistics for us winning if we lose our cop on day 1. Are you seriously ready to take that chance? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Extol on 03/31/09 at 16:27:15 There you go again Pobre, changing your vote to match Goose's immediately after he did. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:27:39 Slowpoke as an investigator who takes half a day to get results because he is slow. That's the joke. Goose why are you getting so worked up over this? We would be more likely to listen to you if you weren't hysterically trying to get Howes killed. Jeff that's a great point. Kmacc isn't here either but he said he probably wouldn't be so that's up in the air. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:27:42 MVT, I was suggesting that if Howes wants to scan someone to prove he is the town cop, he can scan me, as I am suspect to quite a few people, and not many people are believing me. It has nothing to do with "You think I'm suspicious so kill me". Get it right. I don't include myself in my own suspect lists. I know I'm town, but I am aware that others don't believe this, and find me suspicious. Just throwing out the option of being scanned. 35 minutes of the day left. About Ivo wanting to get Etch, it isn't possible for today, we won't get nearly enough people to vote in time. It's either Goose, Howes or Fababu. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:27:51 fuck this, i might still wanna go with howes, how much votes does he have at the moment? People should unvote goose -_- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:27:53 I can't guarantee anything karterfreak, except for my honesty. I believe with the bottom of my heart that lynching Howes is the best, most realistic thing for us to do right now in the game. And that I can guarantee. My belief. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:28:16 Me and Goose possess intellects far above any of you fags here. It's only natural that geniuses such as us would share the same views. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:29:38 1021243A3530400 wrote:
Because if I get lynched the town will lose. That is why I am getting worked up about it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:30:05 Ok, if honko would add slowpoke, would he really make him a freaking cop? That's the question for now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 16:30:20 0A6F6E6F5E0 wrote:
Technically we still could get Etch if we wanted to. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:30:26 0802111706113C0511060208630 wrote:
The only person that would defend howes at this point is ether, 1.) Socially retarded. 2.) Just retarded. 3.) Is a fellow Mafia member. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:30:29 634C4F4F5B4C506E290 wrote:
and me :D edit- added quote ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 16:31:26 [5] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, karterfreak, Howes [4] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy), (Goose), (Pobre), Ivootjes [4] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), (Sportsguy), (Goose), (Pobre), MVT, (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Syzygy, (Pobre), (Sword), Goose, Pobre [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes) [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 30 minutes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:31:45 And if Fababu is also Mafia, he's going to defend howes if he's Mafia. >:( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:32:14 Making hitmonchan or hitmonlee or whatever a bodyguard seems legit to me, judging by the picture |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:32:18 people need to get the fuck off fababu... he is a harmless town it should only be down to howes and goose for anyone |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:34:50 Which means that fababu's roleclaim seems more legit to me than howes. Unvote Vote Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:35:17 Ugh, I realize I'm basically fucked. Fababu and Howes are both voting for me, as well as Tom whom I have that bet with, and two inactive people. Unless we can get two more people to come in here or two people to vote Fababu, I will get lynched and the game becomes an easy win for the mafia. :( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:35:33 7E415858435D5244370 wrote:
Goose - 5 Howes - 4 Fababu - 3 They all claim to have roles, ffs. I'd be willing to go for any of them, it seems like complete utter chance at the moment. We could get any of them, but who would be the safest bet? I agree with Matt about losing the cop killing us over, so should we even risk it with Howes? We have no idea what Fababu's role is, either. And Goose isn't going to tell us, it looks like. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:36:21 http://www.reload.me.uk/stuff/slowpoke.jpg ^ COP??? NAH http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/ani107.gif ^ BODYGUARD? YES! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:36:23 Oh, and 1 virtual vote for Etch. Etch 1 (ivo) If we get a majority we could switch last minute but pobre isn't agreeing because he's so sure that etch is town because he knows him well and can judge him from 3 confusing posts. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:37:19 Voting for etch would be a sorry excuse to end the day when there is absolutely nothing he has done wrong compared to Howes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:37:57 Why is Fababu's role more legit than mine? There are at least 2 or three other pokemon that could be bodyguards, like Machop, Hitmonlee, or Snorlax. It's easy enough to pick a random fighting type to say is a 'bodyguard.' |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:38:09 Well, right now my vote stays on Goose. The only thing Howes has done to even warrant being suspicious is his post saying he didn't check his role PM yet. Yes, its suspicious, and at the same time, I don't see a mafia (especially someone who isn't an idiot like Howes) overlooking how suspicious that kind of post would make him look. If someone can convince me otherwise, I'll consider changing my vote to howes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 16:39:16 Ivo, that dude looks like bodyguard and the other doesn't really like a cop except that it is fat. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:39:19 It is also easy enough to use a random ass pokemon, call it a town-cop, and pray to god that you got home into to save your mafia ass. Your excuse was put together very haphazardly. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:39:31 Ok, Unvote Vote: Etch You want to start an etch bandwagon? So fucking be it! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:39:37 70151415240 wrote:
Goose - 5 Howes - 4 Fababu - 3 They all claim to have roles, ffs. I'd be willing to go for any of them, it seems like complete utter chance at the moment. We could get any of them, but who would be the safest bet? I agree with Matt about losing the cop killing us over, so should we even risk it with Howes? We have no idea what Fababu's role is, either. And Goose isn't going to tell us, it looks like.[/quote] When exactly has Goose claimed a power role. Show me, or Goose, tell me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:40:00 Ok, now I'm really confused. The picture MVT posted speaks for itself, though. Unless Honko was extremely retarded with the character selection, which I hope he wasn't ::) And Howes waited untill the end of today, when most of the players had gone to bed, and decided to roleclaim, so if he was lying, the person couldn't counter-claim, because they'd be sleeping. And MVT is right, he picked the safest role and the one that would get him saved. I'm still a little clueless so I'll follow you guys on this one Unvote Vote : Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 16:40:46 Goose hasn't claimed anything |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 16:41:19 [5] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, karterfreak, Howes [5] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), (Sportsguy), (Goose), (Pobre), MVT, (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Syzygy, (Pobre), (Sword), Goose, (Pobre), Ivootjes, Sword [3] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy), (Goose), (Pobre), (Ivootjes) [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [1] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes), Pobre [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 20 minutes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:41:39 "Well, right now my vote stays on Goose. The only thing Howes has done to even warrant being suspicious is his post saying he didn't check his role PM yet. Yes, its suspicious, and at the same time, I don't see a mafia (especially someone who isn't an idiot like Howes) overlooking how suspicious that kind of post would make him look. If someone can convince me otherwise, I'll consider changing my vote to howes. " Ok, I will try. When attacked, Howes hasn't really tried to defend himself. He never said he was town, not even while admitting his role, until someone asked him specifically to say he is town, which he then said exactly verbatim. Not a lot of heart in there... it's hard to put your entire heart into a lie. Compare Howes against me. I honestly believe the only reason you, Tom and a few others are voting for me is because you personally don't like me. Why don't you stop being selfish because that kind of thing can cost your team the game. Now ask yourself. What means more to you? Your personal hate for me, or your team winning the game. Then make a decision. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:41:42 SYYYKKKE Unvote Vote: Howes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:41:43 66635C5D4051735B5B4751340 wrote:
This may or may not be a power role, I can't be sure ... but it's implying something. This was the post I was talking about. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:41:49 0B01121405123F061205010B600 wrote:
Let's say we kill Howes today. Goose has been the strongest person against Howes since page fucking 1. If Howes is town, than we KNOW that Goose is mafia. If Howes is mafia, than we KNOW that Goose is town. Basically we get to find out what 2 people are by killing Howes. By killing Goose we don't get to find out shit about Howes since he has barely posted anything. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:42:34 Tommrow; We Lynch Karter Freak. Today? We Lynch howes. 3rd day; we shall lycnh fababu. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:43:30 Do we get to find out the moment they die what their role was? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:44:04 Matt do you sort of understand what I mean by saying a Howes lynch also will solidify what Goose is? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:44:39 Well, goose could also be wrong off course? :-? But i do agree that it is suspicious. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:44:58 Etch would fucking tear us apart for lynching him when he hasn't even been on all day. Ivo I don't see why you insist on lynching him, I find him more suspect than usual but I don't believe there is enough evidence to indicate either way. Yes Jeff we find out immediately. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:44:59 6A5B52526A5F525B3E0 wrote:
Let's say we kill Howes today. Goose has been the strongest person against Howes since page fucking 1. If Howes is town, than we KNOW that Goose is mafia. If Howes is mafia, than we KNOW that Goose is town. Basically we get to find out what 2 people are by killing Howes. By killing Goose we don't get to find out shit about Howes since he has barely posted anything.[/quote] So having a strong view on something means you're mafia? I can't guarantee that Howes is a fucking mafia, but FROM WHAT WE HAVE GATHERED OVER THE PAST 3 DAYS IT LOOKS LIKE HE MOST LIKELY IS MAFIA out of the group of players here. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 16:45:25 Yes, your role is revealed when you die. [6] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), (Sportsguy), (Goose), (Pobre), MVT, (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Syzygy, (Pobre), (Sword), Goose, (Pobre), Ivootjes, Sword, Pobre [5] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, karterfreak, Howes [3] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy), (Goose), (Pobre), (Ivootjes) [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes), (Pobre) [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 15 minutes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:46:05 Unless someone changes their vote to Howes, Goose is going to die. And I agree with MVT's plan - killing Howes gives us some basis to work on, killing Goose gives us little to nothing. Time : Yes, when he is lynched in 20 minutes, Honko will lock the topic, we will find out who the lynched person was, and then the night begins. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:46:46 Killed by my own town... How wasteful. The town is completely screwed. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:47:12 Just to put this out there: Nobody under any circumstances should vote because it's a 'lost cause'. I don't want to see any of that bullshit here. Vote based on your opinion and yours alone. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:48:22 01043B3A2736143C3C2036530 wrote:
I did that multiple times already, pay attention. 01043B3A2736143C3C2036530 wrote:
What even makes you think I hate you? Do you have any idea how many times I've talked with Booth on AIM, where he says he doesn't like you (for alot of probably valid reasons), and I've defended you, saying he probably doesn't know you well enough? You honestly think my vote is that self-centred when there's no basis for me to even dislike you? I don't personally know you, and I'm rarely in a conversation with you in or outside of the forums, so I can't even form a fair opinion of you. Saying I'm voting for you just because I don't like you is silly, espescially with your changes in post style throughout the last couple hours and other things that make you suspicious in my eyes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Time on 03/31/09 at 16:48:23 http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs027.snc1/2652_66708777131_516917131_2112831_851446_n.jpg |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:49:11 WOW! "Killed by my own town... How wasteful. The town is completely screwed. " That is EXACTLY what I said a few pages back. How many times are you going to copy what I say? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:49:59 because of a really gay formatting error picked up by the mafia dialog i'm unvoting unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:50:53 If that was the case, I'd be voting for Etch or for No-Lynch. But we aren't gonna get enough people to do that, I don't think. I want to vote No-lynch because I don't want to take the risk, but at the same time It would leave us in a bad situation. But we've learnt about voting patterns throughout the day, at least. I just hope this isn't a complete fuck up for the town, and the first day isn't even over yet. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:51:00 I honestly did not see when you said that, and what other times have I 'copied' what you said? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:51:04 Well, etch wouldn't mind if we lynch him i think, in his 4 posts he started with: we should lynch the inactive players. He is the least active player around. (well lenny is too but he told us he would come back in 3 days) Etch is going to laugh his ass of if he's mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 16:51:17 Do we really want risk losing the cop? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 03/31/09 at 16:52:01 Aw, thanks for standing up for me karterfreak... I'm sorry I called you out on that. It just seems like everyone hates me these days for no apparent reason and it's hard not to get emotional. Sorry if I've been talking too much in caps and what not... it's just difficult to deal with all this drama and hard for me to stay strong and do the right thing, which I believe I am doing by voting Howes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:54:01 The worst part about this all, is that it is April 1st over here now, so perhaps this is all an early April Fool's joke. [smiley=ninja.gif] Day ends in less than 10 minutes. I guess Howes is being lynched, then? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:55:00 Well Sword there's a possibility (albeit a small one) that all three are town powers and mafia are laying back and get to pick off whoever they like tonight. But it's more likely that that at least one is lying. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:55:01 Unless someone votes for Goose, then Howes will be killed. I hope to god Howes isn't the cop if he gets killed. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 16:55:18 [6] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), (Sportsguy), (Goose), (Pobre), MVT, (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Syzygy, (Pobre), (Sword), Goose, (Pobre), Ivootjes, Sword, Pobre [5] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, karterfreak, Howes [3] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy), (Goose), (Pobre), (Ivootjes) [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes), (Pobre) [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) With 19 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 10 votes, or in 5 minutes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:55:23 yay, sword also wants to vote for etch, that makes 2, we need 5 or 6 |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 16:56:18 I'll vote for etch, i think it is the safest play. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:56:40 That's 3 |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:57:15 Ivo why do you insist on getting Etch? Unless you have reason to believe he's a mafia power we should sit on it for a bit. Let one of the power roles deal with him overnight if you are that worried. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:57:28 Dont fucking vote for etch it aint going to work... Also by killing howes we get to find out who pobre is since he is sided with goose VOTE HOWES PEOPLE! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:57:31 I could vote for Etch, I see nothing wrong with lynching him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:57:43 I guess it's settled then. Howes is being lynched. Lets hope that he wasn't telling the truth ... *crosses his fingers and hopes for the best* |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:57:48 I'll vote for etch, thats 4. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:58:19 Pobre is probably town regardless of what Goose is, or he is someone in it for themselves. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:58:44 That makes 4. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 16:59:00 60 seconds left |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Padzup on 03/31/09 at 16:59:04 I know this goes back on my previous statement but I'll lynch Etch if it's absolutely necessary. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/31/09 at 16:59:05 If we could get enough for Etch, I'd be willing to do it. I mean, I'm not comfortable with voting now ... it's really really risky. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/31/09 at 16:59:10 Vote Etch Everyone else is claiming a town role, unfortunately he isn't here to defend himself. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Kmacc on 03/31/09 at 16:59:17 Five minutes until day ends and that's when I get home, this sucks. There's way too many pages for me to read to make a decision. I know I have info from what's happen earlier in the day, but to be quite honest I'm probably not qualified to make an educated vote for either with so much happening today. I don't kow what's been said by either, so I don't know what to do. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 03/31/09 at 16:59:22 lol at lynching etch too fucking late kids That is retarded to do |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Howes on 03/31/09 at 16:59:34 unvote Vote: Etch |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 03/31/09 at 16:59:44 We've got 5, if i'm correct that makes a tie with howes, but 60 seconds is a bit short -_- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by karterfreak on 03/31/09 at 16:59:48 unvote Vote: Etch |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Night 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 03/31/09 at 17:20:04 The Pokemon began their epic journey to Toad Castle. They spent 12 hours trudging down long and windy roads. Just as the sun was setting, they reached a beautiful beach. "Let's rest here for the night." "Cool." "Where do we head tomorrow?" "Uhhh...that way!" "That's.....the complete opposite direction we've been going all day." "Haha, is it? What a coincidence!" "Are you serious?" "I don't know where the hell Toad Castle is. It's not even on my Town Map!" Frustrated by this frustrating turn of events, the Pokemon needed a way to vent their frustration. They decided to drown someone in the sea. "Let's get Goose!" "No, he'd float anyway. Get it? Cuz he's a Goose. LOL!" "Fine, how about Fababu?" "Yeah, that'd be Fababulous!" "Man, we already covered that joke last game, screw that." "OK, Howes about we kill Howes?" "...if it will end these terrible puns, sure." They beat Howes up, knocked him out, and left him on a rock to drown as the tide came in. "You know, actually I've got an Itch to kill Etch." "TOO LATE, SHUT UP." Howes has died. He was MEOWTH, Mafia GODFATHER. Night 1 begins now. You have ~24 hours to send me your night actions by PM. Day 2 will start at 6pm PDT, or possibly earlier if I receive all night actions before then. Final Day 1 Vote Totals [6] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), (Sportsguy), (Goose), (Pobre), MVT, (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Syzygy, (Pobre), (Sword), Goose, (Pobre), Ivootjes, Sword, Pobre [3] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, (karterfreak), (Howes) [3] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy), (Goose), (Pobre), (Ivootjes) [3] Etch - (Kmacc), (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Sportsguy, Howes, karterfreak [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Koopz - (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol - (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT - (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius - (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny - (karterfreak) [0] Sword - (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Honko on 04/01/09 at 15:02:32 As the sun rose in Beautiful Beachland, our brave adventurous Pokemon began to wake up. Well, most of them anyway. "Hey, what's yellow and brown and red all over?" "Dude, I just woke up. Save the bad jokes for later." "No, seriously, what the hell is that?" "Oh, wow. It looks like some kind of fat yellow fox." "That's a lot of blood. Cool!" Kmacc has died. He was ABRA, Town COP. "So, what do we do now?" "We continue our journey. And over the next 72 hours, we discuss and vote in a civilized manner. Then we gruesomely murder someone at the end of the day." "Sounds like a plan!" Active Player List 1) Darius 2) EnigmaticCam 3) Etch 4) Extol 5) Fababu 6) Goose 8) In Hiding 9) Ivootjes 10) karterfreak 12) Koopz 13) Lenny 14) MVT 15) Padzup 16) Pobre 17) Sportsguy 18) Sword 19) Syzygy Dead 7) Howes - Lynched Day 1 - MEOWTH, Mafia GODFATHER 11) Kmacc - Killed Night 1 - ABRA, Town COP Day 2 begins now. It will end at exactly 4:00pm Pacific time on Saturday. With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. The day ends when a player reaches 9 votes, or in 72 hours. Reminder to dead players: Don't post anything about the game. One post of "bah" or "good luck" is ok if you really feel the need to say something, but save your suspicions, your night actions, and anything you wish you had said yesterday until after the game is over. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/01/09 at 15:09:03 Most definitely interesting plot twists! Awesome we got a mafia killed first day, but very sad we've lost our cop first day, and Kmacc as well. And I'm still here >.> I'm heading out right now and will be away for most of the night, but I'll be back late in time to hopefully post something a bit more meaningful. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 15:15:05 Let's take a look at who was adamant about voting for me rather than Howes: (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, (karterfreak) Tom could be mafia, but I don't think so given our bet. Extol is reasonable, same as Karterfreak. Either of them could be, if not both. Fababu could be as well. Vote Extol Let's hear some shit bitch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 15:18:36 killed the godfather lose the cop...wow what a quick start |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOOOOOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 15:31:32 Damn was i wrong... I take it this makes me suspicious now, cause i screwed up on my guesses. I dont have time for a big post now, but we should look at the players who did not vote for Howes, as they become suspicious (i know this includes me) It is more likely that sme of them are mafia, because Howes didnt have a lot of votes on him as it was, so fellow mafia were less likely to vote for their own. But they cant all be mafia though (applies to me). |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 15:45:01 People who voted for Howes could still be mafia... when I was mafia I voted for mafia sometimes. It's not a bad play. Though in fairness, hardly anyone actually wanted to vote for Howes and since I was tied with him for a long time, quite clearly it is in the best interest of the mafia to vote for me in this case. I'm getting fed up with the inactive people as well. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 15:50:19 Thats what i meant, mafia would be more hesitant to vote for Howes when he was tied with you, because they didnt want to be the one to put the deciding vote on their mate. So in this case, it seems unlikely that they would vote for him, unless maybe the last vote before the day ended, or maybe if they voted for him and then changed their vote right before the day ended. (directed @ Goose) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 15:50:39 safe list goose pobre sportsguy sword ivootjes syzygy After rereading the past 10 pages of the thread I really would be hard pressed to vote for any of the above players. Just the way they posted and thought things through makes them extremely unlikely to be mafia. Take a read for yourself and see if you can dispute any of them as being safe? No true mafia would jump on the howes bandwagon when he was behind / tied in votes to Goose for a long time. Fababu is also more than likely town I beleive. But the list above is of people I am almost CERTAIN to be townies. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 15:55:32 Lol MVT, I just copied the list of people who voted for Howes and was about to post it, but saw that's what you did exactly. I think we can add Tom and Cooper to the safe list based on stuff from yesterday. safe list goose pobre sportsguy sword ivootjes syzygy In Hiding KoopZ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 15:56:02 possible mafia members 1) Darius 2) EnigmaticCam 3) Etch 4) Extol 5) Fababu (probably town) 8) In Hiding 10) karterfreak 12) Koopz (leaning town) 13) Lenny 15) Padzup |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/01/09 at 15:57:13 I think etch should be posting. He has by far the least amount of posts. Also, Lenny is supposed to be back today or tomorrow so he needs to post more also. I probably shouldn't have voted for him so late in the day without him having a chance to defend himself. Vote Etch Hopefully he has good to say. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 15:59:48 i think Lenny is back, but he wont be on the forum til after he gets out of school, which is at the earliest like 1 AM EST I would like to see what he has to say about everything so far :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 16:04:23 Oh yeah, in regards to all those role claims from yesterday; We are all different Pokemon as far as I know and assume. I don't see why Honko would have put several people as Bulbasaur or Pikachu, that would just be lame. I'm going to guess everyone in the game has at least some kind of small role, no matter how insignificant, or at the very least, the ones without roles are Bulbasaur/Charmander/Squirtle/Pikachu and those are the equivalent of our needledicks, at least that is what seems logical. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/01/09 at 16:07:17 Mafia Godfather and Townie Cop, both dead in the same night. Wow. Still town, just because the cop is dead doesn't mean it's over. We still have a fighting chance. Darius kept referring to the fact that he doesn't post that much on Day 1. Now that later days are coming up, he should provide some good analysis. If he doesn't, something is up. I think I'm gonna wait a bit longer before I vote for someone. The day has just started, we have plenty of time. Hopefully in the next 72 hours Etch gets at least one chance to post something, I understand he is busy for now though. As for Lenny ... he has a lot to read through, and alot to catch up on, and when he returns, he better make a lengthy post that makes sense. During the First Day my suspicions were all over the place, it could of been any of the 3 ... now it's a bit more clear as to who is what. Its late for me now ... I'll be here tomorrow, I'll post more then. I'm going to bed now, night. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 16:12:21 I don't see why the town needs a cop when we have Goose and Pobre. Besides, how can we be sure there aren't more town cops? if there's any testament to my greatness in this game, yesterday clearly shows it. Everyone hated me and suspected me as mafia, and those who didnt think I was mafia still wanted me out because they dislike me. I STILL was able to convince enough people to vote for Howes, even though no one wanted to follow what I did, and he was mafia fucking GODFATHER. I don't see how you can argue with me being amazing at this game, so everyone should listen to what I have to say about different people when I can grasp enough information about them. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 16:27:15 4C5D687F6B686E794E647F6E61680D0 wrote:
vote: EnigmaticCam that post sounds exactly like something i would have said last game when i was mafia to make myself sound innocent. Actually iirc, most mafia said something like that at one point or another when a day began. not saying everyone who says that is mafia, Cam's just sounds fabricated to me |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 16:34:30 Quote:
aaaaaaaaand that post sounds exactly like something that would be said to make yourself sound innocent as well. What a kewl coincidence. Not moving my vote from Extol for now... I think with this false accusation from Extol on Cam, we can assume Cam is town, but I wouldn't set that in stone yet. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 16:37:31 Why can’t we make a separate thread for day 2???? It would be far more efficient; anyways… This is a pre-written Post. Because I may not be alive to post this. Do not even reply to this post if you are not going to read it all. Howes has been confirmed Mafia God Father; with the votes put against him, I can ask certain questions considering he is the most powerful mafia player out there. Kmacc Has been confirmed killed; town cop; Abra; I think I got a pretty clear idea of whos Mafia now. Before I begin the interrogation I would like to point out someone very important, Etch Etch: As I’ve stated early on and many times; My certainty that Etch is Town is something like 75%. If there is anyone that can spot a lie from Etch it is me; from a mile away I know when this guy is lying, but that isn’t the case here; Etch has become a prime target for many; with only 4 measly post. There was nothing that held him in suspicion above Howes; yet so many attacked him? Etch is going to medical school, he has a Job; he is a staff member for the site; he is a busy fucking person; that is more than enough reason for him to be as inactive as he was; and even with his post; he posted nothing suspicious; I personally believe and I want every real townie to acknowledge this; is that Etch is known for his intellect; It would be reasonable to assume that Mafia players would want to take out this formidable threat before he even has time to retaliate; and let me remind you; the only reason people attacked Etch in the first place was because of his absence in the thread; any real townie would know that he can be excused for the reasons I listed above; Now I ask again; why would anyone attack him over Howes near the end of the game? Now; Lets move on to my prime suspects; Ivootjes: I would like to know why you only chose to vote for Howes only once his lynching was certain, and started a bandwagon against etch? You are mafia if I ever seen it; and your attempts at defending your own ass are pathetic. Etch is far less suspicious than Howes was. You continued on saying “that’s 2, that’s 3, that’s 4, etc.” I want some good fucking answers from you brah. Karterfreak: Why would you drop your vote against Goose and attack Etch who has provided far less suspicion than Goose, and at the very end as a bandwagon effort at that? Were you trying to save your beloved God Father Howes? You even stooped so low as to even believe that slowpoke could ever be a god damn cop! xD Here are the Final votes for Day 1 for reference purposes. Final Day 1 Vote Totals [6] Howes - (Goose), (Pobre), (Goose), (Sportsguy), (Goose), (Pobre), MVT, (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Syzygy, (Pobre), (Sword), Goose, (Pobre), Ivootjes, Sword, Pobre [3] Goose - (Pobre), (MVT), (In Hiding), (Extol), In Hiding, Extol, (Padzup), Fababu, (karterfreak), (Howes) [3] Fababu - Kmacc, (Pobre), (Goose), Etch, (Syzygy), Darius, (Pobre), (Sword), (Syzygy), (Goose), (Pobre), (Ivootjes) [3] Etch – (Kmacc), (Ivootjes), (Pobre), Sportsguy, Howes, karterfreak [1] No Lynch - EnigmaticCam [0] Koopz- (Pobre), (Syzygy) [0] Syzygy - (Koopz) [0] Sportsguy - (Koopz), (In Hiding), (Pobre), (Koopz), (Ivootjes) [0] Ivootjes - (EnigmaticCam), (Koopz), (karterfreak), (Sword) [0] Extol – (Goose) [0] In Hiding - (Goose), (Pobre) [0] Padzup - (Sword) [0] Kmacc - (Padzup) [0] MVT – (Pobre), (Goose), (Sword), (Extol), (Goose) [0] Darius – (Syzygy), (Pobre) [0] Lenny – (karterfreak) [0] Sword – (Darius), (Howes), (MVT) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Howes), (Extol), (karterfreak) [0] Pobre - (karterfreak), (Padzup) Now for everyone else. Pobre: To my fellow townies; I have voted against Howes 6 times; from the start and the finish; The fact that I would vote against the head mafia player early on, and until the end; should suffice for any real townie, that I am indeed a townie. Goose: Same with Pobre. I was suspicious at Goose at first because of his cocky attitude, but once he made his emo post I was certain that he was town; and I stuck with him because I believe he has a very strong intuition. He is an obvious town member. MVT: Just as solid as me and Goose; you lifted your suspicions of Goose early on; and you voted for Howes midway. I think it’s more than safe to assume you are town; because you urged everyone to vote for Howes based on proper reasoning. Extol I wanted to know why you voted for Goose but not Howes. Sportsguy: You voted for howes early on; but dropped your vote and attacked etch, Why was that? You are on the fence my friend; but you an’t in the red like Karter Freak and Ivootjes. Sword: I would like to know why it is you started voting for Howes only after his lynching was certain. Other than that; You are off my book of suspicions. Syzygy The same question I asked Sword; I’m asking you. Fababu You’re still highly suspect, but I don’t think it’s worth voting you off so early on in the game. You seem to be useless on both sides no offense. In Hiding: I would like to know your thoughts on me and Goose now. Ready to lose that bet? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 16:38:20 Kmacc: He voted for Fababu, one of the prime suspects at first; not really sure what to make of Kmacc, but I have a strong nudge that he is Town, and I’ve proven my intuition is quite strong, no? And what do you know! HE”S FUCKING DEAD! -_- Lenny Post your thoughts; you should be back by now. EnigmaticCam Take some damn alka seltzer; and why would someone else claim to be sick as well? Also, you were playing pretty neutral throughout the first day, but now we got a lot of information and I expect you to up your game a bit; town or mafia. Padzup Why were you supporting slowpoke = a cop? That makes no god damn sense. And your “It takes half a day for him to investigate, that’s why he’s slow” shit is laughable. Other than that I’ve got nothing else to say, other than you aren’t doing a good enough job convincing anyone that you’re town; and you are coming off with a strong mafia aura. Darius I want to explain to me how my reasoning was shit despite the fact that I voted for the God Father 6 times and you didn’t vote for him at all. KoopZ Your thoughts? This is my updated list on mafia/town predictions as well as rolls. [M] Howes - Confirmed Mafia God Father (Deceased) Goose - Town (Powerful Role?) Fababu - Town (Bodyguard possibly, Hitmonchan) Etch - Town Karterfreak - Mafia Koopz - Town Syzygy - Town Sportsguy - Town Ivootjes - Mafia Extol - Town In Hiding - Town Padzup- Mafia [T] Kmacc - Town Abra/Deceased MVT – Town Darius – Mafia Lenny – Town Sword – Town EnigmaticCam - Town Pobre - Town That would make for 5 Mafia Players, and 13 Townies. Keep in mind that this list will change as the day progresses. And now to lay down my vote. Vote: Ivootjes |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/01/09 at 16:46:32 Quote:
The reason i voted for etch was because goose and howes were defending themselves pretty well imo and etch hadn't done anything. Etch could be still be mafia, and i will think he is until he defends himself. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 16:48:40 If Howes were defending himself well he wouldn't have told everyone that he looked at his role (Explain to me how that has any benefit if you are town or mafia) Besides; Howes got lynched; that should suffice that his defense was shit. I want all townies to drag this untill the 72 hour mark so are vote can be CERTAIN. Edit Reason - 72 hour instead of just "72" |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/01/09 at 16:53:13 I was referring to at the very end pobre where howes claimed his role of slowpoke. I don't know pokemon so i didn't know he would be a lame cop. Looking back his defense wasn't good because he was lynched. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 16:53:15 2439352E2D767976410 wrote:
That is a mafia play if I ever seen one you fag. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 16:54:16 7F7A454459486A42425E482D0 wrote:
sure, we'll go with that thinking about going and hiding so i cant look any more suspicious :-[ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 16:58:01 6B6E51504D5C7E56564A5C390 wrote:
Ivootjes is strongly leaning towards mafia; don't put him on your safe list. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:02:16 With KMACC dead it's safe to say Mafia has a scanner of some sort! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/01/09 at 17:05:50 Pobre, maybe the mafia has a scanner but i doubt they scan during the day. I think they got lucky and killed the cop. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:08:07 How fucking lucky is that? Thats way to damn coincidental. Mayby Mafia didn't kill anyone; and mewtwo raped abra during the middle of the night! TOM, I'M LOOKING AT YOU! [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:17:16 Goose I want to hear your reasoning against Extol being Mafia. I'm also suspicious of him but I want to know your reasoning because I'm to lazy to go back pages and formulate my own. WHY SO SILENT!? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:18:45 I'M GOING TO FUCKING LAY MY IRON COCK DOWN ON ALL YOU SONS OF BITCHES AND USE A GOD DAMN BUTCHERS KNIFE TO CLAW AWAY AT YOUR VERY GOD DAMN BEING! o_o ONE WAY OR THE OTHER YOU WILL FUCKING CRACK UNDER THE MIGHT OF MY MIGHTY HAND! O_O PREPARE YOURSELF MAFIA SCUM I'M GOING TO FUCKING EAT YOU SONS OF BITCHES ALIVE!!! ARARHGHGHGHGGH >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 17:20:23 wow, who can argue with that? mafia should just reveal themselves now, cause i dont think you want to deal with what Pobre has in store for you...yikes :o |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:20:29 SPEAK MOTHERFUCKERS! PREPARE TO KISS ASS! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:22:41 .... so quick to turn into a smart ass under such little provocation are we?... hmm?... :-/ I thought you would remain in the shadows extol... why so quick to anger with me? if you aren't mafia why are you even paying attention to such taunts? :-/ Unvote Vote: Extol |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 17:22:51 You quoted the same post I quoted and said it sounded mafia. Basically answering your own question :) I voted for Extol and he's not worried at all. That's mafioso. The way he played Day 1 just felt very mafia to me. I'm watching American Idol right now but later tonight I can go back and tell you which posts in particular mean what. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 17:24:22 Ok this will be my last actual list. I think they got repetitive and don't help too much. MAFIA Karterfreak Extol Padzup Darius EnigmaticCam I plan on quoting this list later for its' complete and utter genius accuracy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:25:41 i think you should remove cam and put ivo in there. ivo is defo mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 17:29:16 i wasnt trying to be a smart ass Pobre, i meant that you can really get under people's skin with that, sorry if it came off as smart-ass-like. im on your side. you and MVT are the aggressores that get people to talk, and more stuff can come out that way. @Goose, youre right i'm not worried at all, cause i'm not mafia. if i was mafia and i felt like two of the most influential townies had me figured out, then i would be worried and i would start trying to defend myself more. but im town, and you really dont have me figured out, so why should i worry? if i get lynched, thats just one less townie to help you guys. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/01/09 at 17:30:29 I'm just going to apologize right now since I have played terribly so far. I made a couple solid posts but overall I've been pretty weak. Mainly it's just out of laziness. Nobody listened to me at all last game so I don't really feel that compelled to write a lot and I lost all my confidence when I got nightkilled so quickly for it. That said, I'm going to be a bit more open and being jaded is a bit selfish anyway :) I'd like to ask everyone not to judge me based solely on Day 1. I've found I've been on the defensive from the start which is a complete contrast from my attitude last game. I'm going to be a lot more aggressive from now on as I am clearly not suited for the opposite. Pobre, I don't think I defended Howes as much as I explained why Slowpoke seemed at least somewhat valid. I didn't really buy it but I wouldn't have been surprised if Honko had made a role like that. I wanted to agree with Goose but after yesterday voting for anyone makes you look like mafia and after how hard I had pushed on Goose it would have looked stupid. I'll admit that I didn't see how obvious Howes was being but I believe that I suspected him a bit at the beginning. I was pretty stupid yesterday. I'm sure half of you think I'm mafia now but I am a better player than this :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 17:31:23 @MVT, i think you may have Cam and Darius right, but im not sure about Padzup and Karterfreak yet, theyre both neutral for me right now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:48:54 627F73686B303F30070 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 17:49:24 correction from last post I think they *GET* repetitive and don't help too much. Pobre sorry man I just don't see ivo being mafia and I am sure that he will provide you with a good reason why he isnt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 17:50:19 Town who do we want to kill Padzup or Extol? [smiley=happy.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 17:51:15 7956555541564A74330 wrote:
