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Message started by Lenny on 02/25/09 at 22:11:10

Title: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Lenny on 02/25/09 at 22:11:10

Player List
1. Honko - Killed N4 - Virgin
2. Extol - Lynched D7 - Hooker
3. IsThatAGoodThing
4. In Hiding
5. Syzygy - Killed N4 - Cunt
6. Darius
7. SuperYoshi1 - Lynched D5 - Captivator
8. Sportsguy001 - Lynched D2 - Needledick
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
10. %hat - Killed N1 - Cunt
11. dragondragon
12. nstinson - Lynched D6 - Alpha Male
13. Fababu - Lynched D4 - Cunt
14. Flo1 - Lynched D1 - Single Female Lawyer
15. Kmacc
16. karterfreak
17. Detective Spril - Lynched D3 - Dominatrix
18. Padzup - Killed N2 - Clingy Whipped Boy
19. Howes - Killed N5 - Needledick
20. Jabes - Killed N3 - Needledick
21. Brutus - Modkilled D3 - Needledick
22. Ivootjes - killed N5 - Transvestite
23. Etch - Killed N1 - Needledick
24. sully
25. AlexPenev - Killed N6 - Watcher
26. MVT - Killed N3 - Cockbite
27. Kevin Booth - Killed N6 - Needledick
28. oneshotbillyII


Roles
There are 28 players in this game: 21 Town (12 with special abilities), and 7 Mafia (4 with special abilities). These are the specifics of all the roles in the game.  You will get a PM from me saying one of these things. The roles were assigned to players completely randomly by drawing out of a hat 8-)

Town

9xNeedledick - You are a Needledick! Nothing too special about you.

2xVirgin - You are a Virgin, one of the Town Vigilantes! Each night with you vote with your buddy [insert name here] to kill someone who isn't a virgin. However, you are not good enough for the mafia, so if the mafia shoots you, your shot will be overridden.

1xStalker - You are the Stalker, the Town Watcher! Each night you choose one person to watch/stalk, and you will know who visited that person that night.

1xKidnapper - You are the Kidnapper, the Town Jailer! Each time there is a no-lynch, you may choose one person to kidnap. The kidnapped will be immune to night actions and will not be able to perform night actions.

1xMoralist - You the Moralist, the Paranoid Gun Owner! Anyone who visits you within the night will be shot by you.

1xSkirt Lifter - You are the Skirt Lifter, the Town Cop! Each night you choose someone to skirt lift/investigate. You will know if they are aligned with the town or mafia.

1xWomanizer - You are the Womanizer, the Town Drunk! Each night you choose someone to roleblock. They will not be able to perform night actions.

1xClingy Whipped Boy - You are the Clingy Whipped Boy, the Town Bodyguard! Each night you choose someone to save, and you also send me heads or tails. If you choose someone that will die, I will flip a coin. If it lands on what you chose, you will kill the attacker. If it lands on the other side, you will die in place of the victim.

2xAlpha Male - You are an Alpha Male, a Town Bulletproof! You can survive one extra night shooting, so it will take 2 shots to bring you down. You can still be lynched, however.

1xCockbite - You are the Cockbite, the Town Lightkeeper! If you are lynched, the next day, people will have to pm me their vote. No-one will know who voted who, and once a majority has been reached, someone will die. Otherwise just a needledick.

1xTransvestite - You are the Transvestite, the Town Miller! You appear as an Average Guy to yourself and as mafia to cops.

Mafia

3xCunt - You are a Cunt, out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here]

1xHooker - You are the Hooker, the Mafia Roleblocker! You are out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here]. Each night you may choose one player to roleblock, who will be incapable of performing night actions.

1xCaptivator - You are the Captivator, the Mafia Silencer! You are out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here]. Each night you may choose one person. They will not be allowed to speak the next day. Their doing so will result in a 'modkill'

1xDominatrix - You are the Dominatrix, the Mafia Framer! You are out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here]. Each night you may choose one person to become your slave, and they will appear as mafia to the cops.

1xSingle Female Lawyer  - You are the Single Female Lawyer, the Mafia Lawyer! You are out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here]. Each night you may choose one member of the mafia. For that night, the mafia will appear innocent to cops.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Lenny on 02/25/09 at 22:23:57

Rules
-Days will last 72 hours, or until a majority of votes are on 1 person. If no majority is reached before the deadline, then the person with the most votes will by lynched. If there is a tie, the one that was most recently ahead will be lynched.
-Nights will last 24 hours, or until I have recieved all night action PMs. If you do not send your action before the deadline, then you won't perform any action for that day. If you don't want to do an action that night, please send me a PM saying that so I know we can move on to the next day.
-No talking at Night (except for Mafia).
-No communication about this game outside of this topic, except between Mafia members. If you have anything to say about the game, say it in here. Mafia can of course talk with other Mafia anytime and any way they want. Also, in this game, the Virgins may interact with each other.
-No talking once you are dead. I'll allow 1 post saying something like "good game" or "good luck" or "argh" or whatever, but don't post anything that could help anyone figure something out.
-No editing posts. If you want to add 1 sentence to a post you just made, that's OK, but never remove content from your posts, and never change posts that are more than a few minutes old.
-No deleting posts. Same idea as above. Basically, all players need to have equal access to all the information in this topic. If you take something out, that unbalances the game. If something needs to be modded, I will ask a mod to do it.
-If you aren't in the game, please don't post. No matter how obvious it is to you who the mafia is, let the players figure it out themselves.
-Don't post any kind of picture of your role PM as proof of who you are. You have to convince people with your words, not with your PrtScn button (or your photoshopping skills).
-If you break these rules, you may be modkilled by me. A modkill counts as that day's lynch.

Story
NOTE: Goose has graciously agreed to do the lynch stories, so each time there's a lynch, Goose will post, I gave him everyone's roles. After that, if someone could lock the topic for night, that would be great. If it's not possible, please restrain yourselves from posting.

It was a great day. Friday. The board decided to hold a party in an unknown location, namely some kind of epic bar. It was simply great, because everyone was getting drunk all over the place. No-one knew what they were doing, and they were having the time of their lives. However, late at night, a scream came from the toilets. The gang rushed there to see what had happened. They found Lenny on the floor, clutching his crotch. He spoke:

..I was.. raped by a gang of girls...please.. kill them for me...

In Hiding said "Wait a minute, I thought only guys were capable of rape. Doesn't that mean that YOU'RE a girl?"

Lenny said "You wanna check..?" with his last words and he lay limp on the floor.

A quick feel by Pobre was enough to tell them that he actually was a guy.


Lenny has been killed. He was the unlockable random character, the guy with crazy hair that made him look like a girl.

"I KNEW IT!!!!" exclaimed dragondragon.

Everyone wanted to know who the killer was, so they checked all the escape routes of the club to see if someone had gone. Everything turned out to be tightly locked from the outside. How convenient. The conclusion was drawn that among the men, there were some girls hiding that had to be killed. I mean seriously, these were girls that could KILL through rape!

In Hiding: "I'm telling you girls can't rape, technically..."


I'm gonna send out all the role PMs now, feel free to post for the time being

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Etch on 02/25/09 at 22:26:02

Honko hasn't been posting here yet, pretty suspicious. :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Extol on 02/25/09 at 22:28:51

honko might be bowser

...o wait, wrong game....

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Adam L on 02/25/09 at 22:29:23

Honko, why aren't you defending yourself?  Do you see it as a lost cause?

vote:Honko

That's one girl down.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:29:25

April is a girl.  In this game, girls are bad.  By some logical property, April is therefore bad.

Vote: Padzup

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Padzup on 02/25/09 at 22:29:48

who the fuck is honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:30:31

rofl 13 posts thats gotta be a new record for suck and fail

Doublevote: Padzup

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Adam L on 02/25/09 at 22:31:13

unvote
vote: AlexPenev


Current Votecount:
AlexPenev - enough to kill

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Padzup on 02/25/09 at 22:32:17

NO IM THE REAL HONKO

Vote: Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Kmacc on 02/25/09 at 22:32:26

As much as I want to vote spazzup(padzup), I can't because according to pulsar, he's a needledick.  :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Padzup on 02/25/09 at 22:33:21

kmacc is dominatrix

just so you all know / calling it

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Padzup on 02/25/09 at 22:34:39


062D2A362B440 wrote:
rofl 13 posts thats gotta be a new record for suck and fail

Doublevote: Padzup

its 15 now noob

I MEAN 16!!!! SUCK IT

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:35:03

16, bad at math guy

lets get some more pages on this bitch before everyone else shows up.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Adam L on 02/25/09 at 22:35:34

Padzup edited his post, modkill.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Padzup on 02/25/09 at 22:35:54

hey that's against the rules you can't call me out for editing a post when it's against the rules to edit in this thread!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Adam L on 02/25/09 at 22:36:54

He admitted to it, MODKILL.

Also, where the fuck is my role PM Lenny?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:36:55

you're not making any sense cuntzup

speak english

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Padzup on 02/25/09 at 22:37:39


6847524E474875524F48554948260 wrote:
vote
honko


edited to bold

stinson did it first and only one modkill a day sooooooooo

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:38:53

making up fake quotes?

doublemodkill imho

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Adam L on 02/25/09 at 22:41:20

Lenny is hesitant to do it because Stinson and Padzup have power roles, and considering their posts in the thread so far, they're mafia.

Kill 'em both.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Padzup on 02/25/09 at 22:42:46

yea well

HONKO HAS COOTIES

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Extol on 02/25/09 at 22:43:59

honko and padzup are both posting too much, they must be town cause theyre trying to figure out whos mafia

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:44:58

Hey guys I have an excellent idea.  Even though Extol has not displayed any scummy behavior, let's lynch him as quickly as possible!

Unvote
Vote: Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Extol on 02/25/09 at 22:48:30

CUNT!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:50:41

Was that a confession?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Etch on 02/25/09 at 22:51:58

After I said Honko wasn't posting much, he quickly got trigger happy with the reply button and is trying to shift blame to Padzup with this bogus argument.

They are both mafia trying to look like town or are just very stupid.

If Extol is a T-Rex I say lynch him.  Extinct those motherfuckers. :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Adam L on 02/25/09 at 22:55:26

Etch's name is only four characters, which is at LEAST one less character then myself, Padzup, Honko, or Extol.  He seems to be trying to avoid having a long, flashy name that would catch too much attention.  Mafia much?

fake edit - Girl is also four characters.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Honko on 02/25/09 at 22:56:52

what does the L in Adam_L stand for?  could it be Lawyer, as in Single Female Lawyer?  you cant hide from me, WOMANZ.

Unvote
Hyper Uppervote: Adam_L

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Extol on 02/25/09 at 22:57:53


755E594558370 wrote:
Was that a confession?


no, it was a statement
cunts will die!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by Lenny on 02/25/09 at 23:04:28

I have sent out all the role PMs now. Day will last for 72 hours, and will end at:
6pm AEST
2am EST
7am GMT
on Sunday 1st of March

With 28 players alive, 15 votes are needed to make a lynch.

All votes before this post are disregarded


owned

Title: Re: Girl Mafia
Post by sully on 02/25/09 at 23:10:27

Well not much to go on at this point.  Hi everyone.  I'll be sure to guide you all through this with superior intellect.  As of now, I know almost nothing.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/25/09 at 23:17:28

This is the first time in my life I'll be glad to say I'm a needledick.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/25/09 at 23:22:30

haha, im glad to say it too.
those cunts must really be feeling put down :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 00:21:20

Okay guys, last game I spoke a lot on opinion, and nonsensical blabber was the majority result of my posts.  This game I'll try to keep it simple and straight.

There are 21 towns and 7 mafias.  We have a 3 to 1 advantage right now.  That means that for every four people we lynch, one should be a townie.  The night actions are going to fuck us over, as the mafia will rule.

Town hopes right now: Mafia is made up of at least 3 people who will not play or are morons; Mafia is not made up of 3 or more experienced players.

If the mafia doesn't meet both of those criteria, we should be in good shape.

As we kill and they kill, we need to protect ourselves.  If we lynch a mafia by day, it may be best to be conservative at night!  I think the game seems to be in our favor, so by taking the full time each day to make a kill will enable us to come out on top.

The people who spammed the first two pages are a result of Cooper locking the sign up topic for no reason at all.  That was a terrible move.

Now I have to sleep, I will not be able to check in on this topic for at least 13 hours, probably more.

Don't fuck shit up when I'm gone.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/26/09 at 00:25:29


5E5F595641320 wrote:
All votes before this post are disregarded[/b]

owned

lmao

Ok, let's time for some random vote XD

Vote : Scott because I don't want to read like 15 pages of post the next time I'll be there ::) ;D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 00:27:29

What the fuck, you fucking cunt.  Look at this shit did you even read my post? You son of a fucking bitch READ SHIT YOU FUCKING IDIOT.  See, this is what is wrong with the town, half of us are a bunch of FUCKING MORONS.

READ MY MOTHER FUCKING LIPS:

Quote:
Okay guys, last game I spoke a lot on opinion, and nonsensical blabber was the majority result of my posts.  This game I'll try to keep it simple and straight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/26/09 at 00:36:55

Oh, I've just noticed your post above my first one [smiley=lolk.gif] I was writing mine when you post yours :-[
Calm down, I'm sorry for this :P

unvote

I have to leave the board as well for about 7-8 hours for now :S

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/26/09 at 00:39:19

Don't mind Scott, he's always on his period.

vote: Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/26/09 at 01:12:30

Scott's instant explosion of emotions seems very womanish.

Vote: Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/26/09 at 01:19:57

Vote: Scott too  :D
Because he laughed at me in an other topic and was very nasty.  ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/26/09 at 01:21:24

Vote: Darius

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/26/09 at 01:23:14

Wait, Darius is playing?  Oh man.

Unvote
Vote: Darius


Can't stop the AAA!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 03:19:16

I'm not going to be so open this town about my role as a townie but i do have one. (this is to protect myself). Unfortunately as I did well in the last game I'm probably a strong target - please roleblock me if you can.

At the moment i'm swaying that Isthatagoodthing is a townie.

Extol however needs some convincing.

Vote Extol.

p.s If you are a quiet player, speak up or i'll be voting for you throughout.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/26/09 at 03:43:28

What you said looks pretty suspicious BTW.  [smiley=happy.gif]
How can you be so sure that Isthatagoodthing is a towny?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/26/09 at 04:32:31

I'm town, just to clarify for those early doubters  :P I'm quite surprised to see that, as a complete Mafia newbie, I have two votes already, although I should have expected it from an AAA member who's jealous of my kart skills. However, last time I checked, Sully wasn't an AAA member, and he must have known Robin would jump on the lynch Austin bandwagon. For that reason, I'd like to see what Sully has to say about voting me, although I imagine it was so he could see what I'd have to say about not being Mafia.

Vote: Sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/26/09 at 05:08:05


754F68545D487D7B535358685455525B3C0 wrote:
There are 21 towns and 7 mafias.  We have a 3 to 1 advantage right now.

I think we should lynch whoever we collectively think is going to contribute least to the game. Maybe they'll contribute less just by visiting less often, and will either talk rarely or skip days and not use their power (if they have one) as often as they should. At this point in the game anyone is as good as anyone else at being a potential mafia, so we might as well pick on the people who visit General less often.
Going by the list, the following people should clarify if they're going to "play the game" or not:
SuperYoshi1, Sportsguy001, Sword, MVT, Kevin Booth.

Going alphabetically (that's unbiased), I'm picking... Kevin.

vote: Kevin



574B4C4E4250445B12230 wrote:
I'm not going to be so open this time about my role as a townie but i do have one. Unfortunately ... I'm probably a strong target - please roleblock me if you can.
So you're saying you've got a townie power role, and yet you want to be roleblocked. Being roleblocked doesn't save you from getting killed, UNLESS your power is a power that is bad for townies (such as the gun-totting lunatic). Did you really mean to say 'roleblock'? Are you the gun lunatic?



Damn, my role is so useless =( Lenny, I want to be able to do things at night!!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/26/09 at 05:25:36

Hopefully my past games won't be held against me.

Vote Penev

Nothing against him except he already has so much power on the mb and the possible threat against my sister. ;D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 05:48:38

What I am saying Alex is i'm a townie who's probably in line for getting lynched early on. If you can stop it then do so as you will a) save a townie b) save someone who is relatively new to mafia game but has a good record in the last game and c) I have a power role (I think its best at this point not to say which one).

And Alex, if you think people haven't shown some of their hand yet then look again.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/26/09 at 06:04:19

well I guess it makes sense Alex Picked me, afterall I confessed last game that I was mafia, even though I was not in the game, and I actually got 2 votes then :)

Well too early to make any real judgment for me, but I do know that since Honk ran the last one, that guy if he's a mafia is way too good to keep in the game, so I'll take my chances.

VOTE: HONKO

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/26/09 at 07:37:48

No point fuck-arsing around.

vote: penev

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 07:45:49

Its the "no-reason" voting which frustrates me. Everyone should say why they are voting or it contributes nothing. You may as well state you are voting out of provocation if you are!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/26/09 at 07:49:09

unvote

vote: In Hiding

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 07:50:18

cheers

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 07:51:17

This early in the game, I dont think anybody really has any reasons to vote for people. im gonna wait a while til somebody slips up or gives hints or something..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by nstinson on 02/26/09 at 07:52:38

the  main point of no reason voting and changing is to gauge people's reactions IMO :-p

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/26/09 at 07:57:52

I've have some bad internet issues, so I may not be online within the next 24 hours after this post [smiley=dead.gif]

Seeing how In hiding and Syzygy did well at the previous game, I think they will be helpful for us if they are townies... but would likely be the main targets of the mafia guys :-/
I haven't checked yet if there are some protecting roles... if there aren't any in this game it will complicated to block the mafia and save the power roles... :-X

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 08:02:39

Extol, are you mafia?


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 08:05:49

nope, are you?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/26/09 at 08:07:08

Extol is mafia, fo fooking sho.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 08:10:55

Do you read my posts? @ Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 08:12:27

lol, i am not :P

are you, %hat?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 08:13:42

@ in hiding- yes, i read youre posts, which one are you referring to?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/26/09 at 08:19:12

Ok there is a Bodyguard in the game but there is only 1/2 chance that the protecting ends to be successful... this guy will have to be a bit lucky to block the mafia :(


0528213C14212A2132440 wrote:
I think we should lynch whoever we collectively think is going to contribute least to the game. Maybe they'll contribute less just by visiting less often, and will either talk rarely or skip days and not use their power (if they have one) as often as they should. At this point in the game anyone is as good as anyone else at being a potential mafia, so we might as well pick on the people who visit General less often.
Going by the list, the following people should clarify if they're going to "play the game" or not:
SuperYoshi1, Sportsguy001, Sword, MVT, Kevin Booth.


Well I agree with this, but why am I in the list, I visit the board everyday for usually some hours :-X
Btw I'm ready to really play the game this time (at least when I'll get a better connection tomorrow :-[) I don't won't to leave the game with only 3 posts like the previous game...

Tbh I don't really know who to lynch now (27 people is a lot, and half of them haven't even posted yet) anyway the first lynch will just be highly random [smiley=lolk.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/26/09 at 08:22:06

vote: In Hiding

Stop saying what you are and begging us to protect you, it's annoying.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/26/09 at 08:27:56

These first few days are going to be hard to figure out much of anything. The best way we can start to get ideas is to see who isn't being lynched during the night by mafia. Mafia is obviously going to target strong players who are very experienced. If those players stay alive after a few days then it's either very suspicious or a miracle.

There's really nothing we can see right off the bat right now, except that Tom once again claiming a power role is suspicious. Although he did this in the last game and was telling the truth and probably played the biggets role in getting the townie win, he could be using this strat again to try and look innocent and play a big help. Meanwhile, we could be trusting him due to his well played game last time around, and he could be mafia.

vote: In Hiding

Why should we trust you this time around for sure for the time being at least?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/26/09 at 08:28:11

Yeahh, like in the previous game, the first time that I post there are almost 50 posts before mine xD.


534F484A4654405F16270 wrote:
Its the "no-reason" voting which frustrates me. Everyone should say why they are voting or it contributes nothing. You may as well state you are voting out of provocation if you are!


Post of the day. IMO is silly vote right now against someone, at least until we have listened the rest of players.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/26/09 at 08:30:08

Well, this game is going to be much different from the previous game, considering that we don't have a sure-fire protection role (like yoshi in the last game). The only thing we have is the "Clingy Whipped Boy", and he has a 50% chance of dying if he protects someone.

The town special roles need to be much more careful this game to avoid being killed by the mafia at night. If they get killed, we would be leading into a serious disadvantage, espescially with three powerful roles on the mafia side (Silencer, Dominatrix, Lawyer... Overkill much on dangerous roles?).

Another thing we need to seriously avoid is having the Cockbite killed. If this happened, then the mafia could easily bandwagon votes without us knowing, and could lead to us being killed MUCH faster.

Finally, I think we should draw out today for as long as possible, questioning the people who don't talk, and gathering as much info as possible before making a vote. If we don't have enough information, I vouch for no lynch. We have a much bigger chance of killing a special townie role or townie if we lynch someone today compared to the next day when we have more information.

Vote: No Lynch

This is my vote for the next couple of hours until I get more information on who's talking or not.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/26/09 at 08:40:25

Matt may be right for this time around, but we still need to throw random votes around at the very least, to try and get people to talk and hopefully slip up and say something suspicious if they're mafia. If we all were to just vote on no-lynch right now, we'd get absolutely nowhere. Even if we end up no-lynching, we need to at least try and make some kind of effort to get information during the day.

Btw @ Lenny, you have a typo on one of the roles  :P

1 x Skirt Lifter - You are the Skirt Lifter, the Town Cop! Each night you choose someone to skirt lift/investigate. You will know if they are aligned with the town or village.

Should be town or mafia!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/26/09 at 08:44:33

Kmacc, read the bottom of my post, I haven't decided who I want to question yet.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/26/09 at 08:49:13

Ahh didn't see that, sorry. I was basically just regarding to the no lynch vote. You can still question any random person anyway even if you don't know who you really want answers from. At least it gets more info around.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 08:54:50

Ah so the game has started.  I'd love to get Scott out early; last game he drove everyone insane but I don't think he'd be so passionate if he wasn't innocent.  Also, In Hiding was our best player in the last game so it would be good to keep him around for a while.  If he's mafia then we could be in trouble; he's one to watch.

Vote: Honko

He was mafia in the last game and he reeks like a CUNT.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 09:00:31


273A362D2E757A75420 wrote:
@ in hiding- yes, i read youre posts, which one are you referring to?


My first one where I explain I am a townie?

Kmacc, i'm a townie, looking at the odds, they're pretty high I would get another power role which ever side I would've been on. It will be hard for me to prove my power role. The fact you are accusing me even though we're mates off the forum makes me think you are mafia.

Current Mafia List =
Extol
Flo
Kmacc


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/26/09 at 09:07:55

It's not like I'm throwing a definite accusation on you, I just wanted a bit more information out of you. What else can we do right now besides get info out of people by throwing some votes around? At the moment, we have nothing else to evaluate, because no night actions have taken place yet..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 09:12:53

Chillout, we have until Sunday.  

Pulsar reckons Padzup is both cunt and needledick, so how shall we decide?

Unvote

Giving it time ^

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 09:16:07

lol @ flo being mafia :P
if he was mafia i dont think hed be able to contain himself.








Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 09:17:49

can we give a half a vote to padzup?

like vote: padzup
;)


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 09:28:15

It's not in the rules.  What do you expect?  I suppose that a half lynch would result in him having his NEEDLEDICK removed.  Then he'd be a cunt for sure.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/26/09 at 09:45:03


4C515D46451E111E290 wrote:
This early in the game, I dont think anybody really has any reasons to vote for people. im gonna wait a while til somebody slips up or gives hints or something..


Unvote
Vote Extol


While this seems like logical thinking, it is also what someone who was mafia has said in one of the first two games.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/26/09 at 09:49:36

Extol, you were really quiet last game and were mafia.  Give us reason not to vote for you this time.

Vote: Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/26/09 at 09:54:24

Just applying some pressure.

Unvote
Vote: Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/26/09 at 09:55:50

I don't see anything wrong with voting a Lynch early.  I got a couple days to change my mind, and with all these people in the game, chances are I will.  But for now, no change in my vote.  Probably won't have as much fun last time as I had pissing off Goose and getting him to vote for himself lol.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 09:56:38

The reason I did well in the last game?

Anyone who says that no one can see or vote anyone properly just yet is either a) not on my level or b) mafia and trying to put people off.

There has been about 5 things i've picked up on so far.

Kmacc - you may not be mafia but while you vote for me - i'll be voting for you (or you'll be on the list).

My list is a reference point for myself but also for anyone else who wants to know who i'm suspecting is mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 09:56:58

Anyone want to keep track of votes?  If noone else does I will, just being in Aus will be awkward for Lenny.  We also need someone to close the thread when nights start when lenny isn't here.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 10:04:20

Scott - 1 vote - Flo
Darius - 1 vote - Honko
Extol - 4 votes - In Hiding, Sportsguy, Oneshot, Sully
Sully - 1 vote - Darius
Kevin - 1 vote - Penev
Honko - 1 vote - Booth
In Hiding - 3 votes - %Hat, Adam, KMacc

Not voting - look at the list of players on the first page.

Correct me if I'm wrong.



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 10:05:26

@ drag- i wasnt mafia last game, and im not this game

@ sportsguy- while that may be true, many people have said it, both mafia and town, and in my case, town, cause i actually am trying to figure stuff out this time instead of be mostly quiet, cause i saw where it got me last time. I just dont want to be wrongly accused again, townies like to live!

@ everyone- we need to get off to a good start this time, and lynch someone who actually IS mafia, not a bunch of needledicks like me



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/26/09 at 10:06:35

Right I'd just like to say from the start. I'm not mafia  :(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 10:08:02

Early lynches generally aren't much of a concern.  It's when it gets to day 3/4 when it gets interesting.  The last game we lynched you and brutus without really thinking it through and it almost fucked us.  That's the only reason why I'm reluctant to vote at the moment.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/26/09 at 10:12:32

I have the ability to lock a topic.  so "night" as in Sunday?  

Wow Honk only has one vote now.  Well I guess the populous has changed their vote, but probably shouldn't just yet cause everyone might think I'm a Mafia Bandwagoner, so I'll hold off for now in changing my vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 10:15:36

I am soo confident that Extol is mafia that if he's not then you guys can vote me off the and I wont give a fuck (even if you'll lose another townie). My hunches are columbo's hunches.

Anyone else notice how quiet Flo1 has been since I called him out as Mafia? I've seen him looking at the topic too. lol - so bait.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/26/09 at 10:17:47

I'm with Tom. But I suspect he's mafia aswell.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/26/09 at 10:18:02

I certainly don't think early voting is a problem, especially when we're going to take 15 votes just to lynch one person. I think people are less likely to slip up if there's no pressure being put on them and it's also a useful tool to see which players are and aren't attacked by others.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/26/09 at 10:18:31

Sorry Extol.  I was thinking you were Ariath for some reason  lol.  Thanks for speaking up though   :P

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 10:18:49


143A2936311D30302B375F0 wrote:
I have the ability to lock a topic.  so "night" as in Sunday?  

Wow Honk only has one vote now.  Well I guess the populous has changed their vote, but probably shouldn't just yet cause everyone might think I'm a Mafia Bandwagoner, so I'll hold off for now in changing my vote.


Yeah if Lenny isn't on and the day ends because of whatever reason that would be helpful.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/26/09 at 10:19:01

Vote: Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 10:28:20

I'm going out drinking (alot) now, so i'll not be on for the next few hours. Will try to catch up tonight when i get in and i hope there is some more activity.

I hope for gods sake that either flo or extol come out with something to save themselves cause they're looking like sitting ducks.

btw - I swear on my families life i'm a townie!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/26/09 at 10:44:24


Quote:
btw - I swear on my families life i'm a townie!


xD. Being honest, when I see that affirmation in previous mafia game I inmediately thought that you were mafia but you appear like DK; so I don't think that you will try to do it twice in a row if you were mafia, so I believe you.
BTW, it's true that Extol seems suspicious cause the way he's acting, but before I give my vote I will like to hear him deffense.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/26/09 at 10:46:15

I'm reading in...no clue what to expect yet, but I'll vote later as I see what everyone else has to say.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 10:52:37

Tom: Why in the world did you go out in your first post and say "Guys I'm a townie with a special role, someone better roleblock me?"  This doesn't make any sense!  Within three nights you will most likely be killed.  Even if someone does roleblock you tonight (maybe you meant protect?), they probably won't be roleblocking you tomorrow night or the next night, and the mafia will just nip you off like nothing.  I want a clear explanation to this behavior, now.

Town: Yes it may not seem very important for someone to have only a handful of votes now, when 15 are required to lynch, but you have to think about it differently!  All that needs to take place is for the mafia member to have the majority of the votes at the end of 72 hours.  It will probably only require 7-9 votes to actually kill someone at the end of Day 1, here.  What we need to do for sure is keep probing, but not so damn pointlessly.  In the posts that I read since I last checked in, about 3/4 of the banter is so nonsensical that it cannot help at all!  This is like people saying about one line then doing nothing, or voting for someone and walking away.  Sean has been doing this a lot :( .  You guys keep saying "Oh, it's okay, we can just throw votes anywhere right now as it's just fun and games," but that's not what it is!  This game needs to be taken seriously, we cannot just start lynching people for no reason.

Alex: I agree completely with your post about knocking off the people who aren't playing first.  These people are not going to help us out by being on the team (perhaps giving a last-second vote to finish the proper lynch, etc.), so they shouldn't be in the game.  Perhaps the town can actually use the large numbers of the game to its advantage.  If we only kill "suckers" the first 3 Days, perhaps, our ratio of town to mafia will stay pretty good at that point.  If we consider that there are three of these "suckers" for the town right now who will not contribute anything, we may as well consider the ratio 18 to 7 right now.  Those three can be freely killed!

Town: We need to get a list going of who is available to post within the last hour or so of Day 1.  By having a group of at least 8 there, we should be able to put the vote on the proper person.  Maybe we can start a sign-up for anyone who will be on the forums, able to post, at the end of Day 1.  This will keep the innocent guy sitting at 12 votes from being lynched, as we will be able to outvote the current vote at that time.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 10:55:07

April, taking a bit from Sean's vocabulary, don't be a mug!

You can't just walk in here acting like a total tard and expect people to give a shit what you're saying.  Don't just vote because other people are voting one way or another, vote because YOU think that person is guilty.  Do not let yourself be swayed by anyone else's thoughts this early on, as they are just as clueless as you and there's no reason they should be spouting off accusations already.  If you're going to play like a dummy you'll have to be removed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/26/09 at 11:00:08

^Well thank you for pointing out the obvious :)


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Brutus on 02/26/09 at 11:15:12

Vote: Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/26/09 at 11:16:19

Unvote

Lots of votes very quickly on Extol.  I don't like that.  He hasn't done anything suspicious at all yet.  Pressure votes are ok, but don't stack them so high so early.

I absolutely hate Tom's logic.  It's terrible.  You played well with your night actions last game, but perhaps that was luck because you're not thinking very clearly right now.  Why would you claim to have a power role on Day 1 when we only have 1 protecting role and it's only 50% effective?  If you're really a power role, you've opened yourself up to being killed early.  If you're mafia, it's a clever play to try and trick the town into keeping you, because everyone remembers how valuable you were as a power role last game.

There is no reason for you to not reveal your specific role now.  You've said you have a power role so mafia will probably already be targeting you early.  So what do you have to lose by claiming a role?  If you tell us your role, and nobody comes out and says they have the same role to prove you're lying, then we know you're 100% confirmed town until you die and can trust whatever you say.  If you refuse to reveal your role, that makes your play look pretty suspicious.

And whoever said I was mafia last game...I wasn't.  I was just a (pretty bad) townie.

I'm busy the rest of the day, and part of tomorrow as well, so I probably won't be posting for the next 24 hours or so.  I'm gonna save my vote till then when more has happened, but I'm going to be suspicious of Tom until he either claims his role or gives an extremely good reason for refusing.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/26/09 at 11:26:37


4A70576B627742446C6C67576B6A6D64030 wrote:
Tom: Why in the world did you go out in your first post and say "Guys I'm a townie with a special role, someone better roleblock me?"  This doesn't make any sense!  Within three nights you will most likely be killed.  Even if someone does roleblock you tonight (maybe you meant protect?), they probably won't be roleblocking you tomorrow night or the next night, and the mafia will just nip you off like nothing.  I want a clear explanation to this behavior, now.

^this
Why the hell would you try to defending yourself when no one hasn't even voted for you at that moment ?
Also you asked for people to protect you if possible. Scott did this in the previous game, and I have seen this as a mafia plan to save his ass; I would have voted him w/o any doubt if I was still there. (he turned out to be townie though...)

I think now that Tom is pretty suspicious. I think the same thing about Flo1 as well according to his long silence, but I don't understand that shit about Extol and Kmacc being mafia, that doesn't make really sense :-/ those people jumping on the Extol bandwagon such as sully or oneshot are more suspicious imo
I thought also that Scott could be mafia seeing his reaction after my post, but since he acts like in the previous game, he might be again a simple townie.
And there's still some players who haven't posted yet, it would be good to lynch them if they still get silent, even though if there are townies, we'll see tomorrow, but for now :

Vote : In hiding

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/26/09 at 11:35:00

Unvote
Vote: In Hiding


I agree with others that Tom's statements seem kind of strange.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/26/09 at 11:38:50

SuperYoshi is highly suspicious imo.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/26/09 at 11:47:37


3B2720222E3C28377E4F0 wrote:
[quote author=273A362D2E757A75420 link=1235628670/50#62 date=1235664822]@ in hiding- yes, i read youre posts, which one are you referring to?


My first one where I explain I am a townie?

Kmacc, i'm a townie, looking at the odds, they're pretty high I would get another power role which ever side I would've been on. It will be hard for me to prove my power role. The fact you are accusing me even though we're mates off the forum makes me think you are mafia.

Current Mafia List =
Extol
Flo
Kmacc

[/quote]

I didn't accuse you anytime  :-? I said that what you said was suspicious.
unvote
Vote: In Hiding

Because he seems to feel guilty.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Brutus on 02/26/09 at 11:54:31

unvote

Vote: Flo1

I have a feeling that he is mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 12:27:22


7E585D485F74425E45441C2D0 wrote:
Also you asked for people to protect you if possible. Scott did this in the previous game, and I have seen this as a mafia plan to save his ass; I would have voted him w/o any doubt if I was still there. (he turned out to be townie though...)

Yeah, but if you had read the rest of the topic you would see that (I don't see how you didn't at first) that post was part of a complete mockery of the 5 or so townies who were following everything I (a total mafia game rookie) was saying at a point as late as Day 5.  I was very displeased with the town's play at that point and I hope the same doesn't happen this game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/26/09 at 13:02:07


292F6B6B235A0 wrote:
Unvote
Vote: In Hiding


I agree with others that Tom's statements seem kind of strange.


This is the second time you've jumped on a bandwagon, care to explain why?

Vote: Sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 13:09:33

Fucking 5 pages to read when I wake up in the morning... geeeeez...

Well, all that I've seen thus far is that Tom and Honko put on a pressure vote to Flo1 and someone else (I forgot who it was), and Flo1 hasn't defended himself in the least.

Right now I'm going to wait it out and see how I feel before I throw out a vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/26/09 at 13:16:28

Matt's decision to vote no-lynch even temporarily is a bit alarming, last game he was completely against it. KMaCc questioned it but oddly enough nobody has voted for him so far. He brings up some good points but ultimately may be using that to gain everyone's trust; after last game it seems that everyone trusts him enough to not suspect him but not too much to notice that he may be using it as an advantage. He's always been neutrally oriented so it strikes me as odd that he would play up the conservative side so early.

Vote: karterfreak


382423212D3F2B347D4C0 wrote:
Anyone who says that no one can see or vote anyone properly just yet is either a) not on my level or b) mafia and trying to put people off.


Absolutely. Overall there is no point in "waiting" for info to come about because the only way it's going to is if people start talking, even if it's just mafia trying to throw everyone off. Town would have been raped if not for a couple key players last game and I'm still seeing that lack of cooperation now.

Though I guess it's hard to tell what mafia is doing. Most likely they're trying to draw attention to themselves right now so people will change their minds to vote for townies later.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 13:17:41

Home from school now... only 5 pages this time?

From what I've read, people are throwing out random votes, and jumping on bandwagons all over the place. Not a good idea. I'm personally in favor of No lynch, but I'm going to go with Brutus on this one. Flo is definitely the most suspicious in my book. If Tom is mafia, we can always lynch him later, especially if someone else claims his role.

Vote: Flo1


I'm not mafia this time, so expect more posts from me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/26/09 at 13:23:30

Padzup, you obviously didn't pay much attention to last game. I was agreeing with no-lynch under the assumption that we wouldn't have enough information to make an educated lynch, same as this mafia game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/26/09 at 13:36:17


6D677472637459607463676D060 wrote:
This is the second time you've jumped on a bandwagon, care to explain why?


Just want to see how people are going to react.  Maybe people will react more strongly if they see 5 votes against themselves than 1.  Given the odds, I dont see too much point in lynching someone at the moment, but I dont mind throwing my vote around to see what happens.  I dont know why Tom would say already that he has a power role, unless he's just feeling invincible after the last game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/26/09 at 13:42:45

^I shared Matt point of view respect the lynch. In the last game I didn't vote until I have the enough proofs that Goose was Mafia, and I will do the same in this game.
It seems that the eyes of everyone are around Flo. In his last post he tried to build a deffense accusing Tom, and some more people have jumped in that bandwagon. At the moment I won't follow any of it, game have just started 15 hours ago; we have almost 60 hours until the end of the day and there are many people who haven't posted, so when I wake up tomorrow I hope to see more participation of unactive persons.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/26/09 at 13:43:06

Fair enough, but we aren't going to get anywhere by going the no-lynch route. Avoiding stupid lynches doesn't mean not lynching at all is a better option. If we can't trust ourselves to be able to make informed decisions then we're going to lose pretty quickly. Mafia is likely composed of smart/experienced players and they aren't going to let us figure them out that easily if they can help it. Also keep in mind we have three days, the vote tally is most likely going to be completely different from what it is now. We may as well get the boring stuff out of the way so we can concentrate on voting properly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/26/09 at 14:11:56

Padzup seems a little odd.

unvote
vote: Padzup

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/26/09 at 14:12:31

I explained the reasons behind my vote. I'm agreeing with Thomas.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 14:14:46

The way I see it, and I think others share this view, is that we have 3 options.
1. We lynch a random person, then mafia kills a townie: This could result in 20-6 (25%) or 19-7 (75%).
2. We lynch a person who will do nothing. Same possible results as above, but the 20/19 of us that are left will know how to work together, and we have less dead weight.
3. We don't lynch anyone. This will result in 20-7 (100% chance).

Honestly, no lynch is the safest way, as we lose less ground on the mafia, but the downside is that we have no choice to kill a mafia. For those that want to lynch, are you feeling lucky?
Town should definitely make up its mind in the next day so that we have two days to figure out who to lynch.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/26/09 at 14:25:24

^Howes, your plan is right, but I find a fail: if we lynch someone, we will vote for him because we have something that proof he's mafia or it make us thinking he could be mafia; so it's not a random vote like tossing a coin, the possibilities of kill a mafia are higher in our case.
But of course is silly lynching without proofs, cause that is making a random vote; so if we don't know who to vote before Sunday, no-lynch is the best option.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 02/26/09 at 14:39:47

I read a post in here by AlexPenev saying to lynch the people who won't participate ... and I'm on that list. I will be playing in this one, why would I sign up if I planned on not joining in? x]

I don't see the point lynching anyone as of yet, but hopefully as the days pass, more evidence stacks up. I don't agree with no lynch, instead we should lynch people who aren't talking. Most of the mafia last game were real silent and barely spoke, so we could a) get lucky and strike a mafia by voting a quiet one or b) get unlucky and lynch a townie, but that doesn't really matter, as they hadn't contributed anyway, and we'd be getting rid of dead weight.

I'll make a vote at a later stage after having waited for more people to post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 14:43:52

I think Alex's list was just of people that aren't usually in general (usually in game-specific boards), and he was saying that there was a chance that you wouldn't participate, not that you were definitely not going to. The point was just to be a reference of people that would be "safe" lynches, instead of lynching a person that could really help us later on in the game. It has the dual purpose of notifying people that they could be dead weight, and influencing them to post more, as you prove. Posting always helps in this game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 14:57:50

Sword's plan is exactly how the game should be played, and i remember stressing that very same point last game. This game should be no different, although sometimes quiet players are quiet because of the sheer volume of posts by some people, like scott and me last game (sorry for that). I plan on playing a bit more conservatively this game, but dont misconstrue this as being mafia.

And remember, i can see who is watching the topic and not posting, so if youre mafia and i see that youre not posting, ill be convinced that you should be killed. No excuses...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by nstinson on 02/26/09 at 15:08:59


160A0D0F0311051A53620 wrote:
I've seen him looking at the topic too. lol - so bait.



All forum mods/admins really need to post this information, otherwise they have information not available to everyone else. I could have figured more mafia easier last time if I could have seen this info:)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 15:15:50

The only ones that have jumped out at me so far are SuperYoshi and Extol...I will hold my vote for further evaluation of the situation.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 15:32:27

Oh shit, MVT is playing.  We are all doomed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 15:56:56

At one point there were eleven people viewing the topic, now there are three. Sword was on, now hes not, same goes for sully and scott. Speak up...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 15:57:48

Doomed? [smiley=chairshot.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 15:59:45

Where can we see who is viewing?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 15:59:57

Perhaps the people who see who's viewing should just copy and paste that info into the bottom of every post they make here.  That'd be really nice.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 16:04:58

yeah, keep us updated on whos viewing the topic the most without posting, that could be useful.

im getting a little suspicious of sully, he just jumped on the bandwagon the first two votes, and the explanation he gave for it seemed pretty weak imo.

and tom seems suspicious, based on what everyone has already pointed out.



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 16:07:25

Is it a good idea for the town to hold some elections?  We should get a President, Vice President, Secretary, etc.  That way we can have some law and order around these parts!



























[smiley=lolk.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 16:12:03

The only people who can see who is viewing or replying at any given time are mods and admins. Right now penev is replying with me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 16:15:32

Bit unfair surely.  This could give the mafia some advantage :/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 16:16:33

How is it the mafia's advantage to know who is replying and not replying?  They already know who is mafia, lol.  And if one of the mods is lying the other ones would spot it and instantly know he was mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 16:21:27

Now scott is replying with me.

Its only an advantage to the mafia if they have mods and they dont post who is viewing or replying when they are. Im going to continue to post this info from now on...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 16:22:58

Penev didnt post the reply he was writing. We should keep note of that...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/26/09 at 16:30:02

Lol can we disable that during the game?  Sure it's helpful, but it's a lot to read.  Plus Jabes won't on 24/7  :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 16:30:48

Aren't mods playing the game?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 16:30:51

jabes, youre going to be a good asset to the town.. if you are town...
but i wouldnt think youd be doing this if you were mafia, right?


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/26/09 at 16:32:25

Actually I think a better alternative would be to make everyone in the game a mod!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/26/09 at 16:34:07

Extol I don't understand your post style at all :/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/26/09 at 16:35:42

wtf?


If anyone here has any sense, read Extols posts.. and then read all of mine. Extol "I agree with all of you".. umm, why? I'm drunk but i've just read all the posts a few times and there is little reason why people should vote for me.

Can anyone here say so far they have written "I will swear on my families life I am a townie?"???????????????????????????????????

There is one person I am 99% sure of right now and thats Sean, thats because i know him and can read him like a book. He is towie too.

I have a power role, i've not denied anything - not what role i am etc, if you want to know it ask me but no one has. You're inviting mafia to call me out in doing so.

Honko - starting the last game does not make you innocent. You will now join the list.

Suspect List is:

Extol
Flo1
Kmacc - becoming more innocent
Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/26/09 at 16:36:41

Make me a board master in the mean time if you guys think knowing who is viewing the topic is an advantage.

Not everyone has told the truth so far, you guys are better off lynching annoying posters off the bat because they tend to create crazy theories and only help the mafia remain hidden.

Vote: Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 16:36:52

I obviously wont be on the boards 24/7, but the info i get while im on is very useful for the town. Surely it could get tedious to read, but ill post what i find to be important, like when people type a reply for five minutes and then change their mind.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/26/09 at 16:42:52

who did that joe?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/26/09 at 16:44:34

Well as we are the only guarenteed townies, I suggest that myself and Tom become President and Vice-President respectively.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 16:50:58

@ sportsguy- it was penev i believe, joe posted it a little earlier

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 16:57:50


736E62797A212E21160 wrote:
yeah, keep us updated on whos viewing the topic the most without posting, that could be useful.

im getting a little suspicious of sully, he just jumped on the bandwagon the first two votes, and the explanation he gave for it seemed pretty weak imo.

and tom seems suspicious, based on what everyone has already pointed out.



Oh dear, attacking the other two guys that people have claimed are suspicious to hide yourself.  Extol you really are a mafia then.

VOTE: Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/26/09 at 17:11:12


1A39263B3D3A2E3C30797978490 wrote:
Nothing against him except he already has so much power on the mb and the possible threat against my sister. ;D
For the first part, Sully is playing and he has all the powers I have. So you can vote for him.
For the second part, that information will not quickly be forgotten after mafia is finished. So since I will remember that you have a sister, it's in your interest to be nice to me so I can be nice to your sister. This is another reason to vote for Sully. He won't be nice. Maybe you revealed this sister secret as an act of desperation... because I was onto you? Mafia! If I get hit by the mafia, everyone will be suspecting you  ::)



Quote:
No point fuck-arsing around. vote: penev
Lynching me would involve gang raping me. You'll certainly be the one to shotgun the rear position. Therefore, in only a 6 word post, you have already made your first lie. Are you mafia, %hat?

Btw, the mafia might target me just because I'm just fun to kill, so I'm a possible target. But I'll say now that I'm not experienced and this is my first mafia. So I hope I last longer than the 3 days Honko promised me in the signup topic. (If Honko was making promises, maybe he is mafia!). Since the mafia will want to kill me early on anyway, there's no point lynching me. You'll just be giving the mafia an extra kill.



Quote:
Well I agree with this, but why am I in the list, I visit the board everyday for usually some hours
Okay, since you've already posted a few times, it looks like you want to be active.
My new to-lynch list:
Sportsguy001, Sword, MVT, Kevin Booth, %hat.



Quote:
Meanwhile, we could be trusting him due to his well played game last time around, and he could be mafia.
About half the roles given out are powers, so there's a good chance for Tom to be townie and to have a power. Unfortunately we need to figure out what power that is so that we can know if he's lying. If he's asking to be protected, then he is not the protector [only 1]. He did actually say roleblock, though. He asked to be roleblocked. So he's not the roleblocker [only 1].


Quote:
The last game we lynched you and brutus without really thinking it through and it almost fucked us.  That's the only reason why I'm reluctant to vote at the moment.
No, Brutus was just being silly and trying to confuse everyone, but confusion doesn't work against the mafia since they know who is mafia. It only worked against the town. So he really did screw himself over and was asking to be lynched. Nothing wrong with that, and we should do it again -- vote for wheover doesn't look like they'll be helpful in contributing to the townie's main weapon (day lynches).

@Tom: Scott is probably right in his long post (page 3). Town doesn't have protectors in this game. Only one, and he's 50/50. So for you to ask for protection is asking for a lot. If you're not killed within 3 days, you'll be suspected of being mafia and lynched. So perhaps it's best if you play open-handed. Tell us your role, tell us your night action. That way, the protector will read what you have to say and decide if you're worth protecting. He doesn't have to guarantee protection. He can just toss a coin and protect either you or someone else who he thinks is in danger. But a coin toss should be deterrent enough for the mafia not to go for you. But to earn this coin toss, you'll need to convince the protector (not me or any other townie... only the protector) that you're worth a coin toss. Otherwise he probably won't help you. Of course, the mafia may want to let you live for a couple of days to make us suspicious of you. Depends how cunning they are.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/26/09 at 17:14:44

sully wasnt suspicious of me to my knowledge, he just seemed to have a weak explanation to why he jumped on mine and toms bandwagons.

in toms case, maybe it was just retaliation cause he seems sooooo suspicious of me, and i just dont want to get wrongly accused again. let me stress that im in it to help the town win.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 17:21:59

^ No defense at all coming from Extol, finish him off

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 17:27:16

MVT, calm down. Some people just aren't that great at defending themselves, or they unintentionally back themselves into a corner. One example of this is Sportsguy in the first game of mafia.
Mafia could just be trying to instigate a lynch on someone that they think would be easy to get the town behind, if only because the person is not skilled at defending themselves. You are moving up on my list of people to lynch.
Also,


3B613A38323A306464510 wrote:
Not everyone has told the truth so far, you guys are better off lynching annoying posters off the bat because they tend to create crazy theories and only help the mafia remain hidden.


^this

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 17:30:09

There are three people replying right now (including myself, howes and penev).

Sully has been on and off the boards, and im not fully convinced that what penev is doing is trustworthy. I know these people are both admins, but that just happens to be a coincidence.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/26/09 at 17:48:00

@Scott

Quote:
Alex: I agree completely with your post about knocking off the people who aren't playing first.  If we only kill "suckers" the first 3 Days, perhaps, our ratio of town to mafia will stay pretty good at that point.

For one thing, by voting out people who aren't posting we will be guaranteeing that all of the mafia would have posted at least 1 message in the topic. This may be valuable down the track. Messages now may not mean much, but with retrospective analysis near the end could mean a lot.



48787F7E7F790A0 wrote:
Vote: Scott

To-lynch list:
1. Brutus (least helpful)
2. (alphabetical) Kevin, MVT, Sportsguy001, Sword, %hat


Townies: we should not lynch Tom on day 1. This will only help the mafia. If he's a town power they will want him dead. Us lynching him only saves them the effort to do it, which gives them a free kill tonight. That's a terrible idea. This is how it should be played:
We all realise that Tom's play was risky and we all realise that he's in danger now, and if he somehow survives it, then he is suspicious. So we should lynch him on day 3 or day 4*. This way, we screw up the mafia the most. If he is mafia, we kill a mafia on day 4. If he is town, then by day 3 he will reveal us all his actions because he knows he is about to die. If he is really a power, then we promise him to let him use his town power for 3 days (rather than 0 days if we lynch him now). This means the mafia will want to kill him ASAP, because they won't want him using his power (so far it seems he's not a roleblock or protector, so his power might be a good power, like cop).

In summary: don't vote for Tom on day 1-3. If he's still alive, lynch him Day 4, otherwise let the mafia take him out. It only makes sense to lynch him later, to see if the mafia kills him earlier. If they don't, then he's either going to be mafia or he's going to play open-handed for 3 days and tell us his night actions and suspicions. So the town benefits the most this way, I think.

I know a tactic that could have screwed up the mafia with this play if we had a proper protector (maybe you can figure it out), but I don't think we should risk it on Tom since our protector is only a 50/50, and we have only 1.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/26/09 at 17:52:18

For now I will take my vote off of Tom, because he is at least contributing for now.

unvote

vote: Brutus


I want to see Brutus make more thoughtful posts than he has so far and as he'd done in the previous mafia game. For anyone who followed or played in the previous game, they saw Brutus made posts of just voting for people without any logic if any content at all. He confused the town many times and so far he's playing the same way this game.

If he's going to continue this and begin to confuse us more again, then it would be better to get rid of him because he'd only be making it harder for us to come to a conclusion of who is mafia.

To be honest, there's a very good chance he's townie because he was townie last time and played the same way. But since we have no conclusive ideas of any mafia yet, then I will keep my vote on Brutus. This will change obviously if I have more legit suspicion of someone, unless Brutus does nothing to help his case or makes himself look worse and there not being anyone else super suspicious.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 17:54:07

Sean was at his school working this afternoon, so he probably wasn't in a good position to worry about mafia all the time, Joe.

It's already becoming somewhat clear which players are taking this seriously and which aren't.

Behavioral changes for certain players since last game may also become tells.

Anyone here going to start taking notes on players in a text file or anything? I think I might, to help keep my thoughts straight.  Perhaps at a later stage of the game we could share these in the topic if things are getting tense.

As I stated earlier, I'm going to be a very different player from the last game.  No more nonsense like I did the first four days there, and no more total spamming like I did the last three days.  I'm trying to keep everything I say carefully thought out, and I won't post every single suspicion I have, to keep certain people safe, as last game people complained when I tried (unsuccessfully) to peg certain people onto a role, which must be bad behavior.

You'll all have to keep in mind that I'm very inexperienced with this whole thing, but I think I've learned quite a bit from the two games I've played (both here).  I reread the entire 50-page topic of Mario Kart X Mafia after it was over, to see everything in perspective.  Now I at least have a feel for how the solid mafia players played their mafia roles in that game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/26/09 at 18:05:21

I've been jotting down mental notes in a notepad file to make my own conclusions. Right now, from the bit I've read, Scott and Tom and the way they're speaking seem like they could be mafia, but I want to look deeper into it before forming conclusions.

Anyway, I will not be around again until tomorrow afternoon/tomorrow evening, at which time I'll read up and start making my decision on who to lynch.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/26/09 at 18:12:09

Scott,you don't have to completely change the way you played last game. You just need to tone it down... quite a bit. And you can't lead anymore confusing fiascos.

By the way, where has pobre been?  ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 18:15:06

Another note that I think might be important.  When voting I don't think we should use the word Kevin, as we have both Kevin Booth and Kmacc in this game.

Pobre is probably not thinking about this game if he's worried about his other issues at the moment.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/26/09 at 18:15:44

Members viewing this topic (7): Howes, Kmacc, Detective Spril, Nicholas Harvey, IsThatAGoodThing (replying), MVT, Kevin Booth.

See this mystery person does have special powers :)

But ya I read through and I think I am more confused than I was when I started reading.  I was tempted to make a change to Extol cause of the bandwagon vote, but I am still very suspicious of Honko so not changing quite yet, and while not having a ton of votes, is still on a lot of peoples lynch lists.  Right now I very distrust anyone that comes off as experienced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/26/09 at 18:16:06

You could use Kevin for Kevin Booth and Kmacc for myself, that should be fine.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/26/09 at 18:17:59

To those debating no-lynch:


434F5A46434F495B5D1E1D192E0 wrote:
we have 3 options.
1. We lynch a random person, then mafia kills a townie: This could result in 20-6 (25%) or 19-7 (75%).
2. We lynch a person who will do nothing. Same possible results as above
3. We don't lynch anyone. This will result in 20-7 (100% chance).

Honestly, no lynch is the safest way. For those that want to lynch, are you feeling lucky?

Not quite. The 3rd point results in 19-7 because you're giving the mafia a free kill tonight and starting from square one on Day 2. No-lynch sometimes is good for the mafia. Refer to last game. Lenny and Ivo both wanted no-lynch, and both were experienced in mafia.
A no-lynch can be useful later in the game when you're waiting for a cop scan, for example, but with so many people right now a cop's scan isn't likely to be useful. Think of the advantages and disadvantages.

Why nolynch is good:
- we gain a few pages of posts to analyse players
- we gain a free cop scan tonight
- good chance of not losing a townie

Why nolynch is bad:
- gives mafia a free kill
- we were going to get that scan anyway (unless we lynch the cop, which we won't). But the scan won't be useful to the town unless it comes up mafia (which it won't). By lynching, we reduce the number of players, which improves the cop's chance of scanning a mafia.
- we don't get vote patterns because nobody votes for a name
- we will probably lynch a townie by accident today, but it's not like there aren't any townies who we don't want to lynch. Read Brutus's and %hat's posts and you'll see that they aren't planning to be particularly helpful to the town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 18:18:04

Yeah, Pobre hasn't been online since yesterday, so he might not even know that the game has started yet.

With regard to my own posting habits, frankly, last game I played like crap by not speaking. Evidently, I can't be quiet, or else I will fall under false suspicion. We should look for other people changing their posting habits.

btw, I am a 'needledick', unless I am by some bad fortune the transvestite.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 18:21:53

Alex, at that point, I think I was just referring to the standings after Night 1. The other effect of a no-lynch would be that the jailkeeper would be free to use their night action.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/26/09 at 18:25:42

man a lot of admitted needle dicks out there?  Who would even admit that even if it was true, lol.  I'll be keeping my genitalia size or lack of it to myself thank you very much!  But ya, unlike when I wasn't supposed to post I won't be posting the fake mafia wahhahahahahhah stuff again.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 18:40:26

Okay, I just realized I made a mistake in admitting my role. :( If you are a needledick, please do not say so. If you claim to be a needledick, you are only making it easier for the mafia to determine the power roles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 18:42:24

Kevin: In an earlier post I remember you saying you were suspicious of Robin and something that he was a very experienced player.  This is not true.  Robin is about as new to mafia as the rest of us are.  Just because he hosted the last game doesn't mean he is an experienced player.  So keep that in mind.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Brutus on 02/26/09 at 18:45:59


604D445971444F4457210 wrote:
- we will probably lynch a townie by accident today, but it's not like there aren't any townies who we don't want to lynch. Read Brutus's and %hat's posts and you'll see that they aren't planning to be particularly helpful to the town.


I'm not mafia, I swear!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/26/09 at 18:50:14

Brutus didn't have a "fun" role in the last game so he didn't try.

If he has some actual power role this time and it is for the town, it may not be a total loss if he doesn't put it to good use.

If he's mafia, then that's an even better lynch. ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/26/09 at 18:52:17


5E797E64757E7A7F407F677562100 wrote:
There are three people replying right now (including myself, howes and penev).

Sully has been on and off the boards, and im not fully convinced that what penev is doing is trustworthy. I know these people are both admins, but that just happens to be a coincidence.

I read the boards quite a bit, I'm not sure it matters that I dont post every time I read a topic.

And I've been pretty clear that my votes dont really mean much and am just prodding people, sorry if you dont like that tactic.  I think that the more exploratory votes that are cast this first day, the better.  Votes are the only tools we have right now that might actually mean something.  But lynching someone who isn't talking sounds like a reasonable plan to me, I'd go along with that.   For now:

Unvote
Vote: Jabes

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 19:28:15

I have a few questions for Lenny, or anyone else that knows the answers, that have to do with night actions.
Is the watcher's night action considered visiting a house? Is the roleblocker's night action considered visiting a house? Are any of the other mafia's night actions considered visiting a house? (I'm assuming yes, but you can never be sure.

If the mafia tries to kill the gun owner, do both die? If the roleblocker tries to block the gun owner, does the roleblocker die? If the bodyguard protects the gun owner, who dies?
If one of the virgins dies, can the other still make kills?
If the cockbite is killed by the mafia, does their effect still happen? (I'm assuming no)
This could really help to figure out who Tom Is.      

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 19:34:16

Howes you really are exposing yourself and are generally clueless or you are playing some sort of mind game.  I think you are clueless...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 19:43:13

Basically, there aren't too many (town) options as to what Tom could be right now. He is definitely not: bulletproof, roleblocker, bodyguard, transvestite (he wouldn't know), stalker, or gun owner. No matter what role he is, why would he want someone to roleblock him? If he really meant 'protect,' he could be the roleblocker, stalker, virgin, or cop. He might be the lightkeeper, if only because he fears dying and forcing PM votes, which (probably) doesn't happen in the case of a mafia kill. Whichever way you look at it, it is a dumb move, if only because the town doesn't have protectors. :-?  :-/ :-?      

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/26/09 at 19:47:53

MVT, the type of questions Howes asked right there are pretty normal, if you ask me.  Last game I asked all those questions (and many more) to Robin in IRC or IMs.  I just had to try to think out those scenarios haha!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 19:48:32

@MVT- What are you talking about? Those are questions about what night roles have precedence, which can have a major impact in the game. Last game, I incorrectly assumed that Tom's night kills would be used up if he was roleblocked, which, if true, would have made it very easy to take a power role out of the game.
My question to you... how have you contributed, besides bandwagoning on Extol, and calling me dumb? Why shouldn't I vote for you, instead of Flo?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 19:54:24

Vote for Extol, if he was of any value to the town he would at least attempt to defend himself.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 19:57:49

Well, he wanted me to answer a question so I was forced into it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/26/09 at 20:02:10

MVT, do you even read my posts?
unvote
Vote: MVT

Prove your innocence!

I am going to sleep now, I might post around 6:30 a.m. EST, but after that, I'm gone until about 5 p.m. EST.  


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/26/09 at 20:13:04

Idiots never learn.  Why would I be a mafia if I am aggressively pursuing every possible clue?  At least I am not an admitted needledick like you.  Vote for me and pay the price of a mafia advantage over the town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/26/09 at 20:26:53

Pobre needs to start speaking up.  He hasn't made a post yet in this topic and he posts all the time on the boards.  Please state your case so you're not a suspect.

Vote: Pobre

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/26/09 at 20:30:39

You aren't, you're just trying to bandwagon Extol. And failing miserably.

Really MVT you're being pretty stupid. "Why would I be mafia if..." is a classic mafia line which really isn't convincing in the first place. You haven't actually tried to help anyone out thus far so I see no reason to keep you in when the time comes.

For now I'm sticking with my vote for Matt.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/26/09 at 20:32:49

Drag, Pobre is dealing with other stuff right now. If he doesn't post over the next week or so then maybe we could consider a modkill.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/26/09 at 20:36:01

Well last game most of the mafia members were the quiet ones.  He could be just using that as an excuse.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 20:45:42

Why did you vote for me, sully? Im going out of my way to help the town and feed them the informationi think they need.

Right now its tough to decide, since there are so many people playing this time. Mvt is gaining a lot of suspicion points, but i still want to see him talk more before i cast a vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/26/09 at 21:29:43

If something needs to be modded, I will ask a mod to do it.

Modkill Sully

Day 1 Ends, imo xD

Just give me Pobre's Spot, I doubt he read his PM yet.

My previous posts, "Lynch bullshit posters because their conspiracies help mafia remain hidden and how can a person defend random accusations, a witch hunt is not a winning strategy.  These were the same problems early on in the last mafia game."

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/26/09 at 21:46:01

If you missed that, etch posted and I deleted it cuz he isn't playing, forgetting the other rule in doing so, woot.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 21:53:07

I missed that. Anyway, sully, explain your actions.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/26/09 at 21:55:58

What actions are you referring to?  I've been pretty clear saying my votes so far have meant nothing.  Just seeing what effect different actions will have.  Bandwagon voting a mafia may illicit a different response than bandwagon voting a townie.

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/26/09 at 21:59:40

I guess i forgot that you said your votes were nonsense at this point of the game. That was the action i was referring to, because a vote on me seemed a little odd. Throwing out votes and trying to gauge a response is tough right now...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Lenny on 02/26/09 at 22:28:03

Current Votes

3 Extol (In Hiding, Sportsguy001, oneshotbilyII)
3 In Hiding (Adam L, SuperYoshi1, Flo1)
2 sully (Darius, karterfreak)
1 Kevin Booth (AlexPenev)
1 Honko (Kevin)
1 Flo1  (Brutus)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)
1 Padzup (%hat)
1 Brutus (Kmacc)
1 MVT (Howes)

I think

dragondragon: ANYONE who visits the granny is killed, even town roles. 'Choosing' someone at night is also counted as visiting.

I also replaced Pobre with Etch, seeing as Pobre is currently either pre-occupied or doesn't want to play.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/26/09 at 23:29:18


49787171497C71781D0 wrote:
Why would I be a mafia if I am aggressively pursuing every possible clue?  At least I am not an admitted needledick like you.  Vote for me and pay the price of a mafia advantage over the town.

MVT, it sounded like Howes was pursuing information about role precedence. That counts as obtaining clues (about Tom). You called him stupid for doing that, and then you say that it is -you- who are the one pursuing every clue. I haven't seen you pursue any clues yet. What did you mean?

Secondly, what's wrong with admitting to be a needledick? The mafia already know if you're town or not. They're interested in killing off the town powers, not the needledicks. So in your last sentence, where you say that you're not a needledick and that the town will be sorry if the mafia kills you, you're admitting to be a power. That puts you in the same positions as Tom. Either you're going to be killed very soon by the mafia, or if you somehow survive then we townies are going to lynch you in a few days for being suspicious.

Now is your chance to defend yourself.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 02:00:13

LOL, why is it that you are all trying to figure out my role?

Surely if you want to know something ask me? I'll tell you my role if i'm asked, but imho the person who does ask me is 99% going to be mafia (1% stoopid) because a townie wouldn't want my power role to be known.

At the moment I have three votes.. for what? for swearing on my families life i'm a townie? for reading the first couple of posts and knowing already that extol is mafia? for answering all questions put to me?

Why do i want someone to stop me being killed? I already answered that - because I've admitted i'm town with a role which makes me a target - and also because I think after the last game I'm half decent at this and will help the town to win.

You should read Alexs' post about lynching me. If you lynch me today then whats the point? You're doing what the mafia will try to do anyway.. If i'm not lynched then the mafia will be up to some weird tricks.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/27/09 at 02:05:40

Well Tom, I think people may observe the difference in the way you're playing this game and the last. This game you're laying all of your cards on the table and challenging people to make a decision, last game you told everyone your power role and survived through to the end.

I'm a bit confused, but for now I'm on your side.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 03:00:04

yeah I spose I am. Probably down to the fact that I'm still a relative noob to all this and I'm trying new things out a bit. To be honest i was lucky that Extol showed he was mafia so early on (first post? or 2nd?). From there it was just a case of pushing him to confirm my suspicions.

I feel I make better decisions when I am empowered and to do that I need people to contribute.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/27/09 at 03:00:51

Well I've read all the posts since last time I was online.
I haven't enough time for now to make a long post, but basically I agree with Alex's plan for letting Tom alive for some days, although his last post makes him even more suspicious to me (it's like he didn't even read the posts of players who suspected him :-/

unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 03:12:15


Quote:
but imho the person who does ask me is 99% going to be mafia (1% stoopid) because a townie wouldn't want my power role to be known.

If you have a role that reveals information to the town (such as cop or watchman), then I think it's better to play open-handed seeing as you would already be a target for the mafia. Only you and MVT seem to have revealed that you've got a power. So it might be better to give the town any info you have rather than let that info die with you.
If you have a different role that doesn't reveal info to the town, then perhaps you should keep it secret. However, if the mafia hasn't killed you by day 3-4, then I think the town is going to start looking at you suspiciously because that would mean the mafia was happy to let a role claimer use his power for several days without getting assassinated. It's not like the mafia have any better targets at the moment. You already showed last game that you were good at picking out mafia.

If we could protect you, maybe we could. But we don't have protectors. Your only hope of protection is to convince the protector that your role is worth protecting (granny, for example, is not) or if we no-lynch and let the jail keeper toss a coin on you.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/27/09 at 03:12:56

I agree that the way Tom's playing seems quite strange at the moment given that there are no certain protection roles but I also agree that it's not worth lynching him right now and we should wait and see what happens at night with him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 03:19:47

So far our best bets are:
1. no lynch, and jailkeeper throws a coin to either protect Tom or someone else who the jailkeeper thinks should be protected (like me!)
2. lynch someone suspicious/unhelpful. MVT, Brutus, %hat and Extol are already lined up to walk the plank. They'd better start talking.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 03:33:23

Alex is smart.

Alex, are you town?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 05:41:03

I thought you were the pro who was good at picking up on little things? [smiley=lolk.gif]
What do you think? [smiley=chairshot.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/27/09 at 05:52:27

I'm still suspicious of Sully and his random voting for people but at least he has spoken about his reasons. I think players like Brutus aren't going to help us at all if they keep playing that way and if they're not mafia then the mafia are just going to leave them in the game to make sure we keep getting confused by them. So, for that reason...

unvote
Vote: Brutus


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 06:10:56

surely we should try to come to some level of agreement as town. At the moment its 3/3 with me and extol, what happens if it stays that way?

alex - can you give me a straight answer as opposed to giving me a question back? :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 06:11:14

I think I'll keep my vote for Tom for the moment even if Brutus seems a bit suspicious to me too. Furthermore, he voted for me  ;D
I'll have to think about that. Maybe I'll change this evening.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 06:15:01

why? have you not read alex's post?

what good reason would you have to vote for me?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 06:17:43

I just edited my post, so please read the next part, beofre saying that  ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/27/09 at 06:23:43


7D5059446C5952594A3C0 wrote:
So far our best bets are:
1. no lynch, and jailkeeper throws a coin to either protect Tom or someone else who the jailkeeper thinks should be protected (like me!)
2. lynch someone suspicious/unhelpful. MVT, Brutus, %hat and Extol are already lined up to walk the plank. They'd better start talking.



You act as if I am being absolutely serious in everything I have said.  All I have been doing is throwing out some punches and waiting to see reactions.  Just as I have done to Howes and Extol, picking on some people who don't normally defend themselves and seeing if I can make them slip up.  As you said mafia knows who is who so they are the last ones that would be going out and recklessly exposing themselves and asking questions.  You seem to be the only one who is really gunning for me though, so I am not worried.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 06:25:49

Yes I agree with MVT, and so, I don't see why Tom should be protected.  :-/
He can be mafia as anyone of us can be too.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 07:01:31

"Yes I agree with MVT, and so, I don't see why Tom should be protected.  
He can be mafia as anyone of us can be too."

Flo is mafia.

Anyway, all of you sitting on the fence, ffs, just vote me or extol and get on with it. Look at my posts - look at what I have said and then make a decision :) If you vote me off then you are voting off a town person, I have clearly sworn on my families lives. Nothing which extol has done or any of you for that matter. Town ftw.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 07:04:23

LOL!!!  ;D
That is exactly what everybody would have said to "save his skin" ROFL

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 07:09:20

umm, who are you quoting?

Swear on your families lives that you are townie and I will believe you. Do it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 07:14:19

ok I just don't care about swearing because I'm a non believer, then, what would happen to my family?
So, I swear on my families lives that I'm a townie

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/27/09 at 07:19:59

a few points id like to put on the table:

in my mind i see MVT as somewhat suspicious. So far he hasnt said anything positive or contributed positively, or really even tried to point out clues to figure out who mafia is. hes just been throwing out insults and random accusations for no reason. although he could be doing what sully was and just be waiting to see how people respond. IMO this is a reckless but maybe somewhat useful technique. But MVT, if youre going to do this you should try to dig deeper instead of just saying someones mafia and sticking to it. You say i'm mafia, but what do you have to go on this?

the same goes for Tom. you say i gave myself away in my first few posts. my first three posts consisted of jokes off of what other people said before me, i dont see how that could have been seen as i am mafia. if you still dont believe me, i'll gladly show anyone the pm that Lenny sent me that says im a townie.

in terms of "power players," Tom, aside from misinterpreting my first few posts, has a good eye for picking up on things, and is therefore pretty important to us. I hope hes town for our sake.
another imortant person that i would suggest we keep in mind is Penev. He has done a lot of analysis already, and if hes town, hes a good asset to us.
lastly, i know syzygy hasnt posted much in this game yet, but you remember how crucial he was last game. i hope hes town again so he can help us out again.





Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/27/09 at 07:20:53

lol, Tom is so going down in night 1.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/27/09 at 07:44:31

Unvote

Vote: flo


so bait lol  :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/27/09 at 07:48:01


2A2B2D2235460 wrote:
Current Votes

3 Extol (In Hiding, Sportsguy001, oneshotbilyII)
3 In Hiding (Adam L, SuperYoshi1, Flo1)
2 sully (Darius, karterfreak)
1 Kevin Booth (AlexPenev)
1 Honko (Kevin)
1 Flo1  (Brutus)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)
1 Padzup (%hat)
1 Brutus (Kmacc)
1 MVT (Howes)

I think

dragondragon: ANYONE who visits the granny is killed, even town roles. 'Choosing' someone at night is also counted as visiting.

I also replaced Pobre with Etch, seeing as Pobre is currently either pre-occupied or doesn't want to play.


Ummm, I never asked about visiting someone, Lenny.


434F5A46434F495B5D1E1D192E0 wrote:
I have a few questions for Lenny, or anyone else that knows the answers, that have to do with night actions.
Is the watcher's night action considered visiting a house? Is the roleblocker's night action considered visiting a house? Are any of the other mafia's night actions considered visiting a house? (I'm assuming yes, but you can never be sure.

If the mafia tries to kill the gun owner, do both die? If the roleblocker tries to block the gun owner, does the roleblocker die? If the bodyguard protects the gun owner, who dies?
If one of the virgins dies, can the other still make kills?
If the cockbite is killed by the mafia, does their effect still happen? (I'm assuming no)
This could really help to figure out who Tom Is.      


Howes asked you that  lol.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/27/09 at 07:49:26

Ok, back from college, just read everything.  Just have a few things to say.

MVT -  MVT, as far as I know, does not have much (if any) mafia experience.  It seems to me like he is trying to play it like he DOES know what he's doing, and it isn't coming off.  For me, he just seems to be playing like he knows his shit in order to remain innocent, like he's only there for the town.  He's a big question mark but this could just be down to lack of experience.

Tom -  I don't get it Tom, you are a smart enough guy to be able to help out the town and remain safe without having to own up to being a power role.  I didn't realise until last night that town doesn't have protection so you are a clear target for the mafia if you are in fact town as they will know this, and if you aren't lynched chances are you will be highly suspected. :/

I hope Jabes and Penev are townies as they seem smart.  If they are mafia then we need to be careful because they will play us.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/27/09 at 07:50:03


033827303D60686860510 wrote:
I just edited my post, so please read the next part, beofre saying that  ;)


???.  You know the rules, Flo, right?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 07:52:06

Why!!!
I am not Mafia!
I swear on my families that I am not mafia


Edit: @dragondragon: I didn't finish my sentence when I posted this.
Because I clicked on the wrong button. sorry

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 07:55:20

unvote
Vote: Brutus

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/27/09 at 07:59:03

Well since Pobre is no longer playing and Etch is posting...

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 08:12:21

flo, copy my words

"I Flo, swear on my families lives that I am townie, if I am lying then karma will mean something bad will happen to them".

If you post that - then.. I will 100% believe you.

Also - tbh, i know this isn't gonna help but the roles all got a bit confusing as i'm a noob and I just presumed there would be someone to protect me like there was in the last one. Either way, Mafia may choose not to lynch me?! lol, yeah, pretty basic error. Anyway, extol is mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/27/09 at 08:19:37

unvote

vote: April


<3 ya April  :-*

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 08:21:37

No Tom.
Why should I copy your words? What I just said means exactly the same thing. I'm not a kiddie anymore.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 08:30:04

Unvote Extol

Vote Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 08:43:55

unvote
Vote: In hiding

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 08:58:17

why are you voting for me?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 09:01:20

Because you voted for me
Why are you voting for me?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/27/09 at 09:03:11

flo you will from now on be known as "Bait".

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 09:04:25

flo, i'm voting for you because you are bait.

Why do you think? Because you didn't paste what I wrote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 09:10:24

I don't want to paste what you wrote because it's not useful.
I am not mafia.
That's what I say. I can swear on anybody, that won't change anything to your mind.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/27/09 at 09:11:20

Sorry guys but I'll be off for almost one day. So I won't be able to post anything.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 09:16:39

bye bye mafia!


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 09:20:30

Members viewing this topic (8): Flo1, In Hiding, AlexPenev, Extol, Syzygy, oneshotbillyII, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], TJazZ.

Earlier Jabes said I was writing a message and didn't send it. That's because I click 'Reply' to make a  post, but then I click 'Quote' on several other messages to open new reply messages in other windows... except, I only cut out the [ quote ] text from them and then close them. So I am opening a message, and not using its reply box, and closing the window. The forum thinks I stopped writing after it times me out, because I was writing a much longer message (full of quotes). You may have even seen me "writing" several times with no message being posted. Summary: it's not an issue.


@Syzygy: I might look useful, but I'll probably be killed before Honko gets to kill me on day 4. So I have to talk a lot now because I can't talk later.  ;D


@Flo1: do you have any townie power? If not, then what makes you more useful to the town than MVT or Brutus?
unvote (hi Kevin!)
vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/27/09 at 09:47:05

LOL, now we got bait!  Man I am not prepared to get sloppy seconds on that one.  LOL @ Matt going for April.  I would say something about that, but probably suggesting a transvestite role here would get me 2 quick votes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 02/27/09 at 09:47:06

Hi Penev, I'm reading the topic. :D

Its been 24 hours now, everyone should of seen this topic by now, so anyone who hasnt posted, or has a trademark of posting useless shit that isn't going to get us anywhere, would be a safer option to lynch.

I also find the no lynch option to be silly. Why not get rid of people who we can't make much sense of, or who aren't helping at all?

I agree with Penev's theory about Tom. There is absolutely no point lynching him, as he has set himself up in the eyes of the mafia, and is most likely going to be killed by them later in the game. If Tom survives untill Day 3 or 4, then somethings up. But until then, leave him be. He might be an asset to the town, so killing him off straight away is useless.

I'm not jumping on the Extol/Brutus/Flo1 bandwagon for now. One of them might change and start to provide some good evidence. If this isn't the case later on, then I shall vote the one who I see as the most useless.

The weekend is now up, so I'm hoping this topic gets more active over saturday and sunday. We don't need to rush the day, we have plenty of time to reach a decision. The longer we wait, the more evidence we can collect.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 09:52:57

i'm running the risk of being lynched, you should vote for flo1 so i dont get lynched. Seriously, do you want me or him on your team?


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 02/27/09 at 10:00:38

Oh, wow. Didn't realise Tom had a stack of votes up against him. :-/

Looks like the town are being quite foolish, as voting for Tom would be a waste of a lynch. I mean, he is in the crosshair for mafia right now, whats the point of letting them get a double kill on the first day? We'd be doing the work for them. And besides, Tom is posting in this thread much more than Flo1 or Brutus are. Extol is posting, but the way he words his posts means he can be misinterpreted.

I have trust in Tom, at the moment. I don't want him getting lynched early, as he was a great help in the last game, and could be a great help this time. If he survives untill Day 3/4, then something can be assumed.

Vote:
Flo1


Purely because he hasn't posted much, I can't understand what he means by his posts, and that if he is mafia, we get a lucky kill. If he isn't, it doesn't really matter, as he isn't contributing much anyway.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/27/09 at 10:32:41

Flo is doing a terrible job hiding he is mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/27/09 at 10:56:51

One thing I realized with Tom is mafia may not kill him still during the night because they think we'll just lynch him on day four or something anyway because it'll seem suspicious that he's still around. We can't let the mafia just sit back and let us self-destruct in a situation like that.

As for Flo, I'm a bit on the fence with him at the moment. He seems suspicious in some ways, but I feel it might also be the fact that he is clueless half the time to begin with that makes his defenses look poor. So for now, I'll keep my vote on Brutus.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Brutus on 02/27/09 at 10:57:57

I think Alex, as a member of the mafia is going along with this least helpful thing because most of the "least helpful" people thus far could be townies. Alex is definitely on my suspect list. But I want to kill Flo first.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/27/09 at 11:04:01

The thing is, if people are way too quiet, then they are 99.9% chance either needledick or mafia. If they're needledicks, they aren't contributing anything in order to help us find the mafia, so it's worth the risk I guess you could say, because they're dead weight anyway. If they are mafia, then it was a great choice and we jump ahead to an early lead!

If the quiet people are power roles, they wouldn't be quiet. It seems most people here are agreeing that the quiet people need to get lynched. If they were power roles and saw that people wanted to lynch them because they weren't posting, they should be running in here and start posting and contributing otherwise they're gonna be on the chopping block.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/27/09 at 11:57:28

^Your explanation is absolutely correct, but there could be exceptions; more if we think that there are 28 persons playing. Of course that it is a good base at Day 1, but at least I don't like to fundament my guesses in the fact people isn't posting too much, the important thing is look which is the content of their posts.
They are posters that seems extremely suspicious (ehmm... Flo xD); but we are at the start of day 1; throw votes on people to make them speak and see what they have to say is nice, I support that; but it's a risky movement, people could feel bothered if they see that people suspect of him without having do anything. I've make some nouns in mind, but I don't like to show my cards from the beggining; maybe in the next days I will share my deepest guesses with you...  xD.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by nstinson on 02/27/09 at 12:06:34

I'm with the majority right now.

unvote
vote Flo1


Bait'd

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/27/09 at 12:27:58

Yeah, as much as I hate to just jump on a bandwagon and vote for someone I'm not sure about, I'm getting closer and closer to believing that Flo1 is mafia.

I stated earlier in the game that I felt that he was very suspicious, and his last 4 or 5 posts didn't help him (or the town) at all.

Vote: Flo1

I have a history of voting off townies, so let's just hope that our first lynch is a successful one!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/27/09 at 12:29:40

(Members viewing this topic (7): Fababu, Padzup, Jabes, SuperYoshi1, Darius, sully, dragondragon.)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/27/09 at 12:30:00

Flo isn't the only one that's sending mixed signals, but confusion isn't something we need this time around.  I'm in agreement that both sending mixed signals and lack of posting are both very suspicious activities.

Vote: Flo

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/27/09 at 12:39:04


704B54434E131B1B13220 wrote:
ok I just don't care about swearing because I'm a non believer, then, what would happen to my family?
So, I swear on my families lives that I'm a townie

Um okay, so basically what you're saying is, "I'm not superstitious so what the hell. What would happen to my family if I'm lying?" Why would you ask if something would happen from lying if you weren't lying?

Flo is either mafia or an idiot. Either way he's no help here. Meanwhile I'm not going to vote for him since there are more than enough people doing that currently and it would be in the best interests of town to keep the day going until tomorrow.

I just skimmed through the last few posts so I'm gonna be reading everything now to catch up.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/27/09 at 12:48:34

And I'd like to add that everyone is missing the fact that Tom has still said he was a power role regardless of his siding. This is similar to what Tyler dropped last game, if we keep a mafia power role alive until Day 4 we're in a load of trouble. So keep that in mind when voting.

Either way Tom you're playing it pretty risky but most people seem to believe you now that they're starting to bandwagon on Flo. Maybe that was your intent. I'd like to say again:


1B2A2F313E3B4B0 wrote:
Though I guess it's hard to tell what mafia is doing. Most likely they're trying to draw attention to themselves right now so people will change their minds to vote for townies later.


That's not to say that Flo is necessarily a townie but it's a valid strategy on Tom's part nonetheless.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/27/09 at 12:57:59

Who is Meaks and why won't he post?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/27/09 at 12:58:48

Nevermind, he's not in the game and isn't allowed to post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/27/09 at 13:07:02

Before I leave for work tonight (although I'll have my ipod touch after 10 p.m. central time, so I'm not trying to cover myself in the least)...

Members viewing this topic (6): dragondragon, Fababu (replying), Meaks, Jabes, Brutus, Padzup.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/27/09 at 13:07:30

@Jabes: I think he's Stephen Meakings, but he hasn't posted since a few months ago.
Padzup has reason when he says that interests of town lies in keep the day goes until tomorrow. At least at day we are safe of girls, and we can pay attention to the posts of people, because a day longer means more posts, and also means more possibilities of girls to make an error.
BTW, I think Flo's next post will be decissive; so I will wait at least until he have written it before I vote someone.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Goose ♥ on 02/27/09 at 13:12:08

Current Votes

7 Flo1  (Drag, Brutus, oneshitbullyII, In Hiding, ?Sword?, nstinson, Jabes)
2 In Hiding (Adam L, Flo1)
2 Brutus (Kmacc, Darius)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)
1 Padzup (%hat)
1 Kevin Booth (AlexPenev)
1 Honko (Kevin)
1 MVT (Howes)
1 April (karterfreak)

15 votes are needed for a death by bukkake.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/27/09 at 13:14:12

Thirteen? I thought fifteen was majority since there are 28 people.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/27/09 at 13:14:57

goose edited his post. modkill ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/27/09 at 13:24:21

just to let you know gooser.... Penev unvoted me, and then voted for the bait.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/27/09 at 13:52:31

Jesus christ, 8 pages in 24 hours?  Give me a break.

unvote
vote: Flo1



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/27/09 at 14:30:09

Hello friends! I've just got home from school and read all the exciting events of the day.  I'm not surprised at all to see a load of votes piling up on Flo, but I'm actually a bit worried too many people are going to get carried away here!  He's currently got 8 votes (if Ryan's summary is correct), so we should be fine just leaving him at around that many votes for the time being.  This gives us the opportunity to change our votes easier in the later stages of Day 1.  I agree with you that Flo either doesn't understand the game or is trying to sabotage himself in some way.  His posts haven't made a lick of sense!  If he doesn't understand it, then there's no reason keeping him around, so it's the noose for him (perhaps).  While we let Flo sit at 8 votes, why don't we try to see what some other people think.  This way, we could develop a second suspect and raise 5 or more votes for him as well, giving us double the data we'd have if we just were content with eliminating Flo and ending the day.  We can get "bonus research" :) !

Syzygy said in an earlier post that we should watch out for the "smart people" and listed Joe and Alex (I think).  I would like to point out that a LARGE portion of the players here are of above average intelligence, and we should not focus only on a couple people who appear "smart."  For example, Howes is very intelligent as he proved in the "Forum Riddle" topic earlier this week, and many of the other players have a college degree or are very bright, at the least.

I'm quite displeased with the slew of people who just wanted to hop on the Flo train with comments like "He's the bait *votes*" and people who are making nonsense oneliners that don't add anything to the game.  This includes (but is not limited to) Stinson and Clark.

On the subject of people appearing "inactive," I'd like to just remind you that this is basically worth 3 or 4 posts from me, just happens that as I wasn't home all day (school, obv), I couldn't post each of these comments at the appropriate place in the discussion.  That should be considered for other players, as well.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Goose ♥ on 02/27/09 at 14:36:31

Who is "the bait" Booth?  I don't want to go back and look through a billion pages.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/27/09 at 14:37:21

Oh damn, I only just realised Clark is %Hat, I was about to say "Where is Clark?" /fail

Anyhow Scott, what I mean is, there is smartness of the "I CAN DO MATHS YEAH LOL" kind and intelligence in terms of logical thinking.  The latter are the ones to watch out for, and Penev and Jabes seem to be top tier from that point of view.  Howes I don't know enough about.  

Anyway, it looks like Flo's going to be lynched, probably won't be a big loss even if he's town so that's fine.  I'm going to wait a bit though, I want this to last to the last day and not come back in the morning to find the topic closed due to a lynch spree.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/27/09 at 15:49:25


754350565E5F6E775E435254310 wrote:
Jesus christ, 8 pages in 24 hours?  Give me a break.

unvote
vote: Flo1


Yeah, I'm disappointed we kept it under 20 pages as well ;D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 15:52:03


Quote:
I also find the no lynch option to be silly. Why not get rid of people who we can't make much sense of, or who aren't helping at all?

If the mafia has a clear target, such as Tom, then (as Howes pointed out) a no-lynch gives us a good chance of screwing up the mafia using the jailkeeper. This would mean nobody dies in the first Day/Night, while the town benefits by getting a scan and some posts. So it's not such a bad strategy. But it only works if we can be narrow down the mafia's targets to 1-3 people. If the mafia has more targets than that, our chances of using the jailkeeper correctly decrease by a lot.



6365696B6B080 wrote:
One thing I realized with Tom is mafia may not kill him still during the night because they think we'll just lynch him on day four or something anyway because it'll seem suspicious that he's still around.

As I said, for the mafia to do this means that the mafia is perfectly okay with letting a known townie power use his power for many days unimpeded. Why would they do that, especially if the information Tom turns in (and he basically has to reveal information, at least by day 3) is useful for the town? Ideally, to screw the mafia the most, we want to keep Tom alive for the number of days that marks the turning point between when the mafia would be okay and not okay with keeping him alive.
Of course, by Day 4 we could have better, more-suspicious targets, and put off Tom's lynch for the next day. Same again on Day 5. In the end, if he's town an we don't lynch him at all (because he feeds us useful info that checks out), then we succeed at screwing the mafia the most out of Tom's situation -- they wait and wait for us to kill him, but we don't kill him. However, if Tom doesn't feed us any info or his info doesn't check out, we lynch him in a few days.



536364656462110 wrote:
I think Alex, as a member of the mafia is going along with this least helpful thing because most of the "least helpful" people thus far could be townies. Alex is definitely on my suspect list.

You need a better reason than that to be suspicious of me.
The mafia can (and possibly) will already target "least helpful" people during Night anyway because they are safe kills: no townie power will be doing anything to the unhelpful people. Mafia will first target the experienced/smart/power roles, who are their biggest dangers, but the least helpful people are their safest kills. Did you notice last game? The mafia kept killing quiet people. There were many protectors in that game, so they went for safe kills rather than the obvious targets (e.g. Scott, Tom).
Generally half of the unhelpful people end up being mafia anyway, so they are easily our best bet for a lynch at this point in the game.
If a quiet person is a townie power, they will get desperate when they see that they're close to being lynched and will reveal their role. We can then see if it checks out.



49787D636C69190 wrote:
And I'd like to add that everyone is missing the fact that Tom has still said he was a power role regardless of his siding. This is similar to what Tyler dropped last game, if we keep a mafia power role alive until Day 4 we're in a load of trouble.

No. Sportsguy only said he had a role because he was in danger. He was about to be lynched and was desperate. Tom isn't/wasn't desperate. He said he's a power role straight away, before most people had even checked the topic, let alone have cast any votes against him. Also, Tom did say he's town-aligned. But he asked to be roleblocked. It's strange that a townie power will ask to be blocked.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/27/09 at 15:59:17

Did tom mean he needs to be protected?  I don't think there are any town roles where you would want to be roleblocked except maybe the moralist, so he wouldn't kill someone who visits him.  Tom isn't making much sense.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Lenny on 02/27/09 at 16:22:55

I have a few questions for Lenny, or anyone else that knows the answers, that have to do with night actions.
Is the watcher's night action considered visiting a house? Is the roleblocker's night action considered visiting a house? Are any of the other mafia's night actions considered visiting a house? (I'm assuming yes, but you can never be sure.

If the mafia tries to kill the gun owner, do both die? If the roleblocker tries to block the gun owner, does the roleblocker die? If the bodyguard protects the gun owner, who dies?
If one of the virgins dies, can the other still make kills?
If the cockbite is killed by the mafia, does their effect still happen? (I'm assuming no)
This could really help to figure out who Tom Is.


Sorry drag, my bad.

Watcher's night action is considered visiting.
Roleblocker's night action is considered visiting.
All mafia night actions are considered visiting.
If the mafia tries to kill the gun owner, the mafia dies.
If the roleblocker attempts to block the gun owner, the roleblocker dies.
If the bodyguard protects the gun owner, the bodyguard dies.
If one of the virgins is dead, the other can still make kills.
If the cockbite is killed by the mafia, their effect does not occur.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 16:23:00

He may have meant protected. The thing is, if he's the moralist, then he can be useful for the town if the mafia don't know it, but totally useless if he reveals it. Problem!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/27/09 at 17:07:56

Well it seems Flo1 will be the first guy lynched. His last posts made him way too much guilty and is likely mafia.
I won't vote for him though, at least for now, since people would accuse me for jumping on bandwagons, anyway, it's quite useless now, his vote count is already heavy compared to other guys, and even if there is about 30 hours remaining, i doubt it will change a lot.
Like Scott said, we must keep aiming for the other mafia guys (assuming Flo is really mafia). They are probably smarter than him so it will much harder to catch them. We will have to examine each post...
For those who voted Brutus : like previously he is likely once again a townie who is trying to confuse us. ::) I don't see much the point of lynching him, I doubt he is really dangerous, or does have any power role. Same for Clark...
Better would be to focus on other players.
Sorry if it's not very clear, I'm very tired. I'm going to bed now, let's see if last day bring us some more information : some people need to post a bit more...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/27/09 at 17:12:15

i'm a bit drunk alex but for me a roleblocker is someone who stops me getting killed.

if the reality is thats a protector then i'm asking to be protected not roleblocked. However as i said in my previous posts i didn't understand/read all of the roles both townie or mafia so i only presumed someone on our side might/would stop me getting killed if i owned up to be townie and killed off the mafia using my instincts and skills.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/27/09 at 18:40:12


726E696B6775617E37060 wrote:
imho the person who does ask me is 99% going to be mafia (1% stoopid) because a townie wouldn't want my power role to be known.


Don't be so sure, some town players are just fucking retards.

People I thought were mafia actually turned out to be town because they were helping mafia pick off the people with power roles. [smiley=chairshot.gif]

Sure, Flo1 is just as helpful as his english is correct.

Vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/27/09 at 18:46:14

Time for a big post.


6740475D4C47434679465E4C5B290 wrote:
Well, all that I've seen thus far is that Tom and Honko put on a pressure vote to Flo1 and someone else (I forgot who it was), and Flo1 hasn't defended himself in the least.

The only votes I have made so far were during the very first hours of the game, and they were all jokes.  Since the game got going I unvoted and haven't voted anyone since.  There are two other people in this game using my Toad avatar (Sword and Padzup), so be sure not to confuse them with me.


4C6B6C76676C686D526D756770020 wrote:
And remember, i can see who is watching the topic and not posting, so if youre mafia and i see that youre not posting, ill be convinced that you should be killed. No excuses...

About this whole "People viewing this topic" issue...I think people are reading way too much into it.  Personally, I check the boards probably an average of 20 times a day.  But many of those are when I just have 3 minutes to kill.  I'll check out interesting topics (like this one), but I won't post.  This is how I use the boards, and I'm not going to change my habits just for this game.  I'd be willing to bet there are plenty of others who check the boards sometimes without any intention of posting.  It doesn't necessarily mean they're up to no good.  The only time I think that this information would be useful is if someone hasn't posted for several days, but they have been seen checking the topic.  In that case things seem fishy, so I would mention if I noticed them in that viewing list.  Otherwise, I think there's very little value in that list because there are plenty of innocent explanations for viewing without posting.


64787F7D7163776821100 wrote:
Can anyone here say so far they have written "I will swear on my families life I am a townie?"???????????????????????????????????

I have a power role, i've not denied anything - not what role i am etc, if you want to know it ask me but no one has. You're inviting mafia to call me out in doing so.

Honko - starting the last game does not make you innocent. You will now join the list.

You suddenly find me suspicious, so it seems like you saw my post, but apparently you didn't actually read it because I did ask you to say your specific power role.  I also explained why.  By claiming to be a power role and asking for protection, you've already revealed enough for the mafia to know they should kill you early.  It doesn't really matter to them what role you are, they know that killing you is more useful than killing a random other person because you have a special role.  So mafia doesn't gain much if you tell us what your role is.  On the other hand, town does gain something from you claiming: we get confirmation that you're not mafia trying to trick us (if nobody else counters you claiming to have the same role as you do, then we know your story is true), and we find out exactly how you can help us.  Seems like a good idea to me.  Either tell us your role, or someone explain to me why it's a bad idea.

Also, about this whole "swear on your family's life" thing.  It's stupid.  This is a game of deception.  The mafia is supposed to lie to us to trick us.  They shouldn't be forced to either go against a "swear on their family's life" or lose the game.  We should be finding who is mafia from mistakes they make, not from their feelings about making some kind of fake oath against their family.  It seems against the spirit of the game to bring something like that into this, and in order to keep the game fun for everyone I'd suggest we stop that movement and find the mafia another way.

That said, I swear on my family's life that I am town. :D


0953080A0008025656630 wrote:
Not everyone has told the truth so far, you guys are better off lynching annoying posters off the bat because they tend to create crazy theories and only help the mafia remain hidden.

Vote: Honko

I know you weren't technically part of the game yet when you made this post and vote, Etch, so I'm not sure if it's a joke or not.  My post was not a "crazy theory."  If you think it was then perhaps you should try reading it again.  There was nothing theoretical about it.  It seems like you would prefer the game consisted only of one-liners.  If that's the case you should stick to chatroom mafia, because one-liners don't help much in a big game like this.


52636A6A52676A63060 wrote:
^ No defense at all coming from Extol, finish him off

MVT is very trigger happy.  Trying to end the day as quickly as possible with a very questionable lynch?  I don't like it at all.


7F525B466E5B505B483E0 wrote:
If the mafia has a clear target, such as Tom, then (as Howes pointed out) a no-lynch gives us a good chance of screwing up the mafia using the jailkeeper.

I wouldn't use the jailkeeper on Tom.  If we're assuming he's really a power role, then the bodyguard should be on Tom instead, since jailkeeper would stop Tom from using his power.  But I don't think no lynch is a good plan regardless.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/27/09 at 18:48:44


Quote:

5C5045595C50564442010206310 wrote:
@MVT- What are you talking about? Those are questions about what night roles have precedence, which can have a major impact in the game. Last game, I incorrectly assumed that Tom's night kills would be used up if he was roleblocked, which, if true, would have made it very easy to take a power role out of the game.
My question to you... how have you contributed, besides bandwagoning on Extol, and calling me dumb? Why shouldn't I vote for you, instead of Flo?



62535A5A62575A53360 wrote:
Vote for Extol, if he was of any value to the town he would at least attempt to defend himself.



1120292911242920450 wrote:
Well, he wanted me to answer a question so I was forced into it.



45747D7D45707D74110 wrote:
Idiots never learn.  Why would I be a mafia if I am aggressively pursuing every possible clue?  At least I am not an admitted needledick like you.  Vote for me and pay the price of a mafia advantage over the town.



78555C41695C575C4F390 wrote:
[quote author=49787171497C71781D0 link=1235628670/175#180 date=1235707984]Why would I be a mafia if I am aggressively pursuing every possible clue?  At least I am not an admitted needledick like you.  Vote for me and pay the price of a mafia advantage over the town.

MVT, it sounded like Howes was pursuing information about role precedence. That counts as obtaining clues (about Tom). You called him stupid for doing that, and then you say that it is -you- who are the one pursuing every clue. I haven't seen you pursue any clues yet. What did you mean?

Secondly, what's wrong with admitting to be a needledick? The mafia already know if you're town or not. They're interested in killing off the town powers, not the needledicks. So in your last sentence, where you say that you're not a needledick and that the town will be sorry if the mafia kills you, you're admitting to be a power. That puts you in the same positions as Tom. Either you're going to be killed very soon by the mafia, or if you somehow survive then we townies are going to lynch you in a few days for being suspicious.

Now is your chance to defend yourself.
[/quote]

Would just like to bring this up again, considering this sorta got dodged after Flo said some stupid things. What's your defense MVT?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 19:06:40

We only have 1 protector, so I'm not sure if you will be protected. If you survive (and I don't see why not, given that I gave solid reasons why you're worth keeping now) I might think of something we can do to make the most out of the situation. We'll need to see the first round of Night actions, though. We could talk about it on day 2.

Here is something I think we might be able to do tonight:
1. @whoever is bodyguard: toss a coin, if heads protect Tom. If tails, do whatever you wish. If mafia goes for Tom, you'll have a 25% of killing them (50% to be guarding Tom in the first place, another 50% to save Tom). This percent is fairly high and should discourage the mafia from killing Tom.
2. @whoever is cop: consider scanning Tom, but don't give it too much precedence. Toss 3 coins, if you get exactly 2 heads (38%) then you may scan him. Otherwise scan whoever you want.
3. @whoever is watchman: consider watching Tom. If Tom dies, you'll discover a mafia. If he doesn't, you'll have a decent shot at either finding the cop or bodyguard. If any mafia try to affect Tom in a non-killing manner, you'll get their names down as well. This should discourage the mafia from visiting Tom, but allow some townies to discover some other townies (very useful!).

What do people think?

@Tom, if you're the gun lunatic, this plan will obviously not work well for us townies. Discourage us from considering it. I may have some more potential tactics for Day 2, but they will depend on the Night 1 actions.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 19:10:32

^ that was directed at Tom's post "i'm a bit drunk alex but for me a roleblocker is someone who stops me getting killed."

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/27/09 at 19:18:43


08232438254A0 wrote:
[quote author=0953080A0008025656630 link=1235628670/125#144 date=1235695001]Not everyone has told the truth so far, you guys are better off lynching annoying posters off the bat because they tend to create crazy theories and only help the mafia remain hidden.
Vote: Honko

I know you weren't technically part of the game yet when you made this post and vote, Etch, so I'm not sure if it's a joke or not.  My post was not a "crazy theory."[/quote]

What I said about lynching off annoying unhelpful posters, yes.

Voting for you like Kmacc in the other game, joke. ;D

With the game not even started I didn't see how any logical choices could be made. xP

As for long posts, yea I just hate them.  Some things can be said without a huge essay so it's the repetitive stuff that gets me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/27/09 at 19:25:10

Just checking in...
Flo seems most suspicious, and I'm fine with lynching him, but I suspect MVT as well.
No other people have aroused my suspicions yet, but I'll be watching. [smiley=ninja.gif]
Tomorrow will bring more answers, and hopefully will make things clearer.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/27/09 at 19:29:52

K, no worries then.  I'll try to keep my posts from getting too long, I just felt I should comment on all the stuff I missed.

Flo has been pretty silly (who wasn't expecting that?) and I'm fine with him being today's lynch eventually, but I'd like to hear more from MVT before the day is done.  He was extremely aggressive on Extol yesterday, but hasn't spoken today I think.  I want to see what he's thinking now that he's been called out by a few people.

Vote: MVT

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/27/09 at 19:30:43

lol Howes ninja'd me.  Now it looks like I copied what he said.  My post was in reply to Etch mostly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Lenny on 02/27/09 at 19:41:28

Current votes

9 Flo1 (Brutus, onheshotbillyII, In Hiding, AlexPenev, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, Adam L, Etch)
2 Brutus (Kmacc, Darius)
2 MVT (Howes, Honko)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 Honko (Kevin)
1 In Hiding (Flo1)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)
1 Padzup (%hat)
1 Detective Spril (karterfreak)

With 28 players alive, 15 votes are required for a lynch. There are 27 hours and 20 minutes remaining of this day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/27/09 at 19:53:34

Well Matt doesn't seem to be responding (and from what I can tell avoiding saying anything to me aside from something that was a bit of a stretch, a bit concerning) so I think I'll put a bit of pressure on MVT too since I called him out a bit earlier.

Unvote

Vote: MVT

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/27/09 at 20:31:57

Ah ok I accept the pressure.  Sorry I could not respond all day I was not home (swimming is finally over now 8-) ).  Before I begin my defense I have read the latest posts and it is very apparent to me that we have found an early mafia.  If not than it isnt a loss since he has contributed nothing.

Unvote Extol

Vote Flo1


Now to me.  I am a bit confused why I am being prosecuted by people as a mafia.  I started the game off very agressively, but I am not stupid.  I thought it was important for people to defend themselves and I always planned on backing off if they gave an adequate defense.  As syzygy pointed out, I have very little experience with this game.  So in an effort to "make a splash" I tried to get some early info.  It succeeded and i am satisfied with the responses I have received as a result of the early pressure.  Simply saying "because he was trigger happy at the start he is mafia"  is a silly statement.  I see several people have challenged me to defend myself which is good.  I think everyone really should at some point.  I apologize if I offended any1 by my agressive actions yesterday.  It was meant as a strategy to see if I could get anyone to immediately spill the beans.  Naturaly I picked on 2 people (Extol and Howes) who generally are more docile in nature and would have a harder time covering themselves if they were mafia.  

Any more questions for me, feel free to ask!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/27/09 at 20:47:49

good strategy MVT.  Ya, I'm about ready to change my vote.  I am hoping to catch a target though that is a little less obvious though, and that is more dangerous then our flo buddy.  But ya I'll hang onto my vote for now and keep an eye out.  I have a feeling well have another true person to be suspicious of before it is all said and done.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 20:54:28

unvote /flo
vote: MVT

@MVT: you didn't explain this one:

Quote:
Why would I be a mafia if I am aggressively pursuing every possible clue?  At least I am not an admitted needledick like you.  Vote for me and pay the price of a mafia advantage over the town.

So you admitted to being a town power and not a needledick?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/27/09 at 21:15:31

That quote by me was meant to show him how stupid he was for admitting his role blatantly.  I never said I wasn't a needledick.  However voting off a needledick still gives the mafia an advantage over the town.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/27/09 at 21:20:33

Also if you had any incline that I was a town power, why would you be strongly trying to rally a bandwagon against me, unless of course your mafia? [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 21:22:48

You said "I am not an admitted needledick". What other kind of needledick is there? If everyone admitted to being a needledick, what does the mafia gain? Nothing. Some people have already said they are regular townies, but I'm not so sure. Some of them are bound to have a power.

I'm still suspicious of you, because the post that quote was from didn't make sense to me. You said you didn't care because I was the only one gunning for you, but that might change tomorrow, after Flo is (likely) gone. You'll be walking the plank again. So you should clear your doubters ASAP.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/27/09 at 21:25:10

But my question remains, if you had any slight doubt in your mind that I MIGHT be a town power, than why in the world would you try to vote me off at this stage of the game?  Instead of killing off known deadweight or more obvious people with less chance of the kill backfiring?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/27/09 at 21:25:53

If you are an admitted town power, then it makes sense to throw votes your way -- it will pressure you to feed us more information. Claiming to be a power already makes you a mafia target, and the worst thing that can happen is if you discover any information and it dies with you. If you're a town power, you've already admitted it (in my eyes). Maybe it was just a slip of the tongue.

Be careful of how safe you feel, because the town has vigilantes who may be tempted to take you out if they don't trust you by today's end. You'd best convince as many of the town as you can that you're cool.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/27/09 at 21:36:03

I realize I still haven't cast a vote for anyone yet.  This is mainly because I'm trying to "play it smart."  Last game every time I tried the "I'm putting pressure on you" vote, it turned out to be worthless and not get anything done :( and I don't want to just jump on these trains for MVT (he seems suspicious!) and Flo (he's got enough votes on him already).  Every time people say "I'm voting for X just because I want him to talk!" I think "Why are they doing that, that's not going to help!"

So basically, I'm trying not to be a moron!  Also I'd like to say that I'm still following everything closely!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/27/09 at 22:07:54

So playing aggressive is suddenly suspicious?  Or are people just not getting much information so they are getting desperate?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/27/09 at 22:27:42


58757C61497C777C6F190 wrote:
You said "I am not an admitted needledick". What other kind of needledick is there? If everyone admitted to being a needledick, what does the mafia gain? Nothing. Some people have already said they are regular townies, but I'm not so sure. Some of them are bound to have a power.

Well for starters the other kind of needledick is a non-admitted one.

If all the needledicks admit their roles then mafia knows right off the bat who the power roles are. From there it's just a matter of picking them off.

I'd like to add that I didn't vote for MVT out of desperation; if anything I held my vote for Matt for that reason. He's not biting so I figured I may as well get MVT to explain himself. I think MVT's (and Brutus') playstyle is essential to the game, at least in the early stages. It makes us more critical of everyone.

Here's something funny: If you don't vote, you're suspicious because you're waiting for a bandwagon to jump on. If you vote no-lynch, you're suspicious because you're trying to get mafia free kills. If you vote for someone with no votes, you're trying to start a bandwagon and if you vote for someone with one or more votes you're jumping on a bandwagon.

In short, if you're able to vote you're labeled as mafia :-/ We may as well use voting to our advantage.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/27/09 at 22:32:01

I don't think people should be voting No Lynch at this point.  That would be something we decide on in our meeting (that I hope people have considered the time of) in the last hour or two of Day 1.  At that point if we decide it's the best play (probably won't, but this type of meeting should happen at the end of every Day), we will be able to throw 6-10 votes on that to give it the win, just like a vote on any other person.  Voting No Lynch right now is pointless as it would be like saying "I really want this day to end before we're done speaking about it, and I don't want to kill anyone.  THAT would be the "free kill," but by waiting out the full 72 hours and carefully using it, the no lynch option could be beneficial.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/27/09 at 22:50:18


Quote:
Here's something funny: If you don't vote, you're suspicious because you're waiting for a bandwagon to jump on. If you vote no-lynch, you're suspicious because you're trying to get mafia free kills. If you vote for someone with no votes, you're trying to start a bandwagon and if you vote for someone with one or more votes you're jumping on a bandwagon.


The important thing is to justify your decision.  If you don't vote, make it clear why you're waiting.  If you vote no-lynch, explain why you think that's the best course.  If you vote for someone with no votes, give strong reasons for your vote.  If you vote for someone with lots of votes already, add something to the discussion about them from your own point of view.  The more people chime in with actual discussion, the better chance we have of finding the truth.

The suspicious votes are the ones that have weak justification or (especially) ones that just repeat something that was already said without adding anything at all.  "I agree with what the last poster said.  Vote: Whoever" doesn't really help town, it just gets you a vote on the record.

Something else I want to mention that someone said in a game I was in on another board and I thought was pretty interesting.  Sometimes it seems like everyone in the game agrees on a lynch.  Some dude is suspicious, and EVERYONE agrees about it.  It seems like a perfect choice!  This is BAD.  Because if everyone supports that lynch, that means the mafia supports it too.  So we should be careful not to let too much momentum ever go towards one guy during the day, and always keep our options open so we can switch the lynch in time if we need to.  This is something that hurt town the first two games (in game 1 with oneshot and Tom, and in game 2 with Extol and dragon), so we should stay aware of it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Brutus on 02/28/09 at 00:23:43

shut the fuck up Honko

unvote

vote honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 00:30:23

i agree with what brutus said

unvote

vote honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 00:49:17

@ MVT: Nothing is apparant yet, so assuming you've found an early mafia is just silly. In the same token, you seem to be pushing on the flo bandwagon rather hard.

Unvote

Vote: MVT


You're too suspiscious to me right now to not vote for you. I'll remove my vote and vote no lynch if my feelings on that change.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 00:54:45

Well guys.
I know my behaviour has been weird
It's possible that I will be lynched, but you will be making an error.
I didn't mean to say anything suspicious but it seems that some people wrongly considered what I said as suspicious.
At least, after reading all the posts I missed, I will give you my guesses. I think, MVT may be mafia.
I also saw Jabes and dragon jumping into a bandwagon against me without any explanations. That could be also a good point.
Well I have nothing more to say. I'll be back in like 6 or 7 hours.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 00:58:23

unvote
vote: MVT

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/28/09 at 00:59:53

double posts are always suspect and look desperate. flo=mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 01:12:49

WTF!
Well, Tom,
Now you are trying to look for any little normal things that have normally no importance, and you are trying to interpret them. But you are all wrong. You see, I was nice with you, I unvoted from you because I read every MVT's posts.
And you are coming back.
I'm sure you are trying to escape from other players for fear they'll vote for you, and you try to accuse me instead of you.
Think what you want, guys, but I'm sure he is mafia too.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/28/09 at 01:13:45

you just admitted you are mafia! lol [smiley=roll.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 01:16:57

Flo is just horrible with english, he can't exactly get his thoughts to writing. Although some of the things he's said are suspiscious, i figure I should point out the language thing.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 01:20:23

I couldn't have said that I was mafia because I'm not.
Oh you mean because of my last sentence.
"I'm sure he is mafia too"
That means among those I mentioned in my previous posts, like MVT, or dragon, I'm sure you are also mafia, that means you are one of them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/28/09 at 01:20:53

I like how Flo mentions Joe and Drag "bandwagonning" when they give some hint of a reason for voting (though Drag maybe could have given a bit more reasoning) when right above Joe's post is Nate's:


113E2B373E310C2B36312C30315F0 wrote:
I'm with the majority right now.

unvote
vote Flo1


Bait'd


This is Stinson's third post and the last one he's made. The other two were almost identical in intent. He's been almost completely absent from the game and has put forth no real opinion on anything whatsoever. I'd say that Flo (as well as the rest of mafia) is trying to divert attention from him since literally nobody has said a word about him. If Flo turns out to be mafia we should seriously consider lynching Stinson the next day.

MVT seems to be up in the air for now.

And Flo, you say others are bandwagonning and then proceed to vote for MVT without giving any reason ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 01:24:50


3C362523322508312532363C570 wrote:
Flo is just horrible with english, he can't exactly get his thoughts to writing.

Well, I know.  ;D
I would have prefered if we could speak french. But I do my best to express what I want to say.
And I thought everybody would understand what I always want to mean. But, apparently not.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/28/09 at 02:31:05

Was out getting too drunk last night, so I've just read everything I missed over the last half day or so. Flo seems pretty suspicious right now but because of the point about his language and what Honko said about not putting pressure all on one person, I'm not going to switch my vote to him.

MVT hasn't convinced me he's town either and as Padzup said, Stinson's minimal posting style is also very fishy. However, Brutus confirmed exactly what I said about him last time by making a pointless vote against Honko with no useful contribution to the town, so I'm leaving my vote on him for now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/28/09 at 03:37:12

Stinson played the exact same way last game, and I had him pegged as Mafia from the start, but he turned out to just be a terrible town player, so I'm mixed as to how I feel about him right now.

@whomever said I didn't have a reason for voting: I believe I said that a couple accusations were thrown in Flo's direction and he offered little to no reason as to why he shouldn't be lynched. I don't really believe his reasons were enough justification for him to not be lynched, so I'm alright with him being lynched at this point. It's practically the same situation as the Goose lynch from last game: he wasn't supplying enough good information from the town and his posts were redundant. I was didn't care if he turned out to be mafia or town; I just didn't want him in the game anymore.

MVT is in the same boat, as with Brutus, because they're all playing the game in the worst possible way. I'm not trying to start any bandwagon voting, I'm just telling you guys how I feel at this point.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/28/09 at 04:29:48

Joe knows to much...

unvote
Vote: Jabes

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 05:23:24

An update on the votecount:

Current votes I think

9 Flo1 (onheshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, Adam L, Etch, MVT)
6 MVT (Howes, Honko, Padzup, AlexPenev, karterfreak, Flo1)
3 Honko (Kevin, Brutus, Honko)
2 Brutus (Kmacc, Darius)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 Jabes (%hat)

With 28 players alive, 15 votes are required for a lynch. There are 17 hours and 40 minutes remaining of this day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 05:26:36

You put twice Honko...  ;D
That means he has double personnalities!!! LOL

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 05:28:10

Not Voting: Extol, IsThatAGoodThing, Syzygy, SuperYoshi1, Fababu, Detective Spril, sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 05:30:11

I know. What I said was also a joke.  ;D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Flo1 on 02/28/09 at 05:30:58

Howes deleted his post!
Modkill

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 05:33:10

Flo, I didn't feel that post was important, and it was the last post as far as I could tell. I don't think that's the point of the 'no deleting posts' rule, which is to stop people from deleting old posts.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/28/09 at 05:35:36

Still unsure about whether to vote MVT or Flo.  Flo wouldn't be a big loss, but he may just be a fail townie.  MVT I think is trying too hard, and that, for me, is either down to lack of experience OR the fact that he is mafia.  I'll keep it even for now.

Vote: MVT

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 05:52:08


75444D4D75404D44210 wrote:
That quote by me was meant to show him how stupid he was for admitting his role blatantly.  I never said I wasn't a needledick.  However voting off a needledick still gives the mafia an advantage over the town.  


MVT, as soon as I posted my role, I immediately regretted it. I was just trying to reinforce that I was town, but I had forgotten what other things that mafia could figure out from admitted needledicks (ie power roles).

I'm satisfied for now with what you have said.
Now a more pressing issue:
Flo- Why do you want me dead?


Just in case anyone is wondering what the text of the deleted post is, it was basically "Honko voted for himself in bold, so he isn't voting for anyone else, even if the vote was a joke." My vote count is by no means accurate, as I have Honko twice  (:() and I deleted the post after I saw that the vote count was wrong.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/28/09 at 06:56:56

Members replying to this topic (1): Kevin Booth.

Well looks like we got a shift to MVT as a choice.  Interesting, and ya I defintely don't deny that possiblity.  Man we got Honko voting for himself out of something or other.  He's going Goose on us!   For some reason I just can't bring myself to go with the "flo".  I think the point that was made by someone that at least a couple mafia are voting for him if he's not mafia himself.  I know if he's to die, well all figure out a few key things, so ya know, I think his death either way right now is a good thing, just cause someone needs to go down by the end of the "day", and we need to see who the mafia bandwagoners are voting.... hell if he's mafia then well really know, but if he's not, then maybe a couple more suspects so what the hey...

unvote
vote: flo1


I actually feel bad for him, but were trying to win a game here so see ya on the other side.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/28/09 at 07:38:38

This lynch looks like it's going to be MVT or Flo. I still think Brutus is useless but as it's been a few more hours and the focus is still on those two there doesn't seem to be much point keeping my vote on him as we get towards the end of the day. I think the language factor is making me unsure about voting for Flo because I think it's quite possible that he's just not that effective at defending himself. There are some pretty quiet people who have been sitting on the fence and I'm waiting to hear from fairly soon or they'll be at the top of my suspect list. I'm not entirely convinced by MVT's explanation and at the moment he's still a little behind Flo in terms of danger so I think I'd like to see how he deals with a little more pressure.

unvote
Vote MVT


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/28/09 at 08:35:40


143122392523500 wrote:
Flo seems pretty suspicious right now but because of the point about his language and what Honko said about not putting pressure all on one person, I'm not going to switch my vote to him.


That's kind of what I'm thinking. Flo looks a bit suspicious, and he might be mafia, but Honko keeps defending him basically, so I wonder...if Flo is mafia, and Honko is defending him, then I would assume Honko is mafia as well.

Somehow if Flo is mafia, I don't think he would have a power role based on his play so far, so I'm voting Honko just because they both look like mafia, and imo, Honko is the stronger player (more experience).

vote: Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/28/09 at 08:42:22

i know someone (etch maybe?) said earlier that it would look suspicious if you voted and didnt bring anything new to the table, but with MVT and Flo, what more is there to say? MVT is posting really aggressively, and still hasnt brought much of anything constructive, so he definitely looks like mafia right now.
Flo was looking like suspect #1 earlier in the day, and i still say he looks suspicious, but whoever brought up the language barrier made a good point. Its hard for us to understand him sometimes, and he is just not that good at defending himself, so who knows? Im not saying i count him out in any way though.

and where is Adam L? i thought hed be pretty active in this topic, but hes only made a few posts...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/28/09 at 08:51:42


5C6A797F7776475E776A7B7D180 wrote:
Jesus christ, 8 pages in 24 hours?  Give me a break.

unvote
vote: Flo1


That was Adam's last post. Not exactly detailed. Jumping on the Flo bandwagon with no explanation strikes me as a pretty suspicious vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/28/09 at 09:14:48

It's called the weekend, I'm not going to be on every waking moment.  I just woke up, give me a fucking break.  I don't give a shit if you lynch me or not, I'm a needledick(and proud of it).

Furthermore, what the fuck is the point of saying "I think Flo is mafia because of x x and x".  It's all been covered, excuse me if I don't feel the need to explain why I'm voting for him(because someone else called him out on being suspicious and their argument actually held merit).  Besides, it's the first day, there's absolutely nothing to run on.  We're all just throwing shit everywhere we can in hopes of someone slipping up at which point we'll bandwagon lynch them so hard it's impossible to stop(most likely a townie will get raped at this point).

So excuse me if I don't feel like sitting here dissecting the same points as everyone else coming to the same conclusions as everyone else at the same time as everyone else.  I'll post when I feel like I actually have something of worth to say, not just spout off whatever little detail comes into my head.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/28/09 at 09:17:09

Furthermore, anyone who wants to lynch Brutus is a retard.  He's not mafia, and lynching him because "oh man he's confusing!" is borderline Downs syndrome.  Just avoid reading his posts, don't lynch him while clearly knowing he's a townie and give the mafia yet another advantage(considering you guys are probably going to bandwagon lynch a townie the next few days in a row).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 09:58:50


7E74676170674A736770747E150 wrote:
@ MVT: Nothing is apparant yet, so assuming you've found an early mafia is just silly. In the same token, you seem to be pushing on the flo bandwagon rather hard.



I have barely mentioned anything regarding the flo1 bandwagon.  I voted for him, gave a brief reason and that was that.

This is getting rather out of hand.  You guys are looking for hard proof that I am not mafia.  I can not supply that whatsoever.  I can continue to push hard on people for information throughout this game.       I think it is really silly that everyone has suddenly bandwagoned against me.  At least I am trying to do SOMETHING.  What about all of the people who have made 2-3 posts so far and are just coasting there way to future rounds?  Why should I be punished for being an aggressor and you guys let some folks just slide right into day 2 completely unpressured and unnoticed?  It is almost like people are desperate enough to think "well he is the most talkative and aggressive, therefore he must be fishy."  How about the people who are least talkative?  Why should they get a free pass?  From the start I have been playing more aggressive to eliminate these kinds of players who can move on without talking.  I think people need to take a step back and actually look into these players.  Instead of jumping on me as an early scapegoat.


Edit reason "flow" ---> "flo1"


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by nstinson on 02/28/09 at 10:14:18


Quote:
This is Stinson's third post and the last one he's made. The other two were almost identical in intent. He's been almost completely absent from the game and has put forth no real opinion on anything whatsoever. I'd say that Flo (as well as the rest of mafia) is trying to divert attention from him since literally nobody has said a word about him. If Flo turns out to be mafia we should seriously consider lynching Stinson the next day.


I haven't had the time to greatly analyze a lot of posts yet, since there's hundreds a day:-p

if you'll notice, I never said much last game until about day 4/5,

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 10:18:08

^

a perfect example of sliding by until the later rounds

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 10:30:49

One major thing the mafia last game did very well was to spread their votes out.  They never piled too many on one person.  I have no reason to believe they will try anything different this game, considering that there are probably a couple good players in that group of 7.  I now am tickled very suspiciously by April.  Just because she's a girl, no one's hardly taken her seriously, and there's not too much incentive to vote for her.  In my opinion, she has been acting like a mafia member the entire game.  April has only made two posts.  In her first post she bolded the fact that she wouldn't be posting for some time.  However, she was around last night for a while and never posted anyway.  In her first post she kind of made two semi-random accusations, just people who had been talking a lot.  In her second post she does some odd "I don't like Honko or Flo, but since Honko is more experienced I'll vote for him" move, even though Robin's not very experienced at mafia at all (but he is probably stronger than Flo).  I am just getting this real fishy smell about her  >:(

vote: April

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 10:37:25

Unvote

Vote: In Hiding


Once again you've ignored my posts asking you to reveal your role.  At least reply to me instead of acting like you don't see it.  Tell us your role so we can confirm you aren't lying and know how you can help us, or explain why you think it's a bad idea to do so.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/28/09 at 10:38:58

I know Robin said the same thing, and I'll say it too: I often read without posting anyway, and I don't see myself changing my habits for this. If my posting/access habits end up getting me lynched, so be it. But the fact that I often read without posting doesn't mean I'm doing it maliciously.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/28/09 at 10:39:04

Adam: If we don't know much yet anyway, how do we know Brutus isn't mafia? Posting the same way he always posts doesn't prove anything and just means he's less likely to slip up because we'll dismiss it as typical Brutus posting. I'll admit I wasn't voting for him because I had evidence he was mafia but if we have no idea who's mafia now then I don't think the strategy of eliminating players who are useless for town is quite a stupid as you suggest. If you don't want to rehash all the Flo arguments that makes sense, all I was doing is checking up on Extol's comment to see what you had contributed so far and I found a very brief post a few pages back.

MVT: Your 'sliding by' comment is quite appropriate, especially with Stinson. However, Stinson was actually town last game, so I don't think that really proves anything. Several town members are likely to try and slide by, especially with so many players, to avoid being the subject of both lynches and mafia night kills.

Scott: I am with you on April. I had a hunch earlier today after her initial non-committal post and her vote for Honko felt like she was trying to put the pressure back on Flo by linking him to a mafia member without actually jumping on the Flo bandwagon.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/28/09 at 10:40:36

And also: posting that I wouldn't be around for almost 24 hours means that I am still in this, but I've got other things going on as well, and I'd catch up as I can. I know some people are targeting less active players, but I'm not one of them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/28/09 at 10:55:46

could it be a new movement/conspiracy?  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 02/28/09 at 11:17:19

Robin you are complete mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by %hat on 02/28/09 at 11:28:59

Fuck man, this thread builds up posts quickly. I cant keep up half the time. As a rule, il base my vote/post on the one directly above mine. (Seans at time of writing) Hence...

unvote
vote: Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/28/09 at 11:29:36

unvote
vote: %hat

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/28/09 at 11:39:26

Unvote

Vote:  AdamL

But like, can we not get into these BS voting patterns?  At the moment it looks like it's going to be either MVT or Flo so what is the point of dismissing them and adding just a single vote to some randomer?  Might as well not vote on it.  

In all fairness it doesn't take THAT much effort to keep up with the game, unless your name is Stinson.

Unvote

Vote: MVT

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 11:41:31

Right now the vote count is about 10 for flo and 6 for MVT, no other people have more than 3 votes.
We need to figure out how many people can be reading this topic in the hour before the deadline, as Scott said before. This strategy was tried before, during the last game, but didn't work because not enough people were present.
I probably will not be there, but I will try to stay up as late as I am able.
Keep posting, as it is the best thing you can do at this point.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/28/09 at 11:51:32

What time does Day 1 actually end?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 12:04:06

Day 1 ends at 2am Eastern, April.

Who all will be present at the end of the day?

I should be here for sure.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/28/09 at 12:05:14

I won't be...I definitely need to be in bed before then for work in the morning. If I was off tomorrow I probably would be though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 12:05:47


32383B382638410 wrote:
Unvote

Vote:  AdamL

But like, can we not get into these BS voting patterns?  At the moment it looks like it's going to be either MVT or Flo so what is the point of dismissing them and adding just a single vote to some randomer?  Might as well not vote on it.  

In all fairness it doesn't take THAT much effort to keep up with the game, unless your name is Stinson.

Unvote

Vote: MVT

I'm not a fan of the BS voting either, but you seem to be falling into exactly the trap I was talking about that town fell into in the past two games.  "This guy has lots of votes already, so voting for anyone else is pointless."  If there are other things to discuss, we should discuss them.  That's why I'm voting for Tom, for example.  I want to hear his response.  Only after we've touched on everything we need to discuss for the day should we put on the finishing votes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/28/09 at 12:10:50

Ok, I see your point, but for me MVT and Flo both have been the most suspicious so far, so it's only natural I voted for one of them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/28/09 at 12:17:47


576D4A767F6A5F5971717A4A767770791E0 wrote:
Day 1 ends at 2am Eastern, April.

Who all will be present at the end of the day?

I should be here for sure.


I will try to be around here in the last hour. I haven't read all new posts, so I will go to dinner and take a shower; and then I will return and post again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/28/09 at 12:23:52

I won't be up in the final hour, as that would require me to get up far too early. I'll probably be out in an hour or so, so I'll review my vote just before I go out and decide whether I should stick with MVT or not. That'll be my last action for day 1 as I don't think I'll make better decisions when tired and drunk  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 12:27:30

I don't know if I'll be here at the end.  I could be out, but if I'm home I'll be checking this topic.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Goose ♥ on 02/28/09 at 12:30:17


112B0C30392C191F37373C0C3031363F580 wrote:
I am just getting this real fishy smell about her  >:(

vote: April


Yeah Scott.  You'll learn one day what girls smell like.


CURRENT VOTE TOTAL UPDATE


10 Flo1 (MVT, Booth, Darius, onheshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, Adam L, Etch)
6 MVT (Karterfreak, Howes, Padzup, Penev, Flo1, Syzygy)
4 Honko (Kevin, Brutus, April, Clark)
2 Brutus (Kmacc)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 Clark (Adam L)
1 In HIding (Honko)
1 April (Isthatagoodthing)

Fifteen (15) votes are needed for a death by bukkake.  There are 10h27m remaining in day 1.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/28/09 at 12:38:35

Back from my long MKW session :-[

Can someone tell what is a BS vote ? I have no real idea what it could be :S

Btw, I won't be there for the last hour, even if I go to bed now I cannot get up so early...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 12:38:52

If I really look at the people who voted for me it is really not surprising.  Syzygy and Padzup both seem to hold personal grudges against me since I flame them a lot in chat rooms and in the mkwii section.  Howes only voted for me since I attacked him.  Thats 3 votes that really are garbage votes based on no evidence that I am mafia.  ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 12:39:24

Goose, you might want to check the counts on votes. Flo actually has 11, and Brutus only has one.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 12:40:36

SuperYoshi, by BS vote we mean a vote with no reason at all.  Most of Brutus's votes are BS votes.  Clark's last vote was a BS vote.  All the votes on the first page were BS votes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/28/09 at 12:44:10

I won't be here at the end :(  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/28/09 at 12:47:09

Oh and Mick, BS = bullshit.  MVT what the hell?  personal grudges aside this is nothing to do with that.  Also, I don't like how you put  ::) after the "no evidence of me being mafia" part.  Are you hiding something?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/28/09 at 12:53:20

Thanks, and yep, I got the same reaction as Tim when I see the ::).
I think MVT such as Flo, are paying the fact that they have never played mafia's game before, and don't know well the way to post and and defend theirselfes, whatever if they are mafia or townie.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Goose ♥ on 02/28/09 at 12:55:46


626E7B67626E687A7C3F3C380F0 wrote:
Goose, you might want to check the counts on votes. Flo actually has 11, and Brutus only has one.


I started at Lenny's count, not yours.  And by the time I reached yours, it was incorrect.  I don't know what to say really.  Either of us could be wrong.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 12:58:37

Goose, count how many people you have in parenthesis after Flo's name (11) and after Brutus's (1).  Also, you have Adam listed as voting twice.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/28/09 at 12:58:53

To me personally between Flor and MVT, it seems MVT looks more suspicious in my opinion. I feel Flo is just clueless and is just incapable of defending himself properly. I'm not very convinced though MVT is mafia, but he is probably the most suspicious suspect at the moment. If he is a townie, he's not doing the greatest job of defending himself, although Flo isn't either, but Flo has the language barrier excuse as people have said.

For now I'll keep my vote off of both of them because I'll be able to check back some more later. I can't say 100% I'll be here as the day comes to a close, because I have a bunch of homework and studying to get done, but I'll do what I can to be here.

@Adam: It may be stupid to vote for Brutus because he's acted this way before and was townie, but somebody said (I forgot who) that it doesn't prove he isn't mafia this time around. I know he isn't going to get lynched but it bothers me that he continues to play this way really. He is as much of dead weight as people consider Flo to be, but at least Flo is attempting to defend himself.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 13:00:46

All I meant was that Adam is on there twice, which is why I thought Flo's count was too low (it actually is 10), and Kmacc was the only one next to Brutus, and Brutus had a two next to his name.

Quote:
10 Flo1 (MVT, Booth, Darius, onheshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, Adam L, Etch)
6 MVT (Karterfreak, Howes, Padzup, Penev, Flo1, Syzygy)
4 Honko (Kevin, Brutus, April, Clark)
2 Brutus (Kmacc)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 Clark (Adam L)
1 In HIding (Honko)
1 April (Isthatagoodthing)


Your count is the right one, just the numbers were slightly off.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/28/09 at 13:11:33

I voted for MVT, not Flo. I think Goose might have counted the quote I did from Adam as me voting for Flo.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Jabes on 02/28/09 at 13:20:31

(Members viewing this topic (9): Howes, SuperYoshi1, Padzup, Fababu, Darius, Syzygy, Jabes, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], Extol.)

(Members replying to this topic (2): Padzup, Jabes.)

At this point, a Flo lynch will be eliminating either a townie with bad english, or a mafia, both of which I'm alright with.

Clark- you're style of play isn't beneficial to the town, so try to be at least a little more helpful when you choose to post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 02/28/09 at 13:25:01

"At this point, a Flo lynch will be eliminating either a townie with bad english, or a mafia, both of which I'm alright with."

I agree with this statement. This is why I'm voting for Flo1. I also think Tom is more trustworthy than Flo at the moment, and Flo is definately more suspicious than Tom is.

I have a strong feeling that if MVT survives tonight, he'll be the discussion tomorrow. Looks like getting rid of Flo is already set in stone, though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Extol on 02/28/09 at 13:30:20

@ isthatagoodthing- ill probably be able to be here for the last hour, but i might not be back on until then.

MVT is looking more suspicious to me, as he has a very weak defense, and doesnt seem to be helping us much, if at all. I know i said this before, but im just restating so you dont think im bandwagon voting.

vote: MVT

Kmacc is sort of confusing me at the moment. He keeps saying he finds both MVT and Flo suspicious, but he has not voted for either, his vote is still on brutus iirc. This strikes me as sort of suspicious, could MVT, Flo, and Kmacc all be mafia?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 02/28/09 at 13:35:27

Votes so far:

9 Flo1 (MVT, Booth, oneshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, Etch)
8 MVT (Karterfreak, Howes, Padzup, Penev, Flo1, Darius, Syzygy, Extol)
4 Honko (Kevin, Brutus, April, Clark)
1 Brutus (Kmacc)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 Clark (Adam L)
1 In HIding (Honko)
1 April (Isthatagoodthing)

Thought I'd better update as both myself and Adam were incorrectly still on Flo's count. Also added Extol's vote from just now.

Edit: modified to change Brutus' count from 2 to 1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 13:37:53

You idiots will lose the game without me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/28/09 at 13:41:17


506163787D110 wrote:
[quote author=143122392523500 link=1235628670/300#305 date=1235817065]Flo seems pretty suspicious right now but because of the point about his language and what Honko said about not putting pressure all on one person, I'm not going to switch my vote to him.


That's kind of what I'm thinking. Flo looks a bit suspicious, and he might be mafia, but Honko keeps defending him basically, so I wonder...if Flo is mafia, and Honko is defending him, then I would assume Honko is mafia as well.

Somehow if Flo is mafia, I don't think he would have a power role based on his play so far, so I'm voting Honko just because they both look like mafia, and imo, Honko is the stronger player (more experience).

vote: Honko[/quote]
Really? Honko is defending him so that he doesn't get raped before day's end. Honko was the first to say that Flo would be bandwagoned if he joined in and that's exactly what's happened so far. He wouldn't be stupid enough to defend someone who's mafia unless he was town, so if anything it'd be a better indication that Honko is mafia if Flo turned out to be town!

Your post is pretty much perfect in that it clears you from being mafia regardless of the fidelity of either Flo or Honko. IMO neither are mafia, Flo is just clueless and Honko is a good target for mafia because he's smart enough to look like he could be either one. You're looking more suspicious than both of them right now.


416E7B676E615C7B66617C60610F0 wrote:

Quote:
This is Stinson's third post and the last one he's made. The other two were almost identical in intent. He's been almost completely absent from the game and has put forth no real opinion on anything whatsoever. I'd say that Flo (as well as the rest of mafia) is trying to divert attention from him since literally nobody has said a word about him. If Flo turns out to be mafia we should seriously consider lynching Stinson the next day.


I haven't had the time to greatly analyze a lot of posts yet, since there's hundreds a day:-p

if you'll notice, I never said much last game until about day 4/5,

Yeah but last game you just didn't know what to do in that situation. Now you're just using it as an excuse. Speak up a bit, MVT is exactly right in saying that we're letting quiet people slip by. At least Howes recognizes that he'll be lynched fast unless he talks.


62606F6F6E6F626D60736A010 wrote:
Fuck man, this thread builds up posts quickly. I cant keep up half the time. As a rule, il base my vote/post on the one directly above mine. (Seans at time of writing) Hence...

unvote
vote: Honko

What?

If you're not going to bother keeping up with posts and just vote what the person above you did then there's less reason to keep you around than Stinson.


676D6E6D736D140 wrote:
Unvote

Vote:  AdamL

But like, can we not get into these BS voting patterns?  At the moment it looks like it's going to be either MVT or Flo so what is the point of dismissing them and adding just a single vote to some randomer?  Might as well not vote on it.  

In all fairness it doesn't take THAT much effort to keep up with the game, unless your name is Stinson.

Unvote

Vote: MVT

Trying to keep votes on Flo and MVT is ridiculous as there are still ten hours left in the day. If we come back to that decision at the end then let's go for it but it's far from too late to dismiss everyone else. And if either one turns out to be mafia you look innocent.


7A4B42427A4F424B2E0 wrote:
If I really look at the people who voted for me it is really not surprising.  Syzygy and Padzup both seem to hold personal grudges against me since I flame them a lot in chat rooms and in the mkwii section.  Howes only voted for me since I attacked him.  Thats 3 votes that really are garbage votes based on no evidence that I am mafia.  ::)

Ahahaha I do not hold any grudges against you. If you think I do/did then I apologize :)

I voted for you to get you to talk since nobody else would bite. You've only somewhat done that and you're far from innocent at this point but I think we should keep you around for now.

That said, the other people voting for MVT are a couple people I find really suspicious. Could be trying to associate themselves with me to make me look like mafia if they die or to make them look innocent if I go. So I'm pulling out for a bit. I'll need to wait until the end of the day for my final decision (I'll likely be here but I can't give an absolute guarantee).

unvote

Also still nobody has said a word about Matt. He's only posted a couple of times and is likely trying not to post too much so he doesn't let anything slip. Plus he's dodged my questions toward him AND he jumped on MVT soon after I did.

Vote: karterfreak

You're still most suspect to me so I'm keeping my vote on you again until tonight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Brutus on 02/28/09 at 13:46:25

After browsing the thread, I'm almost certain that Flo is some kind of mafia power role. He is obviously quite flustered because he has so many votes!

unvote

vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/28/09 at 13:48:56

Trying to keep votes on Flo and MVT is ridiculous as there are still ten hours left in the day. If we come back to that decision at the end then let's go for it but it's far from too late to dismiss everyone else. And if either one turns out to be mafia you look innocent.

I'm not just saying that because they have numbers on them.  I'm not "Trying to keep the votes on Flo and MVT" just to keep myself safe for example or that I don't care, but because those two seem like the most suspicious so far, as shown in the last x number of pages.  Don't be a cunt now Padzup.

Anyhow, I have another few hours before I go to bed, so I'll cast my final vote then.

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 13:54:13

Padzup, I've been posting whenever I'm around. I never responded to your pressure vote because I don't have anything to respond with to be quite honest. The only thing I've posted so far is one joke vote (against april), my opinion on how this game is different from the previous game, and how MVT dodged the bullet by going on the flo bandwagon and ignoring the question asked of him before.

By all means, If you want to ask me something, then ask it of me. I can guarantee you I'm on the towns side, but I won't tell you if I have a power role or note, at the risk of making our power roles more vulnerable to the mafia. (If I admit to being a needledick, then mafia have a smaller amount of people to choose from for eliminating power roles, if I admit to being a power role, then I'd be a target. Lose-Lose no matter what).

So, if there's something you're questioning, tell me what you're questioning so I can tell you my reasoning behind what I did.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Fababu on 02/28/09 at 13:54:37

At leastt this is my count:
Flo: 8.
MVT: 7.
Honko:3.
InHiding, April, Extol, Brutus and Clark: 1.
I'm almost sure that this is the right one, but I could be making a mistake.

As Sword says, Flo seems to be the possible lynch of the day, and if MVT is alive tomorrow, he'll be the discussion; the inverse is also possible. When I was looking through the posts I saw some posts of MVT that made me think:


7F4E47477F4A474E2B0 wrote:
Also if you had any incline that I was a town power, why would you be strongly trying to rally a bandwagon against me, unless of course your mafia? [smiley=beer.gif]



17262F2F17222F26430 wrote:
But my question remains, if you had any slight doubt in your mind that I MIGHT be a town power, than why in the world would you try to vote me off at this stage of the game?  Instead of killing off known deadweight or more obvious people with less chance of the kill backfiring?


Of course that we can't be sure that who are we killing is Mafia, but that's the point of the game no?
I also should say that in one of his messages he apologizes for his behaviour, which is a good point; but right after this:


Quote:
AlexPenev wrote on Yesterday at 12:19:47:
So far our best bets are:
1. no lynch, and jailkeeper throws a coin to either protect Tom or someone else who the jailkeeper thinks should be protected (like me!)
2. lynch someone suspicious/unhelpful. MVT, Brutus, %hat and Extol are already lined up to walk the plank. They'd better start talking.



You act as if I am being absolutely serious in everything I have said.  All I have been doing is throwing out some punches and waiting to see reactions.  Just as I have done to Howes and Extol, picking on some people who don't normally defend themselves and seeing if I can make them slip up.  As you said mafia knows who is who so they are the last ones that would be going out and recklessly exposing themselves and asking questions.  You seem to be the only one who is really gunning for me though, so I am not worried.


I'll keep my vote without name at the moment, because I know that making a decissive vote and then failing is horrible, so i will try to go deeper in posts.

NOTE: Ehmm... ok, it seems that some people have posted after Sword post xD.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/28/09 at 14:24:55

I am pretty sure some mafia people are pretending to be town at this point, not doing a very good job I might add.

What is with some of guys not wanting to get rid of Flo?

Even with a power role he can't possibly be of much help in narrowing down the suspects.  Let's at least lynch a useless player and see what we learn after the first night.  If we are lucky he might be mafia, if not, no real loss.


49787171497C71781D0 wrote:
You idiots will lose the game without me.


How so?

If you don't have a power role, there is nothing but your posting that can be of any use to the town.  So far you have only attracted votes against yourself.  Either you are a stupid town player or really bad at pretending to not be mafia.

It takes a lot of effort for a mafia player to pretend to be town and for those who read more into the posts, the differences can be seen clear as day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 14:41:38

Etch comes through with pretty solid posts, even though their volume is not very high.  Well said, Etch.

Padz is showing that he actually cares about the game.  I see you've seen my point about April's very odd behavior, as well.  She has been in IRC almost the entire last few days, but has only managed to make a few posts in here? That doesn't make any sense!

As many other people have said, killing Flo tonight almost certainly won't hurt the town if he's town, and if he's mafia it's a great end result.

I'm getting a little bit worried at the kind of types of players who are developing, however.  Some people are just posting a lot and not really voting ever (I'm in this group), these people seem to be breaking down the game carefully, but just not voting with each post.  Other people are talking and voting in nearly every post, showing they're thinking but not necessarily doing the best they could.  Others seem to be just here, posting, clueless.  That third category may be the least useful, but I'm thinking some of the mafia may be in the second category!

Another note: What are the benefits/drawbacks to trying to pull more votes for another candidate this late in the game.  I'm thinking that whoever has been faced with a lot of suspicion by the end of the Day (at any point in the game) will not be subject to a kill by the mafia at night.  When they choose their night kill, they are likely to pick someone who has not been targeted at all, this way they will be able to sit back and watch as more of the false targets get killed off in following days.  This means it's likely someone who hasn't gotten a single vote against them all day will be killed tonight.  That is sad, as those seem to be the strongest players.  I'm not quite sure what to do about this, but there must be some strategy to combat that effect.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/28/09 at 14:52:09


Quote:
She has been in IRC almost the entire last few days, but has only managed to make a few posts in here? That doesn't make any sense!


Scott:

I'm in IRC almost all the time, but just because I'm in IRC doesn't necessarily mean that I'm on the board all the time. I usually only make a few posts anywhere per day, if any, so I don't see how that's "odd" behaviour. Check my last 50 posts and my posts per day, and you'll see that I don't post too often, and when I do, it's generally a string of posts within the same topic.

As I've never played mafia before, I decided to spend the first day basically reading, to get a feel of what to do and how this is played, since I hardly followed the last one until the last day. I'm not going to start aggressively posting the first day when I don't know what to make of everything, and making myself look like mafia when I'm not. Now that there has been some activity and I can see how everyone else is playing, I can form my own doubts and suspicions as to who is mafia and who isn't. Those things alone don't make me mafia. If anything, it makes me a bit naive as to how the game is played.

If your only reasoning for thinking I'm mafia is that I don't post often, and I post as I always have, then you should look elsewhere.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 15:04:30

Well, that bit you spewed out about Honkers and stuff, as quoted by Padz above contributed to that a bit!  Just so you know being inexperienced makes you more likely to be lynched by day and less likely to be killed at night, so you're obviously trying to say that you don't want to be killed at night, by saying you're inexperienced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Detective Spril on 02/28/09 at 15:18:11

^Well, that's what I think. If both happen to be mafia, since Robin has more experience with the game, I'd rather him be lynched first and leave Flo1 to screw up later.

However Scott, you keep going on and on about how I haven't been posting, without any other real explanation for why you think I'm mafia, and imo, that looks suspicious to me. If you're going to accuse someone, have a better reason than "she's been in IRC the whole time but hasn't posted much."

(After all, why wouldn't I be in IRC a lot? I am an op, after all  ::) )

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 15:24:31

April and Scott seem to be posting a lot more lately.  

April is coming off as playing innocent but I also see some arrogance coming off of her.  Maybe it is because she feels that the pressure put on her has been minimal to none.

Scott is coming off as the guy who is going to try to scientifically play the game.  He seems like he is trying to build up that he is becoming much more knowledgeable.  Just by claiming that he is studying every post throughly, he seems to be trying to gain some trust, either for the good of the town or to help the mafia for later.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kevin Booth on 02/28/09 at 15:40:28

well with time running short we need to decide who we want to lynch.  I think we all have decided we do want some bukke going on.  Some whore out there needs to be covered, cause we've been saving up for this whole day.  It looks like Flo1, Honko, and MVT are our top suspicious canadates.  We definitely need to rally together and get this done before it's over.  Last thing we want is those nasties out there to get a free dominatrix shot at us without first blowing our loads, so we got it, so lets use it!  I still favor Flo for my vote, even though I think they are nice enough, they just drew the whore straw so down you go!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/28/09 at 15:53:33

@dragondragon: you need to talk more. I've got less written about you in my notes than anyone else, and that means you're not participating, which means I'm going to start pushing you up on my to-lynch list.
Tell me your thoughts on the current situation.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Syzygy on 02/28/09 at 15:57:20

I think the last post MVT made is the first "sensible" post he has made, where he has actually thought things through.  This is interesting, and I would like to see more of how he behaves, so I won't vote for him this time.  I read through to find Flo's posts and read them all.  To me it seems like he just can't get his point across how he would like, but even so, not one of them had anything constructive/beneficial to the town, so he gets my vote.

Honko I'm unsure of, I wouldn't have suspected him at all had others not menioned his name.  If you talk to him on IRC he always acts in a weird way.

Also, Stinson's attitude to the game pisses me off.  He needs to say more IMO. :/

Vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/28/09 at 16:15:00

Well I'm gonna vote for flo... as other people have said it wont be a big loss if he's actually town.  I'm not really surprised to see people not protecting him too much, as the mafia might not even mind that much if they lose him.  Should be interesting to see how this voting split between Flo and MVT breaks down tomorrow when we actually have some information and are not just picking on people who cant defend themselves.

Vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 16:17:47

Flo appears to be well on the way to being lynched, so I will withdraw my vote on MVT. He has done enough to contribute now, and is being productive, which some people definitely can't say about themselves.

unvote

That being said, we will soon need to prepare for the night, as someone will probably be killed by the mafia, and other night actions will happen. The one that concerns me the most is the Silencer. We need a way to figure out who has been silenced. I would think that the easiest way to do this would be to try to post in the topic by a set time in Day 2. This would have to be sometime that is late enough so that everyone knows that the topic is open, and that other things don't get in the way of posting by that time.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Lenny on 02/28/09 at 16:18:25

I have gone through every page carefully with these votes, I'm certain they're right. I still accept your votes if you don't unvote, so yeah. :P If someone could go back and check that would be great. I have a word document that I use to update this so I look at each vote then edit it in the document and so on until I get here.  :)

Current Votes
12 Flo1 (oneshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, Etch, MVT, Kevin Booth, Brutus, Syzygy, sully)
5 MVT (AlexPenev, karterfreak, Flo1, Darius, Extol)
2 Honko (Detective Spril, %hat)
1 Detective Spril (IsThatAGoodThing)
1 In Hiding (Honko)
1 %hat (Adam L)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 Brutus (Kmacc)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)

With 28 players alive, 15 votes are needed for a lynch. Day will end in 6 hours and 40 minutes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 16:20:14

lol you have Adam listed twice and 7 votes on MVT with only 6 people in the list ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 16:22:07

should be 5 on me now

edit Adam L took back his vote for flo1 too

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:25:03

Howes: You have the right idea about Silencer, but not everyone will be able to hold to a specific time.  How about we say whoever is silenced needs to post in the "What are you listening to right now" topic with a made up song called "Silence" or something  ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:26:22

April! Don't flip out, you're getting all worked up over nothing.  I'm the only one who's even put anything on you and you're just freaking out over there.  If anything, that's worse haha!  But at first I was pleased with how you reacted to my little experiment here, but now I'm growing even more worried that you are going to shoot me or something :(  But I hope you will be town then we can still be friends.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 16:28:05

Scott- I'm not sure that's a good idea, would it be considered cheating?
The time I was thinking of would be something like before 24 hours have passed in Day 2, unless you post beforehand saying that you would be unable to check the board by then.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 16:30:15

I'm down with a Flo lynch today, I think it's the right choice with what we know so far, and unless someone does something really stupid in the next 6 hours that should be the result.  I'm still hoping Tom gets online and answers my question today though.  Until he does, I don't see why we should spend our protection on him.  What if he's the gun owner?  We lose our only protector.  What if he's fool?  He'd never die at night if we protect him and be guaranteed a win eventually by getting lynched.  What if he's bulletproof?  Protecting them is a waste.  He hasn't given us any specifics, so even if he's telling the truth about having a role we don't know if it's in our interest to protect him.  And of course, what if he's mafia?  He gets us to waste our protection so mafia gets safer kills at night and everyone assumes he's town just because he made the easy move of saying "I'm a power role."

I like Howes' plan for dealing with the Silencer.  Everyone should post within the first 24 hours at least once, so we can easily tell who's silenced.  If you won't be able to do that, let us know beforehand.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 16:31:14

I think that would be cheating, Scott, since it's sending a message about the game outside the topic...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 16:32:25

Current Votes
11 Flo1 (oneshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, Etch, MVT, Kevin Booth, Brutus, Syzygy)
5 MVT (AlexPenev, karterfreak, Flo1, Darius, Extol)
2 Honko (Detective Spril, %hat)
1 Detective Spril (IsThatAGoodThing)
1 In Hiding (Honko)
1 %hat (Adam L)
1 Extol (Sportsguy001)
1 Brutus (Kmacc)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)

With 28 players alive, 15 votes are needed for a lynch. Day will end in 6 hours and 28 minutes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:33:19

Can't do your way either.  Half the game's players are now asleep and will not be awake before Night falls.  They don't have the opportunity to say they won't be here in the first 24h.  We'll be able to tell who is silenced as they will view the topic and not post :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:35:38

Also, I think at least three of the mafia are currently voting for Clark, Extol, Brutus, Karterfreak, Honko, or Tom.  These people each have one vote and the mafia need to spread their votes.  Keep this in mind later.

This means that it is very likely April, Clark, Adam, Tyler, Kmac, and Padz are half mafia and half town.  At least ONE of them nearly has to be mafia and two is pretty likely as well.

That is what I would guess, following the voting patterns of the mafia from last game, and the fact that it totally makes sense.  The mafia probably have four votes between Flo, MVT, and nonvoting.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 16:35:49

I'm still sure that flo1 is only having a language barrier problem here, but considering from the looks of it he's going to get lynched anyways...

Unvote

Vote: flo1


If he's not mafia, don't say I didn't say so.  :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:36:53

Jesus FUCKING CHRIST stop with the fucking votes on Flo FFS!  It's already clear he's in a large lead right now, there's no point to just jump on at this point.  You're probably just trying to make it look good in the later results anyway.  Matt, why the hell did you do that?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:37:45

What in the FUCK, that was the worst post I've seen you make ever, Matt.  "If he's not mafia don't say I didn't say so" "it looks like he's dead already" WELL THEN JESUS MAN WHY DO YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR HIM YOU FUCKING TARD?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/28/09 at 16:38:39

@whoever is cop: neither flo or mvt are worth scanning. you can guess why: both are on a timebomb, so even if you find something, you can't tell us about it in time without revealing yourself.
tom actually falls into the same category. you don't need to scan him because he is going to feed us info soon, and this info will have to check out for him to remain alive. so we're going to find out if he's town or mafia either way. therefore, scan someone else. but give tom a small chance of a scan, just in case the watchman can discover you as well as the protector.

@whoever is watchman: i've got a plan for you to find out most of the town's powers, which will involve on you sitting in on specific targets that the mafia will avoid and town powers will rush on (several at a time). after you've sat in on a few such targets, I think you should roleclaim and reveal them. then the vigilantes and lynch mob will systematically take out whoever is not on the shortlist, which will include a few sacrificial needledicks and most of the mafia. there's only 1 mafia role that can sneak into the list, but with 6 or 7 against one, town will win it easy. This tactic can't be used until about half-way through the game, so sit tight. Mafia won't touch flo or mvt tonight... don't spy on them. Consider checking Tom, which may let you find both the protector and the cop straight away.

@vigilantes: it's probably tempting to start killing suspects, but this early on it might be better to keep the numbers higher in order to draw the days out longer and collect more vote patterns and posts from everyone. That way we'll have a healthy collection of posts that will be useful either immediately or in the long-term. I think you should hold off tonight.

@town drunk: don't block tom. we're keeping him alive so he can use his power and report what he does with it. blocking him would defeat the purpose. given that the vigs are likely to remain silent tonight, it might be a good time to be testing your luck. there's a lot of mafia out there and you might get lucky.


@pazdup: when I said a no-lynch would save tom, I said that the jailkeeper would toss a coin on him. So it would still give tom a 50% shot at using his power. A no-lynch isn't so bad at the moment because we've already got a lot of posts and analysis on players with the flo/mvt split -- the day has been productive. Even if we no-lynch, we can always request the vigs to take out mvt/flo sometime in the next few nights and end up with the same result as we would have if we lynched them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 16:39:20

Why not?  I am not saying this just because he unvoted me.  The best way to beat the mafia is by moving swiftly.  You may be thinking well let's just wait until the end of the 6 hours and squeeze as many players as possible before then.  Personally though if someone took a random stab at me right now and I had only 1-2 votes I would just ignore them entirely.  

edit : the post is towards Scott

edit 2: grammar          them ---> then      hate -----> had

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 16:40:35

Yeah, Matt, that is the kind of post I absolutely hate.  "This is a bad vote, but I'm gonna make it anyway because the lynch is inevitable."  If it's a bad vote then you shouldn't make it, period.  Lay it out for us who is a better candidate, there will still be several people online between now and the end (there's like 10 people viewing right now) so it's not too late to change things if you see a real problem.  Otherwise it just looks like you're trying as hard as possible to cover your ass.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 16:43:37

And since I brought it up...

Members viewing this topic (12): sully, Honko, Etch, MVT, IsThatAGoodThing, karterfreak (replying), Lenny, Syzygy, SuperYoshi1, AlexPenev (replying), Sportsguy001, In Hiding.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:45:17

Holy fuck! Twelve people viewing the topic where only about 3 or 4 have posted? Haha! That's epic.  Those sons of bitches better be posting now.

Yeah let's hear this shit Matt, you got someone better in mind?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 16:46:43

Why are you so upset with Matt?   :-?

There really is slim to no chance of anyone with barely any votes answering tough questions at this point.

I am assuming that is why you want to drag the day out, to get more information out of people?



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 16:49:10

Yeah MVT, lots of stuff can happen in the last 6 hours or so, it gets people A-excited and B-worried

A: When everyone's excited they're much more likely to make mistakes.  Last game Day 5's end in particular (Not sure but it may have been the only day that went the full length) got many people excited.  People are bound to be tripped up!

B: When we're suddenly changing emphasis from, say, Flo, to someone else, and the votes start racking up, if that person's town or mafia he'll be really worried as it might only take 8 votes to kill him and he won't have time to defend himself properly.  This way we will get a more genuine reaction out of someone.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 16:53:19

The way I see it, we're not getting any information right now, because everyone is just voting for flo and not asking anyone else questions and finding things to make Flo look guilty. Like I said before, I don't think Flo is mafia because people are making the assumption that flo is guilty because he is defending himself badly. flo's first language isn't english, so he obviously is going to have a hard time expressing what he means in english. It'd be the same as in if this mafia game was spoken in french. The first language english speakers wouldn't be able to express their thoughts as well in english.

I personally find MVT most suspiscious, espescially after the post earlier saying that we'll lose if we vote him off. This leads me to believe he's either trying to cover his mafia ass, or he's the cockbite and is trying to protect us from lynching him. If he's the cockbite, he should speak up now instead of hiding it, because it'd be an normal kill to the mafia, and a deadly lynch for the town.

If you think i'm trying to cover my ass by voting flo, then you're being stupid, espescially after I defended him for so long, and still am.

Unvote

Vote: MVT


I'll just put my vote back to what it originally was and extend the time where we uselessly talk about flo.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 16:54:09

Thanks for the reply.  It does make sense now looking at it that way.
Although 28 players is a lot


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 02/28/09 at 16:55:03

Unvote
Vote karterfreak


Says he is sure Flo isn't mafia, yet he votes for him.  Seems like a red flag to me.  Other suspicions are for April and Extol.

Edit: This was before karterfreak changed his vote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Adam L on 02/28/09 at 16:56:24

Scott's gay and takes internet mafia way too serious, which is how the end of days can get exciting for him.

unvote
vote: Flo1


Let's get this day over with so I can see the results before I go to bed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 16:58:02


7C766563726548716572767C170 wrote:
The way I see it, we're not getting any information right now, because everyone is just voting for flo and not asking anyone else questions and finding things to make Flo look guilty. Like I said before, I don't think Flo is mafia because people are making the assumption that flo is guilty because he is defending himself badly. flo's first language isn't english, so he obviously is going to have a hard time expressing what he means in english. It'd be the same as in if this mafia game was spoken in french. The first language english speakers wouldn't be able to express their thoughts as well in english.

I personally find MVT most suspiscious, espescially after the post earlier saying that we'll lose if we vote him off. This leads me to believe he's either trying to cover his mafia ass, or he's the cockbite and is trying to protect us from lynching him. If he's the cockbite, he should speak up now instead of hiding it, because it'd be an normal kill to the mafia, and a deadly lynch for the town.

If you think i'm trying to cover my ass by voting flo, then you're being stupid, espescially after I defended him for so long, and still am.

Unvote

Vote: MVT


I'll just put my vote back to what it originally was and extend the time where we uselessly talk about flo.



flo flo flo flo flo

Unvote

Vote: karterfreak

You say you don't want to keep uselessly talking about flo, yet that is ALL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.  By continuously mentioning him you keep drawing more and more attention away from yourself and towards him.  A good strategy but you are making it way way too obvious.  Plus I have yet to hear any defense or reasoning from you this whole game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 17:01:25


202A393F2E39142D392E2A204B0 wrote:
I'll just put my vote back to what it originally was and extend the time where we uselessly talk about flo.

I don't want to talk about Flo.  I want to talk about Tom.  Nobody else seems to want to, which confuses me.  Tom either doesn't want to or didn't have time to, because he's not viewing the topic anymore, which annoys me.  Does he even agree to Alex's plan of revealing what he discovers at night tomorrow?  If he does then this can wait until then.  If not, then I don't understand why nobody else cares about him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Lenny on 02/28/09 at 17:02:36

Current Votes
12 Flo1 (oneshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, sully, Etch, Kevin Booth, Brutus, Syzygy, Adam L)
5 MVT (AlexPenev, karterfreak, Flo1, Darius, Extol)
3 karterfreak (Padzup, Sportsguy001, MVT)
2 Honko (Detective Spril, %hat)
1 Detective Spril (IsThatAGoodThing)
1 In Hiding (Honko)
1 Brutus (Kmacc)

This HAS to be right

With 28 players alive, 15 votes are needed for a lynch. The day will end in 6 hours.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 17:05:55

the 2 "no-votes" and the Brutus vote seem kind of weird IMO.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by AlexPenev on 02/28/09 at 17:06:32


72595E425F300 wrote:
I'm still hoping Tom gets online and answers my question ... I don't see why we should spend our protection on him.  What if he's the gun owner?

I already suggested that some people visit him tonight. He would have read my post. If he was the gun owner, he would have spoken up against the idea already.


Quote:
What if he's fool?

That role was removed from play.


Quote:
And of course, what if he's mafia?

Already explained. He will have to feed us information about his night actions at the latest by day 3. If his info checks out, he's legit. Otherwise we get him, using by lynch or vigs.


Quote:
What if he's bulletproof?  Protecting them is a waste.

Not if it helps the watchman discover townies. In a way, tom becomes the medium for townies to discover other townies. With protection, suspicion and a watchman, the mafia would be stupid to go anywhere near tom. He would be like a safe haven for townies to reveal themselves to the watchman. At the same time, the protection and watching should only be coin tosses, so that they're unpredictable actions and the mafia can't be sure they're going through. There's plenty of days left in the game, so if the move doesn't work out tonight, there's more days left and more safe havens will be found.
If the protector can think of a better person to protect, that's great. But does the protector have a better target? Even if he did, the watchman won't know it, so they won't pick the same person. I'm trying to coordinate them so that they help each other, while still giving them freedom to do something better (if they can think of something better).
I don't expect to live for too many days (a few have already expresses doubts about me, including tom :)!) so I'm hoping to have some impact on the game in the early days, maybe suggesting a few obvious tactics. Maybe some reusable ones, like the watchman/cop/protector combo. Depending on what happens tonight, I may have some more tomorrow.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 17:06:43

lol

MVT only has 5 ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:06:50

Lenny do you know that MVT has 5 voter-fors on your list and a tally of 6?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 17:07:36

MVT: You say I'm only talking about flo? Thats because I honestly believe he isn't mafia. Everyone is talking about flo, I'm claiming that I think they're wrong. Every post I've made relating to flo has been defending him, and I wont deny that.

You also say I'm not defending myself and that i'm not doing any reasoning. What exactly have I posted that I haven't been reasonable about or at least explained why I did it? Please, tell me.

As for the defense, I stated earlier in the topic that you can tell me about any suspiscions you have against me, and that I'll try to the best of my ability to explain whatever you want explained.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/28/09 at 17:09:20

I just made a list of all the votes that've taken place, there's been 84 votes so far.  One interesting thing is that only Fababu hasnt voted (also, he hasnt been voted for, but there are other people who havent been voted for).  After MVTs vote for karterfreak i have the votes at:

Flo 12 , MVT 5, karterfreak 3, Honko 2, In Hiding 1, Spril 1, Brutus 1

That's 25 votes, Fababu, SuperYoshi1, and Howes aren't currently voting.

Maybe by keeping a detailed record throughout the game I'll eventually be able to determine some interesting stuff rather than just intuition.  Maybe I'll be too busy with life to care though, we'll see.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 17:12:06


Quote:
I already suggested that some people visit him tonight. He would have read my post. If he was the gun owner, he would have spoken up against the idea already.

This is actually one of my biggest worries.  He's already demonstrated he doesn't understand all the roles and admitted he didn't check them all.  I really wish he would post to at least confirm he's not going to end up killing some of our power roles accidentally.

My bad about the fool.  I guess I should check the roles again too...I thought the cockbite was fool.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:12:42


052E293528470 wrote:
[quote author=202A393F2E39142D392E2A204B0 link=1235628670/400#400 date=1235868799]I'll just put my vote back to what it originally was and extend the time where we uselessly talk about flo.

I don't want to talk about Flo.  I want to talk about Tom.  Nobody else seems to want to, which confuses me.  Tom either doesn't want to or didn't have time to, because he's not viewing the topic anymore, which annoys me.  Does he even agree to Alex's plan of revealing what he discovers at night tomorrow?  If he does then this can wait until then.  If not, then I don't understand why nobody else cares about him.[/quote]

Everyone's got Tom on their minds, and he seems to still be skirting around the questions.  Alex seems to have it covered pretty well, though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/28/09 at 17:17:57

Attention stupid town people.

Obviously Flo will get lynched with as many votes as he has now.

Stop stalling and going on bullshit witch hunts.

I also don't like seeing hard questions not being answered, more red flags or just lazy readers.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:18:09

Back to the bit about the Silencer.  I have a pretty solid strategy for later use of this role.  If a Needledick gets silenced, he should be CAREFULLY watching the topic, and if the town appears ready to lynch someone that's a power role, etc, the silenced needledick should post, causing a modkill, which would end the Day.  This role can actually be used to our advantage!  The silenced person basically has the ability to sacrifice himself at any time to save a power role from a lynch.  So really, if the mafia use Silencer we should never have to worry about killing a power role by a day lynch.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/28/09 at 17:19:10

I've been wondering whether some learning algorithm would completely dominate this game, but alas, I'll probably be too lazy to implement such a thing.

Anyways, one random thought: maybe after this "not talking much -> mafia" vibe from the last game, maybe the mafia picked up on this and are all talking a lot now and just saying that people who arent talking are mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:20:52

Another note on the silencer bit: I think his "i'm posting to modkill myself while being silenced" post could also be to town's advantage if the person who is silenced is a power role as well, one with information.  He can simply modkill himself (like say on a later day after he's done many night actions) and tell EVERYTHING he did at night while he does it.  This is like a sweet-ass way to get TRUE SOLID 100% clear information through to the town.!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 17:21:22

Ummmm Scott......

how would a needledick know who the power roles are better than the rest of the town?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:22:50

The needledick may not, but sometimes lynches get going on people who aren't deserving.

The silenced person killing himself may have more value later, as outlined in my previous post.

Mafia might not like to use that role :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:25:32

Tom's online, expecting a thorough post from him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by In Hiding on 02/28/09 at 17:26:20

i'm drunk but its simple.. if you want to know what i am then ask me. But if you do then you become my 1st choice mafia.

Alex, you talked about me suspecting you, i dont yet but i wanted to see what you'd say if i asked if you were mafia. You're safe for now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:28:04

Tom, several people have asked you what your role is.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 17:28:24

More silencer theory: since we all know there's a silencer in the game, mafia could try to trick us.  They could silence nobody, and then have one of their own be quiet all day, making us assume that person was silenced and therefore innocent.  So if someone doesn't post all day, it doesn't necessarily mean they were silenced, it could be a trick.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 17:28:25


63697A7C6D7A576E7A6D6963080 wrote:
MVT: You say I'm only talking about flo? Thats because I honestly believe he isn't mafia. Everyone is talking about flo, I'm claiming that I think they're wrong. Every post I've made relating to flo has been defending him, and I wont deny that.

You also say I'm not defending myself and that i'm not doing any reasoning. What exactly have I posted that I haven't been reasonable about or at least explained why I did it? Please, tell me.

As for the defense, I stated earlier in the topic that you can tell me about any suspiscions you have against me, and that I'll try to the best of my ability to explain whatever you want explained.


My apologies by the "reasoning"  I meant reasons why you are not mafia.

I do have suspicions.  Earlier in the game you threw out 2 votes.  One against April as a bs vote (no concern here).  Another against Sully for "bandwagoning".  Since then however you have done nothing but ride the bandwagon against me as hard as anyone else on this board.  You seem to be way too concerned about just me, which is a bit confusing.  Why would you criticize bandwagoning early on and now become a huge banwagoner against me?  If you were mafia and knew I was a regular townie, than that would be a damn good reason to jump in with the crowd against me.  That would also be a reason for your heavy defense against flo1, trying to save his mafia ass.  I also don't think you answered Scott's question very well either, about why you voted for flo1 suddenly.  I agreed with you on that, but then you gave instantly and happily into the pressure to take back your vote.  Sticking with your flo vote would have been the best thing to do.  Even though you should not have changed votes in the first place, once the deed is done it looks dumb to go back and vote me again.  

I think you are caught in between here and might be tripped up.  Defense is welcomed. [smiley=dankk2.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/28/09 at 17:30:43

Scott I don't like much your strat : when will we be able to kill mafia if not during the day ? how sacrifying a needledick is better than killing a mafia ? :-X

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 17:30:48

Tom.

I want to know your role.

Can you see it this time?

I don't care if I become your #1 suspect for asking.  I've explained my reasons well enough plenty of times, and smart players will know I have good intentions.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:33:23

SuperYoshi, sacrificing a needledick is better than killing a power role.


Honko: our seeker can easily search the "silenced" person that night :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/28/09 at 17:37:49

Why would we kill a townie power role ? The goal of the game is to kill MAFIA GIRLS !!! :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:41:25

Picture the following situation.

(The 10th vote is put on Jim, who is the town's stalker, he needs only one more to die)

Jim: "OMG Guys I can't die now, I have a power role......(may or may not tell what and what he's done)"

Town reaction: "Sorry, it's too late now"

Silenced needledick: "It's okay town we will end up on top anyway because I will kill myself here and even if mafia kill Jim in the night, we A: Know what jim did and B: only lose a needledick + jim instead of a possible power role + jim"

This situation could easily happen, and similar things started to go down last game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 17:42:09

As you can see, the silencer role can really help out the town a lot!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 17:56:24

Scott, maybe the silenced person should just exercise their best judgment on whether they should talk or not. I have a feeling that this scenario isn't going to come up that often. Also, if one of the mafia is close to being lynched, they could just claim a power role, especially if it is later in the day, and if the silenced person believes them, then the mafia has a get out of jail free card.
I have a feeling that multiple mafia are still trying to slip under the radar by either barely posting or by posting random things. People should be trying to be useful to the town, or at least avoid 1 or 2 sentence posts. So far this game, %hat, oneshot, and brutus haven't given many reasons for their votes, or have been borderline spamming.
I'm not voting right now because no single person stands out in my mind as mafia. I'd rather not vote for someone that I'm not at least 70% sure is mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 17:57:34


4D7C75754D78757C190 wrote:
My apologies by the "reasoning"  I meant reasons why you are not mafia.

I do have suspicions.  Earlier in the game you threw out 2 votes.  One against April as a bs vote (no concern here).  Another against Sully for "bandwagoning".


The vote against sully was because I generally look at him as the kind of guy who would come up with a reason for voting the person, and explaining his reasoning behind voting that person.


4D7C75754D78757C190 wrote:
 
Since then however you have done nothing but ride the bandwagon against me as hard as anyone else on this board.  You seem to be way too concerned about just me, which is a bit confusing.  Why would you criticize bandwagoning early on and now become a huge banwagoner against me?


I'm not jumping on a bandwagon based off of other peoples opinions. I'm voting for you based on my OWN opinion. I would have voted for you even if there wasn't anyone else voting for you, because you seem suspiscious to me for the reasons I mentioned previously.


4D7C75754D78757C190 wrote:
 
If you were mafia and knew I was a regular townie, than that would be a damn good reason to jump in with the crowd against me.  That would also be a reason for your heavy defense against flo1, trying to save his mafia ass.

The first sentence here could very well be true, but the same could be said for every other person who "jumped into the crowd" against you. At least I formed my opinion through reading your responses rather than just going with everyone elses vote basing it off THEIR opinion. As for flo1, I've given my explanation as to why I think he's a townie. I could very well be wrong, but it's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.


4D7C75754D78757C190 wrote:
I also don't think you answered Scott's question very well either, about why you voted for flo1 suddenly.  I agreed with you on that, but then you gave instantly and happily into the pressure to take back your vote.  Sticking with your flo vote would have been the best thing to do.  Even though you should not have changed votes in the first place, once the deed is done it looks dumb to go back and vote me again.  


I think I answered scott's question just fine. With the way things are going right now, we're only dragging on the day and stalling what seems to be the inevitable.

Anything more you want an explanation for?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/28/09 at 18:02:23

@Scott : Ok I see better now : it's a strat to earn important information from power roles
Well it could be really interesting but risky : mafia who are about to get lynched might try to save their ass and lie by claiming for having a power role... so the sacrifice would turn to an epic fail.
This can be avoided if the guy who has actually this power role claim it immediately, but what if this guy is not around when the lynch is going to happen ?

Btw I realised that I still haven't voted, I wanted to choose MVT because his posts (especially the first ones) were so aggressive that it could be intrepreted as a desparate mafia cry, but now he is really trying to help us by bringing some interesting thoughts, so I think I'll let him safe for that day.

Tbh, my first real suspicions are on Tom since the beginning, seeing again the first pages of the topic, he has quickly considered some people as mafia, I noticed he voted Extol after this one made only 1 post since the game had really started, and that post hasn't something special. Claiming to have found mafia guys in a few hours at day 1 is silly to me, even for some cases which seems almost obvious (Flo1 [smiley=lolk.gif])

...(to be continued)


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 18:04:33

Matt: The question isn't whether or not Flo is a townie or mafia, but whether there is anyone more worthless left in the game

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by karterfreak on 02/28/09 at 18:11:43

Stinson would be less useful than flo1, considering stinson hasnt really said anything at all  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 18:12:00

Clark is more useless than Flo if he really intends to just vote based on the post above him.  Unfortunately he's probably not awake to defend himself, so there's not much we can do about it on Day 1.

I don't think Tom will log in again before the day ends, so no point keeping my vote on him now.  He better have some good info tomorrow.

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/28/09 at 18:38:01

(end of my post)

Furthermore, I still dont really understand to claiming having a townie power role so early, if he is really a townie, all that it does is bringing the first attention to the mafia, which would try to kill him asap, if he is killed quickly at night 1 or 2, his power will be wasted :(
If he is mafia, then it's all ok for him, if we follow Alex's plan, he can use his power for 3 days w/o being disturbed by anyone, this could be enough to put the whole town in trouble... we might reconsider a bit this plan and let him less days... I don't know :-/
Btw, like Honko has well explained (I'm glad I'm not the only one who is targeting him :)) he seems not to really care or ignore remarks we made about him and his actions, and didn't reveal his power even when people asked him... (well he might be busy, but 72 hours is an enough big amount of time no ?)

This leads me to starting thinking Tom might be a big brain mafia trying to get rid of "weak" townie people (Flo1, Extol...) and putting some confusion on smart players.

Vote : In Hiding

^since it will be a sure way that he would reply to his post.

It's bad that you won't probably reveal your power role since it's very late now, I hope you'll still be alive tomorrow so we can clear up things. I'll stop consider you dangerous if you give solid defense, or if you catch up mafia guys. ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 02/28/09 at 18:39:59


Quote:
^since it will be a sure way that he would reply to his post.

It's my post of course ^^

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 19:09:28

Ok  I am satisfied with the response from Matt.  Time to seal the deal...and since I am not staying up until 1:00 A.M...

Unvote

Vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/28/09 at 19:09:44

Tom isn't going to post tonight surely, but we'll see what he has to offer tomorrow.

Brutus imo is more of dead weight than Flo is, which is why I voted for him. Even if both don't contribute, Brutus confuses us as well which is a double negative. Nobody seems to agree with me on that though.. I understand he always does this and is townie, but Flo probably is townie too. Maybe Brutus is doing this as well because he knows you guys see this as his style and won't vote for him because of that, while he could be mafia.

You can't always overlook people just because their posting habits don't change. It can determine things sometimes, but anyone with half a brain would keep a similar posting habit while playing the game in order to keep away from suspicions.

Well, it does seem Flo is going to get lynched anyway. No reason to vote for him, having the most votes will do it for him, just going to pray he's mafia, and if not at the very least not an important power role. I'll still check back in the topic though every now and then for the next four hours just incase.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 19:11:02

13 Flo1 (oneshotbillyII, In Hiding, [ch9734]Sword[ch9734], nstinson, Jabes, dragondragon, sully, Etch, Kevin Booth, Brutus, Syzygy, Adam L, MVT)
5 MVT (AlexPenev, karterfreak, Flo1, Darius, Extol)
2 karterfreak (Padzup, Sportsguy001)
2 Honko (Detective Spril, %hat)
1 Detective Spril (IsThatAGoodThing)
1 In Hiding (SuperYoshi1)
1 Brutus (Kmacc)

Anyone care to end the day now?

Edit: Fixed for Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 19:42:19

Okay, look.  Flo has managed to get 13 votes against him without much opposition at all.  This means the mafia probably are supporting his filling up of votes, meaning he's likely  not a mafia OR the mafia don't think he's worth risking their hides to save.  I propose we kill MVT.  He's trying to get the day ended really bad, this is the "excitement and worry" that I mentioned earlier.  He's starting to get worried that people will see this, and decide to all switch their votes off of Flo and to MVT.

Of the people who vote for Flo right now, stinson, joe, drag, sean, etch, booth, brutus, mvt, and adam L could all remove their votes (they should still be awake)

Of the rest of the crew, penev, ellis, extol, padz, tyler, me, kmacc, and whoever else not voting that's up still, we can make a lynch vote on anyone still.

I propose this should be MVT.  It would only take four out of the group: stinson, joe, drag, sean, etch, booth, brutus, adam to switch to MVT, and then myself voting for MVT, to give him 10 votes and a the plurality at this late stage of Day 1.