[/quote] ill do it if it means believing im town :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 17:52:47 Common extol, give me a little more emotion in your post; prove to me your town because right now your sounding like a god fatherless mafia fag. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:00:07 Vote Padzup At least Extol isn't admitting to be a lazy ass. 18292C323D38480 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/01/09 at 18:00:39 54656C6C54616C65000 wrote:
Thanks for giving me a chance. I already explained that I did a poor job yesterday but look at Darius. He was also on your list and while he was around for the first half he was pretty much completely absent. I do not believe that there is outstanding evidence that I am mafia and am somewhat appalled that you are intent on picking me off when there are several people who have been less active and helpful than I have been. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 18:01:32 if i were a godfatherless mafia fag, i would be a little more skeptical and hesitant about what i post wouldnt i? im not worried about giving myself away, because that would only mean telling the townies that im one of them, which is what ive been doing. if i was mafia, youd be able to tell that i was holding back something. you might think that now, but im not holding anything back about which side im on, i assure you. if anyone needs justification for my day one vote, i voted for Goose because i thought he was very annoying with his posts. but i now see that it wasnt the best choice, but that days over, so what can i do about it? The fact that he picked out Howes is a good pick, but now he says im mafia, which means hes got one good call and one bad call. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:02:30 MVT, we are professionals; not victims of the mist. give it 72 hours so we can embarrass their shit intellect more. fucking cock smokers, who the fuck did you think you were dealing with? i'm fucking pobre. learn this shit. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:03:28 Why are you giving me reasons why you are not suspicious extol? Thats just a dead give away; but keep going, I want to hear more from you. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:05:25 4D62616175627E40070 wrote:
Agreed 100% with this. Other than that, the list looks pretty good actually. Nice work MVT. 59444853500B040B3C0 wrote:
That attitude and tone screams mafia to me. Want to try something different? You're on my list, MVT's list and Pobre leans towards agreeing with both of us... why don't you flip the lid, read the message and try again. Sorry. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 18:06:10 Well, I look suspicious, thats pretty damned obvious, but do I even need to repeat my defense for not voting howes? I will for the people who don't feel like reading back to day one. Before howes had roleclaimed slowpoke as a cop, I'd been saying howes wasn't as suspicious as goose because the only thing howes did that was even remotely suspicious was he said he didn't look at his role. It didn't make logical sense for a mafia member to say that, because they would have instantly realized that that would put them in the danger zone and set them up for being killed. I honestly didn't think mafia would make such a stupid mistake like that so early in the game, espescially with a power role such as godfather. It's similar to last game, I didn't think flo was mafia because of the language barrier, which would have made him suspicious even if he WAS town. I can almost guarantee for that game that if he was town, he still would have been killed on day 1 because people were jumping the gun on him because him not knowing english that well made him suspicious. Point I'm trying to make here is this: Not all big suspicions are correct. Sometimes the town player is just oblivious to the mistake they made, and in the end get killed for it. Now, when Howes did roleclaim as slowpoke the cop, I couldn't bring myself to vote for him in any regard at that point, because if he really was our cop (Honko has a cruel sense of humour, so I figured he would make the cop role something that would make us suspicious of our own cop, or just a play on words on the pokemon name), then we would have had a much lower chance of winning the game, as the cop generally be a huge deciding factor in whether town wins the game or not. So, when Ivo proposed we kill etch, who hasn't been providing much input with only 4 posts (yes, I know he's busy pobre), I jumped on it because people were reluctant to kill goose, even with his erratic behavior changes (which suddenly now that he's killed mafia, he's instantly the godly mafia player again, I wonder how that happened /sarcasm), and I didn't want to take ANY chance that we'd kill our cop tonight. Unfortunatly, our cop got killed regardless, which fucking sucks, as we have a lower chance to win the game now. I'm hoping honko was awesome and gave us a second cop, or another scanning role like a detective or something (for those who don't know, detective roles can find out someones actual role, not whether or not they're aligned with town or mafia. Thank you previous mafia games for that.). If he did, this situation is better than I'm thinking it is right now. I will say this however, I think we got really fucking lucky with the lynch yesterday. That could have ended alot worse for us, but the people who took the risk voting for howes took the gamble, and it paid off in the end. Goose is probably town after what he did last night, but considering everyone here likes jumping on suspicions left and right, here's a suspicion of mine for you, albiet having only a small basis of logic. Goose could have possibly planned last night with the other mafia, arguing to the death that howes is mafia, which he would only know 100% if he was mafia himself, which would practically grant him immunity from every town player in the game, as everyone would think he's town after killing a mafia. On paper it makes sense, but that only depends on whether or not the mafia was willing to take that risk. I'll post more as questions are asked and I see more things that are suspicious. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:07:23 Padzup you're basically requesting that we "throw out" your first day. That isn't in any way possible. I bet Howes wishes that he could have backtracked and not posted that " oh I didnt look at my pm" post. Too bad that costed him, and he dwelled on it with every post he made. If you want to do that, go ahead, but don't expect my sympathy. If you want to actually be of use, than try to make some analytical town posts and stop looking for pity about your terrible day 1 play. But really man asking us to throw out your whole day of 26 posts...that isn't going to happen in your wildest dreams. [smiley=flush.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/01/09 at 18:08:08 Yes if I say I'm going to post more I am going to, saying something like that and going back on it would be retarded. I know what slowpoke looks like, that isn't exactly news to me ::) And I said I'm tired of being defensive now because it obviously hasn't worked for me. I am making an effort, if you haven't noticed I did post real content in the latter half of the day. I just said I want to help more than I have been. If you think I've failed to do that by the end of Today then by all means vote for me. But currently I do not see why you are so convinced that I am mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 18:09:12 right now there are only like four people posting here, and the three other than me think im mafia. id like to hear from everyone else before i make more of a defense. well really, i cant make much more of a defense than i have. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:14:18 6E64777160775A637760646E050 wrote:
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER! *pays 36x coins* |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:14:22 Padzup what is your take on Extol? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/01/09 at 18:15:19 62535A5A62575A53360 wrote:
No, I said that my actions yesterday aren't representative of my skill. I am in no way looking for pity, what the fuck would that gain me? If I want to earn people's trust I'll do it through reason. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:17:05 505A494F5E49645D495E5A503B0 wrote:
You must have very little skills in human communication. The monty hall problem only added suspicion to the tone and attitude of his posts, which communicated to me that he was mafia. This is the main reason I voted for him, and the no look thing only cemented it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/01/09 at 18:17:57 07023D3C2130123A3A2630550 wrote:
WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER! *pays 36x coins*[/quote] Karterfreak, assuming the mafia would do that which is unlikely. I seriously doubt they would sacrifice the mafia godfather for the sake of goose. Edit: If this doesn't seem clear i'm referring to mafia sacrificing one of their own for another one to look safe. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:19:31 7872616776614C7561767278130 wrote:
Sarcastic tone is sarcastic. I'm staying on Extol, but you're right there with him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:21:36 6F65767061765B627661656F040 wrote:
But; you're even more in the red not for this reason. You say your main reason for howes being killed off was because he might have been cop? :-? if he was truly town and was a cop mafia would have annihilated him first night ether way so your defense is weak. :-/ Unvote Vote: Karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 18:22:55 Yes, because me saying us losing our cop fucking sucks when I was trying to save our cop since day one (albiet a mafia pretending to be the cop) is definitly sarcasm goose. /sarcasm |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:23:19 sportsguy is right. Especially not the fucking godfather. If anything they would have sacrificed Goose to save Howes. That logic is fucked up really matt |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 18:23:22 I'm becoming more suspicious of Karterfreak, because of what hes been saying. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:24:10 Padzup you wanna answer me about what you think about Extol right now? Do you think he is mafia or town? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/01/09 at 18:27:03 Extol seemed level-headed yesterday but his arguments right now are pretty weak. I am not going to vote for him unless he really slips up since barely anyone has posted and it would be stupid to base opinions for the entire day on the first three hours. I think it's great that you have managed to pull yourself out of suspicion by being the aggressive role. What Matt said about Goose could just as easily have applied to you in that you both seem to be riding on the fact that you got a good lynch last night. All that means is that Howes slipped up, it does not mean every suspicion you have is correct nor does it indicate that you are any better at this game than the rest of us. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:28:43 "Posted by: Extol Posted on: Today at 10:23pm I'm becoming more suspicious of Karterfreak, because of what hes been saying. " loooooooooooooooooooooooooooool In other words "Both sure townies have put suspicion into karterfreak, so I will make this vague statement about a fellow mafia to save my own ass." To be quite honest, I knew at least one person would post that mafia conspiracy theory, about how they would kill Howes to save me. Don't think I don't think about these things... and that's what makes me better than you. I'm always a step ahead. Go ahead, think I'm mafia. It's laughable that you do. You're just cementing your own fate. But if you're really stuck on this detail, why don't we lynch someone who voted for Howes as a part of this conspiracy to see it's validity? Let's try Ivootjes! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/09 at 18:29:41 Hey guys, middle in the night for me, i'm drunk as well and i'm playing poker on several tables at the same time, but there are some point i'd like to make 1. My plan of killing etch wasn't the best ever, but i really didn't feel sure about killing howes either. I gotta be fair that i thought that howes was WAY more suspicous than goose though, that's why i didn't change my vote. I was afraid to lose a confirmed townie. Losing goose looked like an idiot move and i couldn't change my vote because of that. Besides that i knew that we had to kill howes in the next 1 or 2 days anyway so i figured it wouldn't be tbetter to let him live another 1/2 days anyway as he could have found out stuff anyway. Etch didn't seem to care and it's never a bad job to get rid of the lazy townies. Happy i didn't change my vote. 2. Did anyone notice that howes changed his vote to etch to save his own butt? Even while Etch didn't post during day 1 i think that howes wouldnt have taken this risk when etch would have been a mafia member too. It could have been very possible that etch would've been lynched and howes giving away an extra role would have been pretty bad. This is why i'm led to believe that Etch is town now. Not 100%, but just more probably. Still, i like to hear more from Etch. 3. I seriously think that every mafia member is going to claim something from now on, so we should try our best to find out the difference between lies and truth. 4. I made a mistake by saying that we should let most powerroles live another day. Most of the time mafia will make a roleclaim anyway, so we should seriously consider how realistic this roleclaim is. If it doesn't sound real i think we should continue lybching the person we had in sight. Go with the flo and see what happens when they've got some votes. 5. I seriously don't have a clue what pobre is trying to accomplish, you're getting way more confusing every post? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:30:11 Howes didn't slip up at all Padzup. He played it perfectly. If it weren't for me, no one would have found the "no look role" play suspicious by hour 60, and no one would have caught the subtleties in his psots. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:30:31 I have never once said that I am any good at this game Padzup. Also I think I "pulled myself out of suspicion" on day 1 because of NUMEROUS posts using logical reasoning and explanation to prove I am not mafia. I don't know why you are making it sound like I just randomly dodged the suspicions unquestioned. I answered every single question asked towards me and the answers proved that I am town. Therefore I went from having 4 votes to having 0 votes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/09 at 18:31:09 48797070487D70791C0 wrote:
LEGEND POST ;D RESPECT, definately did something for me :D EDIT: pictures don't work :( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 18:31:40 Wow, I defend myself giving reasons as to why I'm not mafia so that you'll know I'm town pobre, thats sorta how I prove I'm town to people <_< MVT: OF COURSE IT'S IMPROBABLE AND NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE, THATS THE POINT! I'm saying that every town player in this game doesn't seem to give a damn about logic, and is just jumping on small things that make a person suspicious. It's also the same reason that I think we got really damned lucky with howes being godfather. And pobre, as for my defense about Howes being cop weak. It kinda made sense. He would have been suspicious if he wasnt killed within a couple days, so town would have lynched him without some proper information. If the actual cop got killed (which happened in this situation, assuming there arent two cops in the game), then we would have killed Howes the next day. Does that not make any damned sense to you? edit: Added a break to make text more legible. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:31:46 Evading my points by calling them confusing. Sober up fag. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:32:35 Reread the fucking post you dipshit. stop focusing on a minor point I made about you and focus all your post on my main point. stop trying to derive while you derive you mafia-cunt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:33:28 162930302B353A2C5F0 wrote:
Agreed on Etch. Combine this with what Pobre said on page 31 about Etch, how Pobre can see Etch's lies from a mile away... I know that Pobre and Etch are very very good friends here. Etch is the only person who understands Pobre's philosophy "the third." These two must have some kind of special bond, so I trust what Pobre says about it. Ivootjes' point makes this only more valid. Etch is town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:33:39 19263F3F243A3523500 wrote:
LEGEND POST ;D RESPECT, definately did something for me :D EDIT: pictures don't work :([/quote] lol ya I was going to post again as probably my best post of any mafia game [smiley=beer.gif] happy to have helped catch the godfather |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:37:22 4071787840757871140 wrote:
[smiley=ninja.gif]Hey Matt, what do you think of my list? [smiley=ninja.gif] edit - for real I would like your honest opinion on it - it is also not in any relevant order |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 18:39:18 Let's try this; Town Goose Pobre Sword Ivootjes syzygy In Hiding KoopZ MVT 8 of 14 remaining Mafia Extol karterfreak 2 of 4 remaining Who are the other 8? Who are their daddy's and what do they do? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 18:39:46 do you (anyone) think there are actually 5 mafia left? that would have made it 13 on 6 to start with, i think that is overpowering the mafia a little... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/01/09 at 18:40:33 Fair enough MVT. I'm off to reread some of the thread to get a better idea since I haven't had the chance until now so if I'm not posting it'll be because I'm still reading. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:41:43 353F2C2A3B2C01382C3B3F355E0 wrote:
And no; I'm not jumping on "little things" you've done, I've got a fucking GROCERY LIST of shit on you kid. :-/ And stop saying our Howes lynch was luck; that just sounds like a mafia player trying to discourage townies. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 18:42:07 @ Goose, why are Tom and Koopz are town? neither of them voted for Howes, and neither have said anything in day 2 yet. is it just based on their day one involvement and posts? cause i agree with that much, i thought they were town throughout the day. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 18:43:04 143B38382C3B27195E0 wrote:
Mind telling me what I didn't respond to in your post, because I looked back at your post, and I dealt with the only point you made. Goose: Etch is obviously town now, Howes was trying to save his ass, and went for the person alot of people were voting for at the end, but as I've explained since day 1, I honestly didn't think Howes was mafia. The thing I find funny here is that I'm providing original contributions to the game instead of just copying what everyone else is saying. A majority of people are just riding on other's contributions and opinions. Those people are apparantly town although they provide next to nothing, I'm apparantly mafia because I provide original thoughts and logic, that other people haven't said or brought up. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/01/09 at 18:45:45 Quote:
Matt who are these people you speak of? And reply to my other post above if you haven't yet seen it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:47:09 I made two points in my post, re-read it again. Unvote I told Extol to show a little more emotion in his post; he didn't, but Karterfreak did; I'm not sure who to vote for at the moment, anyways, we got plenty and plenty of hours to make a decision. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/09 at 18:47:12 Yeah, to be fair i really think that mafia only has 4 members. It's pretty usual to have mafia at about the number of possible mislynches Though it might be possible that honko made it a little bit harder than normal for mafia, as they've done sogood last games. Shit, i still feel drunk |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Ivootjes on 04/01/09 at 18:48:16 I mean as town has done so good of course. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:48:39 Extol is leaning slightly more towards mafia pointing out that Tom and KoopZ are more likely to be mafia because they didn't vote Howes; I personally think they didn't because they're retarded. And he's using that as a reason to take attention off of himself. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 18:50:07 i didnt say Tom and Koopz are likely to be mafia, i asked Goose why he thought they were town, since they basically did the same thing as me the first day. i honestly think they are town, Tom wasnt around for the end of the day so hes got an excuse, and Koopz is new at the game (correct me if im wrong). |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 18:52:52 Nah brah, this isn't negotiation. What I say is the truth you just sit your bitch ass down and listen while you answer my questions. Darius, Inhiding, and Koopz seemed grouped together to me; under 1 faction; "town or mafia don't know yet" but you, you were on the fence the entire time and I pointed this out several times. Speak up Extol my boy; speak and speak because you're going to get lynched if you don't start KISSING THAT ASS. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 18:55:40 5C6D64645C69646D080 wrote:
[smiley=ninja.gif]Hey Matt, what do you think of my list? [smiley=ninja.gif] [/quote] Its a fair list for the most part. I'm obviously suspicious, Padzup is obviously suspicious for voting Etch. Darius has been on my suspicious list for a while now, Extol has mostly been following everyone elses opinions, and not providing much on his own. The only one I dont get his EnigmaticCam. I'd have to go back and read his posts. 4966656571667A44030 wrote:
And no; I'm not jumping on "little things" you've done, I've got a fucking GROCERY LIST of shit on you kid. :-/ And stop saying our Howes lynch was luck; that just sounds like a mafia player trying to discourage townies. :-/ [/quote] Kmacc getting killed by the mafia was obviously luck. No night yet means no power roles on mafia side could have gotten any information on us. And please pobre, tell me all these "little things". I'd love to hear them. I'm not trying to discourage town, but I'm not going to lie either, our lynch on Howes was in all honesty luck. Any one of the people in this game could have done something that stupid, even the cop. To me however mafia in most games tend to avoid making mistakes like that, so it was a fair guess for me thinking Howes was town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 18:58:52 0130393901343930550 wrote:
I'll have to go back through the topic to find the people I found guilty of doing this. I do remember there were at least 4-5 people throughout the topic that only seemed to be repeating things that were already said. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 19:03:36 Im not kissing anything. I was with Koopz and In Hiding for most everything on day one, i wasnt really on the fence about anything, so i guess if im mafia they must be too, and vice versa. and for people who think i havent been contributing, its probably because you havent been reading my posts. ive stated several times how people said things that, being a mafia last game, they would say from a mafais perspective. from mafia experience i can kind of see things that people say that i would have said in the last game. im not powerful in any way i know, but im worth something in this game IMO, think what you want about it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 19:07:45 646E7D7B6A7D50697D6A6E640F0 wrote:
[smiley=ninja.gif]Hey Matt, what do you think of my list? [smiley=ninja.gif] [/quote] Its a fair list for the most part. I'm obviously suspicious, Padzup is obviously suspicious for voting Etch. Darius has been on my suspicious list for a while now, Extol has mostly been following everyone elses opinions, and not providing much on his own. The only one I dont get his EnigmaticCam. I'd have to go back and read his posts. 4966656571667A44030 wrote:
And no; I'm not jumping on "little things" you've done, I've got a fucking GROCERY LIST of shit on you kid. :-/ And stop saying our Howes lynch was luck; that just sounds like a mafia player trying to discourage townies. :-/ [/quote] Kmacc getting killed by the mafia was obviously luck. No night yet means no power roles on mafia side could have gotten any information on us. And please pobre, tell me all these "little things". I'd love to hear them. I'm not trying to discourage town, but I'm not going to lie either, our lynch on Howes was in all honesty luck. Any one of the people in this game could have done something that stupid, even the cop. To me however mafia in most games tend to avoid making mistakes like that, so it was a fair guess for me thinking Howes was town. [/quote] Alright; try to answer these questions without coming off like a retarded mafia player, please? 1.) Why would you jump on the very suspicious Etch bandwagon near the final minutes of Day 1? 2.) Why would you defend someone who was gonna die night 1 if they were town? 3.) Why didn't you vote for howes at all? 4.) How could you ever consider howes as town? Explain your reasoning. Ether way; I'm not going to vote for you today most likely. Vote: Extol |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 19:24:06 3B262A31326966695E0 wrote:
Tom is town because of the bet him and I made. If he were mafia, he would have known that Pobre and I were town, and not accepted my bet. Cooper has just posted sincerely with his heart since 4 days ago... he is a man of few words but you can tell those words are the truth. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 19:25:32 446B68687C6B77490E0 wrote:
If this is so, then Darius is also town. I'll have to add him to my list. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 19:27:21 555F4C4A5B4C61584C5B5F553E0 wrote:
WHEN THE PRESIDENT DOES IT, ITS NOT ILLEGAL WHEN RYAN WHITE IS INVOLVED, IT IS NOT LUCK BEHOLD THE THIRD :D :P :P [smiley=roll.gif] :-X :-* [smiley=evil.gif] [smiley=happy.gif] [smiley=lolk.gif] [smiley=lurk.gif] [smiley=lurk.gif] [smiley=uzi.gif] [smiley=engel017.gif] :exclamation >:( :( ;) [smiley=lurk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 19:41:46 Guess were gonna have to wait till tomorrow for people to start speaking up. Dosn't matter ether way; Mafia is pretty much accounted for. Not gonna call it a GG quite yet though; they killed our Cop. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 20:43:38 7857545440574B75320 wrote:
I already answered 1, 3, and 4. 3 and 4 are synonymous to each other, 1 because I thought Etch had a better chance of being mafia (for not talking) and I really thought that Howes was town. I can't seem to stress that enough. As for 2, I would have tried to defend him regardless if he was going to die at night or not. If Howes had died at night (and was town), then Goose would have been really suspicious for the huge bandwagon he put against Howes yesterday. If Howes didn't die and Goose died over night, then Howes would have been suspicious and killed. Either way a mafia would most likely end up being killed. I just thought the safer route after the role claim was to keep Howes around, in case the role claim was actually true. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 20:50:24 If that is your reasoning then you are ether 1 of two things. 1.) A bad Mafia player. 2.) A very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very bad town player. In ether case it wouldn't make a difference if you are gone or not. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 20:52:17 All the reasoning in the last paragraph there is pretty weak matt and you KNOW it. I can sense the weakness and displeasure you have in arguing the side you know is a lie. You don't sell it well, and I can feel that you are mafia. Fess up now or forever hold your peace. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 20:52:49 Coming from the guy who's followed everyone elses votes throughout the entire game? You have no right calling me a bad town player, espescially considering this is your first mafia game. And how is my reasoning bad when it leads to a mafia player being killed no matter what? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:00:00 Unvote Vote: karterfreak Your logic is too incorrect for such a smart guy. You understood the possibility of Howes and I being a mafia conspiracy, alas there is no way someone so intelligent and conniving can honestly believe that Etch was more likely mafia than Howes AND that Goose getting lynched yesterday, Kmacc dying last night and Howes being an insta lynch today is just as good of a scenario as what actually happened. Not to mention in one of these defenses you justify voting Etch and the other one you justify voting Goose. Basically what I'm getting at is that it's clear you are lying about the reasons you voted for me and Etch, because it's inconsistent, you're smarter than that, and the tone you use in your defense is much weaker than the tone you use in things you truly believe in. You are mafia. I believe your game is done. edit- Addition, no deleted content; edit2- reorganization, no del'd content |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 21:07:05 I never said it was a better scenario, I said it was a safer scenario, stop manipulating my words. And yes, you're right, I did justify voting for both you and Etch. You because you're still erratic as hell in your behaviour. You went from "I'm awesome at mafia" to "I'm awesome at mafia, do as I say" to "I'm bad at mafia" to "I'm bad at mafia, stop thinking I'm good at mafia" to your current "I'm god at mafia, bow before my opinion". Try and at least be somewhat consistent with your feelings for that kind of stuff. I justified voting for Etch because he's barely posted, and we need useful townies, which Etch hasn't been yet. The real mafia are probably just watching us argue and laughing their ass off at this. You're a fool for not realizing this. edit - Added justification for Etch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:16:07 You've never once denied being part of the mafia or been strong in your statements about them. Just look. "The real mafia are probably just watching us argue and laughing their ass off at this. You're a fool for not realizing this." a) Who the fuck are "the real mafia" and are they different from "the fake mafia?" b) The mafia could be 3 other guys who are on your side, and you could be right... they could be laughing at this argument. c) You're a bad liar and you haven't said a single strong truth yet this game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Kmacc on 04/01/09 at 21:19:13 Wow. I'm always needledick and live until the end. This game I get a good role and die night one. :-/ I'm just going to assume mafia either took a stab in the dark, or maybe thought I was a possible threat and got lucky? I don't know. Mafia isn't as obvious as it was last game, but it should be very easy for you guys to narrow at least 8-10 of the remaining people left as town with the information so far, and work from there. Good luck town, don't be stupid! [smiley=beer.gif] Edit: I didn't even get my scan info lol. Robin, I thought all actions happened at the same time and therefore even though I'm dead I get my info. :-* |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:19:16 7A70636574634E776374707A110 wrote:
Event 1: Goose lynched, Kmacc dead, Howes lynched. Event 2: Howes lynched, Kmacc dead, possibility of another mafia lynched. Event 2 seems a fuckload better than Event 1 for the town... so much for endorsing that one! edit reason - clarification and formatting. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 21:21:47 Uh, are you an idiot or something? Real mafia are the people who are actually mafia in the game. You keep saying things as if I'm lying. I'm not lying, and what I've said this entire game (argument in defense of howes, etc.) has all been my own opinion. I've justified everything I've said to the best of my ability, just like last game. I don't know how many times I have to say it until you get it through your thick skull. I'm TOWN. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:24:22 262C3F39283F122B3F282C264D0 wrote:
Why are you obviously suspicious? What kind of dumb thing is this to say? You received about 1 vote before you said this, yet you're obviously suspicious... why would you say that? Guilty conscience? Inability to lie strongly? I think so! 262C3F39283F122B3F282C264D0 wrote:
Again, weak language and wtf... Howes move to not look at his role is a GOOD move imo. Yes, it increases odds of being mafia slightly, but if it weren't for me looking at it carefully, we would have moved on and suspected someone else. You're just saying the easy thing that most people can agree on to fit in with the town, and unfortunately for you, I'm here to pick your different shade of blue out of the crowd. Want me to keep going? I haven't this page yet :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 21:26:06 636659584554765E5E4254310 wrote:
Event 1: Goose lynched, Kmacc dead, Howes lynched. Event 2: Howes lynched, Kmacc dead, possibility of another mafia lynched. Event 2 seems a fuckload better than Event 1 for the town... so much for endorsing that one! [/quote] Its soooooo much easier to say that Event 2 is 'a fuckload better' than Event 1 after Event 2 turned out to be the better choice. You could have just as easily been mafia and lynched , Kmacc could have died, and we would have the possibility of lynching another mafia, which (before we knew the results). Made both scenarios have the same probability. You're a statistics guy, so you should realize that. Stop trying to make it look like your choice was obviously better. I factored in the possible cop role, and Event 1 had a better chance of not killing a town power role both statistically and in my personal opinion. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:31:12 6963707667705D6470676369020 wrote:
Oh yeah? Not knowing Howes was mafia is original? Because 8+ people agreed with you there come the end of Day 1. Really? Saying that "the no role look" is a bad move is original? I thought I heard that by at least 5 others. Again, the original thoughts you've spoken are weak, writ with a heavy heart and have an unforeboding aura to them. They reek of falseness. I can smell you getting off the elevator. You're like a little kid who is forced to lie but can't do it convincingly, or the 14 year old girl caught with booze at the high school in the principals office. Time to either step out of the headlights or get run over. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:32:33 0903101607103D0410070309620 wrote:
Well now you've said it once. Let's start keeping track. How many times can you say it before you get lynched? :)! edit - adding the fact that I am going to close my laptop and try to get some sleep now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 21:34:49 56536C6D7061436B6B7761040 wrote:
Or you know, its obvious I'm suspicious because of me not voting for Howes, and defending him. Even an idiot could realize I'm suspicious after that, so I posted my defense in advance. 56536C6D7061436B6B7761040 wrote:
You answered your own question for why it was a stupid move. edit - Fixed quote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/01/09 at 21:36:25 Ok, I just got back and will be making my comments as soon as I can. I'm sorry I'm so absent, it's been a bad week for me. I'm feeling better, but I have to go to bed early tonight, as I've gotta get up early tomorrow morning for an all-day meeting at work. I will be unable to make any comments for at least the next 24 hours. I remained neutral for the most part the first day, and I had good reasons I think. But no more! There are a few that are highly suspicious to me right now, thanks to the last hour before day 1 closed, and the final results of day 1. I just ask that you please be patient with me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:37:22 6862717766715C6571666268030 wrote:
I guess I'll answer this too so you wont make a mountain out of a molehill about me "avoiding" it. You're right. If I were mafia then Event 1 could have been even better. Mafia kill, town kill not necessarily power and then another chance at a mafia kill. But what we've got isn't so bad anyways. Sorry I'm not mafia and didn't get lynched on Day 1... I can't be *that* good at mafia to help the town when I'm mafia. I'm not God. Just the next best thing. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/01/09 at 21:39:07 242E3D3B2A3D10293D2A2E244F0 wrote:
You answered your own question for why it was a stupid move. edit - Fixed quote [/quote] So it was a bad move because it increased odds. How many people realized this? Oh... just one? What's his name? Oh.. it's Goose? oh yeah. Sorry to parade on your rainy day. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 21:40:20 why would you defend howes because of his role claim even though his death would have been certain afterwords? Who in their right mind would claim to have a cop role? Why would you ever possibly consider it as a possibility? You just aren't convincing anyone and your being suspicious, in what seems to be on purpose karterfreak! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 21:40:30 Goose, I see why Booth hates you now. You're an arrogant son of a bitch |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 21:45:11 1F30333327302C12550 wrote:
At the off chance that if he actually was cop, a roleblocker would have blocked him for the night. The odds were better for Event 1 than Event 2 (see: Goose's event argument). I'd consider it a possibility because as I've already said, he didn't have much of a choice but to roleclaim, even if the roleclaim was false. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/01/09 at 21:48:58 OK. I understand there is hell of a lot to say, but before that, I must make some allegations based on my tedious reading. POBRE IS DEFINITELY TOWN. GOOSE IS DEFINITELY TOWN. MATT IS DEFINITELY MAFIA. MVT IS DEFINITELY TOWN. I am 100% certain on these. Some may say that this looks like mafia, cause mafia know who's town and who's not, but what kind of idiot mafia would do that, seriously? It's hard for me to elaborate much more here, so I'm going to go back and pick up some quotes. These four, I'm sure of though. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/01/09 at 21:52:45 Glad to have you back Lenny :) maybe youll give us some new insight on things, im getting tired of the back and forth between Matt and Goose.. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/01/09 at 22:01:45 Oh also, we have to ask ourselves, who started the Etch bandwagon? And merely under the grounds that he hasn't posted much? I know this is mafia like behaviour, but in my experience as mafia, people either over post, or post just enough so that they are noticed. Etch is definitely not posting much, but he's a busy guy. I need to go over it, after Kmacc died, I am fairly certain I remember some conflict involving him so I'm going to check it. In any case, I am CERTAIN that Matt is mafia. I had the vibe coming from him even yesterday, but unfortunately I couldn't post. Vote: karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/01/09 at 22:02:28 Well, all I can say is you're being idiots. I'm actually trying to defend myself here, I've said everything I can possibly say, I've explained it via probability and my personal opinion, but it just seems to be going in one ear and out the other. Anyways, now that you're back Lenny, it'd be nice to hear some input from you. (other than X and X is mafia for (insert reason here)). You've only got two posts, so why shouldn't I be suspicious of you? And yes, I know you say I'm 'definitely' mafia, but I still want to hear some things from you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by KoopZ on 04/01/09 at 22:10:04 goose, you still suck at this game. you're only "good" at this game in hindsight. you need to step back from your own arrogance and really realize that our lynch of the godfather was purely luck. once howes did slip up, it was obvious he was a mafia player, but you're riding on the fact that we got the godfather cuz of you. its over now, lets move on. jeff, you still suck at this game. why dont you back off and let other people more intelligent than you and with more experience at the game than you work things out? fuck, the last couple of pages have just pissed me off to no end with jeff and goose's retardedly arrogant and annoying posts. getting the godfather on day 1 was completely and totally luck, whether you choose to admit it or not. getting our cop killed was completely and totally luck on the mafia's part. after howes' poor defenses yesterday, the only things i was sure of was that a mafia player was going to be lynched, and that a town player was going to die during the nite. either way, both sides had an important role killed, so imo, both sides are still somewhat equal. the only good thing about this is now we have voting patterns and posting habits to work off of. i'll have to analyze more tomorrow after i wake up and i've calmed down a bit. i have to go to bed, i'll post more in approx 11 hours. good nite. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 22:10:33 I have this gut feeling that Matt Ellis isn't mafia and extol is. >_> just a gut feeling. >_> |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/01/09 at 22:40:56 363C2F29382F023B2F383C365D0 wrote:
It's this post that makes me VERY suspicious of Matt. At least the most suspicious one from today. ESPECIALLY the bolded parts. Mafia have a very big tendency to post in such a manner. I know this sounds weak and baseless, but honestly, it actually happens quite a lot. I cbf to go dig up quotes, but previous mafia have def. done this, and it's hard to notice. The 'oh crap we lost a good role' charade is the main giveaway factor here. It's another mafia style that I know well. I'm going to post once more, because I was already suspicious of Matt after reading Day 1. This argument sounds weak here, but with experience, people will understand. PLEASE DO NOT JUDGE THIS POST UNTIL I HAVE POSTED AGAIN, I NEED TO GET MORE INFO AND PROVE MYSELF. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/01/09 at 23:04:27 Right now, I am CERTAIN of Matt, and suspicious of Extol and Sportsguy. A mystery figure for me is Sword, who is quite hard to judge based on his posts. Same with Ivo. Fababu is most likely town, because of matt saying: 575D4E48594E635A4E595D573C0 wrote:
Also, Well, right now my vote stays on Goose. The only thing Howes has done to even warrant being suspicious is his post saying he didn't check his role PM yet. Yes, its suspicious, and at the same time, I don't see a mafia (especially someone who isn't an idiot like Howes) overlooking how suspicious that kind of post would make him look. If someone can convince me otherwise, I'll consider changing my vote to howes. This quote of karterfreak's is quite suspicious to me, in all ways. I don't think there's much to explain about this. He also EXTENSIVELY defended Howes. It was as if he was hellbent on protecting him. I know this is what happened last game as well and he wasn't mafia, but this is different, in the extent he went to to defend him. 0802111706113C0511060208630 wrote:
It would be stupid for him to claim cop if he wasn't a cop. The real cop would scan him, know he was mafia, and he'd be dead. Seems like a stupid thing to do if he wasn't a cop.[/quote] FAIL. EPIC FAIL. THIS IS A GIVEAWAY. This is a tactic. This may be just mafia inexperience, but anyone in their right mind knows for a fact that there is no way to know who is telling the truth in such a case. A weak defense, which seems to be him going to extremes to defend Howes. No-one in their right mind would defend someone to such a degree ON DAY 1 unless they knew their role, which can only mean mafia. Also, HOWES WAS THE GODFATHER AND MATT KNEW THIS. Matt knows that if the cop scanned Howes he would have ended up with an inno, so he was hoping to get at least one more person on his side, I'm sure. Now, everyone, I want you to think about this. LET'S JUST SAY. That Matt was mafia. Would my claims of people being mafia or town be legit? This is going to be risky, but I am revealing my role, in god hope that there is a bg or doc. If anyone needs fucking proof that Matt is mafia, so be it. I want this day over quickly. If pobes is a role that lets him know what all roles are, he knows I'm telling the truth. Call me an idiot for this, but whatever. afaik Pobre claimed Voltorb but then denied it later, correct me if I'm wrong? I AM GROWLITHE, THE FUCKING TRACKER. I TRACKED MATT LAST NIGHT. MATT HAS VISITED KMACC. IF WE LYNCH MATT AND HE IS MAFIA, YOU HAVE MY WORD ON THIS SHIT. Doc/bg on me tonight please :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Etch on 04/01/09 at 23:11:00 Where do I start? lmao About time you fucking showed up Lenny. If you back stab the town kiss your pow points on mkds good bye. [smiley=evil.gif] It's been said earlier, but with the highest ranked mafia guy dying this tells us a lot about voting patterns the day before. There was a point where mafia could have killed off Goose I think but didn't, instead the votes went back and forth some more before people settled on Howes. I want to think mafia isn't so stupid that they would sacrifice him to save their own ass. Looking back at what Howes said, that shit got drawn into a long argument with bullshit explanations which helped put the town's target onto him. It's good we got some people to talk earlier because while it is not important for one town member to do something, it is important for the few mafia players to be active frequently. If they don't participate, town easily wins with no night kills. It's two main things, are the mafia just sitting back watching shit happen or trying to quietly blend in? Shooting your mouth off is the worst thing to do but Howes didn't mind, lol. Is Karterfreak following suit? Hard to predict irrational things. Anyone can look guilty if he is backed into a corner. I can't believe mafia would take so many stupid risks which helps prove who is town here in a way. Unless someone comes off super suspicious, we should ask around and see who is best to lynch. I liken Tom to Jonny Fairplay, you can break promises right? ;D With the first day, there wasn't much I could say. I have been following along, and there certainly are a lot of interesting things now. Where the fuck are mafia hiding. [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/01/09 at 23:17:52 If I'm right etch I demand double pow points 8-) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/01/09 at 23:25:59 Proof that Ivo is town: 767C6F69786F427B6F787C761D0 wrote:
Common tactic I've seen where mafia chuck around votes and once an adequate response is given, the vote is taken off. Etch is also town based on what I can see. I HAVE TO REMIND YOU GUYS THAT I AM SAYING ALL THIS UNDER THE 100% ASSUMPTION THAT MATT IS MAFIA USING MY ROLE. IF WE LYNCH MATT, WE WILL HAVE QUITE A BIT TO WORK WITH IF HE IS MAFIA, BECAUSE WE CAN ANALYSE HIS POSTS AND SEE WHO HE WAS ATTACKING, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M DOING RIGHT NOW. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/01/09 at 23:30:54 Read Reply #518. Biiiiiiiiig mistake by Matt. I'm sure he was attempting to make himself look like town with a well structured analytical post, but now that I/we have him as mafia, this will help give us a HUGE insight into who the mafia. My proposal for action: Lynch Matt, analyse this post and controversy surrounding Matt and Howes, then continue as per normal. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/01/09 at 23:32:49 Lenny, my brother, you are far greater than I could ever hope to imagine; truly my offspring indeed. [smiley=evil.gif] Unvote Vote: Karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Honko on 04/01/09 at 23:40:59 [3] karterfreak - (Pobre), Goose, Lenny, Pobre [1] Etch - Sportsguy [1] EnigmaticCam - Extol [1] Padzup - MVT [0] Extol - (Goose), (Pobre), (Pobre) [0] Ivootjes - (Pobre) With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 9 votes, or in 63 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Syzygy on 04/01/09 at 23:44:33 Well 1st off, I am awesome for leaving my vote on Howes. Anyone who thinks I'm mafia is either a) retarded b) mafia I think it's safe to say that me and MVT are definitely town. Pobre and Goose are likely town as well. @ Pobre - (from page 31) I didn't vote for Howes when the lynch was certain, I voted for him about 3 hours before his lynch because I went to sleep. I was the 2nd vote of the 5 that he ended with. My next suspicion was Matt, and it seems he's getting a lot of attention which is nice as I don't have to do any convincing. Props to Lenny for making an effort after his absence. Vote: Karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by In Hiding on 04/02/09 at 01:45:53 for what its worth matt, i dont think you're mafia but i'm intregued to see what happens when we vote off a town based on goose and pobres bandwagon voting. nah fuck it.. i'm not going to vote for him yet. vote pobre why? cause him or goose is mafia, he's waffling too much and disrupting the flow which suits the mafia more than town? # Questions: To Karterfreak: Out of padzup and sword who do you think is mafia? Sword: Out of 'cam and padzup who do you think is mafia? Darius: You've been quiet recently, do you think MVT is mafia and why? And what do you take into consideration when voting? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Lenny on 04/02/09 at 02:29:35 Didn't you read my posts Tom? MATT IS DEFINITELY MAFIA, VOTE MATT EVERYBODY. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by In Hiding on 04/02/09 at 02:33:29 ok, I'll take your word for it. Vote Karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/02/09 at 02:38:00 Unvote Vote Karterfreak I think his defense is plausible, but very unlikely. My thinking here is we kill karterfreak and if is mafia all is good. If he is town we kill lenny. There is no doubt that either karterfreak or lenny is mafia and i'm 99% sure it is karterfreak. I won't be back for a little while because i have a SOC test. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by In Hiding on 04/02/09 at 02:40:46 I still want answers to my questions. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/09 at 03:01:08 If there are people who can switch around night actions they should speak up now. Matt, what where you doing at kmacc's house? Those are some solid points Lenny, but if you're wrong we'll lynch you ;) I'll make my vote later |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by In Hiding on 04/02/09 at 03:11:09 pobre, you're mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/02/09 at 03:28:59 Ivo, isn't it obvious that matt was killing kmacc at his house. He wasn't protecting him and it's doubtful he was roleblocked or scanning him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/09 at 03:31:54 At least let him try :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Darius on 04/02/09 at 03:31:57 Pobre: Your reasoning was terrible when I pointed it out. I think you'd made a post saying why you suspected people including what was basically you saying you just didn't trust Kmacc based on your general knowledge of him and saying Tom was likely to be mafia because he hadn't been in the other games, which I've already said makes no sense a number of times. I didn't vote for Howes because Fababu seemed more suspicious to me and I thought people were making too much of the whole PM thing. I wasn't online for the Howes roleclaim and the Howes/Goose/Fababu chaos at the end of the day so I didn't get to make a decision based on that evidence. Voting for Howes 6 times just means you were changing your mind a lot, it doesn't make you a better mafia hunter. I don't think you've helped town much at all with your erratic play and you actually just followed Goose with most of your votes yesterday. Tom: I think MVT is definitely town. He was dead set on voting for Howes, far too much so for it to be a mafia ploy to make him look innocent. Even if it were a ploy, I highly doubt the mafia would have chosen the godfather as the target to do it on. I think his aggressive style can make him come across as mafia but I think he's played this game very townie and the Howes lynch makes him look even more town. When I'm choosing who to vote for, I look for things like non-committal posts, defending confirmed mafia members, holes in logic, avoidance of particular topics and voting patterns. When I re-read Day 1 at the start of Day 2 in the last game it was clear that she had mostly been quiet, non-committal, had tried to deflect attention from Flo's mafia power role and had ended up voting for Honko with Clark. I thought Matt was mafia even before Lenny's tracker information was revealed. First of all, he spent a lot of time on Day 1 talking about no lynching - a safe way to make sure he posted a lot without saying anything about any of the other players. When Howes got more and more pressure on him, Matt was trying to help him out, posting things like Slowpoke being a psychic pokemon so it would make sense for an investigator. Then right at the end of the day, when it looked like Ivo might have worked up enough support for an Etch lynch, Matt switched his vote onto Etch along with Tyler and Howes. Today, Matt's 'our cop got killed regardless, which fucking sucks' is exactly the same kind of post that the mafia were making in the morning last time that just comes across as staged. Calling Goose 'an arrogant son of a bitch' reeks to me of mafia desperation. I think Lenny's claim and information is legitimate because it's going to lead to a lynching tomorrow if it's not. It's possible that Matt has a town role but I think in light of the massive case against him it's very, very unlikely. If Matt's mafia then Tyler, Sword and Ivo look even more suspect for being involved with that Etch bandwagon plan at the end of the day. I'm not suspicious about Extol for voting Goose over Howes because I also find Goose annoying and I didn't like his obsession with probability. I am suspicious of him for first calling Matt 'neutral' and then saying 'I'm becoming more suspicious of Karterfreak, because of what hes been saying.' Goose is right about this: it's another one of those very safe posts that doesn't really say anything and just serves to protect Extol if Matt turns out to be mafia. In conclusion: Vote: Karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/09 at 03:41:47 sooo, we're gonna end the day early into day 3? Or are there still things we need to talk about? I'd like to hear some more from matt, what he thinks about everyone, but i think that he's going to pretend dead already. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/02/09 at 03:46:18 Unvote Vote Karterfreak I am off to school. Lenny you are a fucking God man! You solidified this completely for me! Congratz another mafia will be dead by days end. Maybe you should track enigmatic cam at night, he seems too quiet for his own good and never even votes for anyone in an effort to completely dodge suspicion. Darius' post right there makes me think he is town for sure. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by In Hiding on 04/02/09 at 03:53:06 I agree with ^ (MvT's post). |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Darius on 04/02/09 at 03:58:59 To anyone who hasn't voted for Matt: he's one away from the lynch. We still haven't heard from some people at all on this and I haven't forgotten about Fababu, who hasn't posted at all yet - that roleclaim was a relatively safe one and he voted Goose over Howes too. Short days are generally bad for the town and I don't think we should go through with the lynch at least until we've had time to discuss potential night strategy. We don't want to make bad decisions at night because we haven't heard enough from people during the day. I'm confident that Matt is mafia but I don't want to rush this and end up paying for it later on. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Ivootjes on 04/02/09 at 04:39:34 Somebody should unvote as matt can end the day himself now. Unless nobody cares that we head into night 2 so soon. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/02/09 at 04:45:56 Unvote He's mafia, but per the request of ivo, i'll unvote. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Darius on 04/02/09 at 04:58:36 I'm going to a seminar for a couple of hours now and I don't want the lynch to go through until we've heard some more, so: unvote My vote will almost certainly be going back on Matt later. Questions for a few people: Tom: Why are you so convinced Pobre is mafia? Is this just another hunch? Sword: You've said things are clearer for you now, what do you think of Fababu and Goose? Cam: You haven't committed to much at all, do you think Matt is mafia? Who else is mafia with him? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by In Hiding on 04/02/09 at 05:12:00 its a hunch but also got some things on him. I dont want to share them pubicly yet. errr, why are people taking their votes off matt? surely we end the day and get going asap! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Honko on 04/02/09 at 06:35:54 [6] karterfreak - (Pobre), Goose, Lenny, Pobre, Syzygy, In Hiding, (Sportsguy), (Darius), MVT [1] EnigmaticCam - Extol [0] Padzup - (MVT) [0] Etch - (Sportsguy) [0] Extol - (Goose), (Pobre), (Pobre) [0] Ivootjes - (Pobre) With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 9 votes, or in 56.5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 07:09:20 soooooooooo Lenny and Goose both strongly point out flaws with Matt and are followed by seemingly every other townie, yet Cooper still denies my excellence in this game. Only a fellow townie would stand up and calm the super cocky guy down anyways. You know, that guy who is going to get in a fight in the bar, only his fellow friends can calm him down, so I'm going to say Cooper is with us, just hasn't voted Matt yet due to whatever Ivo said, but he thought of this on his own. Alright yeah. Well I was going to come in here and make another cocky post like "who's next?" but Cooper ruined that sort of vibe. Pobre, it's possible that Extol is mafia as well, in fact, I still think he is, though Matt's evidence seems overwhelming. Oh yeah, and Ivo's suggestion to wait is a good play on his part because; a) it makes him not look like mafia b) it creates a small chance that we don't lynch karerfreak, a fellow mafia. Therefore Ivo is also mafia with Extol. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Fababu on 04/02/09 at 07:21:38 69686E6176050 wrote:
Also, Well, right now my vote stays on Goose. The only thing Howes has done to even warrant being suspicious is his post saying he didn't check his role PM yet. Yes, its suspicious, and at the same time, I don't see a mafia (especially someone who isn't an idiot like Howes) overlooking how suspicious that kind of post would make him look. If someone can convince me otherwise, I'll consider changing my vote to howes. This quote of karterfreak's is quite suspicious to me, in all ways. I don't think there's much to explain about this. He also EXTENSIVELY defended Howes. It was as if he was hellbent on protecting him. I know this is what happened last game as well and he wasn't mafia, but this is different, in the extent he went to to defend him. 0802111706113C0511060208630 wrote:
It would be stupid for him to claim cop if he wasn't a cop. The real cop would scan him, know he was mafia, and he'd be dead. Seems like a stupid thing to do if he wasn't a cop.[/quote] FAIL. EPIC FAIL. THIS IS A GIVEAWAY. This is a tactic. This may be just mafia inexperience, but anyone in their right mind knows for a fact that there is no way to know who is telling the truth in such a case. A weak defense, which seems to be him going to extremes to defend Howes. No-one in their right mind would defend someone to such a degree ON DAY 1 unless they knew their role, which can only mean mafia. Also, HOWES WAS THE GODFATHER AND MATT KNEW THIS. Matt knows that if the cop scanned Howes he would have ended up with an inno, so he was hoping to get at least one more person on his side, I'm sure. Now, everyone, I want you to think about this. LET'S JUST SAY. That Matt was mafia. Would my claims of people being mafia or town be legit? This is going to be risky, but I am revealing my role, in god hope that there is a bg or doc. If anyone needs fucking proof that Matt is mafia, so be it. I want this day over quickly. If pobes is a role that lets him know what all roles are, he knows I'm telling the truth. Call me an idiot for this, but whatever. afaik Pobre claimed Voltorb but then denied it later, correct me if I'm wrong? I AM GROWLITHE, THE FUCKING TRACKER. I TRACKED MATT LAST NIGHT. MATT HAS VISITED KMACC. IF WE LYNCH MATT AND HE IS MAFIA, YOU HAVE MY WORD ON THIS SHIT. Doc/bg on me tonight please :-/[/quote] Ok, I'll take your words into consideration. You've made some strong posts since you have returned that makes me almost believe your words. If I put my vote in Matt now, he will be with 7; only 2 away from the death; so as some persons have said before me, I'll prefer to make the day a bit longer. Just for see the evolution in the posts of people. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/02/09 at 07:21:48 unvote i still think EnigmaticCam is suspicious but hes obviously not going anywhere today. ill vote for Matt today cause he is about 99.999999% mafia (the .0000001 being if Lenny is lying, which is highly unlikely). i dont want to vote for Matt right now cause i think we should take some more time to talk about things other than Matt being mafia, cause he definitely is, before we end the day. first off, someone (Fababu) should probably protect Lenny tonight, as hes one of the only self-claimed power roles for us, and his role is important. im lead to believe that there may be two bodyguard roles in this game, if Fababu told the truth with his claim. He said he is Hitmonchan, which leads me to think there is probably a Hitmonlee as well, which would be a good thing. anyone else think this? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/02/09 at 07:36:00 nevermind, Matt's only got 6 votes now, one more wont end the day vote: Karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Darius on 04/02/09 at 08:26:29 Goose, Cooper said he would be posting in approximately 11 hours about 10 hours ago. I expect to see something from him in the next hour or two about the Matt lynch. If I don't hear anything today then I'm going to start thinking something's up, but right now I agree that Cooper is town. Ivo, I'm curious about something you said: that Matt is going to 'pretend dead already'. Do you mean that he's not going to post at all? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Fababu on 04/02/09 at 08:59:53 726F63787B202F20170 wrote:
Mmmm.... I don't think so. I can't imagine which role could have Hitmonlee, one bodyguard seems enough to me. BTW, I find weird what you've done in your last 2 posts. First you say you won't vote for Matt cause you want to make the day longer, and then you vote for him 15 minutes later. Your vote won't change anything at this moment, why have you done it? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Darius on 04/02/09 at 09:02:56 Fababu, you haven't said what you actually think of Matt yourself at this point apart from saying that you 'almost believe' Lenny. What do you think of the case against Matt? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/02/09 at 09:34:24 basically cause of what you said, Fababu, my vote wont change anything right now, so i can vote for Matt. i started writing that when Matt had 8 votes on him so i didnt want to end the day early so i didnt vote. then after i posted that i saw he only had 6 on him, so i thought, eh, i can take a chance. so i voted for him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 09:44:44 Lol Fababu, Extols reasoning for not voting matt and then revoting is a fair one... he didn't want the day to end, realized matt lost some votes and then re-voted... not a big deal and to find this suspicious means you're either mafia or a really bad town player. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by KoopZ on 04/02/09 at 09:55:46 ok. rant comes up again. goose, thank you for calming down. i really appreciate it simply for the fact that without your bragging and pobre's retarded posts about people being his offspring and shit, things are alot easier to read and analyze. lenny, the only flaw i find in your reasoning with matt being mafia is that matt did NOT start the etch bandwagon. iirc, it was tyler that started with a whole bunch of random one line posts saying etch this and etch that, and we should lynch etch instead. please dont tell me i'm the only one that noticed that. ivo was quick to join up, and then matt shortly after. so if anything, i agree with laying off of etch for now so we dont end the day quickly.... but only so that we can grill ivootjes and tyler some more about why they wanted etch lynched. and to ivo and tyler: gimme a reason other than "he wasnt talking, so lets lynch the inactive players, etch even said that himself". thats already been stated, and those were your main reasons when going for the etch lynch. anything else? like wanting to protect your mafia father, howes? i've been suspicious of tyler from the start, and even though he did manage to explain himself to me somewhat better earlier on in day 1, that suspicion has never left me. combine that with one line posts about wanting to lynch etch when clearly people are voting for howes/goose/fababu (at the time, it was all three of them getting votes), and you've got a picture of someone who has pretty much opened up with "i'm mafia, and i wanna protect myself, so lynch this random townie who hasnt said anything". on the other hand, when etch finally did post, this line really stuck out to me: 752F74767C747E2A2A1F0 wrote:
this is exactly the kinda line that lenny and extol were talkin about when they mentioned things that mafia say to stay under the radar and continue to blend in and act like town. add to that the fact that etch made no attempt to defend himself or claim himself as town after nearly being lynched, and in my book that seems like a mafia player who barely got off the hook and is playing it cool. then again, knowing etch, he really just doesnt give a fuck and thats coming thru in his posts. my main focus of this post though is that tyler and ivootjes should really be questioned alot more, cuz it was those two that really started to try and divert attention away from howes near the end of day 1, and i personally wanna know why. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 10:07:09 Who is Tyler? And if anything I've been bragging more today than yesterday. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by KoopZ on 04/02/09 at 10:08:26 407F66667D636C7A090 wrote:
this sounds like an eager mafia player to me. why would anyone wanna end the day early unless they know a town player's going to be lynched? speak up ivo. edit in response to goose's question: tyler = sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Fababu on 04/02/09 at 10:08:29 I think he's Sportsguy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Fababu on 04/02/09 at 10:23:15 080D32332E3F1D3535293F5A0 wrote:
I just said it seems weird to me. He answers me. That's all. I can doubt of a person and ask if I want to listen something. And please, if you wanna tell me that I'm a bad town player, say it; but stop saying that I'm mafia, because I'm not, and you could only make more conffusion in the rest of the players. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Darius on 04/02/09 at 10:35:15 Cooper: I agree that both Ivo and Tyler are suspect for the Etch plan but I think it was Ivo who started the Etch idea. Here's the situation as I see it. This is about an hour before the deadline: 0F2C332E282F3B29256C6C6D5C0 wrote:
This is at almost exactly the same time as: 605F46465D434C5A290 wrote:
Ivo pushes the Etch idea in a couple more posts but also can't seem to decide between Fababu and Howes, stating that people should unvote Goose, then Tyler says this about half an hour before the deadline: 0E2D322F292E3A28246D6D6C5D0 wrote:
Both Padzup and MVT disagree with lynching Etch while Pobre apparently pretends to be for the Etch plan and then switches back to Howes. Sword says he would vote for Etch or no-lynch ten minutes before the deadline, but admits that isn't going to happen. Then we get another push from Ivo: 1B243D3D26383721520 wrote:
This is at the same time that Tyler asks if we really want to risk losing the cop. Finally, we get this post only 5 minutes from the deadline which brings about a wave of people supporting the Etch lynch: 4E716868736D6274070 wrote:
Tyler immediately backs Ivo up on this, then Padzup and MVT again disagree with the idea before Howes and Matt support it. Ivo is doing virtual vote counts at this point and Padzup bizarrely goes back on himself and says he will vote for Etch if it's necessary. Sword also comes in and says he might but seems unsure about the idea. Tyler, Howes and Matt then all vote for Etch right at the death whilst Ivo says he thinks they've got enough for a tie but doesn't actually vote himself. At the same time, MVT once again says that it is a stupid idea. In short, Ivo mentions the Etch lynch quite a lot at the same time as changing his mind between Howes and Fababu. Tyler helps things along with a few posts and a vote. For most of this, Matt is supporting Howes' roleclaim, cautioning people against getting rid of a potential cop and disagreeing with Goose until he comes on Etch right at the end. Sword is more unsure about the idea and doesn't place his vote on Etch in the end. MVT is adamant that an Etch lynch is stupid and Padzup seems to agree with MVT until right at the very end where he lends some minor support. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/02/09 at 10:35:18 Quote:
Koopz, if i wanted to save howes, i would have voted for goose. Doing that would have had a much bigger impact on the outcome than voting for etch. What's wrong with wanting to get etch to post more? There has been like 900 posts and he has 5 of them. Lenny just got here and he has twice as many as etch. Most of the games i have been, i have been criticized for not posting enough. So this time i'm going to do the criticizing. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 11:22:02 092E3E3A2E3D234F0 wrote:
I just said it seems weird to me. He answers me. That's all. I can doubt of a person and ask if I want to listen something. And please, if you wanna tell me that I'm a bad town player, say it; but stop saying that I'm mafia, because I'm not, and you could only make more conffusion in the rest of the players.[/quote] I'm not sure if you are town or mafia either... I think you are leaning town... same with sportsguy. Both you two need to be watched (who doesn't) but we have bigger fish to catch now imo. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 11:37:09 Precisely Goose; Which is why I find extol to be a better target (will edit this to add quote) Anyways; it seems are intellect was to much contrary to previous insinuation. IT IS obvious that we cannot rely on the likes of Cooper, Darius, and In Hiding for they possess inferior intellect to ours and cannot grasp such master concepts. Allowing this day to continue on can be a double whammy for us; a mafia player may be able to turn the tables in said hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 11:38:28 607D716A69323D32050 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 11:39:12 The above is the quote I mentioned awesomely in my amazing post. Though I doubt most of you will be able to grasp such a grand post. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 11:52:07 We have so many votes on karterfreak already. Do you want me to switch to Extol? I'm pretty sure they are both mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 11:55:05 Well, Extols suspicion on Karterfreak is highly suspicious. But anyways, I'm so good at this; that I even had the time to orchestrate starlight zone from sonic 1! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80V6b48o7Yw&feature=channel_page[/media] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/02/09 at 12:11:55 Yeah, I'm looking pretty fucked regardless of what I do now. There could be a mafia role that avoids a watcher (ghost of some kind?), there could even be a mafia ditto that takes the persons name for the night, I have no clue. Those defenses are weak regardless, so there's no point in me trying to use them. Lenny, be honest. Did anyone else show up at Kmacc's last night? I don't want a name, just a yes or a no. Oh, and someone said something about my response to goose about him being an arrogant son of a bitch. That wasn't no lie, I can honestly see why Booth hates him now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:13:02 Booth loves all his children; arrogant or not. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/02/09 at 12:13:49 You obviously don't know booth :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Honko on 04/02/09 at 12:14:06 [7] karterfreak - (Pobre), Goose, Lenny, Pobre, Syzygy, In Hiding, (Sportsguy), (Darius), MVT, Extol [0] EnigmaticCam - (Extol) [0] Padzup - (MVT) [0] Etch - (Sportsguy) [0] Extol - (Goose), (Pobre), (Pobre) [0] Ivootjes - (Pobre) With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player reaches 9 votes, or in 51 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:16:02 Well Karterfreak; I suppose you're right; I don't know Booth as much as I thought I did. I honestly did not see him as the type that would hate others behind their backs. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 12:18:24 575D4E48594E635A4E595D573C0 wrote:
That pretty much seals your fate. If you were town, you wouldn't have given up so easily. Goodnight sweet prince. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by KoopZ on 04/02/09 at 12:23:49 just to play devil's advocate here.... goose and pobre, you realize you both are royally fucked if matt turns out to be town, right? darius, you're right of course. i didnt actually go back and look at the posts, i was relying on memory, but it was indeed ivo that started it, and sportsguy picked up shortly afterward instead of the reverse. the only reason matt's getting criticized so badly is cuz he's the only one that actually tried to defend howes instead of just saying that he thought we should lynch etch instead. i still dont know what to think anymore, except that we shouldnt end the day yet. i'm not 100% on anyone yet, but my strongest suspicions still lie with ivo and tyler. i have a gut feeling about fababu too, but thats all it is: a gut feeling. wont say anything more about that yet til i have more proof. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/02/09 at 12:26:02 Goose, you say I wouldn't have given up so easily, and yet I argued with you for 5 pages. Yeah, I definantly 'gave up'. You're smart enough to realize that right now what I say doesn't mean anything to people, as the odds are so highly against me. In short, stop being a dumbass, Goose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 12:30:02 Those 5 pages of arguing were not from the heart though. Like I said last night, you didn't truly believe what you were writing. That kind of thing is easy to spot when you know what you're looking for. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by KoopZ on 04/02/09 at 12:31:29 goose, you're still terrible at this game, and obviously dont know matt very well. the last five pages have been matt arguing every point to the best of his ability, but those arguements have been futile cuz you/pobre/others already have their minds made up. once again, stop being such an ass. you're still terrible at this game and dont really have any idea what you're doing. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:32:35 Cooper; seriously; just step down and let the big dogs do their work. You're amateur kid. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 12:32:47 You pee sitting down. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:33:28 Exactly. I still suspect Extol over matt though. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Fababu on 04/02/09 at 12:34:20 0D283B203C3A490 wrote:
With a mafia and a townie dead, it's almost sure that both are at different factions. In the case that Lenny was mafia, it would be a stupid movement claim a false town role and attack an innocent; cause he will be lynch at the next day, with an almost sure result of 3 townies dead and 2 mafias at the end of day 3. I haven't had many doubts of Matt, but after seeing Lenny posts I've given more attention at Matt posts. As Goose have highlighted in his post, Matt seemed to give up at that post; something crazy in the case that he's townie. IMO, there are very big possibilities of the guilty of Matt, but I'll like to continue with the day to see if someone more appears as suspicious. If we lynch Matt there will be 2 logic results: 1) Matt is a townie, ergo Lenny is mafia. 2) Matt is mafia. In that case, the faction of Lenny won't be sure. He could be the real viewer (the most logical option, cause nobody has claimed his role), or a mafia who tries to get his innocence lynching a partner (less possible option, at least at this point og the game). That's all for the moment. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Extol on 04/02/09 at 12:39:02 here come the flames from goose and pobre, but Koopz keeps his cool and doesnt claim to have superior intellect over anyone, and still does just as much or more analyzing and concluding than both of you, making him the better player IMO. thats why i agree with him on most everything. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by KoopZ on 04/02/09 at 12:39:47 6946454551465A64230 wrote:
i'm at least trying to look at this with a clear mind. you're just throwing your opinions around cuz you think you're right while you're basing your opinions off of nothing and/or other people's opinions and not actually coming up with anything on your own. and you're one to talk about being an amateur. goose, you leave my urinating habits out of this. ::) edited - to add more crap to the list of why pobre's a bad mafia player. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 12:41:07 Hey guys just got in not too long ago. Just gonna say that I am working on a large post so don't end the day before I get the chance to post it. I think what everyone is overlooking right now is that Fab roleclaimed yesterday and he wasn't taken out. Maybe bodyguard just wasn't a large priority for mafia but how would they know that Kmacc was a better kill than a confirmed town power? It's something to consider since we very nearly lynched him yesterday. Lenny, this post stuck out to me: 6564626D7A090 wrote:
Common tactic I've seen where mafia chuck around votes and once an adequate response is given, the vote is taken off.[/quote] Sword also did this to me earlier in the game: 492C2D2C1D0 wrote:
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My response sucked btw, I nearly called him out on this at the time but figured that I shouldn't be drawing more suspicion to myself. However I wouldn't say that Matt voting Ivo necessarily means that Ivo is town since it could just mean that Matt was trying to appear to be suspicious of a teammate. As of now we can't be sure if it goes either way. Matt, look at Howes' FIRST POST: 373B2E32373B3D2F296A696D5A0 wrote:
::) Any coincidence that Howes mentioned Ditto as well? Before it may not have had much meaning but this is a ridiculous move if you are mafia Matt. You have basically confirmed that there is such a role. Also if we assume that the rest of your post is true then we're also looking out for Gastly who is invisible to watchers (and possibly bodyguards?). For those of you who will jump out at me to say that it could be another Ghost Pokemon, no it can't. Gastly is the only first-form ghost of the 151 [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:41:15 What the fuck has he done? nothing at all. He didn't suspect Howes and he isn't suspecting the right people now. He can smash a few big fucking words together; big whoop. In the end this game will be decided by me and goose and that's the reality of it. Extol; quit trying to win KoopZ's support; you know he's incredibly envious of me and Goose's superior talent and you will use this to your advantage to win him over. Edit - This post is entirely aimed at Cooper. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:42:30 7579796665627364160 wrote:
i'm at least trying to look at this with a clear mind. you're just throwing your opinions around cuz you think you're right while you're basing your opinions off of nothing and/or other people's opinions and not actually coming up with anything on your own. and you're one to talk about being an amateur. goose, you leave my urinating habits out of this. ::) edited - to add more crap to the list of why pobre's a bad mafia player.[/quote]Prove your assertion correct. I have been doing proper analysis you're just a fucking hater dude seriously! :-/ :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:44:19 All you've done thus far KoopZ; is hate on others and bash others skill levels; you've done nothing to sniff out the mafia players; you say I base my thoughts of "opinions" what opinion is there to be had? Are you going to disagree with me when i say the fallowing people are suspicious? Extol Karterfreak Ivootjes Padzup |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/02/09 at 12:45:13 I haven't given up, but there really isn't much more I can say to defend myself. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by KoopZ on 04/02/09 at 12:45:37 you have done nothing to actually come up with this stuff on your own, thats all i'm saying. which is why i say that you suck at this game. and also if you'll go back and read my posts, i'm doing shit ton more analysis of posts than you have been. learn to read, mexican. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 12:46:06 7D606C77742F202F180 wrote:
ORLY? Who did everyone think was mafia, and still was able to get enough people to follow him in lynching the mafia Godfather? Do you want to read my resume again? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:48:23 Well Cooper; You obviously havn't read this entire thread; and you said it yourself; your basing things off memory. And I know your the type of person that hates me, so, you will forget the proper things and remember only the "Waffling". I advise you reread this thread because there are many post where I analyze peoples post and find contradictions; things that make very little sense. In the end; I am the one who spotted the flaws in karterfreaks defense. Anyone who disagrees with me and says that they aren't flaws; are ether 1 of two fucking things seriously... 1.) Mafia 2.) Retarded Edited - to add more shit about why KoopZ sucks fucking 37 dicks at this game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:49:44 But through all your analysis; insulting me calling me mexican (when I'm not btw) being a racist asshole; you've done nothing to churn results Kooper. Me and Goose got the God father with mad talent; you've done nothing but act like you know what your doing; acting smarter than you really are. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 12:53:53 Really, Pobre is like Socrates with his ability to think so purposely and discover the truth, and I am like Barack Obama with my ability to lead nations of people in troubled times. Why don't you people respect us more? (on a side note, a famous people mafia would be kewl :)) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:55:37 They don't appreciate my art; Goose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by karterfreak on 04/02/09 at 12:58:10 Padzup, I mentioned ditto because its a unique pokemon with its ability to clone, and I thought it'd be an obvious choice that honko would make. I'm guessing the role would probably be able to clone someone, upside and downside being that if you clone, you'll appear as whoever you cloned, so if someone were to watch the person you cloned, and you were a mafia and killed someone, that would immediatly make that person suspicious. Thats assuming ditto is on the mafia side. If he's on the town side, he could be protected from mafia (for example, say I was ditto and cloned Goose, I'd appear as Goose, so if mafia tried to kill me, then they wouldnt be able to find me.), downside would probably be that if the person you clone gets killed, you get killed too. It's a good role for either side, and kinda makes sense that the role would exist on at least one side. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 12:59:18 Man; I just don't know who the fuck to lynch anymore. Look; why the hell would extol, a previously very suspicious player; find Karterfreak who is also very suspicious, well, suspicious? Lets think about this for a second. Karterfreak defended howes with pretty much shitty defense; what if that was just bad playing on his part? What if he turns out to be town? Why the fuck would extol support the Karter freak bandwagon? Why the fuck is padzup remaining in the shadows about all this? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 13:01:13 Ditto, Gastly, and Mr. Mime seem like obvious choices. The ones we have to worry about are Scyther and Kaputops. WHO THE FUCK IS KABUTOPS. Maybe Snorlax can put people to sleep. Maybe Genghiskahn can put someone in his pouch. Maybe MY POWER LEVEL IS OVER 9000. Oh sorry wrong 90s fad. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 13:02:24 We should wait untill the end of the day untill we soak out information from the fallowing people, Padzup Extol Ivootjes Fababu Sportsguy Cam I just feel we don't have enough evidence to properly vote Karterfreak with enough confidence.. I think we should ether lynch extol or Ivo today. and if they turn out to be town; then we vote off karterfreak. Kooper also insulting me by calling me a mexican is something he's never done before; probably has some real life issues he needs to sort out and if thats the case he should just retire from this game if he's going to be a wad of cookie dough. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 13:04:28 unvote Vote: Sportsguy You don't want to mess with Goose [ch9829] and his minions. Give me everything you got if you want me to go back to voting karterfreak. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 13:05:14 Minion? don't get the wrong idea fag; your my bitch; don't get it twisted. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 13:07:07 Not talking about you Pobre. My minions are your minions. We're the leaders, everyone else is our bitch. And the mafia are our bitches whom we rape :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 13:08:33 Exactly. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 13:09:48 and tomorrow at this time I will be spreading karterfreak's asscheeks and putting my cock in between them. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/02/09 at 13:11:07 I wish goose and pobre would just make up their mind. You two are the most confusing people here. You think you are the greatest mafia players ever and i don't think you are. You sound like tom from the last game with his gut. You got howes right. If you get karterfreak or someone else right today, then i will proclaim that you know what your doing and vote with you the rest of the game. However, if your wrong i'm going to vote for one of you two tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Goose ♥ on 04/02/09 at 13:17:01 My mind is made up Tyler. I'm voting karterfreak, just right now I have my vote on you to pressure you a small bit. It seems you are irritated, but not mafia irritated. If you were mafia, I think you'd responded to my vote rather than said "stop dicking around" so I respect that and now I will put my vote back in karterfreak in hopes of a few more people voting so I can prove my awesomeness. unvote Vote: karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/02/09 at 13:21:51 Vote Karterfreak Just getting closer to see if goose is truly awesome (as he puts it). |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 13:23:13 What do you make of this Goose? Got the same nudge that I do? If our awsome auras fail us now we are done for. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Fababu on 04/02/09 at 13:28:55 030639382534163E3E2234510 wrote:
I just said it seems weird to me. He answers me. That's all. I can doubt of a person and ask if I want to listen something. And please, if you wanna tell me that I'm a bad town player, say it; but stop saying that I'm mafia, because I'm not, and you could only make more conffusion in the rest of the players.[/quote] I'm not sure if you are town or mafia either... I think you are leaning town... same with sportsguy. Both you two need to be watched (who doesn't) but we have bigger fish to catch now imo.[/quote] Well, it only depends of the trust that the watcher has in mine, but I won't recommend him to watch me. It will be only a night lost, because he will realize that I haven't lied in all this game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 13:29:45 Pobre, Lenny has already said almost everything there is to say about Matt. I don't need to waste my time repeating what he has said. I'd like to note though that nobody has really said anything about Matt advocating no-lynch earlier on which really irks me. Matt nearly got raped for it last game, why is this not the case here? Someone needs to unvote Matt. The Day should keep going for at least another couple of hours, six people have posted five times or fewer. If MVT were here he would be urging everyone to prolong it until tonight. Dumb move Tyler, didn't you unvote him earlier for the same reason? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 13:31:32 Do not fear my children. With me, you are immortals. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by In Hiding on 04/02/09 at 14:08:16 they've blocked the web at my work - cunts. This means i'll be alot less active. I think I can read posts on my phone but i dont think my i can post on my phone :( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/02/09 at 14:10:55 I've read through the past through pages, and some people asked me a few questions. Quote:
Cam is experienced in mafia, so I'm on the lookout for him. He has made a few excuses as to his lack of posting, and I know he knows something, I'm just not sure what. His first post after Day 2 had begun smelt fishy to me. 0312273024272136012B30212E27420 wrote:
This is the post I'm talking about. I mean, the first part has something about it that I am not comfortable with, not too sure. I wouldn't be surprised if he was mafia, but he isn't the most suspicious at the moment, and I don't think he is the most dangerous. Padzup ... I already pulled him out earlier for not playing much on Day 1, and when he returns he claims it was due to him being killed on early last game, and him not wanting to have the same done to him this game. This seems a bit self assured, and he isn't thinking about the contribution to his team. I know Padzup, he has alot to say, and him sitting at the back not talking alot just doesn't match up. He said he will redeem himself by posting more, but you not talking for the first day will not be forgotten. To be honest Tom, they could both be mafia, they could be town players who have made themselves look dodgy for actions they've made, but I'd say Padzup is more suspicious, for the reason above. Quote:
Fababu seems like more of a town to me now. I'm not going to say he is definately town, but he seems more worthy than Howes, and the suspicion has dropped. This doesn't excuse how poor his defences are, and how close minded he can be, but I don't think he is mafia. Of course he can prove his claim by bodyguarding Lenny, as Lenny asked for, in acronym form. If Lenny lives untill tomorrow, he can be trusted. As for Goose, I think it's pretty clear he is town. I mean, a few pages ago he was railing with karterfreak (who is accused mafia) and he strongly pleaded on Howes to be voted off, who was Mafia Godfather. It would be stupid to attack mafia members, but again, it could be a ploy. I'm not saying he is a clarified town, because nothing is never exact in this. The odds of Goose being mafia is low. (Look at him and Pobre sucking up to each other and themselves on the last page. I think it speaks for itself) Matt is very close to being lynched, and I can see why, he set himself up for that one. He defended Howes more than anyone, and that has backfired on him. I find it extremely suspect, but do we really want the day to end this early? Matt is as good as dead now, but do we not want to try to get anything else out of this day? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Darius on 04/02/09 at 14:25:20 Etch, Tim, Cam, we've heard hardly anything from you guys on Day 2. I don't think we should end the day until we've got more out of these three. It hasn't even been 24 hours yet so we ought to give people a little longer to respond. I'm off to bed now so I won't be posting until tomorrow morning. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/02/09 at 14:30:42 Are we set to end this now? 1 more vote is needed. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/02/09 at 14:33:12 And also none of the mafia will say anything whatsoever that could be seen as suspicious. They know that Karterfreak is fucked so they are just going to keep their mouths shut and say obvious things. I personally think we should end the day and move forward, keeping the pressure high on the mafia. Giving them more and more time to sit back, regroup or think of an escape plan might hurt us if we wait too much more. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 14:34:06 Agreed, we should end the day prematurely. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/02/09 at 14:34:34 Is there a mod that will be ready to lock it soon after the final vote is cast? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 14:37:47 Honko's online, that lord cunt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/02/09 at 14:38:18 shadow and honko are both online to do it...Sword do you want to do the honors? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/02/09 at 14:40:24 I bet the longer we wait some other idiot will try to make a roleclaim to save karterfreak...if anyone does don't fall for it |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 14:47:23 e: five fucking posts lmao. Well anyway here's some reading material for Night 2 guys. Maybe this will restore your confidence in me :) a bit quote-heavy though. This post is basically a culmination of my thoughts on a few posts from the beginning of the game until closer to the end of Day 1. I started writing this post last night and was interrupted and wasn't able to post it before going to bed. It is rather quote heavy but since the posts are from long enough ago that people may have forgotten them they are necessary for context. I suppose this is going to come off as rather disjointed as I wrote different parts at different stages of my reading. I would revise it more but I'm not sure if I even have time to post it at all with Matt one vote away from being lynched. I debated waiting to post this until Day 3 but all that means is that Lenny will surely be killed as he is currently the most dangerous known role to mafia. If I am right in my hunches here mafia will likely take me out, effectively wasting their night kill. This could potentially save Lenny and if there is a town roleblocker they may get lucky and roleblock any of the mafia roles if they know who is being targeted that night. However I am likely wrong anyway so I am of no threat to mafia :) THE MAJORITY OF THIS POST WAS WRITTEN BEFORE LENNY POSTED 7F6E5B4C585B5D4A7D574C5D525B3E0 wrote:
Cam mentions Tom and Ivo as examples of town. Is he trying to imply that they are both town if he knows that at least one are mafia? The second half of the post baffles me as it looks like it starts off sarcastic and then suddenly blends into a serious tone again. Either way here's Cam supporting no-lynch pretty fervently very early on. You guys (Pobre especially) were suspicious of Tom in early Day 1. Has this changed? What are your opinions on him now? 4D5C697E6A696F784F657E6F60690C0 wrote:
Nope and nope. Nothing new said here and MVT was way more passionate about the necessity of making sense of a decent number of posts. Really just a rehash. We'll be seeing many more of those from Cam. Cam sticks to Ivo knowing that nobody is going to vote for him for the simple fact that everyone thought Ivo would be a great help to the town. So far not so much, all he has really done is try to get Etch out of here. Cam is riding on the fact that mafia's kill will make everyone see the light somehow. Obviously it didn't since Kmacc didn't try to get anyone killed; anyone should have seen from a mile away that mafia would kill a town who hadn't said much. We know a bit more but we know FAR more from Howes than we do Kmacc. Why would he argue that a town kill would be more beneficial than a mafia kill? And if he thought town kills were beneficial then why would he not vote at risk of losing towns? 7F6E5B4C585B5D4A7D574C5D525B3E0 wrote:
Also, if he wants to vote No-lynch at the end, why is he doing it now? What the fuck? 7C191819280 wrote:
Hopefully? I know Ivo is useful as a town player but this is really coming off to me like Sword is saying that he hopes he is not found out to be mafia by not posting. There's an undertone of fear in that post, look at the wording. 48636478650A0 wrote:
Look at who was voting Ivo early on! --CONTINUED IN NEXT POST-- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 14:48:19 --CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST-- 122D34342F313E285B0 wrote:
Look, again, Cam, Matt and Sword turn up. Three Mafs and three Towns would seem fair to throw in there just to keep everything equal so if Tim and Cooper are town then I think this is the start of a trend. 59487D6A7E7D7B6C5B716A7B747D180 wrote:
How on earth could anyone be satisfied with everyone's stuff at this point? Several people (myself included) had barely posted and Goose was still piling up with votes. It's like Cam is completely ignoring what's going on around him. Also note that he says Ivo's first post was great but above Ivo doesn't say anything about him at all. No wonder he says Ivo is being reasonable ::) 1706332430333522153F24353A33560 wrote:
This was his last post of that night, which honestly is pretty much a rehash of what has been said before then. For context this was around the time everyone was piling votes on Goose for his inconsistencies in his voting. He definitely could have added more. Throughout the game I have not seen a single original thought from Cam. 687473717D6F7B642D1C0 wrote:
There's another alliance forming between him, Darius and Koopz. Extol doesn't really seem to acknowledge Tom's statement but maybe looking into it more will show that there is more to it. I primarily do not like that Tom again swears that he is town. This is unnecessary and he states in the next sentence that he will not reveal his role so it really means nothing. I realize this is a closed game but he shouldn't have even mentioned it if he had no intention of doing so. Swearing now probably means less than Howes saying he was town-aligned as Tom has done it each game now. The wording here turns me off a bit, specifically when he says "the truth will come out." This can be taken either way I suppose but the way he says it makes it seem like he is hiding "the truth". I don't like this. He also mentions Sword as a likely town but he doesn't really give any evidence of anyone he has listed actually being town. And as for Howes: "Better to go out trying than to not try at all imho." Sounds like he knows that Howes is hiding something and that he will soon be lynched. If my memory serves me right it hasn't been long enough for Howes to gather enough votes yet. He also bizarrely mentions Tyler and lumps him with everyone else. Also he addresses me without warning. Not to say that I am unsuspicious but he appears to do this with no reason. I respond to him and then he essentially says "okay that's fine, just pushing buttons." Sounds a lot like what Lenny pointed out about mafia throwing around votes and Sword also did this to me. Let me highlight this statement again: Quote:
This I feel means more than the rest of his post and says a lot more about Tom this game than likely anything else he has said. --CONTINUED IN NEXT POST-- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 14:49:04 --CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST-- 6D67646779671E0 wrote:
If I were mafia, what would there be left for me to figure out? Power roles? ::) If you take out the 'if he's mafia' it sounds like he's talking to Tom about how I'm a threat :/ Tim also swears. I guess this is not as unwarranted as Tom did it before he did but it still doesn't seem right. 68574E4E554B4452210 wrote:
He would do it too if he were mafia--that seems to be implying that he knows Tom is mafia. Also Ivo distances himself from Tom by saying that since he would do it if he were mafia, if he doesn't do it then he is town. ???? Maybe I am reading too much into this. 24383F3D3123372861500 wrote:
If you were town? What the hell Tom? He also seems to be implying that Goose is mafia, or that they are both mafia. I'm not really sure how to read this one since most of what Tom says tends to have a double-meaning. Tom is going to be hard to read in the future. 3C212D36356E616E590 wrote:
Extol says the same thing Tom did a second ago. Whether this is reinforcement from a fellow maf or just copying is up in the air. Doesn't help Extol's case a ton. 12777677460 wrote:
Look at the bottom six again: karterfreak [ch9734]Sword[ch9734] Howes Fababu Ivootjes Etch Is it any coincidence that one of the smallest posters at the time was Godfather and that the other five are suspected mafia? Right now I'm thinking Etch is basically the best target for mafia as he would be an obvious choice for barely posting. If he isn't mafia there is no risk of accidentally taking down a teammate by pushing too hard. Seems like the perfect way to go if you're looking for a way to distract everyone from yourself. And the 'townies squabbling' bit is a repeat of an earlier statement by Kmacc. May be a coincidence but I somehow doubt it. Could have been trying to say that everyone who is talking is town, which as we saw from Howes, who posted more earlier on, is untrue. 3C212D36356E616E590 wrote:
This is a lie. I recall Extol saying something along the same lines but instead said playing mafia was more fun than town somewhat recently. This catches my eye more than a little. 2C303735392B3F2069580 wrote:
The alliance? I thought Pobre mentioned that as fuel for deducing they were mafia. ???? If he really thought Pobre was mafia then he would have just tried to get him then and there. Also puts himself in a safe spot since if Goose is town he still has an out because he can say that it was for the sake of determining whether Pobre was town. I don't really like this. --CONTINUED IN NEXT POST-- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 14:50:28 --CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS POST-- 132C35352E303F295A0 wrote:
::) Sounds like Ivo is testing the waters, basically asking for no-lynch in a safer way than Cam has. But hasn't he already read all the reasons that everyone gave to Cam to show why no-lynch is a terrible idea? Keep this in mind for my later statements. So far this means both Cam and Ivo attempted to start a no-lynch. 4352677064676176416B70616E67020 wrote:
Cam is discouraging Goose from following the Monty Hall problem. I think we all know what happened with that. Also he just restates an earlier post about inconsistency that was a rehash in the first place. Also, "These are the 3 biggest things that jump out at me." He lists the three top suspects. No shit they are the biggest things that jump out at you, they're at the top of the voting list! I don't know how this slid by everyone. 4352677064676176416B70616E67020 wrote:
That is a terrible defense, the point of the game is to win it for [i]your team[/1]. What reason would anyone have for trying to help town before knowing their role? If they turn out to be mafia then helping town would be stupid. It was a half-baked move designed to get people to think that he wanted to help town for some reason. That alone should have been proof he was mafia and I am ashamed for missing that. Let's keep this in mind when seeing that Ivo says later on something along the lines of: "All Howes has done that is suspicious is say he hasn't checked his role PM. Etch hasn't posted at all, he is much more suspicious." Ivo you can do better than this ::) Also in general Cam's defense of Howes isn't particularly strong as Goose, Howes and Fab were all within lynching range at that point. Notice how Cam says not to vote Fab or Howes but to go for Goose instead. Either this means that Cam knows that Goose is a threat to mafia or that Fab is mafia as well. I'm leaning toward the former since nobody really defended Fab. He was pretty much left high and dry and is really lucky that he wasn't lynched. 1302372034373126113B20313E37520 wrote:
fail fail fail fail fail How did nobody call Cam out for this post? First he says that 20 pages worth of posts are COMPLETELY USELESS until mafia kills somebody. To repeat from earlier, why would a town kill be worth more than a mafia kill? Towns, especially on Day 1, do not know what role anyone is for sure so only certain things can be read differently. Mafia do so once a mafia is exposed everything they say takes on an entirely different meaning. Second, that is a retarded excuse for a no-lynch. There is no reason to not unvote instead of go for no-lynch if you don't know who to lynch. Instead Cam throws his vote on No-lynch and keeps it there all fucking day, he ends up not voting for anyone! He had this to say a few pages before he made that post: "At 14 pages, by this point all votes should have some analysis other than "I feel it"." Even according to himself fourteen pages is enough. So why are 20 pages useless again? At 14 pages Howes was not about to be lynched. At 20, he was. I wonder if that means anything ::) --CONTINUED IN NEXT POST-- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Time on 04/02/09 at 14:50:46 I'm still suspicious of Tom defo. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 14:51:10 --CONTINUED IN NEXT POST-- 40252425140 wrote:
Okay so now Sword wants no-lynch too! No-lynching has so far been proposed by Cam, Ivo, Matt AND Sword. hey look more evidence of the same group guys its totally a coincidence tho! 7B1E1F1E2F0 wrote:
Goose - 5 Howes - 4 Fababu - 3 They all claim to have roles, ffs. I'd be willing to go for any of them, it seems like complete utter chance at the moment. We could get any of them, but who would be the safest bet? I agree with Matt about losing the cop killing us over, so should we even risk it with Howes? We have no idea what Fababu's role is, either. And Goose isn't going to tell us, it looks like.[/quote] Goose did not roleclaim, he may have implied a role but he never explicitly stated he was even a power role. Sword agrees with Matt pretty much completely; Matt has been torn apart for defending Howes but Sword hasn't so much as been noticed. And look, that's the last in the group of four to say Howes' lynch was down to chance. Are we seeing the pattern yet? Also from the looks of it Sword wanted everyone to unvote Goose so Ivo could get all of the undecided voters to go for Etch at the last second. Fits with the plan. In Howes' first post: 373B2E32373B3D2F296A696D5A0 wrote:
I don't like how he states that it is random, I think that early in the game we would all know a vote like that is random. Seems really odd that he would have to specify. 585D62637E6F4D6565796F0A0 wrote:
This. Look at who hasn't voted Matt. Has Ivo? Has Sword? Has Cam? This is going to sound contradicting but I can't vote for Matt (YET). He can off himself as it stands. Now I realize this post focuses on only a few people (Cam especially) but I can't help it with this amount of evidence linking the four of them. I may make another post like this concerning Tom, Koopz and Darius (and Extol?) in the future if I feel it necessary. To summarize, here is my first list of suspects this game: Mafia Ivootjes karterfreak EnigmaticCam Sword Undecided In Hiding KoopZ Darius Extol Syzygy Etch Fababu Pobre Sportsguy001 Town (for now) Goose MVT Lenny Some of my choices may seem odd but keep in mind that I am not convinced that people in the Undecided list are mafia, nor am I convinced that people in the Town list are town. Ultimately I have little idea of who is mafia but as stated in this post this is how I currently feel about the situation. And to clarify, this is the end of my mammoth post so if anyone wants to end the day feel free to do so. If nobody else is here to do it and everyone comes to agreement I will do the honours. e: I suppose Sword will do it then. I know I didn't vote today but it wasn't a very long day and everyone seemed to be in agreement anyway, I don't think I need to vote to show my allegiances. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by MVT on 04/02/09 at 14:53:59 I would like to see sword do it to solidify his township |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/02/09 at 14:54:38 Alright then. porbe stfu u cunt u ruined my post!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/02/09 at 14:55:49 7B4A43437B4E434A2F0 wrote:
Well, looks like we can't get much more out of this day after all. And most people seem to be ok with ending the day, including myself now, as I can't see us getting much else out of today, it will just drag itself on and we won't learn anything new. Vote patterns are set to karterfreak today, and his grave is all set, so I'll vote him and do the honours Vote : karterfreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Night 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Honko on 04/02/09 at 15:03:34 The Pokemon retraced their steps from yesterday, heading back the direction they came from. It wasn't even Noon yet when they began to feel tired. "Can we take a break?" "No, we've got a lot of ground to cover, and plus we haven't decided who to kill today yet." "Come on, just a short lunch stop. Pleaaaaaase? What if we all agree? Everybody, who wants to take a break?" 16 voices called out in agreement. Only karterfreak wanted to keep going. "Hmmmmm," said 16 Pokemon, in deep thought. "Gulp," said karterfreak, in deep shit. karterfreak has died. He was ZUBAT, Mafia GOON. The sun conveniently set very early that day, and they all decided to go back to sleep. Night 2 begins now. You have ~24 hours to send me your night actions by PM. Day 3 will start at 4pm PDT, or possibly earlier if I receive all night actions before then. Final Day 2 Vote Totals [9] karterfreak - (Pobre), (Goose), Lenny, Pobre, Syzygy, In Hiding, (Sportsguy), (Darius), MVT, Extol, Goose, Sportsguy, Sword [0] Sportsguy - (Goose) [0] EnigmaticCam - (Extol) [0] Padzup - (MVT) [0] Etch - (Sportsguy) [0] Extol - (Goose), (Pobre), (Pobre) [0] Ivootjes - (Pobre) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/03/09 at 16:15:41 The Pokemon woke from their extra long nap feeling fresh and ready for some more adventure. After taking off and walking for half an hour, they noticed their numbers were significantly reduced. Feeling it would be rude to leave without everyone, they turned back and checked their camp more carefully. "Haha, look at that brown thing on the ground! It looks like a piece of poop!" "LOL its a giant turd sticking up out of the ground. ROFL!" "Wait a minute, there's a nose on that turd." "Oh shit." Extol has died. He was DIGLETT, Town HIDER. "Uh oh guys, looks like there's another man down over here." "Bummer." Goose has died. He was LAPRAS, Town MAYOR. "Well, this isn't looking good." "No kidding. And look over here." "Oh man, I was looking forward to eggs for breakfast tomorrow." Koopz has died. He was CHANSEY, Town HEALER. "Alright, time to get moving." "What? We haven't checked everything yet." "What's the point? You think there's another death? Even Honko wouldn't make a game where FOUR people die in one night!" WRONG Lenny has died. He was GROWLITHE, Town TRACKER. Shocked and frightened by the loss of so many of their own in one night, the Pokemon quickly moved on. Active Player List 1) Darius 2) EnigmaticCam 3) Etch 5) Fababu 8) In Hiding 9) Ivootjes 14) MVT 15) Padzup 16) Pobre 17) Sportsguy 18) Sword 19) Syzygy Dead 7) Howes - Lynched Day 1 - MEOWTH, Mafia GODFATHER 11) Kmacc - Killed Night 1 - ABRA, Town COP 10) karterfreak - Lynched Day 2 - ZUBAT, Mafia GOON 4) Extol - Killed Night 2 - DIGLETT, Town HIDER 6) Goose - Killed Night 2 - LAPRAS, Town MAYOR 12) Koopz - Killed Night 2 - CHANSEY, Town HEALER 13) Lenny - Killed Night 2 - GROWLITHE, Town TRACKER Day 3 begins now. The deadline is at exactly 5:00pm Pacific time on Monday. With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. The day ends when a player reaches 7 votes, or in 72 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by karterfreak on 04/03/09 at 16:27:13 Well, GG everyone. I still think goose and pobre are horrible players :P If it wasnt for the fact that goose got killed at night, I would have said I cant wait to watch goose and pobre's giant ego's kill the town, but meh. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 16:31:59 I promised many that I would gloat today; but I won’t; because we just got anally raped in the ass. >_> I’m going to keep this much shorter than my previous opener post. Karterfreak and Howes were obvious; killing off the next mafia players is going to prove to be far more difficult and I just have the feeling we are going to kill off many townies; so unlike yesterday we must keep a balance between haste and patience; don’t take this words lightly; TRUST ME ON THIS. We can’t drag this day out to long; but at the same time we cannot simply end it like we did day 2. A mixture of Padzups post; and Karterfreaks post, as well as post in general revamped by opinion all together; again this is a pre-written post. My guess at whos going to die tonight? Lenny. (edit, Lenny, Goose, Extol, KoopZ. People who voted for Karterfreak in any fashion or more likely to be Town now. Asking people to convince us that they are town is useless at this point. Mafia Karterfreak Howes Town Kmacc Etch Pobre Goose MVT Lenny Koopz Extol Leaning Towards Town Sportsguy001 – Same as Extol. Sword – Dealt the finishing blow to Karterfreak, he’s leaning towards Town as a result. Leaning Towards Mafia In Hiding – Bluntly said that I was mafia; focused his attention on me; and as someone previously pointed out; he selected both Me and Goose as a way to fail safe his probable demise. EnigmaticCam – Pad pretty much covered my reasoning behind this. Completely Clueless about these guys atm Syzygy Padzup Ivootjes Fababu Darius |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 16:34:48 I believe it was a role block on enigmatic cam that caused him to self destruct and kill off 4 townies? Something along these lines happend last night. WTF, what a fucking turn of events this has been. >_< |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/03/09 at 16:36:18 I think the town vig's incredibly messed up big time. There is no way the mafia got 4 kills in a night. They probably got two or so, but town ended up killing atleast 2 of our own. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Goose ♥ on 04/03/09 at 16:37:27 FUCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKTARDS I swear if I wasn't a mafia lynch and was instead some town vigilante, wow, I hope you feel stupid now. Good luck to the MAFIA now. Fuck you town after everything I did for you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 16:38:37 Even with this the tables are even. I will get us out of this mess. Have faith in me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 16:51:00 All retarded vigilantes; speak up. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 16:55:25 What the fuck happened last night? Jesus Christ, I didn't know it was possible 4 people could die in one night. Honko, your game is broken. Side notes. Lenny died at night. Lenny asked to be protected, which Fababu claimed to be the bodyguard. Lenny died, Fababu is still alive. Either Fababu didn't help Lenny (for whatever reason, I do not know) or he lied about his role. He better speak up pretty soon. Goose's death had better not have been from town. Even if he was being arrogant and smug, killing him off on purpose makes it harder for us to win. If a townie killed Goose, you really are a complete idiot. KoopZ I also had down in the townie list, shame about him being a power and being murdered. We will need to check back in the topic today, and see what he said, who he accused and what for. I recall KoopZ being suspicious of Tyler throughout the game, and he is still alive. Extol was also probably some stupid kill by the town, finding Extol slightly suspicious so they lynched him for the hell of it. He wasn't the cleanest guy in the game, compared to Pobre and Goose and MVT, but he wasn't that suspicious either. List of players and whether they are living or not : Etch Pobre MVT Sportsguy001 Sword In Hiding EnigmaticCam Syzygy Padzup Ivootjes Fababu Darius 12 players left, 7 votes to lynch. We should seriously think this out first, before rushing into things. We big-headedly ended yesterday early, and then we get raped during the night. The mafia are probably laughing over this, why do I get the feeling it was just townies using their powers on the wrong people? We are going to have to be careful who we decide to kill. If we rush into another death it may lead to even more destruction. I have faith in the town Pobre, we can do this. We just need to work together and stop with the squabbling. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 17:03:59 In Hiding, did you fucking kills goose? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 17:17:19 Etch - Town Pobre - Town MVT - Town Everyone else is mafia as far as I'm concerned. Sportsguy001 Sword In Hiding EnigmaticCam Syzygy Padzup Ivootjes Fababu Darius |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 17:31:24 I remember seeing In Hiding online yesterday night at very strange intervals. Other then that; I think umm.. we best be careful bout who we lynch. [smiley=dead.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 17:33:35 With that said, we need a plan on what the fuck we are going to try to accomplish today. We NEED to lynch another mafia today, so we will have to analyse carefully and not make a quick, ridiculous decision. Active players that are still alive: Etch - Hasn't posted much throughout the game, but he is a busy man. Pobre strongly defends him, and knows him better than anyone else. I never really considered him to be mafia after Day 1 ended. I was just thinking of getting rid of someone who wasn't talking over someone who claimed a important role that killing him could of screwed us up. I see him as town, and trust in Pobre. Pobre - Has posted far more than anyone else here, very unmafia like. Definately town, no question. Has provided alot of theories and explanations that do have a subliminal content, but it's not always clear. InHiding claims that either Goose or Pobre is mafia. Goose is dead and was proven town, so I'm suspicious of Tom now, as I think even suspecting Pobre at this stage in the game is ridiculous. MVT - Albeit a bit confusing at first, comes across as very aggressive. Has been pretty accurate with his suspicions so far, definate town. He pressed against Howes unbelieveably hard, something I couldn't see a mafia doing to his teammate. I hope he continues to post and help us out. Sportsguy001 - Damn you, you're hard to predict as to what team you are on. You've posted way more than you did in previous games, but that doesn't really prove too much. KoopZ suspected you throughout the entire game, and now he is dead, so that doesn't look too good on your half. You have been suggesting things and helping out, so you could be town, and I'm leaning more towards it ... but not definate. In Hiding - Haven't helped us out as much as you did in previous mafia games. You've pointed the finger here and there and thrown a few questions about, nothing really stands out about you telling me you are town, though. And no, it's not because of the "I swear on my ____ that I am ____", It's just you haven't been as helpful as you could have. You also suspected one of Goose and Pobre to be mafia. Goose is town, and is now dead. Still think Pobre is mafia, Tom? Care to explain why? EnigmaticCam - Because you were killed so early in the past games, I didn't know what to expect from you, but seeing you stay alive this long being the experienced mafia player that you are, is suspicious to me. If you are town, why are they keeping you alive, as compared to last time where you were killed off straight away? Your posts always seem a bit vague to me, too. I said before, I feel you're hiding something. I want to know what it is. Leaning torwards mafia at the moment. Syzygy - I wish you'd post more, because when you were mafia you didn't post much, and you aren't posting much now. You've explained yourself as to why you can't post as much, but It would be nice to hear more input from you. Because of this, you're about 50/50 to me. You could be town, but I wouldn't be surprised if you were mafia. I'm leaning towards town though, but If you could post more, it would be of a help. I think we are all a little bit mystified by what you are, Tim. Padzup - At first I had him pinned as mafia, due to him being quiet throughtout the whole of the first day, barely posting anything. I know him well outside of the game, and even looking through the last game, he has a lot of stuff to say for himself and others. Read the essay he wrote on the previous page, and it leads me to believe he is trying to actually help, instead of worrying about him getting killed. Leaning more torwards town, but I still want to hear from him. Ivootjes - I had you pinned as a townie at first, but it seems to have reversed. You were extremely eager to get the vote onto someone other than Howes, because of the roleclaim, and you created and jumped on the Etch bandwagon quick as hell. Howes and karterfreak immediately followed, to attempt to save Howes' ass, but that didn't work. I know you could well be town and just trying to save a potential cop, but you were gathering numbers of people who could switch to Etch in the last few minutes. You're suspicious to me, leaning towards mafia. Fababu - There was alot of drama on Day 1 involving you, and you roleclaimed as a bodyguard, and it's Day 3, and you're still living. Day 2, however, Lenny roleclaimed, posted solid proof of an action, and begged for protection. The Day finished, it showed that karterfreak was mafia as Lenny implied. You claimed the bodyguard role, after having seen this, why didn't you protect him? He really could have been useful, but he had to sacifice himself to get a mafia. I can't let go how you got out of the lynch on Day 1, survived Night 1, lived through Day 2/Night 2, but didn't save Lenny as you claim you could have. Unless this is not the role you have, or if you don't even have a role at all, or if you're mafia. It could be so many things. You have a lot of explaining to do, you're leaning torwards Mafia for this mistake. Darius - The guy who was the most trusted towns player last game doesn't make such a big appearance this game, doesn't post nearly as much, doesn't prod and push people the way he did last game, and to be honest, I don't know why. Perhaps he is like Padzup, afraid of being killed, and doesn't want to talk much to avoid the scenario. But he could be mafia too, sliding under the radar. It's hard to tell, he needs to speak up. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Padzup on 04/03/09 at 17:36:44 What the fuck happened last night? Jesus Christ, I didn't know it was possible 4 people could die in one night. Honko, your game is AWESOME. fixed 526366787772020 wrote:
Hmmm who's alive on this list? Now to start I'm going to say that it doesn't make sense that I am not dead. If I were wrong about who was mafia I would have been killed to convince everyone that I was "right". Not to sound self-important but it seems to me like mafia spared me so it would appear that I was completely off. Maybe I wasn't so wrong after all :) Sword makes a good point about Fab that I also made yesterday. He claimed a plausible bodyguard role but so far doesn't seem to have really done anything and made one measly post yesterday. To be fair the day was short but Tim was the only other person to make one post. He also hasn't contributed to any town discussion yet which is dumb if he is trying to secure himself as town. Is he really trying to coast through the game on the sole fact that he roleclaimed and Howes turned up more suspect? Don't forget we nearly lynched him--I think there was a reason for that since two dead townies railed on him pretty hard (Goose and Kmacc). 6D677472637459607463676D060 wrote:
???? Why does he mention Pobre with Goose? Matt tried to throw everyone off in IRC with his "hah u guys dont know the rest of mafia gl take that for what you will" crap, wouldn't put it past him if he tried to make it sound like Pobre was town. Not to say that Pobre is mafia, just to make that clear. Just wondering why Matt would say something like that. 5877747460776B55120 wrote:
Cam? Why would Cam be (going from your post) Voltorb specifically? Anything you know that you aren't sharing? I have to leave for a few hours, I'll be back later tonight. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 17:40:20 And as for me, I'm a townie, but I haven't been doing a fantastic job at proving this, but I am trying to help as best as I can. We're in a bit of a mess right now, we need to be very careful as to who we lynch today, lynching a townie will put us at worse risk tomorrow. We have 13 players (2 or 3 of which are mafia, maybe 4 maximum) still alive, everyone needs to post, we have 72 hours, we should not dive into a lynch like yesterday. Even though we had an exact plan yesterday, as we had solid evidence, today we have nothing, just suspicions of others that are still alive and the posts of Goose, KoopZ, Extol, Lenny and Kmacc, which are confirmed (dead) townies. We can still win, we just have to be careful as to who we lynch. Anyone who even tries to end the day before at least 48 hours have passed goes down as suspect, unless it's a really obvious slip-up by someone that heavily looks mafia, then we should not insta-lynch and we should think this out. Give everyone a chance to post, and we'll take it from there. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 17:42:30 Nice Read Sword; you are town to me now. Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 17:50:21 Mayby Fababu posted as hitmonchan and howes posted as slowpoke because Fababu wanted to get lynched? Ether way; I'm on a shit ton of xanax so it's hard to sort out my thoughts; I'm going to make a post like Sword did. Edit Reason - removed something that was meant to be in the bottom post; made two post to make it clear that I'm making two separate points. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 17:51:16 BUT KEEP IN MIND, DO NOT ASK PEOPLE TO TRY TO CONVINCE US THAT THEY"RE TOWN; Find other means of getting answers; right now we are in a position where we can get fucking anally raped yet again. They broke are "factions" the town was split into several groups; and now what we are left with; is a bunch of townies that can EASILY be manipulated against one another because we don't trust eachother. So I say once again, do not ask for people to prove they are town; it's a mistake; especially with possibilitys of Darius and Cam being Mafia; both whome are VERY SMART. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 17:55:08 I'm going to bed now, but I'll come back tomorrow to see what the general feel is of the remaining players, and make a vote accordingly. I can't decide out of the list below as to who I would vote for, but It would be one of them compared to the rest. Most Suspicious Players EnigamicCam Fababu Ivootjes These three are the main 3 active players that I'm worried about. I'm interested to see what they have to say for themselves, and what the rest of the town have to say about each other. I'm also holding back on the vote incase a bandwagon is started overnight. If a player starts to get high amount of votes, you should unvote to help span out the day. It only takes 7 to lynch, and ending the day early won't help us out this time. Weekend finally, I should be up to date alot more often now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/03/09 at 17:56:45 Sword, Koopz was suspicious of me and a little of ivo. I would be stupid to kill koopz as it would put the blame on me. I see this a move by the mafia to spread the blame and off themselves. I also get the feeling that is what they did by killing goose. Killing goose puts the blame on tom. This seems like a ploy by the mafia. However, Tom could have killed goose for their bet. I agree Fababu has some explaining to do. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 17:57:40 Padzup: Listen; you ether made a mistake with your list last night; and are defending yourself with reversed logic because of 1 of the fallowing reasons, 1.) You made a huge mistake, don't try to be smart and defend yourself from it; show emotion in your post, show a little more emotion like a retarded townie who fucked up would. There is no way a person in a mafia players position would have "Spared you" or "made you live" for whatever reason you listed. I doubt such a subject was even on THEIR MINDS. -_- Plus, bringing up that list in the first place was completely pointless. 2.) You're mafia. And don't even try to suspect me; I am town; it's fucking bluntly obvious. It's weird how you would suddenly suspect me this far into the game. Matt Ellis was probably saying we don't know who the rest of the mafia were in IRC to throw us off; maybe not; ether way; he's a fucking complete DICK for saying that after he is dead. -_- And I'm going to answer your question as to whether or not I know things others don't, Yeah, I do know ALOT OF SHIT NONE OF YOU KNOW ABOUT. But I'm not fucking saying shit for the sake of the town. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:01:48 1D787978490 wrote:
You put more evidence on Fababu than any suspicions thus far, he is almost 100% mafia; I agree not ending this day fast; but I don't think we should drag it out to long ether. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:11:49 Quote:
Weak defense. Even if you did kill KoopZ, how could we place a suspicion on you without a reasonable doubt? Sounds like you ether slipped up or outed yourself. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 18:20:09 You're right ... whatever happened, Fababu claimed to be Bodyguard and failed to protect Lenny, who was a proven townie when the day came to an end. If you were Bodyguard, someone said that _______ was mafia, told everyone to vote them and for a bodyguard to protect him, and at the end of the day they were mafia, wouldn't you follow a request to help him out? Something is definately up here ... I mean, it's possible that we had 2 mafias pinned on Day 1 (Howes & Fababu) but we eventually swtiched to Howes and let the Fababu drama drop, and it hasn't been brought up again until now. And we can't let it go anytime soon, Lenny really could of been a great use to us. We should give him a chance to defend himself, and see what he has to say. If he doesn't even bother, or his defence is unbelieveably poor, maybe we should go for him. And I can see what you mean by the days being too long, but they shouldn't be too short, either. SportsGuy, that is an understandable theory. But I don't know about the mafia killing Goose to put blame on Tom ... It's possible, but we all knew Goose was town anyway, I just wasn't expecting him to die, why would they murder someone who is a common townie who doesn't act as if they have anything to hide? Tom also said something about the web being blocked at work, so he won't be participating as much. As understandable as this is, it's gonna probably lead to him getting alot of suspicion later for not playing nor posting as much. Its the weekend too, everyone should have more time to post and check out the topic. And I don't seem to want to go to bed for some reason :( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:26:25 Etch – I know Etch is town. Pobre – I know I’m town. MVT – He was suspected early on; gained my trust; I truly hope he isn’t fucking me over right now. Sportsguy001 – Look for one of my recent post regarding his weak defense; pit that together with his overall pokerface and hard to read attitude throughout the entire game; with a shit load of our power roles dead it’s highly unlikely that he’s doing this to protect himself from a night kill because of his “power role.” He did not make himself out to be a townie when the time was right, and he’s putting up very weak and weird defenses now which were unwarranted; why is he defending himself out of the blue? Sword – Dealt the finishing blow to Karterfreak; and with his recent post regarding the analysis of all town players; it’s pretty safe to say he is town. In Hiding – Has suspected me and Goose from the start; and defends this with his previous town performances and his “gut”. This seems to be a trend amongst mafia goers no? To state how you previously played? But then again; extol did that and he was town. But the fact that he’s still convinced I’m mafia is a tad weird. But then again, he spends his life gambling and raping little girls; So I wouldn't put this fucking retarded bet between him and Goose past us; as his only fucking reason for playing. -_- EnigmaticCam – Padzup made a very strong points against him the other day with a shit ton of post that most probably deemed TL;DR. Pit this together with the fact that Enigmatic Cam has basically said that everyone is town throughout the entire game; barely post; and remains apathetic. But alas; Padzups recent post regarding his “List” is shit. And this in turn protects cam. Syzygy – He doesn’t fucking post enough. I have no clue about this guy. Padzup – Made a really shitty post recently regarding his list that makes no sense whatsoever rather than to come off as a desperate call for "help"; but at the same time; made a very strong argument against Cam who is also a suspicious person. Ivootjes – Started the Etch Bandwagon when Howes was gonna be lynched; basically didn’t post very strong arguments afterwords; pretended to be drunk; and had full support from Cam. Fababu - Faked a role. If he were town; and was a body guard; 4 of our townies would not have been killed tonight; especially Lenny. Not to mention his weak defenses and his supporting of Howes. Darius – Seems impossible to read. With this list; I suspect Fababu, Ivootjes, Padzup, Enigmatic Cam, In Hiding, and Sportsguy of being Mafia. No way there is 6 mafia members left. 4 at the very most; and 2-3 most likely. With this List; I am uncertain about Darius and Syzygy; And whether or not they are town seems to shift. Edit Reason(S) - Grammar; Inhiding addition. "Put cam in padzup analysis to make it easier to read." |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:34:16 Is there any pokemon that can deflect a power roles effect? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:36:33 6B0E0F0E3F0 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:37:55 62070607360 wrote:
I see Tom's name on the "whos online" list all the fucking time. he logs on and off alot too. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 18:39:01 Nice list Pobre. I agree with your suspicions, and your definates, but we need to decide on who we need to get rid of from that list. Who is the biggest threat/most dangerous? Something we need to be asking ourselves. I am actually going to bed now, I won't be responding for at least 12 hours, but I'll be here tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing what people have to say about last night, and plans for today. Everyone needs to post at least once, and it needs to be a good post at that. Some people have alot of explaining to do ... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:42:41 Most suspicious in order from most to least. Fababu Ivootjes Sportsguy EnigmatiCam Padzup In Hiding Darius Sysygy Etch Pobre Goose MVT |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 18:43:05 4966656571667A44030 wrote:
It's hard to be sure ... seems like a bit of an overpowered role, but anything is possible, I suppose. And about Tom ... I just don't know. He is on the list of people who need to clear their name if they want to stick around. As long as we are certain on our decisions, it doesn't matter how long the days are. If they are short because we rushed into a lynch with over half the remaining players not agreeing with it, then thats bad. If we come to a decision rather quickly but it's certain as to who and why we are voting someone, it's good. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/03/09 at 18:43:05 0F20232337203C02450 wrote:
Huh? Sword said this KoopZ I also had down in the townie list, shame about him being a power and being murdered. We will need to check back in the topic today, and see what he said, who he accused and what for. I recall KoopZ being suspicious of Tyler throughout the game, and he is still alive. Is that not suspicion of me? I was replying to what i thought happened. I'm not mafia, I'm not a town vigilante, and i didn't kill koopz. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/03/09 at 18:50:06 Well, I'm gonna place a vote on Fababu, he has got some SERIOUS explaining to do about the events of last night, and how Lenny died even though he should of been able to protect him from being killed, proving his statement about being bodyguard and being in the town. Vote : Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:50:40 fuck sake tyler; you fucking suck dude. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:52:25 Why I think Fababu might be mafia. Fababu - Creates fake role to take attention off of Howes. Howes - Claims cop as role because Fababu's claim did not work; Karterfreak supports this. Fababu - Isn't lynched but Howes is. Fababu - Does not body guard anyone at all. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/03/09 at 18:52:53 Is that a compliment? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 18:53:30 Fuck I would not be surprized if there was a role that permitted somone to raise a fucker from the dead ether. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/03/09 at 18:58:49 I'm ready to hear what Fababu has to say because i can't think of anything he could say that would put him in the clear. He claims he is a bodyguard, but doesn't protect our most important known role. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 19:06:26 Cam? Any thoughts? you seem to be taking quite a while I hope your not going to post a fucking shit load of reasons why everyone is a town player. We HAVE to lynch a mafia player tonight or it's GAME OVER. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/03/09 at 19:22:03 I am here, reading, analyzing, and composing a post. Expect one from me very soon. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/03/09 at 19:40:57 God damn, 4 people in one night? I've never seen that in a mafia game, not once. Definitely not good. It's awesome that we've managed to get lynch 2 mafia 2 nights in a row, but honestly I think we were very lucky. It's really important now to let the days span their full length. It's the weekend now, so I should be able to get in more time to post and analyze. I wish I had more of a chance to contribute more on the 2nd day, cuz as it is here on the 3rd day I've made little headway in this game for you guys, but I'm hoping to correct that now. To answer Padzup's allegations: In my experience of playing mafia, townies are almost always lynched the first day. It's almost always better to no-lynch the first day, unless peeps aren't talking and giving us a post record. And I thought I made my premise on that quite clear. Did I not? X number of pages is enough information to make opinions, but X number of pages never enough on the first day to actually kill someone off. I believe others would agree with me we were very lucky on the first day. If it's of any consequence, I acted under the same premise the first mafia game, and I was full town then. Sword, you bring up a point that I knew would be brought up sooner or later, whether this mafia game or the next. Yeah, I got killed off the first couple of mafia days on day 1. Doesn't that put me in an unfair position in the following mafia game regardless of whether I'm town or not? Isn't it possible that the mafia sees others as bigger threats than me for once? Or maybe the mafia might decide to let me live hoping others will come to the same conclusion and lynch me? I know I have not been as active as some would like, so at least give me a chance this day to provide my worth as a townie. I'm gonna leave my defense at that. It's really more important for me to exhorting my time for the town, and not myself. If there's more in particular that you want me to answer (there was a lot in padzup's post), I will, but I'd like to focus on analyzing posts cuz I haven't had as much of a chance to do this as I'd like. If mafia kills me tonight, I want to end at least once with some contribution to the town. Sword's post on Fab pretty much mimics my thoughts. Lenny should've been protected; he had a strong role he claimed, which was spot on. Had he lived at least one more day, we could've got a reading from the previous night since we would've had no doubt he was town and telling the truth. I'd like to hear some answers from Fab. I want to know why In-Hiding is still alive. Way back in day 1, he claimed to have a power role and invited the mafia to kill him, yet he's still here. He hasn't posted much since (understandably however), except a few contrived accusations against Goose, who turned out to be town. Pobre, are you claiming to have a power role? Do you feel this is a good time to start claiming roles, because it seems kinda dangerous. I'd like to know more about this. Ivo, this goes way back to day 1. I wanted to delve into this yesterday, but didn't get the chance. You played a big part in the votes against Etch, and now 2 confirmed mafia members who followed and participated are dead. Why shouldn't we lynch you next? I think your answer to this was very weak in the 2nd day. You basically said you didn't want to risk losing a townie, yet you let your vote remain? Unless I missed a post where you unvoted, this is quite suspicious to me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 19:41:37 752F74767C747E2A2A1F0 wrote:
Told ya so. ;D What the fuck is this shit, 4 deaths? Going into this game, Robin must have felt mafia was outpowered by the town so evened things up making the roles in the game unknown. The mafia has a huge advantage in this respect and as such, the town really has no fucking idea what to do at night. This is some kind of voltorb explosion or attack reflection where the town players get killed by their own action. It's just bullshit. I am all for strategy based play but if winning this thing is dumb luck then fuck this shit. If I want to entertain myself that way I can just play heads or tails. As far as who do we lynch next, we eliminated some possibilities. xP With this kind of power, perhaps there are not many mafia left to kill. If the actual town members can all agree who to vote for, I don't see why we still can't win. I take it the active posters lately are townies since their lives depend on it now. What's there to lose in voting off these no talkers claiming to be town early on? This game is broken. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/03/09 at 19:41:50 I'm not done yet, I'm reviewing everyone's posts one by one as best I can. Hard to take it all at once. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 19:51:38 Howes was the first to vote for Cam. Extol Second. Karterfreak Third. These three voted before Cam said anything at all. Karterfreak and Howes seem to be paired and supporting each other while a couple more mafia players remain incognito, and one remains quiet. My consensus - Cam = legit town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/03/09 at 19:53:22 Wife asked me to help her with some stuff, so I get off the comp. I'll be back tomorrow. Still some people left to go through, and hopefully some responses will have been made since. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 19:54:23 And once both were dead the votes on cam dwindled, retreating mafia? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 19:56:30 We should vote off Fab today. He's just fucking everything over. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 20:00:59 Or Ivo... People claiming to be town and then not really helping out are just as mafia as the real mafia. So we are outnumbered even more... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Lenny on 04/03/09 at 20:08:35 Well, at least in my minimal amount of posts I provided some consensus. It shouldn't be too hard now guys, figure it out. Honko, I just wanna know, wtf do town mayors and hiders do? Good luck everyone. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/03/09 at 20:14:30 What a fucking mess... I really need to reread and reevaluate before I make a solid post. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/03/09 at 20:24:07 Active Player List 1) Darius - Posting solid posts, his votes have been decent so far, I would say TOWN. 2) EnigmaticCam - Extremely suspicious to me for a long time. I have had a gut feeling that he is mafia for a long time but no one believes me. MAFIA 3) Etch - Seems to be the most genuine in his posts out of everyone. TOWN 5) Fababu - Looks like a dumby but TOWN 8) In Hiding - Clear mafia that used money as a way to make it look like he knew what he was doing. I can almost guarantee that his bet that either goose or pobre are mafia was complete fucking bullshit and it is going to be incorrect. MAFIA 9) Ivootjes -He seemed to be confused right before the Howes lynch but I think he was just scared to lose a possible town power. TOWN 14) MVT - TOWN 15) Padzup - big ? 16) Pobre - Very aggressive and plays like a real townie would. TOWN 17) Sportsguy - big ? 18) Sword - town based on his voting habits and reasonings behind these votes TOWN 19) Syzygy - same as sword TOWN MAFIA ENIGMATIC CAM INHIDING ? PADZUP SPORTSGUY TOWN DARIUS ETCH FABABU IVOOTJES MVT POBRE SWORD SYZYGY I really want to hear a lot more from my 2 suspected mafia and my ? guys. These are the 4 people that I am going to be scrutinizing the most throughout day 3. edits added words "the most"...throughout day 3. fixed formatting errors in the chart above |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 20:24:56 When we call some people out now, they give bullshit excuses. You can't pretend to be town and not do anything. Probably would have been better for karterfreak to get lynched without Lenny revealing his role... No way an experienced player would fuck up night actions so badly and recklessly. I got my eye on Tom and Darius. [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/03/09 at 20:27:24 I think Tom and Cam are royally fucked based on their old posts. Especially Tom. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 20:33:58 What's that one role? Town probably all visited the same guy and got killed. [smiley=dead.gif] Talk about unlucky... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/03/09 at 20:37:55 Quote:
I'll explain everything at the end of the game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/09 at 20:44:29 I seriously don't have a clue why you guys think mvt is a bad player, he's been making sense in 99% of his posts. Good job man. Anyway, to get back to the point: EnigmaticCam is mafia. Padzup's story was bullshit, most of it at least, as i'm town, and i think sword's town too, hes been acting like town to me at least. Oh, and i'm a cop who can also choose to protect himself. First night i checked padzup but was blocked, second night i checked enigmaticcam and he was mafia. If he wasn't mafia i would have been fairly convinced that padzup was but theres a bigger chance that he isn't now. Oh, and some thing that clearly shouldn't happen anymore: When i say i'm drunk i usualy am, don't act like i'm mafia when i'm online drunk, this doesn't have influence on the game at all. Stop quoting somebody else and than act like i said it padzup. quote me, add your conclusions about me, and let me react. Don't make up bullshit like 9 times in a row. And with that said: Vote EnigmaticCam |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 20:47:21 :o Padzup is the kinda guy to pretend to be town with long posts like that, lol. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Extol on 04/03/09 at 20:48:28 FOUND A MAFIA too bad i cant say who it is or how i found him. :-X wow what a night for mafia huh :-/ see, i was town like i said, but it doesnt matter now. :P good luck town, looks like youre gonna need it |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/09 at 20:49:01 And i'm going to bed now, expect a bigger post from me tomorrow as it's almost 7 in the morning here. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/03/09 at 20:49:59 Extol, i also found a mafia. :P With some help, but at least its confirmed now, or at least to me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 20:55:44 If Cam were mafia; think of it like this two confirmed mafia players voted for him before he even said anything. Cams nature is to get lynched first day. Why would they do something so stupid? (The Mafia I mean.) And Ivo, you seem to be making retarded decisions, the etch bandwagon, and extol being mafia (which was a dumb move on all our parts) It's a shame extol knows who is a mafia player and can't tell anyone. Fuck sake, and I don't believe you found out cam was mafia Ivo. Prove to me by showing me the pm. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 20:56:15 So let me get this shit straight. Fababu said he was protector so mafia role blocker probably cock blocked him, ergo Lenny died. Most likely scenario I guess, still a chance he didn't send in a night action. xP Ivo checks out, Cam has definitely got to be mafia. Vote: EnigmaticCam Town needs to be careful with night actions. We can't risk losing 4 guys a night. If we quietly lynch mafia one by one we can win, right? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by KoopZ on 04/03/09 at 21:07:30 aaww wtf, i was hoping to keep on being able to play. this is COMPLETELY not what i was expecting. well town, i hope you think i did all right for my first game. good luck, wish i was there to keep helping you all out. :( |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/03/09 at 21:10:50 4F60636377607C42050 wrote:
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Just a reminder. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 21:11:26 HONKOS SECRET MAFIA, LYNCH THAT MAWFUAKA! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 21:18:01 5976757561766A54130 wrote:
Mafia knows who all the roles are, more likely a town makes mistakes early on. Doesn't mean we should kill him immediately, lol. Not like we lynched Extol, you were suspicious of plenty of people who are probably also town. It's natural for town to be confused at the start. We don't need a modkill. xP |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/03/09 at 21:37:12 Shit, I've been found out. Vote: Honko |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 2] - SOOOOONANSU! Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 21:40:38 5376657E6264170 wrote:
pffft More like, I am going to hide behind enemy lines while I let my goons kill off the town on night 2. A lot of shit was said through day 1, if you were still unsure to who is town then idk what's wrong. I talked to you many a time online, you aren't stupid. That alone hints to me your silence is a sign you are mafia. mk64 we can be bros but this is war motherfucker [smiley=evil.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/03/09 at 22:16:37 507F7C7C687F635D1A0 wrote:
I think you misread my post. When I said "look who's alive" I was talking about Ivo and Cam. That was irrelevant to the rest of the post. I don't need to reference a list to say that I am alive ::) All it was at that point was a quick summary of my thoughts and just wanted to point out that nobody who I suspected as mafia died/turned out to be town. 7D52515145524E70370 wrote:
The only mistake I made was posting my quotes in the wrong order. All I said was that last night's deaths don't necessarily mean I am wrong though I will absolutely admit that it is poor evidence and as such was just pointing out something small. But like you said I am probably not even a priority anyway. I thought I had mentioned that in posting the list as well. I don't suspect you, I was using it as an example as to why we probably shouldn't listen to Matt post-death. Sorry if I didn't communicate that properly. 774851514A545B4D3E0 wrote:
What? If I accidentally misquoted I never saw it when writing the post (or in reading it over) and I apologize. There are tons of quotes in there and I guess I lost track of a couple of them. Ivo I am not buying that you are a cop yet. Firstly if you are mafia you can get rid of Cam who is highly suspect in almost everyone's view anyway to 1. ensure your spot as cop and 2. keep Fababu (assuming he is mafia) from dying. From there you can explain yourself not dying by saying that Fab protected you which gives the both of you town cred and you two alone could probably sweep. Secondly it is convenient that you only make one accusation. While it is likely that you were roleblocked Night 1 it allows you to lynch a probable mafia while looking honest at the same time. To expand on this, there is no valid reason to go for Cam without knowing for sure he is mafia, else you would be offed pretty much instantly if he somehow turned up to be town. Since this is only one person there is no way to determine whether you are a cop who scanned Cam or whether you are a mafia teammate. That I am sure will be determined later on. Either way this means that Cam must be mafia since Ivo would not risk making such a move without being 100% positive. Even more retarded than sacrificing a fellow mafia would be sacrificing the both of you needlessly. That or you are making the stupidest/riskiest play I have ever seen. For anyone trying to debunk the above let me state that 1. If you bring up previous instances of mafia sacrifice, there has been no such thing. Howes sealed his fate in his very first post and Matt was an idiot in general. Everyone had thought there would be mafia sacrifice but so far our lynches have been mostly through analysis and not through mafia offering them up to boost our confidence; and 2. I am not accusing Ivo to be mafia for this specific post but am merely acknowledging that it doesn't prove his allegiance either way. 2130051206050314230912030C05600 wrote:
And I thought that several other people had explained why no-lynch was not a good idea at the time. You still didn't change your vote. And no, your previous actions do not clear your name this game. Hiding behind them only gives you less credit. For the reasons stated above and those in my earlier post I am thoroughly convinced that Cam is mafia. vote: EnigmaticCam |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/03/09 at 22:20:17 And since it wouldn't fit in the above post let me mention that I am going to bed since it is rather late. Do not prompt me to answer "immediately" since I will be gone for somewhere around 14 hours (at least) and even when I get back I will likely have lots to catch up on. 'Night. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Fababu on 04/03/09 at 22:51:51 10757475440 wrote:
I haven't lied you, I'm the bodyguard. Last night I protected Lenny, so the only possible option that I've in mind is that the blocker of mafia have roleblocked me tonight, so I couldn't protected Lenny and they could be able to kill him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Fababu on 04/03/09 at 23:03:43 153A39392D3A26185F0 wrote:
I haven't faked my role, Pobre. The situation is quite easy of understand: Mafia knows that Lenny and I have the roles that we have claimed. At day they couldn't do anything, except voting against Matt. But at night they could kill Lenny, blocking me. They could get a power role easy killed and they will bring the suspection again on me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/03/09 at 23:06:21 I feel like this is the point in the game where town may look back now and find reasons to lynch other town members because they made a mistake. I am a forgiving man and with all the crazy shit that has happened, a lot of stuff has come to the light. I don't know how many mafia are left but if everyone who is town can just put their differences aside and focus on who we need to kill, we can keep lynching a mafia each day. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/03/09 at 23:17:12 Fababu, first of all, you're shit at english; but your not that shit; stop drinking absinthe. secondly, no the mafia does not know what our roles are; this is a closed game; The 3rd; We killed off the god father 1st day so he could not have scanned you, Fourthly: we killed off the goon on 2nd day who had checked kmacc first night; so he could not have confirmed your role claim. Fifthly; Are you mafia or town? if you are, say the secret code. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Fababu on 04/03/09 at 23:35:03 Lenny and I are townies; so our roleclaims are right. What adavntage could take a townie roleclaiming a fake town role? Mafia knows that we are townies, so mafia believed in our claims and they used their roles in consequence roleblocking me and killing Lenny. And about my english... well, I'm sorry it's horrible; I try to do the best I can. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 01:03:36 Oh my lord shut up about my post count. It seems some people are just looking for an excuse to make me look suspicious because they have nothing to go on. Thursday, all I did was leave my vote with Matt. I was certain he was mafia and was out all evening at my dads house and when I came home the lynch had been made. Yesterday the game was locked so yeah... And I don't see how that makes me suspicious in anyway. Anyone who can't see that is a fucktard. MVT knows I'm town just like I know he is town. At least we can put differences aside as teammates trying to win this game... Anyhow, 4 town losses, how is that possible....? I don't feel like a have a good lead of any sort like with Matt and Howes. Sword, please just.. don't post, yours are all useless and you continue to question me. Oh and guess what, I'm going to my dads today so won't be back until the evening so I WON'T BE POSTING FOR SOME TIME. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 01:48:42 I can see there is suspicion growing on me. Fine, keep it up. It just makes you more mafia. Umm, I'm suspcious for thinking that goose was mafia? No, I bet that him OR Pobre is mafia - I can still very easily be right. I did say he was acting less suspicious through his voting. Either way, he's an awful town player. Look at who i've been saying is safe and not safe. Through the game i've said that Extol is safe and Koops was safe. Now i'm fired up, how the fuck can we lose 4 players in a day. My sus list in order is Pobre - to be frank, i'd prefer you to be killed on the basis you're a lose cannon (something i've said from the start) Fab - sorry bruv, but if you can't roleblock then you deserve to be suspected more MVT - for switching his suspicion towards me Tim - always sus (reasons covered by everyone else) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 01:51:28 In Hiding; who did you roleblock last night? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/04/09 at 02:18:48 I'll be playing golf today, so i won't be here for at least the next 5 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/09 at 03:30:51 Pobre, you are fucking retard, i have NEVER EVER said ANYWHERE that i thought that extol was suspicious. Combine this with the stories that are all made up by padzup (of things i also didn't say anywhere) and it makes me look fucking bad. Seriously you were the one who said that koopz was "teaming up" with darius and tom. You were the first to start the goose bandwagon on day1. You were the one to lie about your role claiming that tom had to reveal his role. You were the player who spammed the fucking topic making it extremely hard for us to filter the good posts from the bad posts. etc etc etc etc etc. I've admitted that i made a mistake first day, that's it. Now it's time to catch up on the topic and give everything a careful read as i got angry when i saw pobre spamming bullshit about me again. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/09 at 03:34:21 Tom, do you seriously think mvt is suspicious? o_0 Man, with all these good townies died i'm left with the people who don't have a clue at all -_- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 03:48:35 Ivo, i didn't but he's starting to think i'm sus. Anyone who puts suspicion my way effectively makes them mafia in my eyes (does that make logical sense?). I didn't roleblock anyone, thats not my power role. If you read my posts properly then you would know what my power role is. Unfortunately it looks as if the mafia have worked that out before you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/09 at 04:20:09 No, your first sentence doesn't make logical sense. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 05:22:21 What reasons are those Tom? As to why you think I'm suspicious? /you'reanoob |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/04/09 at 06:20:50 313B383B253B420 wrote:
All I'm trying to do is get you to talk some more, because I believe you are town and, quite frankly, we need all the help we can get at the moment, because we are on a day where the lynch is either going to make us or break us, so input from everyone should help. People are going to be suspicious of you if you don't post, and I know how this is simply because it happened to me early game from the start of Day 1. I know it isn't your fault as to why you can't, but people aren't going to let it drop. You seem to be complaining at me because I want you to participate more, which is just weird. Sword, please just.. don't post, yours are all useless and you continue to question me. Is this based out of your anger for me questioning you or do you just see my insight as completely useless? If it's the latter I'm sorry, but I'm just trying to help. InHiding, suspecting MVT I find rather strange. What exactly has he done to be suspect in your eyes? He is the most probable townie here. Same goes for Tim. What has he done to warrant suspicion? (besides the post issue) I can agree on the Fababu suspicion, everyone shares that, though. I have read what Fababu said, and I can understand that the mafia could have done that to frame him, and give him a bad name. Pobre being suspicious to you is just wtf. What you say about him being a "Lose Cannon" is no warrant to have him lynched. As for Ivootjes jumping out and saying EnigamicCam is mafia, I wish I could believe immediately and jump into that one, but I don't know what degree I trust Ivo for now. I'll think about this today. Unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/04/09 at 07:07:24 I don't think i have much more to say this day, and i'll be away for the most time next 24 hours. I hope we lynch enigmaticcam today. Some people thought he was mafia but now i say it it seems like everybody has changed their mind? If i was mafia i wouldn't screw up my buddies on purpose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 07:20:03 Tom you are suspecting all the wrong people. Your mafia bro. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 07:25:18 6D717674786A7E6128190 wrote:
I can pretty much say that everyone on that list is more than likely town. I think you just picked the townies and made a list as them being suspicious. None of the real mafia are on that list. Also the reasons you give for each of those people are hilariously BAD. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 07:28:39 19282D333C39490 wrote:
So several people explain why no lynch is not a good idea the first day, and because I disagree this makes me mafia? It's merely circumstantial - we got lucky the first day to lynch a mafia. Last mafia game I played, I played the exact same way: amass votes on people to get them to talk, vote no lynch once everyone has talked. I play the same way this time and because we got lucky and lynched a mafia the first day this makes me mafia? That doesn't make any sense. 7C435A5A415F5046350 wrote:
A cop that can choose to protect himself? I've never seen that before, sounds made up to me. Cops are people who investigate, and Doctors are people who can protect. Never is there a combination of the 2. A bold move on your part, I but I fear it's hindered by this made up role of yours. 762C77757F777D29291C0 wrote:
Possible theory, except for one thing - see below: 2403131703100E620 wrote:
If Fab protected Lenny and was role blocked, he would've known it! It wouldn't be something that he's "in mind", otherwise unsure of. He would've received a PM from honko stating that he was mafia. That's how it worked in the past mafia games, why would it be any different this time just because the roles are unknown? This seals the deal for me on Fab. Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 07:31:19 That seals the deal for you too cam, you are mafia. Fababu is town. Although he may not be the best town player it is critical that we keep every town alive. Cam you really are not good at making yourself look town. Both Inhiding and EnigmaticCam are mafias. I suggest that we kill Tom during the day because he has hinted many times about some sort of power role. Then I suggest that the vigilantes kill Cam. 1-2 knockout punch. VOTE INHIDING |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 07:31:31 Quote:
That should read, "He would've received a PM from honko stating he was role blocked." Sorry, typing too fast for my own good. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 07:35:12 If Fab is town, why would he lie about his role? Explain that to me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 07:50:20 Lol, why couldn't fab have been role blocked??? Your logic is flawed. Fab could have body guarded Lenny and been role blocked. Then Honko would have sent a PM to Fababu saying that he had been roleblocked. Honko is not going to tell Fababu who role blocked him, that would be stupid. Your wrong man. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 07:54:30 No, Fab said he was possibly role blocked. He's not 100% sure. The problem with that is he would know for sure if he were role blocked - he would've received a pm from honko telling him exactly that. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 07:55:39 It's not about who role blocked Fab - it's the fact that he doesn't know for sure when he should if he really attempted to. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 08:08:42 I think you are being way too picky about one word he used. He obviously isn't that great at english, so you saying that this one word is the key to him being mafia is pretty weak. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 08:12:46 You might be right on that one, my bad. I forget not everyone here speaks english that well. Word use or not though, the gist I get from him is that he doesn't know for sure if he was role blocked. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Darius on 04/04/09 at 08:16:40 Etch seems to think that I'm being silent and sitting back and Sword thinks I'm not doing as much as last game. Sword's allegation that I'm not pushing and prodding people as much also contradicts Etch's, in which he thinks that me saying we need more from him, Tim and Cam is somehow a cover for me. I know Etch doesn't like ranting about bullshit but I don't like it when people don't talk. I've called out plenty of people for making illogical comments, not following up on statements they've made previously or for not posting at all and I'm going to keep doing it. Pobre: Ivo is right about Extol; in fact, Ivo hasn't even mentioned Extol's name until today. Read people's posts before you say things about them. Also, why wouldn't mafia vote for Cam on Day 1 when he hadn't even been online since the game started? That's the perfect time to put those votes on, distance themselves from Cam and still have almost no danger of getting him lynched. Ivo: You're a cop AND Kmacc is a cop? Also, why have you said that people have stopped thinking Cam is mafia? MVT, Padzup and Etch all said they thought Cam is mafia and none of them have changed their mind. Fababu: Did you get a roleblock PM or not? Cam: You're not suspicious just because you supported no lynch. You're suspicious because I don't think you actually said or did anything that wasn't neutral until Day 3. When you finally did make a substantial post, a lot of it just followed what other people said - you even admitted that your thoughts mimicked Sword's. Your Fababu accusation is exactly what the mafia would say if they were setting him up for a lynch with the Lenny kill and letting 'mafia' slip into that sentence instead of 'roleblock' is very suspect. I'm not making any judgment on Fababu until I hear for sure whether he was roleblocked. Also, as I've pointed out above, both Howes and Matt also put classic distancing votes on you on Day 1. Tom: MVT is mafia because he suspects you? Tim is just 'always sus'? I agree with MVT: you've picked 4 people who are all likely town. Do you honestly think that MVT is mafia based on anything he's said or done this game apart from voting for you? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 08:27:30 Well I wish I could adequately defend myself on the first 2 days of neutrality, but there's not much I can do. It was a really bad time to be as sick as I was (I'm still recovering), so I missed out most of the end of day 1 and most of day 2 completely. This meant sporadic visits to the thread, so usually when I came most of the what could be thought of was already stated. There are only so many possibilities. Give me at least one day to make up for that, as I plan (and hopefully have proven thus far) to participate and make the necessary allegations from this day forward. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/04/09 at 08:44:10 I know I'm trying to call the sympathy vote, but geez, I was so sick last week I had to stay in bed all day at the hotel in freakin' vegas! I think I deserve a little leniency, lol :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/04/09 at 08:47:57 [3] EnigmaticCam - Ivootjes, Etch, Padzup [2] Fababu - Pobre, (Sword), EnigmaticCam [1] In Hiding - MVT With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. The day ends when a player reaches 7 votes, or in 55 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by AlexPenev on 04/04/09 at 09:04:58 6362646B7C0F0 wrote:
Hider is something Honko might have made up, but Mayor is a stock mafia role. You can find it in the mafia wiki: mayor can step in and prevent a lynch at the end of the day. But maybe this role was Honkofied to make it more poke-exciting. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 09:11:54 can i ask a question? Why have i not been voted off yet? Why are the people i picked clearly town? Right now im thinking the safe list is me, darius and, thats it. Town please get ur shit together. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 09:15:55 Tom you are playing like an absolute cock at the moment. Vote: Inhiding Sick of your BS. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 09:40:51 Someone must have deleted a post because my last post was not on the top of the 2nd page. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/04/09 at 09:43:41 I deleted Goose's post because his vote was showing up in mafia.cgi and I didn't want to get confused later and lynch myself. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 09:43:49 24383F3D3123372861500 wrote:
Let me give you an example of your logic. Tom Says: Quote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 09:48:48 7E415858435D5244370 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 10:29:16 If there are any more than two mafia players left in this game, it is broken in favor of the mafia...big time. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/04/09 at 10:38:04 People should stop calling my game broken before my feelings get hurt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Darius on 04/04/09 at 11:04:23 Sword, I've looked over your last two posts again: first you say that Fababu has some serious explaining to do and vote for him, then you say that you can see how the mafia could have done it to frame him and unvote. It seems to me like Fababu gave a short explanation which said exactly what you'd expect him to say: that he'd been roleblocked and so his protection failed. Do you really think that's an adequate explanation, even though it doesn't sound like he got a roleblock PM? How did you go from 'serious explaining' to backing down without question? Tom, are you asking why we haven't lynched you? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 14:40:43 How convenient that once mafia players get called out for being mafia they jump on the defense. Like I said, I don't know how many mafia are left but if they start trying to vote off town players isn't that a give away? Wake the fuck up and smell the coffee town! We don't know the roles in this game so if some of you decided to visit a mafia, there is a good chance you died doing so. Also, a vigilante probably killed off one of our own because you were too fucking stupid and impatient to make a confirmed kill. Take the feelings and grudges out of the equation. If we want to avoid a repeat of last night be very careful of what you do, can't afford risking another slaughter. You mafia guys are talking big but I don't see any votes. Mafia can't put in votes against themselves at this point, too much to gamble. Calling out confirmed townies seals the deal further. ENIGMATIC CAM - Ivo's stuff and night actions support his claim. INHIDING - Awfully fishy, hanging out with Clark is really rubbing off in this thread, not townish at all. PADZUP - Too much effort to be a mafia bc he is actually voting for the right people, he is the kind of guy who wants to fuck you over but for now I don't see him as an immediate threat. SPORTSGUY - Just a town guy wanting to get his facts straight, it's good he was suspicious of others early on because it helped fuel the convo to get rid of some mafias. His voting patterns and discussion have been pro town thus far so it be pretty weird if he turned out to be mafia, not a threat atm. DARIUS - This guy is hiding some serious shit, I swear he has a hand in something dirty, lynch him later. ETCH - Honesty is my policy, I only try to point town in the right direction. FABABU - Please excuse his poor english, the night actions add up and his terrible lying isn't apparent, we shouldn't lynch him today. IVOOTJES - Like Sportsguy, suspicious of other townies early on but learned the truth eventually, his night actions add up and I don't see him as a threat. Ironically, the Etch bandwagon helped elucidate some of the roles. MVT - He's townie, hasn't been acting like an asshole mafia and has gone after the right people, his brain is screwed in correctly. POBRE - Excuse his rants, maybe he ran out of Xanax briefly. Goose and him are both town in case none of you dumb shits know yet. You are wasting the towns time and improving the chances of a mafia victory. We need to kill almost definitely mafia players, not ones on just a hunch. SWORD - I feel like he is a town that means well but his posts leave little to the imagination. I don't know what he really thinks yet but hasn't aligned himself with anyone which sits well with me, not a threat for now. SYZYGY - Awfully aloof, if he is mafia he is doing a great job staying under the radar. Like Tom, he can lie through his teeth but I see Tom as a bigger target simply because his posts are stupid. At the same time, Tom could easily be town but without access to reading the thread much or whatever he probably doesn't have a good grasp of the game and is doing what mafia tells him to do. Tim's not a threat for now. If my fellow townies don't vote off Cam, Darius or Tom there is something seriously wrong. Given what Ivo said, Cam seems like the safest kill. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 15:03:15 hmmm I dont know which way we should go, Tom or Cam? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 15:05:07 Unvote Vote: In Hiding Sticking with this vote. Don't care which team he's on; he isn't helping us at all. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 15:07:04 Well it is going to be tough for everyone to decide, but we CAN NOT split the vote between Tom and Cam. Town as a whole needs to be decisive to get things done. That means if we are voting Tom out, than the guys on the cam bandwagon need to jump off. If we vote Cam off, than the guys on the Tom bandwagon need to jump off. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 15:09:24 I feel like we got more concrete reasons to go after Cam. There is a chance he is a no power role mafia to distract attention from others, hence all the defensive posts. Tom is kinda a gamble but there could be good reasons for how he has been playing, hard to say. If Ivo's argument holds true it really puts town out ahead. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Darius on 04/04/09 at 15:13:38 Etch, I still don't get why you think I'm hiding something. I think Cam is incredibly suspicious and Tom attacking MVT is founded on nothing whatsoever. I'm also still waiting for Fababu to tell us whether he got a roleblock PM or not. At the moment, Tom is mainly suspicious for me for reacting badly to others suspecting him. There's stronger evidence against Cam. Vote: EnigmaticCam |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 15:21:04 If you were town, I figured you be jumping on this sooner. ;D Good man, if Cam dies and is not town, God help us. We don't know all the roles so there is no telling if some of the night actions may give us the wrong idea. Like a scan says a town is actually mafia or whatever. Thus proving Robin's game is far shittier than I thought, lol. Tom is a douche, he is definitely high up on the hit list but if Ivo's claim which seems legit, we might as well lynch Cam. Regardless, killing either guy gives us more information but if I sense mafia start voting for Cam, they either gave up or are trying to divert the town's action. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 15:26:58 what was "ivo's claim" again. I have reread and I feel like I am missing it somewhere [smiley=flush.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 15:32:04 Hi I am back. Still don't get why people can't see I'm town. Anyway, unvote. I don't believe Tom is mafia even though he's being a tard. Maybe he didn't get a shag last night ::) Unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/04/09 at 15:34:28 First let me say that while we should make a decision on who to lynch we shouldn't end the day as quickly as we did yesterday. Also keep in mind that if everyone is in agreement on somebody's lynch it means that mafia wants to lynch this person as well. Ivo: I still am unsure what you mean about my "bullshit" stories since as far as I know I didn't make anything up. I may have made a few too many assumptions on your part and like I said I apologize. I missed something from your earlier roleclaim and taking it into account now I am more inclined to believe you are town. However the only other person with a roleclaim of a variant on a normal role was Howes. Given that you have not tried to associate your powers with a certain Pokemon like Howes did, though, it is more likely that you aren't lying. And as a note: tonight, unless you can get Fab (if he is town) to guard you, I wouldn't bother wasting your time protecting yourself since mafia can just roleblock you out of protection and kill you. If Fab guards you they will have to roleblock him and risk wasting their kill on your protected self or scoring the kill if you scan. Etch: Ivo could be an insane/paranoid cop but if I am right in thinking which Pokemon he is I'm more inclined to think he is a normal cop. But I am also doubtful that Honko would have given us two normal cops. MVT: Whom would we learn from most in lynching them? If we're going to lynch Tom we need to get him to talk more first. If more people put pressure on Cam he will probably start to say something that isn't a repeat of something already said in the thread as well. Pobre said something about Cam 'selfdestructing' earlier (I take this to mean he is a Bomb) and if he is to be trusted then Cam is far more dangerous at night and should be lynched asap. In this case it would be a good idea to get something out of both of them and then have the vig(s) go for Tom tonight. If Fab is telling the truth (and if Tom is mafia) then this means that the mafblocker can only go for either Fab or whoever he thinks is the vig (or Ivo if he is cop) so one of them will be killed. If there are any protectors they had better choose wisely. Tonight is going to be big for night-actions. If any vigs fuck up again like last night, town will surely lose. MVT: Ivo doesn't make a formal roleclaim but rather mentions it on the side in one of his posts. If Pobre can confirm that Cam is a Bomb I say we should go for him. In any case we need more information from both. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 15:36:53 Unvote Vote: Enigmatic Cam |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 15:39:13 Ivo said he was role blocked which is why he couldn't scan Padzup. After the fall out of the first day, the Etch band wagon must have made him look like a stupid mafia target. My gut tells me a town blocked him in fear of him carrying out the kill or doing a mafia action. A role blocker has not come forward and since Ivo said this before he did, it gives credibility to his argument. I don't think mafia can afford a loss now and so far, people coming forward for town have been trying to ensure a kill. I want to be sure Ivo is really 100% in on this because we don't need to lynch asap. We need to talk shit out before making a decision but killing him or Tom seems the best bet. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 15:43:51 I want everyone to go through In Hiding's last 50 post; sure enough; you will find that only 20 post from bottom to top this guy is already fucking attacking me and Goose ruthlessly; he seems to be all over the place; If he's town; he's just a burden who should be dealt with now; and if he's mafia; then we got this game in the bag; if we lose another townie; I've got extra measures that I'm ready to take during the night phase; so do not fear my children; with me, you are immortals. Here is a history of In hiding's post in this thread. Quote:
He is agreeing with Kooper, why? Quote:
Resonable intuition? No wait, he agreed with him even before that, Quote:
Thats three times he agreed with a townie based on nothing but intuition. And he had already started attacking me and Goose and still suspects us till this day. Quote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 15:48:55 Tom hasn't been reading this thread a lot. Work blocked this site or whatever. Is it possible he vig killed Goose? As town in the past, he made good decisions but if he isn't mafia, he royally fucked up. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/04/09 at 15:50:46 I meant asap in terms of Days and Nights. What I was saying is that town can't risk another night like last night or mafia will win. Four deaths doesn't make sense and there are absolutely no more than two vigs. Mafia did not kill two people Night 1 so this means that somehow mafia made at least one extra kill. If there was a town-aligned Bomb who was responsible for last night's deaths he would have come out by now and asked to be lynched for the sake of the town so if there is a Bomb role it is surely mafia-aligned. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 15:53:05 The bomb role would surely be suicidal though. I can only assume it's a total town fuck up by the assassin roles or w/e they are. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 15:53:12 122326383732420 wrote:
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 15:55:30 What's up with this post lag? I can't view times post yet. Edit: Nevermind. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/04/09 at 15:58:38 1F30333327302C12550 wrote:
I feel obligated to note that Tom also asked me if I was mafia early on. When I replied I asked him why he chose to and he basically responded "no im just pushing buttons [smiley=lolk.gif]", which goes back to Lenny's point about mafia accusing others and then revoking them without any real reason for either one. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 16:06:32 There is a chance Ivo is lying to get us to lynch Cam but his posts sound more town. It would be a fucking disgrace if Cam was town. Mafia shouldn't be so risky so why else would Ivo come forward with this information if he didn't think it would help? Town should be fucking angry if they are on the chopping block!!! These mafia guys are acting all apathetic to dodge the bullet imo. Fuck xP |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:06:47 LOL, padzup and Pobre and mafia standard. Pobre, your post on the last page has ABSOLUTELY NO SUBSTANCE. Read it anyone - how can he have the cheek to quote me to try and retort when he has nothing to say. Point in question - read from page one - have I defended or said that my feelings are that x,y,z are town? (extol, koops etc?). Have I voted for Mafia? Yes.. lol wtf? Have I sworn on my life? Have I admitted before anyone else I have a power poketown role? Yes! Pobre is mafia. If he's not then he's a mug and has started a campaign against a vivid townie. MVT I only voted for you cause you voted for me - only a mafia would vote for me. Vote for me - I dare both of you. Why are you assuming my role is a simplistic role block or vig role? Amateurs. Looks at my track record - if i fuck up its because someone has got to close to me. If thats the case then Darius is the mafia. I think he's been town enough for me to believe him but he could be a next level mafia. Darius i'm not outting you - just covering my ass - as much as I want you to be town cause you help out i've got to wonder. Numbers are dwinddling and stats are going against you (ala everyone else too). You could have been sent as the mafia mole. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:07:58 Your role is town vigilante, no? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 16:08:45 Tom you aren't comfortable being pushed into a corner are you? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 16:09:21 Ignore Pobre Tom, I like you are suspicious of Darius as well. idk, just try and act more genuine bc if we can take you at your word I will spare your family ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:09:24 @Pobre - no you prick - read my posts. Unvote Vote Pobre - for purely being a cockoff and either not reading my posts or choosing too (mafia) edit to point at pobre - otherwise the post would look at the two posters above. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:09:27 Make a fucking decision Tom, you call me a loose cannon? read your own fucking post you rapist! My post has substance; Your a loose cannon for things just like this; saying things without backing them up with anything. All your doing is confusing people if your town, or coming off as a mafia player if your mafia! you play like absolute shit! MAFIA HUNTER, MY ASS! Why, or how do my post have no substance? look at your own sodding post "mate"! -_- Edit Reason - To post more reasons why In Hiding is shit at this. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 16:11:13 Pobre is town, like it or not Tom. The main issue is voting off Cam or not. Don't go off track here, ffs. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/04/09 at 16:11:51 Darius, the problem with Fababu is the language barrier, which makes it hard for him to put his thoughts across. His explanation couldn't be any more detailed. except for answering your question, as to whether he received a PM stating whether he was roleblocked or not. Even if he is mafia, I feel he isn't as much as a threat as we imply. I'm not eliminating the fact that he could be mafia, I just don't think we should let what happened last night with him and the bodyguard thing take over today. The more dangerous ones are EnigamicCam and InHiding. Reading through the recent opinions, it seems that the most of us want to go ahead and kill EnigamicCam. From this we learn a few things. 1. He was mafia 2. Ivo isn't lying about his role 3. Who of the remaining players are possible mafia Lynching Tom gives us practically nothing, as all he has done in game is point out how he feels either Goose or Pobre are mafia (Goose showed to be town, and Pobre being mafia wouldn't be logical at this stage). He also throws around random questions and accusations but I think it's clear he hasn't been following the thread as much as everyone else. EnigamicCam would be the safer of the two options. He is more dangerous that Tom at the moment, and Tom can be dealt with later. We would learn more from lynching Cam than we would InHiding. Not going to vote for now ; this day needs to span out as much as it can. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:12:37 substance is what you are supposedly basing your posts on - i'm not. I've not said anything but hunches and gut feeling - cause thats what I do best. I read people - their feelings, attitudes and words. You're trying to out me on some "evidence" but thats just flawed. Seriously your critique of me is nothing short of embarassing to the point of incriminating for yourself. If you're town you're sooo shit I pray you dont play again. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:15:02 Every decision you made was based on a hunch, you've even directly said it was a hunch couple of times; don't lie. Tom; I know you are mafia. and I am IMMORTAL. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:17:33 Mayby if you dumbasses would fucking take my word that I'm town, 4 townies would not have been killed last night you FUCKING IMBECILES. I CANNOT BE KILLED AT NIGHT; IS THIS NOT FUCKING OBVIOUS TO ANY OF YOU?! I KEEP HINTING AND HINTING CATCH ON YOU FUCKING MORONS! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:18:21 If I am voted off - please please please - Town - look distinctly at those who voted for me - they HAVE TO BE MAFIA. No one in their right mind would play me out to be mafia on the facts. I've said Pobre or Goose was mafia. Fine, Goose was Town but Pobre can still be Mafia and based on the first 3 pages its pretty obvious why I took the bet. MVT - why are you sooo sure Pobre is town? ffs, who ever has a role and can scan or work shit out please be more obvious. I'm reading into anything said about anyone other than me cause I will have to believe the town folk are setting up the mafia. This is how I know you're not town Pobre cause if you had "knowledge" then you would know i'm not mafia and wouldn't try to put suspicion on me for a second. Pobre - simple put your top three mafia names - no explanation - just the names please. MVT - please do the same. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 16:18:54 substance is what you are supposedly basing your posts on - i'm not. I've not said anything but hunches and gut feeling - cause thats what I do best. I read people - their feelings, attitudes and words. You're trying to out me on some "evidence" but thats just flawed. Seriously your critique of me is nothing short of embarassing to the point of incriminating for yourself. If you're town you're sooo shit I pray you dont play again. So you just... don't bother to actually read posts but make irrational decision because you "feel" that someone is "suspicious" without actually taking things into consideration? And Tom, stop acting like you are god of this game, not everyone plays the game like you and frankly you are coming off badly. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:19:33 7A1F1E1F2E0 wrote:
ahhh... now I see where you guys are heading with this entire Cam thing. Good thinking pad! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:19:44 OMG - POBRE IS MAFIA - HE IS CLAIMING MY ROLE AFTER I HAVE. goose - get your money ready. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 16:20:51 I voted for you earlier Tom that clearly makes me mafia. But you thought I was sus so you are mafia. Oh yeah we are mafia buddies, we are really cool. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:21:13 Top Three suspects? No order, Fababu Cam You |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:22:47 Wow, Tom; lol; you just outted yourself dude. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:22:51 Tim, i play it how i play it, i read every post - where did I say I wouldn't or dont? (are all the americans drunk tonight?) I'm simply saying that applying logic to this game is not the way forward - neither are stats. I prefer to go on my experience of reading english (which when broken down is all you have). But to consider that people who are smart at this game will counter "write" to confuse me. Or play to my disadvantage by writing copious amounts of shit to confuse me - aka pobre. Look at my stats - am I so shit going on my "hunches"? nah - so dont be a mug and vote against me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:23:37 pobre - how? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:24:02 No way such a role would be given to a town player. Absolutely no way. [smiley=lolk.gif] Edit - I am ditto. :] I copied In Hiding yesterday. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/04/09 at 16:25:01 So I'm American and you "so shit going by your hunches" :-? Also, if I were to claim I couldn't be killed at night, would that make me mafia in your eyes? If so you are just making assumptions because there could easily be more than one and roles with slightly different functions which are similar on the surface. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:25:36 COMING FROM THE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB LOL - HOW MANY GAMES OF MAFIA HAVE YOU PLAYED POBRE? lol@waffleburger. http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/76/m_0359290caec2b2d65ae95c4570b11fc3.jpg |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:27:01 Koopz, Extol; or Goose. One of them tried to Vigilante Tom last night; and ended up getting ass raped by him. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/04/09 at 16:29:58 Sorry guys, i haven't around much today. First off Etch has brought his A game today. After reading the last few pages Cam is the most suspicious and most likely mafia imo. I'm going to hold off on voting for him now because we're two votes away from ending the day. Pobre and Tom need to get it together.[smiley=chairshot.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:30:56 lol tom, you think any of these dumbasses will take your word over mines? tonight, another 4 of you will die whether or not you lynch me. GG Tom, GG. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:36:41 You can try to guess my role but you're wrong - no one has tried to kill me yet. Pobre - its not about who they believe - its about people wanting to win. Even if you and goose had both been town from the start i'd have voted for you cause i think you're weak players. After the last few pages of attacks on me its clear you're trying to push the focus on to me or away from the mafia. Pobre - who is mafia then oh clever one? lol |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/04/09 at 16:41:19 2 votes away from ending the day, seems the general view is to get rid of Cam. But do we want to end this early? We can learn more from this day, don't vote anymore on him for now, we need to get more out of this day, otherwise we are going to get killed. Pobre just admitted part of his role and he also linked it to as to why there were 4 deaths yesterday. That's something that I'm going to be wondering about ... So, as a whole, who do we trust? It seems we are all generally suspicious of EnigamicCam, Fababu, InHiding and Darius. Surely sifting through this list will help us out. The night actions of tonight will be the deciding factor, and they will be very critical. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:47:07 Sword; stop pushing for extra leverage. PLZ. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:47:20 In my situation I look at consistency as a key, anyone who messes around with that is "reacting" aka lying and trying to cover it up. hmmm, wonder who that fits.. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:49:47 Tom; you don't do shit but point fingers, confuse people, be cocky, and play like a retard. Perhaps you're not getting enough prostitots in your diet lately. [smiley=happy.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:51:17 I AM MAFIA Observe In Hiding, observe how hard my bonds with people are. Observe how even though I admit to being Mafia I will not get voted off. Observe. GG. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:51:36 when you are as good as me then you can yap like a doggy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:53:18 Vote: EnigmaticCam So, whos going to deal the death blow? :] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:56:05 ffs, he just admitted he's mafia. Its the ultimate brag for him. Punish him. Vote Pobre. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 16:56:09 We knew Lenny was a sure bet to die after revealing who a mafia was and his role. If Fababu was not protector, then why the fuck didn't the town guy who did save Lenny? What I find interesting about Ivo is what he has said, if a mafia is going to lie what are the odds it lines up with what the town actions were at night if he had no knowledge of this? Tom, if you are town you are wasting everyone's god damn time with this pissing match against Pobre. We want to know if lynching Cam is a good idea or not. You done a good job distracting people Pobre but we will not get any good information from Tom at this point. We can deal with him later. Unvote Just so we can talk some more. Let's not be completely rash, obviously a lot of questions still to address. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:56:12 Go ahead, vote off cam, I know he's mafia because I"m mafia. Vote him off. Go on. :] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 16:57:41 Tom, lol. You're a card bro. I'm going to win this game of mafia, and I'm going to rub it in your face as I do it. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/04/09 at 16:58:35 no, you're going to lose. Town will win. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 17:00:05 I know it will. :-/ edit reason - change of emoticon. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 17:05:02 Tom, seriously, I just told you I'm mafia, and I know Cam is Mafia, I fucking gave you the opportunity to vote off Cam. -_- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 17:09:45 All of 3 minutes... I ask town to look back at Tom's posts to see they have little value and isn't concerned in killing our biggest leads. No way mafia will vote off their own this close to a lynch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 17:12:42 Tom = Mafia very more than likely. Tom, have you had anything to drink tonight? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 17:42:17 FFS Tom you really are a dumbass this game man. Wtf are you doing? Pobre you need to cool it and stop instigating Tom though too. All in all the mvp of the day is Etch for his very insightful posts. It is still up in the air for me though between Cam and Tom. One of them will be the day lynch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 17:43:39 I also don't know why you suspect me man. Why do you want to bandwagon against me? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 18:28:07 Syzygy, Sportsguy001, vote off cam. We NEED to end this day TONIGHT. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 18:29:30 I actually agree here. We should be quick with our decisions and not give the mafia extra amounts of time to make up more bullshit. Any remaining vigilantes need to be very careful or just hold back and not kill anyone. Let's end the day boys. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 18:35:49 wtf... this forum is really sucking dick lately. Honko can you please delete one of those, it posted twice |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/04/09 at 18:44:51 [5] EnigmaticCam - Ivootjes, (Etch), Padzup, Darius, MVT, Pobre [1] Fababu - (Pobre), (Sword), EnigmaticCam [1] Pobre - In Hiding [0] In Hiding - (MVT), (Syzygy), (Pobre) With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. The day ends when a player reaches 7 votes, or in 45 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 18:48:37 I see your point there MVT. We gave town plenty to read and I don't know what more needs to be said. I guess hearing more from how Sportsguy, Padzup and Sword feel about this would be nice but if no one is in disagreement I take it they are also content with a lynch on Cam. I don't see a quick turn around in votes and with what has been said it is inevitable at this point. Whatever night actions you guys take, please be careful and choose wisely. Might be better off playing more defensive at night to limit mafia to one lynch if it isn't blocked. Don't know what roles there are out there. Deal the deathblow... Vote: EnigmaticCam |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/04/09 at 18:53:25 just got in and saw etch vote. sorry i was unable to post more tonight. imo cam is a great lynch, he is 100% mafia but he hasn't even contributed anything. there is no reason to keep him around i will not be surprised if he is Bomb. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 18:53:51 PAD, YA KNOW WAT TA DOO! O_O |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/04/09 at 18:54:38 oh wait, you already have your vote on cam. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/04/09 at 18:54:52 oh wait shit we need seven. i thought the day ended lmao. i'm already voting cam, pobre. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/04/09 at 18:55:33 yea. hold on, i gotta catch up before someone else decides to vote. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/04/09 at 19:43:52 Alright I've read everything so far I believe. We should end the day short again, no mafia is stupid enough to say anything now and Cam and Tom are likely not going to talk any more. Prolonging the Day will only give mafia time to 1. try to somehow make a vote shift and 2. figure out a night plan. Tom is most likely mafia, he joins Howes and Matt in saying that Pobre and Goose were/are terrible players. He and Cam have also said that our lynches so far have been lucky (Matt was the only other player to do this) and both seem to retain that opinion. If not mafia he is an idiot. His best defense has been whittled down to "this is how i always play i just go on hunches and i am always right! i swore on my families life i am town!!!" Tim and Darius are also associated with Tom; Tim swore as well and Tom grouped himself with KoopZ and Darius. However they are both difficult to read and tonight we can't get any more information out of them. I want to believe that Darius is town as he has played reasonably well so far and was one of the first to vote Cam but I can't shake what Etch said about him hiding something. As for Tim I am not going to use his lack of activity against him but that does not mean that he is innocent in the least. Tim, you may not have done anything suspect--but the thing is that that may actually be why you are mafia. To quote: When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. Ivo: While you will obviously come to your own conclusions, if Cam is a mafblocker I'd advise you to protect yourself since there would be no way for mafia to kill you. If mafia decides to kill you anyway they risk wasting their kill and at this point mafia can't afford to risk anything so you are most likely safe. If Ivo is not killed we currently have no idea who else mafia would kill; most likely someone who is considered to be town by the majority since all the towns who seem suspect would pick each other off afterward. I feel it has come to the point that I am at risk of being nightkilled by either town or mafia, so: I am Charmander, Town Lightkeeper. Any town vigs who truly believe I am mafia will wait until tomorrow to lynch me and mafia would be stupid to waste the opportunity to lynch me tomorrow. Do not waste your kills on me tonight or town will lose. That goes for you too Ivo. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by MVT on 04/04/09 at 19:54:05 your a complete fucking dumbass to reveal your role when we barely have any townies |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 21:51:10 Not sure where your fear is coming from Padzup... I looked back at the night summary by Robin. We know what Lenny was, I am more concerned about Extol and Koopz's roles. So Extol was hider, does that mean he can hide out with another person to avoid being killed? If he hid with a mafia, that must be why his dumb ass got killed. So Koopz was healer, does that mean he could have saved Lenny but failed somehow? Which brings Fababu's claim into question. I don't know all the roles but something does not quite add up. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Fababu on 04/04/09 at 23:07:08 I've just came from party during all night, so I'm not in perfect conditions to post a post with sense.I've read only a few posts, but about what I have seen I can tell you that yes, I send a post to Honko telling him I would protect Lenny, but I haven't received a message where he tells me that I was roleblocked. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Etch on 04/04/09 at 23:34:04 There could have been some special mafia power Fababu where it didn't matter if you were role blocked or not, it still ended with someone dying afterwards. In that case, you would not have been told you were blocked. Coup de gras, anytime now..... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by In Hiding on 04/05/09 at 00:15:49 why is it so crucial for me vote for cam when he's gonna be lynched anyway? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/05/09 at 00:18:34 JUST DO IT YA MINGE! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Time on 04/05/09 at 00:30:58 MINGE! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Goose ♥ on 04/05/09 at 00:45:31 MINGE! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Darius on 04/05/09 at 02:11:22 So apparently of the people who have claimed roles and are left in this game, we have a bodyguard, a cop, a lightkeeper, and two people who can't be killed at night? Out of 9 townies there are at least 5 more with power roles when we've already lost 5? Either some people are lying about their roles, not all of those roles are town or both. Fababu's claim hasn't been proven, Ivo's depends on Cam being mafia or not, Pobre has claimed more than one role, Tom has been dropping hints for ages and now has confirmed he can't be killed at night either and I have no idea why Padzup is getting worked up about being lightkeeper unless the role is different from last game. Padzup, I thought only killing the lightkeeper by lynch makes town have to vote by PM the next day. Has Robin changed the role to make that apply to night kills instead? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Syzygy on 04/05/09 at 03:08:57 Vote: EnigmaticCam Should have voted him last night tbh. I'm happy to deal the final blow. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Ivootjes on 04/05/09 at 03:25:13 Padzup, i didn't have you down as mafia anymore ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Honko on 04/05/09 at 07:49:56 The Pokemon continued their journey to Toad Castle. It wasn't even Noon yet when they began to feel tired. "Can we take a break?" "No, we've got a lot of ground to cover, and plus we haven't decided who to kill today yet." "Hey wait a minute, this story seems familiar." "Yeah, I guess Honko got lazy." "We probably should have seen that coming. Anyway, where were we?" "You wanted to take a break." "Oh, right. Come on, just a short lunch stop. Pleaaaaaase? What if we all agree? Everybody, who wants to take a break?" 11 voices called out in agreement. Only EnigmaticCam wanted to keep going. Apparently he wasn't paying attention yesterday. "Hmmmmm," said 11 Pokemon, in deep thought. "Gulp," said EnigmaticCam, in deep shit. EnigmaticCam has died. He was EKANS, Mafia ROLEBLOCKER. Night 3 begins now. You have ~24 hours to send me your night actions by PM. Day 4 will start at 9am PDT, or possibly earlier if I receive all night actions before then. Final Day 3 Vote Totals [7] EnigmaticCam - Ivootjes, (Etch), Padzup, Darius, MVT, Pobre, Etch, Syzygy [1] Fababu - (Pobre), (Sword), EnigmaticCam [1] Pobre - In Hiding [0] In Hiding - (MVT), (Syzygy), (Pobre) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Honko on 04/06/09 at 08:09:39 The adventuring Pokemon woke up nervously, worried they might find mass carnage like the morning before. They were relieved to see that only two had died this time! Darius has died. He was MACHOP, Mafia ASSASSIN. Sword has died. He was AERODACTYL, Town VIGILANTE. Things were looking much better today, but they weren't to Toad Castle yet. Their numbers down to single digits, they hoped they would make it in time. Active Player List 3) Etch 5) Fababu 8) In Hiding 9) Ivootjes 14) MVT 15) Padzup 16) Pobre 17) Sportsguy 19) Syzygy Dead 7) Howes - Lynched Day 1 - MEOWTH, Mafia GODFATHER 11) Kmacc - Killed Night 1 - ABRA, Town COP 10) karterfreak - Lynched Day 2 - ZUBAT, Mafia GOON 4) Extol - Killed Night 2 - DIGLETT, Town HIDER 6) Goose - Killed Night 2 - LAPRAS, Town MAYOR 12) Koopz - Killed Night 2 - CHANSEY, Town HEALER 13) Lenny - Killed Night 2 - GROWLITHE, Town TRACKER 2) EnigmaticCam - Lynched Day 3 - EKANS, Mafia ROLEBLOCKER 1) Darius - Killed Night 3 - MACHOP, Mafia ASSASSIN 18) Sword - Killed Night 3 - AERODACTYL, Town VIGILANTE Day 4 begins now. The deadline is at exactly 9:00am Pacific time on Thursday. With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch. The day ends when a player reaches 5 votes, or in 72 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/06/09 at 08:13:41 well played darius. Thing was u were too good to be true. Vote pobre |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/06/09 at 09:05:45 There can't be but one more or at most two more mafia. Seeing how we have lynched a mafia member every day so far, we're looking good. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/06/09 at 09:45:44 Awww damn, wasn't expecting to be killed. I'm glad I made it this far though ^^ Town have this game in the bag if you don't be stupid and make sure you choose wisely. Good luck Town! We can win this! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/06/09 at 09:53:51 Well it was a good run :) I just got back from the doctor today and apparently I'm on the last stage of the flu. So just so you know I really was sick. It just sucks that I got sick when I was mafia. I'm not really all that great at this game, I don't know how it got started that I was. Hopefully people see that now, lol. And hopefully I won't be lynched so fast the next game if I'm town. Have fun! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Goose ♥ on 04/06/09 at 10:12:53 if it was Sword who killed me I swear I'm gonna be so fucking pissed. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 10:25:18 Hmm, darius mafia, i'm not surprised by that. He hadn't been nearly as pro town as last game. I'm pretty sure there's only one mafia left now, but i'm not really sure who that is. Most confirmed townies have been killed already :( 3) Etch - probably town because howes and karterfreak switched their vote to him late on day 1 5) Fababu - Hmm, it could be that you were roleblocked when you were asked to protect lenny. Or you just made up that roleclaim but i guess not as darius had his vote on you for an entire day 8) In Hiding - i think that he's town based on the bet he made with goose, but as usual, can't be 100% sure. Hasn't done much to help town :( 9) Ivootjes - town 14) MVT - 99.9% sure he's town. Has done a good job in finding mafia. 15) Padzup - hasn't been that active first day, made some big ass post during the second day, which i didn't agree a lot with (because he pointed out me and sword as mafia while i was fairly convinced that sword was town already) But he had enigmaticcam as mafia, which makes me think hes still town after all 16) Pobre - just confusing as hell, made the most mistakes of everyone. Probably town, but not entirely sure of it. 17) Sportsguy - Hmm, i think town, but you can never be sure with sportsguy 19) Syzygy - although he does post regulary, all of his posts usually go by unnoticed :P Could be mafia as mafia tend to make that kind of posts. I might want to reread his posts a little better. Is my top suspect for now Vote Syzygy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/06/09 at 11:03:53 Vote Pobre it stands to reason that he's mafia. Darius you cheeky beggar! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 11:46:28 another mafia gone, there should only be one remaining. It shouldnt be too tough to figure out... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/06/09 at 12:14:54 I'm at my grandparents house hence lack of activity. Anyhow... Darius you mug, I'm never believing anything you say again :P @ Ivo - I thought you were good at this game, clearly not. For some reason each day I've voted off the mafia player, twice when the lynch wasn't even certain so why in hell would I be mafia? And how would your inability to "notice" my posts make me suspicious? That just means your observational skills are poor. As for the last mafia player... no idea as of yet. I assume there is only one left? Only town member I'm certain of is MVT. Anyhow, won't be on until tomorrow. Later. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 12:54:03 Pre-Written Post Why I think Fababu is most likely Mafia. 1.) The night lenny died, I role blocked Cam. 2.) Thus cam could not role block Fababu from protecting lenny. 3.) Fababu Claimed to have been role blocked. 4.) How is that possible? 5.) Ether he’s retarded as hell, or he’s mafia. Why Fababu is most likely not Mafia 1.) Cam pushed to vote for him. 2.) Darius Pushed to vote for him. Why I think Darius is Mafia. These are the only possible final members for Mafia; TAKE MY WORD ON IT. Fababu <Most likely retarded townie. In Hiding <Most likely just a waffle faggot, didn’t vote for cam because he would have felt inferior to me if he did, he still has it in him that I’m mafia, lol. Darius <Highly likely the last mafia member, just to much of a fuss to be left alive today honestly. Sportsguy <Another faggot. Listen; the rest of you are TOWNIES, stop squabbling and lets get down to business! LYNCH OFF DARIUS TODAY! Vote: Darius Unvote: Vote: Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 12:54:59 BTW, I role blocked darius this night as I was 100% sure he was the last mafia member, but there seems to be more than 4. :-X |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 12:57:57 Meh, Unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 13:01:43 That seems like solid evidence pobre, i hope you're not lying this time. Only thing that confuses me is that there died so many people, i have no clue what happened that night. Vote Fababu More people that have roleblocking skills? I'm fairly sure that mafia doesn't have 2 roleblockers. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Fababu on 04/06/09 at 13:02:27 ^I'm really tired of you Pobre. Everytime you open your mouth you just throw shit against me. It seems that I have done something to you, because if not I can't understand why are you focusing on me: you just say that I'm mafia, that I've faked my role and tht I'm retarded. I'm getting really annoyed. LYNCH OFF DARIUS TODAY! Eh? He has get killed, what the fuck are you saying? Vote: Pobre. I'm almost sure you're the mafia. Lets finish this game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 13:09:45 But jesus, I had a nudge that Darius was mafia. But now that I find out he was he's fucking dangerous as fuck. :-X + He was working on a PHD paper from what I heard on the boards; he'd be a killer if he was full focused, much respect Darius. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 13:15:25 Maybe we should try to find out what happened at night 2 :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 13:19:09 5B7C6C687C6F711D0 wrote:
Pobre is not mafia man...If you cant see that you are blind ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 13:23:30 TOWN % Fababu - 50% In Hiding - 50% Padzup- 65% Ivootjes - 70% Sportsguy - 70% Syzygy - 80% Pobre - 95% Etch - 95% MVT - 100% |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/06/09 at 13:24:43 Pobre has some pretty strong evidence that Fababu is mafia. Vote Fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 13:25:42 Padzup I find your town lightkeeper roleclaim to be really bad. Why in the fuck would you do that? If you were killed at night it would do no damage to the town besides #'s. By claiming lightkeeper though, you effectively force the town not to vote for you in the day. i think that is rather fishy. It would be the PERFECT mafia play. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 13:28:31 TOWN HOLD THE FUCK OFF FOR A LITTLE BIT. We are WAYYYYY too close to voting off fababu. We really need to talk more first. Discussion at this point can't hurt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Kmacc on 04/06/09 at 13:32:44 Quick vote count for you guys (although not as stylish as Honko's :-[) 3 - Fababu - (Pobre, Ivo, Sportsguy) 2 - Pobre - (Tom, Fababu) What took you guys so long to figure out Darius was mafia? ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 13:32:58 sportsguy can you hold your vote off just for a little bit. Let's let everyone at least get a chance to speak. We heard from Padzup or Etch either |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/06/09 at 13:34:59 Here is what i'm thinking If Pobre is telling the truth then Fababu is mafia. If Fababu is telling the truth then Pobre is mafia. I agree with MVT on Padzup. Why would he do that? With him saying that he is going to be in at the end of the game. He could be mafia, but could we risk lynching him. Unvote per the request of MVT |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 13:38:06 7E59494D594A54380 wrote:
I personally think your town but the evidence against you suggest otherwise. :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 13:41:10 But as MVT Suggested wisely; discussion at this point can't hurt at all. Unvote The possibility of there being two mafia members left is retarded. Mafia, listen, just forfet. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Fababu on 04/06/09 at 13:47:25 sportsguy can you hold your vote off just for a little bit. Let's let everyone at least get a chance to speak. We heard from Padzup or Etch either No, If Tyler thinks that I'm mafia he has all rights to put his vote on me. But he's wrong, the same as the others who are voting me. I'm Hitmonchan, the Town Bodyguard. At night 2 I send a message to Honko telling him that I would protected Lenny that night. I haven't received any message telling me that I've been roleblocked, but my protection on him didn't go on. So If that night I wasn't roleblocked, I should had been targeted by the last role of the mafia in someway that my action failed. I don't know what more I can tell you to convince that I'm townie and that I haven't lied you when I claim my role; but be sure that I'll try to defense yself until my last breath; this time I'm townie and I don't want to get lynched and lose the game by a bad decission |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 13:56:46 Fababu, just shut it. Don't talk anymore. If your town you'll just give the last mafia fag more leverage. So just shut your mouth. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 13:57:18 Ok town long post coming... brace yourself for a lot of information compiled throughout this whole game. I am Pikachu the town Recruiting Mason. Let me throughly explain the situation. My role gives me the ability to recruit one player each night that will be able to join the Mason Club. Members of the mason club are verified by Honko that all of them are townies. So basically everyone in the club knows each other is a town member. Since we know eachother are townies, we then reveal our roles to eachother, talk, plan, etc. If I attempt to recruit a mafia player, I will be instantly killed, however the other masons can still talk, they just can't recruit new members. Night 1- I recruited Goose. He was the Town Mayor which gave him the ability to prevent 1 day lynch throughout the game while he lived. Sadly he was killed the next night. Night 2 - I recruited Pobre. He is Town, I will not reveal his role since he is still alive. Night 3 - I recruited Etch. He is Town, I will not reveal his role since he is still alive. I can verify for a fact that myself, Pobre, and Etch are town. Therefore do NOT vote for them (glances at Tom :-/) You may be wondering why I am doing this? Well let me explain my proposed plan. We know that 1-2 mafia remain. We are going to end up lynching someone soon. If he is a townie, than I will attempt to recruit the next most suspicious player during that night. If I am killed during the night, than you know that the guy I said I would recruit is the mafia player. If the player we kill is mafia and there is another mafia left, I will do the same thing. I will announce who I plan to try and recruit before the end of the day and at night I will attempt to make the recruit. Me dying and the recruit not being accepted as a mason (either Pobre or Etch will notify you if he was accepted) verifies that the player is mafia. So effectively by the end of the day we will be able to completely eliminate all suspicion off of 5/9 players (me, etch, pobre, today's lynch, my night recruit). Hopefully either the lynch of today or my night recruit will kill off the last mafia. Any questions please ask. The role is not exactly the easiest to explain but I figured now was the only possible moment in the game that it would make sense to reveal myself. [smiley=beer.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/06/09 at 13:57:45 Fababu, I don't know who mafia, but from the looks of it it's either you or pobre. If not, i don't know how that is possible. I'm going to make my own decision, but its going to be own you or pobre unless something drastic changes my mind. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 13:58:51 Guys, I already said this before... Fababu probably didn't get a PM saying he got role blocked since the town assassin took out Lenny and Koopz who tried to heal him, just my hunch. Since Cam didn't role block him, he would not have been told so and the assassin overpowers any role. Fababu isn't pulling his lying bullshit so I feel like even if the town is suspicious of him, we can put off a lynch on him later. Kind of nice to see a mafia die at night for a change, I told ya Darius was lying. ;) Both Darius and Cam tried to use the role block PM excuse for us to vote off Fababu. If you still think he has a high chance of being town you must have some brain damage. Our bigger targets seem to be Tom and Padzup. Padzup revealing his role really didn't help us in terms of finding a mafia. If anything, mafia wants to stay as innocent as possible and blend in with the crowd. The bad trend town had was revealing roles left and right which have turned out to be true so far. I'm inclined to think Padzup is bluffing to keep any votes off of him. He has had some good insight and voted for mafia players but with so few left, I don't think mafia can afford acting powerful and jumping on the defense. They want to remain invisible and seem like the town. Pobre is fucking town, do the town a favor and vote for a more suspicious guy. Szygy and Sportsguy are on the fence for me, they have done an excellent job staying calm but with the way voting and posting has gone I don't think they are mafia, for now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 13:59:21 As MVT has stated; we have a 3 man alliance; bringing mathematics into the equation, WE, THE MASON, are in charge of who gets lynched or not; remember this. Also; Darius must have been the one to do the kill last night; or else we would have another dead townie, that isn't the case though; which shrouds the last member of the mafia in mystery. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 13:59:28 Mafia is fucked. [smiley=flush.gif] ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 14:04:42 I just read your post Etch; I agree; Fababu is just a really shitty town player. Lets focus on the fallowing, Sportsguy001 In Hiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 14:07:30 Padzup is town, I'm pretty sure of this. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 14:08:08 I can verify whether Fababu is town or mafia during Night 4. I suggest we kill someone else with this day lynch. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 14:09:12 Agreed. Sportsguy001 or In Hiding Anyone else, I want to hear reasons why you think they are mafia. We should drag this day out the entire 72 hour period; sweep the last mafia member up; just like dusting a house for finger prints. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 14:10:12 We don't need to verify Fababu, check someone more suspicious. I know Padzup has done a good job playing town but with so few mafia left, they want us to guess our way to a win rather than simply give up. Acting like Howes or karterfreak now would be suicide for them. Surely his long posts were not a gigantic waste of time because if he is mafia, lol. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Fababu on 04/06/09 at 14:11:03 Ok MVT, do it tonight. I believe you, so Unvote. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 14:12:01 I agree let's drag this shit out. Everyone needs to speak A LOT. Especially if they are town... Let's post as much as Day 1 and be certain of all possible outcomes before we do anything. List Sportsguy InHiding Syzygy Padzup Ivootjes Fababu These are the only choices to vote for. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/06/09 at 14:12:07 i'm not sure if I believe you lot are masons but seeing as goose is town then i'm in. I've a special role, i thought it was a closed game and can't say what they are? should i say what my role is? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 14:13:13 uhh well you cant just join in. You need to be recruited at night by me. I think it would be nice if you revealed though. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 14:15:00 At least now we have a 1/6 chance of lynching the mafia by day. and by the end of the next night we have a 1/3 chance of ending the game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 14:19:13 He's already revealed his role; he can't be killed by night actions. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Honko on 04/06/09 at 14:39:57 [1] Pobre - In Hiding, (Fababu) [1] Fababu - (Pobre), Ivootjes, (Sportsguy) [0] Syzygy - (Ivootjes) With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player had 5 votes, or in 65 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 14:41:46 ^Good strat by Tom. He's still alive so if there were any night actions he dodged them so far. If he is mafia, that means only a town lynching at day can kill him and if he wants us to trust him by not voting for him during the day he will never die. See the problem there? Sword didn't say much about what he did, probably could have helped us. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/06/09 at 14:47:51 Okay I am just going to throw everything I have ever thought out the window because with today's roleclaims it has been basically proven wrong. I was in the middle of writing a sizable post when MVT roleclaimed and basically made it all moot and that's why I hadn't posted yet today. MVT (and Etch): I have my reasons for claiming and I will explain them before Day 4 ends (provided nobody lynches when I am not here). I have to stress that I am truly town and that lynching me not only is a waste of time but will also give mafia another free kill since you will learn nothing from my lynch. Ivo: Night 2 is explained only if 1. there is another vigilante (I somehow doubt it) or 2. there is a Granny role (more likely). As for Extol, as far as I can tell Hider = Jailer with the exception that if he hides a mafia he dies (similar to Mason in that respect). That is how he found a mafia I believe and that takes his death out of the equation. I am unsure if that mafia was still hidden if Extol died. I guess we will find out post-game. There are anywhere from 1-3 mafia left. Originally I had thought there would be three but I suppose two is more likely. To start: Fababu, who did you guard last night? Ivo, state your Pokemon and your actions last night. If either of you cannot do this, then one of you are mafia since you have both already roleclaimed and there is nothing to lose from here. Tim, you have contributed shit-all to this game and I no longer give a fuck if you have not been around. You have been cruising through this game and while I got raped for it you've barely been mentioned at all. You attacking Sword earlier by saying that his posts lack content is fucking laughable too, what hypocritical tripe. That post didn't bring anything else to the table either, just like the rest of them. Speak the fuck up. Pobre, are you saying Tom is a Granny? Or just Bulletproof? How do you even know this if you are just a roleblocker? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 14:55:12 Because I said it was my role and he said I was a liar because it was his role thats how. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 14:59:26 Anyone of the 6 possible players are fair game at this point. I am leaning Tom at this point though because of his COMPLETE AND UTTER USELESSNESS. He hasn't voted with us (town) once this whole game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 15:00:55 Yea, we rather avoid needlessly lynching Padzup. I guess it came at the right time to show your role. Like I said, only a loser mafia would go through all the trouble making those kinds of long posts. We got more shit on Tom anyway. I still feel like Tim's nonchalant attitude puts him as a maybe mafia. Killing off Cam, which was nice, might help remove suspicion off of him but is a good ploy from a mafia stand point. This late in the game I don't think mafia would do that. Plenty of people did not vote for Cam either, maybe one of them is mafia. Sportsguy was more active early on and now he is sort of fading away. The Etch bandwagon was a perfect opportunity for some mafia to jump on to gain town stature but as we look back at how the game has developed so far, I see patterns starting to emerge. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 15:00:59 Tom was the person who promised us pictures of his girlfriends boobs with mario kart tagged on them if he won the karter contest. He's a scandalize clown. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 15:05:23 As far as I'm concerned, Tom is the safest lynch today. Darius was an unexpected kill, infact; this entire game has been an unprecedented mafia ASS WHOOPING. Tom is just creating useless confusion; and lynching a townie, and losing 1 at night isn't going to harm us at all. Infact; it will be to our advantage. we got this game in the bag we should just vote off Tom, and stick to MVT's strategy. Unvote Vote: In Hiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 15:08:36 MVT's house didn't have a "Dead Nigger Storage" sign so we couldn't drop off Tom there. Lynch him today. Like MVT mentioned, what has he done to help town besides telling us we shouldn't kill him off. Almost all the roles have been revealed, surely town has some useless guys. Claiming more power roles is unlikely at this point. Vote: InHiding We'll learn something interesting if he is indeed town, lol. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Honko on 04/06/09 at 15:14:47 [2] In Hiding - Pobre, Etch [1] Pobre - In Hiding, (Fababu) [1] Fababu - (Pobre), Ivootjes, (Sportsguy) [0] Syzygy - (Ivootjes) With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player had 5 votes, or in 65 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 15:16:40 If Tom is Town, I will forever deem him as the worse mafia player to ever walk the earth. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 15:19:06 Tom is the type of person that would say he's mafia even though he's town just to be a dick. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 15:21:20 Good mafia players to this point gave us some reason not to suspect them. Tom has given us no reason to keep him alive. Asshole town? That doesn't help us in the long run. Whatever his role is, it did little to stop daily killings. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 15:36:34 OH WHERE, OH WHERE HAS MY LITTLE MAFIA GONE? OH WHERE, OH WHERE CAN HE BE? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Goose ♥ on 04/06/09 at 15:50:34 Mezzanine is a badass name. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 16:15:28 i am surprised...where is the fucking activity. Why aren't more people posting!? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 16:20:22 We can seriously set up a nice night plan now. I can't imagine there being more than one remaining mafia player MVT: uuhm, recruiting someone is fun and all, but what if the mafia just shoots you? We can't know wether you died from a planned "mistake" in recruiting or a regular kill. I could protect you though, can't be shot then |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 16:26:14 Thinking about it, from your point of view i could also be mafia, then i could lie and "protect you" while in truth i would actually shoot you. We would procede to kill the person you recruited but didn't get recruited as you died. That would bring us into day 6 with me as only possible mafia member left anyway. Meh, i'll protect you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 16:38:22 I'm 100% sure that with the roles as i know them now we can't lose anymore. It's now 3 confirmed townies versus 6 unknowns 1 mislynch today= 3 confirmed townies versus 5 unknows tonight i'll protect you, you recruit someone =4 confirmed townies against 4 unknowns mafia shoots one of the confirmed townies =3 confirmed townies against 4 unknowns repeat process mislynch=3 confirmed vs 3 unknown you recruit=4-2 mafia shoots confirmed townie 3-2 with 3-2 the game is always won. Will go into 2-1 next day and will be won. Only thing that can screw us are strange nightaction we don't have a clue about, like tom's invincible shit. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 16:42:37 I'm an "unknown" in the entire story btw. As i'm the only one who knows i'm really a town, and the remaining mafia player knows this too. But you guys don't know this yet. He could do some other stuff btw, like shooting me (but shooting unknowns will immediately result into a 4-3 after next night = game over) So even if me make like 4 "mistakes" in a row we can't lose anymore. I prefer this game to be over today btw. :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 17:00:01 Damn, where's everyone [smiley=dead.gif] It's fucking in the middle of the night here, that's normally the time when the americans are online. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 17:12:21 Sounds good, but yea this shit will work itself out. Maybe mafia knows we nailed it so gave up? Or, are not posting hoping to drag this out longer through guess work. I hope there are not anymore crazy power roles left so we'll see what happens. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 17:14:01 If you protect me we are almost guaranteed to win. However I think you guys will know whether I died from mafia night kill or from recruiting mafia kill. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 17:29:51 If we follow my stated plan it will work perfectly only if I am protected. Or else I could say "ok I am going for sportsguy" Then mafia kill me and people think that sportsguy is mafia even though he wasnt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 17:45:36 Vote InHiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/06/09 at 18:22:04 Hmm, there's only one downside to my plan, and that's that i can only protect one more time. So we can use my plan but we could stil lose if we mislynch 4 times in a row, as mvt can be shot night 5. :-/ It's highly unlikely, as there are so much confirmed townies, but still... MVT: i think you need to recruit fababu tonight, i'll protect fababu, fababu protects you. If fababu is lying and is mafia we'll know tomorrow as you'll be dead then. If he's not lying he'll be in your mason group and can protect you during night 5. This way the plan can still work 100% of the time. Fababu: if you are town and can NOT PROTECT. please tell NOW as it's crucial that you need to do it for the plan to work. If you're mafia it doesn't matter as we'll have found out after tomorrow anyway. Basicly the plan works like this for this night: If mvt dies --> fababu is mafia if fababu dies --> i'm mafia (this won't happen 100% sure unless the same strange thing happened as during night 2) if 4 people die --> honko's game is broken The rest of the plan hasn't changed, except that fababu will have the role as protector night 5. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 18:34:53 I think I am pretty sure that fababu is not mafia now. The problem with you defending fababu and fababu defending me is the basic fact that could backfire TERRIBLY. At this point we still have a decent numbers advantage and the safest play is to defend as many claimed players as possible. Ivoot you can defend me. Then Fababu will prove himself by defending Pobre. If Pobre is killed than we know Fababu was lying. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/06/09 at 18:50:27 0D322B2B302E2137440 wrote:
So the story has changed from protecting yourself to protecting anyone now? What? Also if you are not maf then wouldn't the real maf just kill MVT to make Fab look like mafia, then when Fab is lynched and revealed to be town, you are labeled as mafia and lynched the next day? In this case that would give mafia four free kills IF THERE IS ONLY ONE KILL PER NIGHT (potentially more as we don't know all the maf powers). This plan doesn't make any sense as there are just too many ways it could backfire on you if you are town. And if you are maf then by the time you are put under the spotlight two Days will have passed. That's two lynches and AT LEAST two nightkills. Only one vig is dead and as far as I know the Assassin only gets to kill one person and is dead anyway (potentially his power had not even been used yet). Factoring that in that would show that there will be MINIMUM two kills each night. If no mafias are killed the game ends and mafia wins by the time you are suspected. And if you are killed and not the only mafia remaining then your sacrifice will only buy more time. Alternatively you could have pulled some kind of "HOLY CRAP I JUST SCANNED XXXX HE IS MAFIA!" strat and sacrificed the other guy to boost your rep to last you 'til the end of the game. And there is no possibility of you getting nightkilled because everyone will have agreed to follow your plan and won't notice anything is up until it's too late! It really seems like this plan favours mafia more than anyone, please tell me you didn't forget to consider any of the above before pushing this plan. It would only work if you assumed there is one kill per Night and we both know that isn't the case. I repeat: Roleclaim and tell us your actions last Night. And I already know what your Pokemon is supposed to be so I hope you get it right too ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/06/09 at 18:59:50 FABABU AND IVOOTJES. if you guys are really town here is what you do. FABABU protect POBRE tonight. IVOOTJES protect me tonight. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/06/09 at 19:07:32 With that said, let us cast our votes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/06/09 at 19:17:47 Vote Tom That's who we're voting for right? Unvote Vote Inhiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/06/09 at 19:42:05 2906050511061A24630 wrote:
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What the fuck happened to this? Does everyone not see the flaws in Ivo's plan? Or notice how little Tim is posting (content-wise)? Is this not a bit contradictory to what you guys were saying earlier? :-/ Sportsguy, why are you so quick to vote after not really posting at all over the past few hours? And overall, where the hell is everyone? We need to keep talking, is there any plausible reason we shouldn't? I highly doubt that there is only one mafia left standing, this game has been way too easy so far and I don't like it. We cannot be this close to winning this early in the game. Something is up :-X |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 19:44:39 MVT and Pobre feel like they have a plan for the night actions, hence no need to drag it out. While lynching Tom does not hurt town imo, I agree that others have remained silent. Maybe you are just paranoid. How many more mafia can there be? lol |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/06/09 at 19:46:08 I've been watching the basketball game, so thats why i haven't been posting. What's wrong the plan? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Honko on 04/06/09 at 19:51:07 [4] In Hiding - Pobre, Etch, MVT, Sportsguy [1] Pobre - In Hiding, (Fababu) [1] Fababu - (Pobre), Ivootjes, (Sportsguy) [0] Syzygy - (Ivootjes) With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player had 5 votes, or in 60 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 20:07:06 He thinks Ivo can only protect himself. What I think Ivo said was what he planned to do, that doesn't mean he can't protect someone else. We just need his role power clarified. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 3] - so i herd u liek mizugorou Post by Padzup on 04/06/09 at 20:11:58 724346585752220 wrote:
So the story has changed from protecting yourself to protecting anyone now? What? Also if you are not maf then wouldn't the real maf just kill MVT to make Fab look like mafia, then when Fab is lynched and revealed to be town, you are labeled as mafia and lynched the next day? In this case that would give mafia four free kills IF THERE IS ONLY ONE KILL PER NIGHT (potentially more as we don't know all the maf powers). This plan doesn't make any sense as there are just too many ways it could backfire on you if you are town. And if you are maf then by the time you are put under the spotlight two Days will have passed. That's two lynches and AT LEAST two nightkills. Only one vig is dead and as far as I know the Assassin only gets to kill one person and is dead anyway (potentially his power had not even been used yet). Factoring that in that would show that there will be MINIMUM two kills each night. If no mafias are killed the game ends and mafia wins by the time you are suspected. And if you are killed and not the only mafia remaining then your sacrifice will only buy more time. Alternatively you could have pulled some kind of "HOLY CRAP I JUST SCANNED XXXX HE IS MAFIA!" strat and sacrificed the other guy to boost your rep to last you 'til the end of the game. And there is no possibility of you getting nightkilled because everyone will have agreed to follow your plan and won't notice anything is up until it's too late! It really seems like this plan favours mafia more than anyone, please tell me you didn't forget to consider any of the above before pushing this plan. It would only work if you assumed there is one kill per Night and we both know that isn't the case. I repeat: Roleclaim and tell us your actions last Night. And I already know what your Pokemon is supposed to be so I hope you get it right too ::)[/quote] That's what's wrong with the plan, Sportsguy. And to add to that, if Ivo and Fab are both mafia then Ivo wouldn't even need to kill MVT and he could get another kill on someone else! I suppose I am a bit paranoid Etch but something just doesn't feel right about how easy this game has been so far. I agree Tom has been pretty useless but Tim has easily been just as bad and still nobody has said much about him at all. He is absolutely cruising right now, something I got a lot of flack for earlier on. And since you ask, there are up to 3 mafia left :) I just think we should at least wait the night out so more people can post. Will we actually learn anything from killing Tom yet or should we wait and see what the others have to say about the lynch (so Tom's role is actually relevant to determining who is mafia)? Nothing wrong with putting a vote or two on him and I am in favour of lynching him but I am unsure if we should end the day so early. I think somebody should unvote so he doesn't get quicklynched overnight. I want to hear more from Ivo, Fab and Tim before Day's end. Etch: No role I can think of is able to protect both others and themselves. That really doesn't sit well with me and because of this Ivo needs to post asap. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 20:30:29 Hear ya loud and clear. Unvote: InHiding Just so nothing rash is done. At this point, I don't think mafia would be voting their own off. Why do you figure three? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/06/09 at 20:43:58 My reasoning, going by the fact that the game ends when #mafs = #towns: -Beginning of Day 1 there were 19 people so potentially 9 mafia at that point. -By the beginning of Day 2, one town and one maf were gone. 17 people so potentially eight more mafia at that point (9 at beginning) -By Day 3 however, one maf and four town died. This puts the total at 12 people so at that point no more than five mafia could have been alive at that time. This brings the initial potential number down to 7. -At the beginning of Day 4, 2 mafs and one town died. Nine people left, so no more than four mafia going by that alone. But since two mafs died and there could have only been five mafia on Day 3 there is a maximum of 3 left (initial potential remains 7 for now). Just to be clear that is the max, there could possibly be one left but I am definitely more leaning toward 2-3. 75696E6C6072667930010 wrote:
What? If you don't believe that MVT is Mason, how is him saying that he recruited Goose proof if there is not even any way to prove that Goose was actually recruited? I don't follow your logic and it sounds like you are just trying to lump yourself in with three confirmed townies. And everyone in this game has a power role, you twit. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 1] - POKEMON GETTO DAZE! Post by Etch on 04/06/09 at 20:54:03 1C3F203D3B3C283A367F7F7E4F0 wrote:
Right off the bat, lol. I just thought you were picking that number out of thin air, but yea, hopefully 1 or 2 left. I don't think Robin said everyone has a power role, unless we count no powers as a power role. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/06/09 at 21:09:45 He never said everyone has a power role but I think it is pretty clear at this point. I'm off to bed, so to reiterate: Ivo and Fab, both of you, post the specifics of your roles and your night actions up to this point. Again, there is no reason not to as you have both roleclaimed already. 'Night. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Fababu on 04/07/09 at 01:07:58 You are HITMONCHAN, Town ELITE BODYGUARD. Using your powerful punches, you have the ability to GUARD a player at night to defend them from harm by sending me a PM. If that player is attacked, you will protect them by fighting the attacker to the death. Both you and the attacker will die, but the one you protected will not be harmed. You cannot protect yourself. You can use this ability as many times as you want. Night 1: Darius... T_T. Night 2: Lenny. Night 3: Etch. And ok, I will protect Pobre tonight. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Darius on 04/07/09 at 01:20:00 Good game, guys ;D Thought that might happen. I think I missed out on the start of days too much and what with all the scanning and tracking there wasn't much of a chance for me to say original or insightful stuff to convince people I was town. I'd have liked to devote more time to being mafia but it was a good ride while it lasted. Good work to Etch for picking up on me and sticking with it, he got a good read there. Good luck, mafia! [smiley=evil.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Lenny on 04/07/09 at 02:06:37 Looks like Tom's lost his money... ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/07/09 at 02:15:35 ok, so my role is this if mafia vote me, i die and they die (i was probably scanned early on) if i'm getting lynched then the last person to vote for me dies (and I die) :) go for it - lynch me you idiots. ffs. Its not me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 02:19:22 it's totally you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/07/09 at 02:57:51 good, be the last one to vote for me then :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 03:00:03 I've already voted for you pedoclown. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 03:01:58 Listen people; he's constantly voted for me and goose throughout the entire game, he's inconsistent with his post. He's lying about his role for the second time, and being a general fuss, wafflefag, confusion and dick to the town. He's unneeded. He is absolute trash at this, and if he happends to be mafia those are BONUS points. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by oneshotbillyII on 04/07/09 at 03:05:29 pedoclown ha ha ha ha ha ha ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 03:28:46 possible suspects tom padzup ivoot sportsguy syzygy Any votes to people besides these guys is retarded. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/07/09 at 03:47:34 http://images.absoluteanime.com/pokemon/mr_mime.gif I am Mr. Mime, the town jack of all trades. With my psychic abilities i can investigate, roleblock and protect. I can use any of these abilities 2 times. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/07/09 at 03:50:36 Oh, my pm states that i can use my protection on myself. And i seriously do not believe there's more than one mafia player left, that would be nuts. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 03:55:06 tom is acting just like howes did b4 he was killed. afk until later...school |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 03:56:07 ivoot if the day ends while I am gone PROTECT ME with ur night action |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 04:00:07 Ivo roleblocked fababu? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 04:00:41 Unvote We don't want to lose an extra guy for voting for Tom, assuming he is telling the truth. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/07/09 at 04:03:18 Honko: i hate you if mvt is a recruiting serial killer, or some random side faction/bacteria/virus that makes town lose once he's in control of majority of the votes. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/07/09 at 04:04:04 Pobre: i didn't roleblock fababu |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/07/09 at 05:35:20 I have no problems being voted off as long as pobre is the last one to do it. Pobre, if you're billy big balls then unvote and let everyone else vote for me and make sure you're the decider. More to the point, does someone want to find the real mafia while I sit here with my dick in my hand? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 08:11:47 First off, fuck you Padzup. You are just spewing shit now. Looking for things to make me look bad when I've explained myself throughout. Some of us are actually busy. Most of my poss came early on where I had a lot of free time. So anyway, I'll take this oppurtunity to increase my post count so you don't get so angry. In conclusion, you are ust as shit a player if I am infact shit. But the thing is, you think I'm shit because you think I'm mafia when I'm not, which makes me not shit. [smiley=lolk.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 08:12:54 It's between Sportsguy, Tom and Padzup for me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 08:13:55 Padzup is a twat. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 08:14:51 I'm town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 08:16:43 Vote: Sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 09:06:11 Vote Tim I can do this to. I'm town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 09:28:56 You obviously aren't because you're voting a townie. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Ivootjes on 04/07/09 at 09:45:55 Vote sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/07/09 at 10:53:52 Hold the fucking phone. It's nice to hear Tom explain his role some more. Unlike most of you idiots, Tom didn't reveal his power role on the first or second day. It was to the town's advantage that the mafia kill him at night so they get whacked too. That won't work if we tell them how Tom's ability works. In retrospect, Tom was playing okay just a little too suspicious early on. Since mafia never killed him off, one thinks maybe they scanned him some how or knew he was hiding something. I do not want to lose 2 town members so we have to trust Tom just for today. Only Tim and Sportsguy have not role claimed yet... You guys are voting for one another? One of you has to be mafia or you are both stupid town, I hope there are not 2 more mafia left, lol. I doubt Padzup and Tom put on this gigantic charade to remain under the radar from the town so I think one of you will die tonight. Right now, I feel Sportsguy is safer. Thank God the day didn't end yesterday, we still have some matters to discuss. Just hold off lynching someone for awhile guys. Darius and Cam lied right through their teeth, nothing can be said to really save someone now. There are some mafia left, you can't all be town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 11:26:05 I'll go ahead and role claim to prove i'm town. I'm ONIX, I can survive one night attack. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 11:26:54 292320233D235A0 wrote:
How am i supposed to know your town other than you saying it? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 11:37:04 Hmmm, in that case I'd like to hear some role claims from Tom and padzup. We've pretty much won, just a question of how quickly we put it away. Anyhow, I am TOWN :D I'll reveal my role if I get pressured ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 12:31:02 how have we won when everyone has claimed a town role? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 12:39:27 7B7172716F71080 wrote:
Actually that seems to be what you're trying to do :-/ I'm busy too, it's why I didn't post much on Day 1. And I don't recall getting angry, I'm saying that if you want to save yourself you should probably post ::) Do you have any reason for town to keep you around? You are quick to attack me when I really didn't say much to you. You also jumped on Sword after he said you needed to be more active: 7E7477746A740D0 wrote:
Where do you get off calling his posts useless when he actually said something of substance once in a while? ::) And if you hadn't noticed, I stressed that it wasn't the number of posts you've made so much as the content within them [smiley=lolk.gif] You act like people are mafia for the sole reason that they think you haven't posted enough. All you have done this game is neglect to post anything that could help town but when someone calls you out for it you fucking explode on them and then crawl back into the shadows until the next time someone notices. All I really said was to speak up, I don't think there is really any problem with that. If you do then you shouldn't be playing. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 12:57:26 Yes Padzup. I'm going to laugh my ass off when you see how retarded you are when you find out I'm town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 13:04:18 lalalala....you guys can bicker all you want...in the end it is me pobre and etch that will decide this |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 13:05:04 and padzup just deleted his post...that is illegal |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 13:06:32 Well, w/e. I'm Snorlax, town bulletproof. I can't be killed by mafia in one attempt at night and can "rest". |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 13:08:43 Sorry, was going to repost it. Accidentally clicked the post button without meaning to and didn't think anyone would see it and I wasn't finished writing. Either way: Tim, I don't think I've once accused you of being mafia. Get a grip ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 13:14:37 hey padzup why did you delete your post...? http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5717/sdc10275.jpg Exact post | | V Reply #1292 - Today at 4:03 pm -------------------------------------- What? I've yet to accuse you of being mafia. Get a grip ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 13:15:41 So then what padzup? You're just bashing me for no reason? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 13:17:07 You fucking guys are useless. None of you people have done jack shit to help the town this game, I could personally care less which one of you we lose. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 13:18:58 Tom Padzup Syzygy The 3 most useless players left. One of you will die at day, another will suffer at night. Fixed: "another" |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/07/09 at 13:23:55 Someone is fucking mafia... >_> All this bullshitting is starting to get confusing, if we have to lynch a few people so be it. Padzup, you are not helping yourself with this argument against Tim. I feel like mafia at this point would like to convince town he is innocent and try and get everyone to vote off the remaining town. But the way voting has been going, almost all of the mafia have tried to vote with or agree with the majority. Let's just face it, someone over on the mafia side desperately wants to win this gay competition and will drag it out as long as necessary. I'm still fishy about Charmander being a lighthouse or whatever. xP Aren't Tim's and Sportsguy's roles basically the same? lol Depending on how this shit plays out, I say Tim is cruising for a lynching. We can deal with the remaining suspects later. I just hope we get the mafias in this group. xD |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 13:49:01 MVT: I'm instantly put at the top of the suspect list because I called out Tim for not posting? How have I contributed less than Sportsguy, Tim or even Tom? If you're going to try to convince the remaining vig to nightkill someone make it Tom so if he's actually Voltorb none of you will die. Alternatively you could get Sportsguy, Tim, Tom, Ivo, Fab or myself to lynch him. I am obligated to defend myself by saying that I am not worth the kill. I don't really give a damn if I am still alive but we cannot start killing people just for the sake of it. If you want me gone you had better fucking have a real reason. And I already explained why I deleted my post so I don't understand why you needed to post proof ::) Etch: We can only afford to make one mistake (two if we are lucky) in our next lynches or town's numbers will drop. At least one of you/MVT/Pobre are going to die tonight at the hands of mafia so the number of unconfirmeds will remain high and nothing will change in that respect unless we work to make the best lynch possible. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 13:56:31 Fuck it, I'm done. I'm mafia, vote me and get it over and done with. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 13:59:33 ::) well will you look at that vote: Syzygay is this some sort of trap? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/07/09 at 14:42:25 Vote Syzygy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/07/09 at 14:43:50 36070E0E36030E07620 wrote:
ummm, if i suffer at night then we win so fuck off [smiley=uzi.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 14:51:47 Tom, you have to unvote for your vote to count. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by In Hiding on 04/07/09 at 15:05:15 unvote vote sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 15:08:50 What was that for? atleast you unvoted this time. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 15:26:29 lmfao. but yeah. this shit is getting boring. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 15:32:01 How about we go ahead and lynch someone. One mis-lynch isn't going to hurt us. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 15:33:08 fuck it. Unvote There, I voted. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Syzygy on 04/07/09 at 15:42:56 Lol massive attack is good music :3 Anyhow... Fine, don't vote me off. Unvote Vote: InHiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/07/09 at 16:00:02 Unvote Vote Inhiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 16:22:21 Vote: In Hiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 16:36:41 Well that's fine and all but who is actually willing to be the last to vote Tom? ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 16:40:42 he's bluffing about his power role pad, just do it. -_- |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 16:46:31 I know he's bluffing ::) I just don't want to be the guy who voted off Tom because everyone else said to. Are we really going to overlook the fact that Tim admitted to being mafia? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Mezzanine on 04/07/09 at 16:48:47 The Mason will take care of it. Now vote tom. I know what his role is and it isn't what he said it was. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Honko on 04/07/09 at 17:12:02 [4] In Hiding - (Pobre), (Etch), MVT, (Sportsguy), Syzygy, Sportsguy, Pobre [1] Syzygy - (Ivootjes), (Sportsguy), Padzup [1] Sportsguy - (Syzygy), In Hiding [1] Fababu - (Pobre), Ivootjes, (Sportsguy) [0] Pobre - (In Hiding), (Fababu) With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. The day will end when a player has 5 votes, or in 39 hours. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by MVT on 04/07/09 at 17:25:25 padzup why are you being a coward. Worst case scenario tom dies and you die with him. Your lightkeeper role (unless you are lying) is least valuable to the town at this point so just put your vote down and end the damn day / game |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 17:33:51 Wait, I was under the impression that if a Lightkeeper died in an explosion that it would count as a lynch on the lightkeeper. Can you confirm that this isn't true? In that case I would have no problem voting Tom. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Padzup on 04/07/09 at 17:35:52 e: just asked Honko and he said no. So if he's lying he is a cunt >:( Well if there's anything bigger going on it's too late to stop it now anyway :-/ Tom has done some stupid shit and I do think he's a good lynch regardless. Let's do this shit. Even if I die, being a martyr is all right with me 8-) unvote vote: In Hiding |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Night 4] - not ft. pikablu or mew3 Post by Honko on 04/07/09 at 17:57:13 In Hiding has died. He was VOLTORB, Town BOMB. KABOOM Padzup has died. He was CHARMANDER, Town VANILLA. Fababu has been modkilled. He was HITMONCHAN, Town ELITE BODYGUARD. For quoting his role PM directly. I stated clearly in the rules and later in the topic not to do that. Send in your night actions. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Night 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewth Post by In Hiding on 04/07/09 at 23:03:51 your prick padzup, what did i say? ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 10:31:42 Day5? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Honko on 04/08/09 at 10:32:39 Etch has died. He was SQUIRTLE, Town VANILLA. MVT has died. He was PIKACHU, Town RECRUITING MASON. With 4 players alive it takes 3 votes to lynch. Gogogo. Active Player List 9) Ivootjes 16) Pobre 17) Sportsguy 19) Syzygy Dead 7) Howes - Lynched Day 1 - MEOWTH, Mafia GODFATHER 11) Kmacc - Killed Night 1 - ABRA, Town COP 10) karterfreak - Lynched Day 2 - ZUBAT, Mafia GOON 4) Extol - Killed Night 2 - DIGLETT, Town HIDER 6) Goose - Killed Night 2 - LAPRAS, Town MAYOR 12) Koopz - Killed Night 2 - CHANSEY, Town HEALER 13) Lenny - Killed Night 2 - GROWLITHE, Town TRACKER 2) EnigmaticCam - Lynched Day 3 - EKANS, Mafia ROLEBLOCKER 1) Darius - Killed Night 3 - MACHOP, Mafia ASSASSIN 18) Sword - Killed Night 3 - AERODACTYL, Town VIGILANTE 5) Fababu - Modkilled Day 4 - HITMONCHAN, Town ELITE BODYGUARD 8) In Hiding - Lynched Day 4 - VOLTORB, Town BOMB 15) Padzup - Explodified Day 4 - CHARMANDER, Town VANILLA 3) Etch - Killed Night 4 - SQUIRTLE, Town VANILLA 14) MVT - Killed Night 4 - PIKACHU, Town RECRUITING MASON I'm busy, so fantastic story updates will have to wait. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 10:34:01 Ok, wtf is happening o_0 |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 10:34:55 Oh wait, mvt tried to recruit the last mafia Pobre, who did mvt try to recruit: Syzygy or Sportsguy? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 10:46:38 GIRUGAMESH! I can write fantastic stories Honko :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 10:58:55 Ivo, what happened to MVT recruiting you? I thought that was the plan. Now he is dead and your still alive. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Syzygy on 04/08/09 at 11:11:37 Vote: Sportsguy Edit: I think it's fairly obvious. It takes 3 votes to lynch so there must only be one mafia. I know personally that it's Tyler or Ivo, and I think Tyler isthe most likely. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Night 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewth Post by Padzup on 04/08/09 at 11:18:56 716D6A686476627D34050 wrote:
me? pobre and mvt pressured me into it :-/ honestly, if i had defended you any longer pobre and mvt would have bandwagoned me and then wasted the next day lynching you. i saved town from wasting more time than they needed to. i knew i was going to die but i wouldnt have done it if i had known fab was going to be modkilled. guys it should be obvious who is mafia now. apparently there really is only one left since the game hasn't ended yet so don't fuck up. and im not sorry for claiming, fuck you mvt. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by Etch on 04/08/09 at 12:04:44 3862393B3139336767520 wrote:
Fuck you Padzup. >:( As for MVT, you didn't think your plans through or overthought some stuff. I tried to convince town this was a bad idea and no one read my posts. I hope mafia wins to show how stupid you guys are. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 12:38:52 DONT FUCKING VOTE IDIOTS wait for pobre. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 12:42:18 Etch, padzup, mvt, goose, stop talking, you're dead right. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 12:48:30 Etch, the plan couldn't really fail anymore, if mvt had recruited a town player it would be 3 confirmed townies versus 2 unconfirmed townies which is an instawin. Now he recruited the mafia player so pobre knows who is the mafia player, this is an instawin also. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 14:00:30 How do we know there isn't two mafia's left. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Syzygy on 04/08/09 at 14:03:49 Because then they'd have already won. Unvote |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Mezzanine on 04/08/09 at 15:57:47 Yesterday night; me and MVT were discussing a strategy. Edit: And Etch was bitching and moaning about losing 3 townies. Was about to store him. :-/ The strategy was simple. I role block Sysygy, He attempts to recruit Sportsguy001 into the mason, and as a result, he died. Unvote Vote: Sportsguy001 I really thought Sysygy was the last mafia. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Mezzanine on 04/08/09 at 15:58:48 Sorry for the delayed response. I was sleeping; and now I have the flu. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 16:03:59 Ok, I give. I'm Koffing mafia poisoner. I can poison someone and they will die the following night, but i can't do it every night. I had a chance at the end to make it very interesting, but I picked the wrong person to poison. Two nights ago before MVT role claimed, i decided to poison Ivo(somehow he didn't die last night). If i would have poisoned Pobre then there would be no masons left. It would have been me, ivo, and tim left where i think i could have survived the day. BTW, Goose wasn't a vig kill. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Mezzanine on 04/08/09 at 16:06:43 GG. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 16:21:25 Vote Sportsguy |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 16:22:48 Vote me |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 16:24:14 That would have been crazy without pobre O_O Lol, i think i would have went for you though, as syzygy voted mafia out every time. (which i somehow forgot during day 4, brain melt or something :-[) Can someone make the last vote? :P Good game btw, though i never got the feeling that it was close |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 16:26:50 So, what happened every night? And every role description would be prett cool too :D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 16:27:48 694A55484E495D4F430A0A0B3A0 wrote:
FUCKIN COCKSUCKER. I WILL AVENGE YOU. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Howes on 04/08/09 at 16:29:57 GG town ;D The sad part is, I wasn't lying about not looking at my role PM. I had no clue what my role was for the first page, and I only got caught telling half-truths. I forgot that this is the internet and I have no reason to tell half-truths, and I should stick with truths or lies. The reaction to night 2 was great though. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 4] - not ft. pikablu or mewthre Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/08/09 at 16:31:07 50556A6B7667456D6D7167020 wrote:
And now you don't need to be. :P Good Game Town, although we almost lost that at the last moment! That would have been embarrasing. Looking forward to the night actions, this was a clusterfuck of a power role game ^^ |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by karterfreak on 04/08/09 at 16:32:17 GG town, although you guys had a fuckload of power roles, 4 of which were really powerful <.< |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 16:36:41 Sportsguy, i protected myself during night 3 that's why i didn't die tonight. [smiley=lolk.gif] Don't try to poison mr mime or youll regret 8-) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 16:40:21 575B4E52575B5D4F490A090D3A0 wrote:
Exactly. That's why either you didn't look, or you were a mafia who looked and then said you didnt. There was no way a townie would have looked and then said he didn't. Therefore I win... I just want to know sportsguy, WHY DID YOU POISON ME THAT WAS NOT COOL. Was it personal or were you that worried I was amazing at the game? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 16:42:41 I didn't poison you. You were the mafia kill for the night and i was just the person to kill you. The only person i poisoned during the game was koopz. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 16:44:06 Why was I the mafia kill for the night? That only proves how good of a mafia player I am if you wanted to rid me. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 16:44:45 I'm pretty sure only Extol wasn't killed by the mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Etch on 04/08/09 at 16:46:53 Fortunately, last night's actions were better than the last day's performance. Town redeemed itself but did not win in the coolest fashion. [smiley=happy.gif] GG |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 16:47:25 Sportsguy you played very well my friend. I still Vote MVT for town MVP [smiley=smokin.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 16:47:34 Here is what Darius said in a pm. and this is why we killed you. I think Goose is the best call, he thought Ivo and Extol were mafia and he put you in the clear a bit, Tyler. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 16:49:14 MVT, your mason recruiting role doomed the mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/08/09 at 16:51:07 Lol, killed for having bad assumptions 8-) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 16:51:38 LOL! So the first 2 days, I picked people and got the whole town behind me. The 3rd day I would have picked Extol, who was town, got him killed... apparently the mafia didn't want that happened so they killed me. Loooooooooooooooooooool. You guys are horrendous. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 16:51:44 Night 1 I recruited Goose. He was town I was happy. Night 2 I recruited Pobre. He was town I was happy. Night 3 I recruited Etch. He was town I was happy. Night 4 I recruited sportsguy. He was mafia. I was still happy because I then knew he was mafia and that sealed the deal to end the game. Yesterday me and Pobre made the plan to end it. He agreed to roleblock syzygy in case he was mafia. I agreed to recruit sportsguy. If I died Pobre knew to kill sportsguy. Game over. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Etch on 04/08/09 at 16:52:38 Tyler was too good for the mafia. Some of you guys are too easily persuaded. [smiley=ninja.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 16:53:03 Sportsguy I cant take all the credit. Major props goes to Pobre and Etch for extensive planning and great ideas. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 16:55:28 Koopz had me figured out, but no one listened to his suspicions after he was dead. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 16:57:11 Oh ya and I can't forget Goose's very productive days alive! Masons dominated! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Etch on 04/08/09 at 17:17:04 We did lynch a mafia everyday until Padzup went rogue. It's the towns best interest to take out the most likely suspect. I don't know what ground Koopz had to suspect you other than a hunch. Fortunately, the bigger power roles went first. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Extol on 04/08/09 at 17:17:53 01223D20262135272B626263520 wrote:
actually i was, but it was my stupid mistake. i had the power to hide with one person a night to save myself from getting killed, but if i hid with a mafia i would die. also, if the person i was hiding with got killed, i would die too, so it wasnt the best role. night 1 i hid with MVT cause i was sure he was town night 2 i tried to hide with darius cause he was making a pretty convincing case for town, but as i discovered, he was mafia and i died.. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Sportsguy001 on 04/08/09 at 17:21:14 Extol, Darius tried to use his one kill on you night one but "you were no where to be found" so he didn't kill you then. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by karterfreak on 04/08/09 at 17:21:25 Considering the game is over now, I figure we might as well say the strategy we had, and how we sorta got fucked in the ass by howes' mistake with saying what he did. As most of you know, we had Howes claim cop (i still say drowzee was a way better choice Howes ;) ) We were planning on doing this on day 2, but he was going to die if we didn't do something anyways. The plan was to have Howes claim cop, and say he scanned me, a mafia. I'd get killed, the real cop would most likely scan Howes, finding him as Town because of being Godfather, permamarking him as town. At night we were going to poison etch and kill kmacc if things went to plan. I ended up killing Kmacc, and we got pretty lucky that Kmacc was the real cop, as nobody would have been able to counterclaim howes past that point (if he was alive like planned...). Basically, the whole game was decided on day 1 :D Goose got lucky with suspecting howes tbh, even if I had have been town, I would have assumed that it was just an oblivious town mistake, as it happens alot. From there, tracker screwed me, someone else screwed cam, another person night killed darius, and yeah, you get the idea. In the end though, it was the mason that won it for you guys, that and the very powerful power roles you had (namely cop, tracker, mayor (albeit he did nothing) and mason) BTW Tom, you fail, we had you down as bomb from day 1 ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Extol on 04/08/09 at 17:28:12 @ Tyler, i guess he killed me in the end anyway lol After both kmacc and i were dead kmacc told me he was going to scan Darius on night 1, but he got killed that night. we wouldve been even better off if he wouldve lived through night one. :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Padzup on 04/08/09 at 18:02:21 etch, so i go rogue but mvt and pobre don't? ???? half of you thought i was mafia anyway, i was sick of it and nobody listened to anything i said so i gave up. i played fucking terribly this game anyway, partly because i didn't give a fuck because i thought i was the only vanilla. i didnt care about dying except that it would have been a wasted lynch on town's part. my roleclaim was mainly to bring mafia out and to get them to try to get me lynched (alternatively i was also trying to make it look like i was bluffing so they would kill me thinking i was a bigger power role). it worked on darius at least but sword already knew he was maf. i think everyone is pretty sick of mafia at this point, except flo [smiley=lolk.gif] so we should probably take a break until honko wants to host another game. and tim, what the fuck did you mafclaim for? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 18:10:36 6963707667705D6470676369020 wrote:
Even if Howes was town, my suspicion of him would have been justified. Admit it, I own you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by karterfreak on 04/08/09 at 18:19:39 Of course the suspicion is justified, but suspiciouns arent always right. The fact that you think they are means you don't own me in the slightest. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Etch on 04/08/09 at 18:45:07 @Padzup I was upset I had no say before the lynch took place, unfortunately that vote fell on you. x] Yea, I wasn't too sure what was going through MVT and Pobre's mind. Not enough people unvoted to keep the day going despite what was said. With 4 mafia dead, you think people would take some time making an accurate lynch to end the game! I guess it had to do with the fact some town players were not exactly on the same page which created some amount of distrust with Tom. I guess they rather win with him dead, lol. Just giving up is a cop out, it's like those guys driving backwards on wifi. ;D Defo, only Honko should run these threads. Stern, but fair. xP |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 18:48:51 Lynching me was incredibly dumb on the mafia's part. I'm always going to be the most suspicious, wanted player... keeping me alive gives someone to blame for being mafia. Getting Howes and Matt lynched even if I was mafia wouldn't be beyond me. I can do anything, I should always be kept alive as long as possible if my side wants to win. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/08/09 at 18:54:31 Lynching you Goose was one of the easier decisions we made. You were obviously town to most people, therefore killing you off wouldn't have really settled anything for the town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 04/08/09 at 18:56:03 I'm going to post now to say that I think it's insane that Town kept killing Mafias over and over again. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 18:56:25 Goose man it didnt take a rocket scientist to see that you were town...I wouldnt have recruited you first if I wasnt 99.9999% sure you were town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 18:57:58 Scott it wasnt really luck. It had a lot to do with the fact that the masons were able to all KNOW 100% as a fact that eachother were town. We all were able to share our roles and plan out night actions just like the mafia could do. So it was often a no brainer to put our votes together and lynch off someone who wasn't one of us. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by KoopZ on 04/08/09 at 18:58:40 i fucking told EVERYONE that tyler was suspicious. but noooooooo. and look who ended up being the last mafia. however, he was the only one that i had pegged as mafia right away. i definitely wouldnt have guessed darius, and i dont think i would've guessed cam, but i was never really sure about him. robin, how about a whole game breakdown when you get a chance? roles and abilities, night actions, etc... and maybe a final story to finish it off in style? ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 18:59:01 People being 99.9999% sure that I was town is exactly why the mafia should have kept me around. I'm that 0.00001% and they could easily have made a case for it. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 19:00:16 744E69555C497C7A525259695554535A3D0 wrote:
WTF don't you understand? The town had Pobre and I... seriously what would you expect man? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by KoopZ on 04/08/09 at 19:01:52 the town had MVT as recruiter, and he got etch and pobre right away. thats what won it for us in the end. about the only thing you can brag about is that you got howes, who you didnt know was godfather until after he died. :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Extol on 04/08/09 at 19:02:48 i had cam pegged at the beginning of day two, other than that i really didnt know who to go after. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 19:04:44 I had karterfreak and cam pegged from very early on. Darius and sportsguy I would not have guessed without help. I was actually very close I think it was night 3 to trying to recruit sportsguy into the mason. Good thing I chose etch [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 19:12:53 I also guarantee I would have got Cam on Day 3 and that we would have got Darius Day 4 if I were involved. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 19:14:18 There were many moments where the town could have easily lost this game. It was not as in-hand as it looked. Momentum shifted in the mafia's favor several times and we were put back on our heels. Night 2 was a complete mess. I lost my mason, who happened to be town mayor, a very strong role that could have been used in numerous circumstances. We lost the Lenny the tracker which hurt us badly too since the cop was also dead. I actually still don't know what healer does so I cant comment. Hider was a slight blow but not too bad because it saved us a bit of trouble. I had Extol pegged as mafia and was probably going to try and kill him off sooner or later. The lynching of Tom was probably the biggest risk masons took all game and it blew up (literally) in our faces. Luckily for us there was only one mafia left and we had a role blocker to save us. This game also proved that there are a lot of players who act completely illogically and just blindly make decisions and actions. I could name a bunch of guys who I don't think should even bother participating in future mafia games but I wont, and go on obliviously thinking that they will change their ways. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by KoopZ on 04/08/09 at 19:19:07 i'm gonna guess that i was pretty much the same as the body guard, but from the sounds of it, i think fababu had something else that he could that i couldnt. i was able to pretty much protect someone from being killed during the nite. the way honko put it in my PM, i could heal any injuries that someone would've sustained during the nite had they been attacked, effectively preventing that person from being killed. on night 1, i protected goose, thinking that mafia would go after him for being the one leading the way against their godfather, and on night 2 i tried to protect lenny, but that obviously failed. i'm interested in seeing all the other nite actions too. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 19:21:18 All I could do is stop 1 lynch. Pretty pissed I didn't get to use that to pwn everyone had they ever lynched someone I didn't lead. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Padzup on 04/08/09 at 19:25:51 Koopz: Healer is just a Doctor who can also cure poisoning. But you were poisoned so you were doomed from the start. As far as I know Fab's role was just a bodyguard that killed the attacker. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by KoopZ on 04/08/09 at 19:27:54 ah, thats why robin phrased it the way he did. i overlooked that the poisoning takes two days to complete. too bad i couldnt have protected myself (not that i'd have done it anyway, i was hoping to save other people) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Kmacc on 04/08/09 at 19:32:24 I scanned Darius night one just to solidify the fact that he was mafia to me, I had him pinned mafia during day one, I don't know how nobody else suspected him. Since none of you guys could possibly think he was mafia, I had not brought it up because convincing you guys would have never worked in a million years. Even if he came back as innocent, I was gonna scan a basically confirmed townie night two had I lived, just to see if they came up guiltyto see if I was an insane cop or something. Sucks I got targeted night one to die because I'm helpful for town, maybe I should start being terrible at this game so I get kept around longer. [smiley=lolk.gif] Edit: 0C36112D243104022A2A21112D2C2B22450 wrote:
That's probably because you weren't in this game. ;D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by AlexPenev on 04/08/09 at 20:04:35 Pobre ripped this game apart ;) And Goose was just walking in his shadow... isn't that right Pobre? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 20:06:24 Nah Penev, each time Pobre or I stepped a bit ahead, we'd make sure the other came along with us. It was the ultimate "you make me better" thing... which is kind of hard to believe given how amazing Pobre and I are by ourselves. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Extol on 04/08/09 at 20:19:58 Pobre wins at mafia. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 20:28:25 Quote:
Hey Goose that is only because I was pulling you both behind me like chained attack dogs. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 20:30:34 Chained attack dogs would pull the walker, not the other way around ;) But for the most part we had a good alliance going. It's just unfortunate I died and the three of us could never all talk together at once. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Mezzanine on 04/08/09 at 20:35:08 Ivo - Town Loner Pobre - Mafia destroyer Sportsguy - Mafia pro Syzygy - Clueless Townie/Gender Confused Howes - Mafia retard/Pseudo Intellectual filled with fail. Kmacc - Mafia bait karterfreak - Mafia crybaby/Moaner Extol - Town confuser Goose - Mafia destroyer/bait/Town Tough guy Koopz - Town Insulter/Confuser/Waffleburglar/Superiority complex Lenny - MVP/Mafia magnet EnigmaticCam - Mysterio Darius - Mafia pro Sword - Suicidal townie/Martyr <Purple Heart rewarded Fababu - Mafia Spy/Mafia Incognito/Misread his pm and thought he was mafia. In Hiding - Town Confuser/Waffleburger/Faggot/Rapist/Cunt/Nigger/Slut/Bitch/Dumbass/Cock Slammer/ <<<lost 20 dollars/Dosn't have a strong intuition at all. Padzup - Pro Speller/Played just to practice for writing class Etch - Town Bitcher/MVP MVT - Town pinnacle/Mafia Destroyer/MVP |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by MVT on 04/08/09 at 20:46:45 And that recaps this years' Pobre Awards. See you guys next year! 8-) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 20:49:10 Oh yeah. I'll be sure to get you the details of whom to send the $20 Tom. I need to pay off a debt with a British eliter so payment shouldn't be too difficult ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 04/08/09 at 20:52:32 Ryan, you're going to be owing Shep $20 in not too long, as well. (I sent a real nice message :) ) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Mezzanine on 04/08/09 at 20:53:38 Tim; Hurry up and vote for Sportsguy001. -_- And Tom; If you don't pay Goose, I'll lose what little respect I have for you. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Etch on 04/08/09 at 21:04:04 At the start, Pobre and Goose were running the show. I had to step in later and once MVT mason'd Pobre and myself, it was over. With cooperation from remaining townies, we just rocked this shit. [smiley=smokin.gif] We need less town waffleburgers and confusers next time... |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 21:09:40 Yeah right Scott. My bet that you won't kiss a girl until AFTER June 21, 2012 is going to hold off. Right now I owe Shep $30. If Tom pays my win it will be down to $10. The pending $20 bet on your first base virginity is just that, pending until you get laid or until June 21, 2012. Both of these events are far off; whichever is further is the ultimate question here. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by KoopZ on 04/08/09 at 21:22:06 i'd like to disagree on the waffleburglar and confuser part of things. i had no idea to know for sure if jeff was town, and therefore also had no idea that MVT had them as mason's and they all 3 (4 including goose, even though he died) were all completely sure that they were town. dont blame me for my posts when i didnt know what was going on. no wonder you and goose were acting all high mighty about each other and knowing wtf was going on.... though i have an idea that you would've been doing that anyway, being as cocky as you both are. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 21:28:24 did no one else notice how hilarious it is for the normal townies to have been called Town VANILLA? Vanilla is the best flavor and scent. It (with mint) is one of few tasteful, but neutral scents and tastes. It makes me want to eat the fuck out of Charmander and Squirtle. Fucking Vanilla. I love it. I want my gf's pussy to taste like vanilla and for my car to smell like vanilla. Not for fucking Charmander to be called Town VANILLA. Vanilla is better because it goes with everything. Mint does not go with Coca Cola, you can't chew gum or brush your teeth and then drink Coke. You can eat vanilla and do it however. I really despise things that don't go with Coke. For example, if I eat gummy candy or chocolate, I can't immediately drink a Coke after because it will taste bad and sit poorly in my stomach. Ever since I've grown older I've noticed that the combination of things in your stomach has an effect on how it feels... I never noticed this until I was about 16 or 17. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by In Hiding on 04/08/09 at 23:01:45 Goose, do you take paypal? I think it was a decent bet to take so early on. I've got to go to work now but goose and pobre, you're town technique is simply awful. You could've quite easily lost this game by voting for me, pressurising padsup was silly. Fab? WTF? too many rookies. As long as I was in the game we would've won, i've been in the last couple of days in each of the last games and i've now been on the winning team (apart from the first game i've ever played) so my record speaks more than yours pobre :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Goose ♥ on 04/08/09 at 23:08:28 Yeah I take paypal. rwhiteflames27@hotmail.com thx bro |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Darius on 04/09/09 at 01:22:57 Kmacc: that's exactly why we killed you. We didn't know you were the cop but we did know you were one of the best townies who was likely to see through all the crap. Etch was the other person we had down for that and sure enough, he picked up on me being mafia too. I think Lenny would have done the same if we'd left him in the game any longer (he may well have had me pegged already). Goose: at that point in the game it was also pretty obvious you had a power role. As we hadn't experienced Night 2 yet and seen that we kept hitting power roles, that was another strong factor in making our decision. It was also obvious that if you died, Tom was going to tunnel on Pobre and the two of them would fight with each other for the rest of the game. I think that was one aspect of our strategy that actually worked very well. I'd rather the mafia had 3 or 4 goons and there were a lot less power roles for town. It was a good move on Robin's part to keep a lot of people interested in the game but I think it took something away from analysing people's posts because the night actions had such a massive influence on ending the game quickly. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Ivootjes on 04/09/09 at 02:03:19 I'll host a game with less power roles. ;D I'll wait a bit before hosting it though, no need to start a new game immediately. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/09/09 at 03:14:41 I'll admit that I didn't play all too well in this game, and I'm sorry for that >_< The only mafia I was ever sure of was Darius. I agree that the Howes vote was down to complete chance and I went along with it because I really wasn't sure. karterfreak was somewhat obvious after Howes had died because of how strongly he defended him. I had a feeling Cam was fishy and was hiding something but I was never confident that he was mafia, but he turned out to be. Darius was one I was slowly building up on, as all he was doing was copy-pasting what others had said before and not contributing a fraction as much as he did last game, which made it pretty obvious :P And like I said before, you just cannot tell with Tyler. He could be on either side of the game, because his post habits are almost identical when he is mafia and when he is town. Definately the hardest to read out of everyone. Good Game, everyone. :D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Darius on 04/09/09 at 05:25:28 Honestly, Sword, I didn't actually change my style much at all. I think you think I played better last game than I actually did. The reason it might have seemed like I was copying what others had said is because I wasn't getting on early enough in days and so I was often playing catch-up. The tracking of Matt and the scan of Cam also gave me little to no choice: what was I going to say to those? Disagreeing and trying to put together a case on someone else would have made me more obvious mafia. There were a number of people in the game who copied what others had said at one point or another and they often weren't mafia. I actually made a completely original and fairly useful point against Cam about the distancing votes that no-one on town commented on (in fact, Pobre thought it meant that Cam wasn't mafia). Re-read Day 1 and 2 of the last game: on Day 1 I'm pretty sure I barely contributed a thing and made the wrong call on Flo and on Day 2 I first suspected April but then got distracted by Tyler posting very little and played a large part in getting him lynched, basically because he was no good at defending himself. I think how people perceived me as a player last game got me in trouble from the start in this game and there wasn't a whole lot I could do about that. Later on I got to play a very aggressive game with 100% town trust because I was the PGO and my involvement in Tim and Fababu getting killed was quite strong. Maybe that's what people took away with them, even though I actually tried to get you and Sully lynched as well as Tim and Fababu. My style is what it is and it does mean I have to work a lot harder at keeping mafia tells out of my play. I'm hoping I don't have to spend most of the next game being a townie and still defending myself against people who claim I'm not contributing as much as I did the first time I was town. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Adam L on 04/09/09 at 07:46:01 484D72736E7F5D7575697F1A0 wrote:
Just posting to say this is true. In the first game, when I was mafia with him, he tried to lynch me like four times. You suck at mafia Goose :D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Syzygy on 04/09/09 at 08:24:37 Sportsguy already voted himself so the game is over, but anyway. Vote: Sportsguy Told you I wasn't mafia ;) And no I wasn't a clueless townie Pobre, check my voting patterns. Funny, I had a dream last night that Sportsguy was Koffing :-? No, really. :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by KoopZ on 04/09/09 at 09:33:55 wow, we really need a break from mafia if people are starting to dream about it. or maybe just tim needs a break from mafia. :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Padzup on 04/09/09 at 11:15:53 I'm in favour of Tim sitting out the next game :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Honko on 04/09/09 at 12:24:48 Summary of roles and night actions and my thoughts on who sucks and who sucks less will come soon. Thanks for playing everyone, hope you enjoyed it. I won't be hosting another one for at least a couple months so there's plenty of time for other people to host, or for us to take a mafia break. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Goose ♥ on 04/09/09 at 12:34:46 I vote Mafia Break. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/09/09 at 12:37:59 I already know I totally sucked ass as mafia this time around. Hopefully I'll do better next time. And I agree, mafia break all together. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Syzygy on 04/09/09 at 13:35:20 0E3F3A242B2E5E0 wrote:
You're such a fucking idiot. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Ivootjes on 04/09/09 at 14:23:05 HONKO! plox post roles |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Padzup on 04/09/09 at 14:24:05 404A494A544A330 wrote:
You're such a fucking idiot.[/quote] It's a joke ::) you take posts here way too seriously. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by ☆Sword☆ on 04/09/09 at 14:32:28 Vote : Mafia Break |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Syzygy on 04/09/09 at 14:36:11 K fair enough Padzup :-/ Vote: Mafiabreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by Etch on 04/09/09 at 14:38:11 2F3334363A283C236A5B0 wrote:
Ya, to his credit it was his first game but I was the one pulling the strings. Someone had to show him the ropes. Only time they got off the reigns were toward the end. It's just a shame mafia didn't try and pick you out sooner Tom, maybe a little too zealous in wanting to die. lol I am willing to side with the town once more. Vote: Mafia Break |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Whining And Stuf Post by Padzup on 04/09/09 at 14:40:25 hey guys wanna play pulp fiction mafia? [smiley=happy.gif] vote: Mafia Break |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Extol on 04/09/09 at 16:26:34 vote: mafiabreak |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by KoopZ on 04/09/09 at 21:27:46 vote: mafia break i felt like we needed one after game number 3. definitely time we took one now. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 5] - definitely not ft. girugam Post by In Hiding on 04/10/09 at 01:07:29 70754A4B5647654D4D5147220 wrote:
sent gg ;) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Ivootjes on 04/10/09 at 02:48:59 HONKO! still no roles posted ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by MVT on 04/10/09 at 15:13:58 honko you lazy fuck |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Honko on 04/10/09 at 15:43:57 I'll post it late tonight or tomorrow morning. If you guys had ended the game 24 hours earlier I would have had time but now I'm busy. Blame Darius, it's probably his fault somehow. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by KoopZ on 04/10/09 at 23:10:09 he was mafia. blame darius! unblame blame: darius |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Goose ♥ on 04/10/09 at 23:55:29 It's actually Darius' mom's fault for keeping Honko so busy. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Honko on 04/11/09 at 00:27:47 booyah |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Darius on 04/11/09 at 01:11:10 Honko's been trying to beat my MK64 times 24/7 but he can't do it. That's why he's got no time. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Flo1 on 04/11/09 at 02:23:38 Werewolves signup Ok, so, Ia saw that this game was over... So as I said, I'll host the next one :D This won't be a mafia game but a werewolves game (the french equivalent of this game) [smiley=happy.gif] I saw you wanted to take a short break, So, let's start it next week. I will explain you all the roles in a few days, and so we need 20-21 players. Who wants to play? :D |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Ivootjes on 04/11/09 at 04:01:42 You might want to make a new topic for sign ups. And as far as i know werewolf is the same game :-? What are the differences? |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Honko on 04/11/09 at 11:52:00 5E7B68736F691A0 wrote:
How's your CM flap going there Mr. Noob? [smiley=happy.gif] Alright, I'm awake and out of cool excuses. Here are the roles. Mafia Howes/Meowth - Godfather (shows up innocent in scans by Abra and Mr. Mime) Sportsguy/Koffing - Poisoner (poisons someone every other night, they die the following night. if they are protected on the night they get poisoned, the poison fails. on the 2nd night they could only be saved by Chansey) EnigmaticCam/Ekans - Roleblocker Darius/Machop - Assassin (has 1 extra kill that goes through any protection from Mr. Mime, Chansey, Hitmonchan, and/or Snorlax) Karterfreak/Zubat - Goon (no power) Town Ivootjes/Mr. Mime - Jack-of-all-Trades (could protect, roleblock, and scan twice each. was allowed to protect self) Koopz/Chansey - Healer (doctor that could also heal poison on the 2nd night) Kmacc/Abra - Cop Lenny/Growlithe - Tracker (targets you to see who you visited tonight) Sword/Aerodactyl - Vigilante (could kill every other night) Fababu/Hitmonchan - Elite Bodyguard (if someone tries to kill or poison the person he protects, he and the attacker both die instead) Pobre/Jigglypuff - Roleblocker Extol/Diglett - Hider (could hide with someone every night. if anyone tried to kill Diglett, they would fail, but if he hid with a mafia or if someone killed the person he hid with, he would die) MVT/Pikachu - Recruiting Mason (tries to recruit 1 person per night. if they are town, they become a mason, if they are mafia Pikachu dies) Goose/Lapras - Mayor (could nullify one lynch during the game, but not his own) Syzygy/Snorlax - Bulletproof (could absorb 1 normal kill per night, immune to poison) In Hiding/Voltorb - Bomb (kills the person who nightkills him, or the last person to vote for him if he's lynched) Padzup/Charmander - Vanilla (no power) Etch/Squirtle - Vanilla (no power) Mafia also had a safelist of Bulbasaur and Onix. They were told that nobody had those Pokemon as roles, so they could use them as claims if necessary. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Honko on 04/11/09 at 11:54:02 Night actions. NIGHT 1 karterfreak (Zubat) kills Kmacc (Abra). Sportsguy (Koffing) poisons Koopz (Chansey). EnigmaticCam (Ekans) roleblocks Goose (Lapras). Darius (Machop) assassinates Extol (Diglett). Ivootjes (Mr. Mime) scans Padzup (Charmander). Koopz (Chansey) heals Goose (Lapras). Kmacc (Abra) scans Darius (Machop). Lenny (Growlithe) tracks karterfreak (Zubat). Fababu (Hitmonchan) guards Darius (Machop). Pobre (Jigglypuff) roleblocks Ivootjes (Mr. Mime). MVT (Pikachu) recruits Goose (Lapras). Extol (Diglett) hides with MVT (Pikachu). SUMMARY Kmacc is killed by karterfreak. Koopz is poisoned by Sportsguy. Lenny tracks karterfreak and finds out he visited Kmacc. Darius attempts to assassinate Extol but fails because Extol is hiding. Goose becomes a mason. NIGHT 2 Sportsguy (Koffing) kills Goose (Lapras). EnigmaticCam (Ekans) roleblocks Lenny (Growlithe). Darius (Machop) assassinates Lenny (Growlithe). Ivootjes (Mr. Mime) scans EnigmaticCam (Ekans). Koopz (Chansey) heals Lenny (Growlithe). Lenny (Growlithe) tracks Etch (Squirtle). Fababu (Hitmonchan) guards Lenny (Growlithe). Pobre (Jigglypuff) roleblocks EnigmaticCam (Ekans). MVT (Pikachu) recruits Pobre (Jigglypuff). Extol (Diglett) hides with Darius (Machop). SUMMARY Koopz dies from poison. Extol attempts to hide with Darius and dies. Goose is killed by Sportsguy. Darius assassinates Lenny, overriding protection from both Koopz and Fababu. Ivootjes scans EnigmaticCam and finds out he is mafia. Pobre becomes a mason. NIGHT 3 Sportsguy kills Sword (Aerodactyl). Sportsguy (Koffing) poisons Ivootjes (Mr. Mime). Ivootjes (Mr. Mime) protects Ivootjes (Mr. Mime). Sword (Aerodactyl) kills Darius (Machop). Fababu (Hitmonchan) guards Etch (Squirtle). Pobre (Jigglypuff) roleblocks Darius (Machop). MVT (Pikachu) recruits Etch (Squirtle). SUMMARY Sword is killed by Sportsguy. Sportsguy attempts to poison Ivootjes but fails because Ivootjes is protecting himself. Darius is killed by Sword. Etch becomes a mason. NIGHT 4 Sportsguy kills Etch (Squirtle). Ivootjes (Mr. Mime) protects MVT (Pikachu). Pobre (Jigglypuff) roleblocks Syzygy (Snorlax). MVT (Pikachu) recruits Sportsguy (Koffing). SUMMARY Etch is killed by Sportsguy. MVT attempts to recruit Sportsguy and dies. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Honko on 04/11/09 at 12:24:28 Some of my random thoughts about the game. The last second Etch bandwagon at the end of day 1 was the worst play of the game. It looked really bad, especially after Howes was lynched anyway and it became obvious that it was an attempt to save him. And it grouped mafia's names together easily, since Sportsguy, karterfreak, and Howes all changed their votes in those last couple minutes. karterfreak paid the price, but I'm surprised Sportsguy was able to avoid suspicion for most of the game after being involved in that. I thought Cam was playing a decent game but Extol and Padzup picked up a lot of small tells in his play that everyone else seemed to miss. The masons deserve the credit they're getting for taking out Howes and Sportsguy, but Day 3 was critical for town to keep their confidence after that crazy Night 2, and so Cam's lynch was very important. Tom, I hope you weren't trying to hide the fact that you were bomb. Saying things like "if you lynch me, that's 2 dead townies" and "mafia please kill me and let suspicious Fab live another day" made it obvious to the mafia what you were and basically got rid of the usefulness of your role. Extol, I agree with you that Hider isn't a very powerful role. Its main use is to confuse the mafia (which it did, they came up with some pretty silly theories about why Darius couldn't find and kill you). If you survive long enough, it could also probably be used as a kind of suicidal cop if you chose to reveal your role. Mafia got lucky when Darius killed Lenny through 2 protectors. They probably should have capitalized more on that confusion. Getting Fababu lynched the next day should have been easy. Good job to Etch for eventually figuring out what happened and saving Fababu. People were too eager to claim their roles when they weren't in danger in my opinion. Lenny didn't really need to claim Tracker, since karterfreak had plenty of evidence against him and would probably have been lynched anyway. On the other hand, what was up with people saying "don't claim your role ever, even if you're about to get lynched, it gives mafia too much info"? Yeah, it does give mafia info, but mafia would also get that info if the person is lynched. Would you rather have a live cop who mafia knows is cop, or a dead cop who mafia knows is cop? At least the live one will soak up the mafia's roleblocker or nightkill for that night. If you're a townie and you're about to meet the noose, you should ALWAYS tell town everything you know. It gives you a chance of surviving so town doesn't lynch a townie, and it gives town more info to work with tomorrow if they do make the mistake of lynching you. Goose, Vanilla is the generic name for "needledicks" in most games. Because it's the most basic flavor of ice cream, obviously. Just like how games without the expansion packs are sometimes called Vanilla Starcraft or Vanilla Civ3, for example. Those are my general thoughts. If anyone was hoping for me or others to tell them specifically how they did, say so, but I'm not really a scumhunting expert so don't expect too much insight. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Darius on 04/11/09 at 12:42:28 Spot on with the Etch bandwagon, Robin. I'm still not sure why my fellow mafia buddies did that or what they thought it'd achieve. Better to keep things between Howes, Goose and Fababu; even if one mafia did look suspicious by voting for Goose and getting him lynched it would still have been better than that. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by EnigmaticCam on 04/11/09 at 13:12:30 Yes, I'm just as surprised no one noticed that sportsguy was among those voting on Etch on the final vote count on day 1. In fact, I had considered pointing it out, hoping to lead to a lynch of sportsguy to solidify myself as town. But we decided his poisoning abilities would be best kept in the game. |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Etch on 04/11/09 at 13:15:28 We lynched a mafia each day, I don't think it mattered if we got Sportsguy sooner or not. Only other town guy who could have killed more was Sword but I guess he wanted to be sure his kills were against mafia. Could have ended a day earlier if people weren't so adamant to get rid of Tom. ::) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by In Hiding on 04/11/09 at 16:57:56 ahem, noobs :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Mezzanine on 04/11/09 at 21:31:36 My personal thoughts. I originally started playing to reach 10k post purely; night 2 is when I started to gain interest. All I have to say is that I lynched In Hiding out of a grudge because he's just a complete fucking dick seriously. Who plays like that? Who's so retarded as to get his entire team to lynch him just because they hate him? Tom, you are BY FAR the WORSE mafia player in existence! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by In Hiding on 04/12/09 at 03:46:04 I think you're a poor player for spouting so much waffle throughout the first two days. On top of that you got me lynched which caused a double town killing. No.. clearly.. you are.. the better player! |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Lenny on 04/12/09 at 05:30:56 Hmmmmm... I know I probably shouldn't have revealed my role, but at that point, I kinda needed to die, under the basis that I had 3 assessments coming in the following week I needed to study for lol. I'm not going to insult anyone here, but in my opinion it was a good game. :) |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by Ivootjes on 04/12/09 at 06:43:46 Quote:
OWNED Yeah, i played pretty poorly :P |
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Title: Re: Pokemafia [Day 17] - ft. Town Winning And Stuf Post by KoopZ on 04/12/09 at 07:24:59 i caught on to tyler, didnt i already say that? >_< and he poisoned me first nite cuz of that. gg by all, but i just wish i'd have lived longer. |
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