What do you all think?

unvote
vote: MVT


To be more clear, the reason I wish to target MVT right now and get rid of him is:
There has been little opposition to the killing of Flo (basically only matt)
MVT wants the day done really soon (meaning he's nervous as hell)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 19:43:32

zzzzzz nervous?  Nah, more like falling asleep and just want to see the results for fun.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Brutus on 02/28/09 at 19:44:01

MVT has already given you guys clear reasons why he shouldn't be lynched. Why vote for him, Scott, unless you have something against him?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/28/09 at 19:45:33

Not to defend MVT, but you're wrong there Scott. If MVT was worried and wouldn't want people to see that or whatever you're saying, he wouldn't have posted an updated version of the vote count himself..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 19:48:02

He posted an updated version of the vote count so people would vote for Flo to end the Day, obv.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 19:49:19

Another note: He's been trying to get Padz + Robin to vote for Flo to end the game, in IRC, for a few minutes now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 19:50:03

End the day*

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 19:50:56

lol joking in irc becomes part of the thread?  

Scott you are really desperate my friend.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 19:52:24

No MVT, joking in IRC shows that your mood states you want to end the Day, no one else has this extreme need for the day to end so soon.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 19:58:47

And lol, why did you call me desperate? This is the first time I've even voted you yet!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Howes on 02/28/09 at 20:00:43

Scott, do you have any proof that you aren't mafia trying to save one of your own? You haven't voted for Flo all day. Maybe Scott is just trying to use the respect that he gained in the last game to screw us over. Only 13 people have voted for Flo so far, which means that the mafia still might not have voted for him. They could be voicing their agreement without voting.
Why should we trust you over other people?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 20:04:59

Scott continues to gun for me...I don't really mind though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 02/28/09 at 20:26:36

Also why am I being targeted for "information" after I have already spewed a shitload of it?  If you ask me, Scott is mafia, trying to save flo, another mafia, by targeting the person with the next most votes.

I have one other person too that I am confident is mafia, but let's save this talk for day 2.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/28/09 at 20:29:24


63525B5B63565B52370 wrote:
April and Scott seem to be posting a lot more lately.  

April is coming off as playing innocent but I also see some arrogance coming off of her.  Maybe it is because she feels that the pressure put on her has been minimal to none.

Scott is coming off as the guy who is going to try to scientifically play the game.  He seems like he is trying to build up that he is becoming much more knowledgeable.  Just by claiming that he is studying every post throughly, he seems to be trying to gain some trust, either for the good of the town or to help the mafia for later.

Actually April seems quite defensive. I'd say it's a good idea to keep an eye on her for a bit.

I've also noticed Scott has been warming up to me a bit since the game started. I don't like that.


717B686E7F68457C687F7B711A0 wrote:
I'm still sure that flo1 is only having a language barrier problem here, but considering from the looks of it he's going to get lynched anyways...

Unvote

Vote: flo1


If he's not mafia, don't say I didn't say so.  :-/

This is exactly what Tim did and I called him out for it. This is the stupidest thing you could do especially at this point, a terrible attempt to clear your name. If you're trying to slide by under the radar then don't make such obvious errors. Every action you have made today has contradicted your intentions in the last game. Whether that means you are just jaded from being lynched so early or if you are a poor mafia player is for me to decide I suppose. For now you and Tim are really looking fishy to me.

BTW I pressed the reply button to this post and then looked down at Scott's posts. I think he says it better than I ever could:


5C66417D746154527A7A71417D7C7B72150 wrote:
Jesus FUCKING CHRIST stop with the fucking votes on Flo FFS!  It's already clear he's in a large lead right now, there's no point to just jump on at this point.  You're probably just trying to make it look good in the later results anyway.  Matt, why the hell did you do that?


5E64437F76635650787873437F7E7970170 wrote:
What in the FUCK, that was the worst post I've seen you make ever, Matt.  "If he's not mafia don't say I didn't say so" "it looks like he's dead already" WELL THEN JESUS MAN WHY DO YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR HIM YOU FUCKING TARD?


However that's suspicious in itself as in the past few posts he's really been trying to get votes off Flo.


1D3039240C3932392A5C0 wrote:
longpost +

@pazdup: when I said a no-lynch would save tom, I said that the jailkeeper would toss a coin on him. So it would still give tom a 50% shot at using his power. A no-lynch isn't so bad at the moment because we've already got a lot of posts and analysis on players with the flo/mvt split -- the day has been productive. Even if we no-lynch, we can always request the vigs to take out mvt/flo sometime in the next few nights and end up with the same result as we would have if we lynched them.


I don't like the whole "hey town let's reveal our power roles on day 4!!!!!!" idea. While coordination is necessary it just makes it too easy for mafia to pick off the power roles at this point. Also mafia could use that combined with the Captivator to trick people into thinking a mafia is a town power.

Also it remains my opinion that no-lynch is our worst option this early in the game. We need to break the ice a little to see what we're dealing with.


507B7C607D120 wrote:
[quote author=202A393F2E39142D392E2A204B0 link=1235628670/400#400 date=1235868799]I'll just put my vote back to what it originally was and extend the time where we uselessly talk about flo.

I don't want to talk about Flo.  I want to talk about Tom.  Nobody else seems to want to, which confuses me.  Tom either doesn't want to or didn't have time to, because he's not viewing the topic anymore, which annoys me.  Does he even agree to Alex's plan of revealing what he discovers at night tomorrow?  If he does then this can wait until then.  If not, then I don't understand why nobody else cares about him.[/quote]
Tom is indeed suspect but I don't think we can pass judgment until Monday as he won't be back on tonight. Personally I don't think it would be a good idea to watch Tom as it just means that nobody will do anything to him because they'll know they're being watched. If you think Tom is a good idea then go for it but by no means should you consider nobody else.

I don't see any reason to vote for Flo at this point and I'm not getting sucked into Scott's end-of-day hysteria. I'm still keeping my vote on Matt. While it's sort of nice to see others voting for him finally, that wasn't exactly my intention in the first place when I voted.

Don't end the fucking day yet you idiots, we need to talk this out for as long as possible.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 20:36:55


2F23362A2F23253731727175420 wrote:
Scott, do you have any proof that you aren't mafia trying to save one of your own? You haven't voted for Flo all day. Maybe Scott is just trying to use the respect that he gained in the last game to screw us over. Only 13 people have voted for Flo so far, which means that the mafia still might not have voted for him. They could be voicing their agreement without voting.
Why should we trust you over other people?

....That's what I've said in the last 6 hours or so.

Mafia will spread their votes, only two or so will vote on Flo today

I'm not trying to use any respect (what lol, i was the worst player last game) to get you to do anything or screw anyone over.

If 13 people have voted Flo, this is what I have said.  If he is mafia then there either would be a little more feeling of resistance than just Matt, or the mafia don't give a shit about him and want him to die also.  With Flo in particular this second option seems likely.

Why should you trust me? I haven't asked for your trust at all.  I'm simply showing you things that have happened and my opinion of it.  People asking for trust are people like Tom.  This kind of game playing is not proper, in my opinion.  You shouldn't really need to trust anyone other than yourself.  Facts are the most important part of this game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 20:41:08


Quote:
I've also noticed Scott has been warming up to me a bit since the game started. I don't like that.

I've noticed this as well.  Scott is acting strangely.  He may be trying to quietly associate himself with the strongest town players so he lives longer, and so those players look bad when he dies.  Not quite worthy of a vote yet, but I'm definitely keeping an eye on him.

Then again, I've noticed you doing the same thing Padzup.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by dragondragon on 02/28/09 at 20:45:10


7A575E436B5E555E4D3B0 wrote:
@dragondragon: you need to talk more. I've got less written about you in my notes than anyone else, and that means you're not participating, which means I'm going to start pushing you up on my to-lynch list.
Tell me your thoughts on the current situation.


Sorry, I haven't been around all day, but I'm catching up on today's action.  More to follow.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 20:46:02

Okay Robin and Padz, you two figured it out.  I'm a townie :(

Thought I could fool you all  :-[

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 20:46:54

Okay, so seriously now....are we just going to let the day end with a lynch of Flo?

Also, I laughed when I saw Drag posted again.  He's so out of it!

Drag and Clark aren't really following along much, or so it seems  [smiley=dead.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 20:49:45

I will admit it I get quite worked up at the end of each Day.  I'm not acting that strangely.  In my opinion on myself, I acted more strangely (compared to previous mafia dealings) in the first half of Day 1 than today.  Today I've been playing like the normal tard who played the majority of last game!


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 20:50:49

But really isn't that the whole point of leading this thing out as long as we can? To actually get something out of the last few hours here?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 20:52:44

I wasn't just talking about the past couple pages.  You've been acting strangely the whole "day."  I just haven't been able to put into words exactly why that is.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 20:57:56

Well the first half of the Day (the distinction is the capital D) I was quite analytical and factually evaluating everything.  All the way up until when I voted for April which was when i get really bad.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 21:01:45

lol Etch is replying.  I bet he's gonna say how much he hates these discussions and why the fuck isn't the Day over yet?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/28/09 at 21:03:46


43686F736E010 wrote:
Then again, I've noticed you doing the same thing Padzup.

Hmm. I haven't been trying to at least. If you're talking about MVT I just agree with him on a few points. I'm suspicious of everyone, you included :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Etch on 02/28/09 at 21:06:12


4E74536F66734640686863536F6E6960070 wrote:
To actually get something out of the last few hours here?


You quadruple posting doesn't solve anything.

Flo has the most votes, that won't change.

Either some town players are retarded or are the most fucked up mafia ever.

Honko knows me well. :-*

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 21:08:41

Yes Etch, I'm out of control right now.  That's quite apparent.  I'm going to need some solid advice from someone, right here.  Will someone tell me what they currently think the game situation is for the next Night and Day?  I'd like to see what someone else is thinking so I can get my head on straight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 21:12:46

Maybe the town should talk in code so the mafia do not understand us anymore.  For example we will just use the first letter of our name to spell words:

s ssss ss sssssss ss ssss sss sss sssss sss s ssss ssss.

You see?

I'm joking, but we are fucked, as I have no clue what's going on.

Here are my thoughts right now:

Flo turns out to be mafia, we all cheer, we look to others.  Town wins

Flo turns out to be a dead townie, we all cry, we look to others, mafia fucks us up and town loses.

Clark and Drag are worthless, imo

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 21:13:32

I hope I get the silencer treatment tonight so I will have 4 days without being required to post.  This is just way above my thought process already. The mafia are so dangerous that I'm sure April is one, and also some others are.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/28/09 at 21:19:54

Scott, your posting is out of control, you're gonna have blue shells next to your name before you know it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/28/09 at 21:33:10

Scott, we aren't fucked.  Its Day 1, we know nothing, big deal.  Whether Flo is mafia or not doesn't decide the outcome of the whole game as you just suggested.  No one is going to say anything further here, bring on the lynching.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 21:39:21

Yeah, I think we've pretty much run out of things to talk about.

Vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 02/28/09 at 21:41:21

I have found a way to justify this vote.  By voting now to kill Flo, the time of the start of Night 1 will be maybe 2 hours earlier than if we wait it out.  This will hopefully mean Night 1 ends at that same time, and Day 2 starts then, so Day 2 will end then and we can have a LARGER END OF DAY CROWD, which will be good.  That's enough justification for me.  Goodbye Day 1!

unvote
Vote: Flo

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/28/09 at 21:44:57

ok scott have fun being "that guy" who puts the final vote on flo

meanwhile kmacc is dominatrix

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/28/09 at 21:45:22

Is that 15 votes?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by sully on 02/28/09 at 21:46:46

Yeah KMacc, 15 on Flo1 by my count.  5 on MVT, 2 karterfreak, 2 honko, 1 brutus, 1 in hiding, 2 no votes

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 02/28/09 at 21:46:50

I believe so.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Kmacc on 02/28/09 at 21:47:04

Spazzup, give me an actual valid reason why you think I'm dominatrix.

Anyway, hopefully Flo is mafia now that he's being lynched. Back to psych outlining...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Honko on 02/28/09 at 21:49:08

lockin' dis bitch up for the goosemaster

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Goose ♥ on 02/28/09 at 21:56:45

The Dawn of the First Day.  72 Hours remain.  Except not really, since we’re not playing Majora’s Mask.  But if we were, it would be really cool since that’s a cool game and all.  Anyways, the typical accusation started.  People were all like “loool this guy hasn’t posted he must be a woman!” and “looooool I’m gay, let’s kill someone I don’t like.”  But this nonchalant jabber went on for too long.  The group put on their bukkake masks and genital hiders and then went down to the town square.  They tied up Flo1 in a bathtub and everyone started pulling out their things and getting their rub on.  By the end of the situation, Flo’s face was just so covered in jizz and he was drowning in the bathtub full of spermicidal fluids.  You could smell it; the dogs which were in heat were running into town square from the fields.  It was a vile match; that of man versus and pre-man goop, baby batter, liquefied smegma and urine.  Eventually the combination of latter was too great and Flo experienced a death by bukkake.

Day 1 is over.  Flo1 was a member of the mafia, the single female lawyer.  Night 1 starts now.  Send your night actions to Lenny.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Lenny on 03/01/09 at 22:05:53

Everyone went to sleep, most people on the floor with huge headaches. While everyone was sleeping, moaning and whatnot, some evil stuff happened in that bathroom. Everyone awoke the next morning to a huge hangover. But, there seemed to be two people missing…as well as a hell of a lot of blood in that bathroom.

“A GIRL HAD THEIR PERIODD!!!! #%()#@)(%*&@”


Clark has been killed. He was a Cunt, a member of the mafia.

Etch has been killed. He was a Needledick.

Day lasts for 72 hours, until:
5pm AEST
1am EST
6am GMT
On Thursday 5th March.

With 25 players alive, 13 votes are needed for a lynch

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/01/09 at 22:06:21

I cannot believe it! Flo was a FEMALE.  Always knew that guy was fishy haha :)

Townies we rocked that one for real!

Who's on the chopping block for today?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/01/09 at 22:07:28

OMG amazing! Who managed to Kill Clark!! This is some real amazing shit right there.  Well Clark you just got owned, my friend.  Good riddance!

You probably would've been killed soon for being an ass anyway.

Etch :( sad to see you go.  At least you were only a NeedleDick

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/01/09 at 22:09:44

Okay guys I'm going to bed now.  Let's have an other successful Day for the town !!

For now I will remain suspicious of mostly April and MVT, but I don't feel suspicious for Matt's defense of Flo.  If he was mafia defending mafia he would've known it was too late to save him anyway at that point.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/01/09 at 22:11:09

Scott shut up

vote scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by sully on 03/01/09 at 22:13:48

Scott I didnt like the way you tried to get us to vote MVT at the end of the last day and then finally switched to Flo1 at the very end.  

Vote: IsThatAGoodThing

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/01/09 at 22:13:57

Excellent start for us, two mafias gone in the first day!  That puts us in great shape for the rest of the game.

Stuff to do today:
-Find out who was silenced
-Hear what Tom found out last night
-Get some posts out of our quieter people: Stinson and Oneshot for example
-Keep some pressure on the other suspects from yesterday.  Just because it's a new day doesn't mean you're completely off the hook.
-And of course, lynch some more mafia!


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/01/09 at 22:13:58

Good job to the vigilantes! Clark was awfully suspicious.
I don't seem to have been silenced right now, only question is who has been.
I'll post more in the morning, try to answer this in the next day if you aren't silenced.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/01/09 at 22:15:48


6365212169100 wrote:
Scott I didnt like the way you tried to get us to vote MVT at the end of the last day and then finally switched to Flo1 at the very end.  

Vote: IsThatAGoodThing


what's up with joining the bandwagon? highly suspicious

unvote

vote sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by sully on 03/01/09 at 22:17:44

Brutus you dont even deserve a response, but my response is: I've been planning to vote for Scott since yesterday and didnt even see your post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/01/09 at 22:18:14

You don't deserve one either, consequently I will give you one.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/01/09 at 22:19:00

because THAT makes sense.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 03/01/09 at 22:22:46


28123509001520260E0E053509080F06610 wrote:
I don't feel suspicious for Matt's defense of Flo. If he was mafia defending mafia he would've known it was too late to save him anyway at that point.

Or likely Matt thought that Flo might not have been a Cunt (as far as I know mafia aren't told each other's roles until Night 1. Lenny can you confirm?) and made a last-ditch effort to save him. And what happened is exactly what he feared :)

IMO we should lynch whoever is 'silenced' if they seem suspect. It's too likely that mafia didn't silence anyone and is trying to cover one of their own.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/01/09 at 22:24:42

I'd also like to add that maybe it was his intention for us to believe the situation that you laid out Scott.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/01/09 at 22:28:19

(members viewing this topic (11): sully, lenny, honko, isthatagoodthing, howes, padzup (replying), brutus, etch, jabes, goose, alexpenev)

Wow! What a great day/night for us! I cant believe we knocked out two mafias already...

As for the silence thing, what exactly does it mean? Does it mean someone cant talk for an entire day? Because if it does, then posting who is viewing a topic when you are is HUGE.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/01/09 at 22:33:05

Wow, great day!  Sorry I wasn't on much this weekend, but I'm typically less busy during the week.  I think we should keep targeting the quiet and odd behaviors.  I'm going to bed now, but I'll post a bunch tomorrow when I'm at work.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/01/09 at 22:35:07

This is a great start! Whoever got that night kill did an awesome job, pretty crazy to make a decision so early and be right. I was thinking it could be the gun guy but then I realized it couldn't because all Clark could do is make a night kill, and if he went for the gunman then Clark would have been the only one dead, unless vigilantes killed Etch which would make no sense lol.

So it's like 20 vs. 5 right now, the numbers are completely in our advantage! Right now I personally really need to look into things more, because I'm having a hard time finding anything that stands out as way more suspicious than anything else..

I'm gonna keep track of who posts so we can see who got silenced, although I'm sure most of you are doing that already anyway..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/01/09 at 22:37:59

Penev has viewed the topic by left without replying.  Could be the silenced one.

And yeah Joe, the silenced guy can't talk all day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/01/09 at 22:38:36

Oh and I was thinking of a possible strategy the mafia could use to try and trick us, but I'm not sure if it's allowed.

They could just silence a fellow mafia member, and then when we see that person not talk the whole time we'll automatically think that the person is an innocent townie but meanwhile the mafia is tricking us. We have to watch out for that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/01/09 at 22:39:25

Im going to go out on a limb here, but i think alex was silenced. Ive got nothing to base this on except what i see right now, and of how active he was on day 1.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Etch on 03/01/09 at 22:41:10

It's an honor to be whacked first. [smiley=beer.gif]

Make sure you guys use some common sense.  Mafia will keep people in the game who are stupid and have no fucking idea what they are talking about.  This game should be over in a matter of days if things are done correctly.  Think before voting for just anybody.  And reread older posts to see if anything useful can be inferred now.

Let's go get a drink Clark.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/01/09 at 22:41:25

Padzup: All the mafia knew each other ever since I sent out the role PMs. Also,  the mafia are allowed to talk to each other with PMs during the day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/01/09 at 22:41:38

Haha, i was replying while honko said that! Thats weird, but at least ivd got someone else who shares the same view.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/01/09 at 22:42:25

These are the people that have spoken so far (denoted by an *):

*1. Honko
2. Extol
*3. IsThatAGoodThing
4. In Hiding
5. Syzygy
6. Darius
7. SuperYoshi1
8. Sportsguy001
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
*11. dragondragon
12. nstinson
13. Fababu
*15. Kmacc
16. karterfreak
17. Detective Spril
*18. Padzup
*19. Howes
*20. Jabes
*21. Brutus
22. Adam L
*24. sully
25. AlexPenev
26. MVT
27. Kevin Booth
28. oneshotbillyII

Anyone feel free to update this as more people post so we figure who's been silenced more quickly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/01/09 at 22:45:47

Padzup, Matt isn't THAT good.  And he'd have to expect us to overanalyze the situation.  You're looking more and more like Dominatrix yourself :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/01/09 at 22:47:46

Alex could very weel be the silenced one, since the mafia would see him as a threat just because of his analytical skills so far.

Once we find out who's silenced, we need to look back at their posts to see who that person saw as suspicious. Maybe they got silenced because they had an idea of who mafia was, so mafia silenced them in order to keep them shut up for a few days so the mafia member could go back under the radar.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/01/09 at 22:52:26

As far as I know I'm not silenced. I haven't received a PM from Lenny to tell me so.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/01/09 at 23:04:32


665C7B474E5B6E6840404B7B474641482F0 wrote:
Padzup, Matt isn't THAT good. And he'd have to expect us to overanalyze the situation.

Sure he is. And look what you're doing right now ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/01/09 at 23:07:29

ya, I think it's time for Scott to go down.  Even if he's not mafia he's pissing me the fuck off in this game, and his last second vote on flo as well as posting a link to the mb mining for responses to try to get mod kills pretty much clinches it for me

VOTE: isthatagoodthing

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/01/09 at 23:20:56

Judging by how Scott is acting, I wouldn't think he's mafia. He made numerous stupid decisions last game and he was townie, so it's probably the case again. I'm still keeping my eye on him though just incase.

With Penev and Booth posting, we have these people left:

2. Extol
4. In Hiding
5. Syzygy
6. Darius
7. SuperYoshi1
8. Sportsguy001
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
12. nstinson
13. Fababu
16. karterfreak
17. Detective Spril
22. Adam L
26. MVT
28. oneshotbillyII

Most of these people are probably sleeping so a bunch will come off that list by the time I wake up I'm sure. Speaking of sleep, that's where I'm heading. I'll be back tomorrow morning, hopefully some leads come up.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jonesy on 03/01/09 at 23:32:42

My vote is for Scott.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/01/09 at 23:40:08

Some initial foods for thought.

Town-style actions:
- oneshot & tom started the flo bait -> they're very likely town
- sword joined them soon after -> likely town
- syzygy didn't know that clark was %hat -> syzygy is likely town
("likely" because he could have been pretending not to know clark. If you recall, in the last game he was talking about Mario in the third person, when -he- was Mario! Risky tactic. Some people might expect powers to do that.)
- brutus said very early on that he wanted flo gone -> likely town
("likely" because he joined the flo bw quite late, which is very mafia-like).
- scott spoke negatively of both flo and %hat early on -> scott is likely town
- kevinbooth ignored the mvt bandwagon and voted flo to keep flo in the lead
- while flo didn't mention stinson when complaining about jabes/dragon jumping on his bandwagon, stinson was one of the earlier people to vote for flo


Mafia-style actions:
- adam and mvt joined the flo bandwagon very late -> something mafia would do to cover their tracks
- when mvt was pressured, he tried to deflect attacks toward extol instead of the more obvious victim, flo
- darius voted mvt over flo, extol defended flo and karterfreak defended flo multiple times
- flo agreed with mvt on something that didn't make any sense to me, which could be mafia support. but some of the people (extol, howes, honko, karterfreak) who decided not to join the flo bw (edit: who were giving some kind of support for flo) were pointing fingers at mvt


I have a couple of more for other players, but I'd rather keep them in the dark about what I think of them :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/01/09 at 23:40:32

sully is too lame to be mafia

unvote

vote scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/01/09 at 23:52:51

can we modkill a board god?  lol.  

MODKILL: Mark Jones

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/02/09 at 01:33:33

I'm fucking your hench bruv. Don't need your help honko. Honko is mafia i know it.

Vote: Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 01:38:55

Yeah boi, south londoners know a lying cunt when we see one  ;)

I had flo from the start (he was my 2nd choice after Extol but no one else has realised he's mafia yet so I went with sean).

Honko is also dodgy.

My current list of suspected mafia is

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
Itsthatagoodthing

Still no one asks me my role.. :)

Also Alex, if you're mafia, this is a neat way to play, the over helper for the town would be a good strategy. I'd stand out like a sore thumb if i tried that style though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 01:41:32

I'm not silenced either. I voted MVT because I thought he was generally more suspicious than Flo but Flo had trouble with the language barrier and I had too many doubts over that to vote for him; I'm glad I was wrong and we killed a mafia power role. I'm still unconvinced about MVT; it's the obvious mafia play for him to vote Flo once they realised the game was up, especially as it was only a few hours before the deadline and Flo was already 6 votes clear of him.

The way Scott switched from MVT to Flo at the last minute is suspicious but against that is the fact that he was suspicious of them both early on. He also declared that 'Clark and Drag are worthless': given that Clark was mafia too, I'm going to have to say that Scott is town because I don't think he's stupid enough to play a part in taking down two mafia members in one day if he's also mafia. The only other scenario I can see there is that Scott is mafia and there's some dissent amongst them, with Scott being dissatisfied with the way mafia are playing because of the imminent Flo lynch.

The other person who went for Flo late is Honko. He was focused on Tom for a lot of the day and then voted for Flo right before Scott did. However, Clark had his vote on Honko for a while and interestingly, April also had hers on Honko when the day ended. We know that Clark's posts were pretty much one-liners with little justification but April made a specific play to go for Honko over Flo and also stated that she didn't think Flo would have a power role even if he was mafia. For me, April is the number one suspect at the moment. It may just be coincidental that she picked the same person Clark did but also trying to deflect attention away from the mafia power role seems pretty fishy to me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/02/09 at 01:56:21

Wow 2 mafia already killed ! The viligantes did a great job [smiley=beer.gif]

So far since Flo was really a mafia, Matt and Scott would be the 2 suspicious guys, since matt defended Flo a lot, and Scott was the last to close Flo's bandwagon, indeed their posts weren't very clean :-/
I'll go with the first one, I think that at the end at the previous day, scott was just too excited, and I doubt he is mafia.

Vote : karterfreak

I don't think MVT is mafia, otherwise he wouldn't have want so much to kill Flo (furthermore when his target had actually a power role)
And I'll keep an eye on Tom still, along with other some quiet people (nstinson, April, and especillay Sportsguy, which I think has barely posted...)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 02:00:53

An update on the players who still could have been silenced:

2. Extol
5. Syzygy
8. Sportsguy001
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
12. nstinson
13. Fababu
16. karterfreak
17. Detective Spril
22. Adam L
26. MVT

Of those, only Fababu is online now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/02/09 at 02:21:42


223E393B3725312E67560 wrote:
Still no one asks me my role.. :)

Why do you keep provocating us ? :-/

Also, wtf was the thread "Apology to mafia players" in the purgatory ? Who made it ? This is cheating, modkill should happen asap. ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 02:29:37

It was Scott, and I don't know why he hasn't been modkilled.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/02/09 at 02:31:50

Yeah, what the hell is going on?

Can someone who knows way more than me please post something so that it's not fair that only certain people can see what actions were done and the repercussions of it all...?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Fababu on 03/02/09 at 02:38:42


1D382B302C2A590 wrote:
An update on the players who still could have been silenced:

2. Extol
5. Syzygy
8. Sportsguy001
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
12. nstinson
13. Fababu
16. karterfreak
17. Detective Spril
22. Adam L
26. MVT

Of those, only Fababu is online now.


I'm playing WoW, give me a few minutes and I'll post  ;D.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 02:39:11

I want to know what happened too. I had no idea that topic had even been made until SuperYoshi said that.

Also, to Tom:


644F485449260 wrote:
Tom.

I want to know your role.

Can you see it this time?

I don't care if I become your #1 suspect for asking.  I've explained my reasons well enough plenty of times, and smart players will know I have good intentions.


Are you just ignoring Honko because you think he's suspicious or did you actually not see that?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 02:42:09

Its not worth commenting on, seems like something was mentioned in passing in IRC and its been dealt with accordingly. No need to get your knickers in a twist, on with the game.

The reason i'm perhaps goading people into asking me what my role is is purely tactical.

1) If someone asks me then they are probably mafia - because it would be to their advantage to know.

2) If I answer - which I will if asked then you will know who I am which solidifies my towness.

April hasn't posted enough for my liking, April are you mafia?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 04:37:00

fababu is reading, lets see if he posts. I think some people should post!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/02/09 at 05:00:25

Wow, WTG on the two mafia kills the first day/night  8-) Plus, it's awesome that we got rid of a key player for the mafia. (Maybe this is the beginning of a crash and burn for them...)

I just woke up a few minutes ago, and I haven't been silenced, so my two cents (having just read the last two pages):

IMO, Scott still looks mafia. He's posted that he thinks MVT is suspicious, and he was on the MVT bandwagon until right up at the end, when he changed his vote to Flo. It looks to me like he was trying to cover his ass last minute. Also, I'd like to know what Scott's suspicions on me are. I've posted nothing suspicious the whole game, and I kind of feel like he's randomly targeting me (or targeting me because I'm a girl irl, which must automatically mean I'm a girl in the game, which isn't the case). He admitted that he was "experimenting" with me....why did he feel the need to do so?

Other than that, I'm looking into Honko for reasons I posted about in Day 1 -- I want to watch and see who the bandwagon goes for this time, and how he reacts to it.

And there's a couple others I'm looking at as well, but I'm keeping it under the radar in the meantime, until I see a definite reason to go after them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 05:03:08

Tom, I'm going to assume that you a) think Honko is mafia and b) aren't going to answer his question.

A couple of thoughts I had on other suspicious players and quotes while reading everything through:

Extol said this early on when Flo was being accused:


7A676B70732827281F0 wrote:
lol @ flo being mafia :P
if he was mafia i dont think hed be able to contain himself.


This was one of the earliest attempts to dissuade people from voting for Flo. Extol's vote ultimately ended up on MVT.

Also, the response both Clark and Brutus had to the Flo accusations was to actually agree and make a somewhat logical comment. Ordinarily that wouldn't have stood out, but as a lot of both Clark and Brutus' posts were random accusations or simply useless comments/votes, I thought it was worth noting. However, Brutus did vote for Flo after agreeing he seemed like mafia, whereas Clark didn't. Clark also claimed that SuperYoshi seemed suspicious early on without actually voting for him, just as he did with Flo. However, there was no response to this and Clark soon switched his attention to Padzup, who he DID vote for. Later, we see SuperYoshi trying to shift attention away from Clark:


6F494C594E65534F54550D3C0 wrote:
For those who voted Brutus : like previously he is likely once again a townie who is trying to confuse us. ::) I don't see much the point of lynching him, I doubt he is really dangerous, or does have any power role. Same for Clark...
Better would be to focus on other players.


SuperYoshi also didn't vote for Flo despite declaring he was almost certain to get lynched, even with over 24 hours remaining, instead being the sole player to leave his vote on Tom.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Fababu on 03/02/09 at 05:11:23

Here is my post Tom xD.
Firstly a big clap for the vigilantes, with they great work we have earned an advantage of 4-1, keep the good work.
I don't remember who, I will look for it after, but someone point that I was the only one that I haven't voted at day 1. Easy explanation: when I went to sleep at saturday, I haven't decided my vote yet, so I thought that at the next morning before the day 1 ends I could made my vote; but the post was closed since a few minutes before when I woke up. BTW imagine my situation: if I voted for MTV/Flo (the two who most votes had at that moment), whoever have became lynched I will seem suspicious to the eyes of everyone. The same as if I voted for someone with no or just a few votes. I will try to not repeat that situation, because it gives a bad image of me.
About probable suspicious, MVT was the second most voted last day and he hasn't posted yet (well, it's logic, he should be sleeping), btw I will like to hear him soon. Tom is making a weird game with his posts about his role; but I think that he isn't mafia.
I will continue later, time to lunch!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 06:33:34

I'm not silenced.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by Padzup on 03/02/09 at 06:40:07

First off, let's talk a bit about Tim. He went completely under the radar Day 1 and has made a couple of sketchy moves:


565C5F5C425C250 wrote:
Unvote

Vote:  AdamL

But like, can we not get into these BS voting patterns?  At the moment it looks like it's going to be either MVT or Flo so what is the point of dismissing them and adding just a single vote to some randomer?  Might as well not vote on it.  

In all fairness it doesn't take THAT much effort to keep up with the game, unless your name is Stinson.

Unvote

Vote: MVT

Two red flags here: the first being that he tries to command the town's voting power between Flo/MVT, then proceeds to vote MVT (looks like he's trying to get the more spread-out voters to go MVT); the second being that he's noticing that people like Matt and April are getting votes and is discouraging that since Flo is a lost cause anyway.

Also Matt tries this strategy later on and is quickly called out for it. It's obvious why since it was far too late in the game to say something like that. But Tim jumped in there early enough to go unnoticed for the most part.

And Honko calls Tim out as well. This could be seen as another disassociation attempt. If Honko is mafia, Tim wouldn't be viewed to be because Honko seemed to disagree with Tim. That's up in the air I suppose since it's a bit hard to tell what's really going on there.

At the very least Tim seems to be able to defend himself adequately, though to be fair he hasn't been called out a ton so there hasn't been as much of an opportunity to slip up.

However:


242E2D2E302E570 wrote:
Ok, I see your point, but for me MVT and Flo both have been the most suspicious so far, so it's only natural I voted for one of them.

Tim has never said why he finds either one suspect. In fact he hasn't given any reason for anyone being suspect. But it's less obvious since he seems to be contributing as he's noticing trends in voting. Really, look back at his posts. Technically he hasn't actually said anything of real value.


4D47444759473E0 wrote:
Oh damn, I only just realised Clark is %Hat, I was about to say "Where is Clark?" /fail

Anyhow Scott, what I mean is, there is smartness of the "I CAN DO MATHS YEAH LOL" kind and intelligence in terms of logical thinking.  The latter are the ones to watch out for, and Penev and Jabes seem to be top tier from that point of view.  Howes I don't know enough about.  

Anyway, it looks like Flo's going to be lynched, probably won't be a big loss even if he's town so that's fine.  I'm going to wait a bit though, I want this to last to the last day and not come back in the morning to find the topic closed due to a lynch spree.

Likely another disassociation attempt. But it's fair to mention: how would he know Clark was playing if he didn't know who %hat was? ::)

That comment about Penev and Joe could mean a bunch of things so I won't bother going into it.

Also he says that Flo "won't be a big loss even if he's town." Even if he's town? You mean to say Flo will be a loss if he's mafia?! :-/

Overall I just don't think Tim has contributed much so far and seems pretty sketchy even though he hasn't done too bad a job covering his tracks since nobody has really looked at him seriously. If you can do something about that today, Tim, you might seem a bit less suspect.

Until then,

Vote: Syzygy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 06:45:16

Another update to the potentially silenced list:

2. Extol
5. Syzygy
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
12. nstinson
16. karterfreak
22. Adam L
26. MVT

Just 7 left now, I'm guessing the Americans/Canadians will all be up in the next few hours and I'm guessing Tim and Sword are at school, so I would expect them in the next couple of hours too.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 06:50:36

dont have much time to post now, but im just letting you know im not silenced.

ill post more a little later after class

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 06:52:26

one point i want to make though, if it gets down to two people being silent most of the day, would that mean one of them is mafia pretending to be silenced? we should keep an eye out for that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/02/09 at 06:58:22

@Darius: why would the mafia want to silence any of those players?  [smiley=lolk.gif] I'm not seeing the strategy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 07:01:59

Final votecount from day 1, as it wasn't actually posted:
Flo1: 15 (Honko, IsThatAGoodThing, In Hiding, Syzygy, [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734], dragondragon, nstinson, Jabes, Brutus, Adam L, Etch, Sully, MVT, Kevin Booth, oneshotbillyII)
MVT: 5 (Extol, Darius, Flo1, karterfreak, AlexPenev)
Honko: 2 (%hat, Detective Spril)
karterfreak: 2 (Sportsguy001, Padzup)
Brutus: 1 (Kmacc)
In Hiding: 1 (SuperYoshi1)
Not Voting: Fababu, Howes

My thoughts: Flo is pretty new to mafia, so I would guess that he either did not vote for any fellow mafia members, or voted for one at the most. Flo's votes: IsThatAGoodThing, In Hiding, Brutus, In Hiding, MVT.

People who never voted for Flo: Extol, Darius, SuperYoshi1, Sportsguy001, %hat, Fababu(made no votes), Kmacc, Detective Spril, Padzup.

Post Totals:
Honko: 29
Extol: 14
IsThatAGoodThing: 53 :o
In Hiding: 27
Syzygy: 21
Darius: 11
SuperYoshi1: 14
Sportsguy001: 5  :-/
[ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]: 4 :-/
%hat: 9
dragondragon: 12
nstinson: 4 :-/
Fababu: 8
Flo1: 22
Kmacc: 15
karterfreak: 14
Detective Spril: 10
Padzup: 16
Howes: 21
Jabes: 18
Brutus: 7
Adam L: 8
Etch: 8 (5 while playing the game)
sully: 12
AlexPenev: 17
MVT: 30
Kevin Booth: 11
oneshotbilly: 7

stinson, sportsguy, and sword are the ones with the fewest posts, while Scott, MVT, and Honko have the most.

Role claims:
Extol: needledick
In Hiding: unnamed power role
Darius: town
Howes: needledick
Brutus: not mafia
Adam L: needledick
AlexPenev: useless role that can't do anything at night
MVT: none, claims that town will "lose the game without me"
oneshotbillyII: not mafia, townie

my personal potential mafia list:
Extol
Sportsguy001
[ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
nstinson
Detective Spril?

My bet is that MVT was silenced, so that he can't defend himself. He had the second most votes yesterday, although several were bandwagon votes after he had given a good volume of evidence for what he did.

Vote: Sportsguy001

you need to speak up more. Most of your posts were one or two lines, you didn't vote for Flo, and you had 5 posts over all of day 1. Very suspicious.

Note: all of these stats are through the end of Day 1 (from lenny's post saying he sent out role PMs to Goose's post saying that Flo was lynched)
Good luck.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 07:14:39

I'm not mafia, Howes.  I was mafia last game, so chances are i'm not mafia this game.  Vote for me because i don't post enough.  I don't care.  I don't think it is necessary to post every single time i view the topic like others do.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 07:20:47

Penev: That thought did occur to me after I posted the list, actually. So far Stinson, Adam and Sword have posted very little, MVT was under heavy suspicion as well as doing a bad job of defending himself and Tim has made some odd posts and decisions, as Padzup pointed out.

Of the 6, I think Ellis has done the most analysis but he's falling under suspicion as well now because of his Flo defence. I guess the mafia could have silenced MVT so that he can't defend himself but I don't see that as a good move unless he's mafia anyway; I think we're less likely to lynch him if he can't speak, especially given the response to his defence yesterday. Ellis voted for Sully, April, MVT and Flo, switching his vote back to MVT after people suggesting he was trying to cover his ass, so it's possible that MVT is also mafia and they're trying to stop one of the strongest MVT opponents. Finally, the mafia might be wary of Tim because he did a good job as Mario last game and they don't want him contributing today. He also suggested to be wary of you and Jabes, so perhaps one of you two is mafia and didn't want Tim to pursue that line of argument  :P

On a related note, I was interested to see that both Kmacc and Extol posted some kind of warning about possible mafia tricks with the silencing. Could be a tactic to try and confuse the town further as we narrow down who could be silenced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 07:51:11

class got cancelled, so im back earlier than i thought..

i just read through everythig, i hadnt even seen that kmacc posted something similar, but i see that now. that thought came to me earlier cause someone brought it up yesterday i think, so i posted it.

for clarification, someone said earlier that i defended flo, but i didnt, i had always had suspicion that either him or MVT were mafia, but i voted for mvt cause i honestly thought he was acting more suspicious, but now i see that flo was mafia. Its good, though, that we took out a mafia power role this early in the game.

As for my thoughts right now, there are a few that i have my eye on. i cant really say anything about mvt cause he hasnt posted yet today, it would be in his best interest to though, unless he was silenced. of the rest of the silenced people, im not positive that any of them are town. Someone has pointed out something suspicious from all of them i think.
sportsguy's looking suspicious to me, i dont like his defense too much. "I was mafia last game, so chances are im not mafia this game."
also, maybe im not reading into this enough, or i missed something, but didnt karterfreak defend flo pretty hard? he seems pretty suspicious to me...

as for clark, he was posting pretty randomly, but whoever made that kill id say is pretty valuable to us, they mustve picked up on something that we (or at least i) didnt. GG[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 07:52:40

Ok, sorry, I missed Honko's post.

I am the kidnapper, the town jailer. I've got a crap role see - i mean, who is going to vote no lynch when there are so many obvious mafia around? meh.

Right, now you know who I am, its pretty obvious that Honko is mafia. I called him out before but now its more certain. A real townie would not want me to own up as it potentially (albeit marginally) weakens me, therefore, town.

Vote Honko

Honko, I want you to talk alot more because I think I can read you quite well. Speak up and defend yourself (try as convincingly as possible please!) so I can disect you  [smiley=ninja.gif]

For the record the only people I trust right now are Sean and well.. Sean. No one who is town is actually being that convincing.

April - you didn't answer me, are you town?

Alex, if I asked you if you were not mafia what would you say?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 07:57:36


7F7A7377701E0 wrote:
My vote is for Scott.


Jones might have some pretty inside info there!  But for now, I'll have to make my own decision, Jones   :P.

Last game was a lot like this one, where there were a lot of low post counts in the first day.  Anyone who didn't post much on day 1 needs to talk a lot more in Day 2 imo (which includes myself).  Everyone is going to have days where they're super busy, but if you have a lot of those, you're not really contributing to the game.  I'm gonna try to do some more analyzing of the current situation before I make my initial vote for Day 2.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 08:00:43

This conversation may be relevant to what you are asking, Tom.

263A3D3F3321352A63520 wrote:
Alex is smart.

Alex, are you town?



173A332E0633383320560 wrote:
I thought you were the pro who was good at picking up on little things? [smiley=lolk.gif]
What do you think? [smiley=chairshot.gif]


Alex was probably referring to his post on the second page. The important part should be more visible now.

725F564B63565D5645330 wrote:
Damn, my role is so useless =( Lenny, I want to be able to do things at night!!


Interpret this how you want.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 08:05:58

Howes are you mafia and who do you suspect and why?

Interesting how I say that I prefer it when people talk alot more because it helps me to work out if they're mafia and then dragondragon says he's basically not gonna say anything till the very last minute then vote. lol. Dragon, suspect level just went up up up.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 08:15:24

I am not mafia.

I suspect several people, most of them I named in my earlier post.
The people who I'm fairly sure are town are: Penev, MVT, you, and Brutus.

Sportsguy seems very fishy, especially his "explanation" as to why he isn't mafia. The chances that he isn't mafia are the same as any other person, and aren't connected to the roles last game at all.

I'd also be suspicious of people who changed their vote to MVT near the end of day 1, as he had posted several times with useful information/analysis that was exactly what he had been lacking before.

Being mafia is many times harder than being town. Last game I was totally confused as to what I should do. I ended up not posting enough, and being locked into a suspicious posting pattern. First game, I didn't post all the information that I had, and ended up hurting the town because of it.

Basically, if you are in this game, post at least some thoughts as to who you think is mafia, and why. The people I'm suspicious of are mostly the quiet ones, and the ones who give few reasons for their votes. That's why I suspect Sportsguy, not because he is quiet, but because he is quiet and doesn't give reasons for his posts.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 08:21:26


4F6C736E686F7B69652C2C2D1C0 wrote:
I'm not mafia, Howes.  I was mafia last game, so chances are i'm not mafia this game.  Vote for me because i don't post enough.  I don't care.  I don't think it is necessary to post every single time i view the topic like others do.  


That's a terribly weak defense. If you're really townie and cared about the game you'd say more than just that to defend yourself. You defense is the kind of like a reverse psychology, making us think that you don't care so much that you can't be mafia. Not working for me.

vote: Sportsguy

Come up with more than that and maybe I'll put my vote elsewhere.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 08:39:05

high risk kmacc..

I definitely think that you or him is mafia (quite an obvious thing I know) I suspected you upto now but your critique of that post by sportsguy was pretty spot on.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/02/09 at 08:46:15


597C6F74686E1D0 wrote:
Also, the response both Clark and Brutus had to the Flo accusations was to actually agree and make a somewhat logical comment. Ordinarily that wouldn't have stood out, but as a lot of both Clark and Brutus' posts were random accusations or simply useless comments/votes, I thought it was worth noting. However, Brutus did vote for Flo after agreeing he seemed like mafia, whereas Clark didn't. Clark also claimed that SuperYoshi seemed suspicious early on without actually voting for him, just as he did with Flo. However, there was no response to this and Clark soon switched his attention to Padzup, who he DID vote for. Later, we see SuperYoshi trying to shift attention away from Clark:

[quote author=6F494C594E65534F54550D3C0 link=1235628670/250#267 date=1235783276]
For those who voted Brutus : like previously he is likely once again a townie who is trying to confuse us. ::) I don't see much the point of lynching him, I doubt he is really dangerous, or does have any power role. Same for Clark...
Better would be to focus on other players.


SuperYoshi also didn't vote for Flo despite declaring he was almost certain to get lynched, even with over 24 hours remaining, instead being the sole player to leave his vote on Tom.
[/quote]

Lol, didn't even notice Clark posted something about me, had to go back on the previous pages to see it. Dunno why he didn't cast vote on me though.
Tbh I thought Clark was really playing the same kind of game like brutus, that's I didn't cared much of their posts for both, but he turned out to be mafia, this prove that Brutus can be as well a mafia, with playing the same game style. I find it unlikely though... I have the feeling that Brutus is again a townie (I can be wrong a second time though...)

As for reason for not voting Flo, I've already said he was the most suspicious so far (almost everyone was right here), but when I was going to vote for him, I've seen he had already a huge lead, so I kept my vote from fear to be accused for bandwagon jumping. I think some mafia have casted a vote on him though, an easy way to avoid suspicions, as long as they put their vote early in the day.

And Sportsguy, that defense is so lame, seems like you don't know at all how to defend yourself, this doesn't help you at all along with the fact you barely post

unvote
vote : Sportsguy


If it is because you don't care that much at the game, then why do you take part on it ? [smiley=flush.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 08:47:16

^ not that i don't care about the game.  I don't care if you vote for me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 08:47:49

Suspicious quotes of day 1 involving comments about Flo or Clark.


38252932316A656A5D0 wrote:
lol @ flo being mafia :P
if he was mafia i dont think hed be able to contain himself.


Umm.  This could be an innocent comment or one to lead us away from Flo.  Good person to keep a lookout for.


3A38373736373A35382B32590 wrote:
lol, Tom is so going down in night 1.


I don't really know what to think of this.  For now, I won't comment on it.  Tom may or may not have a power role, but I'm fairly sure he's town nevertheless.


486E6B7E6942746873722A1B0 wrote:
Well it seems Flo1 will be the first guy lynched. His last posts made him way too much guilty and is likely mafia.
I won't vote for him though, at least for now, since people would accuse me for jumping on bandwagons, anyway, it's quite useless now, his vote count is already heavy compared to other guys, and even if there is about 30 hours remaining, i doubt it will change a lot.
Like Scott said, we must keep aiming for the other mafia guys (assuming Flo is really mafia). They are probably smarter than him so it will much harder to catch them. We will have to examine each post...
For those who voted Brutus : like previously he is likely once again a townie who is trying to confuse us. ::) I don't see much the point of lynching him, I doubt he is really dangerous, or does have any power role. Same for Clark...
Better would be to focus on other players.
Sorry if it's not very clear, I'm very tired. I'm going to bed now, let's see if last day bring us some more information : some people need to post a bit more...


He doesn't want us to lynch Clark, but that's perfectly understandable, because I think he'd act the same way no matter what his role was.  I guess we could keep an eye on SuperYoshi, but I don't see him as a threat.

Extol seems the most guilty from day 1, but I'd like to see other insight before I lock my vote completely for day 2.  For now, I'll have to stick with Extol.

Vote: Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 08:50:20

I voted for extol and then karterfreak on day 1.  Superyoshi reaffirms my suspicions of extol.

Vote Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/02/09 at 08:53:00


677B7C7E7260746B22130 wrote:
April - you didn't answer me, are you town?


Absolutely (I'm a needledick, so not even anyone important). I thought in my last post where I was contemplating that Scott may be assuming I'm (female) mafia because I'm female irl, and saying specifically that that wasn't the case would have answered that, but apparently not.



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 08:55:21

Where did SuperYoshi mention Extol, Sportsguy?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 08:56:16

Oops it was you.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 08:58:48

@Sportsguy: Are you purposely ignoring having to defend yourself further, or is the post at the top of this page suppose to be some kind of defense?

I also find it suspicious Sportsguy is going for Extol. Reading what people have said today, it's obvious that people find Extol suspicious. Sportsguy right now may see that as the only way to throw the attention off himself.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 09:02:50

Updated silence list:

5. Syzygy
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
12. nstinson
16. karterfreak
22. Adam L
26. MVT

I saw just now that both Sword and Matt were viewing the topic. Even if you don't have any input right now, please just post anything so we know you aren't silenced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 09:02:57

SuperYoshi: I'll accept that defence for now as I can see why you avoided voting for Flo. I'd still like to hear what you think of Tom's claim that he is the jailkeeper, as you voted for him yesterday.

Sportsguy: Your defence is truly awful in all your recent posts. Being mafia last game has nothing whatsoever to do with this game. People saying they don't care if they get voted for always makes me more suspicious too - I noticed April making a similar 'so be it' type comment yesterday about getting voted for because of few posts. Either they're town and don't have a role so they don't really care if they're eliminated (which still doesn't make sense if they want to actually play the game) or they're mafia and trying to be nonchalant. Also, I had already posted that quote by Extol just before you made your first post today; why did Drag's repost suddenly confirm your suspicions coincidentally shortly after people had been accusing you?

April: I don't think Scott is randomly targeting you. Admittedly he has been a little crazy, particularly towards the end of day 1, but myself and others have also stated that we think there's something potentially suspicious about you and the nature of your play. I gave some of my reasons for why I think you're suspicious earlier in the day: how do you respond to those?



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 09:03:40

I didn't find any of the 3 I mentioned in my post overly suspicious.  Even Extol, I said seemed most of the 3, but that doesn't say much, because I think Tom and SuperYoshi are safe.  More suspicious is the quick bandwagon to Extol with weak evidence from me.  Sorry Sportsguy, but that seemed like too easy a way out.

Vote: Sportsguy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 09:04:57

Kmacc: I meant to put this in my previous post. Tim was online before either Sword or Matt and has posted nothing as of yet so he's looking most likely to be silenced right now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 09:06:26

I don't find it necessary to defend myself any further.  iirc, on day1 i was the 2nd person to vote for extol.  Obviously i suspicious of him then, so this vote today has nothing to do with me having votes against me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 09:20:28

Current Suspect List
spotsguy
honko
extol
april

Current Safe List
Sean
Darius - his last post was pretty convincing

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/02/09 at 09:23:29


7274787A7A190 wrote:
Updated silence list:

5. Syzygy
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
12. nstinson
16. karterfreak
22. Adam L
26. MVT

I saw just now that both Sword and Matt were viewing the topic. Even if you don't have any input right now, please just post anything so we know you aren't silenced.


Posting to say I am not silenced. In my opinion, likely players to be silenced from the list above are :

Tim - So he can't defend his suspicious behaviour yesterday, and can't contribute anything more
Matt - So he can't defend himself against how he defended Flo so hard, when Flo turned out to be mafia
MVT - Perhaps maybe because of what I said earlier in the topic :


5D383938090 wrote:
I have a strong feeling that if MVT survives tonight, he'll be the discussion tomorrow. Looks like getting rid of Flo is already set in stone, though.


Silencing him would be perfect for mafia, as he is quite suspicious and can't defend himself.

I doubt Adam L was silenced. He hasn't posted much in this game so far, and isn't a threat to mafia (if he is town that is)

And the idea of nstinson being silenced Is laughable. I mean, why would they silence him? He rarely posts anything of much value, so it would be a bit of a waste.

As for last nights actions ... well done guys! 2 mafia on the first night is a great start. Tom was the first to publish his strong feeling of Flo being mafia ... and look what happened!

I never would of guessed Clark was mafia ... even if he was town, it wouldn't of been that bad of a loss anyway. Looks like we got lucky!

Not gonna place a vote on anyone yet, but I might throw it on SportsGuy, with the lame "I don't care if you vote me" attitude, along with the "I was mafia last game, so I can't be mafia this time" defence. This is utter lies, as Clark was mafia in the first game that was played (Ivootjes' game) and was mafia again this time. This defence is poor, and your attitude is poor.

As SuperYoshi said;


Quote:
If it is because you don't care that much at the game, then why do you take part on it ? [smiley=flush.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by karterfreak on 03/02/09 at 09:34:18

I'm not silenced, or at least I haven't received a PM about it. I'm sorta wishing I was now considering how suspicious I look after defending Flo1 so much in Day 1. Then again, this might be some reverse psychology from mafia? They want me to look suspicious I would assume, so If they silenced me, I'd look a lot less suspicious.

Anyways, I can't defend myself much other than saying that I defended Flo1 because of the language issue, and that I considered MVT to be more suspicious than flo1, even after his defense.

If you have any questions for me about last night, please ask.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by %hat on 03/02/09 at 09:57:09

Ah balls, I got pwned.

Well, as far as I see it, Tom was the most pissed off/concerned by me. I assume the only townies who have night kill abilities are Virgins. Hence, Tom is a Virgin. Id stake money on it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 10:03:01

Sword, I never said what you quoted that "i can't be mafia."  I said chances are i'm not mafia.  There is like a 5% chance i would be mafia in back to back game just looking at the law of averages.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 10:11:58

The chances have no relevance, it's a weak argument in itself and you have to come up with something better than that if you don't want to look suspicious. The more you use that as an excuse, the worse you look.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 10:15:14

What excuse do you suggest i use?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 10:15:16

Last game and this game are independent events.  The odds you were mafia last game are 100% and the odds this game are 25%.  100% * 25% = 25%, which is the same odds as everyone else.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/02/09 at 10:21:17

Alright, I see what you mean SportsGuy. I take back what I said, as what I said in quote marks was just the general vibe I was feeling from your posts.

Kmacc is right though, that is a weak defence in itself, and there isn't a percentage as to how likely you are to be mafia, as Lenny assigned all the roles in a random fashion, so there is no bias selection. The defence you are using is borderline weak, and it really is making you look suspicious. But you claimed that you don't care if we vote for you. Would you care if you got lynched, however?

And I recall a few people pointing me out for my lack of posts, and I apologise. I will make more of an effort to post more often. I have been reading and following the topic closely, however.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 10:25:46

Not sure what your saying dragon.  I'll continue with my weak defense as it has been put.  There was approx. 1/4 that i could be mafia last game and roughly the same this game.  

1/4*1/4= 1/16  The chances i would be mafia in both games.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 10:31:01

Last game is in the past and has no influence on this game.  What are the odds of flipping all 10 heads given the first 9 flips were heads?  It's still 1/2.  But if you asked what are the odds all 10 are heads given no flips yet, its 1/1024.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Fababu on 03/02/09 at 10:35:07


11322D30363125373B727273420 wrote:
Sword, I never said what you quoted that "i can't be mafia."  I said chances are i'm not mafia.  There is like a 5% chance i would be mafia in back to back game just looking at the law of averages.  


I haven't got anything against you during this game, but your deffenses focus in the mathematical possibility of being mafia is stupid.

Vote: Sportsguy

Give me a better deffense and I'll quit my vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 10:37:41

Better defense?

I'm not mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 10:42:23

I'll refrain from posting for awhile.  All it does is get me closer to being lynched.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/02/09 at 10:44:36

As for Tom : I'm surprised he finally decided to reveal his role, and even more surprised to see him claiming being only the jailkeeper. This is the most useless role in the game XD.
I still don't understand the fact that he said he have a power role at the beginning, even more if his role is really the jailkeeper. It would have been obvious to not say anything, and let the days happen waiting for a no-lynch (which is very unlikely to happen, I admit XD)eveal . All you have won by revealing a power is to get the attention on mafia on you and to ruin your (weak) power. I find it weird :/
Since no one else has claimed to have this power role, I guess I have nothing else to do than believe you Tom :-[

Let's just hope for you that the "possibly real jailkeeper" didn't get silenced today, the only thing which could still make you a possible mafia...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 10:54:45

Hello and good morning!  Just posting to say I am NOT silenced.  I am pretty damn sick with a flu type virus today, so excuse my absence.  I will slowly reread most of the posts from the start of the game today, and post a response later.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 10:57:20

Updated silence list:

5. Syzygy
12. nstinson
22. Adam L

It would be funny if they forgot to use their role today lol.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 10:58:58

No time for a full post this morning, but Tom, if you have time, please reread my earlier posts.  I think I have explained quite well why it helps town more than mafia for you to have revealed your role.  It would have been best if you had never said "I have a power role", but once you did it doesn't really matter to mafia which one you have, whereas it can help town to know.  I don't know how you can claim to be able to read me well when you obviously didn't actually read my posts.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 10:59:39

It could be strategy, though.

I thought I saw Tim on the boards this morning, but I'm not completely sure.

edit: @drag.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 11:07:08

It's got to be Tim who was silenced now. He was on for at least half an hour between 2-3 hours ago and everyone else who we've seen online has responded to the request to post apart from Stinson,  but silencing someone who's already silent is just a spectacular waste. Adam is the only player who hasn't been online during day 2 yet.

Sportsguy is being spectacularly useless even if he is town. Not only is his defence lazy, he hasn't bothered to do any analysis and simply jumped on the Extol bandwagon in a highly suspicious way. If he is town, he hasn't given us any good reason to believe it. Choosing to not post does nothing to convince me. I thought I'd give him another chance to defend himself but as he hasn't taken it he hasn't given me much choice.

Vote: Sportsguy001




Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/02/09 at 11:08:10


627467616968627467616968060 wrote:
Updated silence list:

5. Syzygy
12. nstinson
22. Adam L

It would be funny if they forgot to use their role today lol.


So, either Tim has been silenced, or they didn't silence anyone. Silencing the other 2 is plain silly, as they aren't much of a threat. Maybe they silenced Adam_L as they think he might have found something last night but don't want him to reveal, so they can kill him tonight? Same with Tim. Afraid of them having power roles perhaps? Adam_L, Tim, If you read this and haven't recieved a PM telling you that you've been silenced, please post here saying so.

nstinson being silenced? Very unlikely. I don't know why, he just doesn't seem like a threat to mafia in any shape or form (again, assuming he is town)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 11:18:43


0E34132F26330600282823132F2E2920470 wrote:
Okay, look.  Flo has managed to get 13 votes against him without much opposition at all.  This means the mafia probably are supporting his filling up of votes, meaning he's likely  not a mafia OR the mafia don't think he's worth risking their hides to save.  I propose we kill MVT.  He's trying to get the day ended really bad, this is the "excitement and worry" that I mentioned earlier.  He's starting to get worried that people will see this, and decide to all switch their votes off of Flo and to MVT.

Of the people who vote for Flo right now, stinson, joe, drag, sean, etch, booth, brutus, mvt, and adam L could all remove their votes (they should still be awake)

Of the rest of the crew, penev, ellis, extol, padz, tyler, me, kmacc, and whoever else not voting that's up still, we can make a lynch vote on anyone still.

I propose this should be MVT.  It would only take four out of the group: stinson, joe, drag, sean, etch, booth, brutus, adam to switch to MVT, and then myself voting for MVT, to give him 10 votes and a the plurality at this late stage of Day 1.

What do you all think?

unvote
vote: MVT


To be more clear, the reason I wish to target MVT right now and get rid of him is:
There has been little opposition to the killing of Flo (basically only matt)
MVT wants the day done really soon (meaning he's nervous as hell)




5E434F54570C030C3B0 wrote:
lol @ flo being mafia :P
if he was mafia i dont think hed be able to contain himself.


Well I skimmed some shit over.  These 2 posts stand out in my mind.

Here are a list of people I think are most likely to be mafia.  There are also a bunch of people that I consider to be safely NOT mafia.  I just can't be bothered to go and make a list of them, but if I see people voting for a few of the safe townies it will be suspicious.

Here are my suspects.  It is way to early to actually place a vote though.


suspects

Extol
IsThatAGoodThing
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
SuperYoshi1
Padzup (edit adding I left him out)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 11:23:08

Vote Count:
Sportsguy001: 6 (Howes, Kmacc, SuperYoshi1, dragondragon, Fababu, Darius)
IsThatAGoodThing: 3 (sully, Kevin Booth, Brutus)
Honko: 1 (oneshotbillyII)
syzygy: 1 (Padzup)
Extol: 1 (Sportsguy001)

Tom voted for Honko, but didn't bold his vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 11:26:36

??? People

SportsGuy001
dragondragon
DetectiveSpril
Darius
Fababu

These guys need to talk a bit more.  Not accusing any of them of mafia or suspects right now.  But I would like to hear some substance from them.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/02/09 at 11:28:52


6A4F5C475B5D2E0 wrote:
It's got to be Tim who was silenced now. He was on for at least half an hour between 2-3 hours ago and everyone else who we've seen online has responded to the request to post apart from Stinson,  but silencing someone who's already silent is just a spectacular waste. Adam is the only player who hasn't been online during day 2 yet.

Sportsguy is being spectacularly useless even if he is town. Not only is his defence lazy, he hasn't bothered to do any analysis and simply jumped on the Extol bandwagon in a highly suspicious way. If he is town, he hasn't given us any good reason to believe it. Choosing to not post does nothing to convince me. I thought I'd give him another chance to defend himself but as he hasn't taken it he hasn't given me much choice.

Vote: Sportsguy001


Say my defense is lazy all you want.  I didn't jump on any bandwagon for extol.  I was the 2nd person to vote for him the first day, which i have already mentioned.  Currently i'm the only one voting for extol.  

Maybe MVT should be looked at considering he doesn't think i'm suspicious and everyone else does.




Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 11:30:03

??? People

SportsGuy001
dragondragon
Darius
DetectiveSpril
Fababu

Suspects

Extol
IsThatAGoodThing
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
SuperYoshi1
Padzup

Anyone not on these lists I consider to be for sure town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/02/09 at 11:32:26

I'm not silenced, I'm physics homeworking.  I'll post properly a bit later.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 11:35:08

Enough time for 1 more small post before class, so I'll defend myself a little since I seem to be popular in suspect lists atm.

Tom: I already replied to you, but also I'd like you to remember that in the 1st game you spent the whole game thinking I was mafia, and I was town.  Once again, I'm town in this game and you think I'm mafia.  What's similar in both games is that I went after you a bit in the early game because I don't really like your playstyle.  Are you sure your votes aren't just retaliation?  Maybe you don't read people, at least not me, as well as you think.

April (I think it was April who posted this): You mentioned that I was on Tom all day, and then switched to Flo at the last minute.  Technically true, but it doesn't tell the whole story very well.  I never thought Tom was mafia (and since nobody has counterclaimed to be jailkeeper, it looks like he is indeed confirmed to be town), I just had my vote on him so he would answer my question.  I said all day that Flo was the best lynch, but I wanted all relevant discussions to happen before the day ended.  When it became obvious Tom would not answer my question, I took my vote off him.  When it looked like there was no more discussion left for the day, I put it on Flo.  All of this is in my posts from yesterday.

Time for class.  I'll respond to the rest of the new stuff this afternoon.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 11:44:35

So either Stinson or Adam is silenced, or the mafia haven't used it at all.

MVT: I think I've posted quite a lot today and had substance in my posts. I've reread Day 1, posted some of the most suspicious things I found, questioned a few players and strongly justified my vote against Sportsguy. Look back through my posts from today and ask me some questions about them if you think there isn't enough substance behind anything there.  

Honko: It was me who mentioned you had your vote on Tom most of the day. However, that was just part of my post that cast suspicion on April. I think if you reread my first post today you'll find that I was using it to suggest that April was mafia for voting with Clark for you instead of Flo.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 11:46:28

syzygy posted, so that brings the silent one down to between adam and stinson. like someone said earlier, why would mafia want to silence them? they hardly post much anyway...unless one of them is mafia silencing themselves as a trap. its unlikely though.

sportsguy seems the most suspicious atm, but if he was mafia, dont you think he would be trying to defend himself a little more? idk, just a thought.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 11:50:02

@ MVT- I think Darius is one of the most obvious townies imo. like he said himself, his posts have had a lot of substance in them, and he picked up on some suspicious things that no one else had.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/02/09 at 11:57:02


654053485452210 wrote:
April: I don't think Scott is randomly targeting you. Admittedly he has been a little crazy, particularly towards the end of day 1, but myself and others have also stated that we think there's something potentially suspicious about you and the nature of your play. I gave some of my reasons for why I think you're suspicious earlier in the day: how do you respond to those?


Is this what you're talking about?


7257445F4345360 wrote:
However, Clark had his vote on Honko for a while and interestingly, April also had hers on Honko when the day ended. We know that Clark's posts were pretty much one-liners with little justification but April made a specific play to go for Honko over Flo and also stated that she didn't think Flo would have a power role even if he was mafia. For me, April is the number one suspect at the moment. It may just be coincidental that she picked the same person Clark did but also trying to deflect attention away from the mafia power role seems pretty fishy to me.


To answer, yes, that was a complete coincidence that Clark and I voted the same person, but unlike Clark, I had a reason for voting Honko, and instead of just voting Honko, I chose to explain why I was choosing him instead of Flo or MVT or anyone else.

Also, I had no idea Flo had a power role until he was killed, so I had no way of trying to cover for him before he was lynched, aside from what I read in the topic. I just figured he didn't, because (even with the language barrier) he wasn't playing as if he had anything to lose for mafia, and I would think a power role would play a little more strategically. I didn't want to jump on the Flo bandwagon right off because I wasn't 100% sure he was mafia to begin with, and I instead went for someone I thought was a bigger fish in the mafia sea.

BUT...that still doesn't explain why Scott said he was "experimenting" with me. Was it just to get me to post more, or was there something else behind it?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 12:07:15

??? People

SportsGuy001
Fababu


updated

these guys need to defend themselves ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 12:20:31


5D6C65655D68656C090 wrote:
??? People

SportsGuy001
dragondragon
Darius
DetectiveSpril
Fababu

Suspects

Extol
IsThatAGoodThing
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
SuperYoshi1
Padzup

Anyone not on these lists I consider to be for sure town.


I'm not gonna make any assumptions about it, but why did you edit your post 36 minutes later?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 12:35:30

by mistake.  I was gunna update the list of ? but then I just made a new post above

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 12:42:56

Yeah, no problem.  Just wanted to make sure, because I didn't see it before you edited it :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 12:50:12

He isn't.

Vote scott.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/02/09 at 13:19:58

vote honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 13:25:11

Care to explain that vote, Tom?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 13:30:17

So either nathan, adam, or nobody silenced, that's weird. Poissbly like somebody mentioned mafia could have silenced one of their own to make that person look like an innocent townie who wants to help but can't. But both of those players barely talk, so I have no idea where mafia is going with that one, no idea what to think of that...


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 13:30:54

Stinson is viewing the topic.  Adam hasn't logged in since the day ended.  Seems like Stinson is the most likely to be silenced.  That doesn't make much sense, so it's quite possible the mafia silenced nobody and he's trying to trick us into thinking he's silenced.  But maybe the mafia just want us to think that.  That logic goes in circles, so we can't really conclude anything from it on its own.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 13:32:24

Mafia silencing themselves would not be a good idea, for the simple reason that if they were in danger, they wouldn't be able to speak to defend themselves. As Honko said, it's more likely that they are acting silenced without actually being silenced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 13:37:53

Well that means if Nathan were acting like he was silenced but really wasn't, he'd almost certainly be mafia. So whoever doesn't talk at all is gonna look very suspicious.

Nathan will also look very suspicious if he posts late when all he had to do was say he wasn't silenced. Adam hasn't been on so he at least has that excuse.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 13:43:20

like Howes said, it would be pretty foolish for the mafia to silence themselves, but if they pretended to do it that would be more likely. If thats the case, then if they had enough pressure in them, they would speak up to try to defend themselves. Should we put some pressure on Stinson? just to make sure hes not mafia..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 13:46:42

Kmacc, stop taking my thoughts! lol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 13:48:00

Well first we'll wait for one of them to post before we apply pressure of any sort. Hopefully one of them does that soon.

Nathan barely posts anyway so he's another dead weight player at the moment. So if everyone really wanted to attack him if it came down to him and just go for a lynch then we wouldn't even have to wait to see him post from applying pressure. But I'm not sure that'd be the best idea.. Any thoughts on that idea?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/02/09 at 14:38:26

VOTE UPDATE

3 Isthatagoodthing (Brutus, Booth, Sully)
2 Honko (oneshotbilly, In Hiding)
1 Syzygy (Padzup)
6 Sportsguy (Howes, Kmacc, Superyoshi, Drag, Fababu, Darius)
2 Extol (Sportsguy)


13 votes are needed for a death by bukkake.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Fababu on 03/02/09 at 14:44:42


7E4F46467E4B464F2A0 wrote:
??? People

SportsGuy001
dragondragon
DetectiveSpril
Darius
Fababu

These guys need to talk a bit more.  Not accusing any of them of mafia or suspects right now.  But I would like to hear some substance from them.



1C2D24241C29242D480 wrote:
??? People

SportsGuy001
Fababu


updated

these guys need to defend themselves ::)


It's true that I haven't posted too much. Something similar happened in previous game, and Nstinson critizise me after my death; so I'll try not to do it again.
Hopefully one of the guys that haven't posted yet will do it in the next hours; but as Honko pointed in a few messages before mine, if Nstinson have been around the board and he hasn't posted is probable that he's the silenced. Not too much more things to say. I'm keeping my vote on Tyler at the moment. I like the way MVT is making this new day, after becoming one the most voted last day, he has become more direct; and that's something what I like.
If tomorrow I've time, I will try to post before I go to school about the new posts of this night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 14:58:26

^ Finally a good explanation.  Nice post, you have persuade me not to vote for you at this time.

Instead...

Vote:  Honko

I wanna here some defense from him.  So far all he does is worry about Tom.  It's almost like he wants the mafia to attack Tom.  Or maybe he is just mafia trying to draw more attention to Tom, since he admitted he was a town power role.  Plus he has really not defended himself like some people have been forced to.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 15:00:09

VOTE UPDATE

6 Sportsguy (Howes, Kmacc, Superyoshi, Drag, Fababu, Darius)
3 Isthatagoodthing (Brutus, Booth, Sully)
3 Honko (oneshotbilly, In Hiding, MVT)
2 Extol (Sportsguy)
1 Syzygy (Padzup)


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 15:01:23

Defense against what, MVT?  Tell me why you suspect me, then I'll give some defense.  So far the only real accusation on me has been by Tom, based completely on his gut, which has been wrong quite often in the past.  I've talked about plenty else as well, so saying "all I worry about is Tom" is a flat lie.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 15:15:53

@Honko

Why did you show absolutely zero interest in voting for Flo on Day 1?  It seemed like you were trying to draw everyone's attention away from him.

5D76716D701F0 wrote:
[quote author=202A393F2E39142D392E2A204B0 link=1235628670/400#400 date=1235868799]I'll just put my vote back to what it originally was and extend the time where we uselessly talk about flo.

I don't want to talk about Flo.  I want to talk about Tom.  Nobody else seems to want to, which confuses me.  Tom either doesn't want to or didn't have time to, because he's not viewing the topic anymore, which annoys me.  Does he even agree to Alex's plan of revealing what he discovers at night tomorrow?  If he does then this can wait until then.  If not, then I don't understand why nobody else cares about him.[/quote]
:-/ :-*


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 15:35:19

That quote was in response to Matt saying that the only reason people were extending the day was to talk about Flo.  I had already stated that Flo was the best lynch for the day, and that I just wanted to get some answers out of Tom and make sure all other discussions were closed before the day ended.  There wasn't much left to talk about in regards to Flo, since it was pretty clear he was the guy we should lynch, but I did feel there was more to talk about Tom, which is why I posted that.


614A4D514C230 wrote:
Flo has been pretty silly (who wasn't expecting that?) and I'm fine with him being today's lynch eventually, but I'd like to hear more from MVT before the day is done.


0B20273B26490 wrote:
I'm down with a Flo lynch today, I think it's the right choice with what we know so far, and unless someone does something really stupid in the next 6 hours that should be the result.  I'm still hoping Tom gets online and answers my question today though.


072C2B372A450 wrote:
Yeah, I think we've pretty much run out of things to talk about.

Vote: Flo1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 15:37:27

I want to believe you but I fear that you might be just covering your tracks.  Words are words, but you didn't actually vote for flo1 until just about the very end.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 15:39:37

And I just explained why that is..........what more do you want?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/02/09 at 15:41:09

Unvote

Vote Extol


My gut is still burning from day 1 that he is mafia.

Edit: bolded

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/02/09 at 15:59:12

vote: sully

Don't go thinking you can slip under my radar. You'd better start talking!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 16:05:44

I just came up with another random theory the mafia could be using, I don't remember anyone mention it. What if one of the two people left is the silenced, and the other is mafia. Then the mafia person will claim they are the silenced party so that we lynch the townie. If that were the case we'd have to figure out which one was telling the truth.

Another case is both could be mafia and we think the above situation applies so we lynch one and see they are mafia, and automatically think the other is a townie.

These are just crazy theories, don't know if these situations will ever occur though, just something to keep in mind.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/02/09 at 16:12:57

Well if they weren't planning on it, you've sure planted the idea in their heads now Kmacc ::)

Chances are other townies may be thinking what you're thinking and you shouldn't be completely open with strategies or scenarios.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/02/09 at 16:16:19

This will be my last post before I go to bed, so if I don't reply for a while that's why. Just wanted to make a quick comment about all the potential silencing mindgames. I don't really think we should get caught up debating what Stinson and Adam might or might not be at the moment. Kmacc, you seem to be getting tied up with 'crazy theories'; we obviously need to be aware of the possibilities but as Adam hasn't even been online during Day 2, I think we should concentrate on the players who are posting and under suspicion right now. There are still going to be other mafia members out there and getting tied up in the silencing issue right now will probably cloud our judgement and shift focus away from mafia members.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 16:27:03

Scott, who are you calling a tard? :(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/02/09 at 16:31:01

I'm going to bed as well after I've readen through all of this. I will be short.
Thanks Scott for your explanation about the "silly thread".
About the "silenced player" thing, it might be better to wait that at least one on the two quiet guys could post... so that it could be clearer for us. I doubt the silencer has used his power though, especially on either Stinson or Adam... might be a trick or just that they are too much quiet, or don't care about the game, or are busy... too early to tell. Let's see tomorrow (will be away for about 12 hours maybe more...)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/02/09 at 16:49:50


27212D2F2F4C0 wrote:
What if one of the two people left is the silenced, and the other is mafia. Then the mafia person will claim they are the silenced party so that we lynch the townie.

Since that will give us a 1-in-2 chance of killing a mafia, we will simply kill both. No questions asked. Even if one is the cop and the other is a mafia, we can still kill both because it's worth it.



7E44635F56437670585853635F5E5950370 wrote:
Alex: I have been wondering why Sean has been so quiet in here as well, but he also seems to have mainly disappeared from IRC finally.

Sean is very suspicious because he should be flagging mafia all over the place. So why isn't he?

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1815/winmafia.jpg



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/02/09 at 16:57:54

Scott badmouthing me like a cunt like always. The breeze that comes out of your mouth is unbelivable. Honko is mafia so i'm voting for him, wtf are you doing? I ain't figured you out yet, but your a cunt either way.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 16:59:09


Quote:
I just came up with another random theory the mafia could be using, I don't remember anyone mention it. What if one of the two people left is the silenced, and the other is mafia. Then the mafia person will claim they are the silenced party so that we lynch the townie. If that were the case we'd have to figure out which one was telling the truth.


Wait, if the mafia is supposedly the silenced party, how can they let us know that they are silenced? They are supposed to not be able to speak.

Better idea- ignore the silencer mechanics for now. We pay attention to the suspicious people, like Sportsguy and others, and worry about the silencing if the mafia decides to silence a person that actually does things for the town. Then we know- hey, that person is probably town, and then we lynch the mafia.
The end result of this is that the Silencer role becomes practically useless, as all of us townies overanalyze the whole situation, and start reading into things that aren't there. The Silencer won't silence any townies, allowing us to have all the brainpower we need to lynch them. As a town, we are creating more suspicion of ourselves than the mafia could have done if they silenced one of us.

I'm sorry if I'm talking in circles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 16:59:24

AFAIK, I haven't been silenced, I've just not been home.  I can't keep up the same posting habits I did for the other games all the time, I'd be a wreck.  I just got home, as I take it we still have some time before the day ends, give a nigga some slack and let me catch up on all of your far-too-devoted-time.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 17:08:28

Alright, so it's either Nathan or nobody at all.

I guess you guys are right about focusing more so on the other suspicious people though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/02/09 at 17:21:00

My suspicions are now with howes. He is becoming bait.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 17:21:43

what happened to karterfreak? did i miss something that took the suspicion off him?
ive been trying to read everything, but i guess i missed something...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/02/09 at 17:33:56

Oneshot, I am 100% town. If you suspect me, you must be missing the several times when I said this. If you want anyone to be bait, it should be sportsguy. Can you honestly say that he is much more useful than Flo?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/02/09 at 17:41:11

I haven't got anything more to say, except that SportsGuy has confused the hell out of me. His defence sucks, and he is acting fishy. I'll think about this more tomorrow.

Right now I'm going to sleep, its 1:40am for me, I'm tired. Goodnight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/02/09 at 17:43:06

bruv i don't care about usefulness, all thats useful is who seems like their mafia because i don't trust any of you except Tom. But right now i'm 100% sure Honko is mafia so lets get rid of him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/02/09 at 17:59:53

LOL they silenced Stinson.  I find the fact they didn't silence Scott very suspicious cause hell we all would like to put a sock in his mouth, right?  Ya, I agree Extol and Honko are still day 1 suspicions and I join you in that assumption, but the fact they did not silence the top poster is very suspicious, and a minor suspicion that they didn't silence Penev, cause I'm assuming some power role for them or us.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 18:07:53


67656A6A6B6A676865766F040 wrote:
Ah balls, I got pwned.

Well, as far as I see it, Tom was the most pissed off/concerned by me. I assume the only townies who have night kill abilities are Virgins. Hence, Tom is a Virgin. Id stake money on it.



Is anyone thinking about this?  It seems scummy as hell to me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 18:13:03

I feel like Tom has a great chance of being mafia and is trying to play this game similiarly to last one, same style and all.  "Ye boi I have a role I won't tell you what it is you're probably mafia hey last night some cool things happened and I haven't fessed up to anything(as far as I know)".

If Tom is maf there's a good chance Oneshot is mafia but not completely 100% sure.  Tom may just be playing his friend for all he's worth :(

If Tom doesn't die in the next day or two at night by the mafia, I call shenanigans.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/02/09 at 18:14:25

ya or at least some roll block cast on him or something.  The way he was talking I figure for sure a role block would occur.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 18:15:50

I re-read my post and saw some out-of-the-way connection that I'm sure you vigilant folks won't miss, so let me assure you.  I'm not mafia, and I'm not trying to set a gameplan for me and my mafia buddies to not kill Tom for a couple days so you'll all think he's mafia and lynch him off.  I am a needledick.  Keep this in mind.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 18:19:01

I think if tom is mafia, then either hes reeling oneshot in or oneshots with him, and also tom says he is sure that sully is town, so he could also be. right now im neutral on this matter though, i havent seen enough evidence yet to conclude anything about any of the three. Dont take this to mean im suspicious, im just not sure either way.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/02/09 at 18:19:06

so you won't have a private revealing contest witih me?  You are no fun!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/02/09 at 18:27:18

Yo Booth, where is the love, man.

Do you realize the mafia would silence either someone to confuse us or because they rock the pants off the game.  If I'm makin 50+ posts that are loads of shit there's no reason to silence me.  Your posts are still in your general "I have no fucking clue what in the world is going on" mode, but are becoming more suspect to me all the time.  Lay off a bit there Boothy, you've been on me since the start for no reason.


What do I have to do for you man? Play a little MK64 or something?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/02/09 at 18:32:55


425E595B5745514E07360 wrote:
I am the kidnapper, the town jailer. I've got a crap role see - i mean, who is going to vote no lynch when there are so many obvious mafia around? meh.


Nobody has challenged Tom by saying they are the town jailkeeper, so as of now he is telling the truth to me.

If he were lying, the other person would be stupid not to come out and say so because jailkeeper is never going to get to use their night action.

So this leads me to believe that Tom is 100% town at this point.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/02/09 at 18:38:59


5C72617E79557878637F170 wrote:
LOL they silenced Stinson.

I think it's more likely that they didn't silence anyone! Because... why would anyone silence nstinson? Surely the mafia read the plan on how we can discover who was silenced? Isn't it a waste of an action?
I think the mafia's best weapons are supposed to be 1. misinformation, 2. delaying information, and 3. making someone more supsicious and hoping they get lynched. But silencing nathan only helps the 3rd case, whereas they could have made smarter plays with the silencer regarding the first two points (e.g. for case 1, silence an active mafia to make them look townie, and for case 2, silence someone who is talking a lot and making sense).

Either the mafia is playing very poorly thing game, or they're playing... somehow... smartly?... in some weird bizarro way. I guess we won't find out until it's over and we look at their night actions.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/02/09 at 18:47:03

i think they did silence stinson, or else hes not posting on purpose, cause hes been on the forum at times in the day, and he made a post in another topic earlier.  this just comes back to the silencer conundrum though, where what if the mafia silenced themself and whatnot.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/02/09 at 18:49:09


4C7A696F6766574E677A6B6D080 wrote:
[quote author=67656A6A6B6A676865766F040 link=1235628670/550#565 date=1236016629]Ah balls, I got pwned.
Well, as far as I see it, Tom was the most pissed off/concerned by me. I assume the only townies who have night kill abilities are Virgins. Hence, Tom is a Virgin. Id stake money on it.

Is anyone thinking about this?  It seems scummy as hell to me.[/quote]

Yeah, Adam, that message is weird. First, Tom had already said he's the jailkeeper. Did %hat miss the message? Second, when a mafia dies they would be expected to try and help the mafia somehow (e.g. Goose and his fake list in the previous game) rather than help the town. I don't see how saying Tom is the vig helps either the town or the mafia.

I don't understand %hat's intention. Does anyone know what his intention was?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/02/09 at 18:51:34

Well Tom's not a virgin.  In another thread he said he was sexing hundreds of chicks all night and all day for 20 years!  So I think Clark might think he's a virgin in the game, which means he is lying.  Clark is insane.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/02/09 at 18:58:04

Even as a joke Scott that comes off really shady. Also you've been making excuses for yourself saying that mafia is keeping you because you're spouting bs like last game. If you know you're full of shit why do you keep posting it? And what evidence is there that you aren't mafia trying to mislead everyone (with or without reverse psychology)?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by karterfreak on 03/02/09 at 19:08:00

Scott. You want my reason for not talking much? It's because I've been going over alot of family related shit since this mafia game started, and I've been spending more time trying to clean up the mess that they (my parents) made over this, instead of playing some trivial mafia game.

Happy now?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/02/09 at 19:08:28

lol padz, I'm not mafia.  I'm hittin up Booth because he's being a dickwad.


Can you argue against my point that I'm dumb as fuck when it comes to mafia, though.  I can let it rest for you if you like.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by sully on 03/02/09 at 19:11:11


674A435E7643484350260 wrote:
vote: sully

Don't go thinking you can slip under my radar. You'd better start talking!


I'm ill.  I've basically been in bed since Friday evening.  Haven't really read Day 2 yet.  Going back to Night 1, at that point I thought we should be examining people who supported voting MVT and those who joined the vote against Flo1 late.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 20:24:44

You deserve to be ill.  Clarkson beats RPI my ass.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by sully on 03/02/09 at 20:31:07

lol Adam, Cornell is the 2 seed, I'm happy about that.  I fuckin' hate Clarkson also.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 20:34:57

D'oh what the fuck I thought you were a Clarkson alum

Oh well, feel better soon then.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/02/09 at 20:37:37

Clarkson is going down.

Vote: Clarkson

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 20:39:57

Who has the most votes at this moment in time?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 20:47:30

vote: IsThatAGoodThing

I'll always have a bad feeling that you're mafia Scott, I think it's because I hate you.  How could you possibly not be mafia, explain that for me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 21:06:10

Well shit.  You can craft an entertaining tale my good methheaded friend.

unvote
vote: Brutus


WHY NOT BRUTUS?  WHAT DO YOU SAY?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 21:10:44

Calling me mafia is like calling a garbage disposal an "electric pig". I mean sure, it might have been done a while ago (or in Mexico City, where the Killers' video "When We Were Young" was filmed), but at this point it is tired and stale. I can lick stamps , 1/10th a calorie each and gain weight, but your baseless claims carry none. Sure, I may have been acting dormant as a snail this game, but I won't sleep for 3 years. As soon as I see something suspicious, I will spring onto it like an ostrich running 43 mph.

everyone vote scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 21:14:36

For reference, I told Brutus to use all of these facts

http://i39.tinypic.com/2hs5k09.jpg

in a reply to why I thought he was mafia.

Post of the century has been made by Brutus.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/02/09 at 21:19:09

he forgot the fan letters

Scott shut the fuck up. You've been begging for a modkill/lynch over the past couple of days. Why?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 22:27:18

"Testing" Stinson with votes seems like a waste.  If he's really silenced, he wouldn't reply, and if he's not silenced, then he wouldn't reply because replying would prove he's been faking = mafia.

This game is moving significantly faster than last game and it's hard to keep up well enough to put out good analysis as often as I'd like.  Tomorrow's my easy day of classes, so hopefully I'll have time to read everything carefully and spot some useful stuff.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 22:33:38

Vote Scott everyone we don't have much time

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 22:40:04

Lenny said if we don't make a lynch he's going to rig the game so mafia wins

so let's vote for Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 22:57:52

oh ok

Vote: [ch12381][ch12428][ch12399][ch12356][ch12356][ch20107][ch12391][ch12377][ch12363]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 23:00:22

Guys, I'm really not liking the vibe I've been getting from Matt(karterfreak) lately.  He's been really tense and angry/upset lately, perhaps from losing two mafia members so fast?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/02/09 at 23:28:55

OK, I'm going to do something a little different here. You are allowed to edit posts from now, ONLY if you are ADDING content. Editing posts to remove content remains banned. And Robin, I don't know what the matter is. =O

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 23:32:08

a

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 23:34:34

Lenny, what if I keep on editing and adding things in and it gets to be too long and I have edit - I think Matt is mafia.

edit2 - I think I accidentally cut off some of my stuff when I edited, sorry

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 23:35:43

Is there a time limit on that?  Can we sneak new stuff into old posts?  That way everyone would have to reread the whole topic every day to make sure there's no new edits.  Sounds fun! :D


yay 3000 posts

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/02/09 at 23:35:45

You can make a new post.  :) No time limit to it, that's what I was aiming at Robin, so that people can reread more and get more involved.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 23:37:24

Fuck editing. Too much work.

ya i agree

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 23:38:37

DON'T EDIT MY FUCKING POSTS HONKO NOW I CANT EDIT THAT SHIT OUT. FUCK

MODKILL HONKO

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 23:38:55

????

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 23:39:18

what the fuck

someone edited brutus's post and their name wasn't brutus.  only mods can do that and the last mod i saw was honko.  what the fuck dude.

modkill karterfreak for honko's actions

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 23:41:24

no adam i didnt edit anything.  your idea is stupid.

modkill karterfreak for that stupid idea.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 23:44:41

This is ridiculous. If you guys aren't going to take the game seriously you shouldn't even be fucking playing. Stupid shit like this pisses me off, and I'm sure the rest of the players don't approve.

Lenny, modkill both of these jokers and karterfreak for good measure.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 23:45:49

ok im sorry but i didnt do anything but im sorry i will make a topic apologizeing to the mafia players ok please dont modkill me but its ok if you modkill karterfreak still

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 23:47:28

If you're going to modkill anyone it should be by a majority vote of all the people who are writing in this post

I vote karterfreak
me too
and me
yes please

modkill karterfreak

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 23:50:20

I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 23:52:08

but you responeded already so you lied.

liers should be modkilled

modkill karterfreak imho tbqh

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/02/09 at 23:53:06

unvote

vote Karterfreak


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 23:54:01

vote: karterfreak

even if he doesn't get modkilled(which he SHOULD Lenny) we should lynch him

or we can do both at once and see how ewwy gross it is

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 23:54:25

unvote

vote Karterfreak


seems like a fish guy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/02/09 at 23:57:22

oh no jabes is here

party pooper jabes

unvote

vote Karterfreak

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/02/09 at 23:57:47

I mean hold on a second have we even evaluated the most important aspect of this

we're playing girl mafia about trying to find the girls who are determined to take our virginity from us.  understand?  ok, so roll with me here.  we're dudes who, if we are chosen in-game, will fuck a girl and lose our virginity(or something like that I SAID ROLL WITH ME HERE).

obviously having sex with one of the girls means you're dead

BUT WHAT ABOUT KARTERFREAK?  He's bisexual, he could swing both ways!  There's no way we can deny him being mafia now.

edit -- what I mean is

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 00:02:50

thats mean

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/03/09 at 00:07:20

ridiculous shit

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 00:38:03

look deep into my ghetto ass seizure gif and find the truth

http://i42.tinypic.com/14maveg.gif

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 00:38:14

This whole topic turned into one big spam-a-thon.

I just read now that Honko said "oh no jabes is here. party pooper jabes." which was 40 minutes ago.

Once again I find myself struggling to keep interest in the game. I hope to god that something worthwhile happens in the next couple of days, because this is ridiculous.


WHO CARES IF STINSON WAS SILENCED.
SCOTT- I STILL REMEMBER OUR "WHAT IF WE WERE MAFIA" CONVERSATIONS.
EVERYONE- Please try to decipher the good from the bad, because right now the vast majority of your time is spent reading absolute bullshit.

Vote: Sportsguy

After reading all of your posts, I truly don't care if the odds are against you being mafia two games in a row. Hopefully we lynch another mafia during the day...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/03/09 at 00:41:34

jabes stop spamming ok

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/03/09 at 00:52:31

Current Votes

7 Sportsguy (Howes, Kmacc, Superyoshi, Drag, Fababu, Darius, Jabes)
3 karterfreak (Brutus, Adam L, Honko)
2 Isthatagoodthing (Booth, Sully)
2 Honko (oneshotbilly, In Hiding)
2 Extol (Sportsguy, MVT)
1 Syzygy (Padzup)
1 sully (AlexPenev)

Day will end in 46 hours 10 minutes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/03/09 at 01:29:02

Sean/Brutus (the two i'm fairly confident are town)

I'm switching my vote to sportsguy as I do think he's sus and at least this will be a valuable vote, it doesn't look like anyone else apart from us sees honko as sus right now.

Booth and April are also looking more and more sus because they're not saying jack.

Extol has gone quiet since my accusations on day one.

I'm saying as much as I can before this day ends because i could get killed at night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 02:57:16

Well, it's sort of nice that I can disregard virtually a whole page because some people are idiots. Maybe a spam-fest is some kind of strategy, in which case...you're still idiots.

I haven't seen any reason to take my vote off Tyler. His two attempts at defence apart from 'I'm not mafia' have been to cast suspicion on Extol and MVT. Perhaps he's hoping we'll think he'd defend himself more thoroughly if he's (edit)not mafia because there doesn't seem to be any other strategy behind it. Other people who I'm thinking about right now:

Scott - playing the idiot card, mixing more humour into his posts and generally trying to declare that he's a completely useless town player.

Kmacc - seemed dubious about not focusing on the silencer theories, which came across more as an attempt to confuse town than anything else.

April - looking a little less suspicious to me at the moment, particularly as Scott has been getting more so. Still staying pretty quiet but did respond to my questions with quite a rational post, so my suspicion has diminished.

Tom - I don't think the mafia would kill him off tonight, particularly because he's the only declared townie power role and that seems like too obvious a move to me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/03/09 at 03:52:50

oops, forgot, as per my last post

unvote honko ::)(who is mafia)

And vote sportguy (who is also mafia)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 04:09:43

Tom, as no-one else seems to be around right now and I believe you are town for a few reasons, including no-one else claiming jailkeeper, I'd like to hear what you think of this:

Both Kmacc and Scott suggested piling some votes on Stinson to see what would happen. To me, this strikes me as a strategy that they would only suggest if they were mafia. If we consider the logic, if Stinson doesn't post after we put a lot of votes on him and we assume he's silenced, I would argue that most people are going to come to the conclusion that it's a mafia trick and lynch Stinson. If Stinson does eventually post after we put a lot of votes on him even though numerous people asked him to post to confirm he wasn't silenced yesterday, most people are going to come to the conclusion that he is mafia, pretending to be silenced. Furthermore, given that people were calling Stinson useless anyway and wouldn't see him as any great loss, it wouldn't be that hard to get another 3 or 4 votes on him to get the lynch, particularly because if I'm right here the mafia are just suggesting this idea to try and get people to jump on Stinson before they do. Finally, Scott even said that there doesn't seem to be another main suspect, even though Tyler had already received a number of votes and provided a terrible defence.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/03/09 at 04:11:43

Darius, you're on my safe list too.

I think its sus, you're right, they're probably both mafia, all the spam on the page before is likely to be mafia too.

Also - I dont think we should change the rules to allow anyone to edit posts even to add stuff. I would prefer they double post over doing that. Could seriously change the tone of a post.  >:(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 04:22:21

The spam is either mafia or more people who don't care about the game, which is what we don't need right now. I'm still favouring lynching Sportsguy today but if I come on tomorrow morning and see a load more spam then I think we should get rid of one of these players who clearly don't want to play and are either mafia trying to confuse us or just wasting our time by making us read a lot of unnecessary posts.

For Scott, and anyone else who comes on and wants a good example of what I'm seeing as increasingly suspicious behaviour, here's a few lines that particularly bothered me:


704A6D51584D787E56565D6D5150575E390 wrote:
As far as silencing goes, why not test it out?  Throw 7 or 8 votes on Stinson here and as the number gets closer to 10 we'll see if he spills or not.  As no one else seems to have a really strong suspect, this might not hurt too bad.  Since it's still early in Day 2 we'll have plenty of time to set things straight afterwards.

What do you guys think about that?  I'll check in when I wake up in like 6-7 hours and if people agree with this I'll jump in, if not, so be it.

Just realized that bit above might sound like I'm trying to deflect the microscopes off of me and onto someone else, but there's no reason for you to be looking at me anyway.


This comes across to me as trying to suggest an idea without pushing it too hard, with several suspect phrases: 'we'll have plenty of time to set things straight afterwards'; 'if people agree with this I'll jump in, if not, so be it'; and 'there's no reason for you to be looking at me anyway'. There are plenty of reasons to be looking at Scott and 'so be it' was also a phrase April used on Day 1 which didn't sit right with me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 04:24:12

And yeah, I agree with the editing. I did change one earlier but I did it straight away and used strikethrough to indicate what I'd modified. You can't have people adding to posts a day or two later, that's ridiculous. I'm not sure if they were even serious about it, most of that page was just nonsense anyway.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/03/09 at 05:28:38

I just woke up and read through the last couple pages a few times to see what I could pick up.

IMO, lynching Stinson at this point is completely useless, because we didn't really lose anything if Stinson were silenced. I think it's odd that Scott keeps wanting to lynch Stinson and keeps saying we have no other suspects.

I also think this is really odd:


6A50774B425762644C4C47774B4A4D44230 wrote:
I will convince you I am not mafia by telling you the following story.

Hello Adam my name is Scott.  I am here to play this game because I am willing to have fun and enjoy it.  The game started with Lenny who was a cool guy willing to sell his soul to the devil to make a game, and now he sent out some roles one night.  I opened my PM, all excited, and all I see is this: You are town you mother fucker, get the fuck out of here and post some mafia bullshit.  Then I took that shit and I posted again and again, doing as Lenny said.  It was all cool until Flo died because too many ppl jizzed at the sight of her.  Then Clark died too, and Etch because he was a badass.  So basically I am town, you see.  That's why.  You get it?


and then


013B1C20293C090F27272C1C2021262F480 wrote:
By the way, the above paragraph was written from the perspective of if I was actually mafia LOL :p

But truly I am town.


WAT?

The first post was fine, but then he writes that second post in ten minutes later. After saying that he is town, that ends the post. No farther further explanation; no story from the "town" view. This makes me considerably more suspicious of Scott at this point; that and his wanting a bandwagon on Stinson.

At this time, I'm voting Scott, unless I have a good reason to change my vote later.

vote: Scott

Edited to change the spelling of a word (you'll see it), because I can't spell today.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 05:40:59

I am still sick, and I am feeling even sicker every time I read Scott's posts.

If he is town, he is contributing zero.
If he is mafia than good riddance.

Unvote
Vote Scott



I have not forgot about Extol at all though.  His general ignorance towards all accusations is getting real annoying too.  I just can't stand it when Scott keeps trying to misdirect everyone and lead us on bs witch hunts.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 05:43:28

Scott, I think I provided a perfectly rational, detailed explanation of why I suspect you and Kmacc. Last night you were praising me for my play and saying it was a shame the Americans couldn't do the same. Now I'm a 'fuckhead' for using my same logical play style to question your posts? That makes me even more suspicious of you.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 05:50:30

Scott, if you want us to trust you then you need to calm down and stop getting angry at everything people say about you. If you're a town player then you need to avoid losing your head and flying into a rage. Abusing people and hurling insults around won't get you anywhere and you're not going to be able to see things clearly either.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 05:53:49


Quote:
Alex has suggested like 10 different plays and you haven't called him out for it

My plays are all pretty awesome, though. Except it seems that the mafia hasn't been playing super duper well if they're already two people down, so I get the feeling that some people (the spammers) are in a relaxed mood, taking it easy, because they think it's already in the bag.


Do not edit your posts unless it's only ~1-2 minutes after your posted. If you wait longer, it's pretty obvious to tell because both timestamps are logged.


Edit:
vote Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 05:54:08

I just wish you would be a bit more stable with your posting habits Scott.  

Day 1 you played the "I am going to be the analytic student of the game" card.  You acted intelligent, posted necessary responses and seemed to at least back up your ideas firmly.

I have noticed a SIGNIFICANT change in your posting style since Day 2 has started.  I don't know what to make of it.  Your posts are now reckless, angry, and full of insults.  All the while throwing out all these subtle things about what we should do next.  Why can't you just hold a few people firmly that you think are mafia and stick with them?  Why do you have to bring me and Stinson into the equation?  You also have been on April's case for a long time.  I generally don't think she is mafia at all.  

If I had to guess right now I would say you are a needledick.  Your attitude is generally indicating that you don't really care that much.  You want to stay involved in the game as if you were some kind of special role yet you probably are not.  Therefore you just post a lot, mostly useless junk, and try to get the town thinking in many obscure ways.  At this point of the game that is not really necessary at all.  It seems like you almost want to be lynched.  It is like you are saying "come on lynch me"  in the back of your head.  Take a pill, and chill the fuck out.  If you are town and trying to be helpful, we really don't need such reckless posting.  I would be happy to unvote you and save my vote for a mafia, instead.  But as of right now your posts are confusing the town more than any mafia could.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 05:59:55

I agree with MVT, you need to be much more stable, Scott. Going from attempting to be the rational townie to admitting you don't know what you're doing, then joining the spam fest, then turning to anger and insults is just making you look bad. If you don't want people to accuse you of being mafia then you're playing the wrong game. The only reason I haven't put my vote on you yet is because Sportsguy's defence was so weak and I've still heard nothing to tell me he's not mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 06:11:28

Vote update:

8 Sportsguy (Howes, Kmacc, Superyoshi, Drag, Fababu, Darius, Jabes, In Hiding)
5 Isthatagoodthing (Booth, Sully, Detective Spril, MVT, AlexPenev)
3 karterfreak (Brutus, Adam L, Honko)
1 Honko (oneshotbilly)
1 Extol (Sportsguy)
1 Syzygy (Padzup)

Not voting: Extol, IsThatAGoodThing, Syzygy, Sword, karterfreak, nstinson

With 25 players remaining, it takes 13 votes to lynch.

Day 2 will end in 40 hours and 49 minutes.

Edit: Realised Booth was on the not voting list instead of Stinson - I missed his name because it just said Booth instead of Kevin Booth.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/03/09 at 06:26:11

Holy fucking crap, this thread is growing quickly as hell, it tooks me one full hour to read everything carefully >:(

I laughed my fucking ass off at page 28, but I think this should not happen anymore, this is BAD for the town.
And Scott, stop spamming for fuck sake. I still remember your very first post when you said you would be more quiet, but this has been during only for Day 1.
All you are doing is confusing everyone here, except the mafia. Darius is 100% right about this (he is the best poster here so far, with Alex). I still doubt you could be mafia, but actually you may be EVEN MORE dangerous than them.
I stick my vote for now on Sportsguy though, I think it's the best lynch for this day, and this will let you one chance to do better posting, but i'm a bit pissed of now to bullshit and aggressive posts which brings anything...
Your idea about Stinson may not be that bad, but i think it's better to forgot him for now... we have absolutely no clues of which team he is with...

And i agree we shouldn't be allowed to edit at all, even for correcting typos mistakes, for the safe of the game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/03/09 at 06:35:22

Alex just slipped up in his post. I can't put my finger on it but he's now mafia too.

So, mafia list before i'm voted off looks quite weird, my guess is its something like this

Honko
Extol
Sportsguy
Alex
April
Kmacc

Something like that...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/03/09 at 06:44:29

Tom, I'm thinking you only have a max of 2 right.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 06:45:24


03391E222B3E0B0D25252E1E2223242D4A0 wrote:
Just so you know I'm quite displeased.


JUST SO YOU KNOW

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/03/09 at 07:30:45

Scott is either on his period or he's mafia.  Either way he's acting like a girl.  I want to save my vote for him until tomorrow.

Edit: Well I don't want to, but we're already close on sportsguy, and my suspicions of him haven't changed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/03/09 at 07:52:31

Just so you know, Tom isn't mafia but if for some strange reason he was I'd never speak to him again and I'd have to gat every white brare in tooting.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/03/09 at 07:57:47

Dragon, your suspicions are valid, but they're not correct.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/03/09 at 08:23:19

Sean, no one here thinks i am, please spend more time pointing out your suspicions unless you're voted off!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 08:25:05

So like I this morning when I was thinking about mafia I thought "Whoa!  If I was mafia I'd ignore all the spamtards and try to get someone else lynched!"  Because I mean, it makes sense right?  Why take out the kids who are making your job easier?

So from there I was like "Well who ignored it and is trying to push a lynch on someone else?"

Turns out it's everyone.  Everyone is mafia.

Except Scott, who is quite displeased.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/03/09 at 08:33:56

Damn, why do i have four pages of spam to sift through every time i log on?...

ok i read through everything, it seems the general focus has shifted to scott atm, although a lot of votes are still on Tyler.
Scott is confusing, to say the least. Whether hes joking or not, theres something a little fishy about him, and hes starting to go crazy like last game, i dont know if that will hurt usor not. As of now, im undecided if hes mafia or not, ill keep trying to pick up things in his posts.

as for tyler, he still seems the most suspicious, but something tells me hes town, because as someone said earlier, he seems like he really doesnt care if he gets lynched or not, and hes not trying to defend himself very well. Either hes town and doesnt care about the game or he is mafia and he really doesnt care about the game. Either way it wouldnt be a big loss, but im not going to vote for him because if he is town, because it would still be a loss for him to get lynched.

a few people i think have some weird post styles and/or seem a little fishy are honko, april, and kmacc. I would like to here some more thoughts/ posts with substance from them.

brutus and adam are just spamming, so im ignoring them.

the safe ones to me are tom, darius, and oneshot. if you think they are suspicious, then i think you are suspicious.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/03/09 at 08:37:08

Thats a fucking interesting post by extol, can't work out right this second if that makes him 100% mafia or 100% town - its a all or nothing post from him though.

I'll re-read it later tonight when i'm drunk and my instinct will confirm for all of you.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/03/09 at 08:51:47

Alright, so I come back from school and read through the spam and the current happenings.

Current thoughts on the situation;

Scott - Dude, calm down. Just calm, the fuck, down. No need to pounce on anyone who mentions your name as claiming you to be mafia. Your whole jokey attitude of the game is confusing, to me. Its like, if you are town, you aren't really that bothered, you just want to do whats best for you instead of helping the team. If you are mafia, you are just being strange and trying to throw people off. If you are a town player, you aren't being much help. If you are mafia, then I can understand.

SportsGuy - Still really suspicious of this guy. I can't get his poor defense statement out of my mind, it just seems so ridiculous. Townies are assuming "Oh he said that he doesn't care if we vote for him so he must be a townie who doesn't care about the game". I'm having a feeling this was a method of trying to make it look this way, when actually he could be mafia and is trying to make himself look innocent. I mean, If he was saying "OH NO I'M NOT MAFIA DON'T LYNCH ME I HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE" then yeah, thats obvious mafia style. But don't be closed minded. This could just be a new tactic he is using to confuse us all. "If I pretend I ain't bothered maybe they will back off and not vote for me" attitude, I sense. Keep this in mind.

Both the above are suspicious to me, both of the above aren't contributing anything useful to the town, both of them aren't playing the game as well as they could be, which sucks. I think we should lynch one of these players today. Scott is only confusing the town with his jokey and sarcastic style, SportsGuy is just not helping.

People suggesting to vote for Brutus or Adam_L based of the spam are silly. Whats the point wasting a lynch? Chances are they are town, just piss arsing about. We should target and get rid of the suspicious players who aren't helping.

Side note to Scott, learn to paragraph more. Its hard as hell to read your posts when its a load of cluttered stuff crammed into 15-20 lines.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/03/09 at 09:21:43

To my critics:

I never said i didn't care about the game.  I said i don't care if you vote for me because i don't post enough, which is what Howes did somewhere back on page 22.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 09:43:23

Calling out someone who I think has posted only once in Day 2: Tim. You posted a fair bit on Day 1. However, on Day 2 Padzup has voted for you and mafia allegations have been aimed in your direction, yet we have nothing from you apart from your post to indicate you weren't silenced. Care to give us some indication you're not a mafia lurker trying to stay under the radar?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/03/09 at 09:51:39

Because Darius, I am not going to just post for the hell of it.  If I can't provide anything constructive then I might as well not post, rather than saying something whih may cause people to wrongly suspect me.  I haven't been following the thread very closely, just scanning it really, which is simply down to laziness. .  

Thing is, if you look at how I behaved last game, I was quick to jump on people who accused me because I was Mario, so for the sake of the town I HAD to stay alive.  This game I am a needledick, which is not to say I don't care anymore, but if I'm lynched it isn't as big a loss as our power players, whom we must keep in order to win.

Now if I say I think Scott/Tyler is suspicious, people will probably say "ZOMG BANDWAGONING".  I can still have opinions; just because someone else has posted the same thing does not mean their reasons for thinking one thing don't apply to me.

I'll give the last 10 pages a thorough read soon and see what I think.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 09:59:40

Extol why won't you defend yourself AT ALL!???

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 10:27:33

Good to hear something from you, Tim. Given that there are only 5 mafia left in this game, we have far too many town players not posting and as far as I'm concerned, that's playing into the mafia's hands. I will be expecting a vote or at least some solid thoughts on developments once you've read everything for that same reason.

Extol, I have to agree with MVT on this one. You've allied yourself with a 'safe' group of Tom, myself and oneshot even though both myself and Tom have suspected you. You were also one of the others to bring up the 'silencer conundrum' which I see as a potential mafia misdirection strategy. There's also the fact that Clark said you were definitely mafia early on Day 1 without voting for you, much like he did with Flo.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 10:37:02

Hey Tom.  I'm curious why you won't explain why I'm on your suspect list.  It's impossible for people to defend themselves when you don't give reasons, and look how that turned out the last two games: lots of bad lynches.  Until you start backing up your votes with more than just "I have a bad feeling," you're pretty much a joke and I'm going to ignore everything you say.

And to everyone who thinks you can figure people out 100% from your gut.  You're stupid, really.  If you're town, you will never be more than like 75% sure on anyone.  There's always room for doubt.  The only time you can be 100% sure about anything is when you're mafia.  It's ridiculous how some of you are so cocky that you think after playing this game twice you are suddenly part-psychic and can figure out someone's alignment with zero doubt from skimming a couple posts.  This arrogant bullshit makes me want to stop playing, since half of you seem to prefer random gut feelings over actually reading people's posts who try to give real analysis.

Sorry about page 28, I was ridiculously bored and decided to get the lamest 3000th post of all time.  Won't happen again, unless this game gets so big that I have a chance to reach 4000 as well.  I'm sure people will read into that somehow as I'm mafia.  Sorry, but you're wrong.

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/03/09 at 10:40:33

@ Darius- technically, i havent allied myself with you and tom and oneshot, i just made it clear that from what ive seen, you three are the most likely to be townies. The silencer thing was just what i had on my mind at the time, but i said in the end that we should not be focused on that, cause stinson, silenced or not, wouldnt be much help either way. i apologize for making that seem like i was dragging it out a bit, its just ive been trying to contribute Something, and thats really all i had that not everyone else had thought of already. I realize im not of much use to the town at this point, since im just a needledick, but id like to be.

as for the clark thing, i was actually going through all the posts earlier, and i saw that and it surprised me, since both flo and himself were mafia. he also said something like that about superyoshi iirc. I honestly dont know what this means, but i can honestly say im not mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/03/09 at 11:06:54

because at that time i honestly thought you looked more suspicious than him. the language barrier was confusing, and i saw that as taking off a bit of the suspicion. i also thought, why would he be posting this way if he was trying to hide his mafia role. Cause as you saw, he used all kinds of smileys and stuff in his posts, so while some people saw that as a dead giveaway, i thought differently. but i see that it was me that was wrong, and were better off now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by karterfreak on 03/03/09 at 11:45:40

I'd just like to state my opinion here that I'm fairly certain scott isnt mafia. Scott has a tendancy to go with the flow of IRC guys (brutus, honko, adam l) when they decide to spam a topic (See: Board Problems - Kart Radio). He only started posting like that when Honko did, and I know honko was aiming for 3000 posts (in which right after he got he stopped spamming). This leads me to believe that Scott, Honko, and Adam L are town (yes, even though they voted for me) . Brutus like usual is a gray spot and I'm not sure whether he's town or mafia, but with the way he plays It sorta makes it hard for the town to tell anything.

I'm gonna make a bold statement here. For anyone who truly trusts me right now, take your vote off of scott. If you don't, I'll have high suspiscion that you're mafia.

edit: Forgot about Adam.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Fababu on 03/03/09 at 12:15:08


1C37302C315E0 wrote:
Hey Tom.  I'm curious why you won't explain why I'm on your suspect list.  It's impossible for people to defend themselves when you don't give reasons, and look how that turned out the last two games: lots of bad lynches.  Until you start backing up your votes with more than just "I have a bad feeling," you're pretty much a joke and I'm going to ignore everything you say.

And to everyone who thinks you can figure people out 100% from your gut.  You're stupid, really.  If you're town, you will never be more than like 75% sure on anyone.  There's always room for doubt.  The only time you can be 100% sure about anything is when you're mafia.  It's ridiculous how some of you are so cocky that you think after playing this game twice you are suddenly part-psychic and can figure out someone's alignment with zero doubt from skimming a couple posts.  This arrogant bullshit makes me want to stop playing, since half of you seem to prefer random gut feelings over actually reading people's posts who try to give real analysis.

Sorry about page 28, I was ridiculously bored and decided to get the lamest 3000th post of all time.  Won't happen again, unless this game gets so big that I have a chance to reach 4000 as well.  I'm sure people will read into that somehow as I'm mafia.  Sorry, but you're wrong.

Unvote


Nope, at least no in my opinion. I agree with you when you say that votes may be fundament in the posts that you read, but this game also has a important part of intuition cause if not the job of finding mafia could become impossible.
Your argument is valid for me, and after it I'm 75% ( ;)) sure that you aren't mafia. The same happens with Darius and Scott. I don't know if Darius has played before, but his analysis about people make a lot of sense. Scott posted some messages where he was angry and he insulted some people, but It's because he's trying to find mafia really hard. BTW don't worry, this is just a fucking game; if we lost, bad luck, but we should try to be calmed during this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/03/09 at 12:23:25

Extol: Your reasoning over Flo makes sense to me because I thought the same thing. 'Allied' was perhaps the wrong word, I probably should have said associated. Clark threw a number of random accusations around so I'm not going to read too much into him naming you right now. Even if you feel like you're not being much use, posting now and again to say who you favour for lynching or who looks suspicious is still more useful to town than being quiet, so keep it up.

Honko: I'm with you on this 'gut feeling' thing. When people go on hunches it can lead to stupid lynches and a lot of confusion and misdirection for town. If there's a logical basis behind it then it's not just a gut feeling; if there isn't then it's basically a guess.

Karterfreak: For me, the IRC connection isn't enough to dismiss Scott's suspicious activity. The spam was only a small part of it and Scott has been all over the place with his posts. It's not unlike the Flo situation: people have to try and work out whether it's just Scott being a bad, very confusing town player or a nervous mafia player. My vote isn't on Scott anyway so I couldn't take it off if I wanted to but I don't think there's much basis in suspecting Scott voters as mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 12:25:17

(Members viewing this topic (5): Darius (replying), shadow, Jabes, Fababu, Padzup.)

Matt, I've got to admit that I've never liked the whole "if you don't take your vote off of _____ I'll think you're mafia" mentality, because it seems like a mafia tactic to get people to sway their votes to someone else other than their mafia member. I'm not saying that this is necessarily the case right now, but that's just what it seems like to me.

I'm still sticking with my SportsGuy vote, because he seems to act an awful lot like Flo did when he had just as many votes against him, language barrier or not.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by karterfreak on 03/03/09 at 12:50:01

Right now, in all honesty, I really don't believe scott is mafia though Joe. Enough to say that if he is mafia, you can lynch me regardless of what I say.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 13:15:18

I'm pretty sure Sportsguy is mafia, let's lynch him as fast as possible.

unvote
vote: Sportsguy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/03/09 at 14:02:01

After thinking it over, I've reached my decision.

Vote :
SportsGuy


He is just far too fishy to me. He doesn't post much that is benefitial for the town, and his posts in this topic all seem very suspicious. He claims he doesn't care if people vote for him, so I won't. Him bringing percentage chances and maths to try and say he isn't mafia is just really strange. I'm gonna leave my vote on this guy unless someone else slips up and deserves attention. But SportsGuy is a chance I'm willing to take ... If he is town, he wasn't doing too much posting to help the team, if he is mafia, we get lucky again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 14:09:04

Darius never replied when I posted that he was in the process of replying. Useful information, or just a coincidence?

Also, what's the vote count at now? I have this feeling that Tyler may not be mafia, but that's probably because he's so close to getting lynched anyway...

I guess we'll just see what happens...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 14:11:50

I'd tag along and vote Sportsguy too but only three more votes are needed for a lynch and the Day should at least go for a few more hours. I think it's odd that everyone is so eager to lynch somebody now, it's even worse than Flo.

I think town is getting a bit cocky after two mafia kills so early in the game. Not that I'm agreeing with Honko in other regards but what he says about knowing who is mafia based on a hunch is correct. We can't just go and lynch someone because they seem fishy. It's not that I'm saying we shouldn't lynch him, but we've suddenly let off all pressure on MVT, Scott, Extol, Tom and Matt. What the hell?

Also Matt, forget Scott. I'd like to take you up on that offer right now. I'll call your bluff.

unvote

Vote: karterfreak

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/03/09 at 14:17:28

I haven't lied in any of the mafia games we have played.  Last game i said i had a role, and i did, i was bowser.  This game there is nothing special about me.  I have no role.  I'M NOT MAFIA.  Believe me or not.  Whatever i say isn't going to change anyone's opinion about me.  Since i'm about to be lynched, i will post the 4 people i think are mafia.

Extol
Darius
April
Kmac

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 14:45:32

...shouldn't be something to ponder about longer than it already has...don't dwell any longer on this situation...I will stop [confusing] the town.

I don't like that. Why shouldn't we analyze what you've said so far? If you had nothing to hide you probably wouldn't care if you got emotional since you wouldn't be stating anything suspicious anyway.

You aren't really helping your case much but we'll see how this turns out I suppose.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 14:53:43

www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi

Look what I made all by myself with no help from shadow at all.

Thanks shadow you're the best.

(It tells how many posts have been made by everyone in this topic, and is always up-to-date automatically.)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/03/09 at 14:59:35

Lol @ 4 posts by stinson.

Anyway, nice graph Honko.  I'm sure we'll find some use of it to not only see how many posts someone has, but also when they do.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/03/09 at 15:02:59

Oh ok.  I just assumed that when Robin said he did it all by himself that he did  :P.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/03/09 at 15:29:02

unvote

Vote Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 15:32:40

Brutus's lack of apparent interest is easily explained by being a needledick, and I would know because I'm suffering the same fate.  Shit's boring when I don't get to go out and fuck shit up at night.

edit - I'm lying anyway, I'm mafia, I figured I would tell you guys considering I'm leaving to go to Florida on sunday.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/03/09 at 15:33:17

why am i not thinking about stinson? because he's too quiet, i dont know him and because he's not revealing himself as mafia or town.

I want to lynch the obvious, sportsguy is now obvious, honko is now obvious (when i say "gut" feeling what I mean is a deep level of psychosis which picks up on things without explanation. I had a good game last game? And errr.. was I the first to point the finger at flo? errrr yes.. and extol? yes (who is mafia you wait and see).

honko, the more I explain myself the more the balance of power shifts away from me so i'll hush now.

days gonna close soon - please look back to my previous posts for my suspicions.

April is mafia - if you were a woman and called someone a fat bitch then you would respond to that. You wouldn't if you were more focussed on making sure people thought you weren't mafia when you are.

Alex is a headfuck. His posts have a natural neutrality which unnerves me. Serial killer style. Dexter Penev.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/03/09 at 15:38:10

Scott just loves breakin tha rulez

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/03/09 at 15:38:52

Modkill

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 15:42:30

If it didn't take so much effort I'd make a seizure gif for Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 15:45:15


55494E4C4052465910210 wrote:
I want to lynch the obvious, sportsguy is now obvious, honko is now obvious (when i say "gut" feeling what I mean is a deep level of psychosis which picks up on things without explanation. I had a good game last game? And errr.. was I the first to point the finger at flo? errrr yes.. and extol? yes (who is mafia you wait and see).

honko, the more I explain myself the more the balance of power shifts away from me so i'll hush now.

I didn't really want to say this at first because it's harsh, but you really don't seem to get it.  You played terrible during the day last game, and the game before it as well.  You made the right choices at night most of the time (although you also tried to kill townies and luckily for you got blocked), but everything you said during the day was garbage.  I was host, I knew the truth the whole game, and every time I saw your posts I was amazed that you were making good night kills because you clearly didn't have a clue what was really going on.

Saying "I won't explain myself because it shifts power away from me" just proves that you don't have any good explanation.  If you really had any reason for suspecting me besides retaliation for me calling out your actions, you'd be able to explain it.  If your explanations cause you to lose power, that means your explanations suck.

Your votes and arguments are a joke until you can back them up with more than your "deep psychosis" drunk gut.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 15:46:44

Scott you would never ignore a plate of food in front of your face you fat midwestern fuck

try to lynch me, see what happens during night 2.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/03/09 at 15:48:00

Are you saying he will be killed or your cockbite? or something else.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 15:50:36

Dude it's only been like a day and a half since we were talking about who to kill.  Why do you keep forgetting that the Hooker is mafia?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/03/09 at 15:52:34

I doubt Adam is mafia and is only trying to get you worked up.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/03/09 at 15:53:54

Adam is obviously threatening to kill Scott. If he was the cockbite, we would be seeing what happened during the next day, when we vote by PM. Come to think of it, that might not be so bad, having quiet in this topic.  ;D.


Sportsguy obviously isn't the cockbite.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/03/09 at 16:24:52

Lol, what the fuck is going here with Adam ?
I thought it was a joke at the beginning but now I'm starting getting very confused... what's the point of cleaming being a mafia, apart with the goal to fuck up us, or to leave the game ?

And btw, seeing how Tom as played during the same, I think his statements are 90% instinct and 10% reasoning.
You have hardly given a decent explanation about why you have those suspects. Your opinion about Honko seems very biased, so far he didn't show clearly any thing which could lead to us think that he is mafia (except maybe at the page 28, although it's more likely totally apart of the game) and even you did ignored some of his posts at the beginning.
I agree there is part of intuition obviously, but you can't be always 100% right, and it's much interested to find out mafia us by reasoning and strats [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 16:26:10

I think you guys need to lay off sportsguy a little bit.  Is he suspicious?  Yes.  But you guys are like 1-2 votes away from lynching him right now.  At the very least hold off. :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/03/09 at 16:33:26

^I was about to hold my vote off before going sleeping. I have absolutely no idea what are the votes counts for now, just know something like Sportsguy and Scott are leading on.
Indeed, I may have to consider this surprising mafia claim, but imo it is very very weird. Maybe Adam is just bored by the game :-/

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 16:45:54

MVT nobody is going to listen to you unfortunately, most people here don't take you seriously or they think you're mafia.

Matt has been trying to get votes off Scott for no reason but hasn't said anything about Tyler. Coincidentally votes are moving straight from Scott to Tyler. Nobody seems to be opposing votes for Tyler at all. Why? This means mafia supports it too, doesn't it?

At the very least not nearly enough people have voted to reflect the overall opinion of the group. We need more info out of everyone today. I don't think we should go for another 24 hours but right now we need more time even if the final vote is the same.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/03/09 at 16:50:47

I noticed that now the post counts in the link posted are separated by days (Day 1, Day 2... etc ) Nice add !
This link will help us more to find out quiet guys.
I thought I had posted more than that tbh, even Sportsguy beat me ;D
We shouldn't base each of our lynchs only on this though, but it could be use as an argument (for quiet guys only probably...)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/03/09 at 16:51:05

Unvote

Didn't realise he was that close to death. I'm going to bed now, and I don't want anything ridiculous to happen while I'm sleeping. SportsGuy is starting to show that he doesn't understand the roles fully, which doesn't seem mafia like. Ever since we pinned votes on him, he's started to talk, so I guess we can give him a bit more space to make more explanations and a reasonable defence.

I know I've only made 10 posts, but most of them are made of paragraphs of my thoughts and explanations, instead of Brutus' one liners, being a vote and no reason. Don't always compare by the amount of posts made ... but by how much content they contain.

And nstinson having 4 posts is just totally unacceptable, considering they all lack content (I would quote them just to prove my point, but I don't feel I need to) . He was all for lynching the quiet people last game, and all of a sudden he is becoming hush in this game. Very strange, not to mention suspicious. Keep an eye out for him, I shall be doing.

Untill tomorrow, goodnight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/03/09 at 17:24:13


4574716F6065150 wrote:
Matt has been trying to get votes off Scott for no reason but hasn't said anything about Tyler. Coincidentally votes are moving straight from Scott to Tyler. Nobody seems to be opposing votes for Tyler at all. Why? This means mafia supports it too, doesn't it?


Interesting. Matt was the first person for which I voted on day 2 because of how he defended Flo and his weird attitude at the end of day 1, but then Sportsguy and Scott catched the attention and Matt didn't post for a while so I forgot him...
I would need to find the post(s) where he said to get votes off Scott, but i'll check that tomorrow, I need to go to bed...
Also he has barely posted this day, maybe he hasn't noticed the stuff about Tyler, but again I would need to go read his posts.

As for me, I never voted for Scott this day, I've never been totally convinced he would be mafia, even when he went a bit crazy earlier, and Sportsguy appears with his attitude as the most obvious guy to point out at that point (I've already said that before I think, and almost everyone probably agrees with my mind...). There is still the possibility that he is just a townie which just suck at the game, anyway he won't miss to anyone in this case if he got lynched today, except if he had a power role, which I hardly doubt.

@Sword : about Stinson, don't forget to consider he could have been possibly silenced, we will know that at day 3. But anyway in any case I doubt his post count would have been higher than 10 at the end of Day 2...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/03/09 at 17:28:14

man it took forever for me to read all that.  Also I didn't have time to come home for lunch to catch up and make some comments.  I think someone said I didn't vote for Scott so I'll repeat the vote just in case someone takes it off

REVOTE: Scott

I really don't want to jump on the sports guy bandwagon.  Yes we have done good by getting 2 shots to 1 on mafia, but ya like the one poster said, I don't want to get very cocky.  Flo just was a very bad player, so an easy target, but something tells me that sportsguy is not mafia, but I don't know what really.  Scott... who knows... but he suspects me, and since obviously I'm going to look at myself as not deserving that whether it's deserved or not in reality, I'm definitely not changing my vote, without a better suspect piling up votes.

I am willing to start a honko bandwagon vote, I am suspecting him, and I really feel either Penev or Tommy boy have a role but I'm not sure what.  It's either power roles are mafia roles.  Penev did suspect me early, but that is really just cause I was an early poster and voter.  

Karterfreak i will declare I really don't believe is mafia.  He seems to be playing similar to when he had a power role the last game on the townie side, but I suspect he has a lighter role this time, but not quite a normal townie.

I think it's really too early for me to go totally down the line, cause there are so many people in, and yes that spamming stuff was annoying me too from those 3 people, but since I voted for Honk on day 1 before smartly choosing an obvious mafia member halfway in the bandwagon after it was clear and evidence was overwealming without any real defense I changed my vote, but a honk vote from me will probably occur at least one more time.

I'll try to keep up better tonight if I don't fall asleep early again.  Get dat Scotty Boy!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 17:54:38

Suspects

Extol
IsThatAGoodThing
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
SuperYoshi1
Padzup
SportsGuy
Fababu

These guys are the only people I would consider voting for for the rest of the game unless someone really slips up or gives away there role entirely.  These are the only people that I see as possible mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 17:55:07

I personally don't feel Scott is suspicious. Yes, he is very annoying most of the time. But with those posting stats, you can see his posting activity is exactly the same as last game. He makes some posts during the beginning of the days with useless junk that's always wrong, then towards the end of the days he posts three times as much going completely nuts.

And to anyone who thinks Tyler isn't as suspicious as he used to be is wrong. Even though he is posting more, he still has no defense. He has added a bit of substance to his posts, but still needs to try harder to take suspicions off himself.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/03/09 at 18:01:40

Ok kmacc, How about comparing my posting from the last game to this game like you did with scott.  I was mafia last game and i didn't post very often.  This game i have posted in two days as much as i posted the entire last game. (i didn't look back, but i assume so)  This is also a weak defense imo, but its all i got.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 18:04:14

I believe sportsguy!  I don't think he is mafia!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 18:07:39

I admit that your posting has changed since last game, but that doesn't mean anything. You could be doing that purposely to look different. With Scott, that is basically his "natural" posting style. At least it's better than your other defenses though.

I'm starting to look elsewhere as well, but I still have my eye on you.

And to some who said I looked suspicious for my crazy theories. I apologize, I was over analyzing the silencing situation. My intentions were not to confuse, but to bring light to the possibilities. I can see now how my actions were stupid. I'll try not to throw in anymore crazy stuff, I'll try and base all of my thoughts off posts of others and such.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 18:10:08


6C5D54546C59545D380 wrote:
Suspects

SportsGuy

?!?!?

Also MVT would you like to explain why you think all those people are mafia?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 18:13:38

I know they all can't be mafia.  That is basically a list of everyone that I have doubts about though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 18:15:03

If you don't mind me asking, what is your doubt about me? I'd like to hear it!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 18:16:15

I doubt you because you didn't consider voting for flo.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 18:17:47


62535A5A62575A53360 wrote:
Suspects

Extol
IsThatAGoodThing
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
SuperYoshi1
Padzup
SportsGuy
Fababu

These guys are the only people I would consider voting for for the rest of the game unless someone really slips up or gives away there role entirely.  These are the only people that I see as possible mafia.

LOL.  The other 16 players are all guaranteed innocent for the rest of the game?  Your drunken gut skills must be even greater than Tom's if you can judge people like Brutus, Stinson, and Adam 100% innocent off of their posts.  I'll assume you just meant these are your top suspects.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 1]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 18:18:58


3E38343636550 wrote:
Spazzup, give me an actual valid reason why you think I'm dominatrix.

Anyway, hopefully Flo is mafia now that he's being lynched. Back to psych outlining...



Then you covered your ass with this post after not voting flo.

Why in the fuck did you vote for Brutus?  He is probably the most obvious town in the game, and has done nothing suspicious.  Spreading out mafia votes?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 18:25:46

I'm pretty sure I stated that I voted Brutus because he is useless. And I admit I didn't vote for Flo because I didn't think he was mafia. Bad analysis by me. Sorry we aren't all as good as you MVT.

I could have still voted Flo, but as it was late, people would say I was bandwagoning. It was a useless cause for me at that point, so I did nothing. Lose lose situation. I feel I may be a bit conservative sometimes with my voting, and maybe I should possibly attack players more than I do.

And as for the padzup thing, it just bothered me to see him say that cause he is being stupid for having a grudge on me. Although I admit I feel strongly about what padzup has to say come to think about it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 18:26:20

MVT seems to be picking mostly people who didn't vote for Flo.
He's forgetting that some of those people voted for Flo and then changed their vote near the end. Why would they change their vote? Well, you'll have to think about that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 18:27:11

Kmacc, it was a joke statement. I'd been throwing it around IRC for days before the game even started :)

My personal text is something Etch said a few days ago btw.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/03/09 at 19:32:40

unvote

This is pointless to me. We are getting nowhere, and I don't feel like going through every post to look at everything. We're probably going to end up lynching a townie. I see no point in voting for people with no support. I might read over this tomorrow, but until then, I'll save my vote for when it actually means something.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 19:53:26

robin is a girl's name so he is clearly mafia ::)

While I agree we're getting nowhere, Howes, saying you can't be bothered to read everyone's posts sort of irks me :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 19:58:25

I think what's going to happen today is that one of Sportsguy/IsThatAGoodThing/karterfreak is going to get lynched, and the vigilantes will kill one of the remaining duo to save us all the trouble of going through this same crap on Day 3.


I dunno what will happen during the night, but hopefully the mafia makes a good play and makes the town feel in danger again. Because town is taking it easy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 20:05:09

We need a vote count and a deadline check pretty badly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/03/09 at 20:05:16

Padsup, I'm sorry if I confused you. I meant that I will read the posts, but I won't necessarily analyze them until tomorrow at the earliest. Mostly I don't want to overanalyze or give myself a headache from lack of sleep. Town is just acting stupid in many ways today, and it is frustrating me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 20:26:59

I agree that most of the people here have been frustrating today. Mafia are going to dominate unless something changes.

Booth, IMO Matt is playing in a completely different style than he was last game. Even if it's just from being jaded from last game's lynches it's still alarming and most people seem to defend him for no good reason and/or ignore any arguments made against him. It's as if nobody is taking most people seriously. As a result a select couple of people are getting bandwagonned right off the bat and there's little to no original thought. Mafia is likely playing everyone right now, especially since town has been lulled into the false security that mafia is playing poorly this round because they've lost two members so far.

Disappointing. Meanwhile, even though some people spammed votes for Matt, I still encourage people to start considering whether he should get some more votes. He has really made a lot of odd excuses for himself and seems really concerned that he'll be labeled as mafia. If you see this as a bandwagon attempt then by all means vote for someone else. But at the very least actually think about what has been posted before saying 'i dont like tyler hes fishy lets lynch him and end the day early!'

It seems like the only people who are actually trying to contribute here are being ignored completely :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 20:27:08

Lemme be the first to say that it is extraordinarily easy to get frustrated in this game, seeing as there are a shit ton of players and it takes forever to end days. It has been a confusing day thus far and i apologize for not being able to post as often as id like to. Reading through all of the posts you miss while sleeping or working is absolute hell, and the amount of spam is irritating.

Im posting while im at work right now, and i spent a good majority of the day reading these posts, and i  honestly dont know what to think at this point.

Ive noticed a behavior change in karterfreak compared to last game, but im not sure if that means anything at all. Penev appears to be on the level, and thus far i think our top mafia suspect list is fairly accurate. Tom has a lot of audacity, but that kind of behavior can go either way.

For now im keeping my vote on sportsguy, and i hope that this game progresses a little quicker than it is right now. I complained about this last game, but now theres a lot of talking with little results.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 20:34:13

Joe, you've got to realize this is going to be a long game.  If we finished every day in 24 or 36 hours, we're going to make bad choices most of the time.  However, I agree with you that this day so far has been a waste.  We haven't done much of anything with the time we've had so far, and that is kind of frustrating.  You have to expect the game will take some time, but one would hope that time would be well spent.  I'm working my way through the topic to read everything closer right now, so I can make a useful post here soon.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 20:52:46

Bad decisions aside, it still forces people to speak up or face the consequences of being lynched. People like stinson (being silenced or not) wouldnt last more than a day or two. Im not calling him out, but this is the second game in a row that he chooses to not participate in.

Maybe if we changed the name of the thread to "kart meeting 2009" hed spend more time in this thread...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 21:03:00

Penev, you gotta stop replying and then changing your mind about replying. This isnt thd first time it has happened.

Yeah, i know that stinson is staying alive right now, but i had him pegged as mafia last game and i was fooled. I suppose you could say that my attention is best served elsewhere...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 21:04:43


53694E727B6E5B5D75757E4E7273747D1A0 wrote:
Yeah town is taking it easy, and they're trying to lynch me even thoguh I have a good role for them.

You have a role?


05343D3D05303D34510 wrote:
I really think we need to leave Sportsguy alone.  Scott is right about that. He is 90% a needledick.

Some hours ago Sportsguys was on your Suspects list. If you can change your opinion on people so quickly, what about the other people on your suspects list? I was on your list :)


It seems some people are unhappy with the developments and are unhappy that we will vote out some townies. We can try to make this day not a waste using another strategy play.

@cop: I don't know if you scanned Tom last night because I told you to flip a coin.
@protector: I don't know if you protected Tom last night because I told you to flip a coin.
@watcher: I don't know if you saw the cop or the protector last night because they weren't necessarily going to show up.

My suggestion for tonight...
Victim choice: whoever gets 2nd most number of lynch votes.
@vigilante: kill the victim
@cop: scan the victim (pointless, but...)
@blocker: block the victim (pointless, but...)
@protector: stay away...
@watcher: watch the victim
@the victim: if you're town and it looks like you're going to be the one with second-highest votes, then tell us not to do this to you if you're the granny or a power. If you're a needledick, then your noble sacrifice should be worth it... I think.

Anyone have a better idea?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 21:04:59

Penev is probably doing another one of his massive quote chain replies.  He explained it earlier in the thread, good luck finding it.

edit - hey look Penev replied with some quotes, like I said.  :3

edit2 - Penev why would they scan/watch/block the victim when they're going to be killed?  I mean I guess it makes sense if the mafia kills the vigilante who's about the make the kill or something, I don't know.  I feel like they're better off scanning/watching/blocking whoever they feel is worthy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 21:08:30

I dont know why it says hes replying and then doesnt show up for a minute or two after he presses post. Hes the only person ive seen that happen to.

Sully- i dont want to call you out, but id like to hear what youve got to say.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 21:08:40

@Penev: I don't know about the killing the second-highest voted for person. But as for the rest of that, as in all those people using their actions on the person who gets killed, that sounds like a good plan.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/03/09 at 21:09:16

What the fuck how is that a good plan?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 21:09:46

Alternatively, we can all agree on who is going to be lynched today... and then we all change our votes to NoLynch at the last moment. Then at night, that person is the vigilante's victim (and the rest plays out as I said) since that person was going to be lynched anyway. This way we kill 1 less person/townie at night.

It might also give Tom a chance to use his power, but I'm not sure who he will use it on, because he might accidentally block one of those power players.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 21:12:45

@Scott: obviously you have to tell us, the town, that the play is not a good idea if YOU think you will end up being the 2nd most votes. This means you have to say so before the topic is locked, otherwise it will be too late to say so afterwards.

I think the no-lynch play is better because then it's less risky (we will know exactly who the victim is). However, we would pretty much all need to agree to it so that we can switch our votes to NoLynch in time and make NoLynch win the vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 21:15:42

@Adam: it lets the watcher find townie roles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 21:17:37

I'm only advocating no lynch so that we can vigilante-kill the person who was going to be lynched anyway. That way the town only kills 1 person instead of 2. The same person (biggest vote-getter) ends up dying in both cases.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 21:19:43

I dont like the idea of no lynch, but it can be a good tool if were not sure who to lynch, which at this point appears to be happening. I dont want to let tyler off the hook, but if its going to benefit the town, then ill have to bite the bullet.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 21:24:51

If hes going to die anyway, why not just lynch him? I dont exactly see the point in letting a lynch go by that was going to kill the same person anyway? I know alex explained the chain of events, but it just seems like we could lynch our most suspicious and then do the rest at night, like alex originally explained...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/03/09 at 21:26:43

VOTE UPDATE

7 Sportsguy (Kmacc, Drag, Fababu, Darius, Jabes, In Hiding, Adam L)
6 Isthatagoodthing (Booth, Sully, Detective Spril, MVT, AlexPenev, Brutus)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)
1 Honko (oneshotbilly)
1 Extol (Sportsguy)
1 Adam L (Isthatagoodthing)

Deadline: 24 hours, 34 minutes from this post, rounded to the nearest hour.

This message was inspired by Lovefool by the Cardigans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuQ0AQ7YWS8


Also, for some reason the combination of letters "Padzup" has errors showing up on my computer.  If everyone could refer to him as "Jack" from now on I would highly appreciate it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 21:27:56

We still have 24 to choose someone, no rush. We do have to try and be a bit more productive in finding stuff out however, last day long time period hasn't helped much. As for this plan, I'll go with whatever everyone (or majority) thinks is the best decision for the town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 21:28:00

And i could see that philosophy, but i still think we should take risks. The point of the game is to try to weed out the mafia, and if you cant do it in 72 hours of explaining, then you deserve the lynch.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/03/09 at 21:29:06

Okay I have something I'd like answered.

Why do the people suggested not get mentioned at all after being suggested.  Where did we all decide Brutus was free and clear?  He didn't start posting like his old self until Day 2, Day 1 he was so abnormal but everyone seems to have forgiven him.  Way out of character for Brutus.

The rest of the people who are extremely quiet: THIS should not be tolerated! I swear we decided at the end of the last game that people who were quiet would instantly be the biggest suspects and would be killed without question.  So far the quietest are Nathan, April, Tim, and Sean.  Sean's been backed up by a few people but still, those four don't seem to have much value at all, but why won't anyone support any kind of play on them?  It's like whenever I or anyone else suggests it, a huge power of resistance holds them back.

Also: Why has no one addressed Adam L?  He straight out said in a post "I AM MAFIA" and I am the only one that voted for him?  How can we not vote to kill someone who said they were mafia?  This doesn't make any sense to me, and everything I post is never getting answered.

EDIT: SAME HERE

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 21:31:47

Well that would mean we would require to throw two people out there. We need to come up with the best choice before we come up with the next best choice. But we are up 20-5 so risks at this point aren't terribly bad, so killing off two people could be a possibility.

But if we don't have a second best choice, would it be better to just go for one person or lynch a random useless/annoying/quiet person?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/03/09 at 21:33:13

Random useless person.  We could do without ALL of them for all I care. They aren't posting, they aren't helping, simple as that.  You say we're up 20-5...that's decent but us killing two townies and the mafia killing one at night would bring us to 17-5 which is pretty crappy looking suddenly again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 21:34:16

@Scott: About Adam, he's like that a lot, he's one of the jokesters. I see how this could be frustrating, and I find it very suspicious as well. I just don't think enough people are willing to accept it as something we should lynch or pressure him for because of my above statement about being a joker. Something to definitely keep an eye on though, and if he begins to show no use then we can see what we do with him from there.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/03/09 at 21:36:52

I think adam might have just gotten bored with the game, so hes trying to get himself out of it. that or hes joking trying to see who'll vote to lynch him. I dont think hes mafia though, but i could me mistaken.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 21:38:44

If what adam said is the truth (that hes mafia and leaves for a different state) then im not against having him be our second choice to be killed. If he really doesnt want to play or have the time to play, or wont be posting for an undisclosed period of time, then its probably in our best interest to cast him off.

As for our first choice, lets apply more pressure to april and brutus. Im with scott when he said that these people contribute little to the game, and killing either of them also wouldnt be a bad idea.

Obviously our best move would be to keep our strongest players, role or no role, alive. Weak players, role or no role, need to go.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/03/09 at 21:40:56

So if you want to apply some pressure, how about changing your vote at least?

All talk and no action ain't gonna get it done boys.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/03/09 at 21:42:21

Joe I totally agree with the last line of yours there.  Weak players....just LOOK at the mafia.cgi page and you should see who isn't helping at all.  It's pretty clear.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 21:43:22

There's no point in applying pressure on Brutus because everyone just thinks you're stupid then since he is an "obvious townie". I tried that day 1 since he's useless and got criticized for it which was pretty stupid.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/03/09 at 21:43:55

unvote

Vote: adam

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 21:53:19

I could have sworn I had unvoted already

UNVOTE

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 21:54:41

@Scott: we can't do it to nathan because he could be the granny (!!) or the cockbite or the cop or the watcher or the bodyguard... or lots of things. And if he's silenced, he won't be here to tell us about it. if it's Sportsguy, and he's a genuine needledick, then he's expendable and he will be happy to "take one for the team" if he thinks he's going to be lynched anyway.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/03/09 at 21:54:54

Due to some complaint, I'm going to undo the editing change to the rules. However, you can still edit as long as there is no editing timestamp on your post. IF THERE IS, I WILL MODKILL YOU. There is 15 minutes after you post in which there is no edit timestamp, so you have 15 minutes after you post to edit. Also, Scott made minor edits to test how long it was that there was no edit timestamp, please ignore this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 21:59:07

Let's come to a consensus...  Who  might be mafia and even if they are not, it wouldn't hurt the town if they were killed?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/03/09 at 22:00:52

Wouldn't hurt the town: People with insane low Day 2 post counts.


Said it before and I'll say it again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/03/09 at 22:01:06

My personal hit list

Padzup (Jack - goose request)

Extol

Adam L



I wouldn't mind seeing any of those guys axed.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/03/09 at 22:02:44

Members viewing this topic (9): Jabes, Kmacc, IsThatAGoodThing, Padzup (replying), Extol, MVT, AlexPenev, nstinson, sully.

unvote /scott
vote: no lynch

Don't bandwagon on a no-lynch yet. If you want to follow 'the plan of awesome', first figure out who is to be lynched (then saved (then killed at night)).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/03/09 at 22:02:52

^Padzup has at least contributed some interesting points. Extol is iffy for me as of right now. Adam I definitely agree on though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/03/09 at 22:02:57

MVT, you keep just making lists without new reasoning or explanation.  In an earlier post which seems to have been totally ignored, I posted about how people who just make a list with a few people in it, they get no response, but if they explain their reasons they get attacked.  Let's hear reasons, I won't attack you.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/03/09 at 22:04:21

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

6 Sportsguy (Kmacc, Drag, Fababu, Darius, In Hiding, Adam L)
4 Isthatagoodthing (Booth, Sully, Detective Spril, Brutus)
2 Adam L (Isthatagoodthing, Jabes)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)
1 Honko (oneshotbilly)
1 Extol (Sportsguy)
1 No-Lynch (Alex)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 22:18:42

AlexPenev wrote:

Quote:
@cop: scan the victim (pointless, but...)
@blocker: block the victim (pointless, but...)
If you're a needledick, then your noble sacrifice should be worth it... I think.


If it's pointless then I don't see why we should go through with it. Seems unnecessary. But I'm sure those roles know that and they'll likely do their own thing Night 2. Also how would it be worth wasting all our town powers on a needledick?

Kmacc wrote:

Quote:
@Penev: I don't know about the killing the second-highest voted for person. But as for the rest of that, as in all those people using their actions on the person who gets killed, that sounds like a good plan.

What? You're basically asking the town powers to stay on one person while mafia is free to kill whoever else they please. It's ridiculous.

AlexPenev wrote:

Quote:
Alternatively, we can all agree on who is going to be lynched today... and then we all change our votes to NoLynch at the last moment. Then at night, that person is the vigilante's victim (and the rest plays out as I said) since that person was going to be lynched anyway. This way we kill 1 less person/townie at night.
It might also give Tom a chance to use his power, but I'm not sure who he will use it on, because he might accidentally block one of those power players.


That's a terrible idea. If the person who is lynched turns out to be town then the town powers will be able to reconsider their line of thinking and ultimately have a better idea who is mafia by the time they perform their night actions. Conversely if the lynched person is mafia, town powers can make connections based on that instead of shooting in the dark. Plus you're going to risk that one of the town powers will be blocked! What you're asking for only really helps mafia here.

AlexPenev wrote:

Quote:
@Adam: it lets the watcher find townie roles.


This won't help anyone since the watcher will either be forced to remain silent or come out and be killed the next night. And if they reveal who they saw, mafia will instantly know that they are all town powers!

Kmacc wrote:

Quote:
As for this plan, I'll go with whatever everyone (or majority) thinks is the best decision for the town.


NO! You're missing the point, we're supposed to use critical thinking to come to our own conclusions and vote based on that. Some odd moves there Kmacc, don't feel threatened just because one or two people accused you of being mafia when you did something. If you don't follow through with your decisions then you're no more helpful than Stinson.

I'd like to say to everyone right now that anyone suggesting a no-lynch should be a giant red flag to all of you. At the current ratio of town to mafia the benefits far outweigh the risk. If we lose three town by Day 3, that's a shame but if anything it means that mafia will be easier to find since there are fewer people. And depending on who those town were we will have a much better idea of who mafia is.

Goose [ch9829] wrote:

Quote:
Also, for some reason the combination of letters "Padzup" has errors showing up on my computer.  If everyone could refer to him as "Jack" from now on I would highly appreciate it.

fuck you goose

And MVT why are you railing on me to be killed exactly? You are the only one so far to call me out. Please explain. At the very least it might bring some new critical opinion to light. But we wouldn't want that, would we?  ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 22:22:59

I forgot to mention: I seriously doubt there will be enough people here at the end of the Day to switch votes to no-lynch at the last second. It's a nice thought but it sounds like you could be gathering votes for a townie then trying to pull a no-lynch so only that townie is killed. Essentially there would be no risk that town kills a mafia that night so it's one town and one mafia down if town is lucky but more likely two towns and 95% chance no mafia is killed!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 22:53:05

Fuck me this topic takes a long time to read.  Who's been spamming it up? ::)

Still working through the 59872 pages.  I don't like Alex's "plan of awesome" very much, but I'll get there later.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Fababu on 03/03/09 at 23:00:19

Well, I haven't got time to read all the 5 new pages of posts of this night, but I've seen MVT suspicious list where I appear. I'll thank you a lot if you could tell me why. If it is because I don't post enough, don't worry, I'll solve it; but if you have any other reason I'll like to hear it, because it's hard to deffend yourself when you don't know why are you being judge.
When I return from school I'll finish of reading alll new messages and I'll post again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/03/09 at 23:13:25


5578716C44717A7162140 wrote:
@cop: scan the victim (pointless, but...)
@blocker: block the victim (pointless, but...)

If you're a needledick, then your noble sacrifice should be worth it... I think.


Definitely not pointless for the roleblocker to block the victim.  If the victim is the guy who kills you for seeing him at night, the entire town would be royally fucked if Blocker didn't block (Roleblock always has the first priority, as Robin told me last game).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 23:18:41

That was true for my game Scott, but I don't know if Lenny will do it the same way.

Also I don't know if the gun owner can be blocked at all anyway.  Wouldn't the roleblocker just die as well?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/03/09 at 23:27:08

Yes Moralist is essentially invincible at night. Anyone performing any action on them is killed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/03/09 at 23:49:13

I just noticed Brutus doesn't have a single vote on him.  Why?  He has been useless all game.  I know that's his "style" or whatever, but what's the point in keeping him around if he's not gonna help?  He just signed on, and I'd like a serious response from him for once.

BRUTUS U BETTER EXPLANE URSELF

Vote: Brutus

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 00:11:09

@Padzup:

Quote:
Also how would it be worth wasting all our town powers on a needledick?

It increases the working information for the town. There is also a chance that the victim will be mafia. Presumably why we're voting for them.


Quote:
You're basically asking the town powers to stay on one person while mafia is free to kill whoever else they please. It's ridiculous.

The mafia is almost certain to kill a townie tonight. They should be expected to get a kill every night. They'll know who we think is valuable and perhaps try to avoid them (for fear of protection) and make safe votes. It's really really hard to stop the mafia making a night kill in the early stages, with so many choices for the mafia.
- blocker has ~4% chance tonight. Supposing he/she can rule out half the players based on magic hunches, then it's 8%. Still quite low.
- protector is free to act under my plan. He/she can pick someone worth protecting.
- vigs ~21% chance of mafia kill, ~39% of making "big mistake" (35% town power, 4% granny) and ~40% chance of a "tiny mistake" (needledick). Supposing they also have some magic hunches, maybe they can improve their rate to 30% mafia / 30% big mistake or so. Unless their hunches are really magical, they shouldn't be getting above 50%. With the granny/cop/watcher/protector in play, they may not even take the risk.

The other two powers (watcher, cop) are scanners and can't stop the kill. For them, I think the cop has ~25% chance of a legit mafia scan, ~4% of fake town scan, and the other ~70% is for confirming a townie. His/her big chance is to confirm a townie. My plan-of-awesome for the watcher not only confirms 3 townies, but 3 powerful townies.


Quote:
This won't help anyone since the watcher will either be forced to remain silent or come out and be killed the next night. And if they reveal who they saw, mafia will instantly know that they are all town powers!

It's the same as the cop. The watcher becomes like a second cop. Just like the cop can't or shouldn't reveal things right away, the watcher also won't. With 28 players, the game should last about 12 days. The cop will hopefully live to half-way (day6), max day12, expected day9, so he/she should make  about 9 scans during the game. I'd guess 2-3 of these will be mafia discoveries and 6-7 will be townie confirmations. The plan-of-awesome gives the watcher 3 confirmations fairly quickly, which is a third of the work the cop will do during the whole game. That's surely pretty good for one day. Think of it as an investment.

The mafia will be tempted to do their "misinformation" by poisoning the vision of the watcher, letting one of their own slip into the orgy. If you understand the plan, then you will know how to discover who the protector and that mafia partycrasher was using another 1 or 2 similar plays.



@Padzup: also I accidentally modified your posted instead of quoted it (the buttons are right next to each other). I put back the content of your original post, with the quote boxes (links and timestamps) messed up. Perhaps you can confirm that the content is the same as what you had written down.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 01:43:04

Unvote

Alright, rereading is getting really boring and I have class in the morning so I'm stopping at Night 1 for now.  Here's my thoughts from looking back on that day on some of the more interesting characters.

Scott - Somewhat fishy.  He's having some major mood swings during this day, first overreacting to everything and then being very calm.  He posts a semi-elaborate plan to try and slow the Flo lynch.  He defends me multiple times - thanks but no thanks, I'll fight my own battles, stop trying to buddy up with people.  One thing in his defense is that Flo voted for him near the beginning.  Flo doesn't seem like he was capable of pulling any tricks like voting for his teammate to disassociate with them from the very start.

Tom - It's no secret I'm annoyed by his playstyle, but he's the closest we have to being a confirmed townie now, so I don't want to see any votes on him.  If someone else is the jailkeeper, you better speak up, because trading the jailkeeper for a mafia would be excellent for us.  As long as that doesn't happen, we can trust Tom is a townie and therefore has good intentions.  I just wish he would use his confirmed status to post some good analysis for us.

Tim, Darius, Sword, Fababu - I have no notes about you four, meaning your posted content never caught my eye.  That kind of surprises me, especially Darius since I know he made some substantial posts.  I think it means you didn't say much that hadn't already been said by others.  Hopefully this has changed on Day 2, if it hasn't try to step it up.  Not suspicious of any of you yet, just hoping everyone contributes their own ideas to the town.

Stinson - Useless on Day 1, silent today.  Not a good choice to lynch today since he may be silenced, but tomorrow we should strongly consider it.  Padzup made a good observation about Flo/Stinson in his post on Page 13.  Basically, Flo tried to deflect attention off himself onto some others who had made minimal posts, but didn't mention Stinson who had done the exact same thing right next to them.  And of course there's the fact that Stinson is the last person you would expect the mafia to silence.  Maybe the mafia expected us to think that and suspect him, or maybe he's mafia pretending.  Either way, Stinson should be at the top of the lynch list on Day 3 unless he gives us a reason not to.

Brutus - I don't really suspect him one way or the other, but he is pretty, useless.  If there's ever a day where we can't decide who to lynch, maybe we should lynch him.

Adam - I don't suspect him either, I would be surprised if he's not a needledick as he claimed at the beginning.  I think he just doesn't care about the game.  He should be lynched once he's gone on that trip or whatever, if not sooner, just because he's dead weight at that point.

MVT - Some very fishy posts by him on Day 1, and the way he quickly turns on and off the aggressive playstyle is also strange.  Only point in his favor is that Flo said he suspected him.

Oneshot - Has he said anything all game except parroting Tom?

Sportsguy - I didn't even realize he was in the game, and it seems that he's made some bad posts today.  I'll look into it closer when I get to those pages, but so far I don't see much in his favor.

*falls asleep*

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 02:42:29

lets lynch sportsguy so i can say i'm right.. again :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/04/09 at 02:45:45

There are 20 hours 15 minutes remaining in this day

Felt like saying that. =D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/04/09 at 03:22:27

Just about managed to read everything, pretty much going to focus on Penev's 'plan of awesome' for now.

First of all, just a note on something you said about Stinson: he can't be the granny otherwise the silencer would be dead instead. If he hasn't been silenced then he's mafia (I'm not going to consider the notion that he's that bad a town player that he wouldn't tell us he wasn't silenced). I'm not in favour of killing him at present but that's not one of the reasons why we shouldn't.

Now to the plan: I agree that it would enable some strong town connections to be made and give the watcher a firmer base to work from in terms of knowing the power roles. However, if the mafia know who is going to be targeted is a townie, aren't they just going to use the Dominatrix on the victim? This isn't a problem if the watcher gets to know the names AND the roles of everyone who visits the victim and Sportsguy also appears as his genuine role once he dies. Here's an example of what I mean:

-Sportsguy is the chosen victim (either through the no lynch plan or through second highest votes). He is a needledick.
-Roleblocker chooses to block Sportsguy.
-Framer chooses to make Sportsguy appear mafia.
-Cop scans Sportsguy and finds that he is mafia.
-Vigilantes choose to kill Sportsguy.
-Watcher chooses to watch Sportsguy and discovers who the four visitors (I assume vigilantes don't both go to kills together) are.

Now, if the information the watcher gets is 'Penev, the cop, scans Sportsguy, Honko, the roleblocker, etc.' then that works fine. If the information the watcher gets is 'Penev, Honko, Adam and Sean visited Sportsguy', the watcher knows that 3 out of the 4 are town but not which 3. I'm assuming that once Sportsguy dies, he will appear as needledick because it says the framer only makes victims appear as mafia to cops. The cop will then know that the framer visited Sportsguy. The mafia could also send the silencer or their roleblocker to Sportsguy to confuse us further. If the framer doesn't visit Sportsguy then the cop's scan will be consistent with Sportsguy's role reveal on death: in this case, he will be a needledick both times. That will also confirm to the watcher (if his information doesn't already tell him) that everyone who visited Sportsguy is town. Of course, part of the problem with this is relaying the information to each other without giving away power roles. This plan is also worthless without the watcher, so he needs to be behind it or we'll waste several power roles in Night 2.

In short, I want to know the extent of the information the watcher gets so that we can determine just how useful knowing who visits the victim is if there are a large number of visitors.

I'm also still for my vote on Sportsguy. I'm not sure what his reasoning is behind naming me as mafia aside from the fact that I suspect him but posting a list is not a convincing argument to me. Also, consider this: when Tom posted his list of suspects yesterday afternoon it included Extol, April and Kmacc and Sportsguy replied saying he thought Tom had a max of two right. Later on that evening, Sportsguy's list was myself, Extol, April and Kmacc. I can find no evidence in his posts for why he suddenly believes Tom is more right than he stated earlier, or for why he suspects me when I think I've been a pretty open town player since the start.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 03:26:34

If only the town were allowed to pm others who they think are town. Infact, why can't they?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/04/09 at 04:10:03

I think it would defeat the point of the game if we could talk to each other in private. The mafia's advantage of shared knowledge and certainty would be taken away, making it a pretty unfair game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 04:18:35

well darius, for what its worth, i think you should keep a bit quieter :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/04/09 at 04:30:29

I'll try not to talk too much  :P. It's hard when there's only a couple of us around.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 05:00:18

let me do the name and shaming.

Alex, if you dont say something exceptional to prove to me you are townie you're going on the mafia list by default.

Current suspects are;
1) Extol
2) Honko
3) April
4) Kmacc

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 05:11:36

man so much content posted.   I just had to skim it for now, but it looks like it is possible nobody will get lynched.  Oh well, still not changing my vote cause I'm still more suspicious of Scott than Sportsguy, and there are no other canadates really truly up in votes so all stays the same on my end.  See ya after work.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 07:02:11

Dear vigilantes,

If, when night 2 comes, you do not have a clear suspect in mind that you are CERTAIN is mafia, kill me instead.  I am a needledick, it is only a small loss, plus I'm leaving on Sunday and it's doubtful that I'll be on a computer again for a couple weeks.  Sometimes it's better to take the sacrifice and wait another day to take a shot at the mafia.

Sincerely,
Sir Adam Michael Leibach the IV esq

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 07:02:17

to be honest, I suggest that if we dont all agree on sportsguy then we're a flop. Anyone who doesn't vote sportsguy is prob mafia. I'm giving you all about 2hours.

(I was under the impression that if someone had the highest amount of votes they were auto lynched.. seems not).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 07:03:47

Tom, your gut hunch can't be right all the time.  Besides, sportsguy isn't even on your suspect list.

edit - added my post from the bottom of the last page so noone misses it


6C5A494F4746776E475A4B4D280 wrote:
Dear vigilantes,

If, when night 2 comes, you do not have a clear suspect in mind that you are CERTAIN is mafia, kill me instead.  I am a needledick, it is only a small loss, plus I'm leaving on Sunday and it's doubtful that I'll be on a computer again for a couple weeks.  Sometimes it's better to take the sacrifice and wait another day to take a shot at the mafia.

Sincerely,
Sir Adam Michael Leibach the IV esq

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 07:11:25

@Honko:

Quote:
Stinson - Not a good choice to lynch today since he may be silenced, but tomorrow we should strongly consider it.

If the mafia wants to use the silencer to its fullest, they would probably keep silencing the same person over and over. If Stinson talks tomorrow, the mafia wasted their silencer action today. Their best play would be to keep muting Stinson. It's strange they picked him and not someone like Padzup, Tom, me or Darius. (Or Scott, lol).


Quote:
Padzup made a good observation about Flo/Stinson in his post on Page 13.  Basically, Flo tried to deflect attention off himself onto some others who had made minimal posts, but didn't mention Stinson who had done the exact same thing right next to them.

I touched on this point earlier. Stinson was one of the first people to vote for Flo, in the early stages of the bandwagon.



@Tom:

Quote:
If only the town were allowed to pm others who they think are town. Infact, why can't they?
This role is a Mason. Townies who can talk in private. We might use it next mafia game? Diglets!


@Darius:

Quote:
First of all, just a note on something you said about Stinson: he can't be the granny otherwise the silencer would be dead instead.

Good point. I did mentioned in the first half of Day2 that I considered it more likely that nobody was muted. Given how much time has elapsed, you're probably right that he was muted, and can't be granny. Still could be town power.



Quote:
However, if the mafia know who is going to be targeted is a townie, aren't they just going to use the Dominatrix on the victim?

Yep. I've thought about it a fair bit. The information will almost certainly be in the form of "the person you were watching was visited by: Penev, Clark, Tom, Flo, Etch", and not the roles, otherwise it's too easy and overpowered. Check the mafia wiki. Lenny can confirm, but I'm 99% sure.
The big clue is the number of names that appear. If it's not the number the watcher expects, something is fishy. If less names appear, the mafia got a lucky roleblock, but at least the 2 who appear are both town. If 3 appear, either they're all town, or 1 is mafia AND the mafia got a lucky roleblock (unlikely, but possible). If 4 names appear, 3 town 1 mafia. If 5 names, 3 town 2 mafia. If 6 names, 3 town 3 mafia. The cases with 2-from-5 and 3-from-6 mafia are saturated and the watcher might as well just reveal all the names and let them all get slaughtered, bagging at least 2 mafia trophies to put over the fireplace. So mafia will only send 0 or 1 gatecrashers. Note that the watcher doesn't need to know who is what role. Only their allegiance!

If a mafia crashes, watcher will want to figure out who. There's 2 course of action:
1. be patient and see if some of the players die out via normal means as the game progresses. Watcher has no need to reveal anything until the cop does. Until then, watcher can assume all 4 are town and defend them or support their votes. 1 black sheep in captivity amongst 3 white rams isn't going to mess things up too much when there's 4 black sheep still out in the wild that need to be barbecued.
2. the above is the preferred scenario, but the alternative is for the watcher to take control, roleclaim, and direct a second plan-of-awesome to figure out the missing details. This time watcher should ask for protection and order the cop/blocker/vigs to perform different actions that help watcher figure it out, e.g. asking "if the vig who killed Sportsguy is in this list: <lists 5-6 names>, then kill Brutus tonight" reveals the vig, and "I need protector and cop on me tonight" reveals cop and protector, leaving roleblocker as the remaining name. With an extra plan-of-awesome, the watcher finds out more. I think the worst-case scenario is 3 power plays in total (1 tonight, 2 later), which occurs if the mafia gatecrash the first two plays with a different member. Since this leads to 2 mafias being killed unless the mafia succeeds in slaying the watcher while they delay him/her, the mafia might not stretch it to 3 plays. Heck, they might not even risk making 2 plays, and it could all be over by tonight. HOWEVER, this course of action can't work while the mafia can roleblock. So be patient and don't expect the watcher to take control until Hooker is dead.

Since the hooker dying may take some time to eventuate, the preferred alternative to the 2nd course of action, IMO, would be that one of us normal joes act as conductor on behalf of the watcher and orchestrate a 2nd play, under the assumption that 1 mafia will gatecrash the 1st play. (If 2 or 3 mafia gatecrash, watcher should just out everyone tomorrow). So far I've taken the conductor role, but Darius or Padzup can probably take over if I'm gone. The important thing is to get the town support to make a power play, otherwise you can't know if any of the powers involved will follow directions. I'd normally suggest for Sully to do it because he's a minesweeper guy and mafia is just multidimentional minesweeper, but Sully is a bit fishy, and Darius/Pazdup seem to have put more thought into my crazy plans, so they're more likely to understand them. Anyway, it's kind of exciting to try and do some teamwork stuff. Even if we don't do it, it's still fun to think about  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 07:39:43

just something not... quite... right... about your post(s).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 07:40:37


564A4D4F4351455A13220 wrote:
to be honest, I suggest that if we dont all agree on sportsguy then we're a flop. Anyone who doesn't vote sportsguy is prob mafia. I'm giving you all about 2hours.

(I was under the impression that if someone had the highest amount of votes they were auto lynched.. seems not).


The day isn't over and whats the deal with giving 2hours.  As robin mentioned earlier, you got really lucky last game that your bad kills were blocked which would have resulted in the town losing most likely.  

Also, why aren't i on your suspect list?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 07:42:00

because in my eyes you're already dead. ;D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/04/09 at 08:14:40

After reading over Alex's plan many times, I've finally decided that I like where it's going.  The biggest thing that can screw us over is if the player we're blocking/killing/watching etc is the moralist, which is like Alex said, only a 4% chance.  However, if we go through with this plan, the moralist HAS to tell us today his role.  Otherwise we would be going on a massive Town suicide.  As long as we aren't planning on Nate as our victim tonight, there shouldn't be a problem hearing it.  With this big town lead, any mafia leads we can have are crucial.  We should also have another action the next day though that helps us decipher the town/mafia in another slice, to help determine which of the potential mafia are actually that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/04/09 at 08:17:47

One thing that I just thought of that I'm sure isn't allowed (but would be funny and useless for Town if it was) is that even though Needledicks don't have night actions, can they go visit the victim just to say hi?  They wouldn't do anything, but it would throw off our scans.  Just a funny thought.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Flo1 on 03/04/09 at 08:24:10

LOL, so that townies would win more easily?
I just don't agree with this idea  ;D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/04/09 at 08:42:07

One more thing I forgot to add was that I think we should still lynch someone tonight.  Hopefully though it isn't one of the people involved in the plan.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/04/09 at 08:53:14

I'm with Penev on this plan now, I think that was a pretty good explanation of how it'd work and I can see where we would go with it on Day 3 too.

However, I still think we should lynch Sportsguy. Penev's plan works just as well if we agree to kill off the person with the second most votes overnight. Also, if we lynch Sportsguy then we'll have the whole of Night 2 to reread what he said and who was for/against lynching him, giving everyone a break to collect their thoughts about him. If we wait until the night to kill him, we won't find out if he's mafia or town until the start of Day 3, when the mafia will get a chance to start another bout of misdirection and people will struggle to keep up again.

Watcher, cop, roleblocker, vigilantes: hopefully you're all paying attention to the thread for the rest of Day 2. I think this is a pretty high percentage plan, we have a good number advantage and it's a much more coherent strategy than people going on hunches and guesses. When I read the list of night actions after the last game it struck me that there was quite a lot of random stuff going on that was potentially very dangerous to town. If we can stick to this I think we're much more likely to get some solid information without the danger of hampering town's night actions.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 09:31:54

I don't like any plan that involves me getting killed.  Adam says he is leaving on sunday and probably wouldn't be able to post after that.  Personally i think April is mafia.  It's a gut feeling.  I would like to lynch tom because his gut is wrong and will only do damage to the town in the future.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/04/09 at 10:11:30

Finally has finished to read all the new posts here (I started a few hours ago but had to go at school)

About Alex's plan : something really interesting here, this plan could bring some solid informations about the game which is what we clearly lack at that point (still 25 people and only day 2...), this is somewhat a bit risky though :

-you have to be certain that all the power roles would agree with this and follow you on (especially the watcher) otherwise other power roles will be wasted for this night.

-mafia can possibly mess up this strat if they kill, roleblock or silence a power role (again let's hope the watcher won't be targetted tonight...)

About the no-lynch vote, well why not, after all it would also Tom to use his power once (assuming he is the jailkeeper), but with a lynch today the chances catching a mafia are greater, there is the risk to kill 2 townies though, so 3 townies killed with the mafia one in a few hours...
This is something we can try for at least one day, with the current ratio townie/mafia, we don't lose that much by aiming to get sure information instead trying to simply guess some mafia who could be mafia.

About the guy we can kill tonight, whether we follow the no-lynch strat or not, I'm undecided, I'm starting doubting Sportsguy could be mafia, but still it won't be a big lose if he is town unless he detains a power role (in this case he should reveal it now) and seems the most probable guy to be lynched/killed. Second choice could be Scott or some quiet people, but tbh I don't have enough clues about which is actually mafia...

Hopefully this night will clear up some things :)


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 11:16:17

all this talk about what role is doing what is starting to really confuse me...  :-/

im also confused about why we would no-lynch. is it because we wouldnt lose any town in case sportsguy is a townie? cause that would be good if we didnt lynch him and he turned out to be town. but wouldnt that give the mafia a one-up either way if we didnt lynch anyone? cause they would have one kill to our one, instead of one to our potential two...

im going to reread the stuff that alex and them said to see if i can make sense of it..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 11:27:06


577A736E4673787360160 wrote:
If the mafia wants to use the silencer to its fullest, they would probably keep silencing the same person over and over. If Stinson talks tomorrow, the mafia wasted their silencer action today. Their best play would be to keep muting Stinson. It's strange they picked him and not someone like Padzup, Tom, me or Darius. (Or Scott, lol).

By saying this, you're basically giving him a free pass for the rest of the game.  If he's only pretending to be silenced, he can keep doing so every day and stay in the game.  He was useless on Day 1, and I'd rather take the risk of lynching a useless townie who has been silenced than the risk of letting a mafia sneak past us with the easiest strategy in the world: not posting at all.


Quote:
I touched on this point earlier. Stinson was one of the first people to vote for Flo, in the early stages of the bandwagon.

It doesn't really matter if he was early or late.  A bandwagon vote is still a bandwagon vote, and an earlier one just means he thought ahead better.  The only time someone really looks strongly innocent is when they're the first to bring up the lynch and back it up with original thoughts.  That makes Tom and SuperYoshi look good.  Everyone else may or may not have been just going on for the ride.

I need to read the "plan of awesome" carefully before I comment on most of it, but I don't see the point of no lynch in this situation even if we follow the plan.  All it gains us is Tom's power, which with 25 people left isn't great.  He has a better chance of roleblocking a town power than of doing anything good.  We still have several people who are of no use to us.  What happened to everyone's Day 1 passion for killing off the useless guys?  With out current advantage in numbers, this is the time we can afford to do that.  If we start losing our numbers advantage, soon we'll be stuck with them and say "I wish we had lynched quiet guy when we had the chance, but now we can't risk it in case he's town."

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by dragondragon on 03/04/09 at 11:35:07

At least we'll know if he's been silenced after the day is over.  That way we would know if it was Mafia's doing, or if Nate is just being quiet.

Edit:  Just because we're not doing anything about him now, doesn't mean we won't later after we get more information about the whole situation.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Fababu on 03/04/09 at 11:51:17

Ok, I like Penev's plan. Nothing similar has been used in previous games, so If we play it well we will catch mafia easily. The main base of it is that townies may be agree (mainly power roles) to do it.
It may be hard because there're some random stuff that can make not seeing the reality, but we should give it a try at least and look which are the results at day 3.
Respect my vote, I'll keep my vote at least until I go to bed. Nothing that he has said recently make me change my opinion about he's being mafia, and this


Quote:
I don't like any plan that involves me getting killed.  Adam says he is leaving on sunday and probably wouldn't be able to post after that.  Personally i think April is mafia.  It's a gut feeling.  I would like to lynch tom because his gut is wrong and will only do damage to the town in the future.


we... I don't really know what to think about it; I keep think that Tom is townie, so I doubt about the lynch on him. BTW, I'd 2 or 3 hours until I go to sleep, so my decission could change.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/04/09 at 12:49:11

I haven't seen Stinson listed as a person viewing this topic in a LONG time, so it's highly possible that he's just an idiot.

I'll be bowling tonight, but I'll try to be around for the night's deadline.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/04/09 at 12:54:37


686E626060030 wrote:
There's no point in applying pressure on Brutus because everyone just thinks you're stupid then since he is an "obvious townie". I tried that day 1 since he's useless and got criticized for it which was pretty stupid.


i think you're mafia and pretty stupid

unvote

vote kmacc

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/04/09 at 13:07:32

I'm going out after this post so I'm going to declare my final thoughts for Day 2 now so that everyone knows where I stand.

My vote stays with Sportsguy. I don't think no lynch is a good idea and I've already stated my suspicions and doubts about him, none of which have changed.

Several players are being far too quiet. Town lurkers aren't doing us any good. I understand that the game can be difficult to keep up with if you're out all day; those players who are finding it hard to keep up should not vote no lynch. I think we need to move this game along at a good pace because at the moment too many people are disinterested and that's only hurting the town and helping the mafia.

I am all for Penev's plan, either using Sportsguy as the victim if people vote no lynch or with Scott/whoever else ends up second. Town players, especially power roles, if you don't know what I'm talking about then you need to read Penev's posts and state your opinion. We don't want to waste our time with the watcher ending up watching absolutely nothing.

See you all tomorrow! (edit: although I just realised we won't actually be able to post, so make that Friday)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/04/09 at 13:52:27

Just got home from work, and was out almost all day yesterday (out or sleeping...sorry guys, I'm not online sometimes), and I just scanned the last 6 pages or so, so my first thoughts:


Quote:
I'm not going to say it meanly, but I don't see any reason why April might not be falling into the same category.  Perhaps she has other things going on in her life and doesn't care to post here very much.


Yea, I was at work all day and was doing things almost all yesterday as well, so I haven't had the time over the last 48 hours to post a whole lot, and most of it is just responses on things people are saying about me, and my suspicions about others. When I have something of substance to post, I post, but if not, I'm not going to post a whole bunch.


Quote:
April is mafia - if you were a woman and called someone a fat bitch then you would respond to that. You wouldn't if you were more focused on making sure people thought you weren't mafia when you are.


Yes, because this makes complete and total sense. When I read that from Scott, I actually laughed and said "thank you" out loud :P IRL, Scott would have been bitch-slapped for that, but tbh, online I couldn't care less.

Anyway, I scanned a bit about the no-lynch thing, but I'd like to read it through (with some other things), and I'll make another post in a bit with my thoughts...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 14:23:14

Darius, I've done to the best my ability to prove that i'm not mafia, but you don't believe me no matter what i say.  

Unvote
Vote April


She has reasons why she hasn't been posting, but you can't figure out anything without people posting and she hasn't done enough of it.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 14:42:59

Ok I know I haven't been giving the topic much attention but I will from now on as I've had a "second wind".

I just had a thought.  What if Stinson isn't actually silenced and the silencer didn't user his ability?  What if he's mafia pretending to be to look innocent?  Sorry if this has been touched on already but I've only skimread the topic.

That's all for now really.  I'll try to get tuned in from now on.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by In Hiding on 03/04/09 at 14:52:25

heavens above town, just vote for sportsguy!!!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 14:57:50

I'm considering it, it doesn't seem conclusive though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 14:58:50

Come on Tim, don't let tom's gut influence your vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 15:01:24

Hmmm, it's not to do with Tom.  I know he has some sort of (fake) psychic power like with his instant spot of Flo but maybe he's getting overconfident.  I have to say you did appear suspicious, but no more so than anyone else.  People are just looking for excuses I think.  

Anyhow, why don't we vote off Adam if he's going to be gone anyway?  Anyone have any reason to suspect him?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 15:02:51

Scott, why do you want to do the conservative No Lynch route when you listed 4 people we can easily afford to lose?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 15:04:08

Because Scott is a contradicting over excited fag who is clearly on his period and can't make his mind up.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:21:09

After re-examining the thread I have come up with irrefutable evidence that Brutus is mafia. So far all he has been doing is throwing around random votes. He did that the last game, when he was a townie. This game, the odds are that he is some kind of mafia role, believe me - I calculated them out myself. His lack of posting can be tied to the fact that he is a person with low mental capacity, clearly a mafia figure in my eyes. Not everyone can be Al Capone. Aside from that he is easily the most useless player at the moment, and I'm not just saying that because I hate his racial antagonisms. Well maybe I am, I don't know. If Brutus wants to prove he is a townie I expect him to not only reveal his role with a good explanation but also do vote updates by the hour. Brutus, the time is now!

vote: Brutus

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/04/09 at 15:24:55

I wonder why Sportsguy wanted to vote for Tom at some point when he was likely the most obvious town, this doesn't make sense... although he switched to April after that... without any really strong reasons :-/
I don't think I will vote no-lynch at the end of this day, we are 20 townies as for now, so it would be terrible for us if we lost some townies, furthermore when they haven't really contributed to the game...and it would be great to kill again another mafia.
Will give my decision in a few minutes, I will go to bed and won't be around for the very end of the day (this really sucks that it ends during the night when Europeans guys are sleeping...isn't there a possibly way to change the time when the days start/begin ? :-[)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:28:31

After re-examining the thread I have come up with irrefutable evidence that Scott is mafia. So far all he has been doing is throwing around random votes. He did that the last game, when he was a townie. This game, the odds are that he is some kind of mafia role, believe me - I calculated them out myself. His frenzy of posting can be tied to the fact that he is a person with low mental capacity, clearly a mafia figure in my eyes. Not everyone can be Al Capone. Aside from that he is easily the most useless player at the moment, and I'm not just saying that because I hate his "save the world" mentality. Well maybe I am, I don't know. If Scott wants to prove he is a townie I expect him to not only reveal his role with a good explanation but also do vote updates by the hour. Scott, the time is now!

unvote
vote: Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/04/09 at 15:31:39

unvote

vote sportsguy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:35:44

unvote
vote: Sportsguy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:36:16

Does anyone have a votecount total?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 15:36:30


40666376614A7C607B7A22130 wrote:
(this really sucks that it ends during the night when Europeans guys are sleeping...isn't there a possibly way to change the time when the days start/begin ? :-[)

There's really only a 3-4 hour window when all the Americans and all the Europeans will be awake, but during that time Lenny is probably asleep, so there's no perfect time. :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:37:17

After re-examining the thread I have come up with irrefutable evidence that MVT is mafia. So far all he has been doing is throwing around random votes. He didn't do that in the last game, because he wasn't playing. This game, the odds are that he is some kind of mafia role, believe me - I calculated them out myself. His horrible posting can be tied to the fact that he is a person with low mental capacity, clearly a mafia figure in my eyes. Not everyone can be Al Capone. Aside from that he is easily the most useless player at the moment, and I'm not just saying that because I hate his MKWiitard mentality. Well maybe I am, I don't know. If MVT wants to prove he is a townie I expect him to not only reveal his role with a good explanation but also do vote updates by the hour. MVT, the time is now!

unvote
vote: Adam_L

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/04/09 at 15:37:34

Adam: i'm back from holiday so if you can't continue playing i can replace your role instead. If you live until that time at least.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 15:38:09

That's why we have Goose Honko. Still, it's annoying.  We won't be able to change it because Lenny isn't around.  Maybe on another day we could say, lock the topic for x number of hours and reopen it to make it more convenient.  Still, it all depends on when/if a lynch is confirmed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:39:37

I'm a needledick, so maybe there's some merit in letting Ivo play.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:39:45

EVERYONE VOTE FOR ADAM L

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:40:55

Voting for me is like admitting you don't know who the mafia are,  [smiley=lolk.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 15:41:15

Vote:  AdamL

You are being annoying and you vote for yourself? :S  I don't get you at the moment.  Also, if you are town, MVT has something to answer for.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 15:41:43


597F7A6F7853657962633B0A0 wrote:
I wonder why Sportsguy wanted to vote for Tom at some point when he was likely the most obvious town, this doesn't make sense... although he switched to April after that... without any really strong reasons :-/
I don't think I will vote no-lynch at the end of this day, we are 20 townies as for now, so it would be terrible for us if we lost some townies, furthermore when they haven't really contributed to the game...and it would be great to kill again another mafia.
Will give my decision in a few minutes, I will go to bed and won't be around for the very end of the day (this really sucks that it ends during the night when Europeans guys are sleeping...isn't there a possibly way to change the time when the days start/begin ? :-[)


When did i want to vote for Tom?  I have only been emphasizing that his gut is wrong when it comes to me.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:42:00

^bold that shit Tim

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:42:27

I'm self-admitted needledick at least four times now AND told the vigilantes to kill me at night if they couldn't pin down a definitive mafia suspect.

All of that screams mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:43:18

Sportsguy your best defense right now would be to vote for Adam L.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:44:17

The way I see it, we think the mafia will let the annoying players slide through the game because they're causing havoc and confusion.  We've all said that aloud at one point or another.  What if, and this is pure theory I suppose, what if MVT is going against that to make you think he's innocent?

It would be a pro play, so maybe you should think twice before eliminating a townie.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:44:57

Adam I like how you edited your post where you said you were mafia phag.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:45:48

I totally did.

I love how you're afraid to swear you fucking kiddie.  Do your parents watch when you're on the computer?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:45:50

A terrible townie can be more dangerous than a mafia Adam.  You are useless.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 15:46:18

Fuck sake Adam, why do you post all that confusing shit then start all this defensive stuff?  Argh...  It's confusing for us, if you are a townie then please try and help.

Unvote


10 more minutes or so for me... :/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:48:05

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Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:48:26

Confusing shit?  None of it was confusing.  Instead of highlighting who I thought was mafia in one post, I posted them out in three separate paragraphs so people would be forced to read every single one and collect my points clearly.

MVT - Scott - Brutus, 3 mafia members.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 15:49:44

Even so MVT, he's got some serious multiple personality shite going on and it's annoying the hell out of me.  It's not clear cut, but then noone is at the moment it seems.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:49:57

Also, MVT, if you're killing me just to kill someone, wouldn't it be better to no-lynch?   ::)  Or even save my sorry ass for a night when the vigilantes can't decide who to kill, so they kill me?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 15:51:23

I'm leaving for the night, try not to let MVT the Mafia bandwagon you guys into killing some townies.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:52:04

Dear Town,

It is really simple.  First we band together and get rid of Adam L before the end of the day.  If he is mafia thank god.  If he is not mafia, than he is a needledick, who is actually confusing the town more than anything else.  Then at night, we get rid of Brutus.  He is in the same situation as Adam.  Worst case scenario is if we lose both of them and both of them turn out to be needledicks.  Well at least then the confusion will be gone and we can focus clearly on future targets.  These votes are necessary.

Sincerely,

MVT

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Syzygy on 03/04/09 at 15:52:22

Also, MVT, if you're killing me just to kill someone, wouldn't it be better to no-lynch?     Or even save my sorry ass for a night when the vigilantes can't decide who to kill, so they kill me?

^ This actually makes sense.  Anyway, I'm going to sleep now and I reached 1500 posts.  I'm not voting, I'm feeling stressed and unsure.  Good luck for the next few hours town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 15:54:59

one of these three (adam, mvt, brutus) needs to go. the first two because they are ruining the topic, and its making it so hard for the rest of us who are actually trying to get somewhere to get any ideas in, and brutus just cause hes useless to us if hes town, and even more useless if hes mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 15:58:09

Ruining the topic with logical reasoning?  Lol quiet your mafia ass down.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 15:58:41


59686D737C79090 wrote:
And MVT why are you railing on me to be killed exactly? You are the only one so far to call me out. Please explain. At the very least it might bring some new critical opinion to light. But we wouldn't want that, would we?  ::)

MVT that was a very insightful and convincing argument. Do go on.

Guys the last couple of pages are just fucking drivel. Get a hold of yourselves.

Vote Update:

6 Sportsguy (Kmacc, dragondragon, Fababu, Darius, In Hiding, Brutus)
4 Isthatagoodthing (Kevin Booth, sully, Detective Spril, Brutus)
3 Adam_L (Jabes, MVT, Adam_L)
1 karterfreak (Padzup)
1 Honko (oneshotbilly)
1 Detective Spril (Sportsguy)
2 No-Lynch (AlexPenev, Isthatagoodthing)

I'd like to mention that seven people have yet to vote. Stinson aside that means nearly a quarter of people in this game haven't voted! What?!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/04/09 at 16:12:56


7D47605C554075735B5B50605C5D5A53340 wrote:
Wow, great work town...
[/sarcasm]

Only a couple pages of posts in an entire day?  This is pitiful.  Sorry guys but having just one post from all of you is just too sad to put in words.


Sure, Europeans and Australians aren't like Americans who for some of them are actually posting too much crap (funny or not). Having to read SOOOOO MUCH of those posts each time I wake up just exhaust me. This loads of posts does make harder for town to find some interesting informations, and easier for the mafia. 2 pages of posts is already non negligeable for some hours... Sorry if it's offensive, but this is how I feel it each day [smiley=flush.gif]


Quote:
I cannot believe people are still wanting to have Tyler be the "victim" in Alex's plan.  I am 100% for it and will participate, but we should not do it on Tyler as he seems like he actually wants to contribute.

Er... lol wut ? In which way is he contributing exactly ? I do not considered someone throwing some suspicions on some people without strong reasons as contributing.


Quote:
BRUTUS is back to his previous ways, sprinkling in less than a post per page.  This is a load of CRAP, why isn't he spamming the heck out of this topic?

This is not bad at all, since he is just some clown posting random and voting for random players. Less spam for us...


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 16:16:31


55646D6D55606D64010 wrote:
Padzup I am not trying to kill you right now at all.  But your voting behavior is very disturbing.  Voting for karterfreak this round......I mean come on that is just retarded.

I never said you were trying to kill me (yet), but you've yet to defend yourself. If you have any reasonable evidence for me being suspect please say so.

How is voting Matt retarded? His actions are the opposite of what he would have done last game and I don't trust him. I also voted Tim and he hasn't even responded to my post. But it doesn't even matter because nobody gives a damn about what I have to say anyway :)

I'm not throwing around votes like others have been. Votes aren't random just because they aren't for the guy who's about to get lynched ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 16:16:34

ahhhhhhh you people are dumbies I can see a clear future without adam and brutus to distract the town.


edit towards Padzup now

Why should I defend myself further?  Why would you even bring me into the picture?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 16:19:22


645E79454C596C6A424249794544434A2D0 wrote:
SuperYoshi, please let us either vote Brutus now or vote No Lynch and use Brutus as the night victim.  You act first with whichever choice and I'll follow you.  Time is starting to tick away here.



No scott.  We vote Adam now and then take Brutus out overnight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 16:21:35

Because I have asked you to give a reason for listing me as a prime suspect. I have been in all of your lists without any reason.

If you can't do that then there is no point in keeping you here, you are no better than Clark right now.

I feel very strongly about not voting no-lynch. There are plenty of people worth taking down, mafia or not. It is disadvantageous in every possible outcome.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 16:22:43

padzup your day 1 and now votes are the only thing I have against you its that simple.

If you really care about the town you would help us eliminate Adam L right now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 16:24:56

Why the hell are people still supporting No Lynch?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 16:26:16

Everyone who is voting for Adam needs to vote for something else.
If Adam genuinely wanted to leave the game, he would PM Lenny and ask for a ModKill or ask that his role be given to Ivo.
There is no point voting him out within the game.

@Scott: everyone suspects Sportsguy already. You won't be able to change their mind from Sportsguy to Brutus. Best you can do is change how Sportsguy died... via lynch mob or via vigilantes. The second one gets us something useful. The first one makes us have to pick another target and that's not going to happen given the timeframe.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 16:34:49

ya I agree pev.... this is some retarded crap.  I am ignoring anything Andy L, and I am not voting for Sportsguy, period.  I can name plenty of people that are bigger suspects than him, and I got 3 people that I am almost sure are mafia and I'll know by dawn.  Ya, I don't think any of this is even worth responding to, so I'm keeping my vote.

Dear Mafia:

Please mute a townie that is being annoying

Salutations
Townie God

P.S..

Please don't night hump me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 16:38:06

heres what i think about adam:
hes going to florida soon, where he likely wont be able to get on here. if we keep him until then, his role will be given to ivo. now ivo would be a much better player imo, and if adam is town, then ivo would be able to help us out a good bit. but if adam is mafia, ivo might hurt us. so its a 50/50 if we dont lynch adam.
if we do lynch him, its still 50/50...damn...
i think we should wait to take any action on adam until we know if ivos gonna take his spot for sure or not. thats just my opinion.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 16:40:35

don't worry scott you are not the only annoying townie, and well if I want to lynch you then why would I asked for you to be silenced directly until the lynch fails?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/04/09 at 16:40:51


715C554860555E5546300 wrote:
Everyone who is voting for Adam needs to vote for something else.
If Adam genuinely wanted to leave the game, he would PM Lenny and ask for a ModKill or ask that his role be given to Ivo.
There is no point voting him out within the game.


Problem is that Lenny is not around and dunno if he will online before the deadline, but of course i wish Adam could be replaced or at least modkilled... :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/04/09 at 16:46:05

absolutely vital

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 16:53:08

LOL @ brute style mockery.  Ya, I'm in favor of a vigilante strike there.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/04/09 at 17:08:25

Pfff this thread is getting annoying now, and it's 2:00 AM for me.
Voting no-lynch at that point is ridiculous, seeing how many players aren't actually playing the game or trying to ruin it with bullshit and drama.
Well seeing that according to Adam we he will stop playing of the game, I don't see well why we would keep him here again...though I could have totally voted for Brutus or Sportsguy as well.

Vote : Adam L

For the vigs kill, either Brutus or Sportsguy will be ok, feel free for the town to choose either one of those 2 players.
I doubt any of them is mafia, but the way the game is going now is disturbing and piss me off [smiley=dead.gif]

Edited : we -> he

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 17:08:44

yep tons of dead wood out there... but even more hot air here.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 17:14:04

Thank god!!!!!  Awesome vote SuperYoshi!  You may have just turned the tides for the town's favor now!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/04/09 at 17:14:31

After reading the past few pages, I am unable to cast a vote. I'm not gonna be brainwashed and vote for someone with little to no reason. SportsGuy is starting to talk up more, which is good. He insists he is town, but how much do we trust him right now?

nstinson is just the biggest waste in this game. The topic has almost reached 40 pages, he has only made 4 posts, silenced or not. Thats an average of 1 post per 10 pages. And about 25 posts fit on one page. You do the math and realise how ridiculous this is.

I'm still in favour of my old game plan - lynch the quiet people. Quiet people have fuck all to offer us, so just get rid of them, for crying out loud. If I could vote for nstinson and get him lynched today, that would be great, but I highly doubt him getting nearly enough votes. If he survives untill tomorrow, I will continue to persist to get rid of him, because its annoying me to hell.

Not jumping back onto SportsGuy - as he is as good as dead, it seems. Unless we favour to jump onto the Brutus/Adam_L bandwagon (Brutus can just be ignored, no point wasting a lynch on him, and Adam_L is away, so whats the point), which I'm not going to do just yet. I'm holding onto my vote for now.

Scott, thank you for calming down and taking this as more of a game instead of a life threatening event. Its much easier to understand what you are talking about when you post in a calm, responsive manner.

MVT, try to lower the strange "COME ON EVERYONE! LETS DO THIS" style of posts, which is what Scott did last game, which fucked everyone the fuck over. He kept throwing orders about and people got really confused and it didn't help. Not saying don't do it at all, just don't forcefeed this into people.

I'm going to bed now, Its 1:10am and I have school. I'll check back tomorrow. Goodnight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 17:23:08

Unvote
Vote Adam



It seems this is the only way i have a chance of not being lynched.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 17:24:55

Why are we letting MVT lead us on a crazy bandwagon of Adam here?  On Day 1 everyone said "we'll keep a real close eye on MVT tomorrow" but now he's our leader?  Adam is leaving, and Ivootjes has offered to replace him.  If that happened, that would be another experienced player who would actually contribute to the game.  There are plenty of useless people here who don't have the potential to be replaced by an experienced player.  At least wait until Lenny comments on the possibility of replacement before everyone goes batshit insane.

Lynch Sportsguy, or Brutus, or Oneshot, or Stinson, or whoever else has proven they aren't able to contribute or could very well be mafia.  Don't lynch Adam while there's the chance we could be losing Ivootjes as a contributor to town by doing so.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 17:32:17

Scott, why do you only look at sully for not posting?  April and oneshot also haven't posted more than 5 times in this topic, but you mention sully. Also, you suddenly are completely agreeing with MVT, who is gradually adopting your posting habits.
MVT, you are taking this game too seriously as well. Why should we lynch Adam? I, for one, am fairly certain that he is town. Suddenly you and Scott are pushing for a lynch, even though it probably won't work.

Bottom line, I'm mafia. I'm fed up with this, and all of you are so gullible. Just lynch me already. It's obvious how many of you believed me by all the votes on Sportsguy, who admittedly was just too quiet. I'm surprised you aren't jumping on me already now that you can see how he is innocent. Now you are jumping on Adam, who is pulling a Brutus and messing with your minds. If you were smart you would just let Ivo replace him, who would probably be infinitely more helpful to you, as he brings a new perspective. Get it together if you want to win this.

* is tired of this...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 17:35:51

Did someone hack Howes' MB account?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 17:36:28

how about a novel idea?  Lets lynch someone that could be mafia???????? Is that an outrageous idea????  Why Lynch the one guy leaving.  He can't hurt us if he's away from the computer, unless you think he's lying and is really mafia and him saying he's leaving is just a ploy.  The only reason I would have for voting for him now is those stupid copy and paste messages that seemed almost automated with fill in the name and excuse string votes.  Outside of that, I have no reason to.  Well still 4 votes on Scotty Boy, so I'll stick around there, but Honko or other people other than sportsguy and the current BS bandwagon that you guys strongly want to lynch that you suspect are mafia I'm up for changing last minute.  

And if you wonder why I'm supporting not lynching sportsguy.... you know I honestly have no idea.  I just don't get the mafia vibe from him from what I've seen posted, but shit I could be wrong, but so far 1/1 on Lynch picks so what the hey.  Come on we can do better than a player that supposedly is not gonna be here.  Let the mafia get him at night.   I'm sure he's making a ploy cause he's really a valuable power role, right mafia?  See..... you guys get him, we get someone else :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 17:36:45

No, Robin, no one has hacked my account. I am posting this of my own free will. Everything has its purpose.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 17:36:56

O.o



Last time someone claimed they were mafia it was Adam and I was laughed at for believing him.  This looks for real though.

unvote
Vote: HOWES

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 17:39:06

howes, are you really mafia or are you saying that to get yourself out of the game cause youre tired of it?


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 17:39:39


4844514D4844425056151612250 wrote:
Scott, why do you only look at sully for not posting?  April and oneshot also haven't posted more than 5 times in this topic, but you mention sully.


If you read my previous post I plainly point those out for not posting as well, referencing oneshot as "sean," I only made the Sully post as I realized he has been off the map...AGAIN.

EDIT: Extol if he wanted out all he has to do is post a screenshot of his mafia role PM and topic will be locked for Goose to writeup.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 17:42:09

Consider this: with one less mafia in the game, the town will have that much more trouble finding the rest of us. You can self-destruct the rest of the days, but the sacrifice will be worth it in the long run. Hasn't anyone noticed that I rarely vote, only voting for Flo, MVT, and Sportsguy, each time unvoting later? Isn't that suspicious?
You must decide for yourself what you think of this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 17:42:38

ok thats true scott.

vote: Howes


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 17:43:11

Okay, even if Howes is trying to save Sean or Adam with his last post, he's admitting to be mafia and that he doesn't want to play anymore.  Early in the game I pointed out that he was doing the "scientific" approach Ivo used last game of posting lots of numbers and stats.  There is a good chance he's mafia, and if he's town he's obviously totally fed up.  PLEASE let us take care of him and Adam can be the night character.

By the way April was present in chat and I specifically requested her to make a post after this was up with "April make a post" and she said "In the topic" and I said "yes," and then she said she had to go make some food or something.  Doesn't make sense that she wouldn't post right away.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 17:45:30

I'm not buying Howes' porridge here.  Sounds like a gun owner orgy to me!  I would rather stay out of this sausage fest!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 17:46:56

Gun owner orgy?  What do you mean?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 17:57:21

If he's gun owner, all the more reason to kill him during the day when it doesn't hurt anyone.

Vote: Howes

I don't see any downside here, which is kind of confusing, but oh well.  There's no reason not to vote him, unless I guess if he's cockbite.  But if he is then he's just screwing his own team and that's stupid.

Vigilantes: Please don't listen to Scott, he's being retarded.  Don't kill Adam unless Lenny says he won't replace him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 17:59:12

Yes if he's getting replaced, sadly we won't hear from Lenny until the start of Day 3.

Then we need to pick a night candidate, Robin who do you suggest? Brutus?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 18:03:17

Oneshot would be my personal choice.  I never finished reading through the topic though so I'm really not the best one to decide.

I'll be in class until the day ends most likely, unless I get really lucky and get home right before it.  Don't do anything stupid, town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 18:04:07

I'm ok with a Brutus Night Action.   and I think I figured out what Howes means.  I can't reveal the whole thing, but in other words, DONT LYNCH ADAM.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 18:06:12


6E5F56566E5B565F3A0 wrote:
Alex I don't know what the hell you are thinking.

Deficiency on your end, no doubt.


Quote:
We have been very aggressive.  You seem to be extremely conservative.

Let me explain why my suggestions are good.

We lynch someone:
- that person dies. Bye bye.
- vigilantes are able to act tonight.... but who know what they'll do.
- everyone else does random hunch things
- Day3 begins back at square one, with finger pointing and bandwagons.

Alternatively, we trade the lynch for a vig kill:
- the same person dies. Bye Bye. It doesn't matter if it's Sportsguy or someone equally dodgy. It just has to be clear to the town who it is so that people can switch to nolynches and still know the victim.
- at night, the town roles contribute to something useful instead of random play
- Tom can protect at least 1 person at night, simply by naming a player he fancies and threatening to jail that player. He doesn't actually need to jail them, because the threat alone should be enough to repel the mafia. That's 2 protectors tonight.


Let me explain why your suggestion is not quite as good.

Your preferred action is to lynch Adam, because he's been saying he's town, and the aim of the game is to lynch townies, and because there's no chance that if he really wanted to die he would PM Lenny, and even if Lenny got that PM, Lenny would never decide to modkill Adam at the close of Day2, which would be at the same time as the obviously better plan of us wasting the lynch mob on Adam to achieve exactly the same result.



Quote:
You almost appear lazy to me.

But I've obviously put more thought into my Day2 posts than you, so if I'm lazy you must not even be playing  ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:07:15

Alex why aren't you voting for Howes?

* gives Alex time to see what Howes has said.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 18:12:19

Why not lynch Howes and do Alex's plan on someone else?  No lynch is not a requirement for the rest of the plan to work.  And no lynch is a waste.

Ok, really leaving now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 18:12:53

Penev sadly is one of the few people making any sense around here.  So who should we "threaten" to protect?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:14:31

Yes I agree with Robin.  Howes "coming out" now gives us someone to KILL in the Day, we just have to pick the proper night target.

START VOTING FOR HOWES AS THERE ARE LESS THAN FOUR HOURS LEFT.

I think the night target should be Brutus or Adam, and some people speak against Adam so should we use Brutus or someone else?  Someone just show me a strong reason why someone should be the night camper for us and we will do our act on him.

Kevin you are making no sense now.  Why haven't you voted for Howes?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 18:15:06

Not going to vote Howes. If people believe him, they're going to stack all the votes on him. My vote won't make a difference and I don't bandwagon unless it's to split votes and determine vote patterns. Voting Howes won't determine any patterns.


Nevertheless, consider a possibility that Howes is a regular cunt who is trying to sacrifice himself for a mafia power, the person who is currently leading the vote tally. Who is currently leading the vote tally?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:16:14

Sportsguy is leading the vote tally.  We kill Howes now and Sportsguy or Brutus or Adam or SOMEONE can be the night target.  I am supporting your plan Alex, but we NEED to get enough votes on Howes to make this work.  Time is short and it might come down to the wire.


Howes seems to be kind of defending Adam, Sully, and Tyler with his latest posts, Alex.  If he's just a cunt we'll go after one of Adam, Sully, Sporty next.  Pick someone for the night stuff and vote Howes now.  It's much better than a No Lynch if he's a mafia member, silly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 18:17:25

good question these votes are split like a mother fucker.  I can't make heads or tails of all the hot air posts going on.  Lots of people with attention complexes me thinks.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:18:24

Kevin: Look at this.


Quote:
Quote from Howes:
I AM MAFIA I GIVE UP


How can you not vote for that guy.  He is giving away his life.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:21:52

Howes has 3 votes right now.  I think Sportsguy has 6 and Adam has 5.  It will take one person from each of those stances to switch to Howes, plus someone else, to get him in the lead.  Let's get this done.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 18:23:07

Are there going to be enough people on who are willing to switch votes before the time runs out?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 18:23:19

According to Lacey's program, the vote count is:
Sportsguy: 6
Adam: 5
Scott: 3
Howes: 3
Honko: 1
karterfreak: 1
no lynch: 1

This is kind of pathetic.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:24:29

Extol: There should be.  Just need to get people to do it.

Those around who haven't done so yet are Brutus, April, Padz, Alex, MVT, etc etc etc.  There are PLENTY.


Howes: That looks about right, I went off that as well.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 18:27:07

the I am mafia thing has to be a trick.  Seriously the timing reaks.  I now question anyone that wants to blindly go with this and charge them with misinformation.  I will be voting accordingly the next day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 18:30:28

i can see that adam saying hes mafia might be a trick, but howes sounds like he just wants to be gone....

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/04/09 at 18:32:07


18220539302510163E3E350539383F36510 wrote:
By the way April was present in chat and I specifically requested her to make a post after this was up with "April make a post" and she said "In the topic" and I said "yes," and then she said she had to go make some food or something.  Doesn't make sense that she wouldn't post right away.


Umm, sorry I was hungry? Really, I was, and my pancakes and eggs are delicious...about as awesome as you trying to get me to unvote you in the IRC chat ;)


Quote:
[20:37] `: April
[20:37] `: First
[20:37] `: You must post
[20:37] `: Else I will kill you
[20:37] *** Ivootjes has signed off IRC (Quit: Mario Kart Rules!).
[20:38] intricalangel: in the topic?
[20:38] `: Yes
[20:38] intricalangel: i will as soon as i'm done eating
[20:38] `: With a proper vote
[20:38] `: I mean...look at this shit
[20:38] intricalangel: :P
[20:38] intricalangel: scott, i'm not discussing it in here
[20:38] intricalangel: i'm not trying to get modkilled
[20:38] intricalangel: i'll put my thoughts in the post
[20:38] intricalangel: but no outside discussion


(Sorry sweetheart, but I'm not letting you get me modkilled. I know you're targeting me and all, coming up with essentially bullshit "reasons" why you think I'm mafia, but no, I'm not.)

Anyway, that aside, I'm against the no-lynch idea too, because it is a waste. But I don't want to vote Howes either because I just thought that was a really random "confession" and that he likely just wants out. If anything, he's a cunt protecting someone. He would be a better night target than lynch imo.

As for Sportsguy randomly voting me: there's nothing else to go by, other than gut feeling? I mean, I know I've generally been quiet most of the time, but there wasn't any reason for him to target me.

Despite that, I'm keeping my vote on Scott, because of the reasons I posted about when I voted him, as well as this IRC shit (if it doesn't get him modkilled). Why try to get me to talk about mafia in IRC and get me modkilled if you're not mafia?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 18:40:53

You are all retarded, I don't even know where to start.

DO NOT LYNCH ADAM. DO NOT LYNCH HOWES. DO NOT VOTE NO-LYNCH. DO NOT FOLLOW ALEX'S PLAN.

I hope the power roles know what to do tonight and that they see that buried underneath the bullshit is legitimately useful information. Read between the lines here, guys.

Booth knows his shit and I commend him for that. Meanwhile:

MVT you have done absolutely nothing to help your case and you seem to be unable to defend any actions you take. Town was suspicious as shit of you Day 1 but you've somehow gotten the attention off of you and onto literally everyone else. Why does nobody else suspect MVT?

Votes flocked to Sportsguy nice and early while MVT stood back and let the shit hit the fan. He has accused people without giving reasons much like Clark did. If you argue that Brutus does the same you are idiots, his reasons are clear, he just doesn't state them.

I have had it with MVT and is trying to bandwagon people like everyone else.

Everyone: Make your own goddamn decision for once. Is that too hard to ask?

There are exactly as many people who have yet to vote as the number of votes on Sportsguy. We can literally lynch anyone we like so we need to actually decide and not just assume what we've been told for the past three days has been completely correct.

Sword you are dumb for not voting but at least you didn't decide to vote a token suspect.

Matt still isn't fucking responding which pisses me right off.

unvote

Let's talk. Why should we keep MVT around?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/04/09 at 18:46:22

I'm not trying to defend him, whatever role he is, but he posted about having family problems, and he had told me something about losing his internet a couple nights ago, and I've not seen him on today, so that probably explains that. IDK if he's still in, but he may or may not have internet atm.

Edit to add: This may not need explaining, but I'm referring to karterfreak here.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:55:42

What? Lenny isn't going to modkill anyone from IRC for that lol.  Btw I wasn't trying to do that anyway, I wasn't even telling on you.  I was just saying you were very reluctant to post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 18:56:56


1B3526393E123F3F2438500 wrote:
the I am mafia thing has to be a trick.  Seriously the timing reaks.  I now question anyone that wants to blindly go with this and charge them with misinformation.  I will be voting accordingly the next day.


A trick? Of what sort.  I do not understand how that could be a trick other than....it is a mafia person or else a person who doesn't give a shit at all and wants to be dead.  How can it be a trick, are you out of your mind?

EDIT: This is a lot of BS going on.  People are all ignoring who should really be suspects (quiet people and those who say HEY IM A FUCKING MAF), and they are just voting for me and Tyler.  Stop it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/04/09 at 19:03:15

That's not being "reluctant" to post -- that's my stomach saying "eat something or I will eat you, you bitch." Plus, I wanted to give things another read-over before posting again, so that my post could have a bit more substance.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 19:04:12

That's fine April. Thanks for posting three times instead of just once and running away.

Don't understand how you think I'm trying to get you modkilled...I purposely did NOT post the whole convo ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/04/09 at 19:06:07

lol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 19:20:07

It doesn't matter to me who is lynched during the day (other than me).  For the night action i think it should be Brutus or Oneshot.  Mainly because their posts aren't useful and they have been posting plenty everywhere but in this topic.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 19:27:26

Yes I totally agree, Tyler, but we NEED PEOPLE TO ACT.

Please in the name of whatever being you worship or in the name of Mark Jones if he's the only "God" you believe in, take your votes off of Tyler and I and just vote on someone like HOWES ADAM BRUTUS or ONESHOT.  Obviously they are all not mafia but some of them are, and Tyler and I are not.  Just don't kill people who are towns for no reason when they confirm they are town. Kill the ones who are shady as hell.


LESS than three hours remain here, people.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 19:34:29

As I hope you have figured out by now, I am not, in fact, mafia. My ruse appears to have worked, although I may not be trusted now, it was worth it. The trick, Scott, is to see how people react to the story. For example, what decent mafia member tells the town who not to lynch in their confession post? That part was supposed to be my way of telling you that you were on the wrong track.

At first, that post was just my frustration about how easily the town's opinions were changing. First sportsguy, then Adam, and obviously now me. You were trying to lynch anyone that vaguely implied that they could be mafia, without a second thought. I may have confused some people in the beginning, but some caught on quite quickly. These people are the suspicious ones: Booth, Penev, and Padzup. Scott, you are safe, no mafia member would be pushing me that hard to be lynched. Honko is also safe for being confused over my initial post (That reaction was  [smiley=lolk.gif]). Extol is now suspicious again, for bandwagoning.

If someone was mafia, they obviously would be uneasy with voting for me, as they would know that I was lying, and would fear being discovered if I was actually lynched. If someone was not mafia, they would only be suspicious if they were a cop, and knew I wasn't lying, or if they were very analytical and deduced that it was a trap. Booth is the first one to think this, which makes me suspect that he is mafia. In addition, Booth has contributed little to this game beside this thought that I might be lying. Extol voted for me relatively quickly, which could be taken to mean that he is mafia wanting to bandwagon for an easy kill. Penev and Padzup could go either way, as they had booth to help them along, but haven't exhibited many outright mafia tendencies.

The only way that I could pull this off is if no one knew about it. It adds another dimension to the game. I only wish that I had done this earlier, so that I could get reactions out of more people.

In total, I believe that Adam is innocent, and that someone else should be lynched. I've already proven how easily people can change votes based on a 'confession', so why can't we change them based on logical reasoning? So who shall it be, Extol, Booth, or someone else entirely?

sorry scott, you just got punk'd  8-)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 19:41:42

:(
Damn.  You had me totally fooled.  I believe you 100% though now and I see exactly what your point was.

Booth has been odd as hell but that's just how he is.  The problem now, Howes, is THERE IS NO FUCKING TIME LEFT.  How are we supposed to act in two hours here?  You need to and I need to and we all need to LATCH on to a candidate, and FAST.  Action is needed or else you will kill a townie by Day via lynch (Sportsguy or I), or else Adam who is probably town as well.  Please let us find a candidate and stick to it.  I will put my vote on Brutus for now, but we just need enough people to all vote on one person. If the consensus is a different person I'll go with that as well, as we just need to get these votes off of obvious townies.

unvote
Vote: Brutus

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 19:43:32

heres how i saw it howes. you are one of the more serious and helpful posters here. when you made that post saying you were mafia, i thought you actually meant it. I myself was getting fed up with all the bs from adam, mvt, brutus, and sometimes scott, so i thought that you felt the same way, only you were more fed up with it. my reaction was one of "he looks like he really wants out, so hes giving himself up"
granted, im not one of the smarter townies, so i might not have looked into it deeper, but i took your confession seriously and voted accordingly. i wouldnt say i was bandwagoning, i acted of my own accord.

unvote

now im back here again..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 19:52:57

Whatever, this day is pretty much lost anyway.

vote: Brutus

edit: I'm probably going to be dead by Friday... Mafia won't like that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:02:48

Sorry that you think I'm mafia because I could see what you were up to. If I blew your cover, I apologize. But I think Booth did as good a job as any in doing that as well.

I agree that today has been a real waste of everyone's time. I don't think we should give up in trying to come to a decision as to who to lynch. Brutus is pretty useless for now though so unless he starts to cough up a bit there's no point keeping him around.

Vote: Brutus

Keep in mind that if everyone starts bandwagoning on Brutus I'm taking off my vote.

Anyway if we're going to vote for Brutus we may as well talk about exactly why we're doing it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:06:18

Alex said that there was no point in trying to lynch Brutus because "nobody will change their minds." However MVT said that it would be a good idea to do just that.

I'm conflicted since Alex has seemed a bit shady today but MVT has been ridiculous lately. Any help here?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 20:06:28

Unvote
Vote Brutus


Reason 1: starts a new thread about a new mafia game, but doesn't contribute in this one.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:19:41

FINALLY, you guys came to your senses, it was about time!

unvote

Vote: Brutus!!!!!!


FOR THE WIN!

Oh yes, and about figuring it out fast... come on it's dead obvious.  Who the fuck says I am mafia, and who the hell gets tired of the game just before the night?  Just logically flawed.  Now obviously being fast on the draw and trying explain it off logically doesn't clear me of mafia stink, but maybe when the mafia offs me tonight that will prove it :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:22:17

thank you, thank you very much.  Ya I might be wrong this time, but out of all the other choices that will actually get the votes to be eliminated, you be the one.  I don't want to vote for Adam, I don't want to vote for Sportsguy, so that just leaves you, since there is not enough scott or no lynch votes out there.  Rather have waited for a night action for you, but hey, gotta do what we gotta do.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:25:13

yes, congrats you are the new bait!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:25:40

Well Brutus if that's your only defense there isn't much that anyone can do to help you.

I'm concerned that nobody wants to discuss anything else after this point. We can still talk even if we know who we want to lynch :-/

Also that's five votes versus six for Sportsguy.

e: holy shit, brutus deleted his post. for the record:

e2: removed since brutus is technically right.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:28:12

I vote for a MODKILL for that if he doesn't get lynched.  Deleting a post is serious grounds for that.  Yes, he called me an idiot :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:30:27

Ok fine then.  Let it be stated the Brutus called me an idiot but realized he was an idiot instead and quickly deleted it so only a few people realized he was an idiot instead of me :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:33:30

quit deleting your posts.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:33:41


Quote:
Is it that hard to make one post or are you just goin for the postcount?!

Is it that hard to make one post or are you just goin for nobody seeing it?!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:34:24

....booth are you deleting brutus' posts?!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:35:33

no actually I haven't been.  His deleting of posts is pissing me off.  Please lynch him!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 20:36:20


4F7E7B656A6F1F0 wrote:
DO NOT LYNCH ADAM. DO NOT LYNCH HOWES. DO NOT VOTE NO-LYNCH. DO NOT FOLLOW ALEX'S PLAN.
... make your own goddamn decision for once ...
... we need to actually decide ...

You should try buying the product you're selling. You want people to make up their minds, yet you want to talk about MVT and come to some agreement. What you basically said is "no, don't follow any of the existing plans. Instead, let me introduce a new plan and let's all follow my plan and make MVT a 5th option."

I've alerady explained why voting for Adam is stupid. But unless you can justify why the other three are not good options, you won't be taken seriously. Posting in caps doesn't make you special. Are you worried that if the town powers focus on the same person, the mafia will get their kill?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:36:59

lol, sorry but that aint working.  Penev and other board mods know the truth :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:43:04

ok for the record since he deleted it all.  I made my first post, and he said "idiot".  I made my 2nd post and he said "what" then I made my 3rd post and proclaimed him the new bait.  He didn't like that so he has started this deleting all his posts game.  LOL pulling all the stops out I see.  yes this guy needs to get lynched then banned from this thread.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:45:44

not at all mr brute force!  Bring it on!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:46:13


Quote:
You should try buying the product you're selling. You want people to make up their minds, yet you want to talk about MVT and come to some agreement. What you basically said is "no, don't follow any of the existing plans. Instead, let me introduce a new plan and let's all follow my plan and make MVT a 5th option."

I've alerady explained why voting for Adam is stupid. But unless you can justify why the other three are not good options, you won't be taken seriously. Posting in caps doesn't make you special. Are you worried that if the town powers focus on the same person, the mafia will get their kill?

Finally, somebody challenges me on something. Thank you :)

What I will say is that I'm not making a plan or telling anyone to follow it in the sense that you are. I admit I got a bit flustered because I was frustrated but I stand by the fact that I disagree with you and your "plan-of-awesome". But overall you're right, I wasn't sure if it would come off that way but I guess it did.

Mafia is going to get their kill regardless but we're sitting ducks if we all concentrate on one person.

And Booth if you're deleting posts you're dead.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:47:43

like I said Pad, ask Penev... he has access to all the MB crap, he would know if I deleted posts.  If you trust Brutus, maybe I'll vote for you instead.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 20:48:29

Booth wtf man you're crazy.  Stop spamming.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:48:56

I don't trust Brutus any more than I do you, but I wouldn't be surprised if a mod was deleting posts.

Is there an impartial mod outside of the game who can check the logs then?

Adam: He's replying to Brutus' deleted posts.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:49:00

what the hell, now he deleted his own vote for me.... he asked if I had something to hide, and so I said, bring it on :)  Man this is the strangest tactic alive, but what the hey, I'll get sucked in, why not?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/04/09 at 20:49:02

Now he deleted his vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 20:49:19

At one point, Brutus voted for Booth, which tied him with sportsguy at 5 votes apiece. :-?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 20:49:32

If Brutus is removing posts then he should be modkilled.

I don't think Brutus is much of a team player. I wouldn't want to try and kill him at night. If he was the granny I can imagine that he would not tell the town about it just so he can point and laugh and the people he kills. If you guys want Brutus gone, lynch him, but I don't recommend using him for a night rendezvous.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by karterfreak on 03/04/09 at 20:49:44

Ok, so I practically begged to use my mothers laptop to catch up on the topic. What april said is true, I didn't have internet all day today because of family problems currently going on.

I'm caught up with the topic now, but I'm unsure of who I want to vote for right now, even though its at the end of the day, so, I might as well throw my vote somewhere.

Vote: No Lynch

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:50:14

LOL Brute, I highly doubt they will all cover for me.  Hell I make fun of Penev all the time publically I won't be getting any coverage from him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 20:52:08

For the record, I haven't touched any of Brutus's posts in this topic. I haven't seen the posts in question, either. Maybe someone is pulling something.  :-?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by sully on 03/04/09 at 20:52:30

Unvote
Vote: Brutus


1) Stop breaking the rules
2) I hate you
3) There's always a chance you could be mafia, good enough for me


Anyways, maybe I'll be more in touch with things on Day 3, but I'm not about to go read 20 pages of posts to learn stuff about Day 2, my life is too busy atm for that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Brutus on 03/04/09 at 20:52:37

Fuck this, I'm going to bed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:52:42

SHHHHH Howes..... I was hoping he wouldn't notice that.  I was trying to get him to vote for me for that reason..... damn it.... ok the gig is up.  I'm done.  GL all.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 20:53:25

vote: brutus

were supposed to respect the rules of the game, and mafia or not, brutus is not respecting the rules. if this vote doesnt do him in, i hope he gets modkilled. I cant keep playing a game if someones going to delete all their votes and play like this.
if its a mod thats deleting his posts, i hope you get lynched next. some of us want to play this game the way its meant to be played.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:55:35

Oh yes, just cause all this crap happened, LENNY make not that Brutus' official vote is for me Kevin Booth, and even if he deleted it, Honks thingie says so, so make sure to keep his vote on me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 20:55:53

So someone else is probably deleting Brutus's posts, but you're going to lynch Brutus for deleting his own posts?

Think that one through a bit more.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:56:12


Quote:
SHHHHH Howes..... I was hoping he wouldn't notice that.  I was trying to get him to vote for me for that reason..... damn it.... ok the gig is up.  I'm done.  GL all.

What?

Okay, that's it. We need to establish that deleted posts do not count as edits. Otherwise this game is going to turn to shit.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Howes on 03/04/09 at 20:57:17

Brutus is at seven votes either way, so unless something stupid happens, he's getting lynched.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:57:58

well since he went to bed and is not playing by rules... it's safe I guess... as Howes said, he eliminated a key vote off a guy that could have saved him from being lynched but I don't think he cares.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 20:59:33

Or if a mod is deleting his posts then he's being lynched without cause!

Get Cooper to check the threadlog and post. Until then I don't believe either of you.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 20:59:37


4F796A6C6465544D6479686E0B0 wrote:
So someone else is probably deleting Brutus's posts, but you're going to lynch Brutus for deleting his own posts?

Think that one through a bit more.



Na, I already put my vote in before that.  After he deleted "idiot" I voted he gets modkilled and banned from this section of the MB for doing it.  I got corrected by someone cause it made the 15 min rule, even though that wasn't the nature of it, then he just starts posting like crazy and deleting to make it look like I scrolled.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 21:00:55


6756534D4247370 wrote:
Mafia is going to get their kill regardless but we're sitting ducks if we all concentrate on one person.

As I explained, a few of the roles involved with The Plan cannot stop the mafia's night kill. We would not be sitting ducks, exactly, because the protector is free to act and choosing no-lynch allows Tom to save someone.

Suppose there are 4 people that you consider to be crucial townies that should be protected, and you're afraid that throwing the vigs and roleblocker into The Plan will prevent them from blocking the mafia, risking the lives of those 4 people. Well, Tom can threaten to protect 2 of them (he will do so publicly so it's known who he wants to protect) and the protector will choose one of the remaining two. So all 4 of these critical townies become unsafe targets for the mafia.

Do the maths? I think this is better protection for the core town members than if the vigs and blocker were free tonight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 21:02:35

Not you Booth, I think I was talking to Extol?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 21:02:36

Okay my posts are getting edited now. Booth just added shit to the end of my post.

Not cool, man. What the fuck is going on here?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:04:02

crap where did your quote button go.... that was supposed to be quote NOT modify... I'll take that out

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:05:02


1524213F3035450 wrote:
Or if a mod is deleting his posts then he's being lynched without cause!

Get Cooper to check the threadlog and post. Until then I don't believe either of you.


Now Cooper WOULD back me up, so that would not be who you'd want to choose for that confirmation.  Gotta get a mod that doesn't like me, like Penev, or heck Jones could work.  We spar all the time :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 21:06:15

@adam, i was voting for brutus cause i think he was deleting his own posts, but if for some reason he wasnt, i hope whoever was gets lynched next.
sorry if my wording made it look like i was blaming someone other than brutus, i think he deleted his own posts.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 21:06:21

How about Etch?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 21:06:29

That is hillarious if it is either intentional or unintentional.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:17:49

ya, I made things worse by trying to quote, and hitting modify instead.  Now I made an ass of myself, lol.  Oh well, making things interesting.....

oh yes. keeping my vote on Brutus obviously.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 21:24:42

Okay well the Day ends in about 30 minutes so if anyone has anything else to say feel free to post it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 21:30:23

Looks like The Plan won't be played tonight. So random hunches it is?  ::)
No doubt what the mafia would have wanted.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:32:21

ya you can thank brutus for that.  we could have had a couple last second vote changes otherwise, but oh well, day 3 we vow to play better.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 21:32:53

Well if you convinced the power roles to do it earlier I don't think their minds will have changed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 21:33:17

unvote
vote: Sportsguy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 21:33:32

What's the vote count?
vote: Sportsguy

Does that mess shit up?  :-?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:35:40

Why are we voting Sportsguy?  I think we ought to kill Brutus by day, right now, and then use SEAN SULLIVAN as the night target.

Sean clearly posted he has too much going on, and I doubt he'll be able to finish things off.

Brutus is as good as dead.  The last two here who voted for Sporty should switch to Brutus.

Let us use the PLAN of Alex on SEAN SULLIVAN tonight.  Let's have 5 people post confirming Sean will be used, to make sure everyone that has a power role will see this is the majority opinion.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 21:37:28

What the fuck are you on about?

If you were concerned about killing off someone who wouldn't be around to post much in the next few days of play, you'd kill me.  You're more concerned with killing off a potential mafia-wrecker, aren't you Scott?  You just outed yourself man.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:38:09

Okay we will do it on Adam?  Someone just confirm someone who is going to be the partyboy for tonight so I know what the fuck to do.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 21:38:37

unvote

Crazy shit in the past few hours.  This game is going way downhill.

Alex, I still don't think No Lynch is a good part of the plan.  All it does is give us Jailkeeper's power, but that's more likely to end up messing up the plan than to help us out.  He's more likely to block one of the power roles that are part of the plan than to protect the person getting killed.  If one of the power roles that was supposed to be watched is blocked, and a mafia party pooper joins the watchparty, then we'd have a real problem because we'd see the numbers added up and assume the party pooper was town.  I think The Plan has potential, but the No Lynch part is not a good idea especially when there are multiple people we're confident we don't want.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:38:57

Okay this is fucking insane and I swear to god I had nothing to do with it.  I went to watch a movie and all the sudden shit started flying.  When I returned there is 30 minutes left and everything is falling apart.

TOWN GET YOUR FUCKING ACT TOGETHER.

Booth you've gone off your rocker man.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 21:40:05

Sully? That's pretty random, Scott. I've been telling you The Plan since Day1. If it takes until the dying minutes for the volatile-minded who change their minds every two minutes, maybe we shouldn't play it. If Sully isn't here when the decision is made, he can't say if he's not the granny or one of the powers involved.

Very suspicious suggestion from you.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:42:22

that is pretty random you notice his randomness.

unvote
vote: Alex Penev


Mod to bold.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 21:44:47

this game is falling apart.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:44:48

Ah christ sakes here I am to save the day.  I just caught up reading everything.  This is getting out of control.

Unvote

Vote Brutus

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:45:06

so you don't want me to vote for penev and you'd rather me vote for you?  Ok

unvote
Vote: isthatagoodthing

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:45:24

There are 15 minutes remaining.  I hope there is a mod ready to lock the topic right on the button.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:46:22

sure I can lock.... Sweet Brutus has a chance, time to change again.

unvote

vote: Brutus

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 21:47:11


103B3C203D520 wrote:
All it does is give us Jailkeeper's power, but that's more likely to end up messing up the plan than to help us out. He's more likely to block one of the power roles that are part of the plan than to protect the person getting killed

He won't be protecting the person getting killed, he will be deterring the mafia from killing someone worth keeping. The other townies are expandable. And if you're saying that the person worth saving is one of the powers involved, that means the people talking the most are these powers. That would be silly.

If Brutus/Sportsguy die, should the other person be used as the rendezvous?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:47:22

SAVE THE GAME AND GET RID OF BRUTUS

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:48:32

yes and then please ban him from general discussion until the game is done!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:48:45

get rid of brutus NOW  I think we need 1 final vote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 21:49:38

If Brutus is town, MVT and Kevin and goners tomorrow.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:50:51


614C455870454E4556200 wrote:
If Brutus/Sportsguy die, should the other person be used as the rendezvous?


I will SECOND that, let us try to get THREE more people to agree on this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:50:52

I am a goner?  Lol!!!  I would rather see brutus go than sportsguy any day!  The only reason I changed my vote from Adam is to save sportsguy.  I also just finished reading the past 7 pages of posts 5 minutes ago, so I had to act fast.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:51:33

I did not even start the brutus bandwagon Penev ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:51:39

maybe I just like a lot of blood.  I'm actually not sure if Brutus is mafia or not, but I know he's lame for going on that deleting spree after I totally made fun of him, so that is enough for me.  

Oh yes, I may need protection tomorrow.  I have a "special" role.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:52:50

There are 8 minutes remaining.  Please will three other townies confirm that last bit penev said

IF BRUTUS/SPORTY DIE NOW, THE OPPOSITE ONE WILL BE THE NIGHT RENDEZVOUS

It's simple, just confirm that so we have a SOLID AND FIRM target for night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 21:53:10


1C3138250D3833382B5D0 wrote:
If Brutus/Sportsguy die, should the other person be used as the rendezvous?

I don't know if we can work this out with so many people asleep and only 8 minutes left, but what do the people here think?  Do we try the plan with the other one of these two who doesn't get lynched?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:53:30

Penev is the most anti-sportsguy here.  He has started contributing for the town and making sense, yet you still accuse him of mafia.  Why should you not be accused of mafia too?  It seems like whenever someone disagrees with your "Awesome" plans, they are flamed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 21:53:44

Unbelievable, we're walking into a massacre.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:54:16

6 minutes until brutus is killed?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:54:46

I really feel sportsguy is clean.  I could be wrong, but it just doesn't seem like he'd have played it this way if he wasn't.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:55:01

Kill adam tonight vigilantes!!!!!  be smart

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 21:55:22

I don't think it's possible to organize this in the 5 minutes we have left.  I understand the plan's purpose better now, and we should set it up from the beginning tomorrow.  For this night, the risk is too high that our relevant powers are already asleep and wouldn't follow the plan, imo.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 21:55:39

The chances of everyone agreeing to this plan right now being town are SLIM to NONE.  The mafia obviously has to have a presence in agreeing with this plan lest they are found out and we just follow that connection to others who didn't agree.

If the mafia's in agreeance with our plan, it obviously must do no real damage to them, which means why are we doing it in the first place?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:56:27

ya guess we gotta vow to play better tomorrow.... and yes ban brutus!  Vigis.... you guys are the bomb.. pick well.... I say honko :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 21:56:52

You want to accuse me of being mafia, MVT? I think Kevin, Brutus, Howes and Tom have already beat you to it.

@Honko: the powers have all night to read the topic and perform their night action. They don't need to perform it within the next 5 munutes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:57:13

Brutus or Sportsguy is lynched now.

The opposite one is instantly our target for night. Every townie with a role other than protector uses it to visit that person.  The watcher knows all these people and will be able to come clean tomorrow.

It's simple and straightforward, I agree with it.

All we have to do is have enough people post confirming this will happen.  This will ensure that EVERY town who has a role will follow through.  We need to trust this will happen.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:57:31

Good luck vigs

Goodnight brutus RIP

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 21:57:42

lol Booth

Vote Sportsguy because I think he's a better choice than Brutus and there's only 3 minutes left

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:58:06

well we really have no choice but to trust.  No time left.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:58:09

The plan doesn't need to be enacted in 5 minutes, we simply need to confirm A: that we're doing it and B: that it will be on the opposite of Brute/Sporty.


Please three people post saying you confirm this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:58:12


0F222B361E2B202B384E0 wrote:
You want to accuse me of being mafia, MVT? I think Kevin, Brutus, Howes and Tom have already beat you to it.

@Honko: the powers have all night to read the topic and perform their night action. They don't need to perform it within the next 5 munutes.


more arrogance...haha



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 21:58:12

Yeah that was me Scott and I know know (about the logs)

This game is fucked. I'm keeping my vote on Brutus just so nothing retarded happens and after this fiasco we can't keep him.

If he's town mvt/booth's suspicion skyrockets.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/04/09 at 21:58:13

brutus is expendable, but ive been saying all along i dont think sportsguy is mafia. but its not my choice if he dies tonight, so i cant do anything about it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:58:58

I didnt start the brutus bandwagon but I was happy to jump on.

MY PLAN was to lynch adam in the day and brutus at night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 21:59:02

Okay SPORTY is in the lead in votes this looks like Brutus will be the night person.


PLEASE JUST SOME PEOPLE CONFIRM WE WILL DO THE PLAN TONIGHT ON BRUTUS>

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 21:59:08

err nevermind on the nothing retarded part.

whatever. maybe Day 3 will be better.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Honko on 03/04/09 at 21:59:17


123F362B03363D3625530 wrote:
You want to accuse me of being mafia, MVT? I think Kevin, Brutus, Howes and Tom have already beat you to it.

@Honko: the powers have all night to read the topic and perform their night action. They don't need to perform it within the next 5 munutes.

But will they agree?  And do we know they won't be walking into the granny?  If everyone doesn't do the plan together, it loses its effectiveness (and obvious its not very effective if our powers all die)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 21:59:35

locky locky

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 21:59:40

SAVE SPORTSGUY HE IS INNOCENT!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 21:59:59

Sweet, three townies are going to die by the next morning!  Good job guys!

And not to mention that you're killing off two of the shittier townies, which is good in itself, but also lets the mafia tighten their crosshair on the better players.

Good job crew!  You didn't fuck up or anything.

edit - lol 0:59:59 this is the last legally allowed post

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 22:00:01

no u booth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/04/09 at 22:00:03

You guys can't all just give up here, damnit.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 22:01:41

in b4 nightlock

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by MVT on 03/04/09 at 22:02:00

LOCKY LOCKY

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 22:02:03

No plan for tonight.

@powers: do your own thing.

Protector: Darius or me. Toss a coin.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 22:02:10

in after nightlock?!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/04/09 at 22:03:09

cheaters

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/04/09 at 22:03:56

Jabes still wants to reply. He's been replying for a while. What's the deal, Jabes?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Adam L on 03/04/09 at 22:04:43

Jesus christ close the fucking topic for real already

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Padzup on 03/04/09 at 22:04:51

He may have cancelled Alex.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Jabes on 03/04/09 at 22:05:12

I was replying and then it locked before I could hit "post".

I posted this...

"This game is becoming more and more bullshit with each passing hour.

I leave for 7 hours and come home to 9 pages of spam. I don't know if I can handle the amount of spam that you're all capable of..."

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/04/09 at 22:21:26

9 Sportsguy001 (Adam L, Honko, Kmacc, In Hiding, Darius, AlexPenev, Fababu, dragondragon, Brutus)
8 Brutus (Extol, Padzup, Sully, IsThatAGoodThing, Sportsguy001, Kevin Booth, Howes, MVT)
2 Adam L (SuperYoshi1, Jabes)
1 Honko (oneshotbilly)
1 IsThatAGoodThing (Detective Spril)
1 No Lynch (karterfreak)

Today was an undecided day for the bunch of guys. There were votes all over the place until some nigger decided to start piling them on Sportsguy. Everyone couldn't decide what to do for that day, and as such, formulated some 'plan' or some shit like that to own the shit out of that shittin mafia. After a long discussion of random spam and then removing stuff so that no-one could remember it, Brutus was about to die. But then for some reason, they just shoved onto Sportsguy, that nig. As per usual, they all got out their handy cum guns and shot the crap out of him.

Sportsguy001 has experienced death by bukkake. He was a Needledick.

Send me your Night actions in the next 24 hours, by
5pm AEST
1am EST
6am GMT


at this rate there are going to be like 3 modkills tomorrow

Also, there was a question regarding mafia in IRC. You MAY joke about mafia in IRC and you MAY make references to the topic, but NOT to the game itself in a serious way.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Lenny on 03/05/09 at 22:02:37

It was a strange occurrence that happened that night. Everyone was having bad dreams about Brutus, cause he was messing up the guys so much. As such, God or some other holy figure decided to give them a break.

Brutus has been modkilled. He was a Needledick.

As well as waking up to an immovable Brutus, the guys found out that that cunt spazzup was hoarding strats… fucking needledick. Thing is, he wasn’t.

Padzup has been killed. He was the Clingy Whipped Boy, the town bodyguard.

Day will end in 72 hours, Monday 9th March, or when a lynch occurs, at
5pm AEST
1am EST
6am GMT


ALSO, there was some complaint regarding yesterday’s votecount, due to SOME people not putting ‘unvote’ before their vote. Please do this as to avoid complaint.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/05/09 at 22:03:33

night actions?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/05/09 at 22:05:40

What the hell?  He wasn't even on the Radar?  Man, maybe we should lynch a vigil?  lol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Kmacc on 03/05/09 at 22:07:01

Well I just stayed to see what happened. Sucks to see Padzup go because he was a helpful poster, and a power role as well. As for Brutus, could care less that he's gone. Hopefully power roles got the information they needed to make help this day easier than yesterday's horrid showing.

More thoughts tomorrow afternoon when I get home from school, unless for some reason I can't sleep.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/05/09 at 22:08:46

Vote:  Alex Penev

I am so certain that he is mafia that you can lynch me if he isn't.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/05/09 at 22:09:16

I'm not silenced... I think. No PMs.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Adam L on 03/05/09 at 22:10:37

Ivootjes has replaced me, I think.  Good luck mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/05/09 at 22:12:43

I'm with you MVT.  Hell he went after me early for no reason, why not

Vote: AlexPenev

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/05/09 at 22:14:56

Hurts to lose Padzup, he was one of the most level posters IMO and now we have no protector.  I wonder if he was protecting someone the mafia wanted dead and got killed that way, or if mafia specifically targetted him.

Looks like the vigs didn't do anything last night.  That seems silly to me with so many good targets out there.  I guess it's also possible they got blocked.

Today, I think we should pick two targets, lynch one, and set up The Plan on the other.  Unless we hear from Stinson, he's my choice for the lynched one.

Vote: Stinson

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/05/09 at 22:18:19

@MVT: are you forgetting that:
- I was voting NoLynch the whole day and didn't want anyone killed
- I switched my vote to Sportsguy right at the end, just to counter all the hysteria in the last hour of play.
- Even though I voted Sportsguy, at the time I voted for him I was thnking that Brutus was going to be the goner. So did other people who voted at around the time I did. You were also thinking Brutus was the goner.
- Padzup was the only person speaking against my plan. The mafia should have wanted to keep him, because he was causing disagreement. The mafia likes disagreement because it's what makes the town frustrated and do harm onto itself. I was really expecting for them to keep him for that reason alone. I didn't see any indication that he had a power. I suspect the mafia killed him because he sounded smart, not because they knew he had a power.

What's your reason for thinking I'm mafia? I voted Sportsguy? Newsflash: guess what Brutus was!  [smiley=lolk.gif]


@Kevin: you're doing a good job of making people think you have a power role. Two minutes before the day closes is the worst time to say you've got a power. You even asked for protection last night, just before the close. And now you're asking Lenny to tell you your night action? I'm surprised you weren't killed tonight. Either you're mafia, or are playing very strange/risky for a townie... or you are the one role who could possibly be doing what you are doing and be playing smart. Which is it?  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/05/09 at 22:18:31

fuck "The Plan"

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/05/09 at 22:20:54

I just thought of something.  I think whoever the granny is should tell us.  It is hurting the town more not knowing, because we have more players with night actions that could get killed by him.  At least if we know, the power roles won't risk an unneccessary death.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/05/09 at 22:21:04

Alex you think you can slide by but I have plenty of evidence I can go into tomorrow.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/05/09 at 22:22:49

.......... Penev's catching on

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/05/09 at 22:27:36


4D66617D600F0 wrote:
I wonder if he was protecting someone the mafia wanted dead and got killed that way, or if mafia specifically targetted him.

Good point. He could have died protecting someone. As I said, he was disagreeing with me a lot. That's an excellent reason for the mafia to keep him.


Quote:
Today, I think we should pick two targets, lynch one, and set up The Plan on the other.  Unless we hear from Stinson, he's my choice for the lynched one.

All the crazy nonsense posting from MVT and Kevin at the end of yesterday and the start of today is looking very silly. They wanted Brutus gone and he was townie, just like Sportsguy, so they have no defense about wanting one over the other. They've done nothing but cause confusion. Read their responses again and tell me they aren't trying to contain their laughter behind their monitors.

@MVT: I'd like to hear your evidence. I thought I've been playing an excellent mafia game!  [smiley=lolk.gif] How could you have got me already?!?!?!?!?!?!11111

@dragon: If kevin is the granny, then what he did last night (ask for protection, say he has a special role) and this morning (ask for night action PM) is fine. Otherwise it's just crazy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/05/09 at 22:28:37

Booth, you're mafia or crazy.

MVT, why "fuck The Plan"?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/05/09 at 22:29:28

^ because MVT doesn't get it, or is mafia, or is a terrible townie player :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/05/09 at 22:31:11

ya I think today will be the day a lot will be revealed whether we like it or not.  Kinda curious how the first opening hours go with this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/05/09 at 22:35:27

Padzup's death: Mr Booth, in the garden, with the granny gun.

...na, Padzup couldn't have fallen for that. Could he?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/05/09 at 22:36:31

If he did, then why are there no other kills?  Not likely.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Lenny on 03/05/09 at 22:40:15

Ivootjes has replaced Adam L.

Forgot to say. I knew I forgot something >_>

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/05/09 at 22:45:54

Can we lynch Lenny?  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Lenny on 03/05/09 at 22:48:52

No, I died in the first post.  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/05/09 at 22:51:39

then lets revive him so we can lynch him again!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Fababu on 03/05/09 at 22:57:58

Ok, I'm just posting to say that I'm not silenced. I haven't got time to read the posts or say anything mora because I'm in a hurry, so I will do it when I return from school.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/05/09 at 23:01:23

List of possibly silenced people

2. Extol
3. IsThatAGoodThing
4. In Hiding
5. Syzygy
6. Darius
7. SuperYoshi1
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
12. nstinson
15. Kmacc
16. karterfreak
17. Detective Spril
19. Howes
20. Jabes
22. Ivootjes
24. sully
28. oneshotbillyII

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/06/09 at 00:09:54

Not silenced, and not very happy with the results of the night's actions. It didn't bother me to lose Brutus at all, but losing Padzup (Jack) really hurts.

Sully- I still want to hear WAY more from you. The point of the game is to post after reading and not staying in the shadows like I know you're prone to doing.

I have this funny feeling in me right now, but I want to hear/see more before I make any blatant observations.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by karterfreak on 03/06/09 at 00:11:38

I'm not silenced.

I'd like to hear from stinson, as he was the only one who didn't talk yesterday. Were you silenced?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by In Hiding on 03/06/09 at 02:12:08

Suspect List is now
April
Stinson
Penev
Extol

not in any order apart from April who is my number 1 suspect now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Darius on 03/06/09 at 02:25:49

I find that night to be oddly quiet, so before I say anything else, I want to ask Lenny: would Brutus have been modkilled even if the vigs chose to kill him anyway? It changes our thinking about what happened last night if we know the vigs did actually go for Brutus too.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/06/09 at 02:55:16

hey guys  :D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Darius on 03/06/09 at 03:01:16

Ok, Lenny's gone, so I guess I won't get an answer yet. Some thoughts about Padzup's death: read this quote in relation to the 'plan of awesome'.


4475706E6164140 wrote:
Well if you convinced the power roles to do it earlier I don't think their minds will have changed.


This struck me as something that could possibly have convinced the mafia to go directly for Padzup. I thought Padzup was one of the town power roles after I read it so it's quite possible the mafia did too.

Other alternatives:
-He followed Penev's suggestion to protect myself or Penev.
-He protected Tom because he was the only concrete town role available.
-He spotted someone else as an obvious town player and protected them.

I find it unlikely that he'd have gone for Tom because unless we no lynch, which seems incredibly unlikely, Tom's basically a regular townie. The people Padzup voted for are Honko, MVT, karterfreak, Syzygy and Brutus.

Also, consider the role of the bulletproofs. I thought this was an oddly quiet night: this could easily be explained by either the mafia or the vigilantes going for one of the bulletproofs. Consider this scenario:

-Padzup chooses to protect Penev.
-Vigilantes choose to kill a bulletproof.
-Mafia choose to kill Penev.
-Lenny tosses a coin, Padzup dies instead of Penev.
-Vigilantes shot fails to kill.
-We end up with fewer night actions than we expected.

And hi Ivo  :D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Lenny on 03/06/09 at 03:25:59

Yes Darius. SOMEONE apparently deleted his posts. According to Brutus it wasn't him, but even if it wasn't, it was his posts that were deleted and he had to be modkilled. :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/06/09 at 03:32:25

I'm here, I'm not silenced, but I don't have time to think about anything right now. I'll catch up probably tonight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Darius on 03/06/09 at 03:36:12

In that case, shouldn't Scott be modkilled? He has complained about this and I noticed some of his posts were gone too because the one where he called me a fuckhead is missing  ;D. I was rereading and I noticed two of my posts (706 and 707 in the topic) were together and didn't make sense without the one in-between them. Then I checked up and realised that the post where Scott calls me a fuckhead was also gone, which you can tell because I specifically refer to it in post 706. Scott complained about his posts going missing in post 1058 if you want to check. Either a mod is screwing with this game or Scott deleted a load of his own posts and then complained about it  :P.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by TJazZ on 03/06/09 at 04:00:15

Hi, I didn't read most of the pages but I was curious who was silenced on Day 2. Was that determined? It's probably been posted somewhere but I missed it.

** Pardon the interruption **

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Darius on 03/06/09 at 04:06:01

It was Stinson, Benoit (or no-one, if Stinson is mafia and was pretending).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/06/09 at 05:19:10

So nstinson is still alive, after 3 days have passed and him only making 4 posts? What a load of fuck.

Vote :
nstinson


I'm not removing this vote from him unless he comes in here and starts explaining why. He has contributed nothing to the town. Nothing, at all. And he is just sailing through this game. Well I say its time to put a stop to this, and to get him talking. If he doesn't respond to this, then he is of no use and deserves to be killed anyway.

He is either Mafia, a townie who isn't contributing anything or a town power who thinks being quiet is going to keep him alive. If he turns out to be a needledick, doesn't matter. He wasn't helping us as a team at all. If he is a town power, then our bad, but if he wasn't posting how are we expected to know? If he is Mafia, which I feel is the case at the moment, then the odds are even more in our favour.

I'm sick of him. Either start speaking up (Like SportsGuy did) or just get rid of him. Silent people are too suspicious in this.

"What if he was silenced?" would be something one could think. In the early stage of the game when he wasn't silenced, he didn't bother posting, so even if he wasn't silenced I doubt he would of cared to post anyway.

Sidenote, I'm not silenced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/06/09 at 06:09:26

From the grave:

I got robbed, Kill Penev.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/06/09 at 06:13:53

I tried to tell them not to kill you but they wouldn't listen!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by In Hiding on 03/06/09 at 06:34:44

vote penev

to clever for his own good.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Padzup on 03/06/09 at 07:14:51

fuck me


002B2C302D420 wrote:
I wonder if he was protecting someone the mafia wanted dead and got killed that way, or if mafia specifically targetted him.


The latter unless Lenny forgot to send me a PM.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 07:29:46

Scott, from what I gather, the Granny is the non-violent role that kills anyone that visits him.  Like I said last night, whoever is this role should speak up, and as long as no one disagrees and says they are that role, this person is a legit townie.  This will also help the town, because the town has more power roles, meaning more people are visiting each night.  We have the potential to lose more players per night than the mafia, so not knowing him is helping the mafia more.  One extra perk for being the only one saying you're that non-violent role is that we won't lynch you all game, no matter what you say!

Edit: The moralist is that I was referring to.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 07:40:36

Revive: Lenny

Come help us out, Lenny!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/06/09 at 08:01:05

cross my name off the silent list, i received no pm.

stinson needs to speak up today, if he doesnt then thats just the worst playing of anyone, town or mafia. and the longer hes quiet, the more suspicious it looks.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by In Hiding on 03/06/09 at 08:03:25

here here and bandwagon and all that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 08:11:23

I've felt stinson was suspicious since early day 2, but I can't bring myself to vote for him unless he speaks.  I think he's guilty, but if we lynch him, the mafia will pick someone new to silence and play the same game (silencing him until we give up not lynching him).  I am in no way sticking up for stinson, but at the same time I don't know what we should do.  The only way to eliminate the benefit of the silencers role is to either kill the silencer or not kill the silenced (so they only can use it on one person all game).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Darius on 03/06/09 at 08:59:41

Padzup, I was just throwing some thoughts out there about your death. The Penev scenario was just a scenario; of course I don't know whether the mafia got the kill or not. Only the mafia and the vigilantes know that. I don't even know if you're allowed to make a post like that after dying, but I'll say this in response anyway: I am town.

I think we should leave Stinson until he at least comes online. If he is mafia, he's not misdirecting us at the moment so it's not a priority that we kill him. If he still appears silenced then we'll have to review the situation: perhaps the watcher/cop knows something new. If the mafia are playing games with him they may have used the dominatrix on him last night and/or silenced him again.

Ivo: Adam said he was a needledick, which means you are now a needledick. Correct?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/06/09 at 10:45:16

In defense to padzup's final post, I didn't blindly follow penev. We had a huge advantage, and it was a good investment for the power roles to be figured out by our watcher to narrow down mafia members. And I technically couldn't "follow" his plan, because I could in no way engage in the night time part myself.

I personally feel the same as last game right now in terms of where its going. The town is taking the same path, and if we continue we are going to self-destruct while mafia sits back and watches, which is probably what they're already doing.

There's too many quiet people here, and I feel that at least 2-3 of the mafia members left are people at the very lower tier of post count. People who aren't talking need to speak up. Even if you "are busy and don't have time", you can make at least one decent post every now and then. Speak up or you are either useless or mafia, that's all there is to it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 10:59:26

List of possibly silenced people

5. Syzygy
7. SuperYoshi1
12. nstinson
17. Detective Spril
24. sully
28. oneshotbillyII

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/06/09 at 11:04:40

By any chance, can somebody re-link the thing with all of the post counts, or at least reference the page? I just look for like 15 minutes and couldn't find it...

I wanna see who is truly posting the least, cause there's a good chance those people are mafia in my eyes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/06/09 at 11:04:53


7D584B504C4A390 wrote:
Padzup, I was just throwing some thoughts out there about your death. The Penev scenario was just a scenario; of course I don't know whether the mafia got the kill or not. Only the mafia and the vigilantes know that. I don't even know if you're allowed to make a post like that after dying, but I'll say this in response anyway: I am town.

I think we should leave Stinson until he at least comes online. If he is mafia, he's not misdirecting us at the moment so it's not a priority that we kill him. If he still appears silenced then we'll have to review the situation: perhaps the watcher/cop knows something new. If the mafia are playing games with him they may have used the dominatrix on him last night and/or silenced him again.

Ivo: Adam said he was a needledick, which means you are now a needledick. Correct?


Everyone seems to have posted once after dieing so far.  Maybe that could be a rule?  You have one post or something. :3  Anyhow, I'm not silenced as you can tell.  I have to say I thought Penev was going as he has "The Plan" and seems to know a hell of alot of info.  Suspicious much?  Spril, please speak up a bit more. -___-  And Stinson is being completely unhelpful which is a shame.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/06/09 at 11:08:21

I found this in my history KMacc.

http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi

EDIT: Can a Mod please add this link to Lenny's 1st or 2nd post?  Thanks.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 11:17:52


Quote:
Everyone seems to have posted once after dieing so far.  Maybe that could be a rule?  You have one post or something. :3

You're not supposed to post content like what your night actions were, who your suspicions are, etc after you die.  That's kind of the point of being dead, your team no longer gets your input.  If you make a post after you die it's supposed to just be like "damn I died, good luck."

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/06/09 at 11:21:44

Yeah I thought that was the rule but noone has enforced it so far.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 11:24:39

Well it's difficult to enforce since you can't really modkill dead people, and deleting the post after some people have seen it gives them an advantage over the people who didn't see it, so what can you do?  People should just follow the rules on their own.

Silent list

7. SuperYoshi1
12. nstinson
17. Detective Spril
24. sully
28. oneshotbillyII

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/06/09 at 11:27:25

the bottom four on that list are the quietest people in the game as it is, so it might be a while before we figure out who was silenced, if anyone was..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 11:30:24

Well you can't do anything to people not following that rule in the current game, but you could give them a one mafia game ban or something, so they can't participate in the next one.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/06/09 at 11:31:22

Just looking near the bottom of the overall list, some people come up as suspicious just for being so inactive. Totals:

karterfreak  20  
He has been going through some real life troubles, so that is probably his reasoning for a low post count.

sully  18  
This is pretty weird. I feel sully definitely needs to speak up or else he's very suspicious. He hasn't contributed a whole lot, which is weird cause he seems like he'd be good with this analytical stuff. Most of his posts came on day 1, and on day 2 he only had one or two serious posts if that. Needs to contribute more to get himself out of the hole.

Detective Spril  18  
Her posts are nearly split evenly over the two days. I don't really know what to say about her, cause it seemed like she posted much less than 18 posts. Off the top of my head, I feel she spends more time protecting herself rather than adding more to the table, even though she won't have many votes on her if at all.

Fababu  16  
Needs to post more for sure. But at least his posts are usually solid and helpful in some way. Still suspicious that he posts so little though, especially if he is capable of being a good help.

oneshotbillyII  14  
This is probably just his style. He did it last game and was town. And since Tom knows him so well and is like 100% positive he's town and since Tom is basically 100% town since nobody has challenged him, than Sean is most likely town. Should try to contribute more, but...

[ch9734]Sword[ch9734]  13
Like fababu, he puts in good stuff. So he should be posting more often if he could be a helpful contribution, otherwise he looks suspicious.

nstinson   4
This is just terrible, even if he was silenced day 2. I don't know if he's gonna be silenced everyday from here on out or whatever, but if it continues to like day 6 or something we should maybe lynch him because that'd be terrible for him to just get by like that. if he were mafia.


Some of these people have to be mafia. It is like literally impossible for all of these people to be townies... Quiet people right now are at the top of my list, until I find any other suspicions towards somebody else. these people need to talk more though, it's ridiculous.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 11:47:44

April, could you try to provide some analysis of what you think about the game so far?  Not only will that take some pressure off of you, but you'll help us out as well.  I know you're in college, so you have to have at least SOME reasoning skills  :).  All you've done so far is defend yourself, but we need some actual useful insight out of you.  Remember it's a team game, and we want what's best for the team, not the individual.  Anyone else that has followed this same path should also heed the call and try to bring something to the table.  I'm not voting for any of you yet, but if you guys don't I'll have no choice but to vote for those that don't help out.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Fababu on 03/06/09 at 11:54:05

We don't know if Nstinson is silenced today, so we can't make any guess about it at least until more people have spoken. BTW, I can't understand why are you voting Penev.


52636A6A52676A63060 wrote:
Vote:  Alex Penev

I am so certain that he is mafia that you can lynch me if he isn't.


What makes you think that? With a few other people, Alex is one of the person that I'm almost (75%) sure that is a townie; so I can'd understand what makes him suspicious.


113F2C33341835352E325A0 wrote:
I'm with you MVT.  Hell he went after me early for no reason, why not

Vote: AlexPenev


4 minutes after MVT vote; you just say you're with MVT but... at what point are you with him?


64787F7D7163776821100 wrote:
vote penev

to clever for his own good.


Just lol. I hope that it was a joke, because I know that if you want you can give a good reason for vote him

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Padzup on 03/06/09 at 12:03:45


5C77706C711E0 wrote:

Quote:
Everyone seems to have posted once after dieing so far.  Maybe that could be a rule?  You have one post or something. :3

You're not supposed to post content like what your night actions were, who your suspicions are, etc after you die.  That's kind of the point of being dead, your team no longer gets your input.  If you make a post after you die it's supposed to just be like "damn I died, good luck."

yea i apologize, just got a bit carried away.

fixed and my predictions are likely wrong anyway so anyone who read them isn't really given an advantage in the first place.

:-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/06/09 at 12:06:20

I'm not silenced.

Not sure exactly what to say since there's 1100 posts of crap to go through here... I hope the people with investigative roles are checking out those players who have been most active in trying to set group strategies (like Penev) to see if they really have our best intentions in mind when setting these plans.  Penev, Scott, Booth, Tom, Honko come to mind.  With this many people its difficult for me to sift through all the information and state anything with some confidence without automating my reasoning efforts, which I simply dont have time for.  Hopefully the people with powerful roles can be more successful in learning information.  I wonder if some sort of randomized strategy might be appropriate where we just pick someone and kick them out unless someone else can provide real information (night actions) about them not being mafia.  That might be a stupid idea though.

Maybe I'm kind of curious about Penev, Darius, and Karterfreak just because my votes havent aligned with theirs so far.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/06/09 at 12:17:23

Just got online for the day, and losing Padzup completely sucks. He actually contributed a lot to help us here...Brutus, not so much, but townie anyway, so meh.

(BTW, I've not been silenced that I'm aware of.)

Anyway, I've scanned over the day's posts so far, and there are some things from previous days I want to look at, but I looked over Stinson's 4 entire posts in this thread, and absolutely none of them contributed to helping the town in any way. Even if he were silenced for Day 2, he could well have put in at least one post of substance on Day 1, but all of his posts so far have essentially been bullshit, so if I had to pick right now, I'd vote Stinson now based on that. I wonder if he's mafia trying to be nonchalant about it (to not arouse suspicion). I mean, I know I haven't posted much (haven't had the time to post too much of substance), but 4 posts in three days is ridiculous, even if you were silenced for a day (or two). If you're with us, contribute something. If you're not with us or don't want to contribute, gtfo.

I'm also still looking at Scott (to post my reasoning one more time would be like beating a dead horse), and I'm also looking at Tom (In Hiding) as well, but I don't want to straight accuse him without further looking into his posts and the way he's voted thus far.

Will post again after I eat and look more closely at some things...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 12:22:02

Updated Silent list

7. SuperYoshi1
12. nstinson
28. oneshotbillyII

SuperYoshi actually posts a decent amount, so if he doesn't post today, odds are he was silenced.  The other 2 haven't posted much, so it won't tell that much.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/06/09 at 12:24:28

How did Padzup help exactly Spril?

If you look at Padzup's post style he tended to focus on an individual and try and pick flaws in their playing style.  I can only assume he was killed before he latched onto a mafia member.  Just a theory. :/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 2]
Post by Extol on 03/06/09 at 13:00:11


17392A35321E333328345C0 wrote:
night actions?


Booth, I wouldnt go around straight up asking what everyones night actions are. That makes it seem awfully suspicious that you just want to find out everyones roles. most of the town powers are better off not letting anyone know who they are. If everyone just comes out and says "I'm this and i did this" then the mafia will know striaght away who to target for the remaining nights. if there was a way that the town could let each other know their powers without the mafia finding out that would be different, but there isnt a way that i know of that wouldnt end in a modkill. so to the town power roles: do not give away your roles!.
the only exception would be if what you found out with your night action is crucial to finding and killing a mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/06/09 at 13:07:07


Quote:
How did Padzup help exactly Spril?

If you look at Padzup's post style he tended to focus on an individual and try and pick flaws in their playing style.  I can only assume he was killed before he latched onto a mafia member.  Just a theory. :/


Quite possible, but after rereading many of his posts in the thread, he did make some good analyses on a few people and actually posted with actual reasons of why he felt as he did.

I did notice that he latched onto MVT (which could have something to do with him being killed?), whose posts reveal to me that he hasn't contributed more than bullshit one-liners over the last day or so either. He was gung-ho about lynching Adam, but I don't think that would have helped at all. I'd like to hear more from him before I'm convinced he's town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/06/09 at 13:10:09

oh yeah, and welcome, ivo!

hopefully youre more helpful and less spamful than adam was.  :)

i'd like to hear your thoughts, ivo. as the newcomer, you might have something new to bring to the table that none of us picked up before.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/06/09 at 13:45:43

Sully and Booth are both posting useless information, and now they're both up there on my suspect list. I had to call out Sully three times before he posted anything, and what he posted isn't any different from his previous posts. Keep this in mind, town...

Booth is different. Booth pries at people and demands information, and I'm not fully convinced that he's not mafia.  I don't know the best way to explain it, but Booth appears to be a low-level mafia member that they have designated to try to get us to talk.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 13:50:15

Does Booth really demand information?  It seems to me that he just throws his vote wherever he feels like without any reasoning.  Day 1 it was on me from before I even made a real post and stayed there for most of the day.  Day 2 it was on 500 different people.  Now he's locked on to Penev.  He doesn't ask for any defense from the people he's voting for or give any explanation for why he finds them vote-worthy, he just votes.  It seems very counter-productive to me, and my vote would be on him right now if it wasn't for Stinson.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/06/09 at 13:53:30


53746460746779150 wrote:
Alex is one of the person that I'm almost (75%) sure that is a townie; so I can'd understand what makes him suspicious

You should be about 75% sure that everyone's a townie.... :p

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/06/09 at 13:57:07

Town, we're going to be royally fucked if we go on  like this. It's as if we've reached a standstill, nothing is happening.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/06/09 at 13:58:39

We are just waiting for more to jump aboard the Penev bandwagon before we nail him down for good.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 13:59:25

The people who just sit around saying "man we're royally fucked" are the ones putting us in this position.  Stop crying and post something useful.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/06/09 at 14:02:15

I say we employ the same plan we had yesterday and have the two "chosen ones" be Booth and Stinson.

If we're all in agreement that the game would be better off without them, then I'll start the bandwagon on Booth. Stinson has already proven (two games in a row now) that he's useless...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 14:21:24

Hahhahahahahahaha.

Members viewing this topic (8): Fababu, Syzygy, Honko, Howes, Padzup, nstinson, sully, Extol.

Now he's viewing it, right after I hit reply to that post.

Fuck me.

Still, it's the first time I've seen him check the topic in a long time.  A town player should be more interested in the following the game than that, silenced or not.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/06/09 at 14:36:32

As of right now, I have to say i agree with Jabes on the plan for today/tonight. from what i mentioned a few posts ago, Booth is suspicious to me because it seems hes trying to syphon information that really shouldnt be given out. That seems like a mafia tactic to me.
and stinson isnt helping as of now. if he comes to and starts helping us out then it might be different, but if he hasnt even been checking the topic, let alone saying anything, then hes of really no use to us, hes only a number if he's town.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Fababu on 03/06/09 at 14:37:39


18220539302510163E3E350539383F36510 wrote:
[quote author=53746460746779150 link=1235628670/1150#1174 date=1236369245]Alex is one of the person that I'm almost (75%) sure that is a townie; so I can'd understand what makes him suspicious

You should be about 75% sure that everyone's a townie.... :p[/quote]


5473636773607E120 wrote:
[quote author=1C37302C315E0 link=1235628670/725#739 date=1236105422]Hey Tom.  I'm curious why you won't explain why I'm on your suspect list.  It's impossible for people to defend themselves when you don't give reasons, and look how that turned out the last two games: lots of bad lynches.  Until you start backing up your votes with more than just "I have a bad feeling," you're pretty much a joke and I'm going to ignore everything you say.

And to everyone who thinks you can figure people out 100% from your gut.  You're stupid, really.  If you're town, you will never be more than like 75% sure on anyone.  There's always room for doubt.  The only time you can be 100% sure about anything is when you're mafia.  It's ridiculous how some of you are so cocky that you think after playing this game twice you are suddenly part-psychic and can figure out someone's alignment with zero doubt from skimming a couple posts.  This arrogant bullshit makes me want to stop playing, since half of you seem to prefer random gut feelings over actually reading people's posts who try to give real analysis.

Sorry about page 28, I was ridiculously bored and decided to get the lamest 3000th post of all time.  Won't happen again, unless this game gets so big that I have a chance to reach 4000 as well.  I'm sure people will read into that somehow as I'm mafia.  Sorry, but you're wrong.

Unvote


Nope, at least no in my opinion. I agree with you when you say that votes may be fundament in the posts that you read, but this game also has a important part of intuition cause if not the job of finding mafia could become impossible.
Your argument is valid for me, and after it I'm 75% ( ;)) sure that you aren't mafia. The same happens with Darius and Scott. I don't know if Darius has played before, but his analysis about people make a lot of sense. Scott posted some messages where he was angry and he insulted some people, but It's because he's trying to find mafia really hard. BTW don't worry, this is just a fucking game; if we lost, bad luck, but we should try to be calmed during this.
[/quote]

That's why I said 75% instead of 100%  ::)
BTW, I can't understand why someone will be interested in erase your posts. From the two reasons you have said, I will think the first is more probable (but improbable anyway imo); because I think all of us are mature persons and won't do a dirty handling as it for win a miserable game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/06/09 at 14:40:28

If we do the two person thing then we can surely find a better option than stinson ._.  MVT?  Penev?  Scott?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 14:42:53

All of those guys post a lot, Tim.  If they're town, that helps us obviously, and if they're mafia they're more likely to either screw up and blow their cover or say things that we can reread later to discover who else might be working with them.  Since Stinson never posts, he's not useful to us in any way, so he's a great choice to get rid of.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/06/09 at 14:44:42

But if he's silenced?  Oh well, I guess it could be a mafia tactic.  If he was mafia and pretending to be silenced I'm sure he'd speak up though.  All I'm saying is he hasn't really had a chance to post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/06/09 at 14:46:22

Why is Penev a good option? from my glances, he seems to be providing substantial advice to the town.  As I said earlier, I'm wary of him for doing so, but i wouldn't vote him off without finding out first.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/06/09 at 14:48:15

Hmmm, I just had a feeling, kind of like an "In Hiding" feeling that Penev would be the one to get lynched last night.  Hence I don't feel to good about him now, but yeah he is posting info which is good.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 14:48:19

He had a chance on Day 1 and didn't use it.

If he's mafia and pretending, then posting when some pressure is on would be suicidal.  We'd know right away he was pretending, no matter what he said.  If he's silenced, he'll stay quiet because he has to, and if he's mafia, he'll stay quiet because it's the only way his act looks real.  Either way he remains useless to us.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/06/09 at 15:10:37

Vote: Stinson

As people have pointed out, he's getting a free pass so far if he's mafia, and there's no telling when/if he'll speak.  I'm not saying that as a policy we should lynch everyone who appears to be silenced, but after 2 days its probably reasonable to do unless we already know they are a town power role or something.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 16:10:59

What if we watched Stinson tonight?  Then if no one visits him, he'll have to talk or get lynched tomorrow.  If a mafia still goes to silence him, we'll know a for sure mafia member (which i'm sure they wouldn't now after i said this).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/06/09 at 16:11:26

Stinson may be a good person to vote for near the end of the day if we have no suspects, but for now we should be more focused on finding other suspicions rather than voting stinson since we're too lazy to analyze.


003A1D21283D080E26262D1D2120272E490 wrote:
The deletions in question happened between 9:00 and 11:45 pm on the last day of Day 2 (right before night), and I noticed it when I returned from watching Wanted with my family downstairs.  I posted that I noticed it at this time.  There are a LOT of mods on at that time, normally.


If that was wednesday night (which I'm pretty sure it was) then I was at a concert and didn't get home until nearly 1AM or something. Anyway I don't think you're gonna find the person who did it unless they came clean, so there's no sense in trying.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 16:16:10

Also if the watcher always watches the person silenced the day before, it will never be the same person twice in a row.  Also they'll know its not the moralist, because mafia got to that person first.  This won't give people the excuse of not talking because they're supposedly silenced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/06/09 at 16:27:55

For make you know guys I'm didn't get silenced today, I was just playing MK64 [smiley=happy.gif]

I can only constate the disaster that the game is going right into : last night (at the end of day 2) after I went to bed, a lot of spam and crap happened, and even some people broke the rules of the game (including maybe some mods :o)
I couldn't imagine it would became even more ridiculous than I thought a few days ago :-/

Indeed we lose our protector and a very decent poster here :(
Only one townie got killed this night though, if we ignore Brutus' modkill (it's not a bad thing even if he was a townie as I expected)
That would mean either the mafia or the vigs failed at killing someone (according to Padzup himself he didn't met the moralist...) It's very unlikely that the vigs chose to kill Padzup; so the vigs got either roleblocked by mafia or townie, or they targetted a bullet proof, and the mafia did simply kill him.
It's only my own opinion; but actually there are many possibilities to explain what could have happened at night 2, so it will hard to deduce something about this, unless the watcher claim himself now and reveal us what he knows, but it's probably too early...

Let's get back into this day : it seems Stinson would likely remain silent again today that would mean that either :
-he got silenced at day 2 and is again silenced this day
-he is mafia trying to stay under the radar as long as possible
-he don't fucking care anymore about the game
In the two last cases, it is very likely to get rid of him asap, by lynch or by vigilante kill, as this doesn't give a advantage to the town in any way.
In the first case, we can maybe wait again the moment when he would be able to speak, one day, but will the mafia even bother to make able to do it until he got killed ? But as long as the mafia use this power only on him, other people won't be affected, this is the only good point... if it's really a good point. :-/
I'm undecided about his case atm...

As for other possible suspects, Booth acted weirdly at the end of day 2 (like many players but...)
The fact that he claimed having a power role put my suspicion on him like I suspected Tom for almost similar reasons, and his opinions about the other doesn't make a lot of sense, with not really giving reasons for his votes...

And for Penev... I won't exclude the possibility of him being mafia, but I don't see much the point of getting rid of him now, didn't make something weird, made great quality posts and provide some plans and strategies to help us :-/
If he is actually mafia then he is doing a great game now by seeming as "the great townie who want to save all of us and win the game".

And still those quiet players who really needs to talk at least a bit more now, although they might be busy for some of them. We are on weekend now, let's him if their activity will increase for the 2 next days... or then we might consider to be a bit more aggressive on them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/06/09 at 16:40:34

These voting patterns right now are stupid so far, just throwing my two cents in. Stinson could be mafia but we shouldn't focus on him. People in penev bandwagon aren't helping either. Penev is posting a lot of stuff, which people are getting caught up in. I agreed with the plan but otherwise he has way too many theories to follow. He is overanalyzing certain points, and is trying to hard to be a mafia member.

Penev bandwagoners, you guys are probably just voting for no reason on him because you feel his theories are trying to throw you off. I'm almost positive he is just overanalyzing.

Mafia is being quiet and letting us screw up. They see people making bandwagons (who are probably just stupid townies using no sense) so they sit back and relax. They are being quiet, and we can't let it go on like this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by karterfreak on 03/06/09 at 16:51:01

Well, I don't have much to say, other than that the person(s) who deleted posts off scott and brutus is an/are idiot(s).

I must say however, I'm starting to be suspicious of Alex. I don't have a reason for it yet, It's more of a gut feeling.

I'll post more when I've got some basis to back up my suspicions.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/06/09 at 16:53:46


4A7B7962670B0 wrote:
Just got online for the day, and losing Padzup completely sucks. He actually contributed a lot to help us here...Brutus, not so much, but townie anyway, so meh.

(BTW, I've not been silenced that I'm aware of.)

Anyway, I've scanned over the day's posts so far, and there are some things from previous days I want to look at, but I looked over Stinson's 4 entire posts in this thread, and absolutely none of them contributed to helping the town in any way. Even if he were silenced for Day 2, he could well have put in at least one post of substance on Day 1, but all of his posts so far have essentially been bullshit, so if I had to pick right now, I'd vote Stinson now based on that. I wonder if he's mafia trying to be nonchalant about it (to not arouse suspicion). I mean, I know I haven't posted much (haven't had the time to post too much of substance), but 4 posts in three days is ridiculous, even if you were silenced for a day (or two). If you're with us, contribute something. If you're not with us or don't want to contribute, gtfo.

I'm also still looking at Scott (to post my reasoning one more time would be like beating a dead horse), and I'm also looking at Tom (In Hiding) as well, but I don't want to straight accuse him without further looking into his posts and the way he's voted thus far.

Will post again after I eat and look more closely at some things...


I just don't like the looks of this post at all. Maybe the stinson stuff applies, but everything else just feels wrong here.. The post just seems fake, even the beginning part which padz dying just seems bleh.

Scott is similar to penev imo, overanalyzes which gives mafia reason to keep him.

Tom admitted his role and nobody has challenged him. How can you find him suspicious at this point?!

April, you are also someone I suspect as I stated on page 47, because you are trying to get under the radar. You spend too much time defending as to putting more out there for us. And when you do try to throw some stuff in, it's on stinson (already talked about enough), scott (posts too much and overanalyzes too much to be mafia), and tom (basically like the only 100% townie here).

I call bs.

vote: Detective Spril

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/06/09 at 16:59:19

Well I'm out until either much later tonight or tomorrow. Town just be sensible and don't go for other stupid townies who don't have a clue what they're talking about. You guys just go at each other with no real reasoning or thinking towards why you want that person lynched. You guys need to think more, and stop letting mafia take a free pass to a townie getting lynch.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 17:03:18

I like dragon's idea to watch Stinson for silencing tonight.  Hopefully our watcher agrees with it, and it's enough of a deterrent to keep the silencer away so we can get some info out of him tomorrow.  And if the silencer is stupid enough to get spotted, then trading the watcher for the silencer seems like a good enough deal to me that they should reveal themselves (but only if they catch a mafia).

Unvote

I agree with Kmacc and others about April being off, but I'm still more curious about Booth's erratic behavior.  What's the justification for your votes?  Did you intend to claim a power role, or was that a joke?  If it's real, be clear about it, if not then stop trying to confuse people.

Vote: Booth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/06/09 at 17:11:47

Booth is a townie.  He seems very interested to help and has made many good posts.  Hell, even Padzup complimented him before he died.


3100051B1411610 wrote:
Booth knows his shit and I commend him for that.


But really what has Booth done that makes him suspicious?  Is it the fact that you guys don't like how he throws around votes?  I don't have a problem with it really at all.  Why not throw some votes around and put some pressure on people.  I have been doing that all game.

Keep the Penev bandwagon rolling!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 17:17:08

You have indeed been doing that all game MVT, but I don't like you either.  And my problem with Booth is that he never justifies his votes, whether they're votes he quickly removes (like everyone he voted for yesterday) or ones he sticks with (like his vote on me Day 1 and probably his vote on Penev today).  You at least attempt to give explanations most of the time, even if your explanations are bad.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Brutus on 03/06/09 at 17:25:05

The fact I got modkilled is fucking retarded, so is the town. I hope you lose.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/06/09 at 17:27:30


78535448553A0 wrote:
I like dragon's idea to watch Stinson for silencing tonight.  Hopefully our watcher agrees with it, and it's enough of a deterrent to keep the silencer away so we can get some info out of him tomorrow.  And if the silencer is stupid enough to get spotted, then trading the watcher for the silencer seems like a good enough deal to me that they should reveal themselves (but only if they catch a mafia).


That sounds as a nice idea, we should have done it at night 2 btw.
The silencer won't probably come to Stinson at night 3 though if he reads that, at least it will clear up the Stinson's case :)

@MVT : care to explain why I am on your suspicious list ? You didn't even give any explanation [smiley=flush.gif]

Well I'm going to bed anyway... *leaves before american massive spam*

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/06/09 at 17:44:47

wow, it is about time I got some votes on me!

As far as who I voted for... a lot of that was just spontaneous and it was either to get out a front runner that was annoying or that people made good points they were mafia.  Keep in mind that I did accurately predict Flo was mafia and pleaded with you all not to lynch sportsguy and was nearly 100% certain he was a townie.

Yes, I joked about that.  I did say "special" role, not "power" role.  I am not saying I am not a power role but the "special" part was for a very good reason.  

And yes I was spamming like crazy for 2 reasons.  1 being I was trying to get votes on me and piss off people putting votes on sportsguy, so they can put them on me instead.  The second reason was the Brutus thing.  Whoever deleted the posts, you successfully got my goat there.  Made me look really bad there, so I decided if I already look like I am spamming I might as well keep going on it.

As far as Penev voting goes this time, he is a very minor light suspicion.  most of me says he's townie, but since nobody really makes any good points for or against, why not.  I am more than willing to change my vote, if per say a honko vote gets going.  I really really suspect him, but it's like I dunno why.  I just can't put a finger on it, but i suspect him.  later in the day I'll go down the list.

Either way, I can't really clear my name now, so a couple votes on me is fine. I would like to play longer, so I guess if I get a few more, I'll have to do something, cause hey it's no fun to be a dead person, but for now, at least you suspect me.  At this point, if you didn't, I'd know your mafia.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/06/09 at 17:58:50

superyoshi I need to update that list soon.  You will be removed.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/06/09 at 18:01:24

well I don't believe in modify so I'll say a couple other things:

Voting for Stinson is stupid.  He's a bad player, so why kill a bad player if we think he's mafia?  Hell if he isn't at least he's not saying anything to hurt us, and it's just another person to pad us if he's not, but if he is, he isn't helping to to pass misinformation or pry things out of anyone, so I say lets not take the bait.

So Jabes wants to start a Booth Bandwagon and says i'm useless.   I'll say I haven't been extremely useful, but I have amongst my spam and strange strategy and a double reminder, I did pick out FLo after much careful thought.  The rest of my votes on people were just seeker/bogus votes.  When there is nobody anyone is really voting that makes any sense, I might as well see who joins me and see how eager they are and measure that to see if they give away too much.  SO far peole have been careful.

Either way Jabes seems to want to target me, so he now is in my top few for suspects.  Since I know who I am, and he suspects me regardless, well, then he rises up my list right away.  I'd be tempted to change my vote to him if anyone gave me good reason to.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/06/09 at 18:07:33


67616D6F6F0C0 wrote:
April, you are also someone I suspect as I stated on page 47, because you are trying to get under the radar. You spend too much time defending as to putting more out there for us. And when you do try to throw some stuff in, it's on stinson (already talked about enough), scott (posts too much and overanalyzes too much to be mafia), and tom (basically like the only 100% townie here).


My issue with Tom is that although he claims a power role and no one has challenged it, does that automatically make it 100% true? IMO, no matter what he claims, he's not off scot-free for me. As I said, I could be wrong, and I want to look into his actions more before assuming one way or the other, but there is no 100% townie here, except maybe Darius.

I also don't feel it's a bad thing to respond to things said about me, but my Day 3 goal is to read better into everyone and try and put more out there, which I'll admit I haven't been doing. I just don't want to be falsely assumed mafia for being quiet/not responding to anything about me/not posting anything of substance.

That said, Drag's got a good idea about watching Stinson to see if he's silenced again. That way, if he is silenced again, we can figure out who the silencer is and look at who he's working with, and possibly pick off more mafia from looking into him.

And having read Booth's last post, I'm not sure if I really think he's mafia. The post (among others) was pretty odd, but I don't honestly think anyone in mafia would be so bold as to essentially solicit votes. I'd like to see what else he brings to the table, but I'm half-and-half on him: could be, but his actions just aren't saying it for me.

Edit to add: The Booth post I'm referring to was timestamped 8.44pm, not the one right above this.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/06/09 at 18:11:53

ya April I am moderately suspicious of Tom. Def not giving him a pass or even assuming 100% that he has a power role, but he probably does, just hopefully not for the other team ;)

Ya, I did some weird stuff, and crap I forgot to respond to something else... this I will say opening... the "night actions?" quote... as much as I'd like to just hide it and make mafia think I'm power, I'll just give up the goose there....  When I posted that, Lenny did not yet reveal any night activity, and it was past the 24 hour night deadline, so an important thing can be said there..... not everyone used a night action, but if I recall the day started early yesterday or am I wrong?

Anyhow, I just said it cause his post game up about night actions after I hit send.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/06/09 at 18:30:49

Coming right out and saying that we're gonna watch Stinson doesnt seem like a great plan to me.  The silencer isnt going to be stupid enough to silence him again, and then he'll just come back tomorrow and say "oh, i was silenced" and we wont have learned anything.  We should have the watcher threaten to watch 2-3 people instead, because that will still be an effective deterrent against people visiting them.  We can effectively protect probably 3 people with the watcher at once.  So who else do we want to threaten to watch?  Basically we tell the watcher to "roll a 3 sided die... watch person A,B, or C depending on the roll of the die".

By the way, if the person being watched is killed by the mafia, does the watcher get to find out about that?

edit: i guess this was a stupid question... the watcher would be insanely powerful if that were the case

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 18:37:20

The watcher would find out that the killer visited the guy they're watching, so yeah they'd know they killed him.

And you make a good point.  They probably wouldn't risk it with a 1/3 chance of getting caught, and it's a more efficient use of our resources.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/06/09 at 18:41:00

Ok robin, with that in mind... lets use the watcher to watch stinson and protect 2 people who are considered valuable to the town then.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 19:01:57

Uh, we lost our only protector last night, didn't we?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/06/09 at 19:05:00

Threatening to watch 3 people pseudo-protects them because if the mafia kills the person being watched, we will know who the killer is.  They wouldn't risk losing one of their remaining guys.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/06/09 at 19:19:36


584E5D5B5352584E5D5B53523C0 wrote:
Scott, from what I gather, the Granny is the non-violent role that kills anyone that visits him.  Like I said last night, whoever is this role should speak up, and as long as no one disagrees and says they are that role, this person is a legit townie.  This will also help the town, because the town has more power roles, meaning more people are visiting each night.  We have the potential to lose more players per night than the mafia, so not knowing him is helping the mafia more.  One extra perk for being the only one saying you're that non-violent role is that we won't lynch you all game, no matter what you say!

Edit: The moralist is that I was referring to.


What :-?? This confuses me. At one point, I thought we had agreed that the moralist shouldn't reveal who they are. The mafia obviously does not know who they are, and if the mafia tries to kill them, they will die.

Mafia roles that visit: Cunt (if killing)
Hooker
Captivator
Dominatrix

Town roles that visit: Virgin
Stalker
Skirt Lifter
Womanizer

Unless I'm wrong, this means that the town has the same amount of ways to die as the mafia, and town and mafia each have one 'expendable' role with multiples (Cunt and Virgin). If one of the mafia dies, the others will probably know why they died, since they are -probably- communicating through PM.
If one of the virgins dies, the other will presumably know because of the communication necessary to select a victim.

As long as the town power roles do not all visit the same person, it seems safe to assume that town has about the same chance to die as the mafia. Why should the moralist reveal their role, as it makes them essentially a regular townie? Your posts confuse me, drag.

Vote: dragondragon

If only because I don't feel like voting for Booth yet...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 19:33:41

The reason I think they should reveal themselves is because right now we have 5 town powers that can visit.  Mafia has 2.  We have not only a higher percentage chance of losing a visit role to the moralist, but we can lose more in one night as well.  Penev's plan has 3 people in one night going to one player.  If they're the moralist, we'll lose 3 power roles right there, and basically screw ourselves for the whole game.  If they say who they are, no one will risk the chance of dying by the moralist.  We also know they are a confirmed townie, so we won't lynch them.  I basically see it as win win.  If someone has a reason why this isn't the ideal play for the moralist, let me know.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/06/09 at 19:37:14

The kidnapper will probably not be a factor in this game, if only because of our aversion to the No Lynch vote. Can anyone else give an opinion on this? My opinion is that the moralist should only reveal who they are if they are in the top two of votes, which would result in the plan being carried out.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/06/09 at 19:39:32

plus, if the moralist reveals him/herself, they are pretty much safe for the rest of the game, as the mafia wont want to touch them cause theyll die. But at the same time, the mafia wont want to touch them cause theyll die, so that leaves less of a chance that we'll get more mafia in a shorter amount of time. I guess in the end it would be up to the moralist if they want to reveal themselves or not.

Edit: I like Howes' thinking, that the moralist should only reveal themself if they are in the top two votewise.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 19:40:41

Town

9xNeedledick - You are a Needledick! Nothing too special about you. Can't Visit

2xVirgin - You are a Virgin, one of the Town Vigilantes! Each night with you vote with your buddy [insert name here] to kill someone who isn't a virgin. However, you are not good enough for the mafia, so if the mafia shoots you, your shot will be overridden. One can visit

1xStalker - You are the Stalker, the Town Watcher! Each night you choose one person to watch/stalk, and you will know who visited that person that night. Can Visit

1xKidnapper - You are the Kidnapper, the Town Jailer! Each time there is a no-lynch, you may choose one person to kidnap. The kidnapped will be immune to night actions and will not be able to perform night actions. Can't Visit unless No Lynch, so won't count.

1xMoralist - You the Moralist, the Paranoid Gun Owner! Anyone who visits you within the night will be shot by you.

1xSkirt Lifter - You are the Skirt Lifter, the Town Cop! Each night you choose someone to skirt lift/investigate. You will know if they are aligned with the town or mafia. Can visit

1xWomanizer - You are the Womanizer, the Town Drunk! Each night you choose someone to roleblock. They will not be able to perform night actions. Can Visit

1xClingy Whipped Boy - You are the Clingy Whipped Boy, the Town Bodyguard! Each night you choose someone to save, and you also send me heads or tails. If you choose someone that will die, I will flip a coin. If it lands on what you chose, you will kill the attacker. If it lands on the other side, you will die in place of the victim. Dead

2xAlpha Male - You are an Alpha Male, a Town Bulletproof! You can survive one extra night shooting, so it will take 2 shots to bring you down. You can still be lynched, however. Can't Visit

1xCockbite - You are the Cockbite, the Town Lightkeeper! If you are lynched, the next day, people will have to pm me their vote. No-one will know who voted who, and once a majority has been reached, someone will die. Otherwise just a needledick. Can't Visit

1xTransvestite - You are the Transvestite, the Town Miller! You appear as an Average Guy to yourself and as mafia to cops. Can't Visit

Mafia

3xCunt - You are a Cunt, out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here] Can't Visit

1xHooker - You are the Hooker, the Mafia Roleblocker! You are out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here]. Each night you may choose one player to roleblock, who will be incapable of performing night actions. Can Visit

1xCaptivator - You are the Captivator, the Mafia Silencer! You are out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies Can Visit

Ok looks like that's a count of 4-3, because the Mafia can kill a Town member as well.  Well it's up to you guys, but I think it's better, since they're 100% town so we won't lynch them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 19:42:08

Ran out of space with the paste, but the lawyer for the mafia is also dead, so they can't visit.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/06/09 at 19:48:07

1xDominatrix - You are the Dominatrix, the Mafia Framer! You are out to get those guys for being so horny, with your mafia buddies [Insert names here]. Each night you may choose one person to become your slave, and they will appear as mafia to the cops.

This is considered visiting as well, making it 4-4.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 19:57:51

Ok, never mind then.  I thought town had an advantage in terms of visitors.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/06/09 at 21:43:00

Speaking of the moralist, if he openly claims, there will (SHOULD) be at least two other people who openly claim moralist afterwards.  Those people suddenly become free at night, and probably won't be voted for in the day.  You can't night action them.  If the Mafia saw the real moralist claim, their best play would be to have one of their own claim, and suddenly we have a standstill.  The mafia could also claim their guy to be moralist first.  This role is a bit tricky.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/06/09 at 22:00:46

You know what i hate about this game? I posted how i felt that booth was acting like an idiot, spamming the topic, and being useless, and then he admits to it all and then accuses me of being mafia. Yup, that makes a lot of sense. *claps sarcastically*

I still dont like the fact that you had to state that you were the first person to be suspect of flo. Do you want a medal? The town did what they had to do, and we did it. I dont parade the fact that i voted for him the first day, so why do you feel so special?

I, however, wont vote for you today, but im still going to keep my eye on you. For now i have better people to cast a vote for.

vote: detective spril

The fact that you always have to have an excuse for why you dont post very often is troublesome. Make a good case for why we should keep you and ill take my vote off. But for now people have made some points against you, and itd be in your best interest to back yourself out of the corner.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/06/09 at 22:14:06

One more positive note for the town for saying you're the moralist.  The following scenarios occur if he doesn't say who he is.  If the mafia dies to the moralist, the whole mafia knows who the moralist is, so they won't die again.  However if the town dies for it, they could die again, because they don't know who it is.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/06/09 at 22:23:31

The moralist killing 2 town is probably just as valuable as killing one mafia.  The mafia are likely to target the same people at night as the town special powers will, the people who are suspicious.  Seems so far the moralist must be keeping him/herself hidden.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Etch on 03/06/09 at 22:25:29

Votes so far.

Alex - 3 (MVT, Booth, In Hiding)
Spril - 2 (Kmacc, Jabes)
Stinson - 2 (Sword, Sully)
Booth - 1 (Honko)
Dragon - 1 (Howes)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/06/09 at 22:31:37

Wouldnt that be three votes for him?

Edit- didnt see that he changed it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/06/09 at 22:42:47

Don't quite understand why Alex is leading in votes.  At the moment I'm split between April and Booth.  They were both my personal suspects in the early days (Day 1 I think), but when I pointed them out shit started to fly, so I'll hold off for now.  A pair of votes on each should be enough to get them talking (or lying through their teeth!).  Altogether, I think town is doing better so far on Day 3, it is more calm as we have lost most of the spam artists.  The biggest worry I have now is that people will screw up at night, and we will lynch townies by day.

There are five mafias remaining, let's get them!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/06/09 at 22:50:01

Alex is leading in votes because he posts a bunch of things to help the town, and rather than killing him, the mafia wants us to lynch him, or so it seems. Its entirely possible that im thinking way too much, but penev isnt exactly off my list of possible suspects just yet.

Either way i think we should keep an eye on the people who have votes and their respective posts thereafter.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by In Hiding on 03/07/09 at 03:05:06

unvote alex,

vote april

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Darius on 03/07/09 at 03:12:03

Just a couple of quick notes:

I'm out and about quite a lot this weekend so I won't be able to post as much as I have been, just in case anyone starts commenting on my lower activity.

I definitely agree that something seemed a bit off about April's response to the deaths. It all seemed a little staged to me. Let's see how she responds to more pressure.

Vote: April

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/07/09 at 03:54:02


55646D6D55606D64010 wrote:
Booth is a townie.  He seems very interested to help and has made many good posts.
...
Keep the Penev bandwagon rolling!

You're a hypocrite, MVT :)


557B6877705C71716A761E0 wrote:
Keep in mind that I did accurately predict Flo was mafia and pleaded with you all not to lynch sportsguy and was nearly 100% certain he was a townie.

You also wanted Brutus/Adam gone instead of Sportsguy, plus you voted Scott and me. So your strike rate is not too high. You voted for me despite saying I'm a "minor light suspicion". Are you saying you don't have bigger suspects?


There's no point lynching stinson. If the mafia are wasting the silencer on him, let them keep wasting it. If we lynch him, the mafia's plan would have succeeded and they'll start silencing someone worth silencing.
@Sword, @sully: you should consider retracting your stinson votes.



02252238292226231C233B293E4C0 wrote:
Alex is leading in votes because he posts a bunch of things to help the town, and rather than killing him, the mafia wants us to lynch him.

Well, with Padzup gone, I can't be protected anymore. The mafia might get me tonight, or will purposely leave me to make me lynch-worthy. It's a bit ironic, because either way you'll find out I'm townie. If they leave me then you can pretty sure I'm townie (that's why they would leave me), but if they get me then you'll have to find out about it from Lenny.
You could argue that there's a chance I'm mafia after all, but if I was so suspicious then the cop would have scanned me already and Flo never got to use his role of faking the cop's scan.

If you want to protect me, the watcher should let me be one of his/her threats to be watched tonight. But how would the watcher make a threat without revealing? The town would need to come to a consensus about who the 2 (or 3?) watch targets will be.



My biggest suspects atm are: April, karterfreak, MVT, Sully.
April and Karterfreak are strange not only for their posts, but also their vote patterns. On both days they ignored the town-divisive 50/50 split vote and voted for strange targets. That's a little fishy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 04:56:22

to clear some stuff up.  I am not the first person to suspect Flo.  I actually was maybe in the middle of the assumption.   All I really did was aid in it.  I knew Sportsguy wasn't mafia too.  Outside of that, my other votes were completely bogus.  Oh yes, the flo thing I stated in defense of voting for him, cause someone brought it up as a suspected reason for being mafia, so of course I'm going to make it sound a little better than it is.  Medal.... na... hopefully I can just live 1 more day despite that.

We do agree Jabes that Stinson voting is not the right thing to do, so at least we agree on that.  I also agree on the "idiot" label, although strong, but I explained why and even if it's not really all that acceptable, it is what it is.  Why not agree, it's true?  Sure as hell not going to make me less of a subject whether I agree or try to fight it, so no point when it's true.  But ya, maybe I don't really suspect you, but I'm just doing it to see how you or others react.  If others immediately voted for you, I'd very extremely suspicious but nobody did.  I think I'm seeing some smarter play this time, so I'll ramp it up and play a little less haphazardly and help a tiny bit more this time.  

Unfortunately I don't have much to add or any strong suspects this time around.  Still way too many people vs mafia in.  Honko and Scott perhaps at my top, then Penev and a few others as moderate to low.  April... not going to go Sportsguy on that one.  I think I'll just give that one a 25/75 against lynching her, but I wouldn't really be surprised either way there.  I don't suspect her, but I haven't payed much attention to her either.

Either way for now, Honko or Scott would get me to change off the Penev vote, otherwise I'll stay th ere for the time being, just cause he's the only person I have on the moderate list that is getting any votes.  What good is it for me to vote for someone nobody believes is mafia when I have little or no proof.  More like no proof.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/07/09 at 05:36:22

Unvote

Seeing as noone is going to vote for him today, there is no point me holding my vote against him. As Alex said, that might be the mafia's plan, keep silencing him until we lynch him.

But don't neglect the possibilty of the mafia not using the silencer move, and stinson pretending to be silenced, when he is mafia.

My main reason for voting him was that he is being completely useless, but I realise that if we lynch him and he was silenced the whole time, the mafia will move onto someone else to silence.

People who claim to be town are doing weird shit to confuse us. Like what Booth was doing, I find it strange.

And no, I don't think that if someone claims a role and noone else claims it, that they are 100% legit. But I do feel that Tom is being honest, so I hold no suspicion against him.

Whats the reason behind the Penev bandwagon? Even if he is mafia (which I'm doubting atm) he is posting lots of potential strategies and techniques for the town to use, and is a great asset. Lynching him because he is "over-analysing" just seems silly to me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/07/09 at 06:49:53

well it looks like you guys really suspect april......

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/07/09 at 07:22:54

I've been reading this topic for 2.5 hours now, and only got to page 20  (day 1) :o I also skimmed though the last page, and i like what im seeing. April hasn't really been helpful at all throughout the game and could very well be mafia.

Vote April for now, though i still need to read a lot. Oh, please dont end the day early as i'm not finished yet.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/07/09 at 07:55:50

@Ivo: if you're saying that you'll read every page, that means you'll probably read the topic more carefully than some other other people playing. Should we be expecting a lot of your thoughts once you're done?

@MVT: you don't suspect April?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/07/09 at 08:51:15

what happened to oneshot? he hasnt posted yet this day, could he be silenced? if so, that would give us two people remaining silent today...
can a mod/admin clarify if he's been on the forum since the day started?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 09:33:03

ya one shot has been strangely and unconventionally silent.  Ya Penev is really the only person I suspect a little, but ya, I gotta vote for someone.  If I just go no vote then nobody puts pressure on anyone, and nobody jumps on the wagon and hopefully gives me clues and reasons to either suspect or not suspect mafia.  Same as if they vote or someone else.

I can be convinced to take my vote off Penev.  It would take some doing to be convinced to vote for April but I'd at least consider it unlike Sportsguy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/07/09 at 10:05:24

I will be absent from now until 12:00 am GMT.
Sorry but I won't help that much for this day :(

Hopefully I will put some thoughts and cast a vote before someone got lynched, April seems to be the main target atm.

I agree that she has spent most of his time complaining about not being able to post and defending herself, she could be very well mafia, but like Matt and Tim I guess she was busy those last days...
If the situation does not change by tomorrow, I could consider voting for her, but Booth seems more suspicious for me as for now...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/07/09 at 10:32:56

Ivo: Don't forget that 18 of my posts are missing.  You can see evidence of the framework in quoted posts and where people ended up with doubles.

One note for end of day stuff: I think with a certain amount of time left (an hour, maybe), someone needs to post a clear list of what each night role should do (like 3 choices for watcher, etc), or at least the parts that we want mafia to know about.  Then there needs to be about 5 people posting to confirm that we will do exactly that move.  This will 1.)scare the mafia from going to the 3 watched people because they know it's going to happen; and 2.)make all the town's powers know for sure that the plan is in action.  We can't just have one person say "We're doing the plan like THIS" and expect all the town powers to carry it out, we need people to confirm it is going to go down.

Tom: Your unvote was not proper.  If you're actually wanting to vote for April you should do so again, using a proper bolded unvote before making the vote: april again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/07/09 at 11:27:58

April, I gave you a chance to say what you think, and you just made one post and left.  I was looking for more continuous output from you, not just one small post.  The fact that I referenced you and you still won't talk much makes you a #1 suspect in my book.

Vote: April

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 11:45:12

Looks like April might be getting the axe.  I'm not ready to change my vote to that, even if I'm now the true second suspect here.  As much as I would like to save my bacon now, I think that would just give more true/false evidence of me being mafia.  It would be quite incriminating.  Either way, as a chance to rectify past wrongs, for those considering/going to vote for me with conditions right, what would possibly change your mind/eliminate that consideration?  Just curious, and I'll actually make a stab at some actual responses now that post quantity is down, and I can actually keep up with things.  I'll be unavailable after 230pm my time (pacific) until sunday in the AM hours, but until that point I'll do my best to respond to inquiry's on here cause hell I definitely want to play longer whether I'm mafia or not :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/07/09 at 11:58:54


47697A65624E636378640C0 wrote:
Either way for now, Honko or Scott would get me to change off the Penev vote, otherwise I'll stay th ere for the time being, just cause he's the only person I have on the moderate list that is getting any votes.  What good is it for me to vote for someone nobody believes is mafia when I have little or no proof.  More like no proof.

Why are you suspicious of people if you have no evidence against them?


Quote:
Looks like April might be getting the axe.  I'm not ready to change my vote to that, even if I'm now the true second suspect here.  As much as I would like to save my bacon now, I think that would just give more true/false evidence of me being mafia.  It would be quite incriminating.  Either way, as a chance to rectify past wrongs, for those considering/going to vote for me with conditions right, what would possibly change your mind/eliminate that consideration?  Just curious, and I'll actually make a stab at some actual responses now that post quantity is down, and I can actually keep up with things.  I'll be unavailable after 230pm my time (pacific) until sunday in the AM hours, but until that point I'll do my best to respond to inquiry's on here cause hell I definitely want to play longer whether I'm mafia or not Smiley

What?  Why are you trying so hard to look suspicious?  If I didn't already have my vote on you, I definitely would now.



1F25023E37221711393932023E3F3831560 wrote:
One note for end of day stuff: I think with a certain amount of time left (an hour, maybe), someone needs to post a clear list of what each night role should do (like 3 choices for watcher, etc), or at least the parts that we want mafia to know about.  Then there needs to be about 5 people posting to confirm that we will do exactly that move.  This will 1.)scare the mafia from going to the 3 watched people because they know it's going to happen; and 2.)make all the town's powers know for sure that the plan is in action.  We can't just have one person say "We're doing the plan like THIS" and expect all the town powers to carry it out, we need people to confirm it is going to go down.

I violently disagree with the idea of waiting till the last hour and then have one person pick the 3 names and everyone left agree.  For one thing it excludes all non-Americans from having a say in the decision.  And there's really no point in having just one person pick out the 3 names.  We should work out who the potential watch targets are together through the rest of the day.

1. Stinson - because we would either find the silencer, or else he'd have to talk on the next day
2. open
3. open

2 and 3 should be people we want to protect.  Everyone seems to be sure Darius is town, so maybe he should be one of them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/07/09 at 12:05:17

Vote count according to William's Completely Unreliable Vote Counting Machine

5 April - dragondragon, Jabes, Kmacc, Ivootjes, Darius
3 Penev - In Hiding, Booth, MVT
1 dragondragon - Howes
1 Stinson - sully
1 Booth - Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/07/09 at 12:06:32

Hey Kevin, are you TRYING to make yourself look like the most suspicious person ever or what?  This isn't making much sense at all.  Your last few days of posting have painted a brilliant picture of you as a mafia member, and you don't seem to be changing from that position at all.  In fact, this is how you've been the whole game.  What's up Booth?

The only reason I wouldn't go with a vote on you at this point is if you hadn't made all these posts defending April and others.  It's fine to sit on the fence for a time (hell, I am too), but defending your position atop it isn't necessary!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 12:08:35

Well if I was mafia I obviously would be pleading for my life instead of offering the possibility.  Plus aren't we all townies deep down inside?  The point being were all suspects really, so why be all like adamant that I am not mafia?  Seems like a weak and stupid thing to do and very unoriginal.  And yes come on we all want to survive no matter what team were on so we can help our team win, whichever it is.  Just stating the obvious instead of making stupid references saying I'm a townie for sure, when there is clearly evidence out there that at least puts me in doubt I am a townie.  However, I wouldn't say in my opinion that it is near enough to make me mafia even though I'm easily a top 5 suspect now.  However, just my opinion, and if it's not shared, it's to my peril.

Ok, I think i'll probably not be able to persuade you Honk, but just in case, I offer a removal from my suspect list and a verbal agreement not to vote for you during this day or to do any night actions against you if I was capable of such things.  Deal or No Deal, or you got a different proposal?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 12:12:21

in response to Scott.... I am just trying not to be all... I am TOWNIE... NO WAY I AM MAFIA... YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME... WAAAA WAAAA WAAAA..... Just pathetic.  If you feel strongly I am mafia, you have to take care of me, simple as that, but if someone is more dangerous out there, or you have reasonable doubt, I feel you shouldn't, but hey I can't tell you all how to play the game, it's your choice, so do what you gotta do, and I have to be ok with it.  I just can only state I want to play longer, and of course, I'm saying I'm a townie, but I wish not to declare my role now.

And as much as I get along well with April outside of here, I can't really back her not to get voted now, but I'm actually not on the fence yet to vote for her, but I can be persuaded with more evidence.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 12:45:05

5 Mafia left
17 Town left 6 Needledicks, 1 Tranny, 10 other special roles

My Guesses: (won't obviously reveal thoughts of who are special townies to protect the innocent)

1. Honko- Mafia Hooker (reason: seems like he would make a great role blocker with things he's
said vs anyone else out there.)
2. Extol - Mafia Cunt (Reason: Been on the suspect list a bunch, and I figure I'm out of people to
guess Mafia so I think he's a reasonable canadate)
3. IsThatAGoodThing -Mafia Dominatrix (Reason: lots of mass misinformation to try to find roles of
people so he can enslave them and get a false lynch via cop scan.)
4. In Hiding -Town (Reason: just a little too helpful either by accident or on purpose)
5. Syzygy -Town (Reason: no reason to suspect him)
6. Darius -Town (Reason: Has provided decent information)
7. SuperYoshi1 -Town (Reason: seems innocent in his posts to me)
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734] -Town (Reason: has been timely in his help)
11. dragondragon- Town (Reason: Where in the world did his suspicion come from?  Pretty out of
nowhere.)
12. nstinson -Mafia Silencer (probably silencing himself lol) Reason: Does he ever make sense
without a puppetmaster helping?
13. Fababu -Town (Reason: no reason to suspect him)
15. Kmacc -Town (Reason: seems conservative enough)
16. karterfreak -Town (Reason: I know him way too well outside of the game, he doesn't have to
tell me a thing here or outside to know he's town)
17. Detective Spril -Town (Reason: light suspicion but just not enough for me to consider yet)
19. Howes -Town (reason: Has been careful not to vote for me too fast, but yet still suspects me)
20. Jabes -Town (reason: putting me in my place)
22. Adam L (replaced) -Town (Reason: Just general Playing Style)
24. sully -Town (reason: not even bothering to defend himself)
25. AlexPenev -Mafia Cunt (moderate suspicion due to acting like he has a plan so we go with it
and protect his buddies)
26. MVT -Town (Reason: very brave to be throwing votes out)
27. Kevin Booth -Town (reason: you need to believe me... DONT VOTE FOR ME.... NOOOOO!)
28. oneshotbillyII -Town (reason: not talking much, cause you know he'd be flaming otherwise)

Dead people:

14. Flo1 (Dead Mafia Single Female Lawyer via Town Lynching-D1) - 6 mafia remain
10. %hat - (Dead Mafia Cunt via Vigilante action -N1) -5 mafia remain
23. Etch - (Dead Needledick due to Mafia Strike -N1) - 8 needledicks remain
8. Sportsguy001 (Dead needledick via town lynching -D2) -7 needledicks remain
21. Brutus (needledick Death Via a modkill: Suspected serious rule violations) -6 needledicks
remain
18. Padzup (dead bodyguard died for unknown reasons -N2) - 10 special townies remain




EDIT: Isthatagoodthing suspected role.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/07/09 at 13:59:52

Unvote

I'm kind of undecided between April and Booth.  Anyone care to sway me?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/07/09 at 14:03:29

I was leaning toward Booth as all he's saying is total bollocks.  Splitting the vote again today going to be a good thing or not?

Let's go with this for now.

Vote Booth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/07/09 at 14:06:10

We can at least threaten to lynch booth... if he tells us his role then we can maybe protect him with the watcher instead of lynching him?

Vote Booth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 14:25:10

yep I think I am had.  So I have to reveal role to get the votes off me?  HMMMM not thinking it's a good idea.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/07/09 at 14:38:25

April is mafia, you guys should be voting for her.

Booth is most likely townie, idk if he has a role though as he states. He is throwing around votes enough in order for the mafia to keep him around because they feel he makes things harder to nail down a single person. Anyone who does this will probably be safe from getting killed at night by mafia because they like people who throw votes around and don't let solid bandwagons start.

April on the other hand, has done absolutely nothing to help herself out. I think just by her posting style, it is fairly obvious that something is wrong with how she says things. If you guys can't see through that than town is just going to continue to make stupid lynches and we'll lose.

Like I said mafia is letting us kill ourselves without doing very much at all. Do you guys even care to put a stop to that and be smart about our lynches?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 14:41:10

very well posted, and no, nobody really cares about being smart.  If we don't like someone for any reason, we just Lynch them :)

Something just occurred to me.  I know how Pad Died now!  He protected me!  It makes sense since was my biggest supporter.  Sorry Pad about that, but thank you for letting me live another day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 14:45:34

oh ya, I saw Stinson in here earlier checking out the topic, but never replyed so ya I know he saw this so the pud silenced himself again :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/07/09 at 14:48:29

Booth is very confusing to me after reading the last page or so. It seems like he wants pressure on himself, but for what reason? i havent been able to figure that out yet. the way hes saying things, though, makes it seem like hes a townie, because i wouldnt think a mafia would come out and say "hey, put some votes on me, you dont know if i'm town or mafia, but i could be either." so we have a 50/50 chance with him, my opinion is leaning about 70/30 in favor of him being town though.

April, as others have said, looks like she has something fishy going on. I'm not sure what it is, but i want to see what she has to say to see if i can pick it up again. it might be her post style, or that shes just trying too hard to defend herself, as others have said. i want to wait and see where this goes with her.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/07/09 at 14:54:11

April's been fishy since Day 1 and every time I mention her she just explodes back at me, so I'm not even going to go there lol.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/07/09 at 15:12:21

Vote: Spril

I'm a bit confused by your post style.  It's too "thought out" i.e. it seems too much like you are trying too hard to not make a mistake or write something which may be thought of as suspicious but it's backfiring.  Your posts all see the same and your voting has been rather strange.

Everyone has their own post style, but yours seems totally manufactured IMO.  You can still get my vote off; I just want to hear some good defence.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/07/09 at 15:23:03

Just wanted to point out to you Tim that you didn't bold your vote.

Also @Tom, you forgot to unvote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/07/09 at 15:32:09

we need to be more strict.

those 2 votes are invalid until they are properly done.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/07/09 at 15:32:16

I already pointed that out to Tom.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/07/09 at 15:33:05

Those votes are obviously invalid, MVT.  Shouldn't even have to be pointed out.  If Lenny hadn't been so hurried at the end of Day 2, Brutus would've been killed instead of Tyler because Lenny didn't bother to check the votes properly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/07/09 at 15:36:21

Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/07/09 at 15:37:56


655A43435846495F2C0 wrote:
I've been reading this topic for 2.5 hours now, and only got to page 20  (day 1) :o I also skimmed though the last page, and i like what im seeing. April hasn't really been helpful at all throughout the game and could very well be mafia.

Vote April for now, though i still need to read a lot. Oh, please dont end the day early as i'm not finished yet.


I have to ask this due to the amount of suspicion Adam had last day.

Are you a needledick?

 Yes / No

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 16:06:06

unvote

vote: goodgamed


lol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 16:10:27

ok, but seriously, looks like people are coming around and are not willing to just leap on me for now, I thought I was going to have to go on suicide watch for awhile ;)

Either way looks like April's going to be given the early boot most likely.  Wish I could give a sportsguy type support this time around, but this time around, there has been at least some suspicion on and off.  Still not totally sure she's mafia, but I'll be keeping my eye open.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 16:11:10

oh yes

unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/07/09 at 16:38:54

I think town needs to start making quicker decisions from now on.  We really shouldn't need the full 72 hours to decide.  Hell last time we waited to the last minute, we failed badly.  We should try to make a choice in the first 48 hours.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/07/09 at 16:42:14

Who do people think we should "protect" with the watcher?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/07/09 at 16:48:13

I'm still a fan of watching Stinson.  That way he'll have to talk tomorrow if he doesn't get visited.  Then he has one day to convince he's not mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/07/09 at 17:01:54


18292020182D20294C0 wrote:
Suspects
Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu
The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]

What makes you no longer suspect Scott and SuperYoshi?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/07/09 at 17:57:26

Their posting styles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/07/09 at 17:58:22

Man, booth, i just dont know what to think about you, but for now im going to believe youre a townie despite the backlash against me that may ensue. A lot about your posts lead me to believe that youre mafia, but i have this gut feeling that youre a townie. Im going to go with my gut this one time. Please dont make a fool out of me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/07/09 at 18:08:24

Why are people deliberately posting in a confusing style, if they are town. It just doesn't make sense to me. >_<

Not gonna hop on the April bandwagon until I've heard more from her. I'd like to hear her opinions of the other players and her outlook of their behaviour, instead of her coming in to defend herself, then leaving again.

I swear to god, If it turns out that stinson wasn't silenced, I will go crazy. He is just cruising through this without having to make the slightest of an effort. And it's really irritating.

Slightly more suspicious of Booth with the whole "We are all town deep on the inside" attitude, but he is a contributer to the game and he wants to play, so lets not get rid of him yet. There are more suspicious people, imo.

Not placing a vote just yet, waiting for more time to pass so we can analyse more.

Going to bed now, 2AM. I will check here tomorrow and post my vote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by In Hiding on 03/07/09 at 18:11:19


16272E2E16232E27420 wrote:
Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


i'm with you on this list

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/07/09 at 20:14:25

unvote

So basically, we have got nowhere today. Day ends in about 26 hours, right? We need to figure something out by then.

My vote on drag was mostly seeing what people think about it, and people generally seem to think it's a bad idea. It mostly seems to have been ignored, though.

New suspect: Sword

You've mostly been quiet, but that's not what I'm confused about. I'm more concerned about Day 1, where you said that you wouldn't bandwagon vote, but then changed your vote to Flo 15 minutes later, after seeing that Tom had some votes on him. You also had no vote at the end of Day 2, which could mean that you didn't want to be seen on a town bandwagon if you were mafia. I'm just getting a weird feeling about you.

Vote: Sword

I don't think you have had votes on you this game, so let's see how you react to a little pressure. You seem to like bringing up stinson, but that's about it so far.

edit: took out the stars in the vote so it looks right on Lacey's program.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/07/09 at 21:00:00

April was viewing the topic within the last hour and chose not to post. That further solidifies my suspicion against her.

I say thats a monumental gesture on her part, and i would not like to see the town take it lightly. She needs to speak up or face the consequences...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/07/09 at 21:12:45

hmm, that does seem suspicious, considering the fact that shes got several votes against her. If she saw that and didnt even post to defend herself or anything, what does that mean? also, looking through her posts, it looks like shes trying too hard to defend herself, and shes doing more defending than bringing anything new to the game...

maybe if we put some more pressure on her she'll speak up..

vote: April


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/07/09 at 21:27:06

Yeah I came back tonight and found April had talked a bit about her status, in IRC.  She basically said she was going to come back tomorrow to read all she's missed (LOL, there's not much), and that she would post then.

April's obviously not caring too much about this, as she's hardly following along.  Her posts keep trying to defend herself, but it's not working that well.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/07/09 at 21:48:08

Personally I think this whole business about "reading the topic and not posting" is BS.  There could be any number of reasons why someone would read the topic and then not post.  And just because it says someone is reading the topic doesn't mean they actually "read" the topic.  I dont let that information influence my decision making.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/07/09 at 21:50:57

The point is that she has already viewed the topic and had the time to post, but chose not to. If she wanted to prove herself, she would have taken the effort to justify her actions. She didnt, so she must go...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/07/09 at 21:54:02

It only speaks volumes when you already have votes stacked against you. Viewing a topic and not posting is acceptable if you were one of the last posters or if you have already said whats on your mind.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/07/09 at 21:57:18


13222B2B13262B22470 wrote:
Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


Lol that you suspect me, I'm being much more helpful and and sensible than you are. Pretty sure I can say confidently that Honko and Penev are both 100% townie, other two though are suspicious in at least a small way.

If you people cannot see through April by now though then there is no hope for you guys.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 23:22:50

ya as much as I like April and such, and that she's been ok on her when she is on here, but ya, even though I know she's catching up tomorrow, one thing the town has spoken strongly about is that we do need to decide what we are going to do before the deadline this time, so even though I'm not really sure she's mafia myself, you all make good points, so to be more helpful to the town.

Vote: DetectiveSpril

nothing personal, but if it's either me or you, it's got to be you.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 23:42:09

Role Discussion:

X2 Virgins (I think 1 virgin has been compromised in some way.  Not sure exactly how, but I think they
have been.)
X1 Stalker (we need to threaten to watch the virgin that has been compromised.  That will then prevent a night kill by the mafia that I think will go down tonight)
X1 Kidnapper (not going to be used for awhile)
X1 Moralist (I'm against them revealing themselves.  We still got a couple mafia that can't just role block or enslave just anyone with them out there.  We just need to be careful too.)
X1Skirt Lifter (scan anyone you feel is slipping under the radar that we are clearly not trying to lynch)
X1Womanizer (must be really careful as to not block one of our night actions on this one.  Use this power sparingly)
X2 Alpha Male(Dead obvious what you guys do)
X1 Cockbite (hide well)
X1 Transvestite (as more needledicks die, the odds of you being this person goes way up so keep this in mind, and don't be surprised you are on the chopping block all of a sudden falsely.)

Dear Mafia:  Please Silence Scott God Damn it!!!!!  Why Silence a guy that doesn't talk in the first place?  lol.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/07/09 at 23:42:23


1C37302C315E0 wrote:
Who do people think we should "protect" with the watcher?

Anyone want to put in some input on this?  The plan is we have the watcher threaten to watch one of 3 people: Stinson, and 2 people we want to protect.  The silencer should be too scared to touch Stinson, and the rest of the mafia should be too scared to kill any of the 3, because if the watcher catches them, we've got a mafia.  Even if the watcher doesn't personally agree with this plan, they don't have to say anything in the topic about it, the mafia will still be too scared to touch those 3.  So, who do people want to protect?

Also, where the hell is oneshot?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/07/09 at 23:45:48

Ok, even if you voted for me you putz, If I am this watcher person, I pledge to either watch Nathan Stinson, the virgin I feel was compromised, and one random person that I draw out of a hat.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Fababu on 03/08/09 at 00:49:08


6B7770727E6C78672E1F0 wrote:
[quote author=16272E2E16232E27420 link=1235628670/1275#1279 date=1236468981]Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


i'm with you on this list[/quote]

Everyone has his own list of suspicious, that's nice.
Everyone is free to post that list, that's nice because you're exposing your ideas and you're trying to help the rest of the townies.
But posting a list whithout giving any explanation... that's what I hate. You'll only confuse the townies, or at least this is what happens to me, because no one on that list is suspicious for me at this point of the game. I don't mind if I appear on one of that list, because I know that I'm a townie; anyway I will like to know what makes you doubt of me. I'm leaving for a basket match now, I will make a post when I return about the actual votes; btw, could anyone post the tally of votes and how many hours remains to the end of the day?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 00:50:10

Interesting, Kevin.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/08/09 at 01:09:16


6F41524D4A664B4B504C240 wrote:
X2 Virgins (I think 1 virgin has been compromised in some way.  Not sure exactly how, but I think they have been.)

The vigs can only be compromised if the mafia roleblocked them, which they obviously haven't yet because the vigs have made a kill each night. There is no way they're compromised. The only way you can feel that a vigilante has been compromised is if you yourself are either the watcher or the other vigilante. In which case the mafia will be killing you tonight.


Quote:
Ok, even if you voted for me you putz, If I am this watcher person, I pledge to either watch Nathan Stinson, the virgin I feel was compromised, and one random person that I draw out of a hat.

Do you know if the watcher knows who is this "virgin I feel was compromised"? What if only you know who that person is? You will have to somehow name the person for anyone besides you to know who it is. As soon as you name them, the mafia will read the name. So there's no way your plan can work unless you are already the watcher. Your previous paragraph also suggests that you are either the watcher or the non-compromised vigilante. I really don't understand your plan.  :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/08/09 at 01:14:01

@Honko: I'm not sure if selecting Stinson as one of the three is a great idea. I said before that if the mafia is genuinely silencing him, why not let the keep wasting it? It's not like he's talking, and he's probably not very dangerous to us because there are plenty of other mafia who ARE talking. We should be trying to figure them out first. If we name Stinson as one of the three, the mafia will begin to silence someone worth silencing. Maybe that's what they want? To somehow be free of Stinson and have made a better choice? We should do things that screw up their desires the most. In this case, why not protect 3 useful people, and wait to see the results of the April/vigilante kills tonight? We can always get Stinson later.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/08/09 at 05:32:12

Finally back, surprised to see only 2 new pages to read [smiley=lolk.gif]
April still hasn't posted since the last time i was online, this is too weird when you are the most suspected here and leading on the tally votes... Is she too busy again, or is she out of ideas how to defend herself and give something to post ?
If you don't care to post anymore at that point, I don't see why we should keep you on the game...

Vote : Detective Spril

Hope you'll post before the day ends or 12 votes are on you (what is the vote count btw ?)

Booth's posting style is really confusing, I haven't been able to understand everything >__<
Don't know what to think about him now, still on my suspicious list though

And oneshot needs to post at least one thing (doesn't matter what) to be sure that he didn't get silenced [smiley=lolk.gif]
No seriously he is the least contributer here outside of stinson, why does he play ? :-X

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/08/09 at 05:36:27


527F766B43767D7665130 wrote:
[quote author=6F41524D4A664B4B504C240 link=1235628670/1300#1301 date=1236498129]
X2 Virgins (I think 1 virgin has been compromised in some way.  Not sure exactly how, but I think they have been.)

The vigs can only be compromised if the mafia roleblocked them, which they obviously haven't yet because the vigs have made a kill each night. There is no way they're compromised. The only way you can feel that a vigilante has been compromised is if you yourself are either the watcher or the other vigilante. In which case the mafia will be killing you tonight.
[/quote]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the vigilantes made a kill last night. That is, unless you know something I don't about their workings, like if they tried to kill a bulletproof or got roleblocked.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/08/09 at 05:49:00

^We don't know for sure who made the Padzup kill last night, but admitting the mafia did, that would that either one of the vigs got blocked, or they hit a bulletproof (meaning by the way thet found a townie)
The only way to know is for the vigs or the watcher to reveal informations about this night, thing we cannot permit now...

Btw Alex, someone who post less or not at all does not mean necessary that he is less dangerous than the others... :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 06:43:40

ya, I can't always post perfectly clear cause I really don't want the mafia to know if I have a power role or not.  I am sure they got a big list of people that they have their roles written down on, and I don't want them to know which kinda townie I am.

I really think one of the vigs are compromised, and did not make a kill.  you draw the conclusion how that happened.  I think the mafia actually tried to kill me and pad protected me, which is why he took the hit instead of me.  Guess he should have picked heads instead of tails. Man I wish someone was watching him or me last round.  We'd have known for sure.

Here is a funny thought.  If the watcher followed a mafia, and the cop scanned a Tranny, you would combine info and see a mafia killing a "mafia", lol.  And I thought this game wasn't fun before...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/08/09 at 07:02:32


2E22372B2E22243630737074430 wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the vigilantes made a kill last night. That is, unless you know something I don't about their workings, like if they tried to kill a bulletproof or got roleblocked.

I recall that Lenny's message on page 45 originally said Brutus had been killed. Lenny later changed it. Now it says Brutus was modkilled. My understanding was that Sportsguy got lynched by 1 vote more than Brutus, and then Brutus got vig killed... but then when Scott started nagging Lenny "for an hour" to undo the actions and save Sportsguy because of 2 improper votes, Lenny decided to end the debate by modkilling Brutus, which would thus make Sportsguy the lynchee and those 2 improper votes irrelevant. So by changing the reason behind Brutus's death, Lenny kept the result the same and didn't have to undo any announcements. That was my impression of the events.

It didn't surprise me that the vigilantes would have tried to kill Brutus because he was only 1 vote behind Sportsguy, and the 2 people trying to save him, MVT and Kevin, were acting very strangely.

If this is not what happened then I must have missed something.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 07:20:00


0E29393D293A24480 wrote:
[quote author=6B7770727E6C78672E1F0 link=1235628670/1275#1291 date=1236478279][quote author=16272E2E16232E27420 link=1235628670/1275#1279 date=1236468981]Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


i'm with you on this list[/quote]

Everyone has his own list of suspicious, that's nice.
Everyone is free to post that list, that's nice because you're exposing your ideas and you're trying to help the rest of the townies.
But posting a list whithout giving any explanation... that's what I hate. You'll only confuse the townies, or at least this is what happens to me, because no one on that list is suspicious for me at this point of the game. I don't mind if I appear on one of that list, because I know that I'm a townie; anyway I will like to know what makes you doubt of me. I'm leaving for a basket match now, I will make a post when I return about the actual votes; btw, could anyone post the tally of votes and how many hours remains to the end of the day?[/quote]

You don't suspect ANY of them?  Wow, that is surprisingly stupid.  Only a mafia what say that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 07:23:28


51575B59593A0 wrote:
[quote author=13222B2B13262B22470 link=1235628670/1275#1279 date=1236468981]Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


Lol that you suspect me, I'm being much more helpful and and sensible than you are. Pretty sure I can say confidently that Honko and Penev are both 100% townie, other two though are suspicious in at least a small way.

If you people cannot see through April by now though then there is no hope for you guys.[/quote]

nice contradiction!

"Pretty sure" and "100% townie".  You either have no idea what you are doing as a townie or you are a mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/08/09 at 07:24:47

@Booth- I think you have the wrong idea of what the Watcher does. The watcher observes one person, and sees who visits them, not who they visit (AFAIK).

@Alex- If that is the case, I wouldn't know, I wasn't awake at the moment. That is good to know now though.

@MVT- Stop making stupid assumptions. People have their own reasons for suspecting who they do, and there is also the chance that your list is completely wrong...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 07:27:46

Howes I would say a stupid assumption would be calling someone 100% town.  Another one is clearing a whole list of people as not mafia.

I am not voting for April until I hear something from her.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Howes on 03/08/09 at 07:31:52

Aren't you doing that with your 'Suspect List'? You seem to be focusing on 5 people, and ignoring the rest. Fababu didn't say that he believed them to be 100% town, he simply said that he didn't suspect them right now. He does have a point in saying that you don't back up your suspicions, and I also agree that I don't suspect several people on that list.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/08/09 at 07:33:05


5E6F66665E6B666F0A0 wrote:
You don't suspect ANY of them?  Wow, that is surprisingly stupid.  Only a mafia what say that.

I don't suspect any of the people you suspect.

According to Padzup's last message, he was expecting a PM from Lenny, which means he was protecting someone. But I don't buy it that he was protecting Kevin. Kevin said only minutes before the day ended that he was a special role and would need protection. Why would you do throw such a whammy seconds before the day ends and put the protector in such a crap position? The only move made that made sense to me was if Kevin was the granny and was trying to attract a mafia onto him that night. Obviously that didn't work, so Kevin should perhaps stop asking for people to visit him at night or stop confusing us ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Fababu on 03/08/09 at 07:59:03


0130393901343930550 wrote:
[quote author=0E29393D293A24480 link=1235628670/1300#1304 date=1236502148][quote author=6B7770727E6C78672E1F0 link=1235628670/1275#1291 date=1236478279][quote author=16272E2E16232E27420 link=1235628670/1275#1279 date=1236468981]Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


i'm with you on this list[/quote]

Everyone has his own list of suspicious, that's nice.
Everyone is free to post that list, that's nice because you're exposing your ideas and you're trying to help the rest of the townies.
But posting a list whithout giving any explanation... that's what I hate. You'll only confuse the townies, or at least this is what happens to me, because no one on that list is suspicious for me at this point of the game. I don't mind if I appear on one of that list, because I know that I'm a townie; anyway I will like to know what makes you doubt of me. I'm leaving for a basket match now, I will make a post when I return about the actual votes; btw, could anyone post the tally of votes and how many hours remains to the end of the day?[/quote]

You don't suspect ANY of them?  Wow, that is surprisingly stupid.  Only a mafia what say that.[/quote]

Can't you understand that no everyone shares your point of view?
BTW, my question hasn't been answered yet; why am I suspicious to you? Critizisng a person and not giving a cause for it really seems to me something only a mafia would do ^^.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 08:54:26

Fababu

Your voting patterns are stupid.

Day one you didn't even fucking vote.  What is that?  What kind of contribution is that?  It's a load of shit.

Day two you stuck to the sportsguy bandwagon like crazy glue.  You didn't even consider his later contributions or arguments.  You just stubbornly voted for him right away and wouldn't budge.  That isn't how you play the game.


So I see it as this.  Day one you knew Flo was screwed so you just gave up, sat back, and let him die.  

Day 2 you knew sportsguy was town from the get go so you just stuck with him without considering any other options.

Can I be more clear?  I am not stupid.  I think you should realize what a bad mafia you are playing.  The votes tell the whole damn story.

edit: fixed typos

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Fababu on 03/08/09 at 09:29:47

That's what I wanted to hear, thanks.


Quote:
BTW imagine my situation: if I voted for MTV/Flo (the two who most votes had at that moment), whoever have became lynched I will seem suspicious to the eyes of everyone. The same as if I voted for someone with no or just a few votes. I will try to not repeat that situation, because it gives a bad image of me.


That's a quote of my deffense of my non-vote at day 1. Believe it or not believe it, that's the fucking truth.
And yes, I didn't changed my vote of Tyler because all that probability stuff about not being mafia was weird for me and he was my suspicious #1 for that day; so I kept my vote on him.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 09:40:59


47767F7F47727F76130 wrote:
[quote author=51575B59593A0 link=1235628670/1275#1299 date=1236491838][quote author=13222B2B13262B22470 link=1235628670/1275#1279 date=1236468981]Suspects

Extol
Honko
Kmacc
AlexPenev
Fababu

The list narrows again.   [smiley=smokin.gif]


Lol that you suspect me, I'm being much more helpful and and sensible than you are. Pretty sure I can say confidently that Honko and Penev are both 100% townie, other two though are suspicious in at least a small way.

If you people cannot see through April by now though then there is no hope for you guys.[/quote]

nice contradiction!

"Pretty sure" and "100% townie".  You either have no idea what you are doing as a townie or you are a mafia.
[/quote]

You just aren't as good as you seem with this stuff. Who cares if the stupid post has those two things in it, I'll make sure next time all my posts make sense completely and everything within them is correct with the other.

The point is April is mafia. If you don't see that you are a terrible townie. Vote her and you will see she is a mafia. Even if she is mafia you could still vote to lynch me tomorrow, I don't care.

APRIL IS MAFIA.

That's all there is to it. She is playing terribly, and it's so easy to see that she's mafia. For those who are letting this slip by, then you are either a) other mafia, but those are probably the people just not posting, or b) stupid townies which wouldn't surprise me

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 09:42:40

That is a crappy defense fababu.  Your lucky I think Penev is more dangerous than you though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Fababu on 03/08/09 at 09:52:56

Vote tally:

April: 9 (KMacc, Jabes, Tom, Darius, Ivootjes, Dragon, Extol, Booth, SuperYoshi).
Booth: 3 (Honko, Scot, Sully).
Sword: 1 (Howes).
Penev: 1 (MVT).

12 Votes need to lynch.
End of the day: 12 Hours 12 Minutes.

The only one that seems mafia for me of that list is April, so:

Vote: April

Your game has been weird, you have some posts that make sense, but there are some others that seem empty of sense imo.
BTW, I hope that she posts before I go sleep with something to say.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 09:58:33

Current Vote Count:

9 - April (Kmacc, Jabes, Darius, Ivo, dragondragon, Extol, Booth, SuperYoshi, fababu)
3 - Booth (Honko, IsThatAGoodThing, Sully)
2 - Penev (MVT, In Hiding)
1 - Sword (Howes)

Not voting: Penev, nstinson, oneshot, karterfreak, detective spril, sword, syzygy

12 votes are needed for a lynch.

12 Hours left.

Edit:Whatever I just edited this to fix it up to what fababu had cause I wasn't gonna delete the post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 09:59:26

^I was way late with that lol. Disregard it and go by fababu's in the previous post to mine.

Edit: I guess disregard this cause I edited my list. Not going to delete because people will probably complain even though this has no info about my thoughts.

Sorry for this stupid double post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 10:25:55

Alex: About the night situation again, Lenny was already 100% set on modkilling brutus at the start of Day 3.  He made that very clear.  If his post really did originally say "killed," it was just a simple error which he corrected.  The "debate" over the situation was a full 24 hours before the topic was reopened, so he had things straightened out as far as what he wanted to do by then anyway.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 11:22:51

so it still makes it possible that pad protected me.  Looks like the mafia will finish the job on me tonight unless someone wants to offer a sacrifice.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/08/09 at 11:47:51

Sorry I didn't bold my vote.

Vote: Spril

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 11:51:27

Why are you so convinced that Padz protected you, Kevin?


April's got 10 votes on her now, as Tom still didn't correct his improper vote.  It's probably too late to make any changes as the town's well set on April, it seems, for today.  I would consider switching my vote over, but the ending time we've been having (like 10hrs from now) is pretty good for me so I'll try to support that ending time staying in business.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 11:52:42

no comment.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Syzygy on 03/08/09 at 11:53:28

Booth you are lucky Spril is suspected because you'd be out of here.  Your post style is so weird and retarded :S

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 11:57:59

Yes but Booth is probably townie because mafia will keep him around since you guys think he's suspicious. Booth, mafia isn't going to kill you tonight because they know townies want to lynch you so they will keep you around.

Booth's post aren't completely confusing anyway, and he does enough for me to consider him a townie.

April however, is mafia. End of story.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 11:58:13

don't worry mafia will be lynching me tonight I'm about 50% sure.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/08/09 at 12:05:37


5B767F624A7F747F6C1A0 wrote:
@Honko: I'm not sure if selecting Stinson as one of the three is a great idea. I said before that if the mafia is genuinely silencing him, why not let the keep wasting it? It's not like he's talking, and he's probably not very dangerous to us because there are plenty of other mafia who ARE talking. We should be trying to figure them out first. If we name Stinson as one of the three, the mafia will begin to silence someone worth silencing. Maybe that's what they want? To somehow be free of Stinson and have made a better choice? We should do things that screw up their desires the most. In this case, why not protect 3 useful people, and wait to see the results of the April/vigilante kills tonight? We can always get Stinson later.

You keep stalling on Stinson.  That's annoying.  At least acknowledge the possibility that he's mafia pretending to be silenced.  If mafia starts silencing someone else, that would actually be a GOOD thing, because everyone else has posted something for us to read.  If you got silenced, we could read your old posts to see if we thought it was real or an act.  With Stinson, we have almost nothing to go on.  Giving him one day where we know he's not silenced would force him to speak up.  Then we'd have something to judge him by, and could decide what to do from there.

Since nobody else seems to want to suggest names, I suggest to the Watcher that you watch one of Stinson, Darius, or Penev.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 12:39:46

I am for lynching Stinson next round..... if I live that long......

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 12:50:28

2 more votes oh boy...lets give her until 7 pm EST to respond.  So roughly 2 hours and 10 minutes

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 12:54:07

Current Vote Count:

10 - April (Kmacc, Jabes, Darius, Ivo, dragondragon, Extol, Booth, SuperYoshi, fababu, syzygy)
3 - Booth (Honko, IsThatAGoodThing, Sully)
2 - Penev (MVT, In Hiding)
1 - Sword (Howes)


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by karterfreak on 03/08/09 at 13:04:20

Ok, I haven't been contributing much recently (for reasons already explained) but I thought I should say this.

I've got a plan that could guarantee that our cop get scans without fear of being safely lynched by mafia, but it requires both the watcher and the cop to work together, and It also requires that the cop tell who he is + have the watcher remain silent until something happens to the cop.

The idea is that the cop opens up and tells us everything he's found out so far. Normally this would be suicide for the cop, but the watcher prevents that, because if the mafia kill the cop and the watcher is watching the cop, we've got a guaranteed mafia. This guarantees that the cop will find a mafia for us whether he dies or not.

Its a risky move, but it guarantees us a mafia kill no matter what. Who thinks that this could work?

...

As for april, she could very well be mafia, although people only seem to be saying that because of the amount she posts + her posting style. Some people seem sure (Kmacc for example) that April is mafia. If april happens to be town, then I'll be highly suspicious of you Kmacc, no hard feelings.

I'm holding my vote on april until I get some opinions on my plan.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 13:08:53

@Matt: Your plan could work well, but I feel we should hold off on that for a bit. We should try that maybe when there's like two mafia members left, so if we find a mafia like that they'll be down to one, so we don't have to worry about the odds being somewhat bad for town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/08/09 at 13:11:23

It's a decent plan, but it can only happen once, as the mafia would for sure be looking into absolutely everyone's post the next day to find out who the watcher is. If we want to risk both our watcher and our cop in order to kill one mafia, then that's what's going to have to happen.

I'd prefer it if we waited on that plan and went along with what we're doing now: trying to filter the mafia out individually and less risky. Once we start to get desperate I'd be all for the plan.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/08/09 at 13:12:18

Yeah, save that plan for later.  Losing our cop on Night 3 to nail just 1 of the 5 remaining mafia is not worth it.

It's kind of strange that you suggest that Matt.  I would think you would know that's not a good course of action at this early stage in the game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 13:22:13

It does seem a bit early for that, considering the ratio.  With 5 mafia still left, them losing 1 to get 2 very important power roles would be totally worth it to them, but if they were down to 3 or less, I'd say do it.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by karterfreak on 03/08/09 at 13:31:24

I'm not saying we do that now, I'm saying that this plan should probably be put into effect within the next two days. We never know when the cop is going to get killed by the mafia, and if he does get killed, we'll lose any information he could have had. At least this way, we'll get the information he has, and we'll be guaranteed a mafia kill if the mafia try to kill him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 13:37:00

ya probably with all the information people have voluntarily given up.... (or did they) we may have to go to a strat like this a little earlier than we'd want to.  they only have a 1 in 17 shot of hitting the cop tonight, but I think too many people revealed their positions too early so it's probably more like 1 in 10 now with everyone giving away way too much.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 13:38:41

April is viewing the topic now, so its most likely now or never for her to sway you guys. I say you guys because I cannot be swayed because I know she is mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/08/09 at 13:39:50

Members viewing this topic (9): Kevin Booth, karterfreak, Fababu, Detective Spril, Padzup, MVT, Kmacc, IsThatAGoodThing (replying), Jabes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 13:39:57

Yeah she just arrived in IRC, doesn't even seem to know what's going on.  After chatting for a bit, MVT flips out on her for avoiding the topic, and she is like "Oh well."  Guess it's probably too late regardless of what defense she comes up with.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 13:40:48

I think she knows the writing is on the wall, and sees no reason to say anything just yet. If she's mafia like you are 100% sure of, I expect a particular message her way sometime in the last hour.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 13:43:11

....WAIT a second.....

Quote:
If she's mafia like you are 100% sure of


You must be sure as well, as your vote's on her, Kevin.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 13:48:36

if april logs out without replying I am voting for her.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 13:52:30

honestly I am not sure, but since I am also on the chopping block, I don't want it to be me, so of course I'm going to vote for a front runner even without cause to save my own bacon at this point.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 13:52:35

April was replying, and then left...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/08/09 at 13:53:58

I just got home from work, and yes, I've been viewing the topic  for a bit, and yes, I did view it last night without posting. However, I was getting ready to go to bed, and my reasoning ability was done by then, so I figured I might as well wait until now to post, as opposed to posting last night without all my thinking.

That said, I think no matter what I say now, I'm looking lynched, with ten (I think?) votes on me. I think if I try to defend myself, it will continue looking more like "overdoing it" (as I've seen several people post about), and since this day's focus has been pretty much on me, there's not much I can add. I do think Booth is town based on the way he posts, although I wonder why he's posting the confusing statements that he is. I don't think a mafia member would post nearly as boldly as he has so far.

And about Matt's plan: it's a good plan, but like others have said, it would be better to wait until there are 2 or 3 mafia left, and I'd wait until you have a pretty good idea as to who they are. It's risky, but it's a surefire move if there are 2-3 mafia left.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 13:57:16

Okay, so if you end up being mafia you've instantly outed Booth by saying "I think he's town."  If you're townie, as that implies, then you're still fine.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 13:57:33

Well based on what I saw there, I am more unsure than before.  I think with all these votes on her, and I'm sure everyones going to see that post and vote for her anyhow, so my vote is no longer needed to give her the bukke.   Hopefully Bukke is in your diet.

I have thought about it, and I am tired of Stinson either voluntarily not speaking or being silenced, so until that changes, I got a new vote.

unvote
vote: NathanStinson

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 14:00:05

As far as Matt's plan goes, it could start right now if the cop has already found a mafia at night.  If he has, he would announce who it was, the roleblocker would block that mafia member, and we would either find another mafia member who kills the cop (2 of 5 mafias confirmed = amazing), or they wouldn't attack him, for fear of discovery (cop has a chance at finding another confirmed mafia, which he would announce, meaning there would be 3 of 5 mafias confirmed whenever the plan was finally finished).  So, cop, if you have found a mafia member already, why not come out straight up and we would do this plan right now?  If you did come out this would only require the cooperation of three townies instead of like a big bunch like Alex's plans have.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 14:02:45

ya, that is true, if the cop scanned a mafia already (from day 2), then this would be a killer move!  The only problem is what would happen day 4 and beyond if they hide like cowards?  Either way I guess if you can possibly get 3 out of 5, it would break the game open, and we wouldn't have to hate monger lynch anymore.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 14:28:10

So Kevin, why have you gone completely insane in this topic the last couple Days.  You're posting nearly as much as me, which is very odd.  On Day 1 you hardly posted at all, and it was nothing more than "I'm sure Scott's mafia" over and over again.  Now you've changed your act so completely it's unreal to even comprehend.  Was it something to do with realizing how it felt to get voted on, or was it your realization that being mafia and being quiet wasn't going to work for this game?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by karterfreak on 03/08/09 at 14:50:49

Considering I talk with booth alot, I highly doubt he's mafia  ;D

Edit: If he is, lynch me, because I'll have been fooled by a good friend of mine.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 15:09:29

ya I started to take the game more seriously.  At first I just came into the game cause people begged me to, and I thought mafia was kinda gay.  Then I decided to participate more, and then people started really annoying me with their behaviors.  On top of that, my gf and I have been going through some rough times... not too bad, but we got in some arguments so some of my weird behavior can be explained with that.  At first I could use Jorge to direct my anger on, but after that was gone, you poor mafia people were the new targets of that weird stuff.

Either way Iwish to take the game a little more serious now, but I think I already killed myself off.  I think there is a 20% chance the mafia gets me, and 25% chance the vigils get me (unless role blocked, which I am suspecting they will be for rest of game.)  If that doesn't occur, there is a 66% chance I'm gone by day 4.

As far as you go Scott, you just annoy me sometimes, even though were friends outside the game, inside the game, you piss me off, so hey isn't it fun to provide a different persona/reality in a game sometimes?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/08/09 at 15:10:14

I am all for knocking off stinson, but i dont think he is mafia. Right now i think its best to off april and get on with the game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 15:13:38

oh yes, and since I must get more posts than Scott cause I'm an attention whore, I'll post some more info.  Matt E. has talked to me a lot in the past  (in fact more than any of the members have).  I have been very out of the loop as far as the kart community goes til the recent Jorge thing.

As of late,  (since Mafia Started) Matt E's been avoiding my IMs for some reason.  I'm not holding it against him though, cause I'm sure his family has been setting up spy programs on his network to monitor his every move.  They are freaking paranoid as hell.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 15:16:29

and ya Jabes, April is toast.  Only way if she's not is if people stupidly fell for my mafia bait and turn on me at the end of this day.  I was really hoping for a vigil or mafia lynch, but since that is not going to happen I'll quit posting weirdly and just be a little more transparent.  I am still not giving up my role, cause that would still be dumb considering the obvious.

I am just voting for Stinson to put it up there for tomorrow docket in case you guys want to consider doing that instead of wasting your time with me, cause I really think somethings going down with me either way.

Dear Mafia:  Silence Scott so I can have more posts than him

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 15:23:28

umm so should we go through with the april kill?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Darius on 03/08/09 at 15:29:57

Hello all, just got back from my weekend away so I should post more tomorrow. Anyway, something I wanted to say quite before the watcher follows Robin's suggestion: I wouldn't bother watching me. Tom is a better choice, he's a power role and might be still useful as the numbers dwindle, plus he's been more quiet from what I can see so they might try and slip the kill in there when we're not watching him. I'm the first to admit I haven't been much use on Day 3 compared to what I did on Day 2 and they didn't target me then: if they go for me tonight then it's a pretty strange choice. My recommendation: Stinson, Tom and Penev.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 15:33:34

mr darius is pretty under the radar indeed.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/08/09 at 15:37:11

Tom was viewing the topic as of two minutes ago and didnt post. I hate this game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 15:45:46

I know damn avoiding bastards.  They gotta be attention whores like me, it's fun!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 15:53:02

Why the hell should we wait for super late night to make the lynch?  Are we doing it or what?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 15:53:58

man it's already been done.  Tons of votes on April, and to the victor go the Sprils.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/08/09 at 15:54:43

Thats what im saying. I already voted and i think we only need one more. Someone do something before i go crazy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/08/09 at 15:59:43

I think we still need three for april, cause booth changed his vote to stinson and tom didnt unvote proberly so it doesnt count, according to scott. The people that havent voted yet, we need you to make a decision!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:00:29

Then why cant we finish it off and start the night early?

Unvote

Vote Detective Spril

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 16:01:00

Current Vote Count:

10 - April (Kmacc, Jabes, Darius, Ivo, dragondragon, Extol, SuperYoshi, fababu, syzygy, MVT)
3 - Booth (Honko, IsThatAGoodThing, Sully)
1 - Penev (In Hiding)
1 - Sword (Howes)
1 - nstinson (Booth)

Not voting: Penev, nstinson, oneshot, karterfreak, detective spril, sword

12 votes are needed for a lynch.

Edit: To put MVT's vote in.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/08/09 at 16:03:27

make that 10 for april, kmacc

@MVT, we need lenny to properly begin the night with his writeup or whatever. But now that i think about it, if april gets enough votes and someone locks the topic, would night begin then? or would we have to wait for lenny to tell us night begins?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:04:04

2 more votes please so booth can lock the topic...then we can just wait for Goose and Lenny to start the night....Why procrastinate any longer.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by sully on 03/08/09 at 16:13:02

Unvote
Vote: Detective Spril


Not that I have anything against April, I'm more concerned about Booth, but sure, bring on the night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:15:55

Booth can you please unvote - vote april and lock the topic?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Extol on 03/08/09 at 16:17:25

scott is right, we need to hold off on the last vote so we can figure out the plans for the power roles tonight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:18:09

vigilantes do the usual

Watcher watches STINSON!

done.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/08/09 at 16:20:50

ya, why not, lets end the day.

unvote
Vote: DetectiveSpril


is it in the rules that the day can end early?  I hope so.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:21:28

Yes it is.  The day is done.  Lock the topic now for Lenny and Goose to give us the scoop tonight!
:D


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 16:23:17

Booth you are a fucking tard.  Now we can't plan shit. Moron.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/08/09 at 16:33:25

I suggest the vigilantes kill MVT tonight. He's trying his best to appear to be mafia.
- Flo agreed with him on something on Day1 about not helping Tom. Flo doesn't agree with anyone and nobody agrees with Flo.
- MVT joined Flo's bandwagon very late, as a way of covering his tracks
- he suspects people I don't have any reason to suspect
- gives dodgy reasons for who he suspects and why -> throwing townies off?
- wanted Brutus gone. Brutus was townie. Wanted Adam gone as well, and Adam is probably townie.
- wants me gone -> his radar is broken
- now that he's realised April is a lost cause, is now pushing to start Night 3 ASAP and rob the town of valuable time discussing any plans plans. Yet he hasn't voted for April himself.

If he's not mafia then he is one of the worst townies.


What's the official vote count?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 16:36:18

Tom's non post earlier may have been because he bolded his unvote properly in the post we mentioned before where he improperly voted for April.

That sounds pretty fair on MVT there, Alex.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/08/09 at 16:36:44

Even though the lynch is happened, i suggest all mods keep this thread open so we can decide what to agree on.

If that means one person has to technically unvote, then ill unvote if thats the case.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 16:38:08

Current Vote Count:

12 - April (Kmacc, Jabes, Darius, Ivo, dragondragon, Extol, SuperYoshi, fababu, syzygy, MVT, sully, Booth)
2 - Booth (Honko, IsThatAGoodThing)
1 - Penev (In Hiding)
1 - Sword (Howes)

12 votes are needed for a lynch.

So yeah, today is over guys.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/08/09 at 16:38:37

The lynch has happened? I wasn't voting in case April got too many votes.
If she has enough then maybe the thread should be locked -- but then you should be looking at everyone who last with a magnifying glass.

Do we trust William's mafia program for an official vote count?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:38:58

Don't listen to penev, he is a master-mind.  Vigilantes BE SMART.  You need me for the town, since I have contributed so much!  

Official votecount =

APRIL 12 ( kmacc, jabes, darius, ivootjes, dragondragon, extol, superyoshi, kevin booth, fababu, syzygy, MVT, sully)

lynched

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 16:39:09

Yo Kmacc, Booth edited Tom's post, I was wrong.

http://www.mariokart64.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1235628670/1225#1245

Why in the world did Booth edit Tom's post?

This has to be grounds for a modkill :-/

April has 13 votes, both of you have been wrong so far.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:40:10


2A10370B021722240C0C07370B0A0D04630 wrote:
Tom's non post earlier may have been because he bolded his unvote properly in the post we mentioned before where he improperly voted for April.

That sounds pretty fair on MVT there, Alex.



jump on some more bandwagons why dont you?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 16:41:24

^That is weird...

Technically, Booth edited that though when day ended. Lenny I guess will have to decide on that? We had enough votes for the lynch anyway so doing that didn't really matter at all..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/08/09 at 16:41:38

Ryan won't be around for a while as he's watching hockey.  How about we leave it up until he gets back.

Last Day we fucked shit up as Lenny just posted straight off and it was supposed to be Brutus lynched not Tyler.  Better safe than sorry.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/08/09 at 16:41:55

Lock this topic mods.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:41:59

Penev this was already locked by booth

and scott even without that vote she still has 12.

WHY THE END OF DAY CHAOS?  I thought that was why we should end the day early to avoid this mess.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Jabes on 03/08/09 at 16:42:56

Look at all the action. Mvt, cmon man, youre going out of your way to sound mafia. Think a bit before posting.

Remember that you were a second leading vote getter on day one.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Kmacc on 03/08/09 at 16:42:57

I actually was the one to lock it. Anyway I'm locking it again at the request of Goose.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by MVT on 03/08/09 at 16:43:32

vigs dont be stupid!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/08/09 at 17:01:03

It had felt like a few months since the townspeople had their last meeting.  It was enough.  They all went down to the river for what would be a special bath.  After gearing up in all the new spring clear out deals from the local sex shop, they walked awkwardly down to the muddy banks.  A few arrived early and had already started digging… but who was that inside the makeshift grave; reminiscent of one serial killers dig frantically a few hours after murdering their victim, while their semen is still fresh at the crime scene?

Whoever it was, the townsfolk had all arrived and they started pulling out their dingy dongs.  But they wouldn’t stop there.  After cumming buckets due to them all having earlier seen Race to Witch Mountain, they proceeded to remove their anal butt plugs (as opposed to oral butt plugs) and let loose.  All that Activia pudding they ate was sure helping!  The grave started to fill up with a soup that smelled the same way a family who owns five large dogs’ backyard smells come the snowmelt in April.  Like something out of Saw III, all the sperm and feces was imbuing to the point that it was approaching our victims highest point, their face.  The moment it started to draw in to their crevices of our victim’s cheeks she was able to vomit off her BDSM mouth plug; similar to the scene from Hostel and shrilly yelled in her last exasperated words “I am April, the Dominatrix!”  As she uttered these words, the creamy soup only ingestible by maggots or bacteria filled her oral cavity and instantly suffocated her.

April experienced a death by bukkake.  She was the dominatrix, a mafia role.

Night 3 starts now.  You have 24hrs to send your night actions to Lenny.


(edit: changed 48hrs to 24hrs. -Alex).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/09/09 at 21:34:06

Wut? Open'D

Proven: MVT sucks as Lenny didn't reopen the topic until when I said he would anyway, as he was at SCHOOL.  Morons that lost us 3 hours of clear time to plan night actions, etc, are going to get raped if I have any say in the matter.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/09/09 at 21:37:21

Also, mega lolz at April being Dominatrix.  I pegged her after she had posted only TWO FREAKING TIMES in the whole topic, on Day 1.  Man that feels so good to just KNOW someone is mafia and I knew she was mafia all along.  You guys should've followed me on Day 2 instead of going after Tyler ;) .  Man she was funny but it was so obvious that she was mafia the whole time.

Anyone think Booth is not the instant first target?  April kind of outed him in one of her last posts, I doubt she realized it either.


0A3B3922274B0 wrote:
That said, I think no matter what I say now, I'm looking lynched, with ten (I think?) votes on me. I think if I try to defend myself, it will continue looking more like "overdoing it" (as I've seen several people post about), and since this day's focus has been pretty much on me, there's not much I can add. I do think Booth is town based on the way he posts, although I wonder why he's posting the confusing statements that he is. I don't think a mafia member would post nearly as boldly as he has so far.


That's the post I was talking about.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/09/09 at 21:41:28

So we lost Jabes the Needler and MVT the Cockbiter.  Such a perfect role for MVT, he bites cocks all day, I'm willing to wager.  So do we have to follow those Cockbite rules as he was killed in night? Or did that only apply to day lynches?

Regardless, Booth is my N1 suspect right away.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/09/09 at 21:42:22

Lenny just confirmed it is okay to post votes in topic, we don't have to PM them.

In that case:

vote Booth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Honko on 03/09/09 at 21:42:46

Why is this open and why is Scott talking if Lenny hasn't posted the night results yet? :-?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/09/09 at 21:43:40

Results are in the opening post.

Robin please edit your post's title to say Day 4 for the sake of william's mafia.cgi page.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/09/09 at 21:43:46

Look at the first post, the results are already up there.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/09/09 at 21:44:29

Lenny gave permission to talk and post as he's still writing the story.

Jabes the needledick and MVT the cockbiter were killed.

This loses us two townies, but :-/ MVT may not have been helping too much.

Extol and I can finally go to sleep :)

Won't likely be able to post for 15hrs, sleep + school.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by Lenny on 03/09/09 at 21:47:04

After the previous days epic shitfest, or as Kevin Rudd would put it, 'political shitstorm', the guys were bummered. Their sperm ammo was running out for the much needed bukkakes, and there was nothing they could do about it. Nevertheless, some virgins probably still had mass amounts in reserve and managed to shoot it off. Or was it the Moralist that got angry and shot the fuck out of people? It was probably one of them. Damn mafia, killing us all off. :( In any case, at least what some people thought the most annoying people were gone, and off goes the gay Cockbite too. Great work whoever did that. Probably what everyone was thinking.

MVT has been killed. He was the Cockbite, the town lightkeeper.

Jabes has been killed. He was a Needledick.



I apologise for posting late, but this is the earliest that I could post.

Day will end in 72 hours, on Friday 13th March (Black Friday) at
5pm AEST
1am EST
6am GMT

With 19 people alive, 10 votes are needed for a lynch.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/09/09 at 21:48:35

Finally I can go to sleep too, my mom has been yelling at me to since I have to wake up for school in less then five hours.  ;D

Fortunately for us, no hugely important roles lost, but it is still a hit as Jabes was a very good townie. MVT I knew would be townie just because of the way he acts. At least cockbite got killed at night rather than lynched cause otherwise the voting would be completely scrambled.

Well I won't be back until like 8:30 EST tues night, hopefully more is to develop by then. :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/09/09 at 21:52:53

Well, it sucks we lost Jabes, and it sucks our vigs didn't get another mafia.  We're still up 16-4 though, so we're in good shape.  Also, MVT dying at night means his power doesn't screw us over like it would if he was lynched, so it's not so bad we lost him.

The People I Want To Hear Good Stuff From Today Or I'll Try My Best To Get You Lynched List
stinson
oneshot
karterfreak
booth
sully
anyone who sided with april about anything this game

I'm feeling sick so that's all I'll post for the night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/09/09 at 22:23:28

Lol @ MVT being a townie. That's the biggest shock for me all game.

I think we're in good shape. We started with a ratio of 3:1 town to mafia and we've not only improved it to 4:1, but we've also got 3 days' worth of info, vote patterns and cop/watcher scans waiting to open cans of whoop ass when the time is right. The mafia should be crapping in their pants. Hopefully.

I think the watcher threat may have worked? Taking out Jabes seems like the mafia trying to go for a safe kill.

Who's silenced this time?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/09/09 at 22:29:37

I'm not silenced.  We'll see if stinson will make a post now.  I doubt they would have silenced him again last night.  If he doesn't post today, I suggest we lynch him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/09/09 at 23:10:33

Vote Update:

Booth 1 (isthatagoothing)

Today will end in 70.5 hours!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/10/09 at 01:10:48

Honko's list of The People I Want To Hear Good Stuff From Today Or I'll Try My Best To Get You Lynched List:
stinson
oneshot
karterfreak
booth
sully
anyone who had anything to do with April


The people who had something to do with April were...
- Darius... April called him a 100% townie.
- Scott... April suspected him of being mafia


If the above people are not sure what they should talk in their "Good Stuff" post, a start may be their thoughts on the other players in the above list.


On day3 April wanted Stinson gone, so perhaps he is town?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/10/09 at 01:14:20

I would like to point out at this point that I had April down as mafia pretty early on. I still this Honko is sus.

Ok so my current mafia list is

Extol - dont forget about him despite being quiet.
Honko - he's not convincing enough in general
Anyone who sided with Spril - Stinson and Booth i'm looking at you.

Vote Extol - if for no other reason that I have a hunch about him (my hunches are 2:1 in this game so far) and because he's not contributing much.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 01:34:55

Hello, I'm 100% town and I'm not silenced. I think April's 100% town comment on me was probably an attempt to both tie herself to one of the most obvious town players and, in the event that she was killed, make me look much more suspicious than I've actually been.

I think it's fairly safe to assume that the mafia got Jabes and the vigs got MVT; if the vigs killed Jabes then they need a slap. I had Jabes down as a likely mafia kill last night: one of the best town players but not on the radar for the watcher. Good work to the vigs for taking out the cockbite at night, I don't think MVT was helping that much either and his 'don't be stupid, vigs' post probably put the final nail in his coffin.

I was suspicious of anyone who wanted Stinson gone, to be honest. I know it was quite infuriating that he only posted 4 times on day 1 and then was silent on 2 and 3 but some people were way overplaying this and trying to get him lynched as though he was as obvious as Flo. Sword was one person I noticed was quite strongly for getting rid of Stinson.

Booth is confusing as hell, I don't think he's helping us much and he sided with April. Sean is a waste of space as far as useful posting goes, definitely a good candidate for a lynch if we're undecided but a bit difficult to tell if he's mafia as he hasn't posted much. Ellis and Sully I'm undecided on at the moment; Ellis pointed out a useful plan but using it at that point would have been too early, Sully's posting style is quite minimal and he's not giving much away.

As for Extol and Honko, I've thought Extol was suspicious ever since he laughed at the idea of Flo being mafia on Day 1. Honko is playing helpful townie quite well if he is mafia but I think at least three out of those five suspects on his list are just townies playing badly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by MVT on 03/10/09 at 03:22:11

gg all

P.S.  Scott go bite cock

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 03:57:49

Ok, thought this might be helpful, I've done a quick write-up of everyone and assessed the current amount of pressure on them. I've also highlighted the dead players who were town in green and the mafia in red.

1. Honko – Posting a lot and seeming to do some good work for the town. Heavily suspected by Tom throughout the game. Current pressure rating: 5
2. Extol – Has dropped under the radar a little, considered suspicious by several players so far. Tom now putting pressure back on him. PR: 6
3. IsThatAGoodThing – Went a bit crazy early on to look suspicious but has calmed and was strongly for lynching April. With her gone, likely to get targeted less. Has been squabbling with Booth most of the game. PR: 4
4. In Hiding – Jailkeeper. Undisputed claim, very solid town. PR: 1
5. Syzygy – Still very quiet. Claims needledick. PR: 2
6. Darius – If anyone still doubts I’m town, let me know. Don’t think I need to do any convincing here. PR: 1
7. SuperYoshi1- Sparse posting but nothing especially incriminating. PR: 2
8. Sportsguy001 - Lynched D2 - Needledick
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734] – Makes fairly detailed posts now and again but has not posted often. Very keen on lynching Stinson. No vote on Day 3. PR: 2.
10. %hat - Killed N1 - Cunt
11. dragondragon – Playing a logical, helpful town game. Supported the April lynch. PR: 2
12. nstinson – Only made 4 posts the whole game. Supposedly silenced 2 or 3. Likely to get lynched if he doesn’t speak up soon. PR: 9
13. Fababu – Another reasonably quiet player, has not drawn any attention to himself and has not said anything particularly suspicious. PR: 2
14. Flo1 - Lynched D1 - Single Female Lawyer
15. Kmacc – Very strongly supported lynching April. Called mafia by a number of people but has dealt with allegations well and made some useful contributions. May well be out of the woods for his consistent pressure on April but has endured pressure from some throughout the game. PR: 6
16. karterfreak – Posted infrequently, suspected by several especially after defending both Flo and April. Placed no vote on Day 3. PR: 8
17. Detective Spril - Lynched D3 - Dominatrix
18. Padzup - Killed N2 - Clingy Whipped Boy
19. Howes – Consistent posting levels, little suspicion cast upon him thus far and not heavily targeted by anyone. PR: 2
20. Jabes - Killed N3 - Needledick
21. Brutus - Modkilled D3 - Needledick
22. Ivootjes – Barely made a post since taking over from Adam. Adam was largely unhelpful and claimed he was a needledick (but also mafia). Largely safe right now due to Ivo taking over but could come back into focus if queries aren't responded to soon. PR: 3
23. Etch - Killed N1 - Needledick
24. sully – Getting more and more suspicious to many players. Voted for April without really being ‘concerned’ about her. PR: 6
25. AlexPenev – Posted a large amount of analysis for town as well as formulating some plans to discover mafia. Suspected by some for being ‘too clever’. PR: 5
26. MVT - Killed N3 - Cockbite
27. Kevin Booth – Making a lot of posts but many of them quite confusing and contradictory. April stated she thought he was town. Unvoted April and went for Stinson late on Day 3. PR: 7
28. oneshotbillyII – Very quiet, one-line posts when he does speak up. Nothing at all on Day 3, lynch probability likely to keep rising unless he posts something soon. PR: 6

Some of those very quiet players are quite likely to be mafia. If Stinson doesn't say anything today then I see him getting lynched. If he has been silenced again then hopefully the watcher knows who the silencer is. I'm keen to see whether oneshot cares about the game at all at the moment; I'm sure even he can manage a defence if he's bothered about staying in this game.

Vote: Oneshot

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/10/09 at 04:11:05

Trust me, sean's not mafia.

Unvote extol

Vote karterfreak


Defending flo and april? tut tut tut..

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 04:49:57

Perhaps defending was a bit strong for Matt over April, but he definitely took attention away from her lynch and put it onto his plan. He also didn't bother to vote after saying he was waiting for opinions on his plan, which he subsequently got.


62687B7D6C7B566F7B6C6862090 wrote:
As for april, she could very well be mafia, although people only seem to be saying that because of the amount she posts + her posting style. Some people seem sure (Kmacc for example) that April is mafia. If april happens to be town, then I'll be highly suspicious of you Kmacc, no hard feelings.

I'm holding my vote on april until I get some opinions on my plan.


If Sean isn't mafia, do you know why he didn't post on Day 3? Do you think he was silenced or can he not be bothered?



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Syzygy on 03/10/09 at 06:44:19

I'm not silenced.

Hey Darius, how am I quiet?  I suppose I usually post in chunks rather than being consistent but that's just my attitude to this game.

Shame to see Jabes go, probably a safety net as I didn't think he was a target and lol @ MVT being town, terrible player.  

Suspect list:
Booth
Extol
Honko
Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 06:51:14

I ESCAPED!

They held me captive, silencing me for two days!

But, I didn't see any faces or hear any voices, so I have no way of identifying them:(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/10/09 at 07:03:26

@nstinson: so Lenny told you on day2 and day3 that you couldn't talk, but not today? I guess we saved you, then. Oneshot didn't talk on day3. If he comes in and tells us that -he- was silenced on day3 then your stories would be inconsistent. It would be in your interest for him to come in and say that he just couldn't be bothered to post.

I think a few of us have seen you reading the topic but not post. And you've definitely been posting on other topics. So I'm starting to think that you might be a genuine townie. Because if you were really a mafia, and the mafia was purposely not using their silencer to make you look innocent, that would mean they were wasting their silencer for 2 days. Since it's one of their very few powers, it would be strange for them to just waste it like that. Still, I'd like to hear from oneshot -- he couldn't have been silenced yesterday otherwise one of you would be lying.

In other news, yesterday Ivo said that he had finished reading the entire topic. But it was locked and he couldn't reply. Perhaps he has some thoughts to share with us?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/10/09 at 07:13:28

I can finally post  ;D I used entire day 3 to catch up 56 pages. I want to say that town is doing a pretty good job till now, 3 mafia gone already in 3 days, we're ahead on schedule  :D

I think that vigilantes have killed either jabes or mvt tonight, and i think it's a mistake. If you study flo's post from the beginning you can see that he clearly gives away hints

Lets look into it a little closer, this is what he had to say about mvt:

Quote:
might be mafia
I'm sorry i don't know where exactly, didn't put that down in my notes.

And this is what flo had to say about Jabes:

Quote:
I also saw Jabes and dragon jumping into a bandwagon against me without any explanations.


Too bad they both died as i had them as townie in my notes  :(

Anyway, about the people still alive keep in mind that i'm not sure about anyone, but some i'm fairly sure about (like 90-99%)

Dragondragon: Solid play and flo gave away he's town. I can't imagine him being mafia.

Kmacc: Has been helping out town a lot and was the main person to get april killed.

InHiding: Has claimed bodyguard and nobody has counterclaimed. Probably town.

NStinson: Is probably getting silenced for the rest of the game. I think this is a pretty strong play by mafia. If he's town than we basicly lose a vote that could help us get a majority, and if we lynch him than we've both lost a townie and lost a day. If he's mafia than it's a free ride under the radar.

I say that IF our vigilantes don't have an other topsuspect shoot stinson, but if you have a good plan for tonight leave stinson alone. Me saying this also kinda pressures mafia into changing their vote as their silencer ability might be useless if they silence someone who's dead. Which is a good thing as we like to hear some stuff from stinson right?
Anyway, too much about that silencer stuff, back to the players.

Darius: Has made a lot of good solid points for town. Probably town.

Karterfreak: I agree with some posts said above. Seems supicious to me. Oh, and this quote got me thinking:

Quote:
If flo's not mafia, don't say I didn't say so.
Looks so townish to me, or could be a genius mafia post, i don't know what to make of it.

Syzygy: Could very well be mafia. On day 1 he stated several times that both mvt and flo were suspiccious but he unvoted/voted several times for mvt. To me this looks as trying to get the attention away from flo and to mvt. Could also be a misread of course. Oh, after a while he decided to finally switch and jump onto flo very late.

Sully: Has been totally useless, only made a bunch of oneliners throughout the game. And even in this oneliners he seemed mafia to me. Tom saying that he's sure sully is town means nothing to me, how could you judge someone so well by just a few short posts.

Oneshotbilly: Useless, last game he only started talking after we made a bunch of votes against him. This helped out town a little bit as he roleclaimed and nobody counterclaimed. I don't have a problem getting rid of him, and if we're lucky he's mafia.

Alexpenev: Plays a lot like i would play when i'm mafia, only more active.  Uses the "scientific" aproach a lot by making night plans etc. This stuff should indeed be done, but it's a very safe way to stay below the radar (because you're actually helpful) and by doing this it's easy to not give away a lot of info when you're lynched (as you've said nothing about fellow players, only spend time making plans) On the other hand it's also how i expected alex to play  :-/ Could be mafia or could be town to me, but i'm leaning more to the town side.

Superyoshi: Don't really know, except that clark said that you're highly suspicious somewhere, and he also said that about jabes. Could be town because of that, or clark said it just to confuse me 50 pages later xD

Isthatagoodthing: His style changed a lot compared to last game. Has been a lot less helpful this time around, adding to the confusion way more. Last time he also was confusing, but at least it was very clear that he really wanted to help. I'm not so sure about scott this time.

Kevin Booth: Seem to care about this game, i think he's town or he's doing a pretty good job hiding that he's mafia.

Fababu: Seem mafia to me, hasn't added (or is it add? sounds like an iregular verb to me xD) a lot to the discussion and seems to go under the radar.

And some players that i don't really have much to say about. I should read into their posts a little bit more carefully i guess. Maybe that someone else has to add some usefull thoughts about them (for me :P)

Honko: Seems townish to me, made some solid posts i guess. But hey, i could be wrong.

Extol: Has a confusing style. Doesn't really help out town that much imo.

Sword: Has made some solid posts i guess. Don't know for sure.

Howes: Meh, don't know? How does his style compare to last game?

And one last note:
I think the Moralist (paranoid gun owner) should speak up for itself. There was some talk about it yesterday and the conclusion was that we've got 3 people who visit houses at night and mafia got 3.
Well, april died now (3-2) and it's obvious that they're going to continue silencing nstinson. (3-1)
Our chances of losing someone to this retarded shit are way bigger than mafia's chances. But before you speak up i like to see what other people think about it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/10/09 at 07:17:50

What, stinson posted in the time i was replying? Lol, i think this is a mafia mistake. Thanks mafia  ;D Forget about all my silencing plans for now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/10/09 at 07:19:05

Shit, i always press reply before i'm finished posting, i forgot to vote.

Vote: Sully for reasons explained.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/10/09 at 07:35:05

Posting from school now, I'm not silenced. I pretty much agree with Darius and Ivo, but I'm pretty confident that Penev is town. I'm mostly suspicious of Sword and Extol now, but I may be wrong.
Vote: Sword

So you'll talk.
Might be around for another couple hours, but might not.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/10/09 at 07:46:04

Player List
2. Extol
3. IsThatAGoodThing
7. SuperYoshi1
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
13. Fababu
16. karterfreak
27. Kevin Booth
28. oneshotbillyII

I didn't cross off Scott and Extol because they only posted before Lenny posted the results.  I just want to make sure in case he sent out who was silenced right before the post.

Nate, it seems you've been watching the topic quite a bit during your absense.  Anything been said the past 2 days that you're certain or fairly certain is contradictory?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 07:52:32

Tim: Perhaps I just haven't been online for most of your posting chunks so it feels to me like you're playing less than you are.

Something I've been mulling over for a while but I think it's finally time to say:

I am the Moralist.

It was always going to be a tricky decision to decide when to reveal but I think the time is right. The percentages are now against me with another mafia power role dead and because of the way I had to defend myself from the watcher (edit) last night at the end of Day 3, it was becoming clearer that I couldn't avoid all the town power roles for long. We still have all our strong power roles intact and I don't want to lose any of them by trying to ride out another night and hope the mafia visit me without the town doing so. I started to suspect today that the mafia already thought I was the Moralist because it seems quite strange that they wouldn't try and visit a blatant town player on any of the three nights. The other possibility is that Clark was sent to me and the vigs killed Etch, which would explain why the mafia have seemingly avoided me altogether.

If anyone else comes in and claims this role, I recommend an instant lynching. Let's win this, town!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/10/09 at 08:01:53

Thank you for coming forward, Darius.  Yeah, that was my plan for if two people claimed the moralist, but I didn't want to say anything in case someone else was stupid enough to claim it.  :)  Yeah, I don't think you had anything to worry about until you were listed as one of 3 to get watched.  You were definitely thought of as townie by everyone (or basically everyone).  You also have no risk from what you say here on out, so say whatever is on your mind.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/10/09 at 08:07:24

If someone other than Darius is the moralist though, he MUST come forward now.  One of the two would HAVE to be mafia unless it's just a dumb townie coming forward who wants two townies to get lynched.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/10/09 at 08:39:01

Sorry I didn#t post on day 3 i was in Amsterdam over the weekend. Mafia tryed to gat me but i'm the alphamale. nice try boys  ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/10/09 at 08:43:45

Listen why are you boys giving me so much stick. I'll say it again Honko is 100% mafia and he still hasn't been lynched, until thats dealt with theres nothing more for me to say. In fact i won't post again till he has been lynched.

Vote: Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 08:57:02

Sean, 'I won't post again till he has been lynched' is not going to work with most players here. We're giving you stick because you barely post and when you do it's one-liners with no evidence. The only thing you've got going for you is that Tom keeps defending you, even though his role gives him no way of knowing whether you're town or not. Are you actually one of the alpha males?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/10/09 at 09:26:44

unvote Extol

Vote Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/10/09 at 10:49:45

Yeah, I'll admit, I'm highly suspicious right now because of
1. Me defending Flo1, even though I gave reasons, he was mafia.
2. Me attacking MVT, he was town.
3. Me not voting on day 3, April was mafia.

1. I've explained myself for this one already, check back in previous posts.
2. I honestly did think he was mafia, and in all honesty i'm seriously glad we didn't lynch him.
3. I didn't vote at this time because at that point it wouldn't have made a difference. If I had voted, and april was Town, I would have been suspicious because I put my vote on a town at the end, If I had voted and april was Mafia, I would have been suspicious because I would be seen as trying to cover my ass, and lastly, if I didn't vote (this is the option I took) I'd be suspicious for not helping to lynch a mafia. At the same time, this was the safest of the 3 options because if she had been Town, then nobody could have blamed me for helping kill her.

Right now I have no idea who I'm suspicious of. The only thing I'm sure of is that if Booth is Mafia, then I want to be lynched, because Booth is the only one I really talk to alot on the forums that I would have a pretty good idea if he was lying about anything.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/10/09 at 11:16:24

So Stinson isn't silenced today.  That's good.

Vote: Stinson

Say something useful then.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 11:29:50

Vote count update:

Honko 2 (oneshotbillyII, In Hiding)
oneshotbillyII 1 (Darius)
nstinson 1 (Honko)
Sword 1 (Howes)
Sully 1 (Ivootjes)
Booth 1 (IsThatAGoodThing)

With 19 players remaining, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end in 58 hours 30 minutes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/10/09 at 11:43:41

Great to see we killed again another mafia. 3 mafias out in only 3 days is more than a decent score.
It seems mafia are getting rid of good posters, which aren't likely watched (Padzup and now Jabes). I doubt they lynched MVT and that the vigs did, probably because they got pissed off of his posting style and they thought it could be mafia...he wasn't but on the other hand he was the cockbite, so that's wasn't that bad finally...

16-4 in a clearly lead in our favor and we still have our best power roles, so if we don't do some stupid lynches, victory should be easy 8-)

About suspects for today, Booth is in my top list, and didn't convinced me that much on day 3... indeed he said he would likely be killed this night but not...

Vote : Kevin Booth

Also nice to see nstinson and oneshot finally back and posting, but you'll likely be my next targets if you are useless. I doubt as for now you are mafia, but maybe some broughts from you would help...

More posts tomorrow maybe.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Jabes on 03/10/09 at 12:02:05

Aw fuck. I thought I was doing so well, too...

Oh well. Good game, everyone! I'll still follow along to see how it all ends...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 12:56:36

Darius you made it very clear you were moralist in a post near the end of Day 3.  I had no doubt in my mind that was the hint you were sending.  I responded with a bit of  8-) , lol.

Let's keep it going, town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 13:03:24

Yeah, I figured it was going to do that. I didn't want to come right out and say it then just in case the mafia thought I was bluffing and went for me in some way. I had to make sure that the watcher didn't watch me, which obviously worked.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 13:05:19

So you cannot die now, how does that make you feel?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/10/09 at 13:15:23

It's nice, but it doesn't mean much unless we win as well.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 13:27:03

I have been at class and work all day, and still am.

First question I have is... why did the mafia silence me two days and all of a sudden stop?
April was the dominatrix, not the captivator, so that wouldn't make a difference. I was most likely going to be lynched today also. So, to me, it doesn't make much sense for the mafia to decide to stop silencing me today... unless someone was getting too close to revealing one of them, and had to be silenced?

I guess we'll have to see who is silenced today.

Anyone have a silence count?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 13:33:42

Darius: You're now in a rather unique position.  You can comment on anyone and make any accusation you like without fear of repercussions.  You should from now on speak freely of any suspicions you have and why, and you will not have to fear getting killed at night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 13:35:14

Also Drag's wrong when he said earlier something about Nate.  He said Nate had been reading the topic a lot when he was supposedly silenced.  This is not true.  Nathan IMed me one night asking if I was still in the game (lol, I had been making 50+ posts that Day).  Nate hardly paid attention to the topic, as far as I can tell.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 13:39:24

Didn't I already explain that? A long time ago? Geeze, Scott doesn't pay much attention either:-p

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 13:40:23

No you never explained that.  You just said you were silenced.

Here's your post, certainly doesn't say you did or did not read the topic during the last week (you didn't):


406F7A666F605D7A67607D61600E0 wrote:
I ESCAPED!

They held me captive, silencing me for two days!

But, I didn't see any faces or hear any voices, so I have no way of identifying them:(


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 13:44:48

no... I mean I explained to you why I IMed you asking weren't you modkilled. Because you made that stupid post crying and apologizing for breaking the rules that I saw before I went to bed, and then didn't check again until the next day and it was gone...

You have no sense of irony, do you?

But thats besides the point.

Back on topic. I'll have to read up on a lot before I can decide who to vote for next

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Fababu on 03/10/09 at 13:49:19

Hey guys, I'm not silenced as you can see.
I was viewing Liverpool-Real Madrid match, but I get angry and I've decided to post xD.
Darius, I think that you have choose one of the better moments to say your role; with and advantage of 15-4 our victory is near. BTW, we can't get relax now, we must kept the good work.
About that votes against Booth, well... he said that he thought  he will be killed at night and he had appeared alive. Mafia want to conffuse us with it, that's sure, so I think Booth is townie at least at the moment.

Omg, 4-0...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 3]
Post by dragondragon on 03/10/09 at 13:50:10


0E20332C2B072A2A312D450 wrote:
oh ya, I saw Stinson in here earlier checking out the topic, but never replyed so ya I know he saw this so the pud silenced himself again :)


Scott, I thought I saw someone say something that he was watching the topic quite often, but I guess I was wrong.  Nate, that just means you have a lot of reading to do to catch up! :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 13:52:16


Quote:
On day3 April wanted Stinson gone, so perhaps he is town?


I'd believe this if I were you:)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 14:10:24

Some more random musings for now...


Quote:
Anyone who sided with Spril - Stinson and Booth i'm looking at you.


I wouldn't have sided with Spril if I were able to speak... but Booth, however, is a different story:)


Thus far, who has had the best hunches? Tom? Scott?
It seems that many people are suspicious of...
Extol
Booth
oneshot

Where there's smoke, there's fire?


People who wanted me gone heavily it seemed... Padzup, Sword, Scott come to mind from what I can remember from reading the topic while silenced. it's just so hard to keep an active interest when you're not allowed to say anything :-P


Also, because of last game, I've learned to trust Tom unless there is proof against him.. and no one has disputed his claim of being jailkeeper... and he's still alive... all like last game. I've learned my lesson and I'll stick by his side (so if he ends up being mafia I'm a dead man :-) )



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@nstinson: so Lenny told you on day2 and day3 that you couldn't talk, but not today? I guess we saved you, then. Oneshot didn't talk on day3. If he comes in and tells us that -he- was silenced on day3 then your stories would be inconsistent. It would be in your interest for him to come in and say that he just couldn't be bothered to post.


He posted and didn't say he was silenced, so we've no detractors to my story of being silenced for two days. I guess that corroborates as well as possible... unless you think no one silenced and I was just faking (Booth!)




Quote:
NStinson: Is probably getting silenced for the rest of the game. I think this is a pretty strong play by mafia. If he's town than we basicly lose a vote that could help us get a majority, and if we lynch him than we've both lost a townie and lost a day. If he's mafia than it's a free ride under the radar.


I'd agree with this assessment as well. I thought for sure I was silenced for good, and it makes me wonder why I was not. They almost had me lynched just from having me silenced.




Quote:
Posting from school now, I'm not silenced. I pretty much agree with Darius and Ivo, but I'm pretty confident that Penev is town. I'm mostly suspicious of Sword and Extol now, but I may be wrong.
Vote: Sword


People jump on me all the time for not supplying a lot of reason for my votes:-p



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Are you actually one of the alpha males?


Last game he wasn't lying about his role.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 14:34:42


Quote:
He posted and didn't say he was silenced, so we've no detractors to my story of being silenced for two days. I guess that corroborates as well as possible... unless you think no one silenced and I was just faking (Booth!)


Sean didn't post on Day 3.  You don't know what you're talking about!  Unless he confirms he was not silenced he easily could've been.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 14:34:48


Quote:
Sorry I didn#t post on day 3 i was in Amsterdam over the weekend. Mafia tryed to gat me but i'm the alphamale. nice try boys  


He posted that today

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 14:36:01

Okay.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 14:37:54

That's what I was referring to. Sorry, I didn't mean to be confusing if I was :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/10/09 at 15:35:09

Stinson is posting actively and taking part again! Hurrah! It's about time. I was starting to get irritated by him not being able to talk. But now he can, and I expect lots from him :)

I don't know stinson too well, so there is a chance that he is lying, but as Alex said, I doubt the mafia wouldn't use their silencing role for 2 days, it seems like a bit of a waste imo. So I'll take his words in him saying he was silenced 2 days in a row.


7A76637F7A76706264272420170 wrote:
I'm mostly suspicious of Sword and Extol now, but I may be wrong.
Vote: Sword

So you'll talk.



Howes, what would you like to hear from me? You feel I'm suspicious for some reason, but I don't know why. Ask me anything and I'll answer it to the best of my ability.

On a completely unrelated note, Silencing Role : Most annoying thing ever [smiley=flush.gif]




Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/10/09 at 15:59:19

Quite honestly, I can't remember what I was thinking at the time... :-/
I'm somewhat lost right now, I think I need to look back over my own posts to see my logic.
For now...
unvote
I mostly want people to talk, as it has been slowing down recently.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/10/09 at 16:07:34

Yeah, I've noticed that too. The last day dragged itself on ... much slower than the first 2 days.

It's really hard to make a choice on who to vote for at the moment. With April now gone, people are suspicious of ;

Honko (Who is a regular poster who actually posts well thought out posts, but appears to be somewhat demanding, and people have a 'gut feeling' he is mafia)
karterfreak (Who hasn't posted as much due to issues at home, but when he has been posting, he has been discharging mafia members as being town by defending them)
Booth (Who has become a much more frequent poster, but has adapted his posting style to be subliminal - making it more confusing for the town to interpret what he means)

Its far too early to make any decisions right now. We still need to find out who the mafia silenced, and why they would stop silencing Stinson and choose to silence someone else. Perhaps someone was on their trail?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/10/09 at 16:17:50

Thought I'd update the list of potential silenced people.

Player List
2. Extol
27. Kevin Booth

Extol did post when the topic was re-opened, but this was before Lenny posted the night results, so I have still put him under the list of silenced people.


564B475C5F040B04330 wrote:
Look at the first post, the results are already up there.


^ Was his post.

Now, either one of them could have been silenced, as they are both players who are suspicious to the townies. I have a stronger feeling that Booth was silenced, as he was contributing much more than Extol. Or perhaps, Extol was silenced due to him being slightly suspect to some townies, and him not being able to defend himself? Again, I doubt mafia would waste a silence, so one of the two have been silenced.

:exclamation Extol, Booth, if you did not receive a message saying you have been silenced, post! It doesn't matter if you haven't got any input for the game, we just need to be for certain which of you were silenced. :exclamation

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/10/09 at 16:18:42

No, we threatened the possibility of watching stinson, so we'd find out who the silencer was if he got caught.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/10/09 at 17:00:31

Two townies roleclaimed today.
Darius says he's the granny, which makes him safe for the rest of the game. That gives the town +1 extra vote over the mafia for any lynch.
Oneshot said he's the alpha male. He has 2 lives at night, so he's safe for the rest of the game. The mafia hasn't tried killing him yet (I think) because they've made a kill each night. And they will probably not try killing him for the remainder of the game because that would mean their night action doesn't result in a kill.

If nobody is disputing these roleclaims, that reduces our suspects by two. Oneshot was a big suspect, so if he's all of a sudden a safe townie then we've made good progress.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/10/09 at 17:10:39

Wouldn't disputing Alpha Male be fairly hard without revealing that you are also an Alpha Male, especially since there are two? Revealing the second Alpha Male would also make it easier for the mafia to find the rest of the town power roles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/10/09 at 17:12:30

Still not feeling well so don't expect any outbursts of incredible analysis from me today (if you ever do).

Stinson is posting and apparently trying to catch up.  That's good.  I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
Unvote
He hasn't posted much of value yet though.  He could offer a unique perspective since he's been cut off for 2 days, so I look forward to real insight from him.  If that doesn't come, my vote might go back to him eventually.

Oneshot claiming alpha male makes him look good.  I think there are 2 of these though, so it's probably the easiest claim in the game for a mafia to make: BOTH of the other bulletproofs would have to counterclaim for him to be proven wrong, and it would waste a lot of our time to sort through that mess.  He's completely useless, especially if he keeps voting for me and saying absolutely nothing, but there's probably no point in lynching him.

Booth being silenced makes sense.  He says suspicious stuff, has some votes on him, so the mafia silences him since he's already under pressure hoping we'll lynch him.  I'm more likely to believe he's town now.

Sully and Karterfreak are bad.  Let's kill them.

This seems like the slowest day ever.  Look what happens when the Americans stop talking.  Nothing gets done. ::)

Edit: forgot to vote.
Vote: Sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 17:18:59

Sully's behavior changed a lot (no more IRC, no talking to me on IM, etc) as soon as this game started.  Whether or not he did that because he was mafia or because his class load changed is unclear.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/10/09 at 17:21:49

Okay then: lynch sully, vig kill karterfreak?
Unless they have roles to claim  ;D
vote: sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/10/09 at 17:25:57

Okay I'll roll with this.  Doesn't seem anyone else is voting with me for now anyway.

unvote
Vote: Sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/10/09 at 17:41:01

If the vigs kill me or the town lynches me they'd be making a stupid mistake. I'll admit i've played this game rather badly, but it happens.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 17:43:47


6B67726E6B67617375363531060 wrote:
Quite honestly, I can't remember what I was thinking at the time... :-/
I'm somewhat lost right now, I think I need to look back over my own posts to see my logic.
For now...
unvote
I mostly want people to talk, as it has been slowing down recently.



Backed down awfully quick.. after a suspicious vote to begin with...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 17:46:11


50353435040 wrote:
Its far too early to make any decisions right now. We still need to find out who the mafia silenced, and why they would stop silencing Stinson and choose to silence someone else. Perhaps someone was on their trail?


That's what I thought originally also... but, what if the mafia silenced a person that we were on the trail of (extol or booth were mentioned) to keep us from lynching them, since it has worked with me so far?
Maybe they were just using me as the test subject to see if we'd lynch a silenced player

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/10/09 at 17:51:29

Stinson, I'm 100% town. End of story. I've been very confused lately, and I didn't really have time to look through the topic when I made the first post, with the vote. (It was during class, on an iPod touch). I'm thinking in circles, and it's giving me a headache.

Question: do you suspect sully?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/10/09 at 18:10:51


172D0A363F2A1F1931313A0A363730395E0 wrote:
Sully's behavior changed a lot (no more IRC, no talking to me on IM, etc) as soon as this game started.  Whether or not he did that because he was mafia or because his class load changed is unclear.


Not sure what this has to do with mafia seeing as we cant talk about mafia in IRC or IM anyways...

It seems to me we should focus on how to use night actions, rather than this banter about who isnt talking enough.  Sorry for not talking enough, I'm busy and I guess I dont find it fun to go on and on with "hunches".  The last day I contributed a reasonably good strategy for the watcher that might have been the reason why stinson is no longer silenced, so that's something at least.  Can we use this same talk of randomizing our actions to get more out of other roles as well?  I guess it doesnt have to be an explicit randomization, but the more we talk about multiple targets for one of the roles, the mafia are likely to avoid targeting those people.  Who do we want to threaten to watch tonight?  Let's talk more about plans for the different roles rather than these needless accusations.  We've got a big lead on the mafia now, maybe it isnt a good idea to be lynching people on hunches and wait until we have some night action evidence.  It might let the mafia back into the game if we just go on killing people without evidence.  But that's a bit of selfish talk there, I dont know what to say to make people believe me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 18:11:40

I haven't read enough of his posts to get a good opinion on him yet.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 18:12:55

Has the watcher leaked any information overtly in the topic yet?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/10/09 at 18:14:02


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However, if what Scott says is true, and he's changed quite a bit lately, it very well could be taken as suspicious activity.


Again, I dont see how my being less talkative on the forums, in IRC, and on IM, has anything to do with this game.  Its not like I'd be chatting away with other mafia members for hours on end and have no time for anything else.  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 18:17:37

I edited that post as soon as I posted it, because I saw your post. How'd you see it?


I only say so, and Scott, because the mafia in the last game were the least posters in the entire game (except for Goose). It was a strategy that worked great then:)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/10/09 at 18:23:18

Hey guys, just stopping by to say im not silenced. ive been super busy today and tomorrow will be no different, so dont hold it against me if i dont make many posts, the next time i'll be able to post is tomorrow evening at the earliest.

tho one question i have is why do some people find sully suspicious? I know he isnt posting much, but i guess i must've missed something he said that was suspicious. Ill look more into this, and all the other latest developments whenever i get enough time to again..

i just had a break, so i wanted to clarify that im not silenced.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/10/09 at 18:24:55

So that means Booth is silenced, if anyone? :)

Can anyone clarify if he has been viewing the topic?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/10/09 at 18:33:34

Sully, if this game was about the nightactions then days shouldn't take so long.

Day=townie time, we can talk and look for mafiosi's
Night=mafia time, they can shoot us.

Anyway, who do you think are the most suspicious and why?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/10/09 at 18:52:43

Well yesterday Booth seemed oddly suspicious, as has already been talked about.  I was more keen on lynching him than april, or at least getting him to say what his role is or something.  Dont dismiss night as mafia time... after all, it is the only time when the town can get factual information rather than build up these bs arguments during the day.  And we all know its human nature that once these things gather momentum, they're more likely to continue to build, even if the underlying evidence is not solid.

I guess if you guys want to lynch me its not really the end of the world given that I'm fairly expendable.  Is there any way for someone expendable to sacrifice himself to gain intel?  I cant think of anything, let me know if there is something though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/10/09 at 19:03:03

You keep calling all our day talk BS and passing it off as nothing, but we're 2/3 so far on lynching mafia, when they're only 25% of the players.  So obviously it's not just BS.  How about you try to contribute to that effort so we can make it 3/4 by pointing out your suspicions instead of giving up already.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/10/09 at 19:19:02

Well I've been contributing more than Fababu and karterfreak... so by the generally followed logic here that would make them more suspicious than me.  And yeah, we can all be a bit cocky at the moment given our good luck the first few days.  You didnt vote for April and you voted for flo later than I did, so in some sense I've been better that you at picking out mafia so far.  I think we got pretty lucky that flo was mafia because people just were hell bent on lynching him and he wasnt able to defend himself.  He tried defending himself... he would've tried the same thing if he was town, its just our lucky that he was actually mafia.  I'm just saying that with this nice big lead now its going to be difficult to keep getting lucky with our lynches and we might as well debate strategy rather than just accusing people of not contributing.  I mean, maybe voting people off that aren't contributing is an ok strategy, but in that case maybe you want to go with Fababu.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/10/09 at 22:06:58


747236367E070 wrote:
I dont know what to say to make people believe me.

Think of it like that puzzle: 2 guards, one always speaks truth, the other always lies, what question do you ask to figure which is which.
While the mafia wouldn't always lie, the idea is still the best we've got at our disposal because people are always just going to say "I don't think there's anything I can say to convince you" and then try to change the subject. This has happened this game already, and in the previous one.

Basically, to avoid getting lynched you should tell us what you think of all the other people we suspect. If you're town, you'd be helping get rid of dodgy townies. If you're mafia, you'd be trying to figure out how to criticise your own mafia guys. Either way the town benefits.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/10/09 at 23:07:09

So it seems to me like the best source of information might be how people have interacted with others that we now know were mafia... I went backed and looked at all the posts mentioning april.  its hard to tell much, but here are some things:

Scott was the first to really go after april, on day 1.  Seems like he's probably town based on this.

Superyoshi1 mentioned april early on.... complaining that sportsguy switched his vote from tom to april without strong reason... (perhaps he was trying to protect her?)

syzygy spoke up early on day 3 "spril, please speak up a bit more".... could go either way, a gentle warning.

dragondragon was pretty mad at her before the votes starting coming in on day 3 because she hadnt posted much analysis, he's probably town

honko: more curious about booth than april (tho I was in the same boat here)

booth: I dont suspect her, but I haven't paid much attention to her either.  It would take some doing to be convinced to vote for April but I'd at least consider it unlike Sportsguy.  (so, perhaps booth trying to protect fellow mafia?  As I said earlier... I'm still suspicious of booth and if we can put the watcher on him tonight and make him share his role tomorrow i think that'd be a good idea)

extol: something "fishy" going on with april... wait and see where it goes with her (this was after she'd gotten several votes... other people were talking about how she's gotta be mafia and he comes in with this really middle of the road talk.... perhaps he's mafia)

kmacc was outright claiming that april is mafia, no doubt about it, he "knows" it.  Why were you so certain kmacc? (has he claimed a role?)

So from this, I'm suspicious of:
booth
extol / superyoshi / honko - slight suspicion here, would need more evidence based on their interaction with other known mafia

I'm convinced these people are town:
scott, dragondragon

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/11/09 at 03:21:05

:-?

Sully's on a 100% turnaround here....he's finally talking about other people in the game instead of just the game in general.  Whatever brought about this change, I cannot tell, but it's nice!

unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/11/09 at 03:34:25

I'll take Sean's claim as read for now and focus on the other players.

unvote

As I'm an even more certain townie than before and I can't die at night, I'm going to go ahead and make some suggestions about role use.

Watcher: Booth (as he's either silenced or pretending), Drag (as I think he's in a similar position to Padzup and Jabes as appearing as a helpful town player who's not on the main radar) and Kmacc (for reasons stated below). Alternatively, one of the potential vig targets.

Cop: Oneshot, Sword and Fababu (the three lowest posters in the game who aren't either dead or supposedly silenced). Alternatively, choose any target (other than me) who you think is definitely NOT going to get killed (and of course who you haven't scanned yet).

Vigs: Sully (he's apparently 'expendable' so I'm assuming that's a needledick claim and we might as well if he's not lynched) or Extol (trying to take the pressure off Sully and already a bit suspicious to me)

These are of course dependent on what the watcher, cop and vigs already know.

As for Booth, I think he's playing very strangely but that he is town. Sully's point about Kmacc was too obvious: it said something that didn't need to be said. This strikes me as either a stupid town play or a deliberate mafia play. For that reason, I recommend the watcher has Kmacc as a potential watch target tonight, especially if we lynch Sully and he turns out to be mafia.

In conclusion:

Vote: Sully

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/11/09 at 05:43:17

As no-one else seems to be about, I guess I'll continue.

Sully: I'm going to directly ask you before I formulate any kind of detailed plan for gathering intel: are you actually 'expendable'? At the moment I'm not buying that you're town anyway: you've targeted both Stinson and Booth when they seemed to be silenced. Admittedly Booth was suspicious yesterday but I don't see why we should make him share his role tomorrow if he's silenced today. Most likely the mafia did it because they thought he would come across as even more suspicious if they made him unable to defend himself, just like the case with Stinson.

As far as I'm concerned, the only worthwhile role reveals would be those that come with specific information. The main ones I'm thinking of are cop, if they know 2 or 3 confirmed townies and/or a mafia; and watcher, if they've managed to confirm a mafia by watching a killed/silenced person. These should also only be done if those roles feel like they are likely to die or that they have gathered enough info to essentially win us the game even if they do. Unless Booth is either of those AND has a bunch of solid info, a role reveal is a stupid idea. They already know who me, Tom and Sean are (providing Sean's not lying). There are only 5 needledicks left out of the 15 town players and needledick has been claimed a few times. Any more reveals now need to be accompanied by valuable information or, at the very worst, to stop us killing a power role. A reveal just for the sake of not suspecting Booth is a bad idea or a mafia idea.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/11/09 at 07:30:20

This has been the toughest day so far imo to find a solid mafia candidate.  The two I had highest on my radar were Sully and Booth, but Sully has started to talk more like I expected all game long and Booth was silenced.  I've been occasionally suspicious of Extol, but not enough to warrant a vote.

Anyone who hasn't claimed a town power role with under 10 posts a day seems to be under my radar more now, because most of the talkers seem for the most part safe.

Comment about the silencing of Booth.  Mafia knows how we reacted last time to Stinson getting muted.  There wasn't any pressure on Nate, and silencing him didn't put much more on.  They either muted Booth because he was on to something or to get the vote pressure off of him.  I'd rather have us threaten a watch on Booth to make sure we know which scenario it is.

Ok, after going through the whole topic again, I think I've pegged 9 of the 15 townies as at least 90% town.  I'm gonna now take the remaining 10 and try to determine how they fit together.  No one warrants a vote from me yet, but I think I'm getting closer.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/11/09 at 09:31:05


Quote:
The two I had highest on my radar were Sully and Booth, but Sully has started to talk more like I expected all game long and Booth was silenced.


That shouldn't stop you from voting Booth... As I said previously, he could be silenced because people were getting close to lynching him and no one lynched me when I was silenced

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/11/09 at 09:44:49

Nate, that makes no sense.  Are you trying to say we should've lynched you? lol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/11/09 at 09:55:47


052033283432410 wrote:
Sully's point about Kmacc was too obvious: it said something that didn't need to be said. This strikes me as either a stupid town play or a deliberate mafia play. For that reason, I recommend the watcher has Kmacc as a potential watch target tonight, especially if we lynch Sully and he turns out to be mafia.


I was going through posts mentioning how different people had dealt with april and kmacc's response was unusual in that he was so forcefully stating that she must be mafia.  I dont see why mentioning this is a "stupid town play", I was just pointing something out.  How did you make the leap from my statement to .... sully might be mafia and therefore we should watch kmacc?  I dont follow at all.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/11/09 at 10:03:22


1A3F2C372B2D5E0 wrote:
As no-one else seems to be about, I guess I'll continue.

Sully: I'm going to directly ask you before I formulate any kind of detailed plan for gathering intel: are you actually 'expendable'?

I'm not an important town member role wise.  Also, I'm going to california on sunday morning for a week, so someone would have to start playing for me then.  I dont really want to die, no one does... but it wouldnt be the end of the world for town to lynch me (at least you arent lynching an important town role... and the chances of lynching a mafia today appear low)


Quote:
At the moment I'm not buying that you're town anyway

Sorry but your perceptions are wrong.


edit:
Since we cant do anything about booth today, how about a little discussion on these 3 players:
Superyoshi
Honko
Extol

thoughts?

I wanted to include Fababu just because he posts so infrequently, but his few posts didnt really seem to indicate that he was mafia :(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/11/09 at 10:40:47

I thought Kmacc's attitude towards April gave off quite an obvious vibe about a potential power role. The mafia probably picked up on it anyway but I didn't think it needed calling attention to. Given that the mafia didn't go for him last night, I suspected that they may not have noticed. It's possible that he's mafia going for the risky play on the basis that it looked like April would get lynched anyway. Either way, I didn't think it really had to be said. On to your people you want to talk about:

SuperYoshi: I picked up on something early on Day 2 in that Clark tried to throw suspicion on him without voting for him, just as he did with Flo. He later defended Clark, grouping him with Brutus as a townie who was just going to make useless posts. Since then, I don't think I've noticed anything suspicious.

Honko: I don't think anyone's quite put their finger on what it is that's suspicious about Honko. There just seems to be this feeling amongst several players that he's pushing things a bit too much. However, if we check out the voting patterns, we can see that he voted for Flo very late on Day 1, went for Sportsguy late on Day 2 and went for Booth instead of April on Day 3. Also, note the two people who still had their vote on Honko at the end of Day 1 when he was completely safe: April and Clark.

Extol: Has made a few suspicious posts, including laughing at Flo being mafia on Day 1, but also voted for April fairly early on Day 3, which would be a very risky mafia play as it set her on the way to a comfortable lynching. Clark did pull the same 'Extol is mafia' trick that he did with Flo too and he also seemed a bit caught up with the confusing silencer theories, something that I called both him and Kmacc on. At the moment, his vote for April is keeping him less suspicious for me because it was at a point where both April and Booth had about an equal amount of votes and he actually set April on her way to a lynching.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/11/09 at 11:17:05


Quote:
Since we cant do anything about booth today


Sure we can:-p

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/11/09 at 11:31:03


1A35203C353A07203D3A273B3A540 wrote:

Quote:
The two I had highest on my radar were Sully and Booth, but Sully has started to talk more like I expected all game long and Booth was silenced.


That shouldn't stop you from voting Booth... As I said previously, he could be silenced because people were getting close to lynching him and no one lynched me when I was silenced


So you're saying we should have lynched you because you were silenced?

Quote:

Quote:
Since we cant do anything about booth today

Sure we can:-p


Why are you so set on lynching Booth right away, Nate?  We put off lynching you right away for the same reason as Booth.  We wanted to see if you had anything useful and to give you a chance to defend yourself first.  You have to realize the spotlight was gonna be on you the day you came back, so why are you trying to act suspicious?  Give us a reason to keep you alive.

Vote: Stinson

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/11/09 at 11:33:26

I'm not keen on lynching Booth. In fact, I'm not going to vote for him today.

I'm just pointing out that that could be a mafia strategy



Quote:
So you're saying we should have lynched you because you were silenced?

Probably!

You would have eventually anyways. Either "today" or "tomorrow" most likely

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/11/09 at 11:56:44

Does anyone has the mafia.cgi page for me? Im too lazy to check the entire topic to find it. I also like to see the final votecounts on all days.

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/11/09 at 12:01:56

Stinson is being confusing. I don't get it. What the hell. [smiley=dead.gif]

Also, not nearly as many posts as I would of expected. I guess people are getting busy, seeing as it's the middle of the week. Not much has been said that we can interpret.

Now we know Booth was silenced, or is deliberately being quiet (I find this unlikely), we need to investigate why.

People who were posting lots are now posting little, and vice versa. I find this really strange. :-/

Well, hopefully more will be said from those who have seemed to have stopped talking altogether.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/11/09 at 12:27:14

Tom and oneshot have had their votes on Honko for awhile now and didnt give a reason.  Do you guys have a reason?  What does everyone else think about Honko?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/11/09 at 12:38:12

I think Honko is town.

Sully is playing, that's good for the moment.  karterfreak's turn.  Say more than just "I'm sorry I defended all the bad guys."  Give us a reason not to lynch you.

Unvote
Vote: karterfreak


For Ivo: http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/11/09 at 13:03:26

A bit perplexing how much of a change Sully's suddenly had.  Before when he was called out he didn't really respond.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/11/09 at 13:04:07

Also: What the hell is up with Stinson, now he's back to how he was last game  :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/11/09 at 13:12:34

Scott, this was the only time I was leading in votes by a substantial margin and it was clear I'd be lynched if I didnt speak up.  There's still a reasonable chance I'll be lynched today as there doesnt appear to be any real targets, but like I said, its not the end of the world if I am.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Fababu on 03/11/09 at 13:16:25

Tally:

Sully: 2 (Darius, Howes).
Honko: 2 (Oneshot, Tom).
Booth: 1 (SuperYoshi).
Stinson: 1 (Dragon).
Matt: 1 (Honko).

Time remaining: no idea  :-[.

At this time, I don't have any top suspicious person; because after some of the kills and the roleclaiming of Darius and Oneshot change many things.
I don't like what Stinson said about lynching Booth, because he seems inocent for me; and it seems stranger to me that Stinson said that without voting him.

Vote: Stinson

I don't think that you're mafia but I wanna know why do you think that silencing Booth could be a mafia strategy.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/11/09 at 14:16:47

Sorry I haven't posted much today. My desktop is acting strange and the mb won't let me log in, so right now I'm using my father's laptop. I also have a midterm coming up friday so I need to do quite a bit of studying so if I'm not around as much, that is why.

Its good to see stinson posting at least, makes him at leats not totally useless. I've started to feel some suspicions towards people who wanted stinson lynched in earlier days, but not so much the more active of that bunch.

A couple of people come to mind for me: extol, sword.

My hunch is that the more active people that wanted to possibly make a move stinson just wanted it because they were getting annoyed about it. The more quiet people (as stated above) kind of just nudged it along or brought it up again to put it back onto the table. As far as I can see, nathan is trying a bit at least so, and if he were mafia I don't think he'd be a very dangerous one at that.

Sully is coming out now saying he's a needledick or whatever, and he is trying better to help now. But if any role is easiest to claim, it would be the one of a needledick. He may have shifted my focus to the others for now, but he's not off completely.

I also feel Matt is suspicious, as others have stated. I know he had problems irl, but maybe it just so happens that we overlook him for that excuse. I don't know, but I'd like to hear more from Matt.

Superyoshi and fababu are two who I also feel need to speak up more, but I haven't found anything overly suspicious about anything they've said so far. I'll most likely read back on the quiet player's posts if I get the chance cause chances are that at least one more mafia member is a rather quiet person.


414703034B320 wrote:
kmacc was outright claiming that april is mafia, no doubt about it, he "knows" it.  Why were you so certain kmacc? (has he claimed a role?)


I was so certain because she made it fairly obvious to read her and see that she wasn't being sincere. And no, I haven't claimed any role, but I assure you that I am town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/11/09 at 16:48:34


43795E626B7E4B4D65656E5E6263646D0A0 wrote:
Also: What the hell is up with Stinson, now he's back to how he was last game  :-/


How is that?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/11/09 at 16:53:46


5C7B6B6F7B68761A0 wrote:
I don't think that you're mafia but I wanna know why do you think that silencing Booth could be a mafia strategy.


I said this earlier I thought...

Mafia sees that, when they silence me, the town doesn't lynch me, even though they sort of talk about it.. they just never do, because they want to give me time to explain myself (awfully generous of them).. although I'm sure they would have eventually lynched me.

They see that their pal Booth is coming under heat, so they silence him.
Even sully said earlier that we can't lynch Booth... I'm not sure why he said that, but I'm assuming for the same reason, that we want to hear him explain himself first.

The most likely scenarios I can see were...
-They stopped silencing me because they thought the town was serious about having someone watch me at night.
-They started on Booth because he was getting heat, and they thought we wouldn't lynch Booth if he was silenced.
-They didn't silence anyone, and Booth employed above strategy for himself.
-Booth was putting heat on a mafia member, so he got silenced.
-They had no rhyme or reason.

Those are the most likely reasons I see for now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/11/09 at 16:59:37

I also think I was silenced in the first place to piss people off at me to get them to lynch me for inactivity.


Quote:
Yeah but last game you just didn't know what to do in that situation. Now you're just using it as an excuse. Speak up a bit, MVT is exactly right in saying that we're letting quiet people slip by. At least Howes recognizes that he'll be lynched fast unless he talks.


I think that was the attitude that the mafia used the first night on me, because the only vote I had on the first day was for flo1, so he couldn't have silenced me:-p

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/11/09 at 17:05:30

Here am I. :)
I'm getting more and more busy recently and having some problems with the net as well.
Though the topic is more quiet now so at least I still can follow it.

Some commments about this day :

-Stinson has been posting a lot this day, even if it is confusing sometimes, so that's mean he likely did get silenced the past days.
-Booth still hasn't post yet, so he is probably silenced, but maybe he is as well a mafia tricking, or just that he didn't get online since the day started. In fact I doubt the mafia did silenced him, since he was one of the top suspects at day 3 and it would be smarter to let him not silenced : if he did get silenced, that's obviously mean we have discovered another townie, so wouldn't be necessary anymore to lynch him.
-Sully is posting way more as well, this is always good for us, but the fact we had to wait that many people casted a vote on him doesn't make him a clean town though. But I haven't more reasons to choose him now.
-Matt's still barely posts, I know he is probably busy but in this game he is mostly defending himself rather than bringing something to the game (a bit like April in fact) indeed his defense is totally not convincing (like "Don't lynch me or you'll make a stupid mistake")... not to say he defended 2 people who were actually mafia. Now he is defending Booth a lot, saying that he knows him well and can guess his status (town or mafia) by his posting style. IMO if Booth is mafia, Matt is also mafia; but if Booth is town, Matt would seems less suspicious (not definitely town...)

I'll wait tomorrow for voting, I don't want to do a stupid lynch, although it will be hard to not kill a townie today (wouldn't be a no-lynch for today an interesting idea, so that the power roles get more information for Day 5 and we can maybe save a townie ? just wondering...)

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/11/09 at 17:35:49


5C77706C711E0 wrote:
I think Honko is town.

Sully is playing, that's good for the moment.  karterfreak's turn.  Say more than just "I'm sorry I defended all the bad guys."  Give us a reason not to lynch you.

Unvote
Vote: karterfreak


For Ivo: http://www.mariokart64.com/mk64/mafia.cgi


I honestly can't really give you a reason. I've played this mafia game horribly in terms of guessing who the mafia are so far. I'll tell you what. Give me one more day, and I'll be able to give you a much better reason than what i'm giving you now. If I don't have a good reason by Day 5, you can lynch me.

Sound fair?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/11/09 at 18:03:06

Vote Fababu
I don't like your style at all, admitting that you think stinson is not mafia, but still voting for him. Do you do this to make it look better in the results when he gets lynched?
"told ya guys"

Besides you've taken no initiative in this game at all. You didn't vote on day one and were one of the last to vote on both day 2 and day 3. This is clearly staying under the radar while still being "active" and "helpful"

BTW: does anyone remember scott's rage about the miscount on the votes during day 3? According to him sportsguy would still be alive if we had counted the votes properly? Now if you go back and check the end of day 2, scott was the one to pressure the vigs into killing the person who was second in votes. Meaning sportsguy would have died anyway. This makes no sense at all to me. Scott, did you knew the miscount beforehand (and only try to look good for town) or did you randomly decide to reread the day? Do you know that sportsguy would have been dead anyway according to your plan?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/11/09 at 18:11:04

These are the votecounts till now

Day1
Flo1: 15 (Honko, IsThatAGoodThing, In Hiding, Syzygy, [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734], dragondragon, nstinson, Jabes, Brutus, Adam L, Etch, Sully, MVT, Kevin Booth, oneshotbillyII)
MVT: 5 (Extol, Darius, Flo1, karterfreak, AlexPenev)
Honko: 2 (%hat, Detective Spril)
karterfreak: 2 (Sportsguy001, Padzup)
Brutus: 1 (Kmacc)
In Hiding: 1 (SuperYoshi1)
Not Voting: Fababu, Howes

Day 2
9 Sportsguy001 (Adam L, Honko, Kmacc, In Hiding, Darius, AlexPenev, Fababu, dragondragon, Brutus)
8 Brutus (Extol, Padzup, Sully, IsThatAGoodThing, Sportsguy001, Kevin Booth, Howes, MVT)
2 Adam L (SuperYoshi1, Jabes)
1 Honko (oneshotbilly)
1 IsThatAGoodThing (Detective Spril)
1 No Lynch (karterfreak)

Day 3
12 - April (Kmacc, Jabes, Darius, Ivo, dragondragon, Extol, SuperYoshi, fababu, syzygy, MVT, sully, Booth)
2 - Booth (Honko, IsThatAGoodThing)
1 - Penev (In Hiding)
1 - Sword (Howes)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/11/09 at 19:18:39


Quote:
BTW: does anyone remember scott's rage about the miscount on the votes during day 3? According to him sportsguy would still be alive if we had counted the votes properly? Now if you go back and check the end of day 2, scott was the one to pressure the vigs into killing the person who was second in votes. Meaning sportsguy would have died anyway. This makes no sense at all to me. Scott, did you knew the miscount beforehand (and only try to look good for town) or did you randomly decide to reread the day? Do you know that sportsguy would have been dead anyway according to your plan?


Scott makes no sense at this game on a regular occasion... do you not remember the fiasco last game when he got everyone to flip and flop all over the place?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/11/09 at 19:27:11

Yo, Ivo.  That was IF the plan was going to happen.  The plan was NOT going to happen, as evidenced by Penev and several others saying not to do it, at the end of Day 2.  It was clear there wasn't enough organization at that point, anyway.  Lenny could've also modkilled Brutus at the start of the night and we would've ended up killing THREE townies in one Night (Sporty, Brutus, whoever we did the plan on).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/11/09 at 20:51:36

Right there'd be two reasons I would vote for Honko. 1 Hes 100% mafia and i wanna kill him or 2 We're both mafia and its the ultimate strategy plan. Either way he's mafia lets kill him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/11/09 at 22:10:57

Honko said before the game started that he would keep me alive until around day 4. If he's mafia he would try to kill me tonight. Maybe I should be watched tonight, in case he is town and the mafia try to frame him :)

I don't have any new targets from today's posts. Sully is still a bit suspicious (or at least not a power anyway) and we can make Kevin talk tomorrow with another watcher threat. With MVT and April gone, that leaves karterfreak as my next biggest suspect. I think it's fishy how he hasn't voted for any of the main lynch targets on any of the days.
- on day1 he didn't vote for Flo. Then he defended Flo. Then once Flo looked certain to die, he voted Flo but was criticised for it by Scott and others. So he changed his vote to the way I had voted (MVT) and left it at that.
- on day2 he didn't vote for either brutus or sportsguy. I voted no lynch, and he copied me again by voting no-lynch, but my vote was for The Plan (I later picked a lynch target) while his no-lynch vote was because he couldn't make up his mind.
- on day3 I didn't vote. He also didn't vote.

Is he trying to hide in my shadow? On day3 he proposed his own Plan of Awesome, but some people didn't like it and said it might be beneficial to the mafia. On day3 he even said that he suspects me on a gut reason, so I don't know why he would copy my play on each day if he suspects me of foul play.


I'm not going to push too hard for him to be lynched. This vote is more of a warning. He said that he will try to defend himself tomorrow, so perhaps we can give him a chance.
vote: karterfreak

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Fababu on 03/11/09 at 22:59:45


042B3E222B24193E23243925244A0 wrote:
[quote author=5C7B6B6F7B68761A0 link=1235628670/1500#1512 date=1236806185]

I don't think that you're mafia but I wanna know why do you think that silencing Booth could be a mafia strategy.


I said this earlier I thought...

Mafia sees that, when they silence me, the town doesn't lynch me, even though they sort of talk about it.. they just never do, because they want to give me time to explain myself (awfully generous of them).. although I'm sure they would have eventually lynched me.

They see that their pal Booth is coming under heat, so they silence him.
Even sully said earlier that we can't lynch Booth... I'm not sure why he said that, but I'm assuming for the same reason, that we want to hear him explain himself first.

The most likely scenarios I can see were...
-They stopped silencing me because they thought the town was serious about having someone watch me at night.
-They started on Booth because he was getting heat, and they thought we wouldn't lynch Booth if he was silenced.
-They didn't silence anyone, and Booth employed above strategy for himself.
-Booth was putting heat on a mafia member, so he got silenced.
-They had no rhyme or reason.

Those are the most likely reasons I see for now.[/quote]

Ok, thanks for the summary; that's what I want to hear.

Unvote

BTW, I won't vote Booth; at least until we can see what happens tomorrow.

Now about Ivo voting me. When I voted for Stinson I do it thinking on unvoting for him after he has answered my question.
I've given my reasons of no vote at day 1; and the tally of voting at day 2 is wrong because I was third or fourth If I don't remind bad.
Time to go, I will finish the message when I come from school.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 02:37:49

Getting pretty quiet, town! Only 4 of the remaining players are mafia, yet there are 9 who haven't even managed 5 posts on Day 4 (Sword, Tom, Fababu, Matt, oneshot, SuperYoshi, Extol, Kmacc and Tim). The mafia could hide quite easily amongst that bunch without having to post much and we wouldn't be able to tell.

Both Sword and SuperYoshi made posts on the last page which were spectacularly inconclusive. Sword's post especially seemed odd: the only advance he made in any direction was that we need to investigate why Booth has been silenced. I think we already established the likely reasons for that, we're having him as a watcher target tonight and he can talk tomorrow. Apart from that, Sword just seemed confused. In fact, Sword has rarely done anything conclusive. Quite often he's gone back on himself after making a statement and on both Day 2 and Day 3 he voted for just one person and then unvoted later (Sportsguy and Stinson respectively). In his favour, on Day 1 he went for Flo reasonably early, so it was a reasonably risky mafia strategy if he is. However, I do find it strange that he keeps having a go at silent people when the only person who's still alive who has posted less than him is oneshot. Also, he seems oddly frustrated with the silencer role and keen to focus on this issue, something which I think we've seen just makes town tie itself in knots. Finally, this comes across to me as April-style 'staged' posting:


50353435040 wrote:
Stinson is posting actively and taking part again! Hurrah! It's about time. I was starting to get irritated by him not being able to talk. But now he can, and I expect lots from him :)


Unvote
Vote: Sword


Sully, you're not off my radar but you are contributing, so I'll leave you for now. I'll work on that plan for you to gather us some intel on Night 4.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/12/09 at 04:06:02

my problem is that I know Honko is mafia, so there really isn't much point posting until he's lynched. [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 04:14:19

Aside from the fact that you can't know Honko is mafia unless you've lied about your role, how is that supposed to make me vote for him? There are a couple of suspicious things about Honko and I particularly don't like the fact that Clark and April left their votes on him on Day 1, but I can't just switch my vote on the compelling argument that 'Honko is mafia'. What if Sword is mafia? Why do we have to lynch Honko first before you and Sean will do anything else?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/12/09 at 04:29:03

can't say for certain with sword but i've got the instincts of a hunger bear and I'm certain Honko is mafia.

yeah you heard it here, gut instinct.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 04:39:38

Alright, I'm game. I believe you're town and I do suspect him, just not as much as Sword, but this is going nowhere and we have less than 18 hours to the deadline. If Honko is mafia, that's all well and good and they're looking pretty screwed. If he's not you have to stop going on about hunches and actually discuss things in detail. Of course, you'll probably get lynched/vig killed anyway if he isn't mafia.

unvote
Vote: Honko



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 05:03:18

Tom you've been wrong before.  I don't quite know what to make of your "instinct" yet, but it might just be random guesses!

I'll have to see how this thing is looking when I get home from school.  Town: Talk!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Syzygy on 03/12/09 at 05:24:41

*Talks*.  Tom seems to rely on hunches as opposed to conclusive proof/strong evidence, however, he seems to know his shit.  I'd like to see the result of this particular instinct and we are running out of time so I have to make a decision :/

Vote: Honko

Booth and Sully are both a bit weird but seem to have changed their playing styles abit and I'm not sure whether it's solid defense/covering up.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/12/09 at 05:54:25

i'm 2:1 in this game and my stats were much better the game before.

I was the one to lay the heat on April. Only reason I went with Penev was to see his reaction. He's a fucking cool cat btw.

flo i named and shamed early on.

Honko - you are mafia, you're doing a good job of making people think you're town, but that makes you more of a mafia power role.

Get ready for the taste of cum.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 07:16:17

Fababu, well, as you're probably a mafia member voting early on day 2 wasn't really that important as we suspected 2 townies, and you knew that  ::)

I really need to reread day 3, gonna do that now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 07:28:08

Vote count update:

Honko 4 (OneshotbillyII, In Hiding, Darius, Syzygy)
Karterfreak 2 (Honko, AlexPenev)
Fababu 1 (Ivootjes)
Sully 1 (Howes)
Stinson 1 (Dragon)

With 19 players remaining, it takes 10 votes to lynch. The day will end in 14 hours 34 minutes.

Let's see some decision making, town! We haven't got that long left. Europeans in particular should be speaking up soon as the last 4 or 5 hours are pretty much useless to us unless we stay up stupidly late.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 07:36:59

last 10 minutes of a day by scott:

8 minutes before the end of the day

Quote:
IF BRUTUS/SPORTY DIE NOW, THE OPPOSITE ONE WILL BE THE NIGHT RENDEZVOUS


5 minutes before the end of the day

Quote:
Robin: Let's do the plan. All we need is FIVE people to confirm that is what we will do, to make it clear that the majority of town is ready for this to happen at night.  It's an all-or-nothing deal, and we need to make sure everyoen sees it.

all or nothing? after such a good first day?

3 minutes before the end of the day

Quote:
Brutus or Sportsguy is lynched now.

The opposite one is instantly our target for night.


2 minutes before the end of the day

Quote:
The plan doesn't need to be enacted in 5 minutes, we simply need to confirm A: that we're doing it and B: that it will be on the opposite of Brute/Sporty.


Please three people post saying you confirm this.


1 minute before the end of the day

Quote:
Okay SPORTY is in the lead in votes this looks like Brutus will be the night person.


PLEASE JUST SOME PEOPLE CONFIRM WE WILL DO THE PLAN TONIGHT ON BRUTUS


This is what he has to say about it afterwards

Quote:
Yo, Ivo.  That was IF the plan was going to happen.  The plan was NOT going to happen, as evidenced by Penev and several others saying not to do it, at the end of Day 2.  It was clear there wasn't enough organization at that point, anyway.


Come on scott, don't lie, this only makes it harder for town. The plan wasn't that good to start with

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 07:43:20

Seriously, i think it's much better to get karterfreak out as he has been more useless and more scummy than Honko.

Unvote Vote: Karterfreak

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 07:53:31

You try thinking clearly when you have a possibility of being kicked out of your home within a couple days. It's not that easy Syzygy. I've been trying my best to concentrate on the game and make good analysis, but when you have other things on your mind, generally your analysis and interpretation of what people say is faulty. Now, I could contribute to the topic and say who I think is suspicious, but with the way my luck has been so far this game, I think it'd actually be worse if I did.

Go ahead and vote for me if you think I'm mafia.

As a note, there's one thing I'm nearly positive of. All you mafioso's voted for April to cover your asses.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/12/09 at 07:57:10

Nate, at least you're trying to help the town now.  Just don't start confusing us again, because I'm not letting you out of my sight.  The more that I think about it, Nate could be trying to relay information he's gotten while being silenced, because it didn't stop him from using his night actions.

Karterfreak hasn't been high on my radar most of the game, but nevertheless he's still remained on there the whole time.  The fact that he has defended people that we've later found out to be mafia could be either an innocent mistake or a mafia slipup.  People have to be careful about who they defend, because it can be thought up as inside information.  Either way, the mafia would like to keep him around since he doesn't seem to know who the town is.  It's no offense to you and your current home situation, Matt, but this game should leave all personal matters aside.

Unvote
Vote: Karterfreak


Edited to unvote.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Syzygy on 03/12/09 at 08:02:52

Matt, what the fuck?  I didn't vote for you.  It's IVO.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 08:08:03

Matt, go ahead and post your suspicions. The more info we've got the better. Oh, i do agree that most of syzygy's info is faulty.

btw: it's nothing personal, don't need to get mad. It's just a game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 08:09:17

Oh lol, i just see that you were talking about yourself.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 08:14:07


505A595A445A230 wrote:
Matt, what the fuck?  I didn't vote for you.  It's IVO.


Sorry, meant to say Ivootjes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/12/09 at 09:12:52


193C2F34282E5D0 wrote:
Getting pretty quiet, town! Only 4 of the remaining players are mafia, yet there are 9 who haven't even managed 5 posts on Day 4 (Sword, Tom, Fababu, Matt, oneshot, SuperYoshi, Extol, Kmacc and Tim). The mafia could hide quite easily amongst that bunch without having to post much and we wouldn't be able to tell.

Both Sword and SuperYoshi made posts on the last page which were spectacularly inconclusive. Sword's post especially seemed odd: the only advance he made in any direction was that we need to investigate why Booth has been silenced. I think we already established the likely reasons for that, we're having him as a watcher target tonight and he can talk tomorrow. Apart from that, Sword just seemed confused. In fact, Sword has rarely done anything conclusive. Quite often he's gone back on himself after making a statement and on both Day 2 and Day 3 he voted for just one person and then unvoted later (Sportsguy and Stinson respectively). In his favour, on Day 1 he went for Flo reasonably early, so it was a reasonably risky mafia strategy if he is. However, I do find it strange that he keeps having a go at silent people when the only person who's still alive who has posted less than him is oneshot. Also, he seems oddly frustrated with the silencer role and keen to focus on this issue, something which I think we've seen just makes town tie itself in knots. Finally, this comes across to me as April-style 'staged' posting:

[quote author=50353435040 link=1235628670/1450#1465 date=1236728109]Stinson is posting actively and taking part again! Hurrah! It's about time. I was starting to get irritated by him not being able to talk. But now he can, and I expect lots from him :)


Unvote
Vote: Sword
[/quote]

My reason for changing my vote on Day 1 : I felt that Tom was trustworthy, and didn't want to jump on the Flo bandwagon because it would look fishy. However, Tom had quite a few votes stacked against him at the time, which I was not aware of, when I posted. As I said, I felt Tom was trustworthy, and didn't want to see him lynched. So I voted against Flo to prevent Tom being lynched. I know I went back on my word, and I'm sorry for that. I should have read the vote tally before hand.

Day 2 and Day 3 switch votes : SportsGuy was annoying me, as he wasn't posting much (which seems a bit hypocritical, I understand) but when he was posting It wasn't much of any value, either that or it just didn't make sense. I wanted him to speak up more, which he did. Then MVT posted that he was on the verge of getting lynched, and I didn't want the day to end earlier than It should have, so I retracted my vote. Stinson, he wasn't posting anything at all. It was coming to the point where I didn't even consider the possibility of being silenced, I just wanted him to talk or get lynched. I mean, 4 posts in a 50/60 page thread? Silenced or not, it was irritable.

I would place my vote on OneShot for the same reason, as he hasn't posted very much at all, but he has claimed a role, and noone else has claimed it, so voting for him at this time would be silly. I can understand people having gut feelings but "I'm not posting again untill ______ is lynched" seems like a pretty poor way to play. It means you don't contribute as much, and if it turns out he was a townie, the trust pretty much vanishes.

Seems that people are getting suspicious of Matt and Honko. I don't see any back up evidence of Honko being mafia, as Tom seems to rely on his gut feeling. Matt I can understand, as he royaly screwed up by defending 2 mafia players. Whether this is intentional is hard to know, but it's always a possibility.

Who to place my vote on right now? No idea, at all. Gonna hold out and hope that Matt and Honko post more to cover their asses.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/12/09 at 09:19:55

Ivo's change of pace is suspicious

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/12/09 at 09:25:22

Ok. Sword your post is highly suspicious, your next on my list. But first lets just get rid of honko, we're wasting time and its getting on my nerves.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 09:37:24

Tom: there is not really a change, day 1 and 2 adam played this game, i spend day 3 reading through 50 pages and today i got time to figure out who's mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/12/09 at 09:47:41

fair point. Not so suspicious.

See everyone, its that simple.. I accuse, if they aren't convincing then they go for the chop.

gaff's hunch ftw!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 09:51:58

I don't think Matt is mafia, I think he's just played the game badly like he says. If he is mafia then he's a total bastard for trying to use personal issues to influence it and I highly doubt he'll ever get trusted in a mafia game again :P

Sword, I think there is definite voting evidence for Honko being potential mafia and, quite frankly, I'd quite like the opportunity to tell Tom and Sean to shut up on Day 5 if they're wrong, so it's win-win as far as I'm concerned. Stinson being 'irritable' is a pretty poor reason for voting for him, particularly if he has a town power role. I still don't understand this obsession with the silencer. Of course the mafia are going to try and annoy the town. If we just vote off people who are silenced because they annoy us then they're just going to start silencing anyone they think is a power role and let us hang ourselves.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/12/09 at 10:03:23

lol, do I then get to say "I told ya so!" when we find out Honko is mafia?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 10:09:33

Absolutely. I'll be delighted if he is mafia. I'm just saying, I'll tell you to shut up on Day 5 if he's not  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 10:11:27

I just woke up and have to get ready to go to class, so I can't post much at the moment.  I see I'm a leading candidate at the moment.  I can assure you I'm not mafia.  If you look back at my votes and posts, every one of my arguments has been backed up with reasoning (except the jokes at the start and on page 28).  I think I've been one of the most open players in terms of letting people see how I'm drawing my conclusions.  If you play this game with your brain you'll know I'm town.

Don't kill Tom even if I die.  Just because his hunches suck doesn't mean he's mafia.  The uncountered jailkeeper claim makes him 99.9% town (the 0.1% being that our real jailkeeper is the most retarded person on the planet), whether you and I like it or not.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Fababu on 03/12/09 at 10:20:05


594542404C5E4A551C2D0 wrote:
Ivo's change of pace is suspicious


Ivo is townie for me anyway, he just come when the game has started and he's playing hard and putting some pressure. He has care about the game, and If he has been reading and re-reading everything as he has said, his inocence seems unbreakable at least for me.
Matt and Honko seems suspicious for me. Matt had got personal issues that has made he couldn't post frequently, but some posts are weird. With Honko happens the same.
Of the two, Honko is the more suspicious for me:

Vote: Honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 10:39:06

Hmmm ok.  I guess I'll post this now while the Europeans have a chance to see it.

I am one of the vigilantes.

On Night 1 we killed Clark. - he was useless and maybe mafia, we got lucky
On Night 2 we shot Oneshot. - same reason we shot Clark, but he didn't die, so he is indeed a bulletproof
On Night 3 we killed MVT. - he was being very counterproductive to town, I guess he's just a bad player.

No, I will not reveal who my partner is.  Even if I die, they can still do the kills, so my death doesn't mean that much.  But if anyone else claims to be vigilante and says I'm not their partner, they are lying mafia.  I'd like to be 1 of the 3 people the watcher "protects" but I won't demand it.

I have to leave now.  Get your votes off me if you don't want to be the top suspect of everyone tomorrow.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 10:50:39

You could actually have worked all of that out without being a vig, of course.

Tom, how do you respond to this revelation? If there are two vigs out there, do let us know as soon as possible.

Sean, can you confirm the story? I know you said the mafia tried to kill you but I don't know what information you get from Lenny if someone shoots you once.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 10:51:25

When exactly does this day end? In like 10 hours right?

Anyway, i think several people gave some reasonable defenses to their actions today (sully, stinson) and some did not. I would at least like to see karterfreaks list of who he thinks are suspicious. And i'm still not sure that fababu is a townie.

BTW: what's up with extol? Hasnt added anything at all today. Unvote, Vote Extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 10:54:02

Lol, i just wrote a story about why i think that we should let our vigs do the night kill and go for no lynch today because i had the feeling you were one of the vigs honko. And you would obviously not shoot yourself. Only to see you had posted that

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 11:04:23

Oh, and if honko is lying:

Real vigs should shoot Honko tonight and we're going to look for someone else to lynch

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 11:08:56

Excellent point, Ivo.

VIGS: DO NOT REVEAL YOUR ROLE IF HONKO IS LYING! If he is, you already know he is mafia. Simply take him out tonight.

With that said, it's time to refocus my attentions.

unvote
Vote: Sword


Your reasoning is spurious. I don't like all this 'irritable' stuff and not checking the votecount.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/12/09 at 11:24:52

Speaking of revealing roles, everyone needs to be doing this at their own discretion.  If we reveal too many roles, we'll start having to threaten watching more people, making it less risky for a mafia to kill one of the publicly made roles.  One more thing to add about the watcher, which SHOULD be obvious, but I see NO reason why they should disclose their role.  No one can protect them (because we lost our bodyguard and the watcher can't watch himself), so they'll be picked off first, and then a chain reaction will occur with all the other roles made public, causing an avalanche of power role deaths.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 11:25:36

@ Ivootjes: See, the problem with me posting my list of suspicious people is that mafia get to see it too, and right now I'm getting to the point where I'm about 65% sure I know who 3 of the mafia are. To be entirely honest Ivo, I don't trust you at all. Adam openly admitted to being mafia, and right now, I think people were overly analistic about what he said before he left. I think he actually was telling the truth about being mafia, because I don't believe he planned on having someone replace him throughout the game.

If I die tonight, Ivo is mafia, guaranteed.

Tell you what, keep me alive one more night, and I'll consider posting who I think is suspicious and who I think is town.

Also, Honko, I believe you when you say you're vigilante, so I'm hoping you will listen to my plea for tonight and not kill me. If I don't provide any useful analasis by tomorrow, you can kill/lynch/rape me or whatever.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Fababu on 03/12/09 at 11:27:35

So that changes everything.

Unvote

IMO, no one will came here saying "Hey, I'm vigilant too; and you're not my partner"; as Honko has said he will be mafia, and the only thing he could win is killing Honko and then becoming lynched at next day. I'm almost sure that Sean hasn't received a message telling him he was attempted to die that night, but he's the best person to say that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 11:45:06

Adam said he was mafia because he couldn't continue playing and didn't know i could replace him. He didn't seem to care that much anymore about the game too. After i told him i could take his role he took that back off course (it wasn't true to start with)

And i don't see how you dying has anything to do with me being mafia? Actually, you saying that also influences mafia's game as they might kill you now just to get me out. I don't think mafia's going to kill someone who's been wrong on every day's lynch anyway.

And what's the problem with the mafia seeing your list of people who are your topsuspects? It's in towns benefit to gather as much info possible. The only stuff that you should keep for yourself is who you think are possible town powerroles, as they might give mafia ideas of who to kill. I don't have a problem with mafia knowing that i think that i know who they are. Only makes them post more which makes the chance of a mistake bigger.

EDIT: this post is a response to karterfreak

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 11:48:52

Well, fine then, if you want to go that way. My current three suspicions are You, Syzygy, and Fababu.

Just watch me be killed at night now. If I get killed, I swear these three are mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 11:56:50

Fine, i like that. (except for that you think i'm suspicious) If you go back to the start of day 4 I already posted some evidence why i thought that syzygy is mafia. Check that post (again) I've also been saying this about fababu for some while now, though i have less concrete evidence and it's just a feeling that he hasn't been that helpful at all during the game. Kind of a gaffikin feeling  :D

Unvote, Vote Syzygy

Or if people want to go with fababu that's also fine by me as i suspect them both.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/12/09 at 12:05:26

People should stop asap with their gut feelings. There isn't actually any evidence as Honko being mafia, and still some people suspected him. That is stupid and suspicious, now that's we know that Honko is a vig, at least until someone prove the contrary, which I really doubt (I expected him to have some power role early in the game)

Dunno who to vote still, will answer in a few hours, need some more analysis...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/12/09 at 12:09:14

@Matt- The mafia could kill you anyway just to make those three look suspicious.

Updated Player/Role list:
1. Honko- Vigilante
2. Extol- claimed to be a needledick
3. IsThatAGoodThing
4. In Hiding-jailkeeper
5. Syzygy
6. Darius - moralist/granny
7. SuperYoshi1
8. Sportsguy001 - Lynched D2 - Needledick
9. [ch9734]Sword[ch9734]
10. %hat - Killed N1 - Cunt
11. dragondragon
12. nstinson
13. Fababu
14. Flo1 - Lynched D1 - Single Female Lawyer
15. Kmacc
16. karterfreak
17. Detective Spril - Lynched D3 - Dominatrix
18. Padzup - Killed N2 - Clingy Whipped Boy
19. Howes - Needledick
20. Jabes - Killed N3 - Needledick
21. Brutus - Modkilled D3 - Needledick
22. Adam L/Ivo - Adam claimed to be a needledick
23. Etch - Killed N1 - Needledick
24. sully
25. AlexPenev
26. MVT - Killed N3 - Cockbite
27. Kevin Booth
28. oneshotbillyII - bulletproof

Roles Left:
5x needledick (not including Ivo and Extol, including Transvestite)
1x virgin
1x stalker
1x skirt lifter
1x womanizer
1x alpha male

2x cunt
1x hooker
1x captivator

Sorry if I missed anyone.

Perhaps I was a bit hasty removing my vote on Sword... I actually suspect him more than sully, but I didn't remember why I suspected him.

unvote
Vote: Sword

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 12:10:15

I get the impression this is just going to get messy now. I get the impression Matt is either tying himself in knots or trying to confuse us...or both. Let's consider a few things:

Sully has stopped posting since I stopped talking about him. Honko, if you are a vig, I suggest you and your partner take out our very expendable friend. He also tried to cast suspicion on you when defending himself.

I think most people would agree that Tom, Sean and I are pretty safe townies. However, look at who jumped on Honko after us: Tim and Fababu. If the vigs kill someone other than Honko tonight, I think we have a couple of good lynch targets for tomorrow. I can't quite understand what Fababu's post in which he unvoted means, so:

Fababu, are you saying that someone else claiming Honko isn't a vig will get killed after Honko? That would only be true if Honko WAS a vig. Sounds more than a little suspicious to me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 12:25:17

Ok, that's several people in a row commenting that fababu and syzygy are both suspicious (karterfreak, me, darius) now we just need to get some votes on them. Honko still got 2 votes, those 2 people need to unvote for sure. It's not like we've got endless time left so i like to see some people voting on today's topsuspects instead of the endless blabla. But off course don't lynch anyone till the end of the day, just add some pressure and see what we get :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Fababu on 03/12/09 at 12:29:19

^Nop, when I say that I want to mean that after Honko has claimed he's a Vig (always considering he's saying the truth); if another person come here claiming that he's also a Vig, but Honko isn't his partner; the only thing that he could earn is convince the town to lynch Honko, and then, as Honko will appear as a Vig; the fake Vig will be lynch in the next day.
Sumarizing, If no one more claims he's a vigilant, is logic to think that Honko is a vigilant; but in the case that someone comes saying he's vigilant and Honko not, we should lynch that second person to see which is the result (if he's mafia = honko is vigilant; if he's vigilant = honko is mafia).
I don't know if I have express it well or if I only have made more confussion  :-[, sorry.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 12:30:23

Forgot to put it in my previous post, so...

Vote: Syzygy

As suspicious as I am of Ivo right now, I'm gonna trust my gut on this one.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 12:30:31

Syzygy has been flying low all game and going for every easy lynch there is.  I suspect him quite a bit.  However, I felt the same way in the last game we played together and he turned out to be town.  So I'm gonna check that carefully before voting him.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/12/09 at 12:48:16

Come on fab, the plan has been explained already, no need to continue talking about wether honk is a real vig or not, those people just need to unvote. Read everything carefully please.

Anyway, i'm off for some hours now, probably gonna be online again at the end of the day, i hope you guys have come to some sort of conclusion by that time.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by In Hiding on 03/12/09 at 13:23:21

unvote

vote fababu

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Syzygy on 03/12/09 at 13:40:33

I swear on my life, or so condemn me forever to hell, that I am town.

Basically, like I said earlier on, I don't have a power role and so haven't taken much of an active interest in the game.  Therefore some of my votes/posts/whatever may have been slightly misinformed because I hadn't taken in the correct information.  Conclusion:  I am lazy.

Unvote

Vote:  Karterfreak


No point playing mafia when you have big issues you need to sort :/  

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 14:03:08

Ivo: In response to your postings at me earlier today, I will try to better explain exactly what I said before you brought all those quotes.

All those quotes were from when I hoped and thought the plan would go down.  However, after the last one, Alex posted saying no plan, hence the plan was essentially OFF.  From that point on we are not doing the plan so we should only have the leading vote getter die and the rest of the roles are free to do their thing.

Brutus was the leading vote getter, but at the end of the day everyone thought it was actually Sportsguy.  Sportsguy was killed, then I realized the error and pleaded with Lenny in IRC for over an hour, carefully showing him the errors in voting and how that affected the outcome.  At that point, the plan was off as well, so we want to keep as many townies alive as we can.  It is also known for sure that Tyler is a townie.  Hence, I beg for Brutus to be killed which is proper.  Lenny had already stated explicitly that Brutus was going to be modkilled at the start of the next day.  So basically what happened was: We killed the person who was modkilled instead, and Lenny accidentally killed the person who was not modkilled OR leading in votes.  We had an extra person die that should not have.

The part you don't understand me on is that all talk that happened AFTER we couldn't come to agreement on Alex's "plan of awesome," then all assumptions are that we will only lose one townie that night.

I haven't lied or tried to deceive you in the earlier posts, perhaps I just wasn't explaining this clearly enough.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 14:09:48

Syzygy (and some others that have done similarly): Swearing on something that you are town, and that kind of stuff, doesn't necessarily free you up.  April said stuff like that and look how that lying bitch turned out (no offense ;) just saying it since you were a Dominatrix lol)

Day ends in EIGHT HOURS.

Lenny didn't realize EST has moved forward one hour relative to AEST and GMT.  So Day 4 ends at 2am EST not 1am EST.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 14:57:37


262C2F2C322C550 wrote:
I swear on my life, or so condemn me forever to hell, that I am town.

Basically, like I said earlier on, I don't have a power role and so haven't taken much of an active interest in the game.  Therefore some of my votes/posts/whatever may have been slightly misinformed because I hadn't taken in the correct information.  Conclusion:  I am lazy.

Unvote

Vote:  Karterfreak


No point playing mafia when you have big issues you need to sort :/  


I can sort out my issues just fine while playing mafia, that's none of your concern.

As Honko pointed out, you've been going for every easy lynch there's been. Same goes for Fababu, which is one of the reasons I'm suspicious of you two.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 15:14:37

Tom: If you're reading this, and you genuinely believe I'm town, I'm asking you to switch your vote from Fababu to Syzygy for now.

Honko: If you're a vig like you say you are (I do believe you by the way), I'm going to ask you for one more day/night of leeway here. You already said you're suspicious of Syzygy, so give me a bit of trust here. I know I've played the game badly so far, but I just have a serious gut feeling telling me that Syzygy is mafia. Provide me with one more day/night of life, and if nothing good comes out of it, then you're free to do as you wish.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 15:29:52

What will one more day accomplish?  If we give you one more day, will you be able to provide some helpful content for town tomorrow?  What's stopping you from posting it today?  I'm not opposed to letting you off the hook for one more day if it really will help, but will things really be different tomorrow?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 15:36:56

Ok, I'm going to bed fairly soon, so it's time to get everything I think out in the open and laugh at you mafia scum because you can't kill me.

Sword, Tim, Sully, Fababu - you four are all looking mafia to me.

Sword, your indecision and subsequent explanation of that indecision did nothing to convince me. You seem to often say things without really paying attention to what's gone before, which suggests to me you're focusing on misleading instead of reasoning.

Tim, you are, by your own admission, lazy. Your voting patterns are looking increasingly suspicious and you don't seem to care much about the game.

Sully, you've had one short burst of actually trying to conduct some detailed analysis after you had some votes on you and then gone quiet again as soon as they came off.

Fababu, I was puzzled by what that explanation of the vig kill was supposed to mean but more importantly, I was keen to see who'd jump on Honko after Tom, Sean and I. Your posts have been more and more strange since.

Right now I trust Matt and I think there are more obvious targets. I say give him the night; I have the feeling things are going to become a lot more apparent on Day 5. Here's what I think we should do:

Lynch Tim. It's possible Sword is just unconvincing and he hasn't declared that he has no power role like Tim has.

Watcher: Booth, Honko or Drag.

Vigs (if neither is Honko): Kill Honko.

Vigs (if one is Honko): Kill Sully.

Cop: Fababu, Sword or karterfreak.

unvote
Vote: Syzygy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 15:42:47

Honko: One more day gives me the opportunity to see if i'm right tonight. Not much more to it than that really. Right now I'm more afraid of the vigs killing me than anything, assuming I get past the situation I'm currently in with the votes.

Here's my idea. If i'm right about syzygy being mafia, I believe we should go for fababu, because he's following the exact same trend as syzygy (this is entirely up for the vigs to decide on whether they want to or not.) If I'm wrong, you can vig kill me, because my opinion is serving no purpose in this game.

If I am right about syzygy tonight, I'd like to ask that the watcher watches me tonight so that if the mafia tries to kill me, we'll know who another mafia is right away. At the same time, that means that any other town night roles such as the cop and womanizer stay away from me for the night so that the watcher will know that it was a mafia that killed me.

This is all under the pretense that I'm right about syzygy. If i'm wrong, just vig kill me at night.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/12/09 at 15:45:44

That sounds good to me.  You seem REALLY sure that Tim is mafia and are willing to risk your life for it.  That's enough for me.

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 15:56:52

Fair enough karterfreak.

Unless some great convincing posts appear from Sully in the next 6 hours, I will kill him tonight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 16:00:21

If its fair enough, why do you still have your vote on me  ::)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/12/09 at 16:02:29

I predict Mafia going for a safe target, like they did last time. They are going to kill someone who the watcher is unlikely to watch, like they did with Jabes.

About the Vigs, I have no clue.

And Darius finding me more and more suspicious I blame on me for not being able to contruct a convincing point. Pretty annoying that I lack this skill, but there isn't much I can do.

This is going to sound extremely suspicious but you should not watch me, scan me or anything ... it's pointless. I have no important role and you'd waste a power that you could use on someone who is more suspicious than I am (but Darius is the moralist, and I'm at the top of his list, so thats a problem)

I feel as If I'm in SportsGuy's position right now. I am town, I know I'm town, and the more I post the deeper hole I dig for myself. I can't give a good reason as to why you shouldn't vote for me, other than the fact that you'd waste a kill on someone who you could dispense on someone who is posing as more of a threat.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/12/09 at 16:08:09

I hate having to rely on other plans without much feedback from myself, but all 4 people Darius listed were on my 10 person list of possible mafia.  Also, Matt would be dumb to make that claim if he was mafia, since we'd kill him next if Tim isn't mafia.

Vote: Syzygy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 16:08:40

Sword, I'm not trying to get you lynched today anyway. If you're unconvincing, why shouldn't we scan you? I don't think there are many people more suspicious than you at the moment and I've recommended we kill two of them, so scanning them isn't going to do much good. There's only one reason for the town not to scan you: the cop already knows what you are. The second reason only applies if you're mafia and you don't want us to know if you're mafia.

Also, when are you going to vote for someone? I think the Tim lynch is pretty compelling, especially after he went for Honko with us. What's your reason against that?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 16:13:40

Oh, I didn't realize I had a vote on anyone.

Unvote

I plan on voting Tim but I still haven't had a chance to read this day fully so I'll wait till I have so I know I'm making the right choice.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/12/09 at 16:24:10

I've held myself from the voting because people are seeming to generate the thought that I'm going to jump onto someone with an unconvincing point and look ridiculous for it. The only reason I voted for Flo on Day 1 was to rescue Tom, as I trust him and didn't want him to get lynched. The other days, I threatened to vote for these guys because they weren't posting much, and when they were, it wasn't anything of any content, and that just irritated me more than anything. But then again I haven't been the most helpful poster, from which I apologise.

And holding my vote back on Tim, I don't find anyone that suspicious at the moment. Fababu's posting style is like that normally, but his voting pattern is strange. Tim was Mario in both games last time, so he was more involved. But he claims to have no role, so he isn't nearly as active. Sully just isn't posting much, but when he does post it is well structured and thought out. So it's hard to say.

If you want me to aid you in this Tim assist, then all is well. But this is to help you, not because I want to. I don't have a strong feeling Tim is mafia, I just feel he isn't interested. I'll vote him to help you out, but I don't think he is mafia.

Vote :
Syzygy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/12/09 at 16:27:15


5075667D6167140 wrote:
Sully, you've had one short burst of actually trying to conduct some detailed analysis after you had some votes on you and then gone quiet again as soon as they came off.

Yeah, sorry for having more important things to do.  I find it funny that you still think I'm mafia despite having no evidence.  But whatever, you'll see tomorrow.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/12/09 at 16:34:39

So it seems there's three people on the chopping block at the moment, tha beng fababu, sword and tim. I've already stated myself that the first two were suspicious to me, but I must have overlooked tim.

For Sword and Tim though, one good thing at least that they have going for them is that they voted early on in the lynching of flo on day 1. To me, fababu is the most suspicious of the three. People say he's acting normal and he may seem to be, if he's mafia he's doing a better job than the others so far that have been lynched. There's something about it though, I just can't put my finger on it...

Also, where is extol? He s definitely suspicious and he hasn't posted much. He's definitely on my list, but I feel for now that fababu is a better suspect.

vote: fababu

I hope tomorrow to try and give more analysis now to further back up what I've said in the past about fababu. Hopefully something catches my eye that gives it away if he's mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/12/09 at 16:40:40

If you want to scan me instead of killing me that'd be great.  Then on Sunday when I leave maybe etch or someone else can come back and take my place.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Darius on 03/12/09 at 16:46:18

Well, that's probably up to Honko and his colleague. They could always trade you with Fababu and have him vig killed instead. I mainly picked you because it seemed like the safest kill as we know you aren't a town power role.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/12/09 at 16:55:04

Alright, I'm finally back from a few days of grueling schoolwork (for anyone who was wondering where i was and didnt catch the post i made a few days ago), and after catching up with the topic (thank goodness its been kinda slowing down compared to the other days) im ready to post my thoughts.

first, the current vote standings according to laceys site:

Syzygy 4 (drag, ivo, karterfreak, darius, sword)
Karterfreak 2 (penev, syzygy)
Fababu 2 (in hiding, kmacc)
Honko 1 (oneshot)
Sword 1 (howes)


My thoughts on everyone left:

Honko: claimed vigilante, could be to save himself, but no ones counterclaiming, so im gonna believe it.
Isthatagoodthing: being his regular self, not suspicious to me.
In Hiding: claimed jailkeeper, which is convincing to me cause its a pretty useless role to claim, pretty sure hes telling the truth.
Syzygy: up there on the suspicious list, posts come off as possible mafia.
Darius: claimed moralist, so hes the safest of us all. i hope hes telling the truth
SuperYoshi: not posting too much, hasnt helped too much but hasnt said anything suspicious either.
Sword: Odd posts, a little bit suspicious to me as of late. doesnt really think syzygy is mafia, so if he turns out to be, im looking at him next.
Dragondragon: some helpful posting, but nothing that really stands out to me. im undecided on him right now.
Nstinson: posted like crazy a while ago, nothing really stood out to me about him either. undecided as well.
Fababu: kind of confusing to me with his vigilante talk earlier, trying to steer us somewhere? dont know about him right now, but hes looking kinda suspicious.
Kmacc: hasnt posted much this day, i guess im neutral towards him.
Karterfreak: was very suspicous after the first day, now im just not sure. but if tim is mafia, suspicion goes down.
Howes: claimed needledick, and i havent seen anything suspicious from him.
Ivo: even though he just entered the game, im pretty sure hes town cause of what adam l said when he was around.
Sully: does seem strange about what darius said, he talked when he had votes but stopped talking when the votes came off.
AlexPenev: not as active this day, but hes helping out a good bit, so its a good coverup if hes mafia.
Booth: silenced today maybe, maybe just not talking to save himself. based on yesterdays stuff, im unsure.
oneshotbilly: claimed bulletproof, and from honko saying he tried to kill him once, thats pretty hard proof.

I think the watcher should watch Honko tonight, because as he's claimed to be a vig, he'll be the number one target.
Honestly, I think the watcher should definitely not reveal himself, or say who he's watching, cause the mafia will know to stay away from that person. instead, i think the watcher has two choices: he could watch a less outgoing person, like howes or drag, because that is who the mafia is most likely to lynch if they think someone like honko will be watched. Or he could watch honko cause hes probably the mafias biggest target, but if the mafia think hes being watched, that would leave the other guys out in the open. either way i think we have about a 50% chance of catching a mafia in the night, but its up to the watcher to decide what to do.

so in conclusion,

vote: Fababu

edit: that makes the count syzygy 5, fababu 3, karterfreak 2, sword and honko 1.

edited again cause i forgot oneshot in my thoughts.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/12/09 at 16:59:26

Darius' plan seems very ok for me. Tim hasn't been very helpful for today (and for the whole game btw) and even if he is town without power roles like he claims, it won't be a big lose for us. Anyway chances that we catch a mafia today appears as weak, seeing the 15-4 ratio, but some claims from people reduce possible mafia suspects though.
Tim isn't one of my main targets and suspects, he has playing like previous mafia games, where he was town, but I won't complain much with lynching him today. Anyway have to go to bed so no more enough time for finding a better lynch apart for Matt (he seems he really want to live one more day, so let's go for it, but tomorrow...)

Vote : Syzygy

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by dragondragon on 03/12/09 at 17:03:39

By my count there are 8 people not including Booth with less than 10 posts today.  I know overall today had less than any other day so far, but seeing as how a day is really 3 actual days, it shouldn't be that hard.  8 out of 18 (not including Booth again of course) is almost 50 percent, so hopefully in  Day 5 more people are back in the double digits again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/12/09 at 17:05:55

yes, i know i will be posting more, back to how i was the first few days, as my spring break starts tomorrow, so ill have more time that im not working on papers and stuff.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/12/09 at 17:13:06


504D415A59020D02350 wrote:
Sully: does seem strange about what darius said, he talked when he had votes but stopped talking when the votes came off.

I dont find it strange at all.  Given how I've described my position here, that's exactly what might be expected of me.

Anyone care to summarize the _factual_ arguments against syzygy and fababu to help me make a decision?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/12/09 at 17:19:14

I'm going to bed now, so you won't hear any more posts from me untill tomorrow.

Last notes - I find Fababu more suspicious than Tim at the moment, as Tim isn't showing any interest, which wouldn't be the case if he were mafia. I know Tim outside of the game and judging from his activity, he doesn't care as much.

Fababu has placed votes on people, demanded an explanation from them, and then removed the vote. He was a late one to join in on the Flo bandwagon, and has been following through carefully but hasn't been solidifying his points.

Matt looks bad with having defended mafia players, but I feel this is more an honest mistake than a purpose mafia teamwork coverup. If Tim does get lynched tonight and he isn't mafia, you're pretty much dead. But you said yourself you are willing to take this chance, so thats your decision.

OneShot thinks I'm suspicious aswell, behind his Honko suspicion ... but Honko claimed his role ... does this mean I'm the most suspicious player now, Oneshot?

Sully doesn't seem like he is mafia. He is one I can say is a town, as its unlikely he'd say "I'm not that useful you can kill me at night if you want it's not a big deal" if he was a mafia player. However if he was, its a risky strategy, and he mafia doesn't benefit from it, so I highly doubt it.

Extol is somewhat fishy to me also ... but he said he couldn't post because of him being busy, which is understandable. His posts seem to continue into one another, as if each one seems unfinished. I can't put my finger on it, but there is something about his posting style that doesn't seem quite right.

Honko seems pretty safe to me. He has claimed an important role and noone has countered it yet, so far I believe him. Also Tom was pushing on him pretty hard, and Oneshot followed. But this was out of gut instinct, so we should let this slide.

Tom seems pretty much safe to say is town ... I'm not saying anything that hasn't been said before. His posts are restricted though, and I've seen him post in other sections of the forum, and he can post quite a bit ... but he doesn't do that here. Nothing suspicious, just something I picked up on.

I don't even need to talk about Darius. The most trustworthy one here.

Kmacc I believe to be town also; he doesn't seem suspicious at all.

DragonDragon slips my mind for some reason ... not too sure why. Perhaps because when he posts its very subtle information I don't tend to notice. There isn't much to be suspicious of from Dragon, but he does have points to make at least.

nstinson, I do not know anymore. I was convinced that he was fooling us all by being quiet for 2 days and pretending he was silenced, but I've sorta converted to the fact that he probably was silenced, and was telling thr truth. This is why I look suspicious ... when he isn't talking I complain how annoyed I am by it, and when he is unsilenced and talks again this starts to fade away. Stinson is 50/50 for me.

Scott is most likely town. The was he acted at the end of one of the days was very unmafia like.

Penev could be fooling us all, but we've decided to keep him in because of the useful information he brings.

Booth, I have no clue. I am certain he isn't a needledick, so he is either a town power or a mafia. But I'm just stating the obvious, right? And yeah I know earlier I said we need to interigate why he was silenced and all the possibilties were found, and it makes sense. He'll live tomorrow and we'll see more from him.

I'm gonna put my vote on Fababu for now. Kmacc and Tom have both voted him for his strange manner of voting and posting, and I'm gonna have to agree. I know I voted for Tim earlier, but I don't feel he is mafia. I feel he is lazy and doesn't care.

Unvote
Vote : Fababu

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 17:33:14

Still not caught up, but I just need to say, I really don't like how some people are saying "Tim was not one of my suspects, but I'll vote him since chances are we won't kill a mafia today anyway."

Sounds like an excellent way for mafia to help lynch an innocent and not look bad tomorrow.  If there are people higher on your suspect list, why aren't you bringing them up and trying to get them lynched?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/12/09 at 17:33:42

Forgot to mention some people.

Howes seems like a likely town candidate. He admitted to being a needledick early in the game, and hasn't posted any dodgy posts. I trust him a fair amount.

Ivo I also pass as being town. Hasn't contributed as much, but he is much more analitical about what he posts. He has spent quite a while reading, and I don't really suspect him.

SuperYoshi I also see as a town. He has posted a fair amount, and they have been lenghty solid posts about his opinions. He seems like a town player who is a bit confused by all the accusation being thrown about.

If any of these 3 turned out to be mafia, I'd be really surprised. I've also thought over a little, and maybe Tim could be mafia. I feel he is moreso not bothered, and Fababu would be a better target. If Tim turns out to be mafia, it's gonna make me look terrible. But I have a feeling telling me Tim isn't mafia, although he could well be. My vote sticks with Fababu as he is the most suspicious to me right now.

And yes, I'm actually going to bed now. Goodnight.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/12/09 at 17:49:31


Quote:
Still not caught up, but I just need to say, I really don't like how some people are saying "Tim was not one of my suspects, but I'll vote him since chances are we won't kill a mafia today anyway."

Sounds like an excellent way for mafia to help lynch an innocent and not look bad tomorrow.  If there are people higher on your suspect list, why aren't you bringing them up and trying to get them lynched?


Tbh I said that because I don't have strong clues as to who is mafia at this point :-/
So I decided to follow Darius' idea and go for Tim, for reasons explained before.
Though I've suggested a no-lynch earlier so we can possibly avoid one innocent killed, I don't think it's a totally stupid idea with 15 townies vs 4 mafia, this would get us more information the next day for the cop/watcher if they reveal themselves. But no one didn't notice this idea and it's relatively quite useless now to vote no-lynch with only a few hours remaining and many people away...
I wish I was less busy this day... :(

*Mick should really really go sleeping :-[*

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/12/09 at 17:56:33

wheres scott, he's usually leading the final hours posting for us :P

i think we should lynch fababu today, there seems to be a good bit of suspicion on him and i think he is likely mafia. as for the vigs tonight, i dont know what we should do, ill leave that up to honko and his partner.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/12/09 at 18:13:22

I won't change my vote now, but I should be around in a couple hours (near the deadline) if that vote is needed. This will be interesting.

* despises his English class and the essay due tomorrow

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/12/09 at 18:18:10

Well fuck me even if your not mafia your a retard Honko. Why the fuck did you try and kill me? Because I posted the fact that i got gatted before your revalations, I'm certainly not taking it as conclusive proof. But rly i guess i'm running out ideas. I'd still like to see Honko dead tbh, he's clouding my judgement.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/12/09 at 18:20:48

In response to Sword, I don't know just because of the fact that i may have confused some of your posts with honko's. We all love toad but he's giving seizures looking at this topic.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 18:21:06

Extol: I was gone until just now, finally caught up.

I think Fababu seems a better choice than Tim as well.  Darius is providing us good information now that he's the claimed gunman, but I'm afraid that with him suggesting ideas, it will be hard for us to tell who got the ball rolling when it was a townie.  When he doesn't suggest ideas, then sometimes you can tell who was the first to push and the first to back them up on it.

Perhaps Darius should just refrain from voting from now on to help keep himself from getting too much influence?

Oneshot: You should vote for Fababu as well.

Vote Fababu

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/12/09 at 18:21:11

i know how you feel howes, i have a big paper due, plus i have a text at 8 tomorrow morning, but im going to try to stay on til the end of the day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/12/09 at 18:27:27

scott, whats your suggestion for vig kill tonight?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 18:28:49


435E45490A0 wrote:
Well fuck me even if your not mafia your a retard Honko. Why the fuck did you try and kill me? Because I posted the fact that i got gatted before your revalations, I'm certainly not taking it as conclusive proof. But rly i guess i'm running out ideas. I'd still like to see Honko dead tbh, he's clouding my judgement.

I tried to kill you because you never posted a single thought of your own, just "I agree with Thomas" and didn't add anything useful to the town.  If you turned up town, no real loss since you don't contribute anything.  If you turned up mafia, another win for us.  Unfortunately you're bulletproof so we're stuck with your useless ass.

Honestly, why do you even bother to sign up?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/12/09 at 18:32:08

Robin, if you shot him, he isn't really bulletproof any more. He only survives one extra shot, and he isn't immune to all night kills like the Moralist is.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 18:35:25

Well the maybe the mafia will do us a favor and get rid of him.  I'm not going to use a vigilante kill on a confirmed townie no matter how worthless he is.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/12/09 at 18:39:54

Well fuck you Honko, I said about 5 times i was town and you know it. Call me useless if you want but all your posts have led me to believe is that your mafia, you slopey looking bastard.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 18:43:47

Austin: When I try to ignore what has been said specifically (Like Darius and his big post) the first thing that comes to my mind is to scan Booth and kill Kmacc, but I don't know why Kmacc came to mind so suddenly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/12/09 at 19:09:37

I really don't have time to read through individual posts, but I didn't realize day ended tonight, I thought it was tomorrow night.

Here are some of Fababu's stats:

Posts
Day 1: 8
Day 2: 7
Day 3: 7
Day 4: 6
Total: 28

That is easily some of the lowest in the game, and I'm still sure when I say there are mafia members left who seldom post.

Vote Patterns
Day 1: Didn't even vote (trying to not look like a suspicous bandwagoner? flo was doomed anyway)
Day 2: Sportsguy (Everyone we voted for was townies that day, but he was quick to jump on the bandwagon. I'll admit I was too, and I'll take accountability for that mistake >_>)
Day 3: April (towards the end, trying to look like townie possibly knowing april was already doomed)
Day 4: #1) stinson (imo bad choice cause he was silenced, and he actually posted a great deal today) #2) Honko (quick to jump on this bandwagon before he had to unvote in order to not look stupid after honko's claim).

Sorry I can't come up with any better analysis. I can't say I'm 100% confident on fababu being mafia, but he is definitely the most suspicious. If he had a claim to make in order to save himself, now would be a good time.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 19:11:45


4459424E0D0 wrote:
Well fuck you Honko, I said about 5 times i was town and you know it. Call me useless if you want but all your posts have led me to believe is that your mafia, you slopey looking bastard.

You said you're town?  So what?  That doesn't help us at all.  Guess what you fucking retard, mafia could say they are town too.  Whoooooooa didn't see that one coming did you?  This game sure is complicated!  All you're doing is proving you're too stupid to be playing.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/12/09 at 19:26:56

If Honko is a vig then I don't think he will be making any more kills during the game unless he feels that he is being watched doing it. The vigs sometimes make mistakes (current strike rate 33%) so Honko is probably not the mafia's biggest target. The mafia would be more interested in the cop or watcher. So Honko's roleclaim would save Honko from a lynch today, but also reduce the mafia's list of cop/watcher suspects by 1. If Honko gives his partner the night-kill duties, then the mafia has a slightly higher chance of blocking the vig kill, if they accidentally kill Honko's partner (hoping that he's really a cop or watcher). So perhaps Honko shouldn't outright refuse to do any more night kills.

Darius suggested Booth, Honko and Dragon as watcher targets. Karterfreak suggested himself as a watcher target. I don't think Karterfreak is a suitable target. He has already agreed to die tomorrow if his guess today is wrong, so his days might be numbered and the mafia will have no reason to go for him tonight.
As for Darius's suggestions, if some of those watcher candidates are being scanned by the cop as well, then do they need to be watched? With the mafia framer dead, the cop will get legit readings from his scans. Maybe the cop and watcher should have different targets to spread out the powers?

My biggest suspects at the start of today were Kevin, Sully and karterfreak. But I'm not sure if they are worthy targets of the cop scan or watcher watch. If Kevin is silenced then it's confirmation that he's town, and the jury will judge karterfreak tomorrow based on today's lynch result. That leaves Sully. Did the vigilantes plan to kill Sully?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 19:29:30

Shouldn't the watcher keep an eye on Booth to make sure he isn't "silenced' again?  Know he's not the gun owner so it'd be safe to go on him with prying eyes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/12/09 at 19:31:03

Well depending on who is lynched (fababu, tim), I think the other could be a potential scan. Extol, sword and sully are also candidates for that.

As for watcher, it should be honko and probably two other people you are very confident are town and may get lynched because they are "safe targets" (like Jabes was).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 19:32:06

Fabs and Timmy both have 5 votes, but Syzygy would die at the moment by the tiebreaking procedure.

How about Honko and Alex to be watch-threatened?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/12/09 at 19:43:32

Current Vote Count

5 - Syzygy (Ivo, karterfreak, Darius, dragondragon Superyoshi)
5 - Fababu (In Hiding, Kmacc, Extol, Sword, Scott)
2 - karterfreak (Penev, syzygy)
1 - Honko (oneshot)
1 - Sword (Howes)

Not voting: nstinson, fababu, sully, booth, honko

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/12/09 at 19:44:01


1B21063A332613153D3D36063A3B3C35520 wrote:
Shouldn't the watcher keep an eye on Booth to make sure he isn't "silenced' again?

Yeah, okay, Booth is one. I was worried before that he was the granny since that was the only role that he could have been playing "well" with his confusing posting style. :)

We should aim for 3 targets. Having 4 or 5 targets is a bit too low-threat. Let Kevin be one, so that we can hear from him tomorrow (we're not going to lynch him today anyway, so the mafia has no reason to keep their silencer on him). Sully is good as a cop scan, but not as a watcher target. That leaves 2 free slots for the watcher. Darius suggested Karterfreak and Dragon, but I just explained why karterfreak is not a good target. His slot should be taken by someone else. Dragon would be one of those "safe kills", but there's several such "safe kills" and naming one just means that the mafia will take up the other. So perhaps all 3 targets should be people we want to keep, and not people who look like safe kills, because as soon as we pick out one of the safe kills and give it a name (e.g. "dragon") then it's no longer a safe kill.


Quote:
How about Honko and Alex to be watch-threatened?

The last game the mafia left the vigilante (Tom/DK) alive the whole game even though they knew who he was. They were hoping he would make some mistakes and kill some townies for them, and they got unlucky that Tom made good decisions (2 out of 3 of them). So while Honko is a power, I don't see him as the mafia's main target UNLESS the targets Honko has spoken about are mafia. In that case, if Honko dies then we can start looking at whoever Honko suspected. Otherwise I think it might be like the previous game -- the mafia will leave him alone and hope for mistakes while they try to figure out who are the more mafia-threatening roles.
As for me, Honko said that he will let me live 4 days. And now he says he's the vig. So he can keep his word :) But I've been expandable the whole game anyway, and Darius has taken over as being the conductor. Anyone more worthy of keeping?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/12/09 at 19:47:32

Vote: Fababu

Anyways, I hope the vigs dont kill me tonight.  I know I havent been participating much, but I'm obviously town.  I'm going to be going away on vacation sunday morning, so I can have another player step in for me on day 5 and hopefully serve the town better.  No sense in killing off a townie for no reason.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by nstinson on 03/12/09 at 19:49:14

Vote: Fababu

time to end this

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 19:53:45

You purposly avoiding the fact that if I'm right, the watcher will know that before he makes his decision of who to watch Alex? If I'm right, I say the watcher watches me, but only if i'm right.

Vote syzygy, he's the one 95% sure on, I'm about 85% sure about Fababu.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by karterfreak on 03/12/09 at 20:02:41

Well, I guess in the end it doesnt matter, considering I'm suspicious of both of them anyways.

Honko + other vig: If fababu gets lynched, kill syzygy, if syzygy gets lynched, kill fababu. Either way, I want syzygy dead, because if he's mafia, then I'm feeling safe for another day, unless mafia kill me anyways <.<



Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/12/09 at 20:24:05

Matt, we can't get too confusing now telling people to switch over because it'll end up similar to day 2. It is very possible the one that doesn't get lynched will get vig killed, so either way it doesn't completely matter.

And like I said earlier, imo watcher should watch honko or two people you are sure are townies and would be a "safe kill" for mafia.

People should just stck by saying something like that, rather than "watch so and so", because by saying someone right out, mafia will know not to kill them. It's better to keep them guessing and let them make a wrong move, rather than giving them a good amount of choices.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Howes on 03/12/09 at 21:00:13

Whatever. This is taking too long. My best bet is Sword, but this day is going nowhere. Let's finish it already.

unvote
Vote: Fababu


edited for not thinking at the time of original post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/12/09 at 21:07:59

the count is now Fababu 8, syzygy 5, if it stays like this for the last hour, Fababu will be gone.
Its unfortunate for both of these guys that the votes didnt start getting put on them til after they were asleep most likely, but i think we have good enough feelings about these guys that they wouldve had a very hard time convincing us otherwise. at least thats how it is for me, im almost sure Fababu is mafia, from looking back at his posts about the vigs and such.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 21:31:26

Well, we've got 30 minutes left, so looks like things are pretty much set now as the posting activity has calmed down.

I don't have that insane excitement at the end of the Day, so maybe something inside me is comfortable with these results?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/12/09 at 21:42:17

It may also be from the fact that there's no activity so you'd be talking to yourself.

I really want to go to bed, but I'm curious of course to see the results. Damn time zones differences.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Extol on 03/12/09 at 21:42:28

any final remarks/plan ideas from anyone? i think we're pretty well off this day/night if all goes as planned.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kmacc on 03/12/09 at 21:49:40

Current Vote Count

8 - Fababu (In Hiding, Kmacc, Extol, Sword, Scott, sully, nstinson, howes)
5 - Syzygy (Ivo, karterfreak, Darius, dragondragon, Superyoshi)
2 - karterfreak (Penev, syzygy)
1 - Honko (oneshot)

Not voting: fababu, booth, honko


For night actions, in my opinion:

To be watched: Honko, and other most likely townies who may be considered a "safe kill".

To be scanned: Extol, Sword, Possibly Sully

These are just my opinions, but at least its feedback for the power roles to help them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 21:50:41

Note on time zone differences:

If every night role happens in time, Lenny can do it in the morning for him, before he goes to school, or even before he goes to BED, if it is done soon.  So try to get roles and moves in quickly and we can save a few hours!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/12/09 at 21:50:49

You're forgetting that we might watch booth to bring him back into the game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Honko on 03/12/09 at 21:51:32

Alright, Fababu's gonna get lynched, and I'll kill Tim tonight.

Watcher, watch me, Booth, and dragon I guess.

Cop, check sully unless you have a better suspicion to go on.

Mafia, kill oneshot. ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 21:51:52

To be watched has to include BOOTH.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/12/09 at 21:53:34

Sounds good, watcher on honko, booth, dragon

Maybe this means honko wont kill me, hurrah!  but yeah by all means scan me.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 21:53:52

Also, this time Goose says the topic should be locked RIGHT on the hour, no more reopening it to add extra tidbits after the hour has passed.  He said he will have the writeup ready in a couple minutes later.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by sully on 03/12/09 at 21:55:30

So friday will be night time and then saturday will be the start of day 5.  I'll be leaving for vacation on sunday morning, so should we have someone take over for me then?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/12/09 at 21:56:11

Lenny has confirmed that as soon as all nightstuffs have happened, he will open the topic.  It's Saturday for him so he will be able to do it nicely.

Lockers: Kevin Booth is going to lock/unlock the topic for Goose to make his post.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/12/09 at 22:12:57

The townies all went down the market square.  Goose was bored and didn't feel like writing as he just had written a paper for school the night before.  They all jizzed on Fababu's face and he died.

Then they woke up.

Everyone had just jizzed themselves in that dream.  I don't know why they did, don't ask me, but they did.  They might get off thinking about Fababu, I don't know.  Again, don't ask me because I'm just some random dude writing shit.  But they knew it was time to kill someone.  The question was "how do we kill someone if we have no ammo?"  Get it, like, the jizz is ammo, and it shoots out of the gun.  Yeah.  Kewl eh?

The townies went and got their domestic horses.  They rode their horses into the town square looking like a load of badasses.  They looked kind of like Ganondorf riding out of the Town Market in the Ocarina of Time when you come back to the Town Market after collecting all three spiritual stones, except they weren't evil; they were kind of like the jockey of Secretariat too, but not as small or weird like a jockey.  I hope you're following because the detail of how they rode into town is very important.  Picture the horse saying "HAY GUYS" and the jockey saying "YOU LOOK FABABULOUS TODAY!" and minus the gay factor by 10% and you have what I am trying to describe.  But add in swords and shields and musical instruments and stuff.

Anyways, they tied up Fababu onto like, a table top.  You know how when cops pull over a black dude and they make him stand up with his chest down on the front of their car?  They did that to Fababu.  Tied him like that.  His head was in a bucket.  They offered him a deal.

"We won't fill the bucket with our jizz if you allow yourself to be anal raped by our horses." said one townie.

Not knowing that everyone was out of ammo, and being slightly inspired by Braveheart, Fababu replied "Never!  FREEEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!"

I'd go on with this, but we'll just say this went back and forth 12 times to save us space and time (especially since Scott is a little bitch who is urging me to write fast.  Fuck you Scott.)

Anyways, the townies were not pleased with Fababu's not so fababulous decision, so they shouted "IN THAT CASE... DEATH BY BOOKAKKE!!!!!!!!!"

Fababu demanded "what is BOOkakke?"

Bookakke is what the town calls "getting raped in the ass by a horse."

The horse with the biggest penis was selected, raped Fababu in the ass for an hour, and he died.  Just like Mr. Hands.

Fababu was a cunt, a member of the mafia.

You know have 24 hours to send in your night actions to Lenny.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 4]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/13/09 at 22:04:37

YES YES YES!  I can talk again.  Stupid fucking Mafia.  Well got my GF over so I'll talk more later... just wanted to give a huge WOHOO!!! I so bad wanted to talk and get modkilled it was so freaking hard not to.  Damn addicting game.  Later on.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Lenny on 03/13/09 at 23:12:20

The gods, namely myself, decided that everyone would get up an hour later, due to excessive cum use. Oh well. Looks like there was some pretty damn epic crossfire or something going on during the night, cause a virgin AND a cunt happened to die. How interesting.

Syzygy has been killed. He was a Cunt, a mafia member.

Honko has been killed. He was a Virgin, a town vigilante.

With 16 players alive, 9 votes are needed for a lynch. The day will end in 72 hours on, Tuesday 17 March at
6pm AEST
3am EST
7am GMT


My apologies for being late, my net died this morning and was trying to fix it all day. :(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:13:53

Booth is now dead, imo. He would have no way of knowing he wasn't silenced or killed unless he's mafia.  Opening the topic to post himself is beyond normal activity.

He's been doing odd shit all game but this is the last straw for me.  I'll start off the second consecutive day with a vote on him.

vote: Booth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by dragondragon on 03/13/09 at 23:15:57

Yeah, I don't like jumping to conclusions normally, but Booth, there's no way you'd know you weren't silenced unless you were mafia.  This on top of the confusion brought out the past few days is enough to warrant this vote from me.

Vote: Booth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Honko on 03/13/09 at 23:16:23

Ah well, I figured my days were numbered.  It looks like you guys are in good shape to wipe out the rest of the mafia now.  Good luck everyone! [smiley=beer.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by dragondragon on 03/13/09 at 23:19:10

I don't want the watcher to reveal themselves if they watched that event take place, because I assume mafia sent Tim to make the kill to cover their tracks just in case Robin got watched (unless of course mafia was stupid enough to send someone else lol)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by karterfreak on 03/13/09 at 23:21:58

Alright, Watchers still alive, so time for some shit to go down.

I'm the Cop

Scanned Town
Scott
Booth

Scanned Mafia
SuperYoshi1
Ivootjes

There's a chance that one of them could be the tranny, but right now, I say we just kill both of them off now, and have the watcher watch me at night so that if one of them is the tranny, the alive mafia will be found if he tries to kill me, and we'll win the game.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:24:48

K,

unvote
Vote: SuperYoshi


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by dragondragon on 03/13/09 at 23:25:35

Hmmm Booth is town?  I guess I suggest starting with Ivo, because Adam L admitted to being mafia before Ivo took over.

Unvote
Vote: Ivo

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:26:44

WTF, when Adam said he was mafia, and I BEGGED BEGGED BEGGED for people to vote for him no one did and everyone bought his story that he was joking.  So WTF is the truth?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by karterfreak on 03/13/09 at 23:29:53

Vote: SuperYoshi1

No matter what, town wins now, scott and booth are guaranteed town because early in the game the single female lawyer was killed, and i didnt find a mafia until april/dominatrix was killed.

I get one more scan tonight if i dont get killed, if i do, the watcher will find the killer.

If we dont get the information we need, you'll know the safe town, so you'll be able to narrow your lynching group to a much smaller group. We still have two alphamales left, so they should admit who they are now, as well as the remaining vig. We'll have so many people overpowering the last mafia that he'll never stand a chance.

Game. Set. Match.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:30:03

Mafia can either all claim needledick or some claim needledick and some claim power, if we all claim now.  Since oneshot's an alpha male due to robin's clear posting, that means there's only one more alpha male left.  This means the mafia would all have the best shot by claiming needledick which would make 8 claimed needlers and 9 claimed power roles = we win as we kill them all off.  Game's over.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by dragondragon on 03/13/09 at 23:33:33

I'll switch my vote over to Yoshi once everyone has had time to read Matt's cop claim.  I want to make sure it's not a trap to get an early lynch before the cop has a chance to reveal himself.

Unvote

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:33:48

I'm going to wait until someone confirms my logic in the last post before revealing myself.  Someone back me up here?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:36:21

We kill 2 at a time, one day and one night.  Even if they chose 1 needledick 1 alpha male and 1 other power role, that'd take 6+3+2 = 11 kills which is 5 day/nights and one more day.  That means mafia would only be able to kill 5 town powers in that time = we still have guys left.  The alpha male, if our vigs tried hitting him at night and he didnt die = hes a real alphamale, and still alive, so the other one is fake.  I am pretty sure we can end the bullshit, just finish this up with logic and be done.  Like it's not a 100% guarantee but it's got to be well over 90%

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by karterfreak on 03/13/09 at 23:37:01

Right now, the mafia cant claim a power role, because if they do, the other person will open up and counter claim, leading to them both being killed and us winning regardless.

I may have played somewhat stupid this game, but it wasnt completely on purpose, trust me :P

Remember when I used syzygy's name in placement of Ivo's? I knew Ivo was mafia already then, I was suspicious of syzygy. I mindfucked syzygy when I used his name instead of Ivo's (intentional mistake) and looked for a suspicious reaction. Instead of just pointing it out quietly, not making a big deal about it, he made it look like a huge deal in his one post response. Yeah, it was a big hunch, but i was playing a gamble and it sure as hell worked.

Good Game mafia scum  8-)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/13/09 at 23:37:07

Karterfreak was right on both Syzygy and Fababu. Either he's town or he's going to be the last surviving mafia :)

Honko... shame about him dying a virgin. My thoughts were that if the mafia wanted to kill him it would have been because he and his vigilante partner were planning to kill one of the mafia tonight. Honko had said that his target was Sully and Darius also said to go after Sully... and yet, Honko let his partner make the kill and the kill was Syzygy. Did I miss the part where Honko had changed his target to Syzygy? Was the mafia trying to protect Sully?

Kevin posted at a time when Lenny wasn't online (on the forums or in IRC) so Lenny hadn't yet given out the PMs. This means Kevin could not know if he was vig-killed, mafia-killed or mafia-silenced at the time... what's your explanation, Kevin?

vote: KevinBooth

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by dragondragon on 03/13/09 at 23:37:51

I don't think anyone else should reveal their roles until we've confirmed that no one else claims they're the cop.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:40:19

Drag: if someone else claims cop that's the second person to kill, once we kill one of them we know what the real one said was correct.

I'm saying that even WITHOUT proper cop info we have it in the bag right now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by dragondragon on 03/13/09 at 23:42:04

Right, that's assuming we don't lynch before everyone has checked the topic.  I'm just trying to make sure we don't rush into things TOO quickly.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/13/09 at 23:43:21

I just saw Karterfreak's message. I'll go with his vote on Mikael.

unvote /kevin
vote: SuperYoshi1

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:43:48

Okay so everyone claims and someone else ends up claiming cop: doesnt matter.  We just make them the 3rd or 4th target and ignore what they say until we kill them, then we know who was the real one.  This way we have 3 or 4 new names, which at that point confirming a cop gives it to 100% I think.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:46:27

At 3 mafia vs 14 town, our chances of a mafia kill TODAY are 21%

If everyone claims then we have either 50% or 33% as the best chance, depending if they choose an Alpha Male or not to claim copy of someone else.

It's OVER if we claim.

Trying to analyze and shit will be a total fucked mess and we'll end up killing townies for SURE if we just keep playing now.  So many townies have played so badly that they are going to start dropping then suddenly we're screwed.  The ratio right now is as good as it's going to get and that's good enough.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by karterfreak on 03/13/09 at 23:48:31

Would a mafia take a gamble of taking two of his remaining 4 mafia when there's this many townies alive? If you seriously want to wait on it, then go for it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:48:52

Once someone else claims I'll do mine and we'll start the trend.  Just want to make SURE I don't have a flaw in my logic here.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:49:44

Karterfreak: WHAT did you just say? Didn't catch the meaning of that or who it was intended for.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:56:17

Forgot Fabs was dead as Lenny didnt have it in the first post properly.  Only TWO mafia left. It's all over.

2. Extol
3. IsThatAGoodThing
4. In Hiding
6. Darius
7. SuperYoshi1
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]
11. dragondragon
12. nstinson
15. Kmacc
16. karterfreak
19. Howes
22. Adam L
24. sully
25. AlexPenev
27. Kevin Booth
28. oneshotbillyII

5xNeedledick
1xVirgin
1xStalker
1xKidnapper
1xMoralist
1xSkirt Lifter
1xWomanizer
2xAlpha Male
1xTransvestite

1xHooker
1xCaptivator

Time to claim up, IMO.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:58:08

Okay now that I realize there are 2 mafia only (Fabs wasn't properly listed when I just copied/pasted the list from Page 1), I will do my claim. It's all over
I am womanizer

Night 1 3 and 4 I used my stuff on Booth, night 2 I used on none.  I just kept with booth as i knew he wasn't gun owner and I thought he wasn't a goodguy.  If he was watcher or something, sorry lol, but I just didn't want to hit gun watcher and didn't want to not move.  I had no clue lol.

Own up everyone, it's over for sure now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by karterfreak on 03/13/09 at 23:58:19

That was directed at dragondragon. I was saying that if I was mafia, it'd be a stupid decision to 'give up' two mafia (fababu and syzygy) just to get two people killed when I would be killed right after if they were town that I accused of being mafia. See why it'd be retarded if I claimed to be cop if i was a mafia?

Lemme say this again

I'm the Cop

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/13/09 at 23:58:54

Btw appreciate it if mafia just reveal themselves now.  You realize there is no chance to win, and no one wants to have to wait a week to talk about the results

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/13/09 at 23:59:52

I think karterfreak must really be the cop. If he was mafia and this was a trick to uncover town roles, he wouldn't have pushed for both Fababu and Syzygy last night.

@Scott: karterfreak's plan sounds like it shouldn't try to reveal the watcher, so that karterfreak can be watched. It sounds like you're itching to claim your role, but if you're the watcher then perhaps you shouldn't roleclaim unless you've seen some mafias at night. (I had you down as a blocker, though.)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:00:50

Just thinking of claims that already happened, we can start a list of claimings.  Just add yours to the list and once there are more than X amount on each one we know where to start lynching.


Quote:
5xNeedledick
1xVirgin
1xStalker -- Karterfreak
1xKidnapper
1xMoralist
1xSkirt Lifter
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot
1xTransvestite

1xHooker
1xCaptivator


Someone else help me fill this in?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:01:43

Wow Alex that was pretty good how'd you know I was bloxor

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by dragondragon on 03/14/09 at 00:02:24

Quote:
6xNeedledick
1xVirgin
1xStalker -- Karterfreak
1xKidnapper
1xMoralist -- Darius
1xSkirt Lifter
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot

1xHooker
1xCaptivator

Changed Tranny to Needledick, because they think they're Needledick

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:03:37

Drag just put your role in, no reason not to now.  Whatever you are just put it there's no way we can lose and I want this stuff over with so we can talk about the whole thing.  Instead of having it take a freaking week because ppl are pussy, just give your role, we kill the duplicates, and it's over.  There's no way mafia can win at all, not possible.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/14/09 at 00:06:57


0B31162A233603052D2D26162A2B2C25420 wrote:
Wow Alex that was pretty good how'd you know I was bloxor

You screamed it out when you said "I need to know what I should do tonight" in the hysteria of The Plan going down or not. And you weren't the protector, so either watcher, blocker, cop or vig. I have Kmacc or Howes down as the second vig. Matt is cop. I don't know who is watcher. Dragon maybe?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:07:47

6xNeedledick
1xVirgin
1xStalker
1xKidnapper -- Tom
1xMoralist -- Darius
1xSkirt Lifter -- Karterfreak
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot

1xHooker
1xCaptivator

Had karter as stalker but hes skirt lifter didn't remember offhand which was which.
Tom has claimed kidnapper.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/14/09 at 00:09:34

You guys are the biggest idiots alive.  Nights only last 24 hours or when all night actions are in.  So the night started 11pm pacific on Thursday, so screw Lenny and his lazy ass if he can't get here by 11pm Friday to post all the Pms and shit.  Is not my fault he can't read a clock.  So if I don't receive a PM in 24 hours after night starts, then I assume I'm not silenced, and yes....

I FAKED IT.  The mafia did exactly what I expected and were afraid to silence anyone, proving once again just how hypocritical you all are.  You all voted for me first, then all took your votes off me when I said absolutely nothing.  Then cause I make a post that you THINK was against the rules, but think again, it's Day 5 by a few minutes!  Not waiting for Lenny when I got better things to do ;)

And let me tell ya, everything was damn obvious when I was keeping track of the posts privately, as you may have guessed.  I didn't log into my login to this server after the day started.  Man it was hard not to talk but i told myself I gotta do it to save my bacon and make sure you idiots didn't roast town people again.  I knew Matt would come through, and be a power role, and yes after he made that one post where he put his life on the line, I knew he was the cop.  Kinda funny how mafia didn't get him.  I guess they thought the watcher was on him, but not giving them that much credit.

Still, Tranny, I guess someone said the Tranny knows themselves?  I thought they see themselves as needle dick, but others see them as mafia, but hell I don't understand any of the roles, so oh well.

Either way, since the mafia is pretty much done, I am Town, and I am a needledick (at least according to the PM i got from Lenny)  So whatever you wanna do, I don't give a shit anymore.  Man about 4/5ths of the posts I read were just stupid and it was so hard not saying anything, you don't even know.  

Either way, you know your targets now.  I say everyone reveal themselves, and the last mafia will fake needle dick, and then we just kill all the needledicks or whoever is one role  too many on the count.  So either way, you don't need me, and you don't need me to get a consensus for a  lynch, so my work is done.  Pulling this trick on you, and seeing all you stupid people vote for me when I'm a needledick or thinking I'm some power role, just proves how hypocritical you are for calling me such.

Yes, my "special" power is I can control my post content.  I can be a bigger spammer than Scott, or I can excercise my right to be silenced, without Lenny's help!  And I guess nobody got my "were all townies deep down" comment.  come on, that's easy..... Mafia can talk during the day, and they can Lynch during the day.  They can't kill during the day, and they can't use their night actions during the day.  So during the day, we are all fucking town.  God, who doesn't get that?

And lastly, all you fuckers that thought I said not to lynch April are idiots.  I just said I wasn't gonna vote for her right away.  When I say KMacc's comment, he was dead set serious and made it an obvious vote, so to save my bacon + take his strong comment into consideration, I voted for her.  You all act like I was backing her up, I wasn't.  I just wasn't leading the charge..  Only guy I was really right about was Sportsguy, but I was glad I was silent looking back cause by being so, I realized everyones role and that the mafia was finished, and that is what counts.  And well since you still win even if you die if your team wins, it is time

VOTE: KevinBooth

see ya on the other side bastards, and for the last fucking time, I never deleted any god damn posts in this mafia thread.  Unreal.  I don't know who did it, but it pissed me off, cause i made great comments to piss off Brutus, and someone countered that by deleting his posts which in turn pissed me off to no end.  So ya, I guess you get credit for cheating there, but oh well, I guess were about even there now, aren't we?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by karterfreak on 03/14/09 at 00:09:45

5xNeedledick
1xVirgin
1xStalker
1xKidnapper -- Tom
1xMoralist -- Darius
1xSkirt Lifter -- karterfreak
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot
1xTransvestite

1xHooker
1xCaptivator


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:15:26

6xNeedledick -- Booth, Adam L
1xVirgin
1xStalker
1xKidnapper -- Tom
1xMoralist -- Darius
1xSkirt Lifter -- karterfreak
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot

1xHooker
1xCaptivator

Who else has claimed Needledick?  Can't remember offhand.

Still no one has claimed a role that brings a false possibility.  Mafia may as well just hang it up no reason to stretch this out.

Booth: We have two confirmed mafias, vote for superyoshi with us instead.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/14/09 at 00:17:30

Adam is Ivo is the mafia target.
From the people left alive, I'm pretty sure Extol also claimed needledick. As did I. Sully said his role wasn't useful, so maybe that's also a needledick claim.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:17:51

Drag: why too shy? Everyone else has claimed that posted, so far.  If you're mafia just give it up boy, if not there's no reason not to be role-ing.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:19:52

6xNeedledick -- Booth, Penev, Extol, Ivo, Sully
1xVirgin
1xStalker
1xKidnapper -- Tom
1xMoralist -- Darius
1xSkirt Lifter -- karterfreak
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot

1xHooker
1xCaptivator

Alex what did you mean about "Adam is Ivo the mafia target"  Oh nvm now I see. Obv I know Adam is replaced, I just wasn't thinking when I put that.

Yeah about Sully it was implied but not explicitly stated.  I decided to leave it off.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by karterfreak on 03/14/09 at 00:20:42

It means I scanned Ivo, and he came up as mafia. He could be the tranny, but i highly doubt it.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:21:54

It would be funny if he was as Adam claimed Mafia haha.  But we've got more votes on SuperYoshi for now so let's go with that first.

Just keep voting Super and claiming roles as you see the topic today.  Once mafia realize they're done they will turn themselves in, I imagine.

Speaking of Ivo: Poor Ivo, he had to read over 50 pages and only got to post like.....not very much :(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 00:39:25

Okay I'm going away from computer for a bit and I can't be bothered to type up every single scenario for you bozos out there like Drag who don't seem to want to claim, but it's 100% over so mafs just PM lenny that you give up or whatever.  I want to be able to talk about this when I return.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by In Hiding on 03/14/09 at 01:43:00

Vote SuperYoshi1

By the way, I hate to say it but who led the voting on Fababu? :)

I'm ok at this aren't I?

btw, honko, I wasn't sure about you but you weren't convincing enough as town, you did the right thing and the right time coming out of the closet. :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Kmacc on 03/14/09 at 02:35:09

vote: superyoshi

Lets not have everyone claimimg roles. One could be tranny and we could end up lynching townies every single day until we lose, which is unlikely but whatever.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/14/09 at 04:09:59

Honko is dead  [smiley=beer.gif]

What role are you Alex?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/14/09 at 04:16:21

Lol, seems i'm the travestite, or i'm framed  ;D I'll probably die now, ah well, my team wins anyway.


Quote:
Speaking of Ivo: Poor Ivo, he had to read over 50 pages and only got to post like.....not very much


Well, i did my best on day 3/4  ;D


Quote:
By the way, I hate to say it but who led the voting on Fababu?

I'm ok at this aren't I?


I'm sorry, but you did a pretty bad job day 4,  thanks to you honko had to claim vig, and we lost him now. You didn't lead anything as it was clear that we would either get rid of syzygy or fababu, i had them pointed out already way earlier during the day, and karterfreak really pushed into voting them.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/14/09 at 04:18:16

Oh, seems i forgot to vote

Vote Superyoshi

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/14/09 at 04:27:29

Besides, i think that those open games suck compared to closed games cause this roleclaiming stuff kinda takes the fun away from last few days in the game. When i saw the roles i was like 90% sure that town would win with this settings. Only way that mafia could win this was if the first 2/3 days would be a townie self destruct. In closed games mafia could be claiming about anything which makes such big games more balanced and exciting to the end.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/14/09 at 04:46:47

:o

Wow at the results of last night. Both of the suspect targets were mafia. It's unlikely that mafia stand much of a chance now, with only 2 of them remaining.

Vote :
SuperYoshi


I don't think we even have to bother thinking about who got silenced, as it seems that we can win purely off Matt's scans.

Lets get this over with :D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/14/09 at 05:04:44

Oh shit, I got powned by Matt. I should have killed you earlier... :P
Anyway, mafia has almost already lost since night 1. Well done guys !
Town was too fucking overpowered damn

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Howes on 03/14/09 at 05:07:48

Wow. Just about over now. The only questions are who the cop scans, and who the watcher watches, in case Ivo isn't mafia.
Vote: Superyoshi
One more vote to go...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/14/09 at 05:44:05


Quote:
It means I scanned Ivo, and he came up as mafia. He could be the tranny, but i highly doubt it.


You're pretty confident it seems, do you realize that with 2 mafia members left and 1 miller your chances of finding the two mafia members  are only 1/3 and the chances of finding miller+mafia are 2/3?

I wouldn't screw over my mafia buddies so badly if i was mafia. You got the result of me being mafia on night 3 right? Well, april was dead by that time so i couldn't be framed. Meaning that i'm 100% sure that i'm the travestite/miller. I like that  ;D

Last standing vig: Shoot me  :D Good luck to town tomorrow  :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Extol on 03/14/09 at 07:24:37

how many more votes are needed?

vote: superyoshi

edit: oh that was the deciding vote
i guess the days over?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by In Hiding on 03/14/09 at 07:55:51

Town we re not overpowered in my opinion - mafia just played badly.

deep

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Kmacc on 03/14/09 at 08:49:59

Mafia did play poorly lol. I had superyoshi pinned as my target for today, but fell asleep half an hour before results got posted, then woke up randomly at like 6:30am to a bunch of claims and was like wtf?!

So today we lynch superyoshi. At night, vig killed Ivo. I believe Ivo is probably the Tranny, but what can we do? If so, sorry Ivo. :(

Hopefully superyoshi is mafia role blocker and not silencer, who cares about someone being silenced at this point.

As for Matt (if you are cop which I'm sure since nobody counter-claimed): I don't know who you should scan tbh. Have any ideas? Maybe sully or extol?

@Watcher: Watch Matt or a safe townie probably.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Kmacc on 03/14/09 at 08:55:37

@Extol: I think it was actually already over and yours is extra. Whatever I'll put up the post count and lock the topic then I guess.

Vote Count

9 - Superyoshi (scott, karterfreak, penev, In Hiding, Kmacc, Ivo, Sword, Howes, Extol)
1 - Booth (Booth)

Superyoshi will be dead. Topic locked I guess. If anyone wants to unlock it and say more even though they're not supposed then whatever.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/14/09 at 10:28:52

The town went down to the square and jizzed on SuperYoshi.  Unfortunately due to his uncanny ability to swallow things and having such a large oral and nasal cavity, it was impossible to bukkake him to death.  They just told him to leave town for a few years.  He said "Okay," and left town while eating all the fruit he could.

SuperYoshi1 was disposed of.  He was the Captivator, a member of the mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Lenny on 03/14/09 at 22:59:46

The guys were so sure that they could get that last mafia. They were so sure it was that metamorphing Ivo, that, what do you know, he died. Enough of this, time for some win =D

Ivootjes has been killed. He was the Transvestite, the town Miller.

Howes has been killed. He was a Needledick.

Day will end in 72 hours on Wednesday 18th March at
6pm AEST
3am EST
7am GMT
or if someone gets lynched. With 13 players alive, 7 votes are needed for a lynch.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 23:00:40

....What a surprise.  Just everyone roleclaim or else mafia man stand up.  No reason to put this off any longer.

I'd say Drag/Kmacc are leading suspects as they were not wanting to claim a role yesterDay.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 23:02:03

There was no reason to have to kill Ivo, it was obvious he was Transvestite and not mafia because if he was mafia he would've thrown in the towel.  He's a good player and knew the gig was up at that point anyway.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by karterfreak on 03/14/09 at 23:19:45

Scott, we couldnt have known for sure.

Anyways, I never got a PM from Lenny, which makes me guess that I got roleblocked by mafia. Is the mafia roleblocker still alive? If so, watcher should have seen it if they werent an idiot and watched me.

Watcher, who visited me last night?

Note: If watcher reveals with this knowledge now, we win.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 23:26:14

Yeah but he would've known for sure that it was over. Ivo's a class act.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 23:27:03

Whoever the mafia member is is retarded as hell if he doesnt just step forward. Also all townies who won't just claim their role are retarded as hell. The game was over yesterday, regardless of cop actions or anything, if everyone would just claim their damn role right away.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/14/09 at 23:29:33

Lol Scott.  Not giving up is retarded?  Since when.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 23:33:32

Well this means there's some bozo out there that thinks it's funny to still be playing. The game's over, be a gentleman and give it up.  This is retarded right now.  No more game fun value existed as soon as Night 4 ended.  Town cleaned up hardcore this game and mafia got owned.  If you're too ashamed to admit you lost and you want to hide like a baby for 3 more days as we kill everyone else, go ahead, but I'm not going to be laughing.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/14/09 at 23:47:44

I'll be laughing if they win though.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/14/09 at 23:56:59

If every player claims their role, OR we kill anyone who has not claimed yet first, the game is over.

Basically: THE GAME IS OVER.   [smiley=lolk.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by dragondragon on 03/14/09 at 23:57:15

I am a Virgin, one of the Town Vigilantes

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/15/09 at 00:02:46

Smooth move, Drag.  I'll update the tally!

4xNeedledick -- Booth, Penev, Extol, Sully
1xVirgin -- Drag
1xStalker
1xKidnapper -- Tom
1xMoralist -- Darius
1xSkirt Lifter -- karterfreak
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot

1xHooker

Stinson and Kmacc are the only two not to claim or imply anything to make the chart.  I'd guess Stinson to be the mafia, but we'll find out here. Problem is, HE IS THE FUCKHEAD who would do this, dragging everything out.  Anyone else on that list has the class to end it.

vote: Stinson

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by dragondragon on 03/15/09 at 00:04:39

I was gonna claim when I woke up, but the topic was already closed.

Vote: Stinson

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/15/09 at 00:05:53

Okay Drag. I don't blame you or Kmacc for not claiming as you'd have been roleblocked and someone had told watcher not to claim

Even though it didn't matter at all because regardless of what the roles did etc, it was won.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by karterfreak on 03/15/09 at 00:35:44

vote: stinson

The silencing thing was probably a mafia ploy. Lets kill him off first.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/15/09 at 01:13:12


505A494F5E49645D495E5A503B0 wrote:
Anyways, I never got a PM from Lenny, which makes me guess that I got roleblocked by mafia.

If you are roleblocked then Lenny will send you a PM saying you were roleblocked. If you didn't get a PM then Lenny forgot to send you one.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/15/09 at 02:29:24

ivo lols in his grave  8-)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Darius on 03/15/09 at 02:31:18

Hi all. Glad to see that both Tim and Fababu were mafia. By the time I got the chance to post yesterday the day was already over. I had Kmacc pegged as a town power role anyway, but your chart looks more incomplete to me: where's Sword? We also need a second Alpha Male. If I was going to pick one of the three to be mafia, it'd be Sword. Why is everyone ignoring him? I'm sure Matt's going to have some kind of information for us but I'm sure as hell not jumping on Stinson when it seems like people have forgotten who's left in the game.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/15/09 at 03:05:51

Scott wants everyone to role claim, so I'll claim my useless role now

I am a Needledick.

I didn't want to claim earlier as it was pointless, and I might have turned out to be the transvestite.

If Stinson turns out to be mafia, I am going to be laughing so hard, as I predicted him to be mafia from the start.

Vote:
Stinson


Darius, I know I look suspicious as hell, as I am the only one alive from the list of Tim, Fababu and myself, for being potential mafia. They both turned out to be mafia, but I can assure you that I am town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Darius on 03/15/09 at 03:57:12

Ok Sword, but that still means that one of you, Booth, Penev, Extol, and Sully is not a needledick, and we know for sure that Booth is town. Sully's the only one who didn't directly claim needledick so he could be the second Alpha Male, although if he was he wouldn't be worried about people killing him; in fact, that would prove to the vigs that he was town without killing him.

In any case, I've decided to break this down for the mafia. Here's the absolute worse case scenario for town, assuming that one of our 4 unconfirmed needledicks is a mafia liar (here, it's Penev):

-We lynch Stinson. He's Alpha Male 2.
-We vig kill Kmacc. He's watcher.
-Mafia kill Matt. We can't get any more scans.
-Mafia roleblock Scott.
-We're left with Penev, Extol, Sword and Sully.
-We lynch Sword. He's needledick.
-We vig kill Sully. He's needledick.
-Mafia kill Scott.
-We're left with Penev and Extol.
-We lynch Extol. He's needledick.
-Mafia kill Drag (because Drag knows Penev is mafia).
-We're left with Penev.
-The remaining players (Tom, oneshot and myself) lynch Penev. Game over.

In short, whoever's mafia, just give up  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Darius on 03/15/09 at 04:13:24

Sword, what did you edit? I'm sure that last sentence of yours said something different before.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/15/09 at 04:30:40

@Darius: worst case scenario would probably be for Drag to die tonight so we don't get any more vig kills, and then Karterfreak to keep making fruitless scans. That would drag out the game the longest. But since the power claimers (and supporting needledicks who aren't lying) would have a majority lynch vote and kill the needledicks (in an open-one-toilet-cubicle-after-another style of death), the mafia can't escape.

I am the watcher, btw.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Darius on 03/15/09 at 04:34:39

I meant more worst-case scenario in terms of the number of townies the mafia could feasibly kill before the town won. That scenario would obviously mean the game takes longer but less townies would die and so the town would be in less danger. Either way, the mafia can't win.

That makes more sense. I didn't think you were just a needledick.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/15/09 at 04:39:00

The last sentence didn't make much sense to me after I re-read it. It was something like "Fababu and Tim were mafia, therefore I am town" which made no sense.

So I re-wrote it again. Nothing too important.

Penev isn't a needledick, he just claimed the role of The Watcher.

Taking this into account ...

4xNeedledick -- Booth, Extol, Sully, Sword
1xVirgin -- Drag
1xStalker -- Penev
1xKidnapper -- Tom
1xMoralist -- Darius
1xSkirt Lifter -- karterfreak
1xWomanizer -- Scott
2xAlpha Male -- Oneshot, ???

1xHooker -- ???

Kmacc and Stinson haven't claimed a role. Seeing as Kmacc was pressing on April really hard (which would seem stupid if he was hooker, killing off his teammate), we should vote for Nathan.

Mafia can't win now.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Darius on 03/15/09 at 04:46:43

I was pretty convinced Kmacc is town, so unless he is a mafia who really didn't like April's play, I'm sticking with that. Sword, you know mafia can't win so I'll accept your needledick claim. If you're mafia I'll slap you at the end for wasting our time  :P

Vote: Stinson


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/15/09 at 04:52:24

Current Vote Tally

Stinson - 5 votes (IsThatNotAGoodThing, karterfreak, dragondragon, Sword, Darius)

Not voting : Extol, In Hiding, nstinson, Kmacc, sully, AlexPenev, Kevin Booth, oneshotbillyII

With 13 players alive, 7 votes are needed for a lynch.

2 more votes on Nathan and we can end the game and it's a win for town. [smiley=beer.gif]

Edited : To add a list of players who haven't voted.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Darius on 03/15/09 at 05:01:59

Sword, go and find some townies. I'm not waiting another couple of days for this to end. These mafia scum have been around long enough  [smiley=chairshot.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Howes on 03/15/09 at 05:13:41

gg town... I thought I was going to be killed a couple days ago. I'm pretty sure I know who mafia is, but I'm not allowed to say. :-X

[smiley=engel017.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/15/09 at 05:32:53

Damn it Timezones. >_<

"Not voting : Extol, In Hiding, nstinson, Kmacc, sully, AlexPenev, Kevin Booth, oneshotbillyII"

None of these people are around. :(

Penev was here earlier, why didn't he vote for Stinson? Most of the people are sleeping, except Tom and oneshotbillyII, but I don't know where they are.

The remaining one mafia player needs to give up now. He doesn't stand a chance. I mean, 12:1 is the Town:Mafia ratio. You can't beat those odds. [smiley=uzi.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/15/09 at 06:12:44

time to get that "slow playing" Nathan type person.  Since the vigi did not get targeted you  can get whoever you think is most likely lying...

Vote: NathanStinson

1 more vote needed to end the day, so lets do it, and get this game over with!  Well get you bastard maf very soon!

edit: removed the word "guys" since there is only 1 vigi.... duh Kevin

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/15/09 at 06:21:00

vote: nstinson

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/15/09 at 06:22:19

I count a majority.  I am ending the day.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Kevin Booth on 03/15/09 at 06:41:23

just received news that Stinson is NOT the hooker... I repeat NOT the hooker.  Also reason to suspect he is NOT the bulletproof..... uh oh.....

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/15/09 at 13:27:51

Nathan Stinson died.  He was the Alpha Male.  You have 24 Hours to send your night actions to Lenny.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 6]
Post by Lenny on 03/15/09 at 23:00:40

I’ll just pull a Goose here and write nothing.

Kevin Booth has been killed. He was a Needledick.

AlexPenev has been killed. He was the Stalker, the town watcher.

Day will end when someone gets lynched or in 72 hours on Thursday 19th March at
6pm AEST
3am EST
7am GMT


With 10 players alive, 6 votes are needed for a lynch.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/15/09 at 23:05:56

Hey man, it was Scott who said the game was getting tiresome and nobody cared anymore, so I figured I'd do him a favor and make it as painless as possible.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/15/09 at 23:09:03

Well, I know who the mafia is. But I can't tell you :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by karterfreak on 03/15/09 at 23:10:01

Ok, I'm gonna start today off by saying that

1. Alex, bad move revealing that you were the watcher, espescially considering i got roleblocked tonight, the night before I didn't get roleblocked, lenny just decided to send me a PM practically after the day was over. My scan reveals dragondragon to be safe.

2. Dragondragon, if you're seriously the other vig, you're a moron for killing booth, espescially considering I said he was town.

3. Chances are I'm going to be either killed tonight or just continuosly roleblocked by the remaining mafia.

Current Safe List
--------------------
karterfreak (me)
Scott
Dragondragon
Booth (now dead, thanks to the idiotic move by the vig)
oneshotbillyII
Darius

People I'm pretty sure arent Mafia
---------------------------------------
Sword
Kmacc
In Hiding

People who are most likely Mafia
--------------------------------------
Extol
Sully

Vote: Extol

I'm positive its either Extol or Sully now, So lets get rid of Extol first.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/15/09 at 23:17:43


Quote:
1. Alex, bad move revealing that you were the watcher, espescially considering i got roleblocked tonight

Yeah, like I said, the watcher shouldn't reveal as long as the hooker is still in the game. It was either me or you tonight, and the other was going to get roleblocked for the rest of the game. The mafia person is still playing, so they must think they can pull off a miracle. Good luck town and mafia person. Make it an exciting finish.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Darius on 03/16/09 at 01:17:58

Extol hasn't said anything since he put the last vote on SuperYoshi on Saturday but has been online today. Sully has left for vacation, as far as I know, and hasn't even been online in the past 24 hours. It's not Sully. It could still be Sword but he's going to get a seriously massive slap if it is  :P

Vote: Extol


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by In Hiding on 03/16/09 at 01:28:19

vote extol

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/16/09 at 03:57:04

This still isn't funny.  Kmacc has fucked us by not revealing his role.  Once he does, we can aim at the proper people in a systematic killing.  Since he hasn't revealed his role yet we have to kill him now.  It officially makes the game OVER.  Technically, if we let him go on not claiming a role, the mafia can still win.  There is no fun left in this and should not be allowed to go on.

vote: Kmacc

Whatever person is dragging this out should just quit right now.

Last night I RB'd Sword, so he should be safe.

Nothing now has been idiotic or dumb, Penev revealing is FINE, the game is OVER and has been OVER, if everyone claims their roles.

Kmacc needs to die because he won't claim his role.  As soon as he's dead the game is over for sure because we know the roles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Darius on 03/16/09 at 04:04:43

I've got this suspicion that Kmacc's April play was a mafia tactic to get him as a virtually guaranteed townie for the rest of the game, which probably would have worked very well if Tim and Fababu didn't give themselves away so soon afterwards. I just saw Scott's post as I was about to post this and I have this even stronger compulsion to lynch him.

unvote
Vote: Kmacc


Scott, how can the mafia still win? We have too many guaranteed townies for that and as you roleblocked Sword, we're down to three suspects (Extol, Kmacc, Sully), one of whom hasn't even been online. If we're really worried we just have to get Drag to stop killing. If it's not Kmacc, it's Extol. If it's not Extol, it's Kmacc. Simple.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by MVT on 03/16/09 at 06:43:02

you guys are blind men

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Darius on 03/16/09 at 06:52:41

I'm a bored man, waiting for townies to say something so we can get this over with. Even if I go and vote Extol we still need 3 more votes.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Kmacc on 03/16/09 at 07:11:59

vote: Extol

He is the mafia, I guarantee it.

@Scott: Are you mentally ill? Okay, firstly, I'll claim my role. I am a NEEDLEDICK. N-E-E-D-L-E-D-I-C-K. I was sleeping yesterday and completely missed the whole day cause town is retarded and lynched stinson for no reason. Have you guys not learned ANYTHING yet?...

Okay. If it makes you feel any better, we lynch all the claimed needledicks for the rest of the game, and I'm on that list obviously. But start with extol today, cause he is mafia and I know it for sure. I k new this already but day was over already yesterday cause you guys had to make a stupid quick lynch cause you think you know what you're doing.

Vote to lynch extol if you want town to win.

If extol isn't mafia (even though I know he is), lynch me next, and Goose can write the worst write-up possible for me to die in the most gross way imaginable.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Darius on 03/16/09 at 07:14:25

Good enough for me. I looked back at how quickly Stinson got lynched and thought you might actually not have got to see it at all. Also, Extol has been online twice since this day started and not posted. If he's not the mafia he's still wasting our time.

unvote
Vote: Extol


I still can't work out why Drag killed Booth when Matt confirmed he was town. Drag?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Kmacc on 03/16/09 at 07:20:58

When extol dies and the game is over since he's mafia, can we still go on with Night 7 and have drag kill Scott just for fun?

Editting this in: And if extol isn't mafia (even though he is), vig kill me during night 7.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by nstinson on 03/16/09 at 08:14:43

Stinson here

I was gone from Friday to Sunday because of a family emergency, so I was not able to post or even be near a computer all weekend, that's why i was gone. I was just about ready to announce myself as alpha male also.

Anyways. It's obvious to be that Scott really needs to die. I don't think anymore needs to be said about the most annoying player in the game.

peace out

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Kmacc on 03/16/09 at 08:30:27

Sword, I see you're here, please vote extol so we will only need one more vote to lynch him and win.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/16/09 at 08:38:29

Sure thing Kmacc, I was just reading what had happened since I left.

Stinson not being mafia ... strange. But he explained his case, anyway.

And for the last time Darius, I am not Mafia, so that massive slap will have to wait :P

Scott roleblocked me just to be sure anyway x]

Vote :
Extol


Lets get this game over with already.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Darius on 03/16/09 at 08:45:01

I know you're not mafia, Sword  :P. You might want to work on being a convincing townie for next game, though, otherwise I could have the same desire to lynch you  [smiley=uzi.gif]

Drag, vote Extol! Let's finish this!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/16/09 at 08:55:16

If DragonDragon isn't here, how about Extol votes for himself? The game is up anyway, you might as well turn yourself in

And to have the lynching vote on yourself would be cool imo :D

This game needs to end as soon as possible >_<

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Extol on 03/16/09 at 08:55:59

whoops, i just woke up to find i need one more vote. oh well, looks like my time has come

vote: extol

ill save drag the trouble :P

good ame town, you worked together pretty good [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

but no one listened to tom on day one, "im sure extol is mafia" lol

and i had alll the remaining days planned out too...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Kmacc on 03/16/09 at 08:59:04

extol, just a random question: how did you guys not kill me night 3 after I pushed so hard for april's lynching? I thought for sure you guys would think I was cop...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Extol on 03/16/09 at 09:02:11

actually we were undecided between you and jabes, but something made us think that jabes had a role and you didnt, i forget why we came to that conclusion lol. but we were only half right, cause neither of you had roles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/16/09 at 09:05:46

Good Game Guys :D

Darius can get off my case now ^^

And yes, I'll have to shape up for next game. :-[

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Extol on 03/16/09 at 09:07:06

here ill save goose or lenny from a write-up too.

Extol has been lynched. (by himself) He was the Hooker, the mafia roleblocker

Town wins!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Darius on 03/16/09 at 09:07:16

Finally  ;D

Great work, town, I think that's a very comfortable victory. Flo giving himself away so early was a real blow to mafia and the vig kill of Clark meant they were on the back foot straight away. I think Honko's reveal was actually key: if Tim and Fababu hadn't jumped on that bandwagon and Fababu hadn't subsequently tied himself in knots because of the whole vig scenario this probably would have dragged on even longer. As it was, once we got those two then Matt could reveal the scans he'd made and the game was over.

Extol: Tom was also convinced that Honko was mafia. You played the game pretty well compared to a lot of townies who were either far too quiet or absolutely terrible at putting together convincing, logical posts.

I think a lot of us got a bit frustrated at the end there; I know I did. We shouldn't have lynched Stinson so quickly. If we had waited even a few hours longer I think we might have got to the right conclusion; certainly Kmacc would have had the chance to post. An important lesson learnt for next time: quick days are generally bad for town.

Throwing something out there for next time (assuming people want to play again): we need to make sure that the people who are playing want to play and can be bothered to post more than one-liners with no analysis.

Great game, everyone!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Extol on 03/16/09 at 09:09:58

whens pokemon mafia start?  :P

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Sportsguy001 on 03/16/09 at 09:10:38


0A29362B2D2A3E2C20696968590 wrote:
I haven't lied in any of the mafia games we have played.  Last game i said i had a role, and i did, i was bowser.  This game there is nothing special about me.  I have no role.  I'M NOT MAFIA.  Believe me or not.  Whatever i say isn't going to change anyone's opinion about me.  Since i'm about to be lynched, i will post the 4 people i think are mafia.

Extol
Darius
April
Kmac


I was 2/4 on my last predictions

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/16/09 at 09:11:28


Quote:
Extol: Tom was also convinced that Honko was mafia. You played the game pretty well compared to a lot of townies who were either far too quiet or absolutely terrible at putting together convincing, logical posts.


XD

I know I am one of these people, and it's a skill I will have to practice :P

And I agree with the posting part, even though it would sound hypocritical coming from me as I didn't post too much at the start of the game. I was confused half the time.

Anyone think either side of the game (Mafia/Town) was overpowered? Or did Town just get incredibly lucky?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Kmacc on 03/16/09 at 09:11:35

Okay, day 8 starts.

vote: Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by ☆Sword☆ on 03/16/09 at 09:13:23

Vote :
Scott

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Kmacc on 03/16/09 at 09:14:48

@sportsguy: I was gonna take my vote off you for day two cause I saw that you posted much more and I was going to vote for brutus. But I got on with about 3 minutes before the day ended, and tried to read like 10 pages as quickly as possible. I posted changing my vote to brutus but in that time, the topic got locked. :(

@sword: I don't think either side was necessarily overpowered role wise, but mafia didn't have any more experienced players which hurt them for sure.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Extol on 03/16/09 at 09:15:50

vote: scott

yeah kmacc said it, mafia were all or mostly first or second gamers, we didnt make the best decisions sometimes, and some of us were not good at convincing you guys we were innocent.

i think superyoshi would still be here if matt wouldnt have scanned him :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by SuperYoshi1 on 03/16/09 at 09:16:03

Vote : Scott ;D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Darius on 03/16/09 at 09:17:04

I've never played before so I don't know if I can really say town was overpowered. I thought the town got quite lucky that Clark was useless and happened to be a mafia and that both April and Flo were new mafia players (I think) who made fairly obvious mistakes in their posts. We were also fortunate that the mafia didn't pick off any of our strong power roles early and kept hitting needledicks: if we had lost Ellis before he could give us his info I think this would have been closer and Extol and SuperYoshi might have been able to pick off a few more.

Vote: Scott


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Syzygy on 03/16/09 at 09:21:40

Vote:  Scott

And yeah the mafia were terrible this game, including me.  And I really didn't know Clark was %Hat  :P

I think the town roles were overpowered though, it was way too easy for them, expecially having two virgins.


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Kmacc on 03/16/09 at 09:24:37

On day 5 (with four mafias left), I had fababu, extol and superyoshi all pinned as mafia. I had suspicions towards tim, but not enough for me to be confident he was mafia.

And I had a bunch of people down as obvious townies early too. Darius, Penev, Tom, Booth, Scott, Honko, Drag, to name a few.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/16/09 at 10:11:26

Fun game, some part of the stories were also pretty funny. I think town did a pretty good job, though we also were lucky several mafia simply did terrible most of the game. Besides that i think that mafia was at a disadvantage in this setting, it would have been more exciting in a closed game because mafia members could have claimed crazy roles and you also would have to question roleclaims more. I also dislike the "lets all roleclaim to get rid of the last 1/2 mafia members" as this has happened two games in a row. I don't say its wrong to do (it's possible in the rules, so do it for sure) but it does makes it shitty to be the last standing mafia member as you have 0% chance to win the game. The first 4 days were fun, but after that the game was played and basicly over. Those last 3 days were pretty boring. Conclusion: closed game ftw!

Some people in here shouldn't play btw, what's up with joining in if you're not going to say anything and do not try to help your team win? Oneshot was the worst, but there were some others who should seriously rethink before playing in one of these games. I guess some people just want to participate to just see themself in the list of players? Some other people just try to make their team lose. Like kevin booth faking he was silenced. That's just handicapping your team with no reason at all.  :-/ I dont get it.

Oh well, there were also people who were great, darius played pretty good for his first time, i think he was the most solid town player this game. Good stuff  :D

Do i need to host a new game, does someone else want to host a game? Or does someone wants to host a game with me? Like lenny/goose worked together this game.

btw: i really had to laugh when i noticed i was the transvestite, too bad i couldn't help you guys out anymore  from there on:D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by karterfreak on 03/16/09 at 10:56:07

Booth acting silenced made sense considering he was on the chopping block that day  ::)

Vote: Scott

forget that he's town, he deserves to die. Can we kill dragondragon next for making that retarded vig kill of booth?  ;D

Town was a bit overpowered this game, but think about it. If I didnt call out Syzygy and Fababu when I did, and say what my scans were (safe people and mafia) we wouldnt have ended this game so easily, as nobody would know syzygy, fababu, and superyoshi were mafia.  :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Jabes on 03/16/09 at 11:08:10

I was onto a few mafia members before I was killed, but I never would have guessed that SuperYoshi was mafia. I remember looking at the votes and then Matt's votes and picking up on the fact that he probably knew more than the rest of the town...

It was a fun game, but I agree that the town was overpowered.  Two virgins and two alpha-males (although both of them being useless all game) sort of made the town invincible... Not to mention the moralist, who never could have died unless we lynched him...

I didn't like how long it took for the game to end, and I blame that on two things: too many players, and too many quiet players. Because lynches needed 13 people to be a majority, many posts were explanations as to why everyone should vote for someone, and most of the time the discussion was between 8 people. Needing to have another five votes at times was painful.

I say mafia games should max out at 19 players, and that the town should have less power roles.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Syzygy on 03/16/09 at 11:14:12

Fewer roles, not less.






Grammar whore

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/16/09 at 11:17:25

Lol, reread my big post made earlier on day 4 karterfreak, if you read well you can see that i had fababu and syzygy clearly in sight already  ;) Together with you as top suspects, but you had just played superpoorly until that point. Your defense was reasonable though, made me even more think that syzygy and fababu were mafia.

Only real surprise to me was superyoshi, didn't really expected him to be mafia.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/16/09 at 11:18:51

Hey everyone.  Special ending!

A few months after the townies took over, a new feeling in the air overwhelmed the town.  It was not an emotional feeling, or physically feeling, rather something in between.  It felt as though tangible love; though not cute, angelic puppy love, a more dark love, was suspended in the air between the demons in the sky and the raw cobblestone walk.

[Scott enters, riding a motorcycle]

Scott: Hey bitches.

[Hot womanly figure enters, wearing assless leather chaps]

Woman: *sloppily leans over Scotts shoulders throwing her arms around him from behind*

Scott: Check out my new piece of ass, boys.

Everyone gathered around to marvel at this new Scott.  They could not believe how hot of a girl he had just slept with and totally, owned, or so it seemed.  However, since they were the town, it was in their duty to further investigate.

Scott: Yeah, well I only plowed her in the ass.  Mom told me that it doesn't count against losing your virginity before marriage if you do that.

The town quickly ran over and tore off the leather chaps to reveal that this "woman" had a penis.  Scott was in shock and drove off on his motorcycle into a small hut in the woods, where he would seek refuge for the time being.

The town fucked this transsexual mercilessly, because why not?  She was hot and as long as you did her in the ass or tits only, it wasn't gay.

Meanwhile Scott didn't leave the woods or ever come back to town again.  He lived in shame for the rest of his life.  A few months later he died of AIDS.

Scott (Isthatagoodthing) died of AIDS.  His role is irrelevant.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Syzygy on 03/16/09 at 11:23:12

LMAO.  Epic.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Detective Spril on 03/16/09 at 11:24:37

Totally epic. Good game guys (and yes, it was my first game) :D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Jabes on 03/16/09 at 11:25:38

Classic.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 5]
Post by Honko on 03/16/09 at 12:10:01


435F585A5644504F06370 wrote:
btw, honko, I wasn't sure about you but you weren't convincing enough as town, you did the right thing and the right time coming out of the closet. :)

My claim ended up making the mafia obvious, so in the end it turned out alright.  But you should notice that the only people who suspected me were you, oneshot(who only does what you do), Darius (who just wanted to see others' reactions), and two mafia.  If I had been the only vig in the game, or if I had been cop, you forcing me to claim could have been very bad for town.  You get some of your hunches right (although this game Extol was the only one that wasn't 100% obvious) but you also get some wrong (you were very sure that both me and Sportsguy were mafia).  If you accuse enough people, of course you'll be right sometimes.  Just don't put so much faith in those hunches next time until you get evidence to back them up.  Especially against me, since you've called me mafia when I'm town both games now. ::)


0126213B2A2125201F20382A3D4F0 wrote:
I say mafia games should max out at 19 players, and that the town should have less power roles.

For me when I'm hosting, finding a good balance between teams with lots of night powers is the most interesting part.  And the most interesting powers come in large games.  It takes even more time to host than it does to play, so when I host I'm going to make sure it's interesting for me.  So anytime I host, there are probably going to be a lot of roles.  Just so you know.  And on that note...


3C212D36356E616E590 wrote:
whens pokemon mafia start?  :P

I'm gonna open a sign up topic now.  The game will start in about 2 weeks.  After Pokemon Mafia, I'll probably be too busy to play/host mafia for a few months, so I want to get it in now while I have a chance.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by MVT on 03/16/09 at 13:36:48

it looks like a lot of the people I had pegged throughout the game actually turned out to be mafia.

Penev fooled me though

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/16/09 at 13:38:17

He fooled you at....being a townie?

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by MVT on 03/16/09 at 13:39:20

yep.  I thought he was mafia

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/16/09 at 16:47:17

You died of AIDS, Scott. You can't talk after you die.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/16/09 at 16:54:27

Okay, modkill me :(

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Day 7]
Post by Padzup on 03/16/09 at 17:18:35

Better yet let's just ban him from future games 8-)

btw I protected Honko both nights. I actually nearly protected Etch Night 1 but thought he would be a target and didn't want to die early [smiley=lolk.gif]

Also I'm severely disappointed that nobody listened to me when I called out Tim. Mafia was lucky that I was a power role since I was otherwise not a threat of any kind. Because of that I didn't think I would have been nightkilled else I would have stated my mind a bit more clearly.

F U all, I will dominate pkmn mafia, kmacc is dominatrix etc etc

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Etch on 03/16/09 at 19:21:48

Scott died of AIDS?

There really is such a thing as a happy ending! 8-)

These teams were just hilarious.  I can't believe how many stupid things were done.

From my brief readings, it seemed like Kmacc really pegged a lot of people while other town players were too busy deducing shit from bullshit.  With so many players, you guys knew some people were not going to be active much.  That is not a sufficient reason to think one is mafia.  Not everyone sits on the fucking computer all day long with a raging hard on to see what the night actions were.  By post styles alone, it should not have taken long to see who the liars were.  There are 70 fucking pages to look at, no one can be that dense.  Despite the shitty town players, mafia was outclassed big time.  If you guys want to make this better next time, probably want to downsize it a little bit and just ban some people from playing since it fucks things up anyway.

Too many bad town and mafia players. xD

That's okay spazzup, not like I had a role and Kmacc pretty much played the way I would have.

You think after a few games people would get better, not worse at this. xP

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Padzup on 03/16/09 at 19:23:52

Well it's a step up from the first game where only vanillas were killed :-/

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Goose ♥ on 03/16/09 at 19:25:31

Jack, don't use the word Vanilla like that.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/16/09 at 19:57:53

Post the night actions already, Goose.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Padzup on 03/16/09 at 20:08:02

Lenny has the night actions so you'll be waiting another couple of hours.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Lenny on 03/16/09 at 21:41:26

1. Honko - Killed N4 - Virgin
2. Extol - Lynched D7 - Hooker
3. IsThatAGoodThing Survived to end - Womanizer
4. In Hiding - Survived to end - Kidnapper
5. Syzygy - Killed N4 - Cunt
6. Darius Survived to end - Moralist
7. SuperYoshi1 - Lynched D5 - Captivator
8. Sportsguy001 - Lynched D2 - Needledick
9. [ch9734]»Sword«[ch9734]Survived to end - Needledick
10. %hat - Killed N1 - Cunt
11. dragondragon Survived to end - Virgin
12. nstinson - Lynched D6 - Alpha Male
13. Fababu - Lynched D4 - Cunt
14. Flo1 - Lynched D1 - Single Female Lawyer
15. Kmacc Survived to end - Needledick
16. karterfreak Survived to end - Skirt Lifter
17. Detective Spril - Lynched D3 - Dominatrix
18. Padzup - Killed N2 - Clingy Whipped Boy
19. Howes - Killed N5 - Needledick
20. Jabes - Killed N3 - Needledick
21. Brutus - Modkilled D3 - Needledick
22. Ivootjes - killed N5 - Transvestite
23. Etch - Killed N1 - Needledick
24. sully Survived to end - Needledick
25. AlexPenev - Killed N6 - Stalker
26. MVT - Killed N3 - Cockbite
27. Kevin Booth - Killed N6 - Needledick
28. oneshotbillyII Survived to end - Alpha Male

Role Actions

Night 1
AlexPenev (Watcher) watches AlexPenev (Watcher)
Karterfreak (Cop) investigates IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk)
dragondragon (Vig) kills Clark (Cunt)
Fababu (Mafia) kills Etch (Needledick)
Extol (Hooker) blocks Kmacc (Needledick)
SuperYoshi1 (Silencer) silences nstinson (Bulletproof)
Detective Spril (Framer) frames Kmacc (Needledick)
Padzup (Bodyguard) protects Honko (Vig)
IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk) blocks Kevin Booth (Needledick)

Night 2
Fababu (Mafia) kills Padzup (Bodyguard)
Extol (Hooker) blocks Kmacc (Needledick)
SuperYoshi1 (Silencer) silences nstinson (Bulletproof)
dragondragon (Vig) shoots oneshotbillyII (Bulletproof)
AlexPenev (Watcher) watches IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk)
Padzup (Bodyguard) protects Honko (Vig)
karterfreak (Cop) investigates Kevin Booth (Needledick)

Night 3
Honko (Vig) kills MVT (Cockbite)
Karterfreak (Cop) investigates Ivootjes (Transvestite)
AlexPenev (Watcher) watches nstinson (Bulletproof)
Fababu (Mafia) kills Jabes (Needledick)
Extol (Hooker) blocks dragondragon (Vig)
IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk) blocks Kevin Booth (Needledick)

Night 4
IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk) blocks Kevin Booth (Needledick)
Dragondragon (Vig) kills Syzygy (Mafia)
karterfreak (Cop) investigates SuperYoshi1 (Silencer)
Extol (Hooker) blocks AlexPenev (Watcher)
Syzygy (Mafia) kills Honko (Vig)
AlexPenev (Watcher) watches IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk)

Night 5
IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk) blocks Kevin Booth (Needledick)
dragondragon (Vig) kills Ivootjes (Miller)
karterfreak (Cop) investigates dragondragon (Vig)
AlexPenev (Watcher) watches karterfreak (Cop)
Extol (Hooker) kills Howes (Needledick)
Extol (Hooker) blocks Kmacc (Needledick)

Night 6
Extol (Hooker) kills AlexPenev (Watcher)
Extol (Hooker) blocks karterfreak (Cop)
IsThatAGoodThing (Drunk) blocks Sword (Needledick)
karterfreak (Cop) investigates sully (Needledick)
AlexPenev (Watcher) watches karterfreak (Cop)
dragondragon (Vig) kills Kevin Booth (Needledick)

Needless to say, I thought some people had pretty weird actions. A bunch of people didn't act on N2...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by In Hiding on 03/17/09 at 01:49:32

I would like to point out that I think I did pretty well.

1) Pointed out flo was mafia 1st
2) Pointed out that extol was mafia 1st - and also he was clever because he read my post where I said I can work people out the more they talk so he pretty much shut up which took the heat off him.
3) I put the heat on april
4) I made a mistake abouts sportsguy
5) I knew honko wasn't mafia but to be honest, I would've have left my vote on him till the end, regardless of if he had owned up, i'd have switched it.
6) I put the heat on fababu asap

All in all my predictions from the word go were pretty spot on. Definitely a + kill count if we were playing halo :)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by oneshotbillyII on 03/17/09 at 02:33:49

I'd say i get an assist for flo, my hunch about honko was wrong and i let it get the better of me, sorry town.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/17/09 at 02:40:24

Hey, Tom, I'm still on your "suspect list" in your signature  8-)


My role was pretty interesting. Initially I thought it sounded weak (like a Framer-weak or Female Lawyer-weak) but then it sounded pretty good after a while. In the end I didn't make any useful watches, unfortunately.
N1: watched myself but the silencer didn't fall for it.
N2: watched Scott, but the mafia didn't care that he was a town power. Maybe they didn't notice, or maybe they did and knew he'd be watched.
N3: watched Stinson, but didn't expect him to get visited. However, the result in case he had been visited would've been more useful to know than to watch MVT (and see Honko). A wasted watch, perhaps.
N4: Scott again. Blocked. Did you get lucky, Extol?  ;D
N5: Matt. Nothing.
N6: Extol came to Matt's house to rough him up a bit, but unfortunately he saw me in the bushes and didn't want to leave any witnesses  [smiley=uzi.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/17/09 at 04:22:19

Did my post with capitalized letters H I N T mixed in with some bad grammar make you want to scan me?  :P

I just kept watching Booth every night that I had no clue what to do!

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by In Hiding on 03/17/09 at 04:25:09

alex, you analytical approach makes it very hard to judge town or mafia. Afaik you also didn't claim to be town once?! lol

legendary performance, honko and tim did good too.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/17/09 at 04:25:48

I suck at Mafia.



[ [smiley=lolk.gif]

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by AlexPenev on 03/17/09 at 04:52:40


28123509001520260E0E053509080F06610 wrote:
Did my post with capitalized letters H I N T mixed in with some bad grammar make you want to scan me?  :P

Me? No. I can't scan. Rather... I was hoping you would get killed ::)

Fababu and Syzygy flew under my radar. I thought MVT and Booth were more mafia-like than the mafia  :-/  :D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Extol on 03/17/09 at 06:41:46


123F362B03363D3625530 wrote:
N4: Scott again. Blocked. Did you get lucky, Extol?  ;D




yep xD

as you saw, most of my blocks were needledicks, so i didnt know what i was doin, and i got lucky with you and drag(even though the one on drag didnt work cause honko made the kill that night) :P


Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Jabes on 03/17/09 at 11:10:40

It was Fababu that killed me on night 3... dammit.  Compared to the last game, I'd say I did rather well as a townie. I just knew that April was mafia, and I went with the Flo bandwagon...

The only people I really weren't sure on were Booth and Sully, simply because of their strange patterns of voting and posting.

I could slap Booth for how horribly he played...

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Flo1 on 03/17/09 at 11:40:12

Yeh, that was shit  ;D
I hope next time, I'll play much better than that so that I could stay minimum 1 day or maybe more  ;)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Fababu on 03/17/09 at 12:28:57

Bah, I've played absolutely horrible this game. I don't know how to lie.
Having 2 mafia kills on day/night 1 was really shocking; so I became the mafia killer cause my role and cause syzygy was less suspicious. BTW, thanks to the vigs killing MVT that night, I started being annoyed of him xD (j/k).

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Ivootjes on 03/17/09 at 19:46:00

Yeah, playing mafia is harder than you think, i also think i'm still lacking the skills to play really great as mafia. Though i'm sure i improved on a lot of dumb mistakes made, and im really curious to try it again.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Flo1 on 03/18/09 at 03:22:08

Me too  :D

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Darius on 03/18/09 at 04:24:38

I feel like I should have pursued Extol a bit more earlier on but for some reason I never found him quite suspicious enough compared to other players. I think I would have focused more on April on Day 2 if it hadn't been for Scott. One of the first things I said on Day 2 was that April was my number one suspect, then Scott got all crazy and came across as much more suspicious, shifting attention away from her. In the end it didn't really matter but I hope Scott's learning to be less panicky  :P

I was quite pleased that Tim and Fababu fell for the Robin lynch. Robin never came across as mafia to me but it was clear that Tom and Sean weren't going to drop it so I decided to go along and see who would follow. I can't say whether I'd have picked up on SuperYoshi if Ellis hadn't outed him. Sword and Sully were definitely highest up on my suspect list after Tim and Fababu so I think I was lucky that we got both of them in quick succession, allowing Ellis to reveal.

I never really thought Booth was mafia but I do agree he played a horrible game. I didn't trust Sully until the last couple of days. I probably shouldn't have made so much of him not posting a great deal, but a lot of town seemed to forget that what they post is the only information most of us have. If you're being evasive, posting infrequently, coming to strange conclusions or jumping about all over the place, of course we're going to think you're suspicious.

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Adam L on 03/18/09 at 07:18:45

Still undefeated at forums mafia  8-)

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by IsThatAGoodThing on 03/18/09 at 12:44:23

Darius :( I was targeting April myself....

Title: Re: Girl Mafia [Town Wins]
Post by Darius on 03/18/09 at 15:35:11

I know. You and April were obviously on opposite sides. When you went all crazy I started thinking you  might be mafia, hence she looked more like town. I think I did actually explicitly say this during Day 2, something along the lines of her getting less suspicious because you were more so [smiley=bath.gif]

